RAWTALK - SNEAKO SPEAKS HIS TRUTH & CALLS OUT KSI & LOGAN

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to start this podcast off just by saying if I sound a little rusty, I sound a little silly or dumb. I slept zero hours, like zero minutes last night. No, it's a great excuse. It's a great excuse. But I'm not even kidding about that. But anyways, I, this is a, I tweeted this and you got a crazy amount of love on Twitter people. And since then, I'm banned on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Yeah. I was like wondering, I forgot that I had your number. I'm like, how am I going to contact you about where to go? Yeah. Because what? So let's start there. Like, why are you? You ban on Twitter. Let's start right there. Because honestly, I'm here in Twitter ban, and I'm like, that's the last place in the world. I think anyone's ever been reported to be banned because it's like. There's just an active agenda against me right now. I don't think it's just YouTube and the social media platforms. I think it's the leftists who just don't like what I talk about. They're mass supporting everything. I have a strike on my channel at the same time. Twitter got suspended. Instagram's probably next. I don't know. I'm just, I got to start preparing for the fact that they are actively trying to silence everything that I talk about. Yeah. And I got to be ready for that. I got banned on Twitter for saying, I challenge Lassanabi.
Starting point is 00:01:00 to a fight and I said I'm going to break your face and that's like violent conduct but I thought that a UFC fighters talk about that all the time I'm break your I'm gonna fuck you up I guess maybe it's like context maybe it's in context where they're like oh well they're like I said I'm gonna I challenge you to a boxing match I weigh 160 you weigh two 30 I'm still gonna break your face oh okay so that's that seems very reasonable so I mean spend it on Twitter permanently permanently permanently so who's that yeah this is a weird time man like before we get into this. I just want to say, like, it's really cool to meet you in person. I've been watching you since, like, eighth grade since middle school. That's fucking crazy. No, dead ass. I used
Starting point is 00:01:35 so that you inspired me to go to the gym, like, to first get into the gym. Like, I want, genuinely I want to say thank you. I appreciate it, man. Thank you. I used to watch bro science life back in the day. Shout out Damazetti. Yeah. And I remember the first time you had a collab on that channel. I remember when you popped in and then he was doing the flies in front of you. I was like, who's this guy. And then I started watching you start your gym. Yeah. I've been watching your vlogs for a long time. Like every, not just like the comedy skits,
Starting point is 00:01:59 but just seeing everything and it's, it's dope. I appreciate it. See you like start meeting the milk boys and everything. Yeah. And then to be here is like, just, just wanted to say that before.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, no, I appreciate it, man. You got my attention, man, with the things that you, the things that you've been doing. I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:12 I think along the, the line of when I started to see a bunch of tape content pop up, uh, on TikTok, I started to see a bunch of your content pop up around the same time. Because you'd have a lot. I don't know if you had conversations with the guy,
Starting point is 00:02:23 you have a content with the guy, but you would seem to talk similar, obviously from a different perspective, your own. And I found out, obviously, you're 23. But I guess my question to you is like, what is your, what's your purpose in all of this? Like, why are you doing what you do? I want to seek truth through funny. I always found that my favorite comedians, there was a level of truth to it. My favorite comedians are not just like being funny, being a clown, making dick jokes. They're, the reason that, the stuff that I laugh at the most is stuff that's true. Like, it's funny because it's true. So my favorites are like Louis CK, Dave Chappelle, Patrice O'Neill. Those people are Bill Burr. The funniest bits and like the bits that I think about the most
Starting point is 00:03:00 are just reveal a truth about the world. And in a way, the joke connects it and it can kind of debunk a whole topic with one joke. I've always loved that the most. Or like George Carlin's social commentary through comedy. Yeah. So that's what I want to do. I want to entertain people, but I want to follow truth to get there. So what got you thinking about comedy but through truth? Like what made you start to think that way? Because I was just because of what you saw. all? Yeah. Yeah, just watching stand-up when I was like 10 and just like, whoa, this is dope. Like a guy, just one guy alone on the stage, being able to get ahead of the whole audience, stuff like that. There's just the whole, yeah, stand-up comedy in general just
Starting point is 00:03:34 fell in like that. Why do you think, why do you think you like just a human, you think you seek truth? Because that's a different, like comedy is one thing, right? But like trying to seek truth through comedy is a completely different thing. Because that's what's always the funniest thing is what's true. Like when you're sitting around with the group of people and then there's tension or weird whatever diffuses the tension is just someone cracking a joke like if someone's self-esteem gets too high someone brings it down ass stupid ha ha everyone because it's bringing it's grounding it brings you back to reality so do you feel like so do you feel like you feel like you're completely grounded do you feel like there's no you're not yeah no and that's what i people talk
Starting point is 00:04:09 about me like they compare me to tate a lot i've never called myself an alpha male like i'm here saying that you inspire me a lot to get into the gym like you you help motivate me a lot and i've never like put up tried to put up that image like i'm not a professional fighter like i'm a YouTuber You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know everything. I'm a young guy. I've grown up on YouTube. I've been doing YouTube for nine years.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't try to put up that image. I'm trying to figure out in a roundabout way, like, where you come from, like, where you started, like, who you are and, like, why you're doing the things you're doing. So I'm just asking you questions that I'm trying to like. That's just always what's mattered to me the most. Yeah. Like, I just don't care about anything else besides that. But how did you develop that?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Because here's the thing, right? Now, we know nowadays. You can't just say anything. Obviously, we started this talking about you got banned on the. Twitter for freedom of speech is dead so yeah like what makes you still go okay 23 year old right successful on youtube successful on twitch right no yeah i stream on youtube on my second channel so you stream on twitch no i'm youtube you stream on youtube my bad well i can't right now i have a strike for election misinformation so you've always streamed on youtube so i just started two months
Starting point is 00:05:10 ago that's crazy i just started i grew 600 000 subscribers this summer it's just from streaming so my second channel this is what this is where i'm getting out with this question sorry let me me rephrase this is you you have success you're 23 years old you've obviously watched content creators that you really thoroughly enjoy like people who've inspired you in different avenues of your life you know that you can make uh an incredible living from youtube right until i get banned yeah okay yeah but this is what i'm saying so this one i'm getting at you know that that's possible though so why am i seeking truth instead of just playing the game kind of like i i want to know like i don't know sometimes i feel like there's different ways to go about the truth seeking you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:05:43 there's different conversations you could have like even when we talk about tate like there's there's different things he could have done that could have allowed him to and and and this is just my perspective he don't say he don't give a fuck it doesn't matter he just wanted to do it because he's already successful prior and all his reasons why but there are always different ways to go about things that can help people see truth from a different perspective or in a different lens than what they're normally used to the reason why I say this because we're talking earlier so you're saying simplify it dumb it down so that you don't get banned not necessarily no it's it's about I think it's about the way you seek it right so what I was telling you telling you earlier like you know
Starting point is 00:06:16 everyone that we have this like idea in our world today our society everyone's like freedom of speech and left side and right side and like these people are in power or or these people are and or you know these voices are being swayed left spectrum right spectrum right and then we we want to fight for the side that we feel like hey this is right and and the other side wants to fight for the side that they feel like hey this is right okay and and i said that to you earlier about fighting fighting is the reason why we're here why why we're getting to these points of like, that guy's gone, this guy's gone, right? Because everyone's thinking, okay, that side has the more power right now.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So if you're not on that side, then you're gone. So the reason why I brought up, it sounds weird, but surrendering and not fighting. And you don't surrender fully, right? Because if you talk about like, I mean, shit, I even saw this on your header, you're Bruce Lee, right? Yeah. Right? The idea of being combative and like having to fight sometimes creates just more and more fights. So I'm not saying you surrender and give up and you don't speak your mind or you don't speak your points, but you think of different ways through it.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You have to navigate around the system. Exactly. You've got to play the rules of the game. But even when you do that, they still will try to cancel you for anything. They try to say that I'm harassing people. So who's saying this? It's just like everybody. There's a new exposed.
Starting point is 00:07:33 There's a new video trying to cancel me every single day. And it gets repetitive at this point. People call me up like, why don't you react to this? I'm like, you all sound the same. Do you think so? So here's my question. And do you think though you're, because like I'm trying to put myself in your position, right? I've, when I've had the most friction in my life, there was moments where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:50 why is this happening to me? Who's doing this? Why are people doing this? I know who's doing it. I don't know. I know. But what I'm telling you is this. When I'm telling you this, I used to feel like, why is this happening to me? Why is someone doing this to me? You victimize yourself? Essentially, yeah, in a sense. But then I realize, wait, there are things that I'm saying. There are things that I'm doing. There are, there are, there is stuff that I'm throwing out there that that I allow. What did you ever say? What did you ever say to, I hear this a lot from creators who are successful eventually they go like well I was kind of an asshole I was kind of being a dick I'm a bad person I get why no but then what did you do tell no no I mean no okay so that's fair now you're
Starting point is 00:08:24 a good point I've never actually done anything really negative or bad to anyone but I think there can be situations in which like I've been for sure attacked from people for for their own clout reasons to get views to get to get to get to stir up drama like even told by those people in person like yo man like this is kind of why I did it sorry like you were the bigger person like it's just it's it's a part of the game i'm not saying i'm just like hey i need to just go get fucked and like not stand up for myself and not say anything but i've realized like sometimes fighting doesn't get you any farther like it doesn't get you actually further because it doesn't get you farther but maybe it gets the truth a little further but see so truth is truth is in this
Starting point is 00:09:02 case subjective right truth is in this case also perspective the thing that i i wanted to bring up and i really wanted to talk to you about specifically and this is not me trying to say you're right or wrong at all. But the idea to get people like you and everyone else listening to think, almost encourage the listeners of the viewers just to think more critically. That's what I do. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not saying you don't. That's why I encourage long form content. I say people always clip up stuff out of context and they try to make it look bad. I tell people all the time, think for yourself because all you are brainwashed. People look at TikTok now and their attention spans are so bad. They get manipulated. They get swayed. And they flip like that. I tell people all the time to think
Starting point is 00:09:37 to think critically. So the question, so this is the thing, right? The question is, How do you think we, because it's one thing to say, and I was, I was literally up all night thinking about this last night. It's one thing to say people should think more critically. Because I think that is the root issue in all of this. We talk about like the cancellation stuff, the issues in like free speech. People are manipulated with their emotions now. You can manipulate it with fear and empathy. It's very easy to.
