RAWTALK - Sean O'malley's Biggest Fight EVER VS. Aljamain Sterling, Banging Fat Chicks & Fighting High
Episode Date: August 15, 2023Sean O'malley's Biggest Fight EVER VS. Aljamain Sterling, Banging Fat Chicks & Fighting HighJoin us on this weeks episode of RawTalk with Suga Sean O'Malley! In this episode we dive deep into his ...Biggest fight Ever with Aljamain Sterling, Tim Welch's secret fat chick stories & Suga Sean O'Malley fighting high. SPONSORS: TRAP CASINO: http://bit.ly/BradleyMartyn & bonus code "MARTYNSPORTS" to get a deposit match of up to $300 on any deposit over $30. GREENCHEF: https://www.greenchef.com/RAWTALK50 USE CODE: RAWTALK50 TO GET 50% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDERSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK...LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: / @rawtalkclip SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: / @bradleymartyn SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartyn...RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)
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I'm going to ask him who can win in a street fight.
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No, so anyways, I wanted to come here because obviously you have a massive fight coming up.
I do.
And, you know, you guys have been working together for years.
How many years have you guys actually been working together?
Fuck, probably around 10 at this point.
Like, since I moved the Phoenix, pretty much consider us working together.
Have you ever involved, like, other coaches that are like,
there for you well i have i have strength and conditioning brandon harris who's i've been working
with him for probably four or five years now um augusto mendes our uh jihitsu coach who's a
one of the best to ever do it he's in my corner so tim brandon tank are in my corner but it's
like tim and brandon are people i work with multiple times every single week and then dan garner
my nutritionist it's you know not in the fight game but it's huge part of um the career so yeah
definitely have a bunch of different coaches but
But Tim's like the head coach that kind of runs the MMA stuff.
Yeah.
So the fight's on the 19th, right?
Yeah.
As you get closer, do you notice like you're just so much?
Because you seem super sharp right now.
Like mentally sharp.
I haven't smoked weed.
You what?
I haven't been smoking weed.
At all.
No, I took, I probably am about, I want to say, over two weeks.
I took one edible like last Saturday.
But that's about it.
But yeah, I've been smoking.
I always feel way more clear-headed and sharp when I'm not smoking.
But it's always so fun.
Yeah, I'm a lot more.
dreams have been vivid as fuck um without smoking but yeah i i feel sharp you know i've been
in a long fucking fight camp like we knew about this fight before i knew i was fighting either
alj or henry before they fought so i've known i'm gonna fight yeah for a long fucking time
like this this at the end of it will be the longest training camp i've ever done for
sure as far as dieting and kind of like do you think you that's like draws you out though
like if you're doing it for that one because i'm thinking as like bodybuilder perspective
if you're dieting for this long,
do you think it makes you weaker?
No, I think I'm good at, you know,
I know what day we need a peak.
I know what week we need a peak,
and I have, that's where Brandon really comes in handy
and kind of the strength and conditioning stuff that I do.
It's like we have,
I've had two weeks where they've been calm weeks,
chill weeks, like really hard,
and then we, easier week, really hard.
So I've, we've broken it down in like a 12-week thing.
So I'm not worried about it.
Like, I'm still able to get,
up and train fucking hard i'm not like god this shit over yet so i i feel like we're doing it right
yeah so you can feel like you can sustain it yeah your diet does your diet so i'm assuming like
you're obviously training striking and jiu jitzu and all that but like you're talking about
the strength training into the fight you're like ramping up to a point where you feel your strongest
or do you not so worry so much about strength towards it um no we definitely worry about strength
especially in a guy like al germane who's yeah probably the strongest guy in the division um
As far as just from a strength perspective and grappling, he's probably the strongest guy in the division.
So, yeah, we're definitely focused on strength.
But, yeah, I am getting sick of my meal plans because it is chicken, quinoa, you know, steak, rice.
I don't mind.
A fucking steak and rice is hard to beat.
Yeah, Brandon has you, like, lifting heavy a little farther out, and then he moves into it more explosive stuff and then longer stuff, right?
Yeah, so we're not fucking, yeah, yeah, exactly.
We're lifting heavier on the later and later out in the camp and then we're, you know, we change it into more explosive stuff.
explosive shit right now because my weight has to come down too so I'm not gonna when I lift heavy I'll get hungry bro I'm sure you fucking though Jesus like you lift you lift you get hungry what's the what's the chirp on like him like an algo basically like not dieting in time because I see you you tweeted you like this guy's like no he makes weight I mean he's always made weight I'm just I cut weight I feel like I cut an average amount of weight normal for the sport and it's fucking hard dude like you see me way in day
you see any of the guys,
it's fucking miserable.
He's quite a bit bigger.
He's a big motherfucker.
And he knows,
he knows these next couple of weeks.
I'm still eating good-ass meals.
I'm still eating fucking good-ass meals.
I'm sure slowly,
it's in August 4th right now.
Slowly,
the more,
the closer we get to the way ends,
he's going to be,
he just has to start eating less.
So he diets into the fights,
heavy.
I think he's going to crash diet.
I mean,
that's kind of what Tim had said,
and I agree.
It seems like he's going to,
even right now,
he might be still eating good,
but there's going to come to a point
where he's going to have to,
really fucking limit those calories.
Are you basins just off what you know of him,
like what he looks like? What is his normal walk around
weight? He's always bragging
about how big he is and how heavy he is
and how much he weighs and he's going up to 145
because he's so big and he's just
been saying that for the last three, four fights
that's just these weight cuts are too hard.
He's too big. So, I mean, that's just coming
from him. Yeah, and he looks like
right now he looks more shredded than he's
ever to look. Yeah, he posted a video
the other day. I saw it flexing.
He said after his workout too, which
A lot of MMA Jiu-Jitsu workouts,
you'll lose six, seven pounds of water weight.
He said after his workout, he was 157 pounds.
So what's that?
We're fighting at 135, and he's probably 160 still.
Oh, shit.
Like he cuts the way.
I mean, he wakes the weight.
It's not, some people say, oh, that's cheating or he's a weight bully.
I mean, he makes the weight, but that.
But, yeah.
He cuts a lot of, a lot of, you lose a lot of brain fluid when you cut that much weight.
When you're that dehydrated, that's where I'm like,
just that dieting in general where you have.
to like crash to a weight that's just harder that's harder to compete at that weight i know it for
sure yeah i mean he went five fives with henry sehudo who was the double champ who is i mean he's still
performing he's still making weight he's still doing good he's defended the belt more than any
bantam weight has ever defended the belt um he's in his prime he's 33 you know so i i don't know
if it's going to play a role or not but you know i like to think it is yeah and you see it's science you
cut that much weight you dehydrate yourself that much it is not good for your brain yeah you
cannot take the shot that you would be able to take not cutting that much weight and i fucking find
people's chins yeah and like he's never faced anyone like shug and shug's never faced anyone like
him so yeah i want to talk about that i mean this is probably going to be one of your harder fights
probably your hardest fight 100% i mean we'll see i go out there and knock him out early you could say it
wasn't but as far as the the skill set he he has yeah he's the best that guy i've ever fought for
true yeah because this this guy we watched the last one i mean this guy's just he's planning to just
take you down i'm assuming that's his plan yeah it's there's zero secret on what his game
plan is or what mine is my game plan is do not let him grab me his game plan is grab me it's
very simple for me for me it's a simple game plan hard to execute don't let him grab me
simple as that yeah he fought cori sanagan who's similar style same lanky literally sprinted
right at cori sanhagen took him down choked him out 45 seconds like yeah
could have been less than that but small cage um but yeah he's going to want to come in there
and get the job done quick i feel like i you know he's been saying he has these injuries and he's not
you know his weight cuts are too hard so i feel like he's going to come in there and try to get
the job done early which could really fuck him over and you know in the later rounds you don't think
he's just sandbagging like all the complaining about his weight cuts i do i do a little bit think
because he's been saying he's like seriously injured for like eight months and he goes and
fights Henry Sehudo 5-5 so they didn't look injured at all so he he might be you know I'm not
not taking it like I'm not like okay he's he's injured I'm gonna go in there he's injured don't
I'm I'm expecting him to have a good weight cut and be healthy yeah be 100% and he's gonna be
more confident than he's ever been yeah yeah so do you are you is your training shifted
or changed knowing like this is who you're going to go against like are you changing
the way that you're training my training camps have pretty much always been like all right
they're going to try to take you down yeah he's just the best
in the world at it.
But yeah, my training camps,
I would say as far as Peter Yonwin
wasn't as much as like,
all right,
he's going to try to take you down
and grapple fuck you
because he's such a good boxer.
He's such a good kickboxer.
That in my head,
I'm like, this dude ain't gonna fucking shoot on me.
And that was a mental mistake.
I went in there thinking
it was going to be a kickboxing match.
Constantly, we're still grappling.
I didn't literally just kickbox that camp.
I was still grappling,
but I was not expecting him to shoot as much as he did.
But I forget, that's just what happens
when I start putting hands on people
that are going to shoot.
So I'm expecting Al Jermaine to,
to come in there and shoot.
Yeah.
What round do you think is going to end in?
Real prediction.
It's so hard.
