RAWTALK - Sauce Walka Vs. Drake, J. Cole & Kendrick: Who's the Best Rapper?

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Sauce Walka & talks about why he's a better lyricist than Drake, J Cole & Kendrick Lamar & much more! Hope you guys enjoy, see you next Tuesday! Sponsored by: BetterHelpUse code "RAWTALK" at https://www.betterhelp.com/RAWTALK & get on your way to being your best self!

My dad was about to live, was about to build a two-touch. Really? Yeah, my dad is bigger to you. That's sick. Are there pictures anywhere? Yeah. I want to see that. Whoa, what the fuck is that him?

Nah, that's how I said you. No. No. Bro, what the fuck? Whoa, this is crazy. No, yeah. You know how he's 100% real? He did this back in the day when no one does.

did this. When they couldn't do this shit. No one did this shit. That's why I wanted to. Look at my dad. Holy shit. No, there was no steroid, T.R. Bro, I'm tripping right now.

My dad, him, natural, real Natty. Nah, he's on some gear. Oh, I promised my daddy and Natty. No, he's on gear. My dad is Natty. I'm raising this shit. Bro. All about this shit.

My daddy does, natural genetics. How much did he weigh? How much did he weigh? Uh. Because he looks huge. He was a beast. My dad is like six, five, six, six. six, three and

what the fuck? Nah, he's about $3.50. Wait, why are you so short? Because my mom is 5'2. Oh, so I just came right in the middle at 510, no 510, 5.10, 5 11.

And they played you on the high, 6, 5? I got all the other blessings. I got all the other mandigo blessings. So I'm not chipping. I'm muscular, genetic, strong. Let's go, let's go. Fizek. So, so, wait a second.

This is you really true. You threw me the fuck off with your dad. For my daddy, this is in like the, is it the 80s? 90s. Early 90s. Early 90s. So how come you're not like massive gym bro? I'm very athletic.

I box. I lift weights. Why you're not a bodybuilder, more specifically? Because he's a real ass bodybuilder. Yeah, well, my dad was a bodybuilder and a rest of them. For me, you know what I'm saying? I always, I respect to having a, a massive muscular physique,

but I like to fight a lot and I like to be elusive. I like to put my arms. I'm also into martial arts and ninja shit and shit like this. So I felt like to be more agile and the clothes. I like fashion.

I'm in the street shit. I'm in a lot of other things outside of physical appearance. And I know I look damn good enough to get any woman that I want, regardless of my whole life. I've been blessed by the best to take all of the rest.

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You guys are looking to change your body, change your life. Feel better, look better, be stronger. Whatever it is, go to Bradleymartin.com. Let's get back into this podcast. Okay. So if you had to pick one rapper out of all the rappers to fight, like whatever, if it's not beef or not, It doesn't matter if it's real, it doesn't matter. Like, who would you want to fight?

I mean, honestly, like, I will fight any rapper. It's a few rappers that I'm going to spar and box, like, you know what I'm saying? Actually? Yeah, yeah, like, on camera and shit like that. Some, I try to fight off camera or we just sport. Like, I got gloves. My partner, to tell you, I came my head with, like, buy some gloves. Like, you know, I went to the penitension and shit like that.

So, like, I used to, like, fight dudes your size, like, every day to watch TV and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? How long are you in a pen for? Three years. For what? It's a few different things. Gang violence, gang violence, shit like that. How'd you not get caught up to stay in it?

Because most people get caught up and they stay in it. Honestly, I'm a person that always just knew both sides of the spectrum. You know, I had the blessings and life to experience what it's like to live in the suburb. suburbs, but also being born and raised in the ghettos and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I was born in that, but then I also had, um, different periods of time where I was able to experience what it's like to live in a Nickelodeon-style neighborhood, a Disney-filling style neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? How does that happen, though? How do you do both? I don't get it. You do both when you have certain family members that are more financially fortunate than others. So, therefore, you might have a mother or a father that lives in the hood or live in a ghetto,

but you might have an auntie or an uncle or a grandparent that made some of the right decisions and they live in a better neighborhood. And your parent may have a good enough relationship with them up until they get their sales into a financial state to move out the hood. They may say, well, I'm going to go ahead. you stay at your auntie or your granite house and I'm going to get you to go to school up under their jurisdiction and the neighborhood in the area they are to give you a better opportunity of education and stuff like that. So it's like you have an opportunity. Houston is a very

diverse city where everything is like very mixed mix. So I got to see the fruits and the abilities of if you do make it to be successful and you know what I'm saying, make the right decisions to stay free, stay out of jail and not you just completely. to throw your life away to the streets and to gang violence and stuff. There's like first nature, not even second nature, for me and where I came from. It's like, I said, okay, that's possible. I was just one of the people who saw these things, like when we used to be kids that we play bingo with nice cars driving around or we see nice big houses and obviously we're from Texas.

So like real estate, the real estate margin is way different than California or New York or Florida. So I've always known what it was like to have a big house or see what big house. see what big houses were, mansions were. So it's like everything always seemed obtainable to me, even though I was from the ghetto. I was from nothing. It still seemed possible to be accomplished. And my father was, as you see,

my father was a very aspired man. Like, he did a lot of great things. He almost made it all the way to the top, but he didn't just, you know, crack through the surface as being like a full superstar athlete entertainer. But again, I had glimpses. In the wrestling space?

Yeah, in the wrestling space. In the wrestling space. Football-wise, he was in the AFL for a little, like, a season. You know, that shit got shut down. He used to play for the team called Houston Gamblers. I don't know if you're familiar with that league. But, yeah, that shit got shut down, and he ended up being a security guard.

Like, the majority of my life, my dad was a security guard in clubs and stuff. But, again, like, I was able to see both sides of the spectrum, and I was able to, you know, make my decision, like, okay, I love what I'm from and I love what I am and I love my family and brothers who share this lifestyle and this mentality and way of thinking, but I got a, I'm the chosen one that's going to get us out of this and I understand it's certain responsibilities and sacrifices that I have to make and choices that I have to pick that leads towards the direction of prosperity and staying safe and staying out of jail and not being in the wrong place.

is at the wrong time, I'm constantly indulging myself in criminal activity or where around criminal activity is constantly going on if I want to achieve my goal, if I really want to achieve, you know, the status that I, that I, back then I plan to have it, but now I've reached that plateau. And, you know, it's just a choice you got to make. It's just something that you have to stand firm on to know that you just, you know, you want to just diversify your destination, like, from where you support, what people think this is where you're supposed to end up at, but you take yourself somewhere different.

Yeah, so I want to talk about that specifically. Why do you think people end up staying in shit they know that they really shouldn't stay in? Like, why do you think they, how do people get stuck in that sort of life? Because, like, obviously, there's people always make it out. You've made it out in a sense. Well, you, I mean, you got to think about it like this. It's 2024. We live in at the peak evolution and merge, like, it's being added together and put together more than any other time the utilizingness of,

electronics and you know what I'm saying? Technology just period like AI it's just this it's this massive conscious a growth

right now with technology right but then you still got people that live in the motherfucker Aztec mountains and eat food and hunt every day

and don't use electronics and still live in TPs and shit like that because systematically this is all they know that this is what they think their life is They think life is to live as a nomad or a person that's a farmer or some, some shit like that.

There's not a rich farmer with a bunch of land, a bunch of acres of land and a bunch of produce and a bunch of fucking chickens and shit that they said and it's making them a bunch of money, but you still was born in the farm and Gatorland. And you live as, you know, like a nomad person. There's struggles and stuff that come with that. It's the same thing with being from the ghetto or being from the hood. Yeah, there's problems and there's negativity, but there's also the beauty of the struggle as well. It's also a lot of fun.

It's also a lot of excitement, a lot of thrill, you know, the women, the music, the nostalgia of the hustle of making money through the avenues that people choose in the streets to make money. That's a rush for people like gambling. You tell something, well, a person gamble, they, they 4-1K or gamble with, they've accumulated from having this business for 15 years, gamble that away on a sport or gamble it on something that's just a bet that another person will wager for shit, for shits for laughs. But to this person, you're a fucking idiot. I would never lose my wife or give up the things that I worked so hard and went to college or whatever you didn't like to have in the idea of the hope.

that I could win on a chance of choice, but I could lose it all in 30 minutes if the scoreboard is not what it's supposed to be. And when a person is financially fortunate or a successful businessman, you see somebody that you just knew the other day was doing very well. But now he lost all of his things that he had in his family. He's going through bankruptcy, alimony, wife, all this stuff, but this is all because he has a gambling addiction and the drinking addiction. He's no different than somebody that's from the hood that just love the shit that come with the streets. It's like, it sound crazy, but, you know.

I understand. I understand. But it seems like people kind of at this point, like, are always trying to get out, but end up getting stuck. Yeah. Just because of that sort of addiction to that lifestyle, the things that are there, the opportunities that they feel like they could benefit from. Yeah.

