RAWTALK - The Clavicular Interview

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

On This Episode Of RawTalk, Bradley Martyn Sits Down With Clavicular And Talks About Black Pill Dating, Why Status Beats Looks, Getting A Nose Job, Looksmaxxing For Life, Owning A Club Under 21, Traditional Celebrities Dying And Much More! This Episode is Sponsored by: BetterHelp Visit https://www.BetterHelp.com/RAWTALK today to get 10% off your first month! Sponsored by: PocketHose Text RAWTALK to 64000 for your two free gifts with purchase. Message and data rates may apply. Sponsored by: Factor Meals Head to Https://www.Factormeals.com/rawtalk50off and use code rawtalk50off to get 50 percent off and free daily greens per box, with new subscription only, while supplies last until 09/27/2026. Sponsored by: Butcher Box As an exclusive offer, new listeners can get their choice between free ribeye or top sirloins for a year or ground beef and bacon for a year, PLUS $20 off when you go to Https://www.ButcherBox.com/RAWTALK Sponsor RAWTALK: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/rawtalk SUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339 FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalk TIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalk FOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartyn SUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1 SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1 SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1 RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Terrible a time. How many months was that? Five months ago? Five months. Yeah. A lot has changed in five months. Yep. Yeah. Like we're in a, I guess some would say a penhouse in Miami, last time we did in my studio. You have all this going on with your nose. But you have to be now probably arguably one of the most interesting live streamers currently.

Do you feel any sort of like ego about it? Not really. I don't really think that at all. I just kind of like the fact that there's an ideology behind the content. which gives the storyline a little bit more like thickness, I guess you could say, because most people they do an IRL stream, there's really nothing there to it. But you can actually break my content down with the whole looks back saying of the black pill. That's like the overarching theme of it, right? So you're going out and you're showing how women might be hypergamous and like, you know, how dating works and, you know, how things really.

really are in the real world versus like, you know, kind of just these artificial scenarios that you might see in a movie. Like, it's like the real deal. It's almost like applying stuff that people would sort of talk about in like the black pill sort of space. Right. Yeah. But it's seeing it in real time. Because I saw, I remember I saw, we got to talk about the nose in a sec here because obviously we got to preface the videos so people understand what's going on. And, you know, I think some people already have an idea. But I saw a clip of you talking to like some guy's girlfriend, like almost right in front of him and she's just like completely switching up. Does that happen often? Yeah, that's how it goes is they won't really be too, you know, forward thinking. They'll

sacrifice a good relationship for really just the chance at a one night stand with like some famous dude and it's ridiculous because like that famous dude ain't going to f*** with you for more than the one night. Like, yeah, and you're throwing away your happiness and this whole relationship over nothing. Do you think it's because they think that they're going to then be the one that's going to end up like being part of? Yeah. Yeah, they think they're going to like actually have a chance with these people with these top.

And it just leads to getting pump and dumped is the term I like to use by like a lot of these top chads. And that's why you see girls with like these absurd body counts and that kind of thing is is really just that mentality that they would rather go and be super hypergivist that have like a solid relationship with a guy in their league. Yeah. How do you now determine who actually is going to be with you, like a girlfriend? It has to be more complicated now.

Yeah, I wouldn't really say I have a bunch of a formula to it. Just kind of like whether or not I like a girl or not. And then... But how do you know it's not based off of just the fact that you're popular and they feel like they can find their way in the ecosystem somehow? Well, you know, I started off and I would have all these like different like requirements and ideal traits for a girl. But I'm at the point now where it's like any girl is going to just fall kind of into

place and like either lie about certain treads being true or like say you want a girl who cooks and cleans is never done your life. But now she cooks and cleans, you know, so you got what I'm saying? So you can't really believe you can't believe anything a girl's telling you at a certain level. You kind of just have to see for yourself through experience. It's a little bit different now. Yeah.

But so how do you decide? Like, I assume you have a girl now, right? Yeah. How did you decide that that was the one that you were good with? She kind of vived her hot. She's hot, so, you know. Like, I was dating a girl for a while that I liked a lot, but wasn't really that as good looking.

But now it's like a much hotter girl. Is that really just the number one metric? Well, it's certainly the thing that matters the most. for like, you know, initial attraction is looks, right? So you're not really, maybe you find a, there's a girl out there that's completely perfect in everything that you want. But if she's not good looking, you're never going to gravitate towards her. Same thing is sure with guys.

Yeah. You know, so that's really the number one thing is looks and genetics, right? It sort of supersedes everything else that happens after, like the conversation or, you know, the communication or what the person values. Right. So the genetics pills is certainly a more brutal one that I've been thinking about because what really matters at the end of the day is your offspring, right? And it doesn't matter like a girl's, you know, her attitude or all this kind of shit

in terms of contributing to how your kids are going to look, right? It's just simply based on genetics. So when you're trying to prioritize that, looks is the most. important thing to go for in a relationship. Yeah, but what if she's like super hot, but she sucks? Because genetically, I feel like we do, besides our looks, obviously are genetically predisposed by our parents, but so are sort of attitudes, personalities.

