RAWTALK - Sky Bri On Quitting, Speaks On Her Relationship W/ Adin Ross, Jake Paul & Dealing With Hate

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

Join us with our special guest, Sky Bri as she dives deep into why she decided to quit the adult industry. Sky opens up about her previous relationship with Adin Ross, & how she continues to push through the online hate.Sponsors: Babbel Http://Babbel.com/rawtalk for up to 55% off your subscriptionSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

So, when you were in the bathroom, I was telling everybody how I'm on mushrooms right now. Are you really? Yeah. Like full-blown tripping or just microdosing? Complete microdose. Because he was tripping at first. He was like, you're on mushrooms right now? Because he couldn't do it because he'd be like social anxious.

But I'm on a small microdose. I just started doing that, like experimenting a little bit with microdosing. Like recently? Like? Super recently. Yeah, the past few weeks. Really? So had you done mushrooms prior?

I've done mushrooms to like trip. Yeah. Like hardcore, but I've never microdose. I don't feel the effects too too much. And if I do, I feel like happy, but it lasts like a few hours. You're talking about microdosing. Yeah. But you've experienced like actual dosing.

Yeah. Like four grams. I used to be super into tributty on acid. Oh, acid. Like a teenager. Acid and then shrooms all of it. Did you do anything else other than that? No.

I mean, like I've done like Molly a few times. Yeah, I've done it too. Yeah. I've done it too. What do you think you enjoy the most about mushrooms? Probably that it makes you happy and laugh and smile. Is that how you feel right now? I feel open, yeah.

Open? I feel like, you know, like I'm here and I don't have like reservations. That's the best way I would describe like microdosing for me. Like there are times when I've been on mushrooms where I feel extremely like way too much. Like you've never had experience. You're like, whoa, this is too much? A few months ago I went to Joshua Tree with friends and we tripped on mushrooms and it was a little too intense. at times was there was there a bunch of was like people it was a bunch of people yeah like I think

the problem was I was comfortable with some of the people and then the other half I didn't know whatsoever so I felt like I felt like paranoid that I was acting weird or like saying the wrong things but yeah very common super common mushrooms so I did no research at all zero research okay I literally um I think Jacob you he's a fan of your work thank you really um um Jacob had something to add, but so let's, let's get into it. So you, um, obviously people know they're clicking and they know what you do. They know like what you've done, whatever. Um, but my question to you is like, where, where did you start?

Like, how did your life really like get on to social media? And why did you start deciding to be a, like, be a part of the internet? Um, so I, I grew up super shy. Like I had really bad social anxiety. So I didn't have any friends or anything growing up. So I just spent all of my free time on the internet, like consuming YouTube content. But what was what was what was what was giving you the anxiety with these people? You didn't want to speak to them for certain reasons or what do you mean?

Like you haven't been socially awkward and feeling disconnected from people? I've always been like really insecure because of like just like my looks and you're insecure of your looks when you were younger. Interesting. Yeah. Were you like, what were you like a, like an ugly duckling and you like shot it or? No, no, I always looked like this, but I don't know. I've just always been like insecure. And I'm just shy.

I think I'm socially awkward a little bit. Oh, me too. I'm like, are you really? Yes. You have a podcast. You talk to people. That's the thing. I've always, and this is actually really interesting because there are people in my life who

see me on camera and see me off camera and be like, damn, like, not that I'm not the same, but like I am pretty much. standoffish in most cases and in a lot of situations I'm the person who probably say the least unless like I'm really well known to someone like well actually knowing someone so naturally I'm really actually introverted and when I'm in situations like I said unless I know everyone like kind of how you're talking about your Joshua Tree experience like I'm very like reserved and you would be like you know if you saw me on there you like high energy and then in person if I'm not known but

me when I'm filming I know that like I can't get on YouTube be like hey guys hope you guys are watching this video like they'd be like click you're boring and So I learned that through YouTube, like to be more exuberant. Right, yeah. Conversation like this has always been comfortable for me because before I got on the internet, like I was always kind of the same person that was very trying to understand like myself because there's so much shit that I've kind of like dealt with to try to work through. And I've always talked to other people to understand how they work through what they've gone through.

And that's why this. That's what I do too a lot of time. Like just as a human. So you have conversations with like friends. Is anyone in particular that like you have good? You don't have to say. their name if you don't feel comfortable. People I've talked to, Mike Maylock a lot.

Yeah, Mike's a good guy. Yeah, I've gone to him for a lot of advice. Solid guy. Me too. I'll call Mike. You've gone to him for advice? I call Mike. I mean, it's not always the best advice, but I'll call Mike and I'll tell him, hey, I'm dealing

with this. I'm going through that. But so you're 24 and you were insecure and then you would be like, I guess, introverted and you would like avoid people. So you'd be like all over looking at the internet. And you were like, I could do this. Which is weird. Is that what you said? No. So I never thought I could do it. I kind of, I consumed so much content because I was living through them. I was always like, I can't believe people are like able to talk this well and like have this many friends and stuff. But how I got into it was, I was working at Target for over three years. I worked in the beauty department. And I would always have one air pod in while I was working. And I would be listening to.

no jumper. I like really like hip hop media. Yeah. And I like just became a fan of that podcast. And then they announced that they were starting a Patreon series and having girls on that have only fans accounts just to sit them down and interview them. And I was like, holy shit. I love this podcast. It's kind of my dream to be involved with it. And I have like I obviously have like no relation to like hip hop media. So like this is my chance. like they're having only fans girls on. Yeah. So I had an only fans at the time.

It had like maybe 200 fans, just people that I went to high school with. So, and this was a few years after I had graduated high school. I had my, my OF, and I was super, super small. So, but I still was like, oh, my God. You started OF when? I started OF maybe three years ago when I was working at Target. And so you're working at Target, and what are you posting on OF at the time um just nudes i had maybe like two sex tapes out with um my ex at the time so you wait

so you're working at target you're like fuck it yeah i'm down to do this yeah there was no did you ever have a reservation in the beginning a little bit but posting nudes i was completely fine with like that like yeah okay i felt because i'm super confident in my body well so when did that change like because before you were really so i've always known i had a good body but just i was always insecure with like my face or like the way that I spoke okay um but yeah you made me lose my no yeah no we're talking so we're telling the story you're your you're your your your real question is you're working at target yes and you go get i'm gonna do this and you're completely comfortable with doing it yeah it was really small i only i was only making like maybe two thousand dollars a

month off of it it wasn't anything selling nudes yeah yeah and it was just like people from my hometown that were subscribed to me it was just basically like some extra pocket money so that I could like go out on the weekends or like maybe go to the mall and buy things that I wanted. Did you think at that time you were like like you just did not think that it was something that would matter or like did you were just like fuck that I don't care you just had no reservations? I didn't look at it as like that was going to be my career. It was kind of just like I work at Target that's my full time job and then OF is what I do just on the side. I had no idea that it was going to turn into a career. Yeah. And so now it's a full on career. Yeah.

and is it like is it something that like you still view the same way you did then like when you first started it kind of i like i like oaf a lot um i enjoy posting myself it's fun i like talking to fans but um i am stepping back from doing uh porn yeah so what what shifted what changed um over the past few months i've got I've become really unhappy and regretting certain decisions that I've made. Yeah. Um, yeah. Like regretting, just like making that kind of content or like, just, um, there's like,

there's so many different factors. The first one is my parents, my parents, it took a while for them to be proud of me. They're proud of me now that I'm 24 and I'm financially stable. Yeah. Um, but they, they, I don't think they like what I do. And that's like hard not being able to talk to them about like my career. Yeah. Do they know what you were doing before it kind of blew up?

