RAWTALK - SEAN O'MALLEY TRIES TO F*#K BRADLEY MARTYN'S CO-HOST | TALKS HIS FUTURE IN THE UFC

Episode Date: January 18, 2022

Get in the Cage with the wild and entertaining UFC fighter Sugar Sean O'Malley & his coach Tim Welch! In the octagon we touch on 8 hard hitting topics. We take a few hits at relationships, love, fight...ing, sleep, training camp, the bedroom, senders, and Jess took measurements of the guest. From the judges perspective she was not far off, what do you think?SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://vm.TikTok.com/TTPdQbEqVX/FOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This guy was fucking dead, huh? Dude. Too many beans, brother? Too many. That's good. You're talking to, man. Got the whole crew. What are you guys?
Starting point is 00:00:09 This guy last minute, he almost flaked on me. He had to change his flight. He changed his flight, though. If you wouldn't have seen me yesterday, I slept, I went about 8 a.m. What were you doing? I was doing. Oh, that was fine. Did you get anything?
Starting point is 00:00:20 Yeah. Little something he's not allowed to talk about, though. Yeah. He parties, man. Did party. A hot chicken meeting? Is it? No.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Oh, you want to meet her? You want to call her? I'm trying to figure her on the pod. Why you never have her up? What's gonna hammer on? Let's call her. Where she lives? This is so funny.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Oh my god. How far are you from my house? Oh shit. Like 25 minutes? Hi. Hi. Hi. How funny?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Who is it? It's Sean. Oh, hi. Hi. What do you do it? Yeah, come out of bed. Yeah, come out, come straight out of bed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Okay, I'll be there. Alright, we're gonna start. You're gonna jump on. Okay, okay. Oh, dude. How old is she? 16. 16, what?
Starting point is 00:01:06 What are you saying? That's what I have to deal with. No, no. Oh, my God. I didn't, I couldn't even have talked yesterday on a pod, bro. I'm glad. You think so? I know so. Why?
Starting point is 00:01:18 Bro, I slept for two hours. I was so fucking just tired. So I felt retarded. Like, legitimately. So, like, is. Are we live? We're live, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Um, so you want to fuck. my co-host yes okay that's solid i like that um and do you when you when you're like when you're not training do you party hard because i party with you a few times yeah uh this is really the first time we went out since the fight right or no yeah i mean we last last the last fight when i first met you when we hung it was six and steve yeah that was a little bit more crazy we partied like multiple weekends in a row yeah this one was like the first time we partied since the fight um yeah
Starting point is 00:02:00 I don't part honestly we don't party that much yeah I notice that so when you do party you like to have fun you like to go too hard dude the cities we live in
Starting point is 00:02:12 are like old folks homes yeah I live in Peoria there ain't one nothing going on dude yeah yeah the west side so when you come out here you guys are like
Starting point is 00:02:18 fucking run it or Miami when we come out when I come out he didn't go out I was fucking a little under the weather last week so I didn't want to run it down again he got tested yesterday
Starting point is 00:02:27 he was negative But, yeah, he didn't go out Friday or Saturday. You didn't go out at all. I did it. Do you not like to go? Because honestly, I don't really, I'm not going out is not really my thing. Is it, is it our age, dude? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:39 31, mature, right? Well, when you fucking strike out as much as you do, bud. Hey, him? He's over like 30. He's over 30. Yeah. And he doesn't have standards. I've probably fucked more than last year than you.
Starting point is 00:02:54 What? Where did that come from? Jay. You know, let's see you get a third party here, Jay? Okay. I mean, maybe like, you're a little more on Tinder. In Arizona, you definitely try a lot harder than I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I don't try in Arizona, but when we go out, Miami, Texas, here. So you have like a lady, though, right? Yeah. We both do. We do. You both do? Yeah. I've been dating my girl for about 11 years.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So, like, they're obviously, because you guys are not holding back on this conversation. They're aware of all this. I didn't know we're alive. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So both of you do. It's, what, polyamory. It's just, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, it's hard to put a fucking label on it, dude. But our girls know how guys are. We've explained to her, like, guys are horny as fuck. Just because we want to fuck another girl, it doesn't have to do with you because you're not good enough or you're not hot enough. It just took years to get to this point,
Starting point is 00:03:46 and now it works out pretty good. But we don't, it's not like a possessive thing. Like, I don't feel like I own Danny. And she doesn't own me. Like, if I want to come to L.A. And go hang out, like, I'm going. I'm going to. you know what I mean so she's going and doing the same thing though
Starting point is 00:04:01 if she wanted to yeah if she wanted to I mean Danny right we have a baby now she's our little princess is one but if she was like hey I want to go on a trip with the girls and I'm like no you can't do that like if that's what she would hurt your feelings though she fucked some other dudes I would deal with those emotions I don't know what emotion I'm sure I would feel certain things but it all comes on to being insecure and jealous I mean I guess jealous is probably stems from insecurity but I I feel like it definitely wouldn't break us up
Starting point is 00:04:31 we wouldn't break up we wouldn't even fight if that's what she wanted to do that's like what would how could I say no you can't do that I just that's where I'm at in our relationship it's like we do we do
Starting point is 00:04:41 we do what we want to do yeah how long you've been with her I've been with Danny since I was 20 it's coming up on eight years damn that's a for real relationship yeah he's been with Mariah for 11 like we've been with our girls
Starting point is 00:04:54 for a long time shit yeah and how soon did you guys introduce this like hey i'm going to be doing these other things about seven years into it seven years into it i started explaining to her like how my mind works and i know it's not because i'm a bad guy like i love you with all my heart you're my best friend but i want to fuck other chicks and i'd rather not just have that on me cheating and hiding it and just being a douchebe because i know i'm not a bad person yeah but i like some strange plus
Starting point is 00:05:19 no you guys are are solid dudes like from the moment that i met you guys like even till you know yesterday when you guys are like yo we're being we're going back because we planned the podcast and then and then like you guys did some other podcasts and then obviously you party didn't like couldn't like plan for that and went crazy and you guys push your flight back just to be on this podcast so thank you guys dude no i felt so bad like yesterday we were supposed to do the pod it would have i wouldn't have even been able to talk this much i i had two hours of sleep and just hung the fuck over i felt retarded and the molly hangar's the worst because you have like your personality i lost i went i fucking was on cloud 700 and i
Starting point is 00:05:55 fucking wish. Where'd you guys go? Good question. Some chain smoker's house party. We went from club, house, house. Have you ever hooked up with a chick on, on some Ollie's? Yeah. That might be the highest high on the planet. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah, I definitely didn't like it. Like, I liked it, but after the fact, you're kind of like... The come down's not worth it. Yeah. It's never going to be the same. Yeah. You know? It's just definitely not something I enjoy.
Starting point is 00:06:19 This is back when I was like fucking 20... You don't enjoy your joy too much. So you guys had a podcast. for how long? Who? Good question. Almost three years now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. Almost three years. Are there any other like coach fighters or are there any other fighters in the space currently who are like active who have a podcast? Coach Fighters? Not necessarily coached fighters, but a fighter or a coach or whatever. I'd say a lot of people do. Majority, you know, everybody has a fuck podcast now.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Like a bigger one, nothing that I can think. I mean, like Michael Bismey, I guess he's retired. Yeah, but with the coach. Not even necessarily with. the coach is a fighter or a coach tail son and does good i see them in the podcast but no current fighters i think there's a lot but then you know you know how podcasting is
Starting point is 00:07:02 fucking hard you got to do it every single week i think they try it for a couple weeks and then it's like fuck it's hard very inconsistent yeah ours has been very consistent for sure i mean you guys am crushing it like you crushed it but this is the thing with you like before i ever met you like i saw you fight and i was like holy fuck who is this dude this dude is so entertaining which fight was it do you remember god damn it must have been like Did it rainbow hair? Or was it before the hair?
Starting point is 00:07:26 No, you had, you had rainbow hair. Yeah. When I first saw you. And it was in the UFC. Yeah, a lot of people first saw my, like, the Eddie Weinland fight when I knocked that dude off, walk away. It was the first time I did the six nine hair, the rainbow hair. That was probably it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And because I saw you and I was like, I literally remember thinking like, yo, this guy's going to be like, and this is no disrespect at all. The next Connor McGregor. And I say that obviously lightly. I just meant like in the sense of like stardom. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? 100%. Because when I saw you, like, you fight, like just, you just, you just.
Starting point is 00:07:53 you just were entertaining and i i legit was like who the fuck is this guy and i immediately went to your socials and then meet you in person i was like dude this dude's fucking dope that was fucking fun because we met right in miami um i remember that oh wait is that the the baseball game the six nine's fucking yeah we met when he was like in the band right did were you you were there when steve picked us up in the van yeah yeah yeah that's right that was fucking crazy yeah but you're just like it's it's crazy how how how how successful you're You are obviously in the fight game currently, but also on social. Like, what do you think made that different for you besides like, you know, the flamboyant,
Starting point is 00:08:31 the colorful hair, all that shit? I think I just enjoy it. It's not like trying to get a bag thing. It's more of like an enjoyment thing. Like it's just, I just be myself and I'm fucking funny and hot. Which at the beginning, like posting about weed and posting all this shit got a lot of flack from parents. People saying the UFC's not going to like it. Sponsors aren't going to like it.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So like five years ago, probably. But truly just having the nuts to just be like, fuck it. I'm just going to be myself. I'm gonna post it. But didn't ideas did the weed thing like, well, long time ago, no? Yeah. But he just owned it.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It was like, fuck it, I don't care. He was like the only one really doing it. But yeah, but I'd get calls for my dad. Like, I can't believe we posted out. Like, like, well, adults would be like, hey, you're not gonna get sponsors. And like, I don't, but that's what I like about you. You just don't, it's just, you just don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You're just yourself, like unapologetically. Yeah. And I think that's why a lot of people are gravitated towards you. Yeah. No, I definitely, I agree. But the crazy thing is even before I met you and I know that about you and I could see that on your socials, there was something special like you in the ring fighting was like super fucking entertaining. What do you think like created that?
Starting point is 00:09:28 How are you creating? Obviously you like fuck around while you're, it's like you're fucking around while you're fighting. Like the thing that I was always tripped on was you'd be fighting and you'd be like, you'd like do the look back. Yeah. That was the one that really fucks me up, dude. I mean, I spin so fast that if I do a little motion like that, you have to either react to my, I'm going to spin or I'm going to fake spin, and then come on the opposite side. So, I mean, anytime I do stuff,
Starting point is 00:09:50 or the dribble in a basketball, I mean, they're all faints. They're all setups. They're all tricks. I mean, when I'm in there, I'm 100% serious. I'm trying to win. That's it.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Like, I'm not trying. I'm not going to do anything to waste energy that I think just to entertain. So these are faints. Every time I'm doing, anytime I'm doing anything, it's a setup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So it's definitely, uh, it's not just for the fans entertainment. It just looks, I mean, I guess it kind of looks like that. Are people like in slow motion for you? Because like,
Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm just curious, It's like when you're fighting, and obviously we see it on the outside. We're like, you know, he's hitting, like, you're just hitting these shots. Does it ever feel like the other guy is just like super slow? I've definitely been in there with people. I'm like, oh, fuck, this guy is like. Dude, a majority of the people, because we train with such good motherfuckers. And sugar is so fast, both sides.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And if you watch some of his fights from when he was 16, 17 years old, he'd have his hands down. He's a little lanky twig. But we got with this strength and conditioning coach named Brandon Harris. And he's put on some serious size, some serious explode. like muscles and now he's super healthy growing into his body a little bit and we're just working around those strengths that when he was 16 17 years old and just building on those yeah because you you've like it's like you're just so fucking quick man you're so explosive i think just i grew up an athlete i didn't i didn't start fighting until 16 i remember my dad would watch
Starting point is 00:11:05 ufc when it was like 13 14 i thought i was so fucked up dude like i didn't understand how you kick him in the body and the ribs wouldn't break and then punch him in the head and they like I didn't like it. I fucking hated it. But I grew up playing basketball, soccer, baseball, football. So I was just like an athlete.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And then my buddy's like, hey, you want to check out a fighting gym? And I was just insecure. And I was like, I'm going to get some chicks. 16. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I'm going to get some chicks. Because you were like, I'm going to learn how to fight. I'm going to learn how the girls are going to think that's cool. Yeah. That's what like was pretty much one of the main reasons I got in the fight. Dude, probably a majority of fighters are doing it for the chicks or just wanting to.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I feel like majority dudes do everything for chicks. like working out all this shit is like building something's like confidence so you're like I can go do this yeah and which is funny too man I love the shit you'll post like after your fight you're like I'm here for like all the something and all that's fucking bro that shit is so funny. Roy Jones Jr. baby that's a quote all the pussy to come with it yeah that can't be touched song can't be tough yeah it's just it's funny man like your personality is really like really like your socials show your personality and it's cool Danny my girl's just like one of the first conversations I had with Danny
Starting point is 00:12:08 I met her was like, I don't get, I was 19, 20 years old. I'm I don't get a guy, I could just fuck one girl for the rest of her life. She said that to, no, I said that to her. It was like one of our first conversations we ever had. Like, when we fell in love, she knew who she was falling in love with. Like, it wasn't like, I pretended to be this guy and then it was like, hey, I want to fuck chicks. Yeah. But it was, it was, and I think that's why it works, but Danny allows me to be able to be myself.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Like, I don't have to really fake being anything. I mean, that's genuine love. Yeah, yeah. Like, really is. It is deep, it's deep love. Because being in an open relationship going through certain. things like you uncomfortable talks uncomfortable conversations grow you makes you grow a a fuck ton have you ever had to experience her being with someone else no but i've i've
Starting point is 00:12:49 almost like she told me like i was fucking this one chick for a while like she knew and like she's like well i want to fuck someone and she wanted to fuck one of my buddies and i messaged him and said hey you know what kind of relationship we're in like if she hits you up like i'm not going to be mad at you yeah and nothing ever ended up happening but i got to the point or i felt those emotions and I was like fuck this would be hard dude but I can't say I can't I would not say no and I can't be mad at her or him or whatever and it was it was tough it never ended up happening but I got to a point mentally where I was okay with it which it's a fucking crazy point I never thought like my 16 17 18 year old self could never even say that like be okay with that
Starting point is 00:13:28 yeah but it it comes on insecurity to it's cool you had Aubrey on the podcast because we've learned a lot for him love that guy at first I listen to his podcast probably six years ago And I was like, oh, damn, there's a different way you can go about relationships. So we started reading books, listening to Esther Perel, listening to reading the books, mastery of love, and just learning about it. And be like, damn, there's actually a different way you can do it. Yeah, well, I think the thing comes down to, like, that the backbone of it is how you said, like, from jump, you're like, hey, this is who I am.