Asking you, this is so tough.
Yeah.
I mean, ideally, I go out there,
take him out on the first round.
That's how I've always wanted my fights to go.
I've always wanted to go out there
and put people's lights out in the first round.
And you look at my career, my UFC,
well, even before that,
if I don't finish from the first round,
I do drop people at least in the first round.
I will find his chin.
You know, and like I said,
he's cut a lot of weight,
so it's going to be up to his chin
to decide if he can take those shots.
shots and I have to deliver those shots before he does get a hold of me but I am very confident
I'm very hard to take down I'm not easy to take down he's not going to go in there and just be
able to grab me super easy so I do believe in in my skill set to avoid the take down to
wrestling defense and to find his chin yeah damn I'm so fucking excited for this fight man
it's a big fight this is like I always feel so because I can know you it's always so personal
I'm like we watch these fights we get so fucking riled up yeah you were there when fucking in
Abu Dhabi I mean you saw me how I think you saw me after I
thought Peter like short like right after I thought Peter I was fucking bro I gotta say this
is like you people would never see because they don't show this shit yeah like after the fact
so we saw you before getting hyped up putting your putting your wraps on like literally like
dialed we all were like uh we probably can't go say something to him right now because he's you
are so zoned in like we would have been awkward if we came up to you and then after the fight
this is after the yawn right remember you come into the hallway and you're like literally like
like you look like you were dying
like you were I gave every single last bit of energy I had
you know I left I literally left it all out there
and uh that's that's how I got the job done
I had to literally give everything I had out there
and yeah and he hit me with a hard left hand in the second round
um so I was definitely concussed you get cracked like that
you're concussed and if anyone's if you're at a concussion
you don't understand how that makes you feel but concussions fucking suck
I bet you if you had a heart rate monitor on during that fight, it would be 210.
Dude, it was, it probably hit 210, for real.
It's so crazy.
Look, and I think this fighting shit is just, in general, just the most, like, one of the intense things you could ever do as far as sports goes.
As far as, yeah, 100%.
That's fighting a cage.
I mean, you guys are like going there to fucking kill each other.
It's killer be killed in there.
Obviously, there's a ref.
Obviously, there's time limit.
But mentally, it's killer be killed for pretty much everyone that steps in there.
And if it's not, those guys prior are winning.
Yeah.
When did, when you, because, like, training for them.
that right because when i think about the fighting it's like that's the thing that i know that
i guess it's just repetition because there's that fight or flight response when you're going
to fight someone that like you know most people normally would like they'd get to fight at a bar
that shit lasts like they have like 15 20 good seconds of a fight and then they're they're out
because of how much adrenaline dump when when you like at what point in your career did you start
to get a handle on like that flow where like you didn't feel like because i'm assuming in your
earlier career you probably get in the fights and you'd have more of that dump where you're like
I'm tired fast.
Yeah.
I had 12 amateur MMA fights, four boxing fights, four kickboxing fights.
So by the time I turned pro, I had a pretty dialed in.
I had a lot of experience before I even turned pro.
Okay.
Even the early eighth fight, like in Great Falls, Montana, though, like, still weren't the best of your energy.
Remember in the rounds you'd be having your hands on your knees?
As an amateur?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I was, I mean, I'd definitely fucking had to go through a learning phase, but.
That's the difference between, like, an amateur and a pro, though.
It's just being, like, efficient with your energy.
That's the biggest thing that no one talks about.
Some pros still don't know how to do it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, yeah, it's a game changer for sure being efficient.
Well, that seems to be like, besides obviously the technical skill and like the cardiovascular,
like that literal mental stimulation that like shoots up where you have to be able to keep it in some sort of range.
So it's not, you're not dumping all that, all that adrenaline.
You're like, oh, now I'm fucking tired.
Yeah.
And then you go in there and hurt somebody, hurt somebody and you're almost got him finished.
So then you go out there and try to empty the tank.
and now you're just like fuck but if you ask almost any pro fighter what their biggest fear is
is probably just gassing out yeah just gassing out that's that'd be my biggest fear 100%
that's my biggest fear for that's what i know when you get in your fights you're gonna give
him hell for a good minute once you gas out it doesn't matter how fucking skills you are if
you're gas oh you're done you can't fight yeah your arms are just like you can't do shit
yeah and mentally you're just you just you're just like fuck there's nothing i can do you start
looking for a way out just waiting to get knocked out or what like yeah for much that's a scary
shit yeah fighting's fucked up so it is it is how long you think you're gonna do this shit for
um it's probably just until i can't until my body's until my body's done or if i you know
this is the crazy thing about that statement though is like when when does a fighter really know
that because like fighters they just they just keep going because a part of being obviously a great
fighter is you're going to that line of when I can't like when my body says I can't you're going to
fight that yeah I'd like to think I'm going to make enough money to wear I mean I don't really
have to fight for money obviously they're always going to be intriguing huge paydays but uh even
right now I have five houses and uh I I can I don't have to I truly believe I don't have to
fight ever again if I was very smart with my money which I am I could retire right now and
never have to fight again so I'm already kind of getting to the point to where I'm like
I get to fucking do this.
I don't have to go to, I don't have to go fight so I can pay something off.
I am, you know, so I don't know.
We'll see.
I think I'm going to take care of my body, continue to eat clean, train smart, and do my recovery stuff.
But I definitely want to continue to do this for at least minimum in the next five years.
I want to be active two, three fights a year.
And I fucking just love performing.
And, yeah, so.
So my question to that, because, like, that's the thing, you know, you think about Connor.
Not that Connor just made a bunch of money and just fucked off,
but to your point of not having to fight,
how do you keep the same sort of like fire and energy
when it comes to the fight when you know you don't have to do it?
You know what I'm saying?
Because I think that's what people are doing.
I think it's just the mindset, it's perspective.
I get to do it.
I don't have to.
I get to.
I want to.
But who knows, I could have $100 million.
I'm like, man, I really,
because going through these fucking fight camps is brutal.
It's tough.
Going through dieting, cutting weight.
It fucking sucks.
So something in my mind could for sure.
switch right now it doesn't seem like it's going to switch anytime soon i want to continue
fighting i want to get in the octagon i want to be the biggest star in the ufc so i i don't know that
i still think you're destined for that i really do believe that yeah some guys just like so they
define themselves as a fighter like look at tony ferguson i think he's on a six-fight losing
street that was tough i don't know if he has anybody around him saying hey brother like there's
you're going to live another life after this yeah do you think he should hang up the the gloves
after that last fight?
Six fight.
Yeah.
For sure.
He's gotten concussed so much, been through so many different fight camps.
He's not on the winning end of a lot of it.
Maybe go a different route.
But every person you run into, they say, win your next fight.
Or they bring up fighting.
They're just literally defined as a fighter.
So it's hard, hard for people who've dedicated 20 plus years of that to move on.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I get that obviously from a different perspective.
Just like not at all hardcore related to fighting,
but just in general on YouTube.
like people connect you to what they want to connect you to and then you kind of live off of that
and you have to like try to like see past that and it's hard sometimes like you said people
come up to you and be like well what about this what about that um i guess kind of on that on that line
like what what what i guess what else would you be doing if like we just continue podcasting
like i'd probably i mean i i i already have you know one princess one little daughter i i think
just having more kids building a tribe sounds fucking fun like that that sounds fun
I'm excited for the next part of my life when I do retire to have, you know, a couple kids, maybe a bunch of kids.
Competition-wise, like you're a competitor.
What would you do?
Spike ball.
No, no jokes.
I think Jitsu, no-gi J-Jitsu.
I definitely want to get back in the ghee.
I just, I don't feel like there's like time right now in my training, especially I feel like I'm bouncing from training camp to training camp to be in a ghee.
No-gee training's fucking fun.
I can do that when I'm, you know, 40, 45.
You can still do that, especially if I take care of myself when I can't necessarily fight.
I could do no-gey competitions, just continue to do jiu-jitsu, just being around the gym.
Tim teaches every single night, and it's, like, fun for him.
Like, it's not like it's like, he has to go to work.
He comes in and, you know, trains his soldiers.
And I think, who knows, maybe, like, Tim and I find a young stud that's coming up.
And when I'm kind of exing it out, and we take him under our wing.
I've learned so much shit in this fucking game that I have a lot of knowledge to give back to.
So that's always fun.
Being around the UFC, I think, like, going to fight weeks with one.
of our soldiers would be fucking fun so i'll probably continue to be in the game one way or another
um but yeah i think once it's once it's my time to go you know i think i have the right
tools mentally to be able to figure figure it out yeah i think you i think you have a ton of range
even just outside of fighting obviously you've proven out with social media content and shit
it is scary to think about though like thinking about some of these guys saying that's the last
fight i'm like it is it kind of gives you that little whoa but you know it has to happen so yeah at some
point so I guess I feel like I everyone would really be mad if I don't ask you this
question but or they'll be mad when I ask you this question either way I think you
know a question is coming next because Steve asked me this on his podcast and I was like
that's a tough one who wins in a street fight me or you street fight in my opinion is it
in a basketball court or is it in a cage a street fight way out no there's we got space
a lot of space I don't know yeah I mean somewhere
on a side of it's not a tight if it's not like somewhere super like a room like this i wouldn't
like my odds as much but like a wide open space i'm 100% not going to get as tired as you
it would be very hard for you to just grab a hold of me i've been defending that for the last 12 years
not letting people grab a hold of me but no one's tried as strong as you um but even if you did
just grab a hold of me there's you know there's other issues you got to worry about don't let me
fucking grab your neck at all don't let me take your back i i could probably i honestly i got
a couple little takedowns that I'd probably
be able to get to your back and choke you.
