RAWTALK - SOMMER RAY & BRADLEY MARTYN FINALLY TELL THE TRUTH

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

Take a trip down memory lane with Bradley Martyn & our lovely guest Sommer Ray. Believe it or not these two have been friends for 8 years & counting. They catch up on their life, relationships, busine...ss ventures, evolving & growing on the internet. Throughout the pod you will learn and explore the journey these two have been on. You guys will finally know the truth when they tell their story…SPONSORSHttps://getroman.com/BradleySUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

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Starting point is 00:01:52 no i asked since i literally last talk to you i think it's like almost two years maybe yeah fuck no maybe we saw each other somewhere in like brief passing yeah what have you been doing you know just chilling in a wiggling yeah what the fuck is that mean wiggling what like what like what i don't know i heard it in a movie one time yeah maybe i thought it was having fun okay yeah well i'm a i'm a little tipsy because i drank uh half a seltzer i'm embarrassed um but i wanted to i wanted to talk to because i thought you had a celsius no no it was a It was like a fucking spritzer drink. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Bradley with alcohol. I'm a little embarrassing myself. He's a little pussy. Yeah, it's okay. Anyways, we'll stop. If anyone knows, I do. Oh, God. I actually want to tell that story today, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Really? Yeah, I think you tell that story. I'm going to tell it, like, officially. There's a real story here. But before we get... You know, I've ever told anyone that story? I know. It's one of the most embarrassing stories of my life.
Starting point is 00:02:51 But I'll tell it today. We'll talk about in a second, though. You guys are going to have to wait. But before we get into this. You and I met, I think you were 18 years old when I met you. This is like eight years ago now. Dude, that's crazy. Yeah, you're 26 now.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It's like almost a decade. It's literally almost 10 years. And I met you through the internet. I don't know if you remember. I think we, the first time I think we ever hung out, we were like at some fucking, I feel like we're at like a mall down in like Santa Monica somewhere. And you were still at that like manager kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And we hung out at one house that I was staying at. And I don't know. Yeah. yeah that was crazy I do remember it was just so it was like it feels like it was forever ago but then also it feels like it was yesterday isn't weird like time is weird very a lot of shit a lot of shit has happened too yeah and a lot of shit has changed um I'm curious because I guess kind of jump right into this you you I mean literally eight years ago the internet was a completely different place like similar but different I feel like it's like night I feel like it's pretty much like
Starting point is 00:03:51 night and day today today yeah like just like everything's changed Like I feel like we like back in the day like weren't really like respected or like in business or anything everyone was just kind of like oh these kids now it's like influencers are like the like thing but like then no one really like you know we're like definitely pioneers yeah no for real I I I keep seeing more and more things like the like Mr. Beast you know 100 million on YouTube there's certain influencers are now like creating companies that are starting to compete with like big time companies. Where like, like you said, when we first started this, there was no, there was no roadmap. There was no, like, structure. There was no, like, examples of people who were doing big things in the industry. Because it was, the industry was being created in the last literally like eight to 10 years. Right. And I think it's cool to see that.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Obviously, like, I remember when I first started doing it, like, people were telling me, like, you're fucking crazy or this or that. But I wanted to ask you, like, being a woman, obviously, and kind of coming from a position of where you first, started where everyone's like this girl she's beautiful you did fitness stuff and her butt's nice and that kind of evolving into what you're doing now because I know you're doing some more stuff like brand stuff on the back and like you have more companies like you've evolved into and a lot more what is your perspective on like social media like and how has it changed over time I think it's just so I mean like what I was saying about it's more respected now and like
Starting point is 00:05:22 I remember like no one had brands like no influencers had brands and I remember our first meeting you were like you need to like create brands and like brand yourself and like no one was really doing it it's all about the content and blah blah but now like every influencer like someone blows up like yesterday and then tomorrow they have a brand it's like crazy but like I was like definitely you're one of the first like have a clothing line and then I have a clothing line and we're like definitely one of the first ones to like do that yeah now everyone has clothing lines and brands and I which is really cool to see it's awesome that we can like do that um but yeah i think it's just
Starting point is 00:06:02 i don't know instagram everything just changes the apps change like the way you grow the way everything is just so weird and so different yeah yeah i mean do you like it better now or then i mean then to be to be transparent then it was everything felt more wide open like it felt like there was less because because it all becomes uh financially driven right like these apps grow into these big massive networks where it's like, oh, okay, you know, we know that these creators are like making money. So like they almost start to remove, it seems like remove, I don't want to say followers, but they remove engagement or they affect the way that your posts are seen by people. Yeah, they're doing that. You know on Facebook how it's like boost post or whatever and
Starting point is 00:06:44 you can pay to like boost it to your followers. They're doing that on Instagram too and they want to start making you pay to like get your content to people. But yeah, back in the day it was just so fun and I think it was more fun and you're just growing and now it's like everyone's too involved in it I feel like it was like a world that a lot of people weren't tapped into yet and now the whole world I think understands it more and wants to be an influencer so it's like back then it's like people were like what the fuck are you doing like what are you doing like no one understood it and now I think there's kind of more of a blue book for it like a blueprint so people are doing now it's just when too many people get involved it's not as fun yeah because it's not
Starting point is 00:07:24 fun anymore it's still fun but yeah yeah I feel you it just becomes more like money driven because a lot of people see it and they go oh I can make money I know people are doing it for the wrong reasons like me I got I didn't know what it was gonna be like there was no blueprint there was no person I could look to and be like I want to be like them you know what I mean I was just doing it and it just kind of happened and it was but now it's like they're like now people are like oh I want to do exactly what she's doing and like you know what I mean it's just like now they're just doing it for the money and like this is gonna be my career
Starting point is 00:07:52 this is going to do that so yeah I think it's not like authentic a lot from a lot of people like it was very authentic when we began because we were just doing what we do like we work out we like that was just my life and I just was like oh I want to post on social media I want to like show people what I do in my life um so yeah and yes it's completely different now definitely people get into it for like like I said it seems like they get into it just because they see the money or like the what it could be financially and they're like oh I want to start doing this for that yeah Instead of like, like you said, I know for sure when I got into this,
Starting point is 00:08:25 because it wasn't a money thing, because I didn't even know that I could make money doing it. I was just doing shit like you said that I actually enjoyed. Because now it's like, now you get paid on Snapchat, blah, blah. And like Snapchat has always been like my fate. I love Snapchat. I just post whatever. I don't even watch it.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I just post it. Now you get paid on Snapchat from just posting. I'm like, and now you can get paid on Instagram. You can pay all the things. And we never got paid for like the six years. I've been on like all these platforms. I never got sent from posting or anything. And now everyone's making, it's like crazy, but how it's changed.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Like everything is monetized. Everything's that, it's just like, wow. But it's like you have to just like also have love for people that want to do it. And like, because it's like, obviously if I saw it, I'd probably be like, I want to do that because that's sick. You know what I mean? Because you can make money just posting about your life or whatever. But yeah, it's definitely oversaturated though.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Like everyone in their mother is an influencer. That's what I'm like, please. I don't really. want to be called an influencer like i don't know i feel like what do you want to evolve into because that's my question i kind of want to get into is like you've done this for so many years i've done this for shit literally more than that like more like i've been doing this for the last 12 11 years right and you've been like the last eight years so i'm not comparing it but i'm just curious like where do you where do you want to see yourself growing into like what like where do you
Starting point is 00:09:43 see yourself progressing to yeah it's just crazy because like 18 year old me like like i used just be like so obsessed with like you know I still love to work out and like post my body blah it's like weird how like when you grow you kind of like change and what inspires you is a little different I'm just like really getting into like building my brands obviously my businesses and like fashion and like beauty and all that kind of other fun stuff so yeah something's kind of been a part of your life the whole time yeah it's been there the whole time but I haven't really and also it's kind of hard when people see you as a certain thing and like you don't want to change it because then it's like everyone's like people put you in a box and they want you to
Starting point is 00:10:21 stay in your box and the second you start they're like what that what the how what is she doing but it's like it has been me this whole time like I'm not just going to be like 40 years old like in a bikini on Instagram like maybe I mean my mom is yeah yeah I mean I'm always gonna have that aspect that is like what I love but I just like I like to add to it you know yeah why do you think people always try to put you in a box like not you just specifically but like people in general yeah I don't think people maybe like what they're comfortable with so it's like they think they know you for something and then they're people hate change and they hate you know what i mean so they're like what no and then
Starting point is 00:10:56 yeah they don't want to um see you be anything but that or like they're mean or like i don't know like people people are funny yeah but also what i'm really getting into is um like DJing and stuff yeah i was gonna ask you about that yeah so it's just like i've always wanted to do something in music and I've always kind of been like a little hesitant because it's like I don't want people to be like oh she's doing it like you know it's like it's like another thing like doing something new it's always a little scary because everyone wants to put you in a box and not have to do anything else but I mean I used to get paid back in the day for just standing in the club and stuff a lot of money like OG Instagram days you know um the good old days the good old days dude the way
Starting point is 00:11:40 you got paid and everything there's no like stats or anything it's like oh yep here's a fucking PayPal, but I used to get shit and cash is the best days. I would get like a stack of cash for going into a club type type. It was great. But now it's like I want to not just be the hot girl that's like standing in the club. I want to like do something like and I can play me. I love music like I love playing so I've like actually been taking like the last two three years really learning the board and like really doing it for real because I'm not going to be like the type to just like plug in like and push play and like not. actually do anything like I actually mix and it's pretty fun because I have been going like I did
Starting point is 00:12:19 it at Bootsie the other day and like they were like actually blown away like that I'm actually DJ because like a lot of people like that don't actually DJ. You're not just to press the button. Oh no I'm mixing like I'm like sweating and stuff because it's like at club too you have to like you don't want it to overplay because then people get a little bored so you have to have to it's a process it's like fun it's like it's actually kind of like work. So how long are you done this for? I'm just I didn't want to start like doing it like doing it. like live until I actually knew how to DJ. So I've been learning for like two years and like kind of trying to get my confidence
Starting point is 00:12:52 up to do it too because it also goes to the, you know, it's kind of hard to put yourself out there sometimes. So I was kind of, I don't know, but it's like I have to just do it. You know, it's passion, it's fun and I have to like not take it so seriously because people want to hate or say whatever. It's like, guys, I'm just playing some music. Like, let me be and it's fun to work the board. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah. So I imagine they're probably saying shit like, why are you doing this? Just be posted photos. Oh, yeah. It's weird. They think like, oh, this is the next step in an Instagram model's career. Like, fuck, sure. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:13:22 It is definitely a thing. I mean, I realize that, like, even with the stuff that I've done over the years, like, you like you said, people want to put you in a box. A lot of times it just comes down to, like, that person's own, like, insecurities with what I think they might be capable of. Yeah, I think that everything also just comes from, everything is a reflection of someone. Like, how they act and what they say and everything is just a reflection.
Starting point is 00:13:43 of how they feel about themselves or you know what I mean so it's like a happy person is never going to say anything mean or anything so I always just I I've always been I've always said that like not letting that stuff get to me and I just feel bad for people when they're mean because it's like I'm not mean it's not hard not to be mean you know what I mean like it just people just shouldn't be mean but also it's just everything when's going through something that you don't know about yeah you know what I mean that's a fact that's a fact we all go too fucked up shit how when were you at let I just go through that like when were you at your lowest point and then we'll talk about when you're at your highest point like through all this because eight years right it's a very long time have you ever had like a super low it's just crazy because honestly my crazy ass it's like every it's like it's like it's like it's like a good like six months I'm like I could have like a horrible six months it's like and like it can go I don't know it's just like this like it's never like I don't know I think um yeah no it's just I don't think there's like a certain time that was like my highest month I think it's just like I have a
Starting point is 00:14:43 have really good moments and then some low moments, but I never really let the low moments last too long. So it's not really like a really, really low moment. Does that make sense? Guys, I'm really tired too. Like I'm running on like two hours of sleep right now. So just so you know, do I seem low. No, not at all. Am I usually more? Usually I do podcasts and people are like, is she on drugs? Because I'm so like this, but I'm usually pretty hyper, but I'm really tired. No, you seem great. I actually got hit in the face the other day. Did you see that video on Instagram? But did you hit it? I got in a fight. Yeah, I got to fight.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Leave the fuck. No, I can't even get a fight. No, it was a dumb ass. Yeah, of course, of course. It was like a stupid lifting video, like where I was like pressing a girl. And then, you know, she was standing on the plate and I'm pressing it and like is like a bumper plate. It was a little mushy. And then she kicked the plate off and just smack me.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'll show you the video after the pod. But that's why my lips fucked up and like I look super. Oh, I didn't really notice. Okay, cool. I thought maybe you just needed some chapstick. I'm like, you know, Bradley's a fucking chapstick. Yeah, yeah. No, it's been like.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I'll show you, I'll show you later so you see it, but, um, so okay, so you've never really had like a super, remember when, um, I was around, I think in the first days of those videos that you started do when I was in some of them. I think you've really taken it to the next level nowadays. Yeah, yeah. And I've also like, I, that was like I finally got hurt. Remember you did it on the hoverboard? Yeah, you and the two girls up here. Yeah, dude. I was so scared. Like, I do not like that. Like, I'm honestly looking back, I'm like, we're so lucky that you didn't get hurt dude the whole time I knew I was gonna I was like guys I'm gonna die like I'm gonna die like I'm not really willing to die for the content sorry I've really done some dumb shit looking back for sure and it's always worked out one of the first ones I don't know how many you did before me but remember at the goals gym in Venice and I was and I was like jumping on the things and I was on my back yeah yeah I think that was like one of the very first videos yeah that's crazy fuck it's such a long time ago yeah but yeah finally caught up to me I got it's so smacked. I'll show you the video after. I'm surprised you haven't gotten like more hurt because
Starting point is 00:16:46 no. No. Yeah. I'm honestly I'm fucking God. God. Thank you. He looked out for me for sure. I got lucky. But it's like it's almost like this happened. I was like maybe I should chill. Maybe this is like because like I could have lost my teeth. I could have lost like fuck my nose up. That's my worst fear. Losing your teeth. Yeah. I don't like if you like something happens to your teeth and you need like to have veneers or something. It's just never. You got to have those big horse teeth forever. You know that people do that shit. No people do. They have nice, the people, I have friends that have pretty good teeth normally, and then they go shave them all down and put on these, like, thick ass, I'm like, hey, why'd you do that? Why'd you do that?
