RAWTALK - Roman Atwood's Accidental Drug OD, Raising a Social media Family & The World Ending...

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

Join us with our special guest, Roman & Brittney Atwood. On this episode we learn about his accidental drug OD that sent him to the hospital, raising a family through the power of social media & conversations about Biden, Ai acceleration, UFO's and the world coming to an end.SPONSORS: MINT MOBILE: https://www.mintmobile.com/rawtalkLIQUID IV: https://www.liquidiv.com use code:rawBETTERHELP: https://www.betterhelp.com/rawtalkSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalk FOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

All right. We're on right now. Yeah, always this is how it was easy. That was fast. Yeah, remember how I told you how we do it? You had like 16 people set up in the fact.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to fit in with the community, dude. Dude, you're in it. I'm late. I'm late in the podcast game. We're late. Not really, like jump in.

I don't know if it's ever really late, you know? Don't think? Nah, because I think if you, I think there's a lot of people who do it just because they're like, oh, I just want to do it because everyone's doing it. Yeah. But I think if you add real value,

then it's not you can never be too late yeah I'm almost 40 dude yeah so I feel like podcasting is my next move that's what I'm saying like what am I gonna do yeah yeah I mean the reality is like yeah it's like at this point this sort of content is just it's teaching it's giving back it's right unless like you make a podcast it's about just like sex and random yeah that's not really my no it's not not my avenue it's not but those do well it could be educational it could be educational yeah Should we spoon on this? We could spoon here and just wrap this out.

Yeah, that'll get it going. Too many people would like that. Yeah, we get it going. It's educational. So what's up, man? Yeah, dude, I'm stoked to talk to you. You guys have like, you've been in the game for forever. Dude, it's been a while.

When you really look at it, we constantly like. Because how many years for you on YouTube? We started, what did we start posting in 2009? 2009 yeah it was 2009 that's when I made the channel probably when you made it so wait how many years that

my math is terrible it's like 14 years dude 14 years I would say safely and like we always talk about how it doesn't even feel like this lifetime

that we were back doing all that yeah doing pranks but yeah like that was a different world and then daily vlogging doesn't seem possible now

for you or just in general just in general How did we do that? Yeah. I'm always like, how did I do that? Yeah. That was one of the things that I always found so crazy. Like when I was coming up, it was like the most popular YouTube at the time would have been like Fusie 2.

You were there and then like Logan became really popular. And I was always like, how the fuck are these guys creating like this like pretty much nothing out of thin air every single day to have this like this daily vlog was different. I literally have no clue how I did it. Yeah. I don't. We think about all the time. like she would we would film like every morning you wake up when you're a daily vlogger you're at zero right by the time you go to bed you have to be at 100 meaning you've filmed all day

and you've edited I edited all my own vlogs for the majority of the time yeah and uh it was like two different lives it's like all right the vlog's done now she's getting the kids to bed they're going to bed and I'm up till 3 a.m. editing then as soon as we wake up we're back at zero did you guys ever fight you're like fuck man never just never fought we would definitely fight. You remember a fight? You remember a fight? Do you remember a fight?

Do you remember a fight? I'm not talking about boxing each other. Not like packing my bags, like leaving, but like, we would definitely fight. Yeah, it was like three years of going to bed without each other. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously sacrifice. Because you were doing editing shoes, taking care of kids.

Yeah, it was just teamwork. It was like, all right, bedtime. Now I'm going to bang this out. And yeah, we did that. What do you think the hardest part of all that was? Well, I'm lucky I did it when I was that age. it when I was that age because right now I'll tell you I'm I'm just exhausted I'm more exhausted now like it when when everyone's going to bed now I'm like yeah

I think I'm gonna go to bed but back then I was like time to edit bam just go do you think you could do it if you had someone editing your stuff like if you had someone every day like you showed up you were just filming your life yeah yeah yeah somebody was doing it all I don't know you tried to do 30 days in December I was doing it all yeah no I'm not talking about I made it 14 days I was like Yeah, well, why would you, why would you try to take up the editing? Why did you, I don't like, I, I, I started, I started filming so that I had something to edit. Like when, when you were like 12, right?

Yeah, I loved editing so much that I bought, I saved up 300 bucks, bought my first handy cam, just so that I would have content to edit. That's, that's fucking interesting. So I actually started as an editor. I really liked editing. I like, I like taking something and making something out of it, you know? You know what I'm really curious about, and I, when I really think about the early, creators who did all this and who've like amassed like crazy numbers and you know millions and millions of fellows like yourself the time that you did it it wasn't as like popular to do it you know what I'm

saying like you started on the platform at a time when like it wasn't like everyone was doing it and every single person and every industry has it's making a YouTube and social media is everything because it's everything now and everyone does and everyone like needs to have it what made you believe back then that like you could do it you wanted to do it like how did you find your way to it well i will say it was easier to stand out at that time yeah you know the things i did stood out on youtube like you said not a lot of people were doing it even though i was actually late in the vlogging world yeah uh you had the jesse wellens and the shake halls and the uh the charles trippy like you had all these like staples in vlogging and they were like

daily vloggers um but i think my like you know a It goes all the way back to like sketch comedy. Then I went to pranking. Pranking blew up and it was like rated R. I was doing everything rated R. You know, we have kids. And I slowly was like, I couldn't be in L.A. I didn't like being in L.A.

And that's why we started shooting a lot of pranks in L.A. Because we ran out of our city. Like the whole city knew us. The police knew us. There was like wanted posters in the police station for us. What did you got like about L.A.? I don't know. Like, every time I was here, I was just so excited to get home.

Like, I felt like that was where I was more happy. I was just naturally happier at home. So I remember talking to, like, Vitale and Dennis and all these prankster buddies. I was like, guys, I'm going to start vlogging. Not only I'm going to start vlogging, but I'm going to leave my huge prank career. Like, I had the biggest prank channel out there. Yeah. I'm going to stop doing it in our prime.

And I'm going to go to vlogs and I'm going to go PG. which was like everybody was like that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard why did you decide to go that route well I knew and I I I'd locked out man I was like a year before pranks just what year was this died I don't know I don't know dude I just remember like Vitaly like bro yeah 13 14 pranks are getting saturated they're gonna start dying there's too many of it and they're going too chaotic now they're not even funny anymore They're just, people are going to the extremes, right? Yeah.

And we're probably guilty for creating that, right? But I was like, I'm going to start vlogging. I'm going to vlog my life. And I just want to be me and I want to hang out with my kids and my wife. We were traveling nonstop. It was like I was never home. I was doing three flights a week to L.A. Just so that I could get back home every day.

Fuck, bro. Yeah. To Ohio is crazy. To Ohio. Yeah. So lots of travels. I just want to, everybody's here in L.A. doing this. how can I be different

nobody was making like clean family content like Tim Allen type stuff right is like the home improvement the guy that's just at home with his kids doing edgy dad stuff I was like I'm gonna try this and I really enjoyed it but why did you know that the whole fucking did you know it was gonna collapse

yeah why did you have a thousand percent I don't know I called it I just saw it coming I just I'd already been in it long enough to see like this super anytime like there's a super arise it starts to be saturated and all of a sudden you're not standing out you're not doing enough you're not what what do you think what do you think the uh that nilk had done differently because they sustained for you know more recently in the last few years well i've seen a trend of pranks coming back

i think we've gotten out of that like pranking will be around the center of time yeah everybody loves pranks but there was a moment for a couple years where like it was so frowned upon dude like pranking was just got so gross it was like it was either it was either it was either the they were just straight up fake or it was like they're so extreme that they're not funny. I don't know. I was just like, I got to get out of this. I want to start vlogging, bro. That's literally what I did.

And everybody, like, I met with my managers and like, this is what I'm doing. Everybody's freaking out because like I was, I was a moneymaker for a lot of these. Of course. Right? They're like, you're just going to stop doing this to make family content, bro? Like, but you hit that wave though, because then you hit the wave of like, then it's, start that the platform youtube starts a really with family content yeah so i luckily i was i was again i was in the family content at the right time yeah um and and then the vlogs it only took

it didn't take long the vlogs surpassed my prank channel which was huge has like a billion views or something which is insane to me that we would ever have that type of viewership but the vlog channel I had like six billion views. So we immediately just raced past the prank channel. It was like insane. Do you think it was because of the content or because the platform was like wanting that kind of content? There was nobody doing what I did. There was no edgy dad wrecking cars and blowing up stuff and shooting guns and still being this loving father to kids and a wife.

Yeah. It was like when they watched the content, they were drawn in by the crazy. but then they fell in love with the family. Yeah. And then it became a reality show. And they knew they could get it every day. Tomorrow, there's a video. Tomorrow there's a video.