That's just kind of the way that you're raised. So, you know, these kind of things are certainly influenced by like, are your parents going to let you get away with, like, walking all over them? and whether or not you have positive reinforcement as a kid growing up, if you're good looking early in life versus you mature into it. So yeah, all these things kind of play a role. But I would just say it's kind of difficult, like for me, because girls are incentivized to not be themselves and to lie,

to fit into these ideals. So it's not what you would get, like as a normal guy, where if a girl doesn't want to do something, she doesn't want to do something, you know? But if there's like an activity or I want or, you know, like I said, a certain trait that I find ideal, she'll just kind of do that to qualify herself, whereas that wouldn't happen before. Yeah.

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that you are trying to put out to the internet. What would you sort of classify it mainly as? What are you, what are you trying to really teach people or show people? Well, I'm trying to show people how to adapt, how to adapt to one of the most brutal dating markets in history, really the most brutal market ever. So how do you get past the fact that, you know, the bottom 80% of women are going for the top 20% of men is you become the top 20% of men. The easiest way to do so is to become super good looking and to improve your looks, right? Anyone could go out and get rhinoplasty, you could lose weight, get in shape. Whereas something like becoming a mold multi-millionaire or becoming super famous on the internet, only a small top echelot of men

will ever be able to achieve that. So it just doesn't make any sense to recommend that as a means of ascension when the average person is either too low IQ or doesn't really have the motivation and work ethic to get it done. Yeah, to get there. Yeah. So you think the look stuff could just supersede everything else? I mean, I guess you're kind of talking about what you have to work with. Right. I'm just on a sociological level. It might contradict sort of my scenario when I talk about this because people will say, oh, well, you leverage your Instagram following or you leverage your money to get girls. That's like, that's a very unique anecdote and no one will really find themselves in my position to where maybe these stats have been maxed out to such a high degree that they actually are helping me more. But, you know, the average person will always have their looks to rely on first and foremost. So that's kind of what I'm talking about. Yeah, I see.

As far as as the other things like the, obviously problem solving ability, the ability to build businesses or brands, how have you navigated that? Aside from the looks maxing thing, you obviously have done that to a level. Otherwise, you wouldn't have the ability that you have. You wouldn't have the amount of success that you have, even if you were. just attractive. Right. Yeah. So the whole back end and all those systems, yeah, it's like you said, the stuff that people don't see on camera is usually more important, right? Because having good systems in place,

like you could get crushed if you're an influence or what thing goes wrong. You know, maybe you have a court case for something or this or that, whatnot. I would just say it's kind of about finding good people around you who could give you solid advice. And kind of going about it that way, just learning from the more experience. Because people on the industry are now to help and give advice where they can. Yeah.

Who have you leveraged, do you think, or who has helped you the most in this space as far as like other creators or other influencers or figures? I would say I've gotten a lot of really good advice and support from guys like Aidan Ross, You know, like when I had situations with where I lived previously, you know, people come to a house doxing me. He helped me out with that.

Now I live in one of his old apartments. So that'd be a big one. And in terms of just advice and like content direction, I mean, there's so many people who have helped me in that regard. Really, really just kind of anyone I've talked to because I was the new guy coming up. I'm like one of the only influence. influencers, I'd say the past like year or so who have made it in a big way. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Yeah, there's not a lot of like new content creators that come out. It's interesting. There's a lot of

new content creators, but there's not many that like actually get to a specific level or right at this conversation, ascend to a certain level that they're actually able to continue on and continue to make it more and more. A lot of people kind of pop up and fizzle out. Right. Yeah. So what would you attribute that to? I would just, say kind of like the entire ethos of like the looks maxing movement and they're actually being like a meeting to the content and not just having it be super random that kind of keeps people engaged because there's actually an ideology for people to follow and like something that they could personally gain and change their life through so so what are the main parts of that just like

Well, it's self-improvement. No. I mean, surgery is the most extreme version. It looks back, is like essentially taking self-improvement to its logical conclusion. But I'm not saying that, you know, the only form of self-improvement

is going under general anesthesia and having a rhinoplastie done. This is just, you know, one of the more extreme things. But looks back, it could just be as simple as going to the gym, right? All the stuff that, you know, you talk about, and everyone at the fitness is like, that still looks maxing.

Yeah. It's funny how it just got, it's just so interesting to me how I've been doing the whole gym thing for for probably 20 years at this point and how it looks maxing. It was always there. It was always a thing. And I think it was a little more niche at a time. Yes.