Starting point is 00:17:22 I'm like, people are funny. I'm like, everyone's always striving for, like, perfection, you know what I mean? Like, they just can't, like, if, but I was like that when I was, when I was little, I always wanted veneers. I was like, I'm going to get veneers. My mom was like, what, you have perfect teeth? What are you talking about? And now a lot of people say that to me. So I'm like, why are, like, humans so like that?
Starting point is 00:17:42 We always want and want and want. Even if we have it, we still, it's so weird. I always think about that. Like, why people are like that? Yeah, because it's like, I remember back when I first started, I used to think, like, this is before anyone had, like, a million followers on Instagram. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I would be like, oh, my God, like, if I had a million followers, I'd be except for it.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Like, that's, like, my end goal is like a million followers. And then you get that. And then there's always something. Like, you know, like, at one point, I might think, like, oh, I'm good. But it's like, I'm just so not content with what I've built or whatever. And it's just like as humans, it's just like we always want, want, want more, more, more. Yeah, it's never enough thing. It's never enough.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You could literally be a billionaire and still like, you know what I mean? It's just crazy. It's like, when do you find like that like contentment with like, this is enough. This is good. I'm happy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you're so right. I mean, the truth is we're taught like in our, in this society specifically like Western culture,
Starting point is 00:18:35 we're taught to like always go and get more. And I'm, I myself, I'm not saying at all that I'm outside of that, because I fully live that, like, but I genuinely enjoy it. Like, I really do genuinely enjoy it. And, but I think most people are put into this, like, system where they feel like they have to, like, they just have to keep getting more, whether it be more money or like they want to look prettier or they want to look better. Like, it's never enough. And it's like, you know, the girls who get like the butt injections or like the lip injections, the next thing, you know, they kind of look like ducks or like their butt looks too crazy. And it's like, at what point where you like. an example of the wanting more and more and more.
Starting point is 00:19:10 It's always girls, too, that were, like, better before that. And you think, like, it has to be, like, kind of, like, a chemical imbalance or something in your brain that, like, they're looking in the mirror and thinking that's not enough or thinking that they didn't look good before. It's, like, I think it's, like, an obsession. Like, because it gets to the point where it's like, babe, like, you think this looks good? Yeah, well, it's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's fucked up because it is also, this is the interesting thing about it. It is also related to, I really genuinely believe, social media like because we're constantly like every time you get on there you it's a highlight real right it's been this way for years yeah talked about this before but it's the constant like you're outward you look at someone else's life like what they look like or what they have and you're like you relate like almost their age to your age you're like damn this if this 18 year old and I'm 18 he has that I should have that or or if I'm 25 and he's 18 he has more than me how come he has more than me and this constant like comparison it's all about comparison
Starting point is 00:20:03 which is causing people to like continue to like push themselves down really really down roads, like they don't necessarily think want to go, but they think they need it to, like, be at some sort of status or stature. Yeah, I think it's like not a natural, normal thing. Like, we as humans weren't made to have these screens in front of us, constantly showing us everyone's better life, you know? No way. Like, I remember even when I was a little girl, and I would be at, like,
Starting point is 00:20:25 I didn't really, I grew up with, like, no cable and, like, a ranch, like, really didn't see a lot. But when I would, like, go to the grocery store and my mom would be, like, on the checkout and I have the magazines and all that stuff, I'd like see the women and stuff and I'd be like want my mom to buy it and I'd be like wanting to look like them and like all this stuff like I literally remember this time that I like went into the I like thought I was going to like make myself look like one of these girls it was weird because we as little kids like our brains are just crazy like you know what I mean we like don't know ourselves so we don't know the value in ourselves really yet so we think everyone else is better blah blah and I think that's kind of always a mentality but like I can't imagine because I know what that did to me as a little girl even with those magazines so I can't imagine what it is for these girls now and then when I talk about it I feel bad for girls blah blah people are like summer you're probably the problem you are the problem but it's like well I can't like not do what
Starting point is 00:21:19 I do because of that but the thing is I do stay natural and I do work out and I do want to be a positive like a positive yeah I got to say this like you you actually you've never done any I don't want to call it weird shit but you've never done you've never done your live like you've never done that stuff. You know, you've always been natural since I've known you. Right. Like, yeah, you aren't where makeup here or there, but like you've never like done any of that. So like, why would you give off that? Just because you looked good and maybe because you posted it. Yeah, well, I think people like, because you're posting that you look good and then other girls are comparing themselves, blah, blah, blah. So it's like, there's a piece of different sides to
Starting point is 00:21:56 every, like everyone can have a different perspective on everything and everyone can come and say that, whatever but I don't feel that I tried to do that to girls I would love to be a good example for them and motivate them and want them to work out take care of themselves blah blah I want to be a good example that you don't need that stuff like like you know I always want be you and like be real like that's my always been like my saying but I just feel for girls kids in general I feel for the youth like that they have to grow up with this because I didn't grow up with a phone I didn't grow up you definitely didn't grow up with the phone we didn't yeah you got here Why are you going to age me like that?
Starting point is 00:22:33 No, I'm just saying. Like, my sister is 31, 32, and she, like, where I think she was, like, the last generation of, like, really not growing up with a phone. Yeah, I'm 33. Yeah. So, yeah. So, um, because I had a phone when I was, like, 13.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I got, like, an iPhone when I, my mom got one, but we were, like, play on it. And I didn't fully get my own phone, like, iPhone until I was, like, 15, 16. Yeah. But, um, these kids are having these phones when they're, like, coming out of the womb. And at the, at the delivery room, they're, like, handing them on iPad so it's just like ooh like it has to be so tough because it's tough on my mental health like I'm always I compare myself and I'm always scrolling and looking at other girls and people would think like oh she probably would never do that blah blah but it's like it doesn't
Starting point is 00:23:17 matter like everyone does it and everyone has insecurities and it's just it's just yeah you know what you know what I think it comes down to and I was talking about this in other podcasts and like like I was on the full send I do the podcast with them and I said this on their podcast and I feel like I've talked about this before on mine with another guy named Sneiko when I was in Miami but it comes down to the obviously the age thing you can't control this which is crazy because kids are giving these phones so early but it comes down to critical thinking because what's happening like what would you say you see most on the internet nowadays like as far as content just curious yeah like of what videos of what do you see
Starting point is 00:23:57 most on like you just see what do you see most of um to be honest i really don't i don't ever get on ticot amazing holy shit i don't it's really bad for my mental health like i go like i have like my assistants like if i need to do like sounds i like say like hey can you find me a sound for this like i really i felt like ticot really messed my mental health um like a lot so i never get on ticot and when i'm on instagram you know how you can snooze the post from like Like, you know, if it has a suggested post, like, if you're scrolling and you see, like, a post from someone, you're like, I don't follow this person. I'm like, because they're trying to, like, put, like, other people's posts on your page, like, like, how TikTok kind of look for you. And I'm like, no, I snooze it for 30 days because I don't want to see.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I just want to see my friends. So, I don't know. Or, like, people I follow. Um, so I don't know. Okay. I don't really. I don't really. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:49 No, so that's, that's amazing. Your fucking mental health is probably like, way better. Yeah. And I have, and I started seeing a therapist and stuff. I'm like I'm a little cuckoo sometimes so yeah no it is it is good mental health is like really really a thing that like you have to work on it like you know what I mean just like your body and just everything like you have to like work on your mental health yeah just like having someone to talk to and you know this bitch likes to talk yeah so shit I got I want to finish this point
Starting point is 00:25:17 but I also want to talk about this mental health thing so uh I'm gonna come back to the mental health thing right after this but I think that this is what I was going to say on the internet now everything is like clip driven everything is like just you only get an excerpt of someone's life right so if you see a clip for example um where someone says this right because let's say it's a popular clip and it does well and then like it kind of picks up and you see it and then you take it for what it is and you go okay like this is important right people are being taught like what's important versus what's not important based on like how good it does on the internet because like now everyone sees it so if you see a clip it's got it's gone viral because like someone says something that's like you know
Starting point is 00:25:58 you know about the Andrew tape thing right no okay so like guys I don't really stay up to date with stuff dude that's amazing we're gonna talk about that in a second with the mental health stuff but the point being is that like on the internet today like everything is so now closely tied to like what does well and then just continues to kind of do well and like also what you watch you continue to see more of it so it kind of puts you down this hole like oftentimes very negative hole because a lot of times like more negative stuff seems to rise to the top like things that bad that happened like I post this video me getting smacked in the face like fucking my lip up and it's like viral because it's like bad happen we're all watching this right just a small example but my point is you tend to see like like like I said either the negative stuff or like something that you know maybe they're saying something that's kind of like controversial and it tends to rise to the top of everyone's like on TikTok for you page or your explore page etc and I think the reason why people get so caught up in like looking or being a certain way because like it's pushed that content let's say specifically in this case for women like the overly sexualized stuff will always kind of rise to the top because it's getting more engagement and it just keeps rising and so then it's like making women think oh I have to look like this I have to have lips like this or butt like this or whatever and obviously some people maybe they'll try to blame you because like you posted that kind of stuff but it's like that was just you you weren't like I really was a pioneer There's so much of that. No, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It's crazy. I remember when I posted pictures like that, the videos and stuff, people were like, like, do you remember? Like, dumbfounded. Like, this bitch is really posting this? And now you can go to any girl's page. They have at least a few belpies. Like, buttpigs.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Do you remember that video of you in the street and you were jumping rope? Mm-hmm. That shit went crazy. Oh, the one when I'm like the, with the Nicky's song. Yeah, I think Jay did. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, no, it's crazy how like, you can like, really.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I don't know. It's just like the videos and all that kind of stuff. I really like empowered that movement. I'm like, I don't know if I should be proud of it or not. Yeah, it's a little bit. It's like one of those things too for me morally.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I'm like very like it's hard because I feel like everything is like very contradicting in my life because it's like I always want to live like a. No, you're great. You're making a good point. You're leading me to another thing I want to talk about. Because it's like for me, you know I don't sleep around or like anything. Like I'm very like like that.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Like so I like to. post my body and stuff because I worked fucking hard for it you know what I mean like I've like my I've dedicated my life to like working out blah blah competitions all that so for me it was never sexual I wasn't like oh I want to pose my body I want to post this video and like shake and like like you know like all these guys lust after me but it's always been about like I look good and like I worked hard for this you know what I mean it just kind of contradicts with like my religious stuff because you know my relationship with Jesus and then like what I've done and like people or like what you i've created but then i'm like i don't know like that's for me like so it's like a
Starting point is 00:28:57 very contradicting thing in my head all the time like i always kind of feel like from it but then it's like my mom like and then i have to have like talks with people like they talk me like okay it's fine like i don't know it's just you know what i'm saying i might be mumbling not really making a lot of sense so so here's the thing that i was going to bring up kind of based on what you're saying like you made content that that you knew obviously was getting engagement here's where it gets interesting like i said that people are so engaged with like certain bits because of like the butt or like the thing that's controversial and it gets the view so people just see that.
Starting point is 00:29:29 This is what I'm talking about, the problem with all this and social media that's created this like clip mentality, I'll call it. Like people don't have the critical thinking. But at the same time, the thing that was, that I find interesting about you is like right now you sit here and you say, but I'm also this person and I believe in this
Starting point is 00:29:45 and these are my morals, et cetera. This is where it gets fucked up is because people don't get to see that because they only see the part that's getting popular and viral of you. But the thing is, if I were to go on social media and tell everyone that I love, geez. You know, people don't follow me. People would be like, you're like, no, hate this bitch. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I can literally sit down, like, do this really profound video, put a lot of money into it, and, like, have this amazing message that's, like, very empowering and, like, blah, blah. Ew, everyone's like, this is disgusting. I can literally put my phone right here, shake masks for 1.5 seconds. And literally, but it's just like, why are humans like that? just like that's just been always the time though it's always been around all all the time because think about when we're in line when like you're at the grocery store and you see all the things when we were younger that was kind of like our news it's always bad stuff bad stuff
Starting point is 00:30:33 that stuff when you're on the tick like on the snapchat news it's always bad everything's bad they don't they don't say like oh this girl did this and she's empowering this and she's amazing no it's like oh i could go do something i could make my businesses do my donate all the money to charity and do no one's gonna care everyone's gonna i can literally like summer ray dates this guy and fucks this guy and then dumps it like and everyone's good back wow what she do like it's so like one time when like back in the day like years like seven eight years ago like one of my managers was like asking like how like i can get on like some tabloids or whatever and they're like summer needs to be pictured with a celebrity like a male celebrity that's how these girls do it and
Starting point is 00:31:17 I'm like, bitch, I'm not doing that. I'm like, no, it's like, I don't ever want to be pictured or like popular based off like being seen with a guy. But that is like the world we live in too, like for females. Like the biggest females are popular based off who they've dated. Like it's crazy. It's like, no, not me. I'm like, I'm good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Did you see the Adam Levine stuff? Have you seen that? I've just seen. The thing that's really funny to me is the brands posting it and it's like a picture of their product. Holy fuck. This is absurd. Yeah, I was going to make one. Dude, this fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:31:50 It's funny. But have you seen the girl's video? Like, she outed it. Well, I didn't watch it. And I don't know. For me, I was talking about this with my friend the other day. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:32:01 I think that the cheating culture, like on social media is like absurd. And I'm like, is this going to kind of like help guys be like a little hesitant to DM every fucking bitch on the internet? You know what I mean? But then sometimes guys are stupid,
Starting point is 00:32:14 so probably not. But like, these guys like, Dude, like, back in the day it was really bad because now you can unsend messages. But you know, every athlete person in the world of DME. Oh, I know that, yeah. And, like, I've never applied to, like, anyone. Which is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Like, you really haven't. No, I haven't. It's fucking. No, because it's like, I'm not trying to fuck, you know. But if I had something that's some business proposal or, like, I want to make a song with them, then I'm going to hit them. But it's like, what, we're going to hang out and I'm going to, you're going to be upset because I'm not going to fuck you.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah. You knew what it was. I know what it is. Like, what I, what I am on. the internet and stuff it's like that's not really who I am as a person and like you know what I mean so I'm not like yeah I'm showing my ass but people get the wrong idea it's like just because I'm showing my ass or like whatever it doesn't mean you can like touch it or like do anything with it's like I don't know I you know I've always had like a different view of like my body and stuff
Starting point is 00:33:04 because like bodybuilding and my family I come from like a background of like bodybuilders who look at the body in like a very different way not sexualized yeah like my dad was my coach Like, I mean, the thong around him, you know, so that sounds weird, but it's... But to be fair, you did, you did somewhat sexualize yourself, of course, with the content you're right. You have, yeah, but it's like, it's like, um, it's not like I went into it thinking that, but it's like, yeah, it's sexual. It's like, it's like, it's fucked because, like... But it's not like, okay, you know, some girls do it, like, they're, like, spreading their legs and they do pose. I've never done, like, overly sexual poses.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah. And I've never, like, twerked full on. I, like, do a little booty jiggle. Like, me, and, like, and, like, like, and, like, like, like, I. Like, I've never. Is it because you can't twerk though? No, I don't want a twerk. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I don't want a twerk. I don't want a twerk. I've never even tried because I don't even want to twerk. That's a little too much for me. I have like a very like strict line of like what's not like what's too much for me. Yeah. And I want I want my grandma to send me my picks and be like you're still beautiful. She does that to all my photos.
