RAWTALK - SEAN O'MALLEY TRIES TO F*#K BRADLEY MARTYN'S CO-HOST | TALKS HIS FUTURE IN THE UFC
Episode Date: January 18, 2022Get in the Cage with the wild and entertaining UFC fighter Sugar Sean O'Malley & his coach Tim Welch! In the octagon we touch on 8 hard hitting topics. We take a few hits at relationships, love, fight...ing, sleep, training camp, the bedroom, senders, and Jess took measurements of the guest. From the judges perspective she was not far off, what do you think?SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://vm.TikTok.com/TTPdQbEqVX/FOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)
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This guy was fucking dead, huh?
Dude.
Too many beans, brother?
Too many.
That's good.
You're talking to, man.
Got the whole crew.
What are you guys?
This guy last minute, he almost flaked on me.
He had to change his flight.
He changed his flight, though.
If you wouldn't have seen me yesterday, I slept, I went about 8 a.m.
What were you doing?
I was doing.
Oh, that was fine.
Did you get anything?
Yeah.
Little something he's not allowed to talk about, though.
Yeah.
He parties, man.
Did party.
A hot chicken meeting?
Is it?
No.
Oh, you want to meet her?
You want to call her?
I'm trying to figure her on the pod.
Why you never have her up?
What's gonna hammer on?
Let's call her.
Where she lives?
This is so funny.
Oh my god.
How far are you from my house?
Oh shit.
Like 25 minutes?
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
How funny?
Who is it?
It's Sean.
Oh, hi.
Hi.
What do you do it?
Yeah, come out of bed.
Yeah, come out, come straight out of bed.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll be there.
Alright, we're gonna start.
You're gonna jump on.
Okay, okay.
Oh, dude.
How old is she?
16.
16, what?
What are you saying?
That's what I have to deal with.
No, no.
Oh, my God.
I didn't, I couldn't even have talked yesterday on a pod, bro.
I'm glad.
You think so? I know so.
Why?
Bro, I slept for two hours.
I was so fucking just tired.
So I felt retarded.
Like, legitimately.
So, like, is.
Are we live?
We're live, right?
Yeah.
Um, so you want to fuck.
my co-host yes okay that's solid i like that um and do you when you when you're like when
you're not training do you party hard because i party with you a few times yeah uh this is really
the first time we went out since the fight right or no yeah i mean we last last the last fight
when i first met you when we hung it was six and steve yeah that was a little bit more crazy
we partied like multiple weekends in a row yeah this one was like the first time we partied since
the fight um
yeah
I don't part
honestly we don't party
that much
yeah I notice that
so when you do party
you like to have fun
you like to go too hard
dude the cities we live in
are like old folks homes
yeah I live in Peoria
there ain't one
nothing going on dude
yeah yeah
the west side
so when you come out here
you guys are like
fucking run it or Miami
when we come out
when I come out
he didn't go out
I was fucking a little
under the weather last week
so I didn't want to run it down again
he got tested yesterday
he was negative
But, yeah, he didn't go out Friday or Saturday.
You didn't go out at all.
I did it.
Do you not like to go?
Because honestly, I don't really, I'm not going out is not really my thing.
Is it, is it our age, dude?
I don't know.
31, mature, right?
Well, when you fucking strike out as much as you do, bud.
Hey, him?
He's over like 30.
He's over 30.
Yeah.
And he doesn't have standards.
I've probably fucked more than last year than you.
What?
Where did that come from?
Jay.
You know, let's see you get a third party here, Jay?
Okay.
I mean, maybe like, you're a little more on Tinder.
In Arizona, you definitely try a lot harder than I do.
Yeah.
I don't try in Arizona, but when we go out, Miami, Texas, here.
So you have like a lady, though, right?
Yeah.
We both do.
We do.
You both do?
Yeah.
I've been dating my girl for about 11 years.
So, like, they're obviously, because you guys are not holding back on this conversation.
They're aware of all this.
I didn't know we're alive.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So both of you do.
It's, what, polyamory.
It's just, I don't even know.
Yeah, it's hard to put a fucking label on it, dude.
But our girls know how guys are.
We've explained to her, like, guys are horny as fuck.
Just because we want to fuck another girl,
it doesn't have to do with you
because you're not good enough
or you're not hot enough.
It just took years to get to this point,
and now it works out pretty good.
But we don't, it's not like a possessive thing.
Like, I don't feel like I own Danny.
And she doesn't own me.
Like, if I want to come to L.A.
And go hang out, like, I'm going.
I'm going to.
you know what I mean so she's going and doing the same thing though
if she wanted to yeah if she wanted to I mean Danny right we have a baby now
she's our little princess is one but if she was like hey I want to go on a trip with
the girls and I'm like no you can't do that like if that's what she would hurt your feelings
though she fucked some other dudes I would deal with those emotions I don't know what
emotion I'm sure I would feel certain things but it all comes on to being insecure and
jealous I mean I guess jealous is probably stems from insecurity but I
I feel like
it definitely wouldn't break us up
we wouldn't break up
we wouldn't even fight
if that's what she wanted to do
that's like what would
how could I say no you can't do that
I just that's where I'm at
in our relationship
it's like we do we do
we do what we want to do
yeah how long you've been with her
I've been with Danny
since I was 20
it's coming up on eight years
damn that's a for real relationship
yeah he's been with Mariah for 11
like we've been with our girls
for a long time
shit yeah
and how
soon did you guys introduce this like hey i'm going to be doing these other things
about seven years into it seven years into it i started explaining to her like how my mind works
and i know it's not because i'm a bad guy like i love you with all my heart you're my best friend
but i want to fuck other chicks and i'd rather not just have that on me cheating and hiding it
and just being a douchebe because i know i'm not a bad person yeah but i like some strange plus
no you guys are are solid dudes like from the moment that i met you guys like even till you know
yesterday when you guys are like yo we're being we're going
back because we planned the podcast and then and then like you guys did some other podcasts and then
obviously you party didn't like couldn't like plan for that and went crazy and you guys push your
flight back just to be on this podcast so thank you guys dude no i felt so bad like yesterday we were
supposed to do the pod it would have i wouldn't have even been able to talk this much i
i had two hours of sleep and just hung the fuck over i felt retarded and the molly hangar's the
worst because you have like your personality i lost i went i fucking was on cloud 700 and i
fucking wish. Where'd you guys go?
Good question.
Some chain smoker's house party.
We went from club, house, house.
Have you ever hooked up with a chick on, on some Ollie's?
Yeah.
That might be the highest high on the planet.
I don't like it.
Yeah, I definitely didn't like it.
Like, I liked it, but after the fact, you're kind of like...
The come down's not worth it.
Yeah.
It's never going to be the same.
Yeah.
You know?
It's just definitely not something I enjoy.
This is back when I was like fucking 20...
You don't enjoy your joy too much.
So you guys had a podcast.
for how long?
Who?
Good question.
Almost three years now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Almost three years.
Are there any other like coach fighters or are there any other fighters in the
space currently who are like active who have a podcast?
Coach Fighters?
Not necessarily coached fighters, but a fighter or a coach or whatever.
I'd say a lot of people do.
Majority, you know, everybody has a fuck podcast now.
Like a bigger one, nothing that I can think.
I mean, like Michael Bismey, I guess he's retired.
Yeah, but with the coach.
Not even necessarily with.
the coach is a fighter or a coach
tail son and does good i see them in the podcast but no
current fighters i think there's a lot
but then you know you know how podcasting is
fucking hard you got to do it every single week i think
they try it for a couple weeks and then it's like fuck it's hard very
inconsistent yeah ours has been very consistent for sure i mean you guys
am crushing it like you crushed it but this is the thing with you like before
i ever met you like i saw you fight and i was like holy fuck who is this dude this dude is
so entertaining which fight was it do you remember god damn it must have been like
Did it rainbow hair?
Or was it before the hair?
No, you had, you had rainbow hair.
Yeah.
When I first saw you.
And it was in the UFC.
Yeah, a lot of people first saw my, like, the Eddie Weinland fight when I knocked that dude off, walk away.
It was the first time I did the six nine hair, the rainbow hair.
That was probably it.
Yeah.
And because I saw you and I was like, I literally remember thinking like, yo, this guy's going to be like, and this is no disrespect at all.
The next Connor McGregor.
And I say that obviously lightly.
I just meant like in the sense of like stardom.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
100%.
Because when I saw you, like, you fight, like just, you just, you just.
you just were entertaining and i i legit was like who the fuck is this guy and i immediately went to your
socials and then meet you in person i was like dude this dude's fucking dope that was
fucking fun because we met right in miami um i remember that oh wait is that the the baseball game
the six nine's fucking yeah we met when he was like in the band right did were you you were there
when steve picked us up in the van yeah yeah yeah that's right that was fucking crazy yeah but you're
just like it's it's crazy how how how how successful you're
You are obviously in the fight game currently, but also on social.
Like, what do you think made that different for you besides like, you know, the flamboyant,
the colorful hair, all that shit?
I think I just enjoy it.
It's not like trying to get a bag thing.
It's more of like an enjoyment thing.
Like it's just, I just be myself and I'm fucking funny and hot.
Which at the beginning, like posting about weed and posting all this shit got a lot of flack from parents.
People saying the UFC's not going to like it.
Sponsors aren't going to like it.
So like five years ago, probably.
But truly just having the nuts to just be like, fuck it.
I'm just going to be myself.
I'm gonna post it.
But didn't ideas did the weed thing
like, well, long time ago, no?
Yeah.
But he just owned it.
It was like, fuck it, I don't care.
He was like the only one really doing it.
But yeah, but I'd get calls for my dad.
Like, I can't believe we posted out.
Like, like, well, adults would be like,
hey, you're not gonna get sponsors.
And like, I don't, but that's what I like about you.
You just don't, it's just, you just don't give a fuck.
You're just yourself, like unapologetically.
Yeah.
And I think that's why a lot of people are gravitated towards you.
Yeah.
No, I definitely, I agree.
But the crazy thing is even before I met you and I know that about you and I could see that on your socials,
there was something special like you in the ring fighting was like super fucking entertaining.
What do you think like created that?
How are you creating?
Obviously you like fuck around while you're, it's like you're fucking around while you're fighting.
Like the thing that I was always tripped on was you'd be fighting and you'd be like, you'd like do the look back.
Yeah.
That was the one that really fucks me up, dude.
I mean, I spin so fast that if I do a little motion like that, you have to either react to my, I'm going to spin or I'm going to fake spin,
and then come on the opposite side.
So, I mean, anytime I do stuff,
or the dribble in a basketball,
I mean, they're all faints.
They're all setups.
They're all tricks.
I mean, when I'm in there,
I'm 100% serious.
I'm trying to win.
That's it.
Like, I'm not trying.
I'm not going to do anything to waste energy
that I think just to entertain.
So these are faints.
Every time I'm doing,
anytime I'm doing anything,
it's a setup.
Yeah.
So it's definitely,
uh,
it's not just for the fans entertainment.
It just looks,
I mean,
I guess it kind of looks like that.
Are people like in slow motion for you?
Because like,
I'm just curious,
It's like when you're fighting, and obviously we see it on the outside.
We're like, you know, he's hitting, like, you're just hitting these shots.
Does it ever feel like the other guy is just like super slow?
I've definitely been in there with people.
I'm like, oh, fuck, this guy is like.
Dude, a majority of the people, because we train with such good motherfuckers.
And sugar is so fast, both sides.
And if you watch some of his fights from when he was 16, 17 years old, he'd have his hands down.
He's a little lanky twig.
But we got with this strength and conditioning coach named Brandon Harris.
And he's put on some serious size, some serious explode.
like muscles and now he's super healthy growing into his body a little bit and we're just
working around those strengths that when he was 16 17 years old and just building on those
yeah because you you've like it's like you're just so fucking quick man you're so explosive i think
just i grew up an athlete i didn't i didn't start fighting until 16 i remember my dad would watch
ufc when it was like 13 14 i thought i was so fucked up dude like i didn't understand how you
kick him in the body and the ribs wouldn't break and then punch him in the head and they like
I didn't like it.
I fucking hated it.
But I grew up playing basketball,
soccer, baseball,
football.
So I was just like an athlete.
And then my buddy's like,
hey,
you want to check out a fighting gym?
And I was just insecure.
And I was like,
I'm going to get some chicks.
16.
Okay.
I'm going to get some chicks.
Because you were like,
I'm going to learn how to fight.
I'm going to learn how the girls are going to think that's cool.
Yeah.
That's what like was pretty much one of the main reasons I got in the fight.
Dude,
probably a majority of fighters are doing it for the chicks or just wanting to.
I feel like majority dudes do everything for chicks.
like working out all this shit is like building something's like confidence so you're like
I can go do this yeah and which is funny too man I love the shit you'll post like after
your fight you're like I'm here for like all the something and all that's fucking
bro that shit is so funny. Roy Jones Jr. baby that's a quote all the pussy to come with
it yeah that can't be touched song can't be tough yeah it's just it's funny man like your
personality is really like really like your socials show your personality and it's
cool Danny my girl's just like one of the first conversations I had with Danny
I met her was like, I don't get, I was 19, 20 years old.
I'm I don't get a guy, I could just fuck one girl for the rest of her life.
She said that to, no, I said that to her.
It was like one of our first conversations we ever had.
Like, when we fell in love, she knew who she was falling in love with.
Like, it wasn't like, I pretended to be this guy and then it was like, hey, I want to fuck chicks.
Yeah.
But it was, it was, and I think that's why it works, but Danny allows me to be able to be myself.
Like, I don't have to really fake being anything.
I mean, that's genuine love.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, really is.
It is deep, it's deep love.