Starting point is 00:10:00 The whole, the reason that people got so mad of you for keeping your gym open was like, he's killing my grandma. But it's just a gym. Your grandma's not in Bradley Martin's gym that makes no sense. Yeah, I mean, there's so many reasons around that one. Yeah, it's, it's, so this is what I'm saying. So how do you think as creators and influences? Because you have a lot of influence and your influence is growing, right? Which is why people, yeah, for now.
Starting point is 00:10:21 That's why people attack you, right? And because you, you do dance the line of like, oh, should he say that? Should he say that? And people are making judgments on you for it. The question is the thing I think we should teach the audience more and more, which is so fucking important is critical thinking. So obviously we know that now, right? How do you encourage, how do you teach someone to actually
Starting point is 00:10:40 critically think. And because the question I was trying to, I was racking my brain about this last night. I was like, what actually is critically thinking? Like, how do you teach someone to think critically? Yeah. Like, what do you think about that? Like, how do you think you could teach someone to think more critically? You just tell them. I don't know, you have to analyze the situation. Don't get manipulated based off one clip. Yeah. You have to watch multiple perspectives. You need to get out of your, the little bubble you're in. I think just acknowledging the fact that you, that most people are brainwashed immediately is the best way to start thinking critically. The fact that you just listen to one side and you believe one side.
Starting point is 00:11:10 you're polarized just from that but I don't think you can like you know we could tell people think critically now you can't force someone's brain to work the way it should work and they don't want to people don't have the attention spans like even most people will not watch this whole podcast they'll see like a two minute clip on Twitter or on TikTok or something like that and now they'll make a whole judgment off of the whole show and they don't know what we're talking about or the context and that happens a lot so I think happens it's more often than people actually watch the whole show oh I think it I think it happens yeah I think it happens I mean I can look at watch time and videos and podcasts and be like most people watched 20 minutes 19 minutes of this and it was an hour
Starting point is 00:11:45 long podcast right and so they kind of went and found the parts that they wanted to see like that's typical on youtube like if you have a video that's an hour long people maybe your average watch time is like 23 minutes just to give people reference points of like this what i'm saying to be true 23 minutes 30 minutes maybe 50 minutes like if you're like it's a super compact video if that that's where i'm getting at is is how do you think we encourage and teach people to think more critically other than just saying it because both sides can say the same thing if we talk about like a perspective, right? If I say, hey, I believe this versus you believe that.
Starting point is 00:12:14 You're wrong and I'm right. And here's why. And here's on my points. I think the way to critically think and to encourage critically thinking, like for people to, it's hard. But like, you have to be willing to not accept the other perspective to be true. But you have to be willing to put yourself. Yeah. Be wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Put yourself in those shoes and go, what does this look like? What does this really feel like? Why? Why? If you put yourself in that other person's shoes, like in this case, like this like, what's his name? I don't say a fucking guy. Anyways, you put yourself in his shoes and be like, okay, why is this guy? I know exactly why he's doing that because they are told I'm on the right side of history.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'm saving people. I'm right. They're wrong. They don't even know. They don't even think about the possibility that they could be wrong. They don't even think about how they're like praying on someone's downfall by trying to get me banned. They don't think about like how this is affecting me. They don't think about like maybe if they disagree that they could try to communicate.
Starting point is 00:13:09 there's no more communication and if it's coming from the left we have prioritized your people's feelings over truth if you feel harassed if you feel bad you can delete their channel you can you can silence them it's like it's it's child behavior and we've encouraged it and every single social media platform has encouraged it too and i i think i genuinely think it's almost too it's too late for for most people in gen z i think there needs to be a new platform i think there's there needs to be a whole new system because even the way i hear you talk about it And now, like, you know, sometimes I realize, like, I've made some mistakes and blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:42 People doing that over and over and over again is how we got to this point. People can't handle it. They can't hear. They cannot disagree. Maybe the best way to encourage critical thinking is to be okay with disagreeing. But because even conversations like this are so rare. You know how rare it is for people to even be like mentally capable of having a disagreement now? People get offended so quickly.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And then they'll start attacking. They'll start. They don't even know how to challenge. their own beliefs. People are so stuck in their ways. I'm saying that we really need to start a new platform because Facebook Twitter, they've all encouraged it. And I'm going to say this again. We were talking about the impulsive, impulsive podcast that just came out. Everybody like that who's like, well, this was like a bad opinion and you shouldn't say certain things are all people who have been canceled. And so now they say that because they want to keep their platforms.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Every single one, I talk to the Jadion, you probably know him, talking on a regular basis when I stream. He got canceled on Twitch and all the time. He's like, well, I shouldn't have said that. those bad uh kSI same thing he's been like challenging me to a fight because i call them out yeah ks i because he's got way more experience he would win but i called him out because he said thank god andrew tate got banned i'm like what the fuck are you talking about bro you're literally thank god someone got banned praying on someone's downfall i called you out your name is kSI knowledge strength integrity that's what his name stands for where's the integrity you know what he said after people called him out for that uh i was trolling i copy and pasted it from ticot i i wasn't i was
Starting point is 00:15:05 just joking you weren't joking you weren't joking you weren't You were following the mob. Logan Paul, same thing. I don't want to platform Tate by even getting in the ring with him is platforming him. And it's furthering dangerous hate speech. Like, shut the fuck up. You both got canceled and now you're afraid. Logan Paul fame.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Everybody knows what happened. But this is what happens. Like when they get deleted, they have an option. They can either double down and stay and just admit that, okay, I was just trying to make people laugh. Or they can simp for the powers that be. They can be like, okay, I'll be a slave to you now. I don't want to get banned again. I want to eat.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I want to stay in your platform. I'll do as, as you say. Yeah. But I don't ever want to, I want to start a new platform. I want to bring freedom of speech back because it's completely gone. And every one of these influencers that people look up to, they don't really have any morals. They don't even, I'm not sure how much of, like, you fuck with a lot of these people,
Starting point is 00:15:53 but they promote porn on every single social media app on every single one. Like, only fans are being shilled like to, it's really bad for, and we're kind of out of the bubble. Like, bro, this is a nice ass penthouse and everything. So you don't realize, like, but one in three men have not had sex or virgins right now in the west one and three guys have not had sex in your or virgins is it like jacob no i'm fuddling you dog you're my boy so we don't think about that a lot because the influencer like the bubble that you're in like you know crypto people millionaires and everything
Starting point is 00:16:20 you're a millionaire millionaire steves a millionaire everything like that you get used to this lifestyle but as we keep going up like the amount of people they get sadder and sadder so we keep getting richer off of that that mental health decline yeah and they put they all promote it they promoted on the trending page they'll put like side men tinder i've always calling that video out that's like something i disagree with ms i haven't even seen i don't even know what you're talking about side men tinder like they do these videos where they bring girls on and they can swipe left and right in real life it's basically tinder in real life and they brought a bunch of porn stars on um and all after the video like during the video like they'll show their boobies and stuff like that they have
Starting point is 00:16:53 sidemen plus where you can go and like kids who watch it 12 year olds genuinely it's on trending so you know who's watching it you can go click on the plus page and go see titties you can hey here's all these porn stars that you haven't seen before or go to their page. Wait, that's a real thing? Yeah, sideman plus. So, okay. They all do, a lot of people are not aware of it.
Starting point is 00:17:10 So you're telling me that, because I don't know, I didn't know at all about this. You're telling me that they have a thing that like sells. Sounds like you're plugging it. No, no, I'm not trying to plug it. You, you, no, I'm really trying to understand this. There's, listen, I'm not saying right or wrong here, but I'm trying to understand the perspective.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I'm trying to understand the perspective. They sell, uh, explicit content. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I think a lot of the people doing it, um, don't have bad intentions. They don't really think about the repercussions of it. They're just trying to get a bag. So I don't want to put blame on a lot of these people,
Starting point is 00:17:39 but it's really hurting the minds of young men and women. Because the women who do it, they have a false sense of reality about what to expect in relationships and the transactional part of it. They don't know how to even respect a man after that because they've been dealing with all these lame-ass simps all day. And the men, they replace having a real relationship with a screen. So many of them.