Starting point is 00:34:04 So I'm fine. Like I don't want my grandma to be like what the hell is this. You know what I mean? I just wish there was like I along the way I think the problem like I said, the bigger problem comes from like just what social media makes rise to the top and the pressure to have to be a certain way. And my mom always says, like, you're not the one, like, you can't, like, you're not in control of what other people do or think or whatever. Like, if a guy's lusty after you, you're not in control of that.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But it is a hard balance because it's like, I like to feel sexy. I like to, like, but it's not like I'm doing, it's like, it's a hard, it's like a hard subject because some people can be like, oh, you do this, like, you want men, this list. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then from my point of view, so it's like, you just got to do what makes. you happy like I'm like whatever I just I guess I wish like there was a way that the content like this where you actually speak and you talk about it just rose to the top more oh no it won't it would not I could go on here and talk about someone cheating with blah blah blah and everyone's
Starting point is 00:34:58 like oh my god but you talk about this stuff no one cares you know what I mean so it's just like how do you think we how do you think people can change that because I think over time I do genuinely believe this over time people have cared more and more about that because I think people are getting tired of just that just that yeah i don't know i feel like no substance you know what i mean i feel like the music we listen to all the like rap blah no substance like where are the tupac's not only no substance i think also negative substance it's like the way they talk about women it's like we live in this like woke society of like all this stuff and then we let the like songs blow up that are like so talking so poorly about women and then that's okay i don't know
Starting point is 00:35:41 There's just so much stuff happening in the world. I'm like, I don't know. It's just like, I don't know. I'm like, the feminists aren't talking about these rap songs. Yeah, no, it's real. It's real. It is crazy. There's still like, torqueting shit to like they're like saying some roast shit about women.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I'm like, that's why it's like I kind of like rap, but sometimes I listen to it. And I have to turn my country back on. I'm like, the shit is too much. And I don't think people realize how much like the stuff you listen to, like just the words that you continuously play to yourself or even the words you can. continuously say, it affects you. It's so crazy to your brain. Like people who are like constantly listening to this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Oh my gosh. It has to be doing something to your, like the negativity, like in your ears, blaring out your like, I'm like in a bad mood when I listen to music. That's not like too positive. Yeah. Let's let's shift it a little bit. I want to talk about the mental health stuff. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:35 No, this is great. No, it's amazing. You know I like to go down some rabbit holes. And then I make like no sense. People. No, you definitely. This girl's like a little crazy. It's just, I think I have ADV bad.
Starting point is 00:36:45 You do, it's fine. Oh, I just realized that. Same, we're like the same. I just realized that. I've just got better at controlling it. But I don't want to take drugs. I was like, what's that thing that you take? Adderall.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Adderall. Do you think I should take that? I don't know. I'm really against drugs. No, no, no. But the thing is, is like, wouldn't it help me focus? Because I cannot stay like focus on one thing. Like my house, like, when I'm cleaning, I'll be doing something.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And then I'm like, in the other room, do something completely different five seconds. I never can, like, finish anything. Yeah, maybe, maybe it could help you do. I don't know. I do need some. I'm like, even when I'm having a conversation, like something else pops and then I forget about what I was just in and then I go and it's like I didn't end what I was just like so you're like, I made no point.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah. I feel like I'm the same way. I've just gotten better at just controlling it. Yeah, you're talking. I haven't been on a podcast. This is my first podcast since the last time I was like on impulsive or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I should. I'm glad you're here. I'm never talking. I never talk on podcasts or anything. So I'm a little rusty. No, you're great. You're great. And I've never been good.
Starting point is 00:37:43 But yeah, it's just a, the reason why I'm talking about I shift to the mental health in relationship to the thing we were just talking about is because like all the stuff and content and making it and being a part of it. And I know for years, because I've known you for years, you get that, you get a ton of negative feedback, you get a ton of positive feedback, people judge you, this and that. And I know you kind of just do your thing, but like where did you start to experience the most like issues with your mental health where you're like, I got to go see a therapist or I need to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Like when did you start to experience? out or like the realization of this is important for me to go figure this out more yeah I think that I mean I think the main reason to be 100% honest is why I want to see a therapist is like I'm just like bad at relationships I just that's fair I just break up with people like I can never like people think like I can't keep a relationship because like the guys want to I've never been broken up with and I do the breaking up with and like I just have like such a short threshold for any bullshit and I'll just drop you and and like move on like it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And it's just like, I can't be like that. And I think it's from a lot of trauma. And I think it's from some like, family issues and like things that. Like your upbringing? Yeah, like I think people don't realize how much stuff that affected you when you're young. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah. So I probably, you know, no one's family's perfect. We all go through like bullshit, you know? So definitely have some things in my family have probably affected me. And I just like do trauma work and stuff. What do you think those things are?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Have you gone through things that are like actually? Could you talk about it? I don't know how you feel about it. I don't know. I mean, it's just like, like parents, I don't know. I just, my parents divorce and all that kind of stuff. And just like, there's just a lot of like little things. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Like, I don't know. It's like, I don't want to like call people out my family. Like, you know what I mean? Like I start saying stuff. They're like, they can listen to this. So it's like, yeah, I don't want to like call anything out. That's fair. but I don't know I think things affect you that you don't even realize like even if like you don't think like you say it's like it's like it doesn't seem like it's a big deal but like little things really affect you like I have like bandamish all these guys I have things this is a fact we internalize stuff whether you say it out loud or not things that's a fact they do affect you so I was talking about therapist about it and like you like hold these it's like this trauma work thing and like you think about it can talk about things and it like does this like thing to your brain like just to work through trauma because like you have like the trauma you have like the trauma
Starting point is 00:40:10 Trauma gets like stuck in your brain. So like something that triggers it and it gets stuck there. And like that's how why you react because you don't even know why you're reacting or why that was a trigger. But it was something that happened so long ago and you're holding on to it in your brain. So you have to like work through it and like get it away. Yeah. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Absolutely. You're subconscious. I've gone into all this kind of shit because I have so much fucked up trauma. Yeah. Right. So yeah. It's just like stuff. So it's just bullshit.
Starting point is 00:40:35 You just have to work. Everyone has trauma. No one has a perfect like childhood or like. anything some worse than others but like everyone deals with stuff differently than others like i've dealt with stuff in my childhood way better than maybe my siblings did but it's all relative you know so i think that was definitely a time where i was like uh maybe i need some therapy because i need to learn how am i ever going to be in a happy healthy relationship if i'm always so like like you know what i mean what are the things that break it for you like it's not it's not enough
Starting point is 00:41:05 it's not enough it's not enough this it's not like communication yeah just not i mean maybe i picked the wrong guys do you know i don't have like a good like dating history um so funny it's just funny because i've legit known you for so many years because i i i've heard you know every single boyfriend i ever had because like when i moved here i was single i know um so yeah i mean that is a big thing like because it's like when you get older and stuff like i was like it's like overnight i feel like i'm 26 it's like what the fuck i always used to be like the youngest girl like everyone's like wow she's so young she's so young doing this it's so young and now i'm like the old bitch because like what the fuck happened and then during COVID they stripped us of two years yeah
Starting point is 00:41:43 I think we need those two years back we need that fucking rebate I'm not 26 I am 24 yeah they really you know I'm not gonna lie I was talking to I was talking to someone about this earlier like the the COVID switch like it really like almost felt like a time swap it was like a weird a weird time where it just went by so quick and dude it is actually fucked up though because I'm like I don't feel 26 because I didn't live like two years I have some more things I need to do to make me feel like a little bit more 26 you know what I mean yeah so I have a question like what you know when you that's what I wanted to ask you originally you were saying earlier about everyone kind of their timing is different as far as like understanding like that they have those like things
Starting point is 00:42:21 they push down what you think started or spawn like which maybe after which relationship were like you like you should start like dealing with this because it's that's the guy thing right you were talking about the relationship issue like what started that like I should go to therapy oh yeah I think before like I've never I've did a guys I've never really I didn't really care about the breakup and like I'm over it I think like my last one maybe I was a little bit more like fuck like you know what I mean like maybe I didn't want that to end you know what I mean yeah and if you think that you're the issue and then you I don't want to happen for my future relationship you know what I mean because like even if they don't
Starting point is 00:42:58 do something that bad like I'll I just am done like I just like don't take shit like I'm not very forgiving and I'm not I don't have unconditional love you You know what I mean? Like, I can love you and, like, if you're being perfect. But the second you do something to piss me off or fuck up or in any way, I have so many friends that are so forgiving. And, like, I'm like, bitch, I would not talk to that motherfucker ever get on your life. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Like, and it's not like cheating. Like, cheating and all that stuff is like a no forever. But, like, I'm not easy to do it in relationships for sure. And it's just something I want to work on. But, like, another relationship. The weird thing about it is, like, in friend relationships and everything else, I'm, like, most easygoing person ever. But in, like, my relationships, I'm very alpha. And it's like, I can't be like that.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Interesting, yeah. But in front, like, if I tell my friends that, they're like, what? Because in my relationship, like, my friends and stuff, I'm not alpha at all. I'm very go with the flow. Like, just like, laity, like, not really that care. But in relationships, I'm just, like, very, I just know. I think I think too highly of my significant other in a sense of, like, if I'm, you know, I'm claiming you and your, I feel like my specific other is like a version, another version of me.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Like we're like the same person, you know what I mean? So if I feel like disrespected in any way or I feel like they're doing something that's pissing me off for not making us look good or something, I get so mad. I think I just have too much expectations. You know what I mean? Like I just, I think I'm like a hopeless romantic too and I just want like the perfect guy that's going to give me all his time, love affection, like I'm like needy in that. kind of stunts and I will not put up with shit at all you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:44:42 I really want a loyal guy I'm very loyal so I want like a good loyal dude yeah but it's like that's a fucking rare Pokemon yeah I think that's uh that's an interesting one but ah fuck that that is that is really calm but it sounds like the thing that's interesting about this with you is like you it's almost like you want someone that's like perfect yeah but it's like but that's why I'm going to therapy you know that's an ego thing though right Oh, I have a huge ego in relationships. I'm not one to sit here and say I'm perfect. That's one thing about me is like, I will tell you how fucked up I am right now
Starting point is 00:45:14 and how I can be a little crazy, whatever. But, yeah, I'm not here to hide it. Yeah, no, for sure. I think the craziest bitches are the ones who say they aren't crazy. For sure, they are. Yeah, they're absolutely the craziest. I just like working on my, like, you just, as long as you're like trying to be better and do better, I'm always like down to be better.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You know what I mean? Like, I'm not like going to stay here. Be like, no, I'm perfect. Like, that was him. Like, he's a dick, blah, blah, blah. Like, no, it's like, I, the older I get, especially, I can be like, hmm, maybe I was a little wrong for that one or that. But I am a great girlfriend in so many other ways, so I can't put myself fully down.
Starting point is 00:45:47 But yeah. Yeah. So what if you learn, I guess, from your last relationship that you felt like, because if you look back and you're like that one, you were like, fuck, maybe I fucked up or maybe I could have done this differently. What do you think sparked that? Like, where that come from? When do you think you started to realize, like, I need to do this differently?