That's how I would have to
have to guess.
The streets are different though.
You get his back and get slammy on the concrete.
That's true.
That is true.
You jump backward and slammy.
I'm not in a good position unless I don't know.
That's a good point.
I wouldn't want to test it.
I wouldn't want to fucking do it.
I wouldn't want to do it either.
I like you a lot.
It would be scary.
I would be scared.
I'd be like,
but that would also probably make me
more dangerous being like if it's,
If it's actually life or death,
yeah.
You know,
I feel like I have,
I'd like to think I have the skills
to be able to kill you.
Yeah.
But,
but I would also,
and you have a daughter,
but I would also want to find out.
Yeah,
and I got something to live for.
I'm like,
I got a fucking family.
I got a feed,
but,
um,
yeah,
I wouldn't like to find out.
You versus Tim would be interesting.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Tim's obviously way bigger than me.
How much you?
It's still smaller than you.
A 200.
Yeah.
You're very skilled,
though.
Yeah.
Tim can,
he can,
he can,
He can box.
He can, you know.
For Bradley, it'd have to just be like, he's so strong and explosive power.
People think you're like some clunky bodybuilder.
Yeah, I noticed that.
Seeing you race 6-9, I was like, that motherfucker can move, too.
But I did see you swing that baseball bat.
You ain't got the hips.
Okay.
It was a little fanny.
Wait a say.
It was a little feller.
That's funny.
You weren't warmed up, though.
No, I wasn't warmed up.
I mean, baseball is not my thing, man.
No, yeah.
It's a different.
I literally grew up fucking swinging that bat.
But, yeah, I think people underestimate, like, how strong you really are because they...
But athletic, too.
And athletic, yeah.
It's a fucking dangerous combination.
I would rely on you, like, try to get in your heart rate up and...
Yeah.
You'd have to just defend yourself for a while, wait until he starts to spike, makes a mistake, and then...
Try to stomp his knee, maybe, kick him in the gut, a little bit run, though.
Yeah, but if you grab a hold, I mean, it's not, I don't like, I would not want to be there for sure.
He's going to slam you.
Yeah, because you could definitely pick me up.
I'd have to get to his legs, start tearing up his knees.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Fuck, try to take your ankles out.
You heard what?
When Brandon was talking about Demetrius Johnson, you being on, I think did he say,
even if you get on top of him, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know how Demetrius is, he did see his off his back on there really.
He's competing in the Gie, Master World's Black Belt,
but didn't he say he said, see you soon?
He tweeted that.
So I'm like that, yeah.
Well, I was talking about doing a podcast with him.
Oh.
I don't know.
I think Brandon just offered up, like, fucking fight him.
but it's like I don't he's probably you'd meet him like this is one of the nicest guys
ever for sure I'm sure I mean all these guys like I don't think any of these guys are just
asshole it's for the most far there's some fucking dipshits out there who um I guess probably
Sean Strickland who knows how he'd act yeah John Strickland that guy I see clips of him he don't
he don't he does not give a fuck he's funny he does not give a fuck he's funny God there's
there's fighting because he's meant to be a fight you hear him on Rogan he's like I just
want to kill someone I just know it would feel good
He said that like five times.
And Rogan would, like, try to go away from the topic.
And then he'd be like, well, I was walking down the street with my girlfriend.
I just said, what if I just like, what if I did kill someone?
They kept bringing it up.
I'm like, holy shit.
He seems crazy.
He's a funniest time.
But he also talked about his past and his childhood.
And it's like, okay, that makes sense.
He's retarded.
Anyone else?
I guess not really.
Like, do you like, let's talk about Al Jermaine.
Do you really like not like that guy or is it just fight beef?
he has what I want he's the champ I want to be the champ I think I've you know he seems like
just he seems like if he trained here and we were teammates we'd be buddies you know what I mean
doesn't seem like he's like a douchebag by any means yeah so yeah there I'm also not
getting paper viewpoints so oh you're if I was I'd be like fuck no shit no yeah I mean I'm
kidding but yeah he thinks he's a I think he's a he's a wait are you not getting paper viewpoints
No, no, as a champ in UFC, it's very, very, very, very few people have gotten UFC pay-per-view money from not being champs.
I think Connors, Jorge, might have been an exception.
But, yeah, you don't get it unless you're defending your belt.
So he gets paper view.
He is, yes.
That's why he wants this fight so bad.
He knows this is a big-ass fight.
This is a huge fight.
This is his biggest, this is the biggest paycheck.
Dang, he's going to get a bag.
He's getting a bag.
So regardless of how he's beat up he is, he's going to show up.
Yeah, he's going to show up.
You know what I find about that so interesting, like the same reason why, like, you get so much kind of like, obviously you get tons of love, right?
But you get you get some hate because people like, does he deserve to have these opportunities?
You're also like in this position, that guy knows just as much as we'll know, knowing just views and like your popularity.
They're like, you're offering up a massive bag to be just to be in a fight with him in relationship to you.
Not that he's not a great fight or not that he doesn't deserve that chance.
But what do you say to the people that are like, yo, like, why are you having this chance?
and because people will kind of say like oh because he's friends with dana and all this kind of
shit i read all that yeah no i see it a little bit i really don't see it too much but i know it's
there um i mean i beat peter yon who's the number one guy in the world and uh they said whoever
whoever wins that fight gets a title shot i think it's pretty fucking simple i about i beat
the number one guy in the world and now i fight the champ yeah you know so i i mark it down
is that it's simple it is it is what it is ufc's a business they're they're not going to put
they want to make the most money they possibly can every fight who who versus al germain
sterling is going to make them the most money yeah me oh and i just beat the number one guy
who was the number one guy in the world that makes sense so it's it's pretty fucking simple
yeah yeah yeah so if you win this who do you think's your contender um there's a couple
options there uh you know cheetos's fighting on that card he's fighting pedro munoz and uh that could
be a possibility, even though he did just get absolutely wrecked by Corey Sandhagen.
Corey's fighting Rob Font this weekend.
That's a big fight.
Those are probably the two biggest fights right now.
I don't know.
I'll probably try to pick the worst guy that I...
I'll probably try to, yeah, pick the worst guy that I can find and say...
Whoever I have the best chance of knocking out is who I want to fight.
People are like, that's so stupid.
I'm like, really?
Fucking...
You're telling me, huh?
I love all.
fucking honest you are
bro that's hilarious
but they're all
I say it and it's kind of funny
but realistically
they're all fucking killers
dude everybody in the top 10
is a fucking dog
so yeah
it's whoever I match up best against
it's pretty fucking simple to me
do I have the opportunity to pick
we'll see you I mean it's not like
I'm not fucking Sean White
yeah you're not making those picks
I get snowboard though
wait did he skate or snowboard
snowboard okay you mailed that actually
but uh yeah he
I mean UFC's gonna do with the fucking what they want
Well, they say, hey, who do you want to fight?
Possibly.
So we'll see him.
Yeah.
But do you feel like whoever it is, you fight no matter what?
Whoever it is.
Whoever they pick you're like, you're down for it.
You want that fight.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I'm not going to say, no, and then not fight.
If they say, hey, this is who you're fighting.
And it's someone I don't want to fight.
I say, hey, are you sure?
And they say, yeah.
And I'll say, all right.
But yeah, I mean, there's a massive card.
Well, it will be a massive card if I'm on it.
There's always a card in December in Vegas.
I fucking win.
win-lose or draw i want to be on that card i want to keep fighting i want to stay active so
ideally i go to fend my belt in december in los vegas oh man and party at resorts world at
zook and fucking have a hell of a time that'd be so much fun oh god yeah so if you lose this
fight where what's your what's your path then december fight still fight whoever's fight
whoever's whoever they offer me and and yeah i want to fight in december regardless
Ideally, it's so hard to say
Obviously, I fucking broke my foot one fight
I've fractured my thumb one fight
So there's time there's
I want to get out of this fight not injured
So I can fight again
I fuck, that's what I love to do
I love fighting, love performing
And that's the plan
So December's the plan regardless
Win or lose
Yeah, keep fighting
Yeah
I love it man
What about your personal life
How's everything there
Is everything anything different
Anything changed
You're still doing the open relationship thing
Or?
En camp at the I don't really
Fuck chicks
unfortunately it's just not on my radar as much i get horned up still want strange and shit but i just i
avoid that and just you know that always comes with complications inside the relationship so i
completely avoid that in the camp so like i said it's been a long camp it's been a long time
it's got some strange uh when do you do you think you're gonna find a girl where it's like okay
this is the last plus i'm i'm feeling for the rest of my time on the planet yeah i am for sure
that's what i want man yeah like i'm i'm 34 i'm getting to a point where like i just want a family
you know like I have everything else and I keep going keep going forward keep growing but
like I'm not interested in like nonsense anymore you can find that in LA how how would you
be able to find it that's a complicated part right like there's places like I believe that I found
it in in certain cases and then it's like you know my fears of like man well what if this fucking
backfires on me that kind of shit will come up because I've been around for so long and I've
seen so much they're like or steiny fucks your girl or oh that would never happen I saw
I saw that dumb ass clip.
