RAWTALK - Polo G on Being Charged, Beef w/ Adin Ross & New Music…

Episode Date: April 14, 2024

0:00 intro0:39 how important social media is to polo2:34 being an artist3:20 what polo g focuses on image wise4:42 where polo g’s music is coming from5:38 brad’s first heartbreak6:48 polo g on relationships9:51 does polo struggle with time and balance11:03 prior to money has polo had a perspective on what really matters12:21 what does polo g do to find the balance13:01 what has working out changed in polo's life15:08 what polo g likes and hates the most about the gym16:41 the goals polo had written down17:50 the paper brad wrote when he was 619:00 what makes polo g him20:10 why polo g went to jail20:57 the shadiness of the music industry22:18 has polo g ever been burnt out in the music space24:57 making the team tighter25:44 polo g being only artist to have 3 albums with 10 songs platinum or gold28:44 what creates the most anxiousiness in polo's life31:01 does polo g ever think he is doing the wrong thing?31:55 hood poet album35:23 what polo deals with now to the heart37:08 red flags with friends and family38:38 how to know someones there for you and not what you have40:10 being concered with where the world is at42:07 polo having good direction growin up43:51 polo g being a father44:26 what does polo g enjoy the most outside of music45:27 polo being spiritual47:35 what influences polo g49:58 the big three51:34 polo g is never getting in beef53:19 thoughts on mumbling rappers54:12 polo g on singing54:48 polo g's direction in music57:46 why polo left Chicago59:18 who polo wants to make music with1:02:35 polo g's perspective on parties1:03:55 people trying to get views and attention1:04:43 polo g on the internet1:05:29 why are people so caught up in the negativity1:10:06 what polo gets caught up in1:12:45 why it's not so simple to drop albums1:13:37 is it better to sign a label or go independent1:14:09 what platforms for content polo g is on or wants to get on1:14:47 polo g and adin ross1:16:13 why haven’t artist streamed1:17:53 would polo g eve box?1:18:51 brad or polo g in a street fight1:20:13 advice from polo on being consistent in the gym1:22:34 does the amount of time on an album matter?

What did you do in Snapchat? Yeah. Oh, you have Snapchat? Yeah. Oh, shit. That's dope. I love it. Yeah, I'm a little METS clips for me.

Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. How, how, I'm super curious, like, do you take that? You could just, like, to get videos, brusky. You want vertical, right? Yeah, vertical, all vertical. How important is, like, that sort of other shit, like, social media stuff to you? I mean. Because you don't need, obviously, you don't need social media money.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But I just, I feel like now it's important because it's a whole new lane to, like, promoting music, like showing people your personality. I feel like now that's a more important part than it ever been in music right now. Do you think it's because of social media or just because people want to know more about people that they're, like, listening to or fucking with? Because of social media and social media personalities. It's like a lot of artists that become social media personalities that they're looking for the introvert dudes to be like that too.

I mean, some artists, though, that's like stay off the internet, like it worked today advantage too. Yeah. Like some artists. It's rare, though. Yeah, like I feel like the weekend is someone that you just never see do anything other than music. Yeah.

But like, do you think that that's, I mean, I guess for someone like that, you get to a certain level, it's sustainable. but as far as like being an artist now I feel like you have to because like for example 6-9 right like he was probably one of the first artists that like really turned

being a musician into like as much people I hate him or love him right into fucking like popularity on the internet you know what I'm saying like he has so much popularity like because he's like such a character yeah I feel like even if you if you one of them people that

don't like engage in the internet a lot you gotta have like like what am i trying to say like a specific image like for everybody like a certain aesthetic you fall into for everybody to be like all right well this is his thing you know yeah i feel like cardi has that like this never shows up for sure which he got that own lock right now like do you think it was by accident you think it was on purpose uh i think that it was i think like i know personally as an artist you just end up finding yourself and finding your niche or how you want to approach music or how you want people to view you. I think that's what happened for him because if you

see and hear some of his earlier music and I'm quite sure like his earlier his fans who've been fans with him since the beginning to say the same thing like he was like totally different than there to 360 almost like you know. So he was he was more out there before? Yeah like you know like more social, a different, like, you went about dressing a little different, and he switched his whole thing up, and it worked for him, like, it worked for him. What are you on, like, what are you focused on as far as that, like, image-wise? Because I feel like a lot of rappers are kind of like, they don't really talk so much about their personal life.

They don't really talk about, like, who they are really as people outside of the music. Except for, like, when I, I guess I'm thinking, like, Kanye West, because he talks about fucking everything. Like me, I just really be myself. I try to make sure that people know me for my music. It's a lot of, like, I'm the type of person that want to keep my personal life private because I want people to just, I want my music to be good enough to where it's like, I know this is the main and only reason everybody rocking with me,

not because who I'm dating, not because the drama I'm in, not because what I got going on at home, but just really, my music, you know. I don't see any drama on you. Yeah, I'll be, I'll be keeping my nose cleaning, man. I wonder, like, so, so, but to that point, though, do you think it's important for people to know, like, who you really, because when I think, I think about you,

and I look at your music, not that on some weird shit, when I say I think about you, it sounds funny. But when I think about what I know of you, yeah, there's not much of, like, who you really are, though. And, like, when I hear a lot of your music, like, a lot of it is, is heartfelt. A lot of it is heartfelt, like, from the heart, right? So my question that I'm super

curious about you is like, where is that coming from? Like, have you ever been, like, heartbroken? You know? Like, I feel like, I feel like us as people, we all go through a lot of shit, but I'm just more so in tune with the emotional side of it as far as like expressing those type of feelings

and understanding that everybody going through the same thing. Yeah. What have you personally been through that's, like, trying, really trying for you? Because I've looked and I couldn't find it. I couldn't find shit. It's just like really relationship shit. Yeah. Like, when was your first heartbreak?

Because you're what? You say you're 24, 25? 25. Yeah. I'll say my first real heartbreak I was, I was probably a senior. Yeah. A senior in high school. Yeah, that was my first.

Was it, like, how did it go? Because, like, my first heartbreak, I remember really vividly. I remember, like, trying to fight so hard to get this person to be like, no, I'm good enough. Like, this should work. And I remember being in a position where, like, I'm on the phone crying to my mom, like, all kinds of crazy shit. And it just wasn't supposed to work. I mean, it was young. It was just, like, I was so attached to it working that I tried everything.

Like, I mean, I literally, like, I was a trainer, which is so funny because your trainer's here, which, you know, shout out to him because he, you know. brought you to the gym, and that's how we met. But I was a trainer, and I remember I was training all these other, like, model chicks at the time, because I was like, I might grind as a trainer's before the internet. And she was like, yeah, you're sleeping with these other girls that you're training. And I was like, oh, okay, so I was, like, removing all my clients. I was literally, like, losing my clients to try and make this person believe that I love them so much. And even though it was never about that, right?

So I lost all my clients. I remember my last client was a gay dude in Hollywood. And she's like, you're sleeping with her gay client. I was like, what the fuck are you? Like, it was the craziest. And I was like, I was so shot after that relationship where I was like, fuck women, fuck everything. I'm going to, I'm going to fucking build business.

All I'm going to do is focus on this. So for you in high school, was it like, was it like bullshit puppy love or were you serious? No, I was pretty. I'm like, I, I, I, feel me? I love hard, like, especially when I opened up to somebody, though. So, like, it was, that was the first. real like heart wound I say that I ever got like in with something to do with look because normally it's like I'm like nonchalant but that was like the first relationship where I feel like

somebody really had that advantage over me yeah almost so would you learn from it I can't really pinpoint it I'll just say like I learned what to look for like what red flags for sure I learned some red flag One of the biggest red flags you think When trying to find a girl I know you got to I don't know if you talk about this You have a girl now

Yeah You talk about it Yeah Yeah But I'm saying like I'm trying to think though Like what's like What's a good red flag

Or it's a bad red flag rather Yeah It's a bad red flag Probably if she like Has a bunch of Instagram circles With like you know Different countries and shit It's probably a big red flag

Why he said that You know when the girls, like, they're all over the world and they have all these, like, circles. Oh, right. I can't see what you saying. Like, who's paying for these trips? Yeah, that's for sure, for sure, for sure. That's an easy one for me. Yeah.

