RAWTALK - RYAN GARCIA ON THE DARK SIDE OF BOXING, FIGHTING JAKE PAUL,MIKE TYSON'S FIGHT ON PLANE.

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

This episode is a guarantee knock out with our guest that is 22-0 , 18 KO'S...RYAN GARCIA! Join us in the ring as we dig into the life of a boxer, Ryan Garcia.We take a couple punches at the boxing world, recovery through injury, his comeback, and goals as a boxer. Then we applied some pressure in the conversation and got into mental health, depression, social media, poker, fatherhood, purpose and aliens?! SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

Yes, you had a good eye. We kind of have the same. We got the same look going on. Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah. It's cool. It's like, it's kind of like, you saw me do it, and then you were like, I'm going to do it.

Nah, it's like, I've done this before, and I knew it was going to feel good. Oh, you knew it feel good? Yeah. Or you saw me, and then you're like, yo, what he's got going on. All right, man, fuck it, yeah. Yeah. So anyways, I got Ryan Garcia on the podcast, and this is crazy because you were probably one of the first podcast I've ever done

years and years and years ago. Like, legit years ago. Like, how old are you now? 23 I think this must mean you were 18 18 before you blew up on social media Before you blew up I mean obviously you were boxing at the time But before you like really started to take off

And I think one of the things I go start this off One of the things I find most interesting about you At least at this point now Is that you did a really really good job At like you have to be one of the first boxers In the history of boxing like it must spend the timeline And everything but to really leverage social media Yeah

Yeah, I would say, I would say so. I was the one that took advantage of what was, you know, out there. I mean, social media really does give you an opportunity to reach so many people. And I did it in the time where no boxer was doing it. So I introduced boxing to social media, which paid off for me because it brought in endorsements and eyes on me that I probably wouldn't have had. Or maybe I would have had. I don't know, you know, because I am a great box. it just so happened to be and I was smart enough to see that it was going to be

important so I'm happy I made that decision because it brought me a lot of freedom what made you think it was going to be important like how did you like okay when you were doing it what made you think okay this is going to be a thing for my career well I just thought like a lot of people my age were they were doing social media already right and then I mean if you combine the two you know that boxing is a business. So I said to myself, if more people know who I am, I'm going to have more leverage on whatever I want to do. And I can make better decisions because I have, like, when I'm saying freedom, I'm meaning promoters usually make you feel like you can't decipher yourself

or what's best because they have all the control. Like you need them. You need them. They got you on their networks. You know, you have no power, you know, say, but say I have power of the people. You know, everybody wants to watch me So I could really do whatever I want And you can't really control me When did you realize that? Like was it just because through social media Because I remember the things that was making you viral

In the beginning was how like you'd show the hand speed And obviously you're fast as fuck as a boxer But are those the things that Like when they started popping and you saw the engagement Were you like oh okay I have this power Because obviously it doesn't just happen You just wake up one day with millions of followers But it started to build

Like were there certain influencers Or were there certain people that you saw Along the way that you were like Oh I can start doing shit shit like this or if I can do videos in my lane like that then I could see that success I noticed every time I attempted to try to do what everyone else was doing on social media it never worked so like you now I tried you now shit didn't work nobody watched me talking about like the live streaming stuff yeah nobody watched me but every time I just stayed true

to myself and was authentic you know all my videos started blowing up and you know I just paid attention to how I looked in the video like if I look good if the hand speed was fast in the video and if the lighting was good and then when I I combine all three of those

and you know it caught steam and obviously I'm no dummy I'm if it's not broken I'm not gonna fix it and never broke and the videos I mean still to this day if I post a cobra bag video

it's gonna do for four million three million views I guess it's just what people like to see people don't see speed like that a lot and you can't replicate it because it's just my talent right you know and do you think because i know there's people on the internet who like will argue like do you think it's it's easier though to like shoot content and video and stuff like that versus being an actual great boxer because you know people will say like oh he looks good on here and there but like

is he a great boxer is different because obviously that's like a that's a skill it's a video yeah it's it's look it it's what it is it's a it's a I could do great MIT videos, and I could also fight any great fight. I just so happening to be both. Now, if you can't distinguish the two, like, yeah, he's training, and then there's a fight. If people can't distinguish that, I don't know what to tell them. You know, it's funny. It's like, I can't help idiotic people see things that, how they should be seen.

Like, it's just true. Like, this is a training video, and I'm not going to fucking try to be perfect in technique, because that's not what people want to see on the video. they want to see speed power explosion coolness whatever blah blah and then in the fight then that's when i'm going to work on strategy you know i could i could separate the two people can't so yeah no it's funny i relate to this because like i you know i post all the videos like lifting girls all this dumb shit yeah like it's like people think like do i actually train like that that's like like not at all he almost fucking oh yolo the mic dude i do this

no constantly so it's like people would be like yo you're fucking like you don't know how to train like I'm not actually training like like my actual training is not that you know that's just for literally for the internet because I think it looks cool visually cool but so do you did you ever get a lot of hate from people on the internet or just like people talking shit like in regards to the fact that you're popular on social and then like you know that you're obviously a great boxer still still fucking undefeated right 22 and so people are like gunning for you and do you have people who think that because I've always had this question I've always had this question I've always always had this question in relationship to boxing do they give boxers this is like the dark side of boxing do they get boxers yeah do they give boxers easy fights or easier fights than they should when they see potential for like a massive bag because like if you started losing they're going to be like okay the bag value is less right isn't that how it works i mean i think it's all they they're very strategic some people overdo that and then some people do it perfectly like me i think i'm handling my career perfect you know i think i'm taking the right

forwarding steps and i'm growing i'm only 23 you know i'm maturing and i'm fighting the fighters you know it's just leveling up you know you're leveling up the way you need to but not you don't want to go in and fight the champion and you only got 10 fights like it just doesn't make sense so but some people overdo it they have like 30 30 bums you're fighting i want to say bums i want so is this but no i get it like obviously you're going to be it like obviously you're know what I mean like you obviously a great fighter and great fighters it's not like they're not fighting people who don't know how to fight at all that's not what I'm saying at all like boxing is still boxing and you can still go in there and get knocked out period but I'm just trying

to understand like like what have you you and your camp done to pick not necessarily pick the right fights but like how are you knowing where to go because I always find it so interesting because I from my perspective on the outside is like there's certain fights that people want to see you make they want to see you take and then you're not taking them now but you're kind of like waiting for that right moment like how are you deciding those moments what the fuck is that i think sorry sorry yo my bad yeah he's like go ahead no i think it just comes to if it makes sense like at the time like yeah this this makes sense like i know that this fight that i'm going to be having my net hopefully where i'm campaigned for i'm trying to negotiate with this guy's

name is uh isaac pit bull cruise and he had he had he get he went 12 rounds with gervante davis okay and obviously jervante davis is the guy that everybody wants me to fight yeah so they're going to be they're comparing everything we do when we fight they're compared all but you didn't look here but he didn't look here so i think this fight makes a lot of sense for me because cambosis and haine who are the champions uh i think i think i do that why you canbos is the only champion because I don't think Devon Haney won the championship which he didn't but anyways

I think they're locked up I love the shit they're fighting they're locked up they're locked up Javante's fighting Roleys okay and we're the only one everybody wants to see this fight with this guy that gave Tank hell basically beat Tank basically a lot of people

would say that but but he didn't technically but he didn't technically and I think Tank won but a lot of people are saying this guy you're going to fight this guy hopefully if he accepts the offers that are you should accept it why not like we get though a big old fighting stable or what crypto.com yeah it's like it's so funny you gotta call it down is that man crypto dot go yeah so stable centers sound a little better just so it was so easy just roll off the tongue easier yeah so is is that fight in the future though is there

the davis fight in the future 1,000% I think because that's the fight I want to fucking see I'm not going to lie if i was being completely transparent i would say the fight would be summer of 2023 if i if i could give anybody it's if it's like a movie right coming out yeah that movie's coming out next year you think it's next year yeah because i think that i don't know actually i don't know for sure i can't say but i'm saying if i if i could really pinpoint it like if i'm using my brain here 2023 in summer summer of 2023 I think it would go down

how do you think that fight's going to go down besides you thinking you're going to win obviously because I obviously I think I'm going to win obviously you know I don't want to break down too much because I don't want to him to see his flaws just kind of want to I know I know his flaws but we're just going to look at the facts that he can't change he's five what four five five five yeah I'm five 10 he has to

come in he's not hard to hit as we've seen him get hit in almost all his fights many times and his face bruises up very easily so if these guys that are not that skilled and don't have the timing I have can hit him I know I could find a hit and my hits hurt more than those guys so to me I knock him out within four rounds I mean there's a high chance probably a 90% chance I knock him out maybe more betters betters you listen to in betters that's a good odds if you ask 90% on that 90% I knock him out within if you take a knockout for real 100% because he's got a hard ass head no no knockout knockout damn I love it yeah yeah he has explosion power but to me I just know with

that fight it'll be a lot easier than it looks like outside the ring like people don't understand that because they're not fighters they don't know but I could look past the illusion yeah I know how it would be in the ring my presence is too big for him He's just, he's too small. I mean, there's not, and he's a great, he could, if he stayed down on the lower weight classes, yeah, he'll be a, he'll be a menace for everyone. Yeah. But not, he's no way he's going to compete with the elite guy that's five, ten.

