RAWTALK - Steiny On The End Of NELK, SteveWillDoIt Losing $5 Million & Elon Musk Calls For Sneako Deportation

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, guys, before we get into this podcast with Stiney, go on your phone right now, download the PricePick app. Use Code Bradley when you do. They're going to give you $50 on your first $5 line up, literally free money. PricePick is hands down, the best application, the best spot to do any sort of fantasy picks. Super easy to use, more or less. You could see all the stats previous, whether it's like NBA or UFC, MLB, any sport.
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Starting point is 00:01:26 Dude, get me in raw gear. What the fuck? You know I'm going to also make partners? The Mexican. Why can't I be a partner? You can? Dude, like, what the fuck? Are we going right now?
Starting point is 00:01:35 What are you going to do for me? I don't know. I mean, I'm going to be in shape by then. Yeah, that's the one thing that, who, you keep talking about being in shape, though, for like, all you do. Lepey's fat. Is it in shape?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah, but does it matter? Yeah, but does it matter? Diego has got a little thicker. Yeah, that's what happens. When you have an alcohol, you're drinking a lot more. I'm not going to lie. It's probably the most I've ever drinking in the last,
Starting point is 00:01:56 like, like my entire life, actually. Because I have those things sitting in my fridge and they're so ice and cold and they're so good. Yeah, it's hard. You got to just have discipline. discipline and not do it and just you're not doing it in excess no i have one or you're one or two guy i'm a one guy yeah see if you that's a dude that is a real life uh super power having one drink yeah why and like if you're going out because he's not many people can control that i guess i just
Starting point is 00:02:25 don't like going out no i mean like if you're having one drink that's pretty impressive but you're having it by yourself like solos that's kind of weird actually it is kind of weird yeah i don't do that i don't do it in a social setting but then I usually go in excess stay out to like five yeah you go out a lot huh no I stopped I've stopped a lot okay bro I swear
Starting point is 00:02:42 peptides have helped me oh god you know where you're a peptide influencer now are you are you? I love red as you reddish what peptide influence what peptides are you on right now
Starting point is 00:02:52 Reda and Tessa shut the fuck up I'm on both how do you say the end of Tesla I don't know how do you say that I kind of realized I kind of just like
Starting point is 00:03:01 this guy just kind of showed up and was like yo take this and this and this will be the results. And I didn't really do any research. You just said, fuck it. Yeah, I was just like to believe everything that I was told. I kind of realized that a couple weeks later. I was like, dude, I just bought everything this dude just told me.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Why is it taking you so long to, like, actually get into the gym phase? You've been talking about it, I feel like for years now. Just because I, you have to, you can't, traveling and being in shape is really hard. That's true. I slowed down a lot on traveling. And now I have more time for it. So that's changed a lot. Is that because the pod switching it to, like,
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, just not doing the travel vlogs with the group anymore like that. And it's not traveling for the podcast as much. Like that changes everything. Yeah. And as you get older, you just don't want to travel like that, that, bro. I know. You're so funny. You text me the other day.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You were like, dude, I just want you. Would you say you want it to work? You're like, oh, no, you said you want to open a smoothie. Sometimes I envy those people. Yeah. And I'm jealous of the guy that has a sandwich shop and lives on the beach. And that's his life. Said you want to open like a smoothie spot in Venice.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah. It doesn't have to worry about this bullshit. Take care of people around. Has probably like, I don't know, a lot of free time where he's doing beneficial things. Doesn't have to worry about fake-ass people and dump chicks. Yeah. Is that too much? No, you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Is that too much? I'm also trying to do this movement now being in LA for this long. Like, I think we need to get like, you know what you never hear anymore is equality. in the workplace. Quality in the work? A quality. Like women having like less wages. Like there's never pushing that point anymore because women don't want to work here anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Or do anything. You think so why we stop that conversation. We need to start bringing that back up. We need to put chicks back in the workplace. Because these LA girls just don't want to do anything all day. Get the queen treatment. And these guys just do it. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah. I get it. So we should get them back in that we should get them back. Yeah. Like that should be a requirement for a little bit. Struggling wages. Yeah. But then.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Because then they need you more. Yeah. And then guys, if there's more girls in the workplace, guys are going to be more ambitious. Like the ratio has got to be crazy at most of these like sales jobs. If you're like selling software, there's like maybe the secretary and she's probably beat. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:20 it's definitely a hundred percent dudes. So if you get more, if you function and you push more women back in the workplace, then guys are going to be more motivated to work. And society is going to, the economy is going to boom. Society's going to be happy again. It's like,
Starting point is 00:05:33 it's a very dark and negative thing. Not having them in the workplace. In L.A. especially. Yeah. Too much bullshit. L.A. is just like the worst place for everything other than it seems like making money. But could you give up the money to live a life like that? No.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Yeah. Okay. So what are we talking about? Just because you become so used to that lifestyle. I think that's what it would just mess with you mentally, I think. Do you think you could ever just sell it all and go like live? Yeah. But yeah, you'd have to make a certain amount.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'm trying. I mean, that's a goal for me, and I think most people will see, get to a certain amount where you don't have to necessarily do this kind of stuff anymore. Yeah. You're getting burnt out on content. Getting a little burnt, not only just burnt out, it's just in like, it's a weird era that I don't get. I agree with you. It's very, like, and I've always been studious of, like, I love to study the internet, see what trends are hot.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Well, I think the future's going to hold, like, what's going to hit the algorithm? them. And I just like, even watching Kai Sanat Streamer University, which Kai Sanat has a platform that I've never seen anything like that in my life. He is the most powerful creator I've ever seen. And I break that down by the influence of just putting people around him can legit, you can hang out with Kai Sanat and become a millionaire overnight. It's really like incredible. Yeah, I mean, he's done that. I think he has done that.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I think I was trying to pay attention to a lot of the streamer university stuff. But one of the things I think that's actually messing with the internet is you do see the streamers and the stuff that's going viral is like these people throwing hot sauce on each other or fighting each other. And you actually have a lot of creators who are in there who are very talented and are a lot funnier than these clips that are going viral. So it makes you want to do stupider stuff that's less quality content when a lot of these people can come up with way funnier. But if someone can go in there and start a fight or throw hot sauce on some. and you get millions of views, you're not going to be motivated to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I mean, it's kind of just the way the algorithm has worked. It's like, it's, I mean, it's always favors. It just also, it's like, it's just crazy to think that there's so, there are so many people that watch streamers. They watch the fighting stuff. But just imagine if every day you went and saw, you watched one of these streamers and for five hours a day, like your brain is going to be cooked, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah. Like, I want you to, we should do a, case study. Okay. I want you for three weeks. Every day, you've got to watch for Kai. I got to watch for Kai. Just watch for Kai.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He's funny, but like, I don't think you're going to learn or get anything out of watching that. Just brain rock. Just funny. Yeah, but brain rock, but funny. But I want you to do it for three weeks and then we'll see. But you don't think you don't make brain rot? Yeah, I think I do.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I thought he laughed. But I mix in, uh, I mixed in some quality content. Like I had a, uh, I had a party at my house last week. And I, uh, no, this is amazing. Okay, I found a little. like a mini, a little person, a little Kanye impersonator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And he has a little glow, like a little cute earth. Kind of like Kanye's. Well, wait, wait, that's a video got like a gazillion views on you. Yeah, it's on my house, bro. Yeah, I saw that. I was like, this took off. Yeah. You've always had good ideas.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You always had good ideas. Thank you. TikTok, I think it's at like 80 million and then Instagram, it's at like 12. So here's the crazy thing about that. On your Instagram and on your, TikTok. Did you gain a lot of followers from that? No.