And I guess I had actually also talked to some people. You were originally before you ever sort of started any of the content creation. Were you a like a moderator or something on like a looks like. maxing form? Yeah, I still have. Yeah, so I moderate looksbacks.org. So it's a forum where people post like the super, super niche, like really like into it like stuff. And that's sort of where I would say I learned about a good about a stuff. That's where like a lot of the culture comes from and like the words. It's just forum speak. You know, like, yeah. And when people say like max, they're saying it to be ironic. But what I say,

it's a little more just cold and regular because that's how I'm spending hours a day typing. Yeah. Is it funny to see how it becomes such like a cultural thing outside of that form? Yeah, people find it really, really funny. And I mean, I get it. I probably thought of it in the same way. Like this is kind of, you know, a little bit ridiculous, but I like it. It's funny.

So, yeah, I mean, I like it. But I would say that it's misuse. used a lot of the time. So as someone who's really like into the super niche part of the internet that looks maxing, I might find it a little cringe every once in a while. Yeah. What's the, what's the most sort of extreme thing you've seen someone do on that form? Most extreme thing is probably like self-performing like gyno cabassia removal surgery. Taking out the breast tissue. Yeah. I've seen that. I've seen people self-install. pallet expanders.

Yeah, I saw this the other day. Like someone put like a thing in their mouth and they're like extending it? Yeah. So that's like, I would say the self surgeries, the DIY surgeries. That's insane. Yeah. So the nose thing, you, because last time we talked, I think you said you want to do something with your jaw. Yeah.

But you did the nose thing first. Yeah. How did that come about? So the nose thing, it just so happened that I was getting a scar fixed up by Dr. Miami and then I just asked him if he could do my nose too and with it he basically got it on the books within like five days so it was pretty I was just able to kind of get in there and get it the looks max thing must be pretty enticing or interesting to the plastic surgery community for sure yeah well it's nice because like with my cases they're taking a lot more seriously than just

some random retard who goes in for like obviously they care a lot less but if they mess up my nose it's like not a good look for it. Yeah, their whole business? Yeah, so I'd say it's definitely a lot. Would you actually change just to make it more straight? Yeah, but I know it's more straight. It's less wide, the ailer base, and the tip is derotated slightly. So it already looks a lot better.

I could tell just even with the cast on. So I'm getting the cast removed on the 10th, so like another six days. But yeah, it's kind of, it's hard to breathe right now, which is the only thing, because there's a lot of stuff inside my nose. Yeah. Was it painful? No. Obviously you were asleep, yeah.

When you woke up, was it pain? No. Just drugs. Aesthetic, obviously, from the surgery. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. She's got to be chilling, sleeping. Yeah.

I mean, I should dream the same day. Yeah, I saw. Yeah, I was gambling. So, yeah, no, I mean, the pain isn't terrible because I didn't have any modifications to the bone to, like, my frontal bone. Like, this right. here. Just more the cartilage. Just cartilage. Soft tissue work. So that is a lot

easier of recovery. That's why I don't have any bruising around my eyes or no swelling on the rest of my face really is because of the fact that it was simply just a soft tissue surgery. Yeah, ironically enough, the only thing I ever got surgery on was my nose, but it wasn't for

cosmetic purposes. It was because I got a deviated septim. I had to breathe like terrible through my, I think it was my right nostril, yeah. Now I feel good. But since you've been in Miami, What's changed the most? Obviously, besides the fact that you now own a club? Yeah. How did that come about? So that came about... Because you got all these rumors.

Yeah. You know, there's a lot of rumors about you. Yeah, so that came about because I was looking to do a club up in Fort Lauderdale during my stream marathon. And then just someone brought another opportunity to me to do something in Miami, which made a lot more sense. so thank God I didn't do the club up in Fort Lauderdale the place is closed down and goes down now yeah so yeah I got involved and invested in that

because there's something I was already doing anyway right I'm going to the club every day on stream like wide by night yeah so a lot of people will just kind of like be a huge billboard for a lot of different random bull but that's not how I wanted to do things it's I only wanted to promote and you know, do whatever business that made sense for my brand. And that's a huge one. Yeah. The nightlife thing. I saw you getting kicked out of tons of random spots or you can't film or

they give you an issue. Yeah. It's kind of like me with the gym. I'm not going to lie. Originally with my gym just to film content because I was getting kicked out of gyms. Yeah. So that's exactly it. So it's like a streamer friendly thing. What you're getting is, and I'm sure you've noticed it too with your gym, it's just free marketing, really. Yeah. Because the clips inside of the place go extremely viral. So now when people come to Miami, they're not from here, not familiar with the nightlife. They've seen Bachar, but they haven't seen anything else.

So they're only going to know about that, only know when to go there. So before you became a part of it, it was already existing space, correct? Yeah, but only operational like, you know, once a week or something like that, horrible numbers. How much has it changed since you've been a part of it? Went from doing about 200,000. revenue to $750 in the first 30 days I took over. Damn. Yeah.

