RAWTALK - Saving a cancer patients life, getting sued by Andrew Tate & finding love in the industry
Episode Date: November 19, 2024On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Kazumi & Ryan Pownall & talk the complexities of adult entertainment, whether love is possible within the industry & much more! Spon...sored by: Prize Picks Use code “BRADLEY” Make your first $5 line up & get $50 whether you WIN OR LOSE! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/BRAD Sponsored by: TRANSCEND Use code "RAWTALK" for 15% OFF https://www.Transcendcompany.com/rawtalk
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Yeah, I'm excited.
Bradley Martin.
I used to date a guy who was obsessed with you.
Wow.
Guys are obsessed with you more than girls, it feels like.
Yeah.
Every time I would come up, yeah.
Yeah.
Did you watch Bradley Martin?
I'd be like, no, dude.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Why?
Well, he was just obsessed with you.
Like, he would always go to zoo culture
and he would always just pull up on you.
That must be annoying for you.
You're trying to get a workout in.
at zoo culture, and you got these little rats all over you all every day.
I mean, it's not that bad, but there are weird situations.
Sometimes you're like, what it?
Like, Brad, spot me, you know.
No, no, that's fine.
Like, someone asked me, can you spot me?
Like, whatever for a video, right?
If I'm not busy, yeah, normally for a video.
Yeah.
It's whatever.
But, like, it's weird when, like, people would just show up on some random shit and ask me
for, like, stuff.
I feel like half people at zoo culture don't even work out.
No, they do.
The regulars definitely work out.
Yeah.
There's some people pull up just to, like, see people.
Yeah.
For sure.
And they're not sweating.
No, no.
They might be sweating for a conversation.
Pretend to walk on the treadmill.
They're not sweaty.
We get it.
You got your snap story of Bradley Martin.
Wait, so wait.
So you had you used to get a boyfriend who was obsessed with me?
No, not a boyfriend.
Just this guy I was hooking up with it.
I was obsessed of all things Bradley Martin.
Like he went to all your meet and greets who would always talk about.
You would always be like, did you watch the latest Bradley Martin podcast?
I'd be like, no, bro.
I can't believe dudes are so in love with dudes.
No, that's beautiful.
Like you're a really cool guy, Brad.
And I've been following you forever.
But, like, to stand and go, ooh, Brad, Brad, in a crowd is, it would kill my soul.
You don't have people that are like, oh, my God, Ryan.
Not like Bradley Martin.
Yeah, that's true.
But I've been doing it for so long, too, I think.
I think that's why I have, like, maybe that.
Would you say Jack, people like you more or guys that just haven't even hit the gym?
Oh, that's tough.
That's a good question.
I say both.
Yeah, it's weeners.
I say both, yeah.
Like, just, my audience is literally like 99% on every platform.
Dudes.
Dudes.
Yeah.
Like straight dudes.
on every platform.
That's impressive.
Yeah.
Me too.
You would think it's gross.
It's guys that want to jerk off to the girls I interview.
Yeah.
So it's kind of like this weird thing that dudes jerk off while they watch me, but not to be.
It might be drinking off to you a little bit.
You know, it's couples.
There's, yeah.
Couples watch pillow talk at dinner.
Ask Terry.
We get stopped by couples more than, we watch the show and then we fuck to their porn after dinner.
Oh, like the pillow talk?
So like cancer patient episode?
But they'll jerk off to you, not the cancer guy.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Wait,
so it's not like Adam's show or that you do sleep with the porn.
No, no,
no,
no,
I'm like Ryan's secret of porn.
We've never seen his penis.
Well,
you have.
Yeah.
Hard.
We've seen it soft.
Why?
Wait,
why?
Well,
okay,
we went to a sex party.
We went to like a Hollywood sex party and he pulled his.
Elysian.
Okay,
I know it is.
Yeah.
Father Damon.
Yeah.
Worst guy ever.
Why?
Are we on camera?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
We can say it.
He said fuck porn stars.
their dying terrible breeds
with no dads.
Remember he said that.
You called him out.
Well,
you're politically correct?
Because he's the only one
that stood up.
I've been trying to be woke this year.
Yeah,
you have.
I've been making an attempt.
I don't say,
I say little people.
Yeah.
I'm very respectful.
Well, that's like,
little people is good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't say,
I don't say crackers.
That's like,
hey,
the R word rhymes with schmitard.
Is that one out?
Oh, yeah,
that's an interesting one.
I feel like they,
I feel like they, I feel like they took it back.
We took it back.
We took it back.
Like, because we're retarded?
Well, yeah, we're all a little, we're all a little bit that.
Yeah, we're all a little bit retarded.
Yeah.
I guess like, it's like a spectrum.
It's never okay.
Like, the thing with that word is like, it was just used in such of like, you know, a video game,
guys, guy situation, people kind of like making fun of each other.
And then they were like, no, that's so bad because it's, there's our people who are actually
mentally disabled.
But in no case, would anyone in that circumstance be like to an actual person who's mentally
disabled would be like, you're, right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like schmidget it for a little person.
it hurts more.
Yeah, it does.
You know?
I have no idea.
I mean, I have no idea.
But I just,
have you had a lot of interactions with little people?
Yes.
You said an insane amount of interactions.
I'm like their biggest ally, I'd say.
I think you're like their biggest nemesis.
Their tallest ally?
You know, like I've had like four little people on the show and they're my girls.
And they're hot.
And they're hot.
With like double D boots.
You know, one of them makes $1.5 million a month.
But that's, well, this gets so weird.
Like we get this hot.
It's so weird.
Shout out to Erica.
Yeah, but they look like adult women.
They're just like super like...
Kazumi actually bullies them a little.
No.
Do I think a part of like the lore is that they're like little people.
And doesn't that make it more weird?
Yeah.
I don't think they look like kids.
They look like grown adults.
We can also talk about what?
Bad Baby, right?
She released the OF when she turned, just when she turned 18.
Everyone knew it was coming and she made like millions of dollars.
And it's like, you guys are kind of fucking weird.
Yes.
You guys are weird.
Yeah.
You were like waiting on that.
You were praying on that.
They show me their comments to little people and it's, is it pink?
And I'm like, what is that even?
Oh my God.
Ew, yeah.
Nasty.
What's, what's the, what's the craziest interaction you've had with someone?
Who was like a, who was like a fan?
No, no, no.
No, with the fan.
I love little people.
No, with anyone, with any sort of person who would watch your content and was like,
I feel like, well, I'm like a pretty weird girl.
I like hang out with my fans on a pretty pretty, pretty frequent races.
I do fuck them.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
But I feel like we all do that.
Because Zoom is the easiest celebrity to fuck.
Respectful.
Oh, wow.
That's.
Respectfully.
I have a lot of love to give.
You know?
Like Terry, she hooked my boy producer Terry.
But Terry is cool.
This is crazy.
So you don't, you don't, you don't ever have weird interactions where you're like, why?
I don't think I have much weirder interactions than like the things I already do that are kind of weird.
Like one time I threw a party where I invited all my fans over to a hotel room and I said, like, who wants to fuck me?
And everyone raised their hands.
So I got a pillow with a printed out picture of myself and I put a little flashlight inside
the pillow. And I said, show me how. And they all just ran a train on this, like, little
pillow. And what were you doing? I was just watching. Rating performance.
Wait, way, way, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Wait, wait. So in real life. Yes, I have pictures and
visuals. There are people who fuck fleshlights. Yeah, absolutely. One after another.
They, like, it started off one by one and then it became like a gang bang on this pillow with, like,
a printed out. In real life. Real humans are doing this. Yeah, real people. It wasn't AI.
I don't know if you call them people.
Yeah.
They're sickos.
Wait, you're like, wait, what?
And you were just there, like watching.
You were like, hmm.
Yeah, I was rating performance because the winner got a pair of panties.
What setting was this in?
This was an anime expo convention, but I don't want to make it seem like I'm super fucking weird like that.
Look, bro, what?
I think, well, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's just crazy.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I feel like I meet my fans halfway.
Do either of you ever be like, yo, what am I?
doing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Big time. Yeah. Well, you know what? Okay. Were you at my Halloween party?
I came for like two, two minutes and left. Okay. Why did you leave? It was a lot. And I was just like,
I got to get the fuck out of here. Fair. You're too cool for school. No, no, not at all. I was just like,
I don't know if I look weird. motherfucker's like, people were definitely on like some drugs. People
were definitely on mushrooms. They were like taking pictures. And I was like, am I? What's going on?
Yeah. So it was a lot. So I, we did a 15 person surprise orgy on stage. What does that mean?
So I came out singing
Total Clips of the Heart with Viking Barbie
And then we had Kazumi and 14 others
And black cloaks walk out in a single file
Then on the beat drop
Every now and then I fall up
They ripped the cloaks off
And then they started fucking 15 people on stage
In front of everyone
I wish you saw that
That was really cool
And then the coolest part for me
Was I was Willy Wonka
With my umpalumpas
That was my costume
You had little people with you
Yeah
And they got in
They got in the origin
Well that was a little weird
I was not part of like the little people.
And that's when I thought, what the fuck am I doing?
This is insane.
And the girls liked it though.
They were like, yeah, eat my ass, umpah.
Eat my pussy lupa.
And that's when I thought, okay, my life is kind of fucking insane.
This has gone too far.
Yeah, like where's a lot?
You guys never feel like you sell your souls.
You know what?
We do good things like the cancer episode.
You know, that is like.
What's the cancer episode?
So there's a guy with stage four cancer, Jake Marshall.
And his dream before he died was to meet Kazumi and Nikki Benz.
So we flew him down to come on.
pillow talk, then we surprised them with
Kazumi and Nikki fucking him.
It was a make-a-dick foundation. Wow. Yeah.
Wait, so that guy, so
wait, so he really just got to fuck them. Yeah.
It's his dying wish. Wow. But then we
said we split the OF money with you. It did amazing.
And he got a lot of fucking money.
That got him into special care unit
and it saved his life.
Wait, wait, are you dead serious? He's chilling.
Oh, wow. So then we're like, we're good
people. That way,
that's a, fuck.
You do we do a loop.
Yeah, because I was going to go off and I'm like, wait a sec.
And his mom, like, cried in my arms when I met her.
And that's when I was like, wow, maybe I'm not so fucked up.
Yeah, you deserve like the noble peace.
Just a little fucked up.
Yeah. How do you always been like a little fucked up?
Yeah. Yeah.
What about you?
I feel like I've always been a little bizarre.
Yeah.
But I really would love to study your brain, Ryan.
You too.
No, you.
Because you don't do porn, but you're like so adjacent with like directing us into doing strange acts.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
I can come up.
can't think of an idea for a YouTube video or a skit.
But when it comes to porn, Viking Barbie, she says, Ryan, you're porn rain man.
What does that mean?
Like, I just have, like, I have these weird porn, creative porn ideas.
Does it give you a boner?
Are you just, like, delighted?
No, it does.
It's not a sexual thing for me at all.
It's not a sexual thing.
You know, I'm not horny.
I'm not like, oh.
You cook a thousand influencers with oompa lumpas and it's not horny to you?
No, it's like, wow, this is good entertainment.
It's kind of funny a little bit.
It's like a puppet master.
Yeah.
A puppet master.
You just like what it's like what's the entertainment of it though?
You're just like because it's weird or it's different or?
Okay.
So every six months we have people fuck on the show only.
So twice a year.
So they're rare episodes.
On the show.
So I'm assuming that's on like some paywall platform thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Then we sell that part on OnlyFans.
But we like to create a storyline around it.
So recently we had Dan Dangler bring her grandpa,
Grandpa Wayne, 78 year old guy.
And then I'm like, oh, bring him on the show.
And then we had Jules Blue, fuck him.
And Dan be like, I can't believe you fuck my grandpa in Storm Off.
Like, I like to create these like WWE of porn moments.
Yeah, what the fuck.
If you think about wrestling and porn is not that different.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just, you know, it's storylines.
The fans know it's probably bullshit, but, you know, why do they cry when like Randy Orton breaks is like, it's bullshit?
But the fans just want to believe the storyline.
But the sense are real.
He breaks his leg and the oompa lup is actually eat their ass.
Yeah, sometimes.
It's real.
Do you ever think you'll, like, be like, I got to get out of this and then, like,
try to repent your sins?
Well, okay, so I talk so much shit about porn directors.
Okay.
I'm like, guys, stop zooming in on behind the guy's balls.
What are we doing?
Stop cutting the guy's face.
Tell the guy to shut the fuck up when he's moaning.
You know, I have so many notes.
And then finally, bang.com, porn company said, hey, why don't you direct a scene, Ryan?
Great.
I will.
So I'm doing one scene in a month from now.
And I'm the full control.
So I'm going to be one scene to show everyone
Like I do know what I'm talking about
And I'm kind of nervous about it
But
Wait
But my question is though
Do you ever think at some point
You'll be like yo I gotta stop this shit
Or is it just the money's too good
You're like fuck it
I'm involved in it
You know the thing is
The more deeper you get into the sick shit
The more money you make
And that's where I have to like
You know touch grass
Go see mom and dad have Thanksgiving
And be like okay
I'm a human
You know maybe I'm going too far
for the money or do you do it for like the vibes?
Yeah, the vibes.
Like, I feel like you're like a gooner who would probably just do this regardless of like
if it made you a lot of money or not.
The last one we did was a little far.
We did.
This one I was like, Terry, I think we're losing it, man.
So what is it that you actually are doing?
Okay.
Because I know you do the podcast and you have the conversations great, right?
Yeah.
But what are you doing?
Like, what's the other business outside of that?
So the podcast is the main thing, pillow talk.
And then like I said, we do the, they fuck on it every now and so often.
And that's when we get a little freaky-diki.
So, you know.
So Pillow Talk is is some only fans thing.
No, well, it's supposed to just be a podcast, but I like to keep pushing it.
So recently we had a girl in a wheelchair who's paralyzed tits down.
And we had the grandpa, Dan Dengler, come back on and fuck her paralyzed body.
What?
Yeah, bro.
That's crazy.
And that's one where I looked at Terry and I was like, man, are we going too far, bro?
You want to see?
No.
No.
No.
no it's like a good social experiment because can she feel it so she said if it's seven inches plus
it hits her in the neck oh yeah well good to know but she had to pause us because when she gets
fucked she can't control her bladder and her poop so she's like okay what is it eight minutes all right
nine and a half that's one and then she had to wheel over to the bathroom and put a tube in to
like suck her pee and poop out and then come back and fuck and I was like grandpa does this
bother you and he's like pussy what the fuck dude i mean that's good to know in case that ever
happens to me if ever you're paralyzed yeah yeah in case you ever paralyzed in case that that it's
informational it's educational yeah yeah but so so neither of you are ever like what am i doing
she goes crazy because i stop washing porn completely i can't do it man what do you jerk off to
i don't oh yeah jerk off at all jerk well i guess when you're bradley martin it's like i need to
nut.
It's like Uber Eats for this guy.
Imagine I'm on Uber Eats.
Yeah.
Bradley needs a nut.
And it's like 18 girls and he's like,
no.
You.
No,
no, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you have like a bat signal and they just arrive?
No.
You know what?
You've done such a good job of keeping that private because I would imagine
Bradley Martin's DMs, Bradley Martin's girls in roster.
I don't know anyone you fucked.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
That's kind of beautiful.
