RAWTALK - RAMPAGE JACKSON vs. BRADLEY MARTYN

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, you look good, bro. What the... I didn't wait on my vacation. What the... But you're, like, fresh. Oh, yeah. Are you always fresh? I try my best.
Starting point is 00:00:09 Damn. My style from Memphis, baby. That's how we do. Man. You always had style? Yeah, man. I walked in this to kind of troll you, but, like, where did this come about? Oh, my brother gave me that when I was wrestling in high school.
Starting point is 00:00:25 When I first started wrestling, I lost my first five matches. because, you know, I was late to the game. I didn't start wrestling. I was 17, and he was like, man, if you wear the chain, you would intimidate your opponents. I didn't make it out here with this. He said, yeah, come on. Wear it.
Starting point is 00:00:41 He's my little brother, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, fuck it, okay. I wore it, and he was right. I went undefeated. After you started wearing the chain. At that, I went undefeated until, like, freestyle because it was a different type of wrestling. And then after that, I wore it, and then college,
Starting point is 00:00:55 I wore it, I wrestled a little bit in college. I suck, though, but. I walked out with my chain and my teammates troll me so hard and I took it off and I didn't wear it no more in college and then you know I never let people bother me but I just felt out of place because you know I'm new to wrestling and everybody on my team there they were really good everybody good so I was yeah you know I said I kind of felt like in a way and they they trolled me so hard and I took the chain off and I didn't wear it again until my first MMA fight did did it have the same effect there no I lost my first well my first my first my first my first my first I won. I only had two amateurs fight, then I went pro, and I got my kicked in my first pro fight. I was curious, like, to go, going pro, is that just because they're saying you're good to do it, or is it because you have to have a certain amount of, because you just said you only had two? Is there like a certain amount of fights you have to have before you go pro? No, MMA is totally different. And back then, I'm talking
Starting point is 00:01:49 like, like 22, two and three years ago. Yeah. When I started. And, um, you, OG, bro. Yeah, but straight up. Back, back in, back when MMA started, you know sometimes your first pro fight was your first fight ever and it's just my my first pro fight it was like a short notice fight I was training with this UFC legend Fabano Iha and he was he's from Brazil he's my first jujitsu coach and he just had ties with I was training his gym and he had ties with this show called King of a Cage and a lot of old school UFC champions came from King and Cage there's like a local show in California yeah and Indian
Starting point is 00:02:28 So a lot of us came out of there. And he just said, hey, you want to fight? They got this guy. They said he's a kickboxer. You know what I'm saying? You're a wrestler. You would just go and take him down, kick his... And he's going to get paid.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I was broke his... Like, hell yeah. Two weeks notice. You just took him down and you won because he... No, he kicked the shit out of me. They lied. He was a wrestler and a kickboxer. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But I didn't know much. I was inexperienced and I just took the fight. But then years later, the UFC, wanted me to come and fight Chuck Liddell. And so I was with this other organization and they kind of folded and the UFC bought that organization just to get my contract.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And I told him, you know, I didn't want to fight because I was friends with Tito and he was champion at the time. So I told him like, man, you guys want me to come over and fight. You guys got to you got to give me a rematch my first loss. Marvin Eastman. And that's what he did. That's my first fight in the UFC. Then
Starting point is 00:03:24 then I knocked them out in the second round. Yeah. So like, Before you got into the UFC, did, like, were you just a street fighter? Like, were you, like, were you good at wrestling and you were just good at swinging? Like, or did you train boxing? Yeah, I'm a brawler. Before I was in the UFC, I was fighting in Japan. It was a show called Pride FC.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. We don't talk about it much now because pride means something different now. Right. Right. Way different. Way different. But, dude, that was like, that was some of the most intense fighting, I feel.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah. A lot of people thought that the best fighters was in pride. in Japan but the rules was different over there and and over there they didn't test for steroids so a lot of those fighters was just on it they was just on it a lot of you never considered doing that then no I didn't no I didn't I didn't I didn't care anything about I never really knew what about like I recently I post I posted something because I did like a podcast with my friend Harrison Rogers and stuff and the subject came up and I told people like my first time fighting Japan I looked at the at the little sheet it was the rules meeting and they said, we do not test for anabolic
Starting point is 00:04:29 steroids. And I never heard I never heard of the word antibiotical steroids before. I've heard of the word steroids before. Yeah. But I didn't know what anatomoticals meant. Antabolic steroids. Yeah. Yeah. The word is antibiotic? Antabolic. Okay. So I never
Starting point is 00:04:44 heard it. And the comments like flame me like with crazy. Like he's lying. He's never heard of steroids. I'm like, it's not the word steroids that I'd never heard of. Anabolic steroids. Yeah. But what's the difference between steroids, antibiotic steroids. It's just a different description of it, but steroids
Starting point is 00:04:59 essentially are anabolic or endogenic and different steroids act differently in the body, like some are more anabolic, some are more endrogenic. Androgenic is like the more masculine side, like beard, shaping the face, like strength, and anabolic is more like the processes within the body becoming more efficient. So it's
Starting point is 00:05:15 just describing the same thing in different ways. Also, they would, so if they said they don't test for anabolic, so they would test for the other steroid. If they test for anabolic or steroids or any of them, they're testing for steroids. Now, obviously, tests are all different depending on where you're getting your testing done from. But yeah, that's the description of that. So you never thought about doing? No, no. I've done tests before. When I got older, I got, I got a knee injury. Yeah. And test, so test is a steroid. Same thing. Well, it's
Starting point is 00:05:46 what I've learned what is your body, your body produced testosterone. So I thought that was natural so yeah and it wasn't against the rules in the ufc at the time so uh it was it was doctors prescription so i tried testosterone no i see it makes sense so it is so it's all the same it's just like i think when people hear the word steroids they think of like a lot of this thing but testosterone is steroid it is the steroid is the thing people are describing but people have the perception of like steroids and being like a bunch of shit like a big bodybuilder would take right but you're so you're taking it for like therapy like hormone replacement there like the levels that are low enough that you're not abusing the steroids elicit like some super logical effect yeah but the funny thing is when i got tested to take um when i went to the doctor and stuff like that and they test my levels and the lady said that all your levels are so so low she said um how long have you been off steroids i said what you mean i've never done steroids she said no way you've never done steroids with with numbers this low you needed it yeah but she said that i must have done steroids because uh my my my steroids
Starting point is 00:06:51 My testosterone count was low because when you do steroids, your body stopped producing it or something, she said. And I was like, I've never done steroids. I wonder if you took, like, different supplements in the past that, like, may have. Because, like, back then there was a lot of things like pro hormones and other supplements that people were taking that weren't considered steroids because they were, like, more gray area and, like, maybe created. I wonder if you were taking other supplements. Were you ever taking other supplements? No, I wasn't really taking supplements back then. i hope my my coach don't see this right now he got me on a bunch of sterile uh sorry he got me on
Starting point is 00:07:25 a bunch of supplements that um i won't take because i take them for a week then i won't take it consistent yeah i i'd never be consistent about i i take them i take the supplements and stuff you get me i'll take it for a week or something two weeks not though i get tired of taking it's a bunch of pills that you that you got to take us like um all like vitamin b vitamin c you don't like being consistent with that no I just I just I have to do so much stuff throughout the day and I then I got to worry about taking all these damn pills and then
Starting point is 00:07:58 I fast right I do too and so then you take that shit on the empty stomach your stomach feel funny yeah depending on what kind of supplement for sure I just you got I've done it for so many years I just get used to the timing of it like when I do actually eat I'll take like the vitamin D and I'll take the supplements yeah you gotta eat with the vitamin D yeah it's good effect but it's but it's also like
Starting point is 00:08:17 really beneficial yeah like People are really actually, most people are vitamin D deficient. And vitamin D is like the number one thing that kind of keeps you not sick. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what I, what I, that worked for me is if I have, like if I'm in training camp, I normally just hire someone to have everything ready for me. Yeah. Because when I'm in training camp, I'm lazy as, all I want to do is train and play video games.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. That's like my life. Yeah, that's all I want to do. Well, that's great. So when you're not in camp, though, like. because I mean you're not you're not actively fighting right now so like how do you find that sort of structure for your day to day now what structure would what your diet eating so I was I was doing really good on my diet and I lost like 30 pounds I was like fasted and everything I started training
Starting point is 00:09:04 with my coach Sean Rez and he changed my life he taught me how to do all this fitness stuff and then my life just got busy I started doing the podcast down there the MMA podcast and then I like I've been traveling and when I travel I'm just not disciplined I just went to Japan in Vietnam and in Japan it was okay but it's like a couple foods that I missed that I I go and eat and I'm like oh I'm on vacation I'd be okay classic yeah oh my god and then I went to Vietnam and my friend out there he's he's like um he's like the president of the boxing committee and stuff right there and um he um on like the biggest gym in in Vietnam right probably the biggest gym in the world and and this guy he's so connected and he knows every
Starting point is 00:09:46 he knows all the best restaurants to eat out there he's a foodie. So that's what I'm hanging out with. So he's taking me to all these places. I'm like, man, and the food is so good. You got to do it, though. Yeah. The guy got me trying food. You know, I'm a picky eater. It got me trying stuff that I never even would eat. Yeah. And so I'm eating all this stuff. And, you know, I don't want to be rude
Starting point is 00:10:03 because it's a totally different culture out there in Vietnam. So I'm like, I'm not want to be rude. And he's hosting me and stuff. So I just ate so much. And then, at the end of the trip, I looked at myself in the mirror. I said, man, my coach won't be pissed. Yeah. Well, speaking of culture, how much how much do you think the UFC's changed, like the culture of the UFC over the last like since you were like in its
Starting point is 00:10:22 stardom and then like the the stardom now man it's it's crazy so when I first started fight I didn't I didn't think the sport would ever get this popular yeah and yeah and then we saw a couple of different phases like the first phase we saw when they when they when their first episode of Ultimate Fighter when um you saw that one when what's his name Forrest Griffin yeah and um I'm uh wait the guy to pass away I'm as bad I can't remember his name on top of my head right now oh yeah Stefan Bonner okay RIP stephen Bonner yeah when their fight was legendary like that that fight along saved the UFC because if that if it didn't work that that reality stuff didn't work the UFC was already
Starting point is 00:11:05 like a hundred and fifty million in a hole or something like that really yeah they was going to like you know pull a rug right the investors yeah so that fight saved them and so we saw a big jump from that and and and UFC become like more of a household name. So the ultimate fighter thing really paid off that show. Their ultimate, their first season, because I just remember that clip of, who was, was it you who kicked the door? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can't remember which season it was.
Starting point is 00:11:28 That was like, that was my second time. By this time, that was like season seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that, that, their show became a big success. I was the first coach that they brought back to do another season. Why? Because my first season did good numbers. Okay. On the reviews, right? Then that season with the
Starting point is 00:11:48 door broke the records. That's a meme now. Yeah, and even Conner McGregor didn't break those records. I was surprised. I thought when they had Conner McGregor on there, he was going to break those records. So I was saying then when Connor came over to the UFC, then now the UFC and Conner would become a household name. So the sport has evolved a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:06 When I first got into it, I'm like the second wave of pioneers. There was pioneers before me when there was no rules. That's right before me. There was no rules. I came in right when they changed the rules. the fight when they the i wasn't it like there was like fighting odd fights like yeah no weight classes and no rules and so my first time going to the ufc the guy who got me involved in fighting he was 17 years old he fought in the ufc i think it was the ufc 20 and that was the first fight
Starting point is 00:12:35 they had when they changed the rules because i remember he lost a fight due to elbow strikes in the back of the head which was which was illegal yeah now but they but the referee you know They allowed it then. They allowed it the show before, but this show now is illegal, so he stopped the fight, but then he made a mistake because it was an illegal blow.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And the guy that fought was complaining, like, hey, that's illegal. And you can't go back after the referee's decision, right? So he should have got an immediate rematch and everything, but it was a whole shit show. And so I wasn't even a fighter then. I had just started training and doing it. So I hadn't even had a fight yet.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And then I started fighting. And so I'm the second way. of pioneers and I came right after they changed the rules where there was rules and now no one no one knew anything about MM. It was like only the hardcore fans would recognize me and stuff until until now like I'm surprised like even teenagers I was in Japan and teenagers knew who I was crazy. Do you think like it's people who even current new kids like you're talking about teenagers finding out about the sport now and then looking back and being like oh that's Rampage Jackson? I don't know I don't I don't know how do you little assholes know
Starting point is 00:13:47 I mean, bro, I don't, I have no idea. I, bro, I don't know what they're doing. Maybe the internet is, maybe the internet, bro, I have, maybe the door, the door meme. That meme is everywhere. Yeah, maybe that, then they're looking at all, who is this guy? I have no, I have no idea because they're too, they're too young to have watched that then. Yeah, to have watched what I've been, especially me coming for fighting the pride. Maybe they went back and watched them, oh, UFC, I'm sure they didn't, they didn't watch my pride fights.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Your pride fights were crazy, though. Yeah, that was different. That's when I was in my prime, and I was doing a lot of different shit. Yeah. What's the thing that they put in every movie now that, that move that you did? Oh, yeah, that power bomb. Yo. I've seen that like 11 movies.
Starting point is 00:14:29 They got to give you credits for that, man. No, bro. Now people are doing it in the UFC and DC was like, I've never seen that before. Whoa, wait a sec. Yeah, but I don't know. Somebody said, like, oh, he said he never seen him slam him from the side. Like, I don't know. Like, oh, whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:45 You know, my thing about fighting. He's seen that before. He's seen them before, but it really don't, it don't bother. I just find it funny, but I never started fighting to be famous or to be popular. Yeah, why did you start fighting? For the money. Straight up. I told you.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I was broken. So, but there was money there in the very beginning? Mm-mm. So then what money were you after? Like a 50 bucks? Like, my first fight, I made 500 bucks. My second fight, I made 500 bucks. My third fight.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Pro fight. Yeah. My third fight. I probably made like 800 books. When did it all change? When I fought in Japan. So when I was fighting the king in the cage and my opponent pulled out and the president, he's the president of risen now. He was the vice president of pride.
Starting point is 00:15:35 He saw me. He said he liked my character. I had my camouflage pants on at the big chain. Yeah. And I walked out to the fight. They had to pull a guy out of the crowd for me. to fight because my opponent pulled out so I wasn't in the heavy way what the yeah they pulled out this big white dude from the crowd from the crowd from the crowd
Starting point is 00:15:54 he fought me in some cut off shorts holy my opponent is that anywhere on the internet I can find that it's in king the cage somewhere okay I got to find and and I did like the hoghoga and Andre the John slam when I picked them up and body slam but I walked out in my camouflage plans because I forgot my shorts you know this is like and so he liked that I walked out in camouflage he said you come to Japan you wear this you keep everything the same like I said, but this is not, just don't wear it. You wear that and blah, blah, blah. And he liked me, right?
Starting point is 00:16:20 And so, I thought I beat that guy. I think I fought like one or two more fights. And then I was supposed to fight Ken Shamrock. I don't know if you know who he is. Yeah, absolutely. I was supposed to fight him. So I started training for him, like two days after I started training for him, I get a call from the promoter, the president of Ken and Cage.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He was my friend at this time. He said, hey, you want to go to Japan and fight Sakarabraba? I was like, okay, who was Sakarabu? I didn't know who he was. Come find out. He was the biggest star in Japan. Yeah, the guy. No, he was a guy.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He was beating all the graces. Yeah. And he had just lost the Van der Leic Silver, and they needed, like, a big tough guy to fight him, but somebody that couldn't beat him, and I was still agreeing. They figured that I didn't know judici was good enough, and they figured that I'd go and put him on good shoulder,
Starting point is 00:16:59 then I eventually lose to him, which what happened was like a two weeks notice fight, and I went to jail trying to get on the airplane. I was getting on the airplane. Somebody snitched on me. For what? Well, I got in trouble in college. I wasn't supposed to leave the country.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Oh. What was supposed to do they snitch? Oh, he's on. that flight yeah so somebody's system man do you ever find out who it was I kind of found out who it was and I said something about it and he deemed me like man I wouldn't never do that I didn't do that so it's all the legend so I'm gonna go back and do my research before I say it said the name again because he was my coach he's he's he's a good guy but it's just that um it was kind of strange that you know he thought he thought
Starting point is 00:17:39 that um if I didn't make it he could fight the guy because whoever fought this guy it makes your career you know even if you lose to them and that's what saukarava yeah so that's what did to me it like i followed my put on a good fight and it made my career and so after that you started getting bags for you started getting offers from the yeah or uh no i didn't get officer of ufc i was um pride was bigger than the ufc at this time right so i was making my bag in japan i was i was even ufc wasn't on my way radar i didn't even want to go to the ufc i never wanted to go to the ufc because i liked fighting in japan i like the crowd i like being popular in japan i had my my little
Starting point is 00:18:13 taste of fame over there yeah then i came back home and no one knew who I was like you like the girls over there too I like them too yeah it was good you have you have dated a Japanese girl no but I've been to Japan I love Japan I never did a Japanese girl you never dated a Japanese girl I was thinking about this um remember last time we did the the podcast and we took a picture yeah one of my home girls saw you and she wanted me to hook you up you married no you got a girlfriend yeah that's your girlfriend right there no no no that's my assistant she hot his head I thought it was your girlfriend yeah well well I'm not You were hilarious
Starting point is 00:18:47 No, I'm just keeping it real No, no, yeah, yeah Bro, I'm a good friend She hit me up As soon as that picture What up there She was like, Who's that big white guy?
Starting point is 00:18:55 And she's like a fit Black girl, She got a big Yeah She told me to give you these Right here What's this? Jay Cox
Starting point is 00:19:02 Bro, what the fuck? Yeah, you're trolling me I'm not trolling you I'm not like you You come and troll me with the chain She told me to give you Those dick pills And then come and take out on the date
Starting point is 00:19:11 I'm just telling me She's all about you, bro One hundred You swear. I swear, her name is Eric. I show you her picture. I show you her Instagram. Your girlfriend will get mad, though.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I didn't know you had a girlfriend. Bro, this is hilarious. Yeah, she wants you. This is from Thailand. That's from Vietnam. Vietnam. Yeah. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:19:31 You ever take dick pills? No, I don't need no damn dick pills. No. Yeah. Well, you said something really funny on the last pod. You were like, you were going to be in this role, big role, and you turned it down because you don't want to be naked. Damn right.
