RAWTALK - Sam Hyde Loses It...

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

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Couldn't have better news than to hear that. Well, we're rolling? Yeah. You're excited? I'm excited. Yeah, this is crazy. You got viral clips and shit. I want a viral clip.

Yeah. I feel like you have viral. You have tons of viral clips. I got viral. Yeah. We do viral sometimes. Sometimes we keep it low-key, though. We don't want to.

I don't, you know what, in all seriousness, I don't want to. I don't want to go so viral that I have to start worrying worrying about why you know. Oh no. No. There's no way

the first fucking bad guys. Oh my God. Bad guys coming after you. We don't go that far. We're not talking about that. There's no way you're three minutes into the podcast.

We're not talking about that. No, no. What's this? Is this a gift? No. Oh, yeah, actually. It could be. What is it?

It's, um, we got done. Hill Blue. We got Capri. David, get over you. Get inside there. What are these cigarettes? Yeah.

Oh, you smoke cigarettes? I don't inhale to my lungs. I will tell the youngsters out there not to inhale to your lungs, but, you know, whatever, it's your business. You do what you got to do. These are European, huh? These are, I think Dunhill's European. I mean, I don't fucking know.

It's a British brand. I don't know where they're made. You like cigarettes? They're probably made in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. I like good cigarettes. these are good cigarettes yeah probably yeah all right yeah get on that mic here yeah can we get Daniel mic too is that possible yeah I'll get you a mic so you came with just a bag of tricks here looks like I got a bag of well no actually it's I brought this bag over

because I need to smoke because I haven't smoked all day okay can you uh empathize with that uh I like I definitely understand nicotine yeah what is that lighter fluid you want to huff it no You huff shit? No, no. What do you be huffing, bro? I had once when I was like 15. Okay. And I did it once and I was in.

It felt terrible, man. So am I hitting a bag of Freon? No, I think it was like, it was dust off. Yeah, we'd be hitting bags. Hey, dust off, like the girl in intervention that was like, I'm walking on sunshine. Something. No, it was. Google that clip.

It was dust off. That lady was bumping that. Yeah, I did it once and then never again. It was a terrible thing. Have you ever done that? You don't might have a smart water in the shot, right? It sucks you about bad. You're just, she's down bad.

Put that, put that on that side over there. I want to try the capri. I want to see what this with the capris. You want to smoke a cigarette. I got to smoke a capri. He's smoking here. Man, come on, man. There's a real nice joint.

You want to stink it up with the cigarette? This is a nice place to smoke. Right? Come on, Sam. You got a lighter? The guy needs to smoke a cigarette about it. It evaporates right away. They don't even smell like anything.

What the hell? This guy got magic cigarettes. Yo. That's like a fairy cigarette. Yeah, take one. Take two. Yeah, bitches love that. Wait, where did you get this from?

Oh, fucking smoke shots? I don't smoke cigarettes, are these fairy cigarettes. You got a lighter, Justin? There's one up there. Oh, hell, yeah. There's one up there. Toss it.

Oh, shit. Thank you. So, how long have you? How long have you been doing YouTube for? Eight years? No, I started making... I started making videos publicly, probably around 2008. Oh, shit.

And we've had a bunch of accounts that got, like, suspended. So that might be why the, you know, the account you looked up is not that old. Yes, it's eight. But we've been around. We've been around since, like, mystery guitar man and shit like that. What was your first YouTube video?

I think I had covered my face in Vaseline, and I was talking about how I hate racism. Why do Vasily? I did a Pinkberry rap video in 2008. A pinkberry rap video? Yeah, I just remembered that. He said 2008. 2008.

It's on fire? This is on fire. That's like a little dainty smoke. I do not believe that. This is a gentleman's smoke. This is a Dunhill Blue. So why the crew? What did you bring the crew?

Yeah, I don't know. He's my coach and this is my other coach. MMA coach. MMA coach. Yeah. And this is, this, Damiel does stand up. And he's, them i'm the funny coach i probably he was a he said he wanted to see bradley martin so i promised

him that we would get him on bradley martin i just came here bradley cooper yeah Bradley cooper's not here he's not here he's my hero is he from american sniper or what well in that form yeah he did chris kyle yeah pretty bad yeah that was dope yeah that was dope so what what what uh what drives your content like what do you decide what to make because your shit looks it's like all over the place you get do you get decent audio in this podcast with that filter running yeah you don't even hear that shit you can also turn it off if you want

oh we've been running this all the time we turn that turn that filter so it's fucking with my head um yeah the em smokes better than the this calms me down yeah no I know nicotine's good nicotine is good for you nicotine is a neutropic

and it also kills nanomachines that are inside your body nicotine is good there's just other shit and cigarettes that probably aren't like I just know that uh in them vins uh all the way uh jack your blood pressure super up and like make you fucking psycho and now I don't know

make you lock up and I think there's a lot of untested science on what you guys are saying I also heard that they I think you convince me that smoking cigarettes is great for you no no I'm not saying I'm not saying cigarettes are great for you okay and also

I am I'm saying that all right if you're going to perform at a peak level any kind of smoke going to your lungs is going to damage that for science on it you look like a man that's into science.

Yes, sir. So, I'm not talking about. Nicotine, the jury isn't out. I guess this is out. The jury's out on nicotine. anecdotal evidence. No,

no, the jury. For me, my purpose, like when I put those zins, I put so many that I would be like, ah, and it really hurt my quality of life.

You shouldn't put that many. It was so hard to get off of it that it was a fucking amazing. Like I was like, God damn. I was like, ah, I was at 711 suddenly without thinking about it.

I'm here. I'm here. What the fuck? I got so angry that I quit. cold turkey but you know you can do all the nicotine I respect that the jury is out on nicotine

smoking you're 100% right any sort of like inhaling is not good for the lung like that it's not going to be good carcinogen it's not good meanwhile this guy but cool man pop away second hand smoke

isn't it crazy there was one time like you just could smoke rip cigarettes on airplanes I know and everyone had to deal with it yeah it's called civilization what happened huh we're moving away from that

what happened currently um do you know what happened no stop you can't everything you were telling me outside about your 14 this and your 88 that everything like all this i wasn't saying none of that shit you like these shapes shapes yeah you were drawing this thing outside you said look it's i'm drawing a window i drew a window yeah where i drew like this weird looking window thing and then you didn't complete it i didn't complete it a thunderbolts yeah this guy you're drawing these these you know you're making neo nazi symbols out in the in the dirt that these mexicans You know what's so funny about this?

The poor army of Mexican laborers fixing up your dope mansion. You go outside, you're drawing swastikas in the dirt. Wait, that's what you hired this guy for? No, he's making shit up. The funny thing about this is, before he comes on the pod, he goes, don't worry, I'm not going to troll you. Does this that?

Do you think I'm trolling you right now? You're trolling me, Rick? I'm trying to be silly, so your show's funny. I'm not trolling you, bro. But that never happened. What are you talking about? That never... That's a troll.

That's a definition of a troll. What are you talking about right now? You're telling a fake story. It wasn't real. Motherfucker. Jesus Christ. That didn't happen. Didn't happen.

So how did you guys meet? How did you guys meet for all? Like, where's this? Oh, man. Look, I answered an ad a long time ago when I needed the money. It was one of those ads. Yeah. But now I didn't really need the money, but I'm here.

So you want to do a podcast? You don't know who Mayhem Miller is? I've heard the name. I just, I didn't know. He was a legendary prize fighter. But now I'm a coach, mixed martial arts and the like and do commentary. So here I am. He's one of the most fun, interesting, legendary fighters ever.

He fought in pride. He's just great. He's a great fighter. Why'd you look like you didn't fight in pride? This guy is a weird way to advertise mayhem because most people know me from my MTV show, fully beat down. It was a fantastic show that introduced mixed martial arts to an entire new generation of kids. And now those kids are grown up and champions.

So I'm very proud to be a part of it. of American culture. What was your biggest fight? Well, I defeated Robbie Lawler one time in sold-out arena. That was maybe the biggest. I also defeated Tim Kennedy in Dallas to mostly sold out by a lot of comps because Mark Cuban was doing the show. Yeah.

Defeated him in Dallas, Texas. You beat Tim Kennedy? Yes. And then another time, defeated Kazushi Sakaraba, the Gracie Hunter. Oh, shit. who was never tapped out until he met mayhem. Did you actually fight and pride to, or is he just trolling? It's trolling.

You didn't fight in pride? It was just the... Had a pride contract. Yeah. You had a contract? Yes. Okay. But you didn't fight in pride.

Yeah. Like a misnomer. A lot of people get that. What happened was UFC bought pride. Yeah. And we just moved to Dream. So you found... They just got the contract.

They just got the old tape library library. But all the fighters moved. to dream. Okay. So essentially you fought in the UFC. Yeah, yeah. I fought UFC.

I fought in the big, back in the day was called a super brawl. It was a crazy like freak show fights. I fought a 400 pound man. Oh,

so you did those fights. Yeah, I fought even in the days where we could head butt, but I never did that because that technique. What about Neen when they were down? Yep.

Oh shit. Yeah. Neat guy's face. Yeah. Vicious. round kick soccer kick oh my god been on the receiving and giving end to that yeah it's a very uh well you fought a 400 pound dude i did how'd that go great i top amount of a minute 40 uh you know i thought about kickboxing with him but when i gave him a good push kick that normally would crumble

man he just walked through it so i was like ha ha ha i was like well the size is his and in the way in uh he didn't seem like you know he's wearing his clothes and whatever but in the ring like normally you stare the guy down at the beginning but I had to like move my eyes up and I was like oh wow this guy is an extra large man but I just change up the tactics okay the kick now that's not going to work uh shoot a single leg oh that didn't work uh chain wrestled to up to get to his back and oh nope he gave up the mount and then head and arm made me a lot of money kind of arm triangle they call it man man which guy was that Stavon gambling like 2006 maybe eight I don't remember it was back when uh you could do some

fights a little more uh you know out there like uh more experimental i think we're getting back to that now the culture is uh moves you think they're going to start doing those kind of fights again no way i mean i believe that it's possibility uh with the proper direction and uh curation imagine you see just like released a whole other section of u s you can't do it no they wouldn't And their establishment has to be different things. Some backyard shit. Nah, not backyard. There could be a professional.

You could split the difference. Yeah, I see. I believe it's true. But what is your podcast normally about? Didn't mean to talk all about. No, no, you're good. We just talk. We just talk shit.

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Well, Sam and then I'll argue about it later. He's kind of like, we're doing a political show series type of thing. That Sam Hyde show, I did that Dear Elon video. Yeah. But, um, I mean, it's fucking scary and confusing. Everything's like, yeah, but so if you're saying you're trying to keep your head down and make money, then how do you even talk about politics? I don't know.

Because it's like, wait, no, as I understand it, Sam, you are a very political guy. Everybody warned me that you have a very political stance, a very, I don't know. They said, don't hang out with you. They said that about it? Everybody did. Yeah, they're like, oh, no, I do that. I was like, oh, shit, I got to see who this guy is. That's pretty awesome.

Obviously, you're saying something shocking and avant-garde that I don't know about because I didn't research it, but you, if you want to address that, that would be helpful. I don't think white people should go extinct. I see. What do you mean, bro? That's not our choice, exactly. What do you want to do? You want to go Elon Musk, some comment every girl that you see?

You got a breeding fetish? I'm asking, seriously. What's the solution to white genocide? What do you mean genocide, bro? People add and flow a million years. We're all the same shit. We just have different skin tone or whatever. I would disagree.

I mean, look, genes are expressed in a variety of ways, but you're not so different from the man sitting next to you. This racially ambiguous Indian, Mexican? Who knows? Filipino. It looks so Asian. Exactly. All Asian.

All right. So you know, I'm saying like we don't even know what this guy is so uh that's awesome do you think that he doesn't have yeah yeah I mean all the time people tell me like oh yeah you're racially ambiguous I'm like not with that you're racially ambiguous but do you think that race doesn't matter and that everybody's the same no I don't think that everyone's same sometimes yeah I'd be I be I think like man those people should not be together they should not be together yeah like I'll see like I don't know man I don't know let it rip bro I mean shit like I'll see like I'll see like

I'll see, like, a black guy with a white girl. I'm like, ah, no, no. If I see, like, a, like, a white guy with a black chick, I'm like, yeah. Wow. You know what? He likes the underdog story. Yeah, yeah. I get it.

I get it. All right. Now, at first I thought you were racist. Now you're just, like, romantic. I get it. Yeah, yeah. You're racist. A little bit.

I mean, look, it's a natural baked-in people are racist. Like, you know, you want to argue with that? Like, look, it kept you safe for a billion years, right? but the reality is we've got to punch that out of our own head because I don't think that it benefits society or humanity as a whole to think like this they have to segregate each other you know let let the chips fall where they may I think

and just breed till everybody's the same color yeah fuck it's gonna happen eventually one day if we have enough so we have tubes like Futurama where you could just go to fucking Hong Kong it's gonna be homogenized eventually or we just turn into fucking robots so I would disagree but that's That's all I disagree with.

Yeah, I get it. Now, listen, you have your right to disagree. I don't think that people should cancel you for that or whatever they call it. They're people trying to cancel you for that? I think they should cancel me for that. It's a threat. Oh, what are you trying to eradicate the other races? No.

You're sitting next to this guy. Don't you tour with this kid? Jesus Christ, the Filipinos don't deserve to live. We're taking out all the Filipinos. Who said Filipinos don't deserve to live? What do you? No, I thought that's what you said. Why would you think that's saying that?

Because they lived on an island and they all. had to hump in the island. There's some Spanish guys. What does that have to do with anything that I said? I think it's kind of beautiful, the Philippines. They have the best-looking people. They're very friendly. They like to sing karaoke.

You can't lie. This is funny to me. No, no, I didn't know we were going to delve. You said something about karaoke? Yeah, hell yeah. They get down. Yeah, they invented that shit. Philip people's invented that shit.

Really? Yeah, they did. No. A little Filipino guy? Cody? Yeah, that's why they sing so fucking good. and they you know they're really good at pool too

I just started playing pool I'm like fuck I'm kind of good at this shit is Bruno Mars Filipino I think so yeah he likes crystal meth He likes crystal meth He likes crystal meth Yeah

I didn't know that He's up to Why you're out of Bruno Mars My mom smokes crystal meth He's Filipino Wait wait Wait How do you know he smokes crystal meth

I just heard about it I mean did you see how he dances bro Ice cold and not I think it's for the pipe, you know? Oh my God. That's a pretty cool podcast. So you've been, you've been divisive lately then.

