RAWTALK - Sara Saffari on Dating Bradley Martyn, Hitting 1,000,000 Followers in 1 Year & Losing Her Father

Episode Date: April 4, 2023

Join us with Sara Saffari, a 22 year old successful content creator who managed to create over 1 million followers in under a year. We address the rumors between bradley martyn and sara saffari’s love life, and how she lost her father at 5 years old. SPONSORS: https://greenchef.com/rawtalk60use code: RAWTALK60 for 60% off your next orderSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

being at it already had my tarot red things are looking up for me that's what my tarot said been pumping out pheromones and wearing red young jerry lollivert king but they're not aware of anyways um this is an important podcast this is a huge actually this is a huge podcast because people wouldn't understand they've probably seen bull-ad banter they've seen some stuff of us on the internet um they've probably seen you on the internet if not they're seeing you now but um this is a huge thing we know it to be a big thing I think this is a big thing but you waited for me to hit like a million on Instagram to ask me to come on your pod no it's not about that like you were like oh now she has like a little bit of like following okay we can bring her on we've been talking about do it for time but it is actually like the timing of this now is actually for sure interesting and I heard you on your I think I was watching your Snapchat which I love Snapchat by the way I love Snapchat the best shit ever Snapchat you guys are the best We love Snapchat on the planet. Snapchat is the best.

So anyways, we have a- It's life-changing, one could say. It is life-changing. Snapchat. Thank you so much. We love you. You get their best app on the planet. I put Brad on.

You did. You did. It's amazing. But we're going to talk about putting people on in a second. Because this is interesting. So you were saying that did you, so it's been a year since you been on social media. Dude, I literally, it popped up in my memories. I signed to Roggear end of last March.

So I've been with Roggear for literally a little bit of. over a year. Okay. So it so it has been literally just over a year that you've been on social media. Yeah. So this is crazy. Uh, because you just hit a million on Instagram. You started kind of blowing up on on YouTube now recently. Thanks to the clips. Shout out best of Bradley Marge. Um, yeah, that's the best clip channel in the game. It is. He's really good. He's great. He's good. Uh, it's pretty much best of Sarah at this point. But, uh, it's okay. It's good because it's helping. It's dope. Anyways, I don't care. But the thing that's interesting about this is, I found you like a year and a half, basically a year and a couple months ago. And you had, you must have had 1,300 followers. It was like my homies from high school. You know, like it was, it was a thousand followers. And I think I, I don't know if I posted something or you were like, you want, you might have slid in my DMs and said like, let's work out or like you respond. What was the? What was the? We got to give the backstory about how we met. The backstory. Okay. So, um, I remember you post. Um, I remember you post. So, um, I remember you post. Oh,

did something like oh I wanted like a gym date or something it was something along the lines of like you were sad another like another couple was working out or whatever and I was like here's my application to work out with you and I sent like pictures of me working out whatever and then you were like yeah and honestly I like all of my homies would talk about zoo culture and I wanted to go so bad but at the time I was working like a minimum wage job yeah and for me to pay $60 for a day pass was like well wasn't 60 back then oh well whatever it was I was like and I'm cheap I was like yo I have to work four hours for this to like even out like maybe if I just DM him he'll let me pull up yeah so she DMs me I find her DM randomly because I get

so many I probably found your DM because I literally get DM by a hundred percent only dudes yeah so I was like oh one chick I clicked on I was shitting myself when it said Bradley Martin replied I was like what the fuck yeah and I was and I was basically like yeah come work out yeah right Yeah, you're like, pull up. You come work out again. And I, because I remember looking at your profile. And I'm like, right away, I was like, oh, this chick's in actually like really good shape. Number one.

Because I saw a picture of you in, you had like a floaty on. And then you were like in the water. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then I was like, whoa, she got really good abs. I was like, she's in shape. Yeah.

So I saw. And then I looked at like a few of like your highlight things. And this is just me being like a social media weirdo. And I'm like looking at this. And I'm like, looking at this. I'm like clicking it. I'm like, damn, she's like, these like pull up. She's like actually get it working out.

She's actually in shape. And then I'm looking at it. I'm thinking like, before you ever showed up. Yeah. I was like, I wonder why this chick doesn't do more social media stuff in the fitness space because like she could be like one of those girls that's in shape. And you were already in shape, obviously. But I remember thinking like this whole, you know, I guess I call her muscle mommy's now.

I don't know what the fucking word is now. Thank you, Brad. That's the nicest thing you've said to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But these girls. Girls are becoming way more trendy. So I'm looking at it and I'm like, she could totally do this. I swear to God, before you ever showed up.

So then you show up and I start talking to you and I'm like, wow. And I'm going to make you feel I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to blow it. Her head is massive right now. She just had a million followers on Instagram, but and I started talking to. I'm like, wow, she has a really good personality. And that's when I was like, this shit could blow the fuck up. And I knew it. Like I swear before you literally had like 1300 followers.

I was like, she can blow up my social media easy. after I spent that like workout time with you because I was like your personality was so like natural thank you and so I'm proud of you I just want to say before we get into the rest of this I'm really proud of you thank you no it that conversation did literally probably change my life because I remember you were like Sarah like who do you expect to see your fitness content if you're just posting it on your story like that won't reach people and I was like oh I guess he has a point so I went home literally that night made a reel of me doing pull-ups and it did like good I think it like hit explore they got more reach than just you

just my following and I was like, oh, this is kind of easy. Maybe I should do more of these. Yeah. Why didn't you post more? Like what? Because I remember I asked you and you were like, no, I want to go to school. I want to like, you know, I want to graduate. I'm like, you're like, I don't want to.

Because I remember your initial response when I first brought up was like, I don't really want to do the social media stuff. Like straight up. Yeah. Like where, what was that about? Because now it's like a million followers. You got like hundreds of thousands on YouTube. You're on TikTok.

You're everywhere. And you have a whole living now. I just want to give like. Preface before they get into the rest of the conversation, but like now you make good money doing all this in a year's time. Yeah, it was definitely life changing, but yeah. Why did you not want to do it before? At first, I was honestly scared. I was scared of post. Like I was like, you know, if I posted on my highlights, it'll disappear in 24 out, 25, 25 hours. That's all that people will see. They can't like keep judging me for it. They can only judge me for it for 24 hours. You just worry about judgment. Yeah, that's what I was scared of. I was like, especially because my following at the time, There's only kids I went to high school with. I see them all the time at the local gym, whatever it may be. Like, I was scared that it was, like, cringy or whatever it may be. Yeah.

So I'd just throw a few up on the, like, Instagram story and then call it a day. So you were just concerned that, like, fucking Timmy from fucking whatever class was going to be like, you're stupid. Yeah. Why? But, like, why did you care about that? I don't know. And usually I don't care what people think. Yeah.

But I was thinking if I post on my actual feet. It's just going to occupy their timeline with bullshit and they're going to unfollow me. So you cared about them unfollowing you or just like? I was like, if anything, I'll lose followers from posting fitness content. Dude, it's crazy. It's crazy because this is really the opposite though. Yeah. So now that you've done it over all this time, what did you like, do you still have the same

relationship to? Because obviously people talk shit about you now and you know that. Yeah. You know, but you also like get a lot of love. So do you, does it change your perception on like why you like, would, you go back and like do it all over again or would you not do it again would you like do it differently honestly i wouldn't do anything differently i think the way i went about it thanks to your help i think if i would have done it alone like with because you did guide me whether it was

like telling me do it like this or like reels are really good on instagram or you need to make it this way make the first half second super enticing so they watch the whole video whatever it may be that you've told me like i needed to know that because i didn't have any friends that were doing social media. I didn't have anything like that, but there are keys to social media. Like, it's not as easy as just throwing up a picture and calling it a day. Yeah. You have to be strategic about it. There's logic behind it. Yeah. I think so. It's not complicated, like, strategies or logic, but it's things you need to know. For sure. I mean, that's, that's, that's, it is, it's the thing about social media. And we'll talk about this, too, is like, I think people

have this perception that it's just easy. You just post pictures. It's not, yeah. I'm not, I mean, it's not like rocket science, but it's also not like, that simple either. Yeah, but it does require a lot of consistency. I think consistency is the most important thing like because for example, I've done social media now for like in a million years. I'm like, because I'm like a hundred years old. But yeah, I've literally been on Instagram for damn near 12 years. And Instagram is kind of platform that I know specifically and all these platforms now that if you're not constantly posting content like you're literally not growing. It's not going to favor you. Yeah. It's to give you zero. Like it's like every week you're not posting. It's like,

Like, you're, you're getting less and less reach of what you could get. And once you're getting that high reach, you need to ride the wave. Yeah. Like this past like few weeks for me has been really good, really good. Shout out best of Bradley Martin on the Instagram. No, on Instagram, fuck you. But on Instagram, it's been really good. So I've been just trying to ride the wave.

Like I woke up this morning at 9 and the first thing I did was post a picture. Yeah, I saw it. You don't like my pictures. We have beef. Wait, what? I do like your shit. Don't even cap. You don't like my shit.

Ever, you might once in a while if it's like, yo, Rogger dropped live in three hours. You might be like, like, yeah. Well, when you're wearing a stupid-ass gym shark thing, I'm not liking it. Okay. Let's be honest. I'm going to be honest about it. Just kidding. I can't.

I don't want to disrespect. No, I know. But okay, even my lifestyle pictures. Sometimes I take pictures when I'm not wearing gym sharks or Rogg. I just look ugly. I'm just like, I can't like this. Like, if I liked it, I'd like it. Damn.

I'm sorry. If you liked it, you'd like it. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm sorry. I'm not. I'm totally kidding. Your content's great, honestly. Well, yeah, what do you like about it?

Do you remember you'd always ask people? People would come up to me. They're like, Sarah, I love your content. And Brad would be like, what do you like about it exactly? Like, what's good about her content? Well, because the guys, I always knew it was like, sim dudes. He'd be like, I love your content.

They're not simps. Okay. They're not sims. They're good supporters. Yes, I have value to offer. I just thought it was funny to ask them, like, when they come up to you and they're all excited because you had kind of been, you were just popping for like four months. Yeah.

And they come up to you at the gym and they're like, oh my God, I love your content. I was like, really, what do you like about it? You don't think that's funny, though? It is funny. I mean, they do like you. You do have a good personality. I mean, that's the thing that I said before you even started going, I was like, you have a good personality.

Like, you're not just like a fucking, I want to say you're not an attractive girl because you are an attractive girl. That's what you always tell ugly girls. You have a good personality at least. You are attracted, but you're not, that's not it. Like a lot of girls, I don't know, it just seems like, it's, it's, you know, it just seems like in this space specifically they're just like I'm hot look at me look at my body it's like one or the other yeah they love to and you're show it off yeah and you're very not that like

well I try not to sexualize my content because you know what happens when you start sexualizing your content then your other content won't get engagement and then they'll only want to see the sexualized content whether that's you in a bikini or whatever and then you post a picture of you in a nice like two piece long sleeve long pants and they're like where's the ass you Like not liking that. Exactly. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying it's strategic in that way.