Tall or longer. Tall, tall, long, absolutely no chance. Yeah. Absolutely no chance. So 90% I knock him out. 100,000% I beat him. Yeah, I love it. So you could bet on either money line or knockout.

Yeah. You got pretty good odds on both. I'm definitely going to bet on that fight. And you know he's going to be the favorite because everybody's just delusional, but that's the time to make money is when there's a underdog, which I don't mind being called, but I will sleep in. Have you always been this confident throughout your whole career? No.

I think I recently got to a point where I'm just so confident in my abilities. I now I kind of truly know who I am. You know, I'm very confident in myself as a man as just, the talent i have that i know that any situation i'll figure it out so i'm very confident right now so as a boxer but also as just a human yeah just as all right guys quick interruption we got another sponsor this is ship station now shout out ship station because before you guys all know raw gear right now the clothing company the apparel company the lifestyle brand it was called being fit gear and i used ship station for like the last dude i don't even know six years and it's one of the

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so again go to shipstation dot com go to a little microphone type in raw talk and get 60 days for free uh yeah let's get back into this podcast but let's talk about outside the ring then i know you dealt with some mental health stuff um recently yeah and it kind of and you also had a injury yeah it kind of got you out of the game a little bit i broke my wrist a little bit no i had i had major uh some some little ligament damage not major i wouldn't say major but how long couldn't you use it um i mean look yeah if i'm being honest i haven't been able to use my right hand fully for three years so i fought luke campbell with one hand pretty much i fought you know all these guys with a limited right hand like nowhere even your last fight my last fight my hand had it healed completely

hundred that's why a couple times you see me throw it a little weird but I was like man I've been out of the ring so long I got to just go and do it and we did I did everything I can to make it feel better and now it's really it's really good that was solid so everything's better but yeah I was dealing with that but I also you know had a lot of mental health issues but it really didn't have nothing to do with boxing like that's what people don't realize Like people like, oh, he's scared of fighting. Oh, what the fuck I'm scared? Well, I mean, you got to understand.

People would say that. Their perception, though, is of you just as a box. That's how most people are going to know you. I know that. But if they could just use your brain a little bit. I know. I'm also a human being. Of course.

Golly. I know that. I was, I, people walk up to me. I see them as human being. I don't say, oh, you're a doctor, whatever you are. You know what I mean? That's it. Man, that's all you are.

No, I'm going to understand that you got feelings. You know, I'm just. all right, I'm supposed to be tough but in a situation I may have been a little weak, you know, weak mind and it's not even weak mind. I was going through an injury. It's completely fucking normal. Yeah, it's completely normal. And dude, you're

fucking young as fuck. I was figuring out a lot of shit, man. Yeah. I was figuring out a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff outside the ring that was causing me internally to just go haywire. And it was just a lot of things. I just couldn't get out of that, you know, smoking

just weird things. What do you think was the biggest thing that was fucking you up i think just stuff outside the ring you like what though if you're comfortable talking about it i think it'd be beneficial okay well i think drinking you know outside of the ring the way i was that's and i have nothing against ring there's nothing wrong with drinking it's just why you're doing it and if you if you just abuse anything and i wasn't an alcoholic i'm not saying i was right but i was overdoing it and i lost sight of who i am as a a person you know i love god and i love doing being an honest man and doing all the right things like i really i want that's who i truly am at heart right and i think that you know through

this life and through a lot of stuff that was happening all that got mixed up you know i mean i lost side of what you know what's my purpose you know i'm always thinking purpose and just everything i do is a hundred percent and i i stopped you know i stopped caring the way i usually do yeah and it kind of of all just came down on me especially after the Campbell fight you know I won it's not like I lost I was on cloud 9 but one reality checked me

and God checked me and I'm not going to speak for God but I'm what I'm thinking right of course like I felt like God checked me like no you got to fix some things so it was just in relationship to just fucking off and just drinking and like you couldn't know you could be better it wasn't I'm not going to say

it's all on drinking it's just on it's just me growing up as a man That's it. Like, I don't know. I think I had to go through this. It helped me mature and realize a lot of things. Yeah. And I can't really go in depth on it, but.

Yeah, I get it. Yeah. I think it's significant, though, it's important because a lot of people, like I said, and even me, they'll see you or people they see on the internet or celebrities and are like, this person is just this. Like, you're an actor or you're a boxer or you're a fitness influence. Whatever, they look at this person like. And like, you are, like you said, just a fucking human.

And not only that, you're a young man. Yeah. like growing learning like dealing with pressure so much of it at a super high level and i think that's what not people are people don't realize like i'm it was it's a lot of pressure on me i mean i've had pressure on me since i was what 18 19 when i blew up every fight it's like it's almost like the super bowl like they're all like even if i win every round and do everything i have to do it's like if it wasn't good enough you're not good enough If you're shit, you know, and they make it feel like my whole life is collapsing, you know, especially or if you're losing steam, right?

Say, say, yeah, you're the hype ain't really there, but that's fine because when a big fight happens, it will be there. But people will notice, like, say, it's not as hype right now. Oh, you're falling out. You're this. Like, so people, they really want to bring a man with a dream down because they don't have no dreams and they don't know what that means, you know? And I definitely see it. But now I look at it like the truth like man how miserable do you have to be to really try to notice everything that's happening in my life and just to be negative and I say to myself you know what I'm young. I'm a millionaire. I'm doing the thing I love. You know what? You're miserable and I'm not. That's it. Like that's all comfortable with that. You're miserable. I'm not and I'm very comfortable. You stay. I don't know what to tell you. You're just miserable and I'm not. It's something that I've always been so curious about because I've been in this game

Not boxing none of that shit I haven't dealt with that sort of pressure But being on the internet and like having to succeed or get views or get likes or appear a certain way I know that it takes a fucking toll it's a massive toll and I do think it's not gonna be easy Yeah, it's not gonna be easy it's it's not supposed to be easy but I do think people have this perception Which is like they think it's easy Yeah and then if you're not doing what they think you should be doing like it's it's just it's a it's a weird place because For you to even have to sit there and say you know I'm this I'm that I know I don't want to but sometimes you got to clap back

at that like do you really want this do you want to tell okay fuck you I'm making a lot of money what are you're going to do now yeah and it's also like it's also like it's also like is because the person that hate is like where does that come from I don't understand on the internet like this I'm nothing but love it's weird right and then it's weird because I hope I represent or I try to at least is like yo I care for everybody I don't say no to pictures like when I have the fans I talk to them I I show nothing but I hug you them you know I just give my heart out and it's just so odd to me that they still find anything you know to really nitpick at it I think it comes down to someone's own like purpose like you said

the thing that you have that purpose right I think people are trying to find that in their lives and it's easier for me to like shoot shots at you if I'm not in you know I'm not in your circumstances to almost if I'm an outsider to make myself feel better about my purpose or my situation to be like fuck that guy he's not as good as he could be because now my emphasis and my focus is on you and your life and not having to reflect and look inward towards my life, right? So that's what tends to happen. That's the truth.

But I think for you, it's important to understand as like a young man, like none of that's personal for you. But I wonder, did you ever take it personal? I would say so. I've taken a lot of stuff personal. I think it's just because I'm a sensitive guy. Yeah. Just who I am.

I'm very sensitive. I'm very intuned to my feeling. So when somebody says something, I always question myself, like, why are they saying this? like and then I think to myself like does that make sense am I representing that you start to question it I question it but in an honest way if they're absolutely off fuck you you know what I mean but if I could see something I might take it as constructive

criticism and apply it to my life sometimes I read the bad comments I'm like yeah I should probably fix that all right yeah you know I do it too but I it's like but I'm just a I'm just a fair person like yeah i'm not going to be a dictator but i'm also not going to let you run over me like it's i just see it how it is if it makes sense then all right man you got that it's a balance you could have you could have said it in a better way but i get it you know what i mean so it's all about the balance yeah so how do you balance being a father that's great you know because this is one of the craziest things because you've had a dad is uh is awesome i'm still learning i don't i don't say i'm not a master at it but i know that my girls love me when they see you

see me and we have the best time and you know I think it's just teaching them when they get older obviously they're babies right now they're not like they can't they're not aware yeah but just showing them what a good man is and being a good role model and telling them how a man should treat them and giving them all the the knowledge that you have so you could try to structure their life better than it was for you yeah I know I'm gonna provide the best life for them and give them my whole heart and everything and my time all my all my efforts is going to be towards building a better life for them so that they have a great head start and they have a great head space like emotionally physically financially everything everything

matters and uh my life is just it's different now because i have that responsibility it's a priority it's a different it's a different love like like no matter how hard it is like you go and do what you got to do for them like fuck that like that's your baby girl that's a different motivation It's a different because you have no choice. No choice, but it's awesome because you want to do it. It's like the love you have for your, when you look at it says it's almost like you, but it's not you. Right. But, you know, you love yourself, right?