Starting point is 00:13:56 This is where I'm at. This is what I want. I cheated on every girl I've ever been with. And I just, I'm like, I don't, I added that. And ever since I started talking to girls in high school, it's like, was still talking to other girls. I never was able to just talk to one girl. And the thing is I think that's like literally most dudes.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah. For the most part. And I think there's a lot of girls too, honestly. Like girls that aren't just fucking, I mean, they'll say they are because they want it to be like a, they don't want the guy to talk to other girls. But dude, I have girls are just as fucking horny as us. Yeah. Yeah. Dude.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And it's like, name one marriage or one guy that you've just, you've never heard him talk about another girl or around the boys and being around the boys. And it's like, okay, I pick this girl to be my best friend, my partner. I want to be able to be myself around her and tell her whatever I want instead of having to be like, I'm this person with this girl. But yeah, it's the honesty, man. Like I said from the beginning. Like as soon as you can introduce that in the same thing like when you're going, when guys are going for girls like instead of like trying to like feed a girl what you know they want
Starting point is 00:14:56 to hear. Steiny. I'm sorry? Yeah. Stiny. Stiny. Yeah. Or try to flex at the same time.
Starting point is 00:15:01 But it is. It's the honesty. Yeah. And of like this is, this is where I'm at. Because a lot of guys will play that role like trying to tell. someone what they know they want to hear to get like the pussy or like you know to get the relationship and eventually like it should just goes to shit it's just it's crazy how we don't understand it like I mean we do but a lot of people they play that role because they think it's like
Starting point is 00:15:20 the safe way or they've then taught that like that's the norm that you have to you have to have relationships this way but like where did you so did you start thinking about this through obrey or was this like yeah through Aubrey's podcast I was like damn dude there literally is another I didn't even know about like like we don't put up like labels on it, but open relationships and polar amory, I'm like, damn, this is a real thing because, like, my parents got divorced. Everyone's fucking parents got
Starting point is 00:15:45 divorced. I'm like, there's got to be a different way to go about it than just, there's two options. You be with this woman or you be a shitty person and cheat and lie like everyone usually does. Because you're right about that. I'm trying to think of how many relationships I've heard where the guy is, even for time, for like years, it never talks
Starting point is 00:16:01 about another girl. It just doesn't exist. I don't know any couple really that's just happy, monogamous that's just i mean i i got i couldn't name one but we started talking to our girls like similar times like about it more and in in like uh when we started learning about that there was another way of relationships it was we were kind of like do talking to our girls at the same time yeah so and i think that helped a lot too because they knew each other yeah dany and maria are really good friends and like they talk and they the thing that helps so much is
Starting point is 00:16:32 that they they wanted to learn about it too so they could understand how to deal with the emotions that came up so they would listen to podcasts they would read books they would talk to each other and in that fucking helped a ton the girls being able to talk to each other about everything yeah like how do you think you if you're a normal guy listen to this if you're like how would you approach a girl and like even because so tough i would hate to have to go dude i i think you have to be super super like in love and everything good between you guys you guys have good sex you guys have good communication um and like yeah that's that you have to have good communication and maybe watch porn with your partner once and then just kind of see what
Starting point is 00:17:10 they're into and be able to just open up a little bit and be like okay let's talk about this stuff a little bit maybe maybe bring in a threesome and just like try some shit out dude but it's like he like he said it's not just like this easy thing like we did we still have rules and it's just not like there's oh yeah it's just all breezy you have to go through tough conversations that most people want to avoid completely what what are the rules like what kind of rules Wear a condom What is one for me Throw one out there
Starting point is 00:17:37 You gotta wear a condom Like right now Our rule is like I can't fuck a chick more than once So then because then you're gonna start Building a relationship And the girls need to know That I'm in a relationship
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's nice though If you can tell a girl Like hey I got a girl And then it like That makes it a lot easier You don't want to lead someone on too Right
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah that's what I'm saying Like this honesty In how you're going about anything When I fuck a girl They know I got a girl And that fucks them up They're like wait Wait what?
Starting point is 00:18:03 They're okay with it? You're like, I mean, yeah, and they're like, for sure. So I was hearing some stuff about this sleep. You do some crazy shit with your sleep. That's like, the first time I started getting into sleeping was the Matthew Walker podcast with Joe Rogo, which was probably what? Five years ago, something like that. And it fucking complete, like, my life is based around performance. 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Not right now. And it's weird saying that right now because I'm out of camp. I'm like, I'm not training. I'm not all my shit. But I still have good routines, still good. good sleeping habits, but yeah, sleeping is the number one performance enhancer at 100%. What, what do you do to cultivate it? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, I got my sleep down so good. I think for me, I hot tub, cold plunge every night. I got those over here. So nice, dude. Turning off electronics, like, not just fucking on your phone until you fall. The blue light stuff. I have a chili pad that you can set at whatever temperature you want and just having your room be made for sleep. like you go in your room and that's your time to fucking wind down and sleep sleep in a big thing too is caffeine like a lot of people will have caffeine has like a half life of eight hours so if you have a 400 or 200 milligrams of caffeine at fucking 2 p.m. in 8 hours you're still going to have half half that caffeine running through your body so yeah well I'll do that that helps a ton I'm very sensitive to that caffeine I have my coffee in the morning and I won't do caffeine past noon like I can't do it I'll be up all night I am
Starting point is 00:19:32 So sensitive to caffeine. Like if I can't even have more than like 300 a day. Yeah. But it's like for me, yeah, I've noticed that if I drink caffeine anywhere around like two, three, four, five o'clock, I'm having a hard time sleeping for sure. And I don't think a lot of people realize that. Like a lot of people don't even know that that's happening. They're sipping a fucking red bull at 9 p.m. surfing.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I'm anxious. I was talking to Isaiah, one of the guys who lives in my house and he was talking about how he has been having a hard time sleeping. And I was like, when's the last time you had caffeine? Like, how often you have caffeine? He's like, oh, I just had a cup. It was like six o'clock at night. He had a whole cup of coffee.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I'm like, dude, this is like, because those people don't realize that caffeine is, is competing for the same receptors as the, the things that are going to help you fall asleep. And they're going to hold on to those things because they're stronger and they're not going to allow the sleep, the serotonin, the melatonin to be produced. So it's like, people don't realize that. But what do you notice when like your sleep's really good versus not good? Like does it completely- Mental, like anxiety, depression, none of that. I feel way more clear-headed and I can find peace a lot easier when I'm sleeping good.
Starting point is 00:20:30 But if I'm not sleeping good, like these last two nights I haven't slept good, I just feel like, I'm like, fuck. And I drank alcohol, which is, of course. What about food? How does food relate to your sleep? Food, dude, eating too close to bed, stuffing your face, eating too much sugar before bed. Like, I've gotten down, I'm able to, like, have a little dark piece of dark chocolate peanut butter for a dessert. It's a perfect little sweet tooth, tops you off, especially in fight camp, dude. I'll eat around 7, 7.30
Starting point is 00:21:00 And I won't go to bed with a full stomach. I'm not trying to digest my food while I'm sleeping. And I think that plays a huge role in how you sleep. Who's helped you with your, like, nutrition stuff? I have a guy named Dan Garner, who, I mean, I do, I send, I get blood tests done. He looks over all my stuff, stool, fucking piss, saliva. How often do you get your blood work done? A couple times a year.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So I'm going to do it. I did one before I left. He said it take about three, four weeks. He'll write up a diet for out of camp right now. them out of camp will do it out of camp diet for however long until i get back into camp then we'll switch it up to in camp diet um but that that that's huge with inflammation like when i'm in training camp and i'm eating perfect outside of training camp i don't eat perfect i don't eat shit but i don't eat perfect inside of training camp dude i feel like a fucking
Starting point is 00:21:44 machine if i'm eating my diet eating the right stuff not eating stuff that's causing inflammation to my muscles in my body i i feel like a fucking machine so when you when you say like a machine is it just like you just feel sharper faster like yeah i get more out of my training sessions i recover faster you know mentally i just i feel really good on a brain fog yeah sharp i feel sharp yeah do you have any like meditation type practices that you do yeah heavily because i've been seeing on twitter and stuff like having all this social media and having all this like uh being a youtube and having all this pressure to constantly put out content constantly up it it's gotta come with some shit oh bro it's fucking it's like if i didn't do stuff like that i think i've lost my mind by now
Starting point is 00:22:29 because it's this constant need for more constant need for what's next constant need for doing something better than before and i've been doing this shit for like 10 years yeah not youtube but like instagram forever like since 2011 so yeah there's this constant pressure for more um i started getting into meditation probably about like three years ago and i've only gotten better at it because i've like done it more the thing I realized like first is I shouldn't only meditate when like I'm feeling anxiety you know what I'm saying like it was normally it was like a reaction whereas like if I'm feeling it then I'm like okay I'm going to try and meditate now versus meditating like when I'm completely calm and like garnering that ability to like find that center right to find that like relaxation
Starting point is 00:23:12 without having to like I'm trying to fix what's this problem that's happening right now does that make sense yeah yeah it seems like when you're not consistent with it like consistent like everything is like fuck dude yeah it's like everything is like that though yeah if you're not consistent in communication if you're not consisted in like your training your diet like it's everything just is fluid yeah so the more that i stay on it the more that i just feel just better as a more you get out of it yeah the more i get out of it as well i do i i start my mornings with it so fucking important for me i can i can really tell if i don't meditate throughout the day how many how many years has it been for well when whenever you broke your jaw you kind of
Starting point is 00:23:49 like started getting into it and you're like dude like this is actually pretty fucking how many years ago was that was that four years ago now four or five years ago it was that day that or that was that was that was that was that old shit but that was that long ago Connor fought Floyd what yeah so I don't know if that was that long ago four years ago because I was living with and dad dad and stuff so it was it was a while it was a long time ago yeah so you do it every morning dude I do I didn't I don't I didn't do it a couple mornings ago because i went to bed at eight but i did it this morning just like 10 minutes kicked my feet up against the wall and just it wasn't a it wasn't like a great session to
Starting point is 00:24:25 where i was just called my mind was just fucking what's your process like i i do an app um a couple different apps this one like this morning i did 10% they have a like a morning selection you can choose from i just click on one of those 10 minutes and headphones on i didn't have headphones on this morning but it was uh that that does help when it's just fucking in your ears but i mean even even yeah even like i can i can definitely tell if i'd Don't. Dude, reading that Tim Ferriss,
Starting point is 00:24:49 the Tools of Titans book and all those powerful people, just every single one of them talking about how important it is and how much to change them, their lives. I can't imagine in L.A., like all these YouTubers,
Starting point is 00:24:59 like you're a healthy guy and you're like a smarter guy, but some of these guys that have this unhealthy lifestyle, it's like, God, they have to be fucking going crazy in their head. Yeah, especially with like the drinking
Starting point is 00:25:08 and the party and all that, that being like a part of the stuff that like maybe they feel like they have to do. I think the blessing that I've had is that like I've been so focused my whole career physically. They're like, I've got to the mental aspect of it sooner, but it is so real, like, working on your mental
Starting point is 00:25:23 is just as important as working on your physical. Like if someone's like, I want to, right? Yeah, if not way more. But it's like I've got into it because like, you know, those things, those past kind of cross. That's exactly what happened to us, really. Yeah, but I just don't think people realize how important it is because like meditating still sounds just like, even when I talk about it, people listening are like hippie shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Still sounds like hippie shit, but it's like, dude, this is, if you're watching, this is, if you're watching this podcast you're into working out if you watch any of myself you're into working out your mind game is 10 times if not like a thousand times more important than your physical because the thing that pushes your physical is your mind and if your mind's not there it's not thinking like you're talking about your clarity all this stuff that happens to you when you're when you're focused on your sleeping and your food so now you're able to get in the ring and like be sharp as fuck and that guy feels like slow motion and you feel like lightning quick it's because you've done all that practice yeah I think people get so focused on, okay, I'm just going to, I got to train. Obviously, you need to train. You need to learn
Starting point is 00:26:18 the techniques, the jihitsu stuff, the striking stuff. That's all, it's all kind of equally as important, but like it's coming from here. Yeah. Dude. And when you're, especially with him, like, he's got a lot of pressure on him and being in an arena packed with 25,000 people, this last fight having a fucking rib injury. There's a lot of things your mind can start focusing it on. But being able to be present in the ring, feeling his feet in the cage and just being able to let it go is a big reason why he's yeah like i'm curious because like you definitely have more popularity than like probably all the fighters in the ufc right now yeah i mean just straight up just from what i see from the outside yeah besides like maybe they're if they're talking about like
Starting point is 00:26:59 i mean even still know you do even even like the top fight yeah i don't think i'm up there top three right now like as far as popularity goes and not hardcore fans but just like random people but people know people who know you yeah so like when you you you're like so like when you you get you must have like like when you're walking out are you just like super like this is mine or are you like um i'm i've a lot of it's kind of a mantra just like mantra too sharp too fast too focused like saying that over and over and over you repeat this to yourself just in my head or i'll say it out loud like when i was walking out obviously i was coming out to the new six nine like that song i was kind of singing it to myself whatever but i think mancha is very important
Starting point is 00:27:36 monsion just like following my breath in the in the back cage or in the backstage before i go out fight i'm in like such a deep meditative state like usually i can't even get to that kind of state if i sat and meditated for 10 minutes usually like i i'm meditating basically the whole time in the back is it is it is it is not anger i don't fight angry i'm so calm dude it's like it's fucking weird like i'm just dude elite elite people you can't fight with emotions yeah you just can't it's just too tactical i want people to get emotional when i fight when they fight me you know what i mean like that's kind of when you use more energy you're like they're slower if they're fucking like, I want to hit this guy.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's like they're even a little bit slower than they feel already. Like, um, so yeah, if I can get them emotional with me staying calm, it's, that's superb. Yeah. But yeah, in the back, in the back, I'm just like breathing and fucking, it's just like such a calm feeling back there. But it's funny because like, uh, Juliana Pena was in the back with us and like her emotion and energy so much different. Everyone's different, but hers was like, like an anxiety like, I just want to go in there
Starting point is 00:28:39 get this over with. Yeah. That's the girl who beat Nunez, right? And she went out there and performed, too. That was a fucking crazy fight. Well, I still haven't got to watch it, but the fact that she finished her was fucking crazy. She's from kind of like the Northwest from us, and she's always comes fucking game, dude. She's going to make you fight regardless.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But for someone like her, her style, maybe like emotion plays into a little bit. She's not super technical. She's just kind of a scrappy brawler, like a good wrestler. And he's super technical. His eyes are open, super technical, waiting for this dude to make a mistake, waiting for them to overcommit. So maybe for, I think some people, emotions might be good. But I think for the really elite guys, I don't think it's good.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah, like when you're fighting, are you more reactive? Like you more like? I'm reactive. I'm like offense, defense all the whole time. Like I'm, my offense is trying to get them to throw so I can counter. But also if they don't throw, I can still be very effective without them. So I can fight going back. backwards or forward which is do you have a favorite fucking punch or favorite move or
Starting point is 00:29:44 i just something that always feels good i feel like i'm just dancing in there dude i feel like just performing in general it's just the best how did you guys meet uh tinder grinder i i i was uh fighting in bellator at the time and i went to great falls montana where i'm from yeah uh to commentate some local fights and i was watching him fight when he was 16 i was kind of keep my eye on i'm like oh this kid's pretty sparky but he doesn't know how to work card but then i went there so he thought saw him submit like a college wrestler from his back and i knew he trained at a gym that didn't you submitted a college wrestler yeah okay when i was 18 like i knew literally one i knew an arm bar off my back and this fucking i arm bar this kid the one he was at
Starting point is 00:30:24 yeah and that yeah and then after the fight i said hey you want to come down to phoenix and and train with me at like a real gym and just see how you do and a little crazy fucker he's just like yeah yeah yeah yeah he's calling me i'm like yeah whatever so i think came down for a week got beat up bad and ended up leaving i'm like i bet we won't see him I ended up leaving just because of my flight. Like I came down for 10 days. Dude, after every session,
Starting point is 00:30:44 I was like, what the fuck? Because I thought I was the man. I came down to Phoenix. And this is in wrestling. This wasn't just MMA. At the MMA lab is like a high level gym. So you guys are striking and.