Like when it was just pocket change? Mm-mm. No. My parents didn't know why I moved to LA. They thought I was just going to model. That's what I told them. But then my, I think my, uh, my whole family like, like, stocks my social media and stuff. And I think my aunt one day went on to my Twitter and saw like trailers of just straight on.

pornos and sent it to my mom and I remember getting a text for my mom she was like Skyler you lied to me you said you weren't getting into porn this is not so that was kind of awkward at first and my dad and his that whole side of the family disowned me for a while now it's all good like now they do say they're proud of me but it's just we don't really talk about the specifics of what I do yeah I see it makes sense um so what did it start out as it started as just you and um your boyfriend at the time just like shooting like home video type yeah yeah just like POV like easy stuff yeah and then and then you said you met you met adam i'm assuming and lena through like the no jumper that that patreon thing and is that what turned it into more um yes so they met me well i had met adam on the patreon and he

really liked me and he saw a lot of potential in me and was like Like I, me and my fiance have been talking about creating a management company. We would love to bring you on and sign you as the first girl. And that's what happened. I flew back home. And then I think two weeks later, they flew me back out. I shot a scene with them. It was a Target themed scene.

Like I, they were in the car and I came out. I still had like my target uniform and everything. I came out and I brought them their groceries and they like pretended like they were hitting on me. And I got in their car and we all went and then like filmed a. Right, right, right. Yeah. And then that, uh, that tape went like pretty viral because we posted like the beginning clip of them picking me up from Target onto TikTok and that went viral.

And then that was also just the first time that they had like signed someone. So it was like a big deal. Yeah. So like, so you've done it for how long now? It's been just over a year. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And when did you start to be?

be like, maybe this is not what I want to continue to do. I'd say a few months ago. Yeah. Could like and you say you're going to completely stop or are you going to do like you're going to transition to what you put behind the paywall? Um, I'm always going to do on like O.F. I enjoy doing solo content. That's super fun for me.

But just stepping away from working with other people I think is in my best interest right now at the point that I'm at. Yeah. Because because just mentally like what, what is it? Um, honestly, a lot of it is hate comments that I receive. Um, because I didn't have any friends growing up, I've always been so isolated. So then being thrown on the internet, workers in general, like they don't, they receive a lot of hate. Yeah, yeah. And so like just being bombarded, the bigger and bigger I get, the more hate I receive. And that's like, really gets to me and has been really getting to me the past few months. Um, and also, I, I think I've just become, sorry, I've become really desensitized to sex and relationships. Really? Like, as just, like, sex, like, pleasure or just, like, even wanting to do it?

I don't have sex in my free life, but, like, in my, like, actual day-to-day life or anything. Like, with normal people, no. And any sex that I have is on camera. And it's not that much. Like, people, it's weird because the internet thinks that I'm, like, crazy and I'm out, like, fucking everyone. But I really don't have sex that often at all. Yeah, unless you're, you're at this. performing.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I don't, that's the thing. I don't want it to be like that anymore. Because I think I lost track of like sex is special and I want to be able to experience that again. Yeah, the intimacy in it and not just like the performance of it. Yeah. Was it, was it anything in particular that really shifted that?

Honestly, a big thing is my, I broke up with my, my boyfriend to move to L.A. Yeah. There was nothing wrong with us. We were in like a happy relationship. I think I was like 21 though when I moved here and he was only like 20 and I didn't want to have to move us both out here and have to financially provide for the both of us. So I was kind of like, hey, like. But wasn't he in the videos? He was in the videos, but like he was no face.

Like didn't want to ever be like involved or known for this. Oh. And. But his dick was in it. His dick wasn't worth anything or what was going on here? He has a great dick. He has a great dick, but I also, I wanted to work with other people, too. Got it.

And he wasn't okay with that at first, but then he was kind of like, okay, I am okay with you working with other people, but I still just, I guess I wanted to be selfish and moved to L.A. I was 21, and I wanted to be able to, like, fuck whoever I wanted and not have, like, a boyfriend at home. So I moved to L.A., and then over the summer, I found. out that he got a girl pregnant and the baby was just born wow and that congratulations yeah congratulations i am happy for him yeah um and that kind of like hit me hard because i still loved him i just

i i guess in my head it was like i'm just going to go to la for a little bit do my thing and like my my my family and my boy my ex-boyfriend back home were going to be on pause like i was eventually going to be able to come back to them but I got just too carried away with the whole social media thing like I didn't know I was going to blow up this fast and hard and yeah that was that sucked yeah it's interesting that I'm I'm having moment not not in relation to yours to your story directly but I've had moments where like man I how not so how quickly I blew up but just having success in a space for such a long time or even just for a short time it does kind of affect just relationships in general and how you feel yourself because like being really candid and honest

like it's very easy to get caught up and like oh I'm getting followers and I'm getting likes and I'm having this sort of like reaction from people and people like are probably in my DMs people probably in your DMs and you feel like you're kind of I don't know surpassing people that have kind of been with you already so it's an interesting dynamic for sure and I think really common for a lot of people to experience that it's just it's one thing to like start to ground yourself So moving forward and you made this decision, is it, is it like because you want to do other things as well? Or is it because like, are you now thinking, do how long do I want to continue to do this because of what people are going to think about me in the future? Or is it like, because I know that's a common thing that people will ask people who have done sex work like, hey, do you don't worry about like your kids or do you worry about your future, like your future opportunities?

Have those things kind of shifted you to like want to change this? For sure. Not just like, you know, boyfriends. for sure it's it's it's a lot of different things it's i it's worrying about who will take me serious yeah is a big thing um my the quality of men like they're still like like amazing guys that have like i've been able to talk to and see and stuff but like the quality of men that are like into me has gone down because like they don't want to be seen with a girl that's like on the internet having sex so that's been hard um do you think they're wrong for that or does

that make sense to you no i don't think they're wrong at all i don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to be with someone that has done i think that's like that's completely understandable yeah so i don't blame anyone else but myself yeah i mean yeah that's i've had other conversations for sure that definitely went a different direction where it's like you should just accept it you know but i'm realistic like i'm not going to sit here and be like you should take me just as serious like I understand why it would put people off like I fully understand yeah so do you think now moving forward from it do you think that you know let's say the other types of either men or people that you want to involve you like you think they're they're going to I guess you're

going to have to find a balance with it because do you think they're still going to not accept you because of the past um I think it'll be hard yeah I have met some guys I'm just talking to someone now who's pretty understanding um Must be a good guy. Yeah, he's a really good guy. You got to be a good guy. That takes some, you know, some understanding. Yeah, yeah. But yeah.

You say who it is or no, you wouldn't say who it is. Would you say who it is or you wouldn't say who it? Oh, his name's Nick. Okay, Nick. Shout out Nick. That's okay. That's damn, big nice. That made me nervous.

Did that make you nervous for real? Yeah, now I'm sweating. Really? No, nothing to be nervous. You don't got to say it. It's just like, hey, that's dope. Nick sounds like a great guy. Yeah, it's not even like, even, like, we're not like dating or anything.

but just like him being there and like he's like a really just nice cool guy and him seeing me as like a actual human a lot of people they don't people that don't know me they see me as like sky be this crazy fucking sex robot demon on it online yeah and then my friends in real life people like nick they they always like talk to me they're like if i didn't know you i would have no clue you do Because I just like in my day life like I'm just I'm pretty normal like yeah I don't even like being called sky like no one in my real life calls me that they just call me sky layer yeah well that's the thing the internet like even it's work aside like just in general people see which is why you get these hate comments because everyone has a whole opinion and perception on what that is and what it should or shouldn't be and you know what I'm saying like opinion of women and opinion of men involved in it and even in the internet just in general which is like the thing I mean you'll learn as you continue through it is like everyone just has an opinion on everything period like even if you never did

any of that stuff there'd still be people who'd be like you're a stupid bitch and you're dumb and you talk dumb and you're ugly or the opposite oh i love you you're great even if you never did it like because i've never done it and i've experienced all the same thing probably not to the same sort of like maybe hateful i mean i actually know what i've experienced the most hateful shit but like i'm probably not getting like what if you done that got you a lot of hate so many i mean like have you gone through any controversies have you ever been canceled oh my god not canceled but i've been like because you can't get canceled that's the truth you yeah you have to cancel yourself yeah right but i have gone through so many moments where like people would lie about things people would try to make me look like a