It's like once you start showing more, then they want more and more. So why do you think, why do you think, I mean, the answer is probably simple to this, but why do you think women mostly go towards just posting the sexualized content? I think in some sense it's like validating. And it gets more like or whatever that is, which can translate to validating. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's that, but it's just like in the long term, like you know you're a mom and then your kids are all sitting at the lunch table and they're like

yo like my mom said your mom has an only fans or like had an only fans like what are you your kid hears that so you're concerned with the future that's why you're like no not even just the future I just feel like it's not necessarily me yeah even sometimes when I'm like turned around and like I like pull my pants down a little bit and I like spandex on under and I post a picture of that even that I'm like fuck like this is pushing it yeah because I notice you never do like the full turn no yeah I noticed that. And, like, my spandex have to be pulled. Like, you can't have a little butt cheek slip, you know?

You got to be covered. Yeah. So, like, that's what I'm curious about. You're, you're making these decisions because of, like, your idea of what you want your brand to be or like. Yes. I think it's just who I, that's, if I was posting that and like, yo, these girls look so hot posting it. I'm just saying that's not on par with who I am. Like, I'm just not a very, like, and you know this.

I'm just not a very, like, sexual person. I'm just kind of, like, prude, I get. And not prude, prude. Yeah, maybe it's, you're just, you're more conservative with, yeah, with, you know, with it with yourself. Yeah. What does that come from? Because I'm, because like you, you are, you are not, I don't want to say odd that it's odd. I think it's great.

But you are odd in that sense because there's, you know, I know a lot more women on social media and in man on social media that like they just put it out there. And they're just like, this is what it is and they don't care. You seem to like have a little bit more reservation to it. Is it just like the way you grew up or? Yeah, I just feel like I grew up very like. also like not conservative in like the political sense but like you know like you don't need to show it for someone to like you yeah if that makes i mean i'm not shitting on the people that do it like that's totally fine like i see these girls or guys or whatever and i'm like oh my god you're

totally beautiful or you're so hot like like like the picture it's not like i'm not trying to shit on the people that do do it i'm just saying it's not me yeah why though i think it is how i grew up like even um even growing up like 10 years ago like in high in middle school or high school and i'd wear like a shirt that was a little too short my mom would be like i don't think that's age appropriate i'd be like okay like i see where you're coming from you know like just like anything i was kind of pointed in a different direction with like what i'd wear like you know how i'd wear it or whatever but not in the sense that it was ever like too much pushing but just kind of like guidance i guess yeah i just find it interesting because i think i just i just

I don't know. I've had conversations with girls and the same, the same idea of like being a little bit more reserved, but because other girls do it, like are just completely okay with like flaunting it to the highest degree. And it is what it is. If they want to do it fine. But like, I think because other girls do it and they get the validation, they get the likes, they get the followers, they get the growth, that other girls go, well, other girls do it. So I'm going to do it. And it's totally tempting. I'm not going to lie. Like I've, sure, I've like thought about it. I've had conversations. conversations with people that have OF and they're like I make X amount and I'm like wow it'd be so nice to make X amount for posting pictures I don't know I just at the end of the day it's just it whatever 200 K 300 K a month wouldn't be worth it for me to like have the stigma of my homies or whatever being like you know she has an only fans sure I wouldn't post nude or maybe it'd just be like gym picks or swimsuit pictures but it's that whole stigma around like having an OF yeah that why don't you why do you what about the stigma that you don't like I think usually people correlate the stigma with something worse than like what it could be yeah come on like if you hear a girl has an o f what's your first thought well depending on what she posts yeah i mean thinking she's probably you know she's selling something yeah i don't but then again there's it is just a paywall and that's the thing about only fans it's interesting is like it did for so long become pretty much like softcore to hardcore porn and amateur porn basically and then now they're trying to come back to like, hey, I think I know that they've tried to put a push to all content creators.

So it was just like, it really is just a paywall. But you're right. The perception and the reason why it does so well for girls and for people is because right away people think if they have an only fan, then at some point, if it's a girl, they're going to show their pussy. Or if it's a guy, they're going to show their dick. Yeah. And it's like, I mean, if you have a following as it is and you can be successful on something

like a paywall platform at that point, you can make something where it's like I'm selling clothes or I'm selling this or I'm selling that. So it's like, yes, they're supporting you. They're paying you, basically. But they're getting something in return, like a physical, not just looking at your pictures. I don't know. I see what you're saying. Like, you know, they get a shirt.

They spend 40 bucks and they get a shirt. This is the same reason why I never did those platforms where it was like, which also I think is kind of crazy if like you built your following from social media. The platforms where they're like pay to say hi to someone or like pay to say like they would pay you and then you'd be like, happy birthday or like pay you. and then you say something. I don't know. I don't want to say the exact apps. No, I know what you mean. But the same thing I was like, yeah, the same thing.

Because I got offered to do stuff like that all the time. I'm like, damn, it's crazy. Like if I'm going to talk to someone like on a DM or respond to a message or say a voicemail, like a voice note or whatever, I'm just going to say, I have so much other stuff from this. And I'm just grateful. But to go to someone and say, pay me $100 to like do this. I think what do we see Emma Chamberlain? I don't know if this is true or not. I love Emma Chamberlain.

Do you? Does she get this? She, I don't know if this is true. or not someone confirmed this jacob can you look at your computer right now but she uh she sold a dm like i'll dm you like like a like a like a high message for 10 000 i don't know if this is true or not for 10 000 no way yeah i don't know if it's true no that can't be true i think it was on keemstar posing this shit really yeah like he i don't know i mean i'm assuming it wasn't just like parody yeah but it was on some app where it's like you could pay for like anything

But I'm saying at that point, also like, you know, do a Twitch. I'm, I want to get into this. I'm going to get into Twitch or streaming or whatever. You should do kick. It was fake. Okay. Amma Chamberlain thing was fake. Okay.

Amma Chamberlain thing was fake because, bro. People had a website. Clean with a $10,000. Yeah. I found it based on website years ago for internal testing purpose of mode. Or maybe that was just a cop-out. That sounds like a cover-up. That sounds like a huge cover-up.

That sounds like a huge cover-up. Yo, you need a mic back there. Fuck, we can hear him. So Jacob was saying that like, we're joking about the thing. Keemstar posted $10,000 for like a DM from Emmer Chamberlain. He's saying that it was never supposed to be posted and was for like an internal testing, which totally sounds like a cover up.

Internal testing sounds like, come on. Yeah. Anyways, whatever. I don't know. But all I'm saying is like that concept of selling like a thank you or a high is like weird. But I see what you're saying because they're not actually getting something. Yeah. Like I mean on Twitch, I mean, you've done it.

People donate money, right? Or send you money. But then you're like talking to it's a more like, it's a fucking, you're there for Community. Yeah. It's dope. Like I feel like they're like, oh, I really fuck with this person. I want to send them 10, 20, 30, whatever it may be. I don't know how it works. But I'm saying they're seeing your true side rather than looking at a picture that maybe 10,000 other people are looking at. And then yeah. And also I mean, dude, it's just an interesting concept. I don't want to ruin it for people, but it's like it can literally just be someone else sending you the photo. It's the same photo that's sent to everyone else. Like you may loki be talking to a guy. Yeah. Like why do you think some people on. social media are just like complete terrible like life-sucking scumbags and other people are like actually decent people I think some because people fall into this shit I I agree I think it's maybe material like being very materialistic so you want more money or whatever it may be and you don't really care and then when the taxes hit you go wait a sec you're like I didn't have as much money

that much money let me fuck someone over I didn't know I was gonna have to pay this money oh my and then they're like wait a sec shit taxes are a lot Or whatever the circumstance, that's a good example. Yeah. Whatever the circumstance may be, I think people become shitty, whether it's for money or clout or whatever it may be to put them higher on the ladder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. To gain. To gain. To take from someone else to give to themselves. Yeah. I mean, that's a very common thing. Specifically, specifically this industry, man. This industry is like full of.

I think it's because it's so competitive. I think it's because not because it's competitive, but because. there's no real barriers to entry. Yeah. This, and I'm talking about social media. I'm talking about specifically fitness. Fitness. Yeah.

Because fitness social media, you can like, pay, you could just basically take some steroids, be in halfway decent shape and be like, I'm a social media influencer fitness now. Because like, look at me and take some pictures.

And like, you know, it does well on the internet because it's like body. It's visual. Someone sees it. And then people get to a point where they're like, wait, what else do I do?

And then they're like, oh, I can just shit on all these other people and benefit myself. I could shit on that person's brand and benefit my brand. So the thing that I find interesting is like there's some people over all these years who really had like great success. And they were never really the people who did those things. My question to you is how do you see yourself continuing to move like in this industry? And like what's your end goal?

Because you're like a, you're like one of the good ones. I know all of them. I know all. I really know all of them. Or at least like maybe they've known me and they've shit on me. But I know all of them. I heard of all of them. You're a good one.

So, like, where do you go with this? You're going to start shitting on people next year? What's going on? No, I don't think I have the balls to shit on people. Why not? Because then I say something, and then what if they come back twice as hard, and then I'm just quiet, and then I'm embarrassed. And then I just feel like it's better for me to just not shit on people and just be quiet

because then I'm scared of the repercussions. Yeah. But also, I don't think that's on brand with who I am. I don't think I'd shit on people to try to. How do you create what your brand is? I think it has to do with your, like, your morals and what you see valuable. So where are you going with this? Because you're still super young.

You're still in school. I'm getting my master's in business. I hope that this was always my mindset was that, you know, I'm going to do school, get my, like, highest, like, degree I can. And hopefully along the ways I get lucky. And in this case, I think I did with you responding to my DM, got lucky. um so now i want to get my master's still do social media in the meantime i should get my master's in about like eight months i'll be done yeah so then i'm hoping that i make connections along the way with social media and i do someone's like back end work you got a job

because then i'll have i can say i've experienced like on the forefront like doing the actual posting and social media the logistics behind it and the strategies but then i'll also have like a master's in business, which is a good degree. Like, it's not the best, but like it's good. Okay, two options. I'm the Matrix right now. Right of Boo pill. Oh,

I'm going to Bradley Martin you again. Okay. I would love to hire you. I think you'd be a great employee. You're already a great employee. Thank you. Yeah. But like, like I,

when I Bradley Martined you a year and a half, a little bit ago, I was also like, hey, you could probably do so much more than school. Not than school. No, with what you're doing. Yeah. Like, meaning getting a master's in the business, you've already kind of mastered and understood social media, right? You have the consistency in it. So I guess my question to you is, why would you, I would love for you to work for me.