Starting point is 00:18:00 They don't know what it's like to go talk to a girl. They don't have to go, instead of like taking the effort and risking rejection you could just pay for it yeah it's making everybody sadder and that they're we're i think it's an active agenda from the people at the top like the people selling the point they don't realize i think it's an active agenda to separate the family and to that's why there's so many that's why i left new york there's so many they thems walking around they're so like the LGBTQ plus like the amount of trans people is is insane people with adam's apples and titties and they're walking around you don't know what they are they don't have
Starting point is 00:18:27 sex they don't they just they just like do this they're they've been brainwashed and they don't realize it because when you go to Africa you go to Haiti like my my family's from Haiti in the Philippines you go there's they don't have that shit so why is it all in the west why is it all the West China for example owns TikTok it's owned by the the Chinese government they are promoting a lot of this stuff in China there's no fucking trans people there's no LGBTQ in China but they own the app and they show it to us and this shit oh you see what they promote pride parade pride parade so do you think there's an actual problem with that existing or do you think it's just like you think it's a tool you're trying to say it's like a tool that
Starting point is 00:19:00 they use like to separate like you said the family yeah they're trying to weaken us from the inside out i i understand what you're saying but do you think that those things could exist independently meaning like someone could still have the right to choose to do to you know be what they want etc and still let it not be like uh they don't even want to do that they want to do it for attention it's all it's all just for attention seeking that they give up after like three four years of doing it everybody who turns it to a trans or they them or like sparts putting LGBT in their bio it's to get the like the this is so hold on so here's where it gets dangerous right no but here's this is why they do it I'm not saying that they're that but I'm saying that they most people do it and you
Starting point is 00:19:38 could look at there's a subredic called detransit the amount of people who regret doing it they go this is the new me yeah you can't stop me and they get like those dopamine for like a couple years and then like yeah my name was Nick now I'm Nicole and they get that for a little bit and then when it wears off when nobody cares anymore their whole sense of identity's gone their whole personality was what they identified as and they have nothing else and so they don't know what to do anymore it's not the fact that they feel this way, it's that they want to feel important without doing anything. So here's my question to you though, right? I hear what you're saying. How factual, because this is then we're talking about the ideas of context, right? How factual can you say
Starting point is 00:20:12 everything you're saying right now is 100% the truth, right? Because I'm sure there are people out there who make these transitions and they, and that's them. And they stay that way. And whatever transition that they make, they're like, hey, this is what, like, I'm a girl, now I'm a guy, whatever, right? Vice versa. Are you, you can't say for certain that every single person falls into this category of regret at some point. You know what I'm saying? Like, that'd be like you, that's like the same thing. If we're talking about what he said about Tate or what they said about this person,
Starting point is 00:20:39 take it out of context, you see a clip. Like, where are you getting the information to say that this is, and that's what I'm saying, I want to get at this point. To do these definitive like this is it, that's when it gets dangerous. I don't think you could ever find that information perfectly because. But listen, but they manipulate all these statistics. I get it. So, but when you say stuff like that as an influence and as a creator,
Starting point is 00:20:57 I just want to make this point, it becomes dangerous because when it goes like an average, Absolutely. This is it. Because if you said it, if I listen to what you just said and I'm a kid and I look up to you, I'm going to go, what he said about this, it sounded like this. So it is like this. And then you start to treat everyone like this is the way, right? But it's not that simple. And that's when we create issues. That's when it creates problems. And that's when it's like, what's the problem. Not like not allowing someone to live fully in their truth. You judging someone based on what you. That's the problem. Everybody has their true. Why can't there be just the truth? I'm not saying there's not the truth. Everybody has their truth. now. And if we all have our own truth, then we don't, there's no basis of reality. But the same could be said if you, if I'm not, and I'm not trying to attack you. If I flipped it, the same exact thing could be said about the things you're saying about truth and your truth and what you believe to be true. But I can back up what I'm saying. I'm saying that there's just men and women because biologically you're born a male or a female. If you ask
Starting point is 00:21:50 these people, have you seen Matt Walsh's what is a woman? That whole series. If you ask, if you ask if you ask these people, what is a woman, they have no answer because their identity is based to nothing. They cannot even answer a question as simple as what is a woman. It's all, well, it's what you identify as. It's your truth. It's all made up. It's delusion that everybody lives in. But you can base, there is a truth, you're born a man or a woman. It's as simple as that. I hear what you're saying. So my question now is, why do you think you find it so important for you to draw those lines so sharply? Why is it important for you to draw the line sharply? Because like I said, it's bigger than just trans people. I don't, I'm not just trying to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I'm trying to talk about how people are, like this is one example, a great example of the brainwashing that's happening. I'm not trying to draw a line. I'm just saying that social media has programmed people to believe in a lot of nonsense because everybody wants attention. Everybody wants to feel special and unique. And people attach these things to their personality to make them special. They put their gender pronouns on their bio. That's the big issue. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So what do you think is the most important? Like what do you think we all are trying to seek genuinely? Everybody? What do you think? Happiness. Okay. In the form of what do you think is the deal? deepest form of that. Love.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You're smart man. Okay. So I'm glad you said that because I fully, fully believe that. Everybody knows that deep down. That's what God is. God is love. Everything is that. That's the end goal of happiness. And because everything's so fast now, because of our phones, we are seeking dopamine more than we're seeking love. So identifying is this, putting BLM and that, all these things that we do to canceling someone else. This is the right thing. You can't. It's all, that's not love. That's a dopamine hit. Yeah, I did. I got that. I got him. Yeah. I did it. And then it fades off. and then they're on to the next, like, what do I do now?
Starting point is 00:23:30 And then those people end up depressed and they have mental health problems. They don't realize why. They say, I'm just been dealing with my need a break from social media. They don't realize it's your fault. The stuff that you were attaching to, the stuff that you were ingesting made you depressed. I'm on social media all day long too, but I have a realization of what these people are. And I've thought critically enough. So now when I see these people trying to cancel or I see the stuff people are saying about me,
Starting point is 00:23:50 I've heard it all before. It doesn't affect me because I've moved past it. I know how to think critically. And my bigger goal on social media is, is to ultimately, and I know it might be hypocritical for me to say that because I yell a lot. I'm like, I'm aggressive sometimes, but is to get people to love, for real. Like that's what laughter is. Laughter is spreading happiness.
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's putting a smile on someone's face. That's love. I agree. So here's my point to that is if we talk about love and that's the whole purpose of this, having a direct line of like right and wrong, I don't think you can't, it's like you can't have true love in that sense. and I'll explain, meaning like, there is fluidity in us as humans, right? I'm not saying, like, in the sense of like, you're just, you're just, I'm a bunch of genders today and tomorrow, I'm this and I'm that.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I'm not even talking about that at all, but I'm saying like, there is no true, like, except for like basic moral compass, like right and wrong, right? Meaning there's like a basic moral, if I, if I attacked you, if I, if I hurt a baby, if I, like, I did something just for no reason and I harmed you, right? This is a true, like, innate. I know this is wrong. Like, kids know wrong. they're ever really taught wrong they know they're not just gonna like hit another kid unless like
Starting point is 00:25:01 they're kind of kind of fucked up before they learn it right but innately we have like a base moral compass of like right and wrong would you agree yeah and what do you what would you say those things exist as like give like a few like what's right and wrong yeah basic things that you know one really has to teach you but you know it like you shouldn't hurt other people yeah um you shouldn't steal yeah you shouldn't take other people's stuff you should earn respect i think a lot of the basic ideas that you hear in all religions, which is why I think religion is necessary. Personally, I don't find it necessary. I believe in God, but I think religion provides specific rules so that it doesn't get confusing to people. If they follow these rules, then
Starting point is 00:25:38 they end up living, even though there's differences in religions. Overall, if you follow these rules, you'll be a good person in life. I feel like I innately can decide what's good and bad. If you look internally and if you do enough self-reflection, you can, you could figure that out. Like, yeah, don't fuck other people's stuff. Be a nice person. Yeah. So here's my thing when I think about this whole concept and everything we're talking about, we identified that the fact is we all want ultimately love and we all want to feel love. We all want to feel loved, right? Every single human being is at a completely unique point in their life where they're trying to learn how can they fully experience that?
Starting point is 00:26:13 Can they fully allow themselves to feel that? Like, are they worthy of that? Like, oh, this is fuck. This is weird. Anyways, it reminded me of something. And so we're all trying to get to that point in our lives. And the issue that I'm having someone in this conversation, somewhat with this ideas of like right and wrong and like this and that not being okay is like,
Starting point is 00:26:37 we're all trying to figure out literally at our own pace because that's the only pace we can be at. What is right and wrong for us from an external source, like from everyone around us, right? I could have this innate. I know that I shouldn't steal from you. I know that I shouldn't hurt you, right? I know that I shouldn't physically harm you. As far as my relationship goes with you as a human, like, let's just say right now, we disagreed on something, right?
Starting point is 00:26:57 What if I don't have the tools necessary in order to have a proper disagreement with you because of all the other things in my life or how I've got to that point in my life so that now we have a TIF, we have a disagreement because I believed a little bit that way or I believe like 10 steps over here and you're 10 steps over there and now we have this agreement and now we're not agreeing. So the reason why I'm saying all this is to say how we truly fix all this shit is by getting people number one, like I said earlier, to be able to be willing to think more critically about themselves. But even so, that's not enough because what I know right now is a 33 year old
Starting point is 00:27:30 is completely different of what I knew when I was 23, 10 years ago when I was your age, right? You're a very smart young man. There's no doubt about that, right? The thing that I'm trying to draw this like comparison to is like, we're all on our own time. So I can't say to you or to any of these other people who think they're far left or they're far right, yo, you're fucking wrong and I'm fucking right and this is the truth because I do believe genuinely that you're I don't I don't know everything right so part of my existence online is not trying to put up a guru image which I think a lot of like politicians do like Trump did that Tate did that yeah they were like I know the answer I know I'm trying to secret and I've made I've taken L's publicly I talk about everything in my life I talk
Starting point is 00:28:11 about mistakes I'm a very open book I would say I'm like one of the most honest people that I've seen on the internet because I've grown up on there there it's too late to turn back. Everything that they try to expose me about is shit that I've said. So I'm not afraid of like people trying to uncover it. I've said it first. I'm not trying to say that I know everything. I'm actively trying to seek it. I've changed my mind on a lot of subjects. Only recently the past couple months have I really started saying like I believe in God. I grew up a Catholic and I was an atheist for years. I was like believed in evolution. I was talking about God isn't real and it's science, blah, blah, blah. But recently I've changed my mind on a lot of subjects.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I voted for Trump in 2016. I didn't talk about that for a long time. I talked about Bernie a lot because I was afraid of getting canceled. I didn't want people to call me a racist or something like that, even though I'm Blasian. I was afraid of a lot of, and I talk about that. I talk about everything. And so that's why my motto was seek truth through funny
Starting point is 00:28:58 because I will never be fully right. I will never know everything. We're all human. We cannot know everything. We are prone to make mistakes. We are imperfect. And we don't know everything. Well, a true master,
Starting point is 00:29:11 I think at something is someone who's willing to say, I don't know everything. I don't know everything. As much as I know, And I never will. But so when we talk about now, if we go back to what we were saying earlier to say that, you know, this person is right or this person is wrong or this is the truth, that's when it gets messy, right? When we start talking about like, this is the only way for things to be or that's the only way. You think that's what I do?