So how much of that, how much of that money do you actually see? Well, I mean, the margins are a little bit. It's probably similar to the margins you're used to clothing wise. I see. Okay. Like 30%. Yeah. So you're like, are you, I'm assuming you're not trying to sit pocket wash, but like,

you're like a quarter owner or half or? Yeah, half. Half. Nice. Yeah, you got all the allegations, the Israeli allegations are like, oh, they got them. Well, I mean, like, you know, doing business with someone who's Jewish, it's like, I don't really understand why it's like of such significance. The internet runs with it, however, yeah. Yeah, it's like it's the nightlife in Miami, you know, I don't understand.

I would say majority of the businesses in Miami. Yeah. Kind of like that. Yeah. So, yeah, it's all a little bit ridiculous. Yeah. It is what it is. You're not like, none of that phases you.

No, I kind of don't really spend too much time looking at social media, like stuff about me. Because it was just constant scroll. I got TikTok. All I see is my own clips. It's like I don't really want to see that anymore. I deleted X off my phone. Yeah. Yeah, I don't do it.

I don't ever look at Twitter. I feel like I can't go on X without seeing your clips. Yeah, I don't... Like, ever. Yeah. In terms of, like, all my social media pages, like Snapchat, Instagram, X, like, I don't, like, I'm not logged into any of it.

It's interesting. I was, I was, I was so much more, like, when I was starting, I was so much more obsessed with what people were saying about me. Yeah, I don't want to know. I really don't. It just affects your mental state too much, so it affects the content you do

where it's like, I feel like you're just being influenced by retards who it's like, okay, well, like, why should I listen to people who are in like no position to give me advice what I know it works? You know what I'm saying? It's like I'm the one who had all the ideas that make me go viral in the first place. Why change that? So, yeah, I just logged out of all of it and someone posts on there for me. It's fucking smart.

Yeah. Have you noticed that you've sort of influenced an entire sort of new generation of content creators who looks maxing as sort of the forefront of their character. I also will not interact with anyone else in my niche. Like so usually on TikTok, like whenever I scroll and see another looks maxing video, I'll just block the page. That's so funny. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I just don't give a fucking like. I like to censor what I see. So yeah, no looks maxing stuff, all blocked. But are you aware that you for sure have influenced? Like there's a bunch of kids I know who are like kind of trying to come up streaming and. Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. They're trying to make a come up off my name more than they're trying to make a come up off looks maxing.

So it's like if they want to do looks maxing, go for it. But, you know, if you're going to put my tag and say my name and all these videos, like, yeah, you're getting blocked. Yeah. I get it. It's just so fucking crazy. It's just funny. It's like, you're that guy in the new generation. It's just like, oh, I have to do it like this guy.

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and increases your reach so much because everyone is scrolling on these short form apps like reels and TikTok, whereas not everyone is watching a kick stream, you know, as a concurrent viewer. So if you're only on kick and you're not, you know, having your clips get out there or only on Twitch, whatever, your reach is going to be like a hundred times less. Yeah. Even if the viewership is the identical. Yeah. Kick has done an amazing job, I think, at disrupting this market of streaming and making the

I don't know, the view-bodying thing, the clipping thing, the stream numbers thing. I was curious, do you watch, do you like make sure you have a certain number of, you know, viewers, or did you not even worry about any of that? I don't really care. There's a new future that you could turn it off. I saw that, yeah. So I turned it off now. You just don't care.

Yeah. You think clips are more important? Well, it's, like, more important for what? It's like more important for, like, you know, your branding and, like, just, your overall reach, yeah, I'd say so, but like for, you know, your stream, it's like maybe how much money you're getting paid to do your gambling and how much money you're making for KPP. It's like that obviously matters for your live viewers. But the reason I turn it off is just because you're competing with such obviously fake metrics. Yeah.

So where it's like maybe I'll be streaming to like 7,000 to 10,000 people. And then you see people streaming to like 50,000 with similar engagement. It's like what's even the point of this? Yeah. The view by the is really just, I think, the game up because it, smaller streamers who want to come up are, I think, more hesitant to start. Because I think, like, you go in there and have a couple viewers

and you're demoralize that you don't have as much. Well, I would say it really ruins anything because it's like, it's not really like a barrier to entry thing where, like, you could only do it as a top streamer. So like anyone could go out and buy a million views But it's just super easy I would say to To tell But the thing that it kind of like cheats

Is getting collabs Because collabs who don't really understand the streaming game Are looking at those numbers like oh okay This guy is streaming to this many people I'll do a collab whereas like the numbers are real Yeah In terms of how much money you make You're not getting paid from doing it

so it doesn't really matter. Yeah. So the club thing, going back to that a little bit, that has helped you, has that helped you in your personal brand? Yeah. Well, it's a huge resume boost. I mean, like, we've sold out the club

pretty much every single night it's been open since we got involved. Yeah. So now when we go and we're trying to get bookings for appearances in college, it's like the easiest thing ever because they see what I can do, you know? It's like we can do this at our club,

but we can do this at your club. if clavicular is coming or if clavicular's got anything to do with it, the bar sold out. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's a non-negotiable. So getting adequate compensation is incredibly easy. Yeah. How do I go around this question?