Starting point is 00:19:44 True story. Why? I ain't trying to show my wing wang there motherfucking body. The girls can't see that till it's too late for them to change their mind. Yo, you're stupid. This is a last minute thing.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Bro, you're hilarious. They got to be dark in the room and everything. They ain't going to see that till it's too late. Put your mouth on it, babe. Just don't talk about the size. Just put your mouth on it. Yo, you're funny, bro. Oh, that's another thing I wanted to talk.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Have you ever considered, like, doing comedy? I feel like you've been trying to I've been telling people that I'm a comedian pretending to be a fighter. I feel like that's my audience and that's why I get my standoff on when I
Starting point is 00:20:28 when I, you know, address the MMA fans because I feel like I feel like they know me but I just don't feel like I have the balls to stand up on stage and just to sit there and tell jokes that's hard, man. It's hard. I've written like a stand-up year
Starting point is 00:20:44 years ago. It's probably on one of my old phones that I never recovered. Like, I go to times where I can't sleep. And I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to, I'm just going to write this stand up. And I wrote it on my phone, but it, and I thought it was pretty. I sent it to one of my friends. Maybe he might have, I said, I got this one friend's name, Popeye. Popeye. That's his real name. That's his real name or is a nickname? No, no, it's real name. What the fuck? You know. Okay. So they're different. I've heard, I've heard Mexican call him Papaya, but he tells us his name is Popeye, you you know yeah and so he uh is he a comedian no he's not a comedian but he likes our coming and
Starting point is 00:21:19 stuff but he's like one of my friends that that i truly trust his uh his judgment because he'll tell me like yes or no yeah he'll be straight up like he because because i'm i don't care of people i don't care if you're some people they get mad if you tell them the truth if something sucks oh yeah yeah i'm not like that i don't get some sucks just tell me yeah and so he knows me so he's like he'll tell me like yeah that's like yeah that's good so those kind of people you need around I can't have fucking yes. Especially if you're going to go do something that, you know, you don't want to show people like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of people have to me. Yes, man. But he'll tell me, he was like, cute. That was pretty good. You should do that. And so he's like the marketing director of Dave and Busters, right? So he said, won't you just come do it here at Dave and Bus and just invite your friends and
Starting point is 00:22:02 film it and just do it here at one in the comforts rooms in Dave and Busters. We'll set it up and keep it proud. I'm like, well, I don't know. I'm still a little bit too scared to do my stand-up, even in front of my friends and shit. So you, yeah, so maybe, maybe it's not for you then. Maybe it's not, maybe it's not for me. Or maybe it's got to get over it.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I don't know. And plus I heard it takes years for comedians to make money out there, you know. Well, I think to, to become a known comedian probably. I mean, people already know you for other things. Like, they would know right away that you did comedy. Now, if it's good or not, it's going to be a whole other thing, but for sure, they're going to know you right away. You think I can make a bag?
Starting point is 00:22:37 I mean, if it was funny. Otherwise, otherwise, they're just, people are just going to make fun of you. Right. See, that's my fear. Like, say I get a heckler in the crowd, right? Yeah. I don't trust myself, right? You don't have to.
Starting point is 00:22:50 You get a power ball. Yeah, I get sued. Bro, but that's a lot. That alone is funny as funny. It'd be hilarious by I be in jail because I jump out in the crowd. Like, what the fuck you say? Because this is my problem. My problem with the internet is not that people say shit, right?
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah. But it's the shit they say in the security of their own home. Oh, yeah. Shit that they won't say to your face. Oh, yeah. So, thing. about if I'm in a crowd and I'm trying to tell a joke and you got this drunk motherfucker saying something and I just don't trust myself because I remember one
Starting point is 00:23:18 time in college this is what I learned this about by myself one time in college one of the wrestlers got in the big bra with the basketball players yeah and and the wrestlers we all mixed race and the most of basketball players are all black yeah and I heard the story what happened and one of the wrestlers was in the wrong and and and I'm all about right and wrong and it was a big braw happen and I just stayed out of it. I was like, you know, the rest was wrong. So I didn't get nobody back. I just stayed out of it and stuff like that. And then we was all meeting in the dorm and one the rest of said, yeah, Rampage probably was going to be on their side because he's black.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And I took that very disrespectful because I don't have a racist bone in my body. Yeah. And, and I just thought of my, I thought, and I said out of loud, said, boy, who are you talking to? Don't you know how smack? And I was saying, don't you know I would do it? And as I said, I smacked out of them. And I was like, man, I need to control myself. You didn't just say it. You were doing it? Yeah, I said it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Like, don't you know how I smacked? And if I can't even get the shit out, I just smack the shit at them. And I learned something about myself that day. Like, I got to really, like, learn how I control myself and I can't really trust myself in certain situations when people say to me, you know what saying? Yeah. And that's why I'm always laughing.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I'm always joking around and keeping myself happy and something like that. You kind of just snap? I feel like I feel like I can normally normally I only snap from like somebody being very rude to me or my friends or somebody being violent to me. Yeah, but what about what about when you fought? Because from what I understood from I'm talking to
Starting point is 00:24:53 When I, I don't get violent when I... Yeah, you're already violent. I mean, you're violent in the fight, but you're not like snapping. No, you said, you said... No, no, no. You said when I fought. You said when you fought. Do you get violent when you...
Starting point is 00:25:05 No. Okay, I don't know. Anyways. Why are you laughing back there? Why did she laugh? I don't know. Okay. So, okay, I mean, so when you fought, obviously, because I've talked to a lot of fighters,
Starting point is 00:25:17 they're not, it's not like reactive because you have to be kind of like, kind of in it and not overreacting. Because, like, that's a reaction that you had to that guy, like, in a moment. Yeah. But as a fighter, you know you're going to fight. You didn't fight your fights like, like snapping. Like, are you in there and are you, I guess at one point in a fight, are you just like, all right, now I'm just going to go, I'm going to go off.
Starting point is 00:25:37 was it just always calm i always been calm but i have lost my temper in one fight that's the one you talked about early when i power bomb that guy that's the only time i ever lost my temper in a fight i've always been scared to lose my timbre in the fight because uh i feel like um i couldn't control my cardio because i i'll just go like i'd be too aggressive and i and i'm scared that i like yeah yeah gas so i always i always try to to um calm myself but i lose my temper a lot in sparring And that's why I'm scared to lose my temper in fighting because that's what happened in sparring. Like people piss me off and then I lose my temper.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But most time in training camp, when I'm losing my temper, I'd be in the beginning of camp and I wouldn't be in shape enough yet, right? Yeah. And that's my fear. But only one time I lost my temper in the fight and I've never lost my temper again. So because you knew that because of the sparring,
Starting point is 00:26:31 the way it was when you lose your temper, you gas out. So you're like, I don't want to do this in a fight. Yeah, because you just go balls to the wall. And when I lose my temper, I hate to say this, but it's like a, it's like a little piece of the back of my mind that I'm trying to hurt the guy. Yeah. Because, you know, when you're sparring people, especially people you don't know, you get a bunch of alphas in the room and somebody want to prove themselves. Egos like this. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:26:53 They were like, oh, I want to knock out rampage. Yeah. They get that. And it's like we're sparring. Why are we sparring? They want to knock me out. And I don't know this morning. So if I feel like they're trying to, like, hurt me and knock me out, I'll lose my temper.
Starting point is 00:27:04 and most of the time I end up hurting them or my fist. Yeah. That's such an interesting thing, a sparring thing, because unless you're like a trained fighter, you kind of, the levels of it, it's like you're like, because how do you know, because you were a trained fighter and you're sparring, but you know the guy just hit you a little too hard? You're like, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You can tell. You can tell when, when, like, especially you don't know this guy, you can tell when they're trying too hard. You know, because it's like different sparring where you're like just working, you're just going through the motion, She's just working, just giving the guy a different look. And me, I pay my sparring partners. So I think it's stupid for them to try to knock me out or try to hurt me.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I think it's stupid because you're getting paid. So why are you going to mess up your bag? And I pay my sparring partner as well because I've been told I have a heavy hand. I hit too hard. So it's hard for me to get sparring partners. So I just pay them. Like a lot of sparring, a lot of people in MMA don't get paid for sparring. They just do it for what?
Starting point is 00:27:58 I guess they do it for experience or it's like a brotherhood. Like when you train with a group of people, like you, guys uh you turn to like brothers because you you're you're hurting yourself to help this guy you know win a fight yeah like i'm sparring like say i'm sparring my brother check kongo you know he's never he's never he's never had to pay me to help him train but uh i i've paid him in the beginning that's how i met him i i saw him at a fight i'm like man this guy's a monster yeah had to fight chuck ladell so i so i didn't know him yet so i paid for him to come from france to come a spar with me and then we become brothers,
Starting point is 00:28:34 then he wouldn't take money for me no more. I see. But that's how that's how that start off. So I'm, when I spar him, it hurts. He kicks really hard. He knees really hard. He's a really good fighter. So when I spar him,
Starting point is 00:28:47 help him for his fight, it's kicking my ass. Yeah, but it's probably good for you too. Yeah, yeah, it's good for me to get my ass kick. Speaking of that, I don't know if you've ever seen this like sort of beef between Connor and one of his old training partners as far as like,
Starting point is 00:28:59 this guy, I think his name's Armand had like a claim to some sort of equity and proper 12 because he trained into all this training camps with Connor and I guess Connor had wasn't paying him and was like kind of making him think that he was going to get some sort of equity in this this company I don't know if you've seen any of that stuff um but I guess I don't know I was going to ask like have you ever been in any situations like business wise where you felt like you've been taking advantage of throughout so several so several times so yeah what was the worst one and in like business oh my Reebok deal yeah I'm the one that brought Reebok to UFC and like because you knew
Starting point is 00:29:39 someone at Reebok yeah they was working with me and they was going to sponsor me and Dana White was like you can't be sponsored by Reebok we don't have a we don't we don't have a what do you say we don't have a contract no no no we don't have a relationship with Reebok I was like you don't got to have you don't got a relationship with my other sponsors like what the I'm the one brought Reebok there. I brought Boots Mobile to the UFC and they took Boose Mobile from me but Boots Mobile still sponsored me when when they went to the UFC as well but they was like no we don't have a relationship with Reebok you can't I said but look I'm an independent contractor you don't have relationship with with half my sponsors like and this and this was before
Starting point is 00:30:19 they had the uniforms yeah and so Reebok saw that they was getting a lot more attention just by the stuff that Dana was saying and them not being able to be on my shorts and they loved that so so they started talking to each other and I didn't get I didn't get the sponsorship I had already done commercials for them when when they told me it was like a photo shoot but it was turning to be a commercial oh they paid me for a photo shoot but they shot a commercial commercial price I would have got paid a different price so then they went to the UFC did you know that because of high insider did you know that at the time because I know you started doing movie stuff too
Starting point is 00:31:03 I think I was already doing movies by this time so you knew that the commercial price would have been different in the contract yeah it was but they they the whole time I got there they said it was a photo shoot but I just had to do you know they they wanted live action shots and stuff but they was filming it and they made it a commercial with another football player I can't pronounce his name I can't remember his name but he was a very famous football player but if I can remember he had like an African name that I can't remember and um you play football i did play football yeah you probably know but i don't i don't remember so that was like that was probably like the most that was probably like the most shadiest thing that
Starting point is 00:31:39 happened to me in business recently and then the whole ufc would come all rebuck and that was and that was the reason why i left the ufc at that time i left the ufc and then i lost my last fight in the ufc and and they didn't interview me and and they told the mma were that that that was my last fight and that i retired but i went to bell at that how many fights you do a bellator i can't I remember, I was in Beltoe for years, but I did a lot of fights in Beltoe. Yeah. So do you, how's your relationship with Dana in the UFC now? If I'm going to be honest, I have nothing against Dana because I know that, um, it's just
Starting point is 00:32:13 business with him. Yeah. It's nothing personal. And Dana has done a lot for, um, the sport that I love. And my manager, Tiki and him, they're good friends and stuff like that. And, um, yeah. You know, if you, if you, if you get to know Dana and you on his good side, he's actually a good guy yeah but he's just like a it's a businessman he's standing on business yeah and it's
Starting point is 00:32:34 i love dana yeah it's not it's not it's not it's not the person i don't i don't i don't hate dana but i i wouldn't want to do business with dana you wish that happened differently probably then yeah i wish it happened differently because even that whole thing when they're doing with the uniforms i remember my old manager at the time if he was from england he was shaded too he ended up ripping me off on a whole bunch it was his idea he took that idea to dana about them doing like um all a uniform sponsor for the whole thing for the whole thing and he wanted his company to wherever get a cut of it to to you know to start doing your managed so you're a manager at the time was part of that he well he it was his idea the whole thing the UFC did with the
Starting point is 00:33:13 uniforms and so your manager kind of he he f***er everything up and uh but dana them out they just ran with his idea and then and then he never got paid anything from money they just said oh that's a good idea and get out of my office That's pretty funny, though. Yeah, f*** diving. So, oh, man, that's good. So as far as your fights go, just as a whole, what was your hardest fight? I love asking this question.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Oh, God. I had a lot of hard fights. My hardest, my hardest fight was, this is like a toss-up between John Jones and Dan Henderson. Dan Henderson was pretty tough, but I had to say John Jones because he actually kicked my ass. Yeah, I mean, he's Like, who's beating that guy, really? No one, no one beat. He got lost on his record,
Starting point is 00:34:05 but that's from him doing, like, illegal strike. Yeah. No one's beating that guy no time soon. Yeah, and I think he's kind of starting to talk about retiring, though. Yeah. And everyone's getting, like,
Starting point is 00:34:17 specifically, like, recently the last couple days on the internet because there's, who's the guy that they're talking about him fighting or wants to fight him? It's a, what's his name? It's stupid. It's not Francis, though, huh? No, it's not,
Starting point is 00:34:29 Francis. It's a, it's one of the up-and-coming, it's a Russian guy. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I know. Pavlovich, I don't know. Popovitch. I don't know. It's a Russian guy. And they're saying like he's like retiring and like avoiding this fight. But I think he's just like, I mean, he's what, 36, 38? I think he's also realizing like he doesn't want to be a UFC fighter that like just goes out and starts getting smacked by other UFC fighters on his way out. Yeah, it would be smart to retire like undefeated. Yeah. You know, that's, That's every fighter's dream, so you can, but I don't, I don't see him ducking anybody from what I know about Jones, but once you, once you go that long,
Starting point is 00:35:09 would it would have been undefeated, you know, every time you fight, it's like in the back of your mind, like, oh, am I going to, am I going to stay undefeated? You know, it's a lot of stress. Why do you think he kicked your ass when you say, obviously he won, but why did it? Well, he kicked my ass with, like, a really tough training camp because I never fought somebody that long and John Jones he is he is one the best fight in the world but he's also one of the dirtiest fighters in world and he don't have to be that dirty like he if you're doing good he'll poke you in your eye then he'll kick your knee
Starting point is 00:35:41 backwards you know that the oblique kick is legal I think it should be illegal yeah but you know that wasn't even the big problem the big problem was him like poking me in the eye keeping his fingers in my eye keeping me at bay because your eyes are your your weakest part of your Yeah. Yeah. So if somebody smart, they attack your eyes, you know, it's going to be a downhill. So they weren't calling that then?
Starting point is 00:36:05 No. They was letting them do it. And if you go back and watch the fight, I'm, I'm smacking the finger and I'm looking at the ref. I don't even know why I do that. I normally don't even do that. I stay focused. But it was just so blatant.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I'm trying to smack his finger. And I'm looking at ref. I'm like, that's not right in my eyes. Like that's not right. And the reference, like, yeah. That's John Jones, my, right. Like, that had to suck. Like, in the moment, you're like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Yeah, like, the ref. What you want me to say? We want you to lose anyway, nigga, get the . They didn't go. That's so funny. But I've learned years later that John Jones poking so many people in the eyes, they designed a glove. They invented a new gloves.
Starting point is 00:36:42 So you're like that. Yeah, yeah. I should call it the John Jones glove. Oh, you'll see John Jones glove. Bro, I was thinking about walking out to that fight with swim golfers on. Yeah, I was thinking about doing it. I don't know why I didn't do it. But the thing is, I think.
Starting point is 00:36:58 trained for it and in and oh so you anticipated that yeah because i had i had um people doing that and and they actually poked me an eye and then john jones i know he saw in the stern down i had like a red mark in my eye from i already getting poked in the eye so i trained for that i trained for the oblique kicks that red mark probably just made him want to hit you more yeah he was like that's a target for his ass you want to poke more i trained for oblique kicks yeah but what i didn't have is a tall guy to do jitzu with i had a big tall guy from england to spar with and stuff like that And the sparring was going great. I was doing good against all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:29 But John Jones actually ended up real neck and choking me. And I just wasn't ready for the long arms and stuff like that. So you got to, MMA is just so many things that you got to prepare for. Yeah. Well, it's such, it's just, it's the ultimate fighting. I mean, it's like boxing, obviously everyone, boxing has been around forever. What do you think about that as far as the sport itself? I think, do you think that it's going to overtake boxing in like five years?
Starting point is 00:37:54 What? I think the sport are ready to. Overtook boxing. But the money's so different. No, no, no, no. You're confused. A lot of people confused. So this is what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:04 The top 1% MMA fighter and the top 1% boxer like the Floyd May was, the Manny Pachios, the whoever, whoever, the, um, the Tyson Fury. And then those top 1% they make more money than the top 1% um, uh, MMA fighter. Okay, but I see what you're going with this. But like the step down from that down, the UFC fighters make more money than the boxes and think and then then then add this to the equation. If a boxer is making $3 million to fight and they fight once or twice a year, that's three million a year or six million year and oh shit and an MMA fighter is making but they're fighting a lot. Yeah, they fight they're making like two million dollars to fight.
Starting point is 00:38:56 three million dollar fight but they can fight they can fight for it depending on how old they're when i was young i was fighting six times a year so even though you might be doing more fights but mma fighters on a whole really do make more money than boxers but just not the just not the top one percent the top one percent they're making they're making the most money i see interesting yeah they want jake paul talking all that about fighter pay well yeah because because and he's he started rocking your chain too man yeah what's up with that i don't know he did he did he He definitely got that from you. And I saw an interview when he tried to play it down like he didn't know who I was.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Like, no. Yeah. There's no way. That's what he said. He said, oh, who's Rampage's Jackson? He was like, well, he wore a chain, you just to do that. I'm like, yeah, okay, okay. If you watched M&M in the last 20 years, you know that Rampage Jackson house and wear a chain.
Starting point is 00:39:49 He knows he knows he wore a chain, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. stuff, you can look at shit and you can tell, like, oh, that that's a bad actor, even in interviews and stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah. You did, I was looking before you came here. You did a bunch of, like, random things. Obviously, the A team was probably the biggest one. That's the biggest thing I did. Everything else, I did two big moves, A team, and don't laugh when I tell you the name, with this movie, it's called Midnight Meat Train. I was going to bring that up.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Why? Why you that? I thought we was beginning to be broke. Listen, I thought we got along on Brendan Schwarz. I love, you're awesome. You're a great speaker. But why are you laughing? Because Midnight Meetrain?
Starting point is 00:40:32 I didn't name the movie. And who might have turned down a role because of the movie name? Well, you turned down the role because you don't want to show your dick. Yeah, I turned down that, but I ain't going to turn down a Midnight Meetrain. You would never turn that down, huh? Not the name of a movie. I ain't showing my meat in that meat train. You just couldn't turn down a midnight meat train.
Starting point is 00:40:50 But that, but doing that movie, though, was kind of degrading, like the worst thing in my life happened to me in that. in that movie you know dude why did he name it that what japanese guy and I asked him I asked him I said I said um what's your name is movie was it like a meat on the train
Starting point is 00:41:08 I'm gonna try I'm gonna say it was this killer that was killing people from the train from the subway and then he would take their bodies and hang him I guess he was eating them like a meat locker yeah I'd never even seen the whole damn movie I don't like to watch movies if I don't go to the red carpet
Starting point is 00:41:24 I don't see it I don't like to watch anything that I made. Yeah, I don't like that shit. Anything. But when I did that movie, they was supposed to hang my body from one of those meat hooks, right? So they had to plaster my, my whole body to make a, like a fake thing in my body. Got it. And the guys that was doing, they asked me to wear a thong. They try to give me a thong. So, because you had to be naked with just a thong. I said, I said, no, no. I'm saying, I'm going to my grave saying I'm never wearing a fucking thonging. And you, I don't get a fuck. How much y'all pay me? I ain't wearing no
Starting point is 00:41:54 motherfuckin the guy was like, bro, we got to plaster your whole body, your butt cheeks, every goddamn thing. You're going to want to wear this thong. We've done this thousand times. I said, I ain't wear no thong. I would do a jockstrap. He said, jockstrap, you sure? I'm like, yeah, I'm an athlete. I wear jockstrap. That's fine. I ain't wearing no thong. So they said, all right, it's your choice. So they did it. And they almost got to fight with one of the guy because when he was plastered, he had to plastered my butt, he smacked my ass. And I don't even know these I was right. I'm there butt ass naked with a jockstrap.