Yeah, of course. And then it's like you see them. It's like, man, they're looking up to you. It's a part of you. It's a party and they're looking up to you. They call you dad. You don't know that feeling until once they say dad, right? And then they're really conscious.

Like my daughter Riley, she's three. She says daddy. like I want to do this and I'm like what like I want to go here I want to go to Target I want to go get Play-Doh I'm like and then you can't say no because it's like that was the cutest thing ever yeah let's go get some Play-Doh for the million time yeah let's go watch whatever show Cocoa Mellon or whatever she watches a thousand times does it ever get hard to balance like the training and the being the father I just say to myself get what you got to get done because it's going to help them in the long run so

If it takes a while and I don't see them, then I'm like, I got to get this done. Like, I just have to. Like, just priorities. Like, I got to get this done. I got to handle this. And then, you know. Do you have family and stuff helping you? Yeah.

Okay. And how was your upbringing, your childhood? Like, did you grow up? Like, was it all fancy? Was it all nice? No. No, no, no. My upbringing, I grew, I lived my, I lived my, I lived the first three years, four years, five years of my life in

Rancho Cucamonga, which was good, but I don't remember any of it. Yeah, but as I got older when I was growing up, where I was raised was Victorville, California. Yeah, I remember. Obviously, a small town, you know I was from there. Yeah. Middle of nowhere. Yeah, middle of nowhere. And then I was in this town, it's called Adalanto, which is pretty much the ghetto of a ghetto place.

Yeah. So, you know, it was a tough, tough, it was tough, but, you know, when you're in there, you don't think it's tough. Right. It's normal. Like, it's normal. Like, for a time being, I was living, we were living in a little house with maybe one room, maybe, and six kids, five kids. Holy fuck. So that ain't too fun. Holy shit. But my dad built a, he built, he built kind of like a shed, and then he hung up the bag, and then he had me training. So no matter what, we found a way. Like that, and that really taught me, like, whatever I'm in, I'm not scared. I'm going to find what we're. works at that you're going to find a way like whatever hand i'm dealt this is why i love poker but

whatever i love poker yeah whatever hand i'm dealt i just don't i don't care what it is i just play it the best way it could be played yeah and that's how i see life whatever hand i'm doubt at the time whether it's aces or jack two off suit and only poker players know what i mean i'm gonna play it the best way i could possibly play it if i got a fold i'm a fold yeah but don't worry the battle ain't over yeah so wait until i get another hand i admire that though Who taught you that? Myself, man. Just living.

Just living. And I honestly, a lot of, I would credit a lot of mine and I was just blessed God what God gave me, you know? And just really trying to find the answers. You just got to try. Like, don't let life pass you by. Really ask the questions. I ask questions all the time in my mind. Yeah.

I'm very curious. I think that's what it has to do. Like, I'm just curious person. Me too. My whole life. I ask everything. Like, why does that look good? Why doesn't that look good?

Yeah, it's missing something. I just always ask questions. Until I find it right, then I'm like, that's fire. Yeah. So your dad got you into boxing? My uncle Sergio, he seen me. He always said that. Because how do you know?

How do you know someone's going to be good at boxing? I'm going to tell you a story. So my uncle, he said because they grew up and they were playing a bunch of different sports, which none of it worked because we're Mexican and we are not good in any sports. other than boxing and soccer. Really good. Really good. We're really good in boxing and soccer, right?

Or football. Football. Yeah. Right. Sorry. I just don't want anybody to come at me. It's all good. But, but, but, but, um, so he was saying, like, we need to be, because he tried boxing

later on, he was really good, but he was, he got too, it was too late. You know what I mean? He was already older, but he was great. He was winning national. He won a national, I think, or made it to the national. He made it to the national. He was like, man, this is crazy. Like, so.

many people are here like he was amazed by how far he was able to go in such a short time so what he said to himself was when in somewhere down in our lineage because there's going to be a fighter so anytime there was a boy born he would always look at him and say not it not working dang doesn't have it and he said when I was born he knew he was like no way that's his word from birth that's his words man what the fuck yeah and he knew so and then when I was playing baseball I asked him and I need a sport one on one and he's the you know which one it is you know it's boxing and then I was like all right I'll try it at what age was this seven okay seven six or end of six start of seven yeah and he took me into the garage and placed the mitts in front of me and once

I heard that sound it was like destiny started I was like all right it's time to go when did you start to realize you were really good at it when everybody would stop and watch me but Everybody, like, my whole life, everybody would just stop and just watch what I'm doing. Like, I don't know, I explained it. Like, I would hit the midst and the whole gym would stop and be like, the fuck. Like, who is the sound? Because the speed. The sound, everything.

Like, I just started noticing that it wasn't normal because I would watch other kids and nobody would care. Like, and I'm sorry to say that, but that's just how it is. No, I get it. Yeah. Like, everybody would just, Ryan's sparring. It's all watch. Oh, Ryan's this. And I'm like, it kind of just led into, like, I was supposed to be where I'm supposed

to be like you're going to be a great fighter a superstar like everybody just kind of would always tell me little things like that yeah what's like when i when i first fucking met you back when you were 18 yeah you're gonna blow up you said the same thing and i'm like there's a lot of good signs that are yeah yeah for damn sure this can't be a coincidence yeah so so what do you attribute it to really to gifts of god that you're blessed with i mean everybody has their own gifts and it's just how best you could use them. And realize it's everything. But everybody's blessed with talents,

but you also, like, you've got to do the work. Like, you can't just expect things to come to you. Like, it's not going to be easy. When I started running and things get a little hard, I'm like, this is the part. Like, this is what's going to separate me from everyone else because most people are like, ha, it's a little too high.

I've got to go. Like, I'm done. Like, to me, it's like, once I get hard, I think to myself, finally, this is my time to separate. myself like yes like when i got to drop with lu camp i most people would be like i'm embarrassed like to me i said to myself this is my time to be great like this is going to separate me i'm a step to him like i had in my mind like i'm stepping to him right now let's go like i wasn't

afraid of the moment because i knew i just i knew that's in me and it's always going to be in me like i'm ready to be great i want to be great i'm i'm intentionally trying to be great some people say oh you don't like greatness is just no i'm intentionally trying to be great I'm a final way to be great. Yeah. Find a way to beat everybody. If I got to fight you twice, three times, I'm going to beat your ass. I'm finding a way to beat your ass.

Yeah. That's how I am. Yeah, I remember after that fight, that was the thing. Everyone was like, yo, like, because you took shots and it came back. And everyone was like, oh, shit. This kid's, that's when I think people were like, okay, this is like, for real, for real. Not that you weren't for real prior. They just never seen it.

Right. And he was a gold medalist. Like, this guy's a gold medalist, a South Paul, Rangy. Yeah. had way more experience than me. I mean, I was just, you know, that was a big fight. That wasn't a walking. People don't know who that is because they don't.

That was a huge fight. It's a huge fight. This dude's from the UK, you know, the Brits are smart. Those guys are sharp. And he had a great trainer with him, Shane McGuigan. And, you know, I was, I was just hungry. Like, he even said it himself, he seemed, he was like, and I was looking at your eyes in the ring.

I said myself, no way I'm beating. this guy. Damn, he told you that? He was like, there's the aura around you. I was like, he was like, I knew you were just, he was like, you were, you were just something different. Yeah. He's like, I knew I wasn't beating you.

Like, you were just on me. It was too much. How do you think you get that? Like, when do you think you started to have that? This is what I'm so curious in. Like, you know, in people in great, like great, great, great, like great to have done all this stuff. I think you're, you're like on that path to be one of those people.

