RAWTALK - The Dan Bilzerian Interview

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Dan Bilzerian and talks biggest mistakes made by men, Dan's last straw with Isreal, getting sued by his dad and much more! Hope you guys enjoy, see you next Tuesday! Check out Dan's Supplement Company, Protocol Performance! https://protocolperformance.com/ Sponsored by: Prize Picks Use code “BRADLEY”& Make your first $5 line up & get $50 whether you WIN OR LOSE! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/BRAD

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Code Bradley, put in $5 on your first lineup. You get $50, literally for free, win, loser, draw. All right, let's get into this podcast. man i haven't done a podcast in a minute last one i did was uh that fucking pierce did you see that one yeah yeah yeah we'll go straight into it um dude this is actually really cool for me because we've known each other for like five like eight years or something yeah it's been a very long time um and and obviously i just want to preface this by saying uh got a ton of respect for you and I love what you've done over all the years obviously I was a fan

I think before I met you um but shit has been crazy lately would you agree yeah yeah um I'm kind of curious where where did the where did you decide because you don't have to do seemingly like any of this shit you don't really have to make content anymore I don't think you ever really seeming like you had to I think obviously you built your personal brand but you still decide to come and come and take like real controversial takes. And I'm just curious, when did you decide you were going to do that? So basically for me, Raffa was the red line. Like I basically, you know, October 7th happened.

I think people started looking at Israel more. And then when they pushed them into refugee camps and they bombed the refugee camps, and this was around about the time, I think it was a Memorial Day or Veterans Day or one of those, I'm an ex-Navy vet, right? and I had been researching this stuff looking into Israel more and people had been going both sides of it you know Israel's some motherfuckers

you know they're a best ally and so I just kind of wanted to do some research for myself and I saw the USS Liberty I don't know if you I've seen this I've looked into some of the stuff I don't know all the details of it so I can't really So USS Liberty I'll give you like a quick breakdown of it Basically Israel was at war

And they wanted to drag the US into the war with them So they attacked one of our Navy ships And they did, I mean, it wasn't just like a regular attack. They were like napalming the decks, fucking blown up the life rafts. They torpedoed the ship. I mean, they just, you know, went out this ship for like an hour and a half. And we had called an SOS calls. We're supposedly their ally.

And their goal was to sink this ship. They had four torpedo boats. Like they fucking had multiple gun ships, helicopters, jets. And, you know, they wanted to sink the ship and they want to blame it on the people they were fighting, false flag attacks. And then we would go and fight the people that, you know, at war with and they did the same thing with Levant affair and you know I think they did the same exact thing with 9-11 so they've got a history of these false lag attacks but at the time I didn't

really know all this like I just started kind of getting into it and when I read about the USS Liberty that one kind of hit home because they put a gag order on these people basically you know they killed all these you know U.S. Navy guys and you know like I said their goal is to blame it on the people they were fighting and you know I'm just like how the fuck are we allies of the country that's attacked us multiple times, stolen our secrets, you know, as you start to like learn more and more, it's all bad. Like there's no good. They've done nothing for us ever. And we just constantly fucking send them. And so then I started doing a forensic accounting and the money that we sent them. We sent them, depending on if you want to go with the Newsweek or, you know, the Brown

University study, we've given them in aid, like between what we've given them, the war and terror and the things we've done for them between 20 and 30 trillion fucking dollars. So it's almost like our entire national deficit is our support of Israel. And they've done nothing for us. And so I started looking at, you know, what's going on over there. And it was, you know, to me, a complete fucking one-sided genocide. There was, wasn't a war. The people don't have fucking guns. You got a small resistance organization like Hamas. And you're just bombing more than 50% civilian infrastructures. You're cutting off water. You're cutting off electricity. Like, you know, all this stuff. And to me, it's just, you know, it's war crimes and we're funding it. So that was where I, like,

not to go too down the fucking rabbit hole but to give you some context of why I kind of like came back on social because you went on a trip with me like we you know you were like in the heart of ignite like you know all the fucking girls running around all the shit you know and it's like and it was like I was fucking more than half the girls in that trip you know I was there. I was there and openly you know it was like and they were all cool with it like it was you know it's just a different time of my life I was getting high every day like that's what I was doing and then I wrote my book and then I kind of like step back and then I kind of like step back. from social media a bit because I just been doing it a long time. I didn't really care. And I didn't need people telling me I was fucking great. I didn't need to brag. It goes just kind of over it. And really like the last couple years of Ignite, I was just doing it from the company. And yeah, I think the big thing for me was, you know, seeing what was going on there. And I felt like I had this platform. So I felt like I had an obligation to say something because everybody else was scared to say something. Nobody wanted to say something. And I think that was another reason too why I felt it was important to do it is because nobody else wanted to.

Well, that's the thing I find I find most interesting about this whole conversation in general is most people in the creator space or just in media in general are somewhat like it feels taboo to talk about these things and that alone and I think because people are afraid of like whether it be like the repercussions of like brand deals or 100%. And it to me is that idea in of itself that people are afraid and like i think in some cases rightfully so it makes me question like why why would it be such a taboo thing to talk about if it wasn't a problem exactly that's the whole thing like you can talk shit about muslims you can say whatever the fuck you can you know bill mars calling him fucking terror saying their entire religion's fuck it like you can say

whatever you want it's totally okay and that's like a quarter of the globe right so to me i look at this and i'm just like wait what the fuck is going on like why can you say whatever you want about these people, these people, these people, the moment you say something, they're just such a protected class. And then I started looking at it, like, why are they so protected? And it's like, okay, you know, the Holocaust. That's what everybody points to. That's why they're so protected. And then you start looking at the numbers of the Holocaust. And it's fucking bullshit. It gets fucking bullshit. And they revise the figures. It's not like some crazy conspiracy. They said four million people died in Auschwitz. And then they literally revised it and said

it was more like 1.1 to 1.5 million. Well, it's like, how can you be that fucking far off? It's like less than half of what you said. It's a quarter of what you said or, you know, or like a third of what you said. And then you start looking at like just the math on this stuff. Like the math doesn't math. Like you cannot cremate that many bodies. You'd be creaming those fucking bodies for hundreds of years. Not to mention like gas chambers are not like an effective, efficient way to kill people.

And these are the, these are the guys that have the best fucking tanks, the best fighter jets, the best technology of anybody in the fucking world. and they're going to put a wooden door and a gas chamber I mean just think about the logistics of it if you just want to kill you know whatever say five six million people

you're not going to march a hundred of them into a shower at a time gas them wait for the gas to fucking release then put all those people in fucking wheel barrels wheel them out dig a fucking hole like think about the time it would take like so do you think that do you think that none of it happened

I think that they were not death camps and when you and the Red Cross went in there and they you know they did their assessment they said 280,000 Jews or 271,000 Jews died in Auschwitz and it was mostly from typhus and mostly from malnutrition. And you look at like, you know, the only gas they had in the walls, which that gas stays in the walls forever was zygom B. Zygon B is to kill typhus. That's not like what you used to kill people. And so you start looking at this stuff and you're just like, yeah, obviously Jews died in World War II. But like you're talking about a war where like 80 million fucking people died. And you're

also talking about like, you know, the communists, which we sided with, you know, prior to that, that was the Bolshevik communist revolution. And they killed like 30 million fucking Christians. Just during that alone. And those are the people we side with. And that was 84% Jewish. So, you know, the Bolshevik revolution is 84% fucking Jewish. And they mass murdered Christians. Nobody talks about that. Why don't they talk about that genocide? They only talk about six million Jews, six million Jews, six million Jews, six million Jews. And that six million figure was used like 256 times in newspapers, you know, New York Times, all these reputable newspapers before World War II even started. It was six.

million Jews, six million Jews. It was like, and then you look at the Census Bureau and there's more fucking Jews two years after World War II than there was before. So like the numbers don't fucking make any sense. And also, look, I'm Armenian. They killed half my people. And Israel, you know, denies that genocide. But yet if you even question their genocide, quote unquote, in fucking Germany, you'll go to jail. There was a woman that just died in jail recently because she, you know, she was around during fucking World War II. She saw what happened. She said you know, they didn't fucking mass

murder these Jews. Like, I saw it. This didn't happen. They locked her in jail. And they said, you can get out of jail if you just acknowledge that this happened. And she refused to do it. She literally died in jail. This is like a fucking 90 year old woman or whatever. And, you know, you look at like the people that acknowledged this and they were like, you know,

they got confessions from these people via torture. They were like crushing their fucking nuts. They're doing all these torture things. And that, those are the people that confess to this crime. so and this started becoming more apparent with what's going on in Israel like they said people were you know fucking made into lampshades and fucking and and uh and soap and they acknowledge that that was all fucking lies and then you look at what Israel said for october 7th beheaded babies babies and ovens they come up with all this stuff that sounds really fucking horrific and it was all

bullshit mass rapes all the stuff was all fucking bullshit and then you and so you start seeing it's like these people have such a pattern of fucking lying and then you look at the The media, the media has fucking lied to us. Like, during COVID, like, how many times we get lied to? I was tired of being lied to. Well, COVID was the thing that originally made me be like, I don't know if I believe anything that the government's ever said about anything. Yeah.

Like, genuinely, because that was really close to me. And it actually affected me, my business, a ton of shit. And a lot of people. Yeah. And it was the first thing that made me just really question, like, what's going on. And the thing that I just really recognized in that. And I'm going to kind of tie back to what we're talking about currently. it seems like all these things in one way or another lead back to money and I guess the question

that I have for you is that do you think that if other people were in charge or in power it would be a different outcome because you know the the most like common things that people will like point to is like well oh Jewish people are in control of this industry or that industry or whatever it is, right? So all these things are happening because they're in, you know, they're the CEOs or the owners of the pharmaceutical industries, COVID, right? Or they're the CEOs or the owners of North Turk German, these like giant, you know, military industrial complex, things that are basically seemingly like we're just funding, you know, a country, right, you know, Ukraine, whatever. We're funding all these billions and billions of dollars,

but essentially it's going back to these, you know, American companies or companies that are selling weapons. And the question I have is like, do you think if it, if it was, wasn't the Jewish people who were, you know, CEOs and owners that if it was a black guy, a white guy, an Asian guy, someone else random, right? Do you think the outcome would be different? Because I think, I genuinely believe that it's a human thing that we're talking about, like the innate need for more for power in all regard. Like, that's what it seems that like we're up against. And I don't think that ever truly changes. And it might sound kind of like pessimistic. No, no, I totally agree with you. And I think humans are self-serving,

creatures for the most part. And so you ask a very good question. This is something that I've rattled around with a lot of times. Is it just because they have power and power corrupts and people are selfish? And so, you know, when they have these positions, you know, then they do fucked up shit. And it's like, I think that's a part of it. But I don't think that's all of it. And I think it's a, and I'm not saying it's a, I guess I would say it's a problem with Judaism. So it's a problem with their religion. When you have a religion that teaches you that you're better than other people. When you have a religion that teaches you that you can fucking steal from other people,

that you can lie to other people that aren't Jewish and you have two sets of rules, then you obviously are going to have, you know, every excuse to fucking be self-serving. You're going to have every excuse to be selfish because, look, when you were a little kid, your parents, hopefully, you know, they taught you,

you know, good morals, they taught you not to steal from people, whatever. But like, what if they didn't? What if they're like, you know, steal from anybody that's not a Jew? You know, lie to anybody that's not a Jew.