It's really good.
You know,
more about who he's fucked than you. And that's backwards. Feels good. Yeah. It feels good.
I guess because I just saw like very early on when I was in the industry, not obviously this
industry, but just social media. I was like, this is going to get messy. Like when you start
involving other people with you. And then now you just put yourself up for like display to get
fucking attack, whether it's, you know, if it doesn't go your way. Do you like the celebrity girls
or like the normies? Do you like the OF girls? Do you do the porn girls here and there? Do you go for
like, are you on a grande?
Imagine?
I mean,
like regular shit, dude.
Like, like, what's the max follower?
Like, do you cut it off?
Like, Emil, you're like, fuck you.
You're, I'm over it.
I don't even know if that would, I wouldn't, I don't even know if I'm like using that as a metric.
Okay.
Yeah.
Respect.
I'm pretty allergic to blue checks.
Like, influencers, I don't like, I don't really like really like really like really
like a regular, regular type of dude.
You know, she sent me a video.
that i should not have which one with a big celebrity oh never mind that happened orgy and i'm
like i should not have this this is a nuclear codes to ruin someone's life that is true i can't
believe you i message it to me you can't say who it is obviously it's one of those things which one was
oh i mean everyone fucks i know but the video was so graphic oh that okay you know didn't say
he did he he let a dude suck him off but it's okay because he didn't look at him or something
I'm like, the what?
Yeah, I heard that on an interview.
Here, let me tell you who fucks more than anyone in the porn business, including Johnny Sins and currently.
Johnny Sins just follow me.
I want him on a podcast.
I want to interview.
He's scared of podcasts.
He hates podcasts.
God damn it, bro.
Yeah.
I get it.
Podcasts are scary.
I'm scared right now.
What are you scared of?
I mean, everything I say is on the internet forever.
It's just like porn.
How can you be scared of a podcast if you've done porn?
Like, that's crazy.
She says because her brain is so fucked.
When I interviewed Autumn Falls, I felt the same way.
She was saying how it was like.
She's, like, nervous.
I'm like, you do porn, though.
Like, what are you nervous though?
Yeah.
I would say the porn is within my comfort zone.
But when I'm on podcast like this, like your fan base is totally different than mine.
So they have a totally different.
Yeah.
Well, I wouldn't even say judging.
They just have a totally different life.
And like, the way their perspective on like the way they approach sex and relationships is just completely different than the way I do.
So like the different experiences sometimes.
She said on my show and it went viral on TikTok that she wants when she dies that we want to eat her.
She wants us to eat her.
I did say that.
And then that, everyone was like, hey, what the, people lost it on that one.
And that's scary.
You know, like, put yourself out there.
To cook, cook, cooked how, though?
I feel like it would be up to, like, everyone's, um, jurisdiction, you know, I feel like I'd be a great, like, stought.
Like, I feel like a pork.
You know how they, like, port, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they roast it, like, and it spins.
Yeah, my motto's all try anything twice.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So would you.
How would you prefer to be prepared?
I think like a little suckling pig would be really cute.
Just impaled on both sides.
Yeah.
Like just die, man.
You were like, hey, remember when you wanted to be cannibalized, Kazumi?
Yeah, I did say that.
Now I feel responsible for making it happen when she does.
This is why I'm scared of podcasts.
Everything you say can and will be held again.
Yeah, whatever though.
But you can't even say that that's a crazy thing.
If you do porn, I'm like, whoa.
Wow.
Porn is nuts, man.
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podcast we hooked up once us yeah yeah one time was it good it was uh i i did my thing on you
i did my thing on you yeah what does that mean i did my thing on you i got i got her a nut
I did my thing on you
I'm not sure if it was like a total
realistic nut but I really appreciated
it. Right. Oh, you faked
it for me? For friendship.
Oh, yeah. How often you think girls fake
orgasamy? I think
maybe like, I don't know, it's actually
pretty easy for me to nut, but there was just kind
of like... That pissed me off. I'm so sorry.
I am lying
and actually I actually came for real. You
faked it? No, I didn't. I was
going like this.
It was just a lot going on. Yeah, there was
30 people there was like oh yeah it was at a party it was it was something that like felt incestual
you know what you did yeah yeah like podcasts make you uncomfortable yeah but this is like my okay
no i get it yeah totally get 30 people sex but podcasts are uncomfortable so i just had sex with
uh eva stong oh wow yeah like 10 minutes ago or like five minutes before and then i come out and
because it would be like wouldn't it be funny if i suck your dick but i wasn't even blue pill ready
and i just had sex so i was limp limp limp and she's like who
cares you'll get hard in my mouth and then there's 30 people watching going get hard get hard get
how are you supposed to get hard that sounds terrible that sounds horrible that's kizumi's like so you're
not going to get hard i'm like this not helping zumi you know you're like my sister a i just nutted
i'm not blue pill ready and there's 30 people cheering yeah can anyone get hard like that i don't think
anyone that sounds terrible yeah so so how so how often you think girls fake it i would say maybe
half the time. I would say half to time. I don't usually fake it unless it's like I like my focus
is just elsewhere like if I'm at a sex party I'm not really trying to come I'm really I'm really doing
it for sport. Yeah. How many bodies can I check? Not even bodies. I'm just trying. I'm just going so
fast. Right. I'm trying to I'm like I'm at a buffet and I'm like eating like you went crazy that you
did like eight dudes that night. Yeah. And I love. Bro what the fuck? She was by the pool then she was on the
pool table. And then she was in the hot tub. Have you never done like sex parties or anything like that? No.
Yeah, they're a different.
Do you, do you never feel, I'm sorry, you never feel terrible about yourself?
No, I don't attach my self-esteem to like sex or like, how'd you remove that?
How'd you do that?
I just wasn't raised to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like have a pretty good self-esteem about myself.
You just don't, you just doesn't even affect you at all.
No.
Has it had it ever?
Not really.
No, I'm pretty like well-adjusted.
Wow.
Yeah.
I can't lie.
It's impressive, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't really attach, like, my self-worth to the sex that I have of other people.
That's fair.
And something about Kazumi is she says, okay, they're getting the Kazumi show.
They get the whole show every time.
She doesn't go lazy.
No, I do definitely get really lazy sometimes.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think you've seen me and I think when you're watching, it activates me.
Okay, fair.
Because I know the homie's watching.
Okay, yeah.
So I'm going to give, like, the whole Cirque to Sillail performance.
Wait, so, you, you like, you don't have sex on camera.
No. So, but you just have sex with random people that are in the industry because you're like in and around the industry.
Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. I date them. I date porn stars too. Yeah. Me and Alina Lopez just broke up.
Again? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. You know, she dumped me and I was like, it was an open relationship and she still dumped me and I just feel so sad like terrible about myself. How do you get dumped in an open relationship? Yeah. It's not like, oh, I really, there's this other guy I met. Like, you can fuck him. She just didn't like me.
Damn, that's tough.
Yeah.
What's wrong with you?
Yeah.
I mean, like, I guess there's a lot.
Okay, she's everything we're aware of.
What happened to?
She has a nine and an 11 year old kid and I didn't want to be their stepdad.
Oh, that's fair.
That's true.
I was like, that's a little next level-y for me.
Yeah, she probably found someone else for that.
Right.
But she did something mean to me because people are all Ryan fumbled, Ryan fumbled, Ryan,
fumbled, Ryan.
Okay.
First week where we really were going at it, she stayed over six.
nights in a row and I just took work off to love that's love beautiful yeah sex sex sex
meals dinner massages sex love and then Saturday morning she says oh I gotta get back to Utah I'm
gonna miss you so much baby this is the best week of my life and she's texting me traffic is so bad
I can't believe I left you home in Utah I'm home and then I go out that night to floor room and she
walks in with Mike Adriano whoa what the fuck that's disrespectful yeah that's actually crazy yeah
why and we were open she just couldn't tell me like because it was the momentum was so good she
didn't even tell me that she wanted to be with another dude and it's even worse that it's mike
adriano because that guy eats shit like literally physically eat shit confirm i don't know don't
pretend you like literal shit he pays girls to shit in a silver ball i don't think that's true
that is it is very true every girl's told me they he was very specific with silver that kind of
threw me off the fact he knew it was a silver ball they get paid double if they watch them eat
it. And here's the craziest part.
Bro, what the fuck? I don't think that's a spoon.
It's not a fork. There's no knife.
That's a spoon.
That's like a long utensil for sure.
That's a true story. And the worst part is he's vegan and he tells all the girls
before they come shit that they have to eat vegan for three days.
And if he tastes it, bro, bro, bro, who is this guy?
He's a legendary porn sir, Mike Adriano.
I don't think you can say that in the public.
Pull this guy up. He's a stunt.
I can pull this guy up, bro.
Yeah.
But don't put, don't turn blur off.
Keep blur on.
I just want to see his face.
Bradley Martin, you know what's the craziest fucking thing?
Is the last two days of the dates with Alina Lopez?
She was eating vegan.
No, I don't want the nuggets.
Let me just get the Caesar salad.
Because she was going to feed you.
She was going to have, yeah, that's crazy.
Because she was prepping for her shit for him.
So this is why podcast scare me.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
There is.
You got to get to a point where you've done so much sick shit that you, you're just like,
I need something sicker.
Yeah.
Is that, is that like, do you feel yourself going down that way?
No, no.
No, do you feel yourself better?
No, I don't think like pleasure is a spectrum.
that gets you farder.
I don't think at one point
I'll be eating shit.
Well, I don't know
because a lot of like rappers
are getting pegged now
and that's fucking weird to me.
No, pegging is chill.
You're G spots in your butt.
You're like missing out on a world
of flavor right now.
I don't know if it's that chill.
You've never had a finger in your butt?
First knuckle.
Okay.
That's like.
You?
Yeah, I've had a figure.
Yeah.
Live a little.
But,
but pegging is way different.
Yeah.
Is it?
It's like,
what the fuck?
Yeah.
It doesn't have to be like a 10 inch dick.
It could just be a little.
But they always do the big ones.
I don't want to feel something.
That's what's weird to me.
No, but I mean, that's basically gay sex.
Right.
It's gay sex if you're getting fucked by a dude.
No, if you're getting fucked by a dick, I don't care if it's fucking, it's an artificial dick.
Whether it's this big or that big, who cares?
So pinkie is fine.
So there's like a size limit where it's like, oh, you're, you're, your gator is like out of this world.
Pegging is an artificial penis.
That's not an artificial penis.
We're talking about like a dildo, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's nuts.
I feel that's nuts.
next level. I agree. That's next level. Like they're probably having sex with dudes as well,
just really on the low. Yes. If they're getting paid. If they're asking to get peg,
they probably are like, finally, I want a hot girl to have like, fuck me. I think it's like, if
it leaks, it's like less bad. I'm like a pegging ally. If it leaks, it's less bad. I think
that's how they look at it. What? They pay hookers, female hookers. Like Nara Ford,
she pegs dudes more than she fucks them. Oh. Yeah. Why do you know this information?
Well, they're a little suss.
He's like, I was doing some research.
Like, how do you know that?
I was doing some market research.
Yeah, you're checking out to see.
Little product knowledge.
It's a little suss, man.
I don't know how I feel about it.
Yeah, I don't also, I've never seen this guy.
Well, he's usually a POV creator.
Yeah, and he's good at it.
He makes good porn.
He looks like that.
What makes good porn?
What's good porn?
Okay.
My favorite porn, to be honest, is Mr. Lucky POV.
Oh, he's a great.
Good porn.
Yeah, it just gets the job done.
I like POV.
I find, like, respect to brothers, God,
I love browsers, but I don't like their point because they film, it's like over in the corner,
they film from back here.
It's like, what am I fucking peeping Tom?
You know, I like POV.
I pretend it's my dick.
I insert myself in the scene.
So Mr. Lucky's got it nailed.
He doesn't fuck around.
You know, directors, he gets so bored.
They're always zooming in on the dick and vad, so close.
That could be my mom and dad.
Show the fucking Autumn Falls face, right?
Show the face.
Yeah, nonstop.
Tell the dude to shut the fuck up.
Shoot it POV like it's me.
All porn should be POV.
Do you think the dick has to look like your dick for you to get off?
Or could it be like a giant like mandingo?
No.
Sorry, that's a stupid question.
I haven't ever watched a black man's porn and it's not a racist thing.
It's just it's not me.
Yeah, I guess he can't relate.
I can't relate.
Yeah.
You don't like, you're, you can't see like Terry's dick and be like, that's me.
Right.
I guess representation.
And when I met the owner of blacked, I was like, okay, is it for black people?
Because I watch white guy porn, not racism.
Just we all insert ourselves.
they said 94% of black buyers are white in cell dudes in their basement like I want to see
get fucking destroyed by all these black cocks Jesus bro which is why it's such a twisted
industry yeah it's so it's so bad for people's actual psyche yeah so you got you guys are
never just like dude like I'm I got to stop this and the money's too good I don't think it's
bad but this is like a different conversation you know I think I'm going to keep pushing and
eventually do something what he just said about those the in-sell people
That sucks. That's bad.
Like, do you feel like it's like rooted in racism or do you feel like there's just something wrong with like cuckoldry and it's like they want to see you in pain and like destroyed?
I don't necessarily think it has to do with that part.
I'm not even talking about the race or anything like that.
It's just like the the desire for something that is, I don't know, maybe in their minds completely unattainable for them in this setting.
And it's just like in my head, I'm just like do something else with your fucking time.
It's like actually benefiting you.
right that that because i i've been i mean when i was younger i would say like my early 20s i was
way more into fucking porn and like masturbating all this shit and then i was like what am i i i just
remember feeling like gross i'm like what am i doing like why is this like it's just like a weird
moment every time you know like when you're that clarity you're like yeah what am i doing
yeah oh yeah you got like mid nut i'm exing out of the porn site yeah like you're like i'm
out of here so it's like you're you're you're just like you're you're sharing this weird i mean
it's very normal energy sexual sexual energy but it's like with a screen yeah
and people that you don't know.
And it's like very strange.
So that thing.
But there's also so many different forms of porn to exist.
Like, of course there's like black porn or like browsers or like POV porn.
But there's a lot of,
but porn crosses so many different genres and like,
you know,
the purpose of why people watch porn can be super neutral as well in terms of entertainment.
Yeah, but I, but I think I love that.
Yeah, yeah.
I told you that fucking browser said,
would they say this?
I mean,
I, well, this is like a funny pod.
But obviously, I'm super pro porn.
For me, creating porn is like a form of my self-expression and what I like to personally
create.
I'm not really trying to, like, play on dynamics that I think are toxic for the world.
I'm just creating what I feel like inspires me.
I just think porn itself is toxic for the world, like, because the user basis.
But I think you could say that about Twitch streaming, about video games, about violent movies.
I think anything within, anything consumed excessively is going to be bad for you and your brain
if you start, like, acting like that towards the real world.
But if you're just existing and you're seeing it as a neutral form of entertainment,
it's not necessarily something that makes the world a worst place.
Yeah.
The difference is between like Twitch streaming and all that kind of stuff is it's like
it's a literal like chemical reaction in your body that can start to feel like a drug response,
like a dopamine release.
Like there is dopamine that releases when you watch, let's say a Twitch streamer and you're like,
aha, that's funny.
You have a little dopamine release.
Like it's more of a natural feeling, right?