Starting point is 00:42:25 My cheeks all out. Just my junk covered up. Did he just smacking insane? Yeah, there's two guys back there. He just smacked. He made a joke. Because you know I joke around all the times. I guess they thought that, you know, that was cool.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And I'm gonna, I couldn't move. I said, as soon as I got this shit, and one of y'all getting y'all, they got scared. They went and told. Actually scared. Yeah, yeah, I was just going to kick some of my ass. I'm a grown ass, man.
Starting point is 00:42:45 You don't smack me on my motherfuck ass. Why I'm f*** cheeks out. Yeah, that's crazy. And then after after the all shit dried. dried up and so they took it out and I had the jock strap and then the plastic it gets everything and they pulled it out and it had a print of my asshole and I'm like damn I should have wore a thong you know that's crazy how it was full circle but I'm glad I didn't wear a thong but then so I got two things now the thong thing so you when you were on Brennan's show you were talking about how
Starting point is 00:43:17 you got robbed at thong point and Brandon thought you were wearing a thong and you were yeah he thought you were How did he go there? I don't know. I don't know. He'd be hating. But you basically mean you were, you got super drunk in Vegas and a, in like a stripper or something bobbed you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And she took how much money from you or value of- Value worth jury and clothes and shit? Close to almost $200,000 worth of jury. You never got that back? I don't think I'm ever getting back. So what happened? You were just like, you drank too much? I drank too much.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I was having fun visiting my friends in Vegas. I don't see often. enjoying myself and I just got I just got white girl wasted damn just I was I was but no I'm like I can handle my and I'm not I'm not belligerent now I can handle my but if I drink too much worst thing to happen is I pass up yeah so that's what happened and she just do you think she knew that that was going to happen I feel like she could probably tell because she probably she could probably she could probably tell how drunk I was that because um he was supposed to pay her $500 an hour for stripping for like twirking yeah and I was trying to try to
Starting point is 00:44:22 trying to pay her to get her out of there she's like no no and i figured like oh she's she's doing one of those things that happened in the strip club where you do two minutes you know you go and do a dance and they do like 10 songs and as you know you own 40 million dollars you know yeah yeah i thought she was doing one those things like no no no and then she just kept going you know we was having fun and um you have another drink yeah i think and she saw me i had my jury and stuff on and when she came up to the room i didn't have it on and i didn't i guess she probably checked the safe see if i put in the safe i didn't put in the safe i had one of those lines luggage that you can lock the luggage up and I just put all my in my I got I had a I had a Jackson
Starting point is 00:44:57 bag like this my favorite one it was gray it was like man it was dope and I had put everything in there and I put it and I had some I had some bunch of wands in there from the last time I went to the strip club had a bunch of stripper ones that's what I was going to give her she took the whole thing she took the whole luggage all right guys this podcast is sponsored by better help I've talked about this plenty of times I'm going to talk about it again because it's never not important okay if you guys are looking for some help in your life if you're looking for a different perspective different point of view on something that you're dealing with, something that you're going through. We're just looking to get some sort of like, not answer necessarily, but definitely
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Starting point is 00:46:08 to get 10% off your first month. Let's get back into this podcast. Bro, what the whole look? I mean, I guess it makes sense. I had an air tag if I was on my right mind. But I had to catch a flight. I could have followed her. But like I said, I don't trust myself, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're going to do some. So I was like, what's, what's it worth? Like, it's worth going to prison because think about, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to say nothing here on era, but you don't know what you're going to do in that situation.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Yeah, because you feel taking advantage. And I'm not a materialistic person. I would like to get myself back because some of it had like, you know what I'm saying? Sentimental value. Yeah. Because like the bracelet I had, it got stolen once before and it came back to me on a crazy story. So I put my initials on it. And the chain, you know, I'm, I'm.
Starting point is 00:46:52 is custom made like and one of those um braces one of the guys i did a movie with in Thailand he was like becoming like a brother he gave me like a cool bracelet that it's like a wolf because you know I'm a weird and he put you're a werewolf yeah and he put the what you mean it was casual was a casual yeah what you mean you're aware of what you're what are you talking about bro what are you talking about I'm a look so he gave me what does that mean hold on no no no we can't just go on to that what do you mean. So you turn into a a werewolf.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Ever since I've seen the movie Teen Wolf as a kid I've been a weird that works that's how it works bro listen
Starting point is 00:47:32 I'm that you're like a 12 year old yeah how are you going to judge me now now people can change their sex
Starting point is 00:47:39 and you identify as a werewolf fuck it dude can't say you can't say about it or I sue you for discrimination
Starting point is 00:47:47 muck I'm a fucking word wolf bro Why is, dude, the world's crazy. The world's crazy. So you got to accept me for being a whirlwood. Damn.
Starting point is 00:47:56 If I got to call a woman, a man, and a man a woman, they got to accept that I'm a world wolf. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm a war wolf. Speaking of conspiracy theories, the thong thing reminded me of this, too. Did you see the interview with Shannon Sharp and Kat Williams? Did you watch that interview yet?
Starting point is 00:48:12 I saw clips. I didn't watch the whole damn interview. My brother wanted me to watch it, but I don't got two hours like that. Yeah. I mean, it's got like, 40 million views in like a few days or some crazy shit. The whole world's seen this apparently. So did you see the bit where they were talking
Starting point is 00:48:28 about Kevin Hart and like in the actors, predominantly black actors in this sense, like wearing dresses in like some sort of write-up passage. It's like they have to do this. Cat Williams basically saying that he didn't want to do it, he didn't do it. And then Kevin Hart started taking the roles where he wasn't doing it. He just made me think about it because they tried to put you in a thong. But like, do you think? They were just trying to put me in a thong just to save my asshole.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I'm trolling, but in that sense, do you, like, and you did Hollywood a little bit, obviously, some movies. Did you ever run into anything weird where you were like, what the... No, I didn't make it nowhere near that. Like I said, I only did two big movies. The rest's been, like, B&D movies. Yeah, but do you think that's a thing?
Starting point is 00:49:06 I actually have no idea, but I've seen, like, white actors and dresses as well. So I don't think it's a race thing. Yeah. I just think it's like, I just think it's like certain people with like the powers that be like hey you want to be one of us you got to humiliate yourself a little bit why why would there need to be like a humiliation thing i i have no idea i don't i don't i don't know much about that i just know that i would never make it if that's the way you got to do
Starting point is 00:49:36 you got to wear a dress because my my father he's the type of guy if i if i wore a dress i'd never heard of the end of it and even though he old as fuck he still tried to beat my Well, where, because I remember one time my little brother was sleep and my sister painted his toenails and my, and my brother had no idea his toenails and my dad beat his, that's the type dad I got. And back in the day, you can say the F word back in the day, you know. Yeah, and my dad's saying that. He was saying like, ain't no son of mine going to be no.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know that I can't, I don't give a, the type of movie. But you know what, you know what, though, the real talk, I'm going to keep, I like to keep it 100 I'm an open book back when another professor came out yeah I really like um I'm a big fan of Edomers I really like those characters that he did and he was all the big family and yeah my favorite character was the old lady the old woman yeah it was the it was the old woman and he dressed up like an old woman and he uh he was funn his he put on the makeup and he if you're going to wear a dress you do it like that you dress up like an old woman and you put the makeup on
Starting point is 00:50:46 face so you don't look like a man in a mom yeah a woman dress and you be an old lady and it's not sexualized to me right so the way edith murphy did it i don't see i don't see nothing wrong with the way he did when he was that old lady you know what i'm talking about absolutely come on calidus yeah like the line in the yeah you you walk over but you go limp back bro i died laughing at the old lady she had like the the the teeth falling out like the gun know her dead just bro this is funny and like anybody else dressed up like even even like when Tyler Perry did it because, you know, before he got famous, my mom used to watch his plays in the South. That's how he got famous off the people in the South. He used to have these
Starting point is 00:51:25 plays. Yeah, Medea. You go, yeah, Medea, you go buy them on DVDs. So I never really watched them because I don't like plays, but I remember walking past the living room and whatever. My mom, she used to watch Tyler Perry. She loved him. And I didn't think nothing of it. A man dressed up like an old lady in a dress. It's funny. I just thought it was fun. Yeah. But, and like, even like Jamie Fox, what he do, Shannay and all that stuff. I didn't, I didn't see none of them. But the way he kept Williams talk about it, when they, just like a woman, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:55 And he kind of said, like, stuff that we don't know. We don't know about the Hollywood stuff. They all in the Hollywood stuff. Even though I've done, like, a few movies, I don't know much about, all this stuff I've seen in Hollywood has all been real positive. I think it's like, I think it's like MMA, like where it's close. Everybody knows each other.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It's like a, you know, so. I don't know. Everything I've learned about Hollywood has been positive. Positive. I've just been on, like, on the tiptoe and on the outside. Yeah, I see. What do you think about all this, Epstein? What's your take on that?
Starting point is 00:52:27 Man, that's some crazy. Yeah. That's a crazy. And, you know, you know, kids, man, come on. It's terrible. I got a bunch of kids, you know, I love kids. Kids are our future. And what you got to think about that is if you have kids,
Starting point is 00:52:40 you want to put yourself as a parent. Like if one of those kids was yours. Yeah. And you look at it from that standpoint. And then you're like, man, all of them are, you know, if they've done anything wrong to kids, they should go to jail. I don't get who it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And that's honest. If, you know, if anybody do anything inappropriate to a kid, you should, you should go to jail instead of, like, parents, like, discipline their kids, and then you can go jail for that. Yeah. Get a kid to spanking, you go to jail, you know, you're getting trouble for that. Yeah. And, but all these are doing, like, evil shit, and we don't hear about that.
Starting point is 00:53:13 them go in jail like that. And if they do, they're protected in prison. So that's not right. I'm, you know what I'm saying? I'm a son of the most high. And so I like to do what's right. I'm not a perfect human being by any chance. But, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:27 I f***ed up just like everybody else. But, you know, I don't do. There's certain lines where it's like to want. I don't do I'm so care. I'm like, how like do you, I was talking to my buddies about it? It's like, do people just get to a point where they're so rich that they're like, I'm going to fuck with kids? Like what?
Starting point is 00:53:41 Like, where does that even? How does it even happen? Yeah, I know. You got to think about the psychology of it. Like, why, why even are people attracted to kids? Like, you know what, I thought about this. Again, I'm going on hunting. I thought about this.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Because some, think about it. Some people started having sex when I young. I started having sex when I was young. Like what age? I don't want to say how old I was. Oh, okay. It was really young. Fair.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I was really young when I started having sex. So I was a kid having sex. and I wasn't having sex with adults as a kid until I turned 14 then I was having sex with grown women that thought I was 18. Yeah. And I was thinking like,
Starting point is 00:54:22 what if some of these people was like me? Well, if they was having sex when they was kids with other kids and they still remember that. Is that what a part of it? So, but then I'm thinking, right now, I like having sex with grown women even though I had sex with kids. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:36 When you were a kid, when you were a kid. Yeah. Even when I was a kid, I preferred, I didn't prefer kids my age. And girls my age, I prefer women. I had a crush on my teachers. They didn't know that I was, you know, they didn't know that I was already, like, sexually active.
Starting point is 00:54:51 They had no idea. If I had sexually sexy teachers, I would have crushers on them. Yeah. I feel like that's normal. But in elementary, yeah, you have a crush on them, but you didn't, elementary school, you wasn't trying to smash. I was trying to smash. I'm like, wait, hold on, I'm trying to picture you in elementary, like,
Starting point is 00:55:08 what was your wrist, though? Like, were you like, oh, stay after class? Yeah, I do whatever. I had this one teacher. She failed me, too, Ms. Cozell. Bro, I had a, she used to come rub me on my back. Oh, my God. She didn't even know I was growing in there and I went wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:25 And I would do it. I would do whatever it took to get her to rub my back. What was wrong? I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was not perverting no more because I went through that stage. I was, I was, I was, the good thing about it by time I got to high school, all the, all the, all the, uh, you know, boys my age, they was already pussy crazy. They was just not starting to lose every
Starting point is 00:55:42 and stuff like that I was I was already past that phase so now so now I'm I'm an adult I'm 45 years old now I have to be like attracted to a woman to even you know saying take it there like I don't just like I don't just go and smash anything I went through that stage I went through that stage in elementary yeah I see it's interesting so funny but yeah it's just it's weird like I just think of the whole concept and I'm just like bro it's because it's even a thing bro it's it's it's a big thing and it's it's bigger than what we now just coming at this thing going on for for a long time but but you know like I said times it's different I remember my my I hear my grandfather was 30 years older than my
Starting point is 00:56:22 grandmother so you know so you got thinking about in our grandparents a day and age it's more acceptable it's more acceptable you know back then you married like a little young 16 year old girl when you already in your 20s you know and now it's frown upon you can't do it in certain States unless it's you know maybe sign off but you know what I went to I went to England one time I was having dinner with one of my old coaches and um and this this beautiful girl came up to the table with I think our older man like her uncle or somebody and um he he asked for a picture and I looked at the girl like damn you hot as and she said yeah I'm a wrestler too I wrestled I rap an Olympic level I said y'all you ought to do
Starting point is 00:57:04 MMA and um and I said damn but you're hot as hair I think you'll do good like you hot and you look good and you can, I had to try to fight, you know, I was trying to rears a little bit too. Yeah. And then it got to the problem. She said, oh, but I'm 16. I'm like, oh, damn, you're on 16. What the fuck? No, she looked like she was in her 20s.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I get it. But she was very beautiful. Yeah. And then when she told me she was 16, I was like, oh, okay. But I said, well, you still should, you still should train. I tried to point it to my coach. He got a gym here in England. You should train there.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And, you know, I got plugs. I can, you know, get you fights and stuff like that. If you can wrestle, like, you may need more beautiful girls. I know how to market. and then and then my coach was like uh no no no she should go so he didn't for some reason he didn't want to train his gym and uh and then and then but i had already gave her my instagram before i found out she was 16 and she and she and she and she DM me and she started talking like sexual out like no no no no no i can't i know you're brief of girl but i can't do that
Starting point is 00:58:00 you 16 when she was like oh but that's legal here in england i'm like what well yeah different countries different places so different countries but you know i'm when i'm from like i got a daughter My daughter was just turned 17. Yeah. I said, no, no. I can't, even though it's legal to go to another country and do, I still think with today's society, it's wrong for, you know, saying a grown person to, you know, hook up with somebody young.
Starting point is 00:58:25 My lowest age is like 21, but if I see a hot-18-year-old, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, no, I get you. I get you. It's interesting because obviously 18, they can do all the other shit, you know. Yeah, 18, they grow. 18 18 they grown and not in our society like that they grown but yeah but they their minds aren't right right that's the thing yeah it's it's hard for me to even get a 21-year-old you know
Starting point is 00:58:51 they don't they don't they don't typically like guys in their 40s you know 21-year-old you feel like you find them out here they're definitely looking for guys in their 40s with money oh yeah probably probably the sugar babies yeah i don't think i'm old enough to be a sugar daddy i mean yeah you are because you don't have to be a father you're a father you have kids Man, my dick still good. Yeah, but what age is the... They should pay me. They should pay you.
Starting point is 00:59:15 At what age is the sugar daddy? I think the sugar daddy is probably starting like the late 50s. That's when late 50s. Late 50s is when you kind of like out of shape and you don't got nothing but money. Yeah, I see. You know what I'm saying? Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Because you, how old are you? 34. Oh, God damn. You got plenty years for you. Yeah. And you keep looking in good shape like that. You got the girl's thorn them. Like my home girl.
Starting point is 00:59:37 So one picture you just Throwing yourself and told me to give you those I can't believe this like this J-cock J-cock what the fuck is this The phrase a name for some dick pills Yeah I mean it makes sense though Yeah cock I guess
Starting point is 00:59:49 Well I heard they work really good I wouldn't know oh you heard they were good That's what I was told I don't know that fit So when'd you try them What'd you mean? When you try them I haven't looked at their peck and it's still
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah well obviously it's like a one off You probably have a few of one off You probably tried it Why would I try out of ten? Huh? 10 out of 10? What would I try something called J. Cop? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Why would I try that? Just because, like, why would you know? I'm 45. My wang still works good. Yeah, but like, why not? It's like, why not make it work better? But what my friend says is his... Well, your friend said it.
Starting point is 01:00:19 My friend said it. My friend said it. My friend said it. Even though his wang still works good, he likes to do it on the first time to impress the woman. Oh, your friend said that. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:00:28 I'm not going to tell you his name. Oh, what's the letter? What's the first letter of his name? His name is Chris. Okay. All right. So maybe you're not lying. I'm not lying.
Starting point is 01:00:34 He told me that... His name's not rampage. No, no, no, no. His name's not rampage. He told me the first impression lasts forever. Damn. So think about this. You know when you have sex with a woman,
Starting point is 01:00:45 all the pressures on us. You know this. Of course. Yeah, there's not that much pressure on him. All they got to do is smell good, be tight enough. Enough. We're not too, Judge. And kind of move back a little bit.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Just don't lay there. You know what I'm saying? Don't be a fish. Yeah, yeah, don't be a fish. We got to last long, be the right size, know what we do. doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:05 You think guys got more pressure? Yeah. And when it comes to sex guys, we have way more pressure than a woman. Yeah. Because you got to keep it up too. Yeah, you got to keep it up. And so, you know, like with us is things like mental. Say you really like this girl.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I'm going to paint this picture. You really like this girl. And you finally get a chance to go on a date with her, but you stressed at work. Yeah, your day. You didn't get enough water. You didn't get enough water. You stressed it. You didn't sleep too much.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah. And you got a lot of business, something going on. And then you're kind of like, yo, I want to perform. that performance anxiety. That's very real. Yeah, it's real. Super real. Women don't take that.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Can women still have sex when they stress at work? I mean, I think, obviously, a woman's going to probably be more aroused than if she's more calm and less stressed. So the same thing kind of happens. So she's probably... I mean, every woman's probably,
Starting point is 01:01:52 I can't speak from that, but I can imagine... Because you've never been a woman before. Never been a woman, that's right, yeah. You ever dated a woman that was stressed and she didn't get wet? I think if a woman is stressed, like just I'm going to assume not I haven't dated with someone that didn't get wet but I'm saying that I for sure believe if a woman is stressed out and like not having a good time then she's
Starting point is 01:02:10 probably not as wet or is she not as aroused and it's going to translate to like you know a less comfortable situation yeah but what I think was different is when a woman is like in that mood she really don't want it but I've been stressed before in a relationship with a girl and you know and I was still kind of horny you know I didn't tell her no like she was the one who initiated I was like, damn, you know, I'm stressed. And so when I'm stressed, it's going to take a lot for him to wake up, you know what I'm saying? And the girls, you know, they're, they don't take a rejection as well as us. So even if you're in a relationship, you know, I tell my girl like, no, I'm not in the mood, you know, I'm still kind of, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:52 but I'm dealing with some stuff, but they still want it. And then, so it's kind of like I'm being forced that. Women, they just say no, you said no, and that's it, you go. But men, I've said no, like, no, I'm not in. I'm not wanting, and they still in the movie or they want it, and I still have to perform while I'm stressed, and I don't think that's fair. So I think that's when Jake Cock will come in handy.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And stuff like that. And the first impression, and when you stress. So I think that's when stuff like Jake Cock will come. So yeah, perfect. So don't talk bad about it. You start giving, like, love and, like, relationship advice on pause. It'd be fucking good.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Bro, I'm telling you on Twitter, I started doing it one time I was going on the plane. I did it one time. I was trying to teach you. It's so many sims on the internet. All. That's why only the same girls are so rich now. Yeah, bro. Because all these sims on here, I'm like, I'm not telling.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Honestly, that's, that's caused hoflation. Hopeflation's happening. It's happening right now. So it's making it harder for us to get host, I mean, girls. Yeah, yeah. It's harder for us to get regular girls because the social media, all these guys leaving all these simple-ass comments on girls' pages. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And they sign their DMs. The hoflation is going up. And so it's harder for regular guys to get girls because they think, that there are tens, all of them think they're tens when reality, some of them aren't. And when a guy that's on that level try to hit on them. So I just think, I just think. Like every girl thinks they're going to get
Starting point is 01:04:14 Drake or something. Right? Yeah, because now, if they got some really nice Photoshop pictures on Instagram, do you get celebrities sliding their DMs? Yeah. So it's like, that's what we're dealing with now. Yeah. But, but you're like, but you're a celebrity. No, I'm not. Not at all? No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:04:31 So people don't call them and take photos with you? Guys. That's true. Yeah. So the only celebrities in MMA, I would say, is Conne McGregor and probably Ronda Rousey. Now she's a pro rouse. Those are what I consider like celebrities. The rest of us, we're like popular in that genre.