I saw the whole pod.
His plan was like, yeah, well, I'll fuck her.
And then, like, she'll remember how good she had it with you and stay with you.
It's like, what the fucker are you talking about, dude?
I love that.
Yeah, fucker's funny, bro.
Yeah, he's funny.
He's funny.
So, yeah, I mean, like, that's definitely the goal, man, is to settle down for sure.
Because, like, I'm just, I'm done with all that shit.
Trying to find a good mom, baby mama.
Yeah.
That's important, dude.
Baby mama.
Dude, just having just a girl that you can trust who truly loves you, it's like, it has her back.
Feel lucky.
I feel like, I just.
I feel like L.A.
I've only been there a few times
so I don't have like a perfect perception of it,
but I feel like L.A.
would be hard to find that fucking...
Especially in his job.
Oh, my God.
All those chicks.
I couldn't do it.
I would have to fucking...
I don't think I could do it, gee.
Yeah.
Maybe you should try to get your testosterone low as possible.
Yeah, that's tough.
Just bust like six nuts before you leave the door.
Just looking at girls.
Get it so low, but I just don't even want to do it.
No, it's like, I'm past that.
Like mentally, because I've done it all, man.
I've been through all that.
Yeah, but you, so you get it with a girl.
for six months and you're fucking good and then you start craving that extra strange
you can that's the issue you can stay with the one girl like it's no issue for a little while
do you think you'll be able to block that though yes because because i'll tell you man it's like
it's like it's like it's like it's like you know you have to do it like i'm at a point in my life
for like i'd rather have the peace of mind knowing that like i got someone solid than like
i just have some extra push i really at that point in my life even if she just like
pisses you off one day and like won't suck you up but then there's this 10 who won't suck
you up or something and then there's this 10 at your gym that's just like I'll suck you
no no no no dude now I've done I've been there bro I've made those mistakes like I've
already made those mistakes that I know it's like okay I don't want to continue to make
these same mistakes because it's caused so much more turmoil better than me trying to like
fix it or fucking make it better man yeah but a little suck up that's just society's in your
head saying we want you to be this guy you got to fight that feeling why do they
Why is it that way?
Religion.
That's just how it, I mean, it's becomes under religion.
Hollywood movies.
Monogamy is just like what they've pushed on us since we were kids.
So anything you think different is fucked up.
And no one else really lives that lifestyle.
So it's fucked up.
I don't know.
It's, it's complicated though.
It's fucking complicated.
Well, remember I asked you the question about like, would you let another, like,
if you believe that, would you let another guy be with your girl?
You said no, though.
Yeah, no, that didn't happen.
Yeah, no.
So like, so.
I can fuck me.
I'm a king.
I pay.
for everything I treat Danny like a queen if I get a little push on the side what does
that have it to do with anything I got testosterone running through my veins this
that's fucking simple I I wouldn't I wouldn't say that if if I was in the opposite
position if I wasn't paying for everything if I wasn't you know if I wasn't
successful in any sort of way and I was just like fucking maybe an average Joe I
probably wouldn't I probably wouldn't be fair but I feel
like I'm fucking King Kong.
Then you'd have to hide it.
I'm fucking King Kong, baby.
Because of what you have to offer.
I feel like, I mean, Andrew Tate explains it well.
It's status.
Yeah.
Status.
So you know, I got status.
So I can fucking, but I don't know.
It's like, like I said, in camp, it's not, that's not a thing.
After camp, it's, you know, Danny's never fine with it.
I mean, she has been.
She's gone through phases.
Then we have a baby and their hormones change.
And then it's like this and that.
But I've been, I'm a crazy motherfucker, dude.
I am on a leash.
I put myself on a leash.
I have to live a very disciplined lifestyle.
I could for sure do some fucking bumps and go off the rails easily.
Like if I didn't have discipline, I would be a fucking, oh, dude, I would be a fucking crazy.
I'd be Connor.
For sure, I'd be hitting booger sugar on my fucking yacht and blow all my money.
But I do live a very disciplined life.
And if I want to get a little bit of pussy sometimes, what the fuck?
I'm not judging.
I'm not judging.
I understand it.
I understand it.
It makes me a better man.
Damn.
after the push the side push you're like don't you think a little bit sometimes you get some strange you get out of your system you're like it almost makes you love your main partner like more yeah just manipulate them you yeah I'm kidding I'm kidding I fucking treat Danny good as fuck I treat her like a queen I would she would never you know I treat her good I give her a fucking very very very very good life she she she does you know she's she's she passionate about her her work her hair and she works twice a week she doesn't have to work at all but she choose
to work twice a week she she's set she's good like let's see if your relationship's not good
your sex isn't good like then there's no way that's gonna ever work yeah that's such an
important piece to it's like I can't not be fucking Danny ever and then be like I want some strange
and her having the security that you want to be with her forever yeah yeah she I mean I got to
maybe giving her some good deasy wheezy to be able to get some on the side for sure you can't
you get a relationship has to be 100% good can't be any can't be any questioning can't be
any fighting it's got to be good to be able to do that and like i said i haven't got no strange
in a long time but i've been in camp so hopefully after this fight i'm like hey boo
you know what time it is i mean i'm fucking blonde with some big natural titties you like a blonde
i like i go through phases do you really oh fuck yeah i'd be craving some strange different
strange all the time little blonde maybe a black chick i went out a black chick ever
never never a fucking but what's the other option though what do most other guys do
Cheat and lie.
They just cheat.
If we're being honest, that's the truth.
Yeah, most people just lie about it.
I'm going to get so much shit for sitting here saying this,
but every, like most of the guys listening to this
that think it's fucked up, most of them probably cheat on their girls.
Let your girl look through your phone.
And yeah, exactly.
If you guys are sitting there listening to this with your girl right now,
judging me, let your girl grab your phone right now and look through every message.
You just ended a lot of relationships.
I know.
But it's for real.
I get judged for it.
And it's not even like.
do judge i don't get i don't get i'm not fucking a chick every week every month there's
half a i can go half a year without getting strange i would not saying i don't want it more
but it's not like i'm fucking chicks all the time yeah i mean you do make a really good point
like most people would just they just lie about it they just do dirt like and they're not
transparent about it they're not honest about it they're just doing shit anyways and just like
hiding it but then there's then there's the other thing it's like okay do you want to be can you
be a higher can you be your higher self and avoid that not do that yeah i think but i don't
I can't I can I definitely I'm there one day I can get there I'm there I'm there
a 33 yeah 30 maybe you just need one more year I'm 34 well I don't I don't with my girl for
13 years and she's like the perfect girl like he gets more strange than I do it's like she
really is we have a good life yes I do pay for everything and take care of her well but I want to
be with her forever like she's my girl and she knows that yeah it's super important I still
think it's I think well you get a girl I'm gonna hit you up in six months after you get a girl
say every time i've gotten strange like there hasn't been once where it's even crossed my mind
i'd rather be with that girl in maria never even once in my life he's good at just fucking
hitting it not even knowing their name or their weight he'll hit a two 30 a dip 230 no 30 30
we had a bet the other day i didn't him him and our buddy sono had a bet the other day that uh
it was with the i think gaiti and one of the fights and his was he has to hook up a chick over
like 2 10 or something he won the bet but he was like oh yeah all right that wasn't even a
fucking boss for you you were pumped about that yeah fuck dude i get it i mean yeah i i just for me
i just have to let it go i'm just at a point where i got to let it go man it's gonna be tough
for you too because just your your status girls you're around you travel and it's like this
whole thing for maybe a normal dude who just works a normal job maybe it wouldn't be as hard
but for someone like you bro yeah it's gonna be hard but then
it's like you can't get a girl you can't get a girl and have this kind of relationship right off the rip
you got to gain some sort of trust yeah yeah for create that create that safety so okay
next topic though on this who do you think wins obviously when they see this pot it's going to be on
tuesday will be after the fact who do you think wins this weekend nate dias because we're we're filming
this one this little the fights tomorrow yeah Nate dyes and jake i am fucking i want to see how this
ages for this fight i am so excited for this fight it's like being just being in the ufc being an m may
fighter and then it's an idea he's a fucking legend so you've almost feel like kind of guilty
like i i do like jake i've met him a few times i would say we're considered buddies and i think
his career has been super inspiring honestly like it's he just he was going down a path and found
boxing and it's fucking it's a cool story and uh you know i i relate to him on a lot of level so i
do like jake and and i think fuck he definitely he looks in shape i just before this i watched the way
Jake looks in the best shape he's ever looked.
Nate doesn't look bad.
He looks pretty good, but he's never, like, super shredded.
I think he's looked more shredded against other guys,
but that was at 155.
That's when he cuts him weight.
He's fighting a 185.
He's fighting in a weight class.
He waded in with his jeans on in shoes.
Like, dude, and...
Wait, what?