Starting point is 00:46:03 I think that, I think it's, just coming from like other boyfriends I've broken because I like I'll cold turkey just like fucking cold ass bitch just like never speak every ex I've ever had I've never spec to them they've all they've like mostly every single one of them have reached out to me on a countless occasions and I never reply I'll never talk to them again like I am like cold yeah and I think with maybe and I think I've never really been like fully in like love love love so it's like easy for me But what do you consider that? Like, how are you knowing that you haven't been in fully in love?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Like, how do you consider it love? How do you know you're fully in love? I don't know. Okay. I don't even know if I've ever been in love. I don't know. I don't even know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I really don't know. Because in every relationship I think that I am maybe, and then afterwards, I'm like, fuck. But, like, I think, like, maybe, I don't know. I think, like, I feel like the last one is, like, the first time I thought maybe it could, like, last forever. And then when it doesn't, it's, like, it would. Was it because of me? You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I see what you're saying. And then I'm like, it's just a, I'm in the constant cycle. And also another thing, too, I'm just single for I have to be. I always, we've talked about this before. You told me. Every single person in my life tells me I need to be single. It's like a big thing. And the thing is, like, I don't sleep around.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I don't do that. I just like, I'm a lover. You know what I mean? Like, I love to like have a boyfriend. You know what I mean? I love to like have that support system and have that, like have like your person like I like to have a person you know but it's just like I always get my I date the wrong guys for one because then I'm like I don't know I'm just crazy and I'm like I mean
Starting point is 00:47:47 people want to bring up my dating roster I'm like please stop I'm not proud um but I haven't had sex with most of them so um most of them I just I hear this one I hear this one about the MGK thing that's like do you never you didn't have sex with that guy no guys I'm not talking about him ever again Okay, we can cut that. We can cut that. It's fine. I mean, we didn't talk enough. I mean, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I'm just saying, yeah, no more talking. Well, look, I mean, I'll just say, fuck that guy. I hate that guy. You do? Yeah, I saw him at fucking Leo and Lilies. He walked in with fucking, um, that chick he's dating, uh, Megan Fox. And I saw Megan Fox. I told us around the podcast before.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I saw Megan Fox and I didn't see him. And I opened the door, like, we're open the door at the same time. And I was like, kind of drunk because I was drinking like, mimosas with my boys. Oh, he had one sip. No, no, no, legit. I had like, I had like four, four mimosas. But I opened the door and I go, oh shit, it's Megan Fox. Like just, I didn't see this guy with her.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And then I start to walk out. And then this, he looks at me like, this fucking idiot. What the fuck? Like, why would you say that? And I was a little drunk. So I got mad. So I turned around. I was like, fuck you, bitch.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I'll beat the fuck out of you. He didn't turn around. He didn't look at me. And then I kind of kept staring waiting him to turn. He didn't turn. But then I looked down. His daughter was there. So I was like, I'm not going to be an asshole.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But fuck, fuck this bitch. I'll beat the fuck out of my seaman person, straight up. But it has nothing to do with you, just because he was dickhead to me. Yeah, no, I never want to talk about it. Okay, we'll let it go. That for my life. Yeah. So, what was I saying?
Starting point is 00:49:10 I'm not sure. But what I do want to ask you, fuck, fuck all that stuff. No, I'm just saying I need to be single. I need to focus on me. I don't want to, like, get into another relationship. And I always say I want to be single. And then. Someone fucking pulls up.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Mr. Perfect pulls up. And I'm always like, no, I don't want a boyfriend. I don't want a boyfriend. And then something I, ugh. So I'm still. I'm single for like a while I'm gonna be saying that's fucking cap dude no no no I really am I'm really gonna be single for like a long time okay you know I see such a capper no I'm not I have a boyfriend like you're like two weeks no it's actually really funny no I'm really am trying to like that's also
Starting point is 00:49:47 what therapy is for like okay like I have to I the problem the thing is about it too is like I like I love being alone I love my lone time so it's not that I can't like some people need boyfriends because of like the codependent like they can't be alone i love being lone i love my little baths at home i have so many animals like i'm not alone do you take eps and salt baths no yeah oh wow wow oh yeah you know the doctor's the seal whatever his doctor teals yeah i have every flavor you can think up there's this one scent oh i eat it i'm gonna you eat that shit no you know the green tea one it's the best one it like candles and shit oh yeah i do the whole night i ice my face you should do the icing ice your face what the fuck are you talking
Starting point is 00:50:26 about. It's good for your skin. What do you mean? Oh, I get this thing from Amazon and you fill it with water and then you put it in the freezer and then you just pop it's like a little popsicle thing and I just rub it on my face in the bath because I people, girls do it like not in the bath but I hate being cold and it makes me cold so I take a really hot bath and then I ice my face and it's kind of nice. Damn. Yeah, I'm kind of like, it's like I don't want to admit this to the podcast but like I'm probably going to do that tonight. You honestly, well, how are you going to get it that fast? You have Amazon delivery on. I mean, I'm sure I can find that shit of like fucking some like beauty supply for. place there's like one down the street but you should start taking care of your skin guys need to take care of their skin yeah no I'm actually really bad at that yeah you know it's like a thing but but this isn't no don't don't you can't judge me on this right now no no I'm just saying like skincare like wash your face do some retinol yeah no I'm terrible take my gummies no I so we're got to talk about this but I'm terrible completely terrible I take care of my skin I just don't know why I just don't give a fuck it's not part of my routine well the thing is it's not as frowned about guys it's fucking dude dude I just don't
Starting point is 00:51:26 hate it it's fuck girls literally fucking have like this time taking time bomb and guys are like no chilling i don't know if i want kids they're like 50 i don't think about it in 10 years i'm like must be nice well it's i think it depends it depends on the success of the guy right because it's like some guys like probably but guys can have a guy can literally be like yeah i want kids at 70 no woman's going to be like yeah i'm going to pop out a kid at 70 yeah it's just like the eggs is not working that way no like we have a time clock because we have certain bodily functions out you guys as long as you guys are doing whatever and yeah yeah yeah he's so funny okay so let's talk about your skincare stuff when did you get into that um i've had it for
Starting point is 00:52:06 you have stuff for men um like a couple months ago i had it my one year do you have stuff for men i mean it's it's for both really yeah no it's so this is like fitness basically no the thing is so i wanted to get into the beauty space right but i don't want to do something like it's not um I'm like, I always like to be very authentic to myself, you know, so I'm not going to be like a makeup line. I don't really love makeup. I'm like, I like it sometimes, but like, I'm not like a makeup girl, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And I don't want to do like skincare, like topical stuff really because it's like I want to get more into like, I don't know. Like, how am I going to like, I don't know. I don't, I just wanted something really simple. Like I'm not like a huge, like I don't have like a 12 step program for my skin. You know, I'm not like sitting there with like serums. I'm very simple. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:53 My mom washed her face with shampoo when we were a little. She washed her bangs, because my mom has bangs, and then she would wash her face with the same shampoo. So I'm like, I like to keep it really simple. So all the serums and stuff, I'm like, that doesn't really make sense with me right now. Maybe I'll get into that kind of stuff. I like to, I'm kind of simple, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah. So all you do is eat two gummies a day. I mean, I wash my face, obviously, and I do, like, the little things. Imagine he didn't wash your face? No, I tell, because, like, we always tell me, like, all you need to do is take the, I'm then. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Like, still, like, moisturize, wash your face, like, do stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:24 But, like, I think a lot of people, like, the lot of the serums and stuff that you're putting on your skin, like, I would rather have the benefits come from within. You know what I mean? Because people think, like, they're putting on this stuff on their skin, but then they're not taking care of their body. And, like, our body, our skin is our largest origin. Oregon, origin.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And the real, like, your skin really is healthy from, like, the inside of what you eat and everything. It's affected by your diet. It's affected by that. So you could be putting on the most expensive cream in the world every day, but like if you're eating like shit and like not taking your vitamins and all that stuff, it's not going to do anything.
Starting point is 00:54:02 That's a fact. So I have, um, so it's just like good skin from the inside out. So gummies. Yeah, there's those little gummies and then so it's activated. So what if you just like the whole fucking thing? I mean, you're not going to do that. I mean, you're not going to get that.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm fucking trolling you. Um, Bradley. I'll kill you. I'm too tired for this shit. No, no, no, but you got to send me some. How come I don't have I don't have any? I know. I should have brushed them. I have a bunch
Starting point is 00:54:26 in my house. And then I have a hair one. So it's all, um, was that a dig at me? Wow. Oh, fuck. No, I don't. I'm like, I just, I bring only, I bring only the hair ones. I'm like, you need this motherfucker. Yeah. So it's just all like, I'm really like love mushrooms. So it's all mushrooms. It's, no mushroom, chugger mushroom. Okay. Um, Rishi mushroom. And yeah, so it's just a little blueberry gummy gummy.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Mushrooms are amazing, by the benefits of mushrooms are next level and these ones help your hair grow. Mushrooms are crazy overall. What about like magic mushrooms? Hmm. Do you like to take those? The thing is, is...
Starting point is 00:55:06 I love psychedelics. The thing is, is like, every single time I do it, I get a little paranoid. We're going to have to... Okay. What amounts are you doing? If I take the tiniest, tiniest bit,
Starting point is 00:55:20 But for me, it's not a social drug for me. It's like a very, like, intimate, like, I've only done them when I'm home at my house with my friend. I've only done it, like, two, three times. It's always, like, in my house or, like, a boy friend's up. It sounds like you've done an amount of them, right? Oh, yeah, I make tea and shit. Oh, you go, okay, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I love mushrooms, for real. But it's funny you said that, that you get the anxiety, like the paranoia of it. Because I've had that, too, with mushrooms, but I don't typically get that anymore, I think, is my experience with it. The thing is, if I do feel a little bit like that, I just like drink some alcohol or some wine and it evens it out. Yo, you threw me off. That's so funny. You're like, I'll just drink some alcohol.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Shit, that would make it worse for me because then I would be like, I'd be like double worried. I'd be like, wait, why do I feel dizzy even though it's because of the fucking alcohol? And then I would get bad. I don't get dizzy, though, on alcohol. Why do you get dizzy? Well, not like dizzy. Just like kind of wonky, you know? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I'm like a very heavy weight with alcohol. And you know that. And remember, was it me and you or me and Kyle who shot God Avere and I beat you? I think it was you. It was me. You didn't beat me though. Yes, I did. I have video proof.
Starting point is 00:56:28 It was so close and we just say that I did. Whatever. But let's talk about, let's talk about my story. You're not a drinking champion. No, I'm not. I'm terrible. We talked about my story when I was, it was actually one of the worst experiences in my entire life. Really to this day?
Starting point is 00:56:43 To this day. Wow. Yeah. So you're really going to, you're really, I remember like years ago, you were like, Hey, Summer, like, don't tell anyone that, blah, blah, blah, yeah, yeah. And now you're out here doing it on podcast. I'm going to tell it. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I got to tell the story. Yeah. I was always like, please don't tell anyone that. This is true. So, holy fuck. It's crazy. Anyways, Summer and I went to Disneyland with your manager at the time. And my mom, was my sister there?
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'm not sure. Maybe, maybe. No, I think it was my mom was there, no? I think so. I think so. But like, I don't. Maybe she wasn't there. No, it was, it was, yeah, I was like.
Starting point is 00:57:18 No, yeah, I don't think she was there. was there. No, maybe she was. No, she wasn't there. She wasn't there. I'm thinking of, like, another time that she was. So, yeah. Anyways, long so he's short, the thing that I knew about you getting into this was like, you're from like Colorado, you smoke weed. You were like really a heavyweight, like a major heavyweight. I don't know if you are now. I was the hugest owner. Like people, people are like, do you smoke? I'm like, no. I'm like, but like I did. Like, you don't smoke anymore? Easy. No, I haven't smoked for like two years. Yo, because you were like a beast. Like you probably outsmoke Steve will do it type shit.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I would. No, I'm telling you. I was next level. I could smoke outsmoke anyone like. Yeah. And then nothing to affect. I remember watching you being like, what the fuck? Because I was just getting into like trying any of this shit, right? So summer comes from fucking Colorado. And she's like a expert like with fucking marijuana, no problem. And she has this fucking gummy. Okay. So it was a little dancing bear. Yeah. My sister made me seem like a pussy when it came to marijuana. So you can just. know how crazy she was and she gave me those. Okay. They were like potent. But this is why it was bad, right? So imagine, if you guys got this camera, imagine the gummy was in his baggy like this and it was like flat against like a plastic background, right?
Starting point is 00:58:30 And you're supposed to pick pieces off and eat it. So when I eat this gummy, it's in this bag like this. But imagine it was so hot that day because like during the summer it melted down into the corner. Oh yeah. That's where I fucked up because you're like, I was like, how much is it? You're like, I don't know, just take a piece. And I just took a piece.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I probably like took like a condensed concentrated piece. Well, that's the thing with edibles is like you never know how it's going. going to disbuse when like into the gummy so you could take a little piece that's 10 or like 20 or like you don't really know it's kind of sketch if you're taking like a piece from like a one that that that was like really potent too like my sister and those were the best one they're like these little dancing bears I wish I knew that I wish I was like I told you that yeah but like you were like it's nothing like it's easy I mean yeah I guess I was like on another level of you were you were different I had this dab pen I would like put the dabs in it oh my gosh yeah you were different so anyways
Starting point is 00:59:17 this is this is also when I was first getting like actually introduced to marijuana. So I would get paranoid or like too high and the kind of anxious just from smoking weed, right? And this might have been like the third time I ever took an edible. But I don't think I told you that because I was like trying to like not look like a pussy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So anyways.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yeah, I don't think you told me that. I didn't tell you that. No. Anyway, so we're there and we're like everything was chill and fun. I remember we parked and kind of far away. I think I drove my G wagon and it. You only had it for like a couple of weeks or something. It was that red one.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Yeah. Yeah. And anyway, so we're, I don't remember when any, everything started to go really bad, but I'm talking about it was the literal worst experience in my life. Because the problem with, with edibles is like, you know marijuana, you smoke, if you smoke weed, you get hot eye and then it kind of like can dissipate. Like edibles just kind of keep going. And depending on how much you took it, like just keeps going and going. So I remember getting to this point where I was like, I couldn't see straight. I felt like I couldn't walk straight.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Everything was terrible. And I'm going to her and this, the manager kid. And I'm like, dude, I. I don't know I feel terrible like I'm and I'm like trying to not look like a fucking pussy in front of you because I'm all like embarrassed so I'm like because I remember before I told you I felt like that for like 25 30 minutes I was like I can't I can't say anything I like how anxious I was I remember you just being silent like walking and I'm just like so we're in Disneyland we're in fucking Disneyland and I remember when it really hit me it was it was like
Starting point is 01:00:43 starting to get nighttime and the fucking parade starts and so now there's all these lights So imagine like everything is so it's just too much everything all at one time and then I'm like Yo we got to go and I remember we're trying to get the fuck out of there. I'm going to the bathroom and some kids like trying to take a photo with me. I must look like a ghost because I was all pale scared like I'm convinced that I was going to die. Okay. So let me explain this to you guys. I was like I'm going to leave like straight up and I'm telling her at this point and we're like leaving like escalated so fast. It was first it was like you know and then before you know it we're like I'm driving too. Okay yeah this is this is this is this. This is, okay, but before we got to that part, listen, this is so embarrassing. We're, we're, you know, those big ass stairs in Disneyland? Like, you go up the escalator to get to your car, but this is where it got really bad because I was so terrible on the whole way out where I feel like I'm fucking dying. Like, I'm convinced I'm going to have a heart attack.