Starting point is 00:09:05 That's what I've noticed lately. Like the algorithm, it'll get views. We'll pop off. You gotta have the, okay, so for that, you have to have either people that are, like, buying into a story. So, like. For followers. We'll use Big John as a reference. He posts eight times a day, and people are watching him go from this kind of kid that just plays golf every day. Then he's at the UFC White House. Then he's with Drake.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Like, there's a story of, like, damn, this guy. really went from just playing golf to now he's doing all these cool things so they're bought into it they're bought into the storyline and he posts like five times a day or you have to be a guy like druski who you're not gonna i i don't want to miss any skit that that guy posts because they're so funny yeah i see you're saying so those are the types of things that people are really tuning into and then otherwise they're just scrolling on reels all day yeah there's nothing really like clicking into a profile and following you got to have some sort of storyline or you got to be pretty active with a certain niche i think that makes sense yeah anyway so i had the little conier
Starting point is 00:10:00 my house with a full on production full DJ full bar caviar bar 50 chicks i feel like this part's a lot no i swear my life i swear to god 50 chicks 50 chicks i told the i said that like regular ye was going to be there oh you you oh you classic lie yeah yeah nice okay and then i had the whole stage set up and i had little ye behind the curtain on the little globe and then i said hey guys i have you already know like the word got out that i have or yay i have yay here yeah drop the curtain and then it was just mini yay and it's just kind of funny it's hilarious it's hilarious but did you put that in a vlog or yeah i mean i did youtube but i also kind of like just did that one because i just have always pictured how sick that would be to have in my backyard and it was like a legendary night
Starting point is 00:10:45 and it like the clips went crazy but yeah i saw that i think was like how many millions on instagram 12 million or something yeah what the i mean it's pretty funny it's hilarious i just and there's so many jokes being made because like if half the price for you get half of yeh, yay, shit like that. Can you give you half an apology? No, that's good, actually. I did have, uh, I sold some tickets, though. You sold some tickets.
Starting point is 00:11:12 The guys had to pay to get in. So I did. I believe you. I made a little bit back. No, but how did you actually, did you actually, you didn't have actually 50 girls? Because I don't even know if you had that many numbers. No, I had probably between 30 and 50. Fair.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I mean, dude, that's how it is, bro. What's the cloudiest thing I can do tonight? Oh, there's a chance. Like, I'm the kind of guy that maybe could have yay at his house. There's, like, a small chance, but like, in a weird way... A very small chance. A very small chance, but in a weird way, you'd be like, maybe. Like, I have to go see for myself.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So then you... You know what I'm saying? Do you film their reaction, too? Um, I hope so. I hope so. Because I didn't get it. I was on the mic with him, bro. Doing runaway.
Starting point is 00:11:53 The girls ate it up, dude. It was hilarious. But they thought it was real. That's why they showed up. Some of them probably did. Some of them probably knew. But I mean, either way, it was funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Did you lose a lot of money gambling on the World Cup? Or did you gamble much? I lost like 30K. Yeah, I think I lost probably around that, 30, 40. I mean, it's hard because I don't like the regulation bets. You mean within the time? Yeah. That's like the hardest thing to gamble on.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And it's not that fun of a sweat. I didn't enjoy it, to be honest. Really? Do that. Because like you're like they're either drawing in regulation or it goes into extra time and they get the goal. So you lose this. During the regular, during the regular part. Yeah, it was just.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But when it was knockout, that was, that was good. Like I had Spain to win, but I only had them in regulation. And so I lose, and they still win. So it's like double tilting. I don't know. It's. I get it. This, this, this, this, this world cup made me fall in love with soccer, though.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Football, rather. Oh, wow. Yeah, you're dropping football. After United States, the bed entirely, we got to call football. What do they do? What do they do? You didn't watch that game? I did watch it, but what do they do?
Starting point is 00:12:58 Oh, my, they just played like high school. kids. They're playing like, yeah, the USA team. What about the team? No, I'm talking about the team. Yeah, we're not known for that. Well, after that hell, we dominate every other sport. Yeah, but hockey, we win.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Because every other sport, to be fair, isn't everywhere else. That's true, actually. We really should get better, but it's only every four years. Yeah, yeah. That's like the one thing we don't have. Yeah. But yeah, it's every four years. You were talking, you were asking about Plackboy Max.
Starting point is 00:13:25 When was I was asking about that? Before you walked in talking about that. Well, I want to get your take, dude. Because I was on my phone scrolling before I got here. Which part? Which part? Because I saw the clip. The part of him, the guy coming on his stream and just like confronting him about how he feels about it.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Or I guess just weighing his opinion. Pull up the clip. Pull up the clip. Yeah, let's pull it up. You definitely tweeted like, yo, man can be himself for like the engagement. No, I didn't tweet any of that. No. I do find it interesting how everyone sort of like takes sides though.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Oh, shit. This is XXL process. Why do you want to be? Yeah, everyone's getting this trying to ask. This is how big the street in culture is, dude. Yeah, D-Man, you need holy oil, right? You need to sit down in the holy aisle. You need to go get a church bath and cleanse your body, right?
Starting point is 00:14:12 I think you are confused. I think you need some guidance. I think your parents feel a little way about that. I think your clip's coming in and you get me clips. It's kind of funny. Like, if you look at the guy who's saying this. I know, no. There's irony in the clip for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It's like, he's like, I think you're cliff farming. He's like wearing sideclog glasses with like. I didn't know. I didn't hear him say, uh, I think your parent, bringing in the parents and saying that. A little personal. A little too much. A little personal. Continue. You're loyal.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I know what you're doing. You know what you're doing. You've been at this. But you are not a diva diva's been over. I don't think you've been over. You're not the little boys in Clover. You're not Tota. You're not a Diva.
Starting point is 00:14:55 What is Tota? What a Tota have to do with this? I don't know. Bees referencing his age? Is he trying to drop bars? And then what? He goes, doesn't he go and like talk about it? This is mean, nigga. I'm pleased.