But on a personal tip, like on a personal level, like, what did you learn from it? About, maybe just about yourself. Because, like, obviously you said. Oh, yeah, I could say, like, just, like, just putting yourself first for sure. Or just, yeah, that's all I can really say, like putting yourself first, like, never really seeing yourself too much in the image of being with somebody, like being able to stand alone, you know? Yeah. And being able to be okay with that, like, because, like, you know, when you young, you feel like it's the end of the world if you lose in the person that you fuck with. being able to be solo being able to be like good as yourself yeah because like like like i got a son

right now he five and that's something i want to make sure that he know that you don't have to have a girlfriend when you're 16 yeah and 17 or even fucking 21 like just live your life and even if you is with that person just keep in mind that you can be alone you know yeah it's crazy how much we get caught up in and other people just for just for like love or security security or anything like because i've definitely been there i've multiple points in my life and you know at this point obviously like i'm not married i don't have kids i want kids but i've definitely struggled for a lot a lot of my life with the balance of like work relationships and all this kind of shit is in regards to it making content and like being able to have enough time

do you do you struggle with that sort of stuff in your life with music and like your personal relationships or even family relationships you say do i struggle with like the time like the balance of it all. Yeah, sometimes for sure. I feel like I just got to like really make sure I'm mindful of balancing that though because sometimes I feel like guilt for not setting us setting aside enough time for my kid. I know like I'm primarily working for him though but yeah. But like I still got to like make sure that I make that look and it could be like simple simple stuff like going to the park with them or just kicking it with them in the crib and not going out to the studio that night like little shit that add up though because kids will never

forget that yeah it's funny how like it's well i just had i just had banks on earlier but like how like the small things is kind of like what life's really about though because i'm curious your perspective before you had money obviously i don't know at what age did that change for you when you went from like no money to money what age was that i was 19 So young. Congrats, by the way. Thank you. But like prior to that and having what you have now,

like hasn't it hasn't given you perspective on like what really matters? Say it again. Has, has not because in most cases when people don't have money, right? Everyone thinks that's what matters is having money and having things. And obviously like there's a certain base level of like having to pay for bills or having to pay for rent. And everyone's like working on that and that's very essential. But at some point like when that's all taken care of, like what really?

matters because at this point in your life you obviously have great successes you've done really well financially you're great and now having it like hasn't he has it given you a different perspective on what really matters for sure for sure because at first you know and and one and one thing my my pops always taught me like that like if you is a if you was a depressed person without money you would be that same person with it like it don't change it's more so like you having to do internal work and i and i know and i've been really focused on like making sure my mentor is in the right place because you can have all the money and material things in the world but if you're not like really aligned with yourself spiritually

and mentally you would be going crazy up in that damn mansion yeah what do you what do you do specifically that helps you create that like finding that sort of balance like do you meditate like what are the things you actually do is just because it's not just because someone told you right like you have to actually practice it yeah now sometimes i just be listening to the um the like certain frequency vibration things yeah like sound bath type stuff yeah yeah i do that uh sometimes i listen to those while i say while saying my positive affirmations i'd not drink or just like indulge in the party and type stuff sometimes Like, I take a lot of different approaches, and especially, like, even something, like, working out, you know, like, shit like that helped my mental a lot.

You take that serious. Yeah, for sure. I've seen you at the gym so many times now. Like, you really do it. Yeah. What has that changed in your life besides being fucking jacked, like, getting more jacked? Make me feel a lot more confident because I was, I got to a point where I started to feel insecure about my size because, you know, like, I'm. a grown, a grown man, and I was like 130 pounds.

Yeah. And like, seeing the progress really helped me build my confidence back up, like, physically, you know. But. It's funny, though, because, like, people on the outside would look in, like, what would there be to be self-conscious of? Because, like, you got money or popularity, like. It's just, it's just a personal thing. Like, still to this day, I can walk past the mirror.

I'm like, nah, I've got to get there. You're a gym bro at heart I love that shit But the crazy thing about being a gym bro Like it's almost never enough then Because have you got to that point yet Where it's like You know there's certain days

When you just look a little bit better And it makes you kind of maybe feel a little bit better And like it's almost like in this space Like I know for me and a lot of people Who are like really into the gym It almost becomes like it's never enough No I'm for sure in that phase right now Do you have more like physical goals

That you want to like go after? Yeah. Yeah, because, like, right now I'm 180 pounds, and my goal is to be, like, at max 2.15, but I really want to, like, keep progressing to see because I don't want to be too big. I think it kind of, like, hurt my rap image a little bit. Your image, yeah. Yeah. Why, though? Just be more jacked?

Yeah, I'm saying, like, if I get too big, that's how I think about it, though. No, man, I don't know. I feel like it's like, I don't know, nowadays, I think obviously like if you look like a fucking bodybuilder, people might be like, what the fuck? It's weird. But like, I don't know. I feel like you could get bigger. You definitely got bigger since I've seen you start for sure, which is crazy. What do you like least about the gym and what do you like most about the gym?

Start with least, yeah. Lease, the only thing I can say that I don't like about the gym sometimes is like whenever it's crowded. Yeah. Like, I really prefer, like, being in the gym where it's, like, a small amount of people in there. But is it because people try to fucking talk to you? Was that why? Or is it just, like, even if they're not,

it's just you like it less crowded? Yeah, that's just how, that's just the, like, the way I like to be in it. Because people coming up to me, I don't really mind that, like, that don't really bother me. But when a gym just too packed sometimes, it's just, like crazy because there's certain gyms that i go to we waiting in the line and get on the machine i'm like man i got to leave from yeah i get it um so do you do anything else outside of the gym

that's that you've noticed has like really improved your life like do you do any like you said you do the affirmations which is which is dope because i had no idea about that and i think a lot of people think that's like that's kind of fucking hippie shit yeah but that that that helps you a lot no it helped me i've been doing that since before i got into the position that i'm in so like before you had all the success yeah and that's what made me keep on going with it now like because i've seen the type of differences it made what started you on that then i ain't gonna lie i'm just i don't know if like something just be in my mind telling me to do certain like nobody ever coached me and came and told me to do the

Like, I learned that it was an actual thing after I had already been practicing it. I see what you're saying. You're talking about the manifestation part of it. Yeah. Because, like, it was a point of time, like, I was, like, in and out of the county. Like, I was going to jail a lot for, like, little petty shit. And one time when I had got locked up, like, when I was buying paper off commissary, paper and pens and shit. And I just start writing a bunch of shit down

that I wanted to do and goals that I set for myself and rapping and I kept the paper for a long time. I can't find that damn paper, but like every single thing that I wrote down, like literally everything that I wrote down I ended up doing that like I didn't even notice it till I'm like in the midst of doing some of this shit like going on tour, hitting certain cities, breaking certain milestones. I'm like, damn, everything that was on that paper I did.

what do you think is the power because dude that's so crazy i literally talked about this on my pa before but i i i wrote down when i was a kid i think i was like i must have been six or seven or some shit and i wrote down like i want to have a house with a pool and i want two pit bulls and like all this crazy shit and i have literally all of it obviously it's a lot long like a lot longer time ago yeah but like you know it doesn't just happen right do you think it's just because you put this down you wrote this plan down like that's why it happened Or, like, did you ever go back and read it? Or was it like...