Starting point is 00:29:30 No, slightly. Yeah. Why did I do that? When you started talking, you didn't say like, I guess it wasn't a definite, right? But when we started talking about the gender pronouns, it felt, I'll be honest, it felt a little bit like you were standing in a perspective of like there's only one reason why this. stuff is happening and that's because of an agenda at the top but I don't think that's true enough to say I don't think that is the only truth because I think there are people out there why there there are no old people who are gender fluid I'm not listen why are all the gender neutral people
Starting point is 00:30:01 I listen I don't have an exact answer for this been gay people there's been but gender fluidity is just I don't know that though too I also don't know that if they're I also don't know right now there's no old gender fluid people how do you know there's not one boomer saying I'm non-binary Are you sure? I am sure of that. Are you sure? That's an absolute, I could say, there's not one in the whole world. Don't exist.
Starting point is 00:30:22 See, this is that, but I don't know. I don't know, though. No. Do you really know that, though? I know that for sure. How? You talk to everyone in the world? I've met every single boomer, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They told me. They told me. I know what I'm saying. This is what it gets, that's when it gets dangerous. If you can find me one, then I'm an asshole. And I apologize. I'm learning and growing. I've made mistakes.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I'm a bad person. No, no, no. I'm learning. I'm growing. No, no. And I'm going to be better. That was the old me. Yeah, you're so stupid.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And I'm sorry. Press the camera button. No, see, but this is, yeah, the apology is funny. Yeah, and Logan Paul, what the fuck saying, yeah, I don't even want to platform him. Bro, everybody wanted you fucking delete it at one point. Everybody. Yeah. You were the most canceled man in the fucking world, and now you're doing the same thing to somebody else.
Starting point is 00:31:06 How do you not see the hypocrisy in that? If you're like, well, that was the young version of me, and now I'm going to go through my journey and get better and learn. Why does that not apply to someone else who's getting hate on him? What the fuck are you talking about? I think, yeah. He just doesn't want to get his shit deleted. He wants to make money. He wants to work and be part of the system.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I want my bag. I'm going to go sell a fucking Gatorade drink. It's stupid. Yeah, I think the only argument to that, the only argument that could be said is that Logan was, what, I don't know, 18, 19 when he fucked up. He was 21, whatever. And then the only argument is to be like, but Tate didn't fuck up. How did Tate fuck up?
Starting point is 00:31:42 I don't know. So this is the thing. He never apologized. Logapal's like, oh, it was a bad person. I was a piece of shit, stupid fucking idiot. And I'm sorry with my long blonde hair and my Pikachu hat. Fucking idiot. And then now, he could beat me up.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So let me just like chill out. Like that's what we do through the camera. He could, he would beat me up. Anyway, Tate never, how did Tate fuck up? He's like, he said, Logan Paul says this nonsense like he's spreading hate speech and dangerous ideas. Where? Name one thing.
Starting point is 00:32:05 People can't. They just like don't like the way he talks. Same with me. Like what is it? Try to point something out about everybody tries to cancel me. Try to point it out. One sentence. One belief.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Nothing. They just don't like the way I talk I see what you're just saying I think like the thing that I said earlier about the gender thing could be a reason why someone would be like I want to cancel that guy because he's not respecting the thing
Starting point is 00:32:23 that I'm growing in right? Fuck that bro I'm just saying That's another bullshit Gen Z liberal idea Like you have to respect me No you don't you need to earn respect I don't know you Just because you declare your pronouns I'm gonna change the language for you
Starting point is 00:32:36 So I gotta give you the opposing argument here Is gonna be like You're absolutely right I don't think someone needs to just respect someone just because they said they're this or they're that, right? But then we start talking about this concept of the platforms. Like if someone could sit on a platform and use that platform and go like, hey, this is how
Starting point is 00:32:52 I think. And the platform itself is like, yo, basically go fuck yourself, you're banned because we don't want you on our platform saying that shit. They do have the right to do that, right? That's the issue with it. The problem is Logan Paul siding with that. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's Logan Paul siding with the programming.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah. How are you picking the powers that be? You're picking it because you want to stay in that system. Financial gain. Yeah. financial gain. Yeah. You don't want to get canceled again. You're afraid. He's afraid of what happened to him. So he's okay, not again. No, please not again. Do you, but you don't think, do you think there's any merit to what he? Because, because here's the thing. So when we talk about,
Starting point is 00:33:25 we're talking about all this stuff earlier context, when you tell me like, uh, Andrew Tate didn't do anything wrong, I don't have enough. I see enough context of like random clips where he'll say some dumb shit like, which I'll, I'll see the whole clip and then be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll see the whole clip. It'll be like, obviously this has to be a joke. But now it all comes down to like how someone receives a joke or perspective, right? Like, for example, me and Steve did a podcast the other day. I got a ton of views. Steve was on the podcast saying that he jerks his dog off.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Straight up, right? And in the way in which he says it... I do that too. Yeah, so this is the thing. In the way in which he says it, you'd be like, is he fucking serious? And I'm just going to tell everyone, he's not fucking serious. How do you say, like, I jerk my dog off? No, he had a whole story.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Because we were talking about this part. We were like, you know, this would be funny. He talked about how he loaves it up with the peanut butter. he wanted to detail everything. He was like, he was just like how basically he's the cool dad because he jerks his dog off and Slina doesn't jerk him off. So I'm in the, I'm in context because I understand what's happening and I'm like kind of just going along with the joke because I think it's fucking funny. He does not do that. But people go, what the fuck is this guy serious? Like that's fucked. And like I'm reading comments. Like people do believe it. So that makes it funnier. Well, bro, to me it makes it funny. But to those people they go, this guy's a fucked up person. Yeah. But the people that get it laugh even harder when they see these people, what? He jerks his dog off. Yeah, but here, now here comes the issue, right? The issue goes, when someone sees a clip, let's say, of Tate and he's like, I'm not going to fucking give my friend CPR, that's fucking gay. Then they're like, no, straight up, straight up, like, it could be.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Also, does CPR even work? Isn't that like, yeah, bro, I know how to do that shit. It's real? Yeah, it's real as fuck. Yeah, don't try it on me, though. No, no, I won't, I won't. But what I'm saying is like, you see just that and you go, oh, that's fucked up. So that's what, this is, all this stuff comes down to context.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And that's where I have my biggest issue. You can clip anything and make it seem bad now. Yeah. Yeah. And I think people exist more, like we said earlier, even more off of clips than they do off of like all context. We just have to adapt. Like that's how we know people think that way. We know people are going to clip it out of context. They're going to sit to clip the gender thing out of context.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm going to look bad. Like you're going to get a little bit of heat. Just for having me on, you're going to get some heat. Yeah. I'm like public enemy number one after the fucking, yo, it's bad. It's bad. At least you don't jerk your dog off, though. I do.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Oh, yeah? I just said right before coming here. Oh, nice. Do you have any dogs for real? Um, no. No. No. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, this is like, it's just a really weird time, man. And I like the reason why I brought you honest, I really wanted to talk to you about this shit. Because I want to try to figure out a way, which I don't even think it was a fucking way, man, genuinely. It's like we'll talk about this shift again. This like left, right, left, right. Because the life is ultimately like we're trying to find balance. We're trying to find balance within ourselves, like who we are, what we want, what like what makes us happy, what makes us truly feel love. All those things I feel like we're all individually trying. And we can't. I always feel like it all goes to the center, but everything, especially online, has gone so far left that apparently now I'm an alt-right Trump supporter. I voted for Trump, but I never, I've always considered myself to be kind of in the middle.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Like, I don't want to align myself with any political party, but they have taken it so far communist that here I am. Like, I'm a, I'm a right winger now. So I'll tell you that the time when I truly felt this was when I kept my gym open during the pandemic. My whole, I grew up, was born and raised. That was an all right thing to do. And it's crazy, though, because I was born and raised in San Francisco. So my whole life, my family, I grew up being like Democrat fully. I didn't even, but I also didn't know even what that meant.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I just knew that that's, that was the good side. That was the side that I grew up on and everyone was around me. Yeah, me too, right? And the minute that I was like, wait a second, was when I have my gym in California in Woodland Hills and the pandemic hits. And I, and I look at everything. And I close my gym for a few months. And I, and I, because like, right away, you know, like, you see videos of like people dead and like on the floor in China. And I'm like, oh, this is the apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Like people are going to be dropping like zombies. And then I wait a few months. I'm looking around like, okay, this is, everything's normal in a sense. And yeah, there's all these cases and all these things. And I start to look at it. I'm like, wait, like, what is really going on here? And I'm like, okay, I learned a little bit more about the problem. Co-c-c-c-c-c- Right?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Careful. Yeah. I got to strike. So I started learning more about the-coco. The issue, right? And then, no, straight up. And then I'm like, and then I'm like, wait, this thing could be like, not fixed, but the way that it's affecting most people
Starting point is 00:37:41 is through like your respiratory system. Are you saying it's all bullshit? No, this is the thing. Are you saying it's all a hoax? No, no, I'm saying it's a real thing. No. I'm saying it's a real thing, right? But I identified it at.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I looked at all the issues that it causes. Are you saying it wasn't that bad? It's kind of just like a flu and that we should have locked down? You're saying that? I'm saying that I looked at and I was like, so these are the things that it causes, these are the problems that it causes.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And my mind goes immediately, we're shutting stuff down, okay? We're shutting things down that are deemed non-essential to fight this thing. And so the first things they shut down are gyms. And I'm like, okay, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Okay, okay, for sure liquor stores and people who sell cigarettes are coming next because those are actually the worst things for your body. Especially during a virus. Especially during this virus, though, because this virus that we're talking about, the thing that we're talking about
