RAWTALK - Sneako on Living w/ Ye & The Truth About Elon, Trump & Epstein's Ties

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

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Do you walk your dogs with these shoes? I step in shit sometimes too, yeah. Yeah, I figured. I do everything in these shoes. Everything. Pocket watching and asking how much I make, how much the rent is, looking at my bathroom. Yeah, because you're, you know, you're a YouTube crashout.

So you're trying to wonder like, okay, what's the life like of a canceled YouTube crashout? How do you continue? Wait, should I bring my YouTube plaque in here for the pod? It's got the phone. Bring it in. But she's getting his million, his million subscriber YouTube plaque, which I fully understand. I have one of these. I should have two of these, but I only sent me one.

Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yes. I did this. This is mine. They can't take it away from me. YouTube, they could cancel everything. You take my channel, but you can't take my black.

It's very beautiful. But the crazy part is they just took all your videos off. Yeah. That's the sad part. Yeah. They still exist, though. I just put them up on a new Twitter. There's going to be a website soon where people could see them for free.

So you still have all that content? I have all the, yeah. Of course. That's good. You can't lose that. Because that was like your fucking, like, legit childhood. Yeah. Thank you for saying that because, yeah, it was really important to me.

Some people try to minimize it, but it's like a sentimental value for me. Yeah. I mean, it's something like, you know, when I go, my videos will probably still be on YouTube. yours will be on a website somewhere that's sick same thing youtube's a website but youtube fell off though it doesn't really have the same i came to terms of that i'm not really upset about it anymore yeah i'm trolling so you you actually think it fell off i don't go i watch everything on twitter now on x i watch 90% of my videos on x maybe that's just because i'm the only website i'm allowed on yeah but everything else like i don't watch the same youtube and i when i click now everyone looks

like a mr b's clone yeah i see what you're saying it's like why would i watch a vlog when I could just watch the best moments of the vlog on a clip. Yeah. Well, dude, I would tell you straight up, most people come up to me now and they say, oh, you're that guy on TikTok. And I don't even post. I post content on TikTok, but it's just my clips that are on TikTok. I saw the switch.

When I came back from Spain, I was walking around here. People used to say, oh, are you that YouTuber? You know what they say now? I'm like, oh, aren't you that streamer? So there, and now when I walk around, I see people filming, I used to go to the Washington Square Park here and see, like, the new people who are trying to become content creators. they used to be making street interviews and doing YouTube videos.

Everyone's streaming now. The kids, like people are like walking a basketball, like with the streaming phone. Yeah. No one's trying to become a YouTuber anymore. It's all streamers. Yeah. And it's interesting because even the, even the big streamers, I mean, they're still able to leverage the YouTube platform because the same content that will go on a stream ends up on like, you know, an hour long

or a, you know, a couple hour long different segments on YouTube videos. So there's still, they're still like there, but it's, you're right. It's not as, like, the first option that people think about when they think about making content anymore. I saw a switch yesterday, too. Mr. Beas is like the king of YouTube, right? He posted a video yesterday going on a date on Disneyland. And I'm like, this is what we do.

Streamers. You take a girl, go to Universal. And he did that for a YouTube video. For YouTube, like, take her on a date, which is like he's doing girl content. So he's definitely seeing how much popularity is when streaming and trying to adapt it for YouTube. Yeah, well, he's done a bunch of stuff with the phase guys recently, too.

Like they've been doing a lot of content where I think they go in and do content for for each other essentially Yeah, they're doing they're doing stream I mean streaming is I know why it is it is what's most popular now It's it's it's because everything else has got to the point where you know it just in the world in general It's like what's real what's fake AI stuff all this stuff right bro I see videos now where I'm like I I used to believe that no you couldn't you couldn't you couldn't eliminate content Content creators, bro, I feel like in the next fucking 10 years, they're just going to be fake content creators that people won't know the difference if it's a real human being or not. It's happening quicker than I thought it was going to happen to the switch where you could see they exist. You see the videos popping up of like fake street interviews, fake influencers.

The prompts. Yeah. Like where they're just like, obviously they're, you could tell, right? Because they'll say like, oh, the prompter told me to do this. Like they're adding this in there. But at some point when they remove these sort of like, I guess. intros into these sequences, it's, I don't know what's going to happen. Like, I genuinely am curious if it's going to eliminate influencers.

No, I won't eliminate it because there's going to be a demand for real. And there's enough people like, you wouldn't watch an AI influencer, would you? No. I wouldn't either. And I know that it wouldn't. So there's a demand. If there's a lot of people like that, we're just never going to consume that. Like, bro, I've seen a video of, I've seen a video of this guy, it's completely AI that I'm reading comments.

and people think it's real they're not even like this is AI it's like a guy like with cops behind him and he's like put the cops like put the phone down put the phone down he's like I can't I can't he keeps saying I can't it was just a prompt yeah and all the comments are like where was this is the guy okay I thought

I was never going to fall for that I saw this video of somebody trying to get on a plane and the kangaroo is holding the plane ticket and they're like you can't bring the kangaroo on the plane I was like that's crazy well you fall you know that and I fell for it no there's no way you think that you thought the kangaroo was real I thought I was like well why they can't let a kangaroo on the plane. Like, you know, I was just like, obviously. And then I read the

comments and after a while, I'm like, oh, this was AI. Like my first- You couldn't tell by it holding the ticket? I thought it was like a goofy moment. I thought it maybe was a skit or like, I did, but my, I did not register that that was AI. I swear. It's scary. I got got. We're all going to get got. You know, it's going to happen where you're scrolling. You're not really paying too much attention. And then you see some, some AI slot. But that's why I think the streaming is so popular and so, so, so relevant. And like, everyone's trying to go towards that. Because obviously, you see the kind of fame. And also the kind of money that the streamers are making now, it's insane.

Where Amber Rose is calling me. Should I pick up or is that? Yeah, I don't say, yeah. Whatever. Hey, Amber. I'm doing the podcast with Brad right now. What up? Okay, guys, we'll have fun.

Okay, text me. I'll see you in a bit. Bye. What's that? I don't worry about it. Random FaceTime from Amber Rose. How was your part with her? Wow, it was good.

She spoke very highly of you. Yeah, she's sick. She's a cool person. Nice person. So that also leads me to one of my next questions is the Internet's curious, and I think people have asked you, I don't know how you really answer it, but is it true that you were dating, yay, his wife's sister? I mean, yeah, she was in Spain and got to hang out with her when I was there.

It's like no secret. Because I saw the McDonald's thing. Everyone saw the McDonald's thing. Yeah, I got her some fries, yeah. No, it's sweet. Yeah, it's nice. So is that what's going on? People are acting like giving fries as proposing.

Okay. fair it wasn't it wasn't a proposal so there was no proposal i did not propose no oh did you try to say hey come i have an apartment in new york and it's the top of the building and i got a balcony like wraps around i should say that the way you say it makes it sound like my life is really cool no it's nice it's got and you got like no boo like bathroom in new york that's crazy pretty sick but you know how much it costs is like this shit is not cheap no not cheap at all it also makes me like you should buy a mansion for that price, bro. You think so? I mean, yeah, give or take $4,000, but

getting to be here is a different experience. Well, what's so different about it here in you in your opinion? Okay, you've been here for like a day. Don't you see the magnetic energy of the city? Like just being on the balcony, expensive cars, buildings. Yeah. Because everything's happening, you know. And especially because I like to stay busy, I don't miss stuff here.

You can't really be lazy here. I notice when I go back to Miami now I get lazy What makes you lazy I'm not sure what it is But the last like three four times I'll do like a stream or two a fly out Do something with Aiden maybe do my own thing Go fresh and fit and then

Or just fit not the other part Yeah what's and I'll go there And then after a day or two I just I get really lethargic And I can't figure out why But here I'm always on go no matter what Why did you have beef with that guy anyways How did that start?

With fresh, obviously. Yeah, it's not, um, everything you're asking me, like I don't want to talk about. I just, I don't even want to, I don't even want to speak about that again,

to be honest. Okay, you know why? You know, you can probably relate. There's certain things that are just like, you are better than talking about it, you know?

It's like there's no, even me saying this is just helping out, you know, all it does is just give it. And then the back and forth, like, Yeah, they get content. It's just like there's no point in even addressing it.

And I have to admit, I have said brought it up a lot because, you know, known some of these people for a long time. Yeah. But at a certain point, you just got to drop it. And that's what sucks about the content creator space is like in the rap industry, like you could drop a disc track and like destroy someone's career. Content creators, you could just do the back and forth thing forever. Yeah.

You know, like you don't have to stand on any principles. You don't need to, you could avoid confrontation. You can just talk shit. And just keep getting views and clicks and all that does is benefit to people who are completely irrelevant without me saying their name. Yeah, I'm just curious, like, I know you don't want to keep talking about it, but like, like, how did it start? Obviously, it's probably like, there's a lot more to it than just, but I just don't know, like, out of left field, why was it even a thing to begin with? Because it's not like you were ever, I never saw you outwardly be like, yo, fuck this guy for any purpose or any reason. It was always sort of cordial.

Yeah. I think with some people, there's longstanding, and not specific to what you're saying, but in general, I think there's like some people that have jealousy and a lot of comparison. There's another guy that you might know. There's a couple that I can think of right now. This pertains to three people. And they're all older than me, but they constantly compare themselves to me. And I could tell that there's like

There's a lot of jealousy there And that's what I've come to terms with You see you can just spawn from that Yeah, I think so I think so Especially when you talk about Like when they categorize you as a red pill Manistphere you're talking about

Like masculine in these topics It's like, oh well I'm You know, then they get all like big bro, low bro on you Yeah So I mean you were you were You don't consider yourself in that space No, I mean, I never really was. It was like, they put me there.

But I've always been a lot more. That's why I moved back to New York. Because for a while, they said I was red pill this. And I was, they tried to say I was a Manistphere person, but it's like, this is where I started. This is where I started. Like making videos in New York, you know, with the string that you could see laying around.