bad guy so if they can make themselves look better i've gone through so many moments like that in this in the fitness industry on the internet in general and you just realize like if you stay true to who you are and who you've pretty much always been in like the the evolutionary version of yourself like as you grow and you stay true though to like kind of like where you've come from and if someone watch you for three years and your conversation it evolves because you're getting older but they'll also be like but this person has been consistent all the way throughout and they'll see the genuineness in it those true people are the people who really stick around and are like real fans in a sense that actually are getting value from you otherwise they wouldn't continue they're learning from you

they're growing with you like they're understanding that's all you really have to focus on. You can't focus on trying to get people to love you who are like pretty much just willing and ready to hate you just based on an opinion of you because they don't know you as a human. Even if they saw you as like a sex worker, they could never know you as a human unless they knew you in person as a human. So like their perception of you as a sex worker and the perception of you as a human is just so disconnected. So there's already this giant stigma around a sex worker that it's so easy to be like this chick's this, just just that. She's this. like all the derogatory terms but that doesn't it's not who you are it doesn't define you right

right and that's what i think that's why my head was getting so fucked up because i it started to it got to a point where even i couldn't separate myself from like sky bree like and and skylar like all i saw because i'm i'm obsessed with like my phone all i do is i i rewatch content of myself like all the time and so i i just in my head what are you looking for to see if you're like good or like just i all look up hashtag like hashtag skybri on ticot you want to see what people are saying what people saying yeah which my friends that's something that they all my friends really get mad at me for because i it's almost like i it's something i talk to my therapist about but i almost go looking for the hate it's self-defication because i want to see that it's there to like confirm

almost like the thoughts that are in my own head and that you're a bad person yeah almost yeah Yeah, which I don't, I don't think I am, but I just say it was, I don't know, I just, I don't regret doing porn and I had a fun time doing it while I was in it. I'm just at a point now where I, I just don't, I don't enjoy it anymore. It isn't what I want to be known as. I just want to make content that makes me happy, whether, like, I want to branch out. I want to do YouTube. I want to be able to like be comfortable on camera speaking because right now I'm only comfortable on camera fucking and I don't want it to be like that.

And yeah. No, I get it. Well, the thing that's so interesting in just life in general is like what you said about almost like self-reaffirming like your thoughts of yourself. The truth is here, you just got to continue to learn how to love yourself, right? Because the more and more you're able to love yourself or who you are and like I think maybe for you, it sounds like you got to. point where loving yourself now isn't doing that maybe then it was an expression of that because

you thought through some like guys that oh this is this is me you know getting some extra money and it's a version of like you know superficially loving myself the more you learn to love yourself as a human no matter what anyone says no matter what anyone does like it's not going to change you because if you're able to love yourself right then you could genuinely love someone else and and all this other stuff just becomes noise and it allows you to like see yourself for who you really are it sounds like while you were in it and you know that you said it even earlier before we started talking about this was like the one of the main reasons why you don't like it is like the hate and I'm telling you this right now you move forward as like whether a YouTuber or a Twitch person anything outside

of that the hate is going to linger it's going to follow it's going to follow and like I said even if you never did it it still would have been there not to the same degree like not the same comments but different comments so at the end of the day all you can really focus on now moving forward is like really loving yourself and and take all of the stuff that you've gone through as a lesson like that's how I look at it yeah yeah because that's why I say I don't regret it because I'm excited to be able to look back once I am stronger and I do love myself more to be grateful for the wisdom and the knowledge that I gained going through all of that so I don't yeah I do look forward to that yeah well it's one of the hardest things like genuinely loving yourself is one

the hardest things and learning how to do that and all those things that you've gone through like even the hate and like you it's interesting you going back and trying to like reaffirm that like you're this bad person like once you start to stop that you'll start to be able to like instead of putting the input in from someone else giving you that you'll be able to like retrain your brain to give yourself what it should have been giving you right right without the external stimulus to other bullshit to really retrain your mind to know that like you are a good human you are love right you you have to yeah no I mean this like you're a good therapist I feel like I'm getting a therapy session no I just I've been going through a lot of personal stuff and

growth in my life so like just having these conversations with me is like for me with you is also is also cathartic it's healing for me right because these are things that I think about all the time because I'm not just having this conversation as like an outside person looking at you like I'm also relating my life to it because there's so many things that I can look at that I know that I've been through that where I felt terrible about my decisions not to that degree not to that extent outward on the internet but in my personal life relationships things that I've done that I'm like damn why did I do this and why did I make this mistake over and over and over again and it was constantly tied every time I look deeper back to my ability to love myself for who I am

and to let go of my past right and to let go of the things that I was holding on to like the version of myself that I didn't want to be and then also like the internet thing that I was talking about earlier like getting the cloud and the likes and it it distorts it and I don't care what anyone says like you distort like your ego gets disorder we're like I'm fucking good and then you might treat people a little bit differently that you maybe wouldn't have treated them that way because you have this like distortion of popularity or like self-fulfillment from other people and so then you got on this route where like you were looking for the bad and you were just creating this mess for yourself so moving forward do you do you do anything different

other than just making different content and like stopping, you know, the pornography stuff. Are you doing anything different for like your, besides therapy, have you done anything like, anything like that for your heart, like for your soul? Like are you, are you like into? I started going to the gym. Oh. Which I'm really excited for. The best place in the world.

I honestly, I, it was pretty dark for a while. I was trying different like depression, anxiety medications. I tried out so many. nothing worked so now I'm on this I just need to do the gym I need to eat healthy clean and just figure out what it is from like the inside out very smart because all that stuff is like we are the stuff that we put in our body and the way that we treat ourselves is all what's going to come out and be our expression right and at the same time too even those like every time if you go and you look at this is why you really do have to stop that like looking at the negative

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I don't know if I can continue. No, no, I've been doing this for like 12 years. Are you serious? Yes. I've been doing YouTube for almost 11 years. Wow. And I've been doing maybe, if not 12, and I've been doing Instagram for 12 years.

Oh my God. Yeah, from the very beginning. So I've experienced it all. I've heard it all. I've read it all. I've seen it all. And it's just like I'm kind of just numb to it. And what I'll do now is if I see negative stuff,

I'll just delete it or I'll just like remove someone from being able to comment. That's what I'm like. Because there's also a thing that happens. There's a thing that happens. It's important for you to know that negative. negative it's this the craziest thing in the world negative as you know it just gets more everything everyone is oh my god they're doing this or they're breaking up or this is bad or the world war three or whatever the fuck negativity people like negativity yeah so like drama yeah so what i learned it was like okay

on my platform if i see someone negative for someone saying some shit i don't like i'll just i'll just literally like remove like you can hide their comment you can hide them from commenting forever you could delete them you could block them whatever i'll just remove them be like i'm not going to let that negative because what happens is someone else sees it and they go if it can't gets a little bit of engagement because, like, people like to be like, yeah, fuck you. Because it's like the people in the comments, there's a lot of good people, but there's also a lot of people who just be like, like, if you're going to write a YouTube comment, be like, you're a fucking stupid.

It's like, dude, who the fuck are you? So if you're one of those motherfuckers in the comments, you're going to see a negative comment and be like, I was way in the fucking agree with that. And usually the hate comment is from an account with no followers whatsoever. Their profile picture isn't them, but it's still like hurts me. I don't know. I think it's, I'm just so sensitive. Remember what I said.

It's about self-love, right? Those people who are doing that, there's definitely things in their life that they're not comfortable with. I've never left a hate comment before. I've never gone like, I'm going to go shit on this person. Right, yeah.

Also, my perspective is a little different because I'm in it. But I, even prior to being in it, I guess it didn't really exist prior to me being in it. I'm so fucking old, but I wouldn't, I couldn't never see myself being like, yo, I just want to talk bad about this person.

So you got to understand it's also like a reflection of the person there. The whole point, my whole point was, I will block a comment or block a person or delete it just so like other people don't try to snowball that negative effect. You're so true on that. Like I noticed on like YouTube videos a lot of times now like the top comment will be something rude or like the top comments on like a TikTok the most liked comments are always like just like negative stuff in it. You're right. It does snowball. It's like people like enjoy.