That's great. But why would you want to do that when you could continue building something of your own? Like, it's great. I could be like a selfish like, yeah, come work for me. But just like when I first met you, it's like, why are you not doing more? Because you have what it takes to do it. You've already proven that to yourself in all these. the fact that you've gone all the way through school, the fact that you've been able to accomplish

this on on Instagram and on social media without being like, here's my asshole in every photo. It's fine. And it's fine. But it's just like you haven't done that. So you've mastered both these things pretty well, pretty quickly. Why would you not just kind of like continue to build out things for yourself? I would. That's what I'm going to do in the meantime of me finishing my master's and see how that goes. Because someone, Like you who's created like a brand or whatever is great and you have longevity in the industry, but if you're just a content creator on social media, there is not much longevity. Yeah. Like for how long are you going to be posting fitness content? You know what I mean? I did it for fucking. Yes, but you also have a brand. You have gyms. Yeah, but I just did. I just made it. I just made them. I just was like, hey, I'm doing this. And I did it. And I worried if it was going to work or not. I was fearful about failing and I just did it. It's not like, no. No one was like, hey, yo, bro, here's the fucking blueprint. This is what you're going to do at this day.

Yeah, like, here's the gym. Here's the keys. I just did it. And I fucking was risking shit. And I was like, dude, if I fail, this is going to suck. But I'm here just because I did it. So that's my question to you is like, you've already. I'm not that ballsy.

I'm not. Really? I'm so like, I'm not that ballsy. It's so interesting. Even when it comes to like, I want to invest my money and I'm like, I can't. That's too risky. I'm like, better in savings. This is something you got to improve on.

That's just like how I am. Oh, man. There's so much we could talk about with that. Like your money and savings right now is just like, it's like really going down. Like if it's like a, if it's like a hundred thousand dollars, it's not worth that. We're just being honest. Money's only good at motion, this kind of money. Not that like you need to just throw it all away, but there are things you got to invest in.

Well, I want to like, maybe and yeah, in the next year. Dude, that's huge. I'm hoping. But I also don't have many expenses. I live at home right now. Yeah. I don't buy any of my gym clothes. Thank you, Rogge.

Oh, yeah. I, the only thing I spend my money on is gas and food, but I don't have many expenses. Like, I'm so fortunate to live with my mom and she pays my- So what do with your money? Phone bill. I save it in the bank. You got to, you got to, you got to get more interesting with your investments, for sure.

Because that money is, like, I do. If you're saving it for like the big nut of like, okay, I'm going to buy, I'm going to get a mortgage and get a house, perfect. But after that, you're like, you don't want, money to just sit there. I know, but I'm just not, like, I'm not balzy and I'm not educated enough to invest it. I'll help you. Do you have Robin Hood? Yeah, but Robin Hood is not that, not the app. Oh, I heard that's the starter one. No, it's the one that sucks because like if you buy on it, then like they actually own your assets and you have to like sell and buy through

them. It's kind of shitty. It's a weird thing. Yeah, it's a weird thing. Okay. You'd want to buy it on like a different platform if you're talking about like investing in stocks or crypto. I'm not, I'm not trying to make this a shit on Robin Hood thing. No. I, I, because I, I, I, I, started on Robin Hood but I was like you you don't actually own it and then you grow up a little bit then you yeah then you realize like wait a sec I can't actually transfer the shit the way I want to yeah anyways no way that's a stupid so big picture though back to what I was saying if you've gotten so good at those things you've mastered those things the social media like fucking seemingly life in general and how you want to move then why would you not like take more risks in in

directions that you want to go in like if you would go like say work for me and a company why not be like, oh, I'll also think about maybe building my own. Because aren't you doing something like that? I am. I'm trying to do my own clothing. We'll see how it goes. I really love the shirts. Yeah. I think you love the shirts too.

No, they're great. But why do you think, why do you like, I don't know. It's so weird. But it's risky and it's a lot. Yeah, but it's a lot. Well, hold on. That's what I'm saying. So is doing what you've already done, the social media.

You've proven you can do it. The school, you've proven you can do it. Like, you're not the kind of person. Yeah, risks are risk. But you're the kind of person that, like, you just, you perform because you, like, you're just that human. Yeah. You just do it. Like, I'm telling you, the number one thing I noticed about why you have success on social media,

it's not just your personality, not just your looks, but it's because you're so fucking consistent. And that's the, that's the most important thing in all of this in success. I make it a checklist. Literally, every day I have the minimum thing. It's like YouTube shorts. I have to post three of them. Two or three at YouTube shorts a day. I have to post 120 snaps a day.

I have to post up an Instagram picture. at least every other day, depending if I have the content or not, 9 a.m. But I try to like make it a chucklist. And then for me, when I do it like that, it becomes routine. But this is what I'm saying that finds so interesting is like, that's how you succeed at anything. Yeah. Like if you were like, I want to learn how to be better at investing, you just go like the same concept and just included in what you're doing. I know.

And if you want to be better at what you want to build a business, it's just the same thing. You just learn things over time. That is all it takes. You're right. So that's why I'm so curious. Like, why does your mind go work for. someone else. For me, I've always been the type that it's like, I want to do the bare minimum, but as best as I can to get by. But also be successful. Like in school, I, I graduated with my

bachelor's with summa cum laude honors, which is like the highest honors you can get. I had a 3.95 GPA. Okay, thank you. But anyways, what I'm saying is I got A's in all my classes, but with minimum effort, like whether it was, you know, using Quizlet or whether it was What the fuck is Quizlet? That's a cheater thing. Did you hear this man? What the fuck is quizlet? I'm fucking 33.

I'm about to be 34 years old. You guys know what Quizlet is, right? Schools for fucking losers, man. Quizlet? Yeah, we didn't have that. When I was going to school, it was like fucking read this book. They'll know what Quizlet is. Yeah, because they're fucking 23.

No, the audience. Yeah, it's like you're a cheater. Okay, let's not. I cheated the old fashion way. I looked at people next to me. I sat. I knew, you know what? Matter of fact, this makes sense.

Motherfuckers back in the day. day they had to be more resourceful because they had to figure out who the smart kid was then it had to be like yo it's good bro and then they had to sit next to and be like got you see you just like the quiz lit i'm gonna go pee real quick and then we're gonna talk more about this this is very important topic okay all right guys shout out to one of our sponsors green chef now check this out if you're like me and you do not like going to the grocery store and picking the things you're like oh okay i need this i need this i need this to cook this meal green chef has got your back super simple tons of variety very very convenient all you have to do is literally like pick

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this podcast. Okay, so chat GPT. What the fuck was, what was that? You know, Snapchat. You're literally, okay. She's literally Snapchat in the pot. Okay. Um, which I probably should be doing because Snapchat is the best fucking app on the planet. Anyways, um, I love that. I seriously. I know we talked about it earlier. I'm gonna say it again. Snapchat, you're the best. It's great. Everyone download Snapchat right now. This is 100%, uh, not really sponsored, not an ad, just true. It's not sponsored. Yeah. Not at all. I just actually love it. Anyway, so chat GPT, what you asked it to answer questions for you yes like if I was like solve this like this crazy business problem would it be able to just do yes yes what can't it do it can do everything it's insane it's actually

crazy like when we're done with this you need to log on and like write in a prompt for it to solve and do and it will do it but I feel like every time someone does this we're like making it smarter and eventually it's going to take over because they were saying did you see the thing it was like Elon Musk and all these like top like tech people were like yo we should we got a slow down on like this side of a i don't know if it's chat gbt but some other side of i don't know too smart yeah otherwise like it's going to be dire for us yeah are you afraid of anything like that you're just like fuck it no because social media will always be a thing no social media has nothing to do with what i'm saying no but i'm saying i'm not worried because

like our jobs are secure it's not even our jobs i'm talking about it like our lives oh i thought you meant like it might get people out of the job no no i'm talking about just like end up being Like, you know the Terminator? Do you ever see The Terminator? Like Skynet? No. Like taken over? No, but I get what you're saying.

Like the end of the world. Like at restaurants instead of waiters, there's those cart, like the electric carts that bring your food. I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about, well, that's a real thing that's going to happen. People are going to lose their jobs. I'm going to be fucked. That part is going to be sad. For sure.

But I'm talking about like way past that part where it's like we're replacing humans because they're like, you know, if we replace all these workers, now we're just going to replace the people. and then they're just like then they're just bad they're going bad on us you ever think about that no I try not to actually yeah I've seen too many movies yeah too many movies I try not to think about that anyways fuck it it is what it is let's let's get back to social media how the fuck did you actually get a million followers in in a year besides you know no not besides what we're gonna say I was gonna joke with you I was gonna joke please tell the people clout chasing oh my fucking um being for the team but you're not we'll stop right there we'll stop with Sylvie was like that was not right I'm not for the team I'm only saying that because those are the comments and I know there's the comments that bug you I was the fucking the commenter you're the one commenting that I'm chat GPT and I'm like yo guys everyone says she's but this is the I want to talk about this because this is something that I know I've talked to off camera it does kind of bother you a little bit that's the I don't take anything to heart it's not like I will ever ruin my

day over like social media or the comments that are said yeah but sometimes when I see the for the team comments on my TikTok it kind of like well this is the thing it's it's a slap in the face yeah but the reason why I think it happens is because like you are such a bro like you're such a homie like with everyone I think that you know you're maybe you're like demeanor comes across like maybe you're flirty because you're nice because you're talkative because like you're charismatic and I think that's just a common thing that happens like because I think you're right because most Most girls, I guess when you look, I look into, like, social media girls, like either like, you look at them, you're like, oh, damn, they're super hot or like they're funny. You have this like weird in between.

Yeah. Or like, you're not really funny. You're not super hot. It's like, but you're like both. You're kind of ugly. You're not really that funny. I'm fucking. No, but you play that line and you're like, just because like it is actually your personality.