Starting point is 00:38:30 is the most, it's most critical to like your respiratory system and your heart and your lungs. So this is for sure the thing that's coming next after the gyms and I'm waiting and I'm like wait a second oh we're oh we're not doing that we're not closing that down so we're allowing people and now you people argue and say well that's because liquor can be essential the reason why is because people have become so alcohol
Starting point is 00:38:50 dependent that this is true if I took alcohol though why can't someone be no dependent but they can be alcohol dependent so I'm listen I'm just I got to speak all points I can understand someone can go right but it is but it's still a point right so because I can say this is true if I was dependent on alcohol and I was an alcoholic because I got myself there. If you took alcohol away from me, I couldn't buy it. I could die. Okay, but yeah, it's stupid that you can have a dependence. You could have dependence on alcohol, but you can't have a gym dependence. Listen, I'm trust me. Look at what the government says you should be is what's an essential dependence. Bro, you've got to tell me, I just got to set up all the points and then I'm going to knock them down
Starting point is 00:39:23 real quick. So check this out. And then I'm looking like, okay, so, okay, then for sure cigarettes. All right. If it's not alcohol, because like, because alcohol, there are some arguments people can make. I'm like, all right. Cigarettes are 100 percent. They're getting banned because that is going to make, because we're talking about health now. We're talking about keeping people alive, right? So we're talking about keeping people alive. Then cigarettes, they're going down with the gym because if the gym can spread it, the cigarettes are going to make the illness 10 times worse because of the added issues
Starting point is 00:39:49 from the problem and the cigarettes. Combine, big issue, right? Closer to death, right? Because we're trying to protect people. That never happened. So we never stopped selling cigarettes. So I'm like, damn, this is crazy. So I'm allowed to choose willingly to hurt myself and complicate my health, but I'm
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'm not allowed to choose willingly to do the opposite, literal opposite of that for my health to be better, to be healthier, to live longer with this thing that we can't fix, basically, because it's here. So I can make that choice, but I can't make this choice. Then it got another step further, right? When they started closing down my gym, I'm looking around. I'm like, they want to close down my gym. What's open?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Well, what's open? I'm like, okay, every other big corporation is open. Costco down the street with an outdoor eating area. mom and pops restaurant down the street with the outdoor area closed can't be open same exact setup can't be open Costco's good though best buy is good though every giant thing is also good and i and i'm like what's happening like okay okay forget about that for a second let's forget the local thing because this is kind of mess with me they come into my gym and i have these conversations with the health workers the health work no the cops every time are like we don't want to be here we think this
Starting point is 00:40:58 is dumb the health workers go we're doing our job and and i ask every time they'd come in and try to cite me, I would say, you know what's crazy? I just, I just flew to Florida. And there's a ton of people on the plane. And we're all sitting side by side. I'm right next to this person. But you're telling me, for my gym to be open, I have to be six feet away from that guy. I have to wipe everything down. But I can get in it, I can get in a plane and sit right next to someone. And the airport, you know, they block off seats for social distancing. It's like, don't sit in this seat so that you can sit. And then you go on the plane. There you go right next to the fat. Oh, yeah. So, so here's my thing. And I'm telling them this. And I'm like, can you please, I literally have a
Starting point is 00:41:30 clip of this that I never posted, but you have all these things why the gym has to be this way, okay? But I can get on a plane with a massive amount of people in an airport coming from all over the world this entire time. You keep your mask on and then when you eat everybody's and even that and even that one, bro, even the people who believed like truly believed in all this or even, you'd have conversation with that person about like, I have to wear a mask to walk into a restaurant and then take it off. And then take it off when I sit down. Those people even like, yeah, that is pretty fucking dumb. That's besides the point. The point is this. I started talking to these health workers and I'm like, yo, okay, you got all these regulations in the gym.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Can you explain to me? And I would ask them to point Blake to their face, how come the airports are still wide open? And they go, you know what their answer is? And this is when I lost and I was like, this is not right. There's so much not right. And this is like, I was like, I didn't care what anyone thought. I said, this is not fair. This is not just. This is not good. Everything in this is bad is when they said, well, that's not our jurisdiction. So I asked the guy said, Okay, so you're telling me that because that's private, right, or that's a different jurisdiction. We'll call it federal.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I think it was federal jurisdiction. And this is public jurisdiction because your public health, because that's not their jurisdiction, federal health, I guess, that COVID does not spread in that. And they go, oh, well, we don't know. We're going to have to talk to like a supervisor or something. We'll get back to you. And every single time, I'd ask them this and no one ever got back to me.
Starting point is 00:42:47 So I, oh, I, I, there was no answer. There was never an answer. And then, you know, I, I was going to attack. Are you saying they wanted to shut your business down? Essentially. They're saying they wanted to keep people inside and make people upset. Yeah, it was a weird thing, man.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And then I was getting attacked online because I kept my gym open. But yeah, they were doing a good thing, though. They were on the good side of history. Yeah. Yeah, I think. They were helping a good cause. It's a weird. I think a lot of people woke up during the, I did especially.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I think I was very aware of the brainwashing. It's frustrating, man, because like. How they manipulate empathy. I try so hard because this is, I don't know if this kind of person I am because like I try so hard to always see the other side of something. I try so hard to always see the other perspective of something. And that truly was one thing that I was like, okay, this thing, makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I cannot find any reason, any single reason. Well, there's your approach. That was a good example of thinking critically because you didn't come in with a bias. You came in saying that you're a Democrat from San Francisco and you were just, you had a gym, and you just, you just analyzed a situation. You didn't get manipulated by anything. You just thought critically. You even talked to the health workers.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You just, that's a perfect example of how somebody can apply your way of thinking to their life. You didn't come in with some political agenda, not some crazy concerns. conspiracy theorist. You weren't trying to like take someone down. You're just like, okay, how does this make sense based on health? Let me analyze this and it didn't. And they could never even give you an answer. Perfect example of thinking critically. Yeah. And what got me even further, the thing that got me even more like wrapped up in this, the thing that really irked me was when we started talking about like, this is my biggest issue in all this mess was mental health. Okay. During that destroyed, like, during that time, completely destroyed. Like people are separated from like kids. Like
Starting point is 00:44:22 you're not learning, they're not growing. You got to stand away. You got to cover your face. You can't talk. Not just like suicide went up. All this stuff went up. Domestic violence went up. All this stuff like I thought we were trying to protect people, right?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah, I beat the shit out of my girlfriend. And I grew up. Yeah. Did you? No. What? Okay. Wait a sec.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I grew up without a father, right? I don't know if you knew that, but I grew up without a father. And I don't, and everyone talks about because I've talked about this a few times on podcast. I'm not trying to just make this thing that I talk about on the podcast. I'm not going to fucking cry about it. But I want to say this because my father killed himself. He hung himself.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So I have a fucking bitch. I have a very like, uh, fuck. Sorry, no. Fuck, I hate this shit every time. I have a very strong feeling for this. So it's good that you talk about it. It helps a lot of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Motherfucker. I have a very strong feeling for this. So during this time, right, I start, you start hearing about all this stuff. And I'm like, okay, what is the one thing? oh shit my bad the one thing that like genuinely fucking bitch changed my life and allowed me
Starting point is 00:45:28 to fucking not be dead oh shit uh fuck and that was the gym okay and and not just because of the gym itself, but because the people that I met in the gym, the conversations that I had in the gym, the relationships that I built in the gym, the father figures that I met in the gym that I was seeking my whole life.
Starting point is 00:45:53 You could tell. I mean, you motivated me a lot growing up. Like, you were one of the biggest inspirations I had to get in there. I think you inspired a lot of people. And, yeah, I appreciate it, man. I'm really sorry. This is tough for me. So this whole thing, the reason why I stood so strongly was because that was my life.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And if I'm looking at, I'm talking to do this lens of like my 17 year old self, not only all this health benefits that are super essential to beat this thing, but the mental health that comes along with the gym and the camaraderie and the friendship and the group and like the learning and the growing and everything that it did for me and my 17 year old self where I was in a point where I was like, the fuck's a point of life. Jim saved you. Save my life. And I'm looking through this lens of like, you know, a successful guy. I got YouTube. I have my own gym. I did all this stuff that I've always wanted to do. I met I know these cool people
Starting point is 00:46:40 And then I'm looking like Who the fuck would I be? I'm trying to imagine myself I closed down a gym Who knows what 17 year old is in my gym Who's feeling the same fucking way that I felt That can't go They can't go now
Starting point is 00:46:52 And now they can get alcohol and cigarettes though That's how they're gonna cope And that motherfucker ends his life Because he doesn't have that situation That's truly the thing that like Made me say okay I don't I don't care This is what I believe And I drew that line
Starting point is 00:47:06 And I didn't care what came next I didn't care how people felt about it. I felt like this is 100% the right thing to do. And anything else would be the wrong thing to do. And so this is crazy, right? Now I'm having this conversation. I'm saying it out loud. And I'm, I don't want to go, I'm not going to go back on any of these points.
Starting point is 00:47:24 But now we're talking about, remember earlier we were talking about emotion and why people make decisions? Yeah. I did the same thing. But I landed on the right side, the far right, right side. That's what I, then it started on emotion, but you made the decision. decision critically. I did. It wasn't an emotional decision you made. I think at first like your your analysis came like because you felt away about but the reason you opened up the gym was not just an emotional reaction. An emotional reaction is is putting on a mask. Yeah. Is being scared is like
Starting point is 00:47:54 acting based on fear not realizing the hypocrisy there. That's an emotional decision. What you did was that's not emotional. It comes from a place of like something genuine but that's that's not what an emotional reaction is. Okay. I see what you're saying. You're talking about like a just a straight reaction. to something, yeah. That's what an emotional reaction is. Those are two completely different things. Yeah. That's righteous.