Starting point is 00:15:13 This is mean, nigga. Like, I don't give a fuck, bro. I might be a little weird, bro. I might tap some shit. I don't give a fuck. What's wrong with being gay? There's nothing wrong with that shit, bro. Y'all niggas is a quiet, you know, corny.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And you just think how the next, nigg, think. Don't have your own mind, bro. That shit. you're white, but I'm gonna be myself regardless. What? What? What? I'm trying to take,
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm just confused. He's straight, though, right? I, bro, I don't know. I don't know the guy's sexuality. I think he's a straight dude and he's, but what do you say? Like, who cares if he's gay? Yeah, he said, who cares about being gay?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah, I don't know. Well, there's just a, what the conversation around this is just, is like, you got one whole side that's like. Okay, so what do you think? I mean, he's, he had divotter on him and he was wearing wigs. Yeah, so, so, but, but, but, but, but, I'm assuming you're trying to go towards a conversation of like, what is he pushing, right?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Because that's what people are all, like, upset about the, because if we're talking about the gay and straight thing, it's like, is he- I mean, what do you think about getting divotatted on you as a guy and wearing a wig? I mean, I wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I'm not doing it. I don't wear wigs. I'm bald. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I probably should wear wigs. You know, maybe look. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But what I'm saying is like, yeah, the conversation about this whole thing, why went viral is because you got everyone being like, obviously, who cares, but then you have a whole side of people, probably a little bit more conservative being like,
Starting point is 00:16:30 well, he's like promoting this sort of like gay sort of bisexual thing. I'll tell you what, you know what's lit? Is that I did see how many people came to this guy's back and I'm just going to put it out there. Like if I showed up to the gym with a diva tattoo and a wig, like I'm getting every slur commented at me. Like no one is coming to my back.
Starting point is 00:16:53 No one. Everyone is like, that F word is everywhere thrown at me from people like you people around me me the fans people watching like it's it's really insane how how people come to this guy's back i mean he's a popular stream and i think this isn't something that's super new to him no but i think he's done he's made jokes he's done a bunch of content like i don't think he gives a i mean he clearly does give a fuck he's very upset in the in his reaction to it but i'm just saying it's very like shows how powerful it's fan bases when you can just do whatever you want people like if you pulled up to the gym with daddy's girl tatted on your chest and you were
Starting point is 00:17:27 That's insane. Holy, bro. And you were like, yo, this is just me right now. Like, I probably wouldn't be like, yo, that's, that's chill. That's normal. Yeah, you'd be like, what? I'd be like, yo. But I wouldn't do it on the live stream.
Starting point is 00:17:41 So I guess I would talk to you in private. So there's a whole element to this, that guy doing it on the live stream, knowing it's also going to be a viral moment. I mean, that guy's wearing a, like, cyclops shade. Like, he's kind of doing his thing too. Well, yeah, the whole thing's ironic because it's like you're also taking the moment to make this whole thing an issue yourself as well on the guy's stream.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So there's like, it goes both ways. I see it. I think there's that whole side that like the more conservative people are like, why, like they're arguing about like, should people be pushing this sort of like, whatever, sexuality on people anywhere, right? Yeah, I think, I think I actually really like,
Starting point is 00:18:18 he's actually really talented. Yeah, bro. He collabs with massive people. And every time I'm like, he did this collab with the first, round or sorry first overall pick in the NBA AJ something I can remember his last name I should know this he's like the man but uh
Starting point is 00:18:32 play at BYU but uh he liked that will randomly just do streams like that I'm like those are insane collapse who like playing one-on-one with that guy before he gets drafted I was like but uh I agree where it's like dude I feel like at the same time like I don't want I'm just keeping it real and I think too many people are afraid to do that I think when you put it all out there and like you talk about hey I got this tattoo on me and you are you wear the wig you're inviting someone to approach you that's what
Starting point is 00:19:00 live streaming is now this confrontation and so you're almost like this was inevitable someone was going to say it if it wasn't this guy because someone's going to disagree with it and they're going to see that moment to call it out and they're going to take the risk of okay are people going to side with me or side with him and it's probably split like 50 50 on the internet yeah you're 100% right but what I'm saying is when you do that and then you react this way like yeah bro you can be however you want, but if you're going to put it out there, you are inviting people to come and comment on it. And especially when you're live, that's what this is now. Yeah, especially if you're a live stream every day. Yeah. I mean, that's the internet in general. I saw another clip of, like,
Starting point is 00:19:38 Lacey getting his leg pulled with the torn ACL. I don't even, I was wonder why he was in a wheelchair. He's, like, injured and like, but this girl comes and pulls his leg and it's just like, she's probably just doing what she's, like, seen on live streams. It's like you just impulse, do something kind of Crazy. To get a clip. To get a clip. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I mean, that seems like what the internet is just turn into, bro. It seems like everyone is just. I mean, I did it. I did some like that. And like when you took the $100. Was that it? Was that that one of those moments? That was all the time.
Starting point is 00:20:10 That was so good, dude. That was so funny. Insane. Well, I had that set up with Nelson. You're lying. No, dude. You're literally lying in me in person. I've explained that situation too many times.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I walked in. I finally book a win. And I won. $10,000 and I have $10,000 cash. I'm all fired up. Steve comes, takes it out of my hand. I can see any of that. Pays toge. I owed toge.
Starting point is 00:20:32 He pays togey and then he gives $300 of my money to one of his employees. Is that true? Yes. Yes, 100%. I didn't know that part. Yeah. That's why when he put that,
Starting point is 00:20:43 and he threw the tables in the hundreds. Or they threw the hundreds on the table. He goes, oh, here, Nelson. The only reason why I brought it up was because that was the $100. I obviously wouldn't have done that if I knew who that was. I thought that was my money. And I was down so bad because I just won and then it gets ripped out of my hand. It looks really bad, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Well, that's what they do to do to me. I told, I confirmed it toadie. I was like, bro, why do you have to edit that out like that? It's funny as, yeah. But it's also like, I really wish you kept in the part of you guys robbing me before that. I don't remember anyone robbing you. That's what I was there. Well, I swear on my life that Steve grabbed it out of my hand and paid Togi and then gave Nelson $300.
Starting point is 00:21:23 and I thought that that hundred was one of the 300 yeah okay and I was also just really fucked up like it's like whatever yeah and honestly I don't even really care like Steve's I have a trust pile at my house Steve's taking money out of my pile now I've given I've given him fucking chips at the table we've given him 10,000 before at the table yeah that was funny though like that's just kind of what happens all time clip farm but what I'm saying is like it just seems like everything is clips now like I'm fief maxing and you are just like Yeah, that's right. I'll stand on that, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You're gonna steal from me and I'm gonna get you back. He stole 4,600 for me. I almost got my lick back with a $100 bill, and then you guys turned it into the clip and destroyed me. All I remember was you losing these, like, stupid, like, rock paper, scissors bet or some, like, card game bet, and you kept losing hundreds? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And then you, like, went over there and was like, well, I was an absolute tilt at that point. So, yeah, that whole thing was just... What's the most tilted you've ever been, gambling-wise. Losing 50K. My first time losing more than... I used to have a cutoff at like $30,000
Starting point is 00:22:29 and one night I just... Dude, you're just getting these zones where you just are like, all right. What game, like Blackjack? I've lost it in poker and I lost in Blackjack. Poker's a little bit more tilting because you can have a really bad beat. So I could have like, for instance,
Starting point is 00:22:44 a full house and then someone gets four of a kind. And there's something you can do. It's just bad luck. That's what actually really tilts you. So you've lost 50s. 50K one night once. Yes. My biggest loss.
Starting point is 00:22:56 That sucks. Do you think you're all time up or all time down? Down. So trash, bro. Probably like, nothing crazy. Probably like 150 all time. I feel like you're pretty decent at sports beds, though. I book big wins, too.