There's a concerted effort to make white people feel like they shouldn't exist. And I think some of what we do, not all of it. I don't like to be overtly political. I think it, I'd rather be funny than be overtly political. but some of what we do is a pushback against that. And that's kind of where it ends. It's not like an anti-Philippa. I'm definitely not anti-Philippino.

Oh, that's a shame. But it's not really an anti-A. I was hoping we were just going to link to that. I was hoping that this is like the final scene, a casino. Have some self-esteem type sentiment. If you're white, you should have self-esteem. Like you shouldn't want,

you shouldn't think that your race should be obliterated off the face of the earth, which is what a lot of white people think. I have great self-esteem. I don't feel like they're trying to kill us or trying to get rid of us. So your case is a little different. You believe that people are all the same and that race is only skin deep. It's just, it's just color. It's not a skin deep. It's cultural. Yeah, of course, we're all different. Yeah, but I'm saying we're not so far away. You are wrong. We have to genocide people or something. You're wrong. I don't know where you're, I don't know. Your logic goes, okay, we got to stop talking to the kids I coach that are black or something. Who said that? Or I cannot, I can't date a girl at a different race. I trained at a black gym.

Who said anything about that? That's what I'm saying. So, all right, fine. But what, what, what are you saying? You're just saying that. That's what I'm trying to ask. I don't feel bad about being white. I'm just saying I'm a white guy.

I don't feel bad about being white. You're saying an end result 50 years from now, something like that where everybody's the same color, which means that white genetics, which are recessive. And it won't, though. Can I finish, bro? Yeah, sure. If you're interested, you don't have, if you're not interested, let's talk about Sorry, man.

Sorry, sorry, but... Yo, let's talk about video games or something. If you're not interested. Nah, come on, white boy. Are you interested? Listen, I'm listening to you. Come on. But you're interrupting me.

Excuse me. I didn't know you're making this entire theorem, but go ahead. You're saying that... It's not an entire theorem. It's just one point. Go ahead. Go ahead, man. I want to hear it.

Right now? If you don't want to, listen, I think that your logic's flawed, and I'll let you make your point. No problem. Let's hear it. I think your logic's flawed, but I don't feel the need to interrupt you. Fine. It doesn't need to be an...

Excuse me, you're right. It doesn't need to be an antagonistic thing, bro. But it is, because it goes contrary to my entire worldview that, you know, human beings are just all trying to get by. Like, we're not... You know, it's like you're making a game of five where, oh, there's never going to be white people. Yeah, dude, you definitely will have...

Any kid you have is going to have a light skin hue, even if it's with a black girl. So there you go. You got your piece of the genetic pie. But why? Like, what are you angry about? Why do you think I'm not angry? Okay, okay.

He didn't seem angry. No, you don't seem angry, but it seems like the logic is, oh, no, white people are not going to exist, but we will. Well, let's hear it. But why is this something that touches a nerve for you? Because I think that it's more important that ideas move forward throughout time. Like, not necessarily your genes. As a martial arts coach, I love that I do some moves,

that my art, it show my art, and it lives on. be when I'm long gone I'm dead that's cool yeah so to me but why so much I got a jizz on every girl that I see because oh no you know that's what I'm I just have a different mentality but why does it mean to not let you get your point out why does it make you why does it make you angry though that I have this this mindset that's different from yours I'm not angry about it I'm just vehemently opposed to this mindset it seems divisive and here in Los Angeles we're going through a divisive time right now where it's like hating each other for oh man look at the melon in his face or look at his mom is a smoking crystal meth i hate her

she's cool okay cool she does mean karaoke no let's hear this though i want to hear your perspective i would i would disagree with you um to me the idea is that people people of different cultures and races, they are unique. And I believe that people that look like me and share my genetics, I believe they have a right to carry on their legacy, their lineage into the future. And I don't think that needs to be a hateful thing or a divisive type thing or something where it means that we're better than somebody else, anything like that. I just think that we have a right to exist. White people do. Right. So you're, and you saying that, you're, or I, I'm assuming that you're making that point out of some sort of effort for that to not happen.

I think, I think that's, I would, I would like to contribute to it not happening, yeah. Right. But so you're assuming, your point is basically saying that there's a, there's another side, something or, or someone. Oh, yeah. There are many, I mean, so life is a competition for scarce resources. And, um, there's different, there, there, there, are different types of, there's different ways to wage warfare and to do invasion. And some of, some of these ways are passive, like outbreeding people. It doesn't even require malicious

intent from another group. If you have two, if you have two distinct groups, I mean, you see this in nature all the time where there's one that has either a K or an R type breeding strategy, whatever, like, they just, people who breed more, you'll have higher fertility. And those groups come up against each other, the group with higher fertility. if they're not, like, actively fighting just out, just wins out for the resources in that area and the group that has lower fertility loses out. So it's a natural, it's like, it's partly a natural thing,

and then there are also people who do this by design that want to see white people going by design, and so they're doing stuff to, like, manufacture this result. Like moving out to Utah and having eight wives, and then you get a bunch of Mormon kids. That's a good strategy. But so where do you think that's coming from then? Like you said, obviously naturally,

that's a thing that happens naturally, and there's people with high fertility rates and certain places in the world. Yeah. So where do you think the manufactured part is coming from? So here's an interesting thing that if you see a... This is just one example, but if you have a diverse workplace

and you're like a big corporation, one of the byproducts of having a diverse workplace of like multiracial people working for your company is that there's less group cohesion. People tend to ask for raises less, and people tend to want to unionize less and they kind of just keep their heads down and mind their own business

when there's no like homo mona how do you say it earlier? Homogeneity. Homogeneity in that group. You have this Filipino guy right here. You know, for instance, if we were all on a mission and we had a karaoke machine,

who the hell would run this thing? Mayhem's not doing it. I don't know how to fucking work that. You got it? My white ass? Hey, bud. I got it. I might be able to run it too. It's got to be damey.

You just disproved your theorem right there. I'm good with electronics. With that guy that you're also kind of look Filipino. Really? But there's, but like Italian or something? Yeah. Yeah, you nailed that.

Corporations though, they want, they want cheap labor and they want labor that's not going to complain. Yeah. So that's like an easy, that's an easy first level thing for like who is, who wants to bring Mexicans, Indians into this country. It's these companies that want like Mexican laborers or Indian H-H-1B. tech people so that they can pay them nothing and keep them here like slaves and you think that's

that's part of this that's one of the layers of this like who's pulling the strings why are they why are they trying to get rid of you're damn dead right about that sam high just this strategy of this strategy is employed in a lot of different businesses where you get you know labor either unskilled the guy you know the normal you know mexican guy at the chicken plant right or tech job Indian guys. I know you're famous hired Indian guys, huh? Yeah, all the time. And I got mad.

He's smart, smart guy, this guy. You have a bunch of Indian hires? No. Oh. But listen, no,

I saw this one time. No. Anyway, but he's right. The HB. What is it? H-1B. Ooh.

The visas, yeah. These smart guys, hey, you better work in this code. If you don't write this code, guess what? I'm like, pull your papers. And you're set there.

You're back to India. Yeah, they have to. They have to. Yep. They have to accept like shittier working conditions where they go go back to India. I know jobs could be on American coders, but yeah, this is an interesting thing. What do you think the point of it is, though?

Like of the, your overarching idea of like the white sort of white genocide and this. Well, I think that, I think that white people resist tyranny when they have racial cohesion, when they have like early Americans. I think there's a thread of like anti-government. anti-authoritarian, like, pro-freedom of speech. I think white people tend to be the most outspoken for stuff like freedom of speech. And that's why they got to be one reason why they got to go. Interesting.

I mean, that's why America started, essentially. But to fired up white people. Yeah, they were like, fuck these taxes and shit. We're out here. Yep. Yeah. So how long have you been, like, how long has this been a part of something that you think about or that you are interested in?

I mean, over 10 years, this is why our first show got. canceled is because I wouldn't shut my mouth about this type of stuff it got canceled on which platform adult swim oh it was canceled from a network yeah huh yeah so you had a show and on other content you were talking about it and then they canceled the show yeah we did we did this show um we had one sketch that was a music video called jews rock yeah and the only lyrics were jews rock and uh they they saw this they saw like our we had at the time we had a subreddit which was um thank you very uh it wasn't outwardly super racist but it was just like a you know free speech anything goes type

subreddit where just people are talking right what was the subreddit it was our million dollar extreme subreddit okay and um they were they told us they told us if you shut your subreddit down there's a chance we'll we'll let you stay on the air and i knew as soon as you start apologizing for anything it's just it just makes you they want you more and more powerless and they want you to like be a lap dog basically so well the contention was there was anti-semitic because this is what I heard about you that's the only thing I heard was that oh yeah guys anti-semitic so that was part of it are you or are you not what's well yeah no I am yeah oh you're anti-jew yeah okay so this is a bold statement not not not not not you're anti-zionist not in a way

not in a way where I like see a Jewish person I'm friends with like Harley the but I'm not I'm not like anti-every Jewish person that I meet, but they're definitely in positions of power where they're exercising their power in a way that is probably that is definitely unfair and unjust. They worked their way up to that position, though.

These guys, you know, invented Hollywood. Right? They kind of, they're clever and... They didn't. Look, I think Jewish people are smart, like... They're clever. They're... strategy, but that's no reason to hate them. That's like player hating.

No, it's not... I'm not saying I hate hate them because they're good at Hollywood. No, but what do you hate them for then? Well, they're at the, they're sort of at the upper echelon, echelon, is it echelon or echelon? Eschelon. Eschelon. They're at the upper echelon of

academia, finance, politics in this country, in this country. So shouldn't white people earn that the way they did? I mean, if you want to live in La Lala, I'm sure, but if, no, but it's like a meritocracy. They should be at the top, they should be at the top of those industries in Israel. But you believe in meritocracy, I assume, right? No, I don't.

I don't. Oh, okay. So, like, but you think you're a comedian, so if you'd be funnier than everyone else, they'll book you everywhere. I am funnier than everyone else, and they don't book me anywhere, and I don't care because I don't believe in meritocracy. Oh, hilarious. That's not funny. I believe in power. So you, you don't mind saying that you're anti-Semitic.

It doesn't make me feel good. I don't want to be, I'm not a hateful person. Like, I don't want to see anybody suffer, and I'm not like a, you know, I'm not whatever, but they're, look at what. what they're doing bro do you think what do you think about it man about which part they're they're actually dude how much you how much you make i make a good amount of money you make a ton of money in tax you make like 10 million a year more than that i mean i don't really share it but okay so imagine so you what are you you're paying what like five five million i pay a lot of so do you know that money is going to pay for genocide is that tax deductible is what tax deductible

I mean, it is if you're a, yeah, if you're Boeing or Lockheed Martin or something. But like, you're, you and I are both paying for people to be genocided. Yeah, it's, uh, that's, uh, and this, listen, here's the, this is the thing. If I, dude, if I like, uh, if somebody, like punches you in the face, that's an immediate wrong against you that's tangible and you know that this person means you harm and it's not, they're not good, right? Like that's in your, it's right there. It's happening. It's tangible. If the way, if I remember. move if I abstract away

the immediacy of a fist in your face and like physical violence happening to you right now. And I make it, let's just say I make it so that the currency that you trade, by the way, do you know what you trade for money? You trade your time, which is your life's blood.

Right. So to some people, money's the root of all evil. Like I understand that. Money's like gambling, cryptocurrency. There are parasitic ways to make money. But if you're a regular person, if you're working your ass off, if you have more than one job. If you have a family to feed, you're trading your time and your life's blood, your energy, what you have, what you've been given here on this earth, everything that

you've been given, you're trading it for money so that you can use it to pay for rent, food, shelter, whatever, everything else, right? Yeah. Um, and so if I, if I make it so that you're, oh, I can't, I can't tell if I'm being fucking trolled or not, I don't, is he, I think he's trolling me. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. If you, so if I make it so that this thing that you trade your life's blood for is worth half as much by printing more of it, by directly taxing you, the twin grist mills of taxation and inflation, I'm stealing from you your life. I am vampirically stealing from you your life.

Is that worse than a punch in the face? I think it's the worst thing you could do. Okay. So there we go. Yeah. And then I'm going to take that money and use it to like drop white phosphorus on people. So I guess my only question I have to that. is like, do you think that's, that's just an Israel thing?

Or is that also our government? No, it's certainly, I mean, our government and Israel are probably so intertwined that it would be like, you know, it would be a Herculean effort to try to un-interlace them. But, no, that's a tendency. Because it's not just a Jewish thing. No, for sure. It's people in positions of power who get there parasitically and people who want power for power's sake, which is these people are all drug addicts.

If you see the, who's the Zelensky, he's always on Coke, but every world leader, people that want, people that aspire to that level of, like, you aspire to be a media person. Imagine if your aspirations were a hundred times stronger than they are, and you need to be the most powerful person in the world. These are like fucking Cokehead of Cokeheads, like the top level.

You think they're all just doing Coke? Yeah, they are. Really? No, because political power, it has the same effect on the brain that cocaine does. That's why they go together. like that so just constantly searching for that high i just like to announce that i'm running for governor of california nice not gonna lie i would love to do that what's that governor yeah yeah

you want you want to taste i just feel like you know because i always think about i'm like could could this could this dynamic actually change but i feel like anyone gets to that point where they're in any sort of position of power and then someone just maybe comes like hey what about this You know, we can give you this if you keep doing that. No, there's mechanisms in place to ensure that if you get to that level of power, you're not an effective, you're not really effective at doing anything other than... So do you think, do you think the dynamic ever changes? I think the dynamic, it's similar to this thing called Amara's Law,

which has to do with technology. And Amara's Law is the idea that technology is overestimated in the short term and underestimated in the long term. So for example, with AI, AI comes out and everybody's like, oh my God, AI is changing everything. Turns out AI is not really changing everything. It's just like a better search engine. However, long term, people probably, even the top tier people that are like thinking about AI all the time, they probably don't have a vision for what this technology is going to do to our civilization long term.

So similarly with political change, I think that the change, it probably comes less from immediate short-term action the type of thing that people think you need to do to do political change and it probably comes from like weird left field unexpected asymmetrical things like bitcoin i think is a good um example i'm uh like bitcoin i think is going to sneak up and change a lot of change a lot of shit because the because it's not being as controlled because with bitcoin you can't print more money right there's only so much of it yeah and that's print the printing of the money is what's used to finance war and all these various...

Yeah, but what happens when the government just regulates Bitcoin? Somebody has to... It's going to have to be a strange thing. That's a threat. The regulatory capture of Bitcoin is a threat, and that's like a fight that people who are into Bitcoin are going to have to keep fighting. Do you think that ever happens?