Do whatever the fuck it takes. you know, win. Like, you know, if you are raised with that and you think that that's okay, you know, like, look at these bot mitzahs. They, like, teach the kids. Like, you're better than everybody else. Like, that is a reoccurring theme in their religion. The problem with that is, you know, you can start dehumanizing people. When you dehumanize people, you can, you know, fucking, you know, you can rationalize genocide. You can rationalize stealing. You know, they're stealing land in the West Bank. They're doing all this fucked up shit. And I think it's a religious problem. See, so this is where I get, I want to ask you this question.

And it gets interesting to me because, okay, say it's not Judaism, right? Say it's Christianity, Christianity or Catholicism. It's hard for me to fully agree with that point that it's religion based because even in these other religions, people do shady, fucked up shit. 100%. But the religion doesn't teach them they're better than other people. Christianity wants other people to be Christian. Muslims want other people to be Christian or Muslim.

You know, they say, hey, we believe this is the religion of God. We want everybody to follow it. we think this is the right path, you know, they have their principles, they've got their teachings. Obviously, there's going to be flaws in religions, but Judaism doesn't try and convert anybody. They just think they're better. They just think that we are the chosen ones and basically like, you know, everybody is here to serve us. And so when you have that mentality, like, look at how they're treating the Palestinians, they're treating them like cattle. And so, like, you're going to obviously treat cattle differently than you're going to treat a human. So

when your belief system is such that you are better than everybody else, and other people are subhuman, then, you know, you're going to have exactly what's going on in Israel. I see. So going back to what I was saying, though, earlier about the idea of, like, power, control, and money, I think it gets to a point that no matter what your religious beliefs are, those people want to continue to have that power to have that control. And I don't, I honestly don't think that, and again, I don't know everything about Judaism. I don't even know everything about Christianity and Catholicism. I've always kind of, my past, I've always kind of steered away and come back, steered away and come back to just the idea of God in general.

I've kind of struggled with that my whole life. But I think it's, regardless of a religion, I think it's an innate human problem that if someone has, I mean, think about this, right? We all are taught, at least at this point, seemingly that the most important things in our life is like money, power, women, control. And it's almost like a societal thing as a whole, not just. But where's that coming from, though? The media is pushing these things, you know, like in who's control on the media.

That's my big problem is when I keep looking at the root of these problems, like transgenderism, right? I don't care if people are gay. You know, every one of my fucking assistants were gay, I would invite gay guys in parties all the time. I didn't give a fuck. I've been around gay guys. I'm not a, I'm not homophobic, none of that shit. I don't give a fuck. Yeah.

But my issue is when you start fucking mutilating children, when you start telling fucking nine-year-olds, it's okay to chop off their dick, hide it from their fucking parents, chemically castrate people. irreparably fucking changed their lives and you start pushing this on children children that are impressionable look when I was fucking 15, 16 I was a fucking shit sandwich

I would do everything that I thought was cool I wanted approval I didn't know who the fuck I was think about all the dumb shit you did when you were 15 right so much yeah you're not even allowed

to get a tattoo a tattoo can be fucking removed you chop your dick off you don't get it back like you can't smoke cigarettes you can't join the military you can't make many life altering decisions but you can change your entire

fucking sex and it's encouraged. So you've got this like structure because of the medium, because of this, you know, Jewish propaganda that like, you know, it's cool to be gay. It's cool to be trans. It's cool to be this. And look, kids want acceptance. So when you tell them that, hey, if you are trans, you're going to be in a victim category

and people are going to be nicer to you and it's getting, and that's a cool thing to do. And these other people are doing it and you're going to get more attention and you're going to be part of a special group, then you're encouraging people to do something that they might not otherwise have done. And look, I don't give it. fuck if a kid's born gay treat them fucking you know the same as everybody else it's not my problem yeah my problem is when they're making decisions at an age when their mind isn't formed that they're going to regret for the rest of their life and it's being pushed on them and why the

fucking drag queens read into children in schools like why the fuck are kids at nine years old reading about homosexual acts like what the fuck you know like i mean that's something i directly i never really understood because at that previous to even that moment in our fucking history, which is crazy, is that we never even talk to kids, heterosexual or gay, about any of that stuff regardless. Then all of a sudden it was like, now we have to, but I think it also draws back to money because at that same point, like, I'm not denying the fact that obviously kids want acceptance and kids want to feel like, oh, I'm, I'm good. And, you know, if I'm part of, like, because that kid's getting attention because the teacher is having this conversation about whatever. I want to

be a part of this conversation. I want to be good. I get it. But it's weird because there is that point that draws back to money as far as like the doctors or the people would get this like gender affirming care. And then it's like an insurance company bid there. And it's like it all comes back to like why is it being pushed in some way? Well, I mean, the first transgender clinic was opened by Magnus Hirschfeld. You know, that was a Jewish gay doctor in Germany, 1919. First transgender surgery. 1919. Yeah. That was the first transgender clinic, first transgender surgery. So this came from Jewish people in their Talmud, there is eight different genders. There's not eight genders in the fucking

Christian. Not eight genders in the fucking Quran. So this is a Jewish thing. And here's what happens is the Jewish media pushes the left their talking points. They don't one day just like all say the exact same fucking thing. They're given these talking points. They're given these talking points by the media. And they're given these crazy talking points. And now everybody looks at it like, oh, the left is just crazy. It's the crazy Democrats. But where is this message coming from? And that's what people don't see is they don't see that these messages are coming from the fucking Jewish media,

the Jewish community, and now it's a left versus the right, and the right looks at it like, oh, the problem is the left. The problem is these Democrats. And the left looks at it like, oh, the problem is white supremacy because that's what CNN says.

And the problem is Muslims. And so you get distracted from who's actually causing the real fucking problems, and that is the Jewish fucking religion and Jewish supremacy. That is where the problems are coming from, but it's distracted because it's like, oh, it's just the leftist. And this person is not Jewish. And he says that. So it's not a Jewish thing.

You know what I mean? It gets confused. But when you look at the root of where it's coming from, it is coming from their religion. It is coming from their media. It is coming from, you know, Black Rock is what pushed DEI. Black Rock's all fucking Jewish. All the top execs are all Jewish. They want diversity so bad.

Why don't they have fucking diversity? I don't see any fucking black women, you know, women, you know, Jewish women with fucking black guys. I don't see fucking black guys wedding fucking Jewish women. Like you don't see the stuff that they push. Like in Israel, there's no fucking, you know, open borders. There's no fucking mixing. There's no, you know, like, oh, let's, you know, bring in the fucking black Christian guy. No, there's none of that. You would get ostracized. They keep their fucking people all Jewish. And yet forever. So it's like, you know, rules for me and not for thee, right? You know, it's just like, it's very different. So like what they're telling people, what they're pushing is not

what they're doing in their own country like porn is illegal in fucking israel but yet all the fucking porn sites are all owned by jewish people only fans porn hub all that stuff all jewish owned so it's like you look at who owns it you look at who's pushing it and then you look at if they do it in their own country and it's completely fucking opposite so you think if if other people own those industries and own those businesses that it would just be different well no i'm not saying i'm not even saying i'm just saying that like they do things for themselves that are different from what they push in other people like they push d i right but not for themselves right they push open borders but not for israel they push gender mix you know or race mixing but not for

them you know what i'm saying it's like if you're a fucking hypocrite i have issue with it look if they just said you know like fuck it you know all these things are what we believe when we do them if they practice what they preach that would be one thing but they don't and that's where I have issue. I have issue with the hypocrisy. I have issue with what they're pushing on us versus what they're doing themselves. And they're two very different things.

Yeah. So you have this conversation with, I just seen a clip. You had this conversation with peers. Did you have this whole conversation with him? Because I didn't watch the whole entire interview. No, he cut it off pretty quick. So, I mean, look, I, you know,

my position is very controversial. I mean, because these people have so much power. And when you say things like this, they fucking ruin you. And I actually thought, like, when I took this position, I was like, I'm fucked, but this is the right thing to do. And that's where I was at in my life is like, I just want to do the right thing.

I'd been given more than, you know, any person probably ever deserves. Like I got everything I ever wanted. Like I fucked all the hot girls. I, you know, had every fucking car, you know, got my own fucking plane, got all the fucking, literally everything that I ever wanted beyond I got. So I just got to a point where the pleasure seeking didn't really matter that much to me. Like I didn't get a lot of attention as a kid and then I'd become the most famous guy in the fucking world without a talent. You don't know what I mean? Like I got everything in such excess that, um, but I realized

that like those things weren't really what made me happy. Yeah. I was happier hanging with my boys like doing shit that I like to do. And so I just, I don't know, man. I just felt like this was a test. It was like, you know, the real test in life is when you feel like this is the right thing to do and it's fucking tough. Like it's easy to do the right thing when it's convenient. You know, like, it's real easy to like, you know, like, oh, the hot chick wants to fuck me. I'm going to go bang her like you know like oh you know there's fucking a big brick of cash in the table and nobody cares if I grab it I'm gonna grab it but it's like you know when you see somebody starving and you know it's your last fucking meal and now you got to give your food to this fucking guy or you might

not eat to do this that's when the real test comes you know when you have to make a big sacrifice to do what you believe in that's when it's actually a test like you got hundreds of millions of dollars your hands fucking bums hundred dollars it's like it's cool you're doing that that's not any fucking big sacrifice it's not going to change your life yeah you know so So, like, I think, like I said, the test comes when you feel like this is the right thing to do, and it's very fucking inconvenient to do it. Have you ever had any other moments in life where it was that you felt this way? Um, I mean, it's kind of like a bully thing. Like if you see a bully, you know, picking on somebody, it's a lot easier to just like keep walking and not get involved, you know, and that's kind of what I felt like with this.

I guess the one thing that when I, when I, you know, I watch the content or I see the clips, I don't know if you ever said this specifically or not. because I see the clips and he's asking you like, well, what do you think Jewish people think about what you're saying? And you're pretty much like, oh, I don't care because these things happen, et cetera.

It is a, it does kind of suck though, because do you think all Jewish people? Absolutely not. No. You don't understand. Like I came from a place where like, I had more Jewish friends than non-Jewish friends

because I'm a fucking rich guy. Hang out of rich guys. Rich guys happen to be fucking Jewish. You know what I mean? Like so I didn't, this was, this whole. concept was so fucking crazy. I didn't even consider it. I remember I brought a guy to

Kanye, you know, a Jewish friend of mine to meet Kanye because, you know, after he popped off, he lost his fucking sneaker deal or whatever. And I was like, oh, well, you know, like, let's do a sneaker deal. Like, I got a big audience. Like, you know, people like your shit. Like, you know, we can make a lot of money. I think it's good. Like, you know, it'd be good fuck you to Adidas. And I brought this Jewish. I didn't really think there was a possibility that he didn't like Jewish people. Like that didn't, you know, like even enter the radar. And I'm, you know, bring this guy. And he had like, you know, and Kanye made some comments. And I And my friend at the end was like, man, like, he really doesn't like Jewish people.