Because being in an open relationship going through certain.
things like you uncomfortable talks uncomfortable conversations grow you makes you grow a
a fuck ton have you ever had to experience her being with someone else no but i've i've
almost like she told me like i was fucking this one chick for a while like she knew and like
she's like well i want to fuck someone and she wanted to fuck one of my buddies and i messaged him
and said hey you know what kind of relationship we're in like if she hits you up like i'm not
going to be mad at you yeah and nothing ever ended up happening but i got to the point or i felt
those emotions and I was like fuck this would be hard dude but I can't say I can't I would not say no
and I can't be mad at her or him or whatever and it was it was tough it never ended up happening
but I got to a point mentally where I was okay with it which it's a fucking crazy point I never
thought like my 16 17 18 year old self could never even say that like be okay with that
yeah but it it comes on insecurity to it's cool you had Aubrey on the podcast because we've
learned a lot for him love that guy at first I listen to his podcast probably six years ago
And I was like, oh, damn, there's a different way you can go about relationships.
So we started reading books, listening to Esther Perel,
listening to reading the books, mastery of love, and just learning about it.
And be like, damn, there's actually a different way you can do it.
Yeah, well, I think the thing comes down to, like, that the backbone of it is how you said,
like, from jump, you're like, hey, this is who I am.
This is where I'm at.
This is what I want.
I cheated on every girl I've ever been with.
And I just, I'm like, I don't, I added that.
And ever since I started talking to girls in high school, it's like,
was still talking to other girls.
I never was able to just talk to one girl.
And the thing is I think that's like literally most dudes.
Yeah.
For the most part.
And I think there's a lot of girls too, honestly.
Like girls that aren't just fucking, I mean, they'll say they are because they want it to be like a, they don't want the guy to talk to other girls.
But dude, I have girls are just as fucking horny as us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude.
And it's like, name one marriage or one guy that you've just, you've never heard him talk about another girl or around the boys and being around the boys.
And it's like, okay, I pick this girl to be my best friend, my partner.
I want to be able to be myself around her and tell her whatever I want instead of having
to be like, I'm this person with this girl.
But yeah, it's the honesty, man.
Like I said from the beginning.
Like as soon as you can introduce that in the same thing like when you're going, when guys are
going for girls like instead of like trying to like feed a girl what you know they want
to hear.
Steiny.
I'm sorry?
Yeah.
Stiny.
Stiny.
Yeah.
Or try to flex at the same time.
But it is.
It's the honesty.
Yeah.
And of like this is, this is where I'm at.
Because a lot of guys will play that role like trying to tell.
someone what they know they want to hear to get like the pussy or like you know to get the
relationship and eventually like it should just goes to shit it's just it's crazy how we don't
understand it like I mean we do but a lot of people they play that role because they think it's like
the safe way or they've then taught that like that's the norm that you have to you have to have
relationships this way but like where did you so did you start thinking about this through
obrey or was this like yeah through Aubrey's podcast I was like damn dude there literally is
another I didn't even know about like like we don't put up like
labels on it, but open relationships
and polar amory, I'm like, damn, this is a real thing
because, like, my parents got divorced.
Everyone's fucking parents got
divorced. I'm like, there's got to be a different
way to go about it than just, there's two
options. You be with this woman or you be
a shitty person and cheat and lie like
everyone usually does. Because you're right about
that. I'm trying to think of how many relationships
I've heard where the guy is, even
for time, for like years, it never talks
about another girl. It just doesn't exist.
I don't know any couple really
that's just happy,
monogamous that's just i mean i i got i couldn't name one but we started talking to our girls
like similar times like about it more and in in like uh when we started learning about
that there was another way of relationships it was we were kind of like do talking to our girls
at the same time yeah so and i think that helped a lot too because they knew each other yeah dany
and maria are really good friends and like they talk and they the thing that helps so much is
that they they wanted to learn about it too so they could understand how to deal with
the emotions that came up so they would listen to podcasts they would read books they would talk
to each other and in that fucking helped a ton the girls being able to talk to each other about
everything yeah like how do you think you if you're a normal guy listen to this if you're like
how would you approach a girl and like even because so tough i would hate to have to go
dude i i think you have to be super super like in love and everything good between you guys you
guys have good sex you guys have good communication um and like yeah that's that you have to have
good communication and maybe watch porn with your partner once and then just kind of see what
they're into and be able to just open up a little bit and be like okay let's talk about this stuff
a little bit maybe maybe bring in a threesome and just like try some shit out dude but it's like
he like he said it's not just like this easy thing like we did we still have rules and it's just
not like there's oh yeah it's just all breezy you have to go through tough conversations that
most people want to avoid completely what what are the rules like what kind of rules
Wear a condom
What is one for me
Throw one out there
You gotta wear a condom
Like right now
Our rule is like
I can't fuck a chick more than once
So then because then you're gonna start
Building a relationship
And the girls need to know
That I'm in a relationship
That's nice though
If you can tell a girl
Like hey
I got a girl
And then it like
That makes it a lot easier
You don't want to lead someone on too
Right
Yeah that's what I'm saying
Like this honesty
In how you're going about anything
When I fuck a girl
They know I got a girl
And that fucks them up
They're like wait
Wait what?
They're okay with it?
You're like, I mean, yeah, and they're like, for sure.
So I was hearing some stuff about this sleep.
You do some crazy shit with your sleep.
That's like, the first time I started getting into sleeping was the Matthew Walker podcast with Joe Rogo, which was probably what?
Five years ago, something like that.
And it fucking complete, like, my life is based around performance.
100%.
Not right now.
And it's weird saying that right now because I'm out of camp.
I'm like, I'm not training.
I'm not all my shit.
But I still have good routines, still good.
good sleeping habits, but yeah, sleeping is the number one performance enhancer at 100%.
What, what do you do to cultivate it?
What are you doing?
Yeah, I got my sleep down so good.
I think for me, I hot tub, cold plunge every night.
I got those over here.
So nice, dude.
Turning off electronics, like, not just fucking on your phone until you fall.
The blue light stuff.
I have a chili pad that you can set at whatever temperature you want and just having your room be made for sleep.
like you go in your room and that's your time to fucking wind down and sleep sleep in a big thing too is caffeine like a lot of people will have caffeine has like a half life of eight hours so if you have a 400 or 200 milligrams of caffeine at fucking 2 p.m. in 8 hours you're still going to have half half that caffeine running through your body so yeah well I'll do that that helps a ton I'm very sensitive to that caffeine I have my coffee in the morning and I won't do caffeine past noon like I can't do it I'll be up all night I am
So sensitive to caffeine.
Like if I can't even have more than like 300 a day.
Yeah.
But it's like for me, yeah, I've noticed that if I drink caffeine anywhere around like two,
three, four, five o'clock, I'm having a hard time sleeping for sure.
And I don't think a lot of people realize that.
Like a lot of people don't even know that that's happening.
They're sipping a fucking red bull at 9 p.m. surfing.
I'm anxious.
I was talking to Isaiah, one of the guys who lives in my house and he was talking
about how he has been having a hard time sleeping.
And I was like, when's the last time you had caffeine?
Like, how often you have caffeine?
He's like, oh, I just had a cup.
It was like six o'clock at night.
He had a whole cup of coffee.
I'm like, dude, this is like, because those people don't realize that caffeine is,
is competing for the same receptors as the, the things that are going to help you fall asleep.
And they're going to hold on to those things because they're stronger and they're not going to allow the sleep,
the serotonin, the melatonin to be produced.
So it's like, people don't realize that.
But what do you notice when like your sleep's really good versus not good?
Like does it completely- Mental, like anxiety, depression, none of that.
I feel way more clear-headed and I can find peace a lot easier when I'm sleeping good.
But if I'm not sleeping good, like these last two nights I haven't slept good, I just feel like, I'm like, fuck.
And I drank alcohol, which is, of course.
What about food?
How does food relate to your sleep?
Food, dude, eating too close to bed, stuffing your face, eating too much sugar before bed.
Like, I've gotten down, I'm able to, like, have a little dark piece of dark chocolate peanut butter for a dessert.
It's a perfect little sweet tooth, tops you off, especially in fight camp, dude.
I'll eat around 7, 7.30
And I won't go to bed with a full stomach.
I'm not trying to digest my food while I'm sleeping.
And I think that plays a huge role in how you sleep.
Who's helped you with your, like, nutrition stuff?
I have a guy named Dan Garner, who, I mean, I do, I send, I get blood tests done.
He looks over all my stuff, stool, fucking piss, saliva.
How often do you get your blood work done?
A couple times a year.
So I'm going to do it.
I did one before I left.
He said it take about three, four weeks.
He'll write up a diet for out of camp right now.
them out of camp will do it out of camp diet for however long until i get back into camp
then we'll switch it up to in camp diet um but that that that's huge with inflammation
like when i'm in training camp and i'm eating perfect outside of training camp i don't eat perfect
i don't eat shit but i don't eat perfect inside of training camp dude i feel like a fucking
machine if i'm eating my diet eating the right stuff not eating stuff that's causing inflammation
to my muscles in my body i i feel like a fucking machine so when you when you say like a machine
is it just like you just feel sharper faster like yeah i get more out of my training sessions i
recover faster you know mentally i just i feel really good on a brain fog yeah sharp i feel sharp yeah
do you have any like meditation type practices that you do yeah heavily because i've been seeing
on twitter and stuff like having all this social media and having all this like uh being a youtube
and having all this pressure to constantly put out content constantly up it it's gotta come with some
shit oh bro it's fucking it's like if i didn't do stuff like that i think i've lost my mind by now
because it's this constant need for more constant need for what's next constant need for doing something
better than before and i've been doing this shit for like 10 years yeah not youtube but like instagram
forever like since 2011 so yeah there's this constant pressure for more um i started getting into meditation
probably about like three years ago and i've only gotten better at it because i've like done it
more the thing I realized like first is I shouldn't only meditate when like I'm feeling anxiety you
know what I'm saying like it was normally it was like a reaction whereas like if I'm feeling it
then I'm like okay I'm going to try and meditate now versus meditating like when I'm completely
calm and like garnering that ability to like find that center right to find that like relaxation
without having to like I'm trying to fix what's this problem that's happening right now
does that make sense yeah yeah it seems like when you're not consistent with
it like consistent like everything is like fuck dude yeah it's like everything is like that though
yeah if you're not consistent in communication if you're not consisted in like your training your diet
like it's everything just is fluid yeah so the more that i stay on it the more that i just feel
just better as a more you get out of it yeah the more i get out of it as well i do i i start my
mornings with it so fucking important for me i can i can really tell if i don't meditate throughout
the day how many how many years has it been for well when whenever you broke your jaw you kind of
like started getting into it and you're like dude like this is actually pretty fucking
how many years ago was that was that four years ago now four or five years ago
it was that day that or that was that was that was that was that old shit but that was that
long ago Connor fought Floyd what yeah so I don't know if that was that long ago
four years ago because I was living with and dad dad and stuff so it was it was a while
it was a long time ago yeah so you do it every morning dude I do I didn't I don't I didn't
do it a couple mornings ago because i went to bed at eight but i did it this morning just like 10 minutes
kicked my feet up against the wall and just it wasn't a it wasn't like a great session to
where i was just called my mind was just fucking what's your process like i i do an app um a couple
different apps this one like this morning i did 10% they have a like a morning selection you can
choose from i just click on one of those 10 minutes and headphones on i didn't have headphones on
this morning but it was uh that that does help when it's just fucking in your ears but i mean even
even yeah even like i can i can definitely tell if i'd
Don't.
Dude,
reading that Tim Ferriss,
the Tools of Titans book
and all those powerful people,
just every single one of them talking about
how important it is
and how much to change them,
their lives.
I can't imagine in L.A.,
like all these YouTubers,
like you're a healthy guy
and you're like a smarter guy,
but some of these guys
that have this unhealthy lifestyle,
it's like,
God,
they have to be fucking going crazy in their head.
Yeah, especially with like the drinking
and the party and all that,
that being like a part of the stuff
that like maybe they feel like they have to do.
I think the blessing that I've had
is that like I've been so focused
my whole career physically.
They're like,
I've got to the mental aspect of it sooner, but it is so real, like, working on your mental
is just as important as working on your physical.
Like if someone's like, I want to, right?
Yeah, if not way more.
But it's like I've got into it because like, you know, those things, those past kind of cross.
That's exactly what happened to us, really.
Yeah, but I just don't think people realize how important it is because like meditating
still sounds just like, even when I talk about it, people listening are like hippie shit.
Yeah.
Still sounds like hippie shit, but it's like, dude, this is, if you're watching, this is, if you're
watching this podcast you're into working out if you watch any of myself you're into working out your
mind game is 10 times if not like a thousand times more important than your physical because the thing that
pushes your physical is your mind and if your mind's not there it's not thinking like you're talking about
your clarity all this stuff that happens to you when you're when you're focused on your sleeping and your
food so now you're able to get in the ring and like be sharp as fuck and that guy feels like slow motion
and you feel like lightning quick it's because you've done all that practice yeah I think people get so
focused on, okay, I'm just going to, I got to train. Obviously, you need to train. You need to learn
the techniques, the jihitsu stuff, the striking stuff. That's all, it's all kind of equally as
important, but like it's coming from here. Yeah. Dude. And when you're, especially with him,
like, he's got a lot of pressure on him and being in an arena packed with 25,000 people, this last
fight having a fucking rib injury. There's a lot of things your mind can start focusing it on.