I went back to read it for show. But that's what I'm saying. Like, when I started, like, looking into manifestation, affirmation, stuff like that, they, like, it's a lot of power in writing things down and, like, being able to visualize it. And going back to it, looking at it, it's like a lot of power that helped the stuff. Everything that you write down coming to fruition. Yeah. so is that the only thing you've done that has helped you get to where you are because most

people have these questions right besides like obviously being a great musician or being able to write the music being able to produce the music but like what else do you think really makes you you you know what I'm saying it's definitely is definitely um like investing in yourself of course but like I was like investing down to my last dime like any type of money that I got any type of money that I made I put it all into what I was trying to do and like really blocking out the noise like it was a lot of people telling me like what the fuck is you doing you crazy sit your ass down all this other stuff but I just kept on continuing on what I felt like was right yeah so where so when was that stuff happening how old were you

I was like 18, 19. And also, when were you in, you said you were, you were in jail, I'm assuming at certain times? This is all in the same time period. Yeah. Because I didn't really start rapping, like the first time I ever went to the studio, I was 17. So from 17, all the way up until I got to sign when I was 19. Okay. I signed my record deal.

And between 17 and 19, this one, all of that was going on. What did you go to jail for? I was going to jail for like selling drugs. I got into like a high speed chase before. 17, 18. Yeah. There's like a lot of different shit. And where I'm from, though, this petty shit, though.

Like this ain't no serious crimes. Right. So like to me it was just like lessons though. Like, damn, I'm studying these situations that could have been worse. I need to be learning something. yeah and that's what was making me look at it differently yeah speaking of crimes what do you think about all the stuff that's going on with ditty right now uh you i'd ask you you're the industry maybe okay maybe you don't speak on ditty directly fair but do you have any sort of um

relationship with like kind of like the shadiness of the industry like what you mean about like like have you ever been in a situation where someone was like yo bro you got to do this and you're like that's not like not sexually not talking about that at all just like in the industry have you ever been in a position where you're like this it just felt fucking weird like someone wants you to do something that you're not comfortable doing and I'm not speaking sexually at all I'm just saying like maybe like write a song about this and you're like you know what I'm saying like is there ever influence like that in the industry my I personally never experienced that but I feel like because just like the way I'm coming a lot of people

wouldn't need, you know, like, a lot of people around me just be scared to say a, I wouldn't say scared, I don't know, but like wouldn't come to me with a lot of shit just because the way I carry myself or like the disposition I have. And I stay away from people a lot, like, or, like, out of the line, like, I'd be trying to pop out a little bit more just to show my face, you know, but, like, a lot of times I don't need to be around or in certain settings where, where I, I could be putting that type of... Yeah, position, I see. Is being an industry at all?

Like, have you been like... I don't know. Like, have you ever felt like burnt out being in the music space? For sure. For sure. Yeah, I felt like... Because what happened recently with your... The Hood Poet was supposed to release and it didn't release?

Yeah. I ended up... That was because you went through some shit, right? Yeah, I ended up going through... some um like a little situation you know and um that just caused me to push it push my album back I actually too like I just weren't feeling like the time was right no more like with everything that I had going on I wanted it to be like a smooth rollout like something that I was used to with me dropping three albums prior to that and in a deluxe which damn near like a fourth album no so

So I just wanted to steal, like, had that type of smooth transition, like, from moment to moment with my rollout. And I feel like that fucked it up. What actually happened? Because it was stuff in Miami, right? No, I wouldn't really a situation in Miami. It was, like, some shit that was supposed to, like, some shit that was allegedly going on with my younger brother. But all that. It had nothing to do with you.

Yeah. all that shit was all that shit because they love the blogs love like pop that shit out and be like look at this yeah you know that's just how this go though when you're in this type of position because I didn't need

really like expect for certain shit to go the way that it did with like being inside of my community you know yeah what do you mean by that like certain people within my community like filming and stuff like that got it like i would expect my fucker out a little more respect for me but so so oh shit but then it's like so so

i'm assuming that's what happened is someone in your circle did something they probably shouldn't have done yeah i don't want to keep on that's fair that's fair yeah all good um so when stuff like that happens do is it like uh is it like some PR shit where you have to to like try to get people to like take down like fucking because you know how you know how like all the the the rappers whatever people people now go to like streamers and they make content and then everything just kind of gets like fucking picked apart and you because like you have never really had anything that was like oh this is this is a problem or this is an issue for the most part like no drama I guess stuff like that I guess the question I'm leading towards is um as far

as like your team goes have you have you tried to like make that tighter since then Or have you been like, you know what I'm saying? I always keep my shit like pretty like wrapped up, I'll say, or like it ain't really a situation that I got to go clean up. Yeah, I guess you. Or like next time this might not happen because for the most part, like we were saying earlier, like I don't really be in shit. Yeah. And I stay clear a lot of shit like that. So it ain't really none.

I could just continue on like the moving. I've been moved. Yeah. So the Hood Poet thing, that's coming out in August then, right? Now? That's what it's planned for? Yeah, that's where it's slated for maybe sooner. Sooner, yeah.

Maybe. Which, by the way, before we started, I mentioned something about a crazy stat. I was looking this up. I didn't even know this was real, but you apparently are the only rapper in history that has like three albums at all, like 10 songs on each album, are either platinum or gold. Yeah. That's fucking crazy. Yeah.

like do like that's does that ever trip you up because like we're not i'm talking about like drake low wang all these people you're the only one who has that stat yeah which is nuts because that means those songs got played to a crazy degree yeah does it ever like i don't know do you ever just does ever fuck your ego because that's like billions of fucking plays well i wouldn't say it like i don't know i just never get wrapped up into my ego though like A lot of times, I don't really, I wouldn't really brag on this or say it's a good thing, but like a lot of times I forget who I am, like, in a way, like, as far as like my status where I'm not so, like, wrapped up in my head that, oh, I'm Polo G, this rapper that did

because, like, I know outside of the accolades, like, it's like just me being me or doing me and living on this specific island where it's like the people who, rock with me or mess with me are interested in what I got going on. So I don't walk around or like walk around like everybody's supposed to care. Yeah. So it's just like harder for me to just look at it like the wrong way. Yeah. It's a crazy accomplishment though.

Yeah, no, I definitely appreciate it because I'm so passionate about my music though. It's definitely a testament to how far came. Sometimes it just appreciating it though, that should make you want to cry. Yeah. Well, that's why I'm kind of getting at. Like, do you, because I can look back on my career and I've been doing this for so long. Obviously, I'm not a rapper.

I don't have fucking millions of listens like you do. I'm in a different way. And I spent so much time, like, just building that, like, I didn't spend a lot of time sometimes, like, stopping and being like, wow, this is so amazing. Like, I'm so grateful. And obviously, I'm very grateful, but I can look back on my life and go, like, damn, I could have slowed down more and been like, this is so great. Not that I'm great, but the fact that I was able to even be here,

even like have these conversations even people like you who talk to you like that's a that's a greatness in my life that i'm grateful for right so it's like do you spend time and slow down and like really look at that because i didn't do it till i was like fucking 30 and i was like damn i wish i did this more because i felt like it also propelled me to want to be greater yeah no i'm learning to do it more like with certain moments or situations just always like giving thanks or showing gratitude for the position that i'm in so Like, I have my moments, though, but it's definitely something that I've been on myself, like, more about, like, just sitting back and just appreciating all of the blessings that's going on in my life right now. Yeah.