Starting point is 00:48:14 That's what you did was righteous. You figured out what was right and wrong. Acting emotional is how everybody gets like canceled nowadays. It's how everybody thinks just based off eclipse and tries to. It's like, I don't like this, but they don't think about why there's no analysis of right or wrong. It's it makes you feel bad. Yeah. The thing that I really, the thing that I really don't like is how I guess on the internet nowadays, people,
Starting point is 00:48:38 just they use situations just like for judgment and it almost seems like just for views just for clout and like that's that's a thing that I kind of I'll get off the other topic going to this is like I feel like that's one of the most frustrating parts of like being a creator on the internet and like I'm not I don't expect anyone listening who's like a viewer or someone who's not a creator to like fully understand this but that's one of the things that I I really do not like about the internet is that like someone will take some clips from here things you said maybe things i said and be like these guys fuck these guys because i feel like this right because you're on the radar of like some of those people that do that that
Starting point is 00:49:14 their content is literally the way they make money is to hate on other people yes and and and and that's the thing that like i i it frustrates me because none of the content that i ever made ever ever ever was negative to make people feel bad about the things that they believe or they think for some agenda or whatever the fuck you want to call. No, I could always tell it was positive. Like everything, even when you first opened up, what's the first gym you opened up? Zoo culture. Yeah, zoo culture.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Even when, I remember like even wanting to get a membership there. Like my friends were tired talking, yo, what if we get a lifetime membership? Because I could always tell. It's obvious when somebody does something because they actually love it or when they do it just for clout and attention. Yeah. But it's always seemed like you've had a positive, you had positive reasons for everything you did.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Yeah. And so then I get frustrated because I remember during this time, like I kept the gym open. attacked by the same people who are pretty much attacking you the left the liberals and and it's like i i can't say right because there are the circumstances where we probably shouldn't have done a few things like we had like a like a gym protest we had a ton of people that was funny though you well you don't even say you should not have done this that matters to you the gym why why you shouldn't say that oh we shouldn't have done that well not necessarily shouldn't have done it's just like the things that the the the conversations i could see obviously that would come of it would be skewed
Starting point is 00:50:28 of like oh well what about this other shit and i get it what about what other shit exactly the the the the fucking joking protest shit we did, like the gym, the gym shit. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember that. But what does it matter what the motivation of a protest is? True. It's fucking crazy, man. It's crazy because, like, dude, the more you, the more I talk about this stuff and the
Starting point is 00:50:48 more I get into this stuff is like, dude, are we just fucked? No, you can't have a defeatist attitude about it. It's, but it's, it's going to be a tough next couple of years. Like, I'm most likely going to keep getting removed off platforms. They're going to keep silencing people that they disagree with. the cancel people are going to take over. But I think what's going to happen is like there's going to be a thirst and a hunger
Starting point is 00:51:09 for real content and real people again. And you think there's going to be like a real shift to a new platform? I think so. Because there's there's an obvious agenda that they only promote certain types of people. The people that cancel other, like the creator who's trying to,
Starting point is 00:51:23 who literally posted a video saying YouTube should ban Sneco, he's breaking terms of service by saying that. By saying you should go mass support my channel. But he won't get in trouble for that. But I'll get in trouble for apparently harassing through a screen. The agenda is very obvious, but their content sucks. That's the problem is that their whole existence, most of these people on the left,
Starting point is 00:51:40 these liberals who are like constantly doing this, they don't exist without us. Their whole thing is just, this is bad. This is disgusting. I don't like this. And if they win, which they're winning right now, and we all get deleted, what the fuck are they going to talk about? They're not funny. They're not interesting. They don't have any reasons for the stuff they do.
Starting point is 00:51:56 They don't have any motivations like what you did for keeping your gym open. They don't have that. It doesn't exist. What they do is like they are mad, jealous. people who don't really have much personality or stuff like that. They got bullied in school. Instead of trying to improve, which is hard, they don't improve they get online and complain.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And so once we get deleted, which is happening now, what are they going to talk about? And what the audience are going to see is, oh, these people, they kind of suck. They got nothing. They're boring. They just sit there. I know what you're going to say. They're going to realize how predictable they are and they're going to be like, I want to be entertained and you suck.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And they will end up going to the next platform. So then my question is, why do you think on social in general? Why do you think people thrive so much on negativity? Because I've dealt with so much bullshit in this stupid-ass fitness industry from like the lamest shit ever. Yeah. Just in general, right? I mean, we could talk about all sides of this, the political bullshit, whatever, but.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's all this. It's all related. Yeah. Why do you think, why do you think there's such a draw? And I have an answer to this. I have an opinion of this. Why people are so drawn to that negative context. I have an answer for that.
Starting point is 00:52:59 How often do you get haters in real life? Almost never, right? never never I mean neither like the amount of hate I get online is like regular basis people say massages talk about real life everyone's like yo bro I love your videos yeah I love you really fuck with your shit people want clout and people want attention you don't get attention for supporting somebody else you know what people call me every single day you're a tate dick rider we're a dick rider dick rider like if you show support for somebody else like yo I like what he's saying what are you like riding his dick for and hypocrisy is that the same people who say that are also on the
Starting point is 00:53:30 side of LGBTQ support everybody and what's their insult for when you support somebody what are you riding his dick are you saying that isn't that kind of homophobic when you think about it it's it shows that there's no standard there's no consistency with what they talk about they just like feeling right and so the reason that negativity thrives is you get attention for that now someone else is saying something and to get an equal amount of attention is jealousy it's like okay here's my opinion you're wrong and then you get people who are like yeah he's wrong and they're on your side for a little bit it's because you get retention for negativity. You don't, supporting somebody else
Starting point is 00:54:03 is saying it's cool, you just immediately get people clowning you for that. Like there's no cool points. Me saying in the beginning, like, y'all I've been watching you since middle school, you motivated me to get in the gym. People are going to be like, what are you like riding his dick for?
Starting point is 00:54:15 Like you can't give people flowers without someone else in the YouTube comments. And because people live so chronically online, they will respond to those bottom level hidden Twitter replies and they'll see those YouTube comments. And instead of seeing that those are just like people with anime profile pictures who are just alone in their room not do it clearly unhappy people they will be afraid of that and they'll try to win over those people's approval but you know like once
Starting point is 00:54:37 you're online and for a long time like you know what they think that doesn't affect you yeah why why do you think people damn it's crazy how it all comes full circle though people are so so stuck on trying to get approval from other people because i think it comes back down to that the idea of feeling loved yeah feeling appreciated and accepted and there's no love in that like spreading negative It gives you a little dopamine rush, but it's not love. That's the thing that's like a cigarette. Yeah. It's not actual happiness.
Starting point is 00:55:03 It's a little slice of it. You know, it's funny. Steve once said, when I was in, what was this clip? I saw this on my jail the other day. Steve said, uh, cigarette's like cake. You know why? Why? Like, it's like, oh, it's good.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Makes you feel good. It's like you eat some cake. And then as soon as you're done with, you're like, fuck, almost like, why did I do that? Anyways, stupid joke. The point is this, man, I think I'm so interested in this because, like, the idea of negativity and the idea of, of like thriving on negativity.
Starting point is 00:55:29 The thing that fucking gets me every time when I think about it is the people who are spewing it and the people who are like, I wanna, I just wanna make you wrong. It's like, I wanna talk bad about you. I wanna say this. I wanna like, I wanna pull you down so I feel like I can go up.
Starting point is 00:55:42 It's like, where does that really come from? And I'm trying to understand it's because they want to feel the love. They want to feel good. They want to be validated. They want to feel right. And it's, to me, it's just generally sad because ultimately,
Starting point is 00:55:56 If I look at you as a human being and I go, man, what you said is fucking wrong. You're stupid. You're dumb. You're bad. I'm smarter than you. You're an idiot. You believe this and you should believe that. It's like, bro, that negativity.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Do you think that's what I'm doing? No, I don't think that's what you're doing. Not at all. That lives in me. If I let that... No, everybody has it. I got it too. But you have to work past it.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It's harder to say something genuine. It's harder. It takes more effort to say something nice. Yeah. It takes it. The negative reaction going, this is dumb. That's your first thought. That's an emotional response.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah. But saying something genuine or trying to understand somebody or trying to think critically takes more mental energy and people are dumb. Most people are dumb. So that's the thing, man. We talk about it. I kind of said a little bit out earlier.