Starting point is 01:04:51 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I think even though I think when guys know you, I think girls also know you as well, because a lot of times in relationship to the guys. Those, yeah, I'm not going to say no girls know me, But when I go out and I'm out about it, if I'm in a bar, I'm in a place where- Yeah, that's dudes. That's dudes.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And if a girl come and most of the time, I do something, but I'm taking the only place where I get approached by girls and where MMA fighters have rupees is Japan. So that's why you spend so much time in Japan. What you mean? I don't spend a whole lot of time in Japan. I'm not always there. I wish I could live there.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I love Japan. I went to Japan a couple months ago. It was one of the best places I ever visited. Oh, man. Yes. It's good. It's just so expensive, though. Is it really? I feel like it was cheap. No, I'm just saying to live there.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because our money is stronger now. It's like 30% stronger. Yeah, yeah. So the food, I was like, this is cheap as. Yeah, now it's, she's like a lot of people go there and go shopping and all like the, you know, like the fancy stores and stuff like that. Yeah, you right, it's cheap. Where do you normally go when you're out there in Japan? I like to hang out in Tokyo, and I go to, Americans call it Rupungi. Japanese people call it Lopungi, because they can't say the R and the L is different.
Starting point is 01:05:59 But the best place to go is Fokoka, Nagoya, Osaka. Why? Food? I'm not a foodie. Yeah, just the people? The people and the girls are beautiful. And once in them I went to Fokoka years ago, and I went to McDonald's, which I never do now. And it was a model working behind a desk.
Starting point is 01:06:21 What? Working at McDonald's. She looks like a fucking model. I tried to, I tried my best as risers up. in Japanese and it wasn't working. Wasn't happening. It wasn't the first thing I asked, I said, what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Cocojean skied, Scott. Which means? Excuse me. Do you like... Whoa. Bro, you're hilarious, dude. That's the first thing you said. The first thing I said, too,
Starting point is 01:06:49 because they're normally worse, because I need to know if I need to say anything else or just walk away. Oh, my God. If they say, hi, skied ass, I'm like, oh, okay. then I can reism up.
Starting point is 01:07:00 If they go like this, yeah, they do like this? What she do? She hit you with that, huh? Yeah, she hit me with that. Damn. She was like,
Starting point is 01:07:07 no, get your black ass out of here. Oh, go. At first, I thought, I thought that she only spoke Japanese. She straight up talked like a hood. She's like, get your black. No, no, you're making it out.
Starting point is 01:07:17 No. Real talk, man. She was like, no, get your black. I don't fuck. No, she said, I ain't, no Snickers bar. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:07:25 She called me a Snickers bar, but you're lying. Okay. You're lying. Yeah, you're funny, man. Dude, the thing that I like the most about Japan was, like, the culture of it. People are so, like, respectful, and they're so into their own. And also, the anime thing is, like, pretty much Japanese culture.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yeah, you didn't realize that. I didn't realize that. No, bro. I watch a lot of anime. But not the anime porn. The porn's weird. It's weird. Weird as fuck.
Starting point is 01:07:50 No, no, the best porn is Japanese porn, but it sucks because they got the, blurred out goodness. Oh, yeah, because why don't they show that? I guess. So they don't want to show it. don't want to show the pubic area but doing sex but if you ever watch TV over there they can show every like a girl's taking a bath or something nothing sexual they can show everything but as soon as it's sexual they got to blur it out they blur it out it's the weirdest thing but but i don't watch porn i'm not a really i'm not a watch porn i'm not really a porn guy but
Starting point is 01:08:14 but um japanese porn is the best porn if you had to watch if you had to watch porn if you had to watch porn japanese because the storyline and stuff they do you're there for the storyline i'm there for the storyline oh my god so you're not the i skip this part guy you watch it no i skip certain parts. I don't like to see the BJs. Really? Yeah, I don't want to see that. Interesting. Yeah, but I don't, like I said again, I don't watch porn. Got it. Do you really not watch porn?
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah. Because I actually don't watch porn. No, I'm not saying that to joke. Yeah, you can. I swear. I swear. Why you don't want to? It's been about too. Because I didn't, I didn't have a problem with it at one moment, but I did it. I watched it a lot. You had a problem with it then. Probably had a problem. Yeah, to be honest. I probably did it, watched it too much, jerked off too much. And I was like, yo, I just need to stop it.
Starting point is 01:08:58 straight up your dicks are looking like Hannahbaugh's like I gotta stop so I stopped It's almost two years now Oh yeah You had a porn addiction bro
Starting point is 01:09:09 Probably You have addictive personality Yeah Yeah It's probably good That you stop So I don't No I'm not gonna say that
Starting point is 01:09:16 I don't watch it But it's not It's not my thing I don't really watch it But if I If I get in the mood Where I'm lonely I don't have a girl for a while
Starting point is 01:09:24 And you know You can hear some Japanese coming out of my bathroom eatai oh so go kimuji bro you're you're funny
Starting point is 01:09:36 oh man who was I going to ask you you threw me off my bad no no you're good you're good so now look
Starting point is 01:09:47 he's gonna go back he's gonna go back and watch some Japanese porn I picture you in like man now it's like
Starting point is 01:09:57 their thong. No, no thong? Okay, no thong. No thong. I've gone to my grave, not wearing a thong. If I didn't wear a thong that time they plastered my asshole, I'm not putting on the mrs. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Never. That's good. That's good. That's just, a man just shouldn't wear a thong, man. It looks weird. It looks. I know some of men probably do wear on the Ultimate Fighter. When I was coached on the Ultimate Fighter, the guys on the team, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:19 they had like a pursuits come to the house. And one day, they was telling me, if you go back and watch it, I can't remember which season it was, the one with Richard Evans. The guys was telling me, I think that's the one, the guys were telling me that one day, the guy was giving another fighter massage, and he just bent over a little bit too far. No way. He had a thong on. And I died laughing. This guy coming there doing that, and it's on TV, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:43 It's on TV. And this guy wore a masseuse, war thong, massaging fighters, massaging dudes. What the fuck? I just think, look, I don't judge nobody, but I just think that it looks uncomfortable. It looks extremely uncomfortable. I just don't think, man, should wear thones. But if you're a guy, you like wearing thones, I don't give a, you don't bother me.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Yeah, it is what it is. It is what it is. It is a little conspiracy with the little, with the little elephant fronts. What about the male strippers? They wear thones. Yeah, but that's like, how you know? Because you just said it.
Starting point is 01:11:16 No, no, no, no, no. How do you know the male strippers wear thong? Because you just said it. No, no, no, you go take my word. I'm assuming what you said was the truth. No, you like, yeah. I figured you was there last weekend. No, no.
Starting point is 01:11:25 I didn't say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. I didn't say that. I said, go back and watch the footage, bro. Why are you trying to get me, bro?
Starting point is 01:11:31 You didn't try to give me with the thorn on the whole got that time? No, we already, don't get me to talk about the cuss. I already know the cusset over here with you. Not giving the last name. Oh, no, no, no, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:11:41 She didn't take my last name. That's fine. Yeah? Yeah, I didn't give her. She's Japanese. She didn't want to take my last name. I know. I was trying to fucking names.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah, I didn't, it didn't bother me. I just thought it was stupid because now when she go to my kid's school and my kids registered school, something like that. She got a different name from my kids, so it makes her look stupid, not me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I didn't care. She left her a whole family and her career and her family business and all the different stuff to come and take care of me. I wasn't on a trip on her, not take him. Yeah, I respect that. Yeah. So switching it up a little bit,
Starting point is 01:12:12 more conspiracy talk, because we talked about this on Brandon's Bob, but I think it's so interesting. What do you think about the whole flat earth? Here we go. But it was good, bro. Yeah. People like talking about this.
Starting point is 01:12:23 And I, you know, on the pod, we were talking about, like, the satellites and I'm, like, looking at these pictures. Oh, yeah, you did. You had a good point with that. Because that went in the, and so I went and I looked at the emergency landing things. Yeah. Did you look at it up? Yeah. And it's, it is weird, but I think maybe it's the weather stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Like, there's other reasons why it could also be happening. What do you mean? Weather. What do you mean? What do they got to do with the way the geography laid out, though, the weather and stuff like that. What they got to do? Something you got to avoid weather, depending? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but I'm not understanding, like, what's the weather got to do with Alaska being in a different place than what we think is that? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I know. It's weird, but it's like, it's just, I don't know. But to say the least, it's weird. Like, okay, I didn't start really looking into flat earth until when COVID happened.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I started getting into, be honest here. I started getting to TikTok more. And just, I was scrolling through TikTok, looking at those hot shards doing those dances and stuff. Then one video came up about the moon landing. And I was always curious about the moon landing. And they were just breaking down like the moon landing and stuff. And last time I saw it when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:13:37 And I obviously believed it when I was a kid. Yeah. And I was interesting because I like space. And my favorite planet was Jupiter and stuff like that. So I'm watching the moon landing and they were talking about. I'm like, oh, yeah, it is kind of odd. It is kind of weird about the, the thing and the buggy and all this stuff I'm like oh okay and then I started looking
Starting point is 01:13:57 into it more and then they said something about the firmament and years prior when I was 26 I become born again Christian and I started reading the Bible and I remember when I read the Bible in Genesis they talk about the firmament and I had no idea what the firmament was and I never forgot because because I didn't go into a dictionary and look it up I just said I was some Bible mumbo jumbo I didn't know what it was And so I heard that word firmament. So when I heard him talk about it on that, on the video, I went back to the Bible and looked at the permit.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Then now I found out of understood what the firmament was. I said, okay. So now I have a base here with some crazy. And I was bored doing COVID. And this is when I first started not trusting the government because we got this new disease or virus or something. And now they want us to take a vaccine all of a sudden. And I was like, oh, okay, the government is doing this.
Starting point is 01:14:51 and they're giving us this vaccine for free. And I'm like, I ain't never heard them of them for free. So it's all this crazy stuff, right? For free, the tax dollars. Yeah, but you know, at that time, I heard free. And so I look at it and I say, oh, this is crazy stuff. Even though the Bible's talking about the firm is, it's crazy stuff. But then I came across this video with this guy,
Starting point is 01:15:10 I was talking about the emergency landings and he brought up that the map that we go by is different than what the map. that the pilots go by and and talking about the flat earth map and it's saying that it's the same as the logo on the united united nations right thing yeah that that map is is their logo i'm saying like the map that they go by on the planes oh they said the pilots go by this they go by this this this this map i don't know how true that is all right but i'm just saying with the video was telling me i don't know how true that which map the pilots go by i haven't asked the politics but the thing that caught my attention was that the um the united nations their logo used
Starting point is 01:15:55 the flat earth map it looks it looks different the continents and stuff is laid out different than what uh the iron map goals laid out and so and i looked into the like if you know even if even if you wrapped it's still not the same it's like um it just position it's just position different it's yeah the way on the u-s map yeah have you ever seen that that logo no i've seen it but i haven't like you have it looked at it so that so that so that so that so that so that the layout of the continents and stuff on the flat
Starting point is 01:16:24 they said that's true the way the way the continent really looks the way the map really looks because I've heard stories that this older white lady was always talking about racism and she was saying that Africa is wrong is bigger than what they portraying
Starting point is 01:16:38 that they got other continents bigger than Africa so I was already skeptical about the map that we use anyway once this lady saw it pointing it out and stuff like that because she made sense and somebody makes sense to me I'm going to look into it more. And then I saw that in the United States.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I said, what makes sense to you because what? Like, what's making it make sense? What's making it make sense is that, you know, I've flown all over the world. I've flown, you know what I'm saying? A lot of places. And sometimes I'll be thinking like, you know, I'll be thinking like, man, this just don't add up. Why are we going all the way up here?
Starting point is 01:17:18 to get to this place all the way down here. So I was always thinking about that. You know, why we got to fly through this place to go through there and then when you look on the flat earth map, you know, we think that we're going up, like a curve, we're going up here and flying over this destination to go all the way down here.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And when I know the fastest way and the most least expensive way is to go straight line. And then you look on a flat earth map and then you see if you put a straight line from this destination all the way through the places you go over or you hub or you pass over to get there it's most like the straight straight line and and that to me like of the actual flight
Starting point is 01:17:53 the actually it makes sense but when you watch the flight on the on the on tv on the airplane it's going to show you a going around a yeah going like this and it's a big career and stuff like that so some stuff just didn't add up to me and so to say the least I was saying that it was interesting and then I I didn't fully believe in flat earth until I come across this um the emergency landers And then that just made sense to me. And I said, oh, okay, well, then maybe the earth is flat. And then I looked into, okay, okay, what's this going on? What's this ice wall?
Starting point is 01:18:26 I know what the problem was with me, why I didn't believe it. There's a couple of reasons why I didn't believe it at first because they was preaching that we're spinning at 666. They kept talking about the devil and NASA is like mean to deceive. And like they said when the rockets go off, they said T minus three seconds, T minus this and you spell NASA. It's a T-minus to make Satan. All this devil.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And I was like, that's too much of a coincidence. And I'm like, I don't, I don't, I don't, that was keeping me away from, from, from believing all the flat earth stuff. Then I learned about the ice wall. And I remember reading the psychopelias and stuff when I was young. And I remember it used to be called the Arctic Circle. Yeah. And it wasn't called like Antarctica. It was called the Arctic Circle.
Starting point is 01:19:15 and I have this interest in words and the origins of words because when I started traveling the world and stuff I noted that our language is very weird because when I was learning Japanese I was a better speller in Japanese than I am in English because English always seemed weird to me and I can't spell shit in English
Starting point is 01:19:33 when I was learning how to read and write Japanese I could spell my ass off in Japanese and so I look up the origins of words and my mom is tough he put me in Latin in high school So I had to, you know, you learn what these words and so where they come from. So I saw looking up words like, like airplane. Airplane, yeah?
Starting point is 01:19:53 Airplane. Like, why is it called airplane? Now look at the word horizon. Why is it called horizon? Then you look at the word sea level. So all this stuff just make, it just makes sense to me if you like know the origins of words and why words are words. And then you just look back to our ancestors and how smart they were to build all these crazy buildings back in the day. period means that we can't feel now and and and it's weird it's weird it's weird
Starting point is 01:20:20 and people say that they knew the earth was flat back then but we was gaslit to think that what would be the point to for you for us to not believe that it's flat though and are not and believe that it's round if it wasn't round I think that the point is it always points back to money NASA makes they make a lot of money it's a whole branch the government yeah collects a lot of tax dollars that make a lot of money and And we're sheep, we're, we're, um, we're, we're just, um, numbers like ever since we have a birth certificate, ever since you got to be born. Social security number.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Yeah, ever since we're numbers, like we're, when we're born, we're already in debt. We got to pay so much money, right? Yeah, we're consumers, right? So we pay, we happily pay these taxes and stuff like that. And, um, and I, and I also think that, um, even though I'm not religious, but I do believe in, um, the most high. And I feel like, um, um, I feel like, um, um, If we really knew where we lived and what this earth was, this realm was, we would know 100% in the true living God.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Because we would know, like, how did we get a firmament over where we live? And the thing that kept me from believing this was the propaganda. When they show you the flat earth, they show you this pancake earth in outer space with other round planets by it and stuff like that. and and you see when you think of it you that's what you think of you think of outer space but this pancake um a planet would have still got the big sun a 93 million miles away this giant sun that's round that's round and you got all these planets and stuff but we in outer space as a pancake and that's and that's that's the picture that they that they paint for you to keep you from looking into it more you just to miss it right away you're like all
Starting point is 01:22:11 Oh, that's nonsense. Like, how come everything else is a planet in there around and we're in outer space as a pancake and that's propaganda? So then do you think the other planets don't exist or like what would be the other option? The other options would be that the other planets are really not planets at all, that they're possibly wondering stars or something like that. Like I feel like we've been lied to so much that I'm not going to see here and say I'm a flat earther, but I'm no longer calling flat earthers idiots, because now I'm,
Starting point is 01:22:45 like I said, I'm leading towards that, and I know that flat earthers don't know everything. Because when I talk about with my friends, they was like, what showed me a picture of the flat earth? I was like, I can CGI something for you right now. You know, I can find something to have somebody to show you some CGI. But from my understanding, with the firmament, we can't get high enough to, take a picture of the whole earth because of the firmament so say you want a picture you want me to give you a picture of this whole floor and i got to go past this ceiling to take a picture of the whole floor i can't get far high enough i see what you're saying to to get a picture of this whole
Starting point is 01:23:24 floor and that's why we don't have pictures of the of the flat earth because because the the firmament you can't you can't get in you can't get out so you think the picture that we see of the earth like from space is like it's just a CGI. Just like when you show Brendan those pictures of the cellarites. Yeah, they all look fake, right? Yeah. And I've seen, I've seen cellulites.
Starting point is 01:23:49 You know that the Chinese spy balloon? Yeah. You remember that? That's what satellites are. Like balloons? Yeah, that's what the satellite is. It's not the ones that the CGI. They can't go and out of space.
Starting point is 01:24:04 They can't get past it. What's it called? The atmosphere or whatever, what do you call? stratosphere they can't get passive because it's what 4,000 degrees what what metal wires and stuff like that do you think will withstand going through that much heat I mean I think there are certain metals that are it's like only two metals on the pre-a table that can withstand that heat and then and the satellites are not made by that but okay even if they could what about the the wires and stuff like that what well they're inside
Starting point is 01:24:29 the metal yeah so then the what then they're protected from the metal now you think so you don't think you don't think you don't think I don't know about any of you don't think He can go inside metal and melt wires. Yeah, I guess if there's some sort of like deflected inside or something. Yeah, but let me tell you, I'm not trying to convince you. No, no, no. I don't know. Yeah, you asked me a question.