Yeah. Making these detailed vlogs. Yeah. So maybe I'm just going to make it a little uncomfortable. But would that then just say, would you be then because you know everyone goes like oh man this people's biggest beef with you is this one thing but what do you think it is besides stuff that you say or stuff that you've talked about like the reason why you've gotten banned oh like saying grifter that a chance yes i don't think it's a beef because you did

you did you did you were in that lane in a way in the lane of what like i don't even know what it is they say what is what is red pill what is the man is everyone has a different definition of it and they're like you need to just talk about this why like how stupid is that to only talk about one topic over and over and over I guess I guess the perception wise from the audience is you did talk about those things I still do yeah I still do and I also make vlogs I also travel I also do I'm just saying I think from the perspective why even if someone can make those statements about you being you know grifting this or grifting that and like the arguments around it which I think are silly because I know you do a ton of different stuff you always have but

it's because I think you spent a certain amount of time in in that circle of people who all kind of, like, they're proud to label themselves in this sort of manosphere. Yeah, they're all corn balls. Like, that's, there's something of value there. And I think Myron's a great example of somebody who embodies what, you know, a lot of the characteristics that men lack nowadays, you know, loyalty, camaraderie, being a man of your word, this stuff, you know, trying to avoid traps of feminism and not simping for girls.

That stuff is really important. And he characterizes that. The rest of these people, like, I went in there because, like, you know, he would vouch for them. And I'm like, okay, this is, like, interesting. I don't believe in feminism and you're like you believe that you should get a vasectomy

to be a high value man and like that's what they say like I'm the godfather I'm the godfather of the red pill and then here's the list of how to be a high value men number one get a vasectomy it's like no this is not

what the fuck are you talking about and so if you call it out you're like you're betraying us like this is not what I signed up for just because I don't want to give all my money to a girl doesn't mean I need to get a transgender surgery right I get it

So what, so on the allegations of the whole, the whole where people say you're a grifter, why do you, why do you think they say that about you? I think because I do a lot of things. You know, like I just came back from Spain with the A, doing music content, because I make vlogs, because people know me from different things. I'm not in one category. I think people are used to seeing people just go in one lane forever. I find that extremely boring. You know, I'm not like that. It's not like I've changed my mind on some topics, but like not compared to most other people. I don't think so at all. I think I've been very public. And I think I've been very public. And I think. speak a lot so people are used to hearing that, but what do you think you've changed your mind on the most? Since when? In my life? The last few years. I think becoming Muslims the biggest one. That's definitely the biggest

change. Yeah. It's been two and a half years now. Why did you decide to do that? Was it because Andrew Tate was saying he was a Muslim? No, it's like that... I'm trolling you. I know, I'm trolling you. I've always resonated with the most, reading Malcolm X's autobiography. Yeah. A lot of people that that... Even like Dave Chappelle, he signed this

hundred dollar bill here. He became Muslim. Actually? Yeah. Oh, that's a same. So Dave Chappelle signed this. I met him six years ago at a comedy club called the stand. And he wanted to pack of cigarettes. So I wanted to talk to him. So I brought a pack of cigarettes knowing that he was going to ask the crowd for one. I threw it up for him. And then I'm like, oh, can I, I don't know, I think I asked if I can get one back. And then he just, he handed me this bill on the stage. And then, like, gave this, like, speech during the show about kindness and about gestures and stuff. And after the show, there was an after party, signed it to stuff. So there are a lot of people that I, Muhammad Ali became Muslim. And I've noticed people's change and being able to leave

behind a lot of what, a lot of their old life. Like Malcolm X was a, he was a pimp. He was a street pimp. He was, you know, stealing. He was dealing drugs. He went to jail. And then when you saw the transformation after he became Muslim. And as I find that very inspiring. I like to grow. You know, I want to become the highest version of myself. So I mean, my advice to people, who are like afraid to change their mind because they don't want to be criticized. It's like evolution is the is the highest form of being a human. Like we can change our mind. We can grow and it's okay to strive to become better.

You know, don't let people box you in and say you need to be this. You need to get a vasectomy or not a high value man. No, I want to graduate past that. I want to have a family. I want to do the best I can do. Yeah. I mean, yeah, like you say about just being a human, learning things, right? Like that's, that's all this whole experience is about learning and being able to apply it

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not shaking his hand yeah I found it funny that a lot of people are freaking out over kabib saying just in a nice way you're just like I'm respectfully I'm respectfully I'm respectful everyone freaks out speed's like like sticking out his tongue like it's like so crazy When a girl graduates high school at 18 and shows her butthole and only fans, people just move on with their day. Like, that's less crazy in the West than Khabibn't not shaking a woman's hand. People, I was reading comments. Like, it's so disrespectful. It's like, I don't think it is.

I think it's literally a sign of respect. Right. Yeah. It's a sign of respect. And his, look, I mean, maybe we could adopt some of his ideas and culture because what's happening here is not working in the span of a couple years. Like, I saw earlier, remember when Charlie Sheen dropped out of two and a half men and he went, you know, Tiger Blood. Yeah. Remember when that was the craziest news story of 2009?

Yeah, yeah. That would not even make news today. Now a girl could say that she fucked a thousand guys in a day. And then we're like, oh, cool, scroll to the next video. Right, we are getting desensitized because everyone's trying to want up how crazy things are. Tiger Blood, that's nothing. Obama wore a beige suit. And that was like this crazy media frenzy back in, like, 2012.

No one's even going to blink twice at that today. Because we're so used to things being as degenerate and hedonistic as possible. Yeah. Maybe we should be respectful like a beat. Yeah, it's crazy. And so this is back on the Muslim thing a little bit. Did you see Charlie Kirk tweet that Muslim... He said Islam is not compatible with Western society.

You know, if Charlie Kirk said that same tweet and he replaced Islam with another religion, which you know I'm talking about, what would happen? Say he said Judaism is not compatible. It's G's for him. You're good. You're done. He's out of the White House.

He's not going to have a bank account. He's going to lose the social media platforms. He can say Islam is not compatible Western society. Then what is? Well, I'm also curious, what is... What do you think he means specifically when he says it's not? Like, what about it is not? I think he knows he's lying and being deceptive,

and I think he's trying to paint Islam as like a terrorist religion to try to place more blame in Hamas. I think he's just trying to push that narrative again, which failed for a while, where after 9-11, there was an idea that Muslims were terrorists. And now people are like, oh, okay, no, they're not. You know, that doesn't mean you're in a basement with an AK-47, you hate America.

That's nothing to do with the religion. But they want to start pushing that again, and they want to start demonizing. so they're going to start talking about what Charlie Kirk's talking about. Yeah. For what purpose, though? It seems like to distract away

from what Israel's doing because Israel's not compatible with Western society. Israel's this place in the Middle East. You're not speaking about Judaism specifically. I'm saying Israel's not compatible to Western society. And they control Western society.

They run the strings all over America. They have the biggest lobby here. They own all the politicians. We know that. They control that scene, that blackmail operation. they run all of our foreign policy. They get us into wars. This is what is causing all the destruction here.

But don't you think it's, you know, you say Israel is the reason why, but isn't, I mean, it's, we're complicit in me in the fact of like, it's a giant circle. It's not just Israel. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's our government as well that is. Yeah, that's true. I think it's going, it goes like this. It has for so long because they've sunk their fangs in this country for so long.

Like, we claim to be America first. And this is probably why. It's going to be difficult for me to be around the Trump administration, but they say that we should be America first and we're clearly not. There's allegiance, there's an undying allegiance to this place in the Middle East. If we're going to put America first, then why does all of our money go and fund wars in the Middle East? Why? Why are they our greatest ally? I love asking that to people, and I would ask that to Charlie Kirk, but he would never debate anybody who's politically versing this stuff.

Why is Israel our greatest ally? What do they give us? The average American has no idea. But they say like, okay, as soon as you talk about this, people like J.D. Vance will go with Theo Vaughn. Their first tactic is deflecting and talking about Ukraine, Russia. They don't want to talk about this. They just want to keep giving them money. Yeah, well, I mean,

it almost seems as if you start to really go down the road. It's like you're admitting to yourself, as in our self or our government being a part of it all. Because it's not just, and I'm not specifically speaking about a war, right even though you know Afghanistan 20 years there like this is the thing that always hurts me right is we went to Afghanistan under the idea after 9-11 that basically weapons of mass destruction we have to stop all this stuff you know what happened here in New York specifically we go there and now we're there for 20 years in this war then we get back

and I think this is around the time Biden like left billions of dollars there and was like this so stupid and then but then everyone all also Republicans and Democrats were also like, that was a waste of time in a lot of ways. Like we didn't, there was nothing, there was no like democracy. No benefit. There was no benefit. And, but everyone agreed. You know, like both sides are like, we shouldn't have done that.

We don't want wars. No more wars. And the thing that I don't understand is like, why is that different now? That's a good point. I don't know how many times America needs to make this mistake. Vietnam, you could look back at the same. But the thing is, I don't, when we talk about mistakes, it irks me because it. my mind, I'm like, there's no way it's a mistake. It's a, it's a willful decision because of

money. Like, it's a, it's about, it's about this. It's about the, whether it's the lobby and bringing the money back or like the, to the politician, or it's the money going to the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's just like, it just keeps doing this. So it's, it's almost not like, you know, I know everyone goes, it's Israel, right? But it's, it's also just us. It's also how our economy has, sure, has done this. how it's done it like over all these years and it's like we've almost it seems that we've always needed like a scapegoat in order to pursue any of these things like we're not going to say we're the guys who are trying to you know like it's funny like they'll even see memes where

it'll be like uh iceland or greenland found oil and it's like here oh you mean our oil and it's like America coming in with the fighters it's like they're joking about the fact that like and everyone's like yeah and it's like kind of a joke but it's real like we We, it's, you know, for resources, for money, for this continuous exchange of economy. Right. But there's been periods in American history where we weren't completely reliant upon this terrible foreign policy. I think JFK was the perfect example of a president who wanted to remove that loyalty to Israel, where he wanted to stop going into meaningless wars, and look what happened to him. They said after three years. He was the first president to really explain.

And also, he didn't want Israel to be stealing nuclear bombs. He wanted, he was pushing for some form of peace where we could actually put America first. I mean, that's a slogan that we could all get behind. They killed him. So, yeah. And who do you think he'll? I mean, how does that happen? My point is the cycle can be broken.

It's not like we're stuck. Like the way you're describing it is like it's a toxic relationship where you need to be in it forever. I don't think it needs to be that way. And I think a lot of Americans think that too. And that's Stockholm syndrome. We can get out of this. I mean, look, we have, we're protected by two oceans. We will do well in a world war.