Starting point is 00:23:11 So, like, they all have sessions of Blackjack where I'll win 40, 50. I've won on prize picks like 140 before. Yeah. So I'll have big wins. But sometimes. the law i mean it's just dude so like even steve right now like he his whole gambling thing it's like bro it's such a big topic and i was with him he's down five million yeah i know i was with him last week when and i went to the uh spanish france game yeah or sorry spain france game and i literally said bro
Starting point is 00:23:42 six nine is the worst the like he is so bad at betting on sports like it's really like hard and I was like, dude, Spain is going to win this game. I said it into the camera. I was like, please, like, just trust me on this one. Spain is going to win. I'm telling you right now. And because France, like,
Starting point is 00:24:00 the thing with soccer is everyone's always betting the favorites. Even though Argentina wasn't a favorite yesterday, they were a fan favorite. Everyone wants Argentina to win. I had Spain. But they're going against, like, Mboppe, the best player. So he, oh, you, France is going to win. So anyway, we were going to that game.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I think he had like a million on the, that one maybe somewhere around there yeah and like once france goes up one zero and it's at half time your assumption is they're done or sorry spain goes up one zero at half time france is done because like in soccer it's really hard to dude they need to shoot a little bit more i think like that's my one thing about soccer is like dude more shots on goal yeah but just like let's like i like the crosses and like it's cute to like get it in the middle and get like the header but dude you're right there just fire one at the neck that's how it works well it needs to be that easy okay well it's be more action.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Like there needs to be a little bit more action. Like the, you cannot, the sickest part of the World Cup game was that one guy getting slid tackle and doing a backflip. That's true. Like that was the highlight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Nothing else was really that exciting. So I just think more shots on goal. Anyway, back to the gambling. It's very weird because usually when you're down, like he's chasing right now. So when you're down like a million bucks, you're tilted from losing that much money. And so you're just like, all right, I got to get even.
Starting point is 00:25:19 so you just start firing big bets like recklessly. Like he had a bet on when Argentina was down to Morocco. They were down like with like 15 minutes left. And Steve live bets them because the odds are crazy. And he ends up winning. So in your mind you're like, all right, got to do crazy bets, got to get back to even and you just bet everything. And I think that he was chasing so hard.
Starting point is 00:25:44 He just went down this hole. But he seems like he's pretty level-headed about it. Yeah. bro. I don't know. Like I was like, dude, like when he lost, I was like, yo, we can get out of this hole. We gotta,
Starting point is 00:25:56 you have to tell Shugashon like, yo, it's extreme times. We got to take the UFC belt into the pawn shop, pawns shop, pawned the UFC belt when he won against. I think he's, that much for that, though. I think you get a 10 to 20 grand.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Okay. And then you go to the blackjack table when you start there. Like, there's a little bankroll. Like, you can get back. Bro, apparently he borrowed $700,000 from one, some guy. That's fucking insane if that's true. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:18 and that wouldn't surprise me, because even just being around for like, I stayed it out his house for a few days. It's like insane. How he's very calm though, but it is crazy to be sweating that much action. Yeah, bro. Like, it's funny because I actually said this to him.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Anytime Drake bets on the UFC bet, or I think he, like he bets Connor McGregor, $1 million. He bets, um, Argentina, $1.5 million. And it gets picked up everywhere.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Steve's casually firing a million on a game, like once or twice a week. Yeah. It's like breaking news when Drake has that million on the fight and this guy's just casually walking on his treadmill and his crocs, watching the game shirtless with a million dollars on it. Yeah. Like he's not even there sometimes and it's very bizarre,
Starting point is 00:27:06 but I mean it's fun because I talked to him and I'm like, dude, it's the storyline. If you're a gambler, which a lot of us are, it's definitely not healthy, but people see that it's not the, like you don't want to be stuck that much. or in that situation, but the storyline is so engaging. Like,
Starting point is 00:27:24 you want to know what the hell is going on. You want to see if you can get out of this. And you know Steve will do it is going to come back and have one insane bet to try and get even. Because when you're down $5 million, like, and the other part of the problem is soccer's over.
Starting point is 00:27:40 This is like the dead time in sports. Like we're in July, there's no sports to bet on. Yeah. You got baseball and you got WMBA going on right now. So, like, I would tell him like, yo, we got to just, like, that'd be fun to go courtside to a WNBA game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Like, just fired on Caitlin Clark. She plays for the Indian A fever. Fired on that team. Let's go like, it's just where we're at. Because there's nothing else to bet right now. It's funny. Yeah, show up to those games too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Oh, my God. That's a good ass idea. Yeah. That would be fun. And like another, I'll give it to him. I'll give him an idea here. Who the hell ever puts a million dollars on a WNBA game? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:17 No one ever. Yeah, ever. That's why it's. like the greatest content ever. Oh, they brought. Like, what they, and then the players.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I mean, I swear, don't give me wrong. Betting WMBA is actually really fun. But, uh, no one bets like that on that, on that,
Starting point is 00:28:29 on that, WMBA in that league. Yeah. Most people, by the way, like you don't really fire, if you're firing a million, you're like Drake or whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:37 and you're betting a fighter or NFL, like you don't see that kind of action on other sports. I feel like very often. Like taking like yesterday, like, who, I don't know how much he had on Messi to have an assistant. ,
Starting point is 00:28:49 but like that's that's a crazy bet bro like betting messy will have an assist the odds to that had to been like 8 to 1 so like 100,000 to win 800,000 something crazy like that but knowing him he probably had 3 or 400k on it yeah I think he had 400k on it it's just funny better steve will do i make 10 bets on the world cup spending 4.71 million he lost 9 of those 10 that is a cold streak it's funny because he like it's just a random Twitter Twitter, 1.3 million views. It's funny because he's also okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 If Steve was down bad and shit, I probably wouldn't laugh about it, but the fact that, like, he's mentally fine. That's always been my biggest question about Steve. It's like, what the fuck do you think it is? Like,
Starting point is 00:29:35 he's like an anomaly to me. Dude, he's back to, I will give him this, because he's been pretty, like, sober. Yeah. But he's back to his passionate
Starting point is 00:29:43 about content phase. Yeah, and like, people are bought into the, like this random guy tweets about it and people are into it. People are paying attention and like it's very engaging. It's a storyline. He told me he's like today,
Starting point is 00:29:59 he was like, tell me he go to his house in Nicaragua and he's like, yo, yeah. He's like, I want to build a bat cave. Yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:06 where it drops from the house right into the water. He's like, all I need is a million dollars and he wants to drill a hole. He said you can drill down in the house. Yeah, open up the floor. Open up the floor. And you can have like a slide or whatever would be
Starting point is 00:30:18 and he would have a boat down there and he'd be like his bat cave. I guess there are bats there. But I was like, bro, you gotta do that. If you're gonna do that, which is epic and have like the waterfall, you have to have, you gotta have an Alfred, like the old, like.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah, you gotta get a butler. You gotta get a butler and have Alfred there. You have to get a suit. Like, he'd get something sick. Like, you have to get a sick crazy suit. You have to get like a Steve will do it suit. And then a Batman, just sick-ass boat. But it's funny as hell.