And it's, I mean, you know, it's also. illusion and I mean it has a reality to it but it's again the reality is it's good and bad but again it's a big illusion that if you are a person that's able to be a somebody in a world full of nobodies and have the ability to convert over from just being a broke person that we see every day in the hood that shares the same struggles as us to now you have money and you have opportunities and you have power when people and people see you still chose to be in the hood and be around these surroundings but you have more than us you're in a different tax bracket or just different financial status standpoint than everybody else when they see you still choose to be in the

hood and be in the ghetto that's like a glory that's like a viking or something going to kill a dragon and come back to the fucking shit with the head that we'll pull up to the castle. You see what I'm saying? So when you're able to do that, it's just a different type of inspiration and motivation that fuels the people that's in the hoods and shit like, okay, I could be the biggest D-boy

from down the block and come back in a big cutlist supreme or escalade Cadillac or I could be the kid that could have been a hustler and I ended up being a football player, basketball player as professional athlete and I choose to periodically come back here and there and help and rehabilitate and buy shit or I could be the person that goes to be a lawyer or a doctor or a fucking police officer or a real estate agent. But those options in our everyday reality, those are the least feasible, least realistic choices for most people because most of those job descriptions and choices, they take a lot of support from family and friends

and systems and, you know what I mean? Like it takes a lot of support to take your health right and your athleticism right and your training right if you want to choose to be an athlete or to take your studies right, have the right books, have the right teachers, have the right, you know, just different events or, you know, workshops that your parents put you in with different people of expertise that know these different skillsets that will make a person more sufficient or efficient rather in making business choices outside of the normal people that people think is possible that's like like the the shit this seems like so grass there's such a grasp for everyday people is not you know what's in reality

like you know what I'm saying you saying in those certain communities yeah in those communities like middle of America down, but really like, you know, the bottom, the start of middle of America and down. Yeah. And, you know, like, with inflation and shit, the way shit going right now. Bro, what the fuck. Money ain't even money that it used to be anymore. Not even close.

Not exactly. When I try to tell people that, they think I'd be, like, bullshit or, like, exaggerating or that. They, like, I'm thinking I'm, like, on the high horse or something. Like, I had made a tweet once, and then went viral, like, on Say Cheese TV, and shade room and stuff like that. And I was like, a million dollars is now

the new $100,000. If you think that you have $100,000 and you rich or doing well, you got another thing coming, you're not even close. Because in reality, like the value, yes, you can change your life

with a million dollars and you can do immense of great things with a million. Well, a million pretty much equals like 600,000. Right. Just so everyone's clear on that. Thank you. And that's the part that nobody wants to like acknowledge. Yeah.

Once you make a couple of investments, have a little fun, take care of some other people's hardships in their life that you love, mother, cousin, brother. That shit's gone. I know. I've been there. I've been there. My first million was like, I was like,

upped around. I was like, what the fuck I'm broke? Exactly. I could really have a million and go back to 20,000. This is possible? Yeah. And then this, but everybody's still looking at you. you like yeah yeah yeah and you have to and it's it's weird i was just talking my mom about this the

other day it's like you have to keep making more it's almost like you feel like you have to keep making more otherwise like right the expenses not even and i never even lived the life that was like crazy as far as like having a bunch of random shit like i never even spent money crazy and i still look and i'm like yo what the fuck like every especially right now everything just costs so damn much like california i don't know if it's a specific california la but it's just, it's insane right now, man. Life's crazy. I don't know how people are fucking surviving in L.A.

Right. Like, they must have, like, four or five people in a fucking house, like, a pre veteran. It's, it's some magical money fountain mountain or something in between these California hills that's just producing an infinite amount of cash flow in California, I get, like. Yo, I had a question about you and money. I saw you did a interview with AK. You were talking about owning publishing. Yes.

Why do you think, like, most. Like, how, okay, for example, T. Payne got on talking about he makes more money streaming social media era than he ever made from music. How, like, how the fuck does that even happen? It's just people are just taking so much from the back end from these artists that they're just like, or they're just signing really shitty deals or they're taking millions up front and earning, like, owning nothing of their actual music? Like, how does someone like T-Pain was massive? Okay, well, for number one, it's, it's two equations that go in. to that, but for number one, funding, artists needing funding is the first, you know what I'm saying, infraction that's ruined a lot of artists' legacies further down in their careers as

far as like having financial stability when things get shaky or things slow down. And that's being, is it that, again, people, especially like hip-hop artists, when the idea that you have of becoming a hip hop artist, a signed professional hip hop artist rather that when you think, okay, I get signed to a major record label. And also, you have to equate that this is in a time period before streaming was streaming. Yeah.

Before the internet that it is today was not the internet that it was then. And so therefore, it's a whole bunch of different ways that artists get paid now to give artists more power that they also didn't have prior to. So I have to give them that on their behalf as well. I still wouldn't have made the decisions that those artists made back then. What decisions were they making do you think that ended up in those? Being signed to major labels instead of being independent.

I've been independent. I've been an independent artist for 10 years. I just now got to a point where I started working with major labels. But it's nothing wrong with working with a major label. But we can get back to that point at a conversation later. But the reason why they do it is because when you compare being a rap artist to a professional athlete and you think I'm signing it to a Fortune 500 major multi-million dollar company.

When I signed to you to give you some projects of music, I'm feeling my mind and heart. I'm supposed to get millions of dollars right now. Or I'm supposed to get at least high level six figures for each installment album that I give you, therefore giving me a million dollars at the millions of dollars an end because you feel like that's what I'm signing to a record like before. But in reality, especially in the prior times in music when you signed to record labels to get those millions of dollars, you have to sell all the equity and all the back-end finances that pays you out as a company from a company standpoint.

It's basically like you selling your company to a private equity firm way before you scaled as a company just because of you have good projected numbers. You have some good projected numbers. before you scale to the point to where you're going to get your true team next value evaluation when you sell you sold it right when you had your first okay so if a record label sees you as an artist back in those days get to a point where you make 300,000 okay we'll give you a two million dollar record deal but this two million dollar record deal just ate up the next 14 million dollars that you make

over the next seven years uh uh not even not even one Not even one for one. It's like you have to pay all that back essentially. Yes, it's a huge loan. It's a huge. So you get what? What was the number? Three million?

Three million? You got to pay back $4 million or $14 million? No, no, no, no, no. So let's say you get a $3 million dollar deal, right? Yeah. Okay, you get a $3 million out of deal. Let's say 1.5 of that is in advance. 1.5 is for marketing and stuff like that.

Yeah. Okay. So the 1.5 that they give to you to go. go in your pocket, you've got your lawyer expenses, all the expenses, whatever you had to get that deal accomplished, then now you get your money. Okay, so that money is for you to live off of and manage and stretch out until you recoup whatever the amount of money that you rack up from the record like we're investing into you. So, but this is your personal side of the money. Then it's another 1.5 which is there, that's their, that's their ceiling where they know. We're not

going to go over this budget. This is what we're going to stay within this range of not to spend over $3 million for this particular artist. So we don't go in the red on the document on the contract. But nine times out of 10, when you start up using this career and start using the record label services, you're going to exceed that record label budget by far. And you already signed within the $3 million amount. So you might do half of that deal. You drop two of the albums. They're doing kind of well. We could project the numbers and see it's going to kind of come back, but it might not come back. But we'll give you another advance right now, but we're still adding on another marketing events. So therefore, you get another 500,000,

another 300,000, that's another million that you owe back. Holy shit. That's a crazy ass business. That is a fucking finesse, dude. It's super finesse. What the fuck? It's the worst loan in the world. And then you also have to think about it like this, from a business standpoint, especially when you're selling like products, you have an assembly line of products, like, you, your physical body doesn't have to be there to make money. So that's why usually if you do sell a piece, a portion of your business to an investment firm or a private equity fund or whatever, a bank, whoever it is that you get the funds from,

you can appoint managers, CEO, COO, product managers, different people in place, or you can working from the phone we're talking about back of T-pain day like before you can do everything on computers and shit so you still making money even if you're not present because you have a product that's being sold

right you have maybe you have a brick of mortar place that people going into and buying things whether it's getting sent by order or they're walking up as an artist if you sold all of your estate to a company

for an advance and you have yet to recruit those advancements then now you only make money when your physical body is present so therefore that means when you want to spend time with the family you can't spend time with the family because that's stopping you from me

you have to tour and you have to physically be present to shake hands and it's like when a wrestler or athlete or a movie star goes on a promo run and they sign an autograph so they sit and doing interviews

or a park or whatever or making appearances they're more or less making an appearance to promote this movie or the sport that they're doing. When you are a rap artist, you're making appearances to get paid and to survive because you sold the money that's getting made off of your movie that's streaming. Will Smith is still making money off of every syndicated TV movie episode that he has around the world. Fresh Presser Bel-Lare is still making him new dollars in 2024 that it was making in 1994.