I definitely feel that way too. But like, what, what point are you like? you noticing that fire obviously like you said all the moments like for you to separate you say okay this this this mile this next two miles i know it's super fucking hard but this is what's going to separate me but like when did you really start to realize that and feel that i think it's a combination of every you have to have everything you have to have the speed the power i'm i'm saying i'm talking about it complied to your sport or whatnot but for me it's like you have to have the speed you have to have the power you have to have the IQ you have to have the look you have to

have the charm you really have to have every i think all that recipe and then you you drive in it with insane work ethic and and and trying to find all the little details all the edges you could find and you mix it's like a recipe you put all the ingredients in you stir it up you just right you're right spiritually you have to be right spiritually meant everything has to be on point yeah that's when that's when everything comes and you just you're just glowing there's something about you and you're just like i think that's what it is yeah it's when you take advantage of every ounce that you could possibly and you squeeze it as much as you can as much as you can and all of it just comes out all pretty and good yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what I mean like

you got to be a weird though like you got to be a weird you got to be obsessed like everything matters the way you look the way you talk like it's and it's just everything matters yeah especially in the fight game in the fight game for me I'm talking about from a fighter's perspective I don't know I don't really know much else I'm I'm just a fighter for first. I've done this since I was seven years old. Everything I relate to is like fighting. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like momentum, building it up, seeing, you know, if that shot's working, I'm going to continue to do it. If that video is working, I'm going to continue

to do it. For me, it's like boxing has so much perils to everything. Poker. Shit, all right, this guy's a little weak. He's losing all his chips. Fucking get his ass. Like, put pressure on him. Like, make him lose all his shit. It's funny how you relate boxing to everything else, and I feel like I relate, I can relate training to everything else. You can. Because it's that same sort of like overcoming, being able to get better through like figuring out like your weak points and adding all those pieces together. Being very honest with yourself.

That's key. Gotta be honest with yourself. Don't beat. Like they say don't believe in hype. Just really be honest. Like, yo, I even, I could show you. I have so much notes from my last fight. I still have a lot to work on.

From watching your last fight. I mean, you could see. I'm not going to show you, but like I wrote so much notes from just little things that. I know I could fix. I have been out of the game. This is from watching your fight. I've been out of the game for a year and a half. And I noticed certain things that I had already was fixing.

But then came back. And plus the crowd, like, I couldn't, I couldn't stop listening to the crowd. I was caring too much about. Oh, you remember that. When you were fighting, you remember listening. Yes. I listened to the crowd because I wanted them to be excited. I just came back.

So I wanted to give the fans a great fight, but the dude was moving his home. So, like, as you're fighting. you're thinking this yes I'm like dude I'm like yeah I'm like motherfucker get over here and fight a little bit come on these fans are bored bro because the dude just can't move which I don't knock his game plan but throw

punches at least because now you're just literally ducking and holding ducking and hold I could only I can't fight for two people like I you can't have heart for two people yeah I could only have heart for myself like that's what I was thinking I was like but then I was like if I just didn't care about the crowd

at that moment I could have I knew what to do, lure him in. Like, okay, you could hit me, hit me. Bang. Then bang. Then I catch him. But again, been out of the ring for a year and a half. And these are little things that I could fix.

That's why my next fight, that's really what I feel like is my return. Honestly, I really feel like they call this fight the return, but this is like, now I'm fucking on it. Like, I'm ready to fucking explode. And then it's going to be, hopefully it's going to be. be in L.A. And that's just going to be sexy as hell. All my friends are going to come out. Yeah, I got to pull out. Nobody could really come out to San Antonio. Yeah. But everybody would come out over here. Everyone would come out over here. All of you guys. I know like all my, everyone will pull up. Everyone will pull up. I'm pulling up for sure. Your fights are always

dope, bro. It's not as I know. That's what I'm saying. Like, I'm always going to bring those speed. You're always going to get speed and explosion. That's what you should expect. And that's fun. And you know me, I don't want to give you a bad fight. Like, I, The fact that you're in there fighting someone thinking about what the crowd's thing is crazy. Because I knew the guy could have beat me. I'm in front of the ring and I'm like, I'm fighting him. I'm like, gosh, dude.

He's number six in the world. He's number six in the world. And he's never, he hasn't lost a fight in 15 years. So this dude was 32 and one, I believe. He only lost his pro debut. So it wasn't like he was bad. I would just way better than him. Who's your hardest fight?

Because I'm curious. You got to have fights here and you're like, yo, I have to be 100% here. Like, who's the guy you could look back on and say, You know what? They're all going to be pretty difficult in their own right. Like you got Cambosis. That's pretty fast and has pretty good technique.

I know what he's lacking. But you got Devin Haney, also very good, rangy moves, but doesn't have much power. But that's fine. You know, some people just don't have power. You got Tank Davis, which does have power, but he's very short and just, I'm going to beat his ass. He knows it. You know it. I love it.

And then, I mean, you got Lomachenko, very technical, but I feel he's too small. All of them have their thing where it's going to be tough. We all got our own strategies. It's all going to be a thinking game. It's all going to be at the moment, how it is, you know. It's hard for me to say who's the toughest fight. I don't know. Who was your toughest fight?

Oh, so far? Yeah, so if you can't say, Luke Campbell. Hardest fight, you've been. Hardest fight, yeah. Technical-wise, he was great. He didn't make a lot of mistakes. you're noticing the fight where he didn't reach a lot. Most people reach and then you counter him.

He was very good at his distance and he was tricky himself. He would fake me a little bit and that's when he caught me over the top. So the dude was smart, you know, and I had to figure out that puzzle piece during the fight where you see me start putting more pressure on him. I started catching him a little right hands digging to the body, digging to the body. Then I caught him on. Then he finally made a mistake because he was getting tired. He threw a jab and reached and then I caught him.

caught him over the top, that's when you've seen him kind of wobble, his back turned against the ropes. And then I broke him down, and I caught him with that body shot because he was worried about that shot up there, which I would be worried, too, that shit hurts. But I hit him with that great liver shot, you know, but that is tough because that's a real fight. We're all, we're thinking everything, like, it's all strategic. Like, all these other fights I've had, I didn't, I wasn't even really thinking.

I just knew I was way better than them. Like, I was, it was like, talent-wise, I was. was too much and I work hard so too much talent and I work hard and then a guy that's not really like that it's not going to be able to beat me you're not going to be able to beat me unless you're no you're not going to be able to present a challenge unless you're a great fighter that's just bottom line so when did you so this is like this is you're at that level now yeah like it wasn't always like that right no no I just started getting to this level so you think every every fight you've ever had though you learn a little bit 100% you get better every fight

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I'm so curious. That's a good one. As a boxer. That's a good one, man. That's a good one. This is like super political question, huh? Nah, it's not even political. It's just like.

It's just hard to pick. It's so hard. From your perspective. Maybe based on more than just boxing what you like and style i mean gotta be you gotta have floyd up there's not not jake paul i love jake man yeah maybe one day no uh you can't knock that guy down he's fucking he's he wants to win too i mean he's trying to figure it out but he's gonna take him time to get good to the point where i would say that he's a top level fighter would you ever fight him

i wouldn't say no yeah i would say i wouldn't say i wouldn't ever but i wouldn't want to because i know him and it's like i don't know i don't know like it's just weird like if the only i would only do it for if the money was great the money would have to be insane and it would have to make sense like why would i want to fight my friend jake right now yeah you know he's also a lot heavier yeah he's like 180 pounds yeah like maybe when i get the 160 yeah you think you could beat him right now i would say i can i mean i love i don't i want Like, I'm just going to tell my truth. No, I get you.

You know, he's my guy. I would say I would be able to beat him. Yeah. You know, but I'm happy he's doing what he's doing. I'm very proud of him. I think for him to be on stage in front of all those people, never box really a day in his life other than now. To me, that's, that's admirable. Good shit.

Yeah. I'm a fan of that. Yeah, I can't lie. For you to be able to do that, I'm a fan of that. Yeah. You know, and I'm never, I would, why would, like, people talk shit about it. like shut up man you do that shit you go fight tyron willie yeah i mean you tell me if you can fight in front of 10,000 people or how much are he has like shut up they're all trying to

knit but people try to nitpick oh he's picking these opponents yeah that's what i was going to say i'm kind of one of those people though i love it i get your argument because it's like because is he not picking smaller people than him every time look it look it yes yes he is rude look facts if you want to look at facts yes they're out of their long pass their career and they don't have the explosion they used to have right he's picking the right fights he's trying to fight this be now yeah he's like i said he's trying to pick the right fights and he is but think about it all boxers starting up do the same thing that's what i was talking about earlier yeah so you can't knock them but the reason why i give him so much credit is because these guys should have enough

experience to be able to beat him for sure so he has something there and that's not that you can't deny that yeah he has a natural ability of boxing but if he were to fight a guy obviously his size his experience level that that's that's that would be tougher than fighting a tyrone woodley yeah same same three years whatever long he's been fighting but a pro with five fights yeah that's tough yeah because now it's like okay We're going to see really where he's at. Right. But I think it's perfect for him.

He's building his career. He's making a ton of money. Fuck. Like, do your shit. Yeah. Out! Yeah, no, he's gone crazy. I mean, like, I mean, there's no denying that.

Yeah. There's no denying. And also, I think the popularity that he's brought to boxing. Yeah. You don't think so? No. I wouldn't say he's brought any popularity. Really?

No. If anything, boxing's bringing popularity to him. Oh, I see what you're just saying. Yeah. That's what I was saying. Maybe to, maybe to like, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. He was losing the steam a little bit.