Starting point is 00:30:53 In grappling. Yeah, yeah. We're a bunch of pros. There's guys. There's guys in Trenu. There's guys in Belator. So I came down from Montana thinking I was the shit and realized very quickly.
Starting point is 00:31:03 First day, I was not the shit. I was 18 at that time. Okay. When I flew down and checked it out for the first time. But then I flew back. flew back home saved up $2,000 got my fucking 2006
Starting point is 00:31:14 Nissan Ultima and drove down never lived without my, like away from my parents and we got an apartment and fucking. It's been grinding. I haven't lost in. So just the time time periods now so everyone listening knows in case they don't. How old are you right now? 27. 27. Yeah. I've been, so I've been training for 11 years. Damn.
Starting point is 00:31:30 So what do you, what do you, because you guys have been, he's been coaching you for how many years? Well, he was, when I moved to the lab, he was still fighting. He was in Bellator. He was still fighting. But every time I had a fight coming up he would go there with me he would hold mids he'd kind of turn from fighter to coach for those last couple weeks yeah and then uh like i started getting a bunch of surgeries like i tore this bicep completely before my ultimate fighter fight and then uh like as soon as this one healed i fucking tore
Starting point is 00:31:54 this one up my bicep like how rare is that doing what punching people do and just like ripping my fucking arms and then um and then after that healed up i had my fight and i broke my jaw broke my jaw completely so then i just started reading a lot getting into men and Meditation like learn about Tim Ferriss learn a lot of podcasts and then I just started focus on helping sugar a lot more and then what do you think that may what do you think that he does for you the most Um as a coach Well, how to so it's a it's a it's a open any question for sure, but something that you like you could identify like the thing that maybe he helps you with the most or yeah. Well, I think we train training together like he knows he knows he knows my striking he knows my setup. He knows the combos I like to throw more than anyone we've been hitting mids for fucking seven years together he's watched a lot of my sparring
Starting point is 00:32:43 obviously watched all he's at all my fights but we grapple together too he's not he feels what I'm capable of and what I'm not as good at he knows where to help me more than a coach that doesn't really train with me that you know what I mean yeah like we grapple together yeah we go live go live rounds
Starting point is 00:32:59 and uh so that's very how much you weigh um 190 95 but but yeah I'm 155 and I when we have competition training there's a bunch of guys at the gym So you train with a bunch of different body types. If I'm in training camp for a fight, usually I'll kind of stick around guys, my weight and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:17 But when we're doing jihitsu competition training, like you go to a room, it's a bunch of different body types, body styles. And I think, though, a lot what helped us, too, is just we both started reading books at the same time and really reading and then sharing a book with him, sharing a book, and then sending articles and just constantly trying to improve.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Like, especially in MMA, there's just so much to improve at. You can prove it wrestling, prove your jiu-jitsu improve your boxing improve your moitai improve your diet improve your recovery there's just so much so we're just constantly it's been our passion for the last 10 years so it hasn't been hard to do that
Starting point is 00:33:52 you know what I mean and constantly improving and bouncing back and forth things helped a lot do you do you think fighters and this probably sounds like a dumb question to you guys and maybe to people listening being smarter makes you a better fighter that's a good question I think
Starting point is 00:34:05 a hundred a hundred percent some people are so stupid they're just still like I guess they're not going to be the elite elite elite though yeah that's what I'm talking about right a top five guy that's not very smart there's just not that many there used to be in previous years but now it's just the game's changing so much everyone's still dude some people train over train way too much and it's a mental thing like uh I heard it takes confidence to take a day off I feel like I've got training camps dialed in to where I used to be doing say 12 practice is a week now I'm doing like seven or eight and it's like those ones that I'm not doing
Starting point is 00:34:42 are just as important as the ones I am doing yeah and that's that's something I've I've really gotten good at it's just dialing in training camps and fucking and uh knowing when to take it's interesting I mean it's the same thing in like bodybuilding is like knowing when to like pump the brakes a little bit when to like switch up your you're not necessarily switch it up but you need rest just as much as you need action yeah absolutely and I think a lot of people don't recognize that or understand that and like I think probably a lot of people when they first get into MMA or any sort of fighting
Starting point is 00:35:09 like they just more and more and more And I almost think you have to When you first start out It's like you got a lot of time to catch up You want to be good You want to just be in the gym all the fucking time And it's like I mean there is some benefit to that
Starting point is 00:35:21 Is like establishing a good work ethic And being at the gym Probably too much But once you get to a certain level You'll be like okay Now it's Yeah I think the last two years A big part of his success
Starting point is 00:35:33 Is this coach that we have He trains me to His name's Brandon Harris like he he doesn't just beat you down all right we're deadlifting day we're just going to kill you today oh this is a physical yeah yeah our strength conditioning coach and he's he's he's um big on meditation too he's just been a good fucking mentor to us and a sugar's like a fucking like a Ferrari and he gets injured easy but brandon's helped us a lot that's so funny because it's like a Ferrari yeah yeah yeah no I haven't been getting injured nearly as much as I started working with him though
Starting point is 00:36:02 because I started lifting yeah I never lifted until I met him and then I started lifting and not just lifting, but lifting correct, not fucking... Has that made a big difference in your fights? Dude, I feel like I'm stronger, faster, more durable. It's been huge. They're not focused on like the physical training, not obviously, like, jiu-jitsu and striking, but like sports performance, like weightlifting. I think they don't focus on that.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And I do it, I mean, and I think some people don't and then some people too much. Like, there's definitely a sweet spot to where I'm doing it like two, three times a week. Do you deadlift? Yeah, we'll deadlift. Do you squat? Don't really squat much. Don't squat much. And what other performance exercises do you do?
Starting point is 00:36:43 A lot of ISOs, like, isols with, uh, I'm super curious in this. Yeah. I fucking, dude, the thing is so nice about that is I don't have to, I don't have to think about it. I go there and I trust him that he's going to, that he's going to, that he's going to, because, dude, he thinks, he thinks very deep into my training camps and outside my training camps and what he has blocks, like, we're going to build this, this, this, this is. And I just can trust him. And I don't have to fucking think about what we're doing. Yeah. I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Because that's not what I'm thinking about jiu-jitsu. I'm thinking about striking. I'm thinking about chicks. Yeah, yeah, of course. And he lives it too. When you're in Phoenix, you should come train with us one time.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I will. I will. I want to fucking spar you. Okay. But it's got to be a 10-minute round. No, 10 minutes. 10 minutes?
Starting point is 00:37:26 He's like 30s. No, I'll be done in like fucking four, dude. I love how you go. Okay. I got to, well, I just have a cage in my garage.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I just took it down. How fast you think you beat me in a fight like two minutes? Depends on what is your car? Dude, I don't know, you're a big motherfucker. I don't think I've grappled someone as big as you, dude. So funny,
Starting point is 00:37:45 man. No. But I feel like I would just be getting tagged up. I'd come in, I'd just be getting tagged like. He'd at least, at least like four times before I'd get my hands on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Well, the body shots is probably what would add up. I'd have to kick you in the stomach a lot. I didn't fucking. Shit with sog, dude. How tall are you? So I was 6-3. Six-three? I mean, fuck.
Starting point is 00:38:03 260 right now that's a different kind of yeah I mean a heavyweight I'm a heavyweight yeah so it'd be like I'm a fucking full on heavy weight have you ever like sparred or worked with heavy weights um kind of just fucking around but for the most part like that's how you get injured yeah you know what I mean I if ideally I stay around my weight when it comes to sparring like actually hitting each other you you kind of just you want to spar with your guys your size like when it comes to just grappling jiu jitsu you can spar with bigger guys like him and I can roll because we're not I'm not gonna get hurt yeah there's no like yeah yeah I guess you could like overexert you jumping in here yeah yeah okay he
Starting point is 00:38:40 personally requested you he said where's your my little brother oh my god he's fan growing really yeah I was like do you know who's sugar Sean O'Malley yeah you can tell you he wants to have sex with you what I didn't know he wants to have sex with my brother no with you he wants to have he said that's what he said you want to have sex with me what's the reason he's nervous now he's he's no he He looked at you like, fuck. You did say that. Well, I'm right in here, so.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Well, it's not going to happen right now. Hold on. I said something similar to that. Yes, I did. Similar. What was the exact wording in the thought process behind it? Were we live when it happened? I think we were live, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:16 You can go watch the replay. Yeah, we might have been FaceTime and you. Doesn't matter. Okay. Sounds good. Yes. So what do you watch the podcast before then? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Oh, good. So like your outfit. Thank you. I just got out of bed. I put it on just for you. Oh, thank you. I was going to come in my pajamas, but I thought I'd impress you.
Starting point is 00:39:30 That would have worked. I noticed you didn't wear the heels today. I didn't wear the heels today, no. I got a lot of shit for them from Bryce. It hurt my feelings. Oh, it's okay. It made me feel bad. I almost showed the toes, though.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Ooh. Yeah. Are you like, you're a toe? I'm not. Do you like toes? Fuck, no. You missed it. We were talking about, um, they, they both have open relationships with their girls.
Starting point is 00:39:51 No, don't. Really? Like, no. Full on. Wow. Yeah. God bless her. Have you ever, have you ever considered doing that?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Or would you ever do something like that? Absolutely. not. Yeah. How come? Because I'm the kind of person. I know it sounds bad, but like I just, I need that, like, possessive factor. I want them to only want to be with me.
Starting point is 00:40:09 That's, yeah. Good luck, finding that. Exactly. Yeah, it hasn't worked out well so far. 22. 22? You never know. You can find a good Christian boy.