I'm just like, yeah, I guess not. It was really weird. You know what I mean? Like it was like such a crazy thing. So I went from there to being like, these fucking people are causing 90% of the world's problems. And they're less than a fifth of a fucking percent of the population. What the fuck's going on? You know, and obviously this is uncomfortable.

Like I had a lot of Jewish friends. Like I'm, you know, I like money. You know, I don't like getting fucked over. And the moment I started. had taken the stance you know i got death threats i got you know i got blackmail i got this i got that you know there's a lot of shit um but that just made me more convinced that i was doing the right thing you know yeah i mean that's how i felt during covid obviously a lot i don't want to say less important um but it just the whole thing just seems to i mean in lack of better words it

fucking sucks because it's just like, I keep going back to the idea that if it was another group of people, would it not just end up being the same? I really, I mean, that's it. That's a good point. And like I said, I've thought about that. But I truly think that it is a religious problem of supremacy. Supremacy is not good. Like, you know, and I said this on peers. And I was like, you know, I don't believe in white supremacy. I don't believe in Jewish supremacy. It's like you sound like a Nazi. And I'm like, well, I was raised that the whole premise of not of being a Nazi was white supremacy. I don't think that's true now, but like, it's just funny that he said that right after I said, I don't believe in supremacy. Um, and yeah, I think that's what it comes

down to, man. I think like there's no other religion that teaches you that you're just better than everybody else. And it's okay to fuck over anybody that's not part of your religion. Like, I think the religion is like satanic. Like, and if you look at what they actually fucking tell you in there, like things that they teach in the Talmud are literally like completely fucked up. Like, it is okay to have sex with a three-year-old because it's like poking a finger in the eye and the eye will water, but it's fine. It's just like the hymen will be restored and it doesn't count. Did you literally, because I've not looked at this kind of shit. No, word for word translation. Like I've got full like breakdowns. I'm not like talking out of my ass. This is not something like internet

meme. I've seen like the exact fucking text and then the exact translation. I've done the translations on, you know, AI on translators and all this stuff. Like I've fact check this 100%. And this is like absolutely it's it's so fucked up that you wouldn't believe it unless you actually saw it. They believe that Jesus is burning in hell and human shit, like, Virgin Mary's a whore. Like, there's, like, atrocious shit in there. And, you know, nobody knew about it. Like, it's, it literally says in the Talmud, like, if a Gentile reads this, you should kill him. And that's because they don't want people to know what the fuck it said. And until very recently, it wasn't really translated. Nobody knew and nobody really talked about.

But now that it's been translated, this shit's like starting to be uncovering. It's like, wow, there was a guy that did a thread and he posted like 20 or 21 of the most fucked up things in the town mood and then real world examples of how these are being implemented today you know and like news are talking about Twitter yeah yeah okay yeah and now is really eye opening I was like wow like I thought like I thought this was bad but it's actually even worse than I thought and that's what you find when you start like going down this fucking rabbit hole is like damn it's even worse than I thought it's even worse than I thought do you think it changes in what way do you think there's that's what I keep going back to it but

Do you think there's an actual shift where it's like, okay, let's not take it to these, these extents? Because, you know, like the wars, all these little proxy wars, all the things that America's involved in as a whole is like, it seems to be just about dollars. And I don't think that ever really changes. Well, I think they have so much power now that they got arrogant. Like if they were smart, they would have just, you know, when they saw how much negative pushback there was, you know, with this, this, you know, genocide they're committing.

It would just stop and been like, okay, you know, this is enough. This is an appropriate response. But they didn't. They just like kept fucking going. And they kept forcing our U.S. politicians to fund this and to support this and to fund it and to support it. And I think that's what really opened people's eyes. Look, like I said, when I started this, I didn't think it was winnable.

I really didn't think it was winnable. In what sense, winnable? Like, I didn't think that people could wake up. Like, I didn't think people could figure this out. Like, I didn't think there's anything you could do about it. I thought they had too much power. I didn't think it was something that could be fixed. And then when I did the peers interview and I saw the comments and they were like literally a hundred percent saying like he's right. He's right. He's right. I was like, holy shit. Like people actually fucking know. They just can't say it. And this was on like his channel. This wasn't like some echo chamber in Twitter. This was like his channel. And I was just like, fuck. Like everybody knows and nobody wants to say it. I was just like I couldn't fucking believe it. I was like, wow. Like this is I think this is winnable because the uninformed majority.

will always lose the informed minority. And right now, they're the informed minority. Like, if you have a small group and they're all working together, they're going to beat the uncoordinated big group. And right now, through the media, you look at what they've done is they have fucking like pitted everybody against each other. It's black against white. It's fucking Democrat against Republican.

Right. It's fucking, you know what I mean? It's a man against women. It's attack on masculinity. You know what I mean? It's like everybody's fighting with each other. And it's a lot easier to rule people when they're fucking at office. And so I think this is like the one unifying issue that actually could, you know, bring people

together. Be like, man, like the people that are fucking us over is a small group. Do you, and I ask you this is a little bit. This is not an attack of you at all. But is there any part of you that did it because you knew that it would get people behind you? No. Dude, when I did this like a year ago and please ask any question you want, don't worry about offending me. Dude, we've done each other for a long time.

I know you're not trying to do click base shit. I don't care. dude when I started this like a year ago this was like a fucking super unpopular opinion yeah like the tide has turned a lot and I truly believe that I had some impact on that but I'm telling you like a year ago being anti-Israel was like nobody even fucking I mean obviously like there was you know people that were protesting whatever but like no like successful people other than Kanye and you saw what happened to him like nobody said anything and if they did they got fucking destroyed I thought this was going to be like the end of me I really did and you

just didn't care. It just felt like it was the right thing, man. Like, I just, I don't know. Yeah, I kind of just, I just, um, I just said, fuck it, you know? Like, I'm just, I, because there was like months before that when I wanted to say something, but I was scared to say it. Yeah. It was my brother's like, they're going to fucking kill you.

Like, you know, all these people are like, you know, they're going to fucking throw you in jail. There's going to be some smear campaign. Like, look at what they did. You know, Kate was, you know, a little vocal about it. You know what I mean? Like anybody that's kind of like against their narrative gets, fucked up.

And I just yeah, no, I thought it was gonna be super unpopular to start this. I thought this was gonna be like my absolute fucking demise. And it still might be,

but like it's very different now than where it was a year. I was fucking shocked when I read Pierce fucking comments. Like completely fucking shocked. Because Twitter is like one thing, you know, you get put in there with other people

that, you know, take similar stuff. It's like the same. Exactly. So it can be an echo chamber. So you can get like a little jaded there. But this. was this was YouTube on his channel you know these are his people yeah i didn't shout it out

so it wasn't my people yeah you know do you think you're getting more uh invites to uh those types of interviews no well i mean i've always been able to do stuff you know like everybody's kind of like open the door like because if you're if you're not very well known and you say this stuff they get mad at the platform for giving you a voice but like if you're well known then it's great you know any podcaster can have Kanye on and they're not going to be like oh why did you have Kanye on you know they're just getting mad at Kanye for what he says so if you get big enough then like you're the fucking scapegoat so they can bring you on they can get the benefit of the use and you get all the negative for you know what you say but um yeah that wasn't my plan by the way no no dude I know we've been planning on doing this for fucking yeah for a while I was like fuck I really want to have this conference it just happened to be like this was the moment that we were able to do it yeah um okay So besides this stuff in your life right now, what is the most important thing to you? Well, I would say this is this is top of the list. You know, after the, after the book, I think that was like a two year therapy session.

Like you look at all the things that made you happy, all the things that you're, you know, shamed of, all the things that you did. Like just, you know, you're for, look, when you wake up in the morning, you're thinking about your fucking workout, you know, I'm like, oh, what am I going to have for breakfast? You know, should I take me a D ball now or should I take it, you know, before the gym. Like, you know, you've like all these things that you think about. like in the moment. We're going to get that too. Yeah. Like, who am I going to fuck later? You know, like it's just these are like the things that most people think about when they wake up is like, you know, what, you know, what I want

to do later on? You know, should I get high now? Should I wait? Like, you know, just you don't think about like what you did when you're fucking 14. You know what I mean? Like so when I had to write that book, I looked at like just all the stuff, you know, things that you're not proud of, things that you are proud of, things that you are proud of, things that you thought were going to make you happy that didn't. And I just, you know, I just came to a place where I was like, fuck, man, I'm going to spend more time with my friends. I'm going to do more shit that I like to do and focus a little bit more business like I'm not going to go down the hedonistic pleasure seeking roads anymore like I'm going to try and like cut and it wasn't

just like a complete cut of all that stuff it was like a slow like weaning off but yeah um I just I had a bad sex addiction like is that what you're most not proud of no no because that was like that came from a place of insecurity too you know like I didn't get late a lot in high school and when I was in the military I didn't get a lot of pussy and I was you know look I was like finally popular my senior year in high school and I last like two days and I was in jail. So like I was never really like pot. I never got my like moment, you know.

And I think when you go through a, you know, kind of like a, you know, transitive time in your life or a, you know, time when it's, you know, impressionable, whatever. And you feel like you have a lack of something. I think you carry that for a while. And I think when I was in high school and junior high and whatever, I had a perceived lack that like women were not attracted to me or that I couldn't get the girl that I wanted or I didn't have as many options

that you know, whatever, right? And I didn't get a lot of attention. You know, my dad didn't really give me a lot. So the things that I wanted, I then went and like achieved in massive excess later in life and only doing that and I realized like, you know, these aren't really, I mean, they were fun. Don't get me wrong.

Like it was fun to buck hot girls. It was fun to, you know, become famous and, you know, have all that shit happen. But it wasn't like long term. was like fleeting. You know, it's like, you know, pleasure is kind of like an immediate spike. It's kind of like doing it, you know, doing Coke. Like you're going to feel good or, you know, it's going to hit you, but then there's

going to be that come down. Whereas, you know, when you help people out and you do things that you believe in and, you know, you get happiness from a good place, good relationships, hanging out with your buddies, doing things you like to do, that doesn't have the crash and it can last longer. So I just decided that I was going to focus more on that. What would you, what would you say was your biggest insecurity when you were younger? probably that girls didn't like me or that I wasn't super popular or I wasn't strong enough it's funny how then it became like the thing that you were known for well but I think that's

you know but it's it's just funny man and I thought about that a lot you know um like cowboy seroni like he was he was scared every before every one of his fights even up until the end he was always like one of the most scared but that motherfucker conquered his fears like because he was scared he specifically like ran towards the fire you know and like he would force himself to do things and I found like I you know not to his extent I didn't go yeah I can get in a cage and fight every you know in the fucking world but like I would force myself to do things that I didn't want to do and I would force myself to face fears and I think there's people that become great at things that they were terrible at um because they really like I mean look to beat eight billion

people or to be one of the best in the fucking world in anything like you have to be almost like autistically ADD dedicated to that thing you know what I mean like a little crazy too yeah right like you just have there has to be some insecurity driving that because otherwise you're just gonna you're gonna focus on other shit you're gonna be you know less one dimensional but um yeah I think you look at all like the real villain stories the hero stories or whatever and it's like a lot of it was like driven by like some traumatic moment that yeah something like my life like growing up without a father like the the need for acceptance or being good enough was the thing that drove me my whole life yeah but then it it affected so many other aspects

in my life like having a solid relationship and like being able to keep a good relationship because it's something i've always kind of wanted i think because i didn't really see that like it was it was something that you know obviously my mom lost the love of her life and she remarried but i always kind of struggled with like a wanting to recreate what i didn't have and it was weird though because i i still haven't done that to this point right like i don't have a white I don't have a kid, which kind of is sad as fuck to me in a lot of ways. But I guess through my entire, like, young adulthood, it was me trying to prove to myself that I was good enough in a lot, and like more of the physical way, right?