But being able to be present in the ring, feeling his feet in the cage and just being able to let
it go is a big reason why he's yeah like i'm curious because like you definitely have more
popularity than like probably all the fighters in the ufc right now yeah i mean just straight up
just from what i see from the outside yeah besides like maybe they're if they're talking about like
i mean even still know you do even even like the top fight yeah i don't think i'm up there top three
right now like as far as popularity goes and not hardcore fans but just like random people but
people know people who know you yeah so like when you you you're like so like when you
you get you must have like like when you're walking out are you just like super like this is mine
or are you like um i'm i've a lot of it's kind of a mantra just like mantra too sharp too fast
too focused like saying that over and over and over you repeat this to yourself just in my head
or i'll say it out loud like when i was walking out obviously i was coming out to the new six nine
like that song i was kind of singing it to myself whatever but i think mancha is very important
monsion just like following my breath in the in the back cage or in the backstage before i go out
fight i'm in like such a deep meditative state like usually i can't even get to that kind of state
if i sat and meditated for 10 minutes usually like i i'm meditating basically the whole time in
the back is it is it is it is not anger i don't fight angry i'm so calm dude it's like it's fucking
weird like i'm just dude elite elite people you can't fight with emotions yeah you just can't
it's just too tactical i want people to get emotional when i fight when they fight me you know what i
mean like that's kind of when you use more energy you're like they're slower if they're
fucking like, I want to hit this guy.
It's like they're even a little bit slower than they feel already.
Like, um, so yeah, if I can get them emotional with me staying calm, it's, that's superb.
Yeah.
But yeah, in the back, in the back, I'm just like breathing and fucking, it's just like such a
calm feeling back there.
But it's funny because like, uh, Juliana Pena was in the back with us and like her emotion
and energy so much different.
Everyone's different, but hers was like, like an anxiety like, I just want to go in there
get this over with.
Yeah.
That's the girl who beat Nunez, right?
And she went out there and performed, too.
That was a fucking crazy fight.
Well, I still haven't got to watch it, but the fact that she finished her was fucking crazy.
She's from kind of like the Northwest from us, and she's always comes fucking game, dude.
She's going to make you fight regardless.
But for someone like her, her style, maybe like emotion plays into a little bit.
She's not super technical.
She's just kind of a scrappy brawler, like a good wrestler.
And he's super technical.
His eyes are open, super technical, waiting for this dude to make a mistake,
waiting for them to overcommit.
So maybe for, I think some people, emotions might be good.
But I think for the really elite guys, I don't think it's good.
Yeah, like when you're fighting, are you more reactive?
Like you more like?
I'm reactive.
I'm like offense, defense all the whole time.
Like I'm, my offense is trying to get them to throw so I can counter.
But also if they don't throw, I can still be very effective without them.
So I can fight going back.
backwards or forward which is do you have a favorite fucking punch or favorite move or
i just something that always feels good i feel like i'm just dancing in there dude i feel like
just performing in general it's just the best how did you guys meet uh tinder
grinder i i i was uh fighting in bellator at the time and i went to great falls montana
where i'm from yeah uh to commentate some local fights and i was watching him fight when he was
16 i was kind of keep my eye on i'm like oh this kid's pretty sparky but he doesn't know how to work
card but then i went there so he thought saw him submit like a college wrestler from his back and i
knew he trained at a gym that didn't you submitted a college wrestler yeah okay when i was 18 like i knew
literally one i knew an arm bar off my back and this fucking i arm bar this kid the one he was at
yeah and that yeah and then after the fight i said hey you want to come down to phoenix and
and train with me at like a real gym and just see how you do and a little crazy fucker he's just
like yeah yeah yeah yeah he's calling me i'm like yeah whatever so i think came down for a week
got beat up bad and ended up leaving i'm like i bet we won't see him
I ended up leaving just because of my flight.
Like I came down for 10 days.
Dude,
after every session,
I was like,
what the fuck?
Because I thought I was the man.
I came down to Phoenix.
And this is in wrestling.
This wasn't just MMA.
At the MMA lab is like a high level gym.
So you guys are striking and.
In grappling.
Yeah,
yeah.
We're a bunch of pros.
There's guys.
There's guys in Trenu.
There's guys in Belator.
So I came down from Montana thinking I was the shit and realized very quickly.
First day,
I was not the shit.
I was 18 at that time.
Okay.
When I flew down and checked it out for the first time.
But then I flew back.
flew back home saved up $2,000
got my fucking 2006
Nissan Ultima and drove down
never lived without my, like away from my parents
and we got an apartment
and fucking. It's been grinding.
I haven't lost in. So just the time time periods now
so everyone listening knows in case they don't. How old are you right now?
27. 27. Yeah. I've been, so I've been training for
11 years. Damn.
So what do you, what do you, because you guys
have been, he's been coaching you for how many years?
Well, he was, when I moved to the lab,
he was still fighting. He was in Bellator. He was still
fighting. But every time I had a fight coming
up he would go there with me he would hold mids he'd kind of turn from fighter to coach for those last
couple weeks yeah and then uh like i started getting a bunch of surgeries like i tore this bicep
completely before my ultimate fighter fight and then uh like as soon as this one healed i fucking tore
this one up my bicep like how rare is that doing what punching people do and just like
ripping my fucking arms and then um and then after that healed up i had my fight and i broke my jaw
broke my jaw completely so then i just started reading a lot getting into men and
Meditation like learn about Tim Ferriss learn a lot of podcasts and then I just started focus on helping sugar a lot more and then what do you think that may what do you think that he does for you the most
Um as a coach
Well, how to so it's a it's a it's a open any question for sure, but something that you like you could identify like the thing that maybe he helps you with the most or yeah. Well, I think we train training together like he knows he knows he knows my striking he knows my setup. He knows the combos I like to throw more than anyone we've been hitting mids
for fucking seven years together
he's watched a lot of my sparring
obviously watched all he's at all my fights
but we grapple together too he's not
he feels what I'm capable of
and what I'm not as good at he knows where to
help me more than
a coach that doesn't really train with me
that you know what I mean yeah like we grapple together
yeah we go live go live rounds
and uh so that's very how much you weigh
um 190 95
but but yeah I'm 155
and I when we have competition training
there's a bunch of guys at the gym
So you train with a bunch of different body types.
If I'm in training camp for a fight,
usually I'll kind of stick around guys, my weight and stuff.
But when we're doing jihitsu competition training,
like you go to a room,
it's a bunch of different body types, body styles.
And I think, though, a lot what helped us, too,
is just we both started reading books at the same time
and really reading and then sharing a book with him,
sharing a book, and then sending articles
and just constantly trying to improve.
Like, especially in MMA, there's just so much to improve at.
You can prove it wrestling,
prove your jiu-jitsu improve your boxing
improve your moitai improve your diet
improve your recovery there's just so much
so we're just constantly
it's been our passion for the last 10 years
so it hasn't been hard to do that
you know what I mean and constantly improving
and bouncing back and forth things helped a lot
do you do you think fighters
and this probably sounds like a dumb question to you guys
and maybe to people listening
being smarter makes you a better fighter
that's a good question
I think
a hundred
a hundred percent some people are so stupid they're just still like I guess they're not
going to be the elite elite elite though yeah that's what I'm talking about right a top five
guy that's not very smart there's just not that many there used to be in previous years but now
it's just the game's changing so much everyone's still dude some people train over train way
too much and it's a mental thing like uh I heard it takes confidence to take a day off I feel
like I've got training camps dialed in to where I used to be doing say 12 practice
is a week now I'm doing like seven or eight and it's like those ones that I'm not doing
are just as important as the ones I am doing yeah and that's that's something I've I've
really gotten good at it's just dialing in training camps and fucking and uh knowing when to take
it's interesting I mean it's the same thing in like bodybuilding is like knowing when to like
pump the brakes a little bit when to like switch up your you're not necessarily switch it up
but you need rest just as much as you need action yeah absolutely and I think a lot of people
don't recognize that or understand that and like I think probably a lot of people when they
first get into
MMA or any sort of fighting
like they just more and more and more
And I almost think you have to
When you first start out
It's like you got a lot of time to catch up
You want to be good
You want to just be in the gym all the fucking time
And it's like
I mean there is some benefit to that
Is like establishing a good work ethic
And being at the gym
Probably too much
But once you get to a certain level
You'll be like okay
Now it's
Yeah I think the last two years
A big part of his success
Is this coach that we have
He trains me to
His name's Brandon Harris
like he he doesn't just beat you down all right we're deadlifting day we're just going to kill you today
oh this is a physical yeah yeah our strength conditioning coach and he's he's he's um big on meditation
too he's just been a good fucking mentor to us and a sugar's like a fucking like a Ferrari and he
gets injured easy but brandon's helped us a lot that's so funny because it's like a Ferrari yeah yeah
yeah no I haven't been getting injured nearly as much as I started working with him though
because I started lifting yeah I never lifted until I met him and then I started lifting and
not just lifting, but lifting correct, not fucking...
Has that made a big difference in your fights?
Dude, I feel like I'm stronger, faster, more durable.
It's been huge.
They're not focused on like the physical training, not obviously, like, jiu-jitsu and
striking, but like sports performance, like weightlifting.
I think they don't focus on that.
And I do it, I mean, and I think some people don't and then some people too much.
Like, there's definitely a sweet spot to where I'm doing it like two, three times a week.
Do you deadlift?
Yeah, we'll deadlift.
Do you squat?
Don't really squat much.
Don't squat much.
And what other performance exercises do you do?
A lot of ISOs, like, isols with, uh, I'm super curious in this.
Yeah.
I fucking, dude, the thing is so nice about that is I don't have to, I don't have to think about it.
I go there and I trust him that he's going to, that he's going to, that he's going to, because, dude, he thinks, he thinks very deep into my training camps and outside my training camps and what he has blocks, like, we're going to build this, this, this, this is.
And I just can trust him.
And I don't have to fucking think about what we're doing.
Yeah.
I don't have to.
Because that's not what I'm thinking about jiu-jitsu.
I'm thinking about striking.
I'm thinking about chicks.
Yeah,
yeah, of course.
And he lives it too.
When you're in Phoenix,
you should come train with us one time.
I will.
I will.
I want to fucking spar you.
Okay.
But it's got to be a 10-minute round.
No,
10 minutes.
10 minutes?
He's like 30s.
No,
I'll be done in like fucking four, dude.
I love how you go.
Okay.
I got to,
well,
I just have a cage in my garage.
I just took it down.
How fast you think you beat me in a fight like two minutes?
Depends on what is your car?
Dude,
I don't know,
you're a big motherfucker.
I don't think I've grappled someone as big as you, dude.
So funny,
man.
No.
But I feel like I would just be getting tagged up.
I'd come in,
I'd just be getting tagged like.
He'd at least,
at least like four times before I'd get my hands on you.
Yeah.
Well, the body shots is probably what would add up.
I'd have to kick you in the stomach a lot.
I didn't fucking.
Shit with sog, dude.
How tall are you?
So I was 6-3.
Six-three?
I mean, fuck.
260 right now that's a different kind of yeah I mean a heavyweight I'm a heavyweight
yeah so it'd be like I'm a fucking full on heavy weight have you ever like sparred or worked
with heavy weights um kind of just fucking around but for the most part like that's how you get injured
yeah you know what I mean I if ideally I stay around my weight when it comes to sparring like
actually hitting each other you you kind of just you want to spar with your guys your size
like when it comes to just grappling jiu jitsu you can spar with bigger guys like
him and I can roll because we're not I'm not gonna get hurt yeah there's no like
yeah yeah I guess you could like overexert you jumping in here yeah yeah okay he
personally requested you he said where's your my little brother oh my god he's fan growing
really yeah I was like do you know who's sugar Sean O'Malley yeah you can tell you
he wants to have sex with you what I didn't know he wants to have sex with my brother
no with you he wants to have he said that's what he said you want to have sex with me
what's the reason he's nervous now he's he's no he
He looked at you like, fuck.
You did say that.
Well, I'm right in here, so.
Well, it's not going to happen right now.
Hold on.
I said something similar to that.
Yes, I did.
Similar.
What was the exact wording in the thought process behind it?
Were we live when it happened?
I think we were live, yeah.
You can go watch the replay.
Yeah, we might have been FaceTime and you.
Doesn't matter.
Okay.
Sounds good.
Yes.
So what do you watch the podcast before then?
Yeah.
Oh, good.
So like your outfit.
Thank you.
I just got out of bed.
I put it on just for you.
Oh, thank you.
I was going to come in my pajamas,
but I thought I'd impress you.
That would have worked.
I noticed you didn't wear the heels today.
I didn't wear the heels today, no.
I got a lot of shit for them from Bryce.
It hurt my feelings.
Oh, it's okay.
It made me feel bad.
I almost showed the toes, though.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Are you like, you're a toe?
I'm not.
Do you like toes?
Fuck, no.
You missed it.
We were talking about, um, they, they both have open relationships with their girls.
No, don't.
Really?
Like, no.
Full on.
Wow.
Yeah.
God bless her.
Have you ever, have you ever considered doing that?
Or would you ever do something like that?
Absolutely.
not.
Yeah.
How come?
Because I'm the kind of person.
I know it sounds bad, but like I just, I need that, like, possessive factor.
I want them to only want to be with me.
That's, yeah.
Good luck, finding that.
Exactly.
Yeah, it hasn't worked out well so far.
22.
22?
You never know.
You can find a good Christian boy.
That's what I'm thinking.
That's like really good at Lyon.
Maybe a Verpit.
That's really good at Lyon.
No, I only want to be with you.
Exactly.
And trust me, I know it's, like, unrealistic.
It's not something that's probably going to happen or something that happens naturally, but
you never know my ideal but what makes you want to be in an open relationship just that's just
who i just i don't know is it being is it being an alpha male is it just i am i guess we are
alpha males i mean you definitely you definitely are i mean you fight people for olivian which i think
is so cool by the way like that concept do you ever trip on that that like it's trippy you're
literally like you're obviously without the death you're like a gladiator they pay people like
you're literally in a ring and people are watching you fight another man like to whoever wins it is
But I feel like I'm more of a lover than a fighter.
Like I never really think of myself as a fighter.
Yeah, it's more athletic.
I'm just like, it's a competition for me.
It's like, it's just like any other.
Yeah, but you're like physically beating someone up.
Like, I know what you're saying.
When I knock someone out, I act genuinely, like, have like a feeling like, I feel bad because I know what concussion.