Starting point is 00:40:18 That's what I'm thinking. That's like really good at Lyon. Maybe a Verpit. That's really good at Lyon. No, I only want to be with you. Exactly. And trust me, I know it's, like, unrealistic. It's not something that's probably going to happen or something that happens naturally, but
Starting point is 00:40:30 you never know my ideal but what makes you want to be in an open relationship just that's just who i just i don't know is it being is it being an alpha male is it just i am i guess we are alpha males i mean you definitely you definitely are i mean you fight people for olivian which i think is so cool by the way like that concept do you ever trip on that that like it's trippy you're literally like you're obviously without the death you're like a gladiator they pay people like you're literally in a ring and people are watching you fight another man like to whoever wins it is But I feel like I'm more of a lover than a fighter. Like I never really think of myself as a fighter.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah, it's more athletic. I'm just like, it's a competition for me. It's like, it's just like any other. Yeah, but you're like physically beating someone up. Like, I know what you're saying. When I knock someone out, I act genuinely, like, have like a feeling like, I feel bad because I know what concussion. I've had concussions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:20 They fuck you up. You can get brain damage from that. So I genuinely feel bad after I fuck someone up. Yeah. But it's, oh God, it's so cool to me. Have you like ever hurt somebody like genuinely really? hurt somebody like long-lasting damage probably I mean that's the thing like there's all this stuff now like the CTE shit like people getting like actual brain yeah that fight I was
Starting point is 00:41:42 watching I was like I was also shocked how many punches that kid could take like his head like no seriously you know you probably didn't see this fight but this guy got hit like 200 times yeah like literally I'm watching the fight like just end this shit oh my gosh you know but I was just getting like beat the fuck up at some point don't they call it yeah yes but i'm telling you it was literally like i know i know everyone in the room where i watch we're like yo i we're also just shocked that he's not getting knocked out or like this guy's head is made a steal because he just kept taking punch it he was just walking into punches shout out he got very popular from that no i but i it's like part of me was like who's this guy i wanted to find him because he got hit so much and like
Starting point is 00:42:20 three thousand dollars or 130 000 so okay so this is kind of what i want to talk about now this is obviously not the same exact thing but you mentioned this on a podcast this whole Dana White, Jake Paul, paying fighters more, all this stuff. And I kind of heard your response. What do you think about that? Because what you just said, right? You're a very, very popular fighter, extremely popular fighter, right? Not every single fighter in the UFC is Sugar Sean.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm not saying these people are not as valuable as individuals or as fighters, but as like on the grand scale, if we're talking about money in and money out, right? because so many more people are engaged with you and know you on this social presence and they're going to come to your fight they're going to pay for your stuff they're going to buy into you because they're excited about it
Starting point is 00:43:07 there's not many if we talked about earlier who's the most popular fighters there's not many who are like pulling that yeah UFC's very good at getting you into like a big contract six seven fights so I blow up after three fights but I'm still four fights left to fight out the contract that I'm on right now
Starting point is 00:43:24 to get paid I have two more fights on this contract that I'm on right now I'm not on a bad It's not horrible Yeah Depend like I mean If you compare it to Jake Paul Like it is horrible
Starting point is 00:43:33 Right But if you compare it to the UFC Like it could You know it's I feel like And Dana White went on record After my last fight Saying we're gonna pay him
Starting point is 00:43:43 Of course Which is rare You don't ever hear Dana saying that Of course You don't hear him saying I feel like we've all Like I feel It's so I don't even want to make
Starting point is 00:43:49 This about this But I feel like Steve was like Fucking totally rooting for you too Oh yeah Steve but it's also just like Dude you're fucking popular
Starting point is 00:43:57 And this is the thing when I remember Jake put out this like pay the UFC fighters like 50% of this. And it's like, dude, what about the years and years and years of data and that entire team and that organization built the UFC to build that platform for him to say, oh, you should just give this away because he's trying to make a point about this like, you know, this social cloud. And at the same time looking like a good guy being like, give more money to the fighters. And like I respect that. But at the same time, like it was all self-serving. All that's self-serving for Jake to say that. Everything we do is selfish. Yeah, and it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I'm not mad at him. Jake's a very smart guy, but at the same time to shoot that shot at Dana is like, dude, it's a fighter who just comes in right now, how would they be entitled to that much money when they're not adding as much to the UFC that the UFC's adding to them?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Dude, 100%. Like, yeah, well, there's some people that aren't going to make, they'll get paid 10 and 10, say they win, they get 20,000. Like, the UFC didn't make that on them. I mean, they're still getting it,
Starting point is 00:44:49 but fighting so fucked up that it is crazy that you're fighting for such little money. When you say little money, how much are we talking here for one fight for someone like you in like in starting out how much are they paying you or are they not paying you at all eight fights in the UFC something like that I made a couple hundred thousand out from my last fight and I believe I'm worth a million 100% like per fight I would like bro you're popping like that's I'm not even going to get that
Starting point is 00:45:15 next contract probably like that's just how the UFC works if I'm the champ then it's different but I'm not I'm the people's champ but that doesn't pay you the same but yeah So, I mean, like, this year, I fought three times, three chaos, three bonuses, didn't make a million from fighting. Yeah. They don't bring into like, they don't like, oh, let's look at his Instagram and decide how much we're going to pay him. I was going to ask that. Social media doesn't really play into it. Not really.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I think like when I go to negotiate, it might a little bit now. Yeah. Okay, this is not much I, you know, make birth, Twitch, all this other shit, like it might. But UFC's very smart and they know, like they don't need me. I fucking disappear. UFC's a billion dollar company without me. Yeah. They really fucking don't.
Starting point is 00:45:55 That's the point, right? That's the point I'm trying to make. Like, I totally understand, you know, paying the fighters more like when they deserve it. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that they should just be throwing themselves out there and getting no money. But it's like this platform is also massive. It's been massive for time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And they've given me the platform, obviously, to venture out and to being able to sell. Like, no one would know who the fuck I am if I'm not in the UFC knocking people out. I wouldn't be able to sell merch, fucking do all this other stuff. That's what I'm saying. There's like the give and take. And you have been, you know, blessed and, you know, luck. enough to know how to do the other side of it and I think it's just because it's just who you are though it's like your personality I think if you weren't a UFC fighter and you were still
Starting point is 00:46:32 yourself somehow you'd be popping on the internet talker yeah because like you did the funny but it's also funny related but I do TikTok you do yeah but I haven't seen any of your TikToks you have it no he always fucks with Bob I've never seen one of your TikToks my best one's my weatherman one but I'll have to look it up no I'm curious no his social's dope yeah I haven't seen he's funny he's entertaining I wonder like in in ufc like do you have to have a social media presence to be like the level of success that most people want so you you couldn't do it without any social media i don't think so i couldn't name anyone that's well i think based on the same conversation i think if you didn't have that
Starting point is 00:47:10 you probably have a hard time making enough money to to make ends meet so yeah yeah absolutely because like i know you you get you get your deals like i don't know the companies that you're working with i've seen them um that you know the the the we stuff whatever the other stuff you're doing but like you wouldn't be able to I think sustain maybe I don't know if your lifestyle how have you built it if you didn't have those other things right yeah I mean I I do live pretty simple like my my lifestyle back home is very simple like I'm not really I invest in money I have a house I have two house like a couple houses like my all my shit's paid off my house are almost paid off so I don't spend money it's just funny as you say this but you got the I know but no no but that was a gift
Starting point is 00:47:50 from Steve Hawke Steve gave me but it's so funny Steve you one of those chains too right yeah yeah so are you a milk boy no I'm a sender he sends it I sent it why you're a sender do you feel like confident saying that out loud that you're a sender I sent it fully like that's what he does I sent it whatever night I said I even yeah Sunday Friday whatever what are you what are you mean I sent it you know how so where were you what you do that's if I knew that I if I if I knew that I wouldn't have been I wouldn't be a sender oh no I did blackout but I had fun I'm not a sender I don't I don't drink
Starting point is 00:48:23 alcohol so I don't think I don't tend to like you guys I take Molly have you ever taking Molly I took Molly one time um in it did you have sex on Molly I didn't okay I didn't because I heard it would ruin it for the rest of my life I couldn't do it I wouldn't say it ruins it for the rest of your life but like the next couple days like your your dopamine levels are like shot yeah I definitely wanted to die after but it's like but even worse probably if you have sex have you had sex on Molly yeah once you've done Molly yeah when I was 202? Literally your age like yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:54 No, if people don't know like Brad's not a drug addict, I straight thought Brad was a cocaine addict. I thought he brailed fucking lines. When I first met him, I was like, this dude is is a cokehead because he's constantly, no, because you have lock jaw when you're thinking. So you like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, dude, he's coked out right now. Like at the gym, that's crazy. Never. But no, he's not. He's just a psychopachian once. Yeah, no, I'm a full on psycho back. Did you like it? Cocaine? I used to sell it. I used to literally sell cocaine. I kind of liked it. I mean, I liked, not really.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Like, I like, I like it for a second. And I was like, oh, this is too much. Because, like, you were talking earlier, I'm too sensitive to, like, upper stimulus. I'm very sensitive to. So anytime it's like that, I'm like, oh, this is a little too much. I get a little bit of gym and fucking live. Yeah, well, I was like to do push-ups.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah, I just think of Jacob, whenever I think about Adderall. Does he hit him? He likes his ass shotguns bang. He's a psychopath. He too. He's a psychopath. He's a real psychopath. Shotguns bang?
Starting point is 00:49:45 He does. 300 milligram caffeine. Yep. That's who doesn't give a shit man he doesn't care 600 or 60 milligrams of Adderall and brought my bang here today so I think you're a drug addict holy shit I have extreme ADHD extreme why in the caffeine helps doesn't make it worse no like like I like I like that on feeling I like but don't you have like that down feeling after that no you just keep railing banks yeah a lot of people your
Starting point is 00:50:11 age in LA Adderall's big yeah and like I especially with like my job and like when I was in college oh my God Like I had to. I couldn't go to work and like focus on what I'm doing unless I did it. Is it Adderall meth? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's literally good word for it. It's a different derivative of it. Yeah. Yeah. But it's. It's crazy. It's just so much more socially acceptable. It's that's just and get it at the store or whatever doctor. When you're hitting Adderall all the time, when does the decline start to come? When does it? I'm so yeah. I'm actually curious. I've never asked it news. It does. Like I haven't noticed it like in like my mood or like energy, but like I will get depressed if I take it. I take it. I'm so. I'm so. I'm not. I'm actually curious. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I too long for too long like prolonged period of time I will get depressed and I will overthinking and I'll get anxiety and I can feel it in my chest but at what period like five days on yeah probably like five days but I don't take it on the weekends okay so if you're doing it for 10 years every day yeah I can see that being a problem yeah definitely also I think if you don't have ADHD it will definitely fuck you up you can get
Starting point is 00:51:09 Parkinson's disease damn so from it bad yeah so would you fuck Sean is your dick big oh my god Jesus wait a minute don't answer this right now I mean you can ask absolutely answer the question I mean I don't know if he
Starting point is 00:51:23 that's like you put him on the spot Oh my god Brad is your dick big yes Okay well I haven't seen it but I'm Whatever Is your dick big Just tell her sugar Tell her you got a shlong on you Look at him
Starting point is 00:51:33 Tell you got a shlong on you You definitely give off I have a slanging cop Like you give off giant dick energy It's so stereotypical Like skinny white guy with the tattoos colored hair you got big hands too look and i and like this shows you know where the clitoris is too like wait wait wait wait well how does what show where the clitoris is wait wait explain to me i don't know
Starting point is 00:51:53 the whole vibe that i'm looking at right here it shows like he knows the four players because of the watch in the ring it's more like his fingers are clean but he's like the skinny white guy skater type with colored hair that just means like i like to suck on clitoris that's what that means that's a good read that was a good good is that a good read that was a good fucking read thank you wow That's impressive. Brad does not like foreplay. Brad wants to go inside your vagina right now. I'm trying to go in the mouth first.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yes. Anyways. But so what was the answer? I'm waiting. No, your answer. My answer to fucking him? Yeah. If his dick is big.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Oh my God. I love it. Well, you guys do that. I have a little tug shop. Yeah, I don't want to just like waste it. There's like two tuggies down here. Is it really? There are.
Starting point is 00:52:36 What? You know what tuggy's a hand job? A little massage. Oh, like a happy ending. We have to go do happy ending. We're going after this. They're not going to give you. I don't think they do that.
Starting point is 00:52:45 They might put a glove on finger. What the fuck is this like? Were you going to discriminate against a vagina? I just don't think they do that. They just give her a shitty massage. Yeah. They might throw a glove on and flicker bean a bit. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Play my banjo. That's so rude. If I'm a paying customer. I honestly don't know because I. I think they'd just give her a massage, I wonder. And then like massage your pussy? No, I don't think they would. Probably like, what are the 40 bucks for a 30 minute massage year or what?
Starting point is 00:53:08 It's probably more expensive here. I know for a fact that there has to be a place where, women's can get there should there has to be that's what i'm saying and if there's not brad i think i have a business we'll go get the news face down there on victor so if you had a boyfriend you were dating for five years and he said hey can i get a rub and tug no would that be bad for him to go and like this is a great question from like a like a salon just a simple rub and tug no no emotional shit oh i love i i i i'm cool with like if you wanted to like buy like you know like a sex worker or like anything like he's out with the homies and they want to like hook up with a hooker or whatever cool go
Starting point is 00:53:41 for it yeah it's the emotions it's the like the thought of him being out and like seeing a hot girl but would you calling her to a podcast and trying to fuck her I would yeah like your penis is gone so you would really be okay though if you're like if I was like say we were dating and I like I was like yeah I just fucked a hooker in Vegas and I come back and you're straight good with that well we would have to have good communication so you'd have to be like hey I'm going out tonight like you're saying that earlier before that's the most important thing is communicating so if you were dating the guy and you guys had a rule like you can hook up with a girl but I don't want you talking to her after
Starting point is 00:54:09 or doing it again. You might be okay with that? I don't trust these motherfuckers. I'm cool. Like, I'll do like a three-way if it's like a foreign girl that doesn't speak English. Yo, I love.
Starting point is 00:54:20 The parameters are hilarious. If he's willing to learn a foreign language for her, like, fine. You know, I'll take my loss. The parameters of this are just... That's perfect. That's nice. I mean, that's...
Starting point is 00:54:30 She's got a rule book. I like it. That's solid. So if it's a foreign girl who speaks a different language, it's like kind of like we can work that out. And she has to have big tits
Starting point is 00:54:39 because I don't have tits. And I like boobs. So it's like a yin-a-yang. But like a lesser of an ass. Like it's also a balance. It is. It's probably one girl. And it's okay.