That's not the same situation for most. rappers that make bad business decisions, so therefore, or they needed a lot of funding in the beginning. So that's why a person like T. Payne is saying, damn, I'm sitting in my house on the couch streaming, making $200,000. I used to have to travel 17 dates across the country or 12 dates across the country to see $200,000 profit. Yeah. That's fucking, that's a, that's a, that's a, it's just a crazy business. It is. The fact that it's lucrative still, but if you, if you understand, you know like selling different products of yourself

but now music is the business too you should make money off of music not just performing it yeah well that's fuck because there is a lot of money being made off the music like a fuck time huge but I see you're saying now obviously it's way different with the ability to like monetize and make products that's what's giving the artist

more part and streaming it internet and social media period apps period applications yeah it's I mean it's changed everything dramatically what other sort of business things do you do? Yeah, I'm like a serial entrepreneur, man. I've done a lot of businesses.

I got... What is the most successful outside of rap? Only fans. What do you do on there? What do you do on there? Manage and damage. Manage and damage. You know what I'm saying?

A lot of bands, a lot of bands off of OnlyFans. But I got a lot of other businesses that I own as well too. I got like by six or seven LSCs. Wait, you actually do that? Do you actually do that? Yeah, I made $10 million off on their fans. Yeah, but like what are you doing on it? Doing COVID.

Same thing that I do with women. No, bro. You're taking fucking bathroom photos and shit? Nah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I ain't on their modeling in this plan. I'm slaying. Are you really? I'm saying. I'm, I ain't model this plan.

I'm slaying. You see what I'm saying? Because there's a lot of men out here in this world. Hey, I can't tell you're trolling. There's a lot of men in this way to give their money to these girls. I'm one of the men in the world that girls pay to get trained

for my personal gain. Wait, wait. Because I was born with the game. You know what I'm saying? Wait, you're dead serious, huh? So serious. Oh my God. That's fucking, that's funny.

Yeah, man. So wait, wait, wait, so Okay, obviously you have your only fans you get paid. So you just said, do. And I managed, I've managed my mom. us as well okay I've done that too but all right then yeah yeah so you get it yeah I get it but but so you get people you get other only fans girls to pay you to like make videos with them and shit

yes for me to feature you pay them I've no no other way around I'm the I'm the I'm the guy I'm the guy that girls pay for slay my whole life you ask about when you swear like you not you you not just trying to sound cool when you dive in to who I am I just trying to sound cool oh no man I'm really the drip guard. How would you come up with that? I'm the kid that did. Let me tell you about it. Louis Vuitton snow boots because I'm looking for snow troops.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, I'm looking for the bunny with the money that ain't being funny. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, I'm smashing and splashing and asking for her cashing. You know what I'm talking about the kid that did, not the kid that did. And the reason why the sauce word was ridden it, I'm all about to pippin, you know. No, shut the fuck up. Yes.

No, shut up, shut up. I'm not buying that bullshit. You said, this guy right here said, some chick gave you 10 grand cash to go to the movie. What movie though? Multiple times. Yes. Multiple times.

Just to go watch the movie and chill with her. Like, just a random chick. Yeah. Like, I want to, like, I want to, okay, think about it like this. What movie? What was the first movie? The first, first movie that girl ever paid me to go watch with her? Yeah.

This is fucking hilarious. First movie there. Um, um, what meant to say I went to go watch that movie? Like, how long ago is this? COVID time? No, this was before COVID. When you're talking about girls paying me to take her in the movies, man, this way before COVID-19.

You know what I'm saying? I've been getting paid to be handsome. When you're handsome, she will pay the ransom. But girls nowadays don't want to pay shit, bro. And tell me the alpha male that understands his value like a woman understands hers. Oh, my God, dude. They don't want to pay shit these days, dude. They pay you to go to movies.

bro. You crazy. It's here. When's the last time? They're going to pay for my plea yesterday. Shut the fuck up, bro. You're so capping. All right.

When this video drop, when this video dropped, the comments are going to inform you who I am and what I have accomplished. Yesterday, what movie? No, no, no. Yesterday, I just got paid for some other things that she just wanted, you know, conversation. You know, I'm kind of like a life coach and a conky bond. Life coach, you're like, this is what you do to get rich. Here's my dick. Is that what you do?

Type shit. Is that what you do? Because girls do it while I can't. Bro. Girls do it while I can. I know the value of myself. And it's a lot of men out here who just share themselves with anybody. I don't share myself with anybody.

I share myself with the women that are deserving. Real shit. I'm not training this hard. Hey, look here, you go to the gym every day. You're lifting all this hard-ass motherfucking weight. You're stressing your eyes popping out. You motherfucker died and right You're trying to get your abs and your triceps

And shoulder blades To be all structuring this shit And then you gotta go by creatine And all this shit to make your spleen And then you have to perform in the bed This is what people don't think about this too It's men in the world with sex Like you ever thought about like

Like now you got two different times Man you have men that suck And have no sexual performance You have man that's really that But when you're a man that's really that And you actually making A statement It's work. It's work.

work. She's not doing anything. She is getting pleasure. She's laying on her back and just enjoying a ride. I'm the roller coaster. I've never seen Asterold or Six Flags pay you to come there. You got to pay to ride this roller coaster. I'm dead serious. For real. It's hard to have endurance. So you're a prostitute? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's no, no, no, no, no, no. But she can't buy. She cared by because I'm not free. You know what I'm saying because as a man I respect it, I respect it. As a man you understand, it's the thing about this. It's so many men that's out here getting tricked for the stick. I don't want to be with those guys. You're different.

Because in reality, these women don't even like these guys. They look at these guys as a sponsor. Oh, man. I don't want to be a sponsor. I don't want to be the guy that the girls laugh about when they sit in the corner like, yeah, girl, he thinks she's this,

to that, man, I just want him to give me some new shoes and take me out of dinner because I can't afford nothing but jack in the box. But this guy right here with these big shoulders in this nice suit is going to fly me to fucking Jamaica because I have on a Walmart dress and my booty's nice and my thighs are. No, I'm not that, bro, because why I had beautiful girls and nice look at women. When I was in middle school and high school, I was, we, I was having the most beautiful, the girls that the jocks had and the star quarterback had, we had those girls, man. They couldn't get them back from us. So when that we become men, when did it turn that as a man, I have to pay for the same thing, you was giving us in high school, and in college,

when did it change? Oh, that's what's going down. I'm not with those guys. You're not all, baby. Better fact, that's what you do. That's how I go. I'm going to do that, too. Better fact, let's get my best of me fun going. I've got some dreams and things that I want to do.

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Yeah, I have a company called Potenza Watercraft. I make like futuristic yachts and, you know, the jet cars, that people drive the ones that look like Lamborghinis and Lamborens. Oh, on the water. On the water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I own a manufacturing company for that in Florida. That's how I met my business partner Ryan out here.

I was trying to get him to invest into that company that I have going out in Florida in Brickle. And we end up just like getting real close and kicking. kicking it off on, like, other business investments and stuff. Yeah. And I'm, right now I'm getting into, like, sports equipment, like, rehabilitation devices and stuff to, like, help athletes heal. And, like, because, like, it's not even just athletes, entertainers. I'm, I mean, I have my own water.

I have my own water, alkaline water with exotic pop. It's called sauce water. I got a lot of different products, bro. I have my own studio. I have two different studios. In L.A.? No, I have one studio on Houston, Texas, the sauce water. factory studio i have one in houston i have another one in um um miami and brickel um how do you manage

all of it obviously is not just you yeah i own a corporation yeah to yourself the sauce factory the sauce familiar i own like a whole incorporated business you hire managers and shit like yeah i got managers product managers uh fucking uh i got a whole staff a whole back office how do you know how do you know when you have a good partner because it's like there's i've been in situations where I'm like, oh, so many times we've been fucked over. How do you know, like, what's your cue? Well, for number one, it's like you have to find out what attributes do a person have and then what are their personal, true goals and attempts for themselves?

And then, see, you have to test people. You have to put people through a series of tests to, like, see. And, like, what is their breaking point? What is the point that will pull out their true. characteristics when nobody is looking. Is this a person that will steal if I don't give them something every time they ask for it? Is this the person that will start treating me differently and ungenuinely now because they feel that we have a disagreement or because I may have a task or a job for them that

I believe that we should do that they might not agree with, but I may have a little more say-so in a situation or even if it's a situation where I may not have the more say-so, but But I'm just trying to experiment with something. And I just need your support. I'm trying to give you the opportunity to be a part of this experiment that could go to be something big. And then you give a bunch of negativity or a bunch of hatred or a bunch of rebuttal or pushback instead of trying to figure it out with me.