But boxing brought him really that health. It's just a healthy thing because people respect it. Nobody respect him at all. They still kind of don't. But boxing really gives you that credibility. Like, damn, you really go in there and fight it. Because at some point it's undeniable. Like, it just, he is actually in their boxing.

Yeah, you could, you could deny it all you want. He's fighting. Yeah. And he got punch in the face. He got cut. It's bleeding. Yeah. He's actually bleeding.

So what do you think his, What do you think his best fight would be? His best fight? Because, like, I think he wants, like, I mean, my opinion, when I look at it. Tommy Fury. Like, that would be his hardest fight. That would be the best fight, more competitive, take him to the next step. People will give him credit.

Yeah, Tommy Fear is that guy. Not that guy, but the guy for him. Yeah. Tommy Fear is not much of a boxer himself, but they're kind of the same. Kind of, like, have like a kind of celebrity type of thing outside and, like, They're boxing now. He has a little bit of experience. I think Jake has the more power.

Tyson, I mean, Tyson, Tommy has the access to real boxing knowledge. But so does Jake. But, like, I don't know. He looks a little bit more of a challenge for Jake than, say, bisping or anybody. And it's perfect. He's a real fighter, you know? Yeah. I think if it looks like from the outside, it looks like he's trying to, like,

like get as many of these like not easy fights but these fights that he can kind of like finagle that people be like oh it's a fighter but almost almost it's a fighter but almost and then fight someone that he won't even care if he loses like mcconner because the bag is so big that it's like everyone's going to be like of course he lost to connor yeah yeah i get it because if because if logan lost to floyd or if jake loses to connor or someone else in that vein you're going to be like well of course that it's never going to be like oh you're suck you lost that could be his play but i mean smart listen i'm not knocking it i just want to see him fight someone like his size that's my biggest my only thing the size i want his size size does matter like i'm not beating i'm not beating anybody at over 180 because of the size yeah like someone bigger and longer than you that's a heavier that's a fighter that's a fighter like there's no possible like there is a possible way because i probably would really look into it like i would move around the ring probably majority of the time went on points like that would be my strategy against a big guy but because that's your only play you're not going to go manhandle no you're not going to

manhandle him but yeah he should probably fight people his size that would make sense yeah so are there any are there any like um social people fights that you beat with it you look forward to like any like out like just a social media type of fight yeah is what you say man and what do you think about that whole thing in general because it's it's interesting now that you said it's somewhat gimmicky but somewhat kind of cool exciting because you kind of seem to a street fight glorified yeah because some people would say like i remember when it first started having it's fun to watch because they they don't know what they're doing and that makes it better because they're just fucking throwing unexpected unexpected you just don't know what's going to happen and then it's funny because these

guys like some of them like they just take it is so serious i like how viny hacker played it though he's awesome he was like y'all he's just straight up yeah making a lot of money whatever and then he went in and did his shit but like because some of these fighters they just they swear like they know what they're doing like just be honest i'm fucking making a ton of money shut up like i'm going there and do whatever the fuck i want like just play it how it is it's funny yeah i think it's cool but just not too much of it like there's a balance yeah definitely a balance i don't want to see so do you do you have fun as much fun as you did in the beginning on social media as you do now or is it different way different because now I'm like a real business where like I have real endorsements yeah

that are watching me so it's like way different now is it more is it more pressure it's pressure but it's but it's good like I like you I like where I'm at now I don't have to post that much I don't have to do all that yeah I just have to set up my fights just know what it would be a good fight post when I want to post you know I know it we'll blow up like I know my guarantees Like, you know, if I post this type of video, it's guaranteed to do well, like, I'm at a very good place. Like, I'm chilling. I'm chilling, you know, I'm chilling.

I'm chilling. What do you, so what do you, what do you think your professional career is going to end up at wise? Like, what and what? Something to know, obviously. I think, how many fights do you have? I think at the end, I'm probably going to be considered one of the greatest fighters in the last decade.

How many fights you? And a billionaire. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Billionaire plus one of the greatest fighters of world plus just that handsome motherfucker. Yeah. So,

you're fucking stupid. I love that. I love that. Bro, that was so funny. I love it. So, okay.

What do you think your record's going to be? Like, are you talking like Mayweather type shit? 50? No, this day and age, they don't get to like, oh,

we get to 50, you know, right? But like back in the day, they used to get to like 125, 175. I don't think I'm gonna get there I think tops in the 40 to 50 range 55 range

hopefully I could be made with his record that would be all if I'd be the craziest shit ever if I do that that just gave me another one I mean I kind of motivated to do that now that would be insane if I could get 55 and oh and I just rub it in May with the face every time I see him not in a mean way but in a way like oh yeah you should but he does it he rubs it in everyone's yeah so maybe

maybe I'll do it just to do that to him yeah because there's no one else in the world who can do that too no no actually nobody he can so if I could beat a lot of champions go 55 and oh it's not gonna be easy it's never easy but if I do things right I probably could do it that would be the coolest shit and I will really rub it in his face probably every chance I get I mean why would I would I even just wear a shirt that just always imprinted 55 and oh yeah get a tattoo right here yeah oh face tap no no don't to fuck the face up nah no got to

protect the face put it somewhere here maybe yeah maybe somewhere just like a little 55 and oh maybe on my fist just to show me yeah every time i just do this then you know what time it is oh you don't have that on your clock yeah that makes it so do you because like you like you said it's not easy boxing is not easy fighting is not easy yeah what i'm saying is not going to be easy do you ever stress about um the damage like the physical damage oh sometimes sometimes because i think to myself like damn i want to have my wits later on like i want to enjoy this that's why i'm enjoying everything now I'm having a great time.

Yeah. Because you never know. Maybe I could, there's a possibility I could end up a little bit of brain damage or I'm just not there. But that's fine because I'm doing what I love and I'm enjoying my family now and I'm living life now. So right now I have my wits. I love it. Later on I might not. But guess what?

I'm still going to heaven. I love it. And I'm going to have my wits then. So it's fine. I love that, I love that mentality about you, though, man. Like, you just seem to have that, like, you just, no matter what feel. You know, like, I'm going to do this no matter what. Don't trust your feelings, trust the truth, you know?

That's what I always tell people, like, yeah, I'm just going to play my hand. Like I said, if I lose my wits, what am I supposed to do? Like, I'm just going to have to accept that I can't speak that well. Yeah. I already can't speak, though. No, you're good. No, I'm good. Have you ever had any moments, like, where you felt like you were uncertain about

where you were going that time I was going through that that mental health issue last year I didn't know where I was going and I was confused because usually I do but I couldn't get out of this maze that was created a maze it felt like I was in a maze

What was it though? Was it the thought of like not being good enough Like what was the thing that was It was the thought of I got I self-sabotaged my own head overthinking every single thing where if I forgot something

I automatically assumed that I had some type of dementia right or if i if i wasn't on point about something i was so down on myself or it was just so much like just so much torture i really felt like i was one spiritually tortured but also mentally just i was like what the fuck like physically and spiritually and everything i felt tortured like every time i try to work out i extremely got sore and i was like mother but it was all in my head it was it was just like i wasn't looking at the truth it was all feeling based it was so weird i couldn't couldn't get out of that for a long time and i was like fuck this so what got

you out of it because i i i could understand this what got you out of this like what got you to get past the mental honestly i don't have a direct answer for that i just know i took steps right i took the right steps or the perceived right steps i went to go therapy i went to a professional therapist right and i talked to her about this i was like yeah i think i have dementia like Like if any question I thought I had, right, or any fear, I would say, I would try to come at it. Like, I think I have this. She's like, no, you're perfectly fine. Yeah.

She's like, no. And then she would remind me. And then, but then I would do something. And I would, again, go into this loop. It was like, I kept on being in loops that I couldn't get out of it. It was like running circles in my own mind. And I was fucking tortured. And I was like, no medicine without me.

If I took Xanax, which they prescribed me, didn't work at all. And I was even in the even when you took it didn't work at all I was still fucking that's why I feel like it was spiritual too because no medicine was working with your mental health like was it like anxiety was it depression like was it a combination of things or like abusive habits or anything like that like what do you think it like was primarily was just your anxiety of it yeah it was uh it was anxiety and depression are like best friends they come together and once the anxiety levels couldn't be. controlled i got depressed i couldn't control it so i couldn't do what i love because the anxiety is the the bouncing of those things you're like i can't control this the fear is or is taking over you and the repeat and the repeat because it knows it can fuck with you right it has a grip on you like every time it mentions this thought it knows it invokes i'm not saying it but right anxiety and like it just it just it keeps attacking you until you fucking face it yeah it's like i know i know i could get you here. Ha! It's fucking scaring

you. Ha! And then it's like, you're getting depressed because you can't get out of it. Like, I look to the left, I can't get out of it. I look to the right, it can't get of it. I go anywhere. I can't get out of it. So that right there had such a strong hold on me. I got super depressed and I really, at a point, I was in my car and I was like, I wrote, I don't know how many notes I wrote, but I wrote so many notes claiming to my mom. Like, I'm my dad. I'm like, I don't want to, I'm dead. Like, I'm going to die. Like, I'm just going to I don't see no hope. I can't do what I love.