Starting point is 00:56:36 It's like everyone learning at their own pace. That's the like the biggest, not issue. The biggest thing here that's true is that like the kid who's 15, the kid who's 23, the kid who's 33, the guy, whatever, guy kid, kid, whatever you want to call it. Even the 23 year old, right? You might have who knows why more of a gift. to see a situation, understand a situation, create rational thoughts around a situation,
Starting point is 00:57:00 then a 33-year-old guy who... Because we all learn at different paces? Yeah. And so that's the thing that makes us so complicated is that, like, we could always sit from a standpoint of like, this is what I know, but someone else can only sit
Starting point is 00:57:12 from the same standing point that they have from what they know. And that's when you continue, it's a never-ending cycle of like, I don't know, it's like trying to get the other person to see from your lens, right, which is also impossible. But it's easier to do it in person.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And that's why there's so much negative and there's so much hate now is that online online has given a platform for all of that it's that's where it lives and that's why i'm saying like in real life you only get love you only get people being genuine that's where you go it's it's it's going to fuck up the next generation like very like that's why there's going to be a lot of people who don't know how to think critically who are just going to say exactly what they're told to say they're going to avoid saying something controversial because they don't want to get any hate but i'm telling that for people who are starting this stuff you just got to get used to it you just got to train yourself to it's it is what it
Starting point is 00:57:54 That's just the nature of the internet now. Most people will start to upload their first video. And when they get that comment, you suck. They cry. They don't how to do it. It was like someone tries to start live streaming. When they get that first spam of L's, wow. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You don't know how to handle it. Bro. But it makes you stronger. Like me growing up on YouTube and everything, I would say it sounds lame, but the thing that's made me the most mentally strong is growing up on YouTube. Because reading the comments and seeing so many people for years, it's just like, you know how when you get bullied in school, you end up stronger.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Yeah. You end up like better like your character. Everything. I've been bullied by the internet since I was 14. So it's like what are you going to tell me that I haven't heard? There's nothing you can say that I haven't heard about me. It's interesting concept. I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:36 it's the truth. Like that's how you get better at anything is through fucking it being difficult. Yes. That's why bullying is good because it's difficult. Bring bullying back. We need you need to be bullied. You need to be bullied. But we're telling because of like everyone's so soft and where we're pushing this.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Like you're feeling. people don't even get bullied anymore they don't have any character they don't have any that's why everyone sounds the same you need to have like someone say ah stupid you look dumb that hat's dumb i i think you know no no it's all good i think um i think it's also because of the internet right because if we talk about where i mean shit dude if we talk about where most hate lives now it does live on the internet even for i'm trying to put myself in this perspective which i can't even fully understand but young kids who i don't even know how old they are now with the phone with a social media account some kids have more followers some kids have less
Starting point is 00:59:23 followers some kids get let because it's all comparative like we all lie and pretend that we don't care but that's the first thing when you look at somebody's like I'm going to follow it like what's the ratio it's crazy now because it's like dude at what age is that starting younger and younger bro that's fucking insane to me kids are six years old on ticot and ticot is a brainwashing app it's really yo parents watching this get delete ticot off of your kid's phone it's it's poison it's it's weird shit to me when I think about this I'm like where the fuck are we going genuinely like because the thing is there can be a lot of good stuff on there, right? But the crazy thing about these apps, too, the thing that really fucks me up,
Starting point is 00:59:57 thing that really gets me going like, what is happening? Is that like, and you could see this very obviously through TikTok, they feed you more of what you already watch. They feed you more of the content I think is deemed like suitable for you. That's why nobody ever thinks critically. Yes, bro, based on the content that you already see, like, so if I'm on Facebook and I only watch is like, um, alt right, alt right, all right left, whatever the fuck, right? Then I'm just fully every time I'm, I'm more enforced by this side or this opinion every time I get on. Anything on TikTok. You watch TikTok, excuse me, you watch more of the stuff. You just get more of the stuff that's related to the stuff that you're already watching. So it's like the context is completely now
Starting point is 01:00:32 you only get to know what that guy thinks or what that side thinks. And then so now your ability to critically think is actually being fucking destroyed. So the whole thing in full circle, it's like the thing that is the most important thing for us as a as a fucking society is to learn to be better at critically thinking and fucking like trying to understand stuff for for what it really is, right? not just going, oh, he said that in context. Okay, that's what it is. But the things itself that we spend 90% of our day on is, is actually doing the opposite of that for us.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It's fucking crazy, bro. Like, we live in such a crazy time. We live in a society. Like, it's, we definitely live in a society. Yeah, I see what you did. We do. We do be living in a society. I see what you did there.
Starting point is 01:01:14 That was clever. That was really clever. Yeah, it's, it's getting worse, but it's going to be bad for like two, three. It's going to get really disgusting. in two, three years. You see it like every day they can't handle someone else. So, but we'll come out of it stronger. I know you're saying right now like, dude, are we fucked? I don't want to be for a little bit. It's going to be bad. No, I'm telling you my prediction two, three years like it's good again. But it always bounces. What do they say like hard times, create strong men, something like
Starting point is 01:01:40 that? Yeah. We'll bounce back. Yeah. We'll bounce back. Fuck, man. Anything else you want to talk about? No, we covered it all. We covered it all. That's it. Yeah. Any other anything? I want to say shout out to my, my friend Kyle Gelsena's because we used to watch your shit back in the day. That's dope. And yeah, he was like, well, we were both huge fans. It's really like surreal. Like I was telling him in the elevator, like I'm going to fanboy a little bit. That's cool. Like since Domazetti, since Bozzi, like shout out to Bo Science Life, Domazetti. Yeah, years ago, bro. Um, yeah, you know where to find Sneco, just look me up. That's it. Yeah. I appreciate you coming on, man. Smart fucking kid. I appreciate talking to you for sure.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And I will say one thing Oh shout out to raw But before you say that Like shout out to raw talk I especially wanted to come on this podcast Because the full set podcast Like they get great guests and everything But the questions they ask are just so
Starting point is 01:02:23 Mid Like how many birds you smash Elon Musk Like what the f Like it's very low Let's just simple stuff What boxers are briefs Like you know
Starting point is 01:02:32 I want to use something They had Lil Durk on They're like Like that guy Bob Mennery Some fucking terrible interviewer No offense to the guy Like he's like Hey there's a lot of chains
Starting point is 01:02:43 He got on How much they cost? Shut the fuck up. Did you do any... Why are you interviewing Lil Durk? You don't know what you... There's no conversation you could have. But you, you actually have...
Starting point is 01:02:51 You are a genuinely curious person. And that's why I'm glad that you talked a lot about critically thinking. Because I could tell listening to with the stuff that you've asked, even with the business owner in Miami, I don't remember his name. You could tell that you're genuinely curious. And it kind of reminds you of what makes the Joe Rogan podcast good is because you could tell that you actually want to learn. You're not doing this to be on camera and be like, hey, I'm a YouTuber.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Might as well start a podcast. You actually want to be. want to learn something from us and have real conversation it's a fitting name to have raw talk and that's uh that's why you're a good interviewer that's why most of them like i'm i'm not trying to diss the delk boys and everything i watch all the knell boys videos yeah bro the interviewers you step your game up man it's very come on i'm saying some wild shit no i'm cutting my burning bridges i've read a lot of comments okay yeah all right all right but i really appreciate that yeah you're you're you're you're smart smart as fuck smart kid and i and i'm really grateful for that for
Starting point is 01:03:42 for real and i and i'm just yeah i do genuinely like this and i really really value the ability to just have open conversations no matter like like like i'd love to talk to these i'd love to talk to that guy who's trying to fucking act you i'd love to talk to the other guys they don't they are not capable of conversation i'd love to you know that i tried to and that i actually heard this i'm just talking about ethan right now fuck it i wanted to do it and he said that he would do it because because the client yes he said that he would do it but on a zoom call but it's like dude it's i'm not going to run up and like attack you man i just want to i would love to just sit and out have a conversation i'm about to go in fresh and fit and you know the reason you said you didn't want to go in fresh and fit
Starting point is 01:04:18 are you guys jabbed up is it can we can we sit six feet apart that's what that was his reason to not go in person on the podcast oh i don't know but see you wanted to go to a zoom call and then what i i don't know i i didn't get any farther than that because to me is like i i feel like to have a really good conversation with someone it's got to be face-to-face yeah because you can understand someone's like energy and vibe and you could see where they're coming from versus like you know, through a screen, you just don't have that. I can't, I can't gauge, like, to have a genuine real conversation with you, I can't gauge it just through a screen.
Starting point is 01:04:49 No. Because you can't feel it because that's a real thing. Energy is a very real thing. And you can understand where someone's like, you know, based on their body language, based on like the feedback, like, it's just different in person. And I do genuinely fucking love having conversation. I love just learning because, dude, my whole life, like the reason why I love this stuff so much and why, you know, I think that you think that I'm good at it is because I really want to learn
Starting point is 01:05:11 about not just other people but about myself because everything I've ever learned in my life I've learned also through and with other people and I've never been a good book guy where I'm like oh man if I open this book I can learn this stuff and I can apply this stuff I've never learned like that I've always learned through conversations with someone
Starting point is 01:05:30 through experiences with someone through someone else's experience and I think like that's you know maybe it's the art of like storytelling or trying to understand but like that's what I value and I enjoy joy so much because that's what's made me who I am today. You know, I talked about earlier about like finding father figures and when I was young, having those conversations with those people
Starting point is 01:05:48 in the gym, the friends in the gym, the camaraderie that I had, like that's how I learned. That's how I grew. That's how I became who I am today. I grew without a father. So every time I would meet someone, a coach or like, like I said, someone along that line of like a good friend or an older friend or someone that was like a father figure, that's how I learned the most in my life. So I value this so much. And I think that's why you can sit there and say I'm good at it because and it seems like I genuinely care about it because like everything that I am today is because of this type of content. That's why you're successful too and I think a lot of people don't understand that, but you need to follow your passions and like there needs to be a basis of love in it.
Starting point is 01:06:23 If you don't love what you're doing, then it's just going to be corny. That's why most podcasts suck. They're doing it to get more content, but you're doing it from a place of love because you want to learn. Yeah. And dude, I wanted to feel loved. I wanted to know what it felt like. So me and learning and understanding people like that was a version of it. Yeah, man, I fucking talk a lot, but, you know, it's from the art. So you're dope as fuck, bro. I can tell. Yeah, you're dope as fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And I hope. You're one of the few YouTubers that I've been watching that for, like, over five years that has, that I haven't been like, oh, you suck now. Ethan DeKline was one of my favorites back in the day. Guys, it's just a fucking blah, just getting worse and fatter and like, just pop, blah, it's just nothing up there, slow, can't, just lying every day. Just the worst podcaster ever. This is, this is, uh, sucks. People thrive on negativity. He's the perfect example of that.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You did hear what he said about the gym? Like, why would I waste my time in the gym? Well, that's the, that was the thing I had with Ethan specifically. The beef that I had with Ethan was he related, and this was my, I said this on the podcast with Mike and Jeff, was he related the gym and my need to keep the gym open. He's like, well, it's just the same thing as laser tag. Yeah, yeah. No, he said this. I remember listening to him say this and I was like, okay, this.