But the process of ejaculating is a way different chemical response to your body that like,
oh, I need to do that again.
I need to do that again.
And then you're just creating this cycle
that it's like super unhealthy
and that person is just like
wasting their time and their energy
and their sexual energy on shit
that is like not really for them.
And then they just find themselves
in these weird cycles
and they create these weird parasocial relationships
with like people that they don't know
that they think they're messaging
on fucking Onlyfans,
whatever the fuck it is.
And it's just weird.
So I see what you're saying,
but it's not the same as like,
oh, I'm watching a Twitch streamer
and he's funny and I'm laughing.
I'm watching comedy.
He's funny and I'm laughing.
There's more of that drug response
like sugar.
caffeine, the orgasm, the feeling, like the dopamine releases, they hit way different than like
just watching someone on a stream.
But these parisocial relationships are things that you can also have like, even when
you go have a meet and greet with Chris Brown, you know, when you have a parasycial relationship
with any type of celebrity, whether it's Ariana Grande or Autumn Falls, it's still you, it's
celebrity culture.
You know, when someone is a fan of Bradley Martin, it's not like they necessarily know you as
a person, but it's still the same act.
They might not be coming over your face, but they are still believing that they have a
connection to you and they identify with you in some way.
Yeah, but I'm talking about the act of the masturbation and that dopamine release, it hits
your body way different than just like, I'm watching your content.
I think you're a cool celebrity.
And you think that's different than just having sex?
Like your body knows whether you're masturbating or when you're just versus when you're
just coming.
Absolutely.
I don't know if it knows it to like a great degree, but I would have to look into that more
specifically, but I don't think it's a healthy. I don't think, I mean, you probably ask most
people who do this. I don't think they think it's a healthy thing that they're doing. How we just
both described, we end it. We're like, I get this shit off my screen. You know he knew. I knew. And I
guarantee most people who masturbate. And then they're like, that felt good. Obviously, I want to
do it again because it felt good. But most of them aren't like, I'm great. I'm so happy that
happened. You know what I'm saying? Do you think that's like porn? Or do you think that's just
how people think about sex in general? And that comes from your way. I think it's porn. Because I've
never got done with sex and was like, well, okay, that's a lie. I have, I have been done with
sex and I was like, why did I do this? But more often, way more, like every time almost with
masturbating, I'm like, what am I doing? Not every time with sex and I'm like, what am I doing?
But do you think it's because the porn you're watching is weird for you, like, personally?
No, I think it's just like for just the, the unnaturalness of the fact that I'm looking at a screen.
And I'm like, I got a laugh, you know, you got the laptop fucking sitting on your stomach or whatever
you got your fucking phone in your hand and you're just like the fuck am i doing like right
when i'm done i'm like what the fuck did i just do you don't feel that's i might feel that way about
let's say i had sex with a girl i'm like oh i shouldn't have done that but it was good well you know
whatever it's different than like the you're looking at yourself and you're like who the fuck
am i where i think i'm a fucking nut nut is when i start dirty talking to my screen no that's
out of my mom you got problems bro i'm like oh you fucking like that kiley rocket i'm like shit
he hears me sometimes i'm like where is he in the room
He's editing.
He's in the corner like this.
He's locked in.
He's in the corner.
I'm like, Shay, I'm talking to my screen now.
That's so crazy.
So one thing I really like is live cam porn.
You ever tried it?
No, no.
Like on jerk mate.
So you're one-on-one with the girl.
I rinse them up a little.
I pretend it's like I have to earn it, you know,
even though they'll probably do whatever with me later.
But, you know, I chat with them like,
you're cute, baby.
Can I see your tits?
Okay.
Take it out.
And then you co-masturbate with a real person.
That's beautiful.
Because now you're being time efficient.
You know, you have a girl over.
she's like a really girl that you like it you have to you know wine and diner and all that you
don't have time you're busy locked in five minutes you just jerk off with the with the real human
so that's a really happy medium for me i guess that's efficient for your time specifically
bro it's it's so it's so fun efficiency it's so fucked man yeah yeah yeah you how long you think you
do it for how long you think you'll be involved in it involved in like creating porn yeah i mean as
long as it's fun for me and something I find fulfilling.
You're going gilf.
No, I don't think I'd go gilf.
I feel like right now, though, I'm like exploring different passion projects and different
things of my time.
She's the goat because she's like the one that's mainstream as fuck.
She's the one that's...
Yeah, I don't know.
She's like a creator that does porn to me more than a porn starter that does creation.
Yeah, I do a lot of things, but I feel like I just like creating porn.
She's the best at it.
Oh, thank you.
You're amazing.
Wow.
I can't watch for them.
Yeah.
Why not?
Once I'm friends of them, like...
That's like my bro.
Yeah.
You know?
I mean, I gave him soft head dick once.
I gave her a fake orgadling.
Fuck.
So do you guys like, do you have other sort of goals that you guys outside of obviously the porn shit?
Or is just everything entwined with that?
I do a lot of things outside of porn.
Right now I've been really traveling, but I would really love to get back into TV.
I like went to school for film.
I have a lot of goals and dreams that I wanted to do.
I like just finish the comic book.
Fucking out.
Just do random side projects for me.
A comic book about what?
About just like a, like I made a little comic book for, I want to launch it in Anime Expo.
I don't want to like launch, say too much about it.
It's not, it's not porn related though, right?
It's me related.
It's about me.
It's a comic about me.
So there's like a little bit of porn.
But I think something cool, especially with the way OnlyFans is set up where it's not,
where it's cutting the middleman out is I feel like I've had so much time and freedom
and resources to do like utter passion projects that actually excite me, you know,
whether or not it's a comic book, whether or not it makes money.
or not is kind of irrelevant besides like is it making me happy and is it something
I like to do you know she has a t-shirt after every time someone fucks her that says I just
fuck Kazumi and she gives it to them on their way it says I just fuck Kazumi and all I got was
this dumb t-shirt yeah yeah like I like to just do fun projects she's a legend and I like that
I can do that but so are there other other projects that you want to do and I asked you that
question earlier that that because of the porn background that people are like we're not
we can't do this I think times are changing because almost every girl in the world right now
has an only fans, whether or not it's explicit or not.
So I feel like, you know,
me becoming a large brand identity
has opened more doors than clothes.
You know what?
In movies, almost all our favorite female
movie stars have done a sex scene with their tits out.
And then you have girls that just do lingerie on only fans.
What's really worse?
A blockbuster movie of Julie Roberts
getting fucked as a prostitute or
a bikini pick from Bella Thorne.
It's not, only fan's not that bad.
And for me, I meet these girls
and they're my favorite people on earth,
the porn girls and the porn dudes,
male porn stars are the coolest guys ever.
Yeah, I don't know.
They've become like my family and they really took me in.
So I want to be around these people forever
and I'll never show my dick on cam
because, you know, Ryan Seacrest didn't start singing.
You know what I mean?
I got to keep it.
I like I use it as a ruckin reference point.
It's hilarious.
But I love these people.
So for me, what I want to do is build pillow talk up,
kind of like a bar stool, but a rated R one
and have all these different things and shows
and brands under it.
it. And kind of like a portnoy of a rated R version of. I see. That's kind of what I'm going.
So it would really affect what you want to do. Yeah. Yeah. I just wonder, yeah. I don't know.
I just, it just seems so, I mean, obviously you can't, I can't just sit here and be like,
it's a bad thing and it's going to go away. Like, obviously it's a part of our culture and like
it's an undeniable thing. But what do you think that it's affected, not just porn, but at least
the only fans thing as far as like dating for men? You think it's harder? I feel bad. The, the girl
I'm very close to them and a lot of them are very sad that they tell me they can't find love.
And that breaks their hearts.
So a lot of them quit to go find a boyfriend.
Kazumi, though, is the like one in a million that has the best relationship ever.
Her boyfriend is the sweetest guy.
He cheers her on.
He works for her.
He's amazing.
Yeah, I've been of my partner for five years.
But we were in an open relationship even before I did porn.
So wait, this guy, he's cool with all the stuff that you do.
Oh, yeah.
But we're equally open.
So he's able to be with girls as well.
I've never, like, really identified with monogamy.
It's just something that I'm not interested in or, like, see as important in a relationship.
His name is Reggie.
Everyone in porn is looking for their reggie.
Yeah, he's amazing.
He's the blueprint of a perfect porn boyfriend.
Yeah.
And he's, he's not a cuck eater.
He's just this person that's been very supportive of my career.
But he's allowed to, like, explore his dynamics of other women as well.
Do you take care of him financially?
No, I would say we're pretty much equal now because now he has an, a job in tech.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there definitely was a point where I was the breadwinner for a couple of years, but he's been able to, like, really explore what he actually wants to do. And honestly, in a relationship dynamic, I don't really think, I don't really count that. I don't know. Finances are not like something as important with me when you're like in a long-term relationship. Does that make sense? I don't know if that makes any sense.
Do you think if you didn't have the income that you had, would they be important to you? I was dating my boyfriend before I was Kazumi. And I was dating my boyfriend.
before I did porn, before I got tits, and I feel like the love I have of my partner is completely
irrelevant towards like whether or not I became rich or famous. I think it really helped
because we're able to have really fun experiences together. But at the end of the day,
I think what I'm looking for and what a lot of people in general in life are looking for is
like a support system. Yeah, that's true. It's very true. Is that community or is that
industry supportive, the porn industry? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I feel like all,
the big porn girls have had have like really long term boyfriend and if you ever see them just
quit and leave it's because they're in love most of the time like mea malkova a bella danger
they found a boyfriend and they're they're just so happy but then when they break up that's when
we get the big comeback quite often oh my god we're praying for abella's relationship downfall
kidding shout out to abella oh my god so what's the what's the most fun you've ever had
filming.
Filming?
Yeah.
I feel like the most fun I've ever had filming is when I'm able to really create,
like,
have like,
I'm really able to create my own sexual fantasies and make them come to life in a
really safe place,
you know?
Like, no matter how crazy it is,
whether it's DP or,
or like,
anal,
which isn't that crazy?
I'm able to do it of people who are safe and protected,
and I'm able to do it and get paid for it.
So it's really exciting.
Like,
I have a friend of mine who has a red camera and we used to just,
I used to call them up at like 2 a.m.
And say,
like,
a talent and we could just like shoot something really cool. Like we would just run around LA. We would
like drive around. We would like find places to like shoot a real fun scene in it. And it was just
like really fun moments of my life. Wait, wait. So where could you find a random spot to
film at in LA? Like I mean, you could get a hotel room. But we would do things that we would find
an alleyway and we'd like, you know, find like a fun like weird plot line with it. Like it's just
having fun of it. Oh, that was a big one. She did a with Max, Maximo Garcia? Yeah. We found like
an alleyway. That was pretty crazy. In the rain. Yeah. It was like kind of romantic.
In gigantic in like an insanely rough way.
That's your best scene.
You think so?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was like so out of the blue.
Because girls bring it up a lot to me.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I found an iconic scene for myself.
Yeah, yeah.
How many scenes have you shot?
I think I've self-produced about 200 scenes on my only fans.
And I think I've only done maybe like less than 10 mainstream scenes.
My actual two years in porn is tomorrow.
Wow.
Right?
Yeah.
It's been a lot.
I think I'm in more mainstream scenes than you.
Yeah.
I actually don't do a lot of mainstream scenes.
I did a lot of acting producers.
He's a sexra.
He's an extra on browser scenes for fun.
Wait, what does that mean?
A sexra.
You know, I'll be like an actor in the scene at the beginning.
But he's not having sex.
He's just an extra.
Oh, like you'll come in and be like.
Like the pizza guy, stuff like that.
Oh, okay.
Like where's my wife?
Yeah, yeah, things like that.
Like we just did one.
It was men in black and I have to hold the, we do the thing to the guy's eyes, the cuck.
You know, the cucks are really interesting people, like the real browser's cucks.
Like what?
Hanging out backstage with them before we shoot and they're just like very serious about their cucking craft.
Wait, what?
What can you be serious about with cuss?
He's like, yeah, it's my 12th year.
You know, I'm nominated for best cuck this year at the Expo's Awards.
Is that a real thing?
Yeah, yeah.
No, no.
That's so funny.
I love the cuck.
They're hilarious.
They should get a union.
I don't, I could never understand that.
You know, if I show you the guy, you're like, oh, yeah, this fucking cuck.
You've seen them a thousand of them.
It doesn't make sense.
I don't mind getting cucked.
I don't really have an ego of.
sex. Like, I could watch people have sex and be like, that's cool. Well, it turns you on to
cuck people. I could cook people, but I could be the cuck people and the, like at my party,
the celebrities that state, because it was only supposed to be a two minute 15 person orgy,
surprise everyone. But they went crazy. They went for 30 minutes. And then people crawled
on stage and jumped in. Then it made 20 people. And then Amber Rose was there. And Amber Rose
Hannah Stock, you know, a bunch of people were, and they stayed in tied to all the sign. They
stayed and watched the whole thing. I cucked ember rose. That's kind of cool for me.
personally and they stayed and watched the whole 30 minutes people like it bro oh my god i'm glad
i got out of there because i didn't know what i didn't even know what i was walking into i walked in
and i was like fuck this is crazy i got to get out of here you should have wore a mask or something
maybe you know yeah maybe get bradley out of the party yeah i'm just not a big party guy never
like parties no way ever you don't drink either i i'll have a drink i'll have like a shot on like a
birthday or something like that. I'm just not a big drink guy. Good for you. I like drugs that make me
better. Like what? Adderall? You do Adderall? No. No, no. Like mushrooms. Okay.
Adderall I'm afraid of because stimulants I'm a little bit too sensitive to. But you lock in.
Yeah, but that's why, but that's why avoid like I'm good with caffeine and other stimulants.
But if I do Adderall, I know, I've done it once like when I was first selling personal
trainer. I remember, I will never forget. We went to, I was, they were opening a new gym,
goals gym in West Covina and I was a trainer at like a gym in Fullerton.
And they brought us up to West Covina to sell training.
And I remember my buddy was like, you ever tried this?
And I was like, no, I was like, fuck it.
I'll try it because I was like, I must have been like 23.
And I took it and I was like, I can't even, but I was like, my heart was racing.
I was uncomfortable, but I was like nonstop talking, nonstop, nonstop.
Locked in.
Locked in.
Yeah.
I sold a ton of training.
I did exactly what like I was supposed to do there.
Yeah.
But I was just, I remember feeling like this is too much.
Like if I did this too much, I know that I probably like it too much.
And it, I didn't feel comfortable.
Like my body felt.
like really like over heightened.
Yeah, I'm sober too.
I'm allergic to alcohol.
I can't drink.
Allergic.
Yeah.
So you do all that shit just completely sober.
I feel like it'd be weird to not be sober.
Like wouldn't I like want to like consent to things like fully?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
But like don't a lot of porn stars like they'll smoke weed or they'll do shit.
I mean, I'll do shrooms.
I like to chrooms.
And have sex?
I like to microdose a little bit.
Well, microdosing is different.
I'm not like trying to have like an ego death like on set.
That's crazy.
No, yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
That would be insane to take a.
But I can't do like Adderall or stuff like that.
That'll make me explode.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I get super jittery and nervous.
Yeah, that's what I was described.
I didn't like that.
But most girls in the industry, I offer them a drink and they most don't drink.