Starting point is 00:30:44 He's gonna do it. That's the thing that's crazy. That's why I can't feel bad because, like, if you're really passionate or you're really into the creative, like, to me, that's a 10 out of 10. I have a great idea, and it's something sick to kind of, like,
Starting point is 00:30:56 chase after. It's cool. Like, dude, the reason that he's so successful is because he's the only guy in the world that would say, yo, it's only, or it's a million dollars to get a bat cave. Okay, I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Like, a million dollars on a bat cave in theory, in real life is the dumbest thing. You could put a million dollars on. But for him, it's amazing and it's hilarious. So, like, I'm immediately bought into it. Yeah. Like I told them, once you start to drill down, I will go there. Like, I want to see the thing come to fruition,
Starting point is 00:31:25 and then I'll help you come up with the ideas to do it. Yeah, I want to jump down the little. Because obviously you got to have, you have to play out and have a whole scene. You have to have a super villain and all this. Maybe I'll pull up his bane. That'd be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I got to think who I'd be. You're like Robin. No, dude. What the fuck? Batman? What the hell are you trying to say, God? You're not Batman. I'm more like Bruce Wayne than Batman.
Starting point is 00:31:49 No, you're not. Yes, I am. You're not even closed. You'd be Robin. I'm way more like Bruce. 100% Robin, bro. No, I'm, well, if I was a villain, I'd be a badass villain. Which villain would you be?
Starting point is 00:31:59 You're not Joker, bro. You're not that hardcore. You're definitely Robin. I am the Joker if I want to be. You haven't seen that side of me, bro. I've seen every side of you. You ain't seen that side of me. You do not want to see that side of me.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You are 100% Robin. You need to dress him as Robin. When you wake up, when you wake up, Ty did like five gallons of gas and then five gallons of gas your girls down the street in the factory tied up to five gallons of gas with lighters next to him and i'm telling you got to pick one call steve batman tell him you got to pick one i'll play that joker to a t bro i got to pick one yeah i'll do something wait what i like my girl and then what else is tied out dude that's from the dark night so you don't even know the movie okay but it's pick rachel or jeff gordon or whatever not jeff gordon what's his
Starting point is 00:32:39 name? He's Mr. Gordon, my fault. No, I got to be something dope. I could say both. You could, I mean, Bain is just so easy for you. Yeah, I'll do Bain. I'll wear the mask, the talk. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:53 but anyways, I think you be Robin. I got be some sort of villain, dude. No, dude, you'd be Robin. You're way better Robin. What's the guy's name in Incredibles? That was a, his biggest fan was Mr. Incredible. Superboy? Dude, I'm telling you. I'm not being Robin. You, but, but for the plot.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Robin's kind of a gangster when he's with. George Clooney. For the storyline, for everything, you and a Robin outfit would crack, bro. He has a chick in that one, too. So I'll, I'll sacrifice my...
Starting point is 00:33:19 Robin was sick. Robin's sick, but he's not like, he's not like the guy. Well, because he's not the guy. He has, like, one scene of, like, being dope. Yeah, he means of sidekick. He can't, he's not Batman. But why do you get the,
Starting point is 00:33:30 why do you get the main villain role? Ridler's a... Yeah, he kind of could do Ridler. Dude, give me a second. Let me look up Super Zones because I'm not leaving here. Here, I was Robin. That's some bullshit. You're definitely robin, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:42 No, I'm not. You're not like Lex Luther or anything. Like Darth Vader. Darth Vader's not even in that universe. All right, one sec. Darth Vader? I'll go penguin. Penguin's kind of smooth.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Ooh, penguin is, yeah. I'd have to gain some weight back, but he's kind of slick with it. He has his, he's got his water cave. He's kind of hardcore. He's ugly as, but like, he's fat. He's a nasty human, but I think it's Danny DeVito that plays him. Yeah, one of them, yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:09 Dude All right Well for that scene We'll think of it But I'm not gonna be What about you for content What are you actually like Passion about now
Starting point is 00:34:18 Because I'm not kidding We were dead ass talking about quitting everything And just Like I like doing vlogs Vlogs just takes up a lot of time I really like I did a podcast with John Kiriaku I went to
Starting point is 00:34:30 The CIA guy Yeah And like doing like Doing those kind of podcasts Make me love it again Like those are fun Yeah Like those are fun
Starting point is 00:34:37 And like when you actually have Where'd you do that one at? I went to DC for it. Nice. I met him DC. But yeah, that's what I was saying earlier. And I like doing like when we were doing Adrian Bronner and Dean, like just new personalities that you haven't been around. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:34:50 So I do still love that. And I like doing my IG videos a lot. My thing that I just, maybe it's because like as you get older, it's just something. When I see like the streamer university and like the live streaming. Yeah. Your attitude is just like, damn, I'm too old for this. But then what about people like, rant? We're older, rather sorry, Rampage, they're older and they still do it.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I mean, even Broner, he's older and he's, he's live streaming every day with being the great. Yeah, well, Bronner, like, that was like, I think Bronner's like second chance. He was, like, kind of meant for this, to be honest. He's, he's hilarious, bro. He is so funny. I like you. Dean is funny as, too.
Starting point is 00:35:29 They're a great duo. I'm just talking more about, like, they have their whole thing that they do. I'm just saying, like, the whole, like, I don't like the clip farming. with the fighting. And maybe I'm only watching specific things or seeing specific things on my algorithm because that's what's going viral.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But yeah. I don't know, bro. I still, I mean, I still love this. It's also, like, there's so much drama that has been re-coming up every day, like our group that we had is obviously no longer. So it's just like times, which group?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Which group? The NEL group is clearly, like, everyone's on their own time. Yeah. And Kai even, I watched Kai Snacken I say something yesterday about like the most truthful thing that you can take from that is it's very hard for we the nope group was alive before me probably lasted 10 years yeah just solid like if you think about it but he said something about like if it's very hard for a group to
Starting point is 00:36:25 exist or last if they're not all friends off camera and we haven't had that kind of relationship with each other for years now and I think it starts out with you have to live together that's a main thing. If you don't live together and you're a content group, then good luck. But we hadn't lived together for like three or four years. And then when you start to do that, you're just slowly going to start going your separate ways. Yeah, kind of drifting away. And I guess I will say too, like, we weren't, we didn't all like hang out that much off camera. Like, yeah, we would go to the gym and like go get dinner and do stuff like that. Me, you, and I did it with Steve. And then I would do it with Kyle. We'd go out.