And I think that's why like because you're friendly to everyone that they go, she's for the team. But it's an interesting thing because I know you personally. how I am on camera is the same as I am off camera I think I'm the same energy like yeah I think I wonder why it translates so much to the people saying like or maybe they just want to hate on you yeah because they like you know they say there's a thin line between love and hate very thin line and I have a lot of love hate and hate for me no no it's in general just in general no no I have why would I have hate for you I don't know we make the best content I think we do yeah everyone thinks we're in love yeah everyone does think that

why do you think they think that I think it's because we joke around make like like the like the same thing you were saying like friendly banter whatever it may be and they're like oh they're in love you both have the same like shitty sarcastic humor I think we're very similar in that aspect yeah I think that's why and I think we're both just like kind of not obnoxious but like loud yeah and just like obnoxious like obnoxious and like heads and then like it's caught on camera and they're like oh my god like they're so in love yeah it's funny because it's like it's very uh it's very candid like it's very improv it is none of it's it's scripted it's just like you turn the camera on and it starts going i saw one the other day where

uh we were outside of the gym it was on best of bradley morn shout out my boy um again the greatest instagram and ticot account anyways um and we were outside of the gym and i don't even know how we did this because you were talking some shit to your YouTube guy yeah and then it it was a thing where you were like oh you're like what would you do if if a girl ever proposed to you oh yeah yeah yeah and I was like I'd probably say no and it was just I remember thinking about this moment because like I watched that clip and I was like well this shit was funny yeah like I was like oh oh never mind then and we made it so awkward and I feel like we it was funny because I'm looking at it as a viewer and I was like well this is funny because the awkwardness was funny

funny yeah and then when i was doing it we didn't plan it we didn't even think of it we just was like this yeah it's like for us it's just like the one take and it's like and then it gets chopped up and it gets super fucking funny but like why like how does that happen do you think you're just like born or like you're like an actor or something i don't think i'm an actor but i think that i just have high energy like i'm just energetic but that's not why that's not why you're able to have like because i've done improv stuff for like years yeah on so on social media in YouTube and like with the Domazetti character like all the content I did with him was all improv like we'd have a concept and then I'd play this like character with you you haven't done

you've been on social media for like literally a little more than a year and YouTube for even less than that yeah but you have this like natural sense of comedy and this natural sense of like being able to read the situation yeah I try to be aware of what's going on around me and how I can adapt to it because the funniest people that I watch like The most content that I enjoy is, like, funny people on social media, whether that's, like, Gideon or, like, Danny Duncan, like, that type of, like, you know, they fuck with you and, like, they're just funny. I think that's the best type of content, the best type of content to watch.

So is that how you develop some of, like, your, I guess your, I don't want to say character, but, like, some of your IQ in regards to how you make content, like, from watching other people's content? I think so. But I think that's also just how I am. Like, I was saying, like, on camera, off camera, I still fuck with people and I still, like do the banter whether the camera's on or not the camera just gives me a little bit more of an excuse to do yes you always kind of bet in that way yeah it's just interesting because

i noticed with you and i and that's why it's i like film with you because it's so simple it's like show up and like have literally zero plan and like but have like at least a few dope pieces of content yeah you don't really have to plan beforehand but the same goes with you i'm like as long as brads there it'll be good content well but but that's the thing that's interesting to me is that i but i've i've been doing it for years yeah you haven't so it's When I look at you, I'm like, damn, the shit, like, she could really fucking, you're going places, kid. I'm like, many people comment on my shit, mini Bradley Martin. Yes, because you're fucking hated.

Yeah, I know. Yeah. You're hated, dude. No, you're really loved. But no, so this is interesting. Like, the idea, this idea of, you, you said it, the way you are off camera is the same kind of way and style you are kind of like on camera, right? And I think that's the only way someone can be successful is if you want to do social media or whatever it is, but you do it off camera and on camera. Like Jacob edits off camera and on camera.

If you were to do that, he could implement that every day. Because that's his life. Yes. So I had the same conversation when we did the full sempie with Chris Bum said. And I've had this conversation with tons of really successful people. But the people who are greatest at things, the things that are outward reflecting. I was like, oh, that guy's so good at this or oh, that girl's so good at that are people who really do these things because they really love them. like Jacob has been editing and like doing this shit and he actually like enjoys the whole process

so that obviously he does it for a job he's he's taking more care in it yeah you do this you like this is who you are on or off camera so when you're like performing it's like seamless and simple yeah Chris was talking about in relationship to like bodybuilding he he loved it he enjoyed it so much after he found sports he's like well I like this bodybuilding shit and I want to continue to be competitive like he has that mentality the people who are really successful at the things they do are very successful because like it really means something to them because it's like also who they are yeah like versus a lot of people get into things because they see someone else do it and they go I want to be successful too let me almost

pretend like I like this shit yeah then it never works there's no longevity in that yeah because you'd be working out if the camera wasn't there or so your following wasn't there you'd still be working out same goes with me oh yeah I mean before this shit existed that's what I did yeah it wasn't like some thing that I was like oh I can be famous on social media I was just working out and it was my life and I was a trainer and I was like oh this new app looks cool because I was always trying to figure out how to live on the internet because I wanted to I've told the story before but because I wanted to be able to play video games and like stay at home and work out yeah that was my like typical Jim bro idea yeah I was like I got out of sports and I was like I love working out I love playing video games I want to be able to be at home as much as possible like with my dogs and like be able to work out and like be able to work out and that was my like how do I figure out and then the internet so that I'm like reading about like these things. coming out and then you know being the fucking old man that i am 2011 ended 2010 yeah yeah it's crazy i was like i was just found the app because i was like constantly looking on the app store

to find apps to figure out like because i tried twitter and i was like i don't know how to do this shit and they're like social media is going to change the world they were talking back then about e-commerce all the shit which now we know is your whole life is different because of it yeah my life as well obviously but um yeah i always i always like i had like weird motivations it was like to do the things that I, that I love. If I remember this, I think about this too. If streaming was a thing then, I probably would have just been like,

not even fuck the gym because I still would have worked out. Yeah. But I would have been like Tyler. You know who Tyler one is? He's a streamer who he also is like a gym bro, like Super Jack and Strong. That's what I probably would have done. But I probably would have been a streamer

because I was such a nerd playing video games. But didn't you try streaming like last year for a while? Yeah, but so last year for a while, so involved in this stuff. I'm talking about back then. Back then, okay, before this stuff existed. Yeah, before I was like, oh, I have all these things to deal with. Back then, I was just a huge nerd.

Gotcha. I would work out and I would trip play video games. Probably the equal amount. That's crazy. Actually, more video games, way more video games. But, like, my focus was those two things and then, like, eating food. And what I'm saying is back then, if streaming was a thing, because the circumstances that I was in as far as the video games I was playing,

I was like really like high level in those fucking video games. Game, so World Warcraft at the time, but it wasn't, streaming wasn't the thing that people were doing. Yeah. So sooner or later, I was destined to be a fucking, uh, internet icon, an internet nerd. Yeah. Hate it, hate it or love it. But anyways, this is to you, right?

Like when you were doing this, you know, social media grind at any point over the last, like, year and a half, which is so crazy to think you did it in, in like, little over a year, did you ever want to quit? No. No. Not yet. not yet they never got to you no not to that extent because what I think of it is it's a job it's monetized for me I make money from it it's a job you're never gonna 100% love any job

you know with whatever job it is even if I was sitting at an office at an office from 9 to 5 there would be shit that would bother me or someone would get on my nerves or I'd bump heads with someone or whatever it may be so you don't believe the typical if you love what you do you don't work a day oh my god no I don't believe that I know it's pretty funny because this is like the ideal like two years ago looking I'd be like oh my god these people on social media like making tic talks whatever it may be like they're so lucky like they're so lucky this is such a good easy job which in comparison it is relatively easy I'm not going to say this is as hard as blah blah I say I depending how serious you take it depending how serious you take it yes

but um it's still a job yeah like there will be times that and for me I think it's a little bit harder because I'm also doing school at the same time so so many times I'm like I can't hang out or I can't do this I have to do X Y and Z or I have to do school or I have to like post this or have to edit this or yeah it's all just different perspective I always say like you know if you love like the only way you could like you know never work is if you didn't pay taxes true you know if at the end of the year didn't come and the government was like let me fuck you did you do your taxes this year course man yeah that's not let's have you ever gotten audited audited no No. You haven't? Knock on wood. No, I pay my taxes. I wouldn't get audited. No, but it's random. They say at least once every- Let's not put it out there. Jesus Christ, our phones are listening. Chat GPT, dude. They're going to fuck it next to you know.

I'm saying it's completely random. Okay, well, let's like stop talking about this. So they don't like completely randomly directly select this podcast and then- Stop. You're freaking me out. They're going to come for you too now. Okay. Better put your phone in Airplay mode, which I don't even know if that matters, but. No, they probably still listen. Holy shit, dude. That's such a crazy.

crazy concept the fucking the internet that you talk about something and then it's on your instagram ads god it's they're just they're stalking us what do you think we got to talk about this then the the the ticot ban and all this like this what is it reform act or whatever the fucking thing is have you seen about that what do you know what you know about it but i haven't i can't say what i've seen is legit because i've seen it only on social media i need to do like i need to actually look at it yeah but well i'll tell you so i don't give you i want your opinion on it Yeah, I got you. I read stuff.

So it's a basically, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a outwardly like a ban on TikTok, but inwardly it's also like a a restraint on e-commerce and stuff, right? In a kind of invasion of privacy. Okay. Where like they, they're also gaining access to like people's fucking home cameras and any, basically like they're, they were like submitting to essentially the government's buying on us and not being able to use.

in this case foreign adversaries platforms being this one being TikTok but then that also foreign adversaries being able to like change however they see fit whenever they see fit if they were like you know tomorrow Puerto Rico is you know or no obviously not Puerto Rico but like fucking Brazil was a foreign adversary and any app or any platform from them we couldn't use like it's it's a it's a crazy concept saying that like you basically now we're kind of like they're starting to try to get more control on social media yeah and also have the right to like go into our lives and into our cameras and into our and like outwardly like hey we're going to do this yeah so that's the the crazy part about this like TikTok band thing that if it gets past it's also

being passed along with all this other like pretty much invasion of privacy do you think it will get past I mean when's it's it's supposed to when's the date for it or whatever I don't know the exact date but I hope it doesn't get past because it's for sure TikTok's gone right because it's a foreign adversary fuck TikTok um Snapchat no but Let's go. Let's go. No, but all the other things in that, in the actor. Scary.

Or scary. Yeah. Really scary. But I think a lot of people are focusing on like, oh, my God, it's going to ban TikTok because that's what is all over social media, just the TikTok portion of it, not like all the other behind the scenes stuff you just mentioned. Well, yeah. You know, it's interesting, too, how they're able to, I mean, it's just such a weird thing

because they frame this TikTok thing. And, you know, obviously I don't know enough about all of this stuff to really, like, like speak on it but I'm going to fucking speak on it regardless like it's it's it's it's just a funny thing where they start to convince people that like oh China's spying on you so we got to stop this yeah um not that that's a good thing and that we want that but at the same time like all these other apps are not necessarily Chinese owned but like they're also all spying on us yeah so it's like obviously we could say oh we don't want China to spy on us but our own government does anyways yeah it's just kind of like we're it's just a weird time it's honestly

one of the weirdest times ever um and like there's so much shit that's changing and shifting do you ever get afraid for your future or like do you want kids like do you want to like you know i can't say you're going to have kids in the next you know year or so but i do want i do want kids i think eventually yeah i just don't think about it right now yeah but i would want kids like i'd want two kids but do you are you afraid of any of like because this shit's i don't know i know and i understand what you're saying 100% i'm just not the type that thinks that far into the future That's probably really good. I never do.