As we can see. And it's weird how that insecurity, though, if you don't give yourself time to develop the other aspects of your life, like good interpersonal relationships, friendships, like loving relationships, it's like you can't create that. Like, I guess I'm curious for you because you obviously don't have kids. you don't are not married um was that something you ever wanted well i got to talk about those differently because or separately because i think the kid thing is one thing that um i may or may not regret the marriage thing though i feel like marriage is um man i have yet to hear like a strong

argument for marriage unless it's like one of those things but like it's because of the kid and the woman like really really wants it but i think a lot of people get married to get married because you know society tells you to do that you're supposed to yeah yeah yeah Yeah, and it just seems like such a trap, man. Like, it seems like anytime you're, like, forced to be with somebody or you can't leave on your own accord, I think it hurts the relationship. So are there good marriages? Like, yeah, of course there are.

But I think that getting married actually hurts your chances of, like, keeping a good relationship in the long run. So I'm not a big fan of marriage. I do believe in monogamy. And I think that, you know, having kids would be great. But I think the first thing is, you know, finding the right partner is saddle them for at least 18 years, you know, when you have a kid, it's kind of a big decision. So I think it's something people rush into. And I also think it's something that you

should do when you're ready for it. You know, like I think people have kids too soon. And I think if you haven't done all the things that you want to do, you won't be as good of a dad. You won't be able to teach your son as much. It'll be more distracted. If I had a kid now, I mean, now it would be my sole focus, you know, like I've done everything I want to do and now I get to relive my life through him. Is that something you want to do? Not particularly just because I feel like my life is so fucking unstable right now. Like I feel like I get fucking sniped by a Mossad agent fucking tomorrow. You know, and there's a lot of like crazy.

Is that a real fear? I think it's a real possibility. I'm not afraid of it. I mean, this wasn't just like something I went off half cocked and did. I came to terms of the fact that this might be like my complete fucking downfall. and that was a risk I was willing to take. But I think it's a real thing. I mean,

look at all the people that have gone against Israel, all the people that are in position to power that questioned Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Nixon, JFK, Gaddafi, like literally, like kill all, you know what I mean? Like almost all, or they completely ruined them or, you know, removed them to power.

Like, it was not a small thing. You know, Malcolm X was talking out about, you know, fucking Israel Jews, you know, like, you know, Michael Jackson was, like you look at the fate of all these people, people and it's like it has to be a real concern. And you know they're willing to kill people. I mean, they're killing fucking, you know, tens of thousands of children, you know, and, uh, and, and don't know without remorse too. Like they're running around like, you know, mocking these people

that they're killing. They're putting on like the women's clothes that they fucking kill. They're like, you know, posing over a fucking baby that died from starvation with a fucking donut and smiling. Like, it's like really sadistic. And I wouldn't say that that's just a Jewish thing because I think what we did during Iraq and you know the golf war was really fucked up and we killed like 500,000 fucking civilians over there and I saw I saw the military pact mentality because you almost have to dehumanize the people that you're fighting against in order to mentally rationalize that and I think that's why a lot of these people get PTSD you see him talking about that like I think Rob O'Neal talked about that he was the guy that killed you know Sama bin Laden right you talk about killing a guy

one time and he's like after I killed this guy I thought you know like what if I knew this guy outside this like would we like each other you know would we go have a cup of coffee like you know this guy was literally like you know the only reason i killed him and the only reason he tried to kill me is because i kicked the door in of his fucking home and i went into it with a fucking gun like what would i do if somebody did that to me and you start putting yourself in the position and if you don't dehumanize those people that you're killing then it's really hard to process that because it's not like we're meeting in a fucking battlefield and fighting it out like no we're fucking showing up at their fucking home. They have kids

there. We're fucking bombing their relatives. You know what I mean? And I don't think Americans really think about it like that, you know, because nobody's ever come here to fuck with us, you know? And they don't think about like, you know, Palestine is kind of like if fucking Mexico were to like come in and fucking invade Texas. And then we were

to create a resistance organization to try and get our fucking state back. Like, those people would be our fucking heroes. It wouldn't be terrorists. It would be taken back our own fucking land. And that's what Hamas is trying to do in Palestine. They're trying to take back their own fucking land. They're fighting back, you know, to get out of apartheid. They're fighting back because their brothers and sisters have been fucking killed

and they're cutting off water and they're cutting off electricity and they're fucking starving these people and committing war crimes. I mean, like, there's so many examples. And, you know, just to talk about like some U.S. ones, like there was a fucking U.S. citizen that was over there protesting. They're literally stealing people's homes in the West Bank. And this is like completely like on the other side where Hamas is nothing to do with Hamas.

This is like absolutely unequipped war crimes. They're not allowed to fucking steal land. they're like bulldozing people's houses they're setting their fucking trees on fire they're doing fucked up shit there was a US protest of this woman that was over there and she's like no like

you're not gonna like destroy this family's home just so that you can fucking steal their land and she stood there and the Israeli like guy laughed like drove over her in a bulldozer and fucking killed her like she was like bulldozers go pretty fucking slow

so it wasn't like a quick death you know this is like this is not like some conspiracy there you can Google this whatever you know Hindrajab this is like a six year old girl she's in a car with her parents and her nine-year-old sister.

And, you know, their parents aren't fucking terrorists. They're a fucking husband and a wife and the two little girls. And this tank starts open firing on them, you know, and the sister, the nine-year-old calls up and they're like, they're shooting, you know, my parents are dead. They're just crying. The little sister's crying. She's like, please, please send help.

They send out two paramedics that they fucking tank shoots the fucking paramedics, literally kills the paramedics trying to fucking save them. Then shoots the nine-year-old. Then the six-year-old gets on the phone. She's like, I'm the only one, you know, in the car. Everybody's dead. Like, please help me, please help me, please help me. She's on the,

for like, you know, 20 minutes, and then they finally fucking kill her too. And this is a fucking six-year-old girl. They shot 370 fucking rounds into this civilian car from a tank. And we're like, you know, and when we demanded that they look into this, they're like, oh, you know, we investigated and we ruled that there was no fault. Like, they're investigating themselves. So it's like you look at all these things are doing. Just recently there was a U.S. citizen that was over there protesting and the Israeli sniper shot her in the head. She was completely unarmed. And Randy Fine, a fucking, you know, set. or congressman or whatever in the state of Florida, like, tweeted out, like, you know, like,

kill them, you know what I mean? Like throw rocks, you know, like, you know, fuck around, find out, you know, like basically like celebrating the death of a U.S. citizen by some fucking Israeli sniper because he's a fucking Jew and he's Jew first, America fucking last. And that's how all these fucking Jews are. That's the problem is they have more allegiance to Israel than they do America. Every single fucking one of them. And they're all dual citizens of Israel and fucking America.

And they're like representing us in Congress. They're in our fucking government. and they're putting their country ahead of our own fucking country and that's fucking treason. And that's where we're at. Fuck. You know, it's a fucking,

I mean, dude, I'm just telling you, like, I'm not Muslim. Like, I have no reason, you know, I have no,

like, hidden agenda here. Like, these are just the fucking facts that I'm uncovering. And when you find the shit out, like, you can draw no other conclusion

other than like America's fucking occupied. Our country is being controlled by Israel to our own detriment. And it's, you know, it's a fucked up situation. If we don't do something about it, I think it's going to be the undoing

of our fucking country the world. I mean, they're trying to drag us into World War III. We're a really fucked up position right now, and I won't keep going down this fucking tangent. But Israel's in a spot right now where if Netanyahu stops the war, he goes to jail. So we've got this fucking genocidal maniac that absolutely has to continue this genocide. And our country is just going to fucking go along with it no matter what. I mean, Trump is going to fucking back him, Biden backed him. And eventually, you know, if he keeps fucking invading Lebanon, fucking with Iran, like eventually he's going to leave to World War III. Russia's supplying Iran with weapons.

You don't what I mean? Like this is escalating. It's only going to go in one direction. Like it's not just going to be left unchecked forever. Like if people have like, you know, thresholds where it's just like, okay, motherfucker, like enough is enough. I reach it and I'm not even fucking over there. Yeah.

I reach it in my fucking bathroom. You know what I mean? Like when they fucking bombed Rafa, that was my fucking threshold. It's like, you know what? I don't even give a fuck. Like if they fucking kill me, they kill me. But I'm going to fucking say something about this. So if I got there as an American citizen with absolutely no fucking dog in this fight whatsoever.

Like Iran's going to get there. Russia's going to get, like, people are just going to be tired of this shit. Yeah. You know, eventually, like, you have to. But recently, I think China, China, like the Xi, I guess came out and said that America's, like, the biggest warmonger. I mean, that's on equivocal. That's not even, I mean, like, if you look at, like, the past, like, whatever, 50, 70 years, like, we've been in more fucking wars and conflicts than, like, almost the entire rest of the fucking world put together. But that's the thing I keep talking about is, like, it's built into money.

It's built into the economy. Well, exactly. It's money. like almost every single person we've gone to war with just happens to be a fucking enemy of Israel every fucking nine Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, it's like all these fucking places. All of it fucking benefits Israel. Yeah. So I mean like even in my head though, I take it back to like before America was founded, right? We a bunch of people from fucking Europe came in with like, we're taking this. We have more guns. We have more firepower. It's like,

Now, that's a very legitimate fucking point. That is a very legitimate point. What we did to the Indians was definitely fucked up. And so that is, that is a one good rebut to the whole thing of like, oh, well, you know, we took over this land or whatever. But like, no, and just to be, let me finish. Because I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to rebut it and say like it makes it okay. No, no, but that's like the one legitimate argument as to like, you know, that Israel should

even exist is like, okay, well, look at what we did with the fucking America, which I agree. What we did with America was fucked up. I think what we, what Israel did. was way more fucked up. And if you look at like the interviews of these people, like what happened during Nakpa and like the fact that they like put these people in fucking cages, they like raped, you know, underage girls, they just like fucking shop you. I mean, there's this one legitimate fucking account of this guy was like, the man next to me, they fucking put a gun to his head and they say, if you don't throw your fucking baby in that fucking

bakery oven, we're going to fucking kill you. The guy wouldn't do it. They fucking hit him in the head, threw his fucking baby in the fucking oven, made him watch the fucking baby burn a lot. and then threw him in the oven after they'd watch. So all the things that they've accused of the Palestinians of, these motherfuckers have all done themselves. Like, that's how they come up with this shit. They accuse everybody else of doing the things that they do. That's what's crazy.