Because they see that it gets more reactions because everyone is so ingrained in negativity. So they go, oh, I'm going to say something. I mean, too, even if they didn't actually mean it. They just want to get other people to be like, yeah, we like it. Right, yeah. So it's the same thing we caught up in earlier. We were talking about being caught up, like having likes, having engagement, like this, like, weird form of validation that like everyone's seeking. It's so fucking strange.

And it's not human. It's not normal. It's like a very weird thing. But if you debt it, then like, and if you engage with good comments, like if some says, oh, you like, this is really sweet or like, I appreciate you or thank you and you engage with it, like, if you like heart the comment or if you like like it. then people will notice, oh, also, because like a lot of times too, people are like crying for attention, right? Because that's the same reason why I want this validation. If you engage with like positive comments and positivity, more people will be like, oh, maybe I'll get an engagement from you that they want because they just want attention. That's smart. Yeah. So just, you know,

you got, you'll learn over time to like play the game that way. Um, because it is. It's just, it's bullshit. It's, it's, it's, but it's the internet. And it's like, if you want to live here, you just have to grow like the skin to it like, it's okay. because at the end of the day those comments aren't really about you you know but the things you do to yourself and you go and you read them that is about you right you got to let go you got to move from that because i'm i'm very i'm very much actively working on it yeah well that's all this shit is to keep doing it so the other platforms you want to get on you're talking about youtube youtube i want to start youtube honestly just mostly for myself i think it'd be fun because i grew up watching

YouTubers and I've been in so many YouTube videos and those are my favorite like that's my favorite type of content to be in I love like starring in YouTube videos and like and I want to steer away from the like the sexualization and get be more just like funny and show off my personality more other than YouTube Twitch I was doing Twitch for a little bit I just took a break because I my schedule got kind of crazy and then probably post on TikTok a little bit more, but mostly YouTube and Twitch. That's like what I'm excited to start. What about have you thought of kick?

Oh, I did tweet out the other day. I was like, do I do Twitch or Kick? Because it's very back and forth right now. It was like 50-50. I think I did a poll on Instagram too and it was like almost exactly 50-50. Damn, that's a crazy thing. Switching around for a long time. These kick people are coming in and like.

Right. It's because like big people are joining Kik. Yeah. Well, because they have big money. Right. Because the company behind it is, you know, a gambling company. Yeah. You knew that, right?

I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know it was a gambling company, no. Steak owns Swifts. I was wondering why they were able to pay these certain people, like such large amounts to join the platform. You know steak? Yeah, of course. Yeah.

Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. That makes sense because steak can't, you can't do stake on. Yeah. Okay. So steak was like, fuck you. We're going to make our own platform.

Okay. So you can gamble on kick. Yeah. Essentially, you can do anything. anything just not nudity right i don't think you can do that i don't know if you could i i i think you can i don't i'm not saying you should but i think you can i think you i don't i don't know to be honest to be honest to be honest i don't know that but it's what it seems like it's like the wild west like they're just like whatever you want to do here just because i've seen shit of aiden which

i'm don't aiding finally hit me back by the way he's going to come on here we're going to talk about some stuff which is dope um but he but i saw aden just like you know he just like i don't give a fuck i'm saying whatever i want he's going to I think he's just kind of like into the point where he's like and this is a lot of people I I know he got to the point where I think he got a massive bag I know he got a massive bag and he's kind of like fuck it I'm going to say what I really think and not like not like no when I say going crazy I don't mean going crazy in a bad way yeah in a good way but I feel like he's yeah going crazy in a good way I just think it's interesting because a lot of people have opinions on like his perspective or his

opinion but at the same time like the problem with that I talked about this on the full Sampo we were interviewing Donald Trump Jr. was People are getting to a point on social media where they're afraid to say no to certain things. So they're afraid to like go against certain things just because of what everyone else or is perceived to that everyone else wants them to like kind of conform to. Right. Yeah. So creators are kind of like like even I won't say certain things just because I know that like it's going to be a fucking problem like that. It's going to be a shit show.

So it's like, how am I, it does frustrate me a little bit to have these conversations because, you know, there are platforms that I live on that like, if you go down that road, they're like, see you. You know, I've kick. Kick if you want to offer me a massive bag, then let's fucking work it out. Because it's like, it's, there are things. There's so many things I really do want to say and there's so much. And it's interesting because I'll have these conversations about certain topics in real life with like so many creators and so many people. And they're all like, yeah, I know, but you just can't say it. Right.

And it's like, that's a weird. concept because that concept like I was talking about on the full send pod I was like that's the scariest concept because imagine if like the spectrum of like what you could or couldn't say switch to this side and then you were on this side versus you're on this side now you're on that side I'm not even saying just politically I'm just saying in general like if you were not saying the things that you wanted to say that were really in your heart and you were like I can't say this though because everyone's going to be mad imagine if that whole thing switched and you end up on the other side the problem is just not having an open form of communication right

Like people are being like, can't say this, even though I really feel this. Then it creates just like, you create discourse. You create non-communication. It just creates like a weird one-sided. And it's, and eventually it's going to break. And I think it's interesting seeing people like Aden who are just getting at the point being like, well, fuck it. I'm just going to say this because, you know, he's been able to amass what he could

to be like, fuck it. And then you see it's interesting because at least from my perspective, it looks like it's only helped him more. Yeah. I feel like it's made his fan base like even stronger like they're like an army for him yeah because like I think so many people are like yo why are not why are not more people saying their opinion whether whether you believe it's right or wrong it's not it's not for me to say right but just sharing the opinion and someone feeling like I can't say this is a scary

right yeah that's the thing that I'm speaking to is like if we can't say that that's not scary I think that's also what Aiden's been like speaking like the same thing like the fact that like you have to nowadays we have to be scared to say what we're thinking and that's that is really scary yeah he called me up on stream and i was like oh i don't know if i want to have this conversation right now and that's what i told him but that's the truth that's and that's why it's like you know like i said kick shout out hit me up but uh it's like man i wish and i and the thing is i think it's getting closer i think i think everyone is kind of getting more accepting of like yo like fuck this like let's actually kind of speak up let's share how we feel too let's share how we feel too let's share

how like you know not just hearing from this side forever like let's fucking let's have real conversation so have there have there ever been any times in your life where you have had like weird moments with like friends or family that besides obviously in relationship to the sex work have you ever had moments where like you felt like you couldn't say what you wanted to say or you couldn't like express yourself how you wanted to express yourself in like my personal life yeah especially because my dad's side was like we're raised in like a religious cult they're super hold on i need a water can you grab me water or just a cup of water or something from the kitchen that's fine so a cult yeah so my dad in my dad's parents and my grandparents

um were in a religious cult um this is good when my dad was younger too what religion cult was it was christianity okay but how it was a cult because i don't know they won't really tell me much about it at all it's like a very hush-hush situation it's actually my mom that tells me that told me about it recently well what would be so christianity obviously not a cult but what would make the cult what would the cult behavior like like going door to door trying to convert people oh um it's like super that's Mormonism isn't it no it's not this is this is Christianity oh okay I don't know christian Christianity no but that's uh that's not Mormon that's uh what is that is that that's a jehovah witness damn you're right it's not Mormon they weren't that they were

she got it the 20 year old fuck underestimated the new assistant she got us dude I'm stupid for that that was embarrassing she got it it is a jehovah witness you're right it's not Mormon sorry Mormons damn dude you got me what you talking shit over there I'm just like you know how like Utah is full of Mormons yeah why I think there was some church or some like some guy over there that was that's where he migrated something like something like something like like that yeah i don't know the full story but i know random thought i just thought of that no i appreciate that but i know they only do butt stuff because it's like because like it's or like apparently like what is it called soaking soaking yeah yeah soking they just like put it in just hold it but you don't

yeah you put it in and then you don't move but then like you'll hear that like they'll put it in you don't move and they'll have their friends shake the bed have you heard of the bed i was just on that side of ticot actually people that's a sign of ticot yes it is holy shit i didn't know that I was on the Mormon side of TikTok for a little bit. How'd you get there? Thank you. I don't know. Mormons just interest me.