I'd say 60, 70% don't drink.
Yeah.
I'm allergic.
I'll die.
They like shrooms.
And then there's like the 5% that just love cocaine.
I feel like that's 100%.
I don't like cocaine.
No, no, it's a very small amount.
But you know who it is.
The Coke girls?
No.
You know, it's like.
Like that group?
Cocaine doesn't make me,
cocaine makes me feel like an exclamation point.
Yeah,
bleak those names.
You know what I mean?
They're like,
it makes me feel like I'm in a wheelchair
and like I'm strapped to the wheelchair
and getting pushed really fast.
Like I'm going to throw up.
When you do Coke?
Yeah,
I do not do Coke.
Right.
I've done it once got the same feeling of the Adderall.
I didn't like it.
It was too much.
I never tried Coke.
I've just done everything else.
Oh, you just have a Coke vibe.
ABC.
What?
Anything but Coke.
Oh, okay.
I thought you did Coke before you came in here.
Yeah.
No, dead ass.
I thought for sure he's tweaking.
No, this is sober.
Damn.
You're completely sober?
Yeah.
No, Addy?
No, not today.
Mondays.
Mondays I do a fuck ton of Adderall and I lock in 24 hours straight.
I got a question for you.
So did you start the porn being in the porn industry before you did the podcast or was it opposite?
Oh, it was all by mistake.
I'm rolling with the punches.
This is the randomest shit ever.
I was a nightclub owner, festival owner, event thrower guy.
You look like one of those motherfucking guys.
I was one of those motherfuckers.
Yeah, bro.
You look like a nightclub like promoter, dude.
Yeah.
Fuck.
That nailed it.
Yeah.
Okay.
In Toronto.
Okay.
And then COVID hit.
But 10 years ago, I did a video with my grandfather, sex in the 50s on YouTube.
And it went viral, crazy viral.
My grandpa's a nut like me.
He's like, oh, your grandma's got the biggest bush ever.
She never, I only have a threesome.
I used to have, like, he was insane.
That went crazy viral.
But wait, what was it?
Was your grandpa having sex?
Yeah.
No, is my grandpa talking about sex.
Okay.
For no reason we did that video.
Just an interview thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I was on MTV Canada.
then when they booted me off for swearing too much, I did YouTube.
And that was my only video that took up.
MTV Canada booted you off for swearing?
Yeah.
Sounds so Canadian.
That's terrible, bro.
I'd be like, we got the best, fuck.
Best artists ever.
And then they'd be like, you can't keep doing that, bro.
And they could kick me off.
Wow.
I did six months, though.
I never knew to Ryan Lord at all.
Oh, yeah?
I thought you just spawned into my industry.
Like a little, like a little.
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to figure out.
Okay.
Because in my mind, you did just.
randomly spawn.
And I was like,
who the fuck is this guy?
Yeah.
And he doesn't do porn.
He's like not Adam.
Well,
I wasn't even sure.
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't even know.
I was,
because I don't look at that,
I don't look that deep into it.
So I was like,
he probably does,
the way he's talking,
I'm sure he does it.
I have sex with them sometimes.
Yeah.
If they want.
So,
so you have this interview with your grandpa.
Yeah.
And then 10 years later,
when COVID hit and all my clubs
and events and festivals,
everything I was doing got shut down.
And I wasn't just like a shitty little promoter kid.
I was like owning the best clubs.
All right.
And then when COVID hit, I was like, someone said, oh, do that grandpa interview on Zoom with
celebrities you've met.
So that was it.
I started with Francesca Farago and then Harry Jousie and then Jackson Dordy, Steph Quendval.
It was three years ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Celebrity sex podcast, first of its kind.
What's the idea?
A year and a half later, we interviewed me in Malcova by fluke.
Someone asked if I could get her TikTok account back.
I did.
I said, can you just do my podcast?
And she said, sure.
She's dope.
She's the best.
Yeah.
my queen yeah the best my favorite points are all time too which is crazy i woke up that morning i
jerked off to her an hour later i get a face time can you get this girl's tic talk back it's mea i probably
still had the nut on my stomach wow yeah that's a that's a shameful moment you're like who am i
that's what i was like i should have cleaned this off you know then they all started calling me
can i do it can i do it chetch and then karmin and then kuzumi and i was like oh shit and then it
just became the porn i'm just rolling with the punches because i just see a bunch of clips on on
on TikTok and I'm like what the fuck that that was like that's how much I knew and then I was like
this fucking guy yeah and then someone was told me someone's like you should have mom this was a while
ago and I was like ah because I like to stay I mean I didn't obviously I can't say I've historically
stayed away from porn source because I've interviewed tons and I've had well you got autumn which is
the only interview she's ever done yeah and she's like a dream guest for me yeah but she says I'm too
scared I hate podcasts yeah I did a good job yeah she did a good job too I watched it but it's just
like that industry in general i'm like it's just such an interesting thing man yeah you're i i i don't
know if you could be doing something else what do you think it would be i'd probably try to be like
like a like a logan paul like a more normal generic YouTuber i love that like that's like a more
normal that was kind of like a slightness it was pretty funny a more normal generic you know but
is he he's not that uh i see what you're saying more like a dobrick like i just go the normal
route. Like a YouTuber, like a blogger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. I'd probably go for that.
Why not? Because it's just worked and you're like, fuck it. I'm here. I can't think of ideas
for normal PG shit. I don't have one idea in my brain. But when it comes to this, I'll tell,
like, some ideas we haven't done are like insane, right? Yeah. I'll call because I'm like, yo,
I got an idea. I'll be fucked on like Adderall. And she'll be like Ryan. That one's a little
crazy. But I can come up with these crazy ideas for this space. I don't know. And you're talking about
Like for scenes to shoot?
Yeah.
Like, okay, Tuesday, we're doing a live show.
So you know what Kiltonia's?
The comedy show, they just sold out MSG.
Where people come up, they tell women a comedy,
and then they get like celebrity comedians to roast them and banter with them.
Yeah.
So I completely copied that.
It's called Dirty Little Secret.
And we sell out once a month.
And we do it at Bourbon Room.
And I have Kazooley.
I have Pornstar Judges.
Steiny, actually, is the judge Tuesday.
He's a poor star judge to me.
And then people from the,
the audience come up and tell their best sex story and then the porn star judges rank them
and banter with them and it's awesome so that's like the next thing i'm working on and then i have
this other show idea i'm working on called brown paper bag show where people are going to come on
anonymously with a brown paper bag hooked up to a lie detector and just like say whatever the
fuck they want they're going to be hooked up to not the brown paper bag yeah like like the
anonymous people okay so normies are going to come on anonymously and just say like you know
little yoddy has a micro penis
you know so I like I'm coming up with these new show things and I like this genre more
just because what do you think it fits you more yeah so I'm fucked I'm not normal yeah you know
yeah I mean I think like creatively I just always lean towards making that type of content yeah it just
comes to me naturally like that's like what entices me and I like shock value I like to freak people
the fuck out like at my birthday when I had the surprise sex show for the first time people couldn't
People still talk about it.
Like, it was the craziest thing ever.
I love that.
I love freaking people out.
Yeah, Stani told me about that.
But so you, as far as like the, how do you get paid in that?
I guess is what I'm curious.
It's like, so we're very lucky.
Yeah, we, you know, humbly, we're the biggest porn podcast.
And every porn industry is a multi-billion dollar company.
They'll have a marketing budget that they, you know, the way you would get gym brands.
I get the porn brands.
Even though you're way bigger than me.
I'm still the dude of my space.
No, no, I get it.
Yeah, I get way more money than I should.
But what about not so much and that's, I understand that, obviously, because I could see
that when I look at it.
But I'm more so when you're speaking about content creation in these, like, other events
or like when you're helping her with an idea?
Is she, like, paying you for the idea or is it just like, it's fam?
Yeah, it's fam.
We're like really best friends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, some of the things we just create because it's fun to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I feel like that's like the ethos of like what true creation should be.
But stuff like the orgy that we did
It was obviously filmed and sold
Yeah, so like the orgy I gave all 15 people
Producer Terry edited it
And we gave all 15 people
The video nicely edited
We got it approved by only fans for everyone
Okay here's the list of who to tag
Let's agree on a price
So it's not copyright issues
Yeah I got it
And then we all drop it same price same time
Boom
And then that way
I don't have to pay people out
Or this and that
It's just let's just collab
Okay
Okay so that makes sense to me
interesting how do you how do they determine like you know when like adam and in in uh
lena yeah sorry not obviously i'd think of adam because i'm like why'd you do that but um
jason and lena did that and like they you know that you drop it like is there is there ever ever
any issues where people are like no i want to you know yeah well that was a big one because
they didn't want jason to post it so they agreed to one month where he couldn't post it but he got
so much hype from it you were fucking him while it was coming out huh jason love i don't know maybe you
you were with him like that month it was like you i think no i don't have any scenes out with him
no i know but you were fucking him low key in general what what like like like while the adam and lena
thing was going crazy you were with him like no just like i just hook up him like one a couple times
well like off camera yeah yeah once miami once in all i remember how do you like have that like
in your memory.
But I remember.
And he said,
yeah,
I asked him,
how much did you make?
He goes,
they didn't let me post
a scene for a month.
But the hype of my name,
he said he made like over 100K
in the first like day or two.
Just when people search them up.
Because they like did such a good job like having like the proper exposure for that.
That was the most sold still is the most sold scene in the history of only fans.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean that was.
I don't even know why.
I don't know.
I still don't know why you would do that.
I don't get it,
bro.
Why, dude?
Why?
I don't understand it, man.
It's crazy.
And then they did a reality show after it.
Did you see that?
Yeah, I saw that.
That was actually, like, low-key, well-produced.
Yeah, it was like, who the fuck shot that?
That was really good.
Yeah.
They definitely dropped a bag on that.
It's just such an interesting side of the internet to me.
When I see it, I'm just like, damn, dude.
Yeah.
These people are twisted.
They're sick.
But they were all a little fucked up.
Everyone's a little fucked up.
But Adam and Leonard are, like, the same brain as us.
Yeah, they're very content-minded.
Yeah, they get it.
So that's so, but do you think that I, and I've talked to Adam about this too, obviously,
but like, do you think that, do you think that love can really exist in a space like that?
Yeah, look at Zuni.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I think Adam and Lena truly love each other, you know.
I think love looks differently for all different types of people.
For sure.
People in open relationships exist.
And I think even people in stranger relationship dynamics exist.
And it doesn't have to make sense to literally anyone except for the people in the relationship.
The classic that I've been seen is, oh, man, look at me.
I'm dating this fucking porn star.
How sick am I for two to three months?
And then at the three month mark, when they really catch feels and it's starting
get serious, whoa, I don't know if I want you shooting the porn.
And what guys don't like more than the mainstream is the only fans content when they
fuck at home.
You know, because if they're getting booked for browsers, if I'm dating Kazumi
and she's on set, you know, I've been on the porn sets.
It's so not cheating.
It's really, if you're comfortable for dating a porn star,
Brasser scene or Vixen, whatever, 10 people there.
Okay, ready, shoot.
Okay, time.
But the OF shit, that's what hurts me when I'm dating the girls.
Because now they're booking the same guy twice in the same week.
You know, it's in my bed.
They're using my shirt as a cum rag.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
But you know what I mean?
The OF content is like a little more like cheating, if you will, a little bit.
I would say I got really lucky with my partner because we were open like even before I did porn.
Like it was something that we established as like, I'm not going to be a monogamous person and like, are you interested in monogamy?
And he also wasn't someone that wanted to be monogamous ever.
So we had already done multiple instances of other people and explored that before I even got into the industry.
She's locked in.
Yeah.
I mean, your sounds like a relationship that would just never be recreated.
I feel like there's a lot of relationships that exist like mine.
The perfect couple, though, is when the guy says, okay, I'm going to be your stunt dick, P-O-V dick.
and you can shoot out-home porn with me.
Those seem to be the ones really flourishing.
Those are the most beautiful off all.
I felt like when me and my boyfriend would film content though,
I would get super stressed out.
Like, I would be like, um, you're like film.
Yeah, I haven't seen his dick around you in a while.
We have like early stuff together, but I like,
this is like my baby, you know?
Yeah.
I treat my, like, creating my content probably with the same seriousness.
People like create their YouTube videos or anything else.
So I would get super intense about like the angles or like the way he would shoot.
And it just would create tension.
Tell what you did recently.
Was it the bathtub?
What was the bathtub?
You did something fucking nuts.
With Hollywood cash?
Yeah, they were drowning you.
No, no, that was a long long time ago.
What the fuck?
That was a long time ago.
Yeah, but yeah.
That was an only fan's content thing.
I just had like, like, I had always wanted to get waterboarded.
What the fuck are we talking about?
I wanted to do it in a safe way and I wanted to just experience it once.
And so I did it.
The sensation of drowning.
Yeah, it was an experience I wanted to explore.
But I'm into BDSM and doing stuff.
stuff like that.
You know,
they'd say that's the worst torture
you can have.
Yeah,
yeah,
waterboarding.
Yeah, it wasn't like water
it was just him dunking
my head under water.
Well, yeah,
well,
that's not actually waterboarding.
Yeah,
waterboarding is like
when they put like
cloth over you.
Just enough to make you feel
like you can't breathe.
Yeah.
Like that's like,
awkward shit and they're just like
dumping water.
That's like gonna kill somebody.
Yeah,
and some girls now
are taking it to the next level.
These girls are going
a little crazy now.
They're water boring
with,
with piss and it's like,
well,
I don't know where that's happening.
Dainty does that.
Oh, sign me up.
Wait, why sign you up now?
No, just kidding.
But I do love Pete.
Wait, who is that?
Who is that?
Dainty Wilder, yeah.
That's squirt, not Pete.
Oh, yeah, she does both.
Yeah.
Oh, no, that's squirt.
Okay, sure.
This is so foreign to me.
This is so foreign.
But so, so this, I guess I have a question in regards to this is just overarching, like, society, right?
It's like, you never feel like, I can obviously understand you.
Like, you feel a certain way about it.
It's good with you.
You're good for it, right?
but do you ever think that just the fact that it's good for you you're showing it there's people
who maybe it's not as good for like their psyche maybe they can't build that same relationship
you were able to build with like your ego and letting go of like you know it having to be a certain
way but then people see it as a way out from their existing life or they have no other ways
to make money so they just fall into this and then it can be very like not a good thing for them
so you never worry like it's because like we're going in that direction of I mean if it's
not humans. It's going to be fucking like, people are going to be fucking AI robots or some
shit. Yeah. But it's like we're going into a weird direction of like girls see O.F as like, oh,
that's easy and like fuck all these other jobs and fuck all these other things because it's harder,
whatever it is. It's the easiest thing in the world to sell. No matter what anyone says,
sex is the easiest thing to sell. Well, you know as much as me, Brad, how common it is for any
girl above a seven in LA to do Lady of the Night stuff. And that is more common than
OF. What I don't like is when those
girls hate on OF girls.
What's worse?
It's all good if you want to do it. But they're secretive
about their whole operation. They pretend their Instagram models
and they're you know, cover
Playboy bullshit. And they're in
Turks and Kato. Yeah. Yeah. They're in
Bahamas. And then they hate on
a girl, you know, a lot of OF girls
just do solo content or just show their boobs.