And so how long did you sustain that for? You said three years? Like straight. How long did you do that for? My biggest run without missing a single day was 550 days, I believe. But that was just I missed a day. Oh my God. And I was so hungover.

Just one of the reasons I quit drinking. We're both four years sober. Nice. Because I missed a day. I was so hungover I couldn't physically get out of bed and I was so defeated in myself I was so disappointed in myself

that I let alcohol ruin my streak yeah I was so bummed at myself but I missed the day but daily vlogging I think we did six years like almost every single day bro that's it's just insane it's just a crazy thing

it's gross it's a crazy thing it's gross yeah like you have I'm like, it's like funny because your whole brand is like, it's so like good and love. And it's like you were also a psychopath though. Yeah, it's, it's, uh, it definitely had to be a little crazy to do that. I think that like we were so in the moment. Like I don't ever remember any stress at that time. What's your take on that?

You had no stress? I mean, I think we were definitely stress. It just feels like it was, didn't even happen. I feel like it took so much of our time and energy. like it's just a blur now yeah it's a wild concept and we when we were able to like we were creating this mad snowball of success yeah and you you cannot stop when you have that kind of momentum success moving like you cannot stop so we just were building the snowball between the the daily vlogs which were creating so many millions of views a month it was like you cannot stop

and then on top of that our merchandise company which was connected into our house and they were both just snowballing. I remember that. Like out of control, we were hiring everybody we could find our family members and we were night shifting and we were just in this like crazy moment that now feels just like what happened. Yeah. Like what do you, what do you think all this has taught you the most?

Like what do you learn the most throughout this? Personal life and then also business. I will say that I've always. like it's a teeter-totter, right? Because I'm a father, and I've been a father before I even had YouTube, right? So I've always been trying to find this balance between work and family.

And I think I always tried my best to stay true with that. And not letting work pull me too much this way, not letting family pull me too much away from work. It was like this center. And I've always been just weirdly proud of myself for keeping my family altogether and keeping everybody happy. and now that we're not in this rat race

and we're kind of just having fun and dabbling and doing the podcast. I'm very like, we're comfortable and I didn't ruin what I could have easily ruined. And I could have stayed in LA and partying and just said, screw this. I'm making so much money. I don't need my family.

I always was like just anchored. My family was my anchor, like our anchor. And she was just like always been on board with anything I want to do. So it's like take the kids You go knock this out And it was like that was our system Yeah

And it was awesome My biggest takeaway Personal Every part of what I've done It's always been What I want to do The whole time throughout You never did anything you didn't want to do

I tried not to So that goes for Like when I didn't want to do pranks anymore I moved to vlogging I didn't want to do sketches anymore I moved to pranks It was like I was always moving to what I really was, like, more happy doing. Because, like, YouTube, if you don't like it, is miserable.

Yeah. Like, it's miserable. Like, it will eat you up so fast. It just chews you up, spit you out, and then the next guy's flourishing. Of course. Yeah. So. You got to love what you do.

You got to love what you do. And you, like, it's the whole, like, strike when the iron's hot, right? It's like, we were in it and you can't stop. You know, we didn't stop until it started slowing down. And, you know. I mean, we did stop, but. We had to stop for, like, real reasons. But now we're back.

We're dabbling. It's fun. Yeah. The podcast is so fun. Yeah, this is easily my favorite type of content. Yeah, this is like. What about business? I want to answer the rest of that question of business.

Because you've been doing this at a very high level for a very long time. Obviously, things slow down, things speed up. Yeah. Business-wise, what have you learned? Because obviously, you did your own merch stuff. You've done it all. Yeah, I think, like, even the silly, even the silly. even the silly parts like I know

YouTubers that were like I'm not Even paying attention to taxes Like these guys are like because YouTube You're like you just get all this money Yeah right Like I know guys that just did not pay taxes And then YouTube slows down You are screwed dude

Yeah all that hard work is gone So pay attention Pay your freaking taxes I mean that's this is something that is just so People listening to this don't I don't even think I really understand When you start making a good amount of money Like, if you ever do it, they're taking a lot of your money.

Oh, my God. Like nearly, nearly half of it is their goal. So depending where you live, obviously, you save a little bit more. Yeah. The most. And we have some nice things. We have a beautiful home, lots of property. The biggest check I've ever written is to the government for taxes.

To this day, I've still not bought anything personally. Yeah. Bigger than my taxes. And they just go, thank you. See you next year. And, and like, you know, it'll do shit for you. You know, it's weird too. when you hit a certain category, everyone's like, oh, boo-hoo.

Yeah, yeah, of course. Bro, it's all equivalent. Yeah. It is all equivalent, bro. It's funny that people saying boo-hoo is like, you're getting robbed just the same. It's just a different fucking ratio. Oh, we're all getting robbed. Holy smokes.

But, yeah, yeah, pay your taxes. I think it just hurts when I look at it from this perspective. You know, obviously people say the boo-hoo, but it hurts because, like, no one gave me this. No one gave me that criteria or the idea. No one showed me how to move. Like, I had to create it all in order for money to come in. Yep. Like, you know, versus if we talk about the normal job, it's like you get a job,

you work a job, they take their taxes, and then that's kind of it. You're not like, you're not like having to create your income like dynamically as you move through your life. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's why I felt so bad. I was like, yo, this hurts. I remember they, I wrote that first $400,000 check.

I was like, what for what? And it's funny because I remember thinking like, it's not, there's not real. Everyone would complain about taxes. And I was like, it's not like, why are, it's not that big of deal. And then I wrote that first check because I had to because I had to. I had missed it and then I had to pay a little bit of fees on top of it and I was like for what for fucking what it's so brutal and and it's and and and everybody on the other spectrum gets money back at tax time so you have you have a lot of people that are like can't wait for tax season I get all my

checks and we're sitting here like we work really hard and we got to pay a ton of money yeah it burns I don't have I don't care how much money make it burns no it just never like you know what I'm so excited to pay these taxes right I just wish there was some sort of of like like could I decide somewhat like let me get like a vague decision about where the money goes like let me do that can it go to like roads or some should actually go to something good that's going to Ukraine bro you're sick um we come from like like no joke we Brittany and I like when we started YouTube no joke I remember like we would like have all our change and I remember one time like we had like 40 bucks and we were deciding to go get gas for the car or to order pizza

and we split it and did both and that's how like that's like literally the level we come from starting youtube so to write a check for for taxes of that value it's just like mind-blown to me like i never even thought i'd have that money in my life that i paid in taxes what's the most you've ever paid taxes one check millions millions that hurts millions and it burnt so bad brother that was miserable it's it's wild it's honestly one of the craziest things but can't get too wrapped up in that kind of shit because it's like you just got to keep going to i mean if you're paying listen if you're paying then you're making the right moves you're making money yeah uh that's just the hard part you do get better at rideoffs you do

like i had to get better at understanding business i had to find an accountant that would you know say hey you need to spend this amount of money by next week. All right, what can I buy? What can I buy? We'll buy this for the vlog. We'll buy this for business. And you go out and you just spend all that money. Or you give it to the government. Yeah. So it's like there's a lot of things you can do to to better your business tax wise. Like please don't save all that money. You have to spend that money or you're going to give it to the government. You need employees. You need all that kind of shit. You you literally have to find excuses to spend money. Yeah. Otherwise it yeah, it's literally just a hard concept to understand.

understand but without them write-offs you're just being taxed on all of it yeah so so so back to the personal stuff like throughout your whole your guys's whole experience like you guys never had any moments where it was you were just like fuck this i don't want to do this anymore like you i i had two i had two full-blown like i'm done with youtube before i ever made it this was before i ever had any not while you were making it it was it was uh you know i did i did two years of like living YouTube before I had anything like 50 views on videos for two years right yeah yeah yeah yeah so it was a grind dude and uh my first youtube payout was like 58 cents I got turned down for the YouTube partnership remember back then you had to apply for ads you had to apply for

partnership I got denied and I think when you were denied back then you had to wait six months to reapply holy shit so it's like I got a grind for six more months um I finally got in, I don't even remember how it went, but yeah, our first check was like 58 cents. I didn't think it was a check. It's just like on my. What were you doing before? I worked in a rope factory. Rope.

My mother and father own a rope business, multiple rope businesses. And, dude, I was just like the little hellion in school that hated school. I was like, I'm never going to use any of the school crap. Like get me out of it. And my teachers are like, fully. my teachers like I my head is down like I'm not going to pay attention and I just literally every time I'm just going to make videos my teachers are like by the way I graduated in 2001 YouTube didn't even come out until 2006 yeah so for me to say in 2000 that I'm just going to make videos for a living that was unheard of like my teacher what are you going to do how are you going to provide how did you think that how did you have that that site because Because I didn't care that I'd ever make money. I only cared that I wanted to make videos.