What do you think in your life creates the most anxiousness? Have you ever struggled with, like, anxiety and things like that? Yeah, I always, damn there, I always got anxiety. about what i don't know it's just sometimes it's just like i just feel that and i'm not really the like i'm i was saying early on like i'm not really that much of a social person so a lot of times like i can be in my head about social interactions or just something as simple as saying what's up to somebody yeah that like i know them but i don't know like i'd be before the walk up i'd be thinking in my head like should I say it now or time in or it's funny because I that's so

real because I've just the experience that I've had with you like that I know you it's like I could tell you have like that and I have the same shit I'm super awkward sometimes I don't like I'm afraid to approach people even in like my own spaces but is it is it like where do you think that comes from for you because of like the you think it's because people look at you a certain way because they're expecting things from you? No, it ain't that. It's just I've been that way for so long that back then I didn't really have to think about it

because so many people wouldn't give a fuck. But now I feel like I'm in a position where, so I guess it's kind of it's like that, but now I'm in a position where more, like more people do know me or, I'm just connecting with so many months, with a lot of more people. Yeah.

So is it a pressure thing? Yeah, a little bit. But just like, period, just like having eyes on me, having to make contact with people talking to people, a lot of times that shit gives me a lot of anxiety or just knowing that I'm being seen. Yeah, I get you. I'm trying to think, like, where along the lines would I deal with that the most?

when I like I don't know do you do you ever besides music in your in your personal life do you ever think that like you're doing the wrong thing have you ever felt like you're doing something wrong like are you hard on yourself for sure yeah or like yeah I feel like sometimes I can feel like I'm doing the wrong thing as far as like time management

Like, I'd be on myself heavier about that or just, like, getting distracted. Like, oh, I've been on my phone for X amount of hours, just scrolling and going from app to app. And I'm like, damn, I could have been doing so much other shit. Like, I beat myself up about it or, like, I've been to the stew this whole week, but I only made this many songs and I could have made more if I just cut out a little more of the chatter or cut out a little bit more of, like, just fucking around. I'd be always on myself about shit like that. Yeah. The Hood Poet thing, the album that's coming out,

is there going to be different music? Like, are you going to bring something new? Because you know, a lot of times, like, people expect, like, you know, the Drake shit with, like, oh, they always want the same old Drake. Are you doing anything that's like left field? Because you did this song, what is it called? On something hard. Heartbroken.

Heartbroken. You did this song Heartbroken. With Diplo. With Diplo and the Jesse girl. I'm curious because, like, that, like, Why do you, obviously, like, I get it, the marketing of it, right? Or, like, getting into new genres. But, like, have you noticed, I don't know, I don't know, do you,

I don't know if you even look at your analytics or whatever, but has that expanded your audience? Because there's, like, a super kind of, like, country vibe. I don't know. I didn't really look into my analytics or, like, to see, like, what real differences it made, but. Because I always curious, like, when artists do. when they do like the crossover stuff like i know bianca's i feel like she's doing like a whole

coming soon like a whole uh country sort of vibe yeah um and like do you see yourself basically what i'm asking really in regard to your album is like are you going to make like new sounds on it like do you try to push yourself to make new sounds or do you kind of like stay away from it because people go like uh old polo i want the old polo you know somewhat i feel like i play with some new sounds like here and there but for the most part of it This album is more so fixated on connecting with my roots, the music that I started out doing. Because my last project, prior to this, that's when I was trying, like, left-field things or shit that I wouldn't have did, like, naturally. Like, I was, like, kind of forcing myself to switch it up a little bit.

But, like, this time, I'm just, like, doing me connecting to my roots. really like going back to the heartfelt music or just speaking from the heart in general. Yeah, so that, that idea, right? Like, how, because, like, I'm trying to imagine, like, as a content creator, obviously I'm not writing music, but a lot of times when I'm making content, I can think of back on, like, a lot of videos I've filmed

in, you know, in the fitness space or just a YouTube space, and I'm, like, talking about things that are relevant to my life. And that's always when, like, those videos would hit because it was just very sincere and real. So for you, it's like, if you don't keep going through sort of hardships, like, how do you

keep progressing the music, right? Because, like, you grew up in a way different way than your life is now. So it's like, how do you continue to push that, that, I guess, that note forward or that envelope forward in regards to, like, real shit if it's just different now?

Yeah, it takes a lot of, like, reflecting, you know, and trying to find creative ways to still tell a story because, like, even, young I don't went through and witnessed a lot so like I can tell stories for days but it's like still too it's a different type of struggle but it's still a struggle though like even though I'm in a better position though I still like got certain struggles that come with my lifestyle now and I'm still going through different different things here and there that I can still talk

about and like that people can relate to you know yeah what do you think because i i guess the artists that that really sent out for me on this is like i think like juice world and shit was really good at just talking about like his daily life uh obviously in relationship to like drugs and drug abuse you know rip but what do you think now you deal with the most it's like to your heart uh obviously family stuff but are you like what do you i guess i'm really kind of curious like what is really hard not that this is not at all me saying your life's not hard right but what's what's most trying in your life like what's hardest in your life right now just really dealing with being a person that's in the like in the leading role position you know

like taking care of body answering the phone for everybody really like trying to weave out who using you, who not, cutting off certain friends and in certain relationships, like, that aspect of it get real difficult. Like, being a person with the money, that's definitely, like, a hard position of being. Yeah. Because, yeah. You fuck up, so many, like, so many people are willing to fuck up a relationship because of what you have yeah that's real fuck that's a lot it's a lot man i don't think people get that i mean

and at your age and at when you started for you like 19 that's you're still growing just as a human like as a person and like learning how to deal with that especially in regard to like whether it be like family members or close friends like that definitely fucks you up so i guess like how do you how do you and you know we talked earlier about red flags with like women but like how do you not now spot red flags with like friends or family like are you like oh i you know i see this like because obviously family it's like it's hard to cut that's way harder to cut off than you know some random person or a girl so how do you deal with that sort of it's just like knowing trying to figure out what people hear that where they're harder because like it's it's one

thing to lean on me when you need something and me looking out for you, but like me paying attention to who too consistent and what conversations are we having outside of you asking me for something, is this the only time that we speak in

shit like that? Make me even family like I fall back off you if I feel like you just strictly use me. Yeah. So with the girl stuff, right? because you got a girl like how do you have you had the same girl for a while or is it like

yeah for a while almost like three years now probably passed i don't know she probably don't get on my no no no shit what did i do fuck no no no that's i mean so much to think about it's a lot of things man i it's good though obviously for sure like how do you know that because i mean i guess you wouldn't have had if it's three years i mean you would have had some time before that like how do you know someone's there for you for you and not for like what you have like how are you determining that now i ain't gonna lie this might sound crazy but i don't really find a problem in somebody being wanting to be with me for what i have it's if that's the only reason though because i know certain women look at looking for a man to be a provider for them so like naturally

I feel like a woman could look at you and be like, oh, yeah, he's going to be able to take care of. I think that's reasonable as far. Yeah, but it's like when you can see, like, her intentions ain't pure with you, like, she'd probably use and you to not only get your money, just some extra little fame or cloud. Yeah. And she just only trying to, you know, like her heart ain't in the right place. That's when it's like, well, I probably got to fall back off her. Yeah.