I've had concussions.
Yeah.
They fuck you up.
You can get brain damage from that.
So I genuinely feel bad after I fuck someone up.
Yeah.
But it's, oh God, it's so cool to me.
Have you like ever hurt somebody like genuinely really?
hurt somebody like long-lasting damage probably I mean that's the thing like there's all
this stuff now like the CTE shit like people getting like actual brain yeah that fight I was
watching I was like I was also shocked how many punches that kid could take like his head like no
seriously you know you probably didn't see this fight but this guy got hit like 200 times yeah like literally
I'm watching the fight like just end this shit oh my gosh you know but I was just getting like beat the
fuck up at some point don't they call it yeah yes but i'm telling you it was literally like i know
i know everyone in the room where i watch we're like yo i we're also just shocked that he's not
getting knocked out or like this guy's head is made a steal because he just kept taking punch it
he was just walking into punches shout out he got very popular from that no i but i it's like
part of me was like who's this guy i wanted to find him because he got hit so much and like
three thousand dollars or 130 000 so okay so this is kind of what i want to talk about now this
is obviously not the same exact thing but you mentioned this on a podcast
this whole Dana White, Jake Paul, paying fighters more, all this stuff.
And I kind of heard your response.
What do you think about that?
Because what you just said, right?
You're a very, very popular fighter, extremely popular fighter, right?
Not every single fighter in the UFC is Sugar Sean.
I'm not saying these people are not as valuable as individuals or as fighters,
but as like on the grand scale, if we're talking about money in and money out, right?
because so many more people are engaged with you
and know you on this social presence
and they're going to come to your fight
they're going to pay for your stuff
they're going to buy into you
because they're excited about it
there's not many if we talked about earlier
who's the most popular fighters
there's not many who are like pulling that
yeah UFC's very good at getting you
into like a big contract six seven fights
so I blow up after three fights
but I'm still four fights left
to fight out the contract that I'm on right now
to get paid I have two more fights on this contract
that I'm on right now
I'm not on a bad
It's not horrible
Yeah
Depend like I mean
If you compare it to Jake Paul
Like it is horrible
Right
But if you compare it to the UFC
Like it could
You know it's
I feel like
And Dana White went on record
After my last fight
Saying we're gonna pay him
Of course
Which is rare
You don't ever hear Dana saying that
Of course
You don't hear him saying
I feel like we've all
Like I feel
It's so I don't even want to make
This about this
But I feel like
Steve was like
Fucking totally rooting for you too
Oh yeah
Steve but it's also just like
Dude you're
fucking popular
And this is the thing when I remember Jake put out this like pay the UFC fighters like 50% of this.
And it's like, dude, what about the years and years and years of data and that entire team and that organization built the UFC to build that platform for him to say, oh, you should just give this away because he's trying to make a point about this like, you know, this social cloud.
And at the same time looking like a good guy being like, give more money to the fighters.
And like I respect that.
But at the same time, like it was all self-serving.
All that's self-serving for Jake to say that.
Everything we do is selfish.
Yeah, and it is what it is.
I'm not mad at him.
Jake's a very smart guy,
but at the same time to shoot that shot at Dana is like,
dude,
it's a fighter who just comes in right now,
how would they be entitled to that much money
when they're not adding as much to the UFC
that the UFC's adding to them?
Dude, 100%.
Like, yeah, well,
there's some people that aren't going to make,
they'll get paid 10 and 10,
say they win,
they get 20,000.
Like, the UFC didn't make that on them.
I mean, they're still getting it,
but fighting so fucked up
that it is crazy
that you're fighting for such little money.
When you say little money,
how much are we talking here for one fight for someone like you in like in starting out how much
are they paying you or are they not paying you at all eight fights in the UFC something like that
I made a couple hundred thousand out from my last fight and I believe I'm worth a million
100% like per fight I would like bro you're popping like that's I'm not even going to get that
next contract probably like that's just how the UFC works if I'm the champ then it's different
but I'm not I'm the people's champ but that doesn't pay you the same but yeah
So, I mean, like, this year, I fought three times, three chaos, three bonuses, didn't make a million from fighting.
Yeah.
They don't bring into like, they don't like, oh, let's look at his Instagram and decide how much we're going to pay him.
I was going to ask that.
Social media doesn't really play into it.
Not really.
I think like when I go to negotiate, it might a little bit now.
Yeah.
Okay, this is not much I, you know, make birth, Twitch, all this other shit, like it might.
But UFC's very smart and they know, like they don't need me.
I fucking disappear.
UFC's a billion dollar company without me.
Yeah.
They really fucking don't.
That's the point, right?
That's the point I'm trying to make.
Like, I totally understand, you know, paying the fighters more like when they deserve it.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying that they should just be throwing themselves out there and getting no money.
But it's like this platform is also massive.
It's been massive for time.
Yeah.
And they've given me the platform, obviously, to venture out and to being able to sell.
Like, no one would know who the fuck I am if I'm not in the UFC knocking people out.
I wouldn't be able to sell merch, fucking do all this other stuff.
That's what I'm saying.
There's like the give and take.
And you have been, you know, blessed and, you know, luck.
enough to know how to do the other side of it and I think it's just because it's just who
you are though it's like your personality I think if you weren't a UFC fighter and you were still
yourself somehow you'd be popping on the internet talker yeah because like you did the funny
but it's also funny related but I do TikTok you do yeah but I haven't seen any of your TikToks you
have it no he always fucks with Bob I've never seen one of your TikToks my best one's my weatherman
one but I'll have to look it up no I'm curious no his social's dope yeah I haven't seen
he's funny he's entertaining I
wonder like in in ufc like do you have to have a social media presence to be like the level of
success that most people want so you you couldn't do it without any social media i don't think so i
couldn't name anyone that's well i think based on the same conversation i think if you didn't have that
you probably have a hard time making enough money to to make ends meet so yeah yeah absolutely because like
i know you you get you get your deals like i don't know the companies that you're working with i've
seen them um that you know the the the we stuff whatever the other stuff you're doing but like you
wouldn't be able to I think sustain maybe I don't know if your lifestyle how have you built it
if you didn't have those other things right yeah I mean I I do live pretty simple like my
my lifestyle back home is very simple like I'm not really I invest in money I have a house I have two
house like a couple houses like my all my shit's paid off my house are almost paid off so I don't
spend money it's just funny as you say this but you got the I know but no no but that was a gift
from Steve Hawke Steve gave me but it's so funny Steve
you one of those chains too right yeah yeah so are you a milk boy no I'm a sender
he sends it I sent it why you're a sender do you feel like confident saying that
out loud that you're a sender I sent it fully like that's what he does I sent it
whatever night I said I even yeah Sunday Friday whatever what are you
what are you mean I sent it you know how so where were you what you do that's
if I knew that I if I if I knew that I wouldn't have been I wouldn't be a sender
oh no I did blackout but I had fun I'm not a sender I don't I don't drink
alcohol so I don't think I don't tend to like you guys I take Molly have you ever
taking Molly I took Molly one time um in it did you have sex on Molly I didn't okay I
didn't because I heard it would ruin it for the rest of my life I couldn't do it I wouldn't say
it ruins it for the rest of your life but like the next couple days like your your dopamine
levels are like shot yeah I definitely wanted to die after but it's like but even worse probably
if you have sex have you had sex on Molly yeah once you've done Molly yeah when I was
202?
Literally your age like yeah.
No, if people don't know like Brad's not a drug addict, I straight thought Brad was a cocaine
addict. I thought he brailed fucking lines. When I first met him, I was like, this dude is
is a cokehead because he's constantly, no, because you have lock jaw when you're thinking.
So you like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, dude, he's coked out right now. Like at the gym,
that's crazy. Never. But no, he's not. He's just a psychopachian once. Yeah, no, I'm a full on
psycho back. Did you like it? Cocaine? I used to sell it. I used to literally sell cocaine.
I kind of liked it.
I mean, I liked, not really.
Like, I like, I like it for a second.
And I was like, oh, this is too much.
Because, like, you were talking earlier,
I'm too sensitive to, like, upper stimulus.
I'm very sensitive to.
So anytime it's like that, I'm like, oh, this is a little too much.
I get a little bit of gym and fucking live.
Yeah, well, I was like to do push-ups.
Yeah, I just think of Jacob, whenever I think about Adderall.
Does he hit him?
He likes his ass shotguns bang.
He's a psychopath.
He too.
He's a psychopath.
He's a real psychopath.
Shotguns bang?
He does.
300 milligram caffeine.
Yep.
That's who doesn't give a shit man he doesn't care 600 or 60 milligrams of
Adderall and brought my bang here today so I think you're a drug addict holy
shit I have extreme ADHD extreme why in the caffeine helps doesn't make it
worse no like like I like I like that on feeling I like but don't you have like
that down feeling after that no you just keep railing banks yeah a lot of people your
age in LA Adderall's big yeah and like I especially with like my job and like
when I was in college oh my God
Like I had to. I couldn't go to work and like focus on what I'm doing unless I did it. Is it Adderall meth? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's literally good word for it. It's a different derivative of it. Yeah. Yeah. But it's. It's crazy. It's just so much more socially acceptable. It's that's just and get it at the store or whatever doctor. When you're hitting Adderall all the time, when does the decline start to come? When does it? I'm so yeah. I'm actually curious. I've never asked it news. It does. Like I haven't noticed it like in like my mood or like energy, but like I will get depressed if I take it. I take it. I'm so. I'm so. I'm not. I'm actually curious. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I
too long for too long like prolonged period of time I will get depressed and I will
overthinking and I'll get anxiety and I can feel it in my chest but at what period like
five days on yeah probably like five days but I don't take it on the weekends okay so if
you're doing it for 10 years every day yeah I can see that being a problem yeah definitely
also I think if you don't have ADHD it will definitely fuck you up you can get
Parkinson's disease damn so from it bad yeah so would you fuck Sean
is your dick big
oh my god
Jesus wait a minute
don't answer this right now
I mean you can ask
absolutely answer the question
I mean I don't know if he
that's like you put him on the spot
Oh my god Brad is your dick big yes
Okay well I haven't seen it but I'm
Whatever
Is your dick big
Just tell her sugar
Tell her you got a shlong on you
Look at him
Tell you got a shlong on you
You definitely give off
I have a slanging cop
Like you give off giant dick energy
It's so stereotypical
Like skinny white guy
with the tattoos colored hair you got big hands too look and i and like this shows you know where the clitoris is
too like wait wait wait wait well how does what show where the clitoris is wait wait explain to me i don't know
the whole vibe that i'm looking at right here it shows like he knows the four players because of the
watch in the ring it's more like his fingers are clean but he's like the skinny white guy skater
type with colored hair that just means like i like to suck on clitoris that's what that means
that's a good read that was a good good is that a good read that was a good fucking read thank you wow
That's impressive.
Brad does not like foreplay.
Brad wants to go inside your vagina right now.
I'm trying to go in the mouth first.
Yes.
Anyways.
But so what was the answer?
I'm waiting.
No, your answer.
My answer to fucking him?
Yeah.
If his dick is big.
Oh my God.
I love it.
Well, you guys do that.
I have a little tug shop.
Yeah, I don't want to just like waste it.
There's like two tuggies down here.
Is it really?
There are.
What?
You know what tuggy's a hand job?
A little massage.
Oh, like a happy ending.
We have to go do happy ending.
We're going after this.
They're not going to give you.
I don't think they do that.
They might put a glove on finger.
What the fuck is this like?
Were you going to discriminate against a vagina?
I just don't think they do that.
They just give her a shitty massage.
Yeah.
They might throw a glove on and flicker bean a bit.
That's what I'm saying.
Play my banjo.
That's so rude.
If I'm a paying customer.
I honestly don't know because I.
I think they'd just give her a massage, I wonder.
And then like massage your pussy?
No, I don't think they would.
Probably like, what are the 40 bucks for a 30 minute massage year or what?
It's probably more expensive here.
I know for a fact that there has to be a place where,
women's can get there should there has to be that's what i'm saying and if there's not brad i think
i have a business we'll go get the news face down there on victor so if you had a boyfriend you were dating
for five years and he said hey can i get a rub and tug no would that be bad for him to go and like
this is a great question from like a like a salon just a simple rub and tug no no emotional shit oh i love
i i i i'm cool with like if you wanted to like buy like you know like a sex worker or like anything
like he's out with the homies and they want to like hook up with a hooker or whatever cool go
for it yeah it's the emotions it's the like the thought of him being out and like
seeing a hot girl but would you calling her to a podcast and trying to fuck her I would
yeah like your penis is gone so you would really be okay though if you're like if I was like
say we were dating and I like I was like yeah I just fucked a hooker in Vegas and I come
back and you're straight good with that well we would have to have good communication so
you'd have to be like hey I'm going out tonight like you're saying that earlier before
that's the most important thing is communicating so if you were dating the guy and
you guys had a rule like you can hook up with a girl but I don't want you talking to her after
or doing it again.
You might be okay with that?
I don't trust these motherfuckers.
I'm cool.
Like, I'll do like a three-way
if it's like a foreign girl
that doesn't speak English.
Yo, I love.
The parameters are hilarious.
If he's willing to learn a foreign language for her,
like, fine.
You know, I'll take my loss.
The parameters of this are just...
That's perfect.
That's nice.
I mean, that's...
She's got a rule book.
I like it.
That's solid.
So if it's a foreign girl
who speaks a different language,
it's like kind of like
we can work that out.
And she has to have big tits
because I don't have tits.
And I like boobs.
So it's like a yin-a-yang.
But like a lesser of an ass.
Like it's also a balance.
It is.
It's probably one girl.
And it's okay.
She can be really hot as long as she doesn't speak English.
Yeah.
Because like you know who you won't be able to communicate as well with her.
Is that why?
Well, yeah.
It's like if you want to go learn a foreign language for her, fine, I guess.