I think it's possible. So the reason that wouldn't happen is because the sort of rich insiders, like BlackRock, they've built and are continuing to build their Bitcoin position. and once those types of people have it, they're not going to want to see it devalued, which I think if you changed the, if you mandated some change to the base protocol layer of Bitcoin and somehow we're able to enforce it,

I think it would just be mayhem and everybody would dump it and move on to like Solano or not even care about cryptocurrency anymore. So it's a game theoretic thing that's like morphing over time and it's hard to see what the future is, but I believe in it long term. Yeah. I bought all my Hock to a coin.

Oh, you did that? Yeah, yeah. I can't wait to it. It comes back. Yeah, I don't know if that's mad. I don't know, man. That might be an L. You think I should sell now?

I'm holding. All right, I'm holding. Yeah. Diamond hands. Diamond hands. Diamond hands hot to a coin. You guys are fucking crazy. Yeah, man.

So do you have this? Do you have this conversation a lot? Do you find yourself having this conversation a lot? Not about crypto, but about this power dynamics in the U.S. About race types? I mean, all this stuff. I try to, I like to avoid it,

but it's kind of hard to avoid when there's riots popping off 20 minutes away. So I understand. Yeah. Do you plan to go visit any of the riots? We were just like, probably five, 10 blocks away. We were in the other.

I just came from there, bro. It was awesome, man. We were throwing rocks. You know what I mean? You were throwing rocks? Yeah, we killed the cop. It was awesome. What is going on?

I was waving in I was on top of the Waymo Man those waymo Burned them all Yeah fuck those things Man set them on Light him up It's good times

No you get He was a star Bro he was a star He was dancing He was dancing He was dancing and I took I took some cops gun out of his Oh he had a skateboard

Bro they shot him 12 times Okay with the rubber bullets He walked it off Look at him like a boss Yeah he's got the Filipino flag It's like a Mexican flag You see that shit? Yeah I don't know why

They brought the Palestine flag out there, and I'm just like, wrong flag. Yeah, come on. You bring this to a Mexican event, and you're like, what the fuck is that? A Mexican event? Bro. Oh, my God. What do you think about the riots?

I mean, they got those pallets of bricks. It's probably a manufactured thing. I don't know. You think so? No, they didn't have pallets. They chipped them off on the side of it. Look, I noticed that place before. I rolled by Alameda and thought of this, because I just think crazy ideas all the time.

I thought of it that, hey, man, there's a lot of. rocks on Alameda Street Overpass, if like somebody jarred those loose, that could be a weapon. We should get them ideas. They used that as a weapon. And listen, I'm not here to guide anybody through anything. Why not? If you all get a riot, listen, you all go to riot practice on your own. I'm not doing that.

I coach professional mixed martial arts fighters. Yeah. And I ain't coaching nobody how to do a riot. Oh, man. Do you, you know who Eric Prince is? No. He's the guy from the Blackwater CEO. He tweeted something I thought was so funny.

He tweeted pictures of those bricks, those big pallets of bricks that someone's been leaving out. And he suggested that patriots, armed patriots show up to defend the bricks until the authorities can take them away. Can you imagine what would happen? Can you imagine what would happen if there were guys with guns showing up to defend? It would just be like, what do you mean, bro? A lot of people would die. Yeah, but I saw those Amazon packages. They actually, I saw the packet slip.

but said George Soros on it. He-H-H-H-H-A-L-A-L-A. So it was one of those, the things I think. So you're saying that they're dropping pack, pallets of rocks to insight. They got pallets of rocks so you can go out and grab a rock and go smash a car.

Where do you see that on TikTok? I was on Twitter. On X. Elon Musk. So time out. They went to Home Depot, picked up a bunch of them guys, picked up some pallets of rocks.

Yeah. Paving stones. Put them out there for the kids? Yeah, probably. All right. Sounds believable to me. Yeah. You didn't see that guy

giving out like, those face masks. Yeah, listen, if I, you heard it on Twitter. Yeah, like somebody was saying,

like you can't just buy that shit in bulk unless you're going to do something with it, you know? Yeah, there were some riot practice guys out there? All right, all right. False flag?

What's your take on it? Why do you think they're doing that? I don't know. I mean, it's, people have suggested that it's to distract from something that Pallentier's doing. Yeah.

um embedding embedding itself further in the in the deep state getting americans data whatever i don't know i haven't looked into it though i don't know yeah it sucks because it's just that there's there's the whole conversation around immigration in general and it's just kind of like because it becomes violent it it messes up it ruins the sort of the conversations or like the ability to make actual immigration reform and have it actually be more efficient for people yeah i'm with you that's a weird thing that now you see those pictures we don't want those guys it gives everyone excuse to be like look we told you yeah let's you're right but man that you're absolutely right it's a bad optics isn't it yeah if you want to push forward because i think that

we need immigrant in california specifically 10% of people are illegal so okay you're gonna kick all them guys out it's gonna take a minute it's gonna cost a lot of money when a lot of them dudes pay taxes already right give them a paperwork to go do and okay now you're citizen asshole pay the taxes that that's all we asked in california pay the taxes so we could spend it on whatever you know and they don't have a path for that and if they do they're getting hemmed up at the courthouse well and man there's a lot of people been trying for a long time yeah that just that you know obviously then they get trumped and the whole the optics of them doing that gets fucked because of the millions of people who just come in here illegally somewhere else i'd have a different

attitude because you don't see it like that but here in california it's already done like the border was open and guess what everyone ran in so I don't know like you're just going to spend a lot of money getting rid of dudes that just work at Home Depot just so they're dough

cut your grass there's cleaning lady you know there's a lot of people that are just man they escaped crazy ass war we get it we get it they got to assimilate I'm with that and take the test I'm with that and be Americans

that's where I'm at so yeah you know that my piece about immigration. Fair. What's your take on it? Opposite. You think they shouldn't?

I think they gotta go. All of them? Yeah. It's gonna be so much money and so hard. And you see them wars out there? People are going to keep fighting. You snatch my grandma from the sewing factory? Well, I'm throwing rocks at you.

Yeah. 100%. 100%. Why do you land there? Um, they just got to go. You don't see the value? No.

buddy you're going to lose the force okay fine i don't know what white boy is going to work them farm jobs because i ain't doing it i i burn how come every other country gets to have borders no we do we fucked up though it's not about joe biden or whoever fucking i don't know who let everybody in but it happened and now we got to do something about it and your extermination camp idea is not so good you know i don't think that's a very american well let's talk about i obviously i agree that a country needs borders to operate as a country. I think that that process needs serious reform to allow people to come in in a productive way.

And I think that just for so long, a lot of people have come in because they're looking for a better life. I don't think there are just tons of criminals forever have been coming here. I'm sure some have come here, and I'm sure there are a lot. But there are, I also know tons of people who have come here

just to have a better life and who are really active good members of the society. it's like it's hard for me to just say no zero immigration and and and to retroactively go and be like all right fuck all these people who've been here for 30 years who have just been contributing good i understand why someone to go let's go retroactively go and say get all these fucking if there's criminals who have been contributing bad let's get them out it's just how do you how do you discern that and situations like this in l.a creates a situation where optically you go it allows the people controlling to go like we told you they're all bad look at them burning

stuff fucking shit up they're bad let's get them all out but most of these people aren't bad people i agree i don't think they're i don't think they're bad people i don't want to see i don't like to see anybody suffer i think that's a um terrible thing and i don't want to you know feel i don't want to if there's uh families and stuff and there are tears it's a sad it's a sad thing but we need a country we need a country yeah um and it's uh this this notion that every other country in the can have borders and have their own people and protect their own people and we're the ones that have to absorb people from these shithole countries it's just a crackpot notion and it's got it's got to be stopped like people have to stop thinking this way yeah thinking what way that

this is that this is the this is the land where everybody can come and live the american dream because this not so what what at what time in the american history do you think that should have stopped because that was that's what america is based on that we came from somewhere else we said we're going to make this place probably when they started letting uh Hispanics in so when we so when we expanded the 50 Pinos count i'm didn't he open for you so when we when we expanded from like the more eastern half to the western half and took more and that's when i'm not i'm not real big on history i don't know anything i'm kind of a stupid guy. Because it was Mexico. Yeah, but I am big on history. And from 1846 to 1848,

the, but the Mexican-American War. And at which point, Mexico said, yo, fuck, you got too much guns. Forty-eight, they're like, fucking here, give us $15 million. You can have California. Yeah, that's what happened. I'm really, I'm not interested in, like, arguments or what's fair. Like, I don't, I don't think it's fair. I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody really is interested in arguments or what's fair. It's kind of like if you're, if I, if we're talking and I'm losing the argument, but somehow, like, what you're saying is, like, not fair. I would just be like, but don't you think it's not fair? Yeah.

And then all of a sudden, like, I'm not talking about anything being fair. No, no, no. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, this is this idea that stuff has to be logical, fair, well-reasoned, historically accurate, et cetera. That's all I don't care about is my people. I don't care about anything else. I just don't. Wait, who's your people, Scotch Irish? White people.

What do you mean, white? White is a wide variety. I'm Scotch Irish and Polish But I don't care about that That's not something I care about But what you're just talking At what level I just wouldn't

I just wouldn't listen I just wouldn't listen to it Is he in our club or is he in the Filipino club? It doesn't matter Because I wouldn't argue with that And I don't care Wait you're saying Your whole argument is

White people need to survive White people are the best or I don't know But white people But is he in the club It doesn't matter What the fuck? The whole argument matters Dude

Are you crazy? It's not an argument You're saying white people No, you're saying white people deserve more. It's not, bro, you're off base, dude. It's not an argument. It's not an argument.

It's not an argument. What are you talking about? White people, but you can't even, who is it like a family guy chart of white, white, what the fuck? Oh,

now this guy's black. Now this guy's too black to fucking hang out with us. Fuck off. It's, it's post argument. It's not, like I'm not listening to arguments anymore and I don't want people that listen to me

and are fans of me to listen to arguments. either like the time for the time for the time for the time for the time for the time for arguments and reasoning it's over it's not it's proven that it's gone it has it's been proven that it goes nowhere and it's time to just worry about yourself and fuck your girl worry about your people so you can have another white kid worry about your people and like take care of your circle but i am my circle is really big so and your your perspective is like that this this is kind of going back to the

white genocide thing again that's orchestrated partially yeah partially yeah i don't i don't think i think the mexicans who are rioting i don't think most of them have are orchestrating anything other than other than the uh their own internal self-interest that they love mexico and they want to they want to take over california isn't and i'm i'm not trying to argue but i'm trying to make this point isn't what you're saying about white people surviving or you know caring about themselves exactly the same thing that we would consider that the Mexicans or Jewish people or black people or any group of people is doing when they...

Yes. Yeah. It's racial self-interest. Yeah. But wait, but some people are not going, I'm a black dude. I need to spread my... What? I'm not... I'm a Mexican. I need to... You're just you doing that. Yeah. It's like confusing to me. Yeah. That's fine. It's fine. Anyone... Listen, to anyone's thoughts, I'm not... I'm definitely the person who sides on, let's

fucking talk about it. I'm not like I don't go, you know, we can't talk about this. We have to talk about that at all. I love talking about it. It's like, don't misunderstand me. I'm having a lot of fun. Yeah, no, this is good. I guess when we go back to the immigration thing, it's like at what point do we say this is, that's enough. Like right now today?

Well, if you guys want to close the door, fantastic. And then now, but now we got to do something. Okay, you want to send them all back? Damn, I guess I got a lot of guys going to have a job. Hogtime people. And as an expert at sub-doing people, I would like to offer them free introduction. course.

Behemnow.com. Yeah, you're stupid. Yeah, but, you know, the thing is that they're here, you know, they're weird. The thing is, right now, it's like, there's obviously people have lived here

for like a very long time. Sure. 30 years. If 50, 30 years, yeah. Yeah. Now, look, I'm akin to Mountain Man Jim Bridger, which makes me a little bit engine.

So, what's up, white man? Why are you on my land? Good point. it ain't fair good point I mean because we like listen I understand the American thing

and like you know if you're in America like you should respect this country and I understand that but like if we're just America as a whole the way it was also built was like we you know we conquered another group of people and we took what was also theirs

and now it's ours and now we're making rules around it and I understand how that's how history works it's how human history has been forever but are we so sort of brash to say that okay now now now in America this place where we are where we came across from Europe and you know white people came and they this is ours we say now all of these people who are also indigenous and lived here forever are just not should not be here listen I think I mean that's what we did we eradicated exactly what we did I think we can

talk about particulars and that's kind of like an interesting topic this The thing that I feel the most strongly about that I'll make a statement about is that it is imperative that white people start having racial self-interest, start having self-esteem and start acting in terms of the racial self-interest the same way that Mexicans, the same way that blacks, the same way that all other races do before they get erased and no longer exist. I feel that's fair and don't you think both those things could happen like immigration can still be a thing that happens while that is also happening I mean a lot of things could be happen could be things that happen while other things are happening like it's just not um the the people that are pushing the bad stuff they're pushing so hard they want you to spend time worrying about what if this what if that that's not something that we have time for I don't think so I take you're not a Hassan fan I don't, is he a pro-immigration guy? Yeah, big time.

Okay. I mean, I don't, it's, he's, but it's his prerogative to have, I wouldn't, see, I wouldn't argue with, I wouldn't argue with Hassan. It's his prerogative to have that opinion. He's Turkish. Yeah. So he's, he wants to be somewhere that's not Turkey, because Turkey sucks dick, because it's full of Turkish people.

It's beautiful. You ever been? No. I love, do you get a hair thing done? I'm going to. Hell yeah, I'm going to. Hey, I'm not. Extra moops.

Fuck, yeah. Let's go. It's fucking beautiful there. Would you want to go together? Let's go, guys. I'm down. Turkey. I'm going to go to Turkey, Turkey, Turkey, Turkey.

We're going to emigrate over there. And we're not going to adhere to their culture. We're going to completely be Americans. We're just going to go and booze it up over there. Just party. You got bitches over there, too. Listen, man. I love this young guy, Mike.

Hey, I had a homie there. Every place I would go all over the world fighting. Bro, I would go to Japan. I would come back. this guy, oh, Japan? Chicks, man. Yeah, yo, I just went to Poland. Poland?

Foles. Chicks, man. All right, with the Amsterdam. He didn't even say anything. We already knew. Yeah, we know it's in Amsterdam. So, okay, but the notion of all this stuff. Hassan knows what's in Amsterdam.

Hassan Minaj? Why, what does he know? What does he know in Amsterdam? I don't know, look it up. Oh, man. Whatever. He did something in Amsterdam? He did something in Amsterdam?