Starting point is 01:07:39 he's delusional like this is nothing he goes he related the necessity the essentialness of a gym and what it can do for someone's physical and mental health to laser tag and that's the conversation that I want to have with him in person but he wants it on a Zoom call because he's a pussy if he did it in person you would the whole shit would fall
Starting point is 01:07:57 apart it would crumble he's afraid he can't have confrontation he's never had a debate he talks about he has a political platform and it's too afraid to to debate his beliefs and that's the example of just Twitter cancel culture and a person. Here's the thing to me.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I'm not even coming, this is not even coming from a political standpoint or from a right or left or any of this, like the virus bullshit. None of that, bro. Straight up from like my own
Starting point is 01:08:20 literal life experience and what the gym meant to me and what I know it does physically for the human body and the importance of it and the essentialness of it and me going, okay, how much this means to me
Starting point is 01:08:30 physically and mentally and what it did for me in my life, explain to me how you can go to your audience of millions and millions of people and say, might as well just do laser. that's what irked me the most yeah that's really stupid and so so to me like i said that's that's the thing that i was like that's why he doesn't want to have it's lost but it's
Starting point is 01:08:48 it's really it wakes you up to the fact like guys like this have some of the biggest platforms and some of the biggest podcast it shows like how many people out there exactly so that's a fucked up thing though it's like and i can't say without a doubt i can't go every single thing that this guy says is bullshit i can't say that but i don't know because i'll say it every single thing that comes out of his mouth is bullshit i haven't seen enough all i saw was what I saw in relationship to me literally like I've seen a few videos back in the day no I never watched I'd dude I'll be honest with you I I never watched anyone's content the only content that I ever watched was Fusi too because that was the first guy helped me get started domizetti because that was the
Starting point is 01:09:22 that was the only gym related content way back in the day I watched him reps for jesus I watched those pieces of content I watched some of the tally back in the day and then once I started making content I only watched content that I made and that I made with other people like the knuck boys steve stuff I never consumed other content. So I can't sit here and say, I know what that guy said or what he said. All I can say is I know what he said about me and I would love to talk to him about it in person.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Straight up. Yeah, I could tell it's genuine too. I would just like to roast him to be honest. Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Maybe I need, that's where I could like grow off that.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I just be like, ah, fat ass. But let me, you know what I'm saying. Okay, okay, okay, okay. See,
Starting point is 01:09:58 coming from a place like I just, I saw his Ethan decline. Like he used to be funny. He talks, I remember just reacting to a video the other day. He was talking about how, like, H3-HU productions will never be a place where I pick it aside. I want to have freedom of speech. This is going to be, he was just like all animated.
Starting point is 01:10:12 He's talking about how he's never going to sell out. And then he voted for Hillary. And then just since then, blah. Yeah. And it's just coming from like a former fan. Like, what the fuck happened, man? But that's the thing, right? We, we evolve.
Starting point is 01:10:26 We grow. And then some people just grow in ways that are, grow negative. Like, he's in decline. You just got to. You told me how to fucking lift weights. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't, want to like genuine I used to watch I taught I never had a trainer like when I was when I was like 17 18 I didn't have a trainer so I would watch your videos about like incline bench and everything and your form and you would talk about like how your scapula and stuff like that and how to like tuck your back in the gym I'd be watching Brad Martin's videos like okay like I'm doing it right now like you were my trainer like I'm just I'm having flashbacks now back to high school like and I went to a boarding school I had to like sneak out of the dorm to go to the gym because they closed it past a certain time and one time even got in trouble with the school because I don't remember what I did I think I made I made fun of a feminist or something.
Starting point is 01:11:06 To this day, still doing the same shit. I make it fun of a feminist who said, you can't have your gym time anymore. And so they closed down the gym for me. So I had to sneak out and go to the gym. And I'd be there alone like, like trying to become a man and stuff like that. And like watching your shit. Like dead ass, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:19 That's fucking cool. I'm grateful as fuck for that. Steve used to watch my shit too. That's how he found out about me. I mean, I'm grateful. I'm just like in a full circle on all this is like my whole thing of any of this was because like I was searching for guidance my whole life.
Starting point is 01:11:32 That's why I did everything that I did. That's why I do everything that I do. I wanted to know what it felt like to have it, and I'm looking for it, and I'm looking for it. And then I just became a person that people were like, oh, you're giving me that. And I'm just grateful to shit to even be here, have these conversations with you, to talk to you. And honestly, that's why I wanted to have you come on. I think the thing that I think the most about you, and I hope that you're able to find a way or a voice that allows you to continue to, we'll call it slide, slide through the current system. Because I don't want to see you get axed.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I don't want to see you not be able to make content. You know what I'm saying? Like unless there is a time when we go, oh man, here's the new platform, whatever, fine, go there, live there. But I think, I think voices like yours are important. I don't think, I don't think it's enough to go, this is the only way. And that's the only way. I think you need these back and forth conversations in order to grow as individuals and as human. So I'm just telling you this from like an older fucking, I'm fucking 33, 10 years older than you,
Starting point is 01:12:27 which is such a crazy concept because time flies. How old is Steve? Steve is 24. 24. Yeah. He just turned 24. Steve's young as fuck but it's like
Starting point is 01:12:37 I'm just encouraging you to like I don't know just not not I guess or I guess we're saying it just think more critically in order to like get your message or your thoughts out there to the world in a way that doesn't fully alienate people so that they don't feel like oh we got to attack that guy because that sucks yeah because then you
Starting point is 01:12:55 find yourself in a position where it's like you know you have to fight this other uphill battle which is just like there's different ways to go about it and I hope that you continue to find your voice and to learn to like to not you're not going to say okay i'm going back on what i believe or back on what i think but and this goes for everyone watching like don't be afraid to be your true self you know you kind of like that one um but like your truth yeah no you're stupid but like genuinely i mean it and and and allow like there needs to be some positioning continuously yeah like you got to be able to slide through
Starting point is 01:13:26 yeah exactly and that's the thing that i was talking about earlier that doesn't work yeah that Not with hate, but I've been attacking the attacks with attacks. Yeah. And that's what I was talking about earlier before we started the podcast was it's like friction is more friction is more friction, more friction. Like even when I talk about this Ethan thing, I don't go, fuck that piece of shit. Like in my like, there's like a whole side of me that's like that guy's a piece of shit, fat slob, right? No, straight up as a whole side.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But in my brain it goes, okay, even though I believe that to be true, that is not the reason why I have an issue with what he said. Right? But if I go, fuck that piece of shit, he said this shit. Then it's like, now I'm just adding like, I'm like, let's go back and forth and do this. It's like, I would love to just talk about a thing that I think is a good topic to talk about. And, and but younger me,
Starting point is 01:14:09 23 year old me would have been like, fuck that fat piece of shit. Straight up. I'm going to be better at that. I want you to be made. I've had debates where I've just like, just started like, shut up. You're probably vaccinated.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Yeah. So then, because then you just give, that's like what they want. They're like, I knew it. Fuck their guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It's like, bro, if you, imagine if you moved in a way that you said everything you needed to say. You got an approach with love. But people would be like, fuck, but I can't like, damn, it makes sense. Like, Tate was actually really, really good at this. He just also said some other shit that made people be like, wait, what the fuck? Which I was like, oh, man, I feel like he's, my opinion of him was he was doing this.
Starting point is 01:14:41 He knew that he was causing a controversy to get the people in. But he had a very good way of speaking that was like very, very artful. It sucks that people were talking about him in the past tense now. Tate was this. I know, it's crazy. I mean, obviously, he's still, I think he's still that guy. I know, but it's just like the biggest rise and fall. bro it was so fast it was that's social media now every like literally most search person ever
Starting point is 01:15:03 banned that was crazy because like let's i just talk about for one more second it's like dude this guy i remember i deemed that like 600k i was like they also do a podcast i want to talk to you um this was like months this is maybe like three months prior to like what's happening and he's like yeah i'm coming out stateside like December oh that cool i hopefully i could still do the pot with him um and then he went from like there to like so like 600 k to like so like six 700 k to like six million in like two three months two three months two months he just blew up and then he was gone i was like dude he was getting he was getting kiley jenner likes he's getting like millions of likes i was like this is fucking crazy yeah like i've never ever you've never seen this no one's ever
Starting point is 01:15:42 seen anyone grow that fast on social and the the part that sucks is tristan uh i've been talking to tristan tate and he's saying like it doesn't even matter to them that they got been like we don't care i'm going on a hot tub where i've got all these girls we're gonna go on a yacht in croatia the voice is so funny i'm gonna be quite busy i've got a date and then And me, like, if I get banned, bro, like, how am I going to make money? Yeah, I saw a clip. I saw a clip of someone. Someone was saying that to you.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I forgot where they were like, who was saying that to you? Where, like, you kind of do have to watch yourself because you don't, you don't have, you don't have, you don't know. I'm not a fucking multimillionaire like them. It's like, shit. I just got a new place and bruckle. Yeah. That's why I'm telling you. You got to learn.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I'm going to figure it out. I got my creativity kit. I got my, um, my course and everything. It should be good. I got, I got my audience. They'll find me. And I got a plan. Yeah, I think I'll be able to work around it
Starting point is 01:16:28 You will I believe in you man Yeah, you have to I'm not gonna give up I'm fucking proud of you Thank you for coming for real Yeah, free my Twitter Free my Twitter, who's the
Starting point is 01:16:37 Elon? No, no, no, no, he didn't It fell through I don't know, yeah, I fell through I don't know who owns Twitter Yeah, I have no Actually, I think it's some like conglomerate in the Middle East or something
Starting point is 01:16:46 Habibi Yeah, yeah, stupid, okay I actually don't know Whatever It could be fucking, we're out of here It's probably gone I don't do whatever subscribe to the channel raw talk every tuesday 11 a m i love you guys i'm on spotify i'm on
Starting point is 01:16:58 tuesday i'm on all that good shit check it out show some love drop a drop a like drop a comment if you're on itunes drop a little review i don't even know what the fuck is on spotify but do whatever's on there to make it be more cool right that's it that's it sounds good yeah make it better improve it yeah like add value to it like through like good comments or good likes or just subscribe or all that like add the button it's probably a plus sign or you can leave a negative comment and you can hate forever and you could be this is dumb and you watch three hours of people talking and then you hate it you can do that too no no those people will watch four minutes and be like fuck these guys i'm out there's some people who watch the whole thing now and still psychoanalyze they
Starting point is 01:17:34 they'll watch like me like four hours on fresh and fit i hated that you said there for four hours anyway we're out of here i appreciate you guys thanks for coming man peace yeah

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