That's a good rule.
Wow.
It's funny.
You know?
Guys are so fuck that that way they would try.
I know.
He would like download Google translate and go for it.
Yeah, fucking duolingo.
Oh my God.
Holy shit
Would you learn a foreign language
For another girl
That you liked
Would I learn a foreign language
You know another language
My girl from Mexico
I know those Spanish
Her first language is Spanish
So I've been with for eight years
So it's like
I know a little bit
Has it always been an open relationship
I would say
I mean the first conversation we had
We talked about earlier
Was like hey I don't know
How guys just fuck one girl
For the rest of life
But then it was like kind of
Took a couple years
That we built our relationship
and then it kind of was like, hey, this is...
So I'd say for the most part, now, seven, eight years later,
yeah, it's been mostly like that.
Him too.
And you're okay, wow.
And you guys are okay with your girls
going, hugging up with other men?
If that's the, I mean, how could I say no?
No, I know that you can't say no,
but, like, I'm asking, like, a genuine question.
Like, emotionally, what I would deal with it,
I don't think it would be like the end of the world,
but it would be, like, an emotion that would have to deal with.
And if she's my best friend...
And I love her.
And she's caused another guy enjoyment,
and that guy's caused her enjoyment.
and I just don't like it.
No, fuck that.
That doesn't even make sense.
It's not even really your best friend then.
Insecurity, jealousy, motherfucker.
No, it's very interesting.
Like, I love this mindset,
because it's something I can't really relate to.
And I know you can't either, Brad.
Brad's not letting this girl,
fuck another guy.
Yeah, I'm not there.
You know?
I'm like, I'm like, damn, that's fucking.
So in your guys' experience,
does your girlfriends hook up with other people
as much as you guys hook up with other people?
Thankfully, my girlfriend likes girls more than,
fucking guys.
Interesting.
That's fucking dope.
Yeah, I mean, we talked about it earlier, but yeah, I haven't had to deal with that yet,
but if it comes around, crazy.
I'm getting, I'm a little, you know, how are you in an open relationship when it's only
one side?
I know you're saying it's okay.
I know, but like I'm saying like, you know, with actions, it is one side because she is
not hooking up with other men.
But that's not my fault.
No, it's not your fault.
I've almost like, almost, I don't want to encourage it, but I'm like, I need to go
through those emotions too because I know there's going to be a
fuckload of emotions to go through
but it's just hard for a girl to just
what do they do? Swipe on Tinder and just go to a random
dudes. You're right. They don't go out
they don't go party and they don't go club and they don't really have
like the urge to do that and like
she works at she loves doing hair
it's her thing she doesn't meet a lot of guys doing hair so she's not
actively looking for she's not swiping on Tinder like
trying to find a guy to fuck so if it happens
it happens but it's not one side it's not
like she's not allowed to that magic wand too
You have a magic wand?
No, I have a Satisfire Pro 2.
Satisfire Pro 2.
That's a magic wand.
Dude.
Number one toy in the last 10 years, that's a sex with Emily.
If you're not using toys on your girl, you are like fucking up.
Like, every time though?
Yeah.
Well, I think every time we have sex, it's like grab the, grab out, plug it in, vibrate that little clit while I fuck you.
Yeah.
It's like, why not?
You know, why not?
But there's some men who get a little insecure about that.
And there's no reason to it because your penis is not in the same.
category as a sex toy like they're not comparable because they're not the same
say that again doesn't vibrate like a penis in a sex toy they don't it's not mechanical
exactly but there's men that are like oh no I don't I think fucks you better than me
get all insecure and weird I've had multiple experiences I've been like hey I'm gonna
bring my and they're like oh I'm not really oh wait your buddy it's easy for a guy though
like we have a condom on it's easy for a guy to pump on a girl and just have not many
emotions attached to it yes but for a girl is it different
I mean, in my experience, no, I can fucking never talk to you again and not care.
But it's like if I do, if I do care about you, like, yeah, it hurts really bad.
Knowing that someone that I love is interested in fucking other people and like that whole,
oh, I'm not enough kind of thing.
So do you really love them then?
Maybe I've never been in real love.
Yeah.
Because I don't, I've never experienced that feeling where I'm like, oh, it's okay if they're with whoever.
I know they love me.
One book that helps me a lot with that was the mastery of love.
that book that book puts love into a perspective that I was never aware of
when did you read that book um I've read it a couple times and who did we hear it from
the mastery of love the mastery of love that's one that changed your perspective on
that's Esther Perel that's yeah is that who's talked about it that's who's talking about it
dude um that book fucking puts love into a perspective when it's like oh like okay it's a lot of
possessiveness it's like it really really fucking helped me a lot yeah because I think for the
most part we're taught like until reading stuff or learning more like this we're taught to have that
possessiveness yeah you watch a movie you see how marriages are relationships are like oh that's what it is
movies from when you're a little tiny tyke movies and songs it's just engraved in our culture in our brain
that that's the one way and more than that more so than seeing like you know monogamous couples the
like problem that people have with cheating is like it's huge in media like oh they cheated on me
it's the end of our relationship like it's the biggest thing they've ingrained in us that
being with somebody stepping out of that relationship is like the end-all be-all to it.
Like me and Brad were in a room and he was like, let's go.
I would probably not do it.
Really?
Like just to be completely honest.
I like to fuck with him and he's the kind of person where there's no women in his life
are coming on to him like that.
So it's just funny to see his reaction.
But I don't think I would like actually fuck him because I'm scared.
I knew they were talking shit about me.
No, I tried to get you hooked up.
No, I was talking about your type and she's saying it's BB Dub.
Oh yeah, every once in a while.
Now, what were you talking about?
I said that you're, like I was saying, I'm the polar opposite of your type.
You like a girl with a beautiful tan.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
It's fair.
Dude, just chicks, though.
It's just girls and chicks.
They're beautiful.
So you guys have never had an attraction to men?
No, I haven't.
No.
I put Sean in a scenario a couple times, like a girl that he's really attracted to, he's making out with.
And I said, what if everything was good?
And she just had a little weaner.
At the end of the night, she had a little weiner.
Well, what about a giant weiner?
Whoa.
Fuck.
Whoa.
I mean.
And you know, you know what he said to weirers?
No, no, no, no.
He would say that, yeah.
Yeah, she's comedy dog.
No, have you seen some transgender's that I'm like, holy shit.
Yeah.
This person is beautiful.
Yes.
And that does not make you gay.
That was like, holy shit.
No, no.
If you're attracted to her in the butt.
No, I'm telling you right now, it does not make you gay.
If you're doing 69.
I will tell you why, okay?
When you initially, when you initially saw this person in their form and they were presenting
as a woman, you were attracted to them because you're, you're attracted to women, you know?
And that, them having whatever is in their pants, it doesn't change the fact that you're
attracted to women unless that ends up in your mouth or your butt.
Yeah.
But that, I don't, I don't really think so, you know.
But if it ends up in your mouth, though.
That's where it switches a bit.
So what's the difference between like sucking a penis and like getting pegged?
Like, it's like, it's both things.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
It's sugar shit.
Wait.
But I, I just like, one of them's just too gay for you?
No, no.
I think they're both equally, it's the same.
It's like you have.
So you think it's gay if I were to put my fingers in your butt?
No, no.
Okay.
This is different.
This is a little different.
But if you had a penis and put it in my butt.
Yes.
Yeah.
I like, but what if I used to dildo?
If I was at the massage and her finger with,
maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I, I know.
When you're getting your, like, head, she doesn't put her finger in your butt and rub your go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like, love that.
Okay, so then like you like things in your butt.
Yeah, but but but not weeners.
Okay, but like if it was a weiner, and you.
And it was wrapped.
Yes, you were really nice.
Why would you wrap something in your butt?
If it was like a pink plastic like cute one.
In the butt?
Yeah.
It's good to put condoms on your sex toys.
Is it really?
Also, I just want to give a tip.
If you're going to put something in your butt, make sure.
You said it, hold on.
You said this tons of times.
I know, but like, you're going to tell you guys again.
Okay.
Make sure it has a stock on the bottom because it's going to get trapped in your body.
I know.
I know.
I have to say it because it's really common.
It's like a medical disclaimer.
It happens at work all the time.
She's like a medical disclaimer.
She's like, FYI, guys, this will happen.
I work in the medical field, so I, yeah.
But it's common.
So I don't, I don't think you're gay if you are attracted to a trans woman and then you end up playing with her penis.
What if you know she's trans?
Hmm?
What do you know she's trans first?
And you know she has a little weener.
Wait, do they have little weeners?
I think pretty sure it's like big one, little one, whatever one.
But I mean, but is it matter?
But is it is that what it is but some have surgery. Yeah. So it's the same. And I have personally
seen and felt a transgender woman's vagina. Have you? Dude. It goes inside. It goes inside. It
they have sensation. It literally looks almost anatomically correct. I only could be like oh it looks a
little bit manmade because I have my own you know like I have one for personal reference. What the
fuck? Yeah but like it works the same like you can flick the bean and everything. What? Yeah.
It doesn't get wet. Um well sometimes I I've seen. I've seen. I've.
heard that some of them got this fit ready but I had we had Loub when I
oh really my experience wait what did you do wait you hooked up with the trans
girl yeah yeah what you really yeah that's pretty cool what the fuck yeah but I didn't
know she was trans when I had met her at first but then she talked told me and did she
she tell you before after you did the before okay and I think that's important you know I
do for trans women safety I think it's important to disclose during um well before
only because if I know hey by the way I she asked you're like it could be unsafe
Yeah, interesting, interesting.
Yeah, but it was like, it felt great.
And it was very tight, very cute.
She was a cute girl.
Damn, that's awesome.
Wow.
That is, that was crazy.
I just think if you suck a dick, it's like, that's, I mean, that's, but she's, the
the hot chick you've been making out with all night.
She's slim and you guys have this chemistry.
Suck, dude.
I feel like you're trying to talk yourself into it.
No, I'm trying to get the, I'm trying to get the honesty out of Brad.
No, dude.
I still feel like it's just, it's sucking a dick, no matter what.
It's still a dick, right?
No.
I don't know.
I think if that one girl from Florida was like, hey.
No.
I have a penis, but I'm down to fuck.
No.
On a plane.
Okay.
It's like, you know, it's just not.
It's so interesting to me.
It is, dude.
Isn't, but are there people who say like it's like wrong if you don't want to do that?
Yeah, there are people that say that it's like transphobic.
I don't believe that.
I think that everyone's entitled to their preference, whether it's a fucking, the color of your skin, the gender that you have, whatever it is.
You're entitled to have it.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah, you know.
Did she talk about the fact that she think she could fit my whole dick in her mouth?
Did she talk about that yet?
No, she has.
It's not a thing I know.
Okay.
She's convinced this.
Do you think she could fit your whole dick?
I mean, some, dude, some girls have like some special powers that they can really.
But they're fucking, they just, they're just, they're just horny.
They can just fucking get in your mouth.
A beer can?
I haven't tried to fit a whole beer can.
Your cans are kind of thick.
Honestly, if I, if someone pulled out a beer can penis, I would be like a little intimidated by
That is a fat pean.
Yeah.
Very fat.
Are you like a fat pain guy or is skinny and long or what?
This is such a funny question.
That is.
Just be honest.
I mean, I'm, you want to see?
Yeah.
They can make some happen.
Okay.
I'll let you guys now.
Not right here.
What about you?
Like, do you?
I would say I'm average.
You would just an average penis.
Just average.
Which I kind of like, I guess.
I agree.
If you have an average penis and you're good at with it, perfect.
He didn't say that.
He said to have average penis.
Honestly, he ended it there.
Yeah, he stopped it right there.
He gives me Christian Gray vibes.
I don't worry about him.
I know he's good at bed.
Jehovah. Jehovah Witness.
What?
Used to be.
Wow.
Did you really used to be?
Until ninth grade.
I was raised at Jehovah's Witness.
Yeah, yeah.
Where'd you grow up?
We grew up in Great Falls, Montana,
hour away from him,
hell into Montana for him.
So you grew up, you grew up in Montana as well?
Yeah.
What was your family like childhood like?
Um, you know.
Pretty normal.
I felt like it was normal.
I felt like it was normal.
I felt like it was normal.
He played sports and which school hated it.
try to get chicks yeah both parents there still there yeah not they got a divorce recently but
yeah you know it was like uh i feel like it's just normal fucking childhood yeah nothing that you'd be
like to be like this is why i'm a fighter yeah no i could i mean yeah i that was just kind of
fucking random really were you just fighting as like i like i didn't like fighting no not really
like my older brother would fuck with me a maybe that happened or made it made it i don't know
I feel like I just, I didn't like confrontation.
It wasn't like I've gotten to fights outside of the gym or even before fighting.
It's so interesting.
It's like to be such a skilled, such a good fighter and come just, you're just like,
I'm just going to do this shit because it sounds fun.
How long is you been doing it?
11 years.
Oh, that's a long time.
Yeah.
Really long time.
When did you start as a kid then?
16, I'm 27.
Sorry, yeah, we talked.
Yeah, I wasn't here for that.
That's insane.
Yeah.
We brought you in more for the, for the, for the, to just have sex and leave.
No, no, yeah.
not exactly but um no for my body no we don't we don't use no more for your for your uh
your conversation pieces yeah oh no because it's a really good conversation pieces they are
i think you've elevated the pot i think it makes it better thank you i think you guys being here
makes it better too and brad yeah but um so with fighting and when you were a kid you weren't
getting in fights like it wasn't you weren't like a kid that was constantly getting in street fights
i was just a little fucking kid like i was a little dude that no i was i was played football basketball soccer
baseball I played other sports ball sports like fighting was random as fuck interesting what about for
you was it random for you kind of a little bit for me but I like I said I was raised Jehovah's
witnesses and I saw my dad watching some fights when I was like eighth grade started wrestling
and boxing in ninth grade and just kind of wanted to get chicks so I just learned how to fight
have you guys fought each other he's my coach yeah yeah we fought each other a handful times in the
room yeah has anyone ever tried to fight you guys like in the street no fuck
No.