Why did you want to make videos so bad? I was addicted. I was addicted, bro. You really liked editing? I loved filming everything. I would go film my buddy's BMX riding. I would go film everything and I'd take it back to my computer and you had to use like the audio video cables and you had to ingest it into the editor and however long that tape was is how long it would take to get into the computer. Holy shit.

And like I was so addicted to it. it so all i cared about was making videos way before you can make money on the internet way before like i was just obsessed like i'm gonna make videos so when i graduated and i had literally no education i wasn't going to college my teachers were like all right roman go make your videos and i was like holy crap like what am i gonna do dude like i was freaking out so i joined my mother and father's factory yeah and um i joined two days after i graduated And I worked full-time minimum 40 hours a week until I was 27 and then and then you said fuck this. I'm going to do this for it. So for nine years I worked in the factory. Your parents had to kick you out. They're like you're coming in here and you're just working on your videos. So get this. Get this for the first three years I did YouTube. We had no internet in our house. No internet. So I would go to the rope factory to upload. while I was at work for three years I would upload a throw no internet at my house

couldn't get it why not just didn't exist it didn't exist we lived in the country there's no internet damn that kind of sounds peaceful man I'm not gonna right I think about that now I'm like let's go so three years no internet we're gonna a factory we um we finally started to like I started getting out of the sketch comedy it's just like I suck at it My videos are terrible. Like, they're not good. Nobody's watched them. You said they were kind of controversial?

Yeah, they're edgy. They're just like, they're like, you know, Dave Chappelle, Shane Dawson. Like, yeah, just like the Wild West YouTube. It's just like, whatever goes, you know? It's just like crazy comedy. And I was like, these suck. But I grew up with my father who was like taught me how to prank. Like, he was a prankster.

When we were kids, he would, like on the weekend, this was our activity. he would take like a purse and put it on a string and take it out to the end of the street and then when cars stopped and they'd go to grab that purse he would yank it on a fishing pole just because just entertain us kids what the fuck it's always like i got a this is it so i was like i'm gonna go tie a string on a purse no joke so we go out we tie a string on a purse and um i come home i upload it on my sketch video channel and um it goes crazy crazy bro this This is like three years of hard grinding YouTube, working in a factory. I've got two days off a week to make a video and get it uploaded, right?

Video gets 600,000 views in five days, which to me was unheard of. Oh yeah, that's insane. Like even back then, a million views on a video was very rare. Yeah. Like that was like my absolute pinnacle. And it's going crazy five days. Tosh Pointe was calling me, ridiculousness was hitting us up, world star and all these. I'm like, holy crap, like what is happening?

They're trying to use the content. They all want the clip. Yeah. So I'm like, yes, yes, play it, play it, play it. And then the next day, I wake up and the video's gone off YouTube. It's gone. How to get taken off? So one of the reactions in the video, which made it viral, they complained.

They filed like a, we didn't have, they didn't get permission to use us. Oh, man. And they yointed it. That sucks. So my first break in three years. I'm finally doing it and then it's gone off YouTube I was heartbroken

and then Tosh point out they all call me and said well if it's off YouTube we probably shouldn't air it and I'm like oh my God so I lost all of it damn like all of it that's crushing it was so discouraging man

and I think those are the moments where you have to like I know it's easy to say now because I did overcome it but man I'll be honest at that time it was just like this is never going to work Like, this is never going. And why did you decide to keep going?

Because I just loved it. I loved it. I never, at that time, nobody was running around like I make money on YouTube. Yeah, no, no one. I didn't even know you can make money on YouTube. No one. So the only reason to do it was passion. Yeah.

There was no. Now, there was subscribers. I was totally into getting more subscribers. But nobody was like, we were successful a long time. All long time for years where people were like, You make money on YouTube? Yeah. And it's just like, it was like five years.

Yeah. Like we were in it so early that it was so awesome. I loved people not knowing. Like that was the greatest thing. Yeah. But it's so different now. It's a different game now. Now every, you know, these kids are seeing the success and they're just like, I'm going to be a YouTuber.

Yeah. And a lot of them do love it, but a lot of them are just seeing the success. Yeah. They want the Lambo. They want the. That's why they want to do YouTube. That's the part that I just caution you. Like if you're gonna do it, find whatever it is

you love to do and do it. Yeah. You know, you love what you do. I love what I do. And it works. Yeah. You know, we found our niche, which was the family aspect and the,

you know, the wild vibes. It was like the dad that always knew how to step right on that fine line. Yeah. It is interesting though how people get so enamored by like success and money that they do things that they maybe wouldn't necessarily want to do anyways. They just like, they see you have it.

it and they go, oh, I can kind of copy it or mimic it or do it this way and then I want to have the same success. And then it's interesting because like those people normally get burnt out on if they don't get it the way they which they think they should, then they stop. And it's like, if you just started from the first place being like, okay, I actually care about this or whatever you're caring about, whether it's YouTube or something else, go towards it with that kind of love, then you'll have success. And it just like you said, you just proved it. Your whole story was like even when it was nothing, you still loved it, you still did it, you still enjoyed it. And then you just kept persevering through it when it was nothing and now you had everything because you

give a fuck about it you loved it yeah the the beautiful thing about doing what you love is that money actually becomes just the byproduct the money is just the bonus because you're you're getting to do what you love yeah that you'll find more joy i'll tell you this everybody that thinks money is the happiness that that that is very complicated yeah money comes with a lot of problems It don't matter how much money you have You're going to have stress in your life You're going to have the same problems You're going to get the same bad phone calls

You're just going to have different problems Maybe not paying your house payments your problem But you get something else. Money's great Yeah money's great But in the business side of things If you can do what you love That is the win The money is just the bonus

Yeah It's a great bonus I do really think people have a misconception though because I think so many people talk about if you love what you do, you don't work a day in your life. I don't necessarily think that's exactly fair to say because you do have to work no matter what if you love something like, because there are those days and you're like, okay, I still need to do this. I still got to get this done.

I still got to pay these taxes. And I'm not saying obviously like don't go after the things you love, but I also not caution people, but I also want people to understand that like no matter what you love, if you love what you do, you're still going to work. It is important because I think a lot of people get to a point unless they have that super mindset of perseverance. They'll get to the point of success doing something they love and it'll get hard and then maybe they get a little discouraged and then like slow down or maybe try and find an easier way. It's also like, I don't know.

Is it a difference between like I love something and like I really, really want this and I really, really want to do this no matter what? Yeah. You know, so I don't know. I think a lot of people talk about like, you know, like I said, loving what you do and not working a day in your life. But there's work no matter what. And so if what you love grows into different avenues, which it should. Yeah. And some of those things might become work.

Yes. Right? But the main path is what you love. Hopefully what you love spreads into lots of branches. Yeah. And then some of those are probably going to be, I don't really want to do that one. Because you're not as good at that. You don't enjoy that as much.

Right. But your main path is fueling all these branches and growing this giant tree. And yeah, I think that's kind of what you're talking about. Exactly. Yeah. It should outgrow you. Yeah. Right.

And then that's kind of where you find the, maybe the brand deal. you don't want to do but it's you know it's what makes your show keep running so yeah yeah have uh have you ever like your perspective on all this and going through this have you ever like i don't know have you ever thought like you wanted less oh yeah because i always find it so curious because it's like you know you said what you guys said about what's so funny all right dude just the way you said you wanted less and she said definitely it just made me feel really good No, I think like within the last year, my thought is like, can we just sell everything and get an RV and travel with their kids, homeschool them and just. This is what I'm talking about.

The reason why I ask this question is because you said earlier about your time through it and you guys both were like, it was almost like it didn't happen because it happened so fast and so much. I'm really curious because like I sometimes look back on everything I've done. What you said that earlier, I was like, oh, I really relate to that. like I really heavily relate to time just feeling like it was just like this because I was so I had to do do do do do do do that like a whole portion of my life obviously great things came of it but like genuinely me like living in those moments not as much as I was living in like what I had to continue to do and that's why I asked you that question obviously we're talking you know in a group here but you can answer this as well I'm just curious what like have you had moments like that and you're like damn for sure I think about it every day I'm like our daughter's five and I'm like I don't even remember when you were two like what we were just like so busy all the time that it's just your mind is just thinking about the next thing and what are we going to film tomorrow and you're not living in the moment so there's like so many times so I'm like let's just like chill and enjoy our kids while they're at home um but then we're at home with them for like a day and we're like okay

let's go back to work let's get back to work wait why did you think it was so funny when I said the less thing. I don't know. What was, what joke was going? I just took a sexual, dude. Oh my God. Why'd you do it?

Why'd you do it? Always. He's like, all the time. I'm just giving you too much, babe. I know. Yeah.