Oh, wait. Oh, God. This is so funny. Okay, hold on. Before we get to Mormons, interest me, let's talk about the cold thing. So they went door to door and they're like, yo, be a Christian. Like asking for money for the church, trying to convert people. Like, um, and I guess the church became really corrupt and all this stuff.

I don't know too much about it because my dad's side of the family never speaks about it. My dad doesn't. It's my mom who's, who's. who has told me my parents are divorced now so my mom as I get older is like starting to tell me more and more yeah but no my family my dad's side of the family is crazy crazy religious and that's part of the reason that they disowned me when they found out that I was involved in sex work but now now I'm not disowned like I think I've seen them I went to Thanksgiving not this last Thanksgiving but the one before that and saw them and they like acted normal around

me but I'm not getting any like text like hey Skyler love you how are you doing they didn't try to fucking kill you and fucking put you on the skewer and burn you at the stake yeah okay so so when did your parents get divorced um my parents got divorced when I was six remarried when I was 12 um and then divorced again when I was 18 so every six oh you went to two divorces yes oh shit did that that must have affected the way that you kind of of like. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My dad is a he's the type that he's a pathological liar will lie about anything, everything, random stuff. And he also is a cheater. Like he cheated on my mom so much. Like he, I think it's my mom explains it to me as like an ego thing almost. Like he's insecure.

So he needs to know that he's like loved or like people still find him attractive or something. I don't know. But he's actually, he just got married this past. summer to the mistress that my mom caught him with when I was six years old and I was not invited to the wedding you mad about the non-invite or the fact that I wouldn't have gone either way but uh so when you're six years old like have you ever gone back and like revisited the way that that made you feel when you were six or seven or eight when you would have been more cognizant of it it was it was more so weird when my mom got a new boyfriend and then when my dad got new girlfriend, that was weird to me because I, my dad's girlfriend that he got had a kid.

So then I was super insecure and scared that like my dad was going to love that kid more than me. And that's like what's going through my head is like an elementary school. Yeah. Uh, child. And then I'm the guy that my mom ended up with was a state trooper and he was like really strict, like crazy, crazy strict. And that was a weird time of my life, like those six years that. They were both like seeing other people. I don't know. That was like since I was so young, it's like how do you understand or like grasp that your parents are separated now and with different people? And then they got back together when I was 12 and I'm the one actually. My mom got a second job so that they could afford to buy me and my brother Christmas presents. And when my mom was at her second job, I would hear my dad on the phone in the basement for like hours. And I started like eavesdropping and I heard.

heard that it was a girl's voice. So I told my mom and my mom went through the phone records and found out that he was cheating again. So then they got divorced again. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think this stuff is like translated into the rest of your life as far as decisions you made? Yeah.

Of course because that's, I mean that's my parents. That's who you like grew up learning like the earliest of lessons from. So yeah, that was difficult. Did you see a lot of like, obviously the cheating and like. Like, was it like anything else that was like, any verbal abuse, anything like that? Did you see like negativity between your parents before they got split? Or even the second time around? Like, was there, like the guy who said he was super strict, would he be like?

It's, it was hard because even when my parents got remarried the second time, my dad still wasn't a good person and was still cheating and doing whatever. And my mom, I think she suspected. it for a while but just kind of put up with it pretended like she didn't until I found out and then she's like okay now like if my child or daughter knows that you're cheating on me now I have to leave but she's still every time I go and visit her back home she talks about my dad and is like I should have just stayed with your dad damn and I think part of the reason she says that is because I think she's sub like subliminally trying to say like then you wouldn't be doing what you're doing like maybe your outcome would have been a little bit different if me and my your dad would have stayed together so that kind of hurts my feelings do you think that's true though oh do I personally think it's true no yeah but it is hurtful that I think that my parents have like those type of thoughts yeah but they wish I went on a different route but does it make sense to you at all Yeah, it makes sense.

I can see I personally wouldn't want my child to get into sex work. Yeah. Because of your experience in it? Because what you know now or just generally thinking about it? Just in just in general. Like I've been blessed. I haven't had too many bad experiences working with other people. But I think that's a rarity.

I think a lot of girls in the industry do have bad experiences. And so that's why I wouldn't want my child to become involved with it. So you obviously learn this through your experiences in it or talking to other people who have experienced. Through my own, through talking to other people. Like Lana Rhodes is someone who's like super vocal about it. Yeah. And yeah.

About about like not doing it. About not doing it. And just like the negative experiences she's had. Yeah. It's interesting because we talked to another one on the full sample. We talked to Abela Danger recently. I don't know when this bad pot is live yet. I don't even know if I could say that.

But no, I'm going to say it anyways. I don't care. So the pot will come out. But she was saying how like she felt the opposite. She felt like that stigma shouldn't be there because it's not that bad. She's on the other side of the spectrum of like she didn't find it to be like a negative thing. I think it is. I don't know.

A lot of. I don't think there's anything wrong. with being in porn, sex work, whatever you want to call it, the people that are in it, like the big, huge girls that are famous, they're in it because they love it. And I love that for them. I love that they love their job. But it's not the same experience for everyone. And I think that's really irresponsible for people to say that this industry is something

that like is like so fun. and like you're not going to have a bad experience. I think that's irresponsible to say. Because it's too unique for everyone. Yeah. It's almost like the gym. It's like people thinking like I'm going to show up. And if I do his work out, I'm, I look like him.

But it's like, no, you're not. You're not because like genetically you're different. Right. Yeah. Timelines for people when you achieve things are different. So this is also just like someone's circumstances won't be the same. If they started this then, they may not get to the same point or they not even have the same opportunities and they may find themselves in position where like, what the

fuck did I do? Yeah. And people, people in porn they don't like talking about the bad side of it like everyone they just glamorize how because I think they feel like movie stars are famous and there is a bad side of it there's like the health risks STDs going around people lying about getting tested yeah I the only bad scene I've ever had personally was I was filming a scene with someone and he put it up my ass sorry that's like pretty graphic to say but I've never done anal before so it was it wasn't

asked beforehand and I was in pain for days later like I was in physical pain so you didn't agree to it prior I didn't agree to it no you always whenever you do a scene whenever I personally do a scene I always ask what are your dues your don't what do you you know what do you want me to do what do you not want me to do I think I start every scene off like that that's how that's I think a really important conversation to have and that's a conversation we had and he he's like surprise yeah you put it up my ass but like but hold on though how does this happen like because I'm not trying to like create this circumstances over again but he just sticks it in I don't get it as it goes it's like

it's not an easy thing to uh we were like in a we were in the position where you're like laying down like spooning almost so we had it like in my got you originally and like slipped it out and put it up my ass and he was like whispering my in my ear like oh like you like that and like when i'm in when i was in a scene like i i guess i was so tapped in that i just like went with it no you're so like in character yeah but but afterwards immediately afterwards i told him that i wasn't comfortable with that and that I wanted that part cut out of the scene so you've never done it before you just did it there wow this was fresh into my um start so if that was if something like that would have happened like a few months ago oh my god I would have just gotten up and walked away

but I was that was one of my first ever scenes you felt like you had to continue yeah I just I didn't know that that was something that I had the right to feel violated over I guess um that's pretty like that's a pretty crazy thing though yeah it also just how did he just get it in there so fast and just like I mean I was in pain in pain for days later so like he definitely pushed hard I don't know yeah but um you should have been like yo what the fuck he should have him with the elbow the conversation we had immediately after days after because I kind of it took a few days to register that that wasn't okay so I texted him I said hey um I've never done anal before I would really perform for that section of the video to be cut out.

And he agreed with it. He was like, yeah, totally. We can cut it out or whatever. Months later, it's posted on the hub. And the thumbnail is his dick in my house. Wow. And so that's like, that was really hurtful. That was really, really hurtful.

Did he put your name in the title too? Yeah. Wow. That guy sucks. Yeah. Whoa. He put your name too. Yeah.