I'm not an overthinker. And I think it's bad that I don't think that far ahead. But I think just far enough ahead as I have to, like maybe a year at most. But I don't think about anything. I can you put a time on that, a year? A year at most, yeah. But I don't see things change. Like, I mean, I'm sure things will change, but I just don't think about it.

Yeah. It's just interesting because it's like, I understand that mentality. I think it's like it's easy to think that. And then next thing, you know, it's like, When it's finally really changing and it's affecting you, then you're like, wait a sec. But then at that point. I should have probably thought about this sooner. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. But yeah, this whole TikTok thing, I just think it's an interesting, I don't know, man. It feels like it's like every year, every two years. There's some new thing. They're like, they're creeping closer with like control, the government control and a taking.

It is scary. But you don't give a fuck. But I don't. You're just like, I'm just going to post social media. Go to fucking two mill. finish my master's two mil on the way post on Snapchat simple life yeah no I but it's wrong to have the mindset I do have it's not wrong like thinking such short term but I feel like maybe a lot of people think that way short term yeah yeah but being short term is not necessarily a bad thing

because like sometimes people like me are people that just think too far you're like you're fucking because you're thinking so far about where a goat might go you think too far I think too far I I think too short. I think that there's a fine mix. Because I'll probably create some like, you know, anxiety around the future. Yeah, you overthink to the max. I don't, I'm not a, I'm a very low anxiety person. I don't have anxiety.

Sure, sometimes I'll like, overthink it for half a second, but then I'm like, yeah, fuck it. Half a second. Yeah. Fuck, what a beautiful life. That's a beautiful life, man. No, but then some shit happens and I'm like, I wish I would have thought more about this before it happened. Yes, but I don't know. I don't, I think your way is better, though, because it's like, then you could live more in the moment in regards to, like, all the things you're doing and trying to accomplish instead of like the worry of the future.

Because, yeah, it is good to think about, oh, I got to worry about this, worry about that. But there are some things that like you literally just can't control and make your way. Yeah. So the way that you're doing is actually, like, really beneficial. Yeah. Super beneficial. Do you? I think so because, like, I've seen girls, like, they're, or guys, too, like, they want to post something.

And they think, like, 30, 45 minutes about what they're going to post, what the kind of. captions going to be relating this back to social media but I'm saying like I always like good enough like throw it up and it's interesting because then obviously you have success yeah I try not to like I'm not going to overcomplicate I'm like okay it's good enough like I like it hopefully and I'm the opposite even though I've oh my god I know I've seen you you're like is this good is this is this good like the caption I don't know so just I just don't even post yeah I know you these guys rag on me all the time I just don't even post shit he has the unlimited content and he doesn't post yeah and it's because you

overthink yeah i know i know i know it's really bad it's honestly a really bad thing but yeah there's no bud here it's just a bad it's just a bad you overthink to the max yeah i have a problem for sure a lot of them a lot of them it's okay which is why i go to the gym Why did you get involved in the gym in the first place? Because you love the gym, obviously. It's clear. I love the gym. Regardless, I think I'll be working out for the rest of my life.

Yeah, I mean, it was clear. When I first found you, regardless of social media, it was clear you did the gym for real. It's the like two hours of the day that I know I can be happy. Why the other hours you can't be happy? No, this is like guaranteed happiness. I like how serious you were about that. I'm serious. I am.

I know the people like I'll like the people that are at the gym like I'll make short like conversation it's my it's my two hours of social hours well yeah you get out you talk to people when did you realize that how old were you well I I've only been working out for two years I started April of 2021 it's actually kind of insane yeah but I'm I'm a different person like I feel like if you knew me before April of 2021 and you know me now you're going to be like wow so much more self-worth like she grew up a little bit what was so different though I think I was just so insecure about what about everything about how I looked about like everything about myself like like like the banter and stuff I make now I would not have had the balls to like

you know be extroverted enough to say how I think in a group setting why because my self-confidence was so shit but I didn't realize it at the time until I looked back and I'm like, wow, that's, like, I look for pictures or videos to make, like, a transformation or whatever video. And I'm like, I hid my body under like big ass sweatshirts, baggy jeans, whatever it may be, because I didn't like the way I looked. Why do you want to change it? Like, was a gym you trying to change it or like, did you know? The gym was me trying to change it. The gym, like, I wanted to, my brother would always like measure his food or whatever it may be, like down to the gram.

So your brother was in the gym before you. Yes, he was. And then I'd always see him like, you know, he'd go to Costco every week, spend $300 and, like, measure his foods. And he loved his lifestyle at the time. Like, he loved it. And I was like, that's kind of appealing to me. I just sit in my room and I get like a McDonald's burger and a McDonald's Coke and I call it a day. So you were full on scumbag before this.

Scumbag. I think I was just down bad. Yeah, scumbag. I don't mean it literally, obviously. But like, or getting McDonald's in your room is like, dude. Yeah, I knew. At least eat it on the way home from McDonald's before you get home. No.

Like to bring it into your room is like kind of sad. In my room with the lights off. Oh, fuck. You know, I called you once and it was like seven o'clock and you were like, I'm going to sleep. And I was like, okay? Yeah, but that's when I was like, you know, muscle grows in your sleep. I was like, dude, this shit's a psychopath. Yeah, no, I do.

Seven o'clock with a cat. Yeah. I was like, she's insane. You're in bed. You're laying down. I was like, are you sleep? Now I do it in better spirit. Like, I'm happy doing it now.

Then I was like, I have nothing to do. I might as well sleep. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Now I do it in better, I have better intentions there. Then I was like, my life sucks. Do you think, do you think you just got to that point just because like, I mean, just because you didn't have the gym or you got there because like of other things in

your life that were happening? Like, how did you get to the point where you're like, I'm a shithead eating McDonald's? I think I felt I, I mean, I got in a cycle of just school. Maybe I'd see my friends. Maybe I wouldn't. I was barely eating. It was just so unfulfilling. Everything was unfulfilling.

I'd hang out with my friends. and I'd come back home and I'd be like that fucking sucked like I was with people but I felt alone yeah like I'd be with 10 people like 10 girls and I'd come home and I was like wow like I mean at least I wasn't physically alone but I felt alone is it just how you always felt growing up or like did that start to happen as you got a little bit older I think it was just like a year funk for me as I got older what what spawned it like what started it just life just growing up yeah I can't pinpoint exactly what it was, but I just remember a time where I'd eat like one dollar burger from McDonald's and one Coke. And that'd be my entire food for the 24 hour period. And I would

so much value that drive to McDonald's because I'd be like alone playing music. Like it was nighttime. I'd get the food, go back to my room, turn the lights off, eat it. Same rotation every day for a while. And then like school and other bullshit. School other bullshit that like was so So then why were you like your brother was cooking the food or making a food and you're like maybe I'll try that? And I kind of like resented how like happy he was in his lifestyle and I was like if he can do it like I can do it. So I was like you know what? I'm going to go to Costco buy some salmon and rice and then bought that and then my mom would cook it for me obviously I can't cook. My mom could it for me like it got to the point that when I was under eating she was like Sarah we need to go to the doctor like you are not eating. How skinny were you?

I was 100 pounds. five foot five 100 pounds which for me i was never growing up i was never like i'm not meant to be skinny it's weird like my body type because you have really good genetics like i do have yeah it's not it's not normal to work out for a year and be like kind of jacked for girls and for most guys too yeah but i think it was because like my starting point was malnourished like literally eating disorder was my starting point where i wasn't feeding my body anything sustainable so till i started giving it protein carbs whatever it's probably also why you felt shitty too yeah 100% without really under understanding I think a lot of people don't realize that

like they feel bad because of their diet yes I don't think they realize or understand that at all no we're like that was just making your situation meant worse way worse it was 100% and then you fix that and then it changes everything into you it changes everything and I think the most valuable things someone can do is realize their own self-worth because then it'll change the way you allow people to treat you and how you treat yourself yeah like your own self-worth dictates everything in your life well yeah I mean that's that's the interesting thing about fucking everything in life period is like even relationships people that you like allow in your life is a reflection of

self like everything is just kind of like showing you how you let people fucking talk to you yeah yeah all of it so growing up you always had a good relationship with your mother yes yeah we were always like not the type that you tell her like secrets to maybe, but the type that she was always there for you. What secrets are you keep from your mom? But I'm saying like you don't disclose you don't have to disclose like Your steroid usage. You were like I'm not going to tell her about this. Mom like sure you found anavar not mine not mine's like probably bros you know like no I'm

kidding I don't do steroids but um like I wouldn't tell her like secrets or like bits and pieces about my life but like she was still there for me what about now do you think you talk to her more about your life than you do that? Yeah, I talked to her more about my life now, I think. But I think it's also because now I'm at the point where I'm not as scared because what, what is she going to do? I'm 22. You know what? I mean, I still do live at home. Like, she could totally kick me out. Huh? She still cooked your food. Huh? She still cooked. Okay. Why we got to say that on camera? I mean, you said it moments ago, but let's just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just saying it. Yeah, okay, yeah, she does cook my food. But I'm totally grateful. You're pretty much

fucked without her. I am. You're going to learn how to cook. It's not in the, it's not in the cards for me. I'm not going to learn how to cook. I'm not going to learn how to clean. I am sorry. Whoa. Whoa. That's tough. I just, I'm hoping that, you know, my partner would do that for me. Yeah. So you're going to date a, I'm okay. I'm, the norms don't have to be there. I'll be the breadwinner. So you're going to date a girl. I'm didn't say I'm going to date a girl. Okay. Well, you said two things that just referenced dating a girl. No, I'm just going to sound really insensitive right now, but I don't care. Guys, guys, guys I'm sure can cook and clean and they'd love to. Huh? Like three of them. Huh? Like three of

them no and they would love to not work and i'll just bring home the money and they can cook you want to stay at home dad that's kind of dope you can be like a sugar mama yeah i'm not saying that i'm just saying i know how i cook all that no you can't cook that's bullshit no i actually can't really cook i don't like to cook i can't cook yeah for me it's just time consuming i could do better things with my time than cook. Like what? Like what? Lay in bed.

Yo, with your cat at 7 o'clock? Yeah. Let's talk about the rest of your child. Let's talk about the rest of your life. Okay. What else? How's, uh, what's, uh, what's going on with your dad? Um, my dad passed away when I was younger.

Yeah. I was like, like five and we were out of the country. We were in Germany at the time and he passed away. How do you pass away? Heart attack. That's tough. Yeah. While you guys were in Germany?