Starting point is 00:37:02 You and Steve spent a lot of time together. A lot for a long time. And it made us very close and that's what but that's what drove the content is that we would be doing stuff where you just pick up the camera and film it and we didn't didn't even feel like you're filming it yeah you're right like we would just do stupid or have fun and do funny bits and it didn't feel like it was forced yeah so the moment you got to do stuff that you don't necessarily like want to do or you don't want to be there then it's not a good sign yeah you're absolutely right so uh it's sad to see but also it's like who cares yeah i mean everyone like all these guys have made money all these guys have done been very successful in their careers and like you're never going to see eye to eye
Starting point is 00:37:47 forever and this was i felt like this was kind of something that was inevitable yeah it's not fun when steve's going at you that sucks happened to me many times yeah he's got the loyals that just come for you and don't stop but yeah you feel like you got everything you deserved out of that situation? In what regard? Just like what you took away from. This is what I learned about that whole situation is when you're in a group and you get put on like that, it's very everyone, I look at it, I'm going to look at it like this. I'm going to look at it like, hey, these guys all are making this much money or getting
Starting point is 00:38:22 this, but I'm not getting this. I'm not adding, or I'm not getting compensated for how much value I bring. And they're at, they're looking at it like, dude, we have this monster platform. You were this months ago and then we turned you into this. so I realize that everyone's going to have their own opinion and you're not going to agree and everyone's going to point and say, hey, I did this for you, but no one's going to always be like, oh, but, you know, they put me on, right? Because they put me on. Steve put me on and then no put me on.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And it took me to another level. You missed one. And you put me on too. You helped me out. But at the same time, there was a lot of times where, like, I was getting milked for this content. And a lot of times I was depressed and, like, I was going through. Like, I took on. on the role of being a bad guy, a hated guy, villain early.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And like, that comes with a lot of toxicity and a lot of hatred and a lot of, like, negativity your way. And that's not easy to deal with, especially in the beginning. Like, back when I was going in these beefs, right, with Schultz and Strickland and Jake Paul and whoever else that I missed, that was providing so much content for the podcast, driving so much traffic. Yeah, me and you yelling about the Amish guy. Me and you fighting in the Amish thing.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Like, that's the most viewed clip ever. And it's hilarious. Yeah. But like my point being is that like there certain people are going to look at it is like, yeah, we gave you that platform. But like in reality too, you guys got a lot of content out of me from that. Whether I look stupid or not, people are watching, you know? And like at the end of the day, that's really how you're successful in this.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah. So listen, I'm super grateful for everybody. Do I think things could have like been handled different? Absolutely. I think it's really hard to keep a group together and especially when someone gets really, really big, you're just going to want to be on your own time. Like even like Steve like hitting me and you have to go to his house in South America.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Yeah. Like dude, I got a crib in Cali. I'm chilling. I got a girl. I have a life out here. Like I can't just get up and leave for 90 days. You feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I'm also not. If I was 25, like yeah. Yeah, I'd do it. Yeah. But now it's just like a different time. For me, it's just the dogs, man. That's the one thing that I just like... But that comes with like having a house and being like,
Starting point is 00:40:38 you got responsibilities. Yeah. I mean, I know how you feel in that whole situation. And it's just, I'm at that point where it just, it's in the past and it doesn't matter anymore. You can always have feelings towards something. Like, if you're not happy about how you were treated, you felt as if you should have gotten equity and things or you feel like you added a lot
Starting point is 00:40:57 of value and like it was held over your head. Like, do I see the side where you're, Like, hey, bro, like, I was in all of the content and a lot of, like, the viral content. Of course. You played a huge role. Yeah. But their attitude is like, hey, we gave you that platform. And they did give you that platform.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So it's like both sides. They did, bro. I will tell you one thing that I didn't. You were already rich and you were doing. I know you. You were already good. But progression in like the storyline. I had the gym for like four years.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah, no, for sure. It definitely, they give you, you and Steve's relationship coming on and it really developed there. Absolutely. And then you guys took it to Steve's channel and your channel and you benefited. Yeah, absolutely. So I don't forget that kind of stuff too. And like, even with Steve, it's like, even though I'm here to be a dick, like, he really did change my life. So I got to show love.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And if he asked me to come out and do certain things, even though I don't want to do it, I'm like, dude, you'll help me out when I need it. And if he needs me out there, then I'll do it for him. Yeah, for sure. It's just crazy to think about where things are at now. I think it's just kind of sad. Yeah, I agree. Because I do miss when everyone got along and when we all were having fun and just while we were making, everyone was making a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:42:15 It didn't matter as much then because we were just so blinded by having such a good time and life being so crazy. Yeah. Like my favorite moments in content is when you're sitting there and you're witnessing something and you're just like, is this real life or not? Like when we were interviewing that Amish guy, the whole time I'm like, there's no way this is a real Amish guy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:35 Like, it's just this guy's like, I'm hammered in an Amish outfit. And the guy next to me is like, we're about to go to a club. Take this guy to a nightclub. Yeah. I went to his house in Buffalo, New York or wherever it was. Like, that was a full on Amish guy. Yeah. And we took him to a nightclub and he like wanted to do it.
Starting point is 00:42:55 But that kind of, it was just that kind of content, I think. think the internet has transformed so much. Like, that is such a great concept, in my opinion, but it wouldn't perform like it did those years ago. Yeah. Like today. So I think the internet's really evolved in different ways. But that kind of stuff that was so creative and just hilarious, I do miss kind of doing
Starting point is 00:43:18 that stuff, but it just doesn't, it's like, now what's on the internet now? I hear you. What are some of the other moments you think really stood out? Stood out and just where I was like, this is insane. Yeah, for you. Strickland was pretty. insane. That was insane because you think like when Strickland tells me, and I don't know, I didn't, Sean wasn't as big as he was then as he is now, obviously. Yeah. I don't even think he was
Starting point is 00:43:39 in a champion or nothing, but when he looks at you and he's like, yo, I want to take your face and break it on this table right now. And you're kind of sitting there and you're like, you don't know who's with you or if this guy's actually acting like that. So that moment I was like, what the is going on right now? This guy's scary as hell. Clearly like there's a couple screws loose and he might actually attack me right now. So, like, that was definitely another one. I'm trying to think of any travel things that were crazy. The Bachelor video for me, too, because I didn't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And that was one of my, obviously one of the, that was probably Nelk's greatest video of all time was the Bachelor video for me. Of all time? No, it was just insane because you, like, I agreed to it. And then next week there's 50 girls. I have to talk to every single one of them, which is not easy to do. And I'm trying to be entertaining. I'm not trying to be like genuine and trying to like get to know one of them.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah. And it was five days long and it was just like the craziest, that was the craziest experience of my life. Because the production was so high. We went to four different states in four days. I'm partying and like you can't tell if any of these chicks actually want you or not. Or if they're trying to get their clout moment, get their only fans pop in. Did you get any action?
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah. Respect, respect. Come on, dude. Respect, respect. Yeah. Of course. I mean, you play it like a joke and then like you, you kind of figure out like what girls actually kind of lie to you. You're funny.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. And then you start telling like the producers like, yo, dude, she should win, bro. It's good for the script if she wins. Then you end up dating them and like they're flying, flying out to L.A. And then you have a little thing for a little bit. And that doesn't work out. And then you miss her a lot. And sometimes I think that's the one that got away.
Starting point is 00:45:27 but yeah how crazy would that have been if i actually got a love relationship out of that it would be crazier if it lasted i want to like that's what i would be interested in doing a lot more videos like i think that's the love content is it's crazy but there's this one where these people get into these pods and they don't see each other for three weeks or like two months you guys know what that's called? Love is blind. Where you only talk to them through the wall and you don't see him for like four weeks or whatever. Like if we did a version
Starting point is 00:45:59 of that, it would be so funny because like you don't see them for four weeks and then you're like, you can ask them like, hey, describe yourself and like they can tell you how they look but it's up to you if you believe them or not. It's basically testing is just personality strong enough
Starting point is 00:46:14 to be somebody. But like that kind of shit I'd like to remake and I think it's funny I think we have better characters around us. where we can make better versions of stuff like that. Yeah, that sounds like a really fucking good concept. I think like for me, and to answer your question, like for passionate stuff,
Starting point is 00:46:30 like I love doing like high production. Yeah. Or just something just either has to be like absolutely insane like the Amish guy where it has to be high production and then it's so much fun. Yeah. Yeah, you're good.