He did something in Amsterdam. What do? I don't look at the details. Have your producer pulled up. What did Hassan do in Amsterdam? The man's not here. You're not here, so Google it. Yeah, Google it.

Hassan in Amsterdam. Hey, is this normally what this shows about? It's a real political discussion or Sam Hyde specifically on a political guest. I didn't want to talk about racism and stuff. I did not want to get it. I don't mind your offensive ideas. I think that you have the right as American. You mind them more than most people.

Yeah, because I have well-reasoned arguments against all this trash. So, I guess what I was, what I wanted to get at was where, when did you start going for youth? I mean, just when did you start going towards? Hey, Pam, I really like, I appreciate you having me on. No, I love, dude, I'm, I'm the biggest Mayhem Miller. Yeah, hell yeah. Hey, but listen, I, you know, I think there's a fundamental plot and logic, but we'll say that we can still be friends. That's all I'm saying.

I will be your friend as long as you'll be my friend. Whatever, bro. What if I date a black girl? We'd be mad about it? What if I have a baby mama that's black? What is wrong with you? Oh, my God, mayhem, you're watering down the white race. What is wrong with you, bro?

A weird, like, kind of, dude. Dude, this is your boy. You could say, I don't know. I don't know, I just showed up. You could date a straight up, you know how Peruvians got them little ass heads? Listen, bud. You can come bring me your, if I get a Peruvian baby mama with your little ass salad bowl head. No, I'm going to take the head and wrap it and make it like an alien.

You ever see a Cape Burdian's head? You ever see a Cape Verdean's head? It looks at some salad bullshit. Oh, dope. It's an olive garden. It's tiny. It's tiny. It's tiny.

Unlimited bread bowl. If you came to me with the Cape Verdean girlfriend and you said this is my way, I would say, I am so happy for you, Mayhem Miller. I'm glad you found somebody. Cape Birdian, yeah. It's a black girl. They got some little ass heads, bro. Oh, all right.

Where's Cape Town? Hopefully it doesn't get my white genetics. Well, I mean, it's up to you. It's up to you. It depends on how hard. you bump. Wait, what is Cape Verde? Cape Verde and there's guys

with the little ass heads. But like, where is that like geographically? Cape Verdy. It's off the gold coast. It's off the gold, but is your Gabba Island? What?

I think it's, I think it's on the west coast to Africa, is that right? Correct. Geography's horrible now. My geography is pretty sick. Well, so let's get back into it. So where did you start

thinking about this kind of stuff? When did you start even like making this? I started thinking about it when people took, uh, took, is it umbrance or umbrage? Umbrage. What was the inciting incident? What, what happened to you?

Who hurt you? When people started taking umbrage with the stuff that I was saying to be funny I was trying to be a comedian and I was trying to be funny and people started being like oh you're racist and that's when I started thinking about it

So how long was it? Probably 10 years ago Wait I'm trying to understand Black people die laughing at my shit I know okay good Black people laugh But the Jews not so much

Their fucking asses off at my shit But all right So what Turned you this direction I'm trying to see where you got extremified. You know what I'm saying? I don't even know. I mean, it's not necessarily extreme.

No, no, I think it was. But it's a little bit like, what do they call that? When you make a terrorist? Make, when you make a terrorist? Yeah, yeah. When you're, oh, this guy is now, uh, I don't know. Radicalized. Radicalized.

When did you get radicalized? Sam Hyatt? So you're saying that. I believe your ideas are kind of radical. Wanting white people to continue existing. That's akin to radical terrorism. Well, I'm just saying, man. If I'm being a black girl, maybe hint on,

it might accidentally fuck up your whole plan. No, I wouldn't. I'd be happy for this. Or are you be happy for me? I don't care about that. But it goes against your worldview. It kind of makes me feel weird. It doesn't go against my worldview.

I just think that white people should be allowed to exist. Nah, we are, though. We're doing it. I'm right here, bro. I'm having a blast with you guys. I think I'm white. Oh, damn it. You know what you're not.

Look, my grandpa's white. Daniel is wider than us, bro. Will you please look up the family guy, chart and see if this guy qualifies yeah let's see it did you watch world peace oh we don't got a camera on that do you watch comedy at all no I used to watch a lot more yeah yeah yeah that one right up one down one right up one oh they got the high tech chart there oh shit I don't know the actual features there but that's the scale yeah this is not Daniel's white I don't care all right um my dad stepped so did you see did you see did

Did you see fish tank? What do you do with your free time? Do you work all the time? Yeah. Yeah. How old are you? 36. Yeah.

Probably not a good thing. I mean, do you have kids? No. I mean, now's the time to put the gas pedal down and try to make money. With entertainment, you never know if you're going to be washed in like five years.

So if you're making money now, just gas pedal down, mash it. Yeah. I mean, I've been doing it for like 15 years. Yeah. Long time. Yeah. But what I mean is like you never know when that, window is going to like slide off you yeah of course i think it's i think it's important to have

the well if you say a bunch of racist stuff then you're really going to get kicked off yeah yeah potentially so so you said about 10 years ago you're doing comedy and you the reaction or yeah people were i was just saying stuff to be funny and it was like the beginning of kind of woke shit cancel can you got to watch what you got to watch what you say and i just i could never operate like that like i can't watch what i say i'm not going to live like that yeah yeah it's definitely become way more i think actually i feel like it's eased up a bit though yeah it has yeah in the last the last like two years specifically for sure what do you think caused that people are fucking tired of there i think maybe yeah people getting uh stand up i feel

like stand up kind of like eased it yeah it's outrage burnout standups you know how standups like huge yeah after covid i don't i think that that did a did a lot to um push it to get the needle moved um and i mean i don't even encounter people day to day that are like that bad like you really don't see like you know bumper stickers with even anybody's opinion on it um there's more normal normal people than there are assholes with like an opinion to ram down your throat but yeah um in entertainment there's a lot of people that want to ram their opinion down your throat yeah we definitely we definitely got to that point i just feel like we're getting sort of out of it um there's obviously still a level of control on most of the platforms that uh i said i think

with the exception of x that uh you can't really there's certain things you still kind of can't say um so do you find yourself trying to change or like alter the things that you say no well this show that we just shot which is called extreme peace it's yeah it's really just straight funny like it's not There's nothing in it that's political or pointed or trying to, trying to make a, send a message or anything. It's just trying to be funny. That's what I want to make. Like if I, if the, uh, the system, like the powers that be will allow me to make that without fucking with me. That's what my ideal outcome is.

Just comedy. Just comedy. Yeah. And that's what also our show, we have a show of fish tank. So extreme piece is MDMDE.tv. It's a million dollar extreme. And then fish tank is fish tank. But that's just a reality show.

there's no like there's nothing racist about it it's a fucking reality show yeah it's super unhinged it was on the first season was cool and where does that where does that is that on a just a site of your own or it's our own our own back end we built our own streaming back end nice damn that's i mean that's probably the best way to go about it in some in some spaces for sure yeah we especially comedy if you build a business on quicksand you're eventually going to get you know rug pulled like if you're on someone else's platform and you're doing anything that's like left or right of where they want you to be, you're going to have eyes on you and eventually you might get taken. You can't,

you don't want to invest five years of your life on a platform that can just pull your account and blam you. You got mentioned on Joe Rogan recently, I think by Shane Gillis. What's your reaction to that? Because I have a question that leading up to what you just mentioned about Joe Rogan in regards to getting rug pulled. Very highly honored. I mean, I think Shane's probably the funniest person alive right now. Yeah. And he's like a cool guy also. and Joe's. Well, I'm sitting right here. I'm the funniest person alive.

Oh, yeah. And I don't know if that's true, but obviously Joe's like a super important. You'll find out person. So, yeah. So what I was going to say to your point about like being rug pulled, because I agree, there's definitely to that extent, do you think Joe Rogan could ever get rug pulled? I think that at his level, he's got, he's got people trying to rug pull him in different ways. But like you could just take Joe Rogan off of Spotify.

Kicked off of YouTube? Is that what you're saying? We got kicked off YouTube, yeah. Oh, okay. See, I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with this whole story. So you got kicked off for anti-Semitic comments? Something like that, yeah.

What did you get kicked off YouTube for? I can't even remember. It was, I honestly can't remember why we got kicked off YouTube. But you got like three strikes and all that? It was years ago. Yeah, we got three strikes, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think we might have had two channels that got yanked.

And you can't. Well, you have, but you have YouTube channels still. So they still allow it to be up there. They do now, yeah. It's different. I mean, Susan would just, whatever name is, she's dead. There's different people there. So they allow you to be on YouTube now.

It's different people. It's a different time. Yeah, nothing that I say is like fucking, like, super mode. Right. It's pretty basic bitch. Like have some, if you're white, have some self-respect. Stop fucking being a faggot. Yeah.

Type thing. I get it. So you, but you think Joe. as people trying to pull them in directions. Yeah, anybody at that level who's saying anything that's off the script is going to have people fucking with them. But at any level, don't you see

in entertainment that we all have to like, we have to dance around landmines a little bit? I guess you don't because you have your own streaming service. But, you know, I think anybody like you can't say anything anti-Semitic or, because you have a big presence on YouTube, no.

I'm right about this, right? Joe's probably got people that want him dead for talking about COVID stuff. I mean, who, Anthony Fouchy and laying in the bushes in the prone position with a sniper rifle? Well, I feel like that stuff has gotten like, it got okay to even speak on the negative

viewpoint, like how terrible of a fucking, yeah, we all realized there's a lot of fuckups during COVID. Yeah, like they came back and we're like, oh, this is actually good for you and this isn't just a horse to warmer and all these different things. Like, when it was happening, yeah, I remember he's on CNN and trying to make it look like a crazy

person. Yeah, they made him blue. Yeah, or like yellow. John does say, made him. Yeah, put a filter on him. And he said he's taking, he's encouraging people to take horse dewormers. Which that is of medicine for horse deworming, but apparently it does something. But it's also been using humans for like 30 years and has a little about price. But yeah, they had to paint that narrative because everybody's at home and they want the most views on their commercials.

Well, they want everyone taking pharmaceuticals. Oh, of course. This is the way capitalism rules. Yeah. And that's the thing of all this that just sucks, I think, right? Because you ask about certain things that I can or can't say, yeah, there are definitely conversations that, like, I kind of like try to either avoid or I try to have in ways that, you know, as tactfully as I can.

But it definitely, it's definitely an interesting space now because, you know, there's a lot of stuff to talk about where, you know, you specifically mentioned like the, um, the stuff in Israel. And it's like you can't really, you can't even say that this is a genocide or you can't say that it's like even a terrible thing in some to send some people yeah you can't even say it's bad yeah it's it's interesting you gotta be like this is just it's it's it's interesting because it's in and there's nothing in me like that does not like jewish people like i have i have tons of jewish friends i don't i don't mind it at all and to to talk about something that's happening just ingest

and you don't talk about it the way i think like they want you to sort of talk about it you get labeled in a way that's like oh you just don't like jewish people it's like well that's not true well no but he said that he just doesn't like Jewish me. He did say that. Yeah, he said anti-Semitic. He's on in the labor. I love, I have I have great Jewish friends, so I can't. Me too. But there are, there are sort of, you know,

things that happen geopolitically that, yeah, I kind of don't always speak about. Number one, because I also don't know enough about the whole thing. Because this is a thing that, if we're talking about the thing in Israel and in Gaza, is like, that's, that has been a feud for a long time, a very long time. since like pre-history a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. It's been a thing. It's been an issue for a while, right? But what lately do you think it just only happened? So I don't care and I'm not going to look into it. However, I saw one video of a, you know, those like open-air prisons where they pack in Palestinian people. Yeah. There were Jews having a barbecue outside this internment camp. so that, deliberately so that the smell of the food would make these starving Palestinian people hungry.

And I saw that and I decided, you know what, I don't need to know about 6,000 years of history. I'm okay. Yeah. I'll make up my mind and I'll play a fucking counterstrike with the rest of my time. The free time I just earned. I prefer a call-duty war zone actually.

I hear you. But, you know. I hear you. Yeah, no, I'm not saying what's happening is great at all. I'm just saying like, yeah, I do find myself having conversations and having a lot of conversations, even off air where i'm like where i do you as an american feel a little bit like they're talking

about cricket scores cricket scores it's like people are very passionate about cricket but are you am i passionate about crick or am i passion about what's happening no i'm saying as an american yeah that's like a different sport a different league a different because it's so far away yeah i feel bad about that i feel bad about that as a human being i have some empathy for uh the Palestinian people. I get it. But also their interests don't align with the Israel. And apparently that's our biggest ally in that area. That's true. So that's just business, but, you know, I'm a co-hearted man. I have 50 professional fights. But I can see both sides of the whole entire thing without being an expert on it. And since we have a microphone, it's a hard conversation.

I'm talking about it. If we took that notion of like thought and just applied it to anything, then eventually at some point that's willfully allowing it to happen to you at some point in some regard so it's like if we just say well it's too disconnected from me let's not even speak like that's why I said earlier

if they snatch my grandma I would be throwing rocks same thing if they kept my family stuck over there I would be very angry at the people over the fence yeah so I understand but I also see that you know what they did on that day the seven then okay

you're stirring up you're poking the bear and this that's going to happen you know it's like the metaphor I used before was if Gavin Newsom did some crazy stuff

and Trump came and sent everybody and I'd be like yo man I ain't got nothing to do with the Gavin Newsom I didn't vote for that I didn't even vote what the hell

I'm just trying to be mixed martial arts coats why are you throwing rockets at me why are you bombing me why are you killing my family you know I would be confused. So I have the devil advocate disease where I can look at

things from every perspective. I guess it's because I did so many fights. So I, you know, I know what my opponent is trying to do. And so I can think in his shoes. Same thing. All these conflicts, again, to me it's cricket. It's over there. I don't understand it that

much. And I just know that it sucks for both sides of the people. And when the two elephants are fighting, the grass suffers. I see what you're saying. yeah sorry that got super heavy bro no no it's fine way to bring you that warfare into it it's a fuck situation there's no and we're just podcasters trying to entertain the masses yeah there's definitely no easy way to talk about it it's not it's not a good thing either way

nobody likes murder death and the you know look we like violence on tv and in the cage we like to watch control violence but you know we just human beings we're just trying to live our life trying to do our best, trying to feed our families, trying to raise our kids, being white, black, Asian, or Italian. Italian, I'm not letting them in the white club. What the fuck, bro? Sorry, bro. The fuck is this?

He is. But if we're going to talk races, I don't think, white, black, dude, sorry, guys. You're Sicilian or something? What the fuck? What's wrong with Italian? We know. What's wrong with the time? We know all about you guys.

What the fuck? The barbers. We know all about, yep. That's crazy. That's crazy. I thought of you all. I fuck with y'all, though. No, no, don't get me wrong.