I'll be honest. Look, like, it's so funny. Like we, we, we, um, everything's always sexual with him.

It's fine. We come, we come from a very modest grow up, both of us. Um, you lived in a trailer part. I lived in, you know, a small,

corn town cornfield town I love it man it's dope you know we both have like hardworking parents and we've

we've built a lot of success through the internet and we live now I think at a level that is not that comfortable to us like I'm probably more comfortable in a nice hometown

vibe like I want my kids to go ride bikes with their friends and yeah and not a 1600 square foot house 1600 yeah 1600 16000 it's like like even

for me like when you say like simplify things like I could easily simplify my life down like I feel more comfortable in why don't you I think we will yeah I think we will like we fell into this beautiful home and we've just kind of been finishing it and you know probably the goal will be just to sell it in a few years and 16,000 square feet is what you're going to say yeah that's a

fucking palace it's huge it's not like it's not I love it doesn't feel like us it's just too much space am I yeah obviously you know you have to have employees in a house like that yeah I can't you know like you have to have a little down hallways it's it's ridiculous call each other and see where you're at yeah but we um it was it was a home that we got um and and finished building right before COVID. So we stole this place. Oh, I'm sure you got a good deal. And now it's, it's, it's just the price on it's so much higher. Yeah. And we have a bunch of land and, um, we love it. It's nice. It's nice. It's just a lot. Very thankful for it. But for us, it's like, it's not really our roots. Like I feel like we're going to be very happy finding like a nice modest home for the family and

things like that. Sounds weird to say. No, no, no. It makes sense. Um, I have a question about YouTubers coming up now, because you've obviously been in the game. You've done this for so long. What do you think is changed now to become successful on YouTube? Like, what do you think is most important for a creator coming up? Maybe you'll agree with me, but I feel like being authentic is becoming less popular because now you have to like, to really bang on YouTube now, you have to follow the algorithm. So what's that do?

That makes you focus on what the algorithm wants to see versus what maybe you want. do, right? Yeah. So look at the biggest YouTubers right now. And look, you can be yourself and pop. You can pull millions of views, but if you want to be that guy that's pulling the millions, the 20s, the 30s, the 50s, you are playing a very hard game with the algorithm. And you understand it. You probably have a lot of people understanding it around you. Yeah. Back when we were doing it, it was just like, dude, you could, I don't know, you could do anything and stand out. People are like, look, what he's doing? Now I can do the same stuff.

And it's like, dude, this has been done a thousand times. Yeah. You think just because of the saturation that it's just so much more difficult? Yeah, it's saturated. And every day there's, you know, another thousand kids just wanting to be YouTubers. 100,000 kids want to be YouTubers. Yeah. It's only getting more flooded.

So how do you stand out? Right. But do you think, do you think you stand out by following the thing that everyone follows? It's not following the thing that everyone follows. It's understanding what the computer. computer is going to favor of course right so you can make your same video but if you understand the algorithm it's going to pop a lot of course but when we were doing there was no like system yeah it was if you got the most views you were trending that day

yeah it just and that trend made you pop yeah it sucks now because it makes everything feel a little bit more contrived where it's just like we're now just people like you said are doing things just to please the algorithm and then the algorithm in the platform itself we were talking about on your podcast is like it's skewed It's skewed. It has to be a certain way. If you say certain things, you're going to get popped here. You talk about this.

It's not going to be go over well there. And we know as creators now who've been doing it for so long, oh, if I talk about this or if I say this or if I say this, then my videos are going to get affected by it. And it's just kind of like a, if to me it's becoming a weird place. And like we were saying on your podcast as well, that I'm really grateful for like this kind of content. Yeah. That it doesn't seem to be as, I don't know, it seems, it's not as like hammered as unless I had like a 10, 12 minute video saying something.

I'm stupid maybe maybe that'll change you know so we're gonna hear this podcast and then fucking run the algorithm through it a little bit deeper but it just feels different now man where it's like a lot of creators know I can't say this so like I'm not then just being my true authentic self because like there's a lot of things I'd love to say sure that like I just don't because I know that like you are going to be like not not because of the public reaction it's more so because I think a lot of the public reaction there's things I would say that people like yo that's true and I wish more people said it yeah it's because of platform itself is going to is going to like basically bury your shit yeah i think the number one

goal and this is like so cliche but it's like you got to find your path you got to find your path like and you'll find joy on the path right like if you're in it just for money like hold on tight you're going to have a long ride oh yeah you're going to have a long ride you're going to go through a lot of miserable too i lost money for years for easily three years i lost money on youtube like before I made a dollar I lost money it was sacrifice it was commitment it was time it was but I freaking loved it yeah and that makes it all worth it so I don't know if you're trying to create content just be you man like people will attach to authentic people like you can you can bro you can you can you can read people you know when somebody's not being authentic yeah for sure

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Yeah I think it's And I just tell people Like the reason why I love this content But I'll tell people who make any content, like you just said, is I think the thing that truly differentiates you than everyone else is doing the same shit, it's you, or it's how you do it. It's your spin on. It's like, what's genuine from you? A lot of people look around and they go, oh, that guy said this or that guy talks like that. So I'm going to talk like this. I'm going to talk like that.

And then you're constantly playing this game of catch up or what's coming next based on what someone else is doing. So it's like you're not really living in that path. It's like, okay, this is really going to make you happy because like if you're constantly looking to see what someone else's dude to figure out what you should do yeah you're not doing what you really want to do and you're going to at some point if you don't get the return that you're seeing someone else get the person that you're watching and following to do it and like oh i'm going to copy this then you're going to be like demotivating me like fuck this yeah so if it's not from your heart like eventually you're going to hate it i want to throw this out there and this this can help a lot

of people when i was a kid uh and and still to this day my dad is a phenomenal phenomenal phenomenal guitar player the best guitar player I know he's a shredder he can if you put on a song right now he can instantly grab his guitar and just bam he can play it he understands the guitar like magic dude

like a song he never heard before yeah he just knows the exact like when you whistle you know what to whistle to make it sound like that he can do that on his guitar so he's phenomenal but if anybody was like yo play like when I was a kid play this song by ACDC

he refused to play anybody's music, anybody's music, because he didn't want to be influenced by their music. So when I was coming up on YouTube, I made it a point to not watch YouTube. I didn't want to be, of course I watched some YouTube, but I made it a point to never watch YouTube. I don't know who's coming up. I don't know what's going on. I didn't want any influence on the outside. I didn't want to copy another influence or I didn't want to. And I think that helped me be very original. You know, everything we did, I always tried to make it original. like I've never seen this before you know that was my goal definitely our goal so be careful what you ingest because it will you will like what's working for you I'm gonna do what he does yeah it's not it may not work for for you yeah you know what I mean that's a fact that person was probably doing it for 10 years before yeah and you always got actually solid that's right that's right yeah so be original man that's tough on too now because everything's been done

At least it seems like it. Yeah. We talked a little bit about the AI stuff on your pod, but I want to talk about it on this one, man, because it's such like a, just a current thing that I think is only going to get crazier and crazier. But the idea of, like, people just, you know, I could talk about the president saying random shit

and like all these funny things that you see. And I'm just like, where does this go? Because I don't see it's not stopping, like this whole AI, like the seemingly like impersonating people that's just because you have their archive of voices. Yeah, it's where do you think this goes genuinely because there's no stopping this Judgment day. Yeah, you really believe that just judgment day but like I've watched too many sci-fi movies dude Yeah, it's a great question. I think everybody's trying to figure out right like think of the little the little AI we've already been dealing with and it's already like kind of crazy

Even the little stuff I mean people will literally see something and and and if it's already like it's already like kind of crazy dude. I mean people will literally see something and and and if you're Imagine if you just you especially like imagine someone who's not so closely tied into social. Yeah. And they just like some maybe their kid goes, hey, did you see this to like a like a, like a, you know, an adult. Let's say like a 45 year old. And they're going to see that and be like, what the fuck? Like something that's not true. And it's let's say it's crazy and outlandish.

Yeah, you won't be able to tell it from the real thing. Yeah. But like in most people already, we know being on the internet for so long that most people don't go and indulge in like what's actually happening or what actually was said. Like they just kind of go like, oh, I saw it. It's real. Yeah. So that's the scariest thing is it's like how does this? It's scary and it goes to so many levels Like we've been dealing with it even on small scales like how many times if you said something around a friend and then you get an ad on your phone for that? Yeah right that oh that the next like that 20 hours that's a tiny bit of like what I see coming like we've already been in it a little bit like we're getting ads based on what we're talking to in our private home right but now but but but but imagine now someone saying someone not saying something something that They just never said it.