And then they say, oh, I would never have OF.
Yeah, but you just suck the 80 year old's
dick, didn't you? Yeah, for your rent.
Yeah. So I think they're much
worse because they're they're fakes these girls are owning up to their shit but forget not even that
sort of like don't even worry about that because they're it's bullshit in my opinion i'm not saying
like i'm not saying you're shit i'm just saying for people's view like people who are like young
girls growing up so okay so what you're asking is like do i feel like me so i don't have any agenda
like i like my existence as a successful porn star slash only fans girl is not to like go on
podcast circuits and like convince other people to do what I'm doing. Yeah. I'm simply
existing. Um, you know, the same way that I would hope that my, my like,
M.O is not to like change anyone's minds about me, but my M.O. is if you feel seen with me and
you resonate with me, you feel a lot less alone. Because for every girl that isn't like me,
there are girls out there that are like me, you know, and I would never say that my path is a path
that I wouldn't, that I regret or something I wouldn't take. And especially in the landscape,
and we are in right now, I feel like this is probably the safest way that someone could get
into sex work if they were to get into it.
Through OF.
Through OnlyFans, for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like what he said.
Like, I don't personally escort or anything like that, but if I had to rate things in terms
of safety-wise, like, people could, like, make money out of their own, like, backyard or
living room.
And for me, that's a beautiful thing, whether it's Twitch streaming or creating their own
content from Onlyfans or whatever it is.
There's so many different avenues for us to make money.
and I don't necessarily think any of them is like less ethical, you know?
Because like there's no scam, right?
Like if I say that my boob picture is 20 bucks and you agree to it, then that's what it is.
If you say this board Ape NFT is one bazillion dollars and that person agrees to it, then that's what it is.
There's no scam in the exchange of digital products if we all agree to what it is.
Yeah.
I'm not talking about it being a scam.
I'm just saying like it become more normalized so then it just becomes just because it's normal for you and it's okay for you.
I can respect that, right?
I'm not saying you're wrong.
You feel however you want to feel.
But then a new girl comes up and she's like, oh, I really want to be a nurse.
And she's like six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
So I want to be a nurse.
Oh, I want to be a doctor.
And then she's eight, 17.
She's like, man, my family's kind of struggling.
And she's like, man, I'm going to school for this.
But I can just fuck on camera or sell my tits and make way more money than a doctor would
would ever make.
And then they just do that.
Like there's a little bit of degradation of society.
And that's why creators
made $10 billion last year
I'm saying. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
But I'm just saying
there's a real thing
that is, that's an undeniable.
Do you think Only fans
are going to be making this type of money
for creators five, ten years from now?
Do I think OnlyFans is going to be making
this kind of money?
I think, like, if you
are able to take advantage of something
that currently exists and it's not scamming
or hurting anyone except like yourself,
then you have to make that own decision
with yourself, you know?
Like, you know, you putting me on your podcast, broadcast me to your fan base, right?
It doesn't necessarily mean you're putting them on to people like me or inspiring those people
to suddenly do porn because I'm having a good time with porn.
People like me are just existing and sharing our story, and it doesn't necessarily mean
it's wrong or right.
For sure.
No, I'm not saying it is.
I'm just saying it's not about it being wrong.
But I will say, like, lately I've been focusing on like doing OnlyFans courses and modules
because I do understand that sex work can be a predatory.
space. I think as long as these people are like, you know, not let astray and like aren't like,
you know, working with like shitty people or shitty industries that I don't think they're being
taken advantage of or like being in a degrading path. Well, this it's we're talking about two
separate things I think. Like if I want to be a nurse and then I say I want to do only fans,
what's actually wrong with that? So I'm okay, I'm just saying let's take this to the farthest degree,
Yeah.
Let's say every girl of age of 18 is like, I'm not going to do anything but this.
Let's say like because it's easier and you make way more money and why do anything else
because you can just make the money doing this.
So I'm saying there in this kid, there's just not an antithesis for men because men don't
have the same sort of options that women do in this case just for a lot of reasons, right?
It's just not the way it is.
Oh, the dudes have it bad.
Like dudes can't be like, like not every dude's going to be the dude with the giant dick or whatever
the fuck it is.
Like it's not like that that's such a time.
tiny kind of like percentile right so the whole point is like it's a real thing that if you if
you just took it all the way out and like me okay let's make this as look at this picture as big as we
can and every girl just at some point is like well that's just so much easier and I can make so much
more money whether you're selling pornography or not you're now just deterring people from doing
things that are actually like really useful in society but here's my argument you know like before
only fans I really didn't have like any degree of success
with a lot of things in my life or any proof of concept that I would be anything great.
But now that I haven't only fans, I now have the money, time, and resources to do amazing things
of my life, right? Like, for example, I'm able to create a comic book. If I wanted to make a
podcast, I could do a podcast. I could use the money I made and, like, you know, create a fucking
school in the Philippines. If these are things I wanted to do. Like, I don't know how we would,
like, measure someone's worth or value in society based off, like, their career choice as of
now because it's not like all of us stick with what we're doing. You know, like,
you don't know what Ryan's doing in five, ten years. You don't know if you're still doing
this podcast in five, 10 years. What I would say to anyone is, you know, take what works for
you right now and then use it to your best advantage. And then from the resources that you
create from that advantage, take it, take it wherever you want to be. And wherever you
want to be, to be wherever you want to take it. Yeah, I get you. So let's use that as an example,
right? Do what you can right now to use it to your best advantage currently, right? Let's
say for a girl who, for example, she needs to pay some bills and she's 19, 20, and she tried
other stuff, and it didn't work, and now she started only fans, and she's selling her body,
she makes 20K months, she stops doing it. She buys a car, she could pay some rent, whatever, right?
And now it doesn't, she doesn't continue to make that money because she feels some sort of way
about it. And then she goes on with her life and it's like now constantly reminded that she's
done this thing every time she like goes forward in a new relationship or, because like she's not
wanting to really be in that industry.
Like you're fully embracing it and that's great for you, right?
But like not every girl is going to be like, this is great.
Now they're finding themselves in relationship issues for the rest of their life.
Not that like normal people don't have them anyways.
But you know what?
The two girls that hate on porn are Lana Rhodes and Mia Khalifa, right?
They're the ones that say, oh, porn was terrible.
Fuck the industry.
It's bad.
Well, Mia Khalifa is a fucking idiot.
Okay.
Number one, she's an idiot.
They're both still using their porn names to speak, though, on these shows and to make
their money and to be a celebrity.
They're not really giving up on it that bad, are they?
So does it really haunting them or are they kind of embracing it while shit talking it?
And they're both still doing only fans.
You know, I don't think these, like, a Bella Danger loves that she's a Bella
danger, but she quit porn.
Yeah, she was dope.
You know, even like Sky Bree.
Like, she loves that she did it.
You know, I don't think any of them really regret it.
They're like, yeah, I'm a celebrity now and I have a name for myself.
Yeah.
It's not even someone to regret.
I'm just more talking about.
just like if we took it to the farthest level like the societal just effects of it is just like
and speaking of sky brie ash your boy nick yeah he hates on me for loving skybri and it's like
hey we all love sky brie you're dating sky brie yeah why does he hate it i don't get what he hates
on you because i have this schick where i'm obsessed with sky brie and he doesn't like it because you're
but but there's like she got tons of people who're obsessed with her that's what i'm saying but
do you say things that are disrespectful i don't think so like my queen i say my my goddess you know
my angel you know yeah when she shows up somewhere i get on my knees and i bow i'm not mad at that
yeah and then he i i get this energy that like he doesn't want her around me anymore and it's like
bro what do you want me to do dating skybree you're not dating a six and i'm bowing to a six
it's our goddess, Skyrie.
And I like Nick.
I just wish you would, you know, accept me for my love for his girlfriend.
But your sim actions, yeah.
You're kind of like cucked simb actions.
Yeah.
It's whatever.
But it's not personal.
I hope not.
No, I don't.
I mean, that's an interesting thing.
You guys should box.
You and him and Nick?
Yeah.
He would really try to knock me out, I think, if we did.
You think really, it's like it's actual anger?
Yeah, I feel it.
I know it.
What do you mean?
How is it angle?
Like he would, he would, he would.
just never followed me back. I've met him like
lots of times and I've called them out
and he still wouldn't do it. And then now when
I call him out on the follow? Yeah, of course.
Like in person? Yeah.
Hey, so what did you say? You're like, yo, bro, you don't follow
me? Yeah, what's going on here? And what does he say? We have good
talks every time we see each other. No follow.
He goes, ah, it's just I don't love the porn and shit. I don't want it
on my feed. I'm like, I can you, I respect
that. It's a 2024 slap in the face
when you're friends with someone and they don't follow you.
But I respect the point because the poor thing is like, I got to, you know.
But then now I see, you know, he maybe holds her hand a little tighter when I walk.
No, no, no, not that he's threatened.
Not that he's threatened by me, but just like, fuck this fucking guy's here, you know?
It's like this piece of shit's here.
No, that's hilarious.
That's how I feel.
And Nick, I think you're a great guy.
I wish we could be friends.
And I've never made a move on Sky.
Right?
Yeah.
I just think she's great and the best ever do it in the most beautiful girl of all time.
Well, I mean, she is the most beautiful girl of all time.
I agree.
Yeah.
No, she's no.
Nick loves you?
Yeah.
Cheating on Sky.
No.
No.
No.
I love Nick and Sky.
Sky's though.
Super cool.
So I love Nick too.
Yeah.
He's great.
I just said the comment, it's hilarious.
Grab her hand a little hard.
You know, fucking this guy's here, eh?
Dude, I love it.
Okay.
So have you ever done any collapse stuff with Adam?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just did a, I just won their 20B1.
You know those 20V1 things?
Yeah, the YouTube bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're homies.
They're like big bro.
Adam's like big bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, he looks out for me.
He's a good guy.
He's very smart, Adam.
Oh, yeah.
Very smart and a hard worker.
And then he just turns it on for the podcast.
He says crazy shit and then he's back to fucking plotting to take over the world.
Yeah.
But poor guy, no jumper still down.
Still deleted.
Yeah, the Instagram, right?
Yeah.
And I think I know who's deleting us.
who it's one person
you think it's one person
yeah one day one night
like us as in like all of us all of us
okay yeah I know like me too or
have you been deleted recently
no no no then you're good I don't know
no it's one person and every time he has a problem
with someone they get permaband
and look getting disabled is different the permaband
disabled is 2K 3K to a Turkish hacker
you're back in an hour
permaband means someone manually at meta
deleted you with the note saying
and the way they work at meta only someone
above them can reactivate your account. So someone at Meta is partners with someone who hates us
all. And every time that person gets crossed, permaband, permaband. And I put it together. I piece it all
together. When did you piss them off? When did you get deleted? And I built this whole document
fucked on Adderall. I put it on the wall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I send it to a few people
and they're like, wow, you fucking nailed it. But I'm scared of death of that person because of the
power they have with the permaband. So I won't say. But say it, we'll cut it. You have to beat this.
Who is it?
Really?
Yes.
I thought it was Andrew Tate.
Oh, Tate.
I thought it was Tate.
You think Tate would do that?
Nah, Tate's my boy.
Tate's dating my ex-pree?
Andrew Tate.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, Tate's my boy.
He wouldn't do.
Like, I feel like, he would not.
He don't give a fuck like that.
They sent me a cease and assist two weeks ago, though.
For what?
For making, I made one silly joke about my ex-dating Tate.
And then I got a seat.
On the podcast?
Yeah, it was out the live show that I do, and I clipped it like a stand-up bit.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
but then what's funny is
did you see his tweet after Trump won
make me a sandwich?
Oh, I saw there's tons of tweets
Yeah, which one specifically?
So he said Trump won,
get back on your game boys
and it's him saying make me a sandwich
to like 10 girls
and then you see my ex-girlfriend,
Bree, at the bottom, make me a sandwich.
And, you know, she's telling everyone like,
oh, it's just with me
and we're not going to have this and happy.
Looks like you're at the bottom of the list,
Bree.
You know.
And then there's
Chloe moan a lot is one of the names.
Did you actually get a cease and assist though?
Yeah, I'll show you.
What the fuck?
For Mr. Tate and Mrs. Stern.
So I'm not supposed to.
No, I got to see.
Yeah, there's no way.
Yeah, this fucking douchey lawyer from Texas.
Here we go, Charles Bush.
And then look at the terms on the second page.
So one, they want me to delete all videos about them, two.
Bush and Bush, Texas trial attorneys.
They wanted me to post a retraction video.
I will die on a hill before I apologize to be online.
Did you get your page back?
Yeah.
Oh, so you didn't have to say sorry.
It's just because you mentioned something?
Yeah.
What did you say specifically?
Do you remember?
Yeah, I said, you know, my ex is dated Andrew Tate, which is crazy because I took his advice
to break up with her.
Oh, it's kind of funny.
Yeah.
It's kind of funny.
But that was it?
Yeah, pretty much.
And then I did an impression of them.
And then I said, like, she's been with a lot of fucking dudes.
Oh, so that's what that's probably.
Okay.
That makes more sense there.
Yeah.
Who's his breed person?
He said off.
Except how many years were you?
We were a year and a half.
Okay.
Live together.
I had a dog together.
She was hot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She had a dog together.
She cheated on me with more dudes than I can count.
Why don't you leave the first time?
I didn't know.
Oh, you just found out the list later?
Yeah.
Oh, fuck, dude.
Yeah.
But we're homies now.
Yeah.
You're homies now?
Yeah, we're good.
You forgave?
Yeah.
That's.
We got more people to deal with important villains
Like the deleter guy
Oh okay yeah
You know fuck him
Yeah can't have too many villains going on at the same
Yeah how do you deal with that
How do you deal with the deleter guy
I messaged him and I let him know
I said hey just so you know
Sent him the Fed white boy
Yeah yeah and I said just so you know
This is what people are saying
So people think it's you
I'm not taking sides but just so
And I think that's a way of saying like
If I ever get deleted again motherfucker
I know too
I think that was a good way to handle it.
Why would they be doing that, though?
Just because what would be the use of that?
It's, you know, really?
It's like you own a restaurant.
It's like burning zoo culture down with no insurance.
It's deleting the creator's Instagram, right?
But why would they want to do that, though?
Because it's the competition in this?
Yeah, fuck this.
They crossed us.
You're done, buddy.
You're dead.
It's just a hate crime.
It's killing someone.
It's Diddy killing Biggie.
Damn.
This got deep.
Just got to be real fast, you know, you don't fuck with the East Coast, bang.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, bro, but he was the East Coast.
Sorry.
I can talk about that.
West Coast.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
If he killed Pock.
Right.
But then it also is deeper because he probably did kill Biggie too.
Yeah.
It's really weird.
Oh, sorry.
I mixed the names up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But now they're saying that he might have actually killed Biggie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, who got all the power when that happened.
That was a crazy thing, man.
That whole thing that the world is really weird right now.
Yeah.
Like extremely weird right now.
Yeah.
Do you think they'll ever release the Diddy, the whole like tapes and it's like
an Epstein list, right?
It's some shit.
I mean, but apparently there's video evidence of like these people doing fucked up
things actually.
Yeah.
And apparently a huge male artist getting fucked in the ass.
Whoa.
Wow.
I don't know.
You knew that one.