And Jake Ball, like...
He probably weighs 185 during the fight.
He has this whole new team, Sugar Shane Mosley.
He's been in the game.
Nate hasn't been in the boxing...
Like, he's been in the boxing game, obviously.
But part-time, maybe I'm boxing three times a week or twice a week.
Jake Paul's doing it every day.
If I had to bet money right now, it would be Jake Paul decision.
You'd think a decision.
Yeah.
What round?
Well, it's 10 rounds.
Sorry, 10 rounds.
Just at the end of it.
Yeah.
It is 10 rounds.
Nate said he wanted 10 rounds.
It was scheduled for 8.
Jake did agree to those terms.
That shows fucking some serious confidence.
And Jake knows, like, if the fight goes longer, it probably leans towards Nate.
But he must be confident in some serious good shape.
but he looks the most jacks he's ever looked he he's good at finding that right hand but what i but okay
besides like obviously we're talking about the fighting stuff but i'm curious because like you as a fighter
you're basing who you think could win just off of how in shape they look because that seems like
the first thing you said was like this guy looks in better shape which i find so i was thinking he looks
in better shape than he's looked in previous fights as far as that's how serious he's taking it you
don't look like that without training fucking hard especially his like he's not a shredded like his brother logan
has different genes like he's shredded jake what didn't have those kind of like he looks like
he's in fucking good ass shape he's kind of ripped for yeah he looks like he's in really
fucking good shape and he probably learned a lot losing to tommy like that was probably one of the
best things for his career is losing to tommy it wasn't a bad loss but it was a loss that
probably stung so he probably got back to the drawing board and uh you know learned a lot and
and he does find that right hand he landed that right hand a lot on tommy Tommy ate it he
he kind of rolled with it um and Tommy's a young buck
Nate's taking a lot of damage
He's never been knocked out
He's never been dropped
I don't think maybe once
But that added that adds up
And 39 38 and he's gonna be fighting someone
200 pounds too
Jake's a big boy
Yeah Jake's big
So this is interesting though
Because like after this fight
Whoever wins this fight
Seems like they have a shot at potentially
Fighting Connor
Like what they're talking about Nate
Fighting Connor as in the trilogy
And then I think Connor made a tweet
So like regardless he wants to fight Nate
Of this outcome
But like it seems like
Jake would have an opportunity if he kept trolling to actually get in the ring with Connor
I don't think Connor ever goes at Connor's Connor's not a big he's big but he's not a big guy
like he's you know what I mean I mean yeah he's not he's not super tall but he is pretty thick
but on the full send podcast uh Nate Diaz said if he beats me I'm going to try to whoop his ass
again so but he might do that MMA thing yeah Jake seemed very serious about fighting him in MMA
he said he'll choke him he said 10 mil challenge he said 10 mil to
It probably be in the PFL.
Jake's signed with the PFL, obviously.
That's fucking interesting.
I'm excited.
I like watching that shit.
Jake, win or lose will have a mean, lose.
Let's say lose is what does he do next?
Yeah, I was talking to Schaub about this.
Do you think, I want your opinion on this,
do you think Jake will continue fighting if he loses this?
Yeah, I think he will.
I mean, I think he's kind of adopted boxing as a lifestyle,
Maybe not. I could be completely wrong, but once you get, you get a crazy kid like he is, he seems to be, and then he's got a disciplined routine.
I think he will. He falls in love with that discipline routine. Without that discipline routine, it's like, what the fuck do I do?
Yeah. I mean, there's still big fights. He's still a massive character. Maybe fight guys that are not pro boxers. Go back to fucking fight and other guys and make have fun doing that. Jake versus KSI, regardless, is a big fight.
Win or lose. There's big fights out there. He'll continue to make big fights. I was talking about the biggest fight I think he'd ever make.
this is probably their plan just based on me looking at from the outside is Logan and Jake
Logan versus Jake the biggest fight they could ever make yeah I mean that would be massive I
don't think that'll I don't think they'll ever do that I couldn't I wouldn't ever want to fight a
teammate that I kind of grew up training with and stuff I wouldn't want to do that there's no way
I would fight my brother even if he was skilled like there's just no fucking way you'd want to
hurt there's no chance in my opinion you don't think they would though because I feel like
they're so competitive with each other I think if they did I want to say it would be like
Hey, don't throw full power.
Let's go have a war.
Don't clinch down on your knuckles.
Make like an exhibition match.
Yeah, but I mean.
I don't know because I think they're so competitive.
One will come in and be like, yeah, we'll do this.
And then he'll catch one and be like, wait a sec.
What the fuck?
You know how just like friends end up fighting.
Yeah.
And it always gets too serious.
Because like, did you see the press?
I think they had them sit down and they were saying how Logan was trying to take this fight from Jake.
Yeah.
And he was like, yeah, I'm like, I'm used to that.
Classic Logan.
Yeah.
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Eat right.
Stop playing.
Hey, I think in that position, whoever gets the fight, fucking, you, good job.
You fucking got it over me, you cock sucker.
Yeah, well, because that's such a huge fight.
Like Nate Diaz, man, just such a legend in the fucking MMA community.
Dude, seeing him get slept, there would be part of me that would be like, oh.
But like I said, I like Jake.
It's hard not to love Nate.
It's hard not to fucking love me, dude.
He's so cool, man.
Such a fun time when I interviewed him.
So, okay, then we got also another fight coming up, obviously, KSI and Fury.
How do you think that's going to go?
This is obviously boxing.
Yeah, yeah.
Tommy can box.
He's a good boxer.
The only time I really watched him fight was when he fought Jake.
He's good at Jab, and he understands boxing.
He really, really does.
KSI is just, he's athletic, and he hits hard, and he's fast.
Like, he's just an athletic, and he's kind of been boxing a little bit.
tell he when he has a fight going he boxes a lot but it's not been his lifestyle i don't know
if i had a guess i'd say tom he probably probably picks him apart tommy could probably finish
finish ks i think so too i mean he beats him in every other stat too i was looking at the stats
like he's like taller younger yeah heavier all this shit but i mean i don't i don't not too
familiar with ks i they're just fucking hearing his name a bunch um but he because he's what
in the uk yeah he's like the biggest uk YouTuber i think ever yeah and they have their old side man
channel.
Yeah, massive.
He's huge.
They're fucking killing it.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
That's a fight.
Like, if there's nothing going on, it's Saturday night and it's during, you
know, it's, is it in the UK?
Yeah, it's in Manchester.
See if it's like a random fucking, I might watch it.
It's not like a name.
Logan Dilden.
Oh, if Logan's on there.
Logan Dildo is on there.
I'm 100% watching that.
That's a fight that gets me excited for sure.
Yeah.
Damn, bro.
I just, I just wonder.
Like, I wonder when they're going to, the influencers are going to start moving towards
MMA.
No.
There's too much different shit you got to do in MMA.
Like, if one guy wrestled in high school and the other guy's never wrestled his life, it's like,
all right, that guy, the guy that wrestled is going to fucking take him down.
And it's just, just so many areas to develop.
Boxing, it's like, okay.
Boxing is easy to walk.
But, but like we, like, if you talked about influencers doing this boxing shit and
Jake Paul taking this series, like, if you were years ago saying this, you would have been
the same, the same shit.
Like, no, that's not going to happen.
And like, look at this shit.
He's about the fucking boxing idea.
Like if Logan fought KSI and MMA,
Logan would fucking kill him.
Yeah.
I don't think KSI wrestle,
but I don't think they wrestle over there.
Yeah, I mean,
in a boxing fight they fought and whatever was close,
but in an MMA fight, Logan, would be able to,
he's a good wrestler.
You saw him fucking grapple with Paulo Costa.
You get a fucking grapple.
And you get fatigued in boxing like you do.
You get fucking tired.
But MMA is a whole different story,
how fatigued you fucking get, dude.
And I think a lot of those influencers would feel that
and be like fuck
they'd roll
with a brown belt
or a purple belt
or a black belt
and jujitsu
and Jesus Christ
you know
I've been there
and you can hit Mitz
and like train for that
and it's kind of like fun
it looks good
you're hitting Mitch
you're running
you're hitting the bag
MMA is just a whole
another fucking story
you got too much shit
I think it's gonna go there though
be sick
I think that's the next iteration of it
yeah
yeah I think
I mean you could be right
for sure
yeah I'd watch
if they're characters
for sure I mean
who knows Jake could start that
Jake versus
fucking Nate and MMA
that's I think that's
the start of it.
That would be fucking, that would be sick.
I wish that was happening tomorrow.
Well, yeah, that would win that fight out of those two.
Nate would probably joke him.
Yeah, for sure.
Nate would joke him.
If Jake beat Nate, that would be fucking crazy.
Yeah.
Because there's just so many different things.
There's on the fence.
So why would he just not say, fuck it, take the fight?
Why would he not take that fight when he calls him out?
Oh, Nate.
Yeah.
Nate, yeah.
Unless Nate thinks he's going to go there and beat his ass in boxing.
He's like, there's no point.