Our neighbor did.
We always keep it in the story.
Our neighbor did.
And he was a small little jack guy.
And then we took him to the gym.
He tried to fight who?
Sugar.
He's like, well, he looked at me.
He's like, I can tell you're a pro fighter.
But this kid, if he can be a pro fighter, I want to spar him.
So I had a key to the UFC gym.
Oh, you guys weren't sparred.
Yeah.
And Sugar kicked him in his gut.
And Sugar's dog was there.
And there's poop that fell onto the ring.
And the shit was getting smeared.
And I'm filming it.
And the guy shit himself.
And I thought it was the dog.
But we watched the video and it was poop that fell out of his pants
You kicked him and he shit himself
Like would you get him in the side or something?
Oh my God
And I said Tony you shit yourself
You need to clean it up
He said no I didn't the dog did
And we looked at the video and it was Tony
He shit himself
Why did he want to fight you?
Oh that's just a little jacked fucking dude
He thought he could beat me
I don't know
Did he get any shots on you?
No
There was no beef
I love that
I don't it wasn't like any actual beef
But he just
I don't know
Like we drove him there
and home right now I get it I get it and the attitude changed no be honest though you fought
him 20% well yeah I mean I'm not gonna try to hurt someone in the head like I'm not trying to knock
them out I want to get brain damage you know what I mean so you're just like I'm about the kick was
probably like 100% to the body that's fine dude a kick like a full kick from a man like out that
would hurt so bad yeah it doesn't feel great I couldn't imagine I think that would hurt worse than a
punch have you ever had any like injuries like ribs besides obviously I broke my foot
I just, I fractured my thumb last fight.
I broke my nose a couple times.
But other than that, I've been pretty lucky.
That was the, that was the, that was the, that fight.
That foot injury was my worst one for sure.
That was fucked.
Yeah.
My foot, like the top of my foot snapped, basically.
That was when they tried to give you the one, right?
The what?
The one, the loss.
No, that was something different.
This fight actually won.
So, wait.
I thought that was a fight you injured yourself here.
So there's a nerve right here, like behind your knee.
It's like a perennial nerve
That's where he kicked me
And then my whole foot went numb
And I kept rolling my ankle
I literally couldn't walk forward
And then when did you when did you fuck this up
That was my second UFC fight
Oh that was yeah that was
You gotta watch that one Brad
He's bounced around on one foot
He can't stand
He's still trying to fight to kid
It's a good fight
And then the kid took me down
There's three minutes left
When I broke my foot
And I was hopping around at one foot
Because I literally couldn't
My foot was snapped in half
And he took me down for some reason
And then the fight ended on the ground
But yeah it was fucking nuts
What was the recovery like on this?
It hurt for two years and still fucks with me.
Every fight.
Yeah.
Because I like to run, so it gets sore when I run.
But it was called a Liz Frank surgery.
Like, I mean, it could potentially be a career-ending injury for, like, guys in the NFL
that has been before and stuff.
But, yeah, no, it was a fucking, that was a horrible injury.
I didn't fight for two years.
That's right.
So who's next?
Is it Cody?
Is it?
It's definitely, I mean, I have no idea.
My hand, my thumb's still, like, fractured.
It's healing nicely right now.
I just need to get back to, I need to improve.
I just need to get back to the gym and start training.
Who's next?
I don't know.
When?
I don't fucking know.
If I had a guess, I'd probably say July, which is kind of a long time.
But I just need to get back to the fucking dude.
Do you have a dream fight, like someone who you want to fight bad?
Not really.
If I had to say one person, probably Peter Jan, the Russian.
He's a fucking gangster.
He's like, in my eyes, probably one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world right now.
That guy's crazy.
He's a motherfucker.
I think it would be a sick fucking fight.
Do you think, like, if you could fight that guy next week, you think you're ready for that fight?
I think next week I'd probably lose because I fucking have been training.
No, right, right.
But let's say you've been training.
Let's say you've been training.
Let's say you've been training.
Yeah, I don't look at Peter Yon and think, oh, I can't beat him.
I wouldn't have said that just now.
Like, I wouldn't have said that just now.
I could be anybody in the division right now.
I believe my skills are that high
I'm able to perform at the highest level
And knows how much
Better he still can get
And like fight camps you get in shape for that 15 minute fight
Between fight camps
That's your time to improve your skills
And I fucking dude I'm craving just to get home
And like get healthy
Like I haven't been able to train since my fight
I fought five weeks ago
I've been able to train
Just because I've been this
My knee was super sore
So I haven't trained
You still focus on your diet and sleep though right
I still eat pretty clean
and you haven't done any like training i mean i've ran a couple times my fucking knee's been real sore
um so i've ran and then i've went to like that brandon guy the strength conditioning but
there's only so much you can do with fucking your thumb hurt and your knee hurting yeah but yes
i haven't really been training at all we hit mits once one-handed when i had my cast on um but i need
that too i need that fuck because training camps are so i fought three times last year which is like
i think three times is like a good amount i'll probably fight twice this year but i probably
Have you ever had an injury where you can't lift at all?
I had a sciatic pain injury.
Like, you know the, or shoots down your leg?
I had it to the point where I couldn't even, like, crease my hips.
Like, if I bent my hips at all, they'd just shoot down my leg.
How long?
How long did that last?
Maybe about five months, but I fixed it.
I did, like, a certain stretches, and I did it, like, every morning, every afternoon, every night,
and I ended up fixing it, just to, like, lengthening.
It's crazy.
It's so powerful.
It's so fucking underrated.
It is, like, extremely underrated.
100% and that's what I learned about it because prior to that like I didn't really do much stretching
but I'm talking about that injury I did a good morning with like 315 which is not too much weight for me so I'm doing a good morning
and my knee I pop my knee in somehow on the way up and there I felt that pain and then again it was like it got to the
point where just if I like crease my hips at all like push my butt back or like went to do any sort of like hip hinge thing like go pick up a deadlift or squat like even the slightest it was just sharp shooting pain
And I couldn't even I couldn't do anything
One thing I was doing was like sitting in like pullups and pushups and shit like that
And like your career is working out in your body so is yours
How does that feel having an injury where you can't do what you love?
Like does that weigh on your mental health mental for sure
Oh, that's a worst thing
Release you get from working out like I can't leave some people just literally don't work out ever
Yeah, I in life I've actually realized that like I can't I can't understand people who don't work out
In some form like not necessarily like some bodybuilder
Dude, going on a hike.
Anything.
Going on a walk.
Going on a walk.
People who don't work out.
It actually trips me out.
Also, people who don't like dogs.
But they also don't know how good they can feel.
Yeah.
Like some people just don't know how good they can feel.
They just live this life.
It's kind of this.
Just like this over and over.
They don't know that they can feel better with their diet or with working out.
Well, that's the same thing we're talking about.
Even like the relationship thing.
Like people are taught how to be or live a certain way.
Until like you see the other side, you're like, oh shit, that's a possibility.
And the working out one is so real.
I just I wish everyone who listened to this
I just hope you guys already work out
But like please just do something
Because it does change so much of your mind
And your body follows
Dude then you changes all your relationships
And the people around you and shit
But dude when you get hurt
When you're used to training twice a day
Every single day and you get that release
And you get hurt and you can't
You gotta fucking battle some demons
But that's a good time to fucking work on your brain
And read and put your work ethic you had
To your sport into getting better
I couldn't fucking
Because I stream every day on Twitter
Twitch I play called duty but after that fight like I couldn't train or game because I had a
fucking cast on it wasn't that bad like it was I don't that shit would piss me off
it was tough I was like two of the things I do every day that I love to do like I can't do
either of them you're probably getting a lot of new hobbies though you get yeah well I have a
princess so I have a daughter that's pregnant a daughter how old she's a cute thing
oh my gosh with your girlfriend yeah she's one that's awesome yeah and I wanted to ask this
when we're talking about open relationships do you see yourself like getting married
either of you been married what yeah we've been married for a long time but it's not like
labels are fucking so weird to me like I don't feel like we didn't get married so I'm like okay
I own you now where you're rig so everyone fucking knows it was like she's from Mexico type shit
oh okay and the whole marriage thing it's like fuck so now if if we cordially decide in a
couple years that hey our paths are going different ways now it's got to be a big pain in
the fucking it's very easy to get married it's like a business hard to get a hundred percent
It's a bad contract to sign, I think.
Absolutely.
And I think about it, like, because I'm friends with Brad now
and, like, talking to people, like, you guys,
like, there are so many people who just want to get that ring, get that.
It's so weird.
Girls are, like, get upset if their guys doesn't ask them to get married after a certain amount of years.
Yes.
I don't get that.
I don't get that either.
I think girls that don't really have a passion and they're thinking about what's next
and they're thinking about, oh, this day, now I can plan for the next year about this wedding and this day.
And they don't have a passion, something that's.
they're actually into.
I agree.
Are there some people that think that being a wife is, or not think, but they want to be a wife.
That's like their life goal.
I want to be a wife and not even be a mom, but I just want to be somebody's wife.
And that's okay.
And that's okay.
But I get curious about people like you who, you know, explore other women and things like that.
If being married is something you would even want to entertain.
Like for you, are you married?
No.
I've been with my girl for 11 years, though.
So, and do you see yourself marrying her?
If it was super, super important to her and maybe when we have kids,
But I'm like even still I'm like what's the fucking point I think we're married
You're my best friend you're my partner and I want to be with you forever but why do we have to go sign this contract and do all this paperwork
So yeah it's true it's real bud to prove it's real that's how you prove it's real is really
I sign on the dotted love exactly go to court that's like the thing that's like the least real
It's fucking crazy exactly no that I mean it's really cool though like how different sides of the spectrum one person's like I don't really see the point in someone else who I don't yeah
I don't see the point either we did it I mean like we did it two years into our relationship
and it was like she from Mexico
was trying to help with the you know the process
like we're gonna be together yeah for forever in my eyes
like who knows what's gonna happen went to the court went to court
it wasn't like we had a wedding and like invited fucking 20 people
you I have like four friends like that I actually hang out with
yeah you know what I mean weddings and big get-togethers are fucking weird to me too
yeah no I agree all four other people at that point like it's all for your friends
friends you just put a ton of money on something I just it's just not that
important to me it's like the love and the actual relationship is the important part right
yeah I think people like they they live their life thinking that they have to get to that
point where it's like this big ceremony and now this means it's real and it's like all right
well yeah it happens and then it's like what's next I 100% agree with you now you got to buy me
a house that was the biggest thing like you know the whole relationship the end goal was to get
married and then once everyone's married they're like eternal happiness what what do we do
it's but it's like like again we're taught like it's we just taught
to live like going towards that yeah it's interesting i don't know how the fuck we got there yeah
we need to change it religion yeah yeah it's true are you guys religious any like i know you said
you were but i'm a catholic no i'm sure you're such a troll it's so funny no i don't get
religion very much like it doesn't make much sense to me but there's so many and each of them
will die and say no mine's right and i'll kill you to prove it but okay and like more so on like a grander
scheme like the country is run on religion yeah a lot of religious um you know
ideologies that most people don't believe in it's very radical or they do believe in it
heavily i had no i'm a bunch of people like no i'm a christian like what do you you don't
live like that like i'm your friend i know what the shit you do you're not a fucking
christian bud yeah go to ask for forgiveness and then you yeah you're good yeah
fuck man it's it's we're getting canceled this pod no we're not we're talking about religion
No, we're not.
This is your opinion.
This is our daily, fuck.
I mean, we have our podcast here.
This is the shit we talk about.
We haven't gotten canceled yet.
What does the name of your podcast so that everyone listening knows?
Timbo Sugar Show.
Nice.
How many days a week you guys do it?
Once a week.
Yeah, we pop out one once a week.
And what do you guys mostly talk about so the people listening know?
I mean, we pretty much every pod has something to do with the UFC.
If there's a fight coming up, talk a lot about eating healthy, sleeping better,
hide like those core things is kind of when we started our pod um you know we'll recap this trip
obviously little things like that but but but but improving mental mental health stuff like that
but yeah with some humor every fucking thing yeah that's the thing i like the most though you bringing up
like the meditation stuff like i actually didn't know that about you guys that you like
practiced that i knew obviously you guys took the the sleep stuff series the food the training
but the meditation stuff like when did that really start like you said you listen to obri
how many years ago was that abry was more so with the open
the relationship it I really got into because I fucking when I broke my jaw they wired my face shut
for like eight weeks and it was so tight like that it just shot headaches up here and I was like
I can't fucking live like this I want to kill myself so I'm like I got to get through it so then
I started just looking into stoicism and meditation and reading the Tim Ferrisset and I started doing
it and started realizing just how fucking powerful and how much it's changed my life and you started
teaching him that just kind of talking to him about it say hey researches dude I think this is super important
especially for fighting
so that's like guys like sam harris the waking up app
doing different apps to learn how to meditate
like he has a 50 day course where you do it every morning
and you kind of like learn you start at three minutes
then you go to five minutes then you go to 10 minutes and like
just learning how to make i mean it's not waking hard you just fucking
i mean there's different ways and i say
have you have you have you noticed meditation like making
not just fighting better but just like your relationships or like
dude when something happens that you weren't expecting to
happen, you either can go off that initial emotion and let it take over, or you can be like,
oh, damn, I see that emotion coming. Let's decide which way I want to go, which is the best way
to go. Yeah. I want to be like you. So you said the waking up after. No, I'm so serious. I want to
I want to learn to meditate so bad. I'm just someone who like, we'll sit down and do it. I'm like,
this is fucking stupid. Too much Adderall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably too much out.