Like if we go into Iran, if we fund a war, that's what they want right now. Israel wants to go and nuke Iran and they want America's involvement because we have the best military in the world. We have, we're separated by two oceans. nobody's getting invades us. Canada's north, Mexico, South. They're not going to do shit. We're in a good spot. As long as we could actually break that cycle,

I don't think we could be trapped. I don't think we need to be in this forever. Yeah, but so that's when you start, war and all this stuff aside, then you start talking about why is it happening? And it's like, the thing that I'm like, you always think of this happening and being like, oh, they're just taking our money.

know, politicians are taking our money, right? That's, but the thing that really trips me out is Elon Musk and Trump, right? And we'll get into that conversation about that whole, like, spat they had. But Elon Musk, everyone votes for this, like, not specifically for Elon Musk to come in and do do doze, but everyone's like, yo, that was a part of, like, the campaign trail was like, this guy's going to come in here

and sort of regulate government spending. Yeah, why? Like, he's not even an American. Well, I mean, I think from, the outside perspective, you're, as Americans, you're thinking, this guy is the richest man in the world, he has all these companies, clearly he knows something about business. So people are going to hear that, be like, sick. And that's not even my point. I think it, before you continue, I think that's the Trump effect on America where we just, I know, a lot of people blindly follow

him. If Kamala Harris said, I want this billionaire African to come in in the White House, pretty much be my right hand man, and then change the government spending completely. Everyone would be against it. I don't know. I think, I think, I think, I, I think Elon Musk got to a point and is at a point where he's at a level of success that it wouldn't matter if it was Democrats or Republicans if, because the people wanted this sort of actual reform. They wanted an actual like money reform because it's clear like just on a small scale in a city or in a state, right?

Like people are like, I'm paying all these taxes. In California example, roads are still, like basic shit. I'm not even talking about like, you know, external other countries, other nations, anything. But people are like, where is all this going? That's true. I understand wanting to fix government spending. But when I voted for Trump in 2016, it was to get rid of like the billionaire oligarchs. It was to drain the swamp.

And then Trump is, in a way, is this not a new swamp? Is this not, you're bringing in a billionaire who's, you know, he's one of the richest people in the world, if not the richest. And he clearly wants power. This is the creation of a new DC, a new swamp. And not what we want. I would like less billionaires involved. Yeah, but it's almost like there's an inevitable because like economy of scale

and everything is also just involved with billionaires. So, and again, I think Trump also came in and changed a lot of stuff that also people were like, you know, we're tired of this sort of push of, you know, sexuality on here and there and he came in and changed a lot. I think he did a lot of good things. But the thing that I'm trying to make, the point that I'm trying to make is that everyone universally,

Democrat, Republican, everyone was like pretty much like, damn this dope the idea of someone coming in and changing like the financial movement here is a great idea the thing that i can't get over is that Elon Musk comes in he's got a whole like Twitter feed and he's like all this stuff was fraud all this stuff was bullshit money spent we can't even track where it went we don't know where like very clear money laundering and fraud and and nothing comes of that like nobody gets prosecuted no no no like furthering the issue. And then it's also like it kind of wandered away. And then there's no real change. That's the thing that I'm like, because everyone goes, yes, we need this. And everyone goes,

oh, yes, it's happening. And then he goes, yes, the money sent here was completely not used for anything useful. It's, we're spending money on buildings there, billions of dollars for, for empty buildings. Like, he was saying all these things that were happening. Everyone's like, fuck, that's great. We're finding this. And then it's like, well, we can't figure out who did what with what money and it's like that's the thing and then it kind of gets quiet and I'm just like is everyone forgetting that like that's if that just got quiet it's likely just still happening right now yeah and that's that's the thing you know because you talk about America not needing to be in a position where you know they have to be in this this like hyper military

industrial complex of like money and spent like I've seen like I don't know if I don't know if this is exactly right but I've seen like fucking you know they'll quantify how much it costs to just like buy a missile or even shoot a missile or test a missile and it's like trillions of the crazy money right you know you're bringing up a pattern that i think people at the top are starting to realize where maybe five six decades ago something like government spending and all this corruption there that would be a giant media frenzy everyone would be up in arms about this i think now they're starting to realize after epstein and after seeing what they can get away with that people just don't have enough energy to invest into it.

Like, they can get away with a lot because there's so much corruption that they don't need to hide it anymore. They can tell you and it's out there. You might get mad for a day and then you scroll into the next one. There's no way with everything going on and all the, now we're aware of what's happening in the world, there's no way that you can invest your energy into it to make a change. And so I think that's part of the reason Elon tweeted

that Trump is implicated in the Epstein files Because he kind of knew, like, okay, I'll say it. People will be mad. The tweet will go viral. But notice how, like, yesterday at the fight, everyone's still cheering him on. If you said that Trump was, if Elon Musk said that Trump was implicated in the Epstein files 10 years ago, there's going to be a lot more backlash. There's going to be people who are refusing to vote for him.

There's going to people demanding that he released the files. I think they're realizing the overstimulation of how much we could really even care about. And that they're seeing they can get away with everything. Yeah, I mean, COVID was the thing that really changed it for me, where I was like, and then how you see after years later, they're like, all this stuff, all this stuff. Oh, yeah, that was, I ever mentioned actually did work. And it wasn't just a horsey wear. And they just move on.

And like people got, I got banned on YouTube for COVID for saying, for saying that now you can say this. I said that the vaccine doesn't work. Don't take the vaccine. At the time, they said that was misinformation. This is terrible. You're harming people. They said, you can't meet with your family.

You have to miss funerals. Now you can say that. Now they admit that, but I'm still banned. Which 20, before the internet, that would be like complete. That's what they were afraid of in the 50s with communism, being able to not being able to trust the government, distrust, the fact that they're lying, they're trying to put stuff in your body.

Even like 10 years ago when Alex Jones was popping up, that was the craziest thing ever. And COVID normalized lies. Yeah. Everyone accepts it now. Everyone accepts that there's corruption. Everyone accepts that, you know, there's blackmail. There's the worst things ever.

But they have seen, and COVID allowed it, which is a good point, we have to work. We have to go to, we have to take the kids to school. I can't be, what do you want me to do? You want me to leave the country? Like, I can't, I don't have enough money. I don't have enough energy time to do anything about this. Yeah. It's sad, man.

But that's, you know, I think of all this stuff and I just go like, well, then how does it actually change? Like, what actually changes if people are so fatigued? like how do you actually make the change it's like let's say someone who then they're going to make the change they get up there and then it's like oh well here's some money and that person's like okay well i got to take care of my kids i got to do my shit it's like it's you know that's why always every time i've had these conversations about anything like super uh i don't want to say political but just like divisive the thing that's not going to change i mean maybe at some point when fucking AI takes over, everyone just fucking dominated by computers, it's the human greed.

It doesn't matter if it's like, you know, like, you could take anyone, for example, any, any, let's say there's some kid right now who is saying the conversation, America first, and this is what we're going to do, right? Who's to say when that guy gets to a point where, let's say, politically, maybe he's turning 40 now, maybe he's, he's like, I'm going to run for office. And then he gets into the same system and they're like, hey, We know you feel that way, but like, check this out. And they tempt you with greed?

Yeah, I mean. Because it's human greed at the end of the day. Like, it's, ah. I don't think, I see, that's too Dumer to think that everybody is grossed by greed. I don't think so. I, what I do think the Duma takes is that a lot of these people like Gaddafi, for example, he saw what was happening in Africa. He wanted to establish his own bank, an African bank that was not controlled by Europeans.

And he was assassinated. I think the more Dumer take is that when, because not everyone is, corrupted by greed. When they get to that position, they'll just take you out if you really test the status quo. So what I think the solution is, it's not complete radical change because that's going to, right now it looks like it's impossible. It's going to be a slow, gradual change. And also if enough people realize what's going on, I think quickly the biggest shift in the past year is the distrust that Americans have in Israel. Before October, seventh people really did believe that narrative like this is our greatest ally they did believe like

they see the the star of david next to all these politicians and then they would think that okay this is the homeland now people are seeing what they're doing and then very quickly because of the internet which they're panicking about that's that's definitely what that's a major discussion they're having is how do we regain trust and how do we get the narrative on our side again because too many people are waking up too fast or even jd vance has to respond to the ovan about it where even Even Trump is starting to be like, yeah, this is kind of, I'm going to recognize Palestine, where he looks visibly upset about what's going on. That wasn't supposed to happen so quickly, and that's a product of the internet.

So once America gets to the point, quickly within a year, they're going to have to adapt towards what the people want, which is what we don't want allegiance to a place that's committing genocide. My biggest fear is the AI stuff, man. Like I think you get to a point where already through social media, you know, you talk about bots and all these things that are they either respond or they like make something look more popular than it is right and I'm not talking about bots of viewing on streamers or whatever but you know on Twitter or just engagement overall about like yeah like we agree we agree

like just people is kind of like because a lot of people they see comments excuse me they they look at content and they go to comments and they kind of see what people are saying and and a lot of times I feel like they will adopt the sort of comments reaction to the thing it changes your perception that you think the video is good if the comments are good have you noticed that half of tweets now you read the replies like half of them are AI I don't know people talk about that but like there'll be a video like one year anniversary since brad slaps stable Ronaldo and there'll be a reply like wow Brad slapping Ronaldo it's been a year wonder how this panned out and it's like this is not a human typing that this is an AI that watched a video and saw the year thing and that computed a response to generate traffic for that new page and it's like 1,000 followers yeah you know like masks some Indian guys Here's the scary part. When they get a hold on AI as like a whole and just this, this evolution of technology. And we just talked about earlier about like the AI videos and influencers being, you know,

essentially recreated or just created. At what point, like, could you just press a button and go, everyone's kind of saying this now. And the thing is, like, who's controlling all these companies? Like, who's going to control? It's the same thing. Yeah. This is why they, Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, have you seen them start saying? Oh, I, I saw the Joe Rogan interview.

I didn't see that yet. What do you say? You didn't watch the Cash Patel one? What do you say? Well, this is just specifically, might be off the topic you were talking about, but he was talking about the Epstein thing and the fact that, like, they have, now they have footage. Exactly. That ties into what you're saying. So the narrative in 2017, 2018 was that the cameras broke.

So Epstein, he killed himself in jail, but magically all the security guards, la, la, la, la, were turned over here or they were sleeping or whatever are you fucking i don't know i'm just saying what i read i know that's what they said yeah just like covid they're able to change the story so quickly now and then they act like we didn't even see what happened they said the cameras are off and the guards are sleeping now damn bonjino is saying oh we found camera footage seven years later some hard drive whoa there's the file that we missed for the most important prisoner in the past hundred years right when ai becomes good enough to where you could actually fake that footage.