Nate was acting like he's like that's fucking it's like a he was acting like that'd be
embarrassing if I fought this I see it almost feels like Nate does not like want to promote
the shit at all he just don't give a fuck like he's like it's like it's almost like a joke
yeah like it's kind of corny but it could be who knows that could be like he's kind of nervous
like fuck I don't want the more you can sense he's he's he can tell Jake can box he can tell
he's a fucking boxer yeah he's talked about it I mean even talked to him off off camera and he's
like he knows a kid's taking it serious he knows it's not like a fucking game yeah fight you
Yeah. Taking a serious for sure. I'm excited for it regardless. I'm hyped. Super fucking excited. So when are you going to come back out to L.A.? After this fight, I'd like to get out there. I got, I've been telling Bobby Lee I'm going to hop on his podcast for fucking so long. But I haven't been back to L.A. for a long time. So after this fight, I'd like to go out there for sure. I got some shit I could do out there. Come over. You still in the same spot, right? Same place. Yeah. So probably after this fight, for sure.
uh what is it august
i'd probably be able to
fuck around for a month
and then i if i want to fight in december get back into camp
like shortly after
would you roll around do some rolling with me
i'm not saying fight me i'm just saying like me roll around
with you a little bit
yeah not not serious you know i know i know i know
he's just a big fucker i just you know that's like me saying
do i want to go snowboard and hit some jumps like risk some shit
but you wouldn't slam you and no no i wouldn't go hard
i would just want to learn
you yeah yeah
I would want to see you and Tim go pretty hard.
I'll fucking, I'll do it.
No, that would be sweet.
Yeah, we'll definitely want to come out there.
We could hit some bench pressing shit.
Yeah, some bench.
Introduce me some of them fucking mamacitas you'd be fucking posting with.
I actually wouldn't even want to go there.
I would be too, I'd bark at chicks.
I'd be too horny.
I'd have to jay off like three times before we head to the gym.
So I could just be normal.
Do you like fit chicks?
Not jacked.
Not jacked.
A good back.
Good back.
I'm not into super, super, super jacked.
But I'm also...
What's super, super jacked, though?
Like, you know?
Um, I guess...
Buck 50?
No, I mean, it depends on how tall you are.
I don't...
Like, big shoulders and muscles and abs.
Like, would I hit?
Yeah.
But...
I don't know.
It depends.
Like, sometimes I want a juicy girl.
Sometimes I want to, like, a skin chick.
I don't know.
I literally go through different phases.
This motherfucker.
I wish I had his brain.
What?
Wait, why?
What, bitch?
His standards are just so...
Bullshit.
Well, your standards are bad?
No, no, just a good range.
They're broad.
Just a good variety of chicks.
Yeah.
He's got a good...
He respects all women.
I do too, but, like,
he respects, like, in a different way.
Wait.
You could say that.
He would fuck some seriously...
No, I'm kidding.
But if it's 3 a.m.
You would, too.
You would, too.
No.
I...
It depends.
No, no.
Is that true?
He has funny standards.
Put it that way.
That's not true?
Come on.
I mean, what are we talking here?
No, he's actually been on good.
You got a good road.
Are you talking about like fours?
The thing is, is I haven't really seen him hook up with an ugly chick, but I also know he wouldn't tell me.
That's fair.
So it's like, if he.
That's accurate.
That's fair.
You just slide it in.
You'd be like, oh, that never happened.
Yeah, he's good at being like, oh, I was a dream.
That was a dream
You asked him about his dreams
Because he's not smoking
Or not doing
Vivid ass dreams
Not smoking weed
Is it any about the fight?
I haven't had one about the fight
Um
Some have been sexual
Most of them are sexual
Probably
Do you actually take inventory of like your dreams?
Like do you take like
I mean I just
Last two and a half weeks
Have just been so much more vivid
It's kind of like you just remember him
One time I had a vivid dream
Like Sono had a semi
parked outside and I went to go put it in park and started rolling down the hill and then the fucking it hit the electric wires and then it caused the fire in this neighborhood it was so fucking vivid it was woke up and I just remembered it like it actually happened I was like damn what if that was actually happening in another different universe like I was just seeing it for a little bit
you've been burning smoking much I stopped smoking completely yeah man edibles too yeah like I love I mean I love them like I love edibles I love smoking but I just do a little too much and I'm just bad anxiety
man yeah really yeah just not it's just it's for me like I don't know if it's just a mindset thing
overall like we're like maybe it's I'm worried about certain things and then like if I smoke it gets
worse or it's just like just like just in general like my body just sometimes if it's just I'm too
high dude the quality of your marijuana is such a real thing that people we talk about it
and whatever you go get some shitty weed just at any dispensary that doesn't say it's
organic outdoor grown quality marijuana you're smoking pesticide you're smoking shit that
just unhealthy weed so you take too much of that it's like yeah you're gonna get that fucking anxiety
you take some good quality puffs off some good quality weed with a quality vaporizer or something
and it's it's different yeah that was at i was with steve before i came here and he was saying the
same thing about the edibles he eats like super clean he's like just straight up different type of
high yeah so you i mean how long you've been smoking for since i moved down to arizona
probably 20 so eight years yeah so you you think you think that's for sure thing i think the
quality of the weed is 100. I mean, it's no different than the quality of food you eat.
You eat organic fucking meat or you eat McDonald's. You feel it. You feel different.
Yeah. I need to start taking better inventory of that because like maybe that's the reason why like I'll just be like, well, this is way too much.
And are you taking a bong rip or a joint or not? Just a little joint, but it's like sometimes got keef on it.
Some like wild brand. I don't know what the fuck it is. Yeah. Especially you get nice little king palm. They're just trying to get quantity at like so much out.
They don't matter. Don't give a fuck what they spray on it. So much. Yeah. Yeah. I.
I think that's the big deal.
We have a guy here that hooks us up with this fucking such quality organic shit that I just, I literally, if I had some shitty weed or no weed, I would pick no weed for sure.
There's no point.
I don't like smoking shitty weed.
I get that anxiety kind of head rush.
Like, I don't want to be high feeling from shitty weed.
Yeah.
So I think it's really real what you're saying that because I can definitely relate.
There's times when it's like, I feel this is perfect.
Yeah.
And then there's times when I'm like this is just way, just so uncomfortable.
I don't like it.
So I've just chosen not to do it recently.
Yeah, there's different.
strains too that'll make you feel different ways too but yeah i think i do believe the quality is
important just like anything you did energy drinks much yeah probably too much what kind well i'm sponsored
by the gym wheat um i like it but i think sometimes i just i'm consistently drinking too many energy
drinks dude too much caffeine water fucking yeah bro i had i had so i've been i do caffeine in the
morning do my morning workout and then in the afternoon i don't do caffeine i'll do like just some
some amino acids and some Vitargo or something like that,
but I had sparring Wednesday at 3 p.m.,
which is, I was like, God, I want a little boost.
I'm doing five fucking rounds with five fresh guys.
I had some green tea, a little, probably too much.
I felt that I was in bed at like 10 p.m.
and I could just feel the little bit of caffeine.
I'm very sensitive to drugs anyway.
And I'm, so I felt, I'm like, fuck.
Usually this time, I can pass out,
but I could feel that little bit of caffeine rushing through my veins.
Just a little bit, and it fucked with my sleep that night.
But caffeine is, people, yeah, drink 200 milligrams at 2 p.m.
That's insane.
I probably drank 75 milligrams around 2.
Jacob shotguns, monster smokes a siggy and goes asleep.
Damn, that's fire.
Editors, you know?
Editors are wild like that.
Yeah.
But I relate to that sensitivity in caffeine and drugs in general.
If I drink, I realize if I drink caffeine past like 5 o'clock, I'm literally not going to bed.
Caffeine is a half-life of eight hours.
So if you drink 100 milligrams of caffeine in eight hours, you'll,
still have like 50 milligrams of caffeine in your body.
So you're drinking, I mean, past five, I try not to really do it dependent on my day
past like noon, really.
Yeah, yeah, I don't do it.
But it's hard.
I mean, if you got a podcast and you got to go to the gym and you got to go train,
then you got to do a video and it's like fucking all this shit.
Yeah, it definitely gets difficult.
Yeah.
For sure.
But I think for most people listen, like definitely rule of thumb,
I would never drink it past 5 o'clock for sure.
You're going to fuck yourself.
And I think people in general just drink too much caffeine, like way too much caffeine.
Yeah.
And then they become dependent on it where it's like if they don't do it,
they're just completely in the shooter.
Well, then their chemicals are all fucked up.
And yeah,
I've been obsessed with sleep for a long time too.
So I'm like over.
That's why I want to talk to you about this like vivid dreaming stuff.
Have you done anything like any work in like that space of like, you know,
the vivid dreams and trying to keep inventory of your dreams and trying to see what they mean or you just say fuck it?
I've never looked too far into it.
Like, oh, what does this mean?
What does this mean?
Just because they're so fucking just random.