I'm sorry, but I don't know if I don't know if I want to live. You know, that's like, it's kind of emotional, but that was a bad part. And it's sad because I'm one of the strongest people. That's why, like, I preach so much about just fucking driving forward. And it's like at that point, I was just so weak. But it's fine. I've been there. I found a way.

Like, I found a way I'm good now. I'm great. Life is so good. But I had, and then the hardest part, I think. is like people just didn't believe me like they didn't think that it was like real I think because people expect

Because I tried my best to be the person I usually am like I would watch fights and I would like Yeah I would talk shit because like Like I missed it and I miss being in the loop But I couldn't still get myself together So it was so hard for me sit back And watch everything past five

Because I'm fucking hungry for this shit And it was so it felt like it was like It wasn't my fault You know and I just felt so judged and like usually people get so much support when they come out like that but i get it i think it's because you're a fighter the perception that you should be tough and strong and maybe maybe but hey i found a way i'm here now you know that's all that matters i'm here now i just want to know what was the switch like what got you back obviously you took the steps you went to therapy you did the things

that you it's funny i don't want to give credit to poker but poker oh fuck yo that's hilarious like i don't want to fuck i don't want to give credit to poker But like, fuck, man. I was in Vegas fucking playing poker. And I was, it really just got my mind just out of thinking what I was thinking of. Like, I was just, like, enjoying sitting down and figuring the handout and getting better. And it was just that little, that little thing. You know what it sounded like?

You just needed something outside of what you did. Right. Because guarantee the rest of your life prior to this, everything that probably made you and brought you happiness was boxing. And then, like, now you added social media. it was relationship to it because I can relate directly to this like lifting my entire life and then it became my business and then it was but it was still the thing that kept me happy and I actually had a really crazy like negative point in my life right when I opened my gym in relationship to everything relationship to social media to working out to everything I was just

I felt like I was just getting by and I genuinely the same thought where you're like you know am I going to be alive am I okay like I kept repeating these like moments and it's so crazy and I it obviously completely different industries you and I but I think it does come down to the fact that you saying poker being that thing was just completely separate of kind of what pushed you along your whole life and you just had something to kind of like take your mind off of this yeah because your whole life I mean even from the moment that I that I met you it was just every time it's like boxing boxing yeah social media boxing career boxing everything 100% so I think doing something outside of it just separating yourself and allowing you to like something outside of it just separating yourself and allowing you to like something else side of it that I enjoy because a lot of people they're like oh yeah try something outside about like they're like try this this is going to work like what no that works for you um it would be like uh maybe try to fucking i don't know ride jet skis i'm not saying swim or something yeah swim or you know but it wasn't i wonder what about poker did you it's fun i don't know what it is it's just chess to me it's chess like i i love i love playing tournaments i don't like playing cash game

because I can't play with people that don't know how to play because it's like you can't gauge what they're doing but tournament I like it because it's like strategy it's fun but then there's also the luck factor so you got to get over it but to me I just love the game like I love the game I love being around

the boys laughing it off you know talking like you have so much great conversations at the poker table and the people are just so either there's so many you meet so many different type of personalities on the poker table too And it's crazy

It's just I love I love it And it's just like a man's man's game You're playing poker Like that's sick No girls are good at poker too Don't get me wrong You know I've just played some players

I was like oh shit But it's like it's that vibe that you needed It's the vibe It's this what it is It's the vibe It's just I don't know At that time it just So poker was your switch

Pretty much And you're like wait a minute But no but it was crazy Because through that right That's where I felt God came in and showed me what my purpose was because there would be moments right when I'm playing that people would come up to me like oh I got to talk to you like to around I'll be in commerce casino I remember this still I was in commerce casino playing poker and his dude comes up

to me he's like do you know who you are I'm like what yes I am yes he's like no do you know what God bless you with and I was like yes and then he goes what are you doing and I was like uh just playing poker and then he was like no I'm telling you seriously like and then he was breaking it down to me and like showing me what I'm so blessed with in that that I have so much opportunity I was like yeah you're right like the hell am I doing and then like little things like that like little moment but like it touched me it's different like it's different when you're there like it's just a you feel the moment and through that God just came and like really told me not told me but like it just came to a realization that like this is meant like this is a mature

I'm this is all part of the process of growing my character like I had to go through it you know I had to see things how they had to be seen and now I'm so much stronger and like it's amazing yeah it's amazing I mean bro since I've last seen you seem like you've mentally matured so much 100% do you do you read books like you what do you do to like try to stay sharp outside of the ring poker oh my god I love it poker okay how much money have you won playing poker how much money have you lost playing poker I've lost way more than I've ever one and I'm never going to get it back. It's gone. Yeah, like

dude, I don't know. It's probably even doubt. What's the most you've lost in one game? Are you talking like poker, not as much as I have just gambling. Like Baccarod and all that. Oh yeah, yeah. Like, oh, I don't even want to say the number. It's not that bad.

I lost 20K once and it was terrible. I did it for a video and I regret it. Yeah, I wish I only lost yeah. I wish I only lost 20K. I'm not going to give the number out. But if you see my wins too it's not it's not even obviously the loss is a little bit more but that's just probably that's just what it's good you just like the game I just like the game yeah but I am trying to get good like don't get me wrong like if you get me on the poker table you don't have a scrub here you know I want these guys who you know respect my game has has poker taught you anything like

about boxing or about life I see how you know yes it's taught me to not trust your feelings and trust the truth that's what I mean because you go oh my gosh I have a good feeling about this hand yeah I'm gonna win and you fucking don't win Then you get fucking smoke Yeah And then you say I have a bad feeling about this hand

But you play it right And then you win with it You're like Eh So It's taught me Don't trust your feelings Trust the truth

Look at the situation Don't look at the fucking All that shit Feelings just lead to answers That's all it is I have a good feeling Well where is it going What's the truth

Yeah It's just leading you to the truth Bad for Why don't have a bad feeling Don't judge a person Because you have a bad feeling about them See how they are Figure it out

Boom maybe that feeling was telling the truth but you don't know that yet you know you can't just trust it completely yeah you have to wait and then see some true fucking insight i love that philosophy 101 yeah you crush that that's incredible come on now okay so all right guys quick interruption this podcast is sponsored by better help it's a mobile therapy platform where you don't have to go and like talk to someone in person um i've been to therapy tons of times it's like fucking changed my life drastically. It always helps to have someone to talk to that is like unbiased of your actual like situation that's going on. And now this is a simple way for you to to get engaged with

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he's one of the greatest public figures for a boxer ever and he's just great where's his people some dudes annoying the shit out of you like somebody could tell him to chill relax like Mike shouldn't have punched them

fuck but some people do deserve that but like when you're Mike Tyson just don't punch nobody they're coming for the check for sure so I think it could have been controlled better by everybody But somebody in his team should have checked that guy. Because I know my guy, James, somebody's annoying the shit out of me. And I'm very nice.

But you start annoying me to that point. Some of my people are going to be like, yo. What the fuck are you doing? And you fucking go somewhere? Like, that's what I thought should have happened. But it is still crazy. People just, they, I don't know, they get so maybe they feel entitled to a person or like they have some sort of perspective that they can just do it the fuck they want.

They lose the sense of reality. it's like no the reality is Mike Tyson is a regular person sitting in his seat yeah and you're counting like I can't go up to a random person like hey hey hey how you do hey hey there's just no way I'm doing it's just weird how I don't I don't get it like I I understand it it must come with the like admiration or the celebrity in it uh yeah the admiration of someone that you know or you've seen or you've heard yeah but it's like it's still just a fucking human like you were saying earlier like the expectations of you being a certain way for everyone is like you know at the end of the day you're so human you still eat you

shit you piss this is all the same shit yeah i see the i mean i've seen people admire me crazy like they go they freak out right girl man but i've never had somebody heckled me that way that they that guy did a mic that would annoy me yeah i i think i would have swung on him too i might have yeah i swear i might have like what do you think about the will smith thing oh man i know it's old and news like i don't want to bring it up no no it's fine it's fine it's fine it's fine I'm halle curious. A part of a part of me was like, I'll tell you my thing, but go, a part of me when I saw the Will Smith thing, like, my initial reaction was like, that's fake.

Because like, because the whole thing was, you know, was the Oscars. Yeah. It's like born. No one of the fuck about it. So maybe they're like trying to think of a way to spice it up. And like, and I look like Will Smith is like the most popular person like on social media from that industry. So I'm like, maybe they're just trying to like.

It's just. Do you still think it's fake though? I don't. No, now I know it's not fake because I ask some people who are like in the situation a little bit deeper. And I know it's not fake. And I actually know that it had been something that had been kind of festering for some time between those two specifically. So I know it's not fake. Now, knowing that it's not fake.