Yeah.
That was the thing he was certain.
Like what?
What do you think it would be?
Usher.
You said that's so fast.
Like you.
I'm into it.
I've been really following the ditty one.
And I think Usher.
And I think Beep's got that work too.
a little bit i'm not gonna lie that one's sad that one's a little sad yeah it is that's twisted
do you think that ever comes out or it's just like there's too many people who are like nah there's
too much yeah too much money too much power saying fuck i'm in there and don't fucking you know
like why not release the upscene list that's the biggest trial of all time of our generation
and oh well presidents were there well they keep but they trump keeps talking about like releasing
it like he was like yeah i'm gonna just gonna do it wasn't bro there he was homies with him but
He never fucked with the island.
I think they were like leasing the planes and shit.
You know, you're like on the plane.
And that's okay for Trump to be homies with another billionaire in New York.
Yeah.
That's not weird.
That's life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a bunch of people do that.
But like actually going to the island is another thing.
But apparently the Clintons were there.
I hope they, bro.
I hope they just fucking, no, here it is.
Yeah.
That would be so crazy.
Imagine just Hollywood crumbling.
Yeah.
It's kind of already is, man.
After this election, it's like fucking how many people came out and
like got to vote for this chick and then like nothing it didn't no one cared at that point
everyone's like you're tired of this you know there's a list going around right now are you seen
this porn star trumpies what okay so there's a divide in the porn industry going on and this is
terrible porn star trumpies and then i'm on it's titled porn star trumpies yeah just like
just so the dems know who not to work with uh don't work with these trumpies and then i'm on the list
but you're can't vote that's what i'm saying you can vote in california you can't vote
Ryan has had Republican guests on the show to talk about sex.
So?
What the fuck what?
Wait, but where are you seeing this information?
Look, it's going viral.
Porn star Trumpies.
And it's like.
Fuck it.
And because I have a picture with Amber Rose.
They're like, he has a picture with Amber Rose.
So he's a Republican.
Exposed Trump.
What the fuck?
What is this kind of weird shit?
Weird, right?
CJ Sparks.
And then we were going to laser tag last night with Brad Padra.
Oh, Papa.
Scumbag dad?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a girl says, wait a second, I'm not going to laser tag if Ryan's going because
I saw him on the porn star Trumpy list.
Like, what the fuck?
Because you took a picture of Amber Rose.
Yeah.
L.
Isn't that insane?
So the crazy part about this is, is like, wait, the party that is supposedly outwardly, like
we're all about, you know, we're inclusive and, like, rights and now, but if you don't
agree with me, though, fuck you.
That's what's crazy.
Yeah, it's supposed, they say the Republicans are like this.
They're being worse.
That's what it doesn't make sense to me.
Not that I'm picking a side.
No,
no.
It's funny with you're like from Toronto.
Like it's not even about picking aside.
It's just like that's a truth.
Like I'm not just making that up.
Yeah, yeah.
For real.
Like we're just saying that like how is that and how is it now a thing where it's like,
yo, it's now you have to agree with me or you're just the enemy.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's strange, man.
Especially to cancel someone for just having both parties on.
Who cares who they vote for?
We're talking about blow jobs.
Yeah.
You had an equal amount of Democrats.
in your podcast probably yeah yeah and you had only one amber rose right yeah people are nuts man
yeah it's the world is fucking it's crazy it's crumbling yeah yeah i feel like it's healing a little bit
and i'll tell you this the best people in this crazy world to me i find that are the porn people
because they don't get they're not fake they don't give a fuck yeah least fake people yeah i i feel
like whenever i hang out with real influencers i get super scared yeah they're fucking weird yeah i have
find more comfort with my friend group.
Why?
I just don't feel comfortable around them.
Like one's like you and Steinie and like have like done something and made it.
Okay, great.
You're cool.
But the come up people influencers are.
Oh, yeah.
They're fucked.
Oh, yeah.
Even at your party,
I felt like I like everyone was taking a picture with me.
And I was like,
I don't know half of you guys don't even fuck with me.
So why are you even taking a picture of me?
I don't know.
It just gives me a lot of anxiety like in crowds now.
Yeah.
Honestly, don't blame me for that.
The come up,
the come up influence thing is so spot on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just be normal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're doing me out.
Well, it's, it's, it's just that idea of, like, if I'm talking to you and you think this or you believe this, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you believe something different and I'll go talk to you.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just the.
And I'll say, can you believe Ryan thinks that?
Yeah, whatever I can do to, like, gain favor.
Yeah, you're right.
It's very strange.
But I think it's really just also this city as well.
Oh, it's awful.
And I don't think it's everywhere with influences.
I think it's really L.A.
Yeah.
And the girls here.
It's hard to date the girls.
They're worse than guys.
in what sense you think like to not trust a girl yeah you know a dude is like the fuck boys are
the fuck boys but the girls all pretend to be very sweet and nice but then a lot of them are
doing sketchy shit on those why are you in lingerie in a hotel taking a pick i don't know
and then quick they're quick to jump to your friend or or the next cool celebrity yeah yeah
yeah are you experiencing like ryan groupies now like people who are not fucking you for love
you know it's it's the beginner porn girls that are like to me oh they think
you'll put them on something like that i guess yeah fascinating that kind of makes sense though
yeah and do i do it yeah you're like wait wait a second no i'm pretty sure that guy
yeah yeah it's damn but you know i try not to be like i i never do give them airtime after
because it does make it Weinstein yeah yeah so it's like and don't put them on yeah i guess that's
better but i tell them at the beginning like this isn't going to
I'm not, you're not getting a clav of
Kazumi out of this. Oh, okay. You know, I tell them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not meeting Viking Barbie,
nothing. Let me ask you guys both a question.
Answer this question, not because you know that like what you think you,
what you think they want the answer to be, but what you truly feel.
Okay. Are you happy more often than not?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck. Terry, am I the happiest guy in the world?
Yeah. Life is so awesome.
When did it start feeling that way?
When we started making good money.
Oh, God.
When we signed our jerk made deal.
So that.
Right, Terry?
I knew you brought that up earlier and I seen it on your other pot.
I was like, this is an ad.
But, okay, but so it's just money that makes you happy.
Like, it worked, you know?
Because when I was the cool promoter guy doing this with no views, it was cringe as
fuck.
What is the sex?
What the fuck is this?
It was cringe.
Then it started getting views and then it started to become, okay, the haters slowed down
and people are like, oh, it's pretty dope.
But now that we're making, like, big money from it,
everyone's like oh let's go and it's like see mom and dad see fucking idiots from my hometown
we did it now okay now it looks like the plan is like it worked because it sucks when
you're building and people are like what the fuck is he doing yeah because i already had something
cool going on i had the clubs so it was like cringe to try something else that was a weird year
making no money losing money getting hated on getting no views that was a tough time but keep
fighting and then now it's like everyone's like oh yo we always loved it no you don't you
didn't fucking line. Yeah, that's common. That's the most common thing, man. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we,
oh, yeah, we knew, bro. Yeah, fuck you. You didn't know shit. So many people doubted me.
And then they're like, oh, man, it's so cool, bro. Congrats, man. It's so cool. Yeah, we remember
you coming up, man. And go fuck yourself, bitch. Yeah, that's really how I felt. What about you?
What do you mean? Are you more happy than you're not, like, more often? Yeah, I would say
every day is literally, like, the best day ever. I think I'm, like, living my life completely
on, like, my means. Like, there's not, like, one decision I make every day that's, like,
not something I just want to do, not want to do. And I feel like I've been happy for a really
long time because I've always been really surrounded by really good friends. Like I have like
really amazing people in my life that I feel like truly respect me and like see me as like
just another amazing person. And I'm just, I've been happy for a while actually. She does.
I genuinely, I'm, I genuinely like love my life. Yeah. Like it's amazing. Her following though,
like she does like a pop up. I'm, I launched the Kazumi burger and then like thousand people show up.
Yeah, I launched a burger with a burger restaurant and I had like a huge line and it was like she's doing it.
I did a car I launched a cocktail at like this bar.
Like I like to just like do fun things and I'm really extroverted and I feel like your fans are a reflection of yourself and honestly like meeting a lot of my fans in real life.
I like they're crazy.
They're like adorable like little people that I see a lot of myself.
They're little people?
No, no, no.
Like I was like like I'm pretty like dorky and kind of awkward.
and I feel like my fans are the same way.
Like, I really enjoy, like, my fans, but I also enjoy, like, my friend group.
Like, I'm from Los Angeles.
I didn't move here.
I'm not a transplant.
And I feel like I've never had a problem, like, especially, like, now where, like,
my life, like, makes sense financially and everything where I don't feel, like, out of place.
Yeah, I feel like.
And the Asians lover.
The Asians love me.
Well, I mean, yeah, Asian solidarity.
Like, I love being Asian.
But had there any minute of time, there was time prior to this point where you're like,
it was not.
I mean, there's a time just like when Ryan said,
when you're on the come up, you know, and like, you know, you have an only fan and you're just
a girl and it's like a little embarrassing, but I, it always felt like something that I felt
like naturally drawn to and it really didn't, like, I appreciated the grind. Like, I never really
felt like, oh my gosh, I hate like how this looks or seems. Like, like doing sex work and doing
what I do felt like something that I was going to do anyways. How about you, Brad? Are you happy?
More often than not. Yeah. But definitely, I've had definitely times where I'm like, man,
what the fuck am I doing?
But it's not so much in relationship to like the things that I'm doing outwardly.
It's more like the relationships that I've had, you know, friendships,
business relationships.
You seem so busy, so much going on.
Yeah, I do a lot of different shit, for sure.
But like that, you know, in that space, you have to create relationships.
You have to be able to harbor relationships.
You have to be able to make things work.
And I've just been in a lot of situations where I'm like, damn, you got me.
You know, I got fucked over here.
I got fucked over there.
Our friendships that last long that like then fall out over some business shit.
I'm just like, it's tough.
But overall, yeah, for sure, I'm happy.
Yeah.
I mean, do I see myself living in L.A. forever, like, and being so happy, probably not.
Like, I'll probably like to move out of here.
But I'm still here because obviously a lot of the content is still here.
Yeah.
A lot of people come fly in to make content.
So it's still a good hub for that.
But long term, yeah, like, I just, I'm a simple dude.
Like, I honestly just want to live on, like, a ranch somewhere.
You get ranch vines.
Ride dirt bikes and shoot guns.
Like, that's what I want to do, man.
I love making content, though.
I love talking.
I love getting to know people.
I love understanding things.
I feel like it helps me with my life processing things.
Do you ever wish you were not famous?
It's an interesting question.
I can't say yes because I never planned on being famous.
I was never like, yo, I'm going to be famous.
I always felt when I was young, this is a true story, very young, like 15, 14, 15, 16.
I was like, I remember feeling like playing like Halo and shit.
And I was like, man, this can't be it for my life.
It has to be something like I, because I lived in a town just outside.
side of San Francisco, and I remember, you know, you hear about people who, like, they graduate
and then, like, they go work down here, they stay in the town. It's a cycle, right? Yeah.
And I remember thinking, like, nah, that's definitely not for me. It's not the kind of life I want to
live. And I was like, I want to do more with my life. So I started creating this idea of like,
oh, I'm going to go to L.A. because that's where people, like, make it. And they go to
to Hollywood or whatever. And it wasn't even so much in the sense where I thought I was
going to, like, be in Hollywood or, like, be famous. I was just trying to not be where
everyone I knew just stayed. So I was like, let me get out of this, like, cycle that it looks
like I would head to because, like, I'm by all these other people that just head there.
So I was like, okay, let me go to L.A., right? And I basically threw all my shit in like a
fucking little Ranger, Ford Ranger, Stepside, little flare side. I'll never forget this and drove
like a hatch over the back, all my shit in the back of it to like a random family that, like,
some Mexican family that I met on Craigslist and just like rented their house, like,
when I was going to Cal State Fullerton. And I, it was, it was.
The internet wasn't the thing, because I'm 35, right?
So to give you guys reference point, I've been doing it for like 15 years.
So there was no like, oh, Instagram's going to be dope.
Yeah, right.
Like, YouTube was really starting to become a thing.
And I just didn't know how to get into it.
But I was never like, I'm doing this to be famous.
So fame kind of found me.
Like, I started to do things that I was like, oh, this will go viral because, you know,
now there's videos and I could show.
Because I was on Instagram when there was like, no videos.
You're taking pictures and shit, right?
That's how fucking old I am.
before they introduce videos.
And in videos, I was like, oh, people will like this.
And I just started to see the response.
And so for me to say no, I wouldn't want to be famous is like, also corny because
I'm like, I'm really not that famous, I guess on the internet spectrum I kind of am,
which I guess is the world now.
But I guess because I didn't try to be famous, it's hard for me to say no because
it was like sort of given to me.
I don't know.
I said all that to say.
It's just like, that's a flex.
Well, I'm not trying to flex.
But, you know, most people there, you know, like.
Like if you're like 17 now, 18 now, 15 now, now you're like, oh, I could do social media and I can be
famous and I got a bunch of followers. That wasn't my reality when I was at age. I thought I was
going to become a trainer. Like when I first started getting my life together, I was a trainer and I was
like, okay, I'm going to train celebrities. That's what I thought I was going to do. That's what I
thought when I moved down, like that's where I would go. And I thought I was going to own like a,
you know, like a building maybe the size of this backhouse and like have my gym in it and train
celebrities out of that gym. That's what I envisioned when I was going towards, because before I
got on the internet, I was training celebrities. So I got to that point making really good money
than being like, oh, we'll have this thing Instagram. And I'm making four times as much money.
I'm going to focus on this. And that was at that point, just selling online. Do you still train
celebrities? I help people. Yeah. So, but I don't personally go and be like, oh, I'm going to fucking
train you for X amount of money. And I don't have the time to do that. But people will hit me up and just ask me for
advice, whether it's like hormone stuff or like work out stuff or like come show them X, Y, Z.
Or you'll work out with them at Zooltulture. Yeah. Yeah. But so when you ask me that question,
I have to think of all that stuff because I wasn't like I want to be famous. So for me to say I don't
want the fame that I have would be like really just genuine to like how I got it. You know what I'm
saying? Because I got it from like just making content about, I mean, at least, okay,
I guess I didn't. I guess, okay, my popularity where people actually got engaged with
me was because of like the speaking content but there was the viral nature of things that I did
that was just like okay I know this is going to go viral so I guess at some point I was like
playing for the fame yeah you know well man's game but it's just dope I just like I'm just
grateful that people gave a shit about any of the things that I had to say for so many years
because I would film workout content that was just like lifting you know this is how you do
this is how you do this and then I would kind of banter talk shit and then I would talk for like 30
minutes at the end of the videos about like this is where I'm at my life this is how I feel
this is what I'm going through.
And that's what really got people like engaged with me.
So like my fame was sort of a in my,
I would view it as like a derivative of that.
And it's like for me to say,
no,
I don't want that because then then this wouldn't also would have to go with it.
Right.
So as far as my purpose,
that's what feels really good.
So to say that I wouldn't want that.
Now if like if you just asked me the question,
could I just have like if we took everything away and it didn't,
none of the stuff mattered and it was just like,
would you pick fame or money?
I'd probably pick just money.
Yeah, but then you feel like you still have to work now.
Like I feel like you could just like run away and live in your ranch right now.