Like, or if I'm fucking horny as fuck thinking about.
a chick like alpha dream fuckinger that's always sweet i try to do that sometimes i go to sleep like
thinking i'm gonna go into this wow i'm kidding but that would be fire um but yeah i haven't really
thought about too deep like i know some people have done some serious stuff and like looked into it but
i've never really been too too on that so sleep is obviously we talked about this before but sleep is
one of the most important things that you track yeah sleep ora ring it's cool we have like an or they
they added a circle so you can add like tim has an or ring umron we we were in the little
little group and you can see everyone's sleep and recover and stuff it's pretty cool do you have you
have you noticed that really affects your actual performance when you see like the what is it HRV what
is it yeah it's it's called the readiness on ours um it's it's it's interesting because they
aura has a new algorithm so like what they were looking at like two years ago if i was constantly
getting like 90 sleep scores 90 sleep score 90 sleep score and then they add the new algorithm and
they're tracking deep sleep differently and you're like what the fuck i was getting three hours
deep sleep and now i'm only get an hour and a half it's just because the algorithm so you can't
look into it too much because it's not it's not perfect um but it's a good indicator but for me if
i'm like i didn't work out on days it says you should probably rest like then i would train
twice a week you've got to push through those days and you just got to know um all right it's
you know usually i can have a pretty good idea when i wake up how my sleep score and readiness is
going to be i've been tracking i've been with or doing orering for like five years it's fucking
lot of data I actually had a sleep scientist come to my house a couple days ago and uh we did like
a crazy study with with a bunch of shit all over my body and then they have uh sleep imagery
like a different ring like they said it's an oaring like just the best type of ring you could
monitor it but it's not for sale it's strictly for like science so i've been working with you did a
sleep study yeah i've been doing a very in-depth sleep study the last uh through this camp so
I'm curious to see what that, what that, they're going to have, like, a sleep protocol for me.
I don't know what that means or what it's going to look like, but it's cool to have, like, sleep scientists analyzing my sleep.
Do you, do you have other, what other, like, forms of, like, non-combat training stuff do you really emphasize?
It's funny.
I journal every single fight camp.
I do it outside of camp, too, but not as much, but in fight camp, it's funny.
I can go back and look at every single fight camp pretty much probably the last five, whatever years, and, like, look, because I have 17 days to the fight, 16 days.
And I can go read what I did every single day and what I weighed and stuff.
So journaling was a huge one.
You've been meditating much.
Yeah, my meditation in the mornings.
I fucking, that's always, that's like in and out of camp.
That's something I have to do.
I've been doing a lot of 20-minute meditations during the day too.
Usually they turn into naps, but they're in that weird phase to where it's like you don't know if you're sleeping or you're like floating.
I can feel my muscles like pulsing.
I feel like when I can feel that
I can feel my muscles
recovering like it's weird
but that that's fucking been a big part
of a camp too is 20 minute meditations
like in the middle of the days for recovery
just to like
that's kind of my caffeine
that's like I'm like fuck I have to train again later
I'm gonna hit this
fucking dunk in the cold and get after it
what do you like about the journaling
which is funny because Stein would always give me shit on the journaling
but what do you like about the journaling
just to keep track of things
something soothing about it
something just like writing it
down just fucking i don't know it's i don't know reading reading it back is really really cool i like
that i've i've been enjoying that a lot um tracking everything i think it's important for fighters
and to do or just athletes anyway how you're feeling this far out you know what what were you
dealing with this camp and and stuff so that's nice but it's something soothing just fucking
writing just sitting there i don't write a lot sometimes i write a page sometimes i write half a page
sometimes i'll write in the morning and then i'll come back and write you know what time it
is and write again but it's something soothing about it i don't know
Like, it's like a different form of meditation almost.
Yeah, that's what I like it.
A different form of meditation.
It's, yeah.
Yeah.
Because you're going to push those thoughts out there that maybe, like, you have been
bouncing around, like, things that you're trying to figure out and you put them on paper,
it just makes it more clear for you to, like, decipher it.
Yeah.
You got to be careful, though.
Our boy got caught.
He smashed some biscuits and he wrote in his journal and his girl read it.
R-I-P.
Done for.
Yeah, R-I-Pee.
Is that a true story?
100%.
Fuck.
I thought you were trolling.
No, he wrote it.
Whoa.
He smashed at my house.
smashed some we had a crazy i had a party at my house and he smashed some chick and he wrote
it in his journal and she fucking read it that's funny that's one thing too with danny like she's
never read i mean as far as i know anything of she's never broken that line of privacy ever
yeah that's where i got like a huge fucking deal i was like you got a real one man yeah we've been
i mean i've been i've been with danny for fucking eight years or so i'd never fucking remember something
like that and uh yeah once it's that long and you you like hopefully she under like this is
forever type shit like i want to have more kids with you she's a good baby mom and stuff but
it's like yeah as long as she lets me be me shit's gonna be all right yeah i respect it i love
it well i think what else you guys have to do do do you have another training tim's got to teach
i got to go i just got a farm i just bought a farm i got to go to a farm yeah about a farm well i mean
there's a there's a it's 20 minutes from here there's a cow
16 chickens and uh four acres tortoise yeah it's fucking dope are you gonna build anything there
for training or just building a fucking 4,000 square foot warehouse right now 50 50 by 80 it's gonna be
fucking I'm gonna put a full-sized octagon in there you're gonna mark Zuckerberg you saw he put
an octagon in his house did he really wife got mad did you see that in his house not in his house
like it outside in his property she was like yo I just got this grass there's some shit nice
that's funny yeah I'm gonna put yeah it's gonna be pimped out um
But yeah, that's plan.
Hopefully I can get that up by, like, October because I want to, you know, be able
to spar and shit in there for the big cage, dude, people, it's like there's a small cage
in the UFC and then there's a big cage in the UFC.
The big cage is 44% bigger.
It's damn near twice as big.
What does this cage relate to?
Small cage.
So the bigger cage is 44% bigger than that.
Yeah, big cage is fucking big, dude.
Because that cage is bigger than I thought.
Yeah, it's a big cage, you know, so that's, you know, that's another thing that gives me
a lot of confidence going against Aljo is like he's lucky there's a cage in general like that's
taking someone down in the open is way fucking harder than pinning someone up against the fence
taking them down um so the big cage is definitely going to play a big role but yeah it's hard
to find places that have big cages because they are so massive the building that one out there
is going to be super beneficial so you plan do you plan to stay in arizona like for good or would
you move anywhere i this summer's been brutal i wouldn't mind we were thinking you know maybe
a prescott flagstaff sitona up there it gets way cooler
Maybe looking for a summer place
A summer
Summer house
Maybe even next summer
Depends on how shit goes
But it's tricky because it's like
Well fuck you have a fight
And it's like can you
I'm able to do that
But yeah
I think living in Arizona
For a long time for now
Especially with Tim
He has the gym here
He's got all his students for
I wouldn't move anywhere
Unless Tim did
So I don't think Tim's moving
Anytime soon
Damn that bond's real
Yeah I just
It would be weird
Fucking living somewhere
I guess we could play call a duty together sometimes
but yeah it would be weird
living somewhere without him
you've been playing cod much
no I don't play any video games
fell off I mean I'll play I'll play some like
I was playing Diablo because that just came out
the remake or number four came out
but they made it really similar to like the original ones
and I played that back in the day
this might be the first fight camp
I want to say ever
that I haven't been gaming
is it just because of the seriousness of it or
I just yeah I was like okay I need to
take these two hours of gaming that I'm doing
and rest and recover and take shit to the next level.
Because there is that stimulus for sure of like playing.
It's exhausting. I was streaming too.
I was fucking screaming like,
oh yeah. I get a kill. I'm hyped. I die. I'm pissed.
Like I was up and down and I'd go off and I'd be
oh, I'm exhausted. But I always managed it
in camp like I wouldn't game every day.
But this is the first camp I haven't streamed and I think
forever. Like your whole your whole career.
Yeah. As long as I mean,
Not, I haven't streamed my whole career, but I gamed my whole fucking life.
So, yeah, it's the first time I haven't game.
Damn, it's fucking serious.
I'm so excited for this fight, man.
I'm so excited for the fight.
August 19.
It's a big fight.
It's like, I talked to some people at the UFC.
They're doing, like, they're actually doing this documentary.
UFC's doing a documentary.
They haven't ever really done one.
Well, it's on the UFC with, like, Hunter and Dana.
And, like, I don't know how much I'm supposed to say about it,
but they have a couple, just a couple fighters.
But, yeah, they're filming this documentary, and it's going to be fucking sweet.
it's going to be some behind-the-scenes shit
um like with the ufc negotiations and in
meetings and stuff so i don't know what it's gonna be i'll be like
but the ufc is doing and they're saying like there's there's some big
fucking buzz about this fight like this is this feels like a massive fight
which it doesn't feel like that to me it literally feels like another fight i don't
feel any different than than any of my other fights i don't feel like oh shit this one's
huge but you changed up your gaming for it yeah yeah but
you mean just like in general the idea it's not yeah it's it literally just feels like
another fight it's two extra rounds that's the biggest difference it's five rounds and I'm
fighting the best guy in the division um but but mentally I'm not not overthinking it like oh
yeah this is it this is the one this is a big one like I'm fucking I'm so stoked for this fight
man fuck yeah so you're you're you're thinking knockout you got to get him fuck yeah 100%
I think I'll forever say that what's your prediction what do you want to do I want to knock this dude
out gold every fight that's always what I want to do that's always what I've wanted to do
my entire career even when I was boxing kickboxing like I would try to go in there
fucking knock someone out and I have knocked a lot of people out so this is so I'm so I'm so
the 19th Boston Massachusetts I'll be there I'm gonna make sure I'm gotta be there um obviously
you're gonna be there and then after the fight do you go out do we go out after the fight
well the thing is is it's the East Coast so by the time the
The fight rolls around.