No, I one thing, I don't, I don't take Adderall until I, I don't know why I can't
I'm eating breakfast and worked out, you know, I don't, you know.
She's like, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
I'm looking in my head and I'm like, is this working?
Is it working right now?
Am I meditating yet?
It is working.
It is working.
So that's the thing is like, it's like just letting that, it's like letting that just keep
go and like till it kind of calms down.
That's like the key to it.
I'll be there all day.
They're like focused on your breathing and I'm like, oh my God, I have labored breathing.
I have cancer.
I have a lorn tumor.
Overthinking.
Oh my God.
I am really convinced I have.
cancer like no I don't know if you look at my search history right now you would think
well actually you would see porn because I watched porn to go to bed last night but
nice before I was watching porn I was Googling esophageal cancer because I like turned you on
it gets her hyped up no I swear I'm like now porn I can't I also haven't been able to like orgasm
lately because I'm really stressed out I don't know if you guys have like experiences but when I get
really stressed and really like depressed I can't orgasm yeah like when I'm in my head like
when you're super in your head
Guys get orgasms, but don't matter.
I will sit there with a vibrator on full blast.
Literally, it could fucking give an earthquake or some shit.
Split a fault.
I will hold it on my clip for 35 minutes.
And it's just like, I feel nothing.
I can't seriously.
Ripped to Adderall.
I can't feel anything.
I wonder if the Adderall in the bank has anything.
It could be that fucking vape.
No, okay, because like four days ago, I had like, I was squirting, right?
And then now I'm just like not able to.
I think like for me too, I go through sight.
where I'm like very horny and then there's times where I'm like I'm just not that
horny yeah that's that's accurate super accurate the moon fucking shit you know it's a moon
in the gravity in the waves and shit gravity's off that's why I can't orgasm no it's like I think
you're just in your head I think so too I think I'm like sitting there like trying to come so
bad because I'm I get pissed off I'm not even kidding like wow I get really upset because I'm
like this is there something wrong with me how many hours a day do you think you like
scrolling six to seven scrolling on the
phone. Oh, I'd say probably two or three. Really? I don't get on my phone very much because
that's like social media makes me feel really overwhelmed. Yeah. So. I wonder if you should stop
taking Adderall. Yes. I don't want to stop. Or up the dose. Oh my God. No, like you're probably
right. Maybe I should like try not to, but when I don't take it, I feel like I'm a lesser of a person. And I know
that's bad, but it's like I feel like I'm not, I feel like my ADHD takes over. And then it's kind of, you know
I mean. I probably feel like that for a few days and then kind of
probably be tough, dude. It would be very tough. Coming off heroin, like, that's probably
what it'd be like. It's meth, okay? It's not heroin, but no, I mean, I want to stop smoking
weed. I don't know if you guys smoke weed, but... Yeah, I enjoy a little puff. Yeah,
I have to take time off of that every once in a while. You like to lift when you're
high or switch it up to you? Yes. Yes, I love it. It's actually incredible. But you've
talked about this before how you can't get too high. It's like a certain amount.
Yeah, if I get too high, I get terrible anxiety. Yeah. I think I'm going to die.
It's like, I need to step out of the gym and be like, fuck, what's going on?
You have one side of weight.
It's just like racked up.
The other side's not even on there.
Yeah, I'm just not.
What the fuck?
What's going on?
Why do I feel like, no, I just like totally get in my own head and like, it's just, I get full-blown anxiety if I'm too high.
Do you guys smoke?
Yeah, usually we smoke.
We try not to abuse it, but and fucking get our shit done during the day and then smoke at the night.
But I wonder how much of that anxiety and shit comes from shitty weed.
Yeah.
That's a huge fucking thing.
Or just pesticides on that weed and you're just going.
growing as fast.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
Yeah.
But when it's like perfect, like just the right amount, oh my God, these workouts are insane.
I like my favorite high.
Well, right now, it's probably like a low temp dab, just a small dab.
I can't even take a dab.
I'm afraid of that.
It's because you've taken too big of a dab.
If you take a tiny dab on a low temp, it's such a smooth high.
I feel like it's just you get too high when you take dows.
If you take a little dab, I'm talking a tiny dab, it fucking hits you.
He's probably only done dabs that there's a torch and you fucking dab.
Yeah, like, I'm just thinking.
And the dabs with Steve will do it.
This guy used to put like a fucking giant.
Like, I couldn't do that.
Yeah, that would fuck me.
He has these doctor dabber things that you can do it on a high temp, low temp, or a medium temp,
and you can just do a little bit really clear head and high.
It doesn't, you don't get anxious.
Do you ever get anxious?
If I get too, oh, like in general?
No, no, when you smoke.
Oh, fuck yeah.
If I get too high, dude, I hate being too high.
You got to say Brad a dabber.
Like drinking too much caffeine.
Yeah, I like drinking too much caffeine.
I'm like, I don't like being too much caffeine.
I'm like, fucking, you know what I feel like, I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Just like get too high or being overdoing anything, eating too many fucking cheeseburger.
Yeah.
But yeah, getting too high.
Have you ever trained?
Have you ever, like, not, not that.
Jitsu high, jitzsche high is fucking fire.
He's a UFC fighter.
Yeah, and he's been training to do everything.
I mean, UFC is there's just like everything.
You can do jih Tzu and maybe that's a fight.
Yes, you could also wrestle, you could strike.
I want, I just want to make it clear.
I have no fucking idea what UFC is.
Really?
No, you know what UFC is.
I like, no, but it's like, I didn't know that you could just like jujitsu somebody.
How many sides are on the octagon?
Okay.
And I'm eight.
That's not, that's math.
That's pretty good.
I know.
I get confused, like, because in boxing, you can't kick somebody.
Correct.
But like in UFC?
And then there's MMA.
MMA is, it's martial arts.
UFC is the promotion.
Like football and NFL.
MMA.
Oh.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
Cool.
And so like, I've always wondered this.
I know it's probably a stupid question.
Can you hit someone in the balls or is that illegal?
No.
Oh, okay.
Used to be legal.
Hey, I think about how I'm going to win this fight.
I'm absolutely grabbing the nuts.
What about that?
What about that rule when like the knees down, you can't kick them or something?
It's different in other states, but yeah, if they're knees down, you can't.
Actually, the knees down, you can't kick to the head.
You can kick them in the body.
But if they're both feet are down and the hands down, you can't kick to the head either.
Unless that comes up, you can go.
So if they're down, you can't kick them in the head pretty much.
Oh, that's a fair rule.
You got to jump on them in fucking hammering.
That's a fair rule.
elbow them in the head but you just can't keep him in like one fc in japan's promotion it's like the ufc
but in uh asia you can kick him in the face on the ground and shit and stomp are there any rules
that you think are stupid yeah that's a good question um any rules that i think are stupid like you're not
it's a weird rule you're not allowed to like 12 to 6 elbow down this which is so stupid because
you could fucking suck you can kick someone in the head up they're standing up which is way
more damage than if i was to like try to hit someone like that it's a it's a dumb rule like
Like if someone's head is here, hitting them here.
They don't want you to do it.
And you can do it at like an angle, but like 12 to 6.
It's a fucking.
I kind of get that rule, though.
You could fucking compress their spine, compress their neck.
You're strong.
And you can't when you stomp them too.
But there's a lot of spots where you could fucking spike the top of someone's head and fuck them up.
Yeah.
Could you hammer fist?
You can't even do.
You can't even do this to someone's body.
Like 12 to 6.
Yeah, that's dumb.
But you can hit someone like this.
Oh, yeah.
So what's the difference between an elbow and a hand?
Elbows.
Exactly.
Is it harder?
I don't know.
Sharper.
fuck you know it's a little it's a little harder
I mean not really I would be way more scared to hit someone with my elbow
that would hurt really bad what's your what's your favorite move
I think I asked it but trying to give all your competitors
an edge right now I don't know like what's your go to he's like I just
smoke screen I don't know what do you think like there's just so many different
fucking tricks it'd be hard to say one yeah yeah you just throw some clean combo I can
just stand both stances and do pretty much exactly like you you could do both like very easily
just was natural like I could hit you as hard with my left hand as I go to my right
which is kind of rare in fighting like some people can switch stances and they can throw like a decent
jab but they can't throw a both yeah yeah and I've like yeah so I feel like that's a huge advantage
for me defensively and offensively what do you think the the the thing in fighting that you
overcome the most um well at last
dude I had fucking bruised ribs and I hadn't grappled for three weeks I literally was running and hitting mits I didn't spar or grapple and like going into that fight I had no idea how my ribs were feeling because I hadn't trained I didn't even fucking like put tested it because last time three weeks before the fight I tried to and I couldn't even like you couldn't hug me my ribs hurt too so too bad so going to that last fight I was like I cannot let this motherfucker grab me which is like it's like a whole added level like layer and he was a fucking black belt jiu jihitsu and he was a fucking black belt jiu jihitsu.
Well, dude, and you get so much your confidence
Going into a fight from sparring
Like, okay, I can go 15 minutes
You didn't spar
I didn't do my three five
At the end of camp
You're like, okay, this is, you know
A fresh guy each round
In a fight, it's obviously the same guy each round
So the whole fight, you're like, I can't let this guy touch me
And I wasn't more like I can't let this guy touch me
It was like this motherfucker's not touching me
Like I'm gonna piece him up
And I'm gonna knock him out
That was like my thought process
And I was right
And how much does like that thought process
And like the mental side come into fighting
Well, two times, listen, two times in this conversation, I posed the question very similar like that.
And his response every time was like, no, I'm going to do this.
So it's clear.
That's what made me ask because it sounds like.
A lot of that came from meditation, being able to interrupt my thoughts and have the thoughts that I want to have rather than you close your eyes and you see like, oh my God, my fucking ribs are going to break this fight.
Like, you can once you get good enough of meditation, you can kind of start to form what kind of thoughts you actually want to have rather than their thoughts.
taking over and you can't you can't just do that you got to practice meditation and in being
able to interrupt your thoughts well i think it's just so fucking important and just and just
counter them dude especially in fighting like you have no fucking idea what's going to have a fight
you see you didn't visualize a fight visualize a fight oh it's going good it's going good then you
go on the fight and something bad happens that you didn't visualize you got you got to just be
able to counter thoughts counter something like oh this guy put me an arm bar well fuck i'm
to stack them up clear my elbow and just counter it with with the right move yeah and
that is something that's like inspiring because I struggle with like intrusive thoughts like
I think they really affects yeah everyone does and like learning skills like I'm just getting better at
it I'm not gonna I don't know if you ever become just like I'm just like all day I don't think
you know well dude but then you see like Aubrey and how deep he goes to it and it's like
fuck I don't know if I want to get to that spot I still want to be a little crazy he's deep
it's it's impressive though but you've done this so so young man like yeah I really think like
I told you this before off camera, whatever.
I think you're going to be like the fucking guy in the UFC in the next few years, man.
That's the plan.
I mean,
I've thought that since before I was in the UFC.
Like I have interviews before I was in the UFC.
Like I'm going to be that guy.
Before Connor was that guy,
I was like a low level.
I was like had a lot of amateur fights.
I wanted to kind of get into the UFC and be that motherfucker.
Like Connor was the first.
Yeah.
I wanted to be that.
Connor was that,
which I thought was important for me to learn from.
Yeah.
And I think I'm going to just go on a similar path,
but take it to another level.
like even further
I believe it
I fully believe that man
with it
hopefully not lose my mind
I think I mean
made a hundred million dollars
like fucking
you kind of
try to stay humble
but
it's hard
I think he got to earn
he earned a little bit
to go a little crazy
oh yeah
why not
yeah no I don't want to
fucking get to a point
where I'm throwing
a dolly at a fucking bus
but I also kind of do
but it's like dude
I mean he what he made
he got the proper 12 deal
he's got the big to giant
UFC he's got
Floyd fight that guy just I think what this they just said he did like he was the highest earner
athlete this past year wasn't he per minute I think yeah I saw that I think it was 20 21 he made like
eight million dollars a minute because he fought cowboy serone it was like a 40 second fight or something
oh okay that's what like the I think that's what the stats was that kind of fucked with people like
what the fuck you make more Canello yeah because canela fights for 36 minutes or whatever it is
yeah you saw that too then yeah I saw that sometimes I wonder like do you guys think that Connor
McGregor is like the skill is there or do you think that his social media presence his
attitude and personality are what really like got him to where he is he's extremely high level
fighter that just truly believed in himself i don't think he was like he obviously wasn't unbeatable
but his skill levels definitely yeah you can't not you can you can't i mean the ufc you can't just
be like i'm getting social media so like get knocked out you know what i'm saying like
Of course not, but it feels like to be the highest earner, like athlete, it took his personality and like polarizing people.
100% exactly what it took.
I don't watch fighting, but I could tell you exactly who Connor McGregor is.
Exactly.
And that's kind of what we're talking about with him.
Like I think he has the same potential, if not greater.
Like his trajectory is the same thing.
Dude, it's so funny.
Like this lady came up to us before we left from Phoenix to here and we were eating breakfast.
And this lady came up and she just could not believe I was a fight.
No way, honey. You just could not believe out of the fighter. Just based on how you looked. Yeah, I don't know how like someone must have told her and like she came over. It's just so funny. I like I just tell you don't think he looks like a fighter. No, when you face time me, I was like oh, I'm like some hot tattoo artist wants to talk to me. That's dope. That's exciting. No, I tell people my rapper. He's done a tattoo for someone. I didn't know. I didn't know six nine tatted me. I didn't do shit. I would not have to me. No, I fucking can't. I'm so bad with like, oh my God. And have you always had tattoos?
tattoos like as a kid were you like the kid that was a minor with a sleep no I
wait until I was 18 and then I started getting like either like a religious
tattoo or like a family tattoo so my parents weren't like super mad but I wanted to
get tattoos so right when I turned 18 so this one was like a religious one which
one I hear which one is it that was brand new the king the king chest chest
which one again he's like touched that again yeah I know well I don't see I got two
I don't know which one they're on which side like I forget I have like
face tattoos sometimes I'm talking like adults and
Yeah, I've been staring at this heart the whole time.