Yeah, I mean, I can do it.
I could do it.
But at the same time, like it goes back to what I just said.
Like if I just picked money, then what's the point of life?
Like money's cool.
It's cool to have money.
Don't get me wrong.
Like everyone, when you don't have it, it's all that matters.
And that's what everyone wants.
But like when you have a lot of it, then it's the thing that sort of matters the least.
Yeah.
Now it's let's build something dope.
Yeah.
And have good communication, have good relationships, like share.
love like actually have good moments with people like that's the thing that you know no matter how much
money you make you'll recognize it like none of it really matters at some point truly doesn't matter yeah
and so that's that's what i like it's hard for me to forego if i just said oh could i just have
without fame without the money it's like well the fame is the connection you know the money is
just having money and i can go fuck off and then my life's kind of boring right because you're there's
like where's the purpose and just having money right yeah so creating is fun yeah
Because in creating, you're connecting.
You're connecting with people.
Like even today, you know, obviously, like, I'm not the best of friends with this.
The first day I've met you.
But, like, now I can, like, build something or we can have conversations or who knows
where it can go.
But, like, I'm connecting with someone.
Yeah.
First time we've ever really met, right?
We're able to connect in a way that if I just had money, you might be like, oh, cool,
you got a bunch of money.
And then that's it.
And that's why I think all these girls are so depressed because they don't really have
purpose.
You know, like the hot IG girls?
Yeah.
They do what they need to do to get by.
And then they just, they're on their phone.
scrolling all day. That's depressing. The hotter the girl, the more depressed, I find,
it seems. Yeah, unless you have shit that you actually, like, do with it. Yeah. Like,
jokingly or oddly enough, the fact that you were fuck some cancer guys, like, the crazy
shit, the fact that it, like, saved his life is even crazy. It's like, I can't even argue it.
I can't even say, oh, that's bad. It's like, we flew him down for the Halloween party.
We love to Jake Marshall. Yeah. Yeah. Our boy Jake. That's crazy. Like, they actually saved his life.
yeah nuts you know he's a huge fan of yours actually that's sick we could get a video after
like hey jake yeah for sure okay for sure but that's like that's cool shit where it's like damn
like that's what makes it to me like obviously i'm not in your shoes but that would be like those
moments or things that make it worth it oh yeah because everything else is like when his mom
grabbed me and cried and said thank you for saving my son's life that was like the moment
terry you were there on the side of the highway yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah side of a highway
because like what do you what do you guys what do you think the point of life is if you had
like sum it up in some words. What would it sound like? Do live the dopest life until you die.
Yeah. That's it. Do whatever the fuck you want. I hate, look, religion doesn't bother me if people
are religious or not, but I hate when people tell me I need to live a certain way based on their
religion. I'm going to live like it's the big sleep. And if there's heaven at the end, awesome.
Fair. Yeah. Yeah. What about you? Yeah. I feel like life is just about, you know,
having these really fun experiences and being kind to other people and trying your best to
connect. I feel like what fulfills me the most is like contributing to my own community and
feeling like seen and making other people feel seen. Like I feel like it's been so nice to be
able to connect with people like what you said through creation on a grander scale because I'm
able to communicate with people on like such a bigger level than if I was just like me and
I was just one little blip in this universe. And what do you think is important for you to
communicate. I feel like for me, at least, you know, my, and again, my MO is not to create more
people like me. My MO is like if you feel seen, if you feel like you resonate of the type of person
I am, you feel less alone. And I hope that like if people, you know, see a figure like me, they're at
least inspired to be more themselves. You know, I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong
with the person I am, or no matter how extreme I am, as long as I'm playing ethically and I'm making
sure that everyone around me is like safe and respected. And I feel like that's something that I want to
keep pushing for, especially other girls like me, you know, because the world tells us that
people like us are supposed to be treated like dirt. We're not supposed to have boyfriends. We're
not supposed to have that happy ending. But I'm living proof that I'm existing and it's completely
fine. And there doesn't necessarily need to be consequences for my actions because I don't think
what I'm doing is wrong. Yeah. You're the best. Flag. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also it's just kind of
like I love really showing people to versatility. You know, like of course I make porn, but I do a lot of
things like I launched that burger collab, you know, I've been on Forbes. I've done like so many
things where my life doesn't stop. And, you know, maybe like 20 years ago, if you did porn at the
level I'm at right now, it would probably ruin your life. Like, you probably would have
nothing else to do except porn if like 20 years ago. But times have changed and I feel like
something important for me is being able to show people the versatility of, you know, like,
why can't sleds change the world or why can't they just keep doing more things? You know,
like I feel like Riley Reid is an amazing testament and led it a plug because it's like they do
porn and then they're doing more things on top of that. And even on top of that besides like the
professional level, their moms, their wives, they're people that continue to matter to the
people around them. And I feel like my existence shows people that, you know, like I'm a pretty
wacky character, but I'm still gaining respect around people like me. And even if like, and if there
are things that you like, if there are girls out there that are just like me, they deserve respect to.
That's fair.
That's fair, yeah.
Did that make any sense?
No, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just can't agree with everything because I just have a, just my perceptions is a little different.
Yeah, but not it.
It's the way we grow up.
Yeah.
It's the way, it's the way you, it's how you feel about sex and relationships and the way you connect with people.
It's just, we're just different.
Yeah.
No, and I respect that.
Like, that's one of the things I think we're losing in, like, nowadays just in conversation.
And whether it's political or like candid, like moments like this.
that people want so badly to prove that their point is right or more right than the next person
that like there's less actual understanding of why someone would feel different than you.
And I think like that's the problem, one of the biggest problems in our society today
because, you know, when we start talking about like whether it's censorship or misinformation,
all these different things that are in relationship to what people say, it's like it's all
in the, it's all rooted in the foundation of I have a different opinion than you.
So either I want you not to say it.
I don't it's not true or like you're wrong and I'm right and that is just one of the weirdest
things like these fucking this list yeah it's weird exactly yeah it's just weird but the same thing
in the conversation where I'm like I could not agree with everything you say but for you if that
if that is real and you can't and that is like how you're living your life and you feel that and
you're I can't say you're wrong and feeling that I can say I don't I don't agree with everything
and that's not for me but it doesn't mean like we can't coexist and have conversations right
And that's the thing that I don't like.
Like a lot of people will leverage this sort of conversation and be like,
well, you're just a whore because they know they have an audience that rallies behind them
and says, yeah, yeah, fuck her.
She's a whore and you went viral because you said that.
Fuck that whore.
And it's like, I could very well sit here and do that and be an asshole and get a ton of people
be like, yeah, yeah, fuck that horror.
But then I'm just a piece of shit like I think of someone else being a piece of shit
doing that to me in some other sort of circumstance.
And that's why I don't like that piece of shit, Brian Atlas from the whatever podcast.
You've seen that guy?
The, uh, which is that the, the guy in Santa Barbara.
He looks clean cut, right?
Yeah.
And he has like the eight girls around his table.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then he purposely makes them, fuck.
He's a worst guy ever.
So I,
he makes money.
Like, how does that guy make money?
He,
because he has such,
he has a big fan base.
He,
he does crazy views of these.
His fans are the worst humans on earth.
Pieces of shit.
Anyone that likes him does not like us because they're fucking losers.
And he just purposely clips them to look like idiots and he makes money.
and has this big show off hating on these girls.
So I was Big Daddy, and I called him out.
I said, fuck this guy.
And I drove to Santa Barbara and I debated him on his show.
Thank you, Big Daddy.
Oh, did you?
Yeah.
When did that air?
That went up, yeah, two months ago in August.
But this fucking loser, Brian with his tail between his legs, piece of shit, loser,
scared fuck, brought this other guy, Andrew Wilson, this pro debater.
You seen this guy?
No one debate channel in the world, the debater.
He goes, he brought backup.
Yeah.
Brian didn't say shit.
That's not cool.
He didn't speak.
That's not cool.
Yeah, that's a W for us.
Did we lose the debate?
Maybe to the pro debater, sure.
But we beat Brian outless.
That guy's a master debater.
Yeah.
He's a master debater.
You got it.
I mean, bro, like, dude, people like that are tough, though, man.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not trying to get in all that shit.
Oh, they're nuts.
I just, but I just don't like the, it's just such an obvious thing now where it's like
people rally the side because they know.
But in reality, it's like they're just, like, I could rally a side against you as
porn creators, right?
Yeah.
Who are making money, right?
And then, like, part of the argument is that, like, you're degradating society for money, right?
Yeah.
And then, but then I could just rally the hate towards you, so I'm just getting money.
Yeah.
And it's like, what?
Like, what the fuck am I doing?
And that's Brian Atlas.
So it's weird.
So anyways, I just see that.
So in so many circumstances that I'm just like, we just lost, people seem to be losing
the art, like, which is weird because like all this more technology.
Maybe it's coming back, but the art of like actually just having conversations and
disagreeing and being like, that's great.
Yeah.
Fine.
Like, but trying to understand why.
And it's, it's so easy.
hate it's and it's so but have you ever written a negative comment in your life you know have you
no i literally i haven't never no you know yeah maybe like something to steve but it was like
yeah sure to a joke or some right i think there was a time oh sorry you like you're like you're
commented horror on a girl's instagram no i don't you know what the fuck i don't get the fuck
it's like not in me or cringe or what the fuck is this like anyone commenting that i might
have said it in a conversation yeah yeah sure but you know anyone commenting that it doesn't hurt my feelings
at all like you know i mean if anything you're helping the algorithm you get more views you ever click
their profile and had a lot of respect for the person you know it's enough ger deep yeah what were you
saying i was saying i felt like there was a period last year where i kept consistently going on
red pill podcasts like fresh and fit or um the whatever podcast because i knew that that type of hostility
would create more views um than if i just kind of like talked like a normal person and at some point
I just had to stop because it wasn't making me feel good about myself. I didn't think it was
like really helping my community or what I stood for. Even if I felt like I was making more money
initially by like getting on these like volatile podcasts and like, you know, just having like these like
super intense verbal disagreements, I just felt like I was contributing to like a worst part
of society by like doing that. You know, like I would go on a whatever podcast and I would say some
bullshit and he would say some bullshit. It would go viral and then I would get my money. But then I would
feel like that's just, that's not the ethics that I want to live by. You know, if I'm going to
have like conversations of people that are super different than me, I want to have, I want to find
like some type of middle ground where I feel like we're all people and we're finding some
type of like equal understanding to one another. I'm sorry. You just threw me such a lab. I'm
not going to do it though. What? No, you just do me such a lab about just, anyway, sorry, the phone
rang. I got distracted. No, you said something about, uh, sorry. No, I'm not going to do.
It's bad. It's mean. It's mean. You can go for it. No, because you're like, no. Yeah. Because you're going to say you have, you know, you're like it doesn't align with your morals. It's like, but sucking dick on camera does. Yeah. So I was that was mean. I was, I'm sorry. Like, you know, I don't feel like all the things people do on YouTube or like, I don't think like what whoever did with like that dead person in a force was ethical. It's not what I would do. But we're like the way the ways we create content. You're talking about the different places. That guy keeps catching strings for no reason. I didn't even mention his name.
I didn't know it.
But, you know, yeah, like, having consensual sex on camera with someone that respects me is something that I'm okay with doing.
But being insulted on camera by some, like, fucking dick is, like, not what I'm trying to do.
Yeah, fair, fair, right?
Because it's about perception, right?
If I'm allowing myself to get subjugated by this guy and it's like, we're not real, like, yeah, I actually do think that creates a worse world than me having sex with someone.
Because I don't think having sex is bad.
Fair.
Fair. I'm sorry if that got clipped weird and now it's like I look like I'm a bad guy. I just don't know how it's going to age. Yeah, of course. I mean, whatever. Fuck it. I don't think you're a bad person at all. I don't think either of you are just by FYI. I just like having the conversation. Yeah, but it creates understanding because if you weren't thinking it, your fans were. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I get it. I get it. Fuck, man. What is what is the number one thing that like you, your fans like sort of ask you or try to talk to you about?
I advice on picking up girls actually they see me with the girls and how I can talk to them and how they you know they like me so all day my DMs are you know what do I do I have a micro dick what do I've never been on a date I'm what do I'm a virgin I'm 40 I get a lot of that how common are microdicks is that a thing
does everyone have a micro dick like not anymore well the dick pumps the dick pumps yeah you haven't tried them no oh were you blessed I'm I'm doing good oh good yeah I'm doing good yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was, I was below.
Thank God.
Thank you got.
Right.
Yeah.
Biggest gift you can get is a dick.
It's crazy.
It's like heighten that.
Yeah.
It's like you can't change it.
You really got it all, Brad.
Do you accept the hair, except the hair.
Oh yeah?
Are you bald?
Can you show us?
Yeah.
I didn't know you were bald.
But you can, that's the easiest one to fit.
Adam 22, you've seen his hair now?
Yeah, yeah.
He looks great.
Yeah, I've seen it.
He's hot.
He looks good.
No, he went to Turkey.
Yeah.
My dick used to be like below five.
now it's almost six and a half.
It's six and a quarter pushing six and a half from my pump.
You can say seven now, basically.
Once I'm past half, I think I can say seven.
Yeah, yeah, you can say seven.
But now I'm proud of it.
But fuck, imagine I had this little weiner back in the day.
Yeah.
Just all the way back to a year and a half ago.
It's different, man.
It actually changed.
Oh, yeah.
You're dead serious.
It's true my life.
It's called BathMate, Hydro Extreme 7.
You're just doing an ad.
They dropped me.
They dropped me.
So you're that serious.
Holy fuck.
What do you think?
if you keep going, it'll just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Like, what's the limit of your dick?
It has to be a skin stretch thing.
Every man has two inches to go.
Oh.
But then apparently there's like Taiga.
You fuck Taiga?
No.
You haven't?
No.
Okay.
Apparently Tyga, Dan Bolzerian.
You fucked Dan?
No.
Okay.
They have the fake ones.
What?
Yeah.
Didn't they say, wasn't that like a whole Drake thing got a fake one?
Yeah, exactly.
Like a fake dick?
Yeah.
It's like a, I don't know what it is exactly.
But yeah, it's like, it looks like a,
a cable remote, you know.
But those dicks are fake
because they all have the exact same dick.
It's wiggles.
You saw the Drake video.
That's not, that wasn't
wiggling like a normal dick.
I didn't study the aerodynamics now.
You didn't study the aerodynamics.
Yo, that's a real thing.
Yeah.
And Terry,
what was the email we got yesterday
from a new brand?
Himplant.
Himplant.
I'm like, oh my God, this is it.
Him plant.
Wait, but you're speaking
to something that's like a pump?
Yeah, yeah.
I've been using a dick.
pump from bathmate so you fill it with water you hook it up to a hand pump it like sucks it
and you got to do it every day and it hurts and it's like five to ten it's like working out like a muscle
yeah yeah it's like work you got to upkeep if i go two weeks off you know you start to lose your
your biceps a little damn look that's kind of crazy i don't even know they exist and then this is
the new one hempplant himplant that sounds like a fucking so this one i haven't really looked into it yet
got this email yesterday but bigger and better you and this is what i think like tie goes
Dan Blazary and all got.
Damn.
Yeah.
So do you think it really matters?
Dick size?
Yeah.