It'll probably be like 11, 30, 12.
Like, it's going to be fucking August 20th by the time my goddamn fight.
But then after you got at least an hour of media.
But before that hour of media, you got to go, you know, cool off, maybe shower up, you know.
So I probably won't even get out of the arena until 2 a.m.
And Boston closes at 2 a.m.
They don't have anything open.
They don't have clubs after 2 a.m. or anything.
So I don't know.
I mean, depends on the fight goes.
You know, I fucking go out there to lose.
I probably ain't going to really want a party.
I go out there and knock them out.
Let's fucking find some hookers and some cocaine.
baby let's go on or it's almost like let that just sink in have that belt let it sink in
have a good meal and then just plan a real rager with the I like the coach I like no yeah I don't
think there's going to be I was kidding I was I don't think there's going to be much to do yeah
it's not like Vegas because Vegas is like oh yeah we'll find something to do
we're Miami bro no no I find uh depends depends well you know get on the jet head back home
and and like you said plan a real fucking party yo so uh Steve will do it send me a question this is a
question for uh this is a good question actually it's really interesting um this is for
tim talk talk asked him about post jerk mindset or is pre jerk that's a good question there
stephen good god like some days i mean you feel like a predator when you're just we're just
like when you're loaded you're nothing safe well yeah it's just brutal i mean you guys can relate
yeah you could do some dumb shit like
Dom, dumb shit.
See, that's where we're different.
Like, I'm so stoic.
But then you bust and you're like, wow, I can't believe I was even.
I have done something like that.
You have too, Brad.
I mean.
I have.
I have.
I'm not even going to pretend like I haven't had moments like that.
Every guy that's a straight male that's, well, even though gays probably do that go through that.
Same shit.
Same shit.
God, I can't believe I fucked him.
Someone's going to clip that.
God damn it, Steve.
It's funny.
Yeah, but so do you think it affects like, I mean, are you, you know, are you looking out for that?
Because I feel like based on what he was saying,
maybe you fuck some,
sounds like some dirty.
No,
some sex.
He's been on some good,
he's been on a good tear the last couple of years.
Like I said,
he wouldn't tell me though,
but I haven't seen him smash any hugs.
But if I say,
hey,
would you smash her?
And she's not cute.
He'd be like,
yeah,
probably,
but I wouldn't tell you.
So that's how I know.
You have too, Brad.
I have.
But this is but time ago.
Yeah,
yeah,
of course.
My shit's changed,
elevated.
Oh man
Do you think
Jerking like affects training
Oh fucking hell yeah
Yeah I think so
I think so you come in there
Sharp energy
You're fucking
You're feeling like a bowl
Compared to just feeling like a limp noodle
Oh god
You bust before hard practice
Bro
That's not a good idea
I've done that time too many
And it's not not worth it
But sometimes I still do it
Sometimes I still do it
I fuck do it
day this morning before I had to do a hard workout and I was like I knew I shouldn't of I'm like
it's like a different level of training you got to go even harder yeah well I had like a long
hour long threshold workout to where I was holding my heart rate at like 180 today for an hour
so it was like I was like I'm not it's not my I have pretty high heart rate so it wasn't like
it was a hard workout but I still I'm like I went in slipped it in and but one 80 for an hour
dude that's that's fucking intense I'm in good shape I'm in fucking really I mean I need to be
doing shit like that or this close to this fight but yeah it's uh fuck that's
intense as fuck i have a high heart rate yeah i have a high heart rate like it's i'm not for an hour i'm not
sprinting for an hour but still you've been seeing steve much hanging out at all well just recently i just
i was just in Vegas with him but prior that i haven't seen him much no missed that fucker dude and i wish
he was on youtube so bad really every time i see him i think the same thing i think i don't know
man i think good you know he's doing good i know he's doing good i just know it's like he definitely
has like where where could where should he put his energy work wise i know he's kind of dealing with
that struggling there because it's just like you know the other platforms are great and he's
able to post there like you know rumble and stuff like that but like the reach right to grow
is not necessarily the same that you would have on youtube we still get a mill views though and
shit on rumble which is impressive as fuck but it's like direct audience right that he's cultivated
yeah yeah versus like now if we talk about moving forward finding random people finding new people
like he's got everyone on rumble watching his shit yeah he's got to try to find out how to get people
to rumble yeah he's driven direct traffic so now it's like where could he get people to go see
his videos like organically like how is he reaching more people i know i was trying to retweet when he
post his shit when he post his videos just fucking because i know i feel bad for him too
yeah i think i don't know i feel like eventually i don't know i just i do believe that eventually
they'll come around maybe not let him like post again but at least let him show up in videos and
like be on podcast and stuff that would be fucking amazing yeah because he don't give a fuck
the higher ups on the higher ups in youtube are in l-a right yeah i mean i don't know i i i don't know
I think what it seemed like
is because like once he got kicked off
he was like pretty vocal about getting kicked off
and I think they didn't like that
you know but like I know he's like he's like
he's really cooled it down and like
hopefully like they'll let him come back because
like I said even just be in content
because I miss that like I go hang out with him we work out
and it's like I'm this awkward like
I can't really film you
but it's like you're my boy and we're here
and I always film everything so it's like
I'm still here regardless but it's like
it's a weird dynamic for sure
have you reached out to the top G at all
oh top G's free
You're free today, right?
Oh, yeah.
No, he's free.
Well, so that's so, yeah, I've been, I've been what's happening and asking him.
I want to do an interview with him, but I'm curious, like, you say free.
I think today.
He's not on house arrest.
Not on house arrest.
And he's not going back to jail.
And he's not going back to jail.
That's what Garrett, Texas today, right?
So, but he has to stay in Romania is what I, what I understand.
Okay.
But I, dude, I want to fly out there and interview him for sure.
Hell yeah.
See his pad.
Would be cool.
Yeah.
I just think it's, you know what's so funny about that whole, that whole, that whole,
Tate thing is like you have these like you know everyone on you know everyone on
you know everyone the side political whatever spectrum bullshit they're all like
they're all attacking and hating this guy like yeah saying whatever they can to like
make him look like oh he's this bad guy this person that they're painting this picture to be
and then it's interesting how like well if he's that guy then why is the case why is it falling
apart yeah you know what I'm saying because if it was that definitive of evidence to like
prove that these like really terrible things happen yeah then like why would he be
getting further away from being locked up and not going closer.
I think it's pretty clear.
I mean,
it's pretty clear that they don't have shit against him and he's,
you know,
they would have found something by now.
I just find it so interesting.
They're like,
you know,
there's a blog,
like whatever other channels that are really like anti-Tate,
anti this,
anti that.
And they're really,
they would make everyone that watches them believe that like this guy's
really this terrible human.
And like they would just,
they just push that narrative.
And then it's like,
I just find it funny when it's like the reverse starts to happen.
Because like if he was that terrible human,
that they would fucking lock his ass up and he'd be locked up.
So I just,
I really do find that interesting.
Like just in general,
if we're just talking about the internet,
there's just like,
I don't know if you guys notice it or not.
I talked with Steve a little bit about it.
I did a pod with him that obviously I can't post on YouTube,
but just the general,
like,
I'm not trying to get real political and shit here,
but like the world's in a really weird place
with just like media, news,
like pushing people here or there towards like political shit.
It's like, it's getting fucking weird, dude.
Yeah.
Obviously you're a fighter.
You're not fucking.
I listen to Rogan.
That's where I get all my fucking news from.
Do you think the Twitter is going to reach a whole new level than it was at?
You mean X?
X? Yeah.
Absolutely.
I do think Twitter slash X would call it.
I think it's going to be completely, I think he's focused on like he wants to make that like an everything app.
Like I think he's going to put like crypto stuff in there like where you could trade.
He's going to put like I think they're going to put long format, like more focus on long format con.
It looks like they're trying to do everything.
Yeah.
And I think he's the guy of all the guys who could do it.
You know?
Because like there's, they're so.
focus on even with this like monetization thing for creators like they're giving like all the
monetization of creators unless you pass like a hundred thousand dollars a month then they're taking
like 12% or something like that which is like nothing yeah compared to other platforms so like
they're really trying to be competitive damn so i think twitter the place like and then a couple that
with like not censoring what people are saying and like you know because i can't go on certain
platforms and say certain things and it's just like i know it's going to get demonetize or
restricted or whatever and uh you know twitter is like really anti that so they're
Setting themselves up to be a really, really massive player, I feel like in the social media space.
Especially with his brain behind it.
Who knows?
It could fucking.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's huge.
But it's just the world is such an interesting place now with all this like everyone is just like, I don't know.
They're like set up to attack each other.
Everyone's just set up to attack each other.
It's just getting fucking weird, man.
Weird time to be live.
Fuck, Brad.
I feel like we talk forever.
Yeah, we got to get going.
Yeah, sorry.
You're the man, bro.
Appreciate you guys.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
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