Starting point is 01:01:33 We like walk back to this thing and then we can't find because normally I'll always know where my car's parked, but I was so fucked up that I'm like, what floor was it on? So we're like going for floor to floor to try to find the car. Yeah, you were like, I don't know. Yeah, you were like, I don't drive. I definitely don't know. Yeah. And so now.
Starting point is 01:01:47 So now this is where it gets fucked, man. We're, we're like, I'm not, I'm like, I can't drive. So you're driving and I was, I don't work good under pressure. And like, it's just a lot of like things happening like you're, I was, I yeah, because I was stressing. I was. Yeah. Yo, I am. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'm legit telling her like, I'm going to die of a heart attack. I'm going to die. I'm literally like driving like a fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. And I don't work under pressure. You used to see me parallel park when like someone's watching. I'm like, yeah. You know what? Do you know what, the part that really fucked me up in this story that was so fucking funny looking back now, terrible at the time.
Starting point is 01:02:23 But this is going to be people watching this is the, is don't ever do this if you're too high. I'm, we're in the car, summer's driving, the kids in the back. I'm on my phone looking at like symptoms of like heart attack and shit and stroke and shit. And I go, because I'm like, that's my heart. Like, why do I feel? And I'm like, I'm like, I can't feel my arm and all this stuff. But I knew you weren't because I knew it was just the edible. So I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:02:46 But I was like, hold on. He's going to hate me for this. Yeah, but hold on. Here's the fucked up part. I'm scrolling and I look at like, it says like, I'll never forget this. It says slur speech. I didn't say anything. And I'm reading it and I'm like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Like, I think I've been doing that because then I start to hear myself talking. And then I said it. I remember I said it to you or to the dude in the back. I was like, yo, like, I think I'm slurring my speech. And then you said, yeah, I think you are. And I remember that's when it sent me. No, no, I swear to God. I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I think this is all in your head. Maybe he was all mad. I'm fucking crazy. Dude, I was fucked. But so anyways, like right when you said that because your confirmation
Starting point is 01:03:23 of me doing that, I think in my head it was like, oh, I'm done. So I ended up calling the fucking ambulance. We pull off the road. This is so funny. We're on like the five.
Starting point is 01:03:33 No, this is no cap. We're on the five somewhere. No, I think we're still somewhere like by Riverside, wherever. Where is Disneyland? Anaheim.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Oh, so we're driving back on the five. I remember we pulled off. I was like, you got to pull over. You got to pull over. I'm calling the fucking ambulance. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:03:46 we're at this fucking gas station. The fucking... No, we were just on the side of the road. We didn't have a gas station. I thought we're at a gas station. No, we were just on the side of the road. Okay,
Starting point is 01:03:53 well, fucking cops pull up. Like, like, you know, like sometimes on the, it has like a little thing where you can like pull off like a side.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah. Okay. There must have been a gas station somewhere nearby. Really? I don't know. I think that I remember that. I don't know. I'm out of my mind.
Starting point is 01:04:05 But I know they pull up. Yeah. I don't know if you knew it was at me. they pull up and then like they're all like dude you're fucking fine like you're just too high yeah what was that yeah I really I really did that that was one of the most embarrassing moments I feel like one of the firefighters even like oh you're that guy on the internet I'm like oh this is the most embarrassing thing in my life yeah and then it's like on the drive home you like exactly down and you're probably like yeah no I was super we didn't laugh about it
Starting point is 01:04:33 right at first though no you know you guys were nice I was yeah and I was scared for you and I was apologize I was so sorry I was like fuck I'm so embarrassed and like I felt really stupid honestly a couple days later we were laughing yeah a couple days later when I was like I'm not dead but like yeah the like the ambulance I was like oh shit yeah this is getting serious like I thought I was like oh I don't feel good blah blah and then it's like oh did you at any point where you like is it actually is he actually fucked up like is something actually wrong um I think that I knew it was kind of the that weed what like because my dad did a similar thing in like Mexico
Starting point is 01:05:08 we gave him a piece of it so yeah but I think then yeah you won't want the ambulance there I was like do you think so yeah you're right you're right because I remember you guys are trying to convince me like you don't need to yeah do you hear my cough yeah what happened what the fuck's going on remember I said I've been sick yeah I've been sick for like three weeks my cough won't go away so I'm not contagious
Starting point is 01:05:33 I don't know that sounds contagious three weeks I'm just saying you back to COVID time You're not contagious for three weeks I'm saying Where's your mask And I show up with the mask Oh God I would I would be like take that shit off I'm fine It's just you know sometimes the cough lingers
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah from what I don't I've just been going going Going like crazy having no sleep like doing so much I was in New York and I went to Mexico I did all this and stress so Yeah traveling does it to me I hardly ever get sick too So when I do get sick it's like my body's really like bitch slow down
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah so what you do you travel for most now like what do you do what do you spend your most of your time doing and working on um i've been doing a lot for my emerius brand the beauty brand and now i'm like doing a lot of like stuff for the djing um that's pretty like much my two major things right now yeah yeah what do you enjoy doing put the mic a look close to your face right what do you enjoy doing the most um sleeping okay oh my god shit that's of my heart right there i love that's why i want to go home Like, I'm so excited. I'm going to go home and, like, get, like, take a bath and then get in bed.
Starting point is 01:06:40 You know, like, when you're all clean and warm from the bath? Yeah, hell yeah. That's one of my favorite things. Do you ever like incense? Yeah, I do love incense. I have so, I have so many, and I get them from Mexico. They have really good ones there. What the, where is it?
Starting point is 01:06:53 There's like an incense place in Mexico? Are you talking about? I don't know. I just find them places. You go to Touloum, you're like, I'm finding incense. Yeah, I get rings, incense, type vibes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Do you have any other types of, like, business. is that you're working on that people maybe don't know about or you want to start doing? Because I know you got the clothing stuff, you got the skincare stuff. Yeah, for my clothing line too. Like, every year I do a
Starting point is 01:07:21 bikini job, but I don't know. I want to like rebrand those bikinis and like do like a full on like bikini line and really do like the style. Because it's like I have my stuff in like 800 stores and Canada. So they're like a lot of people aren't wanting the super thong like things that I like to wear. So like you know, so I want to do like my own like really like bikini line that was going to be fire like. Yeah. You mean like more more like less revealing? More revealing more more revealing. Yeah. The ones I have now are like not super revealing because they have to sell them to the masses of like 800 stores in Canada. So it's like the majority of girls aren't wearing like tiny thongs. Yeah. But I am. Fair. What about, what about, um, are you doing, is it just, are you doing social media marketing or is it just you selling stuff like to these wholesalers? Um, I mean, it's in, um, they, they do it on there. It's in urban planet. Have you ever heard of urban planet? It's like a huge. But you, you don't, you don't have like, you're not doing like direct to consumer stuff on social. You're doing it like to wholesale. No. And then they do that in Canada. And then I have my shop in my warehouse.
Starting point is 01:08:36 here and I sell it from my site. But like they don't, I don't ship to Canada. So they do it all in Canada and then I do it in the States on my site. And it's the brand is your name, right? Yeah. You never thought of like rebranding so like you'd get more like for me I changed
Starting point is 01:08:52 the BNfigure stuff that I did for years because there's just me selling stuff into raw gear. Yeah. I think about that because I think a lot of people don't want to engage in the brand because it's like the stigma of like I don't want to support summer. But I have a long term goal of like you know like Michael Coors or like yeah I get you you know what I mean it's like
Starting point is 01:09:10 no one thinks of Michael Coors is a person he was a person but now it's just a brand name where it's like you have to go through those hardships of maybe people not wanting to support the name but maybe 15 years from that's the route you want to that's the route I'm like because I think my name is a good like brandable name so I think that yeah people might be like oh the bad of it now but I mean that's why I just am sticking with it because I do want that brand name yeah I see you just Yeah. If I did have a brand name that like no one knew if it was called like something super random, so many people more support it because then it's like not tied to anyone. And then if they like the clothes, there could be girls that like the clothes, but they're like hate her. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's like. It's interesting. It's like. It's interesting. It's interesting how to pronounce it. Yeah. That's really not. Like if you don't know that it's my brand, you don't really know. It kind of has Ray in it, but it's not. It doesn't. It's interesting how that works now. No one knows how to pronounce it though. Everyone knows. No one knows ever. how to pronounce it. Emeras?
Starting point is 01:10:06 Emeras, yeah. What does that mean? It means, like, chief of leader. It has, like, this big meaning. Yeah. Like, chief of leader and, like, all this kind of stuff. It's really a cute little name. Yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 01:10:18 But I do find interesting how, like, people tend to, like, not be, I think because of your brand and you are so, like, because it's your name and you're still relevant on social media, that it's, like, it's easier to be, like, become that, like, I don't want to support her. Like, I'd rather just buy from, like, some other. random fucking bikini company just because I don't know what the competition in the that space. I think yeah some girls might people might just be like oh I don't want to support this girl give this girl my money like they know exactly who the person it's going to where it's like a
Starting point is 01:10:48 random brand like if you're shopping at um any of those brands I don't know like you don't know like who's like behind it it's just it's just clothing so they're it's like a little too personal because of my name but there might be a day that I'm not relevant on so social and like that it's just like my name it's like people might not even know who's brand who's the girl behind it it's just the name yeah so so who helps you with that stuff do you do all that stuff yourself or do you have like like like man like someone help you manage that kind of stuff yeah i mean i have like a small team and i have my business partner i've always had and i have this like day-to-day manager girl that like she's like a lifesaver she just does so much for me um i'm always
Starting point is 01:11:30 trying to like grow my team but you know it's like hard hard as fuck yeah that's when it's really hard to find people that want to work hard you know what I mean I've had so many assistants and stuff and like have to like let them go because I'm like they just don't want to work and they feel so entitled and like that's also the like era of social media like people are making money by not doing so much work so they want to be the same but it's like then do that don't try to be my assistant because you know what I mean yeah yeah I get you it's definitely it is I think in relationship to like as a creator, you could tend to find people who are like, I don't know, maybe like you said, they get demotivated to want to do more to like do the, even just the job they're supposed to do because maybe they might look at how you make money is so simple that it's like, oh, it, I shouldn't, you know, I'm chilling too, you know, but it's like it is. Well, also I feel like we just live in a very, like, lazy world and that is if you think about like how the hustle or like my business partner who tells me like, like he's in the, he used to be in the music industry and you'd have to drive around.
Starting point is 01:12:30 and like give like give people your CDs and like it was like a hustle like you'd have to drive to labels and play the song and yeah crazy stuff where nowadays everything that the we don't have to leave our house you give a label a label deal not ever leave the house yeah everything uses from the phone it's for sure especially in this space that's for sure yeah no I mean there are like we there are people that don't even really know anything about the internet like it is like not the whole entire world you know what I mean there are people who are still hustles So it's like crazy when you like take a step back and realize that because when you're in something, you think it's the whole world. Like I think like everyone knows social media.
Starting point is 01:13:09 It's like a thing. And then you step out or you go to a different country and you're like, oh, these people know, these people are living a very normal life. And like social media is really no concern to others. Yeah. So do you ever, do you ever like envy that type of life? Because I do sometimes. I do genuinely. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:24 No, sometimes I was thinking about this the other day. It's like if social media didn't exist like how like. Just having just a simple, simple life, like, maybe still living in Colorado and, like, marrying my high school boyfriend and having, like, three kids by now, it's like, I mean, less stressful. I mean, the daily stress that you have to deal with of just, like, the maintaining, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's like, it's a lot. You have to always, like, strategize how you're going to grow your brands, how you're going to do this,
Starting point is 01:13:54 how you're going to stay relevant and, like, the, in everything. It's just, like, and everything's so moving so fast and all this stuff. And like for me, I'm already in it. So it's like I would think that I failed if I didn't keep going. But it's like, say I never lived this life at all and I didn't even know. So it's not like I felt like a failure or anything. I was just living my little simple life. But that's the thing with me too is like I could be so content with such a simple life.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Like my goal is like to do this, whatever. And then I want to go buy a ranch or like a little private island and have my horses in my little like. Yeah, I know. I've talked to you about that before. I think you've always kind of, you always had that. Like you want to just got to be more simple. Yeah, no, I'm going to, it's going to be simple. I'm going to be simple, so.