But like, it's just, I think I saw Jake Paul ask you this, but how do you own a club when you're under 21? Well, as long as you're not drinking there. I mean, it's the same as if you're 18 years old, you could work in a club, right? So there's really no restrictions there. It's just you got to be a teen. That's it. Okay, it makes sense. So, yeah, I just thought I was like, that's pretty funny people, just like, you just,

I get, you don't, and you're not really a drinker anyways. You don't really like drinking. I've never liked this. It's also just like opposite of looks max. I think it's terrible for you. Yeah, it just, it doesn't allow you to be productive the next day. If you're waking up, I'll hug over, you know, that day, productivity is dead.

It's like, it's just not something that's sustainable. Yeah. That people are drinking more to keep. kill it and it just becomes a whole thing. Yeah. Not good. So I saw a clip of you talking about wanting to do like a enlargement surgery. Is that real or is that fake? I think that's probably just something I was me big about.

The problem is like with all the enlargement stuff is they have like stuff certain types of fillers but it'll look like a little bit weird because it won't go into the tip of your so it'll just be like a little bit disproportionate. So I'd say like traditional P.E. is still pretty good, you know? PE. Enhancement through like, yeah.

I mean, we talked about that before, I think last time, but. Yeah, it's legit. That actually works? Yeah, it's super legit. But isn't it only work if you're consistently doing it? Yeah, it's like semi-perpetent. So like you're stretching the ligaments out. It'll already.

But it's like the gym, I would say. It's like if you stop working out, you're going to lose. Get flatter. You're gay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But, you know,

still going to maintain a good about of it as well. How many times a week do that? I'd say I'm less consistent with it now. Like, it's pretty rare that I pub, like once every two weeks. It's such a funny thing. Yeah.

I just remember being, like, younger, being like, that's real? Always thought it was fake. I just never thought it was actually, like, a legitimate thing. Well, stuff like that, it's like,

you have to question, like when, like, this pretty people really be putting, like, a huge cylinder on their, like, if it did,

work, you know what I mean? So like that, that's very legit. So what are, what are, what would you say your like actual whole sort of schedule is things that you do consistently every day that kind of lean towards health or looks maxing? I'd say like my supplement protocol, uh, I'm pretty consistent on like, you know, like TRT, uh, judasteride, like whatever medications like that. Uh, you have to do like my retitry. I spend every five days.

That's kind of like a no questions ask type thing. And the stuff I need to get better on is certainly like food quality. Like my calorie deficit is always generally consistent because it's so easy. I get so many steps into a higher-all-stream that I could get away with eating bullshit. But that doesn't mean I necessarily should. So kind of dial like that in would be nice, even though the overall total macros is pretty ideal. I see.

So you don't do any like red light, you don't do stuff like cryos, things like that? No, that's mostly, I mean, red light therapy is quite good for your collagen, but it just becomes like, you know, you're doing this thing and you're doing that thing. And I don't really have time or I wouldn't be consistent. So she's about picking up things that matter the most, I'd say.

I see. So the pharmacology is you think is the most. Yeah, most important and easiest. Yeah, I noticed that. It's sort of like your, what's the easiest route to it? Yeah. It's interesting. What do you do that's like completely, I guess people wouldn't know about?

Like, what do you actually have fun doing? Well, I would say that there's no reason for me to do any activities that I like off stream because it just kind of ruins. like I don't get necessarily bothered by there being a camera. You know, I'm just so used to it. And I'm not going to, like, have a bunch of fun and not get content out of it. Because that would ruin it for me if I'm like, ah, you know, like, this would be really good for stream right now.

Get what I'm saying? So, I said I don't really do anything off camera. It's like you just wake up, nothing, and you're streaming. Now you're doing stuff. It's funny because, like, I guess I've been doing it for so much longer. obviously a different type of content, but it's still content in general. And I sort of like, there's things that I want to do that are fun, that it's almost more fun when it's not on camera.

Yeah. You're just not at all in that headspace. I guess, I mean, I miss make sense of the age and where you're at and what you're doing. Yeah, because it's just like, you don't have to edit it or really like, it's not like something you're constantly thinking about, like YouTube where it's like, okay, you're building a story and it's more intentional. Streaming is like very random, you know, just completely raw. So it's not that hard.

So you just, you're, you would say that you genuinely probably put majority of your life and the things that you enjoy just on camera. Yeah. Otherwise you're just, you're probably sleeping or eating or doing something basic. Yeah, I'll be in my apartment all day. Has streaming made you not want to go out unless you're streaming then? Yeah. Yeah, because it's like, you don't want to really waste, like, you know,

potentially and how much you're going to enjoy the club if you're doing it so frequently and, like, waste your days of exposure, I guess you could call it off off stream. Those really make sense. When you go, because I know you're not talking about doing these sort of like college tour, like you're going to show up to colleges or like bars and things like that. Yeah. What is the kind of person that mostly comes up to you? Like, what would you say that demographic is?