Yeah. Now the government is going to be able to lie about prison. They can, they can, you don't think they're using AI to their advantage? Well, that's, that's,

that's, that's, that's, so you talk about us getting to a point of being able to really sort of change or affect real change. But then, this is coming pretty quickly up the pipeline, and it's like,

it's an interesting concept. Like, there was, there was also like a weird thing. And again, and it's to the point where even when I speak this to you, I'm like, Well, did what I say...

I know the Joe Rogan interview was real because I saw that, right? Then there's another video of Pam Bondi saying, oh, we have thousands of hours of this footage with children. But in the same interview with Joe Rogan, separate interview, this is like she was standing somewhere

during the press release. I think this might have been like... I might have been time ago. Yeah. Oh, no, excuse me. It was like three days before Cash Patel went on and did the interview with Joe Rogan. She said we have thousands of hours

of this. of basically crimes against children he said in the same interview we don't there's no he said if I if I had footage why would I not put it out there right while she said a couple days prior that there was footage so there's

trying both stories simultaneously I have no idea they're just going to keep lying about the well the okay fuck all the lies then the thing that is undisputable is that this Maxwell lady who was literally the person who was involved in everything Galane Maxwell was the bottom bitch was and she's she's in prison now

and like when in my mind I go okay I think about law and order I think about the court system you're in prison now because you were involved in these crimes well to be involved in these crimes I mean you have to have awareness of the criminals in the crimes right how is that not divulged further like how are they not walk further down that line to be like because it implicates most of people in DC right now that's why like that's the that's the answer that that I know you know it most of the country. Like, that's how they got American politicians to have undying allegiance to Israel was this blackmail operation. I don't know if these, if you know this,

maybe you do, but Galane Maxwell, her father was literally Mossad. Robert Maxwell was a massad agent for Israel. And Jeffrey Epstein's, his biggest financier, was Les Wexner. So these are, these are undisputable. These are facts. Like this is not a conspiracy theory. Not some AI guy was like, yo, Sneiko, check this out. No, no, no, no. Les Wexner, the founder of Victoria's Secret, funded Jeffrey Episput. Epstein. People talk about Epstein all the time. He's a billionaire philanthropist. What did he do? What did Jeffrey Epstein do? Trust me. I've thought of it. He didn't do anything. He didn't have a... He made a lot of money somehow.

He had no education. Yes, because he was financed by the richest Zionists in the world. He was a... Les Wexer was in Ohio, richest American Zionists. He gave him all of his money. And then here's all these connections. And then from there, that's where he was able to have the blackmail operation. But people like talk about him and the newspapers in New York talked about him like he was this Trump-S figure. But he had no business. He had no expertise. He was only good at socializing. His entire thing was being able to honeypot rich people. He said he was a financier, right?

That Les Wexner was the financier. I thought they said Epstein was also a financier. No, he didn't, he was just financed by Les Wexen, he didn't do anything. So you have those two undeniable facts, and you're going to be like, this guy wasn't an Israeli agent, clearly. Like right now, Dan Bongino, these people, Cash Patel, the narrative is they're trying to say, like, oh, he was funded by some country in the Middle East. The Qataris, and we're not going to release the FC Fowl because they're the Saudi. and the Qataris are going to be implicated. No, this is who did it.

Like, Jeffrey Epstein was a Zionist. He was a Jewish Zionist. Everyone else around his team. He was literally married, or Delane Maxwell was, essentially his wife, is the daughter, family of the people that founded Israel. Like, not only was he just a Mossade agent, these were terrorists that were instrumental

in the founding of Israel and bombing up hospitals, bombing banks. None of this is undisputed. Are you going to tell me, after hearing these facts, you think Jeffrey F. You think Jeffrey F.C. work for Saudi for guitar? Like, why is this, people are like,

well, we need to look at the files. Look at this information, and it's clear. So you think it's just people just legitimately being disingenuous? Yes, 100%. And that's why Dan Bonjino was like lead Rumble streamer. Maybe you met him at UFC or stuff. Like, he's like, oh, some country in the Middle East.

Yeah, which one? Which country? Was it Yemen? Like, did Jeffrey have seen work for Morocco? Just say it. I mean, it's so obvious if you look at this, but... Well, it's interesting because I think I've seen footage of Dan himself saying, like, make sure you keep an eye on that before he got involved,

that it's probably not what they say it is, and then now he's involved saying, no, he killed himself. I don't know, man. I just see it all, and I'm just like, like you said, you could look at literal things that are, even what someone else said, And then, again, things can change

or your opinion can change based on more information you have. But it's almost gone to the point of like just total mass. There's so much, there's so many sort of fingers pointing where it's like, man, what's going on? What do you mean? Like, how do we? There's so many, there's so many fingers pointing in that direction that it's like, what are, what's, what's the holdup?

Yeah. Well, because they own, they own everyone in power. So they're doing their best job right now. I think Americans are realizing this is the biggest cover-up of all time. But it's not a critical time with the Internet, with AI, where they're trying to backtrack now. They saw what they're able to do with COVID and change the narrative. But too many people are aware of this of the first instance

where he supposedly killed himself. They're not going to be able to cover up without, you know, talking over themselves and changing their minds and grifting. It's funny. They're going to change every other minute there's going to be a new narrative. people need to realize that this guy did not kill himself and he was an agent of Israel. That's an undeniable fact. Well, there wasn't there that there was a report, like some scientists, like a third party came in

and checked on how Epstein himself actually died. And they were saying how the rope wasn't in the sort of upward fashion of like a hanging would have been, like with the body weight. It was more of a backwards fashion of like someone was behind him sort of. Yeah. And, like, I just saw Joe tell cash and he's like, oh, well, I haven't seen that report. And I'm like, wait. The head of the FBI hasn't seen that report.

Yeah. And so you see it all. And I'm just like, at what point, I don't know, it's almost like, how many fires could they walk into it before they're like, oh. It's getting bad. See, and I think one of the. And the thing is, it's not even, it's not, they're like real things. And then they say something. And then they're, like, that was his, he said that on the pod, like, his real reaction.

It's just a weird position to go, okay, like you said, you're the director of the FBI, and you didn't see this thing that Joe Rogan saw. No, and I see that, and I'm like, well, like, did Joe Rogan see something that wasn't real? Or did Cash just willfully say, like, yo, I didn't see it. And I'm just like, man. Because, like, the point is, you just can't, it's almost like you can't make that up. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying.

I think they're realizing that they can't keep trying to cover it up. So they're just trying to lie to our faces now and just expose it and just be up front about it. That's why you see the Elon tweet saying, just get it out there and let people be comfortable with the idea that this happened. Cash Patel can just be comfortable with, oh, he died, he didn't die, the camera's on camera. just let it sit and it's working because that should be nationwide uproar and I like that Joe Rogan's waking up because that that's one of the biggest turns where you know that like Joe Rogan's definitely having this conversation off the podcast every day right now he had he had Ian Carroll on yeah and he's realizing what happened with 9-11 and JFK and and with

Epstein day I think Ian Carroll went on there and did a great job explaining Epstein's to Israel, this is something that Joe Logan was kind of avoiding for a long time, but now it's like, he's starting to, there's no way he's not connecting the dots as well. And he has probably the most powerful voice in the country when it comes to information. Undeniable.

I just wonder, it's like, they're not going to try to silence Joe Rogan, huh? I think he keys out of point if you can. He's too big. Yeah, he's too big. See, smaller guys, like when I was canceled, I was like the perfect person to ban. because I was just big enough to signal to everybody else that you've got to be careful,

but not big enough to start an uproar. If they tried to take down Joe Rogan's podcast, there's going to be headaches that they've got to deal with. You can ban Sneko. Yeah. And you'll send a message, but no one's going to riot. No one's going to riot. Yeah, you think people would riot for Joe?

People would be like, yo, this is something's up. People would, there would be a massive shift. There would be a massive shift in public consciousness. It's interesting. man joe's done a crazy job man fuck impressive so okay besides all this kind of shit

yeah what do you think you have the most conversations about in your life right now you just said like joe be having this conversation you think he would be having this conversation what do you talk about the most it's not politics red pill a lot of film

and i mean the past five weeks in spain a lot of it was art with yay ironically like i know yay is you know put himself in a political spot. We mostly talked about music, movies, life, family, the industry, like more digestible subjects. You've had one-on-one conversations with him. Oh, yeah, every day.

Yeah. So what is he like personally as opposed to public perception? People ask me that a lot about celebrities I've met, and I always thought they were exactly like how I thought they were going to be. I wasn't surprised with anybody, like, ultra-mega-famous that I've met. I'm like, if you really know, because I mean, there's a, in anybody's content, there's a bit of performance, but there's also the real in there. I think people who don't do it, they're like, well, is this all the show? Is this?

It's a bit of both, but when you know how to do it, you get to see what the real is. And so I felt like even before, I got to know him really while I live with them for over a month. In Spain. In Spain, yeah. I felt like I knew him already from his interviews and his talking and his music. It's like, this is, I've known this guy for forever. And we didn't fire you this time. Luckily, I didn't get exiled.

That was like, I was on edge about that the entire time. I was like, I just, every conversation, everything I did, that's why I was working so hard and not want to get fired. Because that was three, when that happened three years ago, that bummed me out so much. Yeah. So, so. It's a birthday, by the way. Happy birthday. Oh, happy birthday.

Happy birthday. What does he talk about the most? I mean, he talks about everything. It's like, it's just not, it's not one subject, but I think we personally would talk about art the most. And I mean, like architecture or art, the physical pieces. He's really into architecture. I think a lot of people don't know that. He's designing this thing called Jerome, like new living conditions.

It's just, I can't even describe it properly, but he's making like affordable housing. I think it's going to be free where people can live in these things called drones where there's. The circular thing. Yeah. I've seen some of those things. It looks really cool. His ideas of architecture are incredible. So, I mean, we would talk about everything, you know.

That's like, what the guy like that is, his brain is in so many different places at once. It's not like, can I get one? Yeah. It's not like one particular subject. Okay, one sec. What flavor is this? Citrus.

Brad's giving me drugs. You're already smoking a cigarette. It's nicotine. Oh, this is good. Yeah. Was six? Yeah, they don't. Six or three?