Starting point is 00:54:47 She can be really hot as long as she doesn't speak English. Yeah. Because like you know who you won't be able to communicate as well with her. Is that why? Well, yeah. It's like if you want to go learn a foreign language for her, fine, I guess. That's a good rule. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:00 It's funny. You know? Guys are so fuck that that way they would try. I know. He would like download Google translate and go for it. Yeah, fucking duolingo. Oh my God. Holy shit
Starting point is 00:55:11 Would you learn a foreign language For another girl That you liked Would I learn a foreign language You know another language My girl from Mexico I know those Spanish Her first language is Spanish
Starting point is 00:55:21 So I've been with for eight years So it's like I know a little bit Has it always been an open relationship I would say I mean the first conversation we had We talked about earlier Was like hey I don't know
Starting point is 00:55:32 How guys just fuck one girl For the rest of life But then it was like kind of Took a couple years That we built our relationship and then it kind of was like, hey, this is... So I'd say for the most part, now, seven, eight years later, yeah, it's been mostly like that.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Him too. And you're okay, wow. And you guys are okay with your girls going, hugging up with other men? If that's the, I mean, how could I say no? No, I know that you can't say no, but, like, I'm asking, like, a genuine question. Like, emotionally, what I would deal with it,
Starting point is 00:55:58 I don't think it would be like the end of the world, but it would be, like, an emotion that would have to deal with. And if she's my best friend... And I love her. And she's caused another guy enjoyment, and that guy's caused her enjoyment. and I just don't like it. No, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:56:10 That doesn't even make sense. It's not even really your best friend then. Insecurity, jealousy, motherfucker. No, it's very interesting. Like, I love this mindset, because it's something I can't really relate to. And I know you can't either, Brad. Brad's not letting this girl,
Starting point is 00:56:23 fuck another guy. Yeah, I'm not there. You know? I'm like, I'm like, damn, that's fucking. So in your guys' experience, does your girlfriends hook up with other people as much as you guys hook up with other people? Thankfully, my girlfriend likes girls more than,
Starting point is 00:56:38 fucking guys. Interesting. That's fucking dope. Yeah, I mean, we talked about it earlier, but yeah, I haven't had to deal with that yet, but if it comes around, crazy. I'm getting, I'm a little, you know, how are you in an open relationship when it's only one side? I know you're saying it's okay.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I know, but like I'm saying like, you know, with actions, it is one side because she is not hooking up with other men. But that's not my fault. No, it's not your fault. I've almost like, almost, I don't want to encourage it, but I'm like, I need to go through those emotions too because I know there's going to be a fuckload of emotions to go through but it's just hard for a girl to just
Starting point is 00:57:13 what do they do? Swipe on Tinder and just go to a random dudes. You're right. They don't go out they don't go party and they don't go club and they don't really have like the urge to do that and like she works at she loves doing hair it's her thing she doesn't meet a lot of guys doing hair so she's not actively looking for she's not swiping on Tinder like trying to find a guy to fuck so if it happens
Starting point is 00:57:31 it happens but it's not one side it's not like she's not allowed to that magic wand too You have a magic wand? No, I have a Satisfire Pro 2. Satisfire Pro 2. That's a magic wand. Dude. Number one toy in the last 10 years, that's a sex with Emily.
Starting point is 00:57:45 If you're not using toys on your girl, you are like fucking up. Like, every time though? Yeah. Well, I think every time we have sex, it's like grab the, grab out, plug it in, vibrate that little clit while I fuck you. Yeah. It's like, why not? You know, why not? But there's some men who get a little insecure about that.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And there's no reason to it because your penis is not in the same. category as a sex toy like they're not comparable because they're not the same say that again doesn't vibrate like a penis in a sex toy they don't it's not mechanical exactly but there's men that are like oh no I don't I think fucks you better than me get all insecure and weird I've had multiple experiences I've been like hey I'm gonna bring my and they're like oh I'm not really oh wait your buddy it's easy for a guy though like we have a condom on it's easy for a guy to pump on a girl and just have not many emotions attached to it yes but for a girl is it different
Starting point is 00:58:36 I mean, in my experience, no, I can fucking never talk to you again and not care. But it's like if I do, if I do care about you, like, yeah, it hurts really bad. Knowing that someone that I love is interested in fucking other people and like that whole, oh, I'm not enough kind of thing. So do you really love them then? Maybe I've never been in real love. Yeah. Because I don't, I've never experienced that feeling where I'm like, oh, it's okay if they're with whoever.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I know they love me. One book that helps me a lot with that was the mastery of love. that book that book puts love into a perspective that I was never aware of when did you read that book um I've read it a couple times and who did we hear it from the mastery of love the mastery of love that's one that changed your perspective on that's Esther Perel that's yeah is that who's talked about it that's who's talking about it dude um that book fucking puts love into a perspective when it's like oh like okay it's a lot of possessiveness it's like it really really fucking helped me a lot yeah because I think for the
Starting point is 00:59:33 most part we're taught like until reading stuff or learning more like this we're taught to have that possessiveness yeah you watch a movie you see how marriages are relationships are like oh that's what it is movies from when you're a little tiny tyke movies and songs it's just engraved in our culture in our brain that that's the one way and more than that more so than seeing like you know monogamous couples the like problem that people have with cheating is like it's huge in media like oh they cheated on me it's the end of our relationship like it's the biggest thing they've ingrained in us that being with somebody stepping out of that relationship is like the end-all be-all to it. Like me and Brad were in a room and he was like, let's go.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I would probably not do it. Really? Like just to be completely honest. I like to fuck with him and he's the kind of person where there's no women in his life are coming on to him like that. So it's just funny to see his reaction. But I don't think I would like actually fuck him because I'm scared. I knew they were talking shit about me.
Starting point is 01:00:25 No, I tried to get you hooked up. No, I was talking about your type and she's saying it's BB Dub. Oh yeah, every once in a while. Now, what were you talking about? I said that you're, like I was saying, I'm the polar opposite of your type. You like a girl with a beautiful tan. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 01:00:39 It's fair. Dude, just chicks, though. It's just girls and chicks. They're beautiful. So you guys have never had an attraction to men? No, I haven't. No. I put Sean in a scenario a couple times, like a girl that he's really attracted to, he's making out with.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And I said, what if everything was good? And she just had a little weaner. At the end of the night, she had a little weiner. Well, what about a giant weiner? Whoa. Fuck. Whoa. I mean.
Starting point is 01:01:03 And you know, you know what he said to weirers? No, no, no, no. He would say that, yeah. Yeah, she's comedy dog. No, have you seen some transgender's that I'm like, holy shit. Yeah. This person is beautiful. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:20 And that does not make you gay. That was like, holy shit. No, no. If you're attracted to her in the butt. No, I'm telling you right now, it does not make you gay. If you're doing 69. I will tell you why, okay? When you initially, when you initially saw this person in their form and they were presenting
Starting point is 01:01:39 as a woman, you were attracted to them because you're, you're attracted to women, you know? And that, them having whatever is in their pants, it doesn't change the fact that you're attracted to women unless that ends up in your mouth or your butt. Yeah. But that, I don't, I don't really think so, you know. But if it ends up in your mouth, though. That's where it switches a bit. So what's the difference between like sucking a penis and like getting pegged?
Starting point is 01:01:59 Like, it's like, it's both things. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It's sugar shit. Wait. But I, I just like, one of them's just too gay for you? No, no. I think they're both equally, it's the same. It's like you have.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So you think it's gay if I were to put my fingers in your butt? No, no. Okay. This is different. This is a little different. But if you had a penis and put it in my butt. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I like, but what if I used to dildo? If I was at the massage and her finger with, maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. See, I, I know. When you're getting your, like, head, she doesn't put her finger in your butt and rub your go.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah. Yeah. I like, love that. Okay, so then like you like things in your butt. Yeah, but but but not weeners. Okay, but like if it was a weiner, and you. And it was wrapped. Yes, you were really nice.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Why would you wrap something in your butt? If it was like a pink plastic like cute one. In the butt? Yeah. It's good to put condoms on your sex toys. Is it really? Also, I just want to give a tip. If you're going to put something in your butt, make sure.
Starting point is 01:02:53 You said it, hold on. You said this tons of times. I know, but like, you're going to tell you guys again. Okay. Make sure it has a stock on the bottom because it's going to get trapped in your body. I know. I know. I have to say it because it's really common.
Starting point is 01:03:02 It's like a medical disclaimer. It happens at work all the time. She's like a medical disclaimer. She's like, FYI, guys, this will happen. I work in the medical field, so I, yeah. But it's common. So I don't, I don't think you're gay if you are attracted to a trans woman and then you end up playing with her penis. What if you know she's trans?
Starting point is 01:03:19 Hmm? What do you know she's trans first? And you know she has a little weener. Wait, do they have little weeners? I think pretty sure it's like big one, little one, whatever one. But I mean, but is it matter? But is it is that what it is but some have surgery. Yeah. So it's the same. And I have personally seen and felt a transgender woman's vagina. Have you? Dude. It goes inside. It goes inside. It
Starting point is 01:03:43 they have sensation. It literally looks almost anatomically correct. I only could be like oh it looks a little bit manmade because I have my own you know like I have one for personal reference. What the fuck? Yeah but like it works the same like you can flick the bean and everything. What? Yeah. It doesn't get wet. Um well sometimes I I've seen. I've seen. I've. heard that some of them got this fit ready but I had we had Loub when I oh really my experience wait what did you do wait you hooked up with the trans girl yeah yeah what you really yeah that's pretty cool what the fuck yeah but I didn't know she was trans when I had met her at first but then she talked told me and did she
Starting point is 01:04:16 she tell you before after you did the before okay and I think that's important you know I do for trans women safety I think it's important to disclose during um well before only because if I know hey by the way I she asked you're like it could be unsafe Yeah, interesting, interesting. Yeah, but it was like, it felt great. And it was very tight, very cute. She was a cute girl. Damn, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Wow. That is, that was crazy. I just think if you suck a dick, it's like, that's, I mean, that's, but she's, the the hot chick you've been making out with all night. She's slim and you guys have this chemistry. Suck, dude. I feel like you're trying to talk yourself into it. No, I'm trying to get the, I'm trying to get the honesty out of Brad.
Starting point is 01:04:54 No, dude. I still feel like it's just, it's sucking a dick, no matter what. It's still a dick, right? No. I don't know. I think if that one girl from Florida was like, hey. No. I have a penis, but I'm down to fuck.
Starting point is 01:05:06 No. On a plane. Okay. It's like, you know, it's just not. It's so interesting to me. It is, dude. Isn't, but are there people who say like it's like wrong if you don't want to do that? Yeah, there are people that say that it's like transphobic.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I don't believe that. I think that everyone's entitled to their preference, whether it's a fucking, the color of your skin, the gender that you have, whatever it is. You're entitled to have it. You know? Yeah. Yeah, you know. Did she talk about the fact that she think she could fit my whole dick in her mouth? Did she talk about that yet?
Starting point is 01:05:35 No, she has. It's not a thing I know. Okay. She's convinced this. Do you think she could fit your whole dick? I mean, some, dude, some girls have like some special powers that they can really. But they're fucking, they just, they're just, they're just horny. They can just fucking get in your mouth.
Starting point is 01:05:51 A beer can? I haven't tried to fit a whole beer can. Your cans are kind of thick. Honestly, if I, if someone pulled out a beer can penis, I would be like a little intimidated by That is a fat pean. Yeah. Very fat. Are you like a fat pain guy or is skinny and long or what?
Starting point is 01:06:06 This is such a funny question. That is. Just be honest. I mean, I'm, you want to see? Yeah. They can make some happen. Okay. I'll let you guys now.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Not right here. What about you? Like, do you? I would say I'm average. You would just an average penis. Just average. Which I kind of like, I guess. I agree.
Starting point is 01:06:24 If you have an average penis and you're good at with it, perfect. He didn't say that. He said to have average penis. Honestly, he ended it there. Yeah, he stopped it right there. He gives me Christian Gray vibes. I don't worry about him. I know he's good at bed.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Jehovah. Jehovah Witness. What? Used to be. Wow. Did you really used to be? Until ninth grade. I was raised at Jehovah's Witness. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Where'd you grow up? We grew up in Great Falls, Montana, hour away from him, hell into Montana for him. So you grew up, you grew up in Montana as well? Yeah. What was your family like childhood like? Um, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Pretty normal. I felt like it was normal. I felt like it was normal. I felt like it was normal. He played sports and which school hated it. try to get chicks yeah both parents there still there yeah not they got a divorce recently but yeah you know it was like uh i feel like it's just normal fucking childhood yeah nothing that you'd be like to be like this is why i'm a fighter yeah no i could i mean yeah i that was just kind of
Starting point is 01:07:16 fucking random really were you just fighting as like i like i didn't like fighting no not really like my older brother would fuck with me a maybe that happened or made it made it i don't know I feel like I just, I didn't like confrontation. It wasn't like I've gotten to fights outside of the gym or even before fighting. It's so interesting. It's like to be such a skilled, such a good fighter and come just, you're just like, I'm just going to do this shit because it sounds fun. How long is you been doing it?
Starting point is 01:07:43 11 years. Oh, that's a long time. Yeah. Really long time. When did you start as a kid then? 16, I'm 27. Sorry, yeah, we talked. Yeah, I wasn't here for that.
Starting point is 01:07:51 That's insane. Yeah. We brought you in more for the, for the, for the, to just have sex and leave. No, no, yeah. not exactly but um no for my body no we don't we don't use no more for your for your uh your conversation pieces yeah oh no because it's a really good conversation pieces they are i think you've elevated the pot i think it makes it better thank you i think you guys being here makes it better too and brad yeah but um so with fighting and when you were a kid you weren't
Starting point is 01:08:18 getting in fights like it wasn't you weren't like a kid that was constantly getting in street fights i was just a little fucking kid like i was a little dude that no i was i was played football basketball soccer baseball I played other sports ball sports like fighting was random as fuck interesting what about for you was it random for you kind of a little bit for me but I like I said I was raised Jehovah's witnesses and I saw my dad watching some fights when I was like eighth grade started wrestling and boxing in ninth grade and just kind of wanted to get chicks so I just learned how to fight have you guys fought each other he's my coach yeah yeah we fought each other a handful times in the room yeah has anyone ever tried to fight you guys like in the street no fuck
Starting point is 01:08:56 No. Our neighbor did. We always keep it in the story. Our neighbor did. And he was a small little jack guy. And then we took him to the gym. He tried to fight who? Sugar.
Starting point is 01:09:04 He's like, well, he looked at me. He's like, I can tell you're a pro fighter. But this kid, if he can be a pro fighter, I want to spar him. So I had a key to the UFC gym. Oh, you guys weren't sparred. Yeah. And Sugar kicked him in his gut. And Sugar's dog was there.