18 to 24. year old boys and girls were like 55 45 45 that's your ratio yeah holy that's actually impressive yeah the gym thing has got me is just like 100% dudes yeah well that's how it goes same with like well my kick stream is probably like 97% male audience just because that's who uses those sort of platform yeah no girls don't sit there and watch streams like they scroll on tictock you know so when when people come up to you what's the number one thing they say can you rate me that's got to be tiring that's got to be so tiring that's like me being like oh well what you bench bro bench right now what's your split yeah what does it matter you know what my split is you think it's my split

that is the reason that i'm 260 pounds mother you're like yeah no it's even if you tell people that you're an asshole but it's like your rating doesn't really matter it's just you should know like what's your sort of in the looks back scene and you're like super aware of all the different methods it's just something you'll understand you know but like be telling some of their rating will do nothing for them it's like you have to improve and get better that's what you should focus on now your desal rating yeah that's got to be kind of crazy though like sort of monotonous girls do the same thing yeah and it's like there They'll beg you.

They'll be like, come on, I don't care. I don't care. But it's just like, I just don't want to be an asshole. You know what I mean? That's like, just going to ruin your day. If I'm honest with you, and then I'm going to look like a retard if I'm not. So it's like it's a lose-lose situation.

Yeah. You know. Bro. I can't think which one's worse. How much you bench or fucking rate me. Yeah, I just will say no. The same thing with people ask you how much you bench, just say, oh, I don't bench.

Yeah. Yeah. I pretty much started doing the same thing. I mean, years ago now. Or just lie. Yeah, about some pounds. Yeah. Just f***le of them.

Say 405. Say they're 10 out of 10. Yeah. No, I mean, most of the time, if I'm just at the club having a good time, I'll just say, you're hot, you're hot enough for me. Yeah. Just say you bog, then walk away, you know. I love how Mog was a thing, like, even before the looks maxing.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's still. like from like red pill like stuff and like forum speak but yeah it was it definitely like adapted from like a lot of gym guys started saying it first back in like 2021 yeah so yeah i remember seeing people would still say bog before it looks maxing was big yeah what's your gym sort of routine like are you still like super active no no i got to get back into the swing of things i'm not really consistent with it yeah that's been one of the things that Since I started streaming, I really haven't lifted.

That sucks. Yeah, now I can't lift for a month. Yeah, you got time on that. Yeah, so I'll take my time on it. You know, once I get just more dialed in with everything, like, behind the scenes, that takes away my time, I won't have an excuse, you know. I'll have enough time to work out and stream. Just like right now, stuff I'm doing off camera, like, try to get everything set up,

like all the logistics, the support systems. It's very type-consuming. Yeah, what's the plan moving forward? I mean, I know you have this sort of setup over here, like sort of like looks like a doctor kind of room, and you have the college tour thing you want to do. What are the bigger plans that you have coming up? So the college tour is probably going to be the biggest one that's in the future.

But besides that, just work labs. After the college thing, we'll have a lot more for, proof of concept that we could go and do these type of like appearance related things and that they go well for the businesses. So kind of just building that out and just showing people more brand legitimacy and that, you know, what we're doing, it's all very serious, will be very helpful, you know? Yeah. I mean, how much do you really think about how popular you've gotten? Does it ever trip you out? Like, did you think it was going to be like this? No, because Not much has changed because I was always, since about 20, 25, I would hang out with like

influencers mainly. So people coming up on the street asking for pictures, is it like the craziest thing for me of a voice inside of sort of a internet personality? Because I was posting on forums and like some very small on TikTok. So people knew me. But I would hang out with like guys like, you know, I don't know if you're Cookie King. Yeah. So we'd all be, so someone was asking for a picture, you know. And for me, it's like I love a very chill life off camera. It's like I don't really do anything.

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reach the gut alive. When it comes to gut health, Activia is the number one family doctor recommended probiotic yogurt brand. Choose Activia. Feel good from the inside out. Visit activia.ca for more details. I feel good. Yeah, let's get back in this podcast. What do you think people really like about you? Like why they've been drawn to you? Because the thing that I know that I enjoy whenever I see content of you is that you're just super blunt. I think just people have like a certain agenda all the time. It's like very obvious. You know, and the stream's kind of just like you never know what's going to happen next. People enjoy that. It's like it's real. Like it's out and about. It's not like this controlled setting bullshit where there's no like

variables to the content or anything that could go wrong necessarily. Because usually on the stream something will wind up going wrong. Yeah. And that's that's like a viral moment. in it of itself. Yeah, the whole crashing out in the club thing. The reaction to that, did you change any sort of habits that you had? Because I feel like you got on stream after that and we're like, yo, I'm done drinking, I'm done doing anything recreational in that sense. The crash out of the club? Yeah. What do you mean? Were you like, they carried you out? Oh, yeah, just like, should not do this again, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah, so not too big of a deal. Yeah, for sure.