Starting point is 01:24:48 I'm telling you. I'm genuinely asked because I'm really curious. Yeah, but you brought up a good point with those satellites. I was like, yeah, there's a CGI. That made me look into it more. Yeah, because, well, I mean, I did, because I had my buddy, my buddy on here came and started talking about Zerk, and he was telling, like, it went crazy. Like, the clips go crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:04 So I was like, I'm talking about this. And there's a lot of people who are like, it is kind of weird. It's kind of weird. It's kind of weird. So my whole point is this. I think in this world, especially in America in this world, like we have so many different things that divides us like religion, politics, you know, saying race, sexual orientation. I decided a long time ago not to be prejudiced against anybody.
Starting point is 01:25:26 So my whole message is, you know, don't divide yourself from somebody or don't call somebody stupid because they believe in something different from you. from you like absolutely a lot of people believe what the bible say uh i i'm not like i said i'm not a religious person but i believe the old testament this is my own personal opinion right for me the old testament is more more or less a history book i don't know how they got a religion out of it though new testament something totally different so my family is very religious they might get upset when we were saying how i feel but but i feel like the old testament taught me a lot and i feel like it's a it's a history book it talks about giants they talk about the nephraim it talks about um
Starting point is 01:26:05 they talked about the earth and stuff like that yeah and i feel like people shouldn't get mad at other people for what they believe the bible say the earth looked like because it could be interpreted in a lot of different ways because the bible said the earth looked like a um seal like a clay you know back in the day they used they used to put seals on things and the letters and yeah and that's what it describes and stuff like that and just for me i was like all right you know, the Bible, the Bible says it's like this and that it can't be moved and it's sitting on, you know, foundation and it don't move and stuff like that. So I really trust in the Bible than in the government and the NASA.
Starting point is 01:26:46 So that's my, that's my, and I get it. And I just don't want, I just don't want people to be on the internet calling people like me or anybody else to believe in what the Bible said over NASA. It's stupid because it can go back and forth. I can say that you're stupid for believing in Santa. Claus as a kid. But we all grew out of that. We all believe in Santa Claus as a kid, but then we grew out of it.
Starting point is 01:27:09 I feel like, you know, government, everybody lied to us about Santa Claus. Everybody, and because they would lie to, and so it's a foundation, they would lie to about Santa Claus. I believe there's a lot of, I believe there's a lot of people at NASA that works for NASA and still believe in outer space, but I think that there's a lot of people at top that know that out of space is not real. yeah i think i mean i just think there's just the world is so weird and the internet's like made it 10 times we're because at the at the core of all this stuff is money and power and it's like
Starting point is 01:27:43 you know it's we'd be naive to think that i don't know that some of this stuff i'm not saying that flat earth exactly or some of these things aren't just like really there's this really happening like people are really like with all the money and the power really deceiving people to keep them in between to maintain that sort of dynamic. It just makes sense, right? It's like same thing on a very small level that everyone could relate to, right, the cool kids in school. And all the cool kids are cool. And then like that kid's not as cool, so he's not a part of that little group. Or on, on like the internet, for example, like, YouTubers that are like doing well are probably not going to collab just straight off with like someone who's just getting started because they have
Starting point is 01:28:23 nothing to sort of add there. So they kind of work with each other. Then you keep taking up levels where it's like billionaires and millionaires are, you know, millionaires are working together, billionaires and like all these people, all the control in the world at the very top, they probably all know each other because like, you know, they own these industries and that person owns that industry and that person owns that business. And it's almost as if like we would be really naive to think that that that's not happening at the highest level of like, and I'm not calling it Illuminati. I'm not calling it this, but it's people who have all the power and control.
Starting point is 01:28:51 And it would be, it'd be stupid to think that there wasn't sort of like, yo, you do this and I'll do this and we'll make sure that we keep this going, so we keep filling our pockets. Like, that's like kind of human nature. Yeah. So to think that that's not happening is a little stupid and naive. Yeah. And so then all these things like, you know, if we talk about flat earth and if someone's believing it or not or all these different things are like, you know, NASA, if it's not real
Starting point is 01:29:16 or this or that or COVID, the pharmaceutical industry, they're all money machines. It's all about money. So it's, that's why I get so, I get so interested in these things. Like, not that I'm like, oh, this is 100% true. Exactly. I haven't seen it and I can't walk up there and go, oh, yeah, look, I'm here. Right. But I definitely know from the bottom looking up to it and just humans and human nature, it's
Starting point is 01:29:36 like we'd be naive to think if like these things weren't a possibility. Right, exactly. So think about the alien situation right now. Yeah. You think about 10 years ago, or even less, five years ago, if you even talk about aliens, oh, I've seen the UFO, I've seen aliens. Yeah, like you're crazy. You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Yeah. And what's going on now? Yeah, it's like even they're like even saying, yeah, no, we 100%. have encountered this. Right. Like they're saying it. But then it just makes me go like, what the fuck? Because like I typically am not a big believer in the government.
Starting point is 01:30:07 And it really started for me during COVID the same time. Yeah. Because I was dealing with that, you know, keep my gym open during COVID. Yeah, I remember hearing about that. And I was just kind of like every time they would tell me their reasons, I was like, this doesn't even make sense. You're not making this make sense. It's a test.
Starting point is 01:30:20 It's all control. So my point is like that's what I was really like, this really just seems like it's just money, control. It's like just the fact, simple fact, that these pharmaceutical companies, trillion-dollar industries are just like collecting billions and billions of tax dollars. And it's a for-profit business that someone's making, becoming a billionaire and all these other people becoming multimillionaires and all these people got their hands in this business. It's like, and they're like, it's free, but it's not free.
Starting point is 01:30:45 We just already paid for it with our taxes that they took from us because we have to. Then I'm just like, and then people, people, you're told it's free. It was never free. It's your money. And it's for someone and for-profit here. It's like, if the pharmaceutical companies were all like non-profit and all that money was just like dispersed back into the, then I'd be like, all right, maybe I'm kind of believing it. And then when I started asking questions about just like, you know, why is it closed here and closed there? They're like, well, I'm like, why are the airports all open?
Starting point is 01:31:12 It's full open no matter what. Bro, strip clubs never closed down. I don't know. I don't know how I know this information. Yeah, it's crazy. But doing COVID, you didn't know that strippers, the sex workers was essential. Yeah, you know, you know what's crazy about that? I knew that, not because I was ever at a strip club.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Seriously, I know you might have been. I knew that, though, because I'm in the San Fernando Valley, and my business is in the San Fernando Valley. And I knew at the same time, because I was asking all these questions and looking into all this, because I was trying to figure out how to beat this. Because I was in court for, like, I went like nine times to court for months and months and months. Paying lawyers, I was booed.
Starting point is 01:31:43 And so I'm looking into everything to understand this. And I'm realizing, like, not only are, is that open? Porn sets are okay to be indoors with a bunch of people if you're filming porn. because it's considered essential business. Oh, for real? Yeah. You're in the porn industry? No, I just knew that.
Starting point is 01:32:01 I had people who worked out at my gym who were in the industry, and they would tell me, they're like, yeah, no, we're good. Like, we just got to do this or do that. You worked out with porn stars? I have, yeah. Or female porn stars? I have, yeah. Have they ever approached you and try to get you to do porn with them?
Starting point is 01:32:15 No. Would you date a porn star? That's a good question. Like an active porn star? No. Oh, but you would date a retired one? Yeah, it depends. it depends how much porn they did you know
Starting point is 01:32:29 do it depend on how hot she was how hot she is like if she was super hot would I accept it more I don't know I don't know if that really depends I got approached by this by this porn star that wanted to date me right I was can you say who
Starting point is 01:32:44 I don't I say who if I can remember her name Kalea I was I could say her name if I can remember it but um When was this? This was years ago when I was hot and sex in my I was in shape. I was fighting at 205.
Starting point is 01:32:59 You said, Kahlia or something? Kalila. Kalifa? No, no, no. It's an old point. So I met her in Vegas. I was in Drey's after hours.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Okay. I saw this hot-assie girl. She's like Latino Asian looking, right? Just be the Asian, you like Asian. I like, what I like, I like brunettes. Okay. So sometimes they're Asian, sometimes they're, I like all girls.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Yeah. But I really like exotic looking girls. Yeah, I have a broad. you know, type, right? Right, right. And I met her in Dres, and we hung out, dancing and stuff like that. And the night, she gave me a kiss, like a peck. She gave me her phone number.
Starting point is 01:33:35 And I was super drunk at this time, so I never texted. I forgot even had her number in my phone. So months went by, and she was in L.A. And she texted me. Like, oh, shit, what's I remember? She said, you live in Cali? You near L.A.? I said, well, I'm in Orange County.
Starting point is 01:33:49 She said, come up. I'm here with her friends. And I took my manager with me. At the time, he was my friend. He's a former UFC fighter. Yeah. And he came with me and we went up there. There was two girls.
Starting point is 01:33:58 We're hanging out, chilling. Then he was like, man, I know that girl from somewhere. And I was like, for real? And if he know a girl, I don't fuck one of them because this guy got bodies. I was like, girls love this dude. I was like, you know my friend? She was like, no, I don't know him. I don't know him.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Then I was like, he said, he said, he said, are you like a model or something? Are you a stripper or something? He said, I've seen you somewhere. She said, no. No, I'm not a stripper. Then she said, you really don't know who I am? I'm like, no, I have no idea who you are. She said, all this time, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:34:32 We've been texting. You don't know. I said, I have no idea. She said, oh, I'm a porn star. I'm a porn star. Couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. And she was hot.
Starting point is 01:34:42 No, no, no, I couldn't even fucking star. And she was hot as shit. So she was so hot. And she was cool. I liked that personality and stuff like that. So honestly, I was thinking about it. And so I was just having a conversation where I said. And she wanted to.
Starting point is 01:34:54 She said, I like you, you know, I want to get to know you better. We were just in, this is like our second time hanging out. We've never done anything and nothing like that. And I was like, so what's in it for me if I date a porn star? Like, you fucking other dudes and something. She said, I only work like three times a month. I'm like, oh, then I was like, I was like, so you like girls, right? You do girls?
Starting point is 01:35:14 Yeah, I said, so what, can we have threesome sometimes? She said, no, no, no. I was like, I can go smash other chicks while you work? She said, no, no, no, you, you're all my. I'm like, wow, that's weird. So I was like, no, no, that's a deal breaker for me. And I, and I, I, I never seen it. But, wait, so she wanted to date you kind of, but she wanted to be able to keep working,
Starting point is 01:35:33 but you couldn't do anything else. I couldn't do anything. That's weird. That's weird, right? That's super, like, opposite. That's super opposite. Because I've had friends who dated girls that was bisexual, but she could smash another chick, but he couldn't even join in, and he couldn't even go in.
Starting point is 01:35:48 What? That's a deal. That's a big deal, right? What? So that's what I like That's what I was like looking at I talked to I seen my friends that have relationships like that I was like man that's that's not idea for me
Starting point is 01:36:00 Like what the fuck yeah So yeah I couldn't I couldn't do but hearing you You could date a see you call me a call Because my ex-wife wouldn't take my last name But you'll you'll date a girl that went through a whole bunch I don't know that's what I'm saying that you said how much I say how much Depends what how much
Starting point is 01:36:15 And could you have watched her old No And still have been attracted to her no If I seen my girl smash somebody, if I seen it, I'm not attracted to the one. Like I'm done. Like I say, I come across one of her sex videos or something like that. Because girls be having this. Well, now, because this whole thing, the thing we were talking about, the only fan.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Yeah, I could. So many girls. I don't think I can, they're the only fans, girl. If I seen something that's hot enough, like, I mean, I'm a, I'm a dude. I try to smash, but would I take them serious? Yeah, do you think, do you think, so, okay, so obviously there's different levels to that, right? Because some girls do only fans that they only sell, they just sell, you know, maybe some like more...
Starting point is 01:36:52 Dildos and stuff? Nah, because like some do porn and then some do like self porn, dildos, and then some do like look at my cleavage in a thing or some do implied nudity or, you know, some just show their butt. So there's like different levels to it.
Starting point is 01:37:05 You wouldn't, you could never take a girl serious like that ever. I don't think so because think about this. Think about it if you, you're getting a girl and we're guys. We have emotion. I say we, we, because when men and women day, men truly love the woman. And women love men conditionally, right?
Starting point is 01:37:20 but men, we truly love that woman. I love is true. So I'm dating this girl, and I really love this girl. I love this take. It's true, though. And I love to talk about it. And I love this girl, right? And I fall for her, and we want to go to the next level move in.
Starting point is 01:37:35 And all my friends looking at my girl's butthole. They know what my girl's butthole look like? You know what I'm saying? But what if she didn't sell butthole stuff? Well, she just sold, like, bikini pictures. Oh, well, that's kind of different because at the end of the day, we don't want no girl that nobody else want to look at. But I don't want to
Starting point is 01:37:49 potentially risk falling in love with this girl and marrying this girl and all my friends I've seen her butt hole and her play with her ass It's less special. Yeah, it's like, I just want to see that for myself.
Starting point is 01:38:01 I don't want my friends to know what your butt hole look like. Yeah. Come on, you want all your friends and know what your wife? No. No, I don't know. Especially not.
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Starting point is 01:39:33 this is type of mind i got when when remember when i saw i married a japanese girl yeah because i was a single parent so what i did was you know don't judge me but i dated five girls at one time to see which one i was going to marry i was ready to be a husband to So I can get a mom to take care of my, help me take care of my son because I was fighting in Japan overseas. Yeah. And I just couldn't, I just couldn't do, I couldn't beat mom and dad at all 100% of the time. So, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:39:57 I was like, look, I need some help. And, you know, instead of like hiring a nanny and stuff like that. You picked the one that was most suited. I did the best job. I dated five girls and I picked the, and then as soon as I, she didn't check with her, boom, I broke up with her. And I got down to the last two, this one Hawaiian girl. She was, she was really good, but she was like kind of negative.
Starting point is 01:40:16 but the girl could sing just like Alicia Keys and I loved it and I almost chose her but my son met it was like the ultimate wife championship yeah you were like that's sick yeah and I chose the Japanese girl because she was just you didn't have them fight just to see who's stronger like who would be better that would have been a good idea that would the Japanese girl probably would have won
Starting point is 01:40:33 because she was a little bit bigger and she took judo she said she took judo in high school damn so we were talking about the guy you said what did you say earlier that got me you said something about the guy girl thing is different oh yeah you didn't know that No, I know it's different. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:48 But you said it specifically, you were like... Yeah, guys, like, our love is true. When we love a woman, it's true love. So why do you think that women aren't... Isn't true love? You think it's just conditional? I think, honestly, I think that it's... I feel like we're all habits of, like, our genetic makeup, our DNA and our instincts.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Yeah. That's why I truly believe in myself. I believe that it's nothing that we... we make the decision for ourselves. I think it's in us. So I feel like dating back to like Stone Age and stuff like that. A man got his wife and kids and stuff
Starting point is 01:41:28 but he go out hunting. And he's the way that, you know, the wife and kids eat. Provider. He's a provider. He goes out and hunt, say he goes out hunting a saber-toothed Tiger and Tiger kills his ass.
Starting point is 01:41:41 She's finding some other dude. She's finding some other dude. Damn. So she can survive. So like innately in the DNA, that's how it is. I think that's literally undeniable. Yeah. It's a fact.
Starting point is 01:41:52 That's a fact. I think there's a fact. And I think women are actually, that's exactly what they do. Yeah, so I don't fault women for, for business way. Right. So women, like most women, don't date down. No, we're not talking about all women. I'm talking about the majority.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Most women would not date down. So a woman has to, they were, they were, most women like a man, that's stronger than them, taller than them, make more money than them. than them and so a lot of times they'll get with a guy and he's he's what they're looking for but then especially they're beautiful and they can pull a lot they'll see oh damn this got better but by this time this guy invested he loves this woman and everything but she sees another guy she gets on by another guy that's got more money than this guy so like then so she's like hmm I got a better option over here yeah so she might love this first guy but this
Starting point is 01:42:42 So that's what you think that the habit comes from, like, or that innate? No, I think that the habit comes from, like I said, like the ancestors where the woman has to, like, she has to move on if the husband get killed in battle or gets killed hunting or she won't survive. She got to still provide for her offspring. She got to, she don't know how to hunt. It wasn't not her job to go on. So now it's like that concept mixed with the fact that like social media has made all these things more accessible. Because we still have that, because as humans, they still have that.
Starting point is 01:43:12 that trait So she's going to So even back in a day Think about it She's a woman She would probably choose The better hunter The guy who gets the food
Starting point is 01:43:20 More often than the Because every time they hunt They ain't catching Yeah So what girl is gonna go With this guy who Probably bring something back Once every two weeks
Starting point is 01:43:28 A person of this guy Who bring back a big ass carcass Like once a day Once every two days Yeah So which guy gets the most girls back then So I think Dude it's
Starting point is 01:43:36 It's so Undeniable Yeah And then the internet Just made it way worse Yeah Yeah, it's all, bro, we're a creature of DNA and instinct. That's, that's, I think that's what, that's what make, make us and that what makes us, like, who we are as humans.
Starting point is 01:43:54 I think that it's all passed down, like, science is still don't understand, you know, our DNA. I was just talking about this earlier, science is still don't understand. So we don't understand why we do a whole lot. And, and me, I have this weird mind where I have to, something that interests me, I have to look into it. And that's one thing that I looked into, because. because I stumbled across this by accident because my ex-wife, one day she told me my blood type. You said this.
Starting point is 01:44:20 You were talking about the blood type on the pot. So what, so you told me, and it's like, what the fuck? So you believe your blood type dictates what? Oh, your personality. That's what she, that's what Japanese people believe. That's what she believe. Yeah. Now, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Do you think it's accurate? From the studies that she showed me and from what I, and what I, um, research and looked up, I feel like it's, um, I feel like it's, just as accurate or more accurate than how women believe in horoscopes. Yeah. You're not a horoscope way out. You don't believe in that show.
Starting point is 01:44:48 No, I'm not, I'm not a horoscope guy. I just know, I just know my sign. I don't know what sign in the other person is. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not into that. And even with the blood types, I just know about my blood type. I don't know about a whole lot about everybody who's blood type. Because I'm not interested in it.
Starting point is 01:45:01 I just wanted to learn more about myself. Yeah. That's why I say I'm a descendant of Genghis Khan. Yeah, I know. You did stuff. I look just like them. Do you? Yeah, Gengis Khan.
Starting point is 01:45:11 skin color and everything? Yeah, if I had the long mustache thing. Oh, you look just like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they said one in nine or like one and ten people are in the world. Yeah. If you blood type B, you probably descendant of gangas con. Damn. He probably went to Africa and black folks. For sure. Took took over. He took some shit over. Yeah. You never know, man. No, for sure. You're funny, man. You should do some stand-of. I don't know, you think you think I can do it. What, hey, if I, if I go and I do some stand-up up and I fail.
Starting point is 01:45:43 You can blame me. I'm blaming, me and you. We can shoot a fight. Yep. We got to go in the cage with a referee. Oh, let's do it. We got to do three rounds. You want to do five minute rounds or three minute rounds?
Starting point is 01:45:52 Three minute rounds? Yeah. What do you want to do? Kickboxing and boxing on MMA. M. All right. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:58 That's what we should do. Yeah. We're going to do that. Do it. I don't have the balls, though. Come on. Do it. And then we can set that up.