But still being honest, still not being a yes man. I don't fuck with yes man at all. Or women, you know what I'm saying? or like putting people in situations where you see that are you able to take constructive criticism or discipline with being within my company? Like the thing I was telling you about off camera that I respect you about how you was able to have that physical confrontation with whatever the bar guys, Logan, yeah, with Logan. But how you was able to do that as men instead have a mutual conversation after the fact

And everything is not to be dealt with through violence or physical altercations, but just knowing that maybe we may have to have an aggressive conversation that don't get physical. I come from Texas. I'm from a place where people don't mind hashing out their issues verbally or physically, but still getting back to whatever our original goal and plan was. So I just merge that with my business. module and like okay

if for if I'm because if I don't I don't believe in the same when people say business is not personal never keep it don't do keep it personal or family I forgot what it is but I don't believe

in that I believe you should only do business with people that you consider family I believe that family like like a lot of people say that blood makes you family no family is by relationships not by blood and DNA it's about who you relate to, which blood and DNA, of course, we're not idiots here. But you know what I'm getting

at. The relationships and the things that you can conquer and the knowledge that you can get into just accomplishments and experiences that you can make with people that have like minds as you or that inspire to do something that you're doing or vice versa. And then we could go out and go on missions together and take risks and chances together to achieve you end up spending more time with those people than you spend with your family because we're trying to accomplish something to take care of our families.

So, but then that other element comes in where when it gets, what is it, a doggy dog or it gets to you over me or your family over my family because something weird or, you know, a fork is coming a road in the business. Now you're thinking about your personal interest over your partner's personal interest

because you don't look at that person as family. It's just like a woman that's in a relationship with a man and she has a manager at a job that's her boss. Your boss will correct you or put you in your place or tell you don't do this or you're going to get fired and not come back and you're going, yes, sir, no ma'am, and I do that. But then your husband that you love every day

or tell you the same indifference that you, a woman to fight and go against him because your connection with this person and your sense of value with this person is only emotional. It has nothing to do with the logistics of stability and taking care of your kids or remaining in good status and good state

with the business that y'all have accumulated and bring together by even as you, y'all just a system of he's the hard-working man that makes the money but you keep the family straight, You keep the finances in order. You deal with the taxes and the CPA and stuff like that. They deal with the wife. Whatever it is, it's the teamwork that makes the dream work.

And a lot of people lose out on that by trying to do business with people that they only look at his business. So then when they get real, I hate this word, but you slim them out. You back doing them, the person that was good to you. But if we're family, it's like, even when we're doing business, I'm still thinking about your kids. I'm thinking about your people, your brothers, people that I have became friends with from us doing business.

So now my intentions is pure. Everybody's intentions is pure because we have a family part. I think, sorry, interrupted. I think it's also different nowadays just because, and also maybe specifically in what you do and even what I do, it's way harder to have that same sentiment of like not mixing, what you were saying was like not mixing business and friendship. Right, right, right.

Because it's not the same sort of business. It's very, like, it moves way differently. It's not like I own a massive company, and I'm not going to hire someone who's a friend or some shit. Obviously, the goal is to own a giant company, but the spaces that we're in and social media to get there, right? Like, for example, I have a videographer or an editor. I'm going to spend so much of my time with those people.

It is hard to avoid a friendship. Exactly. And, yeah, I see what you're saying. Like, you'd want someone that is going to be able to be in a position when it gets tough to still care just as much as you. you about something. Right. So it is, it's just like way, there's just, I understand what you're, you're getting at.

It's just like a different time. So like, I think for us, it's probably harder to create something to like that degree to grow a business without creating real friendships. Right. But it can get fucked up, man. Like I, I've got, fuck, man. I got stories of people who fucking had nothing worked with me for eight years and did me dirty, so dirty, people that I thought were family.

Right. And it's just like, how the fuck do you spot? that before it before it fucks you okay okay see a quote I wanted to say within that what you're saying was for number one your network is what creates your net worth okay so do you just say your neckwork your no your network because that was fucking no really pause a yo pause a yo yeah that was crazy my bad let me stop because I'm gonna say something crazy to get me in trouble I don't want to get canceled I don't want to get canceled but deep in the heart of Texas you know Just deep and heart of Texas.

Got you, got you. Oh, law. But, yeah, yeah, the way that you network. Network. Yeah, the way that you network. You know, I got a million dollars of diamonds in my mouth. Yeah, yeah. It's hard to talk.

My lips get chipped. Yeah, got you. But your network determines your net worth. And when you bring a conglomerate of people around you, and this, it falls up under the category of entrepreneurs and entertainers, small business, business, before I say that, entertainers and like content creators, but it's really just small business owners, period.

Because think about it, before you incorporate, before you go massive distribution, before you go any of that, when you start your business off, the people that you hire and give positions, they have to be in your personal space as far as where you live at. They have to know where the storage units are. They have to know where the product is being held and being manufactured at. and you have if you don't test the character because you think about it like this obviously you want to savings this matters with business right yeah if you have a better relationship with a person then we could create a better line of credit between each other

with payments and savings on how we do things period how we pay each other what we spend on maybe i can offer you some percentage and you can start investing some of the money you make a beck or go get assets when you do it straight by the regular book those things is kind of out the water so therefore when a person's working with you and you're not putting them through tests or giving them opportunities, then they create that that hatred, that idle devil's time, but still being in your business to where they're like,

okay, well, how can I fuck over this person, but I'm still here now? Because now I got to hear. Why did you give someone all those opportunities and he still fucked you over? See, wait, okay, boom, that's what kick ass come in. Before that signs, when you have a kick-ass relationship, like, see, where I'm from,

like even if you're a construction worker or if you cut grass, like your ball, and the employee will fight with their hands when I see you're not respecting the way that we all trying to get this job done as men. So if I sense or see, or if you're a woman, I'm going to have a certain type of conversation with you

and if you are disrespectful or outright with me, I'm not going to hit you. I'm not going to do nothing to you. I'm going to let my sister or someone out of a woman that I know because it's just like your child or a child that you love. A child will go play with a spider or a venomous animal

or go put their hand in fire, jump in the pool and don't know how to swim until they realize that water would drown you, fire would burn you and an animal can bite you. So if you, yeah, I understand that we're living in a new world of peace and happening and harmonious and equality and all that bullshit, that's fine.

I love, I love this. Yeah, but reality is the human, the human body learns from experience. Yeah. So if I share an experience with you that I'm not going to tolerate certain things within our friendship and I'm willing to

have a physical or verbal uncomfortable I'm okay with going through the uncomfortable moment with you. Ask my business partner as my friend as my

whoever you are in my life I'm willing to go early at the early stage because what people do wrong and I hate to point the guilty stick at you but you saw the signs we all see the signs

and that's what the divine cognitive energy of the universe gives us or whatever your religion is it gives you the intuition to feel the sign so when you feel that sign you are supposed to react to that sign just like when you lifting weights and you feel that oh okay I'm going to max out or I'm going to go to my last four ribs I'm going to push but I'm also going to respect my body because I feel the sign that I'm pressuring out I'm maxing out okay when I see those signs and those persons we're addressing it immediately

let's have this conversation and then this is also again go back to what we were talking about earlier now we're going through the pressure levels of tests how are you going to react to this how are you going to conversate body language or who are you going to tell after we have this

and you might pass this test of us talking about it and mediating but you might leave and go tell other people our business and not posting our business or you might tell other people and that sign tells you okay now you can't see me sick

or you can't see me down bad You can't see me emotionally stressed out of the strut while we're doing business because you would go tell my business to other people that, oh, man, I seen Brian over there in the house and he was on. And then, you know what I mean? That's the sign you're supposed to pick up on that from the other situation. Oh, you talk too much. That's the you talk too much sign.

Oh, this is the you steal sign. Oh, this is the you exaggerate on the numbers of business or what we're trying to do sign. And when you find those things, it's your. choice as the leader of this situation because you are the alpha in your universe, you are the center of your universe, it's your choice to say, okay, I'm going to either cut you off or I am going to help you and teach you through tough love or through understanding why this is wrong or why we not own it or why we're not doing it. And I'm willing to go to these different levels of confrontation or confusion or just gaining understanding with you to show that

we, and that could be done to me as well. Yeah. You have to be transferring and have that on both sides. You can't just be the fucking dictator and conqueror. And then when you do some bullshit or some host shit, you can't get addressed either. That's not a true kingdom or a true king or brother or family member, however you want to be or whatever. CEO, people who are going to live and die and go do whatever for that.

The companies that they live and their CEOs are the ones that understand us as a family, give us benefits, send cars out, go to the retreats. And then we might have shit where we can argue in the back and this happened. And you come tell the boss, I might tell you, you leave for two days and you leave for two days, but y'all are still my guys. I'm not for the fire, y'all. We could come back and talk. Those type of experiences, because you got to think about it, too.