How could you tell those? She'd be like, put me in the IG photo. Yeah, no, the girls who are too quick to. post a picture with you I'll probably just met your ass three months ago and that's a that's a that's one of them rare flags

that's a big one yeah the fucking the circles of fucking meconos and the fucking post me on your shit it's crazy man the world's so crazy nowadays like this shit like

not getting back to the ditty thing but like the world is like do you ever get on like Twitter and like look at what other people are saying not about you just about like politics and life and I'm not going to going to make this a political talk at all, but have you ever been concerned with like where the world's at or you just don't, do you not put yourself in it? Because like, it's a crazy

place now. Yeah. No, I'll be seeing a lot of shit. I tried not to, like, indulge in it too much. Like, definitely don't beef with 50 cent, right? Like, that's probably a problem. You see what 50 post crazy shit? No, 50 be on. He'd be on that. I know whoever beefing with him, hate, hate every day of their life. Because he'd be on it. But, like, so, so in regards to like the world is it does it ever just like i don't know because you have kids do you ever get concerned with like their future i guess because it's fucking it's just a weird time man like social media technology the way people are just constantly sort of at everyone else's neck like it's like always like some sort of whether it's a race thing or like a political

disagreeance it's like everyone is constantly fucking i don't know trying to like make someone else wrong so they feel right for sure like do you think about like does that does that stuff ever like stress you or does it worry like you worry for your kids and stuff like that because i i i'm asking his question because i don't have kids yet i really do want to have kids one of my concerns is like the world is so fucked obviously i'm not saying this is an excuse for me to not have kids but that is one of my concerns like leading into being a father yeah i ain't gonna lie back then i used to not want to have a kid because how crazy the world is But I think, like, shit, I came out pretty decent

and the world been fucked up. Yeah, it's been fucking. Like, my parents instilled the right, like, more was in principles than me. So that's all I try to think about, like, making sure you monitoring your child, what they're watching or looking at on the Internet. Because a lot of kids, nowadays, they apply heavy.

Yeah. And they just get lost in it. You've got to make sure they're on the right shit on there or just looking over what they're watching. So you growing up, you had good direction from your parents. For sure. Yeah. For sure.

There's still big parts of your life as far as direction-wise? Yeah. Because not your dad, I gave you some fucking game early on. Yeah. Like, I'm real close to my pops. I'm close to my mom. My mom, she's part of my management team. So, like, I'm close with both of my parents.

We grew up in, like, a household where we was all close. like me my me and my siblings my parents like we was always together you know yeah how important was that do you think for you in growing up real it was it was real important because it made me want the same thing just just a little better of course but yeah yeah but now so again this is something we talked about before we got on camera but now everyone's like living with you you said it happened like slowly over time yeah who was i wonder who was the first person who went to live with you from your family i say it was my pops my pops uh he used to have his own crib been a shot i i was like one the like it was kind of more so on me like telling him to just

come out here yeah because like i was i my son was like a new still like a newborn baby around the time so i definitely felt like we needed that older person for guidance and help you know because me and my son parents were young yeah you know so i feel like i needed that extra help and he just stuck around you know was it were you ever like when having the kid your first kid would you ever like damn i'm really not ready for this no i ain't never think that it was afterwards i'm i learned that i was too young but i ain't that When you say too young, like, because you're like, fuck, this is a lot of work, or I didn't know how much time it was going to take? Like, I just feel like mentally I wasn't in the best place to be a parent so young.

Like, I didn't even mature enough yet. Yeah, I was still a kid myself. Yeah. Damn. So what do you enjoy the most outside of music right now? I like Besides a gym I know you like a fucking gym

I like to play basketball From time to time You're just super like Mellow low key Yeah I don't know I like I definitely like cars

I don't even drive a lot I just I don't know I just be buying shit though To be totally honest I don't know Like yeah for the most part I'd just be chilling if it's yeah that's another thing just chilling at home no crystals and

shit and crystals in your house you would hippie like me or what no I need to get up on it though a little bit more because my sister she like heavily in tune with shit like that yeah yeah she'd be teaching me like a lot of spiritual shit I learn or shit like that she she'd be put me up on game on spirituality and shit yeah are you are you religious guy no no no more spiritual yeah what do you how do you practice that like what does she what does she teach you she'll just be putting me you know like i so say for instance like she's like a solar eclipse is coming you got okay oh no like say for instance really the the clips coming there's certain shit you would probably do or ritual you will probably do and i probably be in the crib

doing that shit with just because i don't know i feel like that should be real though yeah Yeah. Well, that kind of stuff, it's interesting because that sort of stuff is like super, super old, like meaning like people have done that, I think even before really religion or the inventive religion, like tribes and different cultures had like things that they followed in relationship to the star. So that's maybe why it probably feels like real because to a real extent it is. Like it's something that people have followed for a very long time. Yeah. Have you noticed any stuff like that help you in your music? Or is it just because I'm like when you're writing music, are you just like sitting in a room like thinking about, okay, is it what someone else is going to like to hear or is it like where I'm really at? Or is it a combination of the two? I say a combination because really my earlier music and like and I can say I'm definitely getting back to that like the formula formula that I had in the beginning like in my early. music like I'm gonna speak from the heart but then it's like certain lines that have come up in my head now I think like yeah my homie's gonna like this and whenever it's like that like I feel

like my homie's gonna like it the whole world end up liking it like I don't know why I don't know maybe because of where we from you know and being like from the hood and shit like we we heavily influenced like culture so I feel like whatever they're gonna like the world on like most of the time what what what really influences you because obviously you're a part of the culture yeah right and where you've come from and the music you've made but what really heavily influences you I try to find a lot of different like things to inspire me just through my day-to-day I can I can't really tell like do you listen to like different music like you listen to like random right

like country or some shit like do you listen to other genres and like get inspired in ways yeah like sometimes though i could say though um when i be listening like some of the bigger artists that that are just like pop back out for like a verse or a freestyle like i could remember this time like j cole had dropped like whatever whichever was the last album that he dropped I listened to the fourth thing and then he dropped the freestyle on the LA radio station

I can't remember I don't went up there four times but the LA radio station and me just hearing him rapping how good it was I'm like damn I need to step my shit up a little bit though like that's what's making me

or like I see like this this but what is the thing that when you hear that right you hear it i'm sorry interrupted you but you hear the j cole verse is it the things he's saying or the way he says it which is the thing that like you go damn i like i like i could be better it's a thing i ain't gonna lie he got the flow the the the lyrics the lyricism everything it's like he really he really that and listening to it because i'm i'm i come up from a real hip-hop background

like my household we really real hip hop fans i listen to older artists you know like and you can probably even hear that in my music like i take mute i take rap a lot more serious than probably my peers to do because yeah that's just how i was brought up and i'm i'm a big fan of the art as a whole so yeah i think like that make me like damn this nigger phone or this nigg going hard He's Jay Cole's fucking, in my opinion, probably one of the best rappers of all time. Yeah, for sure. So what do you think about the big three? So you think we've got the beef going on, Drake, Kendrick.

I feel like it's good. It's a great thing for hip-hop right now. Yeah. A great thing. I always wonder if it's orchestrated. Oh, I don't know. I think it's a natural thing. Like, we are all competitive people.

I think it's bringing competitiveness back to the sport, to the, like, to the genre. I feel like that's definitely something we needed, though. Yeah, I love it. I think it's great. I mean, you know, you see, like, I think Drake's dad posted something about, like, oh, I'm dropping an album, so I'm going to start some beef with Drake to get some views. Do you think that's why people do it? I don't think so.

Because, like, it's like future already had him. He's good. Like, he was going to drop regardless. Definitely not this group of people that we talk because they are all out of this world. But it's definitely some people out there. But I feel like probably used that as a tool for promotion and shit like that. But them guys, I think they just elite at what they do and just being competitive about it. I just always wonder how real it is because it's like, damn, they don't even need.

Like, in my opinion, I'm thinking, like, I'm just imagining Drake calling Future and being like, you know, in Future be like, you're okay with that. He's like, yeah, whatever, fuck it. Like, because it's like they're both getting, you know, because I think that was that song is like massive. The one with Kendrick. Yeah. Because it's because of the beef. Yeah.

But the song is hard. Like crazy. Yeah. That's hard. That song. Yeah. So it's funny. Because you never get in any beef.