Starting point is 01:09:17 And there's poop that fell onto the ring. And the shit was getting smeared. And I'm filming it. And the guy shit himself. And I thought it was the dog. But we watched the video and it was poop that fell out of his pants You kicked him and he shit himself Like would you get him in the side or something?
Starting point is 01:09:33 Oh my God And I said Tony you shit yourself You need to clean it up He said no I didn't the dog did And we looked at the video and it was Tony He shit himself Why did he want to fight you? Oh that's just a little jacked fucking dude
Starting point is 01:09:45 He thought he could beat me I don't know Did he get any shots on you? No There was no beef I love that I don't it wasn't like any actual beef But he just
Starting point is 01:09:52 I don't know Like we drove him there and home right now I get it I get it and the attitude changed no be honest though you fought him 20% well yeah I mean I'm not gonna try to hurt someone in the head like I'm not trying to knock them out I want to get brain damage you know what I mean so you're just like I'm about the kick was probably like 100% to the body that's fine dude a kick like a full kick from a man like out that would hurt so bad yeah it doesn't feel great I couldn't imagine I think that would hurt worse than a punch have you ever had any like injuries like ribs besides obviously I broke my foot
Starting point is 01:10:25 I just, I fractured my thumb last fight. I broke my nose a couple times. But other than that, I've been pretty lucky. That was the, that was the, that was the, that fight. That foot injury was my worst one for sure. That was fucked. Yeah. My foot, like the top of my foot snapped, basically.
Starting point is 01:10:42 That was when they tried to give you the one, right? The what? The one, the loss. No, that was something different. This fight actually won. So, wait. I thought that was a fight you injured yourself here. So there's a nerve right here, like behind your knee.
Starting point is 01:10:55 It's like a perennial nerve That's where he kicked me And then my whole foot went numb And I kept rolling my ankle I literally couldn't walk forward And then when did you when did you fuck this up That was my second UFC fight Oh that was yeah that was
Starting point is 01:11:08 You gotta watch that one Brad He's bounced around on one foot He can't stand He's still trying to fight to kid It's a good fight And then the kid took me down There's three minutes left When I broke my foot
Starting point is 01:11:16 And I was hopping around at one foot Because I literally couldn't My foot was snapped in half And he took me down for some reason And then the fight ended on the ground But yeah it was fucking nuts What was the recovery like on this? It hurt for two years and still fucks with me.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Every fight. Yeah. Because I like to run, so it gets sore when I run. But it was called a Liz Frank surgery. Like, I mean, it could potentially be a career-ending injury for, like, guys in the NFL that has been before and stuff. But, yeah, no, it was a fucking, that was a horrible injury. I didn't fight for two years.
Starting point is 01:11:50 That's right. So who's next? Is it Cody? Is it? It's definitely, I mean, I have no idea. My hand, my thumb's still, like, fractured. It's healing nicely right now. I just need to get back to, I need to improve.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I just need to get back to the gym and start training. Who's next? I don't know. When? I don't fucking know. If I had a guess, I'd probably say July, which is kind of a long time. But I just need to get back to the fucking dude. Do you have a dream fight, like someone who you want to fight bad?
Starting point is 01:12:20 Not really. If I had to say one person, probably Peter Jan, the Russian. He's a fucking gangster. He's like, in my eyes, probably one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world right now. That guy's crazy. He's a motherfucker. I think it would be a sick fucking fight. Do you think, like, if you could fight that guy next week, you think you're ready for that fight?
Starting point is 01:12:36 I think next week I'd probably lose because I fucking have been training. No, right, right. But let's say you've been training. Let's say you've been training. Let's say you've been training. Yeah, I don't look at Peter Yon and think, oh, I can't beat him. I wouldn't have said that just now. Like, I wouldn't have said that just now.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I could be anybody in the division right now. I believe my skills are that high I'm able to perform at the highest level And knows how much Better he still can get And like fight camps you get in shape for that 15 minute fight Between fight camps That's your time to improve your skills
Starting point is 01:13:07 And I fucking dude I'm craving just to get home And like get healthy Like I haven't been able to train since my fight I fought five weeks ago I've been able to train Just because I've been this My knee was super sore So I haven't trained
Starting point is 01:13:21 You still focus on your diet and sleep though right I still eat pretty clean and you haven't done any like training i mean i've ran a couple times my fucking knee's been real sore um so i've ran and then i've went to like that brandon guy the strength conditioning but there's only so much you can do with fucking your thumb hurt and your knee hurting yeah but yes i haven't really been training at all we hit mits once one-handed when i had my cast on um but i need that too i need that fuck because training camps are so i fought three times last year which is like i think three times is like a good amount i'll probably fight twice this year but i probably
Starting point is 01:13:53 Have you ever had an injury where you can't lift at all? I had a sciatic pain injury. Like, you know the, or shoots down your leg? I had it to the point where I couldn't even, like, crease my hips. Like, if I bent my hips at all, they'd just shoot down my leg. How long? How long did that last? Maybe about five months, but I fixed it.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I did, like, a certain stretches, and I did it, like, every morning, every afternoon, every night, and I ended up fixing it, just to, like, lengthening. It's crazy. It's so powerful. It's so fucking underrated. It is, like, extremely underrated. 100% and that's what I learned about it because prior to that like I didn't really do much stretching but I'm talking about that injury I did a good morning with like 315 which is not too much weight for me so I'm doing a good morning
Starting point is 01:14:34 and my knee I pop my knee in somehow on the way up and there I felt that pain and then again it was like it got to the point where just if I like crease my hips at all like push my butt back or like went to do any sort of like hip hinge thing like go pick up a deadlift or squat like even the slightest it was just sharp shooting pain And I couldn't even I couldn't do anything One thing I was doing was like sitting in like pullups and pushups and shit like that And like your career is working out in your body so is yours How does that feel having an injury where you can't do what you love? Like does that weigh on your mental health mental for sure Oh, that's a worst thing
Starting point is 01:15:08 Release you get from working out like I can't leave some people just literally don't work out ever Yeah, I in life I've actually realized that like I can't I can't understand people who don't work out In some form like not necessarily like some bodybuilder Dude, going on a hike. Anything. Going on a walk. Going on a walk. People who don't work out.
Starting point is 01:15:26 It actually trips me out. Also, people who don't like dogs. But they also don't know how good they can feel. Yeah. Like some people just don't know how good they can feel. They just live this life. It's kind of this. Just like this over and over.
Starting point is 01:15:37 They don't know that they can feel better with their diet or with working out. Well, that's the same thing we're talking about. Even like the relationship thing. Like people are taught how to be or live a certain way. Until like you see the other side, you're like, oh shit, that's a possibility. And the working out one is so real. I just I wish everyone who listened to this I just hope you guys already work out
Starting point is 01:15:55 But like please just do something Because it does change so much of your mind And your body follows Dude then you changes all your relationships And the people around you and shit But dude when you get hurt When you're used to training twice a day Every single day and you get that release
Starting point is 01:16:09 And you get hurt and you can't You gotta fucking battle some demons But that's a good time to fucking work on your brain And read and put your work ethic you had To your sport into getting better I couldn't fucking Because I stream every day on Twitter Twitch I play called duty but after that fight like I couldn't train or game because I had a
Starting point is 01:16:26 fucking cast on it wasn't that bad like it was I don't that shit would piss me off it was tough I was like two of the things I do every day that I love to do like I can't do either of them you're probably getting a lot of new hobbies though you get yeah well I have a princess so I have a daughter that's pregnant a daughter how old she's a cute thing oh my gosh with your girlfriend yeah she's one that's awesome yeah and I wanted to ask this when we're talking about open relationships do you see yourself like getting married either of you been married what yeah we've been married for a long time but it's not like labels are fucking so weird to me like I don't feel like we didn't get married so I'm like okay
Starting point is 01:17:03 I own you now where you're rig so everyone fucking knows it was like she's from Mexico type shit oh okay and the whole marriage thing it's like fuck so now if if we cordially decide in a couple years that hey our paths are going different ways now it's got to be a big pain in the fucking it's very easy to get married it's like a business hard to get a hundred percent It's a bad contract to sign, I think. Absolutely. And I think about it, like, because I'm friends with Brad now and, like, talking to people, like, you guys,
Starting point is 01:17:29 like, there are so many people who just want to get that ring, get that. It's so weird. Girls are, like, get upset if their guys doesn't ask them to get married after a certain amount of years. Yes. I don't get that. I don't get that either. I think girls that don't really have a passion and they're thinking about what's next and they're thinking about, oh, this day, now I can plan for the next year about this wedding and this day.
Starting point is 01:17:50 And they don't have a passion, something that's. they're actually into. I agree. Are there some people that think that being a wife is, or not think, but they want to be a wife. That's like their life goal. I want to be a wife and not even be a mom, but I just want to be somebody's wife. And that's okay. And that's okay.
Starting point is 01:18:04 But I get curious about people like you who, you know, explore other women and things like that. If being married is something you would even want to entertain. Like for you, are you married? No. I've been with my girl for 11 years, though. So, and do you see yourself marrying her? If it was super, super important to her and maybe when we have kids, But I'm like even still I'm like what's the fucking point I think we're married
Starting point is 01:18:25 You're my best friend you're my partner and I want to be with you forever but why do we have to go sign this contract and do all this paperwork So yeah it's true it's real bud to prove it's real that's how you prove it's real is really I sign on the dotted love exactly go to court that's like the thing that's like the least real It's fucking crazy exactly no that I mean it's really cool though like how different sides of the spectrum one person's like I don't really see the point in someone else who I don't yeah I don't see the point either we did it I mean like we did it two years into our relationship and it was like she from Mexico was trying to help with the you know the process like we're gonna be together yeah for forever in my eyes
Starting point is 01:19:00 like who knows what's gonna happen went to the court went to court it wasn't like we had a wedding and like invited fucking 20 people you I have like four friends like that I actually hang out with yeah you know what I mean weddings and big get-togethers are fucking weird to me too yeah no I agree all four other people at that point like it's all for your friends friends you just put a ton of money on something I just it's just not that important to me it's like the love and the actual relationship is the important part right yeah I think people like they they live their life thinking that they have to get to that
Starting point is 01:19:29 point where it's like this big ceremony and now this means it's real and it's like all right well yeah it happens and then it's like what's next I 100% agree with you now you got to buy me a house that was the biggest thing like you know the whole relationship the end goal was to get married and then once everyone's married they're like eternal happiness what what do we do it's but it's like like again we're taught like it's we just taught to live like going towards that yeah it's interesting i don't know how the fuck we got there yeah we need to change it religion yeah yeah it's true are you guys religious any like i know you said you were but i'm a catholic no i'm sure you're such a troll it's so funny no i don't get
Starting point is 01:20:07 religion very much like it doesn't make much sense to me but there's so many and each of them will die and say no mine's right and i'll kill you to prove it but okay and like more so on like a grander scheme like the country is run on religion yeah a lot of religious um you know ideologies that most people don't believe in it's very radical or they do believe in it heavily i had no i'm a bunch of people like no i'm a christian like what do you you don't live like that like i'm your friend i know what the shit you do you're not a fucking christian bud yeah go to ask for forgiveness and then you yeah you're good yeah fuck man it's it's we're getting canceled this pod no we're not we're talking about religion
Starting point is 01:20:48 No, we're not. This is your opinion. This is our daily, fuck. I mean, we have our podcast here. This is the shit we talk about. We haven't gotten canceled yet. What does the name of your podcast so that everyone listening knows? Timbo Sugar Show.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Nice. How many days a week you guys do it? Once a week. Yeah, we pop out one once a week. And what do you guys mostly talk about so the people listening know? I mean, we pretty much every pod has something to do with the UFC. If there's a fight coming up, talk a lot about eating healthy, sleeping better, hide like those core things is kind of when we started our pod um you know we'll recap this trip
Starting point is 01:21:23 obviously little things like that but but but but improving mental mental health stuff like that but yeah with some humor every fucking thing yeah that's the thing i like the most though you bringing up like the meditation stuff like i actually didn't know that about you guys that you like practiced that i knew obviously you guys took the the sleep stuff series the food the training but the meditation stuff like when did that really start like you said you listen to obri how many years ago was that abry was more so with the open the relationship it I really got into because I fucking when I broke my jaw they wired my face shut for like eight weeks and it was so tight like that it just shot headaches up here and I was like
Starting point is 01:21:58 I can't fucking live like this I want to kill myself so I'm like I got to get through it so then I started just looking into stoicism and meditation and reading the Tim Ferrisset and I started doing it and started realizing just how fucking powerful and how much it's changed my life and you started teaching him that just kind of talking to him about it say hey researches dude I think this is super important especially for fighting so that's like guys like sam harris the waking up app doing different apps to learn how to meditate like he has a 50 day course where you do it every morning
Starting point is 01:22:26 and you kind of like learn you start at three minutes then you go to five minutes then you go to 10 minutes and like just learning how to make i mean it's not waking hard you just fucking i mean there's different ways and i say have you have you have you noticed meditation like making not just fighting better but just like your relationships or like dude when something happens that you weren't expecting to happen, you either can go off that initial emotion and let it take over, or you can be like,
Starting point is 01:22:50 oh, damn, I see that emotion coming. Let's decide which way I want to go, which is the best way to go. Yeah. I want to be like you. So you said the waking up after. No, I'm so serious. I want to I want to learn to meditate so bad. I'm just someone who like, we'll sit down and do it. I'm like, this is fucking stupid. Too much Adderall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably too much out. No, I one thing, I don't, I don't take Adderall until I, I don't know why I can't I'm eating breakfast and worked out, you know, I don't, you know. She's like, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:23:20 You're right. I'm looking in my head and I'm like, is this working? Is it working right now? Am I meditating yet? It is working. It is working. So that's the thing is like, it's like just letting that, it's like letting that just keep go and like till it kind of calms down.