I'm fuck with y'all. Just not white. Yeah, it wasn't in the beginning. You were like, no, I'm not racist. Now, of a sudden, fuck white. I don't know. I don't know. Like, different voice started taking over and talking about.

Bro. I told you I'm the funniest guy I heard. You're up there. For sure. You definitely up there. So what do you focus on your show now? Like the show that you do on the live stream thing? The, the Dear Elon video, that's Sam Hyde show.

Yeah. that's going to be so do you know do you ever heard of art bell i think so a coast to coast a m late night yeah yeah radio show host i want to do something that's um i'm aiming for aesthetics so it's going to be like cozy vibes vintage audio dark dark lighting browns warm reds that kind of thing it's going to be for people to like sort of fall asleep to but it'll also be um just twitter shit posting stuff too at the same time We have Jay Dyer. You know what Jay Dyer is?

You should try to get him on your show. He's good. He's a writer. He's writing for it. Pat Dixon, Ryan Rivera, a bunch of people working on it. Who are some of the inspirations you have in comedy? In comedy, you ever see Tim and Eric? No.

You never seen Tim and Eric? No. Is that? You ain't seen shit. Tim and Eric, for sure, wonder shows and just adult swim stuff from back in the day. Damn, yeah, I miss that shit Gotta watch the Big Les show, bro Oh my God, I gotta get that on DVD

The big what show? Nothing. Oh, the Big Led? Les. The Big Les? It's a dude named Les. Not a Les. Yeah, it's an Australian show.

Ah, Bonsa Mike. You're skits him out. Yeah. Anyway, but yeah, Hey, Tim and Eric, man, they were a cultural phenomenon back in the day when I was famous guy. High Five, you remind me of his face.

No wonder. all uh white power because uh this guy was a very uh what so fuck he looked just like you a shame you gotta clip that you know what he's a big goofy guy i like that guy i dapped him up at uh mtv music awards he's a cool guy that guy uh i congratulated him on starting a revolution now me personally i like a dr john brule brul's rules oh yeah you know because it's john c riley you know big shout out a big dog. I came to your fire benefit. I'm sorry your house burned down. But yeah, common

geniuses. Tuchet. Tim and Eric kicks ass. Okay. Yeah. A lot of heavy editing and weird situations. Filipino kids, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I get it. Me. Yeah, yeah. I get it. But yeah. You know, you might have missed. You might

have missed it. You missed it. But don't worry. No worry. You'll get it later. Do you think your your type of stuff will be will ever be on YouTube? We have clips on YouTube and stuff like that. But can I get back on? Let's get you back on. We got stuff on YouTube. We're not banned from YouTube.

What about TikTok? Are you banned from TikTok? No, no, we got TikTok. TikTok is the wave now. We're not super banned. We're not super banned right now. Like you said, it's getting better. It's like getting easier out there to say stuff. Yeah, we should post more on your TikTok.

Yeah, yeah. Didn't you do some fighting stuff, right? I did one boxing match. Yeah. Then I trained, I trained Harley and Brandon Buckingham for their fights. You did. Partially, Harley, for like a week. You won your fight, right? Yeah, I won you.

Yeah. Who's your dream celebrity boxing match? For me? Yeah. I think you know it. Oh, you got beef. Bro, I didn't know about this. Who got beef with?

Yeah. I just want to hear it. You know, it's a son piker. How did that beef start? I just thought it would be funny to tell him I was going to kill him. Do you say Hassan Piker? His name, yes. Isn't this very small Arab man?

He's not small. Why are you bullying a small Arab? He's not a little dude. No, he's not. He's a little tiny dude. No, he's got to reach on him? He's a big guy. Shit, bud.

You better quit smoke cigarettes. He's thinking about Hasbula. Yeah, no, yeah, he's not. He's tall. He's big. He's a big dude. Oh, Hasbullah? I want to put Hasbula into a fucking acid bath.

Nah, bud. What? Yeah. He's such a nice dude. He's so nice. He's so nice. Disgusting bones are. Really? Put him in a blender. No, dude, he's so nice.

He's got to go, bro. No, he's smoothy. Kiss him. Kiss him and put him in a wood chipper. No, dude. He's so cool. He's such a nice dude. He's adorable. With his little hat. What the hell?

He has a hat, right? I don't know. Yeah, he's a shirt. But he's like an adult, you know that, right? Yeah, listen, I don't care. You can get it too. Good. Sign the waiver. What the fuck. Let's go, baby.

No, but so why did it start? Oh, I thought we're next opponent. No, why did it start with Hassan? I think, I just thought it would be funny to fucking call him out. I don't think it was really sophisticated. I mean, the one thing I'll say is that he's, uh, so his, if you get, if you get jacked, okay, part of that, part of what that entails, like, you don't just get jacked by accident. So part of it's like, um, talking about robbed or talking about fucking buff, getting buff. Part of that is because you want the weight of your weight.

words to be to carry more like you want to have more power physically you want people to know that you're physically powerful and therefore you it's like you want your your thoughts to be more prominent yeah potent too so um you if you have that I think him not being able willing to fight for it like he's not he's not willing to throw down with somebody that's got the same level of training as him and is the same size as him and it's his like life's work is to like make this political message it's hypocritical wait so this guy has real jack that he doesn't want to fight he's just a bodybuilder yeah well i mean that's his right as a bodybuilder you don't have to fight and not everybody has to bite so because he's you want to

fight him he should have to fight i think he should if he's going to he's got to back up what he's saying he's got to have to fight yeah well he's he talked bad about you though uh not really i don't i think he avoids mentioning me when possible buddy i'm in the fight business okay you want to make that fight happen okay if this guy wants to sign on the dotted line i'll be glad to promote this match we got to line it but i would tell you advise you uh to score you uh to Quit smoking cigarettes, maybe do a little dieting. Well, that's why you're... That's why you're my coach.

Oh, what the fuck? You got to get him right. I don't mean you got enough money for me to be your coach. I coach professional mixed martial arts athletes who take the job very seriously. I'm not fucking around. I don't have to do shit. You were coaching me? I don't have to do shit.

If you were coaching me, I would work as harder than anybody you've ever seen. All right. We're fucking putting them cigarettes out. All right. Okay. Yeah, put the cigarettes. That's my coach. I mean, but I'm not even taking you on as a student.

Are you kidding me? no no no he picked it out of the ashtray yeah I don't I don't understand I got signed up to that I got real professional fighters that rely on me

I'm gonna rely on you well is this guy is this guy an Assan Minaj gonna fight you or not he I don't know you're the promoter and okay well listen

I'm asking a question that this guy is not even in the realm of possibility for an opponent let's match you up with somebody that you can they will fight you uh maybe a jew he just tried just he just i'm saying big old jew i think it'll be a good matchup i think that we could sell tickets to that there's definitely an angry

angry jewish guy and look you are what i'm not 205 so what you're a super heavy weight then i'm a 201 205 or my you ain't walking out you guys are similar way you and hasan are similar way i'm 270 right now oh you're 270 you're gonna have to cut five pounds to make the limit I got visceral fat. I got to get rid of. Damn. Have you always been heavier, bigger? Yeah.

You're always tall, obviously. 260, 270. Damn, you're like me. You never played football or nothing? No. You never, you were a big kid then? I only did,

I did Muay Thai, did Jiu-Jitsu. I did, um, Kung Fu. I did Taekwondo. I never, I never did like team sports,

though. That's a wide variety of, uh, yeah, singular, um, combat sports. So is it,

is it actually real beef? You just, you just would like to fight. I don't care about that fucking guy. I mean, he's, I think at this point, he's kind of, he's kind of like, he seems to be catching L's in his audience is like, yeah, yeah. I mean, all right, we'll stoke some fire, and there you go. You guys both sell more tickets, both sells more YouTube.

He just, every time I see him crop up on Twitter, it's just like a, he looks bad. Like, they're doing soy jacks of him and shit. I don't know. I don't follow him. I don't know what this. No, I thought Twitter beef was over now that it was X, but I guess it still lives on. There's a new thing, YouTube beef. Well, shit.

At Mayhem, Millie. they're just internet beef those guys they kind of like the leftist they sort of eat each other alive like that's why i don't that's why i haven't pursued like beef with him aside from the call out i did years ago is because those people are like like they can't say the right thing to their own fan base like their own fan base is like pissed at them half the time because they said something like politically not right yeah you know what i know what you're talking about it's too liberal people are very uh oh you can't say this and that and this and that that seems like the culture the whole woke thing that we're kind of tired to talk about this stage that it's it's receded

because everyone got it they're like oh everyone's like afraid you they them pronouns and it's there's a lot of people that are kind of over that and sick of it but there's pockets of the internet where they're just feeding each other that's what we do now i only look at my ticot feed my algorithm tell me luckily for me my algorithm is all thoughts and, you know, big boobs and butts. So I kind of can stay out of that. I accidentally did that where I just ruined my algorithm. And you know who you are sending me those Instagrams.

My bro, my bro, those with all the Gouda, he's like, Gouda. No, dude, you wrecked my algorithm. It used to be mixed martial arts fighting. And now it's just Nalgas, which means butt, which means butt in Spanish. I want to talk about this, this idea, the whole left thing eating itself. I feel like that's starting to happen to the right, though. With who, do you think? A lot, just there's, there's a, there's becoming more splinters.

Yeah. Before the election, everyone seemed to be on the same page. And after the election, there seems to be more people like eating at each other. Yeah, that sounds true. I think another thing is, like the people, if you make your career out of streaming and being an internet personality, like there's a, there's a particular, like, what I do, the comedy videos the main sort of like focus my life's work it's not something that's like you can interact with it as a live audience member um the people who live on the stream all day those types of guys

it's like the drama's part and parcel of that uh career like aiden roth you have to be or kai thanat you have to be constantly like picking at somebody else in order to get views or whatever you know yeah yeah like the the whole ethan and hasan fall out and they're attacking each other and that stuff i would not want to live like that like i don't want anything to do with that shit but i think i think it's starting to happen to the right i think the rights even get to that point where they're divided on certain issues that's interesting i think is you hook up with sneko i was just in new york with him cool yeah just did a live show just did a podcast with he's also filippino he's yeah i think he's filippino and black well not he's out he's out

he can't be friends with sam can't be friends with sam right sam no i'm not i wouldn't be friends with a sneaker. He's got... Wait, don't you say the same thing? Him and Brandon, Buckingham, we're beefing and Brandon's my boy. And it's our dog. Really?

Yeah. So am I like in my bag? Yeah, you got, you're fucking out, bro, dude. Fuck. Just happens just like that, huh? No. Turn on and die, baby.

You're on the train. Holy shit, dude. Jesus. Go, this guy's crazy. Yeah. Did you know he was going to be crazy? Yeah, no, he's the real deal. Okay.

Yeah. That's, like, really him, though. Yeah. Off camera, that's him. Yeah. I like that. I like that. But he's the shit, though.

He's the man. So when you make, obviously your content, it's comedy, but how much of, like, your content is genuinely you? Um, I think he's your comedy genuinely you? I think, yeah. I mean, it's my, it's the, um, it's, uh, trying to, like, strike at this core of joy. and I believe that every day is a gift from a creator, from God,

from the Christian God. And I think there's like a, if you can peel away layers and get to it, I think there's this like core of joyful, exuberant life force somewhere down there. That you don't get, you can't get it day to day because you're waking up you got bad sleep you're have to go do

something you're just being ungrateful for whatever you got everything like there's a thousand things day to day that makes it so that this like reality is obscured uh but it's there and that's what i like to there's like a there are moments in the comedy where you're like you're just you have to cry from laughing and you said a christian god you're religious uh yeah Yeah. I think that, I think that God did manifest in human form and send his son to die for our sins. I think that that's like the story in the Old Testament where he, I think Abraham has to, he's told, he tells Abraham to go kill his son. And then he tells me he doesn't, he tells him he doesn't have to when he gets there. I think it's because God was showing us that he, he's willing to do what he's, it does not make us do for him.

makes sense yeah uh you think god came down from heaven and stop those motherfucking bullets which bullets there was no bullets sorry sorry i was doing a thing i was doing a thing you'll get the reference or you won't there's like one kid giggling right now i see you josh dude i fucking love this guy oh man i told you already what the fuck yeah you knew coming into this what is the normal like uh i don't know i'm sorry bro i'm good and educated about what's going on here I think your background is really sweet. Raw talk is a sweet-ass name for a podcast. What do you normally talk about?

Normally, I'll talk to people, interview people, and just ask them about their life and how they've accomplished, what they've learned throughout that. I guess would be kind of like the synopsis of that. And sometimes talk about random political shit here and there. I see that, yeah. Okay, okay, cool, man.

Like, what's on my mind as well, right, when I'm interested in what I'm trying to learn. You ask fighters if they think they could take you? Yeah, which is also hilarious. I did that just as like a I knew that was going to make I knew it was going to piss people out That is awesome

Rage bait It's a good time It's a good time It did well It did well Sick All right well Maine built the whole empire here

It was really sweet Thanks for having me on Yeah of course Just trying not to get canceled Are you done now? I mean am I canceled No No I'm trying

I'm so good I don't have any appointments bro I'm trying not to get canceled Oh you're not Yeah Well you have this guy on So you're fucking dancing the line He's out of guard

Everybody told me Don't even hang out with that guy. I was like, for real. I was saying Italians aren't human. Nah, I didn't say not human. You said you didn't claim me. On the scale. Yeah, we're just not calling you white.

You were drawing swast. I was talking about Italians out back. I know. I was like nine, nine, nine. Bro, what? You know what? What's that salute you do? No, I don't know.

No, no, no, don't get it. What was that thing? You were doing something like a karate chop. Listen, what was that? Your heart might go out, but mine don't. Stay right here. Bro, what was that karate chop thing you were doing? dude hey bud i don't do karate he was showing you some

jitsu i'm a master of moitai i'm a master of wrestling and uh yeah so worldwide so in the comedy like was gonna ask you about it you're trying are you trying to portray a message no just laugh yes yeah so but you're tricking jews to laughing at you or not i'm tripping jews all the time you can trip them too if you want to trip you're a tall drink of water you got to trip those juice trip them up a little bit tripping up when they're running a good idea tripping over but you know karate chop on the way you're saying that i know uh i don't know what kind of stuff you're into mayhem oh boy i'm into some weird

stuff bro if you want to go there what were we talking about just like you were saying 1488 esoteric shit oh god yeah oh you're talking about uh that's something right one one love for the one love like you know that this you got you got to you got to censor the h word just say no yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, Justin knows the belief to hit. Justin. Okay. Well, God bless you. Because I, you know, I think that we should have the open dialogue about this terrible man.