Starting point is 01:46:07 So how do I, how do I go about? I don't know. Brennan should have an idea, right? You know a bunch of comedians. I do. I met this one comedian in Arizona. He said he was going to write some shit for me, but he never did. I mean, you probably would write some shit, talk to some people like that and be like,
Starting point is 01:46:22 what do you think? And you probably get some pointers, and then they could probably kind of coach you. Because, I mean, I don't think all these comedians are just, they all just, no one helps them at all. Some people got to get help, right? Yeah, I'm really cool with Russell Peters. Yeah. He's going to help you?
Starting point is 01:46:39 He's a good friend. He's a good guy. I would ask him. You know, it would be funny if they just set you up to fail. Yeah, that's why I'm worried about. That's what I'm worried about. I'm worried about. Like, as it's a joke for them, they're like, watch the shit.
Starting point is 01:46:52 That's what I'm worried about. It's just one of those things. Like, some people, you know, I feel like I'm good. I like entertaining people, so I'm good at fighting and making people cheer and making people laugh after my fights and stuff like that. And, you know, even though I don't get paid for telling jokes, I'm happy with that. Yeah. Would you do any more fighting? Yeah, I'm trying to do a boxing match now.
Starting point is 01:47:15 With who? This boxing name, Shannon Briggs. I saw an old video of him, like, some old, like, I feel it was like a weird promo video for a fight that never happened. Yeah, he's been looking for, this shit has been, and it works for two years. So we're getting closer and closer. So I got some promoters that want to sign me to do that to fight him,
Starting point is 01:47:35 but I'm an MMA guy, so I don't know how boxer promotion work. And then Shannon hit me up with these other people that want to do something in the Middle East as well. But I guess we got that money out there. Yeah, yeah. How would that work? Do you think you'd do well in boxing? I think I'd do okay if I box older people because I haven't fought for years.
Starting point is 01:47:55 And so I don't know how my body would work. I think when I, when I sparked one time in Vietnam, I sparked this kid named Eric, I forgot his last name. He was a heavyweight boxing champion, like Asian guy, heavyweight. Current. Well, he retired. He retired. Okay. He just threw other stuff, but he said it wasn't enough heavy weights for him to fight in Asia.
Starting point is 01:48:15 And I sparred him, and that's good as shit. But I was like, how slow was it? He was like, yeah, he was pretty slow. So he was young. He's like in his early 30s, late 20s. Yeah. So I'm thinking maybe I should go against guys like closer to my age. Guys older, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah, I would just want to do fun fights and entertain people because I've done everything else. I've done all my other martial arts. I know. I had wrestling matches. I've had Jiu-Jitsu matches and I've had Muay or kickboxing matches but I just never had a boxing match
Starting point is 01:48:44 that's the last art that I know that I haven't had the entire yeah yeah so I want to be dope I'd love to watch that yeah I'm pretty this year 2024 I have to because I'm gonna be 46 I know the fighters
Starting point is 01:48:58 we have a short time so yeah I want to I want to do it before I get too old do you think do you think genetically some people just have longer than others though genetically and the way they take care of their like my like my my my my my my friends um my he's like my brother check congo he's if i'm 45 so he got to be like he's 47 yeah but he's like always straight always ripped and i i i don't think he slowed down yeah and he trains hard but he just got a lot of injuries from fighting so i think that if he didn't
Starting point is 01:49:28 have all these injuries i really want to take him to um columbia to my to my friends at biocelerator i really want to take him there to get stem cells and i think i think he can fight for i just want to I like to research stuff. Have you ever got stem cells? Yeah, yeah. That's amazing. It works. It works.
Starting point is 01:49:43 It works wonders. But I think if Congo can, I think if he gets stem cells and he stays on top of it, he gets a year later, I think he can probably fight 10 more years because he's just a genetic thing. At what age? He's, if I, if I, he's older than you. He's older than me. In late 50s. No, no, no. He's, yeah, I think he can fight to his late 50s because his genetic makeup.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Congo is such a genetic specimen. I have this other friend that she was a boxer and she was a mom. She's a boxing. She's all natural. She's just really strong. I wanted to, I'm weird. Like, I wanted to have kids. I wanted to have kids. I wanted to take the baby and put them in fighting. I never met a girl. I never met a girl that's this strong. She just, she don't got muscles and stuff like that. But she just sometimes, you know, we used to spar together and stuff like that. And she's a good athlete and she started boxing late. Then she just playing around. She just grabbed me and wrestle with me. And I'm, bro, I'm not strong lifting weights, but I'm strong. Yeah, yeah, I get you. And it was like, I was struggling. I couldn't even let her know how bad I was struggling. I was like. How heavy was she? She's not heavy at all. She's like a model, bro, but she's, but she's tall. She's like, probably like five, ten. So a little taller, but she felt strong to you.
Starting point is 01:50:48 She felt strong. I can tell that it's her strong ligaments because I've wrestled people before in college, like these little bitty wrestlers and strong. And my one of my MMA coach, Antonio McKee, you got to look him up. This is like probably, he used to fight at probably like 145, 150. He's stronger to me. I guarantee he's strong to you. No.
Starting point is 01:51:07 I guarantee you. brother I bet money I would call him up let's go to his gym and I want to see you wrestle with him I bet bring your people I guarantee how much you weigh how much I weigh how much is he where right now he's older he's retired he's probably like he wouldn't he wouldn't be over 160 damn I'm 260 bro I bet you he's strong than you I see oh I guarantee you money not in living weights I'm talking about wrestling around stuff like that I guarantee you because he he just weigh his genetics he he got strong ligaments and everything I've seen people like this before What if I had strong ligaments like that?
Starting point is 01:51:40 Well, you might have strong ligaments, but I haven't never wrestled against you, so I don't know. But he's good at wrestling? Yeah, he's good at wrestling. I'll come do it. I'll come do it. Can you feel me? I want to see it. I'm going to ask him it's okay.
Starting point is 01:51:50 I'll come do it. You ain't going to want to post it. Okay. I'll still do it. This guy I'm talking about Czech Congo. Have you heard, have you seen him? Yes, yes. He got the, he got the, um, this is not who you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:52:01 No, I'm not talking about him. Yeah. So I've seen them to wrestle that we train together. And Czech Congo is one of the strongest people I know in fighting. And the little guy, I told me, my coach, Antonio McKee, he's just, I'll strengthen him. He outstretched. Well, it's just because he's better technique?
Starting point is 01:52:16 Strong, brother. Strong. Like, I wrestle with him myself. And I'm not that technical, so I rely on my strength, and I can't do shit with him. Just his grip alone. He'll grab your risk. I want to do it. I want to come wrestle with you, too.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Yeah, yeah, come. That'll be fun. Yeah, yeah. And then you got to come lift. like train with me. I'll come lift with you, but I suck it lifting weights. I don't, I'm just not good at it, but I come to do it with you. Yeah. So with this, I have to go to Orange County for this? Yeah. Yeah, his gym is in near Cerritos area. I call him up and see, but he, but I don't know if he's still training because he's older now. Like, um, he's probably like, probably 50 now.
Starting point is 01:52:56 I'll go easy on him. All right, but he's, I guarantee you at 50, he's still, damn. So yeah, so anyway, so back to kind of like the original question. Just, there's just people. people who are just genetic freaks of this kind of stuff. Yeah, I agree with that. So for you then, where, at what point was it like, did it feel when you're training, you're like, you started slowing down? Like, what age?
Starting point is 01:53:16 Oh, man, I think I, I think. Because obviously pride, you was, bro, I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s in pride. And people, I was so strong in pride, people did think I was on steroids. But the people that took steroids, they could look at my body back then,
Starting point is 01:53:29 they could tell I was on steroids. Right, right. But I didn't even lift weights back then. You were just, just, fighting Genetically strong Yeah But I think it also had to do what
Starting point is 01:53:39 I've been doing construction Since I was five year old Because my family Own construction comes back home In Memphis Yeah So I remember there's a little kid I'm picking up boulders
Starting point is 01:53:46 And long That makes sense And doing stuff But but But I was My brothers and stuff They've been doing the same They didn't
Starting point is 01:53:53 Look at this bro This What is those It's all natural I think they're 19s No Yeah Actually might be
Starting point is 01:53:59 What is yours Probably bigger than that That's for sure You want to see yeah that's that's like that's bigger than my yeah it's all good but like I said I know my arms always look like this
Starting point is 01:54:11 even before I lift weights you look great and I lift waist now yeah you look great for sure definitely not dog when I'm not on vacate once I'm coming back I live weights every day well like six days a week but do you hit legs though no I skip leg day every day
Starting point is 01:54:27 why dude that's gonna make you the strongest the hip strength I got bad knees Yeah, I got great knees Yeah, I got bad knees That's weird Yeah, I need to go back To get more stem cells
Starting point is 01:54:38 I just haven't had time to go there Yeah So how many times have you got that done? I've only done it once And it worked, it worked wonders But then I was told that since I'm like an athlete And I have all these injuries
Starting point is 01:54:51 I should keep going back Keep going So next time Where did you go? I went to Columbia. Columbia, okay If you ever think about Look up Bio Accelerator
Starting point is 01:54:59 They're the best bro Bio Accelerator In Columbia Okay I'm gonna go back. I'll check it out. Then I, when I go back and get my knees right, I'll come do legs with you one day,
Starting point is 01:55:07 but I don't want to be sore. You can't go heavy on the first time. I know that trick. I know that trick. I know that trick. But my legs aren't strong because I've seen Chekongo do legs, and he's a big muscle up,
Starting point is 01:55:21 but he's small. My legs are big. But his legs are skinny, and I try to lift where he. I said, I can do this. I couldn't even pick it up. Damn. My legs are just not strong for lifting weights.
Starting point is 01:55:32 I'm not strong. at lifting weights. Yeah. I'm not strong at lifting weights, but I bet you if we wrestle, I can pick you up and slam me, like throw you around. But you can outlift me in weights.
Starting point is 01:55:42 I don't think that if we wrestle, I don't think you can outstrient me. God, I really want to try it. Yeah. I'm excited. But I haven't wrestled in a long time. So I'm a old man.
Starting point is 01:55:51 So I just had to put that out there. Yeah, in case I fuck you. Have you ever wrestled, though? I've done, no, not in high school, but I've done enough training, jujitsu. I've done enough training, judo. I've done enough where I like, I'm aware of what's happening. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Where it might be a problem for you. You'll get something. You ain't ever wrestling in high school. It's going to be, oh, high school is the determinant of the wrestling. That's the determination. You think if you wrestle in high school, you're just all of a sudden. I think if you did good in high school, you're wrestling in high school, you went through all that training and stuff like that. I think that if you stay with it for a little bit, you'll always know how to wrestle. I'm just because now, bro. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Yeah, it's going to be home. Oh, God. You get slammed by old. Man, you're going to be all in best. Oh, I can't wait. No, you're not old, bro. Fort and five. That's old for my sport.
Starting point is 01:56:39 For fighting, man, I guess. Yeah, but it's young, though, huh? Yeah. I'm still young. I don't think I'm ever going to grow up, bro. Yeah, I don't think I will either. No, no. The thing you said about playing video games and, like, it's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Yeah, bro. That's, like, exactly how I feel about my life. Yeah, it's fun. It keeps, like, it keeps me stress free, you know? It keeps me, I can be in my own little world. And online, like, people don't know who I am. Yeah. So you're just like, like whatever.
Starting point is 01:57:04 I just beat myself. What else do you do to, like, calm yourself or to, like, chill out? Yeah, that's a good question. You meditate and shit? Yeah, no, my brain don't stop. I can't meditate. I don't know, man. I don't, I don't do a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:57:17 I play poker. I like poker. I love it. You know, I like going to Vietnamese coffee shops. That, that comes me down and stuff. I love Vietnamese. I love it. I love it you say things that are funny to me, but it's extremely true.
Starting point is 01:57:27 It's extremely true. What's funny about going to a Vietnamese coffee shop? Just you say. that and me picturing you going to a Vietnamese coffee shop is just hilarious in my mind it's funny what do you think I just picture you in like these like little chairs and then like little Asian lady comes and serves you and you like sit down it's like a little tiny thing and everyone's looking at you like what the fuck this guy doing here that's what I picture well that's probably when I first started going there did people look but now they're like oh he's bad they used to me
Starting point is 01:57:50 but what you what kind of coffee shop you think it is when I say Vietnamese coffee shop you think it's just a place where sophisticated people go and have tea and coffee no just like a bunch of Vietnamese people are like chilling like I don't know buying boba and shit that's what I'm picturing you never been to Vietnamese coffee shop no not specifically I love Vietnamese food though oh yeah stuff like that yeah so Vietnamese coffee shop it's a coffee shop where for me I feel like I'm walking into Vietnam you can smoke cigarettes you people smoking cigarettes in there what yeah and girls are serving you all different type of drinks coffee and stuff naked or half naked where's that at it's in Cali yeah Orange County and and and and
Starting point is 01:58:30 San Jose, the only two places I know to have it. Huh. You're regular there, huh? Hell, yeah. It's my office. I have meetings there and everything. God. This is low overhead.
Starting point is 01:58:40 You just pay five bucks for a damn coffee. Damn, I need to come. I got to come wrestle you and we'll go to a coffee shop. Bro, it's a different experience. And the girls are cool. They're nice. Well, how do they have naked? What are they wearing?
Starting point is 01:58:52 Anime outfit? No, thongs and bikinis. Whoa, what? And sometimes they walk around. No, you're lying. You're lying. That's a lie. I'm not. Stop. Stop. That's not.
Starting point is 01:59:03 You're funny. You're good straight face. It's good. You're doing good. They're not walking around naked, dude. Yeah. That's not happening. That might be in your mind. You're like picturing that happening. I see, but that's not. I see, I see Cooter and Tudors. No. Real time. You're lying. I'm telling the truth, bro. No. I'm telling the truth. No. No. Okay. Shut the fuck on all my kids. They're naked. What are you talking about? What the fuck is this? It's a coffee shop. That doesn't sound like a coffee shop. It's a strip club.
Starting point is 01:59:30 where they serve coffee. It's not a strip club, but you, but some, some thoughts that do give lap dances. Bro, you're in a strip club ordering coffee,
Starting point is 01:59:38 dude. It's not a strip club. Stop it. It's not a strip club. It's a Vietnamese coffee. It's a coffee shop. It's a coffee shop. It'd be like,
Starting point is 01:59:44 now I'm like, you order, you, you have meetings and strip clubs. I'm like, I don't know what to think. If you're the right people, I was like,
Starting point is 01:59:50 I'll come meet the coffee shop. But they don't walk around naked all the time, but certain times that make sure just when the song turns on. No, no, it's just make sure
Starting point is 02:00:00 They walk, I'm serious. What's the name of this place? I'm not going to do that because police might be watching. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to do it, but it's coffee. Is this a real off camera? I'm going to ask you about this.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Yeah, it's real tough. But it's, it's in Orange County. It's hundreds of coffee shops and some of, some of them do naked stuff or topless. You're being sincere. I'm being sincere. Wow. That's crazy. Most of them do topless.
Starting point is 02:00:22 And there was a couple of them. What the fuck? Yeah, but I don't go there for that. Right. I go there for the coffee. It's the best coffee. Yeah. the best coffee.
Starting point is 02:00:30 I'm serious. Vietnamese coffee is really good. No, it is good. I order the saddye. Well, he's a nut. You're funny.
Starting point is 02:00:37 You know what I like it about you? You're super straightforward. Yeah. That's the best. I keep it real, brother. Yeah. So you're good on podcasts
Starting point is 02:00:43 because you just tell the, you just say it. But don't everybody, don't everybody keep it. No, no, bro. I don't watch podcasts, so teach me about this.
Starting point is 02:00:50 I mean, a lot of people, like, just the internet vibe in general, people say a lot of what people like think they want them to say. Or like, you could tell you can have conversation with people sometimes where they'll, they'll, like, go around things because they don't want to
Starting point is 02:01:03 specifically answer the thing, like, head, you know, head to head. Oh, yeah. If I don't want to answer something, I just, I just... Yeah, you told me that. You were like, yeah, if I'm not going to answer. I'm just going to tell you, hey, I'm not going to answer. Yeah, I'm not going to change the subject. But you know, for years, people were asking me to do a podcast.
Starting point is 02:01:15 I'm like, I don't want to do a podcast. I didn't want to do a podcast. I didn't want to do a podcast. You know, Joe Rogan, he hit the... Yeah, he's the go. And then I, you know, I did a podcast with my sponsor, Jackson. I said, come on, let's just do an MMA podcast. I'm like, fuck, okay, I do it.
Starting point is 02:01:30 And that's going up right away. And people are like, oh, man, you should have been doing this years ago. And I was like, I just didn't want to do it. So I felt like too many people are doing it. You don't think it's over-saturated something. Yeah, but yeah, but too many people are doing it, but like not everyone's good, you know. You're actually good at it for sure.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Yeah, my problem is, though, that I haven't been watching a lot of MMA. And so we get a few fighters on there that the news, or fighters, even though they've been fighting for a while, I don't know who they are, and I feel kind of bad because I don't know, I don't know them. So we sitting there interviewing them and we're talking to him and I'm like, I don't have no idea. Yeah, you just got to spend a little time and do some research prior. That's what, that's what my problem is.
Starting point is 02:02:10 I'm lazy. I don't, I don't want to do no research. Video games, man. I just want to play video games. Bro, I'm writing a book right now and I got a proofread the shit and the guy's hit me up and I feel bad because I was supposed to read it on an airplane and stuff like that. You on that bitch, I'm here. I'm sitting at home playing video games.
Starting point is 02:02:26 And I'm supposed to be reading this because, you know, I don't know how to write the book. Yeah, yeah. So I'm doing an interview with him telling so I can write my autobiography. And I can't even do that. I need to put the video games down. Yeah. And read the hero. Because the guy's a great writer, but I want the book to read like in my voice.
Starting point is 02:02:45 I understand. And he's too smart saying big words. And I can't even pronounce all these goddamn words. So ain't anybody going to read this book and think it's. It's you, yeah. Yeah. You're funny, man. What's this logo?
Starting point is 02:02:57 I see it on your hand and on your shirt. This is my brand. It's raw gear. What is it? Yeah, raw gear. It's a clothing company. Raw gear? Raw gear, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:04 Oh, yeah. So what was over there word raw? Okay, now I'm seeing it now. Yeah, yeah, it's everywhere. So what's, tell me about that. What's raw gear? So originally I had started out selling clothing and it was just kind of what I liked, right? It was just like things that I wore.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Everything I'm wearing is that. And when I rebranded it to involve more people like influence, within the industry, I had to think really deeply about why I was transitioning to this and what this meant to me, right? When I was selling my original stuff, it was being figure again, it was just me, some stuff I liked, the people who were buying it when I would see them at Expos, because I would show up to Expos, I had these big lines, and I take all these photos, and people would tell me, yo, I watched this video, you're talking about your father, because my father passed away when I was young, and I would share all these experiences in my life, and I was looking
Starting point is 02:03:53 back and reflecting on that and being like the reason why all these people were buying my at the time before i had transitioned it to raw gear was because i was being raw i was being vulnerable i was being genuine i was just telling the truth i was saying this is what i experienced this is this is what i learned from it this is who i am and people were taking that and then it would come to me wearing all my like oh they're supporting me because i'm just telling the truth and they're they're getting this sort of value out of it that like i wasn't trying to create value i was just saying this is what i think this is what i feel this where i've been and then those were always the people who are buying my stuff. So when I transitioned it to rebrand it, because I wanted to get more people
Starting point is 02:04:28 involved in the company, I had to think of a name that I thought sounded cool that was representative of what I was doing and it was representative of why I was being supported in the first place. And then this logo came about because I had a really, a really well-known designer's name is Jason Maiden, one of the, one of the goats of like the design industry work with like Jordan did all these shoes and did a ton of stuff. And he asked me like, well, what are like some of the things that are important to you in your life. And you thought of it was going raw. Well, yeah, I mean, yes.