Nine. Nine? You'll be all right. You'll be good, you'll be good. You spoke cigarettes. You spoke cigarettes. You're fine, bro. Marble lights like a white mom.

You're fine. We get you some water. Suburban mom cigarettes. This is, bro, this is cocaine. You're putting it in a new. No, it's not. You're chilling. Okay.

You're chilling, I swear. Okay. So you're in Spain. What's the setup like? It looked, because I'm not going to lie, because I saw just random, you know, pictures and shit.

It looked like you were in like a lavish villa. Yeah. That's what it looked like. I know. It was an extremely lavish villa. And then people... Okay, so it's exactly that. It was dope. Yeah, it was exactly that.

And then people would be like, you're a slave. You're like, you're in a Spanish prison. And I was like, okay, this is kind of a sick villa with dope people and the best artists of all time and security and chefs. Pretty nice prison, you know. You don't have to pay for food or anything? No. Foods provided for the team. Do you think he picked you because he knew your past?

Really? This guy. I got to troll you a little bit. I got it. Sorry. Yeah. I got it. Because I heard about he, he willfully said it.

Yeah, there's an album called Cuck. It's not finished yet, but it was leaked. Don't listen to the league. It's not even finished, though. But it's very good. So that's not why he had you there. No, he wanted me to be the album cover. Okay, okay, okay.

So what was your actual job with Ye? I would say, I don't want to say too much because, like, we had a disagreement three years ago when that conversation came up. Got it. I've said this story before, so I'll say it again. I said I wanted to be, he's like, what can you do? What's your job title?

I'm like, creative director. He's that, that's me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that was a whole, a whole thing. So this time, I don't think it was described, but I mean, I was editing videos. I was filming a lot. I was. You were filming for him.

Filming for him. Filming for him. And a lot of like other miscellaneous stuff too. Like when he was, when he released his album, you know, I was, some people, I, I, I was helping with the track list. I don't want to say that because it's his album. But, I mean, that was on stream. That's why I'm saying it.

So, like, a little, you know, that there's even organization for the drone people, overlooking and, you know, giving some feedback. I would say, I would just say, like, filmer. I'm going to keep it simple. Yeah, yeah, it's fair. But it was a lot of editing, too. So you were actually editing videos. Did you shoot any videos yourself?

shot a lot. Yeah, I posted all of them. I posted some he posted and most of them I posted. And he would retweet or put in his Instagram. I shot and edited maybe I think eight videos, eight or nine videos when I was out there. I think like in total 15, some of the best stuff like is not getting released. Maybe not for years or maybe ever. That's how you. I feel like that's how he is. And it's so good. It's like I know that it doesn't fit his vision right now. But as a fan, the stuff I have is just absolutely like Netflix-level documentary, you know. And it's just never going to see a light of day. And it's like a little bittersweet.

But it's kind of cool that I have, it's like I have my own documentary just for me. You never release that. Oh, not if he doesn't, no, not without is okay. Yeah. Damn. So what do you think the, the most misunderstood thing about Yeh is based on personal experience? that, okay, people say that it's hate speech, anti-Semitism, this stuff. And I see it as like, he sees the world as his family.

And I think a lot of people can resonate that if you listen to his music and you've seen him over the years, like you feel like you know this guy. That's why people, you know, the stuff he says, no other musician can say and they get canceled for because EA is purely authentic. You know, he's a very, you've seen his career. Yeah. He's a purely authentic, genuine person. and he doesn't lie.

Like, people could say a lot of things about him, but you can't call yea a liar. You know, he's always tried to say what's true, what he feels, and what's real, and it doesn't come from a malicious place. So when he's lashing out and saying crazy things, it's like an argument with the family. You know, when you have those arguments with family

at Thanksgiving dinner or something or Christmas or on the phone, there's really passionate arguments that you see in romantic movies where, like, the husband punches the wall. She's crying and like, that's what it's like for yay in the world. So when he is betrayed by the world, when they turn his back on him, when the industry, everyone that he's developed, they all turn on him. When they take his kids away from him, they try to call him crazy. They put him in the hospital because he wears a MAGA hat. And then every other rapper starts wearing a MAGA hat.

That's why he was hospitalized at his last concert. At the end of the St. Pablo tour, he was saying, I would have voted for Trump. And they put him in the hospital. And now Sexy Red wears the MAGA hat. Every rapper is doing it. he did it and he's seeing that stuff will make you go crazy and so he's responding like look what you did to me and so he's back and forth oh you don't want me to say i'm going to say this now what it's it's a fight between it's an argument and what people don't understand is it's hate comes from

a place of love not that he's hateful he spreads love speech but that anger can only happen from someone who's truly loving so i i think the world should be more appreciative of people like that Because instead of pretending to be genuine, pretending like everything's okay, he's saying, no, this is not okay. Well, I don't know. This is how you made me feel. I wouldn't call it pretending to be genuine. It's instead of virtue signaling. I don't even think virtue signaling is the perfect way to put it, but, you know, keeping it all in.

He uses Twitter, Twitter's therapeutic to him. The speeches that he goes on is, like, letting, saying something, there's a lot of things I've said on your podcast, too, and on my career. Like, you know, the, the cuck thing that was uncomfortable. That was therapeutic because I'm like, okay, I hated this. It was making me uncomfortable. I'm going to just say it because I'm going to let it out. I'm going to now I'm not going to be holding this thing that makes me uncomfortable anymore. The same reason he made that song called Cousins.

We're talking about sucking his cousin's dick when he was a kid. Yeah. That has got to be who else is talking like anybody else. You probably should just like, you know, people told them take that to the grave. But why? You're going to take that information to the grave because you're afraid of how the world is going to perceive you. He got past that fear. He's going to be better than that fear. He's just going to be, this is who I am. This is what happened. Doesn't define me. And just, I don't need to say everything

that makes me look like the perfect human. Trump is different. I, you know, I love Trump for a lot of reasons, but he's like gold signs. The Trump buildings are like around here. Trump, all caps. You know, golden toilet, perfect family, big suit, standing like this strong, powerful all the time. He never loses. He even says in the 80s, like, he will, never admit defeat even when he lost against Biden and i said that they rigged the election against him and i got banned for election misinformation he never admitted defeat and you see that cultivates a certain reaction from his base now they all see him as like a wwe superstar a superhero literally yeah you can see him those fans like literally worshiping him yeah he's like the complete opposite

he's like this is these are my flaws this is everything this is good and bad these are the highs and lows and that's what being a human is you know humans go through these things and not everything's and not all of it is beautiful and magnificent, but in a way, it is because that's what the human experience is like. And so I think that the fact that we have somebody like that alive today, we should be a little more appreciative. Yeah. I wonder where, I mean, that guy will always be good,

but I wonder where he continues to go, because I know one of the last things he sort of tweeted was like, I'm not anti-Semitic anymore. I love everybody. Which is great. Yeah, he's dropping that. He's not, and he put out like the song, how he put a clean version,

Hallelujah. I don't know if you heard that. So it's good to see he's got to, it feels like he, from my perspective, I don't want to speak for him. But it's like, he let it out. It was therapeutic. He, you know, had the argument. I just had an argument with a family member too. And it was stuff that was built up for a while. And afterwards, I felt really good, you know, to just let it out. After pretending like I didn't feel this way, it sometimes it's good to just say it and see, see what happens.

Oh, bro. I mean, that's the only way you actually move through things in your life, whoever you are, whoever is listening. like the more you hold on to things and the more you like ruminate about things in your life, especially things that are, you know, deeply emotional, it keeps you like sort of mentally in that space or in that age and it doesn't allow you to grow. And I'm not saying like it's, you know, it's going to allow you to get older and if you stay there, it's good because you stay younger. But I'm saying like it allows you to really grow as a human when you can actually have those

uncomfortable conversations with yourself, but also with people that maybe you're involved in those conversation in those situations with, right? And I think more people should should not be afraid of that. I think more people should go towards those things because I think a lot of people are feeling stuck and can feel stuck in their life. And 99% of time it has to do with something like that, something traumatic in your life, some point in your life or something you're holding on to. And if you don't speak it, I'm not saying you got to go on Twitter and fucking air out your mom for some shit, but like go to that person and say, hey, this is, this is where I'm at. This is what it made me feel then. This is how I feel now. And bro, the biggest way,

in your life could be lifted. But so many people are afraid to do that. And I think, I truly believe that, I've talked about this kind of stuff before, but I believe that social media has made people even more afraid to go towards those moments because they think that their life should be perfect, in a sense, because of all the examples

that they see of successful people. And most examples, other than Yay, obviously talking about, you know, the cousin stuff, all the sort of crazy stuff that he's done. or said. More examples are people of like, my life's perfect. I don't lose. Look at my cars. Look at my stuff. And I think people see that and they go, damn, I don't have that. I should have that. And they have resentment towards that. So then in their personal life, they don't want to ever, it's not even admitting defeat, but it's like it's surrendering to the fact that this is where I'm at

in my life. These are the things that sort of has shaped me. And I think you never fully get to the shape that you're supposed to get to. If you don't go towards that and say, where am I at now? Like, who am I now? Because everything before this moment, we can't change it. We can't make it better. The only way you make it better is you're able to assess and look at, okay, how did this make me feel? Why did I react this way?

What was my doing in this? How do I avoid doing this in the future? But you never get those gems if you don't go towards it. People are afraid to go towards it because I think they're, they think they're supposed to look special or better or more unique than someone else. Which comes from a place of insecurity, trying to project this perfect image is because you're afraid of people's perceptions of you. So it's actually shows strength to be vulnerable because you're not afraid and you're

willing to be criticized. You're willing to accept the judgment and have those uncomfortable conversations. And obviously, most people shouldn't do it. I don't think, but I think most people shouldn't do what? Not everybody should be like, hey, I suck my cousin's dick. Like most people are not going to be able to like, if you have a body of work that transcends that, that. then you can get around that

but seeing other people do it helps them get over that and maybe do it privately and have those conversations in their own life. I'm not saying everything needs to be out there on the internet. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying like those conversations need to be had and not avoid it. That's the key.