What is the purpose of the content that you want to do over here with the doctors? Oh, just like get back into more like informational-based content because looks back to seeing right now is like a very small part of like the content that I do. And it was one of the bigger things coming up. So sort of getting back to the basics, I would say, because people like that stuff anyway. And I'll get asked about it all the time, but I'll just be in a setting where I don't really want to talk.

Like, you know, when I'm at a bar, like, I want to talk to girls. Like, I don't want to talk about looks maxing. So setting up the right environment to where those questions are more acceptable would be nice. Yeah, I see. You can do it with, like, doctors and things like that? Yeah. And is it more, like, surgery related or just, like, health overall fitness?

Whole scope. Yeah. So that's the thing that's nice is you can talk to anyone. You know, anyone who has something meaningful to talk about looks max-wise, you know, you could do a show with them. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, even here in this space now, it's like I know you're planning to do more like home-based sort of content that is,

what I'm assuming can only be more value-driven? Correct. Do you think that your audience has the attention span for that? I would say not really, but like there are certain people who want to see that kind of stuff. And maybe if my fan base is used to like crazy IRL, like, Some of them won't watch it, but there's enough people who do to where I want to still do that kind of shit. So it's like you could find me talking about looks maxing in a serious way, and you could also find me doing the same shit I'm doing now. You know, just like a lot more variety is always something that's good.

Yeah, for sure. Do you think you'll ever get married? Yeah. Yeah. You want family and all that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would just say probably not through like the state.

Yeah, yeah. Signing contracts and shit. Yeah. Can't do that. Do you ever think about when that would happen? Like, is there a timeline on that? Like, I guess the question is really, at what age do you think for a guy, a young man, is like, is appropriate to start really thinking about those sort of things?

Well, I don't think my life is a great example of how to do things whatsoever because it's so not typical. Like, I should be a sophomore in college. Right. But, you know, I've been established enough and financially, stable enough to where I could have a family right now and it would make sense, you know, but that's just not going to be the average person. So I'd say like around 25 probably is like a good time to start thinking about it. Yeah, that makes sense. So you just mean some more so like

if you're actually established. Yeah, it's about financial stability. To have it, to even have a good family. Yeah. You don't want to be getting married and like be worried about that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's not good for any kid, you know, especially. of you divorce. It's, you know, no kid. It's going to benefit for a single parent household. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So the recovery on the nose, how long is that? Just about a week until this cast comes off. And then I'll just have to tape my nose for another month or so. But the majority of the recovery is one week process. Yeah. And then there's swelling that subsides over the span of like a year, but like in a week, I'll be like 80% healed.

Yeah. Did you still want to stream today? I thought I'd be able to stream, but it's just I can't breathe, really. So I can't walk around. I get, you know, too tired. Yeah. I feel bad we got him talking all this time with the nose trying to breathe through his mouth. Yeah.

I appreciate you doing this too, for real, by the way. No worries. Do you ever do psychedelics in regards to self-improvement? No, I mean, I've taken psychedelics, but I hate them. I'm a huge, like, psychedelic hater. I think it's, like, hippie bullshit. So, like, mushrooms and LSD have given me nothing but negative experiences. So I just, I never fuck with that.

What about the small doses? because I think they proved it like it's like really good for longevity. It's really good for your brain actually to take mushrooms and LSD makes you more neuroplacic. Like there are benefits, but just for me it's like I had the worst experiences ever with the stuff. So I'll just never do it again. Yeah, even in a small amount. Yeah, like 150 micrograms of LSD had to be like. leg at the bottom of, you know, hiding in my car.

I, like, got in the backseat, like, was sitting, like, hiding just, like, for six hours. I couldn't move, so I'll never do that shit again. When was that? Was that before you did all the streaming stuff? No. Is it, like, October? Yeah, I've probably had similar experiences when it comes to psychedelics. But, like, on the microdose side of it, I feel like there's a lot of benefits on that side of it.

Yeah. Mushrooms too. They just kind of make me feel a little like anxious, like uneasy feeling the whole time. So I hate them. It ruins my mood a lot. I'll like take it every like six months or whatever just to remind myself like how terrible it is. But I probably never going to do LSD again. I shouldn't do mushrooms. It's not for me. Yeah, I guess that's how I already have like an ideal brain chemistry and where I'm at with everything mentally. So it's like why mess up a good thing? Yeah. Do you think you'll be doing the looks maxing thing?