Is it his account like he's getting paid on that too? Damn, geeky. You can't be like, yo, what the fuck? Take that down. So my team, I have like a like a like management team obviously. Like they reached out on my behalf because I wasn't comfortable reaching out to him because I already reached out to him and said I don't want this in. I'm not going to reach out to you a second time.

I'm going to have people do it on my behalf. And he just never answered them. So then they had to go straight to the hub and have the video taken down like copyright wise or like I don't know what exactly they did. sucks yeah but it's it's stuff like that like that only happened in my first few months and i know so uh so many other girls that have similar stories and experiences i actually know girls that he's done that too other girls like his thing what the fuck apparently and so that's why i do caution people before they get into the industry because it is uh it's not one it's not all glamour like so

and beautiful and what a lot of people make it out to be there is a little bit of a dark side to it I guess yeah it's not all it's not all like what it appears obviously just like the fucking shit on the internet yeah yeah I will I will say that I am fortunate enough though that was my only bad experience all my other scenes I've like I enjoyed the people I worked with they were respectful but yeah it was that one that I was like wow what about what about social media in general have you had any like very weird experiences there or exchanges there Like, what's your weirdest exchange on social media? Hmm.

Um, do you mean, like, actual exchanges, like, with other people, like, verbal exchanges or, like, just, like, weird? Um, yeah, verbal. I mean, I guess, I'm assuming DMs or, like, even just people that you've interacted with, like, while being a part of content creation, like, anything that, like, stood out to you that's like, that was fucking weird. Honestly, not really. Not really.

Uh-uh. Everyone that I've worked with is great. like YouTube wise is is amazing that's why like a lot of the YouTubers I've worked with I've worked with them multiple times they've always been so respectful and what about not YouTube wise um no not really because I don't really like go out and socialize too much I'm very to myself I have like my core group of people I surround myself with so I don't really go out and get crazy and and put myself in positions to like have weird confrontations and stuff with people. But I've been pretty good so far. So then what about like weird DMs? Have you

had like really weird DMs? I'm assuming you get a ton. Oh yeah. Oh my God. There's so many people that have gotten my name tattooed on them. And the best part is I've had two people now get real Skybury tattooed on them, which is just my Instagram handle. Like I don't know why like why are you getting real skyby? Like they'll get in like cursive on their arm or something like why not just like Skyrie? Why are you hitting it with a real skyby? I don't know. But, Next you know, we're going to have the fucking at. Right, right. Like, that's like the next step there.

I've had, like, a few people get self-port, like, portraits of me done. That's insane. Where? Where? I've had at least, like, three now. I think on the leg, like, just, like, from, like, like, my Instagram pictures and stuff. Because I have people tattooing the, this logo on them. Uh-huh. But it's, like, a cool logo.

Yeah, that's cool. Now that's your face is not cool. How would you feel? Yeah. No, it's, everyone that's gotten a tattoo done. They're actually pretty well done. I'm honestly like I'll usually repost it because I think that is like yeah that is always repost that yeah how would you feel if someone got your name my face tattooed

my my name weird my face very weird really you do think you would think but it's like people get like tattoos of like I don't know like basketball players like your favorite rappers what you're like I'm thinking like when I've done a lot more and I'm like dead than like tattoo my face you know like a two puck tat you know like that's when you start tat it's like I don't it be like the logo I get it because it's cool and it can like mean something because of you know someone watched my content for so many years it can mean something to them um but my face is like I don't know I feel I got a lot more to do before someone gets my face tattooed unless they just really like tattoos what what did I do then to get my face tattooed on?

champ at something fuck but they just really loved you damn would you ever get someone's like name or face tattooed on you I have like two people's name tattooed on me you do I do I have one on the back of my neck that one's Jake Paul and then I have Eden Ross on my own why did you do that um why Jake Paul

a laughs of judgment for the Jake Paul one yeah not the Aiden one that's too funny I like the Aiden one I think it's really cute wait let me see it yeah why the laughs of judgment the Jake Paul one

wait until you get to that you know why I like it because it's symmetrical the same yeah shout out aiden i love aiden yeah um so why why laughs on judgment on the uh jake paula that was um that was just a really weird time and did he tell you to get the tattoo okay so that happened i've talked about this a few times yeah but i don't know so i know i just like i don't care i want to hear i'm so tired of talking about about Jake Paul um basically this is only a few months of me being in telele so I'm so new he's like the first like relevant person that hits me up that wants to fly me out got it and so I'm like yeah

I'm down like let's do it and then I brought my my friend with me we flew to Puerto Rico we had a whole like week and a half with him and it was actually his idea he had a tattoo artist at his house and he was like I'll get your name tattooed on me if you get my name tattooed on you so we did it and I don't know we might have had some some drinks that day you're like fuck it yeah it was just kind of like one of those like fuck it like oh my god I can't believe I'm hanging out with Jake Paul because up until that point like I hadn't even like met everyone I know now yeah um and I regret that one though because it it was some weird he thought we were in he was acting like we were going to be in a relationship but I think really

Really, he was just going through stuff. He was going through like a fresh breakup. So I regret it, I guess. I don't, because I don't talk to him anymore. I didn't. He was like a nice dude, but I, we just like, we're on different wavelengths. Like, he's just, he just wasn't someone that I normally would have been friends with, I guess. That's why I do regret that one.

And I will get it, lasered off one day. Yeah. And so then the eight and one, not regretful. No, not regretful. Just because you like it way it looks or? Um, I like the way it looks and I like Aiden. I really like Aiden. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Why do you like Aiden? What do you like about Aiden? Um, I like Aiden because, uh, he's had like some sit down conversations with me, like, like, just us and given me, like, real advice. Um, like, just human to human. Like, like, something that I'm big on is like, when people like actually make eye contact, with you and are actually, you can tell

they're listening to what you're saying as like a big thing. A lot of people in L.A., like influencers and stuff, they're like looking at the phone like, like, oh yeah. And stuff. But Aiden's like actually like taking time to like sit down with me and like we've had like some deep talks and he's given me some really good advice. And I also just like him as a person. I think he's really funny. I like

his content. Yeah. Solid. I just like him as a person. I don't know. And if the tat does actually look cool because it's symmetrical. It's like same, same amount of letters on each side. Yeah. And, yeah. And also like I still I still like Aiden like we every now and then we'll just like be like what's up like how are you doing? It's like casual. We're still like cool. So versus like the Jake one like we don't talk whatsoever. So that's like why is that even there? But I don't know. I just like this one. It's cute. It's fun. Ian's a cool person. Would you get more tattoos? No. Yeah, you're good. No. No. Now I know that that was a say I'm learning because I've only been in this for just over a year. I'm now looking back at so many of the things. I've done and said and I'm like why the hell did I do that like but this is this is life right like you're 20 you said 24 I just turned 24 yeah I'm about to be 34 so I'm fucking 10 years

older than you it's like this is you you you're doing it right you know like this is all learning I'm learning yeah what do you think you've learned the most in your experience just in life and then the two part question and then in the sex work stuff so in life first like what you think you're like damn this is I'm really glad that I know this now that I was able to break out of my shell and accomplish everything that I've accomplished in the past year I like when I say I had no friends like I actually ate lunch in the school bathroom three out of the four years in high school like I was like severely severely anxious had super bad social anxiety I actually dropped out my senior year because I had such bad anxiety and just couldn't couldn't do it like

every time the bell would ring I would have like a panic attack um like a physical panic attack a physical panic attack yeah like I would get really sweaty what were you afraid of like just being around people being around people yeah but because of like the way you look or the way you're in a talk or you're the way I look um I struggle with when I meet people not knowing what to talk about I don't know how to like start conversations. Now I do. I think I'm a lot better at it. Yeah, you're great.