Starting point is 02:05:00 But also, I had to think of what did this represent to me? Like, what did it mean to me? Like being vulnerable, being raw, being genuine. And then these four, this logo here, right? You see the four diamonds? Yeah. I like the shape. I like the way they look.
Starting point is 02:05:12 I thought it looked cool. And each one represents something that's significant to me. And I'll tell you what they are. So obviously, and this is about personal development. Okay. So I thought in personal development, you had to do something every day or within your life where you're focused on your mind, where you're trying to challenge yourself, whether it's like learning or reading a book or trying to expand your sort of thought on something, right?
Starting point is 02:05:35 And then your body, when you're picking a physical task that like whether you want to be better at bodybuilding or fighting or jiu-jitsu or whatever it is, right? And then the other two are a little more abstract and a little more personal to me. the other one is your soul and your soul to me and tapping in with that is like trying to connect to the thing that is kind of how do I how do I explain it um a little more like personal in your purpose and like you know how you go throughout your life and you you find out okay this is really important to me and this is my purpose and this is this where I feel good and then it kind of evolves and it kind of changes with what you're doing but i think that's something if
Starting point is 02:06:19 you tap in with yourself on that then you're you're allowing yourself to really find success because you're doing things that are really true to you in your heart you're in your you know what i'm saying yeah um and then your soul it's in the relationship to everything else like how how am i like showing up in life and how am i how am i tapping it with other people in my life and am i creating like strong bonds and so all those things are important essentially in in personal development so i put that into this logo. Oh, that's deep. And then, yeah, and then relationship to everything else is, you know, being raw, being vulnerable, being genuine. Because in order to have any sort of success in relationship or business or life, you have to be able to do that. And I, as I was
Starting point is 02:06:58 saying, I liked about you is that you, you obviously you have tons of success for tons of different reasons. But at least in the podcast thing, when I'm just talking to you about this, you'll continue to have success because you're just raw. Like, you're just, this is me. When you're, when you say, like, you always keep it 100. Like, that's exactly, that's the epitome of that. So it's just making, I just wanted something that sounded cool and then had meaning to it. It wasn't just like, yo, buy my shit. Well, that's deep. I think the, the only reason why I, I feel like, I feel like I'm a true Miffian. Memphian? Yeah, I come from Memphis. I'm from Memphis, Tennessee. They call them Mephians?
Starting point is 02:07:30 Yeah, I think that's what we called. And, um, and my culture, um, I could be wrong. It's just the way I was, where I was raised. I was raised by this family that live across the street from us and like this one guy I don't want to say his name because we we fell out years later but he kind of took me on his wing and yeah and he kind of like taught me like how the streets work and stuff like that and so I and the way I learned I learn how to not be like somebody so I learn how to not be like him because he's like a wannabe pimp and he was like a drug dealer and told me how to sell drugs at a young age and stuff like that because he was really smart he put the drugs on me and the guns and stuff on me so when the police come
Starting point is 02:08:13 they wouldn't they wouldn't like search me and stuff like that yeah so he was really smart like that so i i saw how he was he was he was he was real and stuff like that but he was kind of shaded in a certain way so miffians we're supposed to we're supposed to be keep we supposed to keep you real and and even though everybody in memphis don't do it but i i feel like a true miffian he's supposed to be a certain way he's supposed to keep you real you know we have swag and we like the type of guy like you're not supposed to be a player hater you're not supposed to like say say if I got a I got a girl and she and she's like my kind of like my girl like my girlfriend and you liked her you you hit on her right in
Starting point is 02:08:52 front of me I'm not supposed to say nothing she if I say in Memphis culture if I say something I'm play a Hayden and it's my girl wow so she got to tell you she got to be like yeah I'm taking yeah I'm taking she got to tell you and if she don't and if she don't tell you then it's between me and her it's not it's not it's not like on it's not on me and you and like but if you if she tells you like look I'm not interested and you keep talking then I say like well she already chose you know what I said she chose me so going about to bed and that's and that's a true Miffian and that's and that's that's how I am and one of the main thing that that shows like you can't see all the
Starting point is 02:09:25 other parts of me you can see that I keep it real and then and I just seen so many shaded people and so many people that's faking and stuff and I just I just can't stand that so I just choose just to keep it real I try my best not to lie and my stuff because I feel like if you lied, you got to remember the lie. Yeah. And my memory is the worst. Like, I forgot all about today. Like, when you, I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:09:46 Yeah, yeah. I was already on my way doing something else. You texted me at the right time. Yeah. She did. She's great. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:09:53 Yeah. Oh, okay. Oh, stop. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:09:59 No, she's great, dude. I got a nice little accent. What's she from? Oh, my God. You don't even. No, she's from Detroit, Chicago. Chicago. That's a Chicago accent?
Starting point is 02:10:13 No way. It's from Chicago. I thought that was from another country. Yeah, see. I know my, I know they were no Chicago accent. But anyway, what I was saying about your colon, that's deep. But, you know, a simple mind would think that you were talking about raw, like going raw, and I was going to ask you about, you know, about the raw part.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Like, do I use a condom? If you, like, no, no, no. They're not in my business. Okay. I want to know, though, is you go back to you dating a porn star. Would you go raw into the porn star? I can, I mean, nah. So you, no, but you date, you said you were dating.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Well, if, if we, if she got tested as we're all good, yeah. So I just want to say, we were talking about hot assistants. I used to have a pretty hot assistant. I did. And she was my friend. She was my, you know, I used to own a gym, and she was teaching yoga at my gym. And we would become friends. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:01 And over the years, we got closer. And she would help me out sometimes. She became my assistant when, when she needed, like, helpful stuff and she's like oh let me help you out because my schedule and then my memory's bad so she helped me out a lot with that yeah her father passed away unfortunately and i become more like her father figure and but i feel like i failed her because i didn't want to tell her what to do but she was like asking me for advice and stuff like that but long story short you know times it really got really hard for her and me helping her out with a sense it wasn't enough for what she needed
Starting point is 02:11:29 she needed more money so she started doing only fans and i was like look your father's not going to like that you only do this it's going to be hard for you to get married i try to tell all the father the advice like because I knew her dad her dad was a cool guy and stuff like that and I try to be like a father figure out of this stuff and then doing on fans she started doing porn oh shit and she told me that she had herpes oh she told me she had herpes years before I've been known this for years that she had herpes because I was close with her you know she told me everything like my friends tell me I would never say her name yeah but only only if some of my close friends watch they're going to know but you know whatever she's not my friend
Starting point is 02:12:05 but, you know, she knew I keep it real. I'm not going to say her name, but then I said, how are you going to do porn and you got herpes? And she was like, oh, that's the only one that don't care about in porn. Like, almost all porn stars got herpes. What? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:12:19 Yeah, it's like, it's coming. They say, she says she just can't work when she has an outbreak. Oh, so you're trying to give me that advice. You give me that fondly advice. Give me that fondly advice. Make different choices. Yes, yeah, make different.
Starting point is 02:12:30 The guys out there, man, stay away from the damn porn stars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the porn stars. I had a few times, I almost fell a week. One time, a porn star in Japan got at me. I remember I was fighting in Japan, and while I was fighting, bro, front row. I saw the most beautiful Japanese girl I was seen in my life at that time. Sitting front row out of your fight. She's sitting front row in my fight.
Starting point is 02:12:51 And I was fighting, kicking this dude's ass. I looked like, God, dang. No, shut the fuck up. Real talk. No. Real talk. There's real talk, bro. I never forget the way she looked, bro.
Starting point is 02:13:01 She had like a real beautiful face, and she had like the makeup. and she had, like, the makeup coming from the inside of eyes and stuff like that. And I never seen a girl wear makeup like that. She had, like, real boobs. I mean, big boobs, I think they look real, right? And you don't really see that often in Japan. It's, like, 20 years ago, almost.
Starting point is 02:13:17 And you don't really see that. And I'm like, God damn. And then I beat the dudes out, stuff. Now I'm backstage. In Pride, they have, like, parties right after the fight. Yeah, yeah. They have after parties. As soon as you're going on.
Starting point is 02:13:29 And as soon as your fight over, if you're not the main event, you back there eating and drinking beer and stuff like they're hanging out. and the fans that brought the front row tickets, the VIP fans, they can come back there and kick it with the fighters. So she was with some older dude,
Starting point is 02:13:40 and I thought that was a boyfriend. I didn't think I'd know. And she came back there in the back, and after party, and she was talking, and she spoke a little English just a little bit. I was like, damn, you, damn, you hot. I did my, I did my first thing I learned in Japanese.
Starting point is 02:13:58 Do you like that? And she said, hi, ski, I like. And so I'm talking to her. I get a phone like that. I didn't know nothing about it. And then my friend, one of my best friends at the time, he's from, he's Taiwanese, but he's American. He watched a lot of porn.
Starting point is 02:14:13 This guy was weird. He even knew male porn star's name. He knew everybody. Yeah, he came up to me and he knew him to me. He knew me. He knew I don't like porn star. He said, bro, you know, she's a porn star. I said, shut the fuck.
Starting point is 02:14:25 No way. He said, bro, she's a porn star. I didn't believe me at first. I thought he was hating on me because I'm finding to get a number from his like you. Then, you know, sure enough, I'm drinking a little around, and this fighter, Gary Goodrich. I don't know if you know him. He's like real popular in Japan.
Starting point is 02:14:38 He's got her tithes out playing with her tithes. In front of everybody, I'm like, oh, man, I just got this damn phone number and this other dude playing with her motherfucking titties in front of everybody. I said, what the fuck? And then. You said, fuck it at that one? I said, no, he showed me, he showed me a video. He said, he said, you still you want?
Starting point is 02:14:53 I said, man, I was, I was spending a far week because there was a hot as Japanese grabs him. So you almost said, and then, because I had already had a number and dude playing with tithes, but I was like, man, after my fights, I'm all testosterone run up. girlfriend and stuff. Yeah, I wanted to smash. After my fights, I like to smash. Yeah, I guess you.
Starting point is 02:15:08 And he showed me a video of her doing booth. You're just like, no, I can't. No, bro, it's the grossest video I've seen. Like, she smashed a bunch of dudes and they all came her hand and she was slurping and shit. What? Yeah, I was like, no. Oh, that's like, yeah. And then she called me and she, because I stood out, ghosted her.
Starting point is 02:15:23 Wait, that's like a weird porn, though. That's like a lot of people. Japanese's got some weird porn. She did some weird shit. And I guess it was at the end. He just showed me that clip because he was saving me because he know I don't like porn. He showed me the worst clip he can actually show me to tell me because I almost fell weak when he told me some porn star I was like yeah I'm still going to do it but if you see that
Starting point is 02:15:40 clip though no I was like no because they like the kiss and shit I ain't with all that shit yeah I'm a dream freak I ain't I knew she was gonna want to kiss and all this shit and I ain't feeling to be slurping on other dudes kids hell no she had like she had multiple kids in her hands slurping them though different flavors then she called me that night she's all man like you know because I flake I was supposed to meet up with her yeah I Like, no, you're a porn. Did you ever tell her why? Well, she got mad angry with me.
Starting point is 02:16:05 I said, no, you do porn. I didn't know you do porn. I saw you slurping on. Oh, you said that shit? I told her that shit. Damn. She hung up the phone. I never heard from her again.
Starting point is 02:16:14 I believe that. I'm fucking numb. Smart. So be careful with them. They all, I heard, I heard, I, I, allegedly. Allegedly. Most porn stars, they don't care about herpes. They have herpes.
Starting point is 02:16:25 I'm avoiding them then. Yeah, yeah. Don't be, no porn star. No, we're done. You can get, you, you, are you famous? You're rich. you get in a girl you want bro you like you have value you don't got to yeah stupid your love for i appreciate that for for porn stars what was that why you never dated your assistant
Starting point is 02:16:39 what she's a great assistant you don't want to mess that up i would never want to mess she's phenomenal i mean she's like i've had assistants in the past that's not not good she's really good bro you're smart too because most guys they they they don't they i don't my assistants either like that no they're stupid they're stupid because they know too much and oh my god you just you just don't want you just don't want to cross with you find when you find someone good bro it's like I've had so many bad situations where how did you find it is you like hit on it first
Starting point is 02:17:06 and then because she's very beautiful she's stunning like no damn you're like really risen it right no I'm not risen I'm talking to you yeah I know but she's there she's right there bro I keep I read it with I just how I do no what you want me to say what are you find she's ugly no no she's she's amazing so no I it was just a job listening
Starting point is 02:17:23 she just found a job but it was like interesting how it all kind of worked yeah I thought I thought that you know because you big time And, like, you met her out and say, hey, you know, blah, and did she kind of, like, no, I put a job, because I'm big time, I put a job list, you know. I was like, someone else figured that out. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Yeah. Okay, I'm learning how to do it. That's how you, that's the most professional way to do things. Yeah. Yeah, because then you also, like, if it doesn't work out, it's less like, oh, I thought maybe you would have got me somehow regardless type thing versus like someone else is kind of doing the listing for you, then there's that degree of separation.
Starting point is 02:17:53 It's always kind of easier. Do you have, if you want to fire your employee, do you have someone that's fire up? Yeah. You don't fire a person. someone else fired someone you never you never you never got mad enough at the old assistant and said look you fire get the fuck out of it i had someone else fire him who you got another employee that fired another employee that did other kind of like operational stuff that would fire the person so
Starting point is 02:18:14 who would fire that that employee if they got if they got i would in that case i'd probably had someone coming in already that was going to be the replacement and you have that person you have a problem with actually firing people no it's just you know why why why why why why why why do that. I'm just saying that. No, if I had to do it, I'll be like, you're fine. You're done. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:33 But I think, you know why. I know why I did this because in this, in this industry, um, having that degree of separation is great because a lot of times people feel like entitled or they feel like some sort of way. And then if it's like directly from you, maybe they feel a little bit more like attacked or like not, not appreciate it. So then in their mind, they're like, next to you know, they want to get on the internet and be like, this person is not good guy.
Starting point is 02:18:58 And it's like, it's because you just do a good job. But like, yeah, go ahead with that. So I think having that degree of separation allows you like a buffer. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I have a hard time like firing people in the past and stuff as well. I had people working for me and stuff. My bigger issue in the past was like letting, letting situations go on for longer
Starting point is 02:19:16 that I knew I should have been like, yo, we need to replace you or you need to be out of here sooner. Bro, I had a manager like that. And then I would lose so much money. Bro, I had a manager like that. And every time I got close to firing his mom, he was like, son. Pull on my heart. Hey, son, this, that, you know, I mean, well, this. It just pull on your hard strings, bro.
Starting point is 02:19:34 I hate that. Went on for too long and end up. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah, I know. You'd be really detrimental. Yeah, yeah. And it's tough because, like, it's, it's, you build these relationships with people,
Starting point is 02:19:44 but ultimately, it's like, it's still money-based. Like, I can't, it's like, if you're not doing the things, then it's affecting you and me ultimately. I got a new sand now. I got to fire something. Look, I stand on business. I like that, I like that, I like that. Who made that popular?
Starting point is 02:19:57 I don't know. know who made that you know what i go back you hear it i hear it in like a rap song it's just very well drake said it recently but it was being said before that yeah it was being said for a while you know it takes slang a while to catch on sometime yeah just like just like um that that term eating the groceries i that that's that foppa and just just ran with it oh the you're talking about like eating a girl out no that's not what that means eating the groceries you don't know what that means what's eating the groceries what does that mean Oh, your sister knows that means.
Starting point is 02:20:29 What is it mean? You don't know what that means. Go ahead. We're going to change the service. You don't know what eating the groceries. Go ahead. Tell me what it means. It's like eating the girl's ass.
Starting point is 02:20:37 Oh, I said eating a girl out. You said eating a girl. But you mean. Where eating out. So there's a song. It was a song that came out. And a girl, she was hot as shit. You can't sing her ass out.
Starting point is 02:20:47 And she said, like, another dude can't come close to me or something unless he eat the booty like groceries. Oh, that's Jenna Eiko, I think. I came around. Yeah. But then that's that song, that, that's, that's, and caught on right after that song. After that song went popular.
Starting point is 02:21:02 That's saying that everybody used to say tossing salad until she's saying that. Now everybody's saying eating the groceries. I see. So I can't believe you didn't know what that. I feel like, yeah, I should have known. I feel like music normally is like dictating those sort of trans.
Starting point is 02:21:14 That's what it's slang. But now it's like a lot of social media people are creating like Kai Sinatz. What did he say? I think in my Senate on business, he definitely said that a lot. Oh, yeah. There's a few things people say that just catch us on
Starting point is 02:21:24 and then everyone says. That kid is probably. Have you ever had them on your show? I did the full send podcast with him on it. So we did, I did interview him. Becky is famous as, famous as,
Starting point is 02:21:34 yeah. Streaming is just, you know, at that top level is insane. Let me be, let me be ignorant here. I streamed on Twitch alone. I started streaming on Twitch years ago.
Starting point is 02:21:46 And one of my buddies got me into it that I played video games where he told me to start streaming because I like laugh and joking around. I've been streaming on Connect. I was streaming, I started streaming on Connect. And I streamed,
Starting point is 02:21:58 for a little bit, but I never, it never went out. It never took off and never got popular. I'm, please forgive me, I'm going to be ignorant. I thought, like, oh, I just don't think a lot of black people for stream, and black people don't support streamers. Like, they don't want to, because it's free to watch, but to a sub and where you can make money and donations, you just don't see, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 02:22:18 a lot of black people supporting. Yeah. But then I was like, oh, okay, this is cool, it's fun. I got people to play video games with now, so I'm not alone playing video games. I got a crew of people I can play video games with. Yeah. And then I say black people probably never make it.
Starting point is 02:22:32 Because all the top streams I saw when I started paying attention, it was all others. Yeah, yeah. Because people support other people. But is this, you know, from my experience, most black people don't support anybody that is going to cost them money. Even within their own community? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:48 If it's going to directly cost them money, even $3, $4 a month, I doesn't feel like a lot of black people. Because I can say that because I don't up to nobody that I'm black you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:23:00 I saw up to like some of my friends but it was like I didn't really want to you know because I did because they sub you know why do you think that is
Starting point is 02:23:09 I don't know man we're weird like that I don't I don't I don't fucking know man so I just felt like oh damn when I heard this guy a black guy he's the number one street
Starting point is 02:23:16 yeah this is crazy man he beat the he passed the record of the most subs ever I think killing it that's yeah
Starting point is 02:23:23 killing it I see he had like he had like a what who had like Cardi B or something out there he's had yeah all of them I don't know Cardi B uh Nicki Minaj oh yeah Nicky Minaj he's he's had everyone on he has spider man's girlfriend on there yeah he whatever name is uh I don't know that was fake she was on there though but that wasn't actually her no that was that was she looked at her that was a that was a lookalike shut where bro she looked just like damn he got your ass well I saw it on a on a
Starting point is 02:23:52 TikTok though right yeah I assume that was fake That was fake. Yeah, yeah. But, like, he's had tons of, I mean, he's like. I've seen, like, some of the amigos on there. Yeah, he's had everyone from all the music. Because, like, also, that's kind of, like, transition. And I think Aiden Ross is one of the first people doing this.
Starting point is 02:24:09 Yeah. But it's like the new platform for artists that's almost, like, promote their music. Oh, yeah. That's smart. And so, you know, he's the guy right now, and, like, really the guy right now. Oh, so that's smart. That's smart. Have you met Aiden Ross?