And when you see the parallels of World War II, they did the same fucking thing there. It's like, you know, like denying the genocide is the worst possible thing in the fucking world. But yet they deny the Armenian genocide. I'm Armenian. They killed half my fucking people in the Armenian genocide. Like half my people died.

and Israel denies it because they want to do business with fucking Turkey and they want to take over the fucking banking. So, you know, and then they lobbied the U.S. to deny the genocide, which is like whatever. They wanted to deny the genocide. I'm not going to whine about it. By the same token, you can't then whine when other people deny your supposed fucking genocide. Like, you can question anything in history other than that. And you literally get thrown in jail for it. That should make you want to question it more than anything. I hear you. I guess my biggest thing is just, like I said, taking it back to the way America was founded is and even prior to that right like even because I try to have these conversations I try to just understand and even prior to the

America's being founded right you have different tribes whether they're you know America South America Central America and you know wherever they are Africa tribes different places and people what I'm getting at is people have always been at odds with each other for what they could have from someone else like because it was like at one point you got cows I have fish let's trade them and then at one point someone goes i think i could take them and just take all their shit i'm going to take all their fish we already got the cows let's just do that and what i'm saying is like you're a hundred percent right but i will give you a counter to that and that is that what is going on in in gaza right now you have one side that has literally the best military grade weapons in the

entire fucking world in air force artillery i'm not even debating that by the way and these are like unarmed civilians so that would be the difference but i'm not debating i hear you saying i'm just saying regardless of what's happening now, I'm not saying any of this is good or okay. Yeah. But I'm saying the human nature in it all is what the innate problem, whether it's Judaism or Christianity or tribalism or some God that they believe and they set up a totem and they pray to it. It's people because this, this is kind of shit. And I'm not saying it's okay. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying it should happen. I absolutely believe 100% it should stop. Right. But I am talking about the biggest picture, the overarching theme of like humans are

seemingly innately greedy and just want control and want power well before we ever had these conversations well before we ever existed well for Israel ever existed germany didn't matter I just think people are they get to the point where they go I think I could take that and then they just do it and it's been a thing in human nature no matter what and that's no 100% and it's just now we're playing with like bigger guns and more more information but that you know that's why we you know develop NATO you know there's been like I mean recent you know times you know we're supposed to be, you know, less like, oh, well, I can take this so I just will, right? Because like, if we were to operate under that mentality, we'd just take fucking, you know, whatever, we'd take Mexico,

would take South America. We'd just take over the whole fucking world because militarily, like, we can do it. So I think we kind of like came to terms with, you know, that you shouldn't just take things because you can. And I think you're right. You know, historically, that's kind of how it's been. It's like, you know, people just took what they could take. Even fucking medieval time. It's just like, yo, I'm stronger. I'm going to do it. That's mine. I want it. I want your bitches I want your family whatever 100% and they did it and that was that was you know how it used to go down so that's why I'm like does it no matter if it's Judaism and Jewish people or does it ever really change that's a great question but I like I said I think that the the crux of this comes when

you have this innate belief that you're better than other people right so it's like you know do the Vikings have that you know maybe they did you know like have other people have other people had that throughout time maybe maybe not you know like but I know that Christianity doesn't that and I know that you know like these other religions don't tell you that you're better than everybody else and that it's okay to fuck over people that aren't of your religion it's okay to steal from you know what I'm saying so it's like yeah that's kind of happening though it still happens like someone in in that scenario thousands of years ago was like I'm I'm bigger than that guy and those group of people and we're you know me my boys are all bigger so not maybe like I'm

better than him but like I can take what he has and it just happened regardless so that's why I'm just saying it's a, I just believe, and I'm not okaying it. I just think, I believe it's a human thing that we're fucked. I just, it's cynical. I know it's cynical. No, no, listen, I'm cynical too. I think it like I said, it's a good point. I just think that if you look at, you know, the problems and it's, you know, it's not just the Palestine thing. Like, you know, Palestine is, is one thing. But to me, it's like what the, I feel like they're attacking white people. I feel like they're attacking Christianity. I feel like they're attacking masculinity. So it's like they're attacking me and now I'm responding I'm not attacking them I'm not like fuck the

jews I'm not like you know let's get rid of the Jews you know they have too much money it's it's not that they chose to attack and to pit us against each other they attack masculinity which is just generally bad for culture and you see it in the dating that's why like I like I fucking did that like dating course for guys because I felt like nobody was giving them good information every significant right yeah like it was just like a passion project that I just did because I felt like, dude, I looked out of the stats. There's like half the guys haven't had sex in the last year. Yeah, that's crazy.

I'm just like, what the fuck, man? But I think that stems from this attack on masculinity. When you attack masculinity, you attack, like, you know, what women are attracted to. Women are attracted to a masculine man. Like, that's just a fucking fact. They can, they can deny it. They can say it's not true. But you look at the guys that are getting pussy.

They're fucking mostly masculine men. Or they have, like, some, you know, traits that are famous or, you know, super rich or whatever, but like primarily the guys throughout the fucking history of time that have been attracted to women have been masculine men, right? So when you attack masculinity, when you push this like transgender, homosexuality stuff, you're fucking up with like, you know, nature's replication cycle, you know, because obviously like if everybody's gay, you know, we go extinct. Everybody becomes trans. We go extinct, right? So it's like these things, you know, it's fine. And I don't care if there's gay guys here or there. But like, why are they trying to.

make everybody gay. Why did I just turn on fucking Deadpool versus Wolverine? Where the fuck that is? And have to see Deadpool using pronouns and he's fucking gay now and like sticking to sort up some dudes ass and laughing about how he's, you know what the fuck is going on? Dude, why is everything gay? Like, I don't care if it's 10% because that's like naturally occurring. I don't give a fuck, man. I'm all about like, you know, being fucking accepting of people. But there's a difference between being accepting and forcing shit down your mother. fucking throat and now I'm getting that shit forced down my mother fucking throat and you're pushing on kids and fucking Disney's pushing this it's just nonsense like what is going on you know

it's just like that's when I'm just like what the fuck and dude like racism was almost gone in 2019 I didn't even think about somebody's race yeah the fuck if you're black or you're white or this or that when I was in the military everybody fucking used racial slurs nobody really gave a fuck wasn't like if somebody said fucking you know the end word it had to result the fight, like people didn't have a fucking stroke. They wouldn't survive in the cobbodies. Yeah, you insult people's mothers. It was like, maybe that was a fighting.

But it was just like, dude, like, you actually weren't a fucking bitch and like a word couldn't trigger you to the point where you lose all physical control of your body, right? Like, yeah. But now we're at a place where like everybody's so fucking offended. Everybody's playing a victim. And look, like, you go to Tony Robbins shit, man. The first fucking thing they teach you is do not be a victim. Like, fucking ownership, self-ownership.

The problem of the victim mentality. It's like, okay, somebody else is to blame for my failures. And when you operate from that mentality, it's the worst thing in the world. It's the worst thing in the world. But that's what they fucking push on everybody's. Now, like, if you're not in a victim category, you don't have a voice. So now, like, obviously kids want to have a voice. They want attention.

They want to be heard. So they're going to naturally gravitate to being fucking gay or trans because now they have a voice. Now people care about them. Now people have to pay attention to them. Now people can't be mean to them. So they're creating a situation where they're pushing everything. everybody in these fucking directions a lot of it like is unnatural right like somebody's born gay cool man

i don't give a fuck like fine you know i'll hang out with you can cut in my fucking parties you're gonna fuck my chicks great we're good you know yeah we're good like don't push that on a fucking eight year old yeah i get it don't like tell him it's better if he's gay do you think do you think that kind of shit changes i feel like people are really starting to like notice this shit oh for sure for sure they were they all notice it but they were scared to something saying anything. And now we're getting to a point where like, and that's why I felt like taking my fucking stand was important. It's because, look, if I'm doing a fucking 150 down the highway, people are going to feel a lot more comfortable doing 75, you know, doing 80, right? So it's like,

I feel like somebody has to move the Overton windows, what's okay to say. And that's why, you know, like when Tate gets on and he says nigger and this and that, it's like, you know, a lot of people get offended. And I'm not like, I, you know, I'm, I'm like on the fence of that because like a part of it, I get what he's doing. But honestly, like the crazy thing is I think the net effect of that is positive because it makes it so it's like okay this is not such a big deal you know like this is not such a crazy thing you don't have to be so fucking offended words aren't that important yeah I saw that clip where he said that um sitting down he was kind of addressing why he says some of the stuff he says a part of me though still feels

like there's still the shock factor in relationship to it that just drives also engagement in the algorithm so I'm just also like I hear it and I can believe it and I met Tain and I like Tain and I think he's a cool guy. I still think, though, they're aware and they're very smart people, very smart businessmen, very smart with the internet. Obviously,

the guy conquered it. And I think there's still a part of it that is, in my feeling, a little bit still disgenuine of like, I know that this is getting reactions, so I'm going to do it more.

Oh, that's 100% apart of it. That's unequipped. I'm not saying that, you know, this is like totally altruistic or whatever. Like, I'm just saying that I think there is a movement

going in that direction that I think is positive. I think the positive of what he did when he did that was shift the Overton window of like what is offensive because prior to him like nobody would say that word and obviously like you shouldn't go around saying things are going to be offensive to people but the point is like a word shouldn't be so crazy that it like basically like turns off somebody's fucking rational brain to where they have to go do something you know like people called me cracker all the time when I was growing up you know like they had a thing in

my fucking school where like black kids have beat up the white kids called Cracker Day you know and I grew up I was a little fucking racist a little fucking mad at these black motherfuckers for beating up fucking white kids and shit like I got over it and the military is like you know fucking they'd say racist shit would say race of shit and at the end of the day we all had each other's fucking back and it wasn't that big a deal you know and that's like the healthy fucking balance well like you can say whatever the fuck you want people aren't gonna fucking lose their fucking minds it's not like you know you fucking hate all black people you know what I mean like it's just a fucking normal society right the people insult your mother

and that's that could be off limits and it's like maybe that's fighting words but I'm just saying like this whole idea of like oh you know these people you know need to be in such a victim category. And I think that this is like a fucking another media thing. The fucking Jewish media pushed out where they put these, you know, the blacks in such a fucking victim category. And they put the Jews in such a victim category. They set up these victim categories so that you couldn't criticize them. And the first thing the Bolsheviks did before they fucking murdered 30 million Christians was they made it illegal to criticize Jews. So it's not a healthy thing to make speech illegal. And I don't give a fuck what guys you put it under of like,

oh, we're protecting people or this or that and we need this. You don't need censorship, period. It'll self-regulate. You go out and you fucking... I do believe that. Yeah, you go out and you say the fucking N-word and you pop off and somebody beats your ass. Okay, well, now you fuck around and you found out. Maybe you won't say that anymore.

You know, like, you know, like these things self-regulate. You know, like, if you go out and you say spic and some fucking Mexican beats the shit out, you maybe won't say it again. You know, I don't know. But it's like, whatever, man, they're fucking words at the end of the day. Like, and a lot of this, it's like, you see some of the fucking pushes of this. And it's in comedy because it's like really fucking up what comedians can do. It's like so much shit, unless you're a fucking black, gay, Jewish, Hispanic guy.

You know what I mean? Like you can't really have free reign to say what the fuck you want. It's like, imagine being a white Catholic fucking comedian. And it's also ruined, it's ruined so much stuff like movies. I mean, I've always seen the tropic thunder thing or Robert Downing Jr. You could never do that again. And it's like, bro, those are some of the best. And everyone also agrees.