Like you did, I mean, bro, I've told you this before but the fact that you talked about the shit that you've done or you went through or like you, you know, experiment with whatever you want to call it. And I remember like you, it's the most hate, everyone's just every time comment blah blah blah same shit and i remember thinking like damn i this guy because no one else said it no one else leaked a video like you went out there and said hey i did this it wasn't exposed it was me saying it was just me exactly and and i remember

being like why why number one first i was like why the fuck you do that because i would never do that but then i was also like why like why at the time were you able to say that not feel a type of way about it. Did you think that you weren't going to get that reaction? No, I knew. I knew it was going to happen. Yeah. Maybe not to the level, but right. Also, I kind of like the challenge sometimes of giving people ammunition because I'm so good at what I do that like giving someone like, okay, like have this. It's like it lets people have something, you know, because successful, tall, good looking, talented, creative, you know, like I'm not like banned and still around. I'm that guy.

So it's like, okay, you guys can have this. You guys could have this to feel better. But you weren't banned then. You were talking in retrospect. No, but even back then, I was like, man, I'm so dope. Like, you guys got to have something. Like, it's just too easy. You gave him something.

It's too easy. Yeah, I like the challenge a little bit. I just gave him the hair. That's, that's, that's, they know about the hair. Yeah. I don't really mind it, though. Yeah, it's kind of for me, it's like, it's actually similar to that now. Because now I've let go of it, but it's also.

so like now I keep it going because so bald is your cock yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and now I just don't I like it doesn't bother me my hair used to really bother me yeah um obviously I'm getting old and I don't care as much I cared for a long time I mean it started when I was like 23 and I was like what the fuck but um I think now it's also like I know that it's a conversation piece so people be like baldy and I'll still get people send me memes of like this lion without its hair yeah fuck It's just funny at this point And I'll respond I'll be like where'd you get this photo of me

And he'll be like ah I love you This is funny dude Well it's been a year since the Ron thing I want to ask you about that Yeah go ahead How have you What's your reaction to response A year since slapping him

For taking your hat Well I lost the sponsorship from it Damn Yeah I think he lost the sponsorship from it He lost a Porsche deal Or something like that But yeah

It was just a silly moment Like it was a moment where I was, again, at the time, I was like, I never met the guy, I didn't know anything about him. I was just like, why is the streamer feel like he can just touch me? And, you know, it was just that was like a real reaction. Yeah. It was like, and I, you know, if you watch the video, I tried to like get it. And I was like, I'm not getting, I'm asking him nicely twice. And I was just like, yeah, well, I'm not going to let this person disrespect me. Because I, because I didn't know that there was anything tied to the whole reason why he was even trolling me

was the whole song thing. But I didn't know anything about the song. What song? Payphone. So Lacey was like, yo, put on this song, right? He was like, play this song. Can you play the ox because of my gym?

Because they were like, yo, can we come stream? I was like, absolutely. And he's like, can you play this song? And I was like, yeah, sure. And I played the song. And Ron, Stable Ronaldo, thought that I knew about the troll.

That's why I played the song. But it's because Lacey asked me to. And so he thought it was a reaction that I was like, ha-ha, I'm going to play the song because he had like a whole, his cuck moment was the pay-few. phone song like losing like something with his girl like he lost his girl and like he sang the

song or someone someone made fun he was getting made fun of for that song again i don't even know all the lore but that was like a pain moment for him and he kind of tried to take it out on me like i'm gonna get you back but i had no idea about any of the lore okay so i was just reacting to a just a random person taking my hat and being like why what are you doing yeah and knowing it was live it was like you're not just gonna just disrespect me like that what the fuck that's what it was so looking back it's like, yeah. Well, people in the comments say, I revived his career. You think so? I don't think so. I don't think so. He was already kind of doing this. Yeah, he was on an upward trajectory. But people like, then they like to troll him for that, you know. I think it's,

I just think it's funny. Yeah. I can slap someone's career back. You want me to slap you right now? Take my hat. Take my hat. Take my hat. Take my hat. I'll take your fucking hat, bro. I'll take your fucking hat. I will actually take your hat right now. I swear to God. You're not going to take my hat. I'll slap this shit out of you too. I'm going to, I'm going to slap. I'm not going to slap you. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I just, you got me flashbacks in the gym. You get a PTSD right now. I want to knock his other tooth out. That was, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. That was a friendly thing. It was completely friendly. Yeah, it was. Well, from my end, I don't know about your end.

Bro, it was my end, too. I don't know if that was friendly. No, no, no. You know, this motherfucker that's for the record called me. He's on the way to my gym. He's like, bro, we should box. I was like, we shouldn't box. We should not do that. And I already said no. And then you got there again in person. You were like live. You're like, nah, we should. Well, people don't know is because right before, I think someone pressured me to box my cameraman.

And I boxed him. And I think I hit him a couple times. And it's just like, oh, okay. Like, I got the payback for your cameraman. You got the payback of the cameraman, yeah. Okay, that's why. He asked to fight both. Everyone is always fighting me and they're asking.

Yeah. They're asking. Like, he wanted to, he was holding the camera. Then he wanted to fight. And then that was right after. And then that was right after we did it. No, that was right before. And then you did it again, and didn't you fight him right after me in the gym?

No, right before. Oh. Yeah. Oh, and then you were like, now you. I think you said now you. No, I never said now me. I think you said now you. I know I was avoiding it because I was avoiding it since the fucking SUV.

You were pulling up with FaceTime. I was like, no, no, no, we shouldn't do that. And then you fought him and then you were on camera like, me and you. And I was like, God damn it, bro. I even said on live. No, we shouldn't do this. Of course, that's all cut out. Just me punching you in the face.

I was like, no, you're doing. But you see me, I'm wearing jeans. I'm like, hey, you know, like, I'm in a good mood. I was in, like, I grabbed your hat. I was in a good mood, too. That was a vibe, bro. Yeah. That was fun.

Yeah, that was a good time. It was a great moment. But did Sean, did Strickland ask you to fight, or did you ask Strickland to fight? See, he asked me to fight. And that's what I hate when people are like, oh, you called him out. You were talking shit. I was never talking shit. I went up to him at Power Slap, and I'm like, hey, man, congrats you UFC champ.

Who the fuck are you? Like, I was nice and respectful the whole time. Yeah, it was live. I'm like, hey, how are you doing, Sean? Like, he's like, are you fucking influencer? Like, let's fight. And we get in there. He couldn't knock me out.

Then he says he respects me right afterwards. Like, oh, you took the shots, blah, blah, blah. He fought other people. He fought more. He kept training after you're a little. Yeah, so did I. I was training too. But right after he's like, yeah, he said, like, oh, you get respect.

Now he's going around, and I think he regrets the fact that he couldn't drop an influencer as a UFC champ, 70 pounds. You're 100 pounds more. He's 70 pounds more. He couldn't drop me. And he's saying, like, now he's going around talking shit. It's like, bro, I was never, like, never disrespectful to you. You asked me to fight.

I went in there. I did what I was supposed to do. At least as a fighter, you should respect the fact that I got in there. And now he's still talking shit. That's a perfect example of somebody with a lot of unrealized problems, a guy who needs to, where he's trying to put on this, like, tough guy thing all the time and trying to portray this image. Like, dude, this is not you. Like, show the real you.

And I could tell the guy's hurting. You know, the fact that he's talking the way he does is this not a guy who's all the way resolved in his head. Did you have any other conversation with him about anything else like that? Like, not obviously, you're not going to talk about his trauma and his problems, but I never said disrespectful things. I never brought up, like, I know what you're talking about. I never said that stuff.

Never said it. Which is hypocritical for him to, like, go around and talk about, you know, things that, you know, I'm not, like, excited about from my past. but, you know, you know damn well that I could do the same thing, and I'm not going to do that because I know how much that would hurt him, right? Yeah.

I don't, and I don't like to hurt people. So you didn't say any of that shit? No, never. Yeah. But he actually does want to hurt people. And it's because he's a hurt, hurt people, hurt people. He has a lot of unresolved problems. And he could actually show a good example.

Like somebody who clearly is that traumatized could show an example and be like, this is what happened. You know, I'm not proud of this. And kind of own it the same way that Ye was open about what happened with him. I mean, he, didn't he go on Theo's podcast and talk about some of this stuff? Yeah, and he hated the reaction and then pretty much just, like, dodges it forever.

I'm not even talking about his child. I'm just saying, like, that guy should try to be more whole because he's not. So round two? Is there a round two coming? Like, what's going on here? I mean, inevitably, he's going to drop you this time, bro. He's going to try everything. He tried, he, people say, like, oh, he went 80%, 70%.

He tried his absolute best. He told me he did. no he told you that he said so he said like right after the fight he he he tried to is that on live too yeah it's on the stream he like oh he did yes he himself said i tried yes okay and you've seen him fight other people too he tries to hurt people as much as he can and i think i think it's kind of ironic that now like he talks so much shit about influencers and YouTubers that's where his career's going like you're hanging out with streamers all the time you think you're better than them but this is what you're going to end up doing because how much more time than this

career does he have left i see you know yeah i mean the the i i kind of understand the whole i understand the whole streamer and youtube or hate but at the same time i don't because there's there's so many examples of other even great fighters that were able to leverage social media in a way that like made them even larger than life i think they know that i mean there was a there was something he said that i thought was really interesting um i think pretty recently he said like something about how much fighters make you don't make shit in the UFC make 50,000 some some some type of money pays low and uh I wish I could I wish I had the exact I don't want to fuck it up um basically saying how you don't make much money in

the UFC and but then there's a clip of him and on Aiden Singh saying like his network's probably like one gonna be eight well or it's going to be eight million he wants he wants eight mil he It doesn't have any more. The thing that I don't, I'm like, I look at, I'm like, it's interesting because the UFC shade's funny, because I get it, like, should fighters make more money in some cases, probably? Should every single fighter make more money? I don't know if that's right to say, right? But Sean, a handful of other fighters, were also able to leverage a network that's so massive that's able to allow them to make so much more money. I mean, look at Sugar Sean, for example.

like he's he's someone who was able to become so much of a celebrity outside of the UFC that even if he stopped fighting he would be good he's good yeah you know so it's always funny when I see the fighters talk about fighter pay and like I could understand why some people think there should be some sort of like minimum pay but at the same time it's like it's also become such a massive platform for you to build your whole brand but then that requires a whole other set of skills you know and the skills of like a YouTuber or a streamer that it's funny to like shit on like what those people do. It's like you should be doing this. Yeah, it's this weird hierarchy where you think you're better than that. But are you? Also, this is like one of the best ways to become an independent CEO. Yeah. Yeah, I just, shit, it's raining.