And I understand that we can't repeat, you know, the mistakes of the past. Because history doesn't repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes. It definitely repeats itself. Yeah, but Samuel, Mark Twain said that it rhymes. So, you know, I was just rolling with him since he was one of the best writers. That's fair. American of all time. But I prefer Dostoevsky, the idiot.

That's one of the best books of all times. That's a good book. I read that. Sure. I did. I swear you God. No, how long have you guys known each other?

No, Fjordor, Gostoevsky. We have a mutual acquaintance. This is you, this is you, even off camera. I asked them when you went to the bathroom. I mean, look, man, I'll tell you, I talk a little more clearly when the microphones are front of me, but beyond that, I'm just may have.

So even off camera, you just create, just let it rip. No, I mean, I mean, what do you mean? The job is to talk, right? We're talking about whatever. So I'm giving this. A lot of times I'm dead silent. One time, my dad was just sitting there like this.

I said, dad, what's wrong? Well, like, what's the matter with you? And he's like, nothing. It's the best day of my life. Holy shit. Manly, manly. That's manly. No, well, what I mean is I have two.

I have an on switch and I'll just quietly play call duty if you let me. I won't even talk to the team bank. Hey, won't even talk to my teammates, but guess what? Great teammate. I'm marking them. I'm marking them.

You're fucking entertaining. God bless you. I would hope so. I was a television professional for many years. I just took some time off for myself. Yeah. Took some time off to work on myself. How did you make money during that time, time off?

Well, do any odd jobs? Any weird jobs? It's kind of a gray area. of marijuana legality that I probably don't want to go into too much but a lot of it happened more than seven years ago I sold drugs. I wouldn't say I sold drugs but I've provided plants and services

for a lot of warehouses in Los Angeles. So basically you're a farmer. You're a farmer. I'm an excellent farmer. I have a green thumb. A mama gave you to me I love being out in the soil to be honest with you. Yeah. In Los Angeles I'm a city mouse. And I, you know, I got a little garden in my apartment, but that's it. Yeah. I did a wide variety of jobs during my time away from the UFC.

Yeah. And not all of them were, you know, some of them were legally ambiguous. But I don't feel any, none of it was morally reprehensible. What was the hardest job that was outside of the UFC? Roofing. I did roofing when I was a kid. Are you talking about before my, UFC career after the in between time after after you did roofy before though that's a hard job

when I was a kid yeah I did it I was you know what I mean I was strong enough uh even though I was skinny uh and I was deceptively strong so I could carry two 40s on my uh you know on each shoulder up a ladder you know and uh so that was that was helpful but um I carry three just for the record sick sick I believe it but uh the Italian blood I'm telling yeah yeah the other thing was but Post-career, post-fight career, you know, I got back into being a coach because that is the wholesome way to live your life where you're in the gym all the time.

Yeah. But, you know, taking guys to Eastern Europe to fight and this kind of, it's serious business. Yeah, Russia. So being, you know, a young, young coach is weird. Now I'm older. It's easier to navigate all these, like, human things.

But going from fighting to coaching was like a rocky transition, like hard to like, and plus being a little famous guy and having like the weird kind of tag alongs that happen with fame, you know, even a low level celebrity will get a lot of strange people floating around there, which, you know, God bless them. That's what I needed at that time in my life. And now I'm in a different era. So now it's business mayhem. And I have a lot of variety of,

I got my, I got my thumbs in a lot of different pies. Okay. You said Russia. So Russia or Ukraine? I mean, you're a very political guy. Listen, I'm trolling,

you know, I have two minds about everything. I'm totally you. Look, if you, you told me you're going to fight Hassan Minaj or fucking Asan Piker. Piker or whatever, man.

I can think, what is he good at? All right. Oh, you say he's big and strong. Okay, cool. But, you know, can he box? You know, what kind of jabbed is he got? You know, to me, same thing with Russia, Ukraine. I see Zelensky as coked up as he.

Do you sell him the coke? But he, I get it. He has his country. It's been there for a year. America used to prop him up. Like, they still do, I guess. I get it. I get it.

I get it. And Russia's like, yo, fuck that. Want my warm water port. I get it, I get it, run it over. I just look at it, think, to me, I cornered a four and against Rampage Jackson, and we're still best buds. I love Rampage.

Me too. He's one of the coolest people. But it's business. So, okay, I'm in this guy's cornering this one. All right. You know what I mean? I'm still lucky, bud, but this is the job. This is a job.

Let me help him get rid. But the converse is true. Later on, he hired me for his camp, and I fucking got serious. is against a good friend of mine, King Mo. It's business. Sorry, you know? Like, that's how it goes.

And same thing with the international politics. Like, who's paying your bill? You know what I mean? Who's paying you to get out there? My dad was an 82nd airborne. They sent him wherever go to Iraq and hand him a rifle and hand him a tow gun system. And you shoot over that hill and bomb them guys.

you're an American so whoever pays you more you're siding with well I'm not it's not that that's not it's a it's a confluence of factors not just relying on money but also what is my relationship with this person at this time you guys all do it you all do it you're you're not saying N word or you're not saying uh anti-semanic things because you're on youtube we all are got to show up for somebody we're all all our money comes from somewhere we got to feed our families we got to buy sweet houses with cool pools we got to do this right so you have to dance with who brung you uh youtube says don't say the h word then i ain't saying the h word because it's your podcast and that's the way it goes but i did say it earlier yeah so you're talking about like

when you say the inward like yeah yeah see to me uh you know i don't even mind that it's not shocking to me. I grew up in a pretty hood neighborhood where even the white kids said it. So that's not shock culture, but I get that the parlance of the time, the rules of society are people are sensitive about this.

But I bust the Kendrick Lamarra karaoke and guess what? Everybody was mad of me, the white girls. The black dude there was cracked up like, wow, he did it pretty good. Just like Kendra. You let it rip. I let it rip, but we're not on camera. And I get it that you know, maybe somebody will judge me

for that by singing in the car all the time old dirty bastard rest in peace my favorite oh db and he has all my god so that's where i'm at on the thing and look i'm just a humble mixed martial arts coach uh these days so to me i get it the culture is moving this way and that way and you know i just don't want to see america be wrecked in like california secede from the union or some weird I don't want to see that it's a crazy time right now and I think that you don't need to be divisive This is sorry

Thank you for that Why did you tweet a fuck day Portnoy Oh wait who's day pornoi I know this name Barstool guy Because he's just slime Is he? He makes his money off of gambling Which is like

Predatory But it's America bro Like we're allowed to gamble Most place not California but you're like allowed to gamble most ways now oh you're like a crusader for uh not social no so you said we're allowed to do but so what moral morally you think that's morally wrong to gamble i think that uh making that running gambling companies and and advertising that is um i'm not like a puritan where i want none of it but i think if that's your whole personality

it's you're just a piece of and you're you're allowed like you're you're totally fine to do this right Like I don't think I'm not like this guy should be killed I don't think anything like that I'm not saying lock him up I'm just saying he's a piece of shit oh because it gets like dumb people to give all their money yes and I don't and I'm not I'm not saying like lock him up kill him whatever I'm just saying like he is a piece of shit fuck that guy but you would put him on a train yeah that's crazy holy shit wow that's nuts again again I don't agree with your opinion but you know this is America you can have your opinion

when did you tweet that uh a week ago yeah when did i tweet that i don't know that's like shock value you know what wait fuck day but who cares day portnery's uh i mean a big he's got his big nice business right anybody anybody that would look at the if any if regular people

would like look at what this guy does for two seconds they'd say the same thing wait what does he do he's just a gang he's just like a fucking like uh but everybody that's legalized So everybody wants to make money. I feel like you're not really a capitalist, right? No, you're like, I'm not...

Hassan Piker, communism? I'm not 100% strict cap. I don't think if it's legal, it means you should do it. I don't think that's true. Oh, I know. But if it is legal, then the guy is just exploiting the law. You know, it's like the day that marijuana became legal, then, okay, now I have to be a legitimate business.

So if I'm a landlord and I run a shitty-ass factory apartment building, and I hike up and I jack up the rent prices, I have bad running water for, like, poor people trying to work. Am I a cool person? No, no, of course not. You're a fun lord, but this is capitalism. So what, though? What do you mean?

I'm just saying that person, who people do do that, are pieces of shit. Of course they are, but you want the government to step in and go, hey, man, you've got to give these guys real water. I'm not even going that far. I'm just saying the guy's a piece of shit. I'm not suggesting what we do about it. I'm just saying the guy's a fucking piece of shit. So you're just giving, like, opinion with no.

help after. If you see, if you're driving down the road and you got potholes, you sometimes, you drive. But I fucking drive all here and I got a sweet-ass car with nice rim that I'm swimming the whole time. You're a nice car, bang, bang, bang, you're hitting potholes. Do you look at those, you ever look at those potholes and go, hey, those potholes should do something. Every fucking day, I'm like, Karen Bass, fix this, or I'm going to put a damn petunia in this pothole. When was the last time you did something to help get the potholes fixed? I'm bitching right now at Karen Bass right to her face.

So somebody gets it right now. Thank God he put this microphone in front of me. So I'm bitching about Dave Portner. He's a fucking faggot. Oh, I mean, but listen. So I hear what you're saying. You tweeted that, though, when? Like a week ago.

And that was when he was going viral for all like the, I guess. Oh, he was crashing out. Yeah. I didn't even, I wasn't even looking at his crash out. I was just, I just saw his nose. And I was like, oh, fuck this guy. No, so, so my, I'm not, I'm not trying to like, uh, uh, point at you, but you did it.

He was going viral. You tweeted something with his name in it, probably likely to go viral. You're then leveraging someone who you consider an asshole or a loser or a piece of shit for your own benefit. I mean, that's what people do all the time.

Oh, man, y'all are master-based. When I was tweeting, it was a reactionary. I saw his ugly face and I just said, fuck this guy and I tweeted it. I wasn't thinking,

oh, I'm going to make a bangor tweet that makes money. He is a very ugly gentleman. right it's very bad looking he's beat what i mean look i wouldn't sleep with him but you know what i mean i got high standard he's a bad looking dude i don't i don't go a fuck out the guy looks i just find it interesting yeah that's all i just think because like you know if in that case if you that's my thing with this whole internet era of things like it's like the guy is doing something that you don't necessarily agree with which is fair right you don't have to agree with everything

someone does or says yeah and he's going viral in a moment and you also take that that moment to say fuck this guy, which adds fuel to your fire. That's my moment. So there's a thing. There's like, it's also leveraging someone's shittiness for your own. This show right here's my show. It's fine. It's your show right now.

That's why I brought you on. I'm having my moment. Go ahead. Give me my moment. What else you want? I want all of it. This moment. Give me your money.

Okay. I got money you need. I got cash. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. So I just find that that's the one thing that's like, obviously you can't say, well, no one says, well, no one discuss ideas or no one says, fuck him or not fuck him, whatever.

for sure there is definitely though that like that intrinsic value where it's like oh this will also garner me something of course so then you're leveraging someone shittiness for your own benefit which is wow what a crazy concept ma'am you should do that all that shittiness like a lever i'm cranking that all the way down i want to put him in a hole in a box oh no yeah but this guy listen in this situation you have very little power this guy has that whole internet streaming service doesn't he i want bar stool sports oh wow that's what i want to run the company that's oh wow so wait you let i keep gonna oh i get it see live long enough to become the villain wait you're already the villain so now you're gonna try to become the hero then then the villain again is that the plan 40 chess

that's some crazy shit yeah but that's that's a that's a i'm glad i came to this it's this lifestyle of just like being part of the attention economy it is yeah there's definitely fucked up parts about it yeah yeah it's a it's a weird thing because it's

it's so this is correct I don't know what's going on over there what the fuck I feel like you're a guy I feel like you've been to Thailand you've done some shit in Thailand I swear you have

I've been to Thailand yep fight circus shout out to you guys guys full metal dojo you know who you are they're a uh company that puts on some wild ass bites good time good time you've ever been to a ping pong show no no i'm not in all that but i'm pretty wholesome mayhem wholesome mayhem you know what i mean it's a it's a family show now it's a this is like they have like strippers and they shoot ping pongs out of oh that's

i mean we can crank that out i bet there's an o f girl that right now that's awesome for my dad actually not for you not not for me sound like you want to go there I wouldn't go to Thailand. You wouldn't? Why not? Dude, Thailand's so cool. Instead of you done Moitai, there's a lot of- Poitai, yeah, you know, they got the best gyms in the world.

Yeah, A.K.A. out there is incredible. It's a very developed- I'll check it out. He's a very developed culture. Have you ever been to Thailand? Mm-mm. Yeah, AKA is fucking amazing. Do you train striking? I have, yeah.

You have? You have? You like it? I love it, yeah. Okay. Yeah. What, Moitai or what? I've trained moitai, and I've trained some boxes.

You're pretty big guy. Who pads you? Pad's you? Or never done that's for you. Oh, I mean, I don't, I don't have someone specific that does it. Oh, yeah, just a different situation. You didn't really train Moitai yet. I did, I did for, I mean, you got to do some kick pads.

You got to move, you know what I mean? You got to really develop some, as a Moitai fighter, you got to do a lot of drilling. You got to do a lot of pad work because if you only hit the bag, what happens is you develop bad habits where it's, it's hard to describe without showing you. You should come hold for me, the tie pads and all that. All right, I'm 500 bucks an hour.

Really? All right, I'm down. Cool. Are you actually 500 bucks an hour? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's do it. Are you actually that good?

Yeah. Are you good at Moitai? The best, I, after my career ended, I spent five, six years with King's MMA. How many Moitai fights have you had? No, no. Moitai is zero. Because I have 50 professional mixed martial arts bouts. Back in the day when we called it NHB, I was fighting in the 90s.

so I've been fighting since you know I was 17 I fought my first fight instead of going to my prom so I was very committed that's fucking awesome I was very committed I was awesome and I did uh you know and then later on Tito Ortiz picked me up when I was like 19 20 was like come here you need to do this and I had a really great career yeah I had a really uh I you know I got to see uh wrestling at the highest levels. Dan Anderson and Randy Couture showed me Greco-Roman wrestling. Later on, I moved to Vegas and Mark Lehman showed me the best jujitsu of the time and still continues today. This type of jiu-jitsu is coming back

around. We do different stuff. Team Quest, I did sort of a lot of ground and pound there and figured out that art of ground and pound. Later on in my career near the end, I was at King's MMA, which is Anderson Silva. and, you know, Vanderlay, we sparred a lot. And I'm missing the whole section

of me and Rampage training together. And so I got a wide variety of like top level camps where I got to see how champions are made. You know, I helped them, Fabricia Verdoom, win the title of Kay Balasquez.