Yeah, we were visiting my mom's, like, my mom, my aunt, my mom's sister. And he was a professor at a university. So he had to stay, like, back home and, yeah. So obviously you didn't get much time? No, I was, like, too young. Yeah. Yeah. has that has that how is that affected like you're just your life the direction of your life do you think

it has yeah yeah I think it has like I always assume people are temporary yeah that's a real one I relate to that heavily that like everything I mean everything is temporary it is that's the thing but I guess I understand in that sense of like the idea of love and love or a person that you love or, you know, not being in your life forever. It just really, I was actually talking to Jake about this or driving back from fucking Vegas going through my own shit, but it is actually, I don't know, somewhat soothing to know that like, you know, just everything is temporary. Not that like you just treat people or treat things like it doesn't matter, but I know

how hard it is to feel like, you know, it's, I don't know, it's hard to involve more people because you it's funny when I think about you now what I know about you you definitely keep to yourself yeah I do a lot like me um because maybe are you afraid of like bringing people close to you I don't think I'm afraid of that but I think I definitely have walls built up yeah but like for me it's just the idea of like death or whatever like scares me like I can like you I remember once we talked about it and you're like as you grow up you become to be like more like content with it maybe like you're more okay but like I just don't see that for me yeah I didn't when I was your age and I still I still like really I'm fearful of it but it's it's over the last like

three years it's really subsided like it's really changed for me I mean the stuff that I've done to work on it like therapy there's other things I've done to try to like fix it my relationship to it but I think yeah that I mean that spawned for me my dad took his life when I was six you know not a heart attack but different circumstances regardless the same idea came out of where I was like I was I was always kind of afraid to bring someone close to me and then I would always kind of sabotage like the love and the relationships in my life that I did have because I was just afraid of it leaving so that like almost like my control and oh I can get ahead of that and I'd be the one making it leave instead of it leaving me yeah like you're the one in power kind of

which was so crazy because like what I wanted at the end of day was just to have a good strong relationship with a person doesn't matter but you self-sabotage yeah self-sabotage shit do you find yourself doing that in relationships or things i think i am i think i do set myself up for self-sabotage but in what but in what like friend because i never noticed that like because with me you're actually a really good friend like i can call you i think i am a better friend than i am a partner got it i think i am i can but i think there's like such a big difference between being someone's like friend and being someone's for sure like the other emotions that come involved like get the best of me yeah like I can be not logic like I feel like I'm a very like logical grounded person but I

when other feelings come involved I'm not logical I'm not grounded I I'm extreme but talking about love yeah but also I think it is with me with love not necessarily in a relationship that like an intimate relationship but love in general like like how I am with my mom like I can be like spiteful or I can be aggressive or like... Yeah. But it's just... And it sounds shitty. It sounds so shitty because she does the most for me

and has done the most for me. Yeah. But like, yeah, sometimes like I just get... I have a short fuse or whatever it may be with my mom, but with my best friend or whatever, I have the most amount of patience. It's interesting. And it shouldn't be like that.

I should have the most amount of patience for my mom. Do you think it's just what? Because of the level of love, it's like, is it... Maybe. maybe it's the level of lover maybe it's just you get comfortable with someone and you think that however you are whatever you say is okay because there's unconditional love both ways have you have you have you shifted that part of you like because like realizing it's obviously important part of but have you shifted that at all in your relationship with your mom work in progress

yeah I wish your mom was here right now to tell to give us that answer she's very sweet she's so freaking nice like the whole time growing up my dad passed away like what 17 years ago not once did she go on another date with man that's fucking like loyalty to the max yeah that's crazy damn it's in your blood you're loyal you're a real one not a lot of real ones out there not a lot she's like she's the type of mom that like we have a car two car garage and she lets my brother and i park in the garage when she's a six year old woman and she'll park across the street and walk because she wants to make sure my brother and I got it safe yeah she's sweet you should probably do the same for her to be like no you know what mom

you're going to park here i try but she's the type she's like no you're the one that comes home like late from hanging out with your friends or whatever it may be like you need to park in the garage yeah you think you learn a lot from your mom yeah 100% yeah do you think that like that sort of I guess I don't know like the things that you've learned from her and just from the people in your life do you think they've translated to the rest of your life in regards to like this the way you treat like people through you know what you meet on social media or friends that you make I think so I genuinely try like anyone that I meet I try to give 100% 100% too and it doesn't always pay off but yeah I try to always give 100% I notice that about you always like always like. If I meet someone, I always, like, try to shake their hand. Like, if it's a fan or a follower or someone who knows me from social media, not a fan or a follower, just someone who knows me from social media. Yeah.

Like, they're like, hey, can I get a picture? I try to be like, hey, like, what's your name? Like, Michael? Oh, I'm Sarah. Nice to meet you. Like, I try to make conversation. So it's something meaningful for them. I see it.

Not just like a picture. I see it. So it's interesting. I just, I just find it so interesting. I just, God, some people, I don't know. Yeah. I wish there were, I don't know. I wish there were more people like you on social media.

media. I do. You're actually a good person for real. I try to be it's very rare because I like I said I've done it for so many so many years and I've met so many people but like it's just rare to find genuine good people. It's like you seem to find more people who are like seem to be just like I don't want to say like evil and fucking conniving and like you know and I just wonder oh I wonder overall where does that come from I guess it's your childhood. I think the credit is like to my mom and I I genuinely think it's like how I grew up. Because I remember, remember what I would joke with you when I first met you? Oh my God. Dude, it wasn't a joke to me. You'd be like, you're going to fuck me over. I know how this goes. People get money and they leave. Like, you're going to fuck me over.

Like, this is just, money's going to change you. Money's going to. Oh my God. That was your favorite saying. And I was like, bitch, like, I know money's not going to change me now. You know what money did change is I go to in and out and I can afford to get the four by four and a fries rather than just the burger.

It didn't change you. I'm surprised. It didn't change me whatsoever. Like, I can eat a little bit better now. Yeah. But that's what I'm most surprised about because like that's that's so it's just so fucking rare Most people they get money and they're like I'm better and I'm different No money has nothing to do with like anything else

You can just afford nicer things or eat better whatever it may be but it has no correlation to who you are If anything I think it's more valuable to have money and then be a good person because it shows that You have whatever the assets maybe but you're still like genuine and down earth like that's what i try to do is when i see people i want them to feel valued from that conversation have you you you've i'm assuming obviously you've met you're the same way money hasn't changed like i feel like you're not materialistic like you've been driving the same cloud for 10 years yeah we like the LA things that you know typical LA things i feel like you also do not fit the stereotypical yeah well i just don't give a fuck about certain things yeah

like I value more so like building things than I do like having things yeah like having stuff it's funny as I see here with this bracelet yeah okay if you don't value it I only got one bracelet this is this was a this was a pressure bracelet Steve made me buy this bracelet because we were all we were like on a so you give an up your pressure I did once I feel like you're the type and all my other jewelry all my other jewelry like was pretty much a gift gift yeah so I'm not big into just buying things I mean, like, yeah, I've been driving the same trucks as 2017, but I'm not trying to make this about me not buying things. I just have so much more value in the idea of if I'm going to spend my money towards something,

it's going to be building something instead of just like having stuff. Well, I think you've done that pretty well. Roggear, zoo culture, zoo culture 2.0. Yeah. We're doing the little training studios. Origins dropping in the supplement company. What is that? I've been seeing you tease that.

What is origins? So, I mean, I've had a something company years ago and then I stopped. for time because I was working with the boys on their on their products and then we stopped that partnership and so I was like okay I'm gonna do do my thing over again so it's basically I mean it's gonna be a full line how I envision is um not just sports performance like not just like you know pre-workout pump stuff like all that kind of stuff the good stuff I also want a lot of an an an annavore no but natural anabar not natural no but products that are um health supplements Like all the stuff that I've taken over the years

That have like really helped me Fish oils omega three ashriganda Yeah for the most stuff like blend stuff like that That are just like things that I've really noticed Through like getting my blood work done over all the years That like have actually really helped me See improvements in like my health markers And all that kind of stuff

So like being healthy along this whole way of like Sometimes killing yourself Perfect for the gains So killing yourself for the gains But trying to like combat So basically it'll cater to people who do steroid usage so they can get the other things in that you want to get it all right so you want the health stuff solid and then you also want the crazy dope pre-workouts that's i'm going to build it like that

just the stuff that i've done over the years yeah that's great yeah the things that have proven to work for me were like you know before there were products that there are some companies out that do actually make really great products that i really like that prior to those even being there like i would go find these like extracts and ingredients and like put them and blend it together and make my own shit and it would taste like trash but it's because it wasn't It worked. It was good. So stuff that's really helped me over the year. So the goal is to like make that that like a health supplement product line and also sports performance.

It's like, you know, the filthy palms stuff. The filthy palms. Yeah. The good stuff. That's dope. But it's the thing I just, when I talk to you about this stuff, I'm like, you know, obviously it's so funny to me because like I'm talking to someone who's like one of my athletes on like my team, which is dope and we love you and you're great. but at the same time like even when I first met you or like I said earlier I still like you have the potential to build businesses of your own but it seems like not necessarily you

don't want to maybe like are you afraid to I think I'm just afraid to I don't think I have a drive for it yet and I'm not going to do something if I'm not necessary like you have a drive for it which is great and that needs to be there for you to do something yeah I'm a psychopath you are a psychopath but like right now I'm really enjoying how things are going so you're not thinking about being a crazy person not yet I'm already a crazy I'm like low-key crazy but like every every person's every girl at least is low-key-crazy you just got to choose you know no one's gonna be perfect everyone's low-key crazy have you ever been with a girl that's not crazy no yeah a little bit a little bit everyone's a little that's what I'm saying a little crazy

Well, yeah, everyone is a little crazy So then it's not crazy, it's normal But there's different degrees of crazy For sure, I know a few different degrees Degrees. So let's talk about this dynamic, the girls and guys And we've got to talk about dating

Dating, okay You know, the classic question Should a guy hit on a girl in the gym? I think that it's fine. Appropriate timing. If there's appropriate timing, it's okay. You know why it's hard for me to ever hear answers to this?

question i feel like there is only one answer it's yes because i only go to the gym so i'm trying to think of my perspective like bro that's my social hour where else are you going to see me yeah like you might get lucky and see me at chipotle after but like the gym's the only guaranteed two hours of the day that i'm out of the house yeah and not with your cat at home yeah so you got to make the move at the gym so then okay that's obviously like you know there's certain timing you said there is It's like, okay, if you're stretching or if you're in between sets or like if she's just on her phone, she can probably engage in a minute conversation with you as well.

You know what I'm saying? But don't be the kind of guy who's midset and you're like, hey. Yeah. No, don't do that. Stare at her while she's on doing squats? Yeah, no. The worst thing you can do is stare to the point that she thinks you're creepy and then you come up to her. She already has this idea that you're fucking creepy.

You know what I mean? If you've been staring at her and she's like, what is that? What do you think about those TikTok videos where, like, the girls, like, exposed the guys for looking at them and they go super hard? Bro, all I'm saying is if guys had tripods standing up while they were doing RDLs, I'd be exposed to. I stare. Everyone stares, I think. Why do you think if it got popular for girls? I mean, I know the answer.