Or you should start beef with Drake. I don't know. Why not, dude? I feel like it's time. He's from fucking Canada, dude. Come on. It's like Canada. Come on.

I just. I just, I don't know. In my head, I'm obviously not, right? But I just always wanted, because you're, you're so in your lane. I always just wonder, like, man, is he ever going to get into some drama? Like, with some other artists. This is not for you. On some rap shit, though, I ain't going to lie.

Like, if it was more so, like. Like, who are you better then? Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I just think it's funny. Like, like, on some rap shit of somebody. challenge me off a show how to throw a shot back just for the love of the sport though yeah

like you got to though just to show like whether or not you better yeah on that what do you think about people who like because nowadays it seems like a lot of people i mean rap got to a point where it was just like people are just making music for fucking ticot to make a sound you know what i'm saying like what do you think about that sort of style of like approaching the music. I don't, I'm not really a fan of that. I like the passion and the music. I like real music.

Do you ever get pressed by like labels to be like, yo, you got to make this sort of sound? No, not for real. They just be wanting me to do my thing. Like, they just want me to be me. Yeah. I feel like there's some people, though, that's just like, I don't know.

I don't know what year was it when like all these fucking random rappers came out of like sound cloud and shit and just started sounding the same. You know when that mumble shit started getting popular? Yeah. What was your perspective on that? Because you're, you definitely don't mumble. You like, you fucking rap.

So when that started coming out and rising up, is just like, do you look at it and you're like, this is shit or do you understand the... It depends on the rapper. Because a lot of rappers, like, and nowadays, there's so many sub-genres to hip-hop or rap as like a lot of new sounds being created within a genre man and some of the shit is like really dope though like or like from a creative standpoint like the shit like it's different like it's

something that you grow to like accept or like fuck with yeah do you ever do you ever think you're going to do more like singing kind of shit I feel like I dabble in that lane right now a lot but definitely like full-fledged yeah because I took vocal lessons a few times that I want to start diving back into doing

just to get better all around so I can have those type of records where I'm just like full-fledged singing yeah that seems so much harder yeah singing seems so much harder for sure not that rap's fucking easy obviously I'm not a rapper but singing you either sound good or you don't

kind of yeah what's your what's your sort of direction in music like obviously you're still in it you're still fucking releasing albums are you gonna release like a bunch more albums is it like do you have a bunch of songs that you haven't released like how does that work and are you and like where are you going with it all like are you going to stay making music or where do you see the evolution going I like I made in these past three years that I made so much and not even to mention like in the prior years but I I thought I made so much music like I got enough to put out a lot of more albums like in the

double digits for sure but I don't I don't see myself rapping for so long I mean you never know but like me personally I don't see myself rap for that much longer yeah what sort of what sort of uh what sort of direction would you go in the music industry after that or just like a get the fuck out. I don't know. A label CEO or something. Well, I am already. I got my own record label. Only Dreams Achieve. But I'm saying like really that's the only role I play type of shit. I always wonder how that works though because I'm like in the music industry it seems like I don't know if I saw, I mean I've seen stuff about this before, but I've seen Snoop Dog talk about like streaming and like the amount of money he actually made on these songs that like did billions and billions of views. I've always wondered like do the late. labels, obviously, because I'm assuming when they sign you at 19, they, like, probably pay you a certain amount of money. Then you're going to fulfill this, like, quota of albums or whatever it is.

I feel like they take so much from the artist. Yeah. Some people be having fucked up contracts. Some people got better ones. Some people got decent ones. How did you, did you set yourself for victory in there? Or you're, like, owning the masters and that kind of stuff? For sure.

Did you know that? that like going into it like i wonder who helped you with it uh my lawyer my my my mama she was keen she knew my mama just a smart person and she was this before this before she was i even like put on pen and paper that's my manager yeah okay so she was looking over a lot of my paperwork that was coming in for me taking ease there's me and Here and nearer. Because I feel like a lot of artists get fucked, like, taking advantage of, essentially. And, like, you know, I hear about, like, artists like Russ and stuff, where they, like,

it's all independent. Like, if you went back, would you do it differently? Would you try to be completely independent? No. No. Because I needed to leave Chicago, I feel like. And signing was a way to leave it. Yeah, because I feel like that's, I would have been waiting on the type of money that I got, like, advanced to me.

I see. Why does you feel like you need to leave Chicago? Chicago, man, it's just a place where you can the trouble would get you or you can get into trouble. But eventually it's going to get you, you feel like, right? No, because get you would mean the worst thing. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So you feel like that would have been imminent for you.

No, no, I want to say that. Oh. I'll just say that it's just a bad place to like, stay when you're trying to when you're trying to elevate because Chicago like we got the spotlight as far as people looking at us and seeing

like oh what's what's next you know but yeah like actually being there like the opportunities are limited like they don't really cater as many rappers that came out of that they don't really cater to rap music and they say it's not that many

studios or record labels and people that you can go and talk to and meet it's like you got to leave and venture off to really make real connections that's going to benefit you so that's like a place like la yeah like la definitely i feel like la definitely helped me being the the best position possible as far as like music networking locking in with producers Just running into people at times. Who do you still really want to make music with? You can do another song with T.J.

That shit went so crazy, first time. Yeah, I got a lot back in with T.J. But I don't, I can't really, I don't really know no artists. Because, like, I got songs with damn there, everybody. Yeah. Yeah, about damn there, yeah, every person that rap. So you just go, do you go to different genres now, or what? I was just I'm always just curious about like the evolution of like you've released so many songs like because I think of it in relationship to content I'm like I've done so like fitness for example I've done every sort of like bench press whatever the fuck teach this and then it gets to a point where it's like I can't keep doing this yeah for me like where artists is more like if I make a song that I feel like like I won't force a feature yeah like if I made a song that I feel like that they have fit on then I reach out

But outside of that, like a person I had to reach out to me. So it's really like whether it come to me or not. Yeah. I wonder, I wonder like, is there sort of like a hierarchy of like people not wanting to work with other people because of where they're at, like music wise or like popularity wise? Because I always wonder why certain people don't come together. Yeah, some, I could, I definitely, I feel like some, some artists do feel like they, too big to connect with, like, artists on the rise, but that could even work into your benefit because they can keep you relevant in the space that you ain't really known. Like, everybody got their own audience, audience, demographic that they got following them. so like right now say it could be an artist from like Oklahoma just there's like weird some weird shit

it's this new hot rapper from Oklahoma and he's killing it right now and like I got a fan base I got a fan base in Oklahoma but if I directly go and link up with him and connect with him then that can just blow blow me up more in that place in the in the cities next to it you know like shit like that count like somebody like even Drake I feel like he understand that oh yeah he understand that

I feel like he's always the one to like find these new people do a single with him sign him blow up and that guy's fucking a mastermind man but I don't think I don't think he's

I don't know if he's gone to Diddy parties or not you did these parties? Yeah I got it yeah I'm always just curious I'm just so curious about that fucking industry dude It's so crazy right now

Don't talk directly about it But do you ever look at it like What the fuck is going on? I don't look I don't look I keep my eyes and ears cover That's so crazy man I just like yeah

Maybe if you showed up You know it could have got like a different To one of the parties I wouldn't I don't even know no parties I don't know the address do nothing Well, okay, what's your perspective on, on like, I guess the world now thinking, like, oh, if you go, people go to these parties, it's like a certain, like, I don't know, dude, like a group. It's like Illuminati type shit.

Some of that shit is just being blown out of, like, something that shit ain't that deep, man. Yeah. Some people is really, so it's parties happening where motherfuckers drink, listen to the music, and go their ass home. Yeah. Like, some of that shit is just being dragged in the media. Yeah. And, like, you know, people from an outside perspective just be, like, just doing too much with the shit sometimes.