They go, these were the best movies. Like bring this back. But then everyone's at the same. time they're saying that they're still on the other hand being like well don't say this and don't say that i'm just like we got to we got to kind of like pick one dude censorship of free speech is never a good thing and anybody trying to fucking censor is not on the right side that has historically been the fucking truth you look at you know you go to malice china you cannot criticize fucking mal you go to you know like russia you can't criticize but you know you go to these places

that are dictatorships or whatever it's like you want to figure out who's in charge figure out who you cannot criticize yeah you know and so it's like i think that that's a bad thing. And like I said, I think it points in the direction of, you know, who's actually in control. And, you know, and if you're in control and you're not worried about criticism, which is, you know, how it should be. I mean, that's kind of how the American presidents are. Everybody can fucking talk shit about Biden. They can talk shit about Trump. That's healthy. It's healthy because it's a good debate. You know, you learn the bad. You learn the good. You know, you get desensit to people just like saying the same thing about fucking Trump,

saying, you know, Trump's a Nazi. Trump's a Nazi. Eventually, it's just like, okay, whatever, dude. Yeah. But if you couldn't say anything and that people were like whispering it in secret or actually have more fucking significance and it would create more like undercurrents so it's just it's better just to have everything in the open i got a question for you just on social media and in regards to like what we're speaking about censorship did you see this coming because i remember i remember when YouTubers were like oh you're a fucking YouTuber like you're a loser and like Hollywood was still Hollywood it was like the still the crown as far as like where you got your information or you listen to the media or the news outlet and and everyone was just kind of like

oh you're a YouTuber like it was almost embarrassed because I was I'm so fucking old now, but having having these conversations is funny. I remember a time when it was like, you couldn't, you just, I mean, now there's times you can't say shit, but you couldn't say certain things or your people's perception of you was just like, you're a fucking, you're a YouTuber, you're a bullshitter, right? I think a part of that came from like guys like Jake Paul and Logan Paul and I'm not like talking shit, but like some of the earlier stuff was kind of cheesy, but it was cheesy because it was like it was catered to a really young audience.

So I think that and then, you know, some of this, and it was all kind of like, you know, super like, you know, politically correct and like very sensitive and like, you know, it's kind of like had like a little bit of a gay flair to it, you know, like, so I think that's what gave YouTubers a bad name was because they were catering to their younger audience. They also never want to be demonetized because, you know, YouTube, another Jewish, you know, super censorship platform. If you say anything, the wrong thing, you can demonetize the kick fucking Steve will do

it off. You know what I mean? Like if you say anything against the narrative or anything like slightly controversial to kick you off. So it's like maximum censorship, but they're also the only platform at the time that was paying. So it's like these people were like really like walking straight lines. They didn't want to swear. They didn't want to do this. So it's like anytime, you know, you push the censorship and this politically correctness is going to make something lame, right? So I think there was that

lame connotation. Because look, like, you know, if you're in Hollywood, you can say fuck, you can, you know, you can, you know, you can do crazy shit in Hollywood, you know, in movies, right? Like it was kind of like, no holds bar. I mean, it's been more guardrail lately, but still, like what you could do in a movie was radically different than what you could do in YouTube. So I think that, like I said, plus the fact. that it was catered to a younger audience probably gave that. And then also there's just like so much

click baity shit on YouTube. I mean they've done so many like articles on me. I mean like what was it like four years ago? I was fucking broke. I was fleeing the country. I'm going to be arrested. It's like they just put so much nonsense out there that I think that causes people lose respect for,

you know, the platform. But I think it's changed now because I think the content A is better and it's and people are consuming more of it and they're going more towards YouTube for, entertainment because Hollywood has gone so fucking downhill and their movies are so fucking bad now like dude I used to be a big movie buff like I love movies I don't watch a fucking Hollywood movie that I liked it forever yeah it's weird it's it I don't know I mean I guess it makes

sense because they they start to fall in line with like their own sort of cues of what you could and couldn't do so people stop watching it but did you see social media turning into what it is today you know I I haven't been on social I've really my it's funny man i migrated to my like least um big platform like mostly only posts on twitter now and it's funny because that was like the platform that i didn't give a shit about for most of the time um and so i'm not on instagram as much anymore um so it's kind of harder for me to speak on where it's gone yeah but i think the biggest part that i think that social media is in net negative is that it's so many people are just like on there to try and get attention

and it's like by any means necessary. So the problem with that is it's like you almost become like a character chair of yourself or cartoon, you know? Don't you think you add it to that a little bit? Oh, for sure. But what I was doing was authentic though, but it was just like it was fucking crazy nuts.

And so it got attention naturally, but I never did stuff for Instagram. I mean, like I would be doing this crazy shit because I wanted to do it. Towards the end of Ignite, it started to be a little bit more about like, okay you know like we need to promote the brand yeah so i did lose some authenticity i mean none this like i was still fucking all the girls and i was still doing all the shit but some authenticity

in the sense that i was like doing it more for the brand sorry i got to interrupt real quick was it was it ever true that like if someone would say this i i don't know if you told me this i don't think you told me i think someone would say this about you was it true that if you tagged her you had it was like your girl you had slept with her oh i shit yeah i almost would never tag her Well, I would almost never, yeah, I would never tag her. I've made a few exceptions, but almost never tag her unless I'd hooked up with her. Yeah, no, I mean, it's because to me, that's like, almost like, you know, like posting a picture with somebody else's watch, you know what I mean? Or like, I don't know, it just seemed unauthentic to be doing that.

So, yeah, no, just, yeah, no, and I tried to, I would never like post a picture with me and a girl. Like I said, some rare exceptions, you know, for the brand or whatever, on the end of it. there was maybe a girl here or there. But like for the first, I don't know, eight or 10 years, there was never a girl posted her tag that I didn't. Did you ever have dudes hit you up? Be like,

yeah, that's my chick. What the fuck? Well, I mean, I was pretty open about it, man. I know,

it's like, you know, I put this in my book. There's like some crazy shit that happened. We're like, dude, you know, I'd post a chick like basically like naked on my plane and she had a

boyfriend and then the boyfriend would start calling her and then like, I saw some such fucked up shit. You almost lose faith in humanity. sometimes like she literally like turned her phone off was banging me all night turns the phone on at breakfast and it's like hey have you fed the dog like not like hey how are you doing not like sorry i turned the like bro after a photo goes up of your girl naked on somebody's fucking plane then she ghost you for fucking 18 hours or whatever and then hits you up about feeding the dog like and then

that dude married her and even then when they were engaged she hit me up in italy trying to like meet me on a yacht to bang me while they're there engaged with her family bro the shit that i've seen is so fucked up like i stopped like i basically made a rule like i wasn't going to fuck any chick that like had a boyfriend yeah unless she was like already cheating or had cheated a bunch like but pretty much my rule became like i wasn't going to fuck anybody or any girl that had a boyfriend so i really tried to stick with that because i felt like that was just fucked up yeah but like dude you have to understand like in college though it was like dude i was like fuck the chick's gonna fuck me you should fuck anybody you know so

Like, whatever, dude. Yeah. You know, like this dude's getting cheated on. But then I think later, you know, with more, or more fucking power, I think comes more responsibilities. It's like, I think there was like times when I could have fucked a chick and she might not have otherwise cheated on the guy. So then I just cut it, you know.

So let's talk a little bit about the, uh, the, the, the Sigma thing and the, the courses that you have. What, um, what's like the main purpose of that to teach men how to like be better with women? Yeah. Like, I just want them to understand like, I, first of all, want them to have a fucking like roadmap of just the basics of what to do what not to do so many guys they would just stop making the fucking mistakes that they made like if they just wouldn't fuck up

they would have a 99% chance of like doing better what do you think the biggest mistake guys make is over communication of interest I would say that that is probably like the initial one they come up they over compliment the girl they put her in a position of like okay I know I can have this guy do I want him they put her in a position of power exactly and like when you know throughout your life like you're trained to value scarcity. You're trained to value things that are hard to get, right? So if somebody makes something super easy to get for you, you know, and it's very obvious that they want you,

the first thing you're going to think is, okay, well, do I want this person? And when you're looking at somebody is like, okay, like I know I can have them, do I want them? All of a sudden, all their flaws magnify, you're looking for things wrong with them. Let me tell you, when you're looking for things wrong with a human being, you find a fucking lot.

Yeah. Right? So like, yeah. And I'm not saying, you know, you have to be like super covert about all this shit. like just coming up leading with like a bunch of compliments over communicating interest chasing a girl it's just like it's the fastest way to make it run you know so i think that's one thing i think also there's relationship dynamics um that's a big factor guys give away way too much power

yeah they make concessions too frequently where it's basically like they women cheat because they get bored like that's why they fucking cheat and so they get bored when the guy is over available. And I'm not saying you should be a scumbagging relationship. I'm not saying this stuff. But like when you over kiss her ass, when you're too available, especially in the initial dating phase, like before you guys are serious or whatever, you're just going to be more likely to run her off, you know? And I think that a lot of guys, they've just been given bad directions. And, you know, an example I like to give is like if I tell you that Florida is fucking west and I send you west, you're never going to get to fucking Florida. You know,

it's like, and that's the problem with guys today, they've been given bad directions. And you You see it, like you see it in the statistics. And also you couple that with the fact that women think that they deserve a guy that's fucking six foot, whatever the fuck you are and fucking, you know, and it makes millions of dollars a year and fucking has a 10 inch dick and it's really funny and is this and is that. It's just like, where the fuck do you think these guys are? You know, like even if you find a motherfucker like that, he's got a bunch of options. He's probably not going to want to fucking date you.

You know, they want a guy that's famous. They want a guy that's this. It's just like it's crazy what they think that they deserve. And so when you have women that have this delusion of what they deserve because they've fucked some football player, you know, they haven't dated them. They found some football player that was drunk that fucked them one night. So they think that that's like what they deserve. And now they're comparing this fucking computer tech to this fucking, you know, six foot eight fucking, you know, like linebacker that fucked them, you know, like great. You know, it's like this guy's never going to live up to it.

I'm just saying like they create this thing where it's very hard for guys to measure up to what they think they deserve. And so the best way to do that is to not chase them Because the moment you chase them It's going to remind them that you don't have these things that they want Whereas if they're chasing you When you're chasing something You're not thinking about what's wrong with you You're thinking about how to get it

So I think that's a big thing I mean dude like I mean you saw it like I put in absolutely fucking Almost no effort Yeah I listen I could I could attest it's first hand And I'm not the best looking motherfucker You know I'm like pretty average looking guy Like I was in good shape like whatever

But you know it's gonna sound like like I'm fucking glazing because it's maybe I am a little bit but I was there bro you you're the most nonchalant dude I've ever seen and it's like I swear because there's like maybe 12 15 girls there and they would always try to find a way to be close to you it's crazy it was so funny dude and because of that then it made the other ones want to do it you know what I mean it's like this in this pack mentality you see it on these shows you know like you see the bachelor or whatever it's like you know if this girl randomly saw the guy in the bachelor in a bar show I wouldn't look at them twice. But because those other 19 girls want to fuck them on that show,

she's going to do anything to bang him. You know, it's like this. There's pre-selection, there's jealousy. There's all these things. And what I want guys to understand is like all the different attraction triggers, what they can do to make themselves better looking. Because look, as a man, you have a big advantage over women. Women are kind of like, you know, what they're born with is kind of like what they've got. You know, if they're super big bone, you know, if the fucking birth are from Idaho, they're probably never going to be a 10. But a guy can be a 10. You know what I'm saying? Like a guy that's, this fucking, you know, 5-8 can be a fucking 10.