They just want to clout. But I think there is a difference between, like, I think if someone's in your age group, it's more acceptable to stare at the opposite sex. But if someone, do you know what I'm saying? Like, there's a difference. Like for me, like, if a 70-year-old guy keeps staring as opposed to like a 25-year-old guy, you know what I mean? I have seen guys at the gym and it's always older men taking pictures of me. Always. At my gym?

No, no, no, not at your gym at commercial gyms. Okay. Oh, who the fuck is that guy? No, at your gym, I'm always like, it's okay because Bradley's here. Yeah, what the fuck? He'll handle it. Ain't no one doing that. No, you're always so, like I always, I value our friendship to the point that I, I

know you have my back like that one time that I don't know some dumbass kid from your gym posted a video and then in the comment section he like shitted on me whatever it may have been at the time yeah and then I sent you a screenshot and you were like um you're like we'll try to talk to him about it like that's not okay but like if he's like just not respectful or whatever like we'll kick him out yeah like you care about the people around you of course you know what I mean like that's of course I appreciate that's nice that's really nice like it's comforting to know that even me I know if I like got myself in a shitty situation and I called you like you'd be there to help whether it was advice or like a hundred percent like coming to like pick me up or giving me money

like whatever it may be it was from the airport I don't know if I'd get you no I wouldn't pick up anyone from LAX no that's a different type of no that going through that loop I'm like hey listen get out that loop I'll come get you yeah straight up no 100 percent I wouldn't trust you driving in LA anyways it's scary no no I get you in LA just not the airport Dude, I'm a great driver. Jacob can attest to that. Jacob knows you're a shitty driver. Jacob knows I'm a great driver.

Yo, you drive that, he drives a Ford Raptor. He drives the Ford Raptor like he has a GT3RS or something. That's actually so accurate. That's actually so accurate. Like he does not drive that thing like it's a truck. Kevin's always like, dude, you need a sports car. Yeah, but you wouldn't fit. I wouldn't.

I can't do it. But you don't drive it like it's a truck. No, I drive it like it's like a beam or something. Yeah, like you think. that thing will fit in any slot you pause pause yeah but no but seriously oh it's a talent it's a talent of mine do you so what's the most uh you're talking about guys and like fucking you know weird interactions older guys commercials what's the weirdest interaction you've had since you've like been on social media i mean i don't know many weird i always think it's so

awkward and people come up to you and ask you to follow them back oh yeah that's a good one Like you'll hit me back to follow yeah because you're like not too important that's not the way I see it was so as well fuck you with you I'm fucking no for me it's like the people like like I use Instagram as another way of like texting like connections like I'll follow people like whether it's like business great now I sound like a fucking dude no no you don't and that's not how I meant it the reality is this like I've probably been asked by like 500 maybe to 2,000 different people follow them back not just in person but like online and it's like you follow everyone back. back it's like you wouldn't see all the other shit that you're like no that's what i'm like i'm on there to see like what i need to see or like connect with people that i need to like talk to benefit from yeah no but not benefit from holy shit but i send dms all the time back i'm like if you use coseara like send me a screenshot i love trolling you dude just funny you're a good person you're not a shitty person you are literally one of the few that's like just solid you are i just troll you because like because you are so solid i troll you but i'm kidding i know i know you're not you're like actually

you a good fucking person and it's rare that's why i like that's why i like you the most i think thank you you're a good human and you deserve all your success and i'm fucking proud of you i mean that stop i'm gonna make you cry not trying to make you cry you you really and you work hard you care about the people around you care about the people who support you it's very clear and that's why i think you keep having more and more success i know that's why thank you like even like you know how you know there's a time it's like you blew up and then it slows down and like even right now it's like you're hell you're blowing up again. I think you continue to get moments like that because like you keep actually doing good. You keep actually putting good out. Yeah. Versus like you blow up and you're like I'm

better than everyone. It's like eventually the shit just whether it's outwardly happening online like there's something that starts to just kind of pull you down. And you know I think what it is is I've been to so many of these LA events and I see how regardless I think it's usually girls that are meaner but girls are mean into a girl than guys i mean whatever underlying intentions whatever it may be but i'm saying girls are usually meaner especially when they have a following and i've seen this firsthand and i think i'm just like i never want to be like that or portray myself like that yeah i see girls and they like i don't know if it's got another head or they were just like that before they got a following too oh man i've seen girls this completely do a fucking

complete turn and it just sounds like obviously people are just different what advice you give to someone who like wants to be successful in this industry and is afraid to kind of do it because it's not like you were afraid to do it in the beginning I was afraid to do it in the beginning yeah but you just you cannot overthink it and you just have you have to you have to and this is going to be ironic because I just said I don't like taking risks but you have to take the risks in order to be successful sometimes but also like the gym helped me find myself worth for someone else it might be like beauty or it might be lifestyle clothes or whatever like

your niche maybe it might be cars like something that you're just passionate about if you do it it will help you like find your own self-worth and happiness in the dude I'm really you're right but I'm willing to bet that the gym will help everyone I agree maybe I'm biased but I really think that no matter what the fuck you want to do in your life the gym will literally make you better at it I think to some extent it will because it shows discipline, getting up, going to the gym, eating somewhat correctly, you know, like hitting your nutrients, whatever it may be. I think it's all discipline.

Yeah, when you prove to yourself, you're capable of doing something that's physical, then you could see a result. And then at the same time, it just makes your life better because of your mental acuity. Yeah. It makes you sharper. No, 100%. It makes you more clear. So, Jim is everything.

What's going on? I'm sorry. Is it his beard? His mustache? His mustache was just, I'm sorry, his mustache. But no, I agree 100%. It does. It translates to everything else in your life.

Okay, be honest. Like, can you just be honest? Like, we're all, we're all curious. Yeah, go ahead. Like, have you ever kissed Steve? No. That is a very weird question. I just feel like there's something else there.

Because he's my friend. Okay, you don't have to be so defensive. No, I'm not defensive. I'm saying because he's a friend. No, like yesterday, yesterday. We were all just hanging out at the gym, right? Jacob, me, you, Faith, we were all just chilling. And then, like, you were just, like, kind of working out, sure.

And then, like, Steve pulls up. And you're like, oh, shit. Yeah, and Kyle. Yeah, and Kyle. Right. Okay. And then you're like, oh, my God, I have to get a pump. Like, they're here. Like, you didn't say that out loud, but, like, your actions.

So, like, you were kind of, like, look good. Like, you were trying to, like. Like, we were going to work out. You know what I'm saying? I don't know the logistics behind it. Like, when you and Faith were there, it was like, eh, I don't really need a pump. film stuff no that's exactly like with the girls you're like it doesn't matter men walk in well

there were there are people i was training with you know because like i didn't no you didn't know they were going to come you didn't know i didn't know kyle was going to come i knew steve was coming i was a surprise he was coming dude you are you're sick dude whatever i'm just i was just it was just a question i know they were curious too who them are they these two no i didn't need it like that I didn't even like, I mean them or they, the people watching. The people watching. I don't think they're curious about that. I think they're curious about your preference.

Dude, I know a lot of people do think that I'm like, bye or gay, but I am straight. I just, I'm a little assertive and I dress kind of. What did you say, Jacob? What do you say? Growing up, though, I always, I always, people always thought I was like a Tom, boy you are kind of a tom boy and it would hurt my feelings when they would say it that hurts your feelings yeah at the time it would hurt my feelings not now though because you weren't kind of no now I'm like totally it's dope I am I am but I'm saying at the time I'd be like I thought it had some underlying meaning

like you oh wow it's who gives a fuck now you're totally you're like a bro honestly thank you yeah what was that dude awkward moments with you are great let's talk about dogs and cats now because you mean good stupid cats like no like dude I walk in your your dogs ruin my fit my ragged your sweatshirt I gotta throw away now

I'm gonna be honest with you I think it's how the podcast ends because like I don't even think we can continue to talk why because you like cats more than dogs cats don't do that cats don't do that yeah cats also don't do anything except avoid you

That's totally not true. I know why you like cats. Why? Because I'm a pussy. Not because you're a pussy now. Because you don't have to really take care of them. That's probably true. That's low effort.

They're low effort. Yeah. Wow. It's sad. Okay. So this is how we're ending this. Okay. How long do you think it's going to take before you get $2 million on IG?

Because the first million is the hardest. It is? Yeah. Fuck yeah. First million is the hardest? That's just like, and that's like making money and everything. It's always the hard. hardest first is always the hardest and then it's easier well it took me i think like 14 15 months

so maybe another year 12 months you can you do another one in a year well you just said it's easier and now you're being judgment really judgment i'm just asking you yeah i think sooner what about youtube are you going to take youtube serious i've been trying to take youtube serious since day one i've been taking youtube serious i love youtube boost my whole rhythm but like what did you say Boost my algorithm. Please, please boost the alga. Comment for the algorithm, please. Yeah, guys.

And subscribe to this channel. Finally, like, he had me on a podcast for so long. Like, he only has, like, famous people and stuff. But he decided, like, it's okay. We'll have Sarah on. No, I think he's a bird. You know, we need a filler. We need a filler video.

We'll have Sarah Safari on. He's got a million followers on fucking a year, dude. That's impressive. And you're a good person. That's even more impressive. You're not a shithead. Are we going to throw a party? We're not throwing a party.

We're not throwing a party for a million. Yeah, no. We could go a party at the gym. That's what I'm saying. A party at the gym. Like right now. What are you doing after this? I was going to go workout.

Oh, shit, me too. Do you want to train? You want to work out together? I got legs, Loki. Oh, shit. Yeah, no, I have to go somewhere else. I figure. No, I'm not going to hit legs, actually.

Only if we deadlift. I'm not wearing the best shoes. Take them off. Fuck. Whatever. Those shoes are dope, though. You like him? Yes.

But we're going to deadlift today. Okay. We'll work out. Okay. Wait. Go ahead. I don't want this to be over. This is fun.

Okay. Let me pee first then. Okay. Is there anything else you want to talk about specifically? Yeah, I have a question for you. All right. If you guys want to send your questions for audiences, for audience questions, for you guys to ask us and ask the guests, ask Rott Talk at gmail.com, send us your questions.

But we don't have those right now. We're going to get those. I have questions for you. You have questions. But if you guys want your questions to answer by the next guest, Send the questions there and we'll answer them. Okay. Do you see yourself ever getting married?

Wow. That's a good one. Getting married. Probably not like married like in the traditional sense, but like having a partner and like creating a partnership. Why? Can you not commit? No, I can commit. I just don't like the idea of signing, hey, I'm getting married to the government.

Okay. I want to be in a partnership. I want to like be married without like the hey word, you know. Like I want that sort of relationship. Would you make her sign a pre-up? Oh, this is, you know that I would. We've had this, this is stupid ass video. Yo, I'd probably make him sign one too.