And then you see someone that you look up to or someone that you viewed. And now it's just like they're saying it. But they never actually said it. And then you just go, well, it's true. He's saying it. Right. So then it's like, like the Joe Rogan thing I was talking about. I talked about it on the full cent pod.

We talked a little bit about on yours. And it's like there's an ad where it's like it went viral of him talking about another product that he was never talking about. He was talking about a different product. And they just like dubbed it in there. He goes, yeah, if you just search it on Amazon, the thing pops up. And it's like, now people are making millions of dollars off just scamming people. Like, yeah, I think, I think we're going to, I think, look, I think the country in the world has already has major trust issues, right? Whether it's the government, whether it's the elites, whether it's who believes in what.

We all have like this, like this division and trust. And I think with AI, like, how are you going to trust anything? How are you going to believe anything? Because this stuff's going to get real. This stuff's going to get to the point where I think people will get out of problems because you'll be able to claim it's fake. Like I just, I don't see this being. a great thing yeah i don't know it's gonna fucking implode man i feel like it's like you're taking your privacy out of now out of our own hands right yeah right now you control your content

you choose to record you choose what to edit you choose what to post right pretty soon like they will be able to dupe us so fast bro because every word in the dictionary has been said in the last 10 years on our blogs yeah it's already in there the i i will ingest all 2,000 of our vlogs, it will database the entire language and it will be able to just make up whatever they want. 20 minutes too. But the other side of it will be just like, I never said that and that'll go on for a couple years.

And then nobody will be like, yeah, he probably didn't say it's fake. It's AI. Meanwhile, I did say it. Yeah. Right? Like I think that it'll be used for like, dude, it's going to be a nightmare, bro. I think medically you're going to see just computers heavily. It sounds like we're talking about the future, but we're not.

I think it's like pretty much happening. right here right now yeah like we're right at the tipping point of like like i don't think my kids will drive a car i think the car will just drive right yeah and and it's going to be like that in all aspects it will be maybe my doctor's not telling me what i need to do to better myself my computer will be telling me what to do with myself with micro computers that are on my bloodstream and every morning i pee it tells me exactly how much calcium i need how much magnesium yeah what your insulin is It's going to just be data everywhere and we're going to rely on this stuff. Well, that's what I was, I mean, it's like this, it seems like it's like people,

humans are just slowly becoming like cyborgs is what's going to happen over time. Yeah, I mean, even this device right here. It's, that's the beginning of it. But this is our, this is now an appendage. I don't go to the bathroom without it and I'll sit with you without it. I don't, this is with me and beside me at all times. At most, it's at my nightstand charging. Bro, yeah.

If I get up right now and I go for a drive. and I forgot this, bro, it's like, where's my phone? Like, you start freaking out because this is now, you're like, wait a second. This is now part of us. Yeah. So now imagine how dedicated will be become to AI, which is trying to help us. And it's dedicated to our health. And it's dedicated to our, we were talking to my podcast about aviation.

And it's, it's, it's now taking over everything. Like, um, Amazon. Like you hear all the time, they've just laid off 20,000 people. Why do you think that is? There's probably a computer now that took that spot. Yeah. So, dude, I don't know. I can only think of the cons.

You know, but I'm sure there's a ton of pros. But yeah, I think it's like an old school coming before AI. I think of the cons. And I'm just talking to like a human, like a human nature thing. Like what, what's happening there? Because it's, it's becoming less real. Like human nature is changing and shifting completely. I just feel like that that's the weirdest thing to me.

Like, we're, like, people are becoming less human. And like you say with this, this is the start of it. This has been happening. Yeah, like, how much do you not learn now? Because you know you can just Google it in one second. Yeah. And it's also like, where, where are we, like, what are we relying on? Like, these kids and the way that they just ingest content and, you know, understand the algorithms and all this stuff and social media.

But it's like, we're just slowly. We're getting dumber because of this. Dude, when I was a kid, I knew, just fucking week or two. When I was a kid, I knew every friend's phone number. I knew my parent. I knew how to call people. If I lose that phone, I can't even get a hold of her.

I do not know her number. Yeah, so I'm saying, they're just going to put this phone in us somehow, and you're never losing it. Go drive two hours to a destination without your GPS. I mean,

I could do that. I'm really good at directions. Okay, we're a little old school. Okay. But the new gen is they're relying solely on computers. They're done for it, man. You flip their switch,

they're done. Like how much longer do you think cursive writing will exist? It's already done. Four years. It's already done. Four years will be completely gone. There's no use for it.

Most schools don't, public schools don't use. But as a kid, I had to learn cursive. I had to do it. I had to take tests. I had to. It's dead.

How much longer is writing going to be a thing, bro? Everybody's going paperless. We're now just typing fast. My son is like, Dad, I'm the fastest typer in school. I'm telling you,

dude, it's turned into fucking like, I robot. Like, we're literally, by the way, by the way, at the end of all those movies, it's bad.

Yeah, we're done. Every one of them. I swear, I think this is how it ends. It's just, I don't know what time. You've seen these videos

they release of like all these robot dogs. Yeah, yeah. Bro, I'm like, this is it. Yeah, the dogs,

dude. These dogs in the full human, the full body ones with the backpacks. I'm like, bro, imagine getting invaded by that. Imagine that in five years when they got it really dialed in.

Imagine a field full of soldiers made out of metal, bro. And they just have laser beam fucking fucking sights. Yeah, your airs will be like spears. Yeah. It'll be like spears. like pointless they're fucking they're they're like zero fucking ability to miss you they're just

gonna nail everyone dude it's it's honestly it's scary it sounds like we're like writing a sci-fi movie no this is it's right it's really happening it's writing itself man that's what i'm saying it's like what where the fuck do we go from here because like because like the problem with this i think i think maybe just uh right please a cabin in the woods bro because where this goes is like it also goes to full control like if it's all computerized And so who's who's typing these buttons? Who's flipping these switches? It goes to full control.

Like I complete control. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine you, how easy it will be to shut you down if you break a law. All of a sudden, your car won't start. Yeah. Your bank account won't work. Yeah.

Turn your phone off. It will be a push of a button to end you. It's insane. Right? I think a lot of it's designed just for control. Yeah. I think you could really. look at who's designing this stuff and see how it benefits them and that might help

understand why AI is being so pushed because right now it seems like everybody's like this is bad this is bad like turn around like yeah like let's stop this now I feel like even Elon Musk is saying it's bad oh yeah oh he freaking created but he's also but he's also furthering it yeah I mean he's definitely talking about it I mean everyone's talking about this because it's it it is getting to a point where it's like you know you see like the deep the whole deep fake stuff And everyone, I read the comments. Everyone's like, oh, you should stop this. This is clearly going the bad direction.

It's already too real too soon. Yeah. Imagine two years from now. Yeah. It will be mastered. Bro. Jacob, can you, did I text that to you? That picture, that video of a, of Biden talking.

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It's Elon. Oh, I texted. Jordan Peterson. Yeah, it's like four guys in a squad. Dude, it's great. No, listen to this. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on.

I was typing on Tinder the other day and saw a chick with the biggest fucking booty I've ever seen. Sounds like that. God damn, that shit was huge. I could barely believe my eyes, man. I had to cool myself off with a chocolate, chocolate chip ice cream cone from Ben and Jerry. Shit was actually fire. No pun intended. My buddy Kevin from the Secret Service then brought me to the White House to sign some more shit.

It was probably more money for Balensky and Ukraine, but I didn't really give a fuck. Remember to keep it real and vote for me in 2024. Bro, that should have me died. Oh, my. That shit is hilarious. It has like millions and millions of views, millions of likes. Oh, my God. It's obviously, you could tell it's like a little, it's obviously doctor.

Obviously he's fake. He can't speak that clearly. But it does sound like. I've seen other ones where he was talking like about nuclear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You seen that? And it sounded way too real because it was way slower pace. that wasn't trying to joke and it's it's like that's what i'm saying if you show that to someone

and some like you know like someone who's like 50 and not tapped in tapped in they're gonna be like what the fuck is that real yeah like your dad i feel like would totally believe that he would he'd like did you see that video i'm like dad it's fake like so now it's like what the fuck is real yeah it won't take long for we're just like it's fake everything's fake then but i just think it's a crazy time and i don't i don't know where the fuck it's going but like i'll tell this i'll say this It's a fun time to be alive. Like, we are watching the world change big time. Like, I know, I remember being a kid and hearing my grandpa say the same thing.

But I think ours is like escalated to another level. Yeah, I think it's like my grandpa saying, the same thing, the world is over. The world. But it's still here. Yeah. And I, and I say this a lot too. Like, turn your phone off, turn your TV off and just go outside. Yeah, this is important.