Starting point is 00:46:41 You always have to be comfortable. Like if you went on that, like you would actually have, it'd be funniest to see you like keeping it real and like falling in love with some shake that you haven't seen yet. and then we reveal her. Like, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Because seeing that first reaction to how the person looks after the time is like the most bang. And you know what's funny about that? Because I have watched that show is everything that you've talked about in that first three weeks goes out the window. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:06 With the moment you see them, you're just by looks. It doesn't matter what the fuck you talked about. You're either like, yo, hell yeah, or you're like... Yes. And only based off looks. Personality's done, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Well, it's not done. It's just like, it's either friend zoned or you're getting married looks come first i hate to say that's just the facts for me i would crush i would crush in the personality and getting to know the chick that i'm getting the highest girl that way they'd see you and then they'd see me and i don't know how i would do there that's that's what would suck i'd have to like extend the reveal like yo i need two more weeks of personality traits and talking and then we'll do the reveal like an extension to really try and get them in or like a gifting yeah you do it do it
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yeah, we're just a couple moments of something like that. Here's a new bag. Yeah, just. Dude, it actually sounds like really fun content. I would do that. I mean, I'll try and set it up, and I'd love to have everyone do it, and it would be hilarious. As long as you cast the right group, everything can be done.
Starting point is 00:48:06 But you think you could do, you would do that on YouTube, like, you're on YouTube? So that's where it gets difficult, because, like, even that little Kanye video that I did, like, that was the most money I've ever spent on content. And it's, dude, you got to have a bit. Like, that's why I. Steve is why what he's doing with the gambling and his content.
Starting point is 00:48:24 He used to spend a million dollars on a video, like no problem, and you'd get great content, but he's basically still doing that. He's just losing it, and people are so bought into just him being down so bad gambling. So you have to have a huge bankroll to really do these big vlogs. Mr. Beast is like the pioneer of that, right? Yeah. He does these high production videos. He can remake the, the guy remade Squiddy.
Starting point is 00:48:49 games, bro. Yeah. Like that, what the, how the, are you ever going to, or me going to ever compete with something like that? You have to have a huge budget to do that kind of stuff. And when you do, like, then YouTube's the greatest thing of all time. So how do you compete if you don't have something like that? It's like nowadays, it's so difficult.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It's difficult. You got to have, you got to have a story. You have to have people really buy into something that you're doing. Or I think you just got to do viral. That's what I think it is. I think Steve is very. unique in the fact that he has like that when you have a fan base like that that will go anywhere you go that's that's rare now it used to not be as rare five years ago there was like four or five
Starting point is 00:49:31 big YouTubers that people really watched I feel like yeah like you'd watch you'd watch you'd watch you Steve Nelk Danny Duncan and then dobrook Doberick Mr. Beast like like Baylon Paul and like that then that was it and now there's just so many people so uh it's just yeah it's just different now definitely more watered down that's for sure it's watered down but there is nowadays there's content for everything like you can find a guy reacting to i don't know it's just like there's there's so many niches and if you can find a niche and have a loyal audience like i feel like i should get into painting no i don't i think but like when was last time you did like a lifting vlog man i did too i did that for eight years straight that's what i'm saying but there was a
Starting point is 00:50:19 where like people wanted to see that every week or every day, whatever it was. Yeah, I posted three days a week. He still has that, right? Yeah. And he posts him daily. Like, if you can really dominate that niche, you can be very successful financially and just use wise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 What? I'm ready to just quit, dude. No, dude. You got me thinking about that smoothie shot. This is the other thing is things move so fast. Like I did that podcast with Sneco. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And I don't even know what the hell that turned into. You know, it's funny, when I showed up that studio, I told him he was like, Hey, do you mind if I vlog it? And I was like, yeah, bro, do your thing. And the studio head was like, yo, you can't bring in. I think he thought it was live maybe, but he was like, yo, you please just allow him to?
Starting point is 00:51:03 Because I just had flown to New York. Yeah. And I was like, yo, can you please just allow him to just film here? Like, it's no big deal. And he's like, dude, like, that's a crazy policy. Like, we have a whole studio here. It's like, dude, just let it happen. And I think that really just set the tone
Starting point is 00:51:16 because it made it really awkward in the beginning. You were trying to set them up or some shit? I didn't, dude, I don't even know. Just like that, but that's why it's like that kind of content is so, like, toxic and just like, I don't need to do that shit anymore. That's a complete niche. Yeah. The politics shit is, it's win and lose. I mean, it's 50-50.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I know. It is 50-50. But it's also like, and I think, I think I even, like, I could tell dude, like when, when Elon Musk, like, calls, like, he's the richest guy in the world, as we know it on paper. super powerful. Like he calls for Sneiko's deportation. Like I could tell he was affected by that. Yeah. Like that definitely freaks you up and it definitely like is like, holy,
Starting point is 00:51:57 like I'm really in this now. Right. It's definitely. A lot of, and a lot of other people who watch Elon or domino effect are probably like, yeah, we agree, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So I don't think he was in. It probably radicalizes you more than anything too. Probably put him in a difficult spot. But I was also just like, dude, I don't even know. I was just like, I kind of laugh at. Like that like impulse. Like,
Starting point is 00:52:19 all right, dude, I'm flying out there. Yeah. A week later, you're just like scrolling. Like, oh,
Starting point is 00:52:25 like people are going crazy both ways. Like, I don't know. It's nuts. So no more political content for you. See, but then I do like John Kariaki
Starting point is 00:52:33 and I'm like, is this considered political or not? Like that, it's like, I just find it so interesting that a guy that, like, has all these CIA stories.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And he's just openly talking about stuff like this. that it seems like it should be so confidential, right? And he shouldn't be able to. But he's very good at telling what he can and what he can't. Like he definitely hides a lot of stuff. And I told him as a joke, I was like, so we talked about this thing called honeypotting, which I think is like the most interesting thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It's where if you were to travel to Russia or China and you go to a, like, you're staying at a hotel, like with the CIA, we'll say you're staying at the Weston Hotel. They plant these hot girls that are spies. And like they go and drink with you, party with you. That's what happened to clavicular in Israel?
Starting point is 00:53:20 No, because he went with that girl. Not the one that was there. Oh. He went with the, he went. No, there was like an Israeli girl. I don't know. I said so fucking. I don't know, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I'm, I have a chicken home and I don't know if she's real or not either. I'm serious, dude. She's from Spain. I don't know. She says she is. Who knows the truth, bro? I'm serious. I've been acting different towards her.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Oh, you think she's honeypon you after that interview? I don't know. No, I think she's been on honeyponting me for a couple of years. To what information do they want from you? I think it's just normal girl activity, bro. I can't tell if that's normal girl activity. What do you think she's trying to get from you? Like what information is she trying to gather that you would have?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Intelligence for Spain or China or somewhere else. Oh, you have Chinese intelligence? No, something that could benefit them. Like, they want to see some shit that I have. I don't know. I feel like you would work for a different government than China. I'm just going to be honest. Just based on a name.