Starting point is 01:14:33 You know, it's funny that you said that's interesting. It's like, you said that you felt like because you're in this, if you, like, didn't keep it going, that you'd feel, like, almost hard on yourself. Mm-hmm. You know, it's so crazy to me when I hear you say it, because when I first started this, before I first started, excuse me, rather, like, that thought, when I had nothing, I remember, like, it was the idea that I was going to have to move home because, like, I couldn't pay my rent.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And I was like, okay, do I move home and live with my mom? Do I like live in my car and like continue to figure this out? So I think the thing that's really important is like I had that same exact thought before I had literally any of this shit that wasn't even a thing. I don't even think Instagram was an app yet. This is how long ago. It was like my early 20s like it was like 21 or something like Instagram didn't even fucking exist yet. I think it was like just coming out and I had that same thought just where in my living space where I was like if I'm like I couldn't keep paying for rent. My friends were moving.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I didn't have like another place to go live yet. So I was like, okay, I either go home with my mom and live at home or I live in my car and I just keep trying. And I remember thinking to myself, like, if I go home, then I'm a failure because I was already in this thing that I thought I wanted to do. But I think it's really interesting and important to say for the people listening, like that was even then. And then I grew to get all this, which I didn't even have like real understanding of like it wasn't even a thing yet. What I'm saying is even like at some point like if you ever were like you know fuck all this I'm going to do that I think it just depends on the kind of person that you are like innately that like you could still figure out because you did figure this out yeah people might say oh you did it because your buddy you did it because of this or that but like it's it's not that simple and I think people don't really realize that like the internet is it TikTok makes it look real easy nowadays but like it's not as easy as just that like it takes a lot. as easy back then like you don't have like the kind of blow up like these like ticotkers are having now for one there's not as many people on social media back then so like your blowup wasn't
Starting point is 01:16:34 as crazy because there wasn't even as many people to even see it using app yeah yeah um but what was I was I was just saying I was just saying I thought it was interesting because like a part of you feels like if you kind of quit it and said fuck all this you'd kind of be a failure but I was just relating to the fact that before I had any of this stuff I was just saying I had that same idea in relationship to what I was doing at the time and my point is like I I understand where you're coming from because of course I'd have the fear of like if I stopped doing all this today and what did I did something like completely left field tomorrow would I have been a failure would I have quit but I don't I just don't think like life is even like that like because if I
Starting point is 01:17:10 had nothing and was like oh if I don't do this if I move home that I'm a failure I didn't have any of this stuff that I was failing from like I wasn't I wasn't losing Instagram I wasn't it was just like that's just where I was at in my life so I just think it's important for people to understand like that there's only failure and you just not doing shit yeah whatever is that you really want to do as a person I'm very OCD and like very like very hard on myself for one and very um I don't know I'm very hard on myself so it's like I'm not I would have to like really come to terms and like go to a positive place in my mind and be like that's like I don't know I've known that forever about you and I'm curious why I'm really because like I want to ask you this was one of the
Starting point is 01:17:50 things I really actually wanted to talk to you about because I've known you for so many years now And I'm like, because I've had so many conversations you completely off camera where you are very hard on yourself and like whether it be like you're hard on yourself like I don't know the way you look or the content or like what you're like my question to you is like do you know now why you're so much like I don't know I'm still getting there but yeah I'm just like very hard on myself and like people see it when they hang out with me for a little bit like oh people would think I'm like maybe a little cocky or follow myself. I'm like the least full of myself person. I'm very hard on myself and I really. do think I'm not shit sometimes and it's like I don't know it's just like I think my main reason is my mom growing up always talked about like her not like oh I look bad right now or this or that or not talking very poorly on herself and my mom is like one of the most beautiful people ever in my opinion so I would just I think it like messed up my young mind being like wow if she's not enough if she's ugly if she's this she always said it you know what I mean So I think that kind of mess
Starting point is 01:18:54 Because me and my siblings are all kind of Me and my sisters are kind of the same way Yeah Yeah so I don't know I think just like little things like that Do you like shape you into who you are And you don't really realize Yeah I need to be nicer to myself
Starting point is 01:19:07 That's why everyone that I were on me It's like something you need be nicer to yourself I'm like fuck But I'm just very hard on myself And I always like have this like burning passion To just like be the best You know what I mean It's like I wish I was like content with like
Starting point is 01:19:20 Being nah but it's the thing is the thing is like me but like the best is is is all subjective right like that's the problem with it like you that's why you just have to be happy with your like I can't care about like outside opinions of like what they think is the best I have to be but the thing is I don't feel like that about myself you know what I mean so it has to I don't know do you think social media like in your popularity and like comments and all the shit over the years has affected like your own like self-worth like your opinion of your own self-worth no it's not even like like like the number of followers or like all that kind of stuff doesn't really matter. I think for me, I just see myself, I just know myself and I see myself as this person that other people, like, you know what I mean? I'm like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah for so long. And like, that's not who I am. And I just feel like I have such a good message and I just see myself where I want to be
Starting point is 01:20:13 and it's just respected and like a real, like, empowerful woman. And it's like, until I get there, I'm not going to feel happy about it. Because I don't, I'm not going to be content with, like, being, oh, that girl that got popular off her body or like, blah, blah, blah. It's like, but the thing is, if people are trying to say that, it's like, okay, then why don't all the girls get popular off their body? There's a lot of hot girls, you know what I mean? And they're not getting popular off that. So it's just like, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I don't know. Some of self-reflecting. No, it's fine. Yeah. It's great. I don't know. I just mumble, mumble. No, it's great.
Starting point is 01:20:45 So what sort of content moving forward? Are you going to keep making YouTube content? Are you gonna because like I feel like maybe a space like this not necessarily I'm trying to convince you to go make your own podcast Because everyone has their own fucking podcast you know I hit me and my Amanda had a podcast like three years ago before a lot of people had podcasts Yeah and then it just fuck what you guys well we did um 50 I remember I did one we did 50 in two weeks What in the two in two weeks we did all 50 so we had like five people at it why did you guys stopped that Well we just did it for a year so we did it like In the two weeks, we filmed for the whole year.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And it was just, like, things changed in the two weeks. So it's, like, having a podcast, like, where it's, like, every, it's, like, the changes in your life and stuff. I just, yeah, I don't know. I definitely would have wanted to do it by myself or, like, have, yeah, maybe by myself. But I don't know. I just feel like I mumble way too much and, like, say shit. I mean, you could have someone to help you, like, produce it as far as, like, guide.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Because, like, you know, like, this, like, this isn't on, but sometimes, like, you have this, you have some sort of guidance. You could have, like, points. know you're going to talk about but this is not I tend to don't use this at all really oh yeah I mean but you could everyone does have a podcast now it is so I'm like but it's just like for the thing that you're trying to say or the message that you're trying to give it's a much better platform right because like no one could sit here and be like list about your ass because like it's sitting down you know what I'm saying like well the thing is that narrative for the most
Starting point is 01:22:07 part is really not that there anymore yeah I agree it was just an old thing it was just implanted into my head because I think I was so young and I think that was like so implanted that that's what people were like ooh about so I think it's like kind of scarred me I feel like I probably have trauma from that honestly yeah so I always go back to that but that narrative isn't like fully there um it's it is my like I can't like be like embarrassed of that or deny the you know I have to embrace it you know what I mean um but yeah I just need to like it's hard to have a voice when people don't want you to have one you know that's why you kind of like stir away from having one. But just fucking say it anyways. Fuck it. You know, make the content that
Starting point is 01:22:47 we speak about it. Because like, like you said, and we know the truth that the good content that's actually helpful to people, it just never does as well. But there are people who will hear and be like, wow, I really appreciated this. And fuck it. Just do it for them. Fuck all these other people. Because some people, I'll go on podcasts like this. I'll do stuff and they'll be like, I'll go to my page and be like, this is not like adding up to what you're saying versus what you're posting. And it really does come to the fact of like, why waste my time and energy for people for things that people like hate on and also don't even want to see or hear yeah but but you have to you have to go against him be like fuck you i'm gonna do it anyways fuck it i just do it
Starting point is 01:23:20 fuck it because like you'll still like if you posted the butt thing or whatever thing like they're still gonna be like wow this is amazing just put it and put the other stuff in between and the people who want to see it'll see it fuck everyone else right that's what i would do but i know it's hard because i as a creator it is it is hard to do it because when you're just doing something for so long the certain way you don't want to change and people be like yeah and at the same time that I understand the pressures of like getting likes and followers and all this view shit and like I know if I post something that's a little like left field they're like the fuck is this you know what I'm saying like it's gonna get versus a million views like 200,000 or whatever
Starting point is 01:23:54 writer. I mean the thing is too with the whole like other than shit I feel like people are carrying less and less about like creators at least or like whatever fuck it like carrying less about like likes and comments and all because everyone's shit is kind of fucked up right now so it's like a whole it's not like one person is bad and like everyone's like well your shit's everyone's is for the most part so you just gotta you just gotta like post what you want keep doing it yeah that's what I'm saying like you should start posting shit that's just a more like but it's like sometimes when you have a podcast it's like makes sense in conversation but I'm just gonna like so guys um like you know I yeah no no I get it but it's like take a clip I'm
Starting point is 01:24:29 sure there's a few clips from here that like I know earlier you had like a lot to say not that you haven't had a lot to say during this time but you had some good stuff that I think would do well I'm not telling you to post it just for fucking you know promo but at raw talk but uh no for real i mean i just encourage you to do more of that stuff because like you know as you age and as you grow are you good are you dying yeah go ahead let it out jesus christ you sound super contagious
Starting point is 01:24:55 no i've been sick for like two three weeks you're not contagious for that long that sounds bad because if i get sick for two to three weeks i'm coming for you you guys are not going to get sick i swear it's fine i never get sick actually words are powerful anyway The thing is I've been hanging out with, like, my whole team and everyone, no one's gotten sick because it's like a thick sickness. I would have fought off, but I was just, my immune system was just so low. Yeah. Guys just shut up.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Hey, you're the one who forced me to come here. No, it's fine. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you came. Can you imagine I text you and be like, I'm sick. You'd be like, canceled. You would literally be like, fuck you summer. You're such a bad friend.
Starting point is 01:25:33 No, I would have for sure. Yeah. Especially after, especially after you were like, oh, wait, I forgot I'm going to Touloum. It is my birthday. I know, I know. But you did. I'm really bad with schedule.
Starting point is 01:25:45 You know, I'm like, you know, like if squirrel, like you know the thing. I know you're fucking. Like squirrel was a person, it's me.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I know. My brain is all over the place. Trust me, I get it. I think that was that thing. Adderall. I don't think you should take Adderall. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, probably not. Probably not. I don't like, I don't like messing up like the chemical balance in your brain. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Except. I like everything natural. Except marijuana. Except Molly. Except Molly. I'm imagine no have you taken molly before Molly's fucked have you taken Molly yeah
Starting point is 01:26:14 can you like edit out my copy and it's like they're like don't worry no they don't care they don't care um how do you take them have like disgusting have you taken Molly before oh you know no comment's fair I've taken Molly before uh and it was it was pretty good Bradley what if the full San boys done to you
Starting point is 01:26:30 they've corrupted you this was way before the full thing guys way before I'm just saying how open you are about talking about all this oh I don't give a fuck anymore I know you used to be like, I don't bring the weed around me in my videos. You know, it's true. That's true.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I'm still kind of like that. I mean, I don't, I just like, I'll be honest. At one point, I just felt like, oh,
Starting point is 01:26:48 I don't want to do this or do that because I didn't want to like offend certain people, but I just got to the point where I just don't give a fuck. I'm in fucking 33 now. I started this back when I was fucking, what, 22. I mean,
Starting point is 01:26:57 I say do you. Yeah, I don't go fuck no more. But why don't you want to tell if you did Molly go for that? Hell yeah, motherfucker. Yeah. Of course I have.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Yeah. I mean, it's all good. Anyways. No, just kidding. No, I have not. Okay, that's fair. Do you have any more questions from me? Because at the end of every podcast episode, we do audience questions.
Starting point is 01:27:17 And Natalie, have you been getting those sorted? Have you been getting an audience question sorted? She's probably just fucking off on her phone, I can tell. Look, she's playing, you saw she's playing some random shit. She's like, yeah, yeah. But before you do an audience questions, we'll do three. If you guys want to send your audience questions in, it's go, what's the email? Ask, girl, talk at you.
Starting point is 01:27:35 boom or you can DM us at raw talk on Instagram um I like your little thought up it's cute thank you so much thank you for coming for real again because we did it in the other room before but this is like I've I've never actually been more consistent with the podcast in this one so what's your schedule every Tuesday 11 so every Tuesday you do on for the last year now I think it's so how long has it been a year it's been a year oh wow I haven't missed I don't miss oh oh god no this is one I can't miss yeah so wait You have a guest every week, every week? Every week. Really? Yeah. How do you have that many guests? I just hit rent. Some to just rent like, I mean, not random people, but like I just ask people.
Starting point is 01:28:16 I DM on my message. I'm like just keep, that's like probably the thing that I do every day, at least a little bit every day is like I'm looking at people to figure out like, okay, could I get this person eventually, this person eventually and then just keep contacting them. Really? Yeah, I just stay on it. See, that's the thing about me. I wouldn't want a podcast because I wouldn't want to have to always do it. That is the hardest thing. We're relying on people to show.
Starting point is 01:28:35 show up. Yeah, because it's like, people are really just doing their own thing. Yeah, for sure. And I just kind of like, for example, right now we did this. Tonight I'm flying out to go to a pod with Aiden because we're going to talk about the whole gambling thing getting cut off Twitch. Does he live in Miami?
Starting point is 01:28:47 He lives in Miami. So I'm flying tonight to just go to that podcast tomorrow to fly back. And then I do the pod with full send now too, like full time. So we're going to like, we're supposed to do. I don't know if I could say that. But anyways, we're going to do like some other guests. So, um, but I've podcast full time now. You just do this on the like go.
Starting point is 01:29:04 How do you do it on the go? So in Miami, I have a whole other setup. I have more mics and I have more cameras and it's in Miami. You have a place there? No, Steve does. I have it in his house. So I'll just pull up there. I'll do it at his house because that's my boy.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Oh, yeah. So, but yeah, no, this is what I do like full time. I love this shit. You love it.