Dude, the world's beautiful. Yeah. It's beautiful. like we're so we're we're putting that into like I don't think our brain is meant to ingest what we're showing it all day that's be like we're seeing uh every time I get on Twitter it's either a fist fight video it's um naked chicks it's it's so flooded with like things that the brain wasn't designed to be ingesting all day yeah right I don't know what it's doing to us it's not good but like the dopamine is is is is just like, and they're designed to just feed us dopamine. Yeah. You know, I don't know if you could talk about this or not,

but have you ever taken any psychedelics? I've never, ever. Not once. Not once. I had an experience when I was, I don't know how old I was. It was like high school stuff. Yeah.

It was like smoking weed, which I barely ever did. I never liked weed. I was not the guy that liked weed. It was just like my friends are doing it. Yeah, yeah. Some weird party I was at. And I tried.

I tried it. It was in like a two liter bottle in a bathtub. And it was like filled up and then you, I don't even know what it was. What the fuck? A giant bong in a bathtub? It was like a two liter plastic bottle. Yeah. And then it would fill with smoke with the water would drain it.

It would fill with smoke. Yeah, like a bong. So dumb, bro. It was just like a gravity bong, whatever. Gravity bong, yeah. I didn't even know what I was doing. I was just trying to fit in. Yeah.

Like I, dude, I was a nerdy kid, right? So I was just like, okay. And I suck this in. I'm no close. did you get high so here's what ended up happening yeah apparently this had like PCP in it uh what yeah that's like that that's one of the drugs like you could take once and fuck your whole life up maybe it was something else that's a crazy but i was seeing things i was dying i was game over i was in the hospital for like two days you were seeing things

oh yeah like things that weren't there oh dude like people running by and they were like nobody's there I was, I was, I was in the future, bro. I was like in the future. I would ask for something like, can you grab me that? And then they would say you already asked us that. And I'd be holding what I asked for. It was so, fuck. I never, ever, ever tried another drug in my life after that.

No. I think, I think it was a blessing. Yes. I always use that story as a blessing because it kept me away from it. I no longer needed to fit in with anybody. Bro, I am good. That's a crazy fucking story. I still don't know what really happened, but like people later were like, yeah, that was laced.

Like, that was laced. Yeah, because marijuana wouldn't make you just see shit that's not there. No, no, no, it wasn't just marijuana. I had had marijuana before. So that was like a big gift to me in my life. I stayed away from all drugs forever. Yeah. That's funny.

That reminds me, well, it's not at all like my story, but I stopped drinking because when I was like 16 I was like I was at a great America in like amusement park ride place yeah and I was with my buddies and I thought I was so cool because you know you know how people drink like the hard the hard liquor so I was drinking this Picardy 151 it's like super high oh yeah you know like and I was like they're like yeah this stuff is so strong and I was like this thing shit I remember like dumbass 16 year old kid and I remember drinking like the bottle like a handle and like slam it oh my god and being like like oh it's nothing and then I blacked out like I remember like I remember like blacked out and then I come to and I'm like on my toilet and I'm like crying the room is spinning I'm like where's my mom yeah and I'm just like after that I swear dude like like you like you said I had one of those epiphany moments where I was like I'm never drink I didn't drink to I was like 24 dude I didn't even try alcohol until yeah 24 probably 24 yeah yeah I was too scared to this day if I start feeling off at all I start to panic like it's coming back yeah just jacked me up dude Do you get you ever deal with anxiety in your life? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, what forms of it? Kind of just panicky. Yeah.

Panicy anxiety. Like worrying of death? Yeah, like just like stress. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to die. Like you think I need to go get an MRI. I think I need to have a brain scan. I'm like, yeah. Fine.

Nothing's wrong. Yeah. And then when I was 16, before that happened, I, um, I was, freaking out like I thought I was dying like multiple times a night I wake up I couldn't explain to my parents how I felt like I'm dying like I feel like I'm leaving my body like I feel like I'm looking down on my body like it was the most bizarre thing ever and this went on for like six months nobody could figure it out hospitals like couldn't figure it out I wrecked my car and my uncle took my car and he's fixing it and he

calls my parents he says I think I know what's wrong with Roman he's got no exhaust pipes. Wait. I can't tell if you're joking or not. This is a 100% true story. He said you're out of your body experiences because you have no. No, no,

I just kept feeling like I was dying. Oh, okay. The exhaust was getting your car. For six months, nobody knew what was wrong with me. And I couldn't leave the house. I was freaking out.

Way you explained that story, threw me off because it was like, yo, he's got no pipes on us. He needs his exhaust. Okay. And I thought it was like, yo,

that's why he's fucked up right now. Yeah. He needs a new exhaust system. He needs a new exhaust system, bro. Problem solved. Got you. I see where you're going. He calls my parents and says,

I think I know what's wrong with him. Because the whole family, everybody's trying to figure out what's wrong with me. He's like, and it's wintertime, right? So I have an 1972 Plymouth. You got to start it up.

So I'm sitting for 30 minutes in my car every morning, letting it warm up. Yeah. And all this exhaust is just carbon. You're not smelling it? Carbon monoxide, dude. Poisoning. Yeah, I was exhaust, dude.

I'm just like, yeah, it's my car. Right? I'm sucking in all this carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide poisoning. Yeah. Took like nine months for it to get out of my system. That's fucking intense. Yeah.

Wait, I don't understand what you're not smelling. You've got to be smelling this to a significant degree to be like, what the fuck am I doing sitting in here? No, like, I don't think carbon monoxide has a smell. I just smell my exhaust. I don't even know what carbon monoxide was. I didn't even know people went in their garage and killed themselves with it.

Yeah. Like that, I was just this kid with his car. Like, yeah, my car smells. You know, that's a crazy fucking story. Just an innocent kid, like. And you're just tripping. like what is going on with bro almost died for sure damn wonder how many more times you had to start the car in the morning to fucking be actually yeah i don't know i and it goes back to like this

blessing i wrecked that car had i not wrecked the car i would have just kept doing it damn bro so do you believe that like like things in life or so just the way they are supposed to happen do you believe that well i'm a i'm a very spiritual person yeah so i i i prayed my whole life i pray a lot so When things like that happen, when I'm, you know, whatever stupid thing I do and I learn that lesson, I usually take it as like a blessing, a real blessing, like a gift to learn from it. I could choose not to learn from it and keep doing it and deal with the consequences, but I have always been good at like, all right, I am never doing that again, ever. Have you ever struggled with your faith?

No, never. Never. Never. Never. All in. All in. I have that. Yeah.

On and off, yeah. I mean, it's very, it is a very personal thing. Yeah. Like, it's, you know, I've obviously spent a lot of time not practicing it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, through my, most of my YouTube career come up, it was like, I got time for this. Yeah. I'm making money, dude.

Yeah. Yeah, I put it all off. But, yeah, I'm very thankful to have that in my life and to, I just said this on a podcast. It's like, it's such a. gift to know with all my heart like i know with all my heart like you believe that i just believe yeah that's it there's no there's no second guessing or denying jesus of the lord it's like i'm all in yeah all in bro and i love it gives me so much joy in my life and our life like we do it all together you know my kids and family prayers every night and um it's just something we do personally

very personal yeah yeah yeah i struggle with it man i've gone did you grow up in it i grew up in it Because that can sometimes be a big reason. A lot of people kind of back away. Yeah, I grew up in the Catholic church. A little bit more like rigorous. Yeah. And I think because of the way that that whole thing is like institutionalized, I was like, this is, this feels really weird.

And so then I remember when I got out of it, I was like, I don't know how I feel about this. Not necessarily like the idea of God, but more so like organized religion. Yeah, sure. And then like you said, I just got so caught up and doing the things I had to do that I wasn't like I wasn't finding ways to connect sure and I just kind of disconnected and then you know things would go bad and bad and bad and bad and then you think about it and it's like you know the same concept and you think like you know why would God allow this to happen to

someone right why some you know like a kid why would a little kid end up with cancer like as soon as they're bored yeah you know and then you start to question all these things and I just I dealt with that my own way for my own life experiences and I kind of like rescinded myself but lately I've been a lot more like praying i've been i've been coming back to it honestly like i i miss um not feeling comfort in it but i just missed that like almost like internal dialogue that i had and i remembered before i really started coming up that just that like you said that that feeling of almost like peace and everything no matter how it goes just because you have that that certainty yeah and and i've noticed myself coming back to it and it does feel good it just feel really good so i had this

conversation, not specifically this conversation, but I talked to George, do you have George on your podcast recently? Yeah, yeah. Did you guys talk about faith? I'm assuming. Yeah, definitely. Because he loves to. I love George. Yeah, I do too. Got to have him back on, but, um, yeah, has, so you, you've always been a believer. You've always been in it that way. Yeah, just like, it's weird too, because we never went to church as a kid. Yeah. Ever like my family. And maybe, maybe that helped me find it on my own. Yeah. Um, because, yeah, I mean, I could see like, forcing your kids to go to church could go the other way, right?