Yeah. There's definitely, there's definitely an aspect of that, for sure. Yeah. For sure. And it's like people love, I don't know, people are so, I've talked to us on a few pods. People are so, like, attached to negativity on things. Like, they want to see the negative shit.

And this day and age more than never. Yeah. Yeah. This shit actually crazy how negative the world is right now, especially like places like Twitter and shit like that. Oh, bro. People thrive off just saying some negative shit for Cloud or laughs or like it could be some shit that they don't even wholeheartedly believe, but they know it's going to get a lot of attention. Yeah. Why do you think that is just because the nature of like trying to get views and trying to get attention? people yeah and people like fucked up in the head like attention is like more important

damn they're more important than money these days like yeah i don't see motherfucker in the comment section say thank you for all these likes like why why are you saying thank you for some shit that's not real like i see you're just saying like how's this like what is this something to be happy about yeah that's weird that's weird it's like it's like it's almost like telling on yourself it's like you did this just for that not it was not that it was not that it had anything of real merit or like sincerity you just do it because you knew you're going to get a reaction yeah that shit's so fucking weird to me the internet right now for sure it's like very very fucking blainting at this point so you i guess i guess in regards for you is like you just don't

you just like disengage with all that shit you know like like you don't yeah like you just don't engage no i'll be on the internet i'd be on the internet i be on the internet shit i'm owning enough to know how weird it is so I'm definitely on that but I just don't like yeah I guess you would say like I don't engage in a negative way yeah like I try not to look into comment sections too much but the type of artists I am we're trying to connect to my fans like I try to it's delicate probably yeah yeah I try to do it a little bit though just to keep the connection between them but like you gotta really make sure you limit in that shit because it's like bad for for your health mentally.

Yeah. Why do you think people are so caught up in the negative shit? It's really like, you know, like, I think one of my theories is, you know, back then when you seen anybody or any type of importance, you only seen them like when it was time. Like you rarely or probably see these people just out and about. But now on social media, you seeing these people. all the time and it's like you only seeing their highlights

so now social media created a culture where everybody only going to show their highlights nobody going to go on social media and be like oh shit fucked up for me right now oh I'm driving this beat up ass car something like nobody going to say shit like that or during their grind

it's just more so like oh I'm doing good and all and that type of culture make people like hate on each other hate each other or hate they selves like for the predicament they in when we all going at our own pace it's nothing to compare i see it's interesting so you're saying it's like the idea that because it's the people mostly just show their best foot they glorify what they're doing there's not so much of the

the bad in it all like for them like me being like yo like you said i'm driving this fucked fucked up car or like this didn't go the way i wanted to go because it was all so painted so perfectly that people are like really vying like looking for the negative And then it's like one of them type of things where like right now say you was you was on a come up right now and during that process because that's so relatable, everybody going to be rooting for you. But the minute and second you finally make it and now that's setting stone, that's been to piss a bunch of people off where they're going to go from go, go, go, yeah, you doing your things. it man fuck that dude like why the fuck is that real though i don't know well like i really want to understand the science behind it but it's definitely a thing to where when you get to the point where you need to be so many people just are going to hate you for that yeah i think it just it just

has to come down to the fact that the people they related to the struggle because they're in the struggle and they want the thing that that person's chasing and because they don't have it it's easier to say oh fuck this person for all these things because they're not they're like more comfortable instead of looking at themselves and being like I should be doing these things because like as you watch the journey you're like oh like I can relate to these moments but then when it's there and they have it they're like man fuck that guy like he's got it I want it it's more of like the selfish nature of it yeah for sure this is a weird it's just weird the internet I mean it's been like that forever it's just so crazy now I think because like all the different

forms of success that you could have on the internet whether like you're an artist or you're a content creator or you have something in like a some sort of niche or audience it's just so much easier for people to be like to pick people apart and like I can't tell you how many people who see me and been like have said things about what I have not knowing anything about my life at all or where I've actually come from and just making an assessment on where I am right now and it's just like what's the point of that and I and I truly don't understand because all successful people I've ever talked to and I've talked to fucking billionaires tons of like just crazy levels of success and those people who have the success are never doing those things that the. people who don't have success are doing like they're never being like oh fuck that guy he has stuff that i don't have it they're more thinking like oh i'm going to work harder to get that instead of like let me tear this guy down because i don't have it yeah i just wonder where like i don't know i wish more people understood that shit they just don't get it i don't think or maybe they don't want to see it because it's easier to just look at oh fuck that guy because i'm not

where i want to be yeah i feel like though it's it's so many many layers And so much shit out there that just brainwash people, though. I don't, I think, I don't think it's just those people fault 100%. I think it's so, so much shit going on in this world to fuck our ears up mentally or just like brainwash us in a way or have us on the wrong shit. Because, yeah, even with the, the, the shit that I know, I still feel like I'm set back some for certain shit that I indulge in. or just even being on social media at times like me living in that space too even though

i'm doing it in a different way i feel like we all kind of in the trance what sort of things are you talking to for yourself like are you speaking to what you mean like you said there's certain things that you get caught up in no like that's what i'm saying like certain shit like playing the net too much being on the internet too much uh just being distracted with the wrong shit i say or just looking at things the wrong way or looking at i can look at some personal shit in a negative light that i'm not posed to be and i wouldn't be i feel like i wouldn't be if i wouldn't indulged in the wrong shit sometimes you know yeah like being self-conscious about certain shit or like

overthinking a lot of times when I shouldn't have to Yeah Be you self-conscious because what you're reading comments about things About people like on your music or Stuff like that or is it like a personal thing I don't get it Like being just self-conscious about

Like the amount of work I'm putting in When I know I'm with myself Every day I know how much work I put there But like Falling into the trap or feeling like I'm not where I need to be you know sometimes too as far as like uh like certain moments in my career that ain't happening for me right now because no matter how far you get in your career unless you like one of those those top top artists though you gonna always feel like it's more to be done or more

to accomplish and shit yeah what do you feel like you haven't done that Like, what are you speaking to directly? Is it like, it's not enough? Like, I feel like, I feel like I got to just really still continue on with the success that I already had and making sure that that continue to happen, though. And I feel like I haven't been as consistent as I usually would be because I just came from a cycle of dropping an album

every nine months for the first three years in my heart. career. Yeah. And now I haven't dropped the album in three years. Yeah. So that type of, I see, I see. Shit, like, I just be looking at, you know. Is it, is it because you just don't, is it because you don't need to? Is it ever moments where you're just like, I don't, I don't need to, or? No, never that. I, if I could, shit, if I could have stayed on that same cycle, dropping an album every nine months I would have. Because you know when you say, like, you have all this music, right? How come it's not that simple just to drop the albums? Because it like, like it could be some personal shit that pop up.

Okay. That derail me. Sometimes I'm not in the best place mentally to even talk to nobody. So as I mean, it definitely would be hard to drop a song and just knowing that I'm trying to get all this attention. And sometimes it's just like going through the motions of being a rapper, you know, it's agreements that got to be worked out. Okay. you got to talk to your label meetings with the label this shit prolonging that thing and it's like a lot of shit be slow to happen yeah that's why i was asking you like if you could have done it without a

label i wonder if like you know because like just not having someone tell like because for me it's like everything i make it just because i want to make it and there's never any like no one's ever telling me don't do this or don't do that i just kind of like fucking do it or i don't yeah so you never you never like i guess i guess i'm kind of curious do you think for artists coming up now it's better to sign a label or be independent? I guess it depends on the circumstances. Yeah, that's definitely what it is. It depends on the circumstance because everybody got a different situation. Like if you really want to change your living situation along with your families, some people might go and sign a deal. Some people is, some people end up good enough predicament financially

where they don't have to rush to do that and they can get the mailbox money every month. I see. What do you want to do? Like, because I notice you got your guy for i think is that snapchat you said like what other platforms you really focus on because like you have you ever considered like doing vlogs i mean that's not really you doesn't seem so much of your personality but like would you ever do more social media content no i definitely thought about doing like vlogs and shit or coming out with a documentary or um i even wanted to i even want to get into like streaming or a little bit yeah we were talking about that in a second because that's fucking i feel like

that's so i'm really curious about this because obviously you know aden ross do you have an issue with aden ross no no okay that was like some internet shit man what was making shit up what was it it was like uh he was like pranking me i guess trolling me and uh and like this was a while back yeah i think like i was like one of the first situations that like like you know that everybody knew him from, you know, like our personal interaction. And, yeah, it was a situation where he was, like, pranking me where, like, my one of the producers I work with, I nerds, I think Zias and them, they slid on me, and we was doing the video, and that's when the prank happened.