Starting point is 02:24:23 Yeah. Yeah, I did an interview with him, too. Yeah, he's really cool. really cool yeah i've seen i've seen um he's funny man he's funny yeah he just don't give he don't give him yeah i seen some i seen some i seen some of his stuff i i most i see it on the clips on ticot what are the streamers you see so you obviously kai aiden and that little nerdy kid neon oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i think he's funny yeah yeah he's coming he's coming uh saturday to the grand opening oh okay well this will be past when we post this but
Starting point is 02:24:52 okay last saturday he'll been there you can come if you want it's saturday What is it? It's the one-year anniversary, not grand opening. It's the one-year anniversary for my gym's been open for a year. The gym's been open for eight years, but this is the one year in the new location. Where is that? It's in here. It's not just so.
Starting point is 02:25:07 That's the old gym. It's on Ventura Boulevard and Encino. Can I bring my coach the one you thinks on steroids? 100%. And you can look at me in person and I'd love to see him. Yeah. You can ask him questions and stuff. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 02:25:18 I'd love that. It's going to be a lot of people there. It'll be fun. All right. All right. You see, you know, you've seen Steve will do it. Steve will do it. the guy I filmed video with
Starting point is 02:25:27 tons of videos with him I'll probably seen him he'd be there going live I got to see his face I got to see his face yeah I think neon will be live too it'll be crazy alright I come through
Starting point is 02:25:36 I ain't gonna lift no weights though that's fine we got a mat section on the left okay I could guess yeah dude it was a pleasure having you man thank you
Starting point is 02:25:45 thank you for coming up here and spending the time because I know it was like two hour no actually actually bro it wasn't that bad it's gonna be worse going back because of the traffic but honestly it wasn't that bad
Starting point is 02:25:54 yeah I thought it was gonna be I thought it's going to be two hours. So just so everyone knows, too, where all can they find you? You're on every platform. You've got the podcast with Bear. Yeah, yeah. Bear's a good friend of mine, too, by the way. My brother's a shit, man.
Starting point is 02:26:07 Yeah. Man, I ain't worried about people finding me, man. They want to find me. They find me. My social media is for true Rampage fans. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, I don't give a fuck, man. I respect it.
Starting point is 02:26:15 Yeah. Cool. It's whatever. It's whatever. Right on. Well, listen, every Tuesday, 11, I appreciate the love guys. Thank you for coming, man. I think you should, you know, keep doing the podcast.
Starting point is 02:26:25 Oh, yeah. Oh, if at one point have your own even, I don't even know, bro. You crushed it. It's better, honestly, like, I'm not going to like, because I have another podcast with a friend of mine, Sarah. And a different dynamic. It is probably oftentimes better with more than one person. For real.
Starting point is 02:26:39 Because, like, otherwise, you always rely on a guest because, like, you know. Yeah, because what if they, like, dry? Yeah, that happens. And, you know, you make it something better. And sometimes I offend people because I like to joke. And if the joke is there, even if it's on them or me, I make fun of myself. And I make fun of them.
Starting point is 02:26:55 Some people can't take it, but you know. You've got to kind of read the room. I just mean not even so much that part of it. Just like literally like scheduling can get crazy. Yeah, that too. I had an old M.MA fighter on my podcast yesterday. His name was Cairo-Crejan, the heat. He's the first Armenian fighter in the UFC.
Starting point is 02:27:13 And he was like the first fighter to bring judo, right? He's like a real serious dude. But he's funny. He's got a personality, right? And I've been knowing him for years and I'm always been joking around with him and stuff. and he brought up his sister he talked about his sister oh you got a sister how she looked
Starting point is 02:27:28 and bro he got man I thought we about to fight so yeah I got to read the room sometimes I was like I was like bro I said bro I had to come and down he said he said man why are you talking about my sister she's married man what the fuck my sister out of it is and I look in his eyes he was serious he was serious he was on the fight because honestly he's a small guy to me but when we trained together back in the day he would get the best of me
Starting point is 02:27:48 with he was really good with the judo and stuff like that like the hands oh yeah we've just straight hands, he couldn't fucking me, but we're wrestling around, stuff like that, he's tough. He would get the best of me. So he still remembers that because, like I said, he's like, he's like, mother. He's like, you remember I just whoop your ass? I'm like, oh, yeah, and wrestling? Like, not in the fight, but, you know,
Starting point is 02:28:06 you can't back down, right? So we almost, it was like a, for, I'd be like, I had to remind. Like, look, bro, we're friends, bro. I, I'm, I never changed. And he said, well, well, I'm, I want to say nothing about this, so I wouldn't ever try to do it. I'm like, you wouldn't want to a fattest. Is that out of the internet somewhere?
Starting point is 02:28:21 We just did it yesterday. Oh, I got to see that. Yeah, you didn't cut that out. No, no, I don't think they're going to edit it out. Yeah, don't cut that out. No, no, but thank you, man. Well, yeah, one more, one more. He's got me thinking about the fighting thing real quick.
Starting point is 02:28:32 What do you think about Connor McGregor's return? He's going to come back and fight Chandler? Chandler and MMM? I thought he was trying to fight like Packay. I heard Packeye was fighting a flame of Floyd Maywell. But apparently he's coming back at like 180 something. I'm a fan of Conan McGregor. Conne McGregor has turned this sport.
Starting point is 02:28:51 over and I met him in Saudi Arabia and I didn't want to bother him and he was like a genuine straight up guy you know even though I've been around before him I'm a fan of heels that's the impact that he has on that sport huge yeah huge impact and I would love to see colonel and Gary come back and entertain us and stuff like that but he has like coming off an injury a rearback injury he's coming back he haven't he haven't had a fight since then so what I know about the psyche of fighting is fighting is 95% mental and you got to have like a really strong mind to come back off of injury and a long layoff to fight somebody like Chandler yeah you understand so what the UFC don't believe in but what's is very important is
Starting point is 02:29:30 warm-up fights so if I'm a fan of somebody I'm gonna keep it real I think I think I think Connor McGregor should come back and do a warm-up fight with somebody that's a lesser opponent just to get they get your to get your mind back right and then fight Chandler or something so tough for him because like he's such a massive draw that it's like, who is he supposed to fight? Yeah, but there's a warm-up. Because it's also, I understand your point, but it's also his first fight back,
Starting point is 02:29:59 so there's so much attention. It's like, how could it be someone who's not kind of? Bro, it's ego in play because he ain't going to want to, if the UFC offered him somebody, he ain't going to want to say, like, no, I don't want to fight him because then he's out there, like he'd turn down to fight. Yeah, I feel like he'd fight anyone. Right, he'll fight anyone.
Starting point is 02:30:12 And it's ego and it's also like the dedication to heart that you have, like we believe in ourselves. But me being as experienced as I, am in this sport and what I know about sports in general that really it is 95% mental everything is our mind is the most strongest thing in this world like if you don't believe that that's your own problem I believe that and you you're going to he's going to need a woman fight so if he don't have to do a woman fight in the UFC really if he knows what I'm talking about he can pay a guy to come to the mother gym like a good guy he got enough money yeah he's worth hundreds of millions yeah he can pay a
Starting point is 02:30:51 guy 40 or 50,000, $200,000, he could pay a million dollars that's going to make him more money to come to the gym get real work and do a real fight and want you need he need that you're going to need a warm-a-fight is for your psyche but the UFC don't believe in it like when I used to fight and pride and I come back off injury or something like that I told him like yeah I'll come back but give me a warm-up fight and that they'll do it because in Japan it was different is for entertainment so they didn't care if you won a loss Even the fans. They didn't care of you, one allows the promotion.
Starting point is 02:31:24 It was not in your contract. If you lose two fights and one, they can kick you in the UFC, you lose two fights. They have the option to kicking you out. Back in the day, I don't know what the contracts looked like now. Right. But in pride, they didn't give. So as long as you fought hard,
Starting point is 02:31:36 you fought with, you know, excitement and you really tried to fight, it wasn't a boring fight. You know, they loved you. So I had warm up fights and they work well for me. You don't think Connor's done something kind of like that, though? I don't know much about this training and stuff like that, but I think a lot of people, they don't, they don't think like that. They don't, they don't have, like, little hidden warm-up fights.
Starting point is 02:31:57 Because especially if you don't want to do it in the UFC, I understand. Like, I did mine in front of everybody. I see what you're saying. Yeah, like, he has enough, he has enough resources and just do it and come fight. Yeah, he knows, say he knows he's going to fight Chandler and six months old. Hopefully you watch this, listen to this, it just does it. Right, right. Have you heard him on yet?
Starting point is 02:32:15 No, I'd love to. That guy blocked me on Instagram. Why? You say something bad to him? Never. Never. It's like that, bro. I got blocked by Fib, and I never even knew him.
Starting point is 02:32:26 I'm blocked by Kabib. What the fuck? I never even knew him. I met him in Japan recently, not this last trip, but the trip before, and I was kind of salty. He said it was all, like, I was up. I wasn't, because my fuck I mean. But I think that I'm probably like a little bit too spicy,
Starting point is 02:32:39 and he's very religious. That's why I can do a little bit. Or maybe his management, maybe he don't run his own page. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking that too. Maybe whoever run their page don't like you, because I don't see Colin McGreg and run his own page. Yeah. When you get to that level,
Starting point is 02:32:50 You know, I don't know. Do you run your own page? Yeah, yeah, I do. But I like, but I'm, I'm a social media person, right? Like, I built, like, my following through the internet. How you build your following? Bro, just being strong and doing cool athletic. And then looking good, I guess, while doing it.
Starting point is 02:33:07 And then lifting girls. Because, like, I, I've done the internet since 2011. So, like, when Instagram first came out, I'm doing this. And I just like a guy with abs who looks good. And then the video comes out. And, like, now I'm jumping out. of pools like four and a half foot pools and they're like wow that's crazy he looks like this and can do that and then i'm lifting heavy weights and like oh he can do all this stuff and then
Starting point is 02:33:28 that transitions to like you know tutorial teaching stuff that i'm doing on youtube but then i start doing a lot of like wild like visual shit or like besides jumping out of pools i'm like lifting weights crazy like pulling my truck doing crazy lifts squatted on a hoverboard with like 315 done a bunch of weird that's why i could be chewing a street fight basically is i was gonna say right no i i grew up because like people like they they see and they're like you know i don't again, I'm not just directly saying that, but I think people think like I'm some big bodybuilder, but like, that's not at all
Starting point is 02:33:57 what I'm done. But you're saying you're saying you really could fight though? I believe so, yeah. And I think so based on what you said earlier about that confidence in the mindset, like I just have that regardless. Because I've done that and I've applied that to everything else in my life. I'm not saying that like I could just beat a top level fighter. I don't actually believe that. Right, right, right, right. But I do believe
Starting point is 02:34:14 I can get down for sure. Do you want to fight before you? I want to, yeah. So how about you? How about you I want to fight Logan. I want to fight Logan Paul, M.M.A. He won't, but I don't think he would fight you because they have too much to lose. Yeah, that's probably true. How about you, how about you just fight some random guy? Well, because then that's the thing.
Starting point is 02:34:33 It's like, what am I doing, fighting a random guy? No, no, no, it's, bro. Why are you thinking about it? It's still a fight. Yeah. Like, you fight some, a random guy that don't have a whole lot of experience. First, you start, you know what I'm saying? It's a warm-up fight.
Starting point is 02:34:46 You start with that. Don't wear so much about what people say. Don't worry about what people say. You do it for your mind. You start with a random guy that don't have as much experience as all these guys. And then you, what do you win and lose? You judge yourself from that because you can't even learn from a loss, right? Of course.
Starting point is 02:35:03 But I think the problem with it is that because I've made such like the joke, the whole 260, like, if I lose, it's like, if I lose, it's like this guy, right away, instantly fucking this guy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but no. So that's why I'm trying to get like, and I think it's a bigger draw. I think it's a big draw where it's like, because I've made the joke, because I've said, thing because I'm the bodybuilder, whatever, because I look this way, that it's like, people are going to want to see that fight straight off rip. And if you kind of like fuck it up off rip, then your chances of...
Starting point is 02:35:31 What if I ask my coach? He has like, what, a million some followers? What if I ask him, what if I ask him to do you want? Because he only what? Well, you think he on that. He kind of offended about it. That's why I'm going to bring him. He kind of offended about it.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Really? No, you're fucking. No, bring it regardless. What if I set up a fight between you and him? Well, see, but that's what I'm saying, like... He got a million followers? But he's not as known as you, but he got a million followers. They're real followers.
Starting point is 02:35:57 Yeah, it's tough. You'll go viral in Iran because he's Iranian. He's Persian. Yeah, I don't care of going viral there necessarily. I thought that's what you're in the guy. I don't know. Yeah, no, you asked those are probably the best audience to go viral with. Why?
Starting point is 02:36:09 Just because everyone looks to the U.S. for viral content. But you'll gain a lot of more fans in other countries. Yeah, I get that. But why you don't want to fight my coach? He's not a fighter. He's a weightlifter like you. Yeah. It's a warm-up fight.
Starting point is 02:36:21 I'd rather fight Logan Paul. You want to go right into it because Logan Paul suck and you know that. Is he? Logan Paul? Logan? You think he's a sucker? No, no. He sucks.
Starting point is 02:36:31 And fighting. Well, he's a, yeah, but he's been training longer. So he's got an upper hand. But he sucks. But he's a wrestler. He's a high school wrestler so he could beat anyone's hat. Yeah, he'll probably kick you up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:42 So there we go. He'll probably kick your ass kick by Logan Paul. Perfect. He's a great athlete because he can do pro wrestling and stuff. He's, look, I'm not denying that at all. I think he's a great athlete. I'm not talking about any of that.
Starting point is 02:36:54 But you're going to fight him in the MMA fight? I would do that, yeah. He's going to kick your ass. Okay. So why you can do a warm-up fight with my coach who can't wrestle? Why do a warm-a-fight if he's going to kick my-up? Because you get that, you get that experience. And you get a win on your belt and deal.
Starting point is 02:37:06 Who did? I just want the bag, too. Logan Paul, he just won a fight, right? He just beat Dylan dance, but Dylan dance and throw a single punch. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:37:15 You saw it. I saw that shit It was fucking bad I tweeted right there I said I'm never watching a YouTube fight again Yeah no that was really bad That was really bad
Starting point is 02:37:22 I was really bad I'm I was impressed with Logan Paul Yeah But I was disappointed And Dylan Because he represented Yeah
Starting point is 02:37:31 I was really disappointed But he also talked so much Oh much And look But you got to throw More than four punches He was going out to the guy's Fiancee's wife
Starting point is 02:37:40 He was doing everything But that's the first time I ever heard To somebody Threatening to sue something I don't know what the fuck it blew up there for a while yeah i think he's still dealing with lawsuits right now for it was i think logan was not kidding at all he's probably going to ruin that guy's life with lawsuits but but is logan still going to marry that chick though yeah 100% he
Starting point is 02:38:01 stood by it he didn't learn something from that i learned something by it hey i learned something from that would you learn right he did he was learned he had receipts but but apparently it's like some of it is bulls it some of it is photoshop some of it is like she's with people that she's working with. There's a bunch of reasons why. I don't know. I was never there. But I did see a few videos when I was like,
Starting point is 02:38:21 why the fuck she said this? But it's like, oh, no, man. Will you married girl that did a post a video? I said, I need some dick. Okay.
Starting point is 02:38:29 That's exactly the video that I'm talking about. I'm just an own-no person, because I'm learning from you. Fuck, dude. How would you feel? That's a tough one. Your girl in the past. But if I mean,
Starting point is 02:38:37 it's tough because in that circumstance, he's already in love with the girl. You know, it's... Have you ever been in love before? Yes. had I seen that video before I got deeper, I might be like, what the fuck is
Starting point is 02:38:49 and make this a problem for sure? Because knowing him and his status, rather, on the internet, like, that's going to come somehow, whether Dylan said it or someone found that video. I'd be like, yo, I don't like that, the thought of that. You know, but like, I don't know, maybe he just wasn't keen to think, like,
Starting point is 02:39:07 whoa, what's here, what could be here? And then it got to the point where, like, that guy just dug everything up. but that one video I was like damn but he did for guys like me he did make Logan Paul look kind of like a simple I'm sorry but I respect Logan for the fight
Starting point is 02:39:23 I'm a fighter I respect him for the fight and before before I get out of here I know we went too long who was that guy that Jake Paul just knocked out who was that you watch this shit yeah he just upper cut boom who was that guy it was just a boxer I never heard of that guy yeah well that's so I want to ask you that question
Starting point is 02:39:40 do you think Jake Paul's is picking his fights smartly he's picking his fights like do you think they're throwing the fights i i do i do have a feeling that some of those fights look like they was um they was thrown but i'm i'm close friend with tyron woodley and he and he assured me that um they really fought they really fought that he didn't he didn't throw their fight because me being a fighter i was kind of watching him twist the glove and his hand come down and i straight up asking about it on my podcast straight up asking about and he he kept it real he said no like he just there's something but i i i feel before he i talked to him I'm going to keep it real.
Starting point is 02:40:13 I felt like that was a signal, and the punch was real. They really knocked them out, but I don't think Tyron knew that the punch was going to knock him out, that he was going to just get hit with a good punch and flop. But then he got hit with a good punch and fell out because this is what I know. And this is why the people in Japan don't like me because I keep it real. Some of those fights in Japan was fake in the past. Not with me. A lot of times in the MMA when Japanese pro wrestler fought a real MMA fighter,
Starting point is 02:40:40 some of those fights were fixed but they still hit each other you know what I'm saying yeah they knew the outcome yeah and I don't know how many fights it's almost like him and his brother are both wrestling right because in Japan like pro you know pro wrestling is like MMA right it's not like the pro wrestling here I get it they have like a style like it looked like MMA because my second fight in Japan it was on an MMA show and how they tricked the fans that all the shit is real they threw a real fight in the middle of an pro wrestling show and I beat the shit for pro wrestling I beat the fuck out this dude yeah my second fight in japan and so from that fight if anybody was guessing
Starting point is 02:41:15 that this was like stage they was confused for the rest of the fight they thought all this real and that's how they do it and that's how they do it in japan pride some of those big japanese stars come from pro wrestling yeah and some of those fights were fake and i figured it out because one time saccaraba fought this one korean guy he and sakaraba knocked him out and i was like and i had to fight the korean guy i was like man sakarabrava knocked him out i'm gonna put this sleep, I'm gonna destroy this guy. And I couldn't knock him out. And Sakaraba, he don't hit hard.
Starting point is 02:41:44 He's fucking like pillows. So I figured out like, oh, that fuzzle fucking. Yeah, that's some crazy insight that only you would have, which is it makes that crazy. So that's why I thought that some of Jake Paul's fight was fakes, but I could be wrong, just me from going by experience. But then if we go back to the whole conspiracy theory thing we were talking about earlier, all the money that's involved, it only makes sense for it to beat.
Starting point is 02:42:02 It makes sense. I'm not saying it is. It makes sense because if he loses more, it's like, boring and their money's gone well he lost he lost to that Tommy Fury yeah and but he can't everybody still watching so I I think less people are watching though oh yeah I heard the numbers I heard the numbers I think a lot less back to this if Logan Paul don't fight you hit hit me up and and and fight my coach but if Logan Paul do fight you hit me up and I hit the train either way I'll hit you up all right okay
Starting point is 02:42:33 all right brother appreciate you man thank you for coming you crushed that shit

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