When people do fuck them shit to you, they go to their crew. They go to their family They go to their immediate love So that's why I say The family shit matters Because if I have a relationship With your uncle, granddaddy cousin And you're trying to do some whole shit to me

Your granddad is somebody that you love Gonna correct you guys Man don't do that to Brian Why would you do that to Brian When you know we got all this shit going on And wootoooooooooooooo and you know what I'm saying And you should That's where accountability falls at

Everybody's supposed to have some people You're a bitch-ass person You a bitch-ass person If you don't have people around you That you love and trust that know you no matter whatever going to life financially if all this shit go away these particular people are going to be around me

these people are going to have accountability for me as a person they should if a person don't have accountability you have nothing to be aware as to be alive if you ain't aware you ain't even that's how you can hear by a call so you take people through those series of events

and soon you give a person two to three chances and each chance the penalty is worse than the last one and if we have to go this far then it's unhealthy for us to be around each other and nine since out of ten I'm gonna save my ass

from getting fucked over financially or because you know how I am and I react to certain shit now when you're thinking that whole move you're gonna also think man let me go ahead try to talk to him about how I could do it this way and I'm gonna tell him but I really was down there feeling this way

about this and then I'm down there And then you get to see, oh, damn, you're giving me humidity now. And you would have crossed me, but my actions and my leadership has influenced you to say, make a, it made you change the decision, making the character risks of your prior self before me and you became friends and family. And that is the testaments of a true leader and a true king. And I possess those. And obviously, you're a person that do too, but none of us is perfect. But we're not going to get fucking damaged or get hurt or heavy is the shoulders of the king. who wears the crown.

That's a fact. Had you always looked at these situations like this, like throughout your career and throughout your business stuff? Or is it just kind of like... It's life. You just learned it over time. Man, I've lived many lives. Did anyone really teach you?

Like, do you have any people that you really look to? Honestly, the streets, hip-hop. My dad and anime, like, Goku. Oh, you're in anime? I'm anime God Let's go You can't fucking me with this And nobody

I'm anime lore Really? I'm like anime Jesus Like I thought you were drip God I am drip guy Okay

Which one is Sogoku I'm saucekay My name is Soskay You Chiha Oh my God Saskei drip Chiha

How you been to Japan I have an artist From Hiroshima Japan South White shout out South White My artist TSAB business I have Art of science

To me from all around The country Japan is the dopest I can't wait to go there. It's the greatest place. Man, you saw this man, man. Hold on.

You really about that life? What the fuck? Yeah, this is cool. If you know, you tell me who it is. Wait, wait, what's, what? Hold on. Oh, right, right here, right here. Yeah.

Who is that? Perfect. Wait. This fucking. Perfect sale. Yep. And, wait, who the fuck is this? Aoki from One Piece.

Even do you really have this shit tatted on you? have this shit tatted on you. Now, how long have you had this? Is this new because, like, anime is cooler now? You're not a trendy guy? I'm 90s tattoos. I got Spawn and Zach the Black Power Ranger, fucking cyborg from Teen Titans. Damn, you really?

I'm Afro samurai. Man, I do this shit. Well, you're like, you're like, you're actually, pop culture. No, I was going to say you're really, like, versatile. It's extremely. It's crazy. I'm a martial artist.

I'm not how to use the nunchucks, the samurai. I mean, excuse me, the katana blades, sherikins. What got you into all that shit? At least anime stuff. I mean, you're basically my age. So we're the same genre. Yeah, I'm 34 years old. All right.

Yeah, so, you know what I'm saying? I'm a 90s baby. So I was born in, you know, in my opinion, that was straight dragon ball. The epitome. The epitome of just pop culture is the 90s, to me. So I'll say that When you're from the hood

And you're from the streets And the struggle And my mother was a drug addict You know what I'm saying My mother was a crack addict And an exotic dancer too So like Like I said

I lived a lot of lives Very young My daddy an athlete My mama drug addict And a stripper And pretty as hell So I'm The shit

That people in my community Found entertaining In like movies And television I didn't find it entertaining because this is my real, real, real life. I don't find a New Jack City movie entertaining and seeing black women strung out on drugs and men strung out on drugs and people setting drugs

when my uncle really setting drugs and police kicking in the door, taking my family members to jail, my mama really smoking dope, shooting heroin up her arm. That does not inspire me. That is not entice my mind. It doesn't stimulate me. But then when I see Goku and Virginia, in chunks and all these super beings kicking ass and training and becoming great and having

all these beautiful women and knowledge and then gondom wings I look at a gondom wing suit it's like my rose royces and my maybacks and my my uh my cyber truck shout out to Elon Musk that's why I've seen that cyber truck you seen my cyber truck it's amazing yeah his name is Megatron he came from Cybertron you know what I'm saying his he's the Decepticon yeah so So, like, those things inspired me to be great. And it was fun and something to make in the hood when I used to have to fight and beat up my hud, my niggas and my, like, people that's from my area to, because they want to play 2K in the hood, in the chapel, in the house where we chitting there.

They want to play NBA 2K. I want to play Dragon Ball Z or Nartow. Or they want to watch Netflix or they want to watch Red Box DVD. and I want to watch Cartoon Network Tsunami on right now they're fin to play full middle alchemist I want to type of shit You know what I'm saying?

So like And I used to like really argue with my partners over that shit or they're trying to make fun of me and make jokes of me because like they might be saying the clips of a movie like a good saying from a Friday movie

or a good Mike Epps movie or a fucking see what I'm saying? I get the saying uh-uh when I think about the actors from those movies like Cat Williams I love a cat, but I'm just saying like, I don't be knowing none of the, like,

when they talk a good Tupac movie with Juice and they say a good juice scene, I don't know that because I didn't fucking like that shit, like, but I'm really living there, though. Because it's fantasy to most people. Thank you. Yeah, I get it. It's a fucking fantasy to you.

Of course you think it's cool. Yeah. You see what I'm really going to trial. Like, we're really doing this. You know what I'm saying? It's not fun. It's not cool. And I'm not fucking promoting it.

You see what I'm doing me? It's just, I said, that's why I love to Owee and drip and rhyme and video games and fun. Before we move on topics, top video game of all time. I always say Halo 2. It's been the same age.

Yeah, you know. So top video game. Master Chief, shout out to my nigga Master Chief. Halo 2 is a great one. At the end of Halo 2, that's what made that game so good. The ending, that ending level, driving on the, that's the one, right?

Do we drive on the what hog and go over the job? The job! That she was hard, bro. I destroyed this shit. But I like the multiplayer. That's what I was on. Yeah, yeah. That's what, that's all you little call of duty kids and chumps and dead war zone.

Halo your daddy, it wouldn't be none of that. If it wasn't for Halo, four screen split. A hundred percent. That was the best time. Oh, God. It'll never be like that again. Man, best game of all time, bro, is so hard because I'm a lover. of so many genres of games

and like sports games is like the end for me. So I would have to say I'm gonna just do two I'm gonna just do two of the brackets that I love. I'm gonna do four. I never got into sports games.

Yeah, me neither, me neither, me neither. Besides the boxing fighting games you have to see shit like that. Okay, best fighting game of all time. Best fighting game of all time. Okay. Okay, I'm gonna do one v. one, best fighting gang of all time is street fighter, dude. Ticken, fucking, ticking, Ticken.

Ticken is this best one V one fighting gang in all time. Shout out to Wunong. And I love all fighting games. And it's so, well, what I'm saying, one V one, we're saying street fighter, motor combat, a Final Fantasy I mean Fighter Fury Whatever that shit

Whatever the game that Terry Bogart Whatever game that Terry Bogart in Y'all know what I'm talking about All of those games Okay then The best Story mode game Devil May Cry

Devil May Cry D'Undte Virgil Like That's better than God of War better than all the games that's like that I love Kingdom Hearts

I love Kingdom Hearts I love Kingdom Hearts I would kind of say between Kingdom Hearts and Final Fan of the Seas those are the best RPG games but I hate RPG games that's not free form

where you can play you could choose between the two I hate turnbase I don't want I hate games to only be turn base I want live action and give me an option to do turnbase but I would

give those that and then the best like 3D party game like we use Marvel versus Capcom 100% yeah that's the one yeah Marv versus Capcom is the best 3V3 but honorable mission is like Power Stone from

Dreamcast great honorable mission yeah you play Dreamcast yeah like I'm a real gamer I don't care what was going on in the streets on the south side of Houston sipping drink and DJ screw chopping blades like video games and fighting, warrior shit, that's always been me.

But, like, yeah, they just inspired me to do other stuff, man. I've just been different. That's what kind of, like, brought me into, like, doing these different products with different businesses that I've been working on, like, with my partner right here, Ryan, Kane, I got invested with him into this business called Achilles for warriors of myself, like people that, like martial arts, people that are entertainers, rappers, performing out on stage and not do boring stage sets, like actually dance or jumping to the crowds,

jumping our stage, doing back flips. You've got to get Chris Brown one of those. Chris Brown, flips and shit. You know what I'm saying? Football players, basketball players, boxers, as just people who are exciting, moving bodies that want to stay young. I want to stay young forever.

I don't never want to be obese or, like, even on my fitness journey, you know what I'm going to make sure that I stay a certain weight where when I get older I can still manage my weight and when I do take it serious and as I get older because I'm not going to never get out of shape.