If he gets rich enough, famous enough, you know, gets enough girls that are interested in him, whatever. I've seen it. Dude, in college, there was this dude who was like 5-7. Didn't have any fucking money, but a lot of girls wanted to fuck him. He didn't really care because he had, you know, abundance. And because of that, it was like, dude, these girls were like literally throwing themselves at him because he didn't care.

They wanted him more and they were fighting for him. It's like, oh, why doesn't this guy like me? They're not worried about the guy that's fucking texting him 15 times. They're not worried about the guy that they can call anytime. and that guy's ready to take him on a date. They're worried about making this guy like, you know? So it's like, there's a part of it that's gaming it. There's a part of it that's understanding psychology.

I think that's a big piece of it. And then there's also just understanding how to make yourself more attractive to a woman. So there's two questions I have that I get asked all the time that I think are some of the most important, like things that I want you to answer them. The first one is because in order to achieve the money to have the things like, let's say you're the guy who's not as tall or not as good looking, whatever. and you have to try to find these other avenues to make yourself more desirable, like money or success or popularity. How do you figure out what your purpose is?

This is like a very, I know it's very open-ended, but a lot of people ask that question. Well, when you say purpose, you mean like, what are your attraction triggers? Like, what should you kind of like focus on? Not in regards to women, but to find your own success.

Well, that's going to kind of... Like, what's the first step? So I would say, you know, and this is true with women, this is true with with finance, it's true, with whatever, is you basically want to find, like what you have going for you and like lean on your attributes you know like if you're a guy that's

you know really funny then you know maybe fucking dating apps aren't the best way to meet women you know what I mean like if you're a guy that's less attractive then you're going to do worse on dating apps right so I would say that you know with the women you want to like figure out what your strongest attraction triggers are and then put yourself in positions where those will be magnified and then as far as with the finance stuff I would say you know what do you have going for you. You know, like, what are you interested in? What do you already have a, you know, foundation of knowledge of? Or where do you think the industry is going? Like, you know, now, if a kid, you know, just said, you know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I'd say, okay,

well, you know, I'd probably learn AI because I think there's going to be a lot of money in AI. Yeah. You know, like I would kind of like try and figure out where the market is going to go and try and be a pioneer in that space. And I think it's, I don't think it's necessarily as important to do something that you like. A lot of people stress that. Yeah. But my outlook was always like make the most amount of money in the shortest period of time possible that you can so that way you can enjoy it when you're young. So poker. Poker for me at the time, you got to understand, I came in at the right time. Like that was right time, right place.

And that's another thing, you know, that book by Malcolm Gladwell Outliers, that's one of the things that he stressed in that book is like much of success is like being at the right place, the right time and then capitalize. Well, this goes back today, I think. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So, and for me, you know, I was at the right time, the right place of poker because that 2003 was like really when kind of like people even fucking started looking at poker. It started being on ESPN. Chris Moneymaker won the World Series. You know, this whole thing. Celebrity started playing it. You know, rounders came out, whatever. And so it's kind of like the poker boom. And I was there before everybody got really fucking good. I also had a good backstory to get me into the private games, the whole trust fund thing or whatever. And so I was able to capitalize on that. And it also was a was a job that gave me. a lot of freedom and flexibility. I was my own boss, which I functioned well with the freedom. I wouldn't recommend that to anybody. I was joking. It's not. Yeah. That's definitely not the first option. Okay. The second question, and I get asked this one a lot too, is it obviously I don't

think any of us is going to avoid this. And I kind of want to ask you this too. Like personally, how to get over heartbreak. Because in order to get to actual girl you want at some point, right, you probably have dealt with a girl that, you know, got rid of you or you got rid of her. You got a heartbreak. And it's really hard for people to move past that. 100%. I think the best way to do it is to start dating again, to get another option, to get other options, to get your mind off of it.

Because I have broken up with girls and then I went on vacation. That is the fucking last thing that you should do. Because now you're like out there, you have no options. You're only thinking about her. You're missing her. It's all this shit. So definitely do not try and run away. Don't go on vacation.

Don't like go off on your own. like just get back on the horse you know like you don't think it's important to to to process that though to like so for sure i'm not saying get back into like a super serious relationship i'm just saying like you know meet other girls like you get out there start dating and i think part of the process is figuring out like what you did wrong what she did wrong why it didn't work i mean every relationship i think the the biggest disasters are your biggest learning moments and i think that's not just um true of relationships i think that's true in life like i've learned the most through my failures. So when you succeed, it's like, what the fuck do you learn? Like, yeah, the fastest

guy in the race. Like, okay, whatever, man. But like when you lose that race, like, oh, I should have done this. I fucked up on this. I didn't have the endurance of the end. You know, like, you learn from failure. So, um, that's another reason why I tell people just get back on the horse, even if it's just a rebound, whatever. But it gets your mind off of that. You start like, you know, and then maybe that ends up getting you back with the girl. Maybe you appreciate her more because, you know, you've gone out. You've dated a few girls. And you realize like, you know, you're a much more compatible with her, whatever. But like, I think a mistake that people make is they just kind of like sulk and they focus on it. And I think just keep moving forward. Don't look back.

Yeah. And I think, I think you said something important though. It's it's about also to like processing in a way where you're able to understand a lesson in it. Because I think a lot of people, it happens and they're like, they're just mad and like, fuck you, this happened to me. And I'm, it is good obviously to go date and find someone else. But I think it's also really important to like look at the situation how did you actually fuck up like where were your actual mistakes like your own accountability because it goes back to the thing we talked about earlier about the victimhood and being like this just happened to me not like how I showed up here and how I fucked up so that you could actually when you get the right one or the next one or whatever it is because

everyone's obviously different and could actually be the right one is probably the next one who knows but it's like actually giving yourself time to process this like okay this is where I fucked up this is where I showed up wrong I could have done this differently and learn it instead of just be sad about it happening because most people are afraid of doing that part and they just keep repeating and I could I'm speaking from fucking experience I've done it where I've had it certain relationships long relationships lost them did the same thing to second one lost it and I was like damn I could have made these work but I didn't learn the lesson when it was my time to learn the lesson I got the lesson again I got it harder and harder each time yeah that's another

reason I kind of like mapped it out for these guys too is because I wanted them to understand what they're doing wrong I think a lot of guys make mistakes and don't realize what they're doing like they'll lose small battles and it'll end up having like a downstream very big net negative effect and they won't realize where it came from like you know for instance like just being you know too overly agreeable like every time if your girl wants to watch a romcom you cave and like okay baby you know like this whole happy wife happy life thing I mean you probably don't do I know you don't do it but I'm just saying a lot of guys make this mistake and they make it in relationships too where they like make these small concessions and then they become expected and not

appreciate it and then when they say no it's a fucking big problem exactly it's like you take a guy out to dinner you pay fucking nine times you don't pay on the 10th time he looks at you like you fucking raped his mother you know what the fuck dude you know so you set these precedents and the problem is if you constantly cave you're setting a precedent of like whatever she wants she's going to get and then you're just going to have a fight versus like if you're like no we're watching this or i want to see this and you're challenging and then you make a concession later now she appreciates it you know what i'm saying it's like it's a very different dynamic and i think that's a big mistake guys made it's also i think got unspoken thing that in the challenging when you're like, you're not just bending over and saying, okay, I'm doing this because you want this. She probably also looks to you a little bit differently where she's like a little more respect for the fact that you're sitting your ground. Yeah, because you're sub communicating that you're willing to walk. You're sub communicating that you have boundaries. You're sub communicating that like, okay, like, you know, this is what I want. And I think relationships are better when she's focusing on trying to make you happy and you're

focusing on trying to make her happy. And it's, you know, both things as opposed to like you're just doing whatever she wants to appease her. That's going to be boring to a girl. Yeah. You know, so it's like, it's good to be good to your partner, but there is a too much of that. And the problem is if you do too much, they get bored. And when women get bored, they fucking cheat. I mean, I'm just telling you, I can't tell you how many times a girl started off a story of how she cheated on our boyfriend. He was so nice, but he was so nice. Every time.

Yeah. And I would hear it. Dude, that was like the only thing I really cared about talking to these girls about was like crazy shit that they did. So like, I would hear nutty stuff. You know, it's like, then they're on your plane. Yeah, exactly. It was like, oh, you know. my fucking boyfriend, like, you know, he fucking liked this other girl's Instagram

photo. And then this chick's sucking my dick. And it's like, wait, like, what the fuck? You know, you're mad at him for liking a girl's Instagram photo, but then you think it's okay to suck my dick. Like, it's just, I don't know, man. The double standard was crazy. So, okay, so speaking of too much, we're going to talk a little bit about, um, supplements, fitness, gear. Um, what was your best cycle? What was your worst cycle? So I'm, I'm weird because I don't respond well to very many things, unfortunately. I know. We've had this conversation. Yeah. Yeah. I can't do too much. I would. I would, I would, I would, I would be a fucking girl. You know, the best part about you is and it sound like glazing again, but fuck it. I don't care is that you're the same exact dude on camera and off camera. That's the best part. Because when I have this conversation, I'm like, we talked about this, but obviously I know they probably haven't heard it. Yeah. I mean, look, I think as you get older, you just stop caring. And you see this in like, you know, the highest degree with like the 80 year old man that just says whatever the fuck he wants. Right. I can think, and I just got there sooner. Um, so. Yeah. So, yeah. yeah, man, I just, you know, I just don't apologize for who I am and I'm honest and I just,

you know, just fucking put it out there. So as far as cycling, I mean, I want to preface this with, I would not recommend any steroids for people that are under 18 or I would even say 20 or 21. I agree. You don't want to fuse your epiphizial plates. It's not about like, listen, I'm like the big advocate of gear. I tell people like all the time, like go get your levels checked. If you're fucking sub 500, get on it'll change your life. It'll feel way better, whatever. But that being said, if you're younger, you don't want to lose. a few inches on your height to gain a few inches on your biceps you know it's like you can always fucking you know get muscle later and honestly like building that foundation of like natural muscle

where you work for it and I think it's also building the habits building the habits exactly so many guys I see them and it's like now they they can't even work out unless they take a D ball for pre workout and it's like they get very reliant on this stuff and like if you get reliant on it you like dude if you've worked out for five six years on no fucking juice and then you get on the juice you appreciate it more but you also still have that work ethic you remember what it's like to make those fucking slow gains because juice really fucking exacerbates and I think that's actually the reason why a lot of guys in the open category aren't as good now as they used to be is because they're on gear year round

and they don't ever want to fucking cruise and they're always fucking blasting because now social media they have to always be on yeah so they don't really have like that fucking downtime that off cycle, give the receptor sites and time to fucking, you know, rest and recoup. And because of that, I think they hit walls. And then their answer is just like, oh, Gramatran and Grant, you know, it's like, man, it's really unhealthy. And when you have those super physiological doses, that's when you have so many higher instances of side effects.