Starting point is 01:29:21 I love it. That's amazing. It's like, and like I said, we keep talking about this whole like, you know, concept of what people do and how people see it and how people like take like what, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:30 that clip content, but people who watch these full like videos, they just, you get so much more out of it. Yeah. And like the people who fully watch this will be like, wow, maybe if they never watched or heard more about you speak, they're going to be like, wow, I really liked this version. Oh, I didn't know summer was like this.
Starting point is 01:29:45 You know what I'm saying? Or they talk shit. But it's all good. But it's like, it's just a good opportunity for people to really get to know someone for who they are beyond just like the thing they do, right? How they got there. That's what I'm interested in. It's like, because there's so much to it.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Like we all saw you or people all see you and be like, this is who she is and they have this preconceived idea of who you are and how you got here. And then it can be completely shattered and completely different Because like people don't know Yeah I mean that's my whole like Thing right now is just evolving and like rebranding I remember rebranded my whole clothing line Like I just have like a lot of evolving
Starting point is 01:30:16 Rebranding that I'm doing Yeah even with self even with yourself it sounds like Oh yeah with self 100% Yeah like fucking not dating anyone for a little bit Single summary That'd be the fucking that's a force You gotta run that for a little bit I swear I told you this like three fucking times
Starting point is 01:30:32 Dude you said it to me so many times Yeah, no, it's going to be a good thing. I like... I honestly think we said this the last time we did a podcast. Probably. Yeah, actually. We did. We did.
Starting point is 01:30:44 And then you're like, next week you're like... I hate hearing myself talk, so I'm going to be 100% honest. I've never listened to a podcast or any... I hate listening to myself talk because I'm so cringed out because I'm like, why did I see that off? You didn't make any sense. But you didn't even follow through with that, like, story. Like, I always am like a little bit like cringed out.
Starting point is 01:31:02 So, yeah. I don't like to listen so I don't know what the fuck I said You're fucking funny Also Yeah go ahead TikTok has ruined like YouTube Because the people used to love YouTube
Starting point is 01:31:14 Go on you could post like a 20 minute video 10 minute video No motherfuckers do not want to watch that shit for much Dude nothing You know like on TV show Because I'm actually Doing this TV show I hate talking about things before it happens
Starting point is 01:31:29 Because I don't want to like jinx it And then it doesn't happen I hate doing that But it's gonna be like girl it's called like girls in the wild and like you know how i like to be like out in the world like out in the wilderness yeah i'm gonna pick i'm gonna take like well it's supposed to be four but they've actually changed to eight because people's attention spans are so low that like in tv shows and stuff they need more characters to keep people in to yeah yeah inclined to watch it
Starting point is 01:31:52 because they get bored so quick um but yeah i'm gonna take girls out into the wilderness and do fun and what like see if they can survive and shit or what yeah it's gonna have like some it's gonna have different elements yeah no it's gonna be fun though you're not gonna take any boys not gonna i'm not going out no no no boys in the wild it kind of goes against it yeah but what if like you had like a surprise boy you just jump out of the woods and i start lifting them and then smack myself in the fucking face or some shit yep that's exactly what it sounds cool it's good it's gonna be fun so give us those questions oh wait before before before do you have any uh any last words or any questions for me.
Starting point is 01:32:31 I love this. I just loved it. I just like, I don't know what's happening next. And I'm just candid. Okay. Bradley. Go ahead, yeah. Where do you see yourself for the next question?
Starting point is 01:32:44 Oh my God. The most interview question ever. Oh, I used to hate that. Dude, I beat this question. Like when people ask me this, I'm like, uh, God damn. Oh, fuck. But I got to answer it.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I mean, the things that I love. the most that I enjoy doing the most right now growing raw gear I enjoy the fuck out of that I enjoy being a part of that also like all the learning pains and like all the growing pains who have gone through as far as like the company scaling and having athletes and learning how to like you know just deal with way more shit I love it back end stuff all that stuff and I want to have the best podcast on the planet yeah that's what I want to do that might not that would take a little longer than five years for sure because the go Joe Rogan obviously he's got the crown. But I really enjoy this medium. I really enjoy this platform and I really enjoy
Starting point is 01:33:31 like being able to talk and get to know people. I love it. I think it's a beautiful thing and you're amazing at it. Thank you. Yeah. I just think it's like, like I said, we've done all this stuff for so many years and so many people want to be like, I want to be an influencer. I want to do this. But like how I grew the thing that got me like all this stuff that people think is cool and they see it today and you too. Like it wasn't just from face value what you saw, right? There's always so much more that comes behind it and I enjoy this platform because I just like to enjoy like excuse me I enjoy learning about the process because my whole life has been about trying to understand like myself and my childhood and my traumas and trying to figure out these
Starting point is 01:34:09 things and talking to other people allows you to understand more about like when I share with you I understand more about myself when I learn from you I understand more about myself and it's all just kind of like therapy in a way yeah yeah it's oh this is your therapy no it kind of is to be honest and it's like you get different perspectives you understand people's like Yeah I think you like learn and I think it like opens your mind to so much because sometimes I can be a little close minded and then sometimes you like hear someone else's story or like what they've been and it opens your mind and like you see things in like
Starting point is 01:34:36 a different light sometimes because you kind of like feel for them or exactly yeah so that's what it is and then I want to have guests that aren't just because you know we talked earlier about like oh you know relying on guests that's a fucking problem like I also just want to have like people who are probably less influencer and like maybe more academic or more like this like you know industry or that industry and just talk to all kinds of people and just learn because it's just like i don't know i think what else is the fucking point of life like if i got all this money and shit that i have it's like i want to i think even some people yeah influencers whatever cool but they might there are there are people that might want to have someone come on
Starting point is 01:35:12 that talks about something that they like to learn you know what i mean about like someone who's in this or does astrology or something like that and they can learn from them so so i'm just interested in that. So that's why this is like, as far as content that I make now, this is what I enjoy the most. And I will not, I will not stop it until I'm fucking number one. And then, um, obviously raw gear. See me and you are similar. I have to be number one. Yeah, I have to, dude. It's going to take me time, but I got to do it. And then, and then, yeah, growing the brands, I'm relaunching my supplement company origin again. And then, uh, yeah, just, I want kids, man. Shit, you keep saying this. Yeah, I do. I do. You're just going to be,
Starting point is 01:35:52 Like, don't have no BMs. Yeah. No, no, baby mommas, I got to have, like, it's got to be like a wife. Yeah. Yeah, I'll figure that. Don't get no BMs. I'll figure that out. We'll figure that out.
Starting point is 01:36:03 We'll get, let's get into these fucking questions. Go ahead. All right. Three of them. First one is, hey, Bradley and guest. Love what you're doing, huge inspiration, both in the gym and my personal life. My girlfriend and I were broken up for six months and now we're back together. During our break, she hooked up with a few guys.
Starting point is 01:36:19 I know she did nothing wrong. but I am still upset and jealous about what happened. Any advice on how to get past this? Fuck. I'm just not a good person to ask about this because I have a strict role. You know, none of my exes why I also don't get back with them. I think that if I have a boyfriend and we break up and in that time they had sex with someone else, our bond is broken.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Like I can never be with them again because I think that's like such a sacred thing. And like now you've had sex with someone else in between that time. Like I interview with someone like we're the last people we've had sex with I have like this weird like sex is like very important to me so yeah if you do that checked off forever bye it's tough because like guys always go out and do that but wait it's the opposite in the show yeah yeah that's the thing that's fucked because because for guys it's like it's like it can mean so little though and I'm not saying that I know people we like down play it because it's like oh guys don't care but like some girls are sometimes like that too it doesn't mean that much shit this girl he's talking about had sex with a few different guys. Oh, shit. So, I mean, the question I have right away is like, how long were they together for? And did he say, how long were they apart? Like two days. They were broken up for six months.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Okay, six months. Didn't say how long they were together for. Yeah. I mean, this is like, I wonder how old the guys. He's got to be like in his early 20s or something. Does it say anything about that? No. We need more info.
Starting point is 01:37:38 You're like, if you're going to set it quite, break it down. It's tough because like, dude, I mean, when I think about this, I think I would think the same thing. I would for sure be like, oh, what the fuck? Like, you wouldn't want that to happen. but at the same time like I guess you have to judge engage like is the person to you um what I mean do you see like a real future with them or is it just like young puppy love whatever but it's like if it is valuable enough like to you and you think it can be it can become something then you can give it a shot regardless of that because it's it's it's also as if
Starting point is 01:38:10 I'm assuming the girl had sex prior to you anyway so it's like you know if it can work it can work but that is ultimately just an ego thing in allowing that like just to let it go but that's fucking hard for a lot of people like my ego can't let it go yeah you wouldn't let it go I don't know if I would let it go either like if it was like and then you let it go for like a second and then like three months in you're like wake up one day you're like I fucking hate you you was laughing other people it always turns up the thing is getting back together is always so tricky because you can have like a moment of being like I can put it past us like I love you when you have the amazing night two weeks later you could be like you're just yeah you're just
Starting point is 01:38:47 mad you're like I bring I bring shit back up I'll dig shit up from like I'm like I'm like dingin I'm like you get me in like I'm starting my period or something I'm not feeling good I'm like that one time seven years ago I remember you like it'd be like a nice ass day like he's like oh you want some like eggs or something he's like what about when you did this like I'm like I remember what you did you know it's fuck because like I said you just have to be able to go like okay, is this person important or valuable enough or do you see enough value in like you guys being able to continue this relationship moving forward, like that it's worth the work or the effort that you're going to have to do internally? Because like that's all it comes down to is like, can you internally accept the fact and move on from it and not hold on to it? See, that's the thing is too.
Starting point is 01:39:30 It's like if you're going to forgive and forget or whatever, you have to actually do it because I'm the type. I'm like, okay, I'm over it. And then I bring it back up and I bring it back up. It's like that's never going to be a healthy relationship. You have to actually fully forget about it. it and get over it and let it be the past but it's like it's so hard for people to do that and you could have a moment where you think that you could do that but then you have a bad day and something triggers it like i'll literally be in like a conversation with my girlfriend
Starting point is 01:39:58 talking about what her boyfriend did i was like my boyfriend did something similar to that i'm texting him i'm like you know what i don't want to hang out tonight yeah it's fucked it's ultimately like it comes down to yourself and your ego like can you like move past it and it's it's hard i'm trying to give advice but it's so hard to give advice on something that I personally I'm not I have not figured out I'm not perfect at it and it's like it just depends on like how valuable this person is in your life and how much you see yourself being able to move forward or not like can you do it and the question is did he have sex with other girls because if he had sex with other girls it's like I hate when it's like only so one sided it's like if he did it then she whatever but it's like if he didn't
Starting point is 01:40:41 do it then you kind of feel like hey I didn't do it. then why did you do it? You know, you know what I mean? So he needed to put that info in there. It kind of changes things. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Because if he's like, yeah, I only fuck 10 girls. So it's like, bitch, come on. Yeah, like you do have to like self,
Starting point is 01:40:55 self check yourself. If you're able to do it and you're okay with it then like, you know, it is a little different though. That's not. No,
Starting point is 01:41:00 that's the thing. Guys always think it's so different, but the hurts still hurts. Like the thing is like, yeah, okay, you didn't feel, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Yeah, wait, wait, wait, But it is a little different Okay, it's different But it still hurts the girls the same Like, okay, I didn't feel anything But it's like, okay, you still put your dick
Starting point is 01:41:16 In another bitch, it hurts me Yeah, but like For you, go ahead No, I was just to say how is it different It's not different Okay, let me explain how it's different It's really not different But they're like, it's not emotional for us
Starting point is 01:41:28 I'm like, I don't give a fuck Okay, well let me explain Okay, let me explain Is it emotional for you though When you have sex with a guy It is for you specifically I mean for me I only have sex with boyfriends
Starting point is 01:41:37 I have to be very emotionally connect I cannot do it without being very emotionally attached. Okay. Yeah. So. But not all girls are like that. I have a lot of friends that are, I have girls that be like dudes.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Like they just. God dare. Do not introduce me to them. Oh shit. They're out in these streets like not catching feelings. Like they don't want to cuddle afterwards. Like for sure. They tell me stories.
Starting point is 01:41:59 I'm like, the tables are turning. Dude, it's fucked. Dude, that's scary. The tables are turning. You boys better be scared. That's fuck. That you guys are going to want to cuddle them. They're like.
Starting point is 01:42:08 putting their pants on like don't touch me I'm good I'm serious I just think it's different I don't give a fuck because like you a girl has to let that person in you know what I'm saying I mean yeah it is because they're the ones getting penetrated yeah they gotta be like okay
Starting point is 01:42:22 they're getting obviously yeah so I could see why you guys can have this theory but at the end of the day it's still though you guys are still doing the same fucking act like sharing the same bodily fluids to saying the same exchanging the same energy doing everything that's the same like it's still
Starting point is 01:42:38 No, honestly, I don't know if it's exchanged the same energy. Yes, it is. No, because if a guy, like, like, energetically is exchanging none of it, like, but a girl has to. No, it's just like, it's just like, you exchange energy just because it's sex. It's very intimate regardless if you feel it or not. But now I'm talking about something deeper intention, right? If I go into something and intention of like, this is like almost just like fucking jerking off and there is zero. See, that's really how guys think though.