They're just like, it's not for me or you've made me go, I don't like it. So I just, we just found it on our own, but my parents certainly always taught me the right morals and taught me that there was God, but we never went to church. It was just like, you know, same thing. My parents were stupid busy

and they just, you know, living for the world. But eventually they did join a church and they went constantly. I watch our lives change. I watch everything change. But even when they did it, mom and dad did it, they never asked us to go.

It was very personal to them. And the same thing has happened with us. It's just very personal to us. And just something like, it's hard to explain to people. Like, I said this on Logan Paul's podcast. It was like the concept of like what we've got to do in our career has been what a lot of people

would just dream to do. We've traveled the world. we've skydived in Dubai over the palm and we've collected all this money in our bank accounts and we have all these worldly joys, right? Yeah. But finding Jesus and the Lord in my life has more joy than all of that combined,

and I can't deny it. There's no way for me to pretend that it's not 10 times better than everything I've achieved in this life. Like, I'm that happy following the Lord. Yeah. So, and again, it's what about it, though? What about it?

Like, what about it makes you have that feeling or that emotion? Because people, like, listening. I believe, I believe for me, it's the comfort. I believe I get an overwhelming load of comfort and joy knowing that I can have peace in my home and have this idea that my family will be protected and that we will go on after this temporary life to this better place that to me is very exciting

like very exciting and you've never you've never doubted it never ever yeah yeah damn I mean there's probably there's probably certainly been times it's like you know why is this happening of course of course right and that's a lot of that's where free will comes in right yeah it's like we have free will like the lord is never going to affect your free will you're

right now you can go break any law you want right make a bunch of fucked up choices too you can do whatever you want that's the beauty of the lord like he you know i don't know it's it's it's super like strange to talk about because i've i've went my entire career without ever saying it no but i just i'm i'm at least at this point in my life i'm i'm really um looking more towards it So that's why I'm just talking to you about it, so I'm interested in it. I know the days that I wake up, the days that I wake up and I read the scripture are my best days every single time. In fact, I know that when I'm having a bad day, I didn't read my scriptures that day.

Whether my day is good or not, reading the scriptures gives me just enough armor and comfort to get me through the bad situations a day. It doesn't mean you're not going to have a bad day, right? Yeah, of course not. But it gives you just enough strength to get through it. Like, I'm weaker without scriptures. I'm not as, I'm not even on my game as much without the scriptures.

Like, it really has saved me, man. Like, seriously, it's saved me. It's beautiful. Yeah. Fuck. I need to get there. Yeah.

Because I just have doubts so much. It's a lot of discipline. It's, it's like, like reading scriptures is boring, dude. Like, it's so boring. A lot of this is hard to understand.

It's, you know, it's complicated. It's parables. It's, it's, It's not exactly designed to be like, well, this is so fun. Yeah. It's like the sacrifice that you would sit for 20 minutes, 10 minutes.

Yeah. Read a few, you know, read a few. The thing for me that's so interesting is that my rational mind goes like, well, you know, you talk about the scriptures and, you know, the stuff that you're reading. I always think then, isn't, these are just like kind of becoming almost like just daily affirmations. I'm not trying to simplify and say it's that simple because it's more, you know, complex than that. But what I'm saying is my rational mind, like the cynicism in it is like, well, is you're just believing this because like you want to believe this or are you reading these things and you're getting this, the good information from it. And that's why your day is better and not necessarily just because it's like a connection to Jesus or to God, right?

So that's where my mind goes like, well, what about that aspect to it? Yeah. Like maybe it could be that same feeling could be granted to you from yourself in a different way. Yeah. And that's why I always go back and forth in it. But and then I try to remind myself and I try to look back on my life when like I really like kind of surrendered and submitted to this, this idea and like being being more connected to it. And I look back at the times that I would, you know, I would really actively pray. And my life was fucking great.

Right. And so like I have this weird battle where I'm like, why don't I try and do that again? And then I'm like, well, I've been fucked over and I've been hurt and I've been this and I've been that. And I'm like, it's just hard for me to get all the way back to that. If I'm just being honest. Yeah. Of course. Man, it's absolutely tough.

And I think, like, it comes with a lot of responsibility too, right? Like, even if the, even if the, the, the, the, the Bible was completely made up, let's just say it was totally fake. It's still, it's still designed to make a very good human. Yeah. Like, there's no part of that Bible that would, that would force you to be bad. It's designed to make you good on this earth, to have good morals, to, to love thy neighbor. to it's designed to make good people so even if it was fake you're still getting the understanding of what makes a good person like i think it has such good uh morals behind it yeah you know just be kind to people

why i can't even believe we need to hear be kind of people right like that's a that's a real struggle for some people yeah you know i feel like the internet's made that shit worse man be a human like you know the bible helps me a lot just like take a step back man be humble be humble be submissive you know ask for help get on your knees and ask for help like submit and say your prayer and watch how fast your life changes you believe that wholeheartedly absolutely yeah it's beautiful absolutely fuck i've watched i've watched my entire life change through this man yeah i mean shit it's proof isn't everything you have obviously yeah give it all the the lord you have two fucking helicopters give it all of the lord just like the weirdest thing in the world to me

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I often believe that like You're closer to God Look at that Just trying to get to you, bro Yeah, it might help, who knows I Yeah, it's very personal And it's a teamwork too

It's not like I do this myself, right? We do this together as a family And it's beautiful It's beautiful, I love it And I wouldn't deny it. I would never deny it. And, you know, I don't like preaching it to people. I don't like telling people to do it.

I just like people to know that I do it personally. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it. Yeah. So, nothing wrong with that. Yeah.

But let's, so let's talk about that a little bit. You have two helicopters. Um, you, you have a lot of cars and no. I know you got a GTR. No,

I got a couple old Toyota trucks, which I love like the 1980 trucks. Yeah. Like, one's like fully restored. It's beautiful. one's like kind of a mess it's fun it's a romper but why helicopters like what's going on with so i'll tell you a funny story there's vlogs 10 years worth of vlogs with a handful of them

talking about one day like i'm calling out to my viewers bro watch one day i will learn how to fly helicopter i will own a helicopter which by the way when i was saying that that was so far-fetched That was like never, ever possible. Like 10 years ago? Yeah, 10 years ago, 8 years ago, 7 years ago. So it's always been this thing. When I see a helicopter dude, I'm like, that is the most badass thing on the planet, bro. You mean they can just land wherever?

They can just take off? Like, that is so cool. When you watch war movies as a kid, it's helicopters, bro, bringing in the troops. To me, they're just, they're designed. They're so efficient. They can get you to point A to point B. You don't need a runway. You don't need a flight plan.

You're just up and out, bro. Yeah, I see. All my favorite movies were Vietnam movies, and they all had cool. I just think of that song. What's that fucking song, dude? Yeah, the CCR song. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

All of them songs work. Yeah. So we, I bought this old car that was like for a burnout competition, stupid little car. And my buddy Cletus, who was on our podcast. Yeah. he's like I'll do the car for you so I shipped it to him and then I go to visit him so that we can launch this car idea like I'm going to do this burnout competition Cletus is going to build it it's going to be this fun event and um we're talking about helicopters like like crazy and uh

he ends up like helping me like he inspires me like that day we were like buying a helicopter that day I was like we're buying a helicopter right out the gate It's just such a crazy decision He had a helicopter before he even took one flight To try and be a pilot Yeah, I bought a helicopter before

So it was like Maybe three weeks after that Cletus is like Helping me find the right helicopter He's like this is what you need to train in This would be your best options It's a turbine He's like just so good at this stuff right

So finds this helicopter, and he's like, you ready to buy this? I was like, I'm ready right now. Where do I send my money? He's like, are you serious? I was like, I'm buying this thing right now. He's like, all right. So we fly to Texas and we buy this helicopter, dude. And I've been training for seven months.

Isn't it ever sketchy? Like, you ever feel like you're going to fuck it. Well, I mean, you train. You train. I mean, of course there's going to be like wind. Like at first. first wind scared the crap out of me dude it's like boom just the whole thing rocks and you're like we're dying but it's like what it's designed to handle it's yeah it's fantastic and now i'm just

i'm literally just getting to where it's like you know beautiful outside i'm literally britt i'm gonna go fly i jump in the helicopter i go to a friend's house land at his house hang out with him fly home like it's the greatest freedom on the planet and it's so weirdly like not that um There's not a lot of laws with it. Like it feels in Ohio. It feels very, yeah, of course.