I'm just a little up.
It just doesn't connect right there at the bottom.
Should you get a face tattoo?
You should.
I should, yeah.
Might as well.
Or a butt tattoo.
Yeah, we talked about that the other day.
I have one.
It's right here.
Oh.
Yeah, it's a constellation.
But what about you?
And when did you start getting tattoos?
Fucking 18.
Nice.
Popping on, yeah.
When are we going to get Brad some tattoos?
I have one tattoo right here.
I know.
When do you throw on your ice that Steve gave you just once in a while?
every once in a while yeah
it's just rare for me man
I just not a big like
he's got a rollette
yesterday I'm just not a big jewelry guy
yeah I wasn't until Steve
gave me some shit and I'm like no I am he pulls it off
good though yeah no you you pull it off
yeah it's fitting for you I know
I'm supposed to dude we were supposed to go this jewelry
store Saturday morning at 10
but I fucking went to bed at 8
and he's knocking on my door like let's go
and I thought I was gonna I couldn't even
move my leg or nothing I'm like I can't
I can't do it
It's so funny the same thing I try to get him on the pod he's like nah dude if I would have came on the pod
I would have performed shitty dude I would have sat here like I would just it would not have been good
glad we fucking yeah I'm glad you guys there where's the Rolex I want to know I'm not wearing
I'm like why the fuck do you want to wear that shit that's what I'm saying they're investments
you have one watches are investments yeah yeah you just let it sit yeah dude and they just keep
climbing yeah it's just to get this fucking roll iced out Rolex yesterday and I fucking
fucked up. Why? I just didn't make it. I wasn't able to fucking open my eyes. I would be wearing
two right now just in case. Damn, just in case you need to know what time this one was,
that I don't even say it's not even accurate. Like, I don't even know what I mean. Let's ask
two, we got to ask the audience questions before we get out of you. Let's do it. Okay. So
audience questions, I don't have a mic so one of you guys can repeat it. But it says, do you believe in
love or what are your perceptions about love? And it's also, this one's specific to Brad. Do you still feel
connected to your dad in any way or strategy you hold from the past that you have worked through
and forgotten.
P.S.
you got Nigerians watching your pot.
That's dope.
So the first question was, do I, do we believe in love?
And what are your perceptions about love?
And what, and what do I think?
How do I view love?
That's a deep question.
Yeah.
That's, I mean, what do I think about it?
I mean, it's, I think love is the thing that every single person,
and it's the thing we're all trying to attain
and feel for ourselves.
Like it's like the ultimate currency.
Like why anyone does anything that is like
you fight,
like some sort of love that you have for that,
you know,
just like you could have love for another person.
Like everything we do revolves around love.
I think it's, again,
it's the ultimate currency.
It's the thing that our lives are centered around.
And sex obviously is like a derivative of it, right?
Not exactly like a...
Well, I think being in the moment is love.
Like we're in this podcast right now.
There's love in this.
room I think love looked at very that book do masterly love will make change your perspective
on what love is yeah I think just being anytime you're in the moment anytime you're present
not in your head that you're there's love in the room there's love whatever you're doing when
you're when you're present in the moment yeah so you can be in love in so many different
ways yeah not just like intimate love I mean like friendship wise like you know what you're doing
for like your work what you're doing like for your passion but that's I'm saying I think
we're all just trying to reveal that for ourselves.
I agree.
And I think love is one thing, but passion is another.
Like, I think with love comes passion,
but how much passion you have for something
will dictate, you know, how well you do in that relationship
or in your career, whatever it is.
Like, the passion that comes with love, I think,
is the important thing.
Because you can love someone or something
and do nothing about it.
And, I mean, what's not going to do for anybody?
There's plenty of people that are in love
and they don't tell each other,
or they hate each other and fight, you know?
Yeah.
it's the thing we all want it's the thing we all look for the things we all like search for
like straight up that's why we do everything um and then the other part of the question was what
do you just feel connected to your dad in any way or is his tragedy um something you hold from
the past that you have worked through and forgot do i still feel connected to my dad in any way or is it
something that i of course i mean this is to give you the most basic answer is like you know it's a
thing that uh like that kind of stuff never goes away losing a father figure losing a parent
losing a brother losing a sister it doesn't matter like my situation is just a little different than
someone else's um that kind of stuff never ever goes away but it the the beautiful thing is like
as you age you come to terms with it differently throughout your life and it allows you to you know
use that energy towards other positive things in your life and and that's what I've been able to do
over time and it took me time yeah accepting it you go through different phases of it um but no it'll
never not be a part of my life. I mean, that's, that's the thing that drove me so, so like
strongly when I was younger. And now it's kind of evolved into a different thing in my life
where I've kind of become the father figure that I always wanted. So it's always a part of my
life. And it's, it's the thing that got me to where I'm at and, you know, hopefully it continues
to take me further. So do you ever feel him like around you? I know that's like a weird
question, but like do you ever, do you believe in like ghosts, spirits, energy, things of that
nature? And do you ever feel like he's around you? I didn't experience the other day,
so I'm wondering if you've ever had anything like that. I've had tons of experiences like that.
Um, you're not going to like crazy detail about them, but like, yeah, I mean, I feel like I, I communicate with my father in a different way that obviously is not me speaking to you here.
Um, more through the things that I'm doing. Fuck, this just makes me cry.
Don't get upset. It's okay.
Yeah, it's heavy shit, dude. I don't think a lot of people know what to do when, when they lose a loved one. There's not like, but you'd have to just maybe listen to professionals on podcasts, go to therapy.
I just, thankfully, I haven't lost a loved one,
but I just don't really know what I would do.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, you just like, you find a different way.
Like, a buddy of mine, his mom just recently passed away,
like kind of out of nowhere.
And I was trying to explain to him,
because I've obviously dealt with this when I was really young,
that, like, your experience with them will never be the same.
Like, it's never physical.
Like, right now I can hear it touch Sean, right?
like it's never going to be like that again but you you learn at least what i try to do is learn
a different way to connect with that person obviously not physically right because you can anymore
but through different means you could allow yourself to connect or like i almost kind of have them
by your side in a way they can help either guide you or push you or or keep you strong in moments
where you feel weak and and that's kind of what i've done and focused on so yeah yeah anyways
next question before you fuckers make me cry god damn it dude sorry guys someone asked
Right, honestly, why don't you fuck your call-up?
Right.
We kind of covered that one.
Yeah, yeah, we covered that.
That's funny.
Okay, so this other one, it works for everyone.
It just says, where do you guys see yourself in 10 years?
Oh, God.
You're the classic.
Jail.
And what is your life goal?
So where do you see yourself in 10 years and what is your life goal?
Dude, I've always hated these five, 10-year questions because it's just like,
everything that I've done to this point, I'm like, I'm still just figuring it out.
Like, that's kind of what life is.
just trying to figure shit out and you don't really know.
I just know that I go towards the things that make me happier,
the things that I feel most fulfilled doing it,
I just try and do more of them.
So, like, I don't really have a direct, like,
this is what I want to do or where I want to be exactly,
because I didn't even know right now where I'm sitting
that this is exactly what I wanted.
It was just like, kind of like a general idea.
And fuck, I made it.
I'm grateful, you know.
37, 100 Millie, champ, champ,
drug addict.
I want to be the biggest entertainer in the world
I won't fuck you money for whatever reason
I've always wanted that since I was like a kid
and it's like a moat I don't know it's like I know I don't need that
if I don't it's like that's not what makes me happy
but it's like something that's like that's what I do
I wake up and you know I enjoy the business aspect
of the stuff that I do so I won't fuck you money basically
yeah yeah respect just keep fucking enjoying my time
and having good relationships with the people I'm around.
I know there's not going to be a point where it's like,
oh, I got to this point.
Now I'm happy.
And I'm happy forever because I got to this point.
So it's just enjoying everything I do.
I want to be able to help my dad.
He works really hard.
And I want to be able to retire him and buy him nice things and give him the life that he wants.
So that's where I want to be in 10 years.
Schwab was saying that you wanted to get a super fight.
A super fight?
Did he talk about that on the podcast?
He brought it up after.
So what if they offered you, they said, okay, boxing match with KSI.
No, not KSI.
No, who's the big bodybuilder.
True, true, George.
No, no, not him.
Oh, shit.
Who's the big black bodybuilder who's gay with a ponytail?
What?
Oh, I know who you're talking about.
With a ponytail?
I know who you're talking about.
Is Kai gay?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
The big fucking Jack black guy.
Kai Green.
Yes.
Did he come out?
He's gay.
Yeah, it's clear that he's gay, I thought.
Was he on Rogan?
Oh, I didn't know.
that what if they offered you that one uh i would love to see that more than anything you get canceled
knocked him out yeah i don't know if i really want to do boxing i think it rather do
would you would you i think that'd be good i'm not seeing i'm not seeing gay here i'm pretty
sure i don't think he came i don't think oh i see top bodybuilder goes gay for pay well that was
when he fucked the great everyone knows about the grapefruit thing but i don't think he ever came out
and said he was gay fruit yeah
Is it?
That's not gay to fuck a grapefruit.
Well, that's what they're saying.
Like, I think he got paid, like, someone paid him to, like, do it.
Fuck, who wants to pay me to fuck a grapefruit?
Yeah.
No, so I don't know.
I don't, yeah.
But you would like to get a little rumble.
Yeah, a little MMA.
Dude, you got to.
I think it would be good for you.
Yeah.
But it can't be boxing.
Yeah.
I want to use my whole body.
Yeah.
I would love to see you fight somebody.
My, every comment, Dan, who's Brad fighting?
When is Brad's fighting?
When is Brad's going to fight?
I can beat Brad's ass.
Let him fight me.
Yeah.
Yeah, everyone on the internet can beat me up
Same, same.
Yeah.
Do you have any other questions?
Yeah.
So this other person said, I go to the gym every day and fight my demons, but I feel like
sometimes it's not enough.
And my question is, how do I get someone back that I lost?
Who I know is the one.
Jess, then Brad, and then the guest answers.
So that's the order they want it.
They want you to answer first?
So, okay, this is a guy, this is definitely a guy asking, like, how do I get the girl?
He said that I know.
that I want?
It says, I feel sometimes it's not enough.
And my question is, how do I get someone back that I lost, who I know is supposed to be the one?
Who I know is supposed to be the one.
It depends how you lost her.
Okay.
You want to go ahead?
I know what I would say to this.
I put me on the spot here.
Genuinely, the only way to get somebody back is to just focus on yourself, be the best
version of yourself and hope that they recognize that.
no way to no algorithm to get somebody back or to make them miss you and want to be with
you again. It doesn't work. I've watched every fucking YouTube video. I've looked it up on
Reddit. I've looked it up on Reddit. It's official. I have. No, I've tried looking
it up because I've been in this situation where I'm like, damn, this is the one. They're not the
one. I'm telling you they are not the one. You will know when it's the one and it's not
going to be this hard and this painful and conflicting. It is, it's going to be easy and
healthy and it's going to feel good. So just focus on yourself and hope that that person
recognizes that and if they don't fuck them yeah that's the thing you you nailed it
focus on yourself because like maybe in your mind this is the one but maybe in the other
person's mind it's not and maybe it just it's a different time maybe you need different
timing in life like maybe you spend more time on yourself that person spends more time
of themselves and at some point you come together and it makes sense but to say like this person
is the one and I know and I need to get them back is like you're you're already kind of in
like shaky water here where it's like something's going on where it's almost like you need
to focus inward like you said on yourself if the time you make sense for that person
to come back and be in your life, then that's going to kind of happen.
Obviously, it doesn't just happen out of nowhere, but, you know, I'm just to say this,
if you're constantly trying to get that person back, like, come back in my life, come back in my life,
come back in my life, I want you, let's make it work.
That person is going farther and farther and farther away.
Absolutely.
Because at the end of the day, real people want what they can't have.
Like, if you're banging their line all day, like telling them how available you are for
their attention, they're not going to want to give it to you.
You really just need to better yourself and be the best version of you.
Like, that's the only time anyone wants to put energy into anything.
yeah what do you think you got covered it boys
dude i forgot who what relationship expert i heard it from but they said like after every
big breakup it gets worse for like six months but after six months you start adapting and you
like start to go on with your shit absolutely that's a fact i think that's it boom that's it
for today thank you guys so fucking much for canceling your fucking flight and coming here and
doing this i appreciate that you guys are solid as fuck you have been since the day that i met you
and i wish you guys nothing but success i know i believe just as much as you
you believe that you're going to be the one man i believe it i'd fucking bet on it
if there was a bet right now i'd fucking make that bet
i would too i would too so check them out check them out the podcast you got a youtube you vlog
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gonna go get a tuggy yeah you really want to tug you solid you guys have some shit
you said you do yeah I guess I gotta go to a fucking that's with the landlord right
to that too that's fun that was fun that was good king thank you and the book
that you already called the look no I'll call it that was fun that was fun
I'm so glad we canceled that flight we came you too I was gonna be pissed I'm like
that's the part I wanted to do yeah because they these motherfuckies gave you look like
you did you did job Theo no we didn't do Theo oh he didn't we didn't have time okay
job and that's it I know we did Jeff but I was dude it was dog I'm swear to god like I was fuck
it was dog shit I was so fucked up Mike Maylock was on us and he talked the whole
got but I was like and Mike was our he was driving us around yeah but dude the Jeff
what you guys didn't listen you guys were we were in the room but dude I was just
sad I felt the I had slept two hours I was coming out from
Molly had a horrible hangover and the lights were on me and I was just like in from me
Mike did good Jeff did good so I'm glad I was able to yeah it was good