Starting point is 01:43:02 I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it's a real thing. Girls and guys are so different. But that's the point. That is why it's a fucking problem That's what I'm saying Even that guys think like that Like oh it's just the hole I'm just thirking off
Starting point is 01:43:15 It's like ugh Yeah that's Ew This makes me want to be single I love when I have like Ike moments with guys Because it just makes me Not against you
Starting point is 01:43:23 I'm just saying like Sometimes I get so icked out That I'm like I'm so single and happy right now I'm like Guys are just so Guys are just like Think so differently
Starting point is 01:43:33 Yeah That's that book Guys are from Mars Girls are from Venus or whatever it's like well that's why that's why so it's it's tough i see i see where guys come from but the thing is i don't buy that bullshit because it's no you're still fucking another bitch and it hurts me and regardless if you felt it or not i feel it i get it because it hurts that part i understand that part like what like no person wants to like even imagine their
Starting point is 01:43:59 person being with another person are you like that when i'm with someone i can't even a picture them being with like exes or like any random hookups i would I would love to find a virgin. Yo, you're so stupid. Dude, I'm getting older now. I can't be like finding a virgin because only virgins are going to be like younger. I'm like, fuck, I got to find my virgin now.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Oh, I would love to wipe off a version. You're so stupid. You got that virgin. Your DM's like, no, honestly, you're going to have a bunch of dudes your DMs. You're like, I'm a virgin. Yeah, exactly. Dude.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Lying. I've made mistakes to go on podcasts and talk about what I want and what I, guys, watch these podcasts, and they're my prince charmings i swear i had this experience with this guy that i was dude i swear i feel like he like i don't fuck girls like it's very emotional it's energy i'm like oh my god me too wow and then i'm like he's a fucking liar shit comes starts coming up i'm like he lied to me he lied to me it's like realization like they lie yeah dude guys are fucking savages yeah but girls are the same shit i'm not yeah i don't i just want someone that i like i like a
Starting point is 01:45:07 truth telling loyal dude that's all I want that like puts me on a pedestal yeah uh you you have to have a lot of guys you're like I have a better stool right here um okay let's do the next question that was good though that was a really good answer I don't have the fucking answers on this one I'll be honest I'm not that's a good question you mean not sway you didn't have any answers so the next one says I'm not sway and guest yeah um do you guys do you prefer a gym girl do you prefer a gym guy since you guys are in the fitness space what are your types of gym people that like significant others if you're looking for one and what are red flags yeah okay i'll be honest i definitely prefer a girl that works out i just have to
Starting point is 01:45:44 say that i mean not that you have to be like a crazy bodybuilder chick or some shit i just like a girl that knows the importance of the gym and like like enjoys it and has fun like it's important and they have to kind of understand it or they're just going to think that you're like a weird creature yeah for me i don't know i've never really dated like a big gym guy yeah but I would like to probably date a guy that works out because it probably wouldn't like help me and push me and motivated me because when I was in high school
Starting point is 01:46:12 I did date a guy that worked out and we did work out and it was fun. But the thing is I don't like no protein farts. Yo! Sometimes guys that are too into working out with that shit, their farts and shit are just gross. Okay, so I now have a question.
Starting point is 01:46:30 I just raise another question. Imagine this guy's like perfect though. The perfect guy put you on a piece. pedestals super loyal so are you telling me now this guy fucking rips ass once and it's like he fucking almost like let's say he was in bed and like you know dutch up and pulls it up and it smells like shit you're gonna be like oh we're done dude no i'm not crazy like that okay i'm like if they do some like disrespectful shit like i like my doors open for me i like to be treated like a woman i like to be very respected like so theoretically guy everything exactly like that
Starting point is 01:47:02 but he has nasty protein farts every day. That's fine. Okay. But also what I'm kind of realizing am I dating too? I've always dated guys where I pay for everything. Oh, whoa. Yeah, so I'm kind of realizing the older I get that I, because I used to think I had power in it.
Starting point is 01:47:19 I used to be like I have power in the situation. Not every guy, though. No, but the thing is I realize that maybe my power isn't having them pay because like I'm the prize. Yeah, I feel like you would have realized that a long time ago. No, I didn't. I didn't. I literally thought that I didn't want them to think I owed them something
Starting point is 01:47:35 or like they had something over me. I don't know. I'm weird. I've literally dated a guy for two years that I paid for his damn phone bill. Yeah. I don't know why. I paid for everything. He didn't have a damn dollar to his name.
Starting point is 01:47:48 But not this isn't the last guy. This be clear. That's not the last guy. No, the first guy. Yeah, yeah. Like the first guy I dated when I was in L.A., like first moved here. But, um, yeah. The last guy you didn't pay for all this stuff though.
Starting point is 01:48:00 There's no way. Not everything, no Yeah, okay So yeah That's a weird I don't know That's a weird concept But I get it
Starting point is 01:48:09 Because the idea of like you Pain so that you feel like They don't have like Control or like Yeah I don't like guys having any control over me That's tough And that's why I like Yeah I know
Starting point is 01:48:20 And like Then I struggle You gotta let that go a little bit Yeah To a degree like a little bit But I don't think guys I respect I think that's the issue Ooh
Starting point is 01:48:28 That's tough Yeah That's tough yeah because when I'm paying for everything everything I'm not talking about every relationship I'm just I'm saying like as a broad spectrum like maybe three of them we're like this and two so it's just like not like one certain person right um but I don't respect a lot of them no that's you should that's something you really got to I think I need to really find someone that I really respect because I'm always like the breadwinner and
Starting point is 01:48:52 like I like to maybe date guys that I'm more successful then and doing because then it's like I feel like I have control It's kind of like a dude mentality I'm not gonna be a dude Sometimes when I talk about dating and stuff And like how I'm like very like Like I don't want my man fucking fucking
Starting point is 01:49:09 Because guys are like that I don't want my guy fucking any girl Any girls Like I'm kind of like a guy when it comes to dating Damn Maybe I should start dating girls Yeah I'm a sugar mama and I'm a dude Damn
Starting point is 01:49:21 I'm like come out lesbian just kidding I could not I'm sorry It's all good Now, but yeah, maybe switch it up. Like, let a guy take care of you, see how you like it. Like, give a little, give a little, you got to give a little control. Because if a guy doesn't have any of that, he might feel like, what's the floor.
Starting point is 01:49:35 And then I de-masculate them. And then they're like, you know what I mean? And then I'm like, you're a loser. But I did this to them. Like, I feel bad. So, yeah, I think this is the solution. Okay. No boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Yeah, for sure. So you figure this shit out because that's tough, man. I know. Isn't it bad to, like, share all this shit? Oh, dude. You're like, what the fuck? No, it's real. It's real.
Starting point is 01:49:57 It's not bad at all. And I'm sure a lot of people fucking deal with the similar types of things. We all deal with the same kind of. Do we have another question? Yeah. Okay. This person gave like a bunch of questions. I don't know if we did.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Wait, hold on. Do we answer that question? What the question about Jim? Yeah. You said you don't really date gym guys, but like maybe and you say he likes gym girls. We get so like. Sorry, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Your guys is ADHD is kicking in. It's okay. So hard. So I guess this goes along the lines with the same. thing as taking medication, like what are your thoughts on antidepressants and different things? And where, what do you think, do you think there's a stigma about them? I think, I think they're fucking terrible. Like, I'm not saying, if you're on it and you've been prescribed it, like, I'm not telling you just cold turkey get off because it's going to
Starting point is 01:50:44 probably cause some issues. But I think overall, all these things are like really, really harmful to you and actually just make you dependent on them more and more and not actually fixing the problem. Um, I think there's other things that you can do to, really fix a problem and like develop habits around your your issues that are going to be more beneficial to you in the long run i think these are just just band-aids yeah anytime you band-aid something it's like you're not fixing it you're just you're covering it up you're covering up just like yeah like we're talking earlier like things you deal with you just push him down push him down but like that's still there and you just rely it now on a drug to like be quote-unquote normal and i
Starting point is 01:51:19 think that's a really slippery you don't really know what the long-term um like that's why i'm scared to ever do stuff like that because like the long-term effects of what it's doing to your chemical balance in your brain like it could be really like messing you up more and not even knowing yeah like actively changing like your fucking genes and your DNA you're like your personality like you know what i mean like taking those things can really alter who you are probably over time it does work for some people like my sister is on it works great but then my other sister tried it and like was getting like terrible terrible like night terrors and like it works for some people or not but Like if you can, I'm always like, if you can do it natural, do it natural.
Starting point is 01:51:57 100%. And yeah, there's some people, I don't know, it's always like with those type of medical things. Like, I'm not a doctor and like, I don't really know what to say because it's like some people have like really, like you don't know what people are going through and they really might need it. And some, I have like, one of my friends was telling me they're on it because it's like it runs in the family genetic depression or something. So I don't know. Like I don't know if you can go therapy for that. I don't. It's like so much stuff that.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I just like, don't know. No, you're right. And like I said, to be fair, like, I'm definitely not giving you doctor advice. I think, I think there are other ways that you can figure these things out. But, like, you're right. Like, I don't know the severity of the symptom. I don't know the severity of, like, the actual cause. Yeah, we're talking about, like, a very base level.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Because there are people that are just going to be like, I don't feel good. Or I'm demotivated and I'm unhappy in my life because I don't like my job and I don't like this. So I'm depressed. And I'm going to go on medication. For me, that's like, maybe like try some other things. but like if you have a great job and you're doing nothing and you like are just really like something really medically wrong with you I have no like really yeah we're not fucking opinion on that but like the lazy people that are just like wanting like a one fixed pill
Starting point is 01:53:07 because sometimes I'm like is it going to make me into like a different magical hardworking like very like um focused person fuck I want it but then I'm like okay no I don't like don't like don't be lazy somewhere like don't do a quick fix because people always want like the magic pill Of course. We are like, that's what I'm saying. We're all fed that. And it's really no magic pill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:27 In no way. There's no magic pill for anything. And everything has some sort of repercussion, too. So it's like. There's always some fine print. Yeah. And then those thing cases, it's like might make you kill yourself. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:53:40 The fucking commercials with like, like, oh, here's this. And then it's like, but you could die. But you could die. And you might stab someone in the middle. It's like, holy fuck. Those are honestly really funny. It's like my fun. Like, I love.
Starting point is 01:53:51 And they're so serious. It has, like, the people, like, the kids, like, kicking a soccer ball. And the music and shit. It's like, you're like, oh, my God. They want to normalize the fuck out of it. Guys, I cuss like a sailor. Who cares? Like a truck driver.
Starting point is 01:54:05 I know. I'm like more. Like a truck driver? You're fucking weird. Oh, dude. It's so funny. Yeah. I am bad.
Starting point is 01:54:10 No, okay. We're done. No fucking boyfriend. Summer Ray. No more boyfriends. Please for at least a little bit. Yeah. No more boyfriends.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Just figuring it out. Let's not have this conversation. And then I'm like. Next time I'm like, I'm getting married. I think sometimes, too, I like to mask my problems by having a new boyfriend. Because it's like, no, you don't really sit and sit like, oh, why did that last relationship not work out? I'm like, let me just get a whole new boyfriend. Start over.
Starting point is 01:54:39 That's so many people's problems. Like, that's really, really accurate. Like, a lot of people jump from this to this to this. And I think sometimes it's like fun having a new boyfriend because then it's like they're new friends. It's like you enter like a new world and you don't really have to care about yours. because you don't really even have to like have like your own like you know because you go into their world you can be friends with their friends well blah you like meet new people it's like this whole thing and you can like leave your old life behind you almost what's the same thing
Starting point is 01:55:05 we're talking about like the avoidance the avoidance of the actual cause avoiding it even like we're talking about the depression the pills for it we're talking about social media like you're avoiding your actual life because you can focus on negativity and someone else's like that we're just constantly taught to avoid what's in our hearts and what's in us And that's the thing more people just need to talk about that Because like that's the thing that you need to work on You specifically, me specifically like
Starting point is 01:55:25 To figure yourself out so that you can be the best version of yourself So that you can actually bring someone amazing in your life See that's the thing I have to like stop mediocre And like settling for like you know And like work on myself and make me the best person Because when the guy that's going to control you I'm kidding Because when the right person comes around I'm going to fuck it up
Starting point is 01:55:43 Because I'm not like I haven't healed from things And I'm not like in the place where I need to be So I have to get my place myself ready for when that right person comes, I can be like my best self. Exactly. Damn. In like 30 years,
Starting point is 01:55:55 okay? I'm single for 30 years, guys. You know, whatever, some time. How long would you like to like think? At least a year, please.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Yeah, I think a good year. At least a year. Because like you actually have to do the work. It's not just like, oh, I thought of some stuff this week. I'm good next week.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Yeah. I'm like, guys, well, I went on a podcast and I talked about being single so I can get a boyfriend now. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:56:15 it's like you just do the same shit. You gotta get at least a year. I have to, because it's like when you you can't do the same thing over and over again and expect the same different results you know that saying yeah yeah um very basic yeah no you got that um yeah i have to just change it up switch it up do it let's do it all right thank you so much for coming summer i appreciate you redley i love you yeah i love you too you're amazing you've always been a solid fucking person too by the way oh thank you you think i always say the same yeah absolutely
Starting point is 01:56:41 when i go home to my family it's like they're like now they're used to it but i feel like for the first like the first year i think they're all like some are gonna change she gonna be weird she's gonna be different i've known you for eight years you've always you've always been the same in that sense you've never been like a weird or i'm like well she's like hollywood or she's different now you've always had like your issues your things like you're no it's fine we all do
Starting point is 01:57:02 but you've never had this weird like i've never hit you like oh she's a bitch now what the fuck never never no like my family they always like they just i'm very solid like i think i think that's also i'm very grounded like my relationship with god I just have like my values and they're never going to change and I think that's what keeps me like that. Yeah. You've got to shift a little, you know.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Oh, there's some little things I need to change. But in that place, in that space, I'm good. I just have some personal issues that I need to deal with. We all do, though. We all do. At least if you're willing to admit it, that's the first step to changing and being on the right back. Yes, that's it. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:57:41 I keep talking. Everyone's like, hey, we're like turning off the lights. So I'm like, oh, I'm going to be around. Yeah. Yeah, fuck. All right. We're out of here. I love you guys.
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