It's like, okay, if I'm going to talk candidly, it's like the equivalent would be like if a
girl had like a fat ass and fat tits.
Like is it cool?
Yeah.
It's cool.
But is it necessary?
Like if I like like someone's vibe, it's not necessary.
Like when I like travel through Asia, I'm already like, this is so, no, I should not
have to say that.
Oh, you're hating on your people.
No, I mean, like if I'm in Asia, I just know it's.
It's not going to be like eight plus inches, you know, but I still like have sex with people
that I like over there because I like their vibe.
You know, Canada is bigger than U.S.
Okay.
They did a study.
Just saying.
Okay.
So, I mean, if a guy has a really big dick, lately I've been really into like getting my
pussy eight.
And if a guy doesn't eat pussy, it's grounds for failure no matter how big his dick is.
Oh.
It's just like, it's just so fucking rude.
Like, if you don't eat my pussy, like, kill yourself.
Like, respectfully, like, get the fuck out.
Like, just grow to fuck up.
I, I had to study that craft because of my former small peanuts.
So you got to be an expert.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
I had to do what I can.
You still give head.
Now I, I kept it with me.
Okay.
So now you're like, he's like, I'm giving less head now once he got a stick a little bigger.
You know, it's like a fat girl that got good at giving head and now lost a bunch of weight.
And she's still like, you know, where'd you learn this?
Dude, why?
It's like, you are you went to fat camp, didn't you?
Why is it so accurate?
So fuck.
Do you, wait, do you feel like really hot girls don't give head?
They, they, we all, here's the problem.
We all tell, when we have a dime giving us head, we tell, we lie and we say, oh, this is
fucking, because we're so grateful that this dime piece has given us a blowjob.
I feel like we all give head.
But we, what we lie.
Like Sarah Rose, my friend staying with me for the past few months, right?
She's, every guy I've ever sucked off said best bull job of the life.
Like, it's probably trash.
You're just fucking 11 out of 10 hot.
You would never know.
So then I started calling all her exes without annoying.
That's like psychotic.
Because we were trying to get to the bottom of it.
He's doing market research.
Oh, okay, okay.
You know what I'm talking about.
He's doing market research.
Yeah, when a hot, hot, hot girl that shouldn't be given you a blowjob is we lie.
So they all think they're amazing.
And they never were taught how to properly do it unless they had like a real man boyfriend.
Or like if they were fat fire.
Yeah, like put your hand here like slow down here.
We say that to the ugly girls.
The pretty ones you're like just keep going.
Thank you so much.
Doing great, honey.
Time.
Just going for time here.
Oh my God.
That's funny.
What was your question, though?
Do you think they don't?
Like, do you think like hot girls don't give head?
Like really hot girls?
They don't, they don't think they have to.
Like I'm saying like Sidney Sweeney doesn't give head.
She totally gives them.
Unless she's with a guy she puts above her.
People suck up.
Wow.
Okay.
That's true.
That's life.
Yeah.
You're speaking right now.
That's annoying me.
They suck up.
you know i'm trying to think i've never wow it's going to sound crazy when i say this i've never
not gotten head you're up we up baby yeah is that crazy um no i think even considered the
circumstance i just described to you you would make i would say most girls do give head right
if you're with sidney sweeney and she didn't you wouldn't say shit you'd bite your tongue on
that one like i wouldn't tell anyone no but you wouldn't say to her like come on every girl sucks
my dick, Sidney.
No, I would never say that.
No, I wouldn't say that.
I'd say, like, what are you doing?
You would, though, with the, with the Sydney?
You know, that's where you draw the line.
It's pretty funny.
You think Sidney's that hot?
Sometimes she's, like, not hot.
No, it's her, it's her status, though.
Like, she's her.
It's her status.
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's interesting.
You know?
So for you, it has to always be back and forth.
I wouldn't say anything has to.
It's just kind of like, that's just what I'm here for.
Like, if you're not going to give head or, like, do some type of foreplay, I don't think we should have sex.
And I think that's fair.
Yeah.
You can have sex of a girl that will give you head and doesn't care about getting head back.
Fair.
But I stand by my head.
Do you coach them if they're bad?
I'll live with it.
I'm happy they're doing it.
But usually, I think, like, most guys that give me head are pretty good at it.
You know, I don't like the deep throat thing.
What do you mean?
You don't like deep throat?
When they stop the motion and just go, boom, all the way down and, like, pause.
What are we doing here?
You don't like any deep-read it?
No.
But are they actually deep-roading or are they just letting your like wiener hit the back?
I feel like it's a break for them or something, right?
I can't relate to this conversation.
I'm just going to put it there.
It's never happened.
You don't just keep that hand-mouth motion going.
I don't know how to deep-roat actually.
Really?
No, I learned from Tiana Trump.
I just use my hands in my mouth.
She's a zoo culture girl, isn't she?
Tiana Trump.
No, she's in Houston.
Yeah, she's Houston.
Okay.
I think she might have been there once.
Yeah, I've seen.
So who's the, I guess is there someone,
is there someone you really want to have on your podcast that you have?
Yeah, Johnny Sins.
Well, yeah, I'm trying to work on that motherfucker right now.
He's like a magic arm.
He won't do it.
Yeah.
No, I'm going to get him on my pod.
He did Trevor Wallace's only.
When?
Oh, really?
At AVN two years ago.
No, I'm getting him on my pod.
That doesn't count.
That was an AVN pod.
He did stiff socks, yeah.
That was it.
Only one he's ever done.
I want to do stiff socks.
I'm going to be like interviewing one of the first astronauts.
And then you know what?
I want Lana Rhodes.
You had her on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So she's like an important last Pokemon for me to catch, you know?
She's tough.
And look what she said.
I like Lana.
She wanted money, which is weird.
I mean, that's fine.
I mean.
And then guess the price.
Guess the price.
To have her on your podcast.
Yeah.
When every other guest of all time has done it for free.
And you've, but you have, I'm trying to think your sponsor.
Yeah, that jerk me anything.
I'm guessing the fee
What she asked you
Yeah
Through a guy
It's ridiculous
It's more than you
Would ever think
I was gonna guess 25
Look at that
And then look at my response too
What is it?
Whoa
Wow
Let me see it
Whoa wait hold on
And I read my response
Oh my God
That's too soon
Whoa
She wanted a hundred thousand
Oh shut up
Wow
And I said for 100
I could get Kobe
and Tupac.
You're hilarious.
That's insane.
I guess she thinks,
oh, it's a porn podcast
for me to talk about porn.
Oh, I kind of get it.
Yeah.
She's trying to get the fuck up.
Yeah.
So that's what it is.
A little more,
that's a little more specific.
Because it's not like you were going to get on there
and probably talk about it.
I'm cool with it.
Like Amber's coming on next week.
Amber Rose.
And we agree.
No sex talk.
Cool.
Yeah.
I was going to have her own too.
Yeah.
To her a few weeks ago.
But yeah.
I get it.
She would.
I mean,
she would pull fucking she definitely pull views yeah but i can't fucking afford that that's
rather buy my parents a house yeah that's fair that's fair but the the the jerkmate shit they got to
be fucking paying you a ton it's nuts yeah it's good love you jerk mate you don't think but you don't
think it could be worthwhile well that's crazy that is crazy 20 is insane still 20's insane but like
i mean it's paying it's a write off it could you know i don't know what you know what you know what the deal is
the other thing you could do you could do in your mind because that tax money they're coming
for that probably anyways look the parties i've been throwing have been costing that's good
got it got it and that does more than a lana episode fair you know that's fair that's interesting
you could go viral in different ways yeah like having my umpahs in a 20 person orgy is better than lana
where does that shit do you are you so you're not phil you can't you can't you can't really
oh okay it go yeah oaf he had to edit out 600 faces blur he he's a hard worker tearing
During the Lord's work.
Yeah.
Wait,
because the random people couldn't be in.
Yeah, because we did in front of a whole crowd.
Holy shit.
You know,
on that catwalk stage with everyone around.
Was that on the far back of the house?
Did you see it on the bottom downstairs?
There was like a tennis court where we built a stage.
Oh, yeah.
It was down there.
Yeah.
It was really cold.
Jesus Christ.
You should have seen them.
You know what's crazy?
They're like,
Hey, Ryan, it's cold.
Look at this.
So like, hey, Ryan, we need three minutes to fluff the boys.
So I come out and I'm like, hey, guys, just two more minutes.
Unpas, entertain them.
And then they're backstage.
Look at this.
I took a video of it.
Wait, let me see it.
But this is what's going on behind the scenes.
Where did I find it?
Oh, fuck.
But anyways, there's like a 30-person orgy happening backstage.
I got to find it, eh?
But I can't find it.
And this is like behind the scenes of it?
Oh, here, here.
Yeah, this is behind the stage.
And I come out to this.
I'm like, you guys are nuts, man.
Is that me?
Yeah, you're in it.
Oh, my gosh.
You're getting fucked by like Max Phills.
I've been calling the act.
You're kissing some girl
Lily Lou
Some girl with red hair
Oh my god
What the fuck dude
Imagine like this is just like off cam
You know
It's cold out there
But like
They couldn't come out there
Of softics
You know what's funny
I was completely sober
I was just
Doing it for the long
Well she bailed
Before coming on
I flaked because
Those influencers were
Freaking me out
And I just felt like
I did not deserve to see that
And then I kind of was like
I got to live a little
So I get it
And she's such a vibe setter
For the other girls
Like people look up to Kazumi
You know
And for her to bail
We're Zoomy
Where's Zumi where Zumi
Oh, she's not doing it.
Wow, it is a little cold.
Ah, so there she was like, yeah.
I agreed to do it last minute because last minute she's like, I'm in.
And I went, woo.
Yeah, because everyone was like, come on.
And I was like, I don't like this proud, but I'll do it.
Because it's the influencer crowd.
So I did a live sex show at my birthday party like earlier this year and it was insane.
But I don't allow plus ones and I only invite my personal friends.
So that's like a level of comfort where I'm like, okay, like these people know what's up.
And it's like comfortable for me and comfortable for them to see me get freaking railed in front of them.
But influencers are like, I have like a phobia of them.
So they freak me out.
And I was getting interrupted like nonstop anyways, like pictures taking and stuff like that.
So at first I was like, dude, fuck these people.
Like I almost left really early like you.
And then I kind of was like, ha.
I got to live a little.
Wait what?
Got to live a little.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had fun.
Yeah, you were great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I couldn't do it.
I was like, I get to fuck out of here.
It was also like, like, it's unironic that I wasn't naked, but I was also really cold.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was.
And I was wet naked.
Like, that's crazy.
Yeah, I don't know how the fuck you're doing that.
Well, the sex warms you up.
Yeah, so that's why we were fluffing.
Fluffing.
It's a real thing.
I know, no.
And Sploji is a real thing too.
What's that one?
That's what they spray the stuff.
So it looks like extra cum.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like, uh, like, uh, like, uh, the set of, oh, okay.
To make it look more extra.
And you know something.
Interviewing all these porn stars, I asked them what the rules are.
And a lot of the main rules, well, cream pie is the main one.
They don't want cream pies with their partners.
Right?
Yeah.
That's one for her.
Wait, don't want.
Like porn couples that are both porn stars.
What are your rules?
Okay.
No sex off cam with the other performer.
But the main rule, big one is cream pie is no fluffing.
Guys don't like their porn girlfriend fluffing.
I've never heard of that.
Yeah.
I mean, how do you want to find?
Wait, well, what the fuck is?
Wait, no.
no so so you know like a porn couple man and wife and then they're going off to shoot their own scenes
what are their respected rules don't let her get cream pie yeah but also don't fluff don't suck
the guy's dick to help him get hard before they shoot like he should just be ready yeah and then
don't fuck after why that one is just weird because now it's for pleasure which one the fluffy
one yeah the fluffy one that's so weird so like if the guy has a soft dick like what do it like
Do we just stare at him?
Like what?
Yeah.
That makes it like like life way harder.
If like I could fix it in like four seconds.
Don't get the message.
It's weird.
The rules that are made up are so weird.
Yeah.
Cream pie I kind of got it's kind of a moment.
But that was just like, yeah, I don't, that's yeah.
I don't like cream pies.
I'm not and I don't do cream pies.
But with Reggie?
Well, yeah, that's my boyfriend.
Right.
Yeah, but I don't do cream pies of better people.
Right.
I think that's wild.
Like what Terry.
That's like my life.
Terry was in the mouth, right?
I spat.
Did you?
Did you?
What did Terry actually do this?
Yeah.
That's just cap.
No,
no,
swear to God.
Oh,
you did?
I did it because I love Terry.
Vegas AV.N.
last year.
Okay.
I couldn't tell if it was his joke or not.
No,
no,
that was for real.
Because he's asexual.
He's taking a break from girls.
Yeah.
And only one he's hooked up with is Kazumi in last four years now, I'd say.
It's an honor.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Oh, my God.
Well, fuck, dude.
I think that's it.
It's all I got.
You have a question for me?
You're a podcast host.
I would love to have you on Pillow Talk.
Yeah, I'll come on.
Fucking right.
You came off.
That's an honor.
I don't know what I will talk about, though, man.
Would you want to be main guest or would you want to be a co-host with a porn star?
I don't give a fuck.
Okay.
I don't care.
I think main guest for Brad.
I'll do whatever.
Whatever you want to do is fine.
Yeah, yeah, main guest him.
Why don't we have Zumi co-hosts it?
Same dynamic.
We don't have to talk about sex.
We could talk about.
Yeah, we don't have to talk about sex.
Yeah, let's do that.
Okay.
Just like we did this.
Yeah.
Just enough.
yeah that's fair yeah that's fair okay yeah thank you guys for coming on for real thank you man
i've always looked up to you and i think you're fucking awesome i appreciate bro how was that's such a
weird thing how old are you 32 so weird no but i grew up i i've known the knelt guys forever because we're both
so you know when you started working with that i started following you and senior all your shit
i appreciate it man for sure and we we meant to do something for a while yeah i'm glad we did
yeah yeah thank you and i obviously we don't i know i don't agree on everything but i'm definitely
i hope i didn't make you feel yeah yeah yeah yeah okay good good
I've heard worse
Yeah
Well apparently the whatever guys
Like fuck Brian Atlas
Shots
Yeah
I was supposed to go
You know they invited me to go do that
I was supposed to go do that
Long time ago
Oh don't do it
Don't do it
No
You're not gonna like it
And they don't even know
How to clip shit
Like they're
It's also just so long
It's like a four hour podcast
And there is seven
Seven hours
It's extremely long
And there's like no
It's in Santa Barbara
So you drive there
You get there
You get there
That you make you check her
phone and they pat you down with the security and then he shows up late on purpose he told me off
camera he does this on purpose to make people feel smaller at him they don't know there's no way he said
that to you yeah he's like oh my god why don't you shoot this in l a all your people are in l a he goes
well it's part of them driving here and waiting for me it's part of the whole thing he said it like
that like that so then you check your phone then you're waiting there he's gonna hate this
when he sees yeah yeah fuck you brian atlas you're giving him so much he are it's crazy he's like a tall
white guy. Like, he doesn't have to lose. Yeah. What do you like, I mean, you like, you could just
be normal and like life would be fine. Well, on that note. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. I love you guys.
Subscribe to the channel every Tuesday. I'll see you guys next time. Thank you.