And from there, like, people was making it more than what it really was, because I fuck where Aiden, though. I just actually like was talking with him back and forth in the DM just recently so yeah like we cool it was just like the internet being the end of the internet

yeah Aiden's dope man really cool guy he definitely changed the space a little bit as far as streaming goes and then Kai obviously he's fucking I feel like Kai's like the guy for music right now on top of like the fact that he's a big

streamer you know because Aiden kind of started that wave of like artists and like streaming then Kai's kind of like taking it to a different level but like I was saying earlier I'm always I've always been really curious like why maybe it's the exclusivity thing the reason why rappers don't really do it

but like no one's really like tried to be a streamer I'm not saying you gotta go fucking be a streamer or anything but I just wonder how that would convert because like clearly Aiden is an amazing streamer and he knows oh I can get these rappers or these artists on and Kai as well and have these viewership go crazy I wonder if like a rapper was just like

fuck it I'm just gonna stream and see what happens Like, I feel like wouldn't it go crazy? Yeah, that's what makes me want to, like, be one of those first artists that really try. I think it's some artists out there that davelling it. And, like, of course. Like, T-Pain streams. He's not, like, those mainstream artists now. But he's a big stream.

And I think he made more money streaming than he made making music, apparently. That's to what he said. Yeah, he crushes. Yeah. But, like, yeah, I wouldn't probably go at it, like, four. Yeah, you couldn't be doing eight hours. today. That's insane. But I don't know. Just some subtle

shit that I feel like it's cool enough for like a rapper, you know? Yeah. I just feel like there's so much there's so much value in like the streaming community but it's also so fucking toxic. Like you said something happened which probably wasn't that serious and everyone just makes it something that it's kind of not. Yeah. But

like do you see yourself doing more stuff like that? Like what? Like streaming? Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You got to go link with Aiden. Do what you should do a stream with Aiden? Yeah, I did one with them, though. Recent, though? No, no.

Yeah. That was like two years ago, I think. Yeah, he's doing new one, man. He's doing that, like, boxing shit, and his warehouse is super cool. Would you ever do any boxing stuff? Like, would I have a box? Yeah. Like another artist?

No, hell, no. No. I don't think that's on brand. Yeah. That's one of those things. I don't think. I don't know. On brand, why, though, just because, like.

I just don't really think it makes sense. Like, that's not how I was. want people to view me whether I'm winning or losing. I see. I ain't going to lie, though. The one fucker was offered me a hundred million dollars or so. You'd do it. I probably would get in that tree.

I'll do it too. What the fuck? In a second, bro. I ain't going to lie. It really depends, though. No, hell, no. My fuck can't advance me no million dollars and say, go fight. I'm going to be like, hell, no, no.

No, not a million. That's crazy. Hell, no. So there is a number. Yeah. Like I'm saying, for a hundred, I'm for sure getting in that ring. I'd get in the ring with anyone for a hundred. Yeah, I'm getting in that ring.

Damn. What about me and you who wins in a street fight? In a street fight? In a street fight? Because it's on the street, it wouldn't be a fight if you understand. Oh, okay. Good answer. It's a good answer.

It's a good answer. That's the answer I kind of expected. It's a good one. Yeah, because it's, you know, it's everything or nothing. So I get that. I respect it. Respect. I had to ask that because my fucking, my discord was like,

fucking asking who wins in a street fight? Kind of a joke, though. But so you wouldn't, there's no like, I guess 100 million would be the fucking number. Who would you want a box that's an artist? Look at me. You're trying to start these? I know, I know.

I ain't going to lie. One artist that I'd be seeing, he like nice with the hands, those blue face. I see nice. I see him nice. I seen Snap Dog too. You know Snapdog. He had an artist from Detroit.

I think he's pretty nice, too. DDG, fuck around with the boxing. He'd be rapping this shit, too. But, hey, me personally, I don't know. Yeah, not true thing. That's fair. So, man, listen, I appreciate you fucking coming. Sincerely, thank you.

And, dude, you fucking, I really, like, genuinely appreciate it because I know how busy you are. And I'm fucking asking you for, I don't even know how long, but I really respect you coming out, man. I appreciate you. And thank you for your fucking time, genuinely. I look forward to see you more at the gym working out training. Is there, is there like, I don't know, I guess on the gym tip,

because you're not, like, you're not in the fitness industry, right? But you're a fucking rapper. You're super fucking busy. What advice would you give to people who, like, want to be able to be consistent in the gym who always, because like, you know, most people are like, yeah, I want to do it. I just this, I just that. Like, clearly you probably have this and that and all those other things in your life kind of keeping you away from it.

What made you and what advice would you give to someone who really wants to be consistent in the gym? Because you've done it. Because I've seen you literally change. I'll say organizing your schedule more and stop making excuses, though. I definitely say scale back off certain, like vices, I say. Yeah. Like you are a heavy drinker and you park because it's hard going to the gym the next day after you don't got super. Super fucked up, man.

Yeah. So, like, scaling back off certain shit that don't really benefit you that much. Those are the only three things I say, though. Yeah. Because it seems like you just, you know, you've not made excuses for it. Like, you've just kind of done it. And it also seems like you kind of, you

have to fall a little bit in love with it. Yeah, for sure. Otherwise, it's like, oh, I have to do this instead of I want to do it. Yeah. Nowadays, though, it's like more of a discipline thing. Like, me telling myself, like, no, go to the I'm like, don't sit here and lay in the bed all day.

Yeah. Do you have a hard time with eating? Sometimes I do, I have my phase as well, like, every second I'm hungry. But I know that's, like, really important, like, towards growth. And that's the only way that I really made progression in the gym, though, for real. Because at first, I used to eat, like, once or twice a day. And I wasn't really getting nowhere as far as my weight. But I hired a chef and come.

every day. I make sure I'm eating four to five times a day. And that's what's helping me grow. You know, so crazy, that's why we ended the podcast because I'm so goddamn hungry right now. I swear to, I swear, I swear, but thank you, dude, for coming, for real. I really appreciate your time.

And obviously, Hood Poets coming out. You don't know the exact dates yet? No, yeah, but stay tuned. Yeah, yeah. How many songs are on there? 18. Yeah, 18. Also, one more question. I'm curious. Does the amount of I don't know if it was who was talking about this at one point or I saw this but does the amount of time on an album matter

It's actually sometimes it's in your contract like the album got to be this long this many songs minimum Okay but that shit really don't be matter like yeah for real like I'm quite sure your fans won one a 30 minute album though No that'd be mad I feel like at this point he'll be mad I feel like standard is like 45 minutes yeah that seems like so much shit well dude respect man thank you for coming appreciate happy happy to see you at the gym every once in a while and if you ever need anything i'm always here also your boy i told him you guys could use that other space if you want to shoot content or fucking just train and be fucking out of the way so you always welcome man appreciate you good man genuinely thank you