Starting point is 00:54:15 That's funny. I'm talking about her. I'm talking about her. But so I talked to John about that and he was like, dude, you don't understand how many, it's like, CIA guys would date these chicks. Like they would date these chicks that were getting information out of them. And you have to report. So you're like, it's like pillow talking.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yeah, or like, pillow talking. And he's just, yeah. And you're like talking to him, maybe giving them a little thing. But I told him, I was like, bro, how you should be able to feel that sniff that out pretty easy. but that just shows you how strong this game is. Like if a CIA guy can't tell if a chick is with him for him, or she's trying to get her intelligence. It also shows you how powerful.
Starting point is 00:54:55 The pussy is. Yeah. But it also shows you. It's so powerful where you're like, I know she's the spy and she's probably going to get something, but I've had a few drinks and I'm going to bang her. Yeah, but it's also like if you're a CIA guy, you shouldn't be talking about any CIA shit.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Like just that. See, I don't know how, because they made movies on that. Because it's like, yeah, I get it. A guy doesn't love with a spy. Hot chick, whatever, but like, why. I just, I just, you're like, yo, the codes are over here. Like, what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:55:19 You're not saying. No, she could put a tracker in your phone when you're sleeping. You don't know what she's there to do. Oh, like she's doing real spy. Yeah, you don't know what she's capable. She could put a plant in. She put up. Wire your phone, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Chinese. Yeah, or I don't know. Another country, but they could shine. They could, uh, wire your phone. And, uh, maybe, you know, I got to check my. I have not been in here without your supervision, bro. I got nothing in here. He's just, you got a kid.
Starting point is 00:55:45 You got a camera right there. I don't know what country you're working for, but. I just have a camera there. For what reason? Security, what you mean? Why is that? Security from who? Security is what you mean?
Starting point is 00:55:58 It's important to have security. Yeah, that is a camera though. And it also gets audio and all that. Yeah. See, so that's your intelligence right there. And you should point that out. That should be, you should let me know that that's there.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah, well, you see, you don't do anything crazy. I've been on this couch. What? No, I haven't. You would go back. check all of that shit though. Probably to confirm, yeah. Just so I can get this clip and I could use it.
Starting point is 00:56:21 You can go into it, my boy. I wouldn't go into that shit. I would save it and I'd make it like a thumbnail and I'd learn a thing or two. Learn a thing or two. Yeah, yeah. The fuck you teach me. You could learn a thing or two, my boy, that's it.
Starting point is 00:56:32 You might teach me like how to like do more short strokes or something like that. No, no, no. That's probably your specialty? Yeah. But yeah, you're not CIA. No. Okay. He confirmed that real quick.
Starting point is 00:56:44 You're not massage. Too dumb. Yeah, no. Would I be a good representative of a guy who goes out and that looks like an idiot? Maybe. Maybe that's the play. Maybe that's the play. Bill, so wait.
Starting point is 00:56:55 So this guy said, you talked to him. Did he say who actually were, he's like, says like some celebrities or CIA plants? No. No, I asked him. So there's so much speculation that a lot of these podcasters are FBI or CIA. Which podcasters? The biggest ones. You can hear it about.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Tucker. Sure. Yeah. Candice. I mean, I'm sure that there's theories on everybody. Yeah. And when I asked him, I was like, are there any podcasters that you suspect or CIA? He immediately looked at me and said yes.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Like, without hesitation. So he clearly had someone in his mind. And I asked him, I was like, can you tell me who? And he was, I don't know, I'll get sued. But he was so confident when he responded. Get sued by who for what? Well, if you're defamation maybe, but also, I mean, if you're wrong, then you're, but I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Maybe if you're right, like, he probably shouldn't. even have said yes. He probably said no, just to save his own ass. But he definitely said yes. And it is funny because then it has you thinking of who he's referring to. I asked him, I was like, if you did go out with my girl, would you be able to tell? Like, if you had dinner with me and her, would you be able to tell in an hour if she was a spy or not? He was like, yeah, absolutely. That's good. See, that's something, that's some content that I would love to make. Is taking my girl to see with John Kariaku and see if she's a spy or not. That's A1. That is quality. That is a really good.
Starting point is 00:58:17 good piece of content. Yeah, he told me he was going to the fish concert. He's going to fish that night. I invited him to come to Ocean Prime. He's like, I got to go to fish. I was like, okay, we'll do it another time, which I want to do a part two. No, you should dead ass do that vlog. Like he's third wheelie. Yeah, and you just look at the intel he's picking up and then he gives a debrief. After, yeah. And if she's a spy, my life is going to suck because I really care about her. Would you cut her off if she was a spy? Yeah. Ah, yeah, no. Look how torn. I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah, probably. Because the trust is out the window. Yeah, she's a completely different person, basically. Completely different person. And then she was just out to, like, get you the whole time. He did tell me that there's been relationships where, like, you have to report he you've been with, where people have said, yeah, I'm leaving the CIA and they stick with the relationship. So that has happened.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Or dudes leave their job because they want the girl that bad. Yeah. Holy. Yeah. That guy would be interesting an interview for sure. Yeah, you should do it. He's the man, dude. Where is he at?
Starting point is 00:59:24 He was in D.C. when I did it, but you should definitely do it at some point. He's a cool-ass dude. Very friendly guy. And I just respect the fact that he talks about this so openly. And, like, I don't know how he's not more paranoid because just talking to him gave me paranoia. But that kind of shit I love. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's like the most fun I have.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I just like learning shit to be honest now and vibe with the homies. So are you going to do more like I guess you know sort of structured content like you're talking about or you're going to I'm always doing the podcast. I mean I'm doing vlogs too where I'm trying to get in shape. I think people need to see that I'm actually committed because there's always doubt and I've been saying it forever. But I have lost weight and I have been lifting pretty consistently. my diets changed completely.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Peptides have definitely helped. But I wanted to do shit like that and then legendary stuff for Instagram, but I mean, I don't know, yeah. Same. So you're not quitting. No, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I just like to text you. Well, I like to text you and just mess with you. Because you're like the older friend in the group that I needed some like motivation from. Yeah. Yeah, which you did give me, you said you sound like a f***. Yeah. And I was like, and then I got,
Starting point is 01:00:45 right back into it and I was like, yep, you're right. And the honest truth is I was just hung over and like, when I get hung over, I get like depressed. So funny, that's legitimately what I text you. Yeah. And I needed that. So I appreciate you. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you coming on the show, man. Um, is there anything else you want to cover? I think that was great. I love you, man. Yeah, you're always consistent. Yeah. You always be a friend of mine too. So I, no matter what. And I'm glad, in hindsight that I think this is something that's been beneficial. The moment you start, we never done any business financially type. Yeah. And I'm glad because then you can keep a friendship forever in this game. So that's what it is. But then didn't we just say earlier that like
Starting point is 01:01:24 to be able to have a really good business together, you have to be friends. That is true. And we have the friendship now. So we'll see what happens. Yeah. Any more to come. Appreciate your brother. Thank you. Brad. Yeah.

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