But with the Achilles product because I had a brother that played football so when this product was given to me and it was brought to the table I'm like oh yeah this makes all the sense in the world because my brother had told his Achilles tendons and both of his legs he was a runnerback

he told his Achilles a tennis in both of his legs, and he also fractured his calf muscle. I mean, he ruptured his calf muscle, whatever that, the tenant is within the calf muscle, he tore that too. So he tore that both of these. Like on the sides? Yeah, like one of the perennials. Yeah, I think that's what the car.

He had to get some, right here in his calf muscle. My brother got stitches in his calf muscle from the procedure, and both of his Achilles tendons, he got to get down. I never forget that. My brother was a running back. and the rehabilitation time for both legs

and I remember this because I didn't play football but I used to hear they say that when you do rehabilitate from a touring ACL

that's what he had he had that's what he had he had the Achilles and the ACL but they said oh this is

right here but when you tell your ACL they're like when it healed it'd be stronger than it was the first time

before you told that's what they told my brother he ended up getting back to it took like a year and a half for him to get back together he tore it again yeah I heard it's I thought it's never the same it's one of those one of them tennis

I don't know if it's the Achilles or the ACA they say when it heals the comments gonna tell us y'all tell us in the comments one of those when they heal it heals stronger than it was when you break it so but I just seen my brother be a victim of like

you know what I'm saying tan his muscles and shit and then I know friends and rappers and stuff that like fall off stage broke their legs performing. My friend Conway, shout out, you know, Conway the machine, the West Side Gunn, the Grizzleda.

My brother Conway, he was shooting a music video. He jumped off a car and broke his leg. Well, that device looks like what would typically people would use to recover would be like a big bin of rice, put their foot in it and go like this. Yeah. But that's what that reminds me of.

Let me grab this. Yeah, grab it. Kelly, this right here, it's like weight, it's like the band resisted training that people do in the gym, but it's putting 20 bands in one small place and you could put two of these side by side and work your entire lower leg muscle all the way up to the upper inner thigh. And it cuts the downtime of rehabilitation like by weeks, by weeks, half. you're like half so you probably be the uh a football player i'm assuming you could probably use it preemptively too like yeah yeah that's what it's really for is prevention it's really for prevention

like the best thing that when they were teaching me about it and like showing me everything that it does all like oh yeah that makes more sense than anything because why just only use it when it gets bad when you can use this and really focus on this muscle because that's the thing is the most important thing about this is range of motion that's why you have you calisthenics versus hard lifting. Most people that do calisthenics and really good at calisthenics, they have a little bit more full body strength where they can do full muscle ups and full range of motion and it keeps them going much longer. But some of them don't have the same, what is it, the velocity, the push strength that the person that lives wasted. Yeah, same power. Yeah, the same power. But this right here,

though, is like focusing all of that energy into one space where you could be a power of but still get the benefits in your Achilles and your squatting area through doing this band resistant training, preventing yourself from having injury in the lower legs. And I think this is something that for me, because I'm really into boxing

and like running and stuff like that and like your lower, your leg, your power comes from your legs and boxing. Your power comes from your ankles and having footwork, having the agility to maneuver and get out the way. Everything's from the floor up for sure. It's from the flow up.

So why is the product like that? Like this not already one of the biggest things in the world. Why is this already not every in every gym in America or why every athlete, like, how did I never see this on internet? That's what I felt when I seen it. Like yeah, this shit is like some no-branding. Yeah, I see. And then my partner told me the story about the original CEO, like the person that created

this device, he was a collegiate athlete, played football, he was supposed to go real, real far. He was doing very well, but he kept getting Achilles injuries. he wanted to create something to where other athletes want to go to the experience that he went through and lose the opportunity to make it big and um

yeah I mean he was a genius yeah ankle knee injuries or shoulders pretty much end anyone's fucking career those are the worst things yeah so you know no that's cool it looks it looks dumb obviously you stick your foot in it has range of motion around you stick your foot in it and then you do the whole range of motion and I was

just thinking of it like Like, it seemed easy, but when you really just get into it and really get the pushing and shoving, like, you feel it like in parts of your leg that you know. It's kind of like a person that do good forearm exercises with the doze. The rippers and the grippers and shit, like, it gives you a, I think this is like super dope. And I love the story from Greek mythology of Achilles. Yeah.

I know about, like, you know, come on, we end this shit. So, yeah. And I think of that like, damn, this is the water to go get you even stronger. This is like if she dropped them by his piquet toes instead of just only by the Achilles, man, that she only would have them by the toes that the Achilles, old Achilles, man. But yeah, now, this is a real dope product, man. I'm just happy to be a part of the marketing and a part of pushing this product and, you know, helping it convert over to the masses.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's dope. It's dope. So I saw another interview clip where you said that if you were on a song with Jay Nicole Drake. I'm smacking him. And Kendrick.

I'm smacking all of them. I'm smacking them. I'm talking about destruction. You ain't ever see my freestyle from Just Incredible? I don't know. I'm not sure. What kind of hip hop do you like? I mean, I like it all.

I mean, it really depends. It depends. It depends what I'm doing, what I listen to do for sure. Right, right. Okay. Well, whenever you have time, strap yourself up and take a deep dive through the sauce wormhole, man, the music. And you understand why when I make it.

those loud statements, it's never rejected. It's a reason that people critically acclaimed me is one of the best lyricists to ever live, especially the comic. Critically acclaimed is fucking crazy. This is true. You know, it's so funny. We're talking about like the likes of Jay-Z.

Jay-Z tried, he put me on his best songs of the year list to two different years in a row, two or three different years on the row. I was Jay-Z favorite song. favorite songs of the year. And every song that he's ever picked of mine, it's always been a lyrical song. It's never been a clubbanger. Yeah.

So, Swiss beats, like, Kanye West, the Dres, like all the big, like, Buster Rhyms, all the people that are looked at as the pinnacles of lyricism and hip-hop, these are the people that are going up on the Internet and publicly, vocally saying Soss Walker is the one. They're saying they're not me.

Top five rappers. In order. My top five rappers, you're not even going to know them because they're all from Houston. They're all from Houston? Damn, yeah. But except for like two.

My top five rappers is Lil Kiki from Houston. Little Kiki. Second is Fed Pet from Houston

Third Man Okay, I thought somebody from New York And third is like Buster Rines like just as a person And like just as a character

And What a time Yeah Buster like And Buster Buster Buster Rines is like one of the first I think he is the first rap video I ever seen in 1993

Oh, yo, y'all, y'all, y'all, yo. Oh, y'all, y'all. It's like, like, bust around. I always, like, love bust. And then, I always say, like, for me, for my New York influence, it's, like, bus and dipset. You can't pick a person out of the dipset. You guys, like, pick the group.

Okay. So it's, like, dipset, buster. That's New York. Everybody else, the H. Little Kiki, Fat, J. Dob. J-Dog is a, he's like the pain rapper. Jay-Dog is like a Jay-Dog. He's like a Houston, Tupac type rapper,

like a pain rapper struggle. How real is the, you know, like the Houston, I don't know if it's not necessarily a control, but the J. Prince, the Prince family thing. Is that like a, like a barrier to entry? Jay Prince did. Jay Prince, the family, he dead. I'm a Jay Prince too though

I'm a young Jay Prince I'm a Jay Prince of the south side like the south side of the city and this era this era this time what Jay Prince did in his time and what he's accomplished I'm doing that in the city and in the state of Texas right now

Jay Prince is definitely that though he's dead for sure he's really that it's not a folk law I know all the internet stuff going on because you know like it's just crazy to see somebody at his age like get someone involved

and argue and go back or fold people on the internet but don't let the internet antics and stuff for you bro is really one of the most elite gentlemen and figures that this world has ever seen and you know a lot of people have did it but they didn't get away with it you know what I'm saying this guy that he's and I that's a business module that every It's an ongoing process, but I accomplish the same goals and same legacies that the Prince family and the father is established for himself in the state of Texas and Houston. I'm doing the same thing, but I'm a rapper too. So yeah, no, bro.

And I, you know. So they're really like that. Jay Prince, Jay Prince, senior. When he got on the internet, I was like, why? They whole family, the family, but it's because of the father. It's like when I'm, my kids and my, like me and my brothers, like the original crew, me and my brothers, like, what we've done, what we're going to do and what we're doing, it leaves a legacy for my kids.

My kids going to be there, too. It's the same thing with him. His kids got to go and be everything that they wanted to be, but they have to go through the motions. Like, they went through the motions. Like, Houston going to make you go through the motions to earn it. And Houston ain't gonna just give you nothing Just cause of your daddy like you still gotta earn it

So anything that anybody have in Houston They earned it It was all earned all respect is earned And I got the same respect I got the same power I got the same shit You know what I'm saying so yeah I would never let nobody

To think that it's just a game Like none of us is a game It's really like that in Aston All of us But especially the families You know what I mean? Yeah yeah I've just heard so much over the years

Yeah You know what I'm saying? You know, we just meeting each other and getting in tune with each other. But, you know, I created a family with me and my brothers on the south side of Houston is just as powerful

and influential in the state of Texas is the Prince family. What do you do that is completely, obviously the anime shit kind of threw me off, which I love, but what do you do that's completely like left field

that people wouldn't know about you? So like business stuff aside, like rap stuff aside, like, is it something? Anything you do that people would be like, what the fuck? Like, why are you doing that? Like, surfing or some shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I would never expect you to be, like, out surfing. Man, I'm, I do any. I do anything. Like, can you actually snowboard? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a person that could just do, like, down there anything. I'm a multi-talentative type of person. I'm just, I'm athletic.