Fuck. It's some New York shit. Yeah, I know New York all the time. I feel like, does it rain a lot out here like that? Yeah, this year it's been raining a shit ton. But yeah, I don't, I just, I don't get the, you know, I don't get the UFC hate, like the fighter pay hate because like there's, There's just so many fighters that have, like, have become massive celebrities from it, too, where it's like...

Yeah, you should be using social media. But that's a good, like, that's a giant leverage system. They should be using it, yeah. So, but then to shit on it, it's just also kind of interesting. But then also doing it while shitting on it is also kind of interesting. It makes no sense. Yeah. It is what it.

Dude, you should round two, dude. I think you can get them. If you had a gun. you definitely need a gun there's no point for the round too like everything happened that was going to happen right yeah he's not going to like what you're saying now what I said is the truth

yeah it's what it is are there any other UFC fighters that like you have have sparred with or worked with yeah Spartanet Diaz oh like a couple days after that I've Marab worked around with him Jake Shields former UFC fighter I know a lot of UFC fighters

The Basharad brothers Yeah I'm supposed to go out to Dagestan With someone that's supposed to happen Next month You're gonna go stream that? Hopefully yeah That's the plan

Like the Khabib's camp Yeah I mean That would be fucking huge Yeah Mohammed Mokai of him me up Said he wants to go there And I mean all those Dagestan fighters know each other I'm looking forward to that That would be fucking cool

Nate Diaz how was meeting Nate Diaz Because that guy's, like, one of the chillest fucking people I've ever met. He's super fun to hang out with. I would pull up to Stockton, genuine guy, you know, not owned by anybody. He's like the quintessential. I think he buys the whole idea of, like, a UFC fighter, like the not give a fuck, slapping people in public, showing people out in front of the bar. He's a real, like a street dude.

I wish there was more fighters like him. The UFC's not, like the UFC kind of sucks recently. Why? I love the UFC, but too many fighters are getting too much money's involved. Nate Diaz is doing it just because he wants to beat bitches up. He's like, I'm that guy. It's not about money. He's just like, I'm better than you.

I could beat you up. Other people, it's like, I don't know, I think McGregor kind of created a bubble where UFC did peak. And now we're living in the post peak era where people are seeing how much money's involved, what you can get from it. You know, how much should I be fighting for? Before then, before too much publicity and money was in UFC, it was more like, I don't like you and I want to beat you up, right?

McGregor-Kabeeb, you see all Diaz's fights, it had that hype and everything. Now, like, they'll get up to the press conference, I don't want to be disrespectful, fight or pay, I'm not going to fight you, I'm going to go to this division, I'm going to refuse to fight for years. So you think there was more real beef back then? Yeah, more real beef and also people were fighting more for respect and less for career and money. They're seeing what McGregor has done, and so they're trying to recreate that, and it's disingenuine.

I see. But there is also has to be an evolution of things where I think, because you talk about respect, but there is respect and legacy and like people who, like for example,

Khabibibh, excuse me, Marab just won. I think he's 13 fights in a row. Yeah. And there's legacy there because the only other fighters who have done that stuff

is like John Jones, I think Kabev, there's a few other people in there. So it's like, there is respect, there is legacy there. And I think there are still fighters that fight for that.

But not that those super mega fights like there were. Like there were. We should have seen, Islam Makachev, Ilya. That was the mega fight that the UFC needed and it's not happening. You know, we should see John Jones, Tom Aspinall, why is it not happening?

All these mismatches people change. Well, John Jones recently talking about fighting Inganu. I don't know. Why is he not fighting Ospinol? Like, that doesn't make sense. I love John Jones. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. But he's saying that he's a lot, oh, that are different generations. Dude, you're 37, he's 32. He fought DC when he was like early

20s, DC was almost 40. John Joseph thought Steepet, Stipe was like 42 years old and John Jones was 36. Like, this is a matchup that should happen. Tom Asperl is the number one challenger. John Jones is still carrying the belt with the challenger waiting right now, and for no reason they're not fighting. Like, we need to see more of these fights

and instead of seeing people, like, sit on the belt forever, holding up the division. Why is Mavsar Ivloev not fighting Alexander Volkanowski? The reason Mavsar is not getting the title shot is because they don't want too many Muslim fighters. They don't want more people from Russia and, like, the mountains, the region. Do you think they actually think like that? Absolutely.

Mavsar, he's completely undefeated. He's been everyone in his, division. Volkanovsky's like, I want to fight him. Mavsar's like, I want to fight Volkanovsky, and they don't do the matchup because they don't want Mavsar as a champion. Because they don't want another Muslim. How many are there right now? The lightweight champion is Muslim. Like, there's dominating every weight division. Do you think it's the Muslim thing? Do you think it's, it's, uh, because it's less profitable. They need American stars. They need English speaking stars. They don't want all the people like, you know,

who pray religiously. And because they, they've, I don't know if it has to do with religion. It's not, not with religion, but it's less marketable to have these guys, like to have, they, They see guys like Mofsar, like, as similar to Akelev, who just beat Pereira. Pereira is more marketable. They have the Brazilian market. It's more different. I see. Monsar should have the title shot.

He's not only because of that. Yeah, I get it. I mean, at the end of the day, it's also a business. You also want to. And that's the problem with U.S.C. It's because it's become too business-oriented. There's too much money involved to really put on the best fights. So hopefully there's a resurgence because I love the UFC.

I love MMA. right now it's in a brutal spot it sucks right now uh i love the u s i get it i can see from both perspectives um it's just like how how would you find that balance otherwise because you do have to make business decisions that has a fucking business like you can't just you know if you're like yeah if you're genuinely being like yo who would be more marketer obviously they they have the best fighters as well but it's just like you still have to make those sort of back-end room meetings and be like oh what's good what's also going to be best for the sport I think all sports are like that.

Yeah, but every sport. Right now, that's why it sucks is that it's been too much. So hopefully the, I don't see. I think the John Jones Aspenol won, too, because I think just, obviously I don't know John Jones person. I never had this conversation with him. I'd love to interview him. But I think it's more so like it was like the person that was sort of,

yo, I want to fight you for the longest. And he's like, I don't, I don't need to fight you. So then give up the bell. I think he said he, I think he tweeted recently, like, I don't give a fuck, he'll strip me. Like, I don't think he cares. Like, I don't think he cares. He cares. You think so?

Yeah. Why not want his belt? I think he wants to fight Ghanu for real. I think that'd be an insane fight. I wonder if they could pull that back and have that happen at the UFC. But they should be, my point of, they should be forced to fight the top contenders or just get rid of your belt. Don't hold everybody else up in the division. I see what you're saying.

Oswald's waiting. There's no reason. Why, like, just because he doesn't feel like fighting the top contender, then you're not the real champ, right? I guess, I guess. I think he's, I think he's thinking about, like, overall legacy. Legacy. Like what Inganu has done and where in Ghana was, because Ngano was there.

He's not even in the UFC right now. Well, exactly, but it's like, but he was in that position. Yeah, but, but look, if he's the champ, the top contender in your division, you should fight him to remain champ. It's that simple. Yeah. That's how sports work. Like, that's how you gain your champ spot.

I think, though, they always wanted that fight to happen. And then obviously, Inganu made his choices to get a bunch of money in boxing. But that fight, like, I think if there's no way if Ngano was still in the UFC, he would, John Jones wouldn't have taken that fight. Engano should fight the winner of Ospinall Jones, because these are the top two contenders right now. I mean, bro, listen, I'm like the biggest John Jones fan, which is probably why I'm, like, defending him a little bit. I would love to see both those fights.

Definitely should get Ospinall first. Yeah. Poor guys, like wasting his prime sitting around because John Jones is. doesn't want to fight him. That's like a, he's wasting his career. How do you think that fight goes? That suck, bro. Fuck. I would like to see it. I think Osmondal wins, to be honest with you. I think Osmondal wins. No.

I bet I bet on John Jones any day. No, Aspinall is fucking, he's definitely like probably one of the bigger, if not the biggest threat. But what about, what about Ingano? Do you think he's as big of his threat? Less. I think he's less of a threat. He's been boxing for years. Yeah. All right. He's older. How old is he in Ghana? Angano's like 38? Fair. I mean, everyone's also thinking, yeah, they're also...

Because for John Jones to lose, he's got to also think about his legacy. Like, you don't want to lose. It's like, think of Mayweather. Yeah, but then get rid of your champ belt, then they're like, relinquish the belt if you don't want to lose. Fair point. That's not how it works. Fair point, fair point.

Did you see the BJJ thing they just released, the UFC? No. Yeah, I was like, tripping. And they have like this like a, it almost looks like a moat. Yeah, some BJJ think. I think it's like they released it like brand new today. But so let's go back to social media and sort of what you're doing. You stream a lot with Aiden still, right?

Has your conversation around politics, has it weakened or, or not I wouldn't say strengthen but has it has it weakened that relationship like to be able to not not at all that's why aiden's a real friend of mine is that even though we may disagree about things and i could be a brand risk it's like he's still like this my friend you know we talk all the time and he's a real genuine person so i don't think we're ever gonna you know we go through ups and downs and our in our friendship which is difficult when you're content creator talking online there's so much at play reputation so many people involved but The reason we're friends is that, like, we know that it's deeper than content, and we can disagree and still get along.

Yeah. Yeah. I always wonder, I just always wonder, like, does he get pushed back? Of course he does. Yeah. Yeah, of course he does all the time. He tells me, like, the Boca Raton Jews, like, say, like, why are you friends with this guy all the time? But, I mean, same thing. People ask me, like, why are you friends with this degenerate who's defending, blah, blah, blah.

Like, he's my friend. Yeah. And that's okay. Like, it's okay to have friends with people you disagree with. Like, for example, I go on runs with Casey Nystad, and I'm sure, like, we definitely disagree about some stuff. But I like that we don't need to always talk about it. Like, we can just go on a run, talk about vlogs, talk about stuff we have in common, and not let political disagreements divide us. Yeah, I think that's how it should be.