Starting point is 01:23:33 That's like the key to it. I'll be there all day. They're like focused on your breathing and I'm like, oh my God, I have labored breathing. I have cancer. I have a lorn tumor. Overthinking. Oh my God. I am really convinced I have.
Starting point is 01:23:43 cancer like no I don't know if you look at my search history right now you would think well actually you would see porn because I watched porn to go to bed last night but nice before I was watching porn I was Googling esophageal cancer because I like turned you on it gets her hyped up no I swear I'm like now porn I can't I also haven't been able to like orgasm lately because I'm really stressed out I don't know if you guys have like experiences but when I get really stressed and really like depressed I can't orgasm yeah like when I'm in my head like when you're super in your head Guys get orgasms, but don't matter.
Starting point is 01:24:14 I will sit there with a vibrator on full blast. Literally, it could fucking give an earthquake or some shit. Split a fault. I will hold it on my clip for 35 minutes. And it's just like, I feel nothing. I can't seriously. Ripped to Adderall. I can't feel anything.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I wonder if the Adderall in the bank has anything. It could be that fucking vape. No, okay, because like four days ago, I had like, I was squirting, right? And then now I'm just like not able to. I think like for me too, I go through sight. where I'm like very horny and then there's times where I'm like I'm just not that horny yeah that's that's accurate super accurate the moon fucking shit you know it's a moon in the gravity in the waves and shit gravity's off that's why I can't orgasm no it's like I think
Starting point is 01:24:58 you're just in your head I think so too I think I'm like sitting there like trying to come so bad because I'm I get pissed off I'm not even kidding like wow I get really upset because I'm like this is there something wrong with me how many hours a day do you think you like scrolling six to seven scrolling on the phone. Oh, I'd say probably two or three. Really? I don't get on my phone very much because that's like social media makes me feel really overwhelmed. Yeah. So. I wonder if you should stop taking Adderall. Yes. I don't want to stop. Or up the dose. Oh my God. No, like you're probably right. Maybe I should like try not to, but when I don't take it, I feel like I'm a lesser of a person. And I know
Starting point is 01:25:37 that's bad, but it's like I feel like I'm not, I feel like my ADHD takes over. And then it's kind of, you know I mean. I probably feel like that for a few days and then kind of probably be tough, dude. It would be very tough. Coming off heroin, like, that's probably what it'd be like. It's meth, okay? It's not heroin, but no, I mean, I want to stop smoking weed. I don't know if you guys smoke weed, but... Yeah, I enjoy a little puff. Yeah, I have to take time off of that every once in a while. You like to lift when you're high or switch it up to you? Yes. Yes, I love it. It's actually incredible. But you've talked about this before how you can't get too high. It's like a certain amount.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Yeah, if I get too high, I get terrible anxiety. Yeah. I think I'm going to die. It's like, I need to step out of the gym and be like, fuck, what's going on? You have one side of weight. It's just like racked up. The other side's not even on there. Yeah, I'm just not. What the fuck? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:26:20 Why do I feel like, no, I just like totally get in my own head and like, it's just, I get full-blown anxiety if I'm too high. Do you guys smoke? Yeah, usually we smoke. We try not to abuse it, but and fucking get our shit done during the day and then smoke at the night. But I wonder how much of that anxiety and shit comes from shitty weed. Yeah. That's a huge fucking thing. Or just pesticides on that weed and you're just going.
Starting point is 01:26:40 growing as fast. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Yeah. But when it's like perfect, like just the right amount, oh my God, these workouts are insane. I like my favorite high. Well, right now, it's probably like a low temp dab, just a small dab. I can't even take a dab.
Starting point is 01:26:54 I'm afraid of that. It's because you've taken too big of a dab. If you take a tiny dab on a low temp, it's such a smooth high. I feel like it's just you get too high when you take dows. If you take a little dab, I'm talking a tiny dab, it fucking hits you. He's probably only done dabs that there's a torch and you fucking dab. Yeah, like, I'm just thinking. And the dabs with Steve will do it.
Starting point is 01:27:12 This guy used to put like a fucking giant. Like, I couldn't do that. Yeah, that would fuck me. He has these doctor dabber things that you can do it on a high temp, low temp, or a medium temp, and you can just do a little bit really clear head and high. It doesn't, you don't get anxious. Do you ever get anxious? If I get too, oh, like in general?
Starting point is 01:27:31 No, no, when you smoke. Oh, fuck yeah. If I get too high, dude, I hate being too high. You got to say Brad a dabber. Like drinking too much caffeine. Yeah, I like drinking too much caffeine. I'm like, I don't like being too much caffeine. I'm like, fucking, you know what I feel like, I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 01:27:44 Just like get too high or being overdoing anything, eating too many fucking cheeseburger. Yeah. But yeah, getting too high. Have you ever trained? Have you ever, like, not, not that. Jitsu high, jitzsche high is fucking fire. He's a UFC fighter. Yeah, and he's been training to do everything.
Starting point is 01:27:59 I mean, UFC is there's just like everything. You can do jih Tzu and maybe that's a fight. Yes, you could also wrestle, you could strike. I want, I just want to make it clear. I have no fucking idea what UFC is. Really? No, you know what UFC is. I like, no, but it's like, I didn't know that you could just like jujitsu somebody.
Starting point is 01:28:14 How many sides are on the octagon? Okay. And I'm eight. That's not, that's math. That's pretty good. I know. I get confused, like, because in boxing, you can't kick somebody. Correct.
Starting point is 01:28:24 But like in UFC? And then there's MMA. MMA is, it's martial arts. UFC is the promotion. Like football and NFL. MMA. Oh. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Oh, okay. Cool. Cool. And so like, I've always wondered this. I know it's probably a stupid question. Can you hit someone in the balls or is that illegal? No. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Used to be legal. Hey, I think about how I'm going to win this fight. I'm absolutely grabbing the nuts. What about that? What about that rule when like the knees down, you can't kick them or something? It's different in other states, but yeah, if they're knees down, you can't. Actually, the knees down, you can't kick to the head. You can kick them in the body.
Starting point is 01:28:57 But if they're both feet are down and the hands down, you can't kick to the head either. Unless that comes up, you can go. So if they're down, you can't kick them in the head pretty much. Oh, that's a fair rule. You got to jump on them in fucking hammering. That's a fair rule. elbow them in the head but you just can't keep him in like one fc in japan's promotion it's like the ufc but in uh asia you can kick him in the face on the ground and shit and stomp are there any rules
Starting point is 01:29:18 that you think are stupid yeah that's a good question um any rules that i think are stupid like you're not it's a weird rule you're not allowed to like 12 to 6 elbow down this which is so stupid because you could fucking suck you can kick someone in the head up they're standing up which is way more damage than if i was to like try to hit someone like that it's a it's a dumb rule like Like if someone's head is here, hitting them here. They don't want you to do it. And you can do it at like an angle, but like 12 to 6. It's a fucking.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I kind of get that rule, though. You could fucking compress their spine, compress their neck. You're strong. And you can't when you stomp them too. But there's a lot of spots where you could fucking spike the top of someone's head and fuck them up. Yeah. Could you hammer fist? You can't even do.
Starting point is 01:29:56 You can't even do this to someone's body. Like 12 to 6. Yeah, that's dumb. But you can hit someone like this. Oh, yeah. So what's the difference between an elbow and a hand? Elbows. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Is it harder? I don't know. Sharper. fuck you know it's a little it's a little harder I mean not really I would be way more scared to hit someone with my elbow that would hurt really bad what's your what's your favorite move I think I asked it but trying to give all your competitors an edge right now I don't know like what's your go to he's like I just
Starting point is 01:30:26 smoke screen I don't know what do you think like there's just so many different fucking tricks it'd be hard to say one yeah yeah you just throw some clean combo I can just stand both stances and do pretty much exactly like you you could do both like very easily just was natural like I could hit you as hard with my left hand as I go to my right which is kind of rare in fighting like some people can switch stances and they can throw like a decent jab but they can't throw a both yeah yeah and I've like yeah so I feel like that's a huge advantage for me defensively and offensively what do you think the the the thing in fighting that you overcome the most um well at last
Starting point is 01:31:06 dude I had fucking bruised ribs and I hadn't grappled for three weeks I literally was running and hitting mits I didn't spar or grapple and like going into that fight I had no idea how my ribs were feeling because I hadn't trained I didn't even fucking like put tested it because last time three weeks before the fight I tried to and I couldn't even like you couldn't hug me my ribs hurt too so too bad so going to that last fight I was like I cannot let this motherfucker grab me which is like it's like a whole added level like layer and he was a fucking black belt jiu jihitsu and he was a fucking black belt jiu jihitsu. Well, dude, and you get so much your confidence Going into a fight from sparring Like, okay, I can go 15 minutes You didn't spar I didn't do my three five At the end of camp You're like, okay, this is, you know
Starting point is 01:31:47 A fresh guy each round In a fight, it's obviously the same guy each round So the whole fight, you're like, I can't let this guy touch me And I wasn't more like I can't let this guy touch me It was like this motherfucker's not touching me Like I'm gonna piece him up And I'm gonna knock him out That was like my thought process
Starting point is 01:32:01 And I was right And how much does like that thought process And like the mental side come into fighting Well, two times, listen, two times in this conversation, I posed the question very similar like that. And his response every time was like, no, I'm going to do this. So it's clear. That's what made me ask because it sounds like. A lot of that came from meditation, being able to interrupt my thoughts and have the thoughts that I want to have rather than you close your eyes and you see like, oh my God, my fucking ribs are going to break this fight.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Like, you can once you get good enough of meditation, you can kind of start to form what kind of thoughts you actually want to have rather than their thoughts. taking over and you can't you can't just do that you got to practice meditation and in being able to interrupt your thoughts well i think it's just so fucking important and just and just counter them dude especially in fighting like you have no fucking idea what's going to have a fight you see you didn't visualize a fight visualize a fight oh it's going good it's going good then you go on the fight and something bad happens that you didn't visualize you got you got to just be able to counter thoughts counter something like oh this guy put me an arm bar well fuck i'm to stack them up clear my elbow and just counter it with with the right move yeah and
Starting point is 01:33:05 that is something that's like inspiring because I struggle with like intrusive thoughts like I think they really affects yeah everyone does and like learning skills like I'm just getting better at it I'm not gonna I don't know if you ever become just like I'm just like all day I don't think you know well dude but then you see like Aubrey and how deep he goes to it and it's like fuck I don't know if I want to get to that spot I still want to be a little crazy he's deep it's it's impressive though but you've done this so so young man like yeah I really think like I told you this before off camera, whatever. I think you're going to be like the fucking guy in the UFC in the next few years, man.
Starting point is 01:33:40 That's the plan. I mean, I've thought that since before I was in the UFC. Like I have interviews before I was in the UFC. Like I'm going to be that guy. Before Connor was that guy, I was like a low level. I was like had a lot of amateur fights.
Starting point is 01:33:51 I wanted to kind of get into the UFC and be that motherfucker. Like Connor was the first. Yeah. I wanted to be that. Connor was that, which I thought was important for me to learn from. Yeah. And I think I'm going to just go on a similar path,
Starting point is 01:34:02 but take it to another level. like even further I believe it I fully believe that man with it hopefully not lose my mind I think I mean made a hundred million dollars
Starting point is 01:34:11 like fucking you kind of try to stay humble but it's hard I think he got to earn he earned a little bit to go a little crazy
Starting point is 01:34:20 oh yeah why not yeah no I don't want to fucking get to a point where I'm throwing a dolly at a fucking bus but I also kind of do but it's like dude
Starting point is 01:34:28 I mean he what he made he got the proper 12 deal he's got the big to giant UFC he's got Floyd fight that guy just I think what this they just said he did like he was the highest earner athlete this past year wasn't he per minute I think yeah I saw that I think it was 20 21 he made like eight million dollars a minute because he fought cowboy serone it was like a 40 second fight or something oh okay that's what like the I think that's what the stats was that kind of fucked with people like
Starting point is 01:34:54 what the fuck you make more Canello yeah because canela fights for 36 minutes or whatever it is yeah you saw that too then yeah I saw that sometimes I wonder like do you guys think that Connor McGregor is like the skill is there or do you think that his social media presence his attitude and personality are what really like got him to where he is he's extremely high level fighter that just truly believed in himself i don't think he was like he obviously wasn't unbeatable but his skill levels definitely yeah you can't not you can you can't i mean the ufc you can't just be like i'm getting social media so like get knocked out you know what i'm saying like Of course not, but it feels like to be the highest earner, like athlete, it took his personality and like polarizing people.
Starting point is 01:35:37 100% exactly what it took. I don't watch fighting, but I could tell you exactly who Connor McGregor is. Exactly. And that's kind of what we're talking about with him. Like I think he has the same potential, if not greater. Like his trajectory is the same thing. Dude, it's so funny. Like this lady came up to us before we left from Phoenix to here and we were eating breakfast.
Starting point is 01:35:55 And this lady came up and she just could not believe I was a fight. No way, honey. You just could not believe out of the fighter. Just based on how you looked. Yeah, I don't know how like someone must have told her and like she came over. It's just so funny. I like I just tell you don't think he looks like a fighter. No, when you face time me, I was like oh, I'm like some hot tattoo artist wants to talk to me. That's dope. That's exciting. No, I tell people my rapper. He's done a tattoo for someone. I didn't know. I didn't know six nine tatted me. I didn't do shit. I would not have to me. No, I fucking can't. I'm so bad with like, oh my God. And have you always had tattoos? tattoos like as a kid were you like the kid that was a minor with a sleep no I wait until I was 18 and then I started getting like either like a religious tattoo or like a family tattoo so my parents weren't like super mad but I wanted to get tattoos so right when I turned 18 so this one was like a religious one which one I hear which one is it that was brand new the king the king chest chest which one again he's like touched that again yeah I know well I don't see I got two
Starting point is 01:36:54 I don't know which one they're on which side like I forget I have like face tattoos sometimes I'm talking like adults and Yeah, I've been staring at this heart the whole time. I'm just a little up. It just doesn't connect right there at the bottom. Should you get a face tattoo? You should. I should, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Might as well. Or a butt tattoo. Yeah, we talked about that the other day. I have one. It's right here. Oh. Yeah, it's a constellation. But what about you?