It feels very behind the times. Like every time I'm flying, I'm like, how is this legal? Like how are more people not doing this almost? How is this not legal? And why are we not teaching that this is a reachable achievement? This is reachable for people.

I never knew. How much the helicopter costs? There's all different prices. Well, yours. Yeah. I bought, um,

my first one, it's like 600. Okay. Okay. Okay, so almost like a million dollars. It's like a, it's, it's, it's a great helicopter. I really like it. But that is achievable, achievable.

Yeah. Like, I'd rather buy a helicopter than a Lamborghini, dude. Like, I'm still stuck in traffic with a Lamborghini. Like, I don't care, dude. And helicopters are just like, how much time do you have to spend to learn how to fly helicopters to fly one officially? Dude, I'll tell you this. Those first 10 hours is like crazy, crazy. You need 40 hours with an instructor.

You have to take a written exam. and pass a check ride. I still have to take my check ride. I haven't done that yet. In order to fly with passengers, like if you came over, let's get in a helicopter, I cannot do that

until I pass my check ride. Got it. I can fly so low. I feel like it's way different here in Cali. It's like that you probably can't do this at all. It's probably very stressful. Yeah. Because there's so much airspace restrictions here.

You just have to understand it. You can definitely do it. But it's just, yeah. You're probably radio calling out of your property. You've somewhat inspired me to want a helicopter. Dude, it's, it is spreading like wildfire, bro. You get in a helicopter, it's game over. It's game over.

It's honestly one of the fucking craziest things about you. It's pretty funny to me. It's that whole concept. I just imagine you like waking up being like, I'm gonna go fly my helicopter. Oh my God, please. And then go to your friend's house. Oh, it makes him so happy. Nothing else makes him that happy.

Facts every time I, every time, I love what that's coming. Every from her is just beautiful. Bro, every time I come home from flying, she's like, you need to fly every day because I'm excited dude I'm so happy like you've never felt freedom like hopping in your own helicopter in your backyard and going to visit a buddy that sounds insane like you're just looking down at the car is like I'm already there like you said in my mind it seems unachievable my exact thought my exact thought I didn't think that was achievable I didn't know humans could just go by a helicopter and fly it I didn't not know that was a thing yeah I thought

you had to own a business that you had to own a business or be part of the government or a med flight or something. I think we shouldn't put this out because there's more people going to think and they're just going to get helicopters. The airspace is going to be fucking crowded, dude. Another thing super cool that I learned through the training is I always just assume

probably from war movies if a helicopter shuts off, it just falls to the ground and explodes. Which makes sense, right? That's exactly what I think would happen. If it stops, you just fall and tumble and die. It's incredible how helicopter

Descend, there's a there's a sprag clutch in those rotor blades, right? Have you ever blown on one of those little windmill things? Yeah, of course. Yeah. And they spin with the wind, right? Yeah. Just as if you had engine failure in a helicopter, that sprag clutch allows the rotor to spin freely. And now you are working off the descent rate and the air through the rotor system. So you're, dude, you float through the sky. You so you go out, you go. You go. You go. You go. You go. You go. You go. You go. You go. You go. go up there and just turn it off and like go like this you literally float down bro it's unbelievable it's it's incredible like i don't know how to explain it we we've done a hundred of them you go up and you shut the all the power off and you have to go all the way to the oh that sounds fun it's unbelievable do you like it or you scared it's not sound fun um i started all of my ground training because i'm like well i get like super car sick and i think it's like a control thing So I'm like, when we flew in the helicopter, I was like, I feel like I have to at least know what's going on to like not be sick and for safety. You can just say he convinced you to, to take those, you know, he probably convinced you to fucking learn how to do it.

Well, yeah, I wouldn't have ever done that on my own. Well, I think, I think for us, it's like we have four kids, right? Yeah. So I love, love the idea of like both of us understanding how to pilot that helicopter. Yeah, if something to happen to him, I've got to fine. Yeah. God forbid one of them. us have an issue the other one has enough education to land that helicopter and that's like that's

kind of where my mind is yeah it makes you need you need to understand this machine which by the way is one of the hardest things i've ever done in my life to understand it by far okay well that's so that's why this is more it is the most ridiculous machine to maneuver that you can ever imagine i don't know how to explain it i do not know how to explain it it's like if i handed you a unicycle right now if you couldn't do it you die that's a helicopter you cannot ride that unicycle until you learn how bro that's a helicopter it'd be like uh holding up a plate and putting a marble in the middle and you have to keep the marble dead center that's flying a helicopter it's like naturally that marble's going to want to go to the edge and just roll like you can't keep it in the middle

Sounds TING TIRIFI Yeah Like What the fuck It's Listen I don't know if I want to do it

No more If the helicopter was If the helicopter was just Invented And they were like Try this The first thing I would say Is number one

It's not built right And it'll never fly Then you get in With an instructor And you're hovering And for the first five hours You're in a full blown Wet sweat

Death gripping The cyclic And you're trying Your heart out Nothing you do keeps that helicopter straight it's nothing you do i don't want to do it anymore i take it back man i take it back i was pre-worn like this is the hardest thing you'll ever do and i'm like come on bro it's a helicopter they fly they hover no you hover it bro when i come to ohio you got to take me in

this helicopter yeah so you have to whatever your check thing is yeah you got to do that yeah yeah it's my next thing it's the only thing i have left i'm done i'm just waiting for the test I'm down to come Before we get out of here What has been your favorite podcast episode so far? Who has been your favorite guest? Bradley Martin hands down No

You just because you just No man I don't God I was just asked this And I couldn't answer it I'm probably being just like Favoritism towards my father But he did a podcast with me Like I did a podcast with him

And it was unbelievable Like really really good um noas was awesome yeah my son like they've like they all have such moments they all have such moments i have been so thankful for every podcast episode i've got to i have personally learned so much through my podcast already yeah it's the best one some episodes in yeah like every guest has come with something so awesome like in their own i think we're all so you could pull a guy off the street right now and throw them right here and probably be fascinated with his life story you know it's crazy a lot of people have asked me to do that on my

podcast i get a random person you should i feel like we are all like if you hear anybody's story it's it's incredible like we all have such journeys yeah like to even make it to where we are right now it's such a journey like it would take you know how long to explain it no it's crazy yeah no it's beautiful man this type of content is like hands down my favorite And it's the stuff I'll definitely do for many, many years to come. Yeah, that's my plan too. It's just like I want to make sure I'm always just having fun with it and not taking it too serious. It's like, because you already know having a podcast, what's the hardest part?

Getting guests. Yeah. Having guests. And then you start to panic. I don't have no guests lined up. And then so I'm trying to just like keep it fun, keep it chill. Don't panic. Yeah.

Just keep going. Yeah. When you guys could always even even if you have, since you have two people, could always just riff on topics and stuff as well so just yeah we're gonna we're gonna try that for the first time like actually try to riff on like popular topics yeah yeah that's something i i'd like to do as well i just need a i need a fucking co-host yeah i can't do about my i mean i can do it by myself but it's like it's not as fun there's something nice about talking to a human yeah yeah yeah well soon you'll have your AI yeah dude that oh that that other thing

you guys showed me at the spot the fucking yeah proto thing i'll have that set up and then i'll just have someone talk to me. Yeah, you can just beam them in from anywhere. Damn. I think we got to figure it out. It's fun stuff. Yeah, I think we figured it out. Lots to look forward to. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you coming, man. I appreciate you coming to pop for real. And you've done so much in this space. It's fucking incredible. And I love your message, like your overall message, smile more. Because like, honestly, like, that's all this shit really comes down to. Because like, like, we were talking earlier about being happy and the things that you're actually doing, not just doing something because you think someone else is it's cool. You want a success

that someone else has. But like that, that idea of smile. Miley Moore reminds me of just all of that. Just remember why you're doing something. Thank you, enjoy it and truly love it. Yeah, I live by it. I try to live by it. Yeah, it shows, man.

I mean, you have tons of success. You guys are fucking really chill people. Like, it shows in person, you know? It's not just like some online shit. They're like, oh, they'll probably be this way. You're just exactly like that. Thank you. So it's beautiful.

And I appreciate you coming on the show. Dude, it's so good to get some time with you. Yeah. Like, I've seen you for so many years. We've obviously bumped into each other. We've met and chatted, but we've never like, Just chill. Yeah, that's good.

I'm serious, though. I do really want to come riding the helicopter. Cool. I am afraid of it, but after what you explained, the fucking ball on the plate thing, I'm like, I don't want to die. Accidents happen, but the goal is to not have that happen, yeah. Yeah, to figure your shit out. And then I'm going to come. You figure your end out.

We have a guest house come anytime. I'd love to come for real. So I appreciate you guys coming. Thanks, brother. Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you.