Yeah. Now what do you think? Fuck. It's interesting because this is a challenging thing to think about. The reason why I like it is because brings light. Yeah. Maybe it makes people realize, oh, wait. Maybe you just can't say whatever the fuck you want at any point

Because that's the thing with the internet Like people got to this point where like People feel entitled to just what say whatever the fuck they want about Yeah Because you're behind the screen Here's the thing Now I thought the sack same way And I even wrote it on my Twitter

But I ended up deleting it I said something similar to that But then I thought to myself But that does not give you the right to stop the shit No But what I'm saying is this Like Will Smith

right he obviously man he probably hears a lot of shit his whole life like oh like just just little shit and obviously he's been through a lot of things with yeah well there's a lot of shit there that's why it's such a complicated thing well that's why i got to that point that's why i got to that point but you know what i'm talking about yeah yeah um but i really admire chris rock for the way animals like to the way i mean that would take every ounce in my body not to come back and I don't care if I will get my ass beat you slap me in my face yeah whether I'm at the Oscars or right here right now yeah I'm gonna look at you I'm like you're gonna get fucked up right now yeah I don't care why what you know and his if you really break it

down his joke wasn't that bad I'm I bet it is I'm feeling for her like I'm sorry are you going through right nobody knew I had no clue and he said he didn't have a clue yeah but I really think Will Smith was still in that protective role of King Richard I know if you've seen King Richard you know what I'm talking about King Richard came from the movie It was a fierce protector of his fan He even mentions it in the after the Yeah

In his winning speech with they allowed habit which was crazy So you he slaps Chris Rock Then they allow him to get the reward And then gives the most dramatic speech ever It says at your highest point That's when the devil go against it Like it was just crazy But all that is kind of not true

Like, you can't say the devil's going to get you only at your high points. He's going to try to get you at your low points. At all points. Yeah, at all points. Any right situation to try to get you, that's pretty much the devil attacks. But anyways, forget that. What I'm saying is, I think he was still in that King Richard, bro. I swear, bro.

Bro was crying and was like, I'm a fierce protector of my family. Like, bro. I just don't get why later on, like, they go. They banning from the Oscars, but they let him do all that stuff. That's what was weird to. It's like, why later on? Because they were like, they probably didn't want to, they didn't know how to Handa, they're like, Will Smith is such a big actor, like, this is just a weird situation.

Like, maybe they just couldn't make a good decision at that time. Yeah. That's all I could think of. Yeah. But, man, that was, that was crazy, man. You know, I knew it was big because the next day, Starbucks, that's all everybody talk about. Well, random strangers came up to me and asked me, what did you think about? Bro, what do you think of Will Smith slapping?

It was also just like, how are you doing? Good morning. It was also like everything. for the next like three days was literally that it was crazy that's how you know it had a big effect on everyone and opinions are still being talked about obviously but it's like but it's also too like people are in love with violence oh they're that's why boxing right they just love violence it's that's what it is i mean it's like we're glad it we're blood driven it's weird you never it's like that's it should never happen at that event but it did and it's violence and everyone

it's like you can't stop talking about i can't stop thinking about it no no as human Humans, we know not to do it, but we also have that instinct of fight. Yeah. Fight or flight. Either going to run away, you're going to fight. And then people like to see that in front of them. They like to see if it's, they could be mastered, that instinct of, you know what I mean? People like that.

They're bloodthirsty. You mean, it goes back to the gladiator days. Of course. People watch, people kill people. You obviously can't do that now. Like to death. But we're doing everything pretty much there. We squeezed every ounce of, like to that.

We can't kill each other, but you illegally could kill somebody in the ring, but you're not going to have a sword this time. You're just going to have gloves. Right. So I have a question on that vein. Like when it comes to the fighter flight response and like the natural human like reaction to that, you being a fighter, you have to, like, you have to train yourself to not have those like reactions like so that you can be calm in a ring. Because a normal human, they're going to get in a fight and have like 30 seconds of some explosive strength. and probably get either win or lose. But a boxing match is fucking rounds and rounds and time.

So what are you doing to like not have that? Like what are you doing to maintain calmness, I guess in a sense? That's something within you. You know, you got to figure that out for yourself. Like I know how to be calm in the ring. And yeah, you could try to practice it. But it's really experience, fighting constantly. You know, it starts when you're young, you know.

I never really, here's the thing, though. I never had, like, I was never an emotional fighter. I'm never emotional when it comes to fighting. I'm just fighting and, you know, people always would get mad and I'm just fighting still. Like, even as a kid, like, I never got mad easily. So for me, it's very easy for this control that. The only thing I have to control is when I hurt somebody, because then that's when I get like, I get thirsty. I get bloodthirsty big time.

Like, even it's sparring. So that's what I got. have to control that so you don't go too hard and then if you could fuck up right you could possibly fuck up but i have also a good like if i know the guy's going to throw a punch like i have a good reaction so i don't i don't i just know that it's smarter the smarter choice is for me to relax when i not hurt somebody but my see my thing is destroy like i want to destroy the guy right away like that's your perfect opportunity he's hurt this is the time to really kill kill him yeah sorry not kill but knock him out of course

course exactly and that that's where that but that's the thing though if you misread it like you get caught yeah you can run into some shit like anthony joshua he hurt annie ruiz he didn't he thought he was actually hurt but he's not yep and then gets caught with a hook and there it goes there's history yeah so you you got to be calm you got to be calm calm in the chaos how do you train that Like, once you start, you have to be aware first, then start making your adjustments. And maybe it's a breathing technique. Maybe it's just reminding yourself that, you know, this is a long fight. I don't know.

However you want to find peace within yourself, that's how you do it. There's no blueprint. It's like calming the chaos, you know, just see it how it is. And he's hurt right now. Okay. Like I'm always sometimes I talk to myself in the ring sometimes and I'm fighting Like obviously you can't think too much right but sometimes I'll say okay his hands dropping here You know I'll have like little thoughts like that yeah okay okay okay all right I start putting the pressure

right now you know I'll do that when I'm fighting but nothing so crazy nothing more than that And that keeps me calm because I feel like I feel like I have a friend Yeah it's weird like it's me but who's really that guy taught yeah Dude, that's so crazy, man. I'm so excited to see where your, where your, like, career takes you, like, in the future. Me too. Because, like, when I first met you, like, girl, you're going to. That's all I think.

I believe in you. I really do believe that's going to happen. And when I met you in 18, same thing, man. Like, you're, you just, you have that, like, that this is what I'm going to do mentality. Yeah. And you don't really wander from that. Even though, obviously, you have experienced, like, that stray. Yeah, it's not going to be easy.

Like, yeah, it's never easy. But, yeah, everybody, when you're trying to. to do something great it's gonna be some shit man yeah this be some shit you gotta go through it's just what it is somebody got to do it yeah i'm gonna go do it i love it man i love it well i appreciate your time we're gonna we gotta answer some uh questions okay so at the end of every episode um you guys can basically if you guys want your question to answer by me and the guest you go to ask raw talk at gmail dot com and then she should have a few questions ready cued up and then we'll just answer them whatever however you see fit awesome do you have any there yes they do

though so it says hey bradley and guest i lost my best friend to suicide a few years back and the only way i could cope with it is drugs i was just wondering what are some ways to cope with it better instead of doing drugs people say time heals but that's just not the case and then that's what they want advice for okay so i'm going to start off by saying time is the heel i know you're not feeling that right now because it might be too close to the to like your actual time and you're trying to heal it feels like you can't my best advice outside of this is occupy your mind as much as possible with things that you actually do really enjoy because you're not going to change your circumstance like you can't bring someone back to life

like I know this directly I've dealt with this my whole life but the thing you do have control over and the thing you do have power in is the choices that you make and the actions that you do moving forward that can lead you to a brighter place right instead of you being like fuck this happened to me fuck this happened to my friend fuck this is my life this is what's going on this is where i'm at because you can get caught up in those thoughts like you were even talking earlier about like in that anxiety and that that bouncing back and forth of these ideas or these these emotions that kind of like tear you the fuck down that's so normal and it's okay to have that but the minute you can go like what he even talked about right even talked about finding poker outside and like doing this

and like it sounds like a crazy thing but i'm saying just find something outside of like that constant monologue, inner monologue within yourself of the fear or the sadness, the emotion, the trauma, and just change your circumstances. That's all you can do and constantly try, because it's going to pull you back and then try to go, okay, let me try and get back here again. And however long you could do it, do it. And then it's going to pull you back and you just keep trying to reset yourself. I also got something to say, like, when you're doing drugs, it doesn't let you feel.

feel the necessary things you have to feel. Hurting is part of the process. It's part of, it's sad, it's hard, but that's the only way you're going to heal. You're just numbing the pain. And I'm so sorry for your loss. But in order to cope with it better, you're going to have to try to lay off the drugs.