But back then I don't know. I just was so insecure about everything. And so I guess the life lesson is like looking back, if I would have known, like if fucking like 16 year old Skyler would have known I would be here right now that like would have blown my mind that I was able to like put myself out there. that much and like actually grow a following and people like like me and stuff that would that would blow my mind because i was so just that's like the total opposite of what i've grew up experiencing the first like 21 years of my life was almost like complete isolation i only i only got like a few friends after high school so what do you think really broke you out of that then because a lot of people can relate to like feeling like that 100% I think I think I realized that

it wasn't going to change unless I got up off my ass and made it change like if I like I had to push myself like flying out to L.A. to be on the no jumper podcast that was like the ultimate like you can do this like this is your one opportunity you have to get it your life isn't going to change if you just stay where you're at you're going to work at target forever you're only going to have a few friends so i just i sucked it up and i i don't know i had an opportunity and i saw it and i took it and so it's so interesting because like you you seem so like fearful about you know other stuff and then but you like what made you just say like actually fuck it like why were you in that moment to say fuck it no jumper at that point like i was like

a huge fan and I knew that that was like my only opportunity to like ever go to be able to visit the office space or like me Adam so I just like I had to take it yeah yeah so opportunities to seeing it yeah I think that's another reason I blew up so much too in the beginning I took every opportunity like every person every YouTuber that hit me up to work I would work with them like I took every single opportunity even if some of them didn't work out like some of the videos flops or whatever like you i just kept going and going and eventually certain ones uh popped off went viral and it just like started the ball rolling yeah but i think the and for a while i i was good i was i was i was super confident because i was new on the scene and i was receiving so much love and

excitement but then i think now i'm kind of becoming like i'm going back to my old self like the high school scholar where I'm insecure just because now I'm just I don't know because now I'm at this point where I'm starting to receive hate because I've gotten so big so it's interesting how it goes in cycles like that yeah it does yeah yeah there's good months and there's bad months but um it's also not even just necessarily months but I mean just like how you started this place where you were like insecure

and then you were like fuck I this is my opportunity I'm going to seize it right and then now you're here and you have it and you're like I don't know about this. Yeah. So it's like at what point do you stop this? Because like you don't want it to continue that way. Right. Right.

Right. Right. So what are you going to do to like not let it continue? I think the deciding to quit, uh, porn was, is probably the biggest thing because it's just not, it's just not what I'm passionate about at this point. Yeah. And I just don't want to. I just don't want to be known for it anymore, I guess.

Yeah. I don't want, like, that to be my whole personality. Um, so creating stuff and building a band base and an audience off of something else. Like, whether it's like YouTube or Twitch, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Not just like action like of sex. Mm-hmm.

Right. Um, yeah, I think like, why not? I mean, if you were able to accomplish that and put yourself out to such like a crazy degree that, like this is, in my opinion, 10 times easier. Right. You just got to show up and just like have fun and like, this is who I am and show yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

So now back to the, like I said, the second part of that question, doing the sex work, what do you think the biggest thing you've learned about yourself is? Because I'm not going to ask you like the corny question. Like, what's your favorite position? You know? I know. I knew coming on you weren't. Everyone always loves to ask me who's your, what's the biggest dig you ever?

Like who's your favorite person you've ever worked with? Biggest thing I learned from sex work probably. You knew I wasn't going to ask you that dumb shit, right? Oh, I knew. I knew. Okay, good. Yeah. Good.

That's why I'm a little stumped with this question. I don't know. So, I mean, I guess just think like, you know, you started it in Target and you're like, fuck it with my boyfriend. And then all these years go by. And then you have this success because you find this situation, no jumper, blow up. I'm sure you filmed, I don't even know how many videos to this point. Maybe like 30.

30. All right. So through all these moments and all these experiences, what do you think you're like, what did you really take away? Because if now you're saying, hey, I want to kind of start stepping away from this and I want to pursue these other aspects of like sharing my personality and what I actually really care about, what do you think you really learn through that process that you're going to be able to take forward and like, you know, benefit from or share with people. Because the truth about all this stuff and all of our lives just in general is like the people who continue to have more

and more success and continue to grow in like in those different arenas are people who just essentially share what they've been through, right? Like if we're talking about on social, it's all just about sharing your life and what you've been through, right? That's why I consider to have this conversation with you because of my life that I've lived, I can share it. So you lived a life that, you know, not a lot of people lived. Right. You know, all of us, obviously, but you've done some things that, yeah, a lot of people do,

but you've done it to a level in like an excitement that all these people are involved or invested in you, right? That not a lot of people can say. So the question comes down to what did you learn through all of that and like, how are you going to take this forward and kind of like give them? back, you know, what would you share? What would you teach? What would you show? Or what would you want someone like if you had a kid, right? What would you teach them about that circumstance that you went through? I would say probably not to lose sight of yourself and who you want to be. I think

that's a big thing. I, it's so easy for me to tap into Sky Bree. And it's 10 times easier for me to go on a podcast and sit with my boobs out and like be bouncing and smiling and talk all sledding and stuff like that's so easy that I lost sight of like who Skyler was and it like dubbed down my intelligence and so just I don't know just I guess for like in social media in general sex work everything like just like don't lose sight of yourself and who like what you stand for and your morals and yeah that type of thing you know it's really important you you said that, that idea, not just everything you said is amazing, but the idea of you just being like the ditsy girl because it's easy and you know that it can get like the engagement.

The thing that I think a lot of people don't realize just in life in general is every day we're like, if you repeat to yourself, man, I'm afraid or I'm scared or like I don't know or the doubt, all this stuff like or if you act in those ways like where you're like, oh, I'm here just I'm this. Like you are actually training your mind to be that, to feel that, to like make that you're being like this is a real thing like neurologically like you fire these things off you're like you know if you think to yourself I'm not good enough and you don't counteract that with like no no you know what why did that thought come through I am good enough like you have to retrain

your brain and I don't think a lot of people realize that the music you listen to the the conversations that you have with people the people you surround yourself with all these things and your own actions dictate the person that you become and a lot of people lose sight of that yeah that's that's the point that I was at. I was literally only thinking of negative things. Like I couldn't even, like a few months ago, I couldn't tell you one positive thing about myself. I was hanging around toxic people that only talk shit about other people. And that's why the past few months, I've really like closed in my group, like group of friends and found people that I really, really love that are so supportive of me and like my future endeavors and remind me that I'm not

the hate comments yeah and just like always like because they all my friends know that I go looking for the hate comments I'm constantly looking for it and they all like they'll like randomly text me like don't do that today like don't do it you know they don't do it like I'll get calls for my friends all the time now too like just checking in like hey like just like don't listen to it because they know what it's like. But yeah, that's why I'm excited. I've finally the past few months been starting to feel better because I've consciously came to the decision

that I was going to be putting an end to the whole porn thing. And this is actually the first time that I've spoke about it. And it kind of feels like a weight lifted off my shoulders because now I'm putting it out and I don't know, it kind of like forces me to like I have to do something else now and I think I have to find something that I'm actually really really passionate about yeah I mean it's just what you want like it's what you want so it's like the uncomfortableness in it is also good you know it should feel like a little scary a little bit so that but like you know if you didn't go in and step

into that then you just keep stepping into the thing that you know you already don't want to because you've tried it not that it's terrible for every single person right yeah no yeah I don't want it to seem like I'm hating on like the industry or anyone in it. I think like the people that are in it that are successful and like they do it because they love it and that makes I think it's awesome if you are able to wake up every day and do something that you love it just personally for me it just wasn't for me. Yeah yeah well you went through it you experienced it and it's now just move on to right yeah other things that you're that are more connected with where you are in your life now and it's all like I said it's all just process and learning and discovering yourself and

learning how to love yourself better that's what it's all about. That's what I'm working on. Well, this was fucking amazing. I wish we had audience questions, man. You're going to have to start doing this, so I have a new assistant. This is wonderful. I got to get you to log into the email, but normally at the end of every episode, we have audience questions.