So I've been a part of the top level camps since I was a kid. How old are you? 45. coming on right yeah so uh you know i was part of uh like even the dark periods of mixed martial arts where wasn't on tv was illegal in both a lot of states yeah uh i was part of it i was we were fighting underground fights where it was the the sport survived even when they tried prohibition it survived what's your all-time record then uh 38 12 and one oh no i'm

37, 12, and 1. So I, you know, as you get older and you take these money fights and whatever, you're just like, ah, you know, that's just the natural ebb and flow of a fighter's career. Yeah, of course. At the end, you drop off something you shouldn't have. But, you know, even the Mona Lisa is falling apart. So, you know, the reality of the mixed martial arts is that you have a small window when you're a young man

to really take advantage of your full physical gifts and then they wear out you know then I guess you fight Jake Paul I get it if you had a son would you want him to do mixed martial arts well I would hope that he gets to live a cushy ass life

because I live the hardest fucking life you could live you know I would hope that my accomplishment says a prize fighter I'll pull you up out of that It's hard for like a little rich boy to go and do mixed martial arts and fight hard. And, you know, because it's like you got to be a special kind of sportsman. And that often happens.

Guys who will grow up in a life of privilege, you start training very young and you get a top level coach. Hell, I know some big bosses that pay me money to look after their kids. And I get them set on the right path early. And now these kids, you know, you've got a few years older. he's smashing everybody at the child level. This kid, if he doesn't burn out, same as Dagestan, while they're eating our lunch right now,

because they got a training camp for little kids all the way up. I coached the Armenian kids out here in the valley somewhere. You know, in one summer, I would take him from not knowing nothing to be little beastly guys, and the culture keeps moving on. And Armenian guys out there in the valley, they really have a good mixed martial arts culture.

It's like kind of the closest thing that we have in America, the Dagestani vibe, where you're training them hard from little kids to up. And now with UFC becoming so popular, we have that same thing being replicated all over the country. So the next wave of mixed martial artists will be the best ever. Because America does things the best ever.

And if they just learn from a little kid all the way up through high school, if they don't burn out and give up and go to college and get laid too much, then there's be some beasts coming out in 21, 22 years old. Yeah, it's happening. You think it'll be better than the Dagestanians?

Yeah, we'll catch up. Everybody forgot how to wrestle. America has the best wrestling, but we forgot that it's not just about kickboxing. Everybody got super fancy. Oh, oh, I want to kickbox. So everyone collectively forgot how to wrestle. So now we're seeing, like, guys not be able to defend the takedown

and not be able to do front headlocks and not. America used to be, especially UFC, you know, Randy Couture, Dan Henderson, this type of tough wrestler guys. You know, even Chris that broke Anderson's leg that one time, Weidman, wrestler, wrestler. You know, it comes in waves. Right now, the Agostanis figured it out. They're like, okay, get the kids from a young age,

make it a factory that kind of do karate-style kickboxing, mixed with excellent wrestling that they've done for forever, and it plays into their natural skills. You want to talk about some racism? I think that in Dagestanis are built for wrestling, and that's just how it is. That's where I say, okay, the races are a big different. You got this guy who has these attributes

that are positive for this style of fighting. you have other guys that have attributes that are positive for that style of fighting. Every individual fighter is like, you know,

has different stats depending on their makeup and whatever their coaches mold them into. So I have a big responsibility as a coach to make sure that this guy who has these skills

is matched up with this style to win his fight. And, you know, that's why I have a different opinion about things than you do. Sure. So you're just talking about like being able to make people complete fighters

but you're basing some people you think some people are just more inclined genetically to be a striker. My dad told me in a fucking headlock for 45 fucking minutes strong with no training. My dad. Yeah. No training at Christmas.

Oh no. Thanksgiving. Just help me in the headlock. Buddy, I made a lot of money holding people in a headlock until I squeeze their fucking head, like pop their head like a pimple. And that I can take,

I can take credit for going to Brazilian jihisuit coaches who show me this, but they can't take credit for a God-given gift that I had a sinewy strength and smashed the guy like a snake. My dad, like that came through him. Yeah. You know, I don't know.

Maybe my mom had a good chin. I don't know. But I got that too. So my life was, uh you know geared my fighting style was geared toward that i didn't have the greatest career but i had a really good career because i had some uh natural gifts that went along with hard ass training nice i understand his nature and nurse what about your fight career me shit i mean how many fights you got in the filipino day for oh dude i've been in a lot of a lot of

street fights you know street fight king yeah no my worst one my worst one my worst The worst one is when I was on mushrooms. I guess the last thing in the world I want to do. No, nah, not, nah. Hear him out. I was, uh, I was just walking to a bar. There was a bunch of people I knew there. But, uh, there was this one guy and he had, had his friends there.

I thought we squashed beef or something. But I was, I was tripping balls and, uh, eight, him and his eight friends jumped my ass while I was on mushrooms. And, uh, sounds terrible. Yeah, I know that shit was the worst. That shit was the worst. Like, I like, I, I shook it off. I got like a,

bruised behind my ear like a busted lip scraped up hands but I ended up like laughing after that Yeah who jumped you though Wollipop Guild Yeah

A dude dude A dude Big ass Samoan dudes Big ass black guys And they only scratch your lip And they only scratch your lip Yeah

What are you made out of titanium Get the hell out of here I don't know Eight guys jumped you Yeah I'm not even kidding dude It was all over the internet I got jumped by

Four Mexican fellows Wait this was on video Yeah dude Oh, okay, so just really happened I thought you were trolling me No, no, I'm so serious Yeah, yeah, it was awesome But that's all that happened, bro

Cool story Yeah, he's like, yeah, he's like I wanted fucking brain damage, dog Yeah, no, I wanted you to be hurt Like woke up the next day like fuck You know, don't get me wrong Like my body You went to the hospital?

Nah, I didn't Well, they didn't really jump you then Because buddy, eight people I've seen what it happened Well, I mean, those guys couldn't fight They couldn't fight But it's just being big bro they didn't they didn't stomp you out they kicked you out they're just hitting me like that

so they knocked you out no i didn't get knocked how the hell did you get away i had people with me so they like broke it off and then i had a run well man my my incident was funny because i was pretty back when i used to drink i'd be like a crazy man i was like flipping everyone off and fuck you down a bit like an empty street and these four kids rolled by i was like fuck you fuck you to every car pass by they said fuck you and i was like oh what what's up i forgot about and kept walking up the hill they parked the car and came running at me and i was like oh oh y'all what they got fist the cups huh all right let's get it on oh i punched the one guy in the head and i went ooh don't do that i was training at king's m may i was don't do that you're gonna hit

the guy on a damn uh esophagus and i know on a concrete and he'll die you're gonna bust that head i was trying at king's mima a lot i i started got into a little moitai stance tripped over a flower box. Remember, I was drinking back then. Okay. Hopped up super quick. Buddy, gave this guy a best liver bunch. Biam. And he was, oh, ho! And the next guy came, oh my God. That was like

Jackie Chan, bro. I was like, body shots, body shots. And the these kept coming, like, getting injured, and coming back in a circle, coming back in a circle like this, but until they all quit. Damn. I just body shot it. And I was like, man, you saw that? And I was like,

hey, thanks for not jumping me, guy. The girl that I was with, it's like, they were trying to jump you. You just kept punching them. And I was like, ha, ha, ha, ha. But hey, but look, all three of them came up. She's like, it was four. And I quit drinking. You've been in a lot of street fights, bar fights?

How many you think? Unofficial fights. Why? Buddy, I told you I had a severe drinking problem. So you were a fighter when you drink. listen you're angry you see how I am I'm not angry

I'm not angry right now but this is just how I am I will talk shit to everybody in the room until I have an amazing ability I can get anyone to punch me in the face I think if I punch you in the face

my hand would break yeah I know so you would drink and then just like try to fight buddy I'm just naturally a confrontational person and argumentative Fair.

And then you get a little of that in you, and then it's even funnier. Ah, ha, ha, ha. And I'm cracking up in your face. And you're going to get mad, especially if you're drinking. So everybody got liquid courage in them. Yeah.

And guess what happens? No. The guy who knows how to fight the best wins, you know? Yeah. And listen, I'm totally against this way of thinking now. Uh, particularly because,

so I, I'm excellent at this party trick of fighting, right? But the thing about this party trick is, if you use it in public, you go away to Chino for two years. Yeah. So I've adjusted my behavior as done. It's good. No more street fights. The system works.

You learn. Look at that. You just look at you. You're a reform person. America. It's amazing. It's very difficult. It's very difficult to change from this mindset of get drunk and fight everybody, you know,

but you can do it. You've done it. You're proof. Exactly. I'm living proof. Yeah. Yeah. You went on.

And, you know, and it's also some youthful exuberance, you know, I've gotten, as I've gotten a lot more responsibilities, this type of lifestyle where you're cavorting and doing whatever you want, kind of living on a great area of the law anyway, you know, if someone's challenging, you have to have this mindset, oh, okay, now I've retired from the idea of fight anybody anywhere, anytime. Why? I don't have to. I've already approved myself in the ring. I've already been a champion before. Now I'm a humble coach. Doesn't need to get all fired up on liquor and fight everybody in the bar.

What's character development? You're doing good. Character development. Yeah. I'm big into that now, actually. Yeah. My mentality is what am I doing to get better? What am I doing to make all the people around me better?

And so far, it's really working out for me. And so just for a reference, Are you actually his coach? Look, you said this today. Like I said, I'm very expensive coach, man. And the rich guys like you are subsidizing my professional fighters who oftentimes come from meager means, bad areas, guys with dreams, guys with dreams. So that's why it's so expensive.

That's why I'm going to do it too. Because you big boss guys, I'll hold the pads for you. I'll teach you how to fight really good, no problem. But you're going to have to pay me because these guys don't have money over here. and these guys need equipment. You want to sponsor them. Fantastic. Put something on his shorts.

These guys have the dreams, have the love and passion. The youth, the hunger. You know, I had that. T.R.T. saw that in me and said, dude, come out. And I said, oh, hell yeah. I went to Atlanta, packed my car,

and band up, and just jetted. After I kissed my mama in North Carolina, said, I'm going to California to make it. So, you know, yeah. So that's my. whole speech on that uh so yeah i'll hold the paths for you but you gotta have knife face on or something or brady hong i know it's a whole i'll tell you i'll get into it after we're gonna talk okay um you you went on a pod with maton how was that she went crazy he's funny yeah he's he's

he's i i was like i didn't realize how actually young he was oh yeah i think i think he was like 17 yeah that shit was crazy yeah he did say he was 17 he's told me he was 18 he's nuts yeah well he's nuts for uh being that young and like starting shit with that many people yeah he's a wild man yeah he's got great great sense in comedy for sure he's funny you got balls too yeah balls yeah balls i like balls what what his uh that guy with his bugged out his you get in there did you do a show at oh yeah i loved it okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i love down eyes did he fuck with you yeah yeah yeah bro that guy fucking ass we were doing a live stream and i didn't this is before i ever really knew human time was i was doing a live stream with like i think neon and foosy too at the time when he was

still live streaming and that guy just came into the restaurant we were in and just stared at us yeah and i was like who the fuck is this guy like like legitimately like no like like poker face to the security guy removed him and everything's the whole way walking out just like yeah bro it was that guy's funny he's funny it's they got a it's like a it's like a it's like a some weird sketch comedy shit kind of like it's got eric andre kind of box to it yeah Exactly. Yeah. So that's why I was asked you earlier about your inspirations.

Like, do you, do you try to not mimic anyone? Or is there, is there people that you like want to maybe have like a level of fame similar to? I think we wanted to kind of take the mantle from Tim and Eric at Adult Swim. But we got, we got canceled. We actually got partially canceled by Tim. Did you get that show opportunity because of YouTube years, years ago? We got the show opportunity. because we were on we were on youtube and we did some uh nick my comedy writing partner he he was in

there uh emailing them and kind of networking and stuff but it took it did take years once we established contact with them to get to the point where we were able to like you know pitch a show that they liked and then you just got and then it just got fucked after how long was it one season they that was the million dollar experiment show yeah and it just got it got just because of that that song that just because of that song that just because that song Jews rock, but Jews are pretty awesome. What was wrong? Like, why, like, I meant to ask you that when you brought it up, but like, what was wrong

with saying that? It's, uh, I mean, it's, the idea that people got watching it was that it's sarcastic, because that's what it was. They're taking you to be facetious. Yeah, I got you. But you were being facetious. We were. Ha, ha, ha.

Hey, man, you know what? Japan, L.A., my shop, it's, uh, Japan, L.A. Yeah, it sells, uh, we, you know, stop by, it's two, 30, three North Lebray up. I love this guy. You're like, hello kitty, we got that.

You know what you? Wait, do you really have a job? We got that. Yes. Absolutely. You have a store called Japan. Yeah.

Yes. Nice. It's a fantastic spot. Hey, right next to the synagogue and come by. Whoa. Holy shit. That's funny.

You might have to cut that deal. That was insane. You can try. Hey, you can try. I know the security guard. He got a pit bull. Yeah,

you'll get rid of you. I thought you would have said the crazy. shit on the spot it's been him yeah it's been you you're are you aware of that you said the craziest shit on his pod so bar a mayhem oh my that's mayhem you should have looked him up bro oh my listen you're not gonna keep that in fine my bad but i do want to get out there then two three three south of braia hey uh that's right japan l.a come by yeah yeah yeah japanlay dot com check it out we might have to we might have to sound bleep the other part which is insane yeah this is real yeah because

Because it's, it's, it's. No, I'm saying this guy. I'm just making fun of this guy for being hate crime. I get it. I get it. To me, to me, hey, never do that. Like, to me. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, go ahead. To me, I'm with them. I'm with, I stand with my Los Angeles, you know, be they orthodox Jews or Mexicans or blacks or whites. And I didn't mean to put you that far back in the group, Filipinos. You know what I mean? I'm down with everybody. I'm very, I love all y'all.

You have the as much right. And look, if you can afford to have some kids, have them. You know what I'm saying? Man, what about the homeless? Oh, yeah, we're going to chew them up and spit them out. So you get blown. We're going to make them soiling green. Yeah.

But the reality is you can fix the homeless problem, bud. You're going to have to make a bunch of big schools for them. Some of the asylum, you want to call it aside? But everyone's got to go clean up, get off all the dope. All these guys got to get up off the street. You can make an army all. homeless people, but you have to force them into some treatment into, sorry, sorry, you cannot stack up your, but my idea is, and I have, as somebody recently homeless, yeah, you heard that right.