And you need to feel it. You need to feel it. And it hurt is part of the process of healing. And it's just something you need to feel. And I'm sorry for your loss for your friends. Yeah. It's sad. No, that's great advice. I'm going to reiterate the same thing. You have to go through it. You have to feel it. Yeah, it's good. It's a good deal in the right spot. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it means. Yeah, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be right now. Hell yeah. It's like I like I've already been here. Like I already, you already said that before. That's so weird. Fucking dope. So strange. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So here's another one. It says how do you deal with patients like where you want to go and the places you want to be in life? How do you deal with it? Because it's definitely a journey, move. actions change daily big change on the daily so how do you stay focused I think I didn't get that question so I think what the person is trying to say is like how do you stay focused on like

your goal even though like you're dealing with this or dealing with that I think yeah oh I answer that yeah go for it the way I stay focused is looking at my routine and knowing what what things that my priorities of what I have to do and then the outside things can't waver that so I make sure I prioritize what I have to do and no matter what is happening outside you know I remove you know yes you have your feelings involved and people you know and it gets complicated like that's hard by life is just hard but if you really want to be focused on something you got to know that you're gonna there's just challenges all over the place but that just comes with the territory you're after something so make sure you get

that thing done and then if you have time to handle those little nuances i don't even have that's right word but nuances or challenges then you yeah you deal with that but make sure it's prioritized that this is what you want to do then you it's not going to be easy just prioritize it and then deal with that stuff later that's what i would say yeah yeah yeah so i'll add on to that um i think i think the thing it's really important also what's ryan to in in relationship to what ryan is saying is that you need to be able to like draw a real purpose to the thing that you're saying okay this is the thing that I love and this is the thing that I want to do and if you could draw like the true purpose which is why we talked earlier about you so much success that you've had in your life is like because you felt this purpose of being one of the greatest right and you're so driven to that but so every time you start to falter and wander away from that you're able to pull yourself back in me like I want to be the best and that's your purpose in this sense right so person listening you have to figure out the purpose of the thing that you're trying to accomplish beyond just trying to accomplish like if you're like i want to make a bunch of money

like why do you want to make money and i'm not saying that's not a good goal i'm just saying define why having that money or having that thing or whatever it is why that means something to you he's so sure about that right so once you don't be so much money driven be purpose driven be god driven whatever driven but like don't let that be your main right sense of like yeah it's important But trust me, I'm trying to get the money, too. Of course. But like... Yeah, we're all trying to make the bag.

But it all got to make sense. You can't just say like, yo, I want to make a million dollars. I'm going to find out. I'm going to go do salad drugs, but you know what I mean? It has to be part of your purpose. Like you were saying, I like that. You know, it has to be a part of it. So if you figure that out, then it's much easier to pull yourself back on track

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i can say i'm inspired right by people but obviously like who i want to be i don't want to be and what was the first part so the first part was like when was the last time you guys tried something new and who was someone you often compared yourself. Okay. Something new. First time, last time I tried something new. Like, it's so hard for me to do this because I just do the same shit. Like I train. I like, I eat good. I like, like, like, you like where are you? I love it. I love it. Okay, but like, what is a habit that you guys develop new, which I think you guys could both relate to? Okay. What is a new habit you guys developed to change the cycle that you guys have? Okay.

You guys kind of touched on it, but like more. Okay. So something that I, I've gotten better at. It just overall in general in my life, but I've been working on this for some time is meditating. Like straight up just sitting with my thoughts, no matter what they are, no matter how they come and just letting them come and letting them go and being calm with it.

If they come, let them come. If they go, let it go. There it is. That's it. I like that. So that's something that I learned. That's something that I got better at. It's something that I practice.

Now, as far as comparing myself, nothing. You ever got into it? I just try. I like, I shot a, I'm shooting a Snapchat series called The Fight Inside, and I tried everything. Like, I went to, I did it with a bunch of people. I don't know if they brought that to you.

Maybe. I don't remember, but I had to try meditating, sound baths. I mean, I'm sure. Yeah. I was underwater for like three minutes straight. Like, wait. Wait, you held your breath for three minutes? Just wait until it comes out.

It's pretty crazy. It's actually really impressive. No. Yeah. No, there's no way. They taught me how to do it. Okay. There's this like Navy type of stuff.

Okay. But yeah, I haven't gotten into meditating. But the question was something new. Something obviously poker. Yeah. But it's like not so much new, but it was really a habit. It turned into a habit, which just really got my mind out of just, it's kind of like meditating, right? Yeah.

You get away from everything. It's just the game. Yeah. And it just really helped me clear my mind on a lot of things. And, yeah, like it taught me that lesson, like we were talking about. So that's something I kind of... Do you compare yourself to anyone? Oh, that was the other part, yeah.

Do I compare myself to anyone? I see a lot of perils to people. Yeah. Like, I find inspiration in Christianado Ronaldo. Yeah. I find a lot of inspiration to Muhammad Ali because of the people, how he's standing for the people. I see a lot of myself with Manny Packel, the speed, the power. Yeah.

Legends. You know? God damn. Kobe Bryant mentality-wise. That's how I think a lot when I'm working. I'm always looking for the edge. I'm like obsessed about it. Like I do things because I know people aren't doing it.

Like I know they ain't going to do this. So this is why I'm going to do it. You know? Yeah. I just have that competitive mind. Like I want to destroy you in every way possible. When it's competition. Yeah.

So that's why I relate to all those people. But I wouldn't say I can like I want to be that person. Right, right. I take a lot of their good attributes and I say, man, I want to add that to myself. because that's very good inspirational wise very inspirational yeah makes sense you got any other ones i mean there was one they added where it says what's your stance on the existence of aliens and what's a common conspiracy that you could think oh yeah yeah aliens be legit uh they're real i just want to say this shit they gotta be real they have to be real i have my own thing like

there's no way like the universe is this big i don't know how i don't know how to word it Yeah. And I don't know why I'm worried about wording it, but whoever's watching, I'm just kidding. Well, you can say whatever. No, okay, I'm going to say whatever. Like, I see it more, look, yeah, obviously, I'm a Christian. Like, that's who I, that's what I am. Like, that's who I stand on. And I read the Bible a lot. And to me, it's just, it's just an illusion. To me, it's like, it feels like they're almost, it's almost a demonic illusion. Aliens. Yeah. Really? I'm going to call it how I think it is. It's a demon. Of course, they want you to believe in aliens and other things that are not really factual. You know, maybe it's just whispers and things just to make you distracted with the bigger picture in things. You know, I try to look, all right, let's look at the truth.

There ain't no been an alien friend of me, and there really hasn't ever been an actual proof. What is it really trying to, what are they trying to, what picture are they painting? But you don't think that regardless of religion, aliens could still exist. And even in relationship to it. I mean, it could be like just. If we're looking at it like, you know, in a scientific way, there's millions of galaxies in the world. That's what I'm talking about.

Millions of planets and millions of things. It's like infinite almost. Yeah, it's infinite. So would be. There's no way we're the only thing. That's all I'm saying. I just feel like there's no way, dude. Is it the drug?

I'm not saying I know exactly what it is. But we can't say, we can't say 100% that there is anything. What if there's just another Earth? of people of humans like us. But that's what I mean. So that's so that, that, that are going through the exact same thing. So that's what we're talking about. That's aliens?

But that's what an alien is. So are you talking about the, the, the gray-headed guy? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just talking about the walnut eyes. Aliens I'm talking about just something else. Okay. It doesn't have to be. It can be a whole not a set of humans.

That's it. A species that we don't know. That's it. Like, I mean, it could be humans somewhere else. That's to me that's not aliens then, though. Okay, well, that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying something that's not on earth, that is life somewhere else. It's a possibility, yes. Yeah, it has to be.

Big possibility. Big chance. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying they're like fucking little green creatures. Unless I see fucking Paul, the alien, you know what that movie? If I see that motherfucker in front of me, then I'd be like, yeah, there's a alien. Oh, my God. There's definitely fucking alien.

Is there any conspiracy theories that you guys follow? Because that was the second part of that question. Ooh, conspiracy theories? I don't follow any more. I don't really try to. too because it's just all like I don't know distraction just a distraction it's just all the thing I don't know what do you think I mean there there's also there's very there's a lot of conspiracies with everything and I don't it's just no yeah

yeah no no government shit no because I really dive in like I go I go in I try to look at everything so no I know yeah yeah let's skip skip we're gonna stop it there I'm gonna sound like a crazy guy skip yeah that's it that's it subscribe to the fucking channel drop a like drop a comment if you enjoyed it if you're on if you didn't know if you're on YouTube you can go to iTunes you could add it plus a little button add a review on iTunes maybe on Spotify soon I love you guys I'm out of here thank you for coming man always a pleasure and like bro you are you are fucking you're destined man you're gonna do it and you're already doing amazing things I love

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