Gotcha. So if you guys want to send in questions, because we're going to start doing that for the next podcast, sorry that I didn't answer your questions this time, but it's AskRotalk at gmail.com if you guys want us to answer your questions myself with a guest. But Jacob, I'm assuming this guy is one of the smartest people that I know, and he is my Jamie if I was Joe Rogan and he had the question you make me ask questions that I didn't prepare for anything I gave you I gave you a long build up to asking you that in the fact that I was talking about the questions you knew that I might ask you I just need you you you're smart guy

dude I'm pulling out of my ass if you didn't do porn what would you do like if you didn't if you never did porn what would you rather have done I think I would have went into the navy why uh that was what I was thinking about doing for years and I have family that went that were in the navy so like like just because you just because you know other people did it you're like fuck it yeah and i think i needed the discipline instead instead you're like pornography let me know the total office hair out fuck dude that's a hard left turn that's like navy super like conform like this do it this way and then it's like pornography you're just like fuck you know that meme fuck dude we got to pull up that meme you know the mean where the car's like

getting out their freeway and it's like violently turning yeah just from like a girl's perspective you were talking about it desensitizing you to sex and I was just wondering like has it in other ways inhibited like relationships and not just like the desensitization to sex but like with girls judging you too for it and like girl relationships and female friendships for it's all around um that was a great question holy shit she's good dude that was really really good. Fucking dope. She's a good one.

Yeah. It desensitized me from sex. It desensitized me from relationships because I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't, I'm a relationship girl. I've always, like my past, when I moved to L.A., I was with him for two years. And then prior to that, I was with someone for like three years. So I've always, I loved being in relationships. I would love to be in a relationship now.

but while I was doing adult work I just couldn't focus on building a relationship with someone else because I had to go get pounded out by whoever else like it just it just I don't know mentally I couldn't and for me I feel like for me to really like want to be with someone and date them I want to give them my all like I only want to be with them I don't want to work with other people or anything like that or like have sex with any other people. So yeah, it's it made me desensitized in that way. I just couldn't I couldn't form connections or relationships. I didn't want to. I would try and I would be the one to like falter and fuck it up. But with girls, surprisingly a lot of my girls back from my hometown think it's kind of cool

what I do. But there are, of course, girls that like talk shit. I didn't call me a slide or that but um yeah i have one more question yeah go is watch if okay so if you're in a relationship and your man is watching yeah oh hey hold on a second hold on a second i have really hold on this is funny this is funny go ahead ask you if your man watches porn is that considered cheating no i don't think so for me personally i think every with every relationship it's different but for me personally no because i watch porn and could never picture myself not watching porn. I don't watch any porn. I only watched lesbian porn. Oh, fire. Damn. I don't know how I was gonna respond with.

I got my watch no porn. I also don't jerk off. That's like some do you really not. Yeah, that's some new shit. That's good. I've been doing it actually now for the last like year and it feels like I still think you're you haven't jerked off in a year. A year in like four months. Oh my god. So do you just have a lot of sex? Are you? What's your sex way? Anyways, uh, we're gonna end the podcast. We're gonna end the podcast right there. Um, yeah, yeah, we'll end that there um no i stopped having sex for like a year and a half and i stopped jerking off too i just oh wow that's awesome can't do it just get to the point where for me i was like you know it's just it didn't need to be a part of my day it didn't how much better do you feel way better really 10 times better

yeah because it was like you know it's number one it's a very weird thing if you really put it in perspective to like masturbate climax to two other people on camera exchanging sexual energy and you're like exchanging your own sexual energy in relationship to that and you're not it's like a very because that's a very powerful energy right you're just kind of like doing it just you know you maybe you're finding a spot and like coming to this spot that you like this it's like a very weird you create these like habits like I said everything we do we create habits within ourselves that continue to affect our life so you don't want to create habits around like you know sex needing to like be like this or like your perception of it being like that um so removing

that completely allows you to just like I think really genuinely enjoy sex other than it having to like be a certain way which you know to me like I said it's just about the habit for me and then also the the dopamine response to like masturbating right you're having these like little moments of like dopamine releases that you know on top of for me the internet and like trying to get likes or views or all this shit you have like I don't it's like I need to eliminate some forms of like this release you know where it's like oh I can get views I need to get like and like if it was good it was good if it was bad if it was bad and then you just have another form of it where it's like obviously masturbating you come no problem every time it's good right

for most people for most I don't know anyways not a girl can't relate to that but for most men it's very simple right you do it very quickly right yeah some girls maybe a little more difficult I'm not a girl anyways listen we're not going to get into that conversation but the point is this uh you you create these like these like little highs and lows and so having less of those overall makes me feel more clear. Bro, you just made me feel so bad for jerking off. Yeah, I'm sorry. You're never doing it again now.

Dude, think about it. I mean, you're literally like, you're like, I get it. Are there physical benefits too? Because don't they say like for like, um, athletes, they're not supposed to masturbate or have sex like before a big game or something? I don't know if that's so true. I don't know the science behind it. Um, I don't genuinely don't know enough about it.

But like, I do know that like that exertion, like that release, I mean, it is a form of energy that you're releasing that like if I'm an athlete at the highest level like maybe I want to like reserve as much energy as possible for my sport but I don't know scientifically if there's like a literal relationship to like that and performing in a sport I don't know but I do know like that dopamine release is like I don't need that I don't need those hits all the time I'd rather be more clear and then like when I if I'm going to have it then it you know it means more it's more intimate it's more it's more personal it's more what I want it to be. I mean, you just inspired me. Yeah. Maybe I'll go cold turkey too. You know who also said

that to me when I had this conversation with him? Yeah. A bell of danger. Really? Yes. Wow. She said the same shit off the pot. She was like, I'm going to stop too. Interesting. But she's then she's kind of like maybe I won't though. I don't know. I don't know. But no, I mean it like because then it's it's it's going to your relationship to that is just going to start to change. Yeah. Like everything we do like I said is like it's we're we're programming ourselves so you might as well do things that are like if you want to be able to build better relationships like to be able to be more intimate than like then every time you experience that you're experiencing that in an intimate actual setting instead of just like I'm watching porn doing this and my mind is here and then you know and then

you go do it with them and maybe it's a little like what what's going on or a little more disconnected so then you create more connection that makes sense yeah sorry I'm sorry guys I actually have not jerked that's why I can sit here and say that I'm like this, I'm like, he's so proud. Yeah, he's, fuck. Yeah, he's like, fuck, what am I doing, dude? It's all good. Your question was hilarious, though.

We'll talk about that later. That was funny. That was good. But yeah, do you have any questions for me before we get off? Hmm. If you could give me one piece of advice, what would it be? Hmm. I would say the thing that we talked about earlier that is most important for you to continue to do, I think,

is just continue to find different ways that, you learn how to love yourself like because it's one thing to say yeah I love myself like then the other versions other formats is like okay what are you doing to like actually prove that and like do that day and day out like what practices that's why I asked you kind of earlier like what things are you doing to do that figuring out more ways that allow you to like love yourself and I mean that like as simple as you know I don't know going to a sauna and being like I'm going to do this because I know that this makes me feel good and like doing like the self-care things that That's a big reason why I started going to the gym.

Yeah, like picking things, even outside of the gym, like meditation, journaling, all these things that's, you know, I talked about this and people think it's corny sometimes. But it's like all these things, journaling, for example, you're able to put your thoughts out there in a different way that is just like, you know, it's less, less outside influence, right? Because if you sit alone quiet and you write, you're going to be able to like really say, you know, it's yours, it's private, you don't need someone to see it. on social media it's not a tweet to get views it's not a tweet to get engagement it's like really your thoughts and it's different than your thoughts being in your mind and bouncing around with like other thoughts and your ego and you're just all this other shit happening when you just kind of start put it out there it allows you to see like really oh this is how I really feel right so you get a more clear perspective on like your heart you're like who you really are so spending

more time like developing the habits to to do those things will really start to like change your life and it teach you because I said the more you learn how to love yourself the more you can learn to like genuinely love others and build real connection with others right so yeah that's the one advice thank you that was that was great yeah have you done in ted talks no not haven't you shouldn't you should you should do one that'd be cool yeah ted talk fucking right now on raw talk um yeah I love this shit I really enjoyed I enjoyed speaking with you thank you I enjoyed speaking with you yeah you did wonderful thank you yeah I was a little nervous no yeah you crushed it um but yeah thank you so much if you guys want to subscribe drop drop a like drop a comment do all that good stuff on

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