I know. But the past couple of years since George Floyd COVID, so many people lost friendships over that stuff. It's like, dude, a lot of these people are good people, and you shouldn't miss out on those relationships because of what they say in the news. Yeah. That's, dude, it's like, this would move. Me and my mom, bro. Like, I got to tell her, stop, stop sending me stuff that's political. Like, I don't want to have political conversations with you. But I agree. I think, but I also think that's, that's also by design. I think the divisiveness of like just all of this and people having to pick sides is by design. I think it's to keep people just, again, picking sides. But it's sad. Divide and conquer. Because life is not that, like, linear. It's just not like that. It's like there's so many other levels to it where it's like, yeah. Someone can believe something, I can not believe it. It doesn't mean like I hate this person or I can't have a conversation with this person or that's the thing that I don't like about the internet. Like it gets, and that's honestly the worst part about this job too. Like where the situations where I'm like, oh, is someone going to think differently about me if I have this conversation?

But I'm like, man, I'm just having a conversation. Like if I'm talking about something, it'd be different if I was like saying like, you know, things that were inciting violence and this is, you know, we should do this. So we, that's a fucking problem. But just to talk and have conversation about thing, I just, it's weird that there's even times when I'm like, like, even you right now, I'm like putting you on the show. And then I'm like, I already have an idea. Like, is someone going to hit me and be like,

yo, why did you do this? And I'm like, well, they are. Well, I just want to, I, I, there's, I just like to have conversations about shit. Like, I, that's how you learn. It's very un-American that we have to have those thoughts. And that we let the brands and sponsorships get in the way and dictate who you're allowed to. interact with.

Yeah. It just feels unhuman, not even just un-American. It's like... Very true. That's how have people got to the point of like the world that is today.

It's not from just being like, this is the only thing I believe and this is the only thing that's true and this is the only thing that's real. That's just not even human, dude. That's just the weirdest concept. I'll never get it. But I just...

I don't know. I hope someday it does change. I really do genuinely. Because... It is now. More people... I think J.D. Vance going Theo Vaughn's a good example of

that to people that he knew that was going to come up. Deauvon said what he said, the most divisive subject, and they can't avoid it. It's like too many people are talking about it to avoid it now. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Let's talk about the Elon and Trump thing a little bit. So when you saw the whole tweet, we talked about it a little bit, but let's like, let's go a little deeper. Do you think, because when I first saw it, I was like, huh, my head I go, well, but this is

the same guy who, you know, he's been around for quite some time, and then all a sudden he's saying this like the whole epstein you know thing i'm like well it seems like maybe you have that information you didn't say it till right now for some reason and i just can't understand the full reason like is it is it another form of diversion or distraction you know what you think of it was planned out i don't think so i was talking about that last i i really think that was elon's real feeling and emotion yeah but i think people are seeing how silly that is, because if Trump is really on the Epstein files, why would you bring your kids around someone who was on the Epson Island?

Yeah. You know, you brought your family there. You worked with them. You said he's the best guy ever. You went to all his speeches. You're next to him in the White House. And now that you disagree with him, now he's on the Epsine files. Okay, if that was really a major concern of yours, you would have avoided him at all costs.

Right. And then there is, like, on the other side of it is, is, I think they were saying Trump was saying the reason why is because he didn't get the EV, like these credits or these contracts, and it's like, but then there's also other footage of them talking about it and him, I think side by side being like knowing that he wasn't going to get those things and not caring. You know what I'm saying? Like not making a problem.

So there's like both sides. It's like, what, like, I'm just like, what's the point? I think it was a power thing. I think I don't think it was planned. I think Elon is thinking, okay, I'm the richest guy in the world. I'm better than you. And he slowly realized that. You think it's like pure ego.

That power beats money every time. He may be the richest person in the world, but, you know, You can't buy the power that Trump has. The connections he has, the influence that he has. You can't buy his supporter base. You can't buy the new codes. Money goes so far, but connections and power always wins. And look, he deleted the tweets.

Power one. And then I just, it's like, everyone, does everyone just forget about it? You know? Because everyone was like, yeah, he's got to come out and prove and say this. And it's like, like, what is he going to say? I don't know how he's not about it. They had already come out time ago that he was, he was, like, I don't know, he's, like, using this guy's jets. So, like, there's, there's obviously pictures of them together being friends, like, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he did nefarious shit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, there had already been proof that. I mean, this picture with Elon Musk and Jolay Maxwell. Right. So, I mean, everyone knows. Everyone's seen the pictures of Trump and Epstein. They were friends. So.

It's just interesting, man. I'm just like, why now? Why, why in this moment where they're like, yo, fuck it? You don't think it was, like, not diversion, no plan. it was just the guy was just fucking mad about something. I think he was just crashing out on Twitter, yeah. Well, did you see the thing where they said that he fought the treasurer? Yeah, and that's why he had the black guy like he was dressed.

I kind of believe that. You believe that? I kind of believe that. You think it was like around the same time where he's like. Yeah, I think it was the same crash out. Shout out to Elon getting me on band on Twitter. Big fan. Love X.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what he did with X is, I think fucking crucial, crucial. Because everything else was definitely, everything else is definitely more orchestrated, controlled. whatever you want to call it. Personal life. Are you, what? Okay. No, yeah.

Can I ask you about that? Yeah, sure. Okay. How old are you now? 26. Yeah. Do you see yourself, I mean, would you like to settle down? Do you want to have a family?

I thought I would be married and have kids by now. I know you probably want to, right? But I keep delaying it. And I think right now, like, I'm so career focused. I'm putting it off for now for a couple of years. I'll probably tell him 30. I don't see it as something immediate. But I always thought that I would have kids by 25,

but it's not the plan that God had for me. Yeah, I thought that I was going to have kids somewhere early 30s. Shit, bro. Now, now you're 48. No, no, no, no, no. Happy birthday, Brad. Fuck you. 40 years old, no, no, no, I'm 27, 28.

Slapping Ronaldo at 48. Yeah, no, I'm 28. Bro, by the way, everyone says he was a kid. The guy was fucking 20 or 21. But it looks like a kid at the video. Yeah, I know. It's fun. Funny thing was just Lacey, like, back then when he was a lot fatter.

like just like not know what he was like it's pretty funny yeah it was that was the funniest part a whole other meme so so you don't work towards that in your life right now i mean i i do of course i do everything i do is kind of working towards that position but it's not something i'm going to rush to do yeah what do you think you look for if if if you are looking what do you think you look for in women i mean i i changed that i guess i griff that a lot too that's normal though i i griff That's a normal grift of like Where you're on your life and what's important Thank you, yeah

I mean people act like they don't change their mind Sometimes I think that I want an American woman Then I'm like, oh no Then I wanted to be foreign Because I don't want to be feminist indoctrinated Passport bro Not kind of And then I'm like okay

I relate more to Westernize people You know like okay I want a virgin All right, it's the case you got a couple bodies You know I think just right now It's a girl that I get along with You know I think a lot of the other stuff

and preconceived ideas like the it's like looking at a video game character like these are her stats yeah and I'd rather just look at like you know how we get along yeah definitely as I've gotten older man it's like I for sure throughout my 20s was was way more focused on what someone looked like and as you get older you're like man like can I actually have a good conversation with this person yeah that's that's the thing that I certainly look for that's what I grift a lot is like do I want to be able to talk to her that much Sometimes the thing I don't, you know, I'm busy. I'm talking all the time.

I don't. But I do enjoy good conversations with the woman that I'm with. Yeah. I think it should be someone that challenges you in a way mentally that makes you think about the things that you're already thinking about from a different perspective. And gives you good feedback and, like that's, those are the best relations I've had. They're able to give good analysis and make you, you know, consider what you're doing. Yes.

That's exactly what I look for now. That's what makes you better. I think so. Because otherwise it's just like, you know, man, decision, everything. which is going to be good in a lot of ways, and it's paid off a lot of ways for me in my life, but there's definitely other things that I'm like, man, I need a little bit of help, you know?

I need a little bit of, uh, you need a queen to run that empire. Yeah. Yeah. So there's no one, there's no one you're serious, so it's not, yay's wife's sisters.

Yeah, I knew that. As soon as you said personal life, that's why I laughed because I knew that's where. What's your name? I don't know what you're talking about. You know her name. It's starting to rain.

Sensori, what's her last, Sensori? Angelica. Is it Angelica? I think it is. Can you look that up? Is it Angelica? Bianca's sister's name.

It's Angelica, right? I think. I might be getting this wrong. I thought it was just because I was like, I saw the tweets and, and let me check myself. That's a nice name. Angelica. Interesting. Oh, it is.

It is. It is Angelica. I was right. Yeah. That is the sister, yeah. Oh, got it. You're good. You're good.

You're an expert. I love that. Not my first rodeo, Brad. Oh, my God. So, okay. You have any questions for me? You always have good questions. You are really good at speaking.

You're good at all this kind of shit. So I value. I think the question that I have for you is stuff that we talk about privately, you know, so maybe I'll save that for off the podcast. That's fair. Is there anything else you want to discuss? No, thanks for coming. Yeah.

Glad you're in New York. We're supposed to go around a little bit today. Pick the rain, picked up a little bit of, I think we should. I'm down. I'm just excited for the future. Do you have a bike I could ride? I ride city bikes. Okay.

Those are fun. You just dock them anywhere. There's electric city bikes too. Cool. Well, that's what we're going to go fucking do then. Let's go run it. That's what I want to do. Thank you for coming on.

I appreciate it. Thanks for having me, man. It's always a pleasure. And, yeah, subscribe to the channel every Tuesday. I love you guys. Obviously, Sneakos on Party now. getting paid handsomely he wouldn't tell me how much but that's okay i have equity in the website so all streamers you're building up platforms

you should own part of the website like look how much i did for rumble i didn't have any equity that made no sense i think i made it for gen z i brought all these people on made it not a right-wing conspiracy website for a while so streamers should own their platforms that they're building you think they'll offer that to more people party sure yeah if the creator's worthwhile yeah brad's eyes lit up we could talk about that after that's interesting It's very interesting. But you see they can even compete at this, like the Twitch and Kick Things.

Absolutely, they already are competing. We had a party just had its biggest month in May. And that was a website that Ye was live on. Oh, shit. Twitch is not getting Yay. Rumble's not getting Yay. No, he did get academics, but no, there wasn't a stream, so. Yeah.

Well, I'm interested. We'll talk about it. I'm definitely going to try to take live streaming serious this year. That's my goal this year. Outside of the podcast stuff is taking that more serious. It's the future. Yeah, even you think even desktop stuff or is it just because it seems like it's all IRL shit now I think it's a mix of everything yeah you got it you got to do it all okay all right thank you

well for real thanks a lot um and uh yeah we're gonna ride bikes in New York I love you guys cool