I just do anything. But to think of something that I do that people wouldn't know that I do a thing that I do that I like to do, listen to, I like to listen to like. Don't say Taylor Swift, dude. Fuck no. Fuck no.

No, I like to listen to, um, piano compositions. I like to, I like to listen to like symphonies and, like, piano compositions and stuff like this sometimes. But I like to have them like, slow down, though. I like, I get, I send them to, like,

D.Js and stuff, like, friends that I have, and I have them like screw it up like I listen to the music. And, you know, it just feels boss and rich and plush. Where do you see recently played? What is that shit up? I don't know. Is that a thing on here? I recently played yours and then look.

Look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there, yeah. Look. By y'all. How real is that? Yeah, I'm one of those. I will play that right there and have my DJ with my friends, screw and chop it, like put the Houston sauce on it,

and then ride in one of my soul. super nice cars and just smoke a big blunt and listen to classical classical music screwed and chopped though because it's just it's just a deserving successful feeling why is that so popular because it's just like slowed down it's like it's pulled out it's just right it reminds me of the same like I don't I'm not like a massive fan of it in the same way it's Like, I always, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Houston or Texas. The tire things, the fucking tire thing. Swangers. The swangers and the chop.

I don't get it. Love it. I don't get it. I love swangles more than the old school cars that we used to put them on. I love swangas. I used to them like the only putting them on old school cars. But yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounds like that music was made like for people who are on lean.

I ain't a lie. I was just what I was just going to tell you. Oh, okay. That's what I was just going to say. That's what it's made for. Purple stuff. It's made for the serve, the serve, man. The liquid DNA, the liquid blood flow of Texas

and damning the South in hip-hop. You're seeing USC Taylor Swift with a double cup in the hand before the red pickup cup or whatever the fucking stupid-ass cup's name. Solo Cullo. Solo, whatever. Solo cup, they solo now

because everybody want a double cup. Yeah, in all genres and styles of music. Everybody wants to represent this Texas flavor because of Justin B. it activists for us ruined the culture but salute to Justin up

we fuck with you baby but you fucked us over act wait how when Justin Bieber got caught with the Serb with the twits they fucked us just blew the spot up

it blew the spot up and then they was wearing the activist clothes and shit you got all of these moms and Karen's from middle America my kids price went up price went way up

price went to go up yeah they killed us yeah so do you like lean What? No, like, because it's such a... I'm a drink connoisseur. I don't drink syrup as much as I used to now

because I'm getting older and I'm trying to be more healthy. But serve, lean is the first controlled substance that I ever consumed in my life. I've never drunk alcohol in my life because I'm from Houston, Texas. I've never been drunk.

What? But that's how, but you see how you saying, what? I look at people that get drunk the same way as a person that looks at a person that sips lean. How the fuck do you get drunk?

When you get drunk, I can beat you up. When you get drunk, you lean, same thing? No, bullshit. I know you bullshit. That's a lot. Pills make you go to sleep. Lean don't do that. Lean make you nod off and feel real muscle relax you.

You nod off and get comfortable. No, no. You get smacked. No, no. It's not that serious. It's not that serious. I'm doing that so the camera can see your body feel like this. But if anything happens to where your awareness is something.

Oh, you're popping out of that lean high It's not that strong Oh, it's time to fight Oh, robbery, oh shooting Oh, oh, anything like that Or driving, you never seen A person that's incapacitated Of a sip and sir

But shipping lean Have a drunk driving accident There's no such thing as that It's never been a person A pint of lean Drove from the bar And killed the innocent 13-year-old car

In a car with a mom It doesn't happen It's not that strong And I don't care how much you drink of it But I can drink two bottles of tequila And fucking run to a school bus It's not the same. So what is it like?

What the fuck is that? Oh, that's you? What is it like? I'm actually curious. I've never done it. Yeah. Oh, stop. Lean.

But again, I- He knows I got something to car. Yeah, yeah, but I don't drink it as much as, like, again, we don't drink it as much we used to. We don't promote it. I actually have another product that I created I'm working on right now. I'm not going to talk about it right now. But when they see this video, you know, you know.

Yeah. But anyway, yeah, the first time that I tried lean or that was given to me, it was in 1999. I was nine years old. Wow. And we was on the way to New Orleans for my uncle's wedding. And I was riding with my older relative, my older cousin is y'all, my buzzing, my older cousin. I was riding in the car when he drove me all the way down. to New Orleans.

And as he drove me down, I used to rap as a kid. I've always loved hip hop, rapping, freestyle. And a part of Houston culture, this is getting back to the point of the conversation. You said,

what makes people love the drink? Okay, when you add the slowed-up music right from DJ's crew, then you got the old school Cadillac car with the music bass beating in the trunk, and then you got these exaggerated rims poking out.

That's the setting. Okay, now you got this slowed-up music going. The music they were listening into in Houston, you have hip hop, you got people that rap and write their lyrics and they write every bar that they have. Houston is known for never writing a rap. We freestyle and off the dome every single bar, every single, every single song you ever heard from me serious or freestyle bushing around the eight-time coach is always off the dome. Actually? This man

watched me record songs in 10 minutes. I'm freestyling everything. Brian, shout out the STB, secure the bag records, TSA business. Every song I record, every in life, is freestyle off the dome and that's another reason why I was telling you about earlier when you were saying can I rap better than these other rappers this is why I know I'm at a whole different elite level because I have the skills but I also have the talent I have the gift see I have the gift like a Giannis and a LeBron James I got the physical gift and the attributes and the speed and the jump but I also know all the skills and the moves like Lucidonis and Tim Duckin and Kyrie I'm just I have all of the shit.

But back to the drink and the Houston shit is that freestyling is the centerpiece of our rap culture. So when you sit to serve and you freestyle the songs that we listen to

first, those are freestyles that we're listening to from the rappers from Houston and now inspire us to freestyle like them to imitate what we flatter about. We imitate what we listening to. So that's what taught me

how to rap so good. It's growing up as a kid after the song's done playing and the DJ screwed the DJ that we love, DJ Screw, that's our God, that's our Mac Drey, it's DJ Screw. He would sometimes just leave the beat playing screwed up. Like the first way I heard,

It's a hard not life on us. It's a hard life, like for us. And then he'll bring it back, bring it back, and just keep playing that part of the beat. So now it's no lyrics, but it's just a good part of the beat that you like just playing over and over again. And now that's the part that we were freestyle to.

So I was that young, over-energetic kid that won't a freestyle for five hours, six hours straight with my uncles and shit and, you know, it's entertaining and it's fun but after a while, it's like, all right, this little nigga, this is a little motherfucker did, shut up and go to sleep, man, goddamn, chill out, you know what I'm saying?

So my older relative, he gave me, he pulled up a cup of serve in a big son kiss, he pulled up a three, a good, this was before activists, this is 1999. We were drinking ball, some shit. We were drinking bar, or Al Farmer

Real Purple Dream Before Act He pulled me up A full cup In a um I never forget It was in the

The old school The old school green What was before Texaco The old green store Before Valero The old green boy Green and white stove I forget the name of that

Old Green and White Texas Stow Before Valero You know Make them holes no more. I forget it. But everybody, the comments, y'all know what it is. Give it to us in the comments. But he went to that gas station, got the big slushy cup. Because, you know, we really pulled up a styrofoam cup, double cups. He did, my first cup was sweating. Like,

your cup, not post the sweat. Like, you know how cup prespirate the water outside of it? That's like wasting your lean and shit. Or making your lean watery. First time we said, because we're trying to hurry up and get to my uncle wedding in New Orleans and we're kind of late. He didn't give me a double cup. So I didn't even have a proper cup. I had a proper cup. I had a slushy cup from the, also, maybe it was a seven, I don't think it was a seven level, but it was an all green and white stuff. But anyway, pulled me up in the orange sun kiss, gave me my first sip, and my life was changed.

It's like I went, it's like I went through the Dr. Strange hole when the, when the master sorcerer sent her through the shit, and Dr. Chang, whoa, just sweat it. Yeah, man, sir. But, and I was the kid, and all it did was make me, laugh and freestyle little stuff then I eventually went to sleep then I woke up in the wellness

but I've seen as I grew up in life and it started becoming like more accessible to me that when I compared to two cigarettes to weed alcohol to drink you know what I'm saying hard drugs no I'm not doing no pills no

any hard drugs that's not a player I'm from a city too Houston is about being a player any hard drugs pills coke any shit this we're supposed to be selling if you're doing the shit that we're supposed to like sell to me but it ain't us you a dork, peon, we're beating you up

you get robbed slap that's not right kids don't do that all this stuff we talk we're talking about where we come from and experiences to give you a documentary in the inside of the savage of America. Yes, yes.