Starting point is 01:37:18 And when did you start getting tattoos? Fucking 18. Nice. Popping on, yeah. When are we going to get Brad some tattoos? I have one tattoo right here. I know. When do you throw on your ice that Steve gave you just once in a while?
Starting point is 01:37:28 every once in a while yeah it's just rare for me man I just not a big like he's got a rollette yesterday I'm just not a big jewelry guy yeah I wasn't until Steve gave me some shit and I'm like no I am he pulls it off good though yeah no you you pull it off
Starting point is 01:37:42 yeah it's fitting for you I know I'm supposed to dude we were supposed to go this jewelry store Saturday morning at 10 but I fucking went to bed at 8 and he's knocking on my door like let's go and I thought I was gonna I couldn't even move my leg or nothing I'm like I can't I can't do it
Starting point is 01:37:57 It's so funny the same thing I try to get him on the pod he's like nah dude if I would have came on the pod I would have performed shitty dude I would have sat here like I would just it would not have been good glad we fucking yeah I'm glad you guys there where's the Rolex I want to know I'm not wearing I'm like why the fuck do you want to wear that shit that's what I'm saying they're investments you have one watches are investments yeah yeah you just let it sit yeah dude and they just keep climbing yeah it's just to get this fucking roll iced out Rolex yesterday and I fucking fucked up. Why? I just didn't make it. I wasn't able to fucking open my eyes. I would be wearing two right now just in case. Damn, just in case you need to know what time this one was,
Starting point is 01:38:35 that I don't even say it's not even accurate. Like, I don't even know what I mean. Let's ask two, we got to ask the audience questions before we get out of you. Let's do it. Okay. So audience questions, I don't have a mic so one of you guys can repeat it. But it says, do you believe in love or what are your perceptions about love? And it's also, this one's specific to Brad. Do you still feel connected to your dad in any way or strategy you hold from the past that you have worked through and forgotten. P.S. you got Nigerians watching your pot.
Starting point is 01:39:05 That's dope. So the first question was, do I, do we believe in love? And what are your perceptions about love? And what, and what do I think? How do I view love? That's a deep question. Yeah. That's, I mean, what do I think about it?
Starting point is 01:39:19 I mean, it's, I think love is the thing that every single person, and it's the thing we're all trying to attain and feel for ourselves. Like it's like the ultimate currency. Like why anyone does anything that is like you fight, like some sort of love that you have for that, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:34 just like you could have love for another person. Like everything we do revolves around love. I think it's, again, it's the ultimate currency. It's the thing that our lives are centered around. And sex obviously is like a derivative of it, right? Not exactly like a... Well, I think being in the moment is love.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Like we're in this podcast right now. There's love in this. room I think love looked at very that book do masterly love will make change your perspective on what love is yeah I think just being anytime you're in the moment anytime you're present not in your head that you're there's love in the room there's love whatever you're doing when you're when you're present in the moment yeah so you can be in love in so many different ways yeah not just like intimate love I mean like friendship wise like you know what you're doing for like your work what you're doing like for your passion but that's I'm saying I think
Starting point is 01:40:19 we're all just trying to reveal that for ourselves. I agree. And I think love is one thing, but passion is another. Like, I think with love comes passion, but how much passion you have for something will dictate, you know, how well you do in that relationship or in your career, whatever it is. Like, the passion that comes with love, I think,
Starting point is 01:40:37 is the important thing. Because you can love someone or something and do nothing about it. And, I mean, what's not going to do for anybody? There's plenty of people that are in love and they don't tell each other, or they hate each other and fight, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:48 it's the thing we all want it's the thing we all look for the things we all like search for like straight up that's why we do everything um and then the other part of the question was what do you just feel connected to your dad in any way or is his tragedy um something you hold from the past that you have worked through and forgot do i still feel connected to my dad in any way or is it something that i of course i mean this is to give you the most basic answer is like you know it's a thing that uh like that kind of stuff never goes away losing a father figure losing a parent losing a brother losing a sister it doesn't matter like my situation is just a little different than someone else's um that kind of stuff never ever goes away but it the the beautiful thing is like
Starting point is 01:41:30 as you age you come to terms with it differently throughout your life and it allows you to you know use that energy towards other positive things in your life and and that's what I've been able to do over time and it took me time yeah accepting it you go through different phases of it um but no it'll never not be a part of my life. I mean, that's, that's the thing that drove me so, so like strongly when I was younger. And now it's kind of evolved into a different thing in my life where I've kind of become the father figure that I always wanted. So it's always a part of my life. And it's, it's the thing that got me to where I'm at and, you know, hopefully it continues to take me further. So do you ever feel him like around you? I know that's like a weird
Starting point is 01:42:06 question, but like do you ever, do you believe in like ghosts, spirits, energy, things of that nature? And do you ever feel like he's around you? I didn't experience the other day, so I'm wondering if you've ever had anything like that. I've had tons of experiences like that. Um, you're not going to like crazy detail about them, but like, yeah, I mean, I feel like I, I communicate with my father in a different way that obviously is not me speaking to you here. Um, more through the things that I'm doing. Fuck, this just makes me cry. Don't get upset. It's okay. Yeah, it's heavy shit, dude. I don't think a lot of people know what to do when, when they lose a loved one. There's not like, but you'd have to just maybe listen to professionals on podcasts, go to therapy. I just, thankfully, I haven't lost a loved one,
Starting point is 01:42:49 but I just don't really know what I would do. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, you just like, you find a different way. Like, a buddy of mine, his mom just recently passed away, like kind of out of nowhere. And I was trying to explain to him, because I've obviously dealt with this when I was really young, that, like, your experience with them will never be the same.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Like, it's never physical. Like, right now I can hear it touch Sean, right? like it's never going to be like that again but you you learn at least what i try to do is learn a different way to connect with that person obviously not physically right because you can anymore but through different means you could allow yourself to connect or like i almost kind of have them by your side in a way they can help either guide you or push you or or keep you strong in moments where you feel weak and and that's kind of what i've done and focused on so yeah yeah anyways next question before you fuckers make me cry god damn it dude sorry guys someone asked
Starting point is 01:43:47 Right, honestly, why don't you fuck your call-up? Right. We kind of covered that one. Yeah, yeah, we covered that. That's funny. Okay, so this other one, it works for everyone. It just says, where do you guys see yourself in 10 years? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:44:00 You're the classic. Jail. And what is your life goal? So where do you see yourself in 10 years and what is your life goal? Dude, I've always hated these five, 10-year questions because it's just like, everything that I've done to this point, I'm like, I'm still just figuring it out. Like, that's kind of what life is. just trying to figure shit out and you don't really know.
Starting point is 01:44:19 I just know that I go towards the things that make me happier, the things that I feel most fulfilled doing it, I just try and do more of them. So, like, I don't really have a direct, like, this is what I want to do or where I want to be exactly, because I didn't even know right now where I'm sitting that this is exactly what I wanted. It was just like, kind of like a general idea.
Starting point is 01:44:36 And fuck, I made it. I'm grateful, you know. 37, 100 Millie, champ, champ, drug addict. I want to be the biggest entertainer in the world I won't fuck you money for whatever reason I've always wanted that since I was like a kid and it's like a moat I don't know it's like I know I don't need that
Starting point is 01:44:57 if I don't it's like that's not what makes me happy but it's like something that's like that's what I do I wake up and you know I enjoy the business aspect of the stuff that I do so I won't fuck you money basically yeah yeah respect just keep fucking enjoying my time and having good relationships with the people I'm around. I know there's not going to be a point where it's like, oh, I got to this point.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Now I'm happy. And I'm happy forever because I got to this point. So it's just enjoying everything I do. I want to be able to help my dad. He works really hard. And I want to be able to retire him and buy him nice things and give him the life that he wants. So that's where I want to be in 10 years. Schwab was saying that you wanted to get a super fight.
Starting point is 01:45:39 A super fight? Did he talk about that on the podcast? He brought it up after. So what if they offered you, they said, okay, boxing match with KSI. No, not KSI. No, who's the big bodybuilder. True, true, George. No, no, not him.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Oh, shit. Who's the big black bodybuilder who's gay with a ponytail? What? Oh, I know who you're talking about. With a ponytail? I know who you're talking about. Is Kai gay? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Oh, I didn't know that. The big fucking Jack black guy. Kai Green. Yes. Did he come out? He's gay. Yeah, it's clear that he's gay, I thought. Was he on Rogan?
Starting point is 01:46:13 Oh, I didn't know. that what if they offered you that one uh i would love to see that more than anything you get canceled knocked him out yeah i don't know if i really want to do boxing i think it rather do would you would you i think that'd be good i'm not seeing i'm not seeing gay here i'm pretty sure i don't think he came i don't think oh i see top bodybuilder goes gay for pay well that was when he fucked the great everyone knows about the grapefruit thing but i don't think he ever came out and said he was gay fruit yeah Is it?
Starting point is 01:46:44 That's not gay to fuck a grapefruit. Well, that's what they're saying. Like, I think he got paid, like, someone paid him to, like, do it. Fuck, who wants to pay me to fuck a grapefruit? Yeah. No, so I don't know. I don't, yeah. But you would like to get a little rumble.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Yeah, a little MMA. Dude, you got to. I think it would be good for you. Yeah. But it can't be boxing. Yeah. I want to use my whole body. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:06 I would love to see you fight somebody. My, every comment, Dan, who's Brad fighting? When is Brad's fighting? When is Brad's going to fight? I can beat Brad's ass. Let him fight me. Yeah. Yeah, everyone on the internet can beat me up
Starting point is 01:47:16 Same, same. Yeah. Do you have any other questions? Yeah. So this other person said, I go to the gym every day and fight my demons, but I feel like sometimes it's not enough. And my question is, how do I get someone back that I lost? Who I know is the one.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Jess, then Brad, and then the guest answers. So that's the order they want it. They want you to answer first? So, okay, this is a guy, this is definitely a guy asking, like, how do I get the girl? He said that I know. that I want? It says, I feel sometimes it's not enough. And my question is, how do I get someone back that I lost, who I know is supposed to be the one?
Starting point is 01:47:54 Who I know is supposed to be the one. It depends how you lost her. Okay. You want to go ahead? I know what I would say to this. I put me on the spot here. Genuinely, the only way to get somebody back is to just focus on yourself, be the best version of yourself and hope that they recognize that.
Starting point is 01:48:13 no way to no algorithm to get somebody back or to make them miss you and want to be with you again. It doesn't work. I've watched every fucking YouTube video. I've looked it up on Reddit. I've looked it up on Reddit. It's official. I have. No, I've tried looking it up because I've been in this situation where I'm like, damn, this is the one. They're not the one. I'm telling you they are not the one. You will know when it's the one and it's not going to be this hard and this painful and conflicting. It is, it's going to be easy and healthy and it's going to feel good. So just focus on yourself and hope that that person recognizes that and if they don't fuck them yeah that's the thing you you nailed it
Starting point is 01:48:47 focus on yourself because like maybe in your mind this is the one but maybe in the other person's mind it's not and maybe it just it's a different time maybe you need different timing in life like maybe you spend more time on yourself that person spends more time of themselves and at some point you come together and it makes sense but to say like this person is the one and I know and I need to get them back is like you're you're already kind of in like shaky water here where it's like something's going on where it's almost like you need to focus inward like you said on yourself if the time you make sense for that person to come back and be in your life, then that's going to kind of happen.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Obviously, it doesn't just happen out of nowhere, but, you know, I'm just to say this, if you're constantly trying to get that person back, like, come back in my life, come back in my life, come back in my life, I want you, let's make it work. That person is going farther and farther and farther away. Absolutely. Because at the end of the day, real people want what they can't have. Like, if you're banging their line all day, like telling them how available you are for their attention, they're not going to want to give it to you.
Starting point is 01:49:37 You really just need to better yourself and be the best version of you. Like, that's the only time anyone wants to put energy into anything. yeah what do you think you got covered it boys dude i forgot who what relationship expert i heard it from but they said like after every big breakup it gets worse for like six months but after six months you start adapting and you like start to go on with your shit absolutely that's a fact i think that's it boom that's it for today thank you guys so fucking much for canceling your fucking flight and coming here and doing this i appreciate that you guys are solid as fuck you have been since the day that i met you
Starting point is 01:50:09 and i wish you guys nothing but success i know i believe just as much as you you believe that you're going to be the one man i believe it i'd fucking bet on it if there was a bet right now i'd fucking make that bet i would too i would too so check them out check them out the podcast you got a youtube you vlog tibbo sugar show yeah youtube just sean o'malley that's where we post the timbo sugar show i stream on twitter sean eml ufc yep you got the instagram do you have only oh shit you know so uh yeah find them check them out drop a like drop a review uh you know leave a good comment uh apple itunes leave a cool comment give the five star all that good
Starting point is 01:50:41 shit subscribe to the channel turn the post notifications on all that shit we're out here thank you guys so much for watching to the tuggy let's go you guys are really gonna go get a tuggy yeah you really want to tug you solid you guys have some shit you said you do yeah I guess I gotta go to a fucking that's with the landlord right to that too that's fun that was fun that was good king thank you and the book that you already called the look no I'll call it that was fun that was fun I'm so glad we canceled that flight we came you too I was gonna be pissed I'm like that's the part I wanted to do yeah because they these motherfuckies gave you look like
Starting point is 01:51:18 you did you did job Theo no we didn't do Theo oh he didn't we didn't have time okay job and that's it I know we did Jeff but I was dude it was dog I'm swear to god like I was fuck it was dog shit I was so fucked up Mike Maylock was on us and he talked the whole got but I was like and Mike was our he was driving us around yeah but dude the Jeff what you guys didn't listen you guys were we were in the room but dude I was just sad I felt the I had slept two hours I was coming out from Molly had a horrible hangover and the lights were on me and I was just like in from me Mike did good Jeff did good so I'm glad I was able to yeah it was good

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