Wait, me, I'm very successful now, but I had a bad bit where I was drinking, drugs, I was doing all kinds of crazy stuff. You were homeless. Yeah, I fell off into homelessness. I did it, and I climbed my fucking way up out of it. How long were you homeless for? A good, look, really, really one night, because I figured it out after that night. But I didn't have no place to go.

I didn't have any place. I had to figure it out. And the system gave me a leg up. They put me in a transitional house. This is years ago now. Yeah. But they put me in transit. And I had to live in a terrible condition with terrible people who were some trying to climb

their way up out of this situation. some were content to feed off the government tit and just be bumsed and that is an American that's a misfire of the American dream where you just have enough money for weed and beer and that's your fucking life no that's being a bum you know I use that level where they were on to scurry my way up to get up out of that mindset be disgusted by thinking that way and you know how did you get there how did you get there to become homeless what what happened you oh bud you know you fuck up yeah fuck up with this you know they always hear the guy get

divorced and lose half this stuff oh shit I didn't even get divorced and lost most of it because you know uh you have a business partner uh that's a woman that you date that can finagle things and you know so you got finessex you got finesse you got Phenest. Got finessed. Got fucking catfished. Like, but your girl? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Terrible disbarred lawyer. I don't even want to talk about her. To be honest, I never really spoke about it publicly.

Yeah. You know, but she doesn't deserve that attention. She's a, she's going to live in her terrible life where she flunked her bar license and, uh, flushed her bar license and is not a lawyer anymore and is now has to go, I don't know, find a new personality to be, you know, with the money is she stole. And, you know, that's fine. That's what had happened. And then the, I can't believe I'm telling all this, guys. You're like Barbara Walters, bro.

My bad, yeah. No, no, that's great. This is cathartic for me to think about it, to process that. And, you know, so I moved on from that. Behind the eight ball, right? It's hard to live that life where now you're used to. being the richest guy around living like that to be in suddenly what the fuck i don't know and it'll drive you to drink it will it will and you'll fuck your life up even worse and i did i did

got in a bar fight went to prison uh yeah so you're getting a bar fight you go to prison all right you're stuck now what do they do the same thing they do in the 1970s they give you 250 bucks and say go start a new life well in 1970 you could buy a Volkswagen beetle for 200 50 bucks then you'd be all right like start a new life maybe fucking drive out of the state 250 bucks here in fucking marriage not nowadays 2020 you know two three whenever i got out was you got out in 2023 yeah okay all right so you were recently kind of homeless okay what do you do with 250 bucks you can go get some dope or get some uh liquor and ruin your life again yeah all back into it yeah and you're right

back in the mix and that's where the homeless people come from that's where they're that's it's it's not a i've been to the homeless factory they take everything from you and make your family pay for food and clothes and you know what i mean you can't you can't you can't you can't you're a bum and it sucks and the fucking you know what i mean you got to do some weird hustles you got to fucking sell something or you know you got to do crazy hustles well like what but not what do you were insinuating some You run, yeah, you run drugs for people. Okay. You collect money for other people.

You know, and it's not money, money. It's fucking ramen noodles and this kind of. It's a terrible. You're talking about in prison now. In prison. Yeah, in prison. So your family has to give us money and to keep you floating above water, right? To keep you to live kind of civilized as you can in a terrible place.

And then, you know, they spit you out with $250. Good luck to you. You know, it's tough. Now later, like I said, I later on got connected with services for people in terrible situations. Yeah. And I was, and I met other people who were. And like I said, I climbed up out, you know, here we go a couple of years later. Business mayhem, everything's going great.

You know, I got this deal working, that deal working. And, you know, God bless. Everybody loved me again. I really feel humbled by that. But a lot of people are not very smart. and it's really hard and there's got to be some way to collect those homeless people

and turn them into something else or at least ship from the Kansas or right? I mean, we're all bummed. We're all bummed when we see the guy but it sucks when I'm at Starbucks and his dude has a bunch of stolen phones laid out and he's like just chilling in Starbucks

like he owns the fucking place. I don't stand for that. I'm looking at him like, get out of here. You know what I mean? Like you can go be a bum somewhere else but this is my Starbucks. And then he's trying to fight them? Please.

No, no, I'm kidding. No, absolutely. I used to. I actually used to. When I lived in that neighborhood, I would. I would clear everybody out of my, off my street. You can't just hang out here. No, don't set up your tent right here.

I'll kick it. I'll kick it. I'll kick your tent. And I'm sorry, I'll be militant. Sorry, but I've been in your situation. And guess what? Don't give up. Get out of it.

There's some California woke liberal society. that will give you some money to get a Section 8 house. Do it. Do it. You just got to go through it. Stop doing dope. You got to quit doing drugs. Oh, you can't? They'll send you to rehab. It's California. There are some programs for you. I did it. I went, I'm done.

I've got to quit this lifestyle. Or I'm going to be that forever. Well, you're a good example. You're one of the good example. Well, yeah, but I had the benefit of being a legendary mixed martial arts fighter, you know, where I had the discipline back when I was a kid to be, you know, a champion. I eroded my discipline with marijuana

and with alcohol and, you know what I mean? Prescription pills they gave me, you know, and they gave me and I took them. So it's my fault. Yeah. You know, you have to take accountability super hard, especially with a guy like me who has an intense focus.

Whatever I get focused on, I do it to the fullest. I get it. if it's substances I'm gonna do it to the fullest and whoops that really doesn't work out and sent your house to Chino I got a question for you Sam

kind of on this same topic but before you had YouTube success or even throughout your YouTube success or just internet success comedy etc. Did you ever have a very hard moment in your life? What was the lowest moment of your life? No I never

really went through any hard hard moments I was definitely I mean I think the the thing that defined my 20s was just the consistent um this consistent fear that it wouldn't work out and that I was wasting my time and the in comedy in comedy yeah and struggling to like figure out a way to get momentum flowing uh figure out a way to you know get the skills and the audience and all the things that are sort of synergistic and make it make it happen now and so when did you when did you first when did it start to first take form i think um probably we well so we had the our first like spark in the dark was the the adult swim show but that was the short-lived thing

we got that canceled and then um after that maybe a year or two later we started doing uh patreon and um that's when we realized we could make a living a living doing this not via mainstream do you still use that platform no we have uh we have our own yeah that's right that's right you imagine that MDE.D.TV, which is built off of a fish tank, like, tech that we did. Okay. Yeah.

So, but I have a bit like, can I ask you about this fish tank? Yeah. It's like a big brother type competition. Yeah, yeah. So the guys are,

it's girls and guys are both. It's co-ed. Are they banging in there? Um, they're some, is it very like, you know what I mean? Like give,

they give everybody alcohol on a bachelor. Is it like Love Island? Oh, oh, is it like, uh, love is blonde? I love that show. Do you want to come on, fish tank?

Fuck, don't. Sounds like you want to go on. You're kidding me? You're fucking lock me in nowhere, bro. I wish you tried. Come on. What the fuck? Why would I go on a fish tank?

Are you going to me, sit in a fucking box for six weeks? I did that. Yeah. Sucks. I'm never doing it again. You fucking can't take me alive. But you can do it with girls this time. No.

There's girls in there. There was girls last time. They just were born boys. Oh, no. Oh, no. bro so okay so the i told you all it's funny so the fish tank thing yeah it's uh it's just like a reality thing and what's the it's a dating yeah what is they's not dating yeah what is the crux i want to get

to know what that fish tank the contestants are all autistic people oh that made it man yeah except for me i'm chilling oh wait wait wait wait i was on the show i was on the first season oh well tell us about it oh yeah that shit was crazy i mean wait a sec um Um, like you mean literally autistic people. Uh, either autistic or, or severely fried and developmentally disabled? You're, uh, so you're kind of doing the barstool sports. You're taking advantage of people. Yeah.

How do you get like the okay for that? Is that like, is it not, no, they're not like retarded. I mean, they're just, they're just like, uh, internet people, like severely addicted internet people. So they're all sitting down there on their phones all time? No, they don't, their phones taken away from them. Oh, okay. Wait, so they're literally autistic.

or they're just like... Some of them are literally autistic. Some of them are just like super Weibo type people. Webu? I like them people. Japanophile. Like I said, man, JapanL.A.com. What is Japanify people?

Yeah, can you give us that? Can you promote that? Now.com. No, what is what is webo-fied? What is that? Well, weaboo is a person that's super into Japanese stuff. It's like a subset of internet culture like... Like anime and shit like that, yeah.

So our show, if you could look it up I mean, Justin, you pull stuff up up on that screen? Yeah. Just pull up the trailer for season, season four. This is interesting to me. Yeah. And so what was the idea behind this? You're like, this shit will just be funny?

Yeah, I mean, it's a big brother type thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let me see this. Okay, obviously not Planet Fitness. Skip that shitty ad. Zoo culture's way better. Okay, so why are they blurred out? So it's suspense so that,

when you start watching the show you don't see him until you start the show okay my wall models are one or so because of his dedication solid snake because of how he respects people the fish tank is a fully automated smart house fully monitored fully monitored I'm so autistic on my birthright trip to Israel they put me in the special needs group eight contestants It's like a little bit of crack. It happens. It really does happen. Six weeks. What?

Here's what you're going to realize about season four. I'm the protagonist. No privacy. I pulled my . Is that you? No. That's some... Yeah, I don't know.

No bones. Because I keep, like, sensing the odds of the people. We heard what you said. We know when you go to the back. when you go to the bat. And one winner is going to walk away with $8,000. Welcome back to fish egg. How do you win?

Last man standing. So there's challenges. There's challenges, yeah. And the whole season is a challenge. It's like not psychological torture, but you don't want to be there. Are you like egging people on in the? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Okay.

Yeah. and so they're challenged of physical challenges or they're there's physical there's mental there's like how many cigarettes can you smoke in an hour that type of thing yeah and this is you film how long did it take to film it's a six week show and it's all live

so it's not it's not and then they we oh it's live yeah we chop it up after and release a season but it's it's a live show oh shit yeah 24 7 just and where is this where is this Massachusetts okay that's where you're from I'm from Rhode Island which is right next to it

Okay, there, Connecticut. Hey, man, I just thought of something. Okay. 13 bodies have been found in that area. What area? Are you the serial killer? 13 bodies found in what area? In that area where he's from, bro.

13 different bodies. There's a serial killer up there. Like currently. Yeah. Breaking news. Currently. Currently. Currently, it's going ongoing.

The investigation is still ongoing. And it looks like it's the same person killing people. Yep. 56-year-old lady. They just found a 20. I got to see that 21 year old girl That was yeah

I do the I do the news on the Adam Carolla show So I report on these type of things And so I recently looked at Go ahead and look up Serial killer Just serial killer

New England and It'll get up there What the fuck? It happened yeah This is late breaking news Lately that that happened New England serial killer fears Still holy shit

Yeah so it's ongoing The Adriana Susa is 21 years old all in the same area. Yep. And kind of spread out over a few states, but like right there in New England. It's very interesting.

It does happen and somebody's got to catch them. Yeah, especially in 2025. Right. I think there'd be enough. Well, they say the majority of serial killers are truck drivers because it covers so much ground. But this guy must be an Amazon delivery or something because he's zigzagging all over.

That's your theory. I don't know. He's an Amazon guy. I'm not that big on true crime. But this came across my desk, I said, oh, damn, this is very, you know, because like you said, and a day with a proliferation of cameras everywhere, DNA technology, this guy has not been, hasn't fucked up once. How long has it been?

Do you know that? Yeah. Well, the first bodies were found a couple years ago. Holy shit. So it's been ongoing. This guy's getting away. What the fuck? Yeah.

Are there any other currents in the area, not in the area, but in the United States? For the show, I researched it a little bit more that serial killers is on the wane because it's like something that happened to 70s, 80s, Richard Ramirez and this type of thing. Nowadays, all the technology cops will put it together. The thing is that usually serial killers pick off the weakest members of society, you know,

prostitutes or people, homeless girls. they do that to them homeless women so dirt bags that they are they take advantage of people who are weak and uh and yeah and that's why you know nobody's reporting them missing immediately yeah it's not a big so he has time to sort of get away it seems like uh yeah i mean like i said in the 70s and 80s that's where you hear about ted bundy yeah that's why you hear there was not there was not the connection between law enforcement i'm just shy that they're getting away with it yeah that he's got you know they'll figure him out they'll figure him he'll get he'll slip up and they'll they'll catch him i watched a lot of uh 20 20 did did you did you

see why like is there some sort of similar similarity between yeah no i look i try to look into it research for the story but this is new like this just hit the news where they're like oh this is happening so the cop's not going to release They have their investigation going on. They're not going to release a lot to the media at this stage until they got some kind of thing where, oh, look out for this or, you know, there's something connecting all these things, you know,

might be they'll release it once, once they need the public's help. Right now they're trying to put it together, I bet. You've been traveling a lot lately? I have, yeah. I do a lot of commentary around the country for mixed martial arts events, different experimental fights stuff in the northeast yeah yeah actually i was just up there uh i was hanging out with this girl she's you know it was a black girl remember was it a black girl listen you didn't don't say it in front of him but sorry yeah i did it this guy's my ride

home so don't piss them off right listen i'm not into black girls i never have been okay come on i'm not happily i i in a relationship you guys back off right? But I don't know if she qualifies as white. Dude. I'm just, come on, Sam.

You got to admit, it's kind of funny, especially since you got a Filipino boy with you everywhere you go. Dude, if you were traveling the country, I'm just kidding. Oh my God.

Now he's not being shot comic for you. Shot comic. The jig is a rage mate, bro. I'm kidding. All right. All right. Holy shit.

That's not you. That's not. You're not. a hateful guy no no just cut that part out yeah we'll cut that okay we're not cut shit out sorry you got to own what you say you're a professional comedian the only person you hate is it sounds like it sounds like you hate that guy what else you what else you want to hit me i'm good i'm good yeah unless is anything you specifically want to talk about um no we got this we got this show at uh 6 630 that we got to go hit up um okay you're welcome to come if you want

we're premiering tonight two times and then tomorrow two times we're at uh jam in the van culver city Yeah, shoot me the, shoot me the detail. I'll put you on the guest list just in case you want to go. Okay. Well, brother, I appreciate you coming on. Yeah, for sure, man. Thank you for your time. Mayhem Miller.

God bless you, man. Thank you for having me on. Look him up. Damiel Bernaldo. What's your socials, Damon? It's Daniel Bernaldo on Twitter and Instagram. Okay. And brother, you're cool guy, man.

Thank you, man. And thanks for having us on, bro. Thank you so much, boys. Thanks, bud. Thanks, man. Thanks, I appreciate you, brother. All right. Boom.