Yeah, I mean, it's like, I can see where you're coming from. Yeah, now, now you start making money to get it. At the time, I didn't, you know, I just started. Yeah, now you got some money. You're like, wait a second. It took some time to get this shit. But that's what it comes down to. It was just like, you know, it's just a funny thing, you know.

It is funny. I was just, you just got to, yeah, 100% they'd have they sign it. Because if someone spent their whole life to, work on something like not just the time you met when you met someone but like all the years leading up to that it's like you you know that person obviously can be very very important but like they also weren't there for them to be like yo we got married let's say fucking three years later they're like yo I'm out and but but you know half your shit's now mine forever true I see it's just kind of like whoa wait a sec okay do you want kids and if so how many I'd love two kids

but I always wanted two kids but I kind of want three kids oh yeah That number's going up. It's like, as you get older, like, I want like a whole fucking... Someone wife this man. I want a fucking football team or something. Oh. Four kids. Five kids.

Have you seen the, have you seen the video that like, um, someone asks a guy like, hey, would you rather have a gay son or a thought daughter? And then the guy's like, oh, a thought daughter. And then he's like, what if you come home and like the whole football team's like running a train on her? And the guy's like, shit, I'd join him. Bro, what? The fuck.

Do you know what video I'm talking about? That is terrible. No, dude. No. No. Holy shit. What are you talking about? No, there's a video.

I'll find it. Maybe don't pull that up. Listen, ask me that question, though. Would you rather have a gay son or a thought? 100% a gay son. Yeah. Gay son. Easy.

It's such an easy. It is a no-brainer. I think because it's like, it's because I'm a dude. I'm like, oh, it's like he's a dude. Like, you know, I, I just feel like he's going to be able to just deal with the bullshit versus like being a thought daughter's like you're going to get ran through and just like dealt with all this shitty hands and deal with all that shit

and like all the shit that comes along with it. Yeah. I feel like I don't know. No, I agree. Yeah. I would do. It's interesting coming from you. Actually, it makes sense coming from you.

I think, yeah, I think it makes because I don't want. I don't know because then it's, I don't know. go ahead go ahead what no like then like I feel like if you're like maybe I'm thinking too much into it but if you're like that much of a thought then you got no self-respect or like self-worth yeah I just find that so interesting you're just I've said this a few times this podcast but like how different you are from like a like a lot of girls that I know and you know what's funny is I started working out and posting content I was like you know what maybe it will motivate girls to get into the gym and they won't think like oh it's like gross to get big or whatever

I'm not even that big, but I'm saying. Well, that's getting so popular. Girls who work out is like such a popular thing. Yeah, but my audience is 10% females. Dudes love you. How come you don't post more like, uh, exercise tutorial type videos? So I just, I go with it. I don't even want to like, like, you're never going to be like, yo, here's this workout.

No, because I'm not. Because that will get you more girls. Yeah, but I feel like I'm also not a, what am I going to say? Five workouts to get your ass fat. Look at my ass. It's flat. Maybe they want to know how to get fucking. like how can I like how can I get up there and be like hey girls but you have like good ab maybe

maybe like ab routine type shit or like pull-ups you know yeah because some like a lot of girls now it's like forever the lower body was like that's all every single every girl wanted now like girls kind of want a little bit of both yeah the lower body forever I feel like but now girls are more like oh I want some like shapely arms and nice back yeah you could give some routines you would build your audience that way for sure yeah you should think about it Take my advice, trust. Okay. Because you would, I think you could crush that.

And you have a good personality where like... I can make it kind of like, banter, quirky, funny. No. Yeah, I didn't think so. No, not. You didn't have me going there on that one. Yeah, that's a fake plant. So like, do you do drugs?

Do I do drugs? Yes. What drugs? Well, besides steroids. I'd rather call them plants. Oh, my fucking. medicine I rather call them herbs herbs mushrooms I don't do synthetic drugs yeah just drugs from the from the earth that I take are steroids from the earth no they're not they are not they're not from

the earth they're synthesized oh yeah that's what I meant by like non that's why you're naughty I am a natural natural caper no no I'm a natural at making contact thin. Oh. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, you are. What do you think about Andrew Tate getting out being on a, like hard take there? I don't follow Andrew Tate, but what I can say about him is that he definitely knew how to monopolize on social media. Oh, yeah. Like businessman. Amazing. I just don't know much about it. Really? Yeah, I swear. I don't. Like yesterday, someone was saying, I was with my friends for a birthday party and someone was saying like, oh, like Andrew Tate got out. And I was like, I don't even.

really know he was that's lit your friends are probably cool i didn't really even know he was locked up he was in fucking he was yeah he was locked up for a minute that's your homie like what how do you feel about it what's your boy i'm excited to hear what he has to say yeah you're excited to rekindle your relationship with him he's dope i i messaged him and he said congrats on getting out is that what one says to another one no i said are you really out and he said yeah gee and then i said huge yeah he can be the top g while you're the bottom g you guys i don't know why you had to go there okay I don't know why you did that you're just weird for that that was super weird sorry that was really weird thank you for doing that and just really fucking this up but like that's

so awkward like yo congrats on getting out you why just no because you know you see the whole thing was like you just see all the the picks you see the highlights you see like the fucking TMZ and I was just like it was this guy actually out or is it just like bullshit yeah so I hope I just I don't know it's like I think it's probably a weird situation where like you can't you can't say much yeah do you do you see yourself living here for the rest of your life well that's a good question uh in this house specifically house area yeah i love this house if you if you ever want to sell this house like hit me up yeah i mean i can't afford it but maybe i don't know if i would live i don't know to be honest i i actually think about like living outside of the country sometimes

no you don't you're full of shit not full of shit i know you're full of shit i'm not full of No, you're overthinking ass. Like, how are you going to manage your brands and your gyms? I can do that from outside of the country. No, you can't. You love to say that. The hardest thing would be, the hardest thing would be doing the podcast. I'd have to travel to get a bunch of podcasts done here before I went somewhere else.

No, you act like, like, what you have to do for zoo culture is it hands on. It's pretty hands on. Yeah, but eventually it won't be. And it's kind of, it's not, it is because, like, I have to, I have to make sure certain things happen. But, like, I can put someone in place to make sure that it happens as well, too. I said, how well does that usually go? Well, it never goes as good as like you doing it, right? You never, you will not find someone else that will give you the same effort that you would give it.

Yeah, of course not. But that's, that's kind of a part of like success. You have to be able to balance as much as possible. Like, you know, I was talking about this with Kyle on the pod that we did was you, you like mass or something and then kind of like give it to someone else to try to do what you have to kind of let go of the fact that it's never going to be the same as the way you did it. but you want to find someone as close as possible to the way that you did it because like right now for example we're looking at spots in Vegas to open a gym really yeah like a like a super gym with like a bunch more shit we'll talk about it more in the future but um with this gym I know that I can't be there and here at the same time you know what I'm saying yeah so you find someone that like will care about it enough or if you can incentivize someone enough to care about as much as they can then like that's how you do it yeah but there's there's there's There's no other way to, like, really scale something. You can't be everywhere at one time. You can't do everything.

That'd be insane. In Vegas, I love Vegas. Yeah, it's going to be crazy. It'd be like a 20, 22,000 square foot spot. So this one over here is like 10. You'd be like double. Double that? Yeah, we build like actual like bathrooms and amenities and all that kind of shit.

That'd be insane though. It's going to be insane. And I feel like building the second one, now you got more thing. 10 times easy. Yeah, it'll be so much easier. There'll be new like regulations and stuff because it's in Las Vegas. but you'll be good well there's no there's a lot less actually a lot less it's everything is cheaper everything is like the barrier is easier everything's easier it's way better that's crazy

yeah so it's like you probably build something probably for half the cost like even just like rent wise employee wise everything yeah and get probably the same amount out of it yeah which is insane it's a good opportunity i'm excited because i feel like people go to Vegas like as a touristy spot and like when i went there i was like i need to find a gem and then i was like oh like dragons Slayer looks cool but then people go there and they'll be like oh my god bradley martin's gym well yeah that's why so opening these openings these gyms in any sort of like destination city always as well like because forever since zoo culture's been open i mean every time i'm there is like someone from norway japan fucking antarctica australia like people come from all the

world because they're going to l.a and then they're also a fan of like the content so they're like oh i want to check this out yep so vegas is another place like that uh miami would be another place like that but miami is very very hard to find spaces Do you want to find girls with BBLs? That's a whole other thing. That's, yeah, it's not a fan. Really not a fan. But I'm really looking forward to doing this Vegas spot for sure.

That'll be insane. But back to the point about like, yeah, it's not going to be the same as like you would do something, right? But you have to let go of that. Otherwise, you can't grow. You can't scale things. But I feel like for you, that's a little hard to let go of because I feel like you like to be in control. Like you're a micro, like you micromanage. Yeah.

I'm the same way though I can't fully ever like go I have to watch them do it until they can prove to me they can do it well it's fucked up because I've actually been in situations where I've not micromanaged as much where I let people manage more and I've actually found myself in really bad

situations that I had to clean up because someone just like completely flopped important tasks like I've been there so but you know it's just a matter of like again over time finding the right people to put into the right places

and understanding that like the first person or the second person may not always be the right person and just kind of like continuing to move through it but it's all a challenge so yeah maybe just making content and just working for me might be easier that's what I'm saying yeah I'm kidding I think I think you should do more shit because you're you're talented you're smart you know you got a lot more than that maybe not right now though maybe someone will already have something built and they'll be like yo Sarah like you're really smart I'll give you 50% of equity 50% already built 50% yeah and I have you know what I have to offer I have my knowledge to offer that's normally worth a lot less equity but you know you go 35% is good too you're fucking

crazy holy shit okay I got to get to the gym I have to go work out yeah I got to train it's been a pleasure it's been wonderful and I'm proud of you thank you and thank you for having me on here and you know always always supporting me and telling me what's right to do and what's not right to do and like bullshit like even like you i remember you'd be like sarah like you have to make an lc like shit like shit like that like it's just like a simple conversation but it benefits way more than just you saying a sentence or two so thank you yeah absolutely you deserve it you're a good person thank you so are you appreciate it so subscribe you have you have YouTube you have Instagram you got Snapchat yeah you tired I don't know why I'm yawning I got a crack up on this gym weed um so where else could they find you that's it snapchat Instagram

only fans you're kidding snapchat Instagram YouTube TikTok you hate it huh I kind of hate it out too man it's tough it was dope though for a minute it was dope for a minute whatever fuck it that's it um yeah and also they can find you at the gym yeah you can find me at zoo culture you're always there i'm always there i wish my haters would pull up on me man you wish what my haters would pull up no no one's pulling up on you i would love for them to pull up on me we'll take some pictures we'll have some nice talks we'll go to lunch you're gonna go to lunch with them you can have my social security number yo i was no sit back down you went to lunch yesterday and you did not take me

yo really really just because i'm right you're going to walk out bye guys love you love you Thank you. Thank you.