Like your whole life thing, it's just a part of you? Like how the gym is sort of a part of people that... Yeah, I'd say so. Because I just recognize the value to it. Like I would be so into it if there wasn't so much to gain. You got to be it. It is funny. I mean, the most conversation people try to have with you around the looks maxing thing

is that like, what about all the other things that matter? You notice that? Yeah. And it's like, why are they mutually exclusive? it's like look at what I'm doing it's like I'm maxing out like every pillar possible like trying to work on like different business ventures and uh become a more well-rounded person it's like yet like they're acting like looks maxing and like your career and your income like are something that don't align it's a completely ridiculous one they're actually super intertwined like how much

money you make and how good looking you are are very correlated right so for example like they do a lot of research on job interviews based on looks level and less qualified people who are better looking are getting these jobs so it absolutely does better yeah i see yeah it's interesting though that people have that i mean i guess as you get older too you sort of have a different perspective on things but certainly when you're younger it's sort of even more important i guess yeah absolutely i wonder if your perspective on all this shifts or changes as you get older. Not really as you get older. It's just like as you realize that there's more nuance to life. Like, you know, as I get more, you know, into social media, it's like my takes on certain things

have changed. I didn't even like recognize the fact before I started doing all this that like how much status you have plays a role into how many girls you could get. I didn't even think that was true. I thought that was a cope. But obviously. Even outside of looks, you mean. Yeah. Yeah. But obviously. as I know now, it's a huge thing. Which one do you say would you argue is bigger? Like value-wise? Well, for my case, it's like, I would say that I

get more from, like, my status than I do from my looks. Because, like, in terms of percentiles, it's like, you know, maybe I'm above average looks-wise, but it's not that point, top point zero-zero-zero-zero-one percent, like internet virality how high status I am. Yeah.

So you think that matters more sometimes. Which is I'm more rare in that category than I have in the looks category. Yeah, I see. Yeah. That makes sense. It's funny how it's like this, I don't know, sort of thing that people are trying to attain.

But it's the harder thing, much, much harder thing to attain is the status or cloud, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, no, everyone, Cloud Chaser, but it has to get to such a high level, or else no one really gives, nobody gives it anymore about 10,000 followers on Instagram because you're competing at that point with people who have millions. Instagram globalizes dating to where, like, you could be talking to a girl who lives across the country, you know what I'm saying?

So the local guy who thinks he's popping with 1020K on IG, it's not shit when a huge influencer in Miami is going to fly. lie her out, you know? Yeah. Do you think celebrityism has sort of died, like traditional celebrityism? Like, you know, the whole, like, I don't want to say that Kardashians, I'm not saying they're not popular or famous, but that sort of actor, you know, A-list celebrity, it seems like it's gotten less and less sought out. Not that, obviously, people. Nobody cares about, yeah, these, like, because it was all propped up and built by, like, these places like TMZ. So it's all bullshit. It's not real. They were kind of writing the story on who this person was

and none of it was like actually authentic. And now with the influencer, how much content people are actually doing, you're getting to see the full picture on everyone and decide how you feel about that person because you know everything about them. Right. Like these celebrities are like these just mysterious figures who get photographed by paparazzi where like a, big hoodie and sunglasses. Yeah. And, you know, people would just kind of think of whatever personality that they wanted these people to have and they would apply that. So now that just is like a dead concept. So, yeah, like the Kardashians, like Kendall Jenner, those type of people, like, it's just

not really relevant. Yeah, it's interesting how that's happened. Who through, sort of last question, because I know this is getting tough. through the club and through your interactions there who have you met that you really liked and who have you met that you really disliked? I would say I met a good amount of artists that I liked

let me think who was the best actually I did really like Bobby Schwernerner's performance, even though originally we weren't super aligned, so he was cool. I met Kodak Black was super nice guy. And other influencers, obviously, that I already had known. I had a good time with like six, nine came.

The place was like shut down completely. So that was good. And I haven't really had too many bad experiences besides like the whole thing with DeBaby or whatever. him and his crew not being the most respectful of our safety rules, but, you know, not too many complaints. Yeah. Who do you, who do you still really want to have, do an appearance? Like Playboy Cardi would be a cool one or Travis. That'd be crazy. Yeah. Like those two would be great, great performances. Yeah. I got to check out the club, man, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. I'm opening a new

zoo out here too, so I've got to have you come by, work out, maybe get back in the swing of things. Absolutely. Yeah, no, if you ought to come by the club tomorrow night, we'll be now. Yeah, I'll check it out. Well, I appreciate your time, bro. Is there anything else you'd like to say? I don't think so. I think I covered about everything. Thank you so much again, for real. I'm proud of your success, man. I know we talked. And since then, I think six months had passed. It's like you've gone from, you know, a certain level, already sort of high to like an even higher level. And I'm proud of your success for real. Thank you. Yeah, you're crushing it, man. All right. And I think you have, I guess I don't know, because like a lot of,

of people probably have a certain perspective of you because they don't know enough about you, but like you're actually a really sincere person. Thank you. And I'm, and I'm proud of you, man. I mean, you don't need me to say it, but I know your audience probably loves you and, and then you deserve it. So thanks. Yeah, brother. I appreciate it. Good to talk to you. Yeah. Sorry about the, what's that? She said, thank you guys. Yeah. Sorry about fucking pushing you to do the thing without, you know. Ah, no, man. It was, it was good. I haven't been doing these past two days, so, uh, wanted to push myself a little bit. So. Cool. Well, thank you, bro.

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