You can overcome these things that never have to see these things and get in the gym. This is good. Like me and Brian and work on your physical physique and your dietary supplement plans and gets you some bands. Yeah, that's good.

This is a PSA, it was good. Yeah, but just speaking where I've come from and what we experience in the musical industry. But alcohol is a drug too. And they set it in every store in the world and it's accessible to everybody. And there's a lot of families that give their kid and their son and their nephew and their daughter, their first

drink or their first boo, the first beer. Yeah, about 15 or 14 years old. That's true. So it's the same, same shit. It's just people put it in a different dynamic that gives it a different, you know what saying, real, uh, uh, ambience. So it gives a different opinion. Yeah, different stigma.

Yeah, different stigma. Different stereotype. Different stigma. Yeah. Excuse me, everybody. It's early in the morning right now. And I stayed up real late in the studio to come to do this interview. I'm a little discombobulated with my words.

Speaking of Louisiana. Yeah. Did, did, did Little Wayne get snubbed on the Super Bowl? Yes. But I still think they're going to, I think they're going to put them on there on the performance anyway because why the fuck would, Ken, it's, LaMereyne is one of his favorite rappers. You think he's going to pop out?

For sure, I guarantee you. Like, if they had this shit on pro, if they had it on Kiergo bets, if I could bet on Kiergo Betz. Yeah, I love. You're funny. I'd bet on it too. But there's that whole beef.

There's that whole Drake Beef, Jay-Z, Drake Beef. Who cares? Wayne is at a point in his age and in life to where, bro, this is about the legacy and about the culture. Drake, I love you, but I ain't going to not go on stage with this man.

I mean, at the end of the day, I'm pretty, I mean, I don't know that business, but at the end of the day, Drake is OVO right now. He's still not cash money, like, by the business standpoint, young money. I'm pretty sure Wayne is not currently getting paid or he's not, you know what I mean? It's more of like a salute and respect thing and more like it's still actual business relationship. In my opinion, I don't know. I could be wrong, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. but you know that's that was huge though i just think it's like his hometown is where he's from yeah yeah i think if y'all did like at first what i would have said prior is like well they don't have a history of always putting the big artists that's from that city at the super bowl they don't always do that but in recent years or the year that matters when the rams had superbow in la y'all brought out was that 50s 10 of dr dr dr jane and that was dr dr dr dr right yeah okay so that's what makes it not fair when you do that that's what make it not fair because at New Orleans to

everything is about cultural balance in the world especially with entertainment period no matter what race you are no matter what cultural background you from hometown spirit matters for all of Caucasian white people in America that's from Alabama

Kansas Texas Longhorns they're gonna go to fucking town about their hometown spirit team that they love just as much as anything else is their family same thing for us I love the Texas long horns I got the Houston Texas

I never made a dollar off for Houston Texans football team but it's tattooed on my skin I went through pain and representing it I got the Houston Rockets tattooed on me I don't own that shit Timmy Fatita does

you know what I'm saying but I love that I love the Rockets that's my hometown spirit You ever sit courtside all the time I'm gonna sit the courtside this year when the Rockets

play against the Lakers when Brony and LeBron is on the floor in the game or what i'm going to some lakers games on the flow this year guaranteed and i'm back at the rocket's chilling with all my good rockets friends shout out kiotti jalen green uh my my boy cook uh the i mean brooks whatever his name is my boy's sinner from overseas shooting threes all my good boys over there you're funny bro yeah that what they know i'm entertaining I'm a comedian on the side.

I only rap on the weekends. Really shit. Oh, man. Is your diet good? It's left field question. My diet is great. I really only, right now I'm 80% Presbyterian, 90% Presbyterian. I don't eat, I don't eat, I eat no red meat except for lamb.

Lamb is my guilty pleasure. Why do you avoid red meat? Because I'm not into a protein-based diet right now. And I also believe that I can't trust the red meat. Why? Because they have shit going on like 3D printed meat now. You think they're printing that shit? I don't think every meat is printed,

but the fact that there's the ability to do so. What can't you just print fucking fish too, though? How the fuck can you print fucking red meat? No, you can't. No, you can't. Listen, the textures and the certain things about aquatic food, shellfish and shit, especially with bro i got money on the fucking curigo bats

that they are fucking printing fish in the fucking two years you got imitation crap and you got imitation shit it ain't coming in the shell you can completely see that this is imitation you can't even fake sell the imitation shit in a format that it looks like the real shit with red meat you can with red meat you can flip it twist it and

switch it and switch it and if you think that shit ain't I'm scared I'm scared that's a bunch of shit I'm scared to eat nothing. Then shit. Then I was a person that was enlightened and had another knowledge mixture. Like you used to say,

you just met me and you already said, out your own mouth. You're very, very versed. You're versatile. Like, how do you do all this different shit? Okay, so I've always been knowledgeful. So it's like now with this even more awakening of knowledge and understanding of cognitiveness amongst everybody,

I'm really scared of this shit. Oh, it's the world insane right now. Just saying, I'm scared that I don't want to eat, you know, McDonald's ain't, I don't think the McDonald's is eating today is McDonald's as I grew up and I just, in a place where I got money and I'm doing well and I want to look young forever. It ain't just about thinking everything's fake or not right. It's just, I want to live longer and I want my body to perform at a certain way. I want to always have a certain type of sex drive.

I want to always be able to be able to fight. I want to always be able to perform, run, dress nights, wear any type of clothes that I want or where go to the gym. Like, I can go to the gym and work out with anybody. Nobody in the gym can make me throw up or quit. Like, I've been working. You've seen my dad. I could do it.

No, you can't. You see my daddy. You just seen my daddy. Yeah, but that's your dad. That's not you. You can't. But you think you're going to make me just a shit. And he didn't make me do it.

Well, you're referencing your dad is not in the room that we're training. Man, my brother got my muscles. Let's do it. Let's do it. Whenever you ready. I'm ready. I guarantee you, I'm whatever. I'll do it tomorrow.

Super, super max. I'm not on the same weights But whatever the workout regimen is I would not quit throw up nothing And I'm gonna be still dancing playing Sparring in between sets While everybody chitting in between sets I'm gonna be shadow boxing and shit

I promise you I'm pulling tires I'm nah I got you on legs You're gonna fucking yak I love leg day You're gonna yack bro Don't skip that

I'm one of them want I come from boxing We don't skip leg day Yeah you're yacking Yeah I'm pressed with it We sit on the elevated thing Man, you, uh, is that a kettlebell? Yeah, a kettlebell.

Yeah, what you're talking about? Pick one. What? What you want to do? Grab the X. Huh. Huh. And then lunch.

Huh. And then goddamn me. What? Yeah, my brother said out Rizzo, Rizzo TSF business fitness. Oh, my God. Can't fuck with me. I can't wait. I love this shit.

We're going to set that up. Oh, it's going to be great. We can stream me, too. I promise you. We'll do it live. We'll do it live. And then you can't fake shit. That's fine.

You can't, when we do it, you can't go, you'll edit that out. No, I don't need no edit. I love my bloopers weekend. That's more money. Oh, I'm going to get you. Let's laugh and enjoy this together. When you know you him and you ain't them, I don't care about nobody seeing the bad times. Because when I come out on top, I'm on top.

I'm on top. I'm on top. That's the difference. When you know you're him and you're not them. When you know you're him and you're not them. I love it. Yo, thank you so much for coming out, brother. You're awesome.

I love what you do for the culture, man. Thank you, man. Anything else like, I mean, obviously this, anything else you want to talk about? Shout out to Achilles, shout out the TSF business, my record label, my company that I own. I started from the ground up to Sauce Factory. Go get all my products that I have, my sauce water with exotic pop, the Achilles leg product, TSF clothing, Potenza Watercrafts, my boats, my vapes, wrap vapes. I have a vaporized company called Rap Vapes with like different.

and rap artists and stuff. I just got a lot of things. Favirize what though? Like vapes. Vake pen. It's a vapeen. So it's like tobacco? We do CBD and, but tobacco first.

It's tobacco flavor first, but we also do CBD as well. My album, Sauce Father 2 is out right now. On all platforms. My artist, Peso Peso album is out right now. All platforms, Peso Peso, my Hispanic artist, shout out to Mexican O T, my brother. He was one of the people that also want, Mexican-O-T wanted me to see me and you work

together. I love him. He's so good. Yeah, he's like, bro, I want to see you and Brian work together, bro. Y'all, Bradley. Bradley. Bradley. Bradley. Bradley. Bradley. My bad. Superman. But, uh, yeah, he wanted to see us work together. Yeah, I'm glad I had we got to do. Yo, you got to send me, send me some of the stuff you just mentioned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I promise you. I am. I am. I am. Owee! Subscribe to the channel every Tuesday. I love you guys. See you.