For sure. You don't really get that much proportionate muscle gain for the disproportionate amount of side effects that you'll get with it. So I'm a big advocate of like doing the shit responsibly. and I'm a big advocate of HRT if you have a low testosterone. I'm actually trying to do an HRT clinic. I think that would be cool because it's such a small amount of money makes such a big impact on your fucking life.

And I think now with these shitty diets and whatever, like estrogen is that it's all time high. And I don't think guys even understand how much different they will feel with a high normal level of testosterone. Like you don't have to be honest. I actually have issue with like, I would recommend people don't do cycles. I mean, you could do it here or there, add a little bit of an anabolic.

But I'm a big fan of just like steady progress. And that's why I like HRT. Yeah. It's because you're just making steady progress. The problem of the cycle, you know, for like some fucking 22 year old guys, he fucking starts blasting all this gear, gets super jack, super strong. And then when he gets off, would you have to get off at some point? Yeah.

Then it's like, dude, who wants to go to the gym and get weaker and smaller? It's like, it's just so much shittier. I would much rather have a slower uptick and constant progress than like this big peak and then this fucking valley. And so, yeah, I, like I said, I'm a big advocate of HRT. And I think that also you should do kind of like the minimum to get the result. And then, you know, obviously like, you know,

if you really want to be a pro bodybuilder, you know, you just want to be fucking super freaky, whatever. You know, do whatever fuck you got to do. You know, but like you would be surprised at how much good benefit you can get from like doses that guys don't even talk about. Like, dude, right now I'm running a fucking like eight milligrams of MPP every day. and I'm doing 24 milligrams of tests.

Yeah, which every day? Every day. So that's in a week. I'm like a little under 275 on test. Yeah. I'm at like I'm at like 56 milligrams of NPP. It's pretty fucking low. It's minimal, yeah.

You know what I mean? But like I have a much better feeling than when I'm or I'm not saying a better feeling, but I have much better results in the gym than just doing like the 140 a week of HRT. So it's like a small bump. But then when I get off and I go back to the 140, I don't feel like I just dropped off. I don't lose my gains. I don't feel like shit. Like, you know, in fact, my sex drive actually goes up because the MPP actually like lowers

my sex drive, which I found out. I'm actually like implementing that almost to help me with my sex addiction. Because empathy is like a little bit. Well, it does. It's like a nanderloat. So it kind of like lowers your sex drive a little bit, which is like a welcome fucking thing for me. Because, dude, I was fucking like three times a day every day.

It was just like, dude, my whole day like revolved the race. around pussy and then I would get the gym in there and by the time I was done fucking three four times and hitting the gym it's like dude I didn't have them and I ate five times like by time you do all that stuff it's almost like that's like it's night time yeah yeah most your day and you watch a movie that you do it again it's like it's all right but I just you know it's not like yeah I think the most one thing you said too though is is blood work getting your blood work done because there's a lot of things that I think men like you said there's so many other things going on now with like the micropastics all the bullshit water all this kind of shit and

like our fucking society that's insane, that I think men aren't even aware that their levels might be low. And I'm not saying like an 18 year old, 19 year old, but 20, mid 20s, 30s. I think it's very normal for people. It shouldn't be, but they have lower testosterone than I think historically. And I think getting your blood work done, whether you're planning on taking steroids or not or performance agencies or not, is like one of the most important things you can do at any point. Because you can kind of identify what's going on. And I think not enough people know what is happening in their body. And if you do that and you know it, You could change little things.

Like even just supplementing with like basic things like vitamin D can change your fucking your sleep. And if you're changed your sleep, everything else in your life can be different. Seratone and then goes up. So now you're happier. You can be depressed. I mean, yeah, so many things you learn from your blood work. And there's so many factors too.

Like the way I would, I would describe doing HRT is like the difference between going from like a Mustang to a Ferrari. Like you take a Mustang around the track. It's probably never going to break down. But it's not going to be that much fun. You know what I mean? But like a Ferrari is going to break more, but it's also going to be a more fun when it's fucking going and there's more things to tune you know what I mean like so

that's how I would look at HRT is like you're basically running a Ferrari and when you're doing that like you got to look at your estrogen dial you got to look at your fucking free test your serum test you know your cholesterol your fucking um you know hemoglobin hematicrit like you know all these things that start changing you have to realize like how you respond to drugs yeah so that's why I always tell people anytime if you're ever considering this stuff get your blood work done establish your baseline and then make an informed decision like if your baseline is fucking 900 tests, like, man, unless you're a pro athlete, I would say just fucking don't fix it if it ain't broke. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, I would really recommend against that.

But look, if you're a guy that's just like, fuck it, I want to do it, then, you know, whatever, just do it smart. But really, just run test initially, you know, whatever you're, you know, start with 200. You know, if you're a guy that, you know, it doesn't respond. Look, everybody responds differently to 200 milligrams of test, too, by the way. Yeah, for sure. So, like, you're going to respond differently than me and, you know, and some other guy, right? So, like, find out what that does to you. And I always say, like, shoot every day because you load with, with like a, you know, 21 gauge and then you shoot with a 30 gauge insulin needle, half inch. I mean, it's literally like you're taking a diabetic shot, shoot it all through your fucking

quads, shoulders. Microdosing it, basically. Microdosing because that's how your body naturally does it. And the beauty of doing that is then when you get your blood work done, every day is the same. You fucking shoot 200 milligrams on Friday. Your fucking levels on Saturday and Sunday are going to be way different than Thursday. Right. So like, you know, you just have to like figure out what your test is and it's hard to do that.

And then also your, your aromatization is going to be different, right? If you have a super high test, you're going to aromatize because your body wants your test and your estrogen to be more balanced. You're going to have more of these peaks and valleys that are going to cause more like, I'm upset or I'm like in a bad mood or instead of having that consistent flow. Exactly. And so and then the problem is your test starts to rise. And as your estrogen is rising, your test is going down. You know what I mean? Then you're crying watching a rom-com saying yes to your girl.

Bro, you're like, fuck, dude. I didn't want to watch this. I don't work. You know what I mean? It's like crazy. it's hard, even hard for me and I've been doing this for 20 years to differentiate between low estrogen and high estrogen. And that's something you have to figure out too because just nuking your estrogen is not the answer. I can fuck up your dick, fuck up your sex drive,

fuck up your sleep, you know, high estrogen is obviously, you know, can be bad too. It's also bad for your heart to have low estrogen. Yeah. So anyways, yeah, you really want to like figure out all that shit. And then you're creating kinase levels, figure out if you're overtraining cortisol levels. There's so many things that you can just get in, you know, and just common blood work that will give you an idea of where you're at. And I honestly think it's the future of medicine because if you have that stuff, then you can predict problems before they happen. And doing preventative stuff is much more effective than trying to like fix something

once it's like crash. Yeah, reactionary shit. So you've been, I mean, you've been in fitness for a long time. I know that you had a supplement company before steel supplements, right? So I was working with Jason Hudd, this Chinese cock sucker.

And basically we did this deal where I was getting 10% of gross in perpetuity. he was doing 2 to 300k a month in sales and I you know started promoting his stuff and they went to like 5 million a month in sales and yeah so he was doing great he got a big email list he's retargeting all this stuff we would fight did we fight all the fucking time because he didn't want to do ab testing on the prices I was just driving like hot traffic and like you know this you know his stuff was you know it was it was better than what was out at the time um but I was like dude you got to price this stuff more effectively and he would just put high prices on people would buy it because you know i'd fucking post about it and whatever and then he started

cutting corners you know i wouldn't even take his fucking weight protein because you use way protein concentrate instead of isolate because it was fucking cheaper and so like anyways we had this whole thing where he basically ended up you know he was making all this fucking money this big email list and didn't want to fucking pay me anymore so he sued me and he sued me under the premise that there was like a full send bag in the background of a video that i did and i was like bro like what the fucking talk about it's full cent ain't paying me anything he sent me a duffel bag it's like in the they had supplements for like fucking three months or some shit you know what I mean like anyway so he like somehow fucking weasled out of his fucking contract and um anyways it was

actually like a blessing because I'd wanted to do a supplement company right because I don't like artificial sweeteners and I don't like artificial flavors and I found that actually when I fucking started messing around with insulin I did insulin for like three weeks got up to like 218 pounds or something and I've always been afraid to try it Yeah, dude, it's, don't do it. And so, but I learned some things because insulin basically makes your body like a sponge. It's a transport mechanism. Right.

And what I learned was when I would take a supplements when I was taking insulin, it would fucking make me sick. Because like I would absorb all those like fucking artificial sweeteners and bullshit. And dude, I'm just telling you, if you haven't learned this after the fucking whole COVID debacle, like the fucking, you know, the government is not interested in your health, nor they even understand your fucking health. I mean, look at the food pyramid. Anybody that would recommend 11 servings of. fucking bread a day. Doesn't know fucking dick about fitness. So you should not listen to any shit they say.

And I don't give a fuck what they tell you. Artificial sweeteners are not good for you. So I removed all the artificial sweeteners. Like the protein is grass fed fucking from us, you know, New Zealand like way protein isolate. No concentrate. No fucking bullshit.

Like I just wanted something in company that I would take the stuff. And I was like, you know, I was working out at Dragonslayer over at Flexis place. And I remember me and my buddy, my training partner, we would do like the BCAs, but the unfavored.

you oh yeah it's true dude it was fucking disgusting but I would rather that than the artificial flavor so I just like I just got to a point where I was just like I wouldn't take any supplements because they were all just so fucking nasty and so I wanted to make some shit that I would actually fucking take and then didn't fuck with my gut too

that was another thing is I would get bloated like the weight protein concentrate especially like it would just fuck with my gut and artificial sweeteners as well so I eat so clean that I found when I like introduced any shit that wasn't you know, pure into my body, I would just, I would feel it. You know, it's kind of like if you just eat super clean all the time, you go have McDonald's

you're going to feel like fucking death. Your stomach's hurting, yeah. Yeah, but if you're some fucking random high school kid that's eating shit every day, you don't even notice it, right? But like, yeah, it is having an effect regardless though. Yeah. For sure. You just don't, your body's, you know, it's funny.

As I've gotten older, I've, I noticed that way more, which makes sense, you know, your body gets less sort of efficient over time. But I've definitely noticed that with artificial sweetness with bullshit where I'm just like, I can't, I swear, I'm not kidding, because I've had problems with vertigo in the past, But I don't know why, like two weeks ago, I ordered like, this is so, this is, I must have been high or something at night. And I was playing video games. And I ordered my postmates, like a bunch of Diet Coke. And I must have drank like four.

And then, and I'm well hydrated. Yeah. But I wake up the next morning. And I got fucking vertigo literally the next morning. I was like, no, this is. And then I haven't drinking it since, haven't had it since. Yeah. Dude, I'm telling you, I know for a fact, artificial sweetener is not good for it.

And so I eat, yeah, I eat pretty clean. I try to just avoid all process. foods like all that stuff and I just I feel better I know and I actually wore those glucose monitors for a while like the ones that you like put on the back of your tricep or whatever and so I'd monitor my glucose all the time and I'd see how to respond anytime I had anything that was processed fucking bloodshed would spike the roof it would fuck up my sleeve I track all my shit I got like the the whoop the or ring yeah I'm when I wake up you're funny you're funny because when we set up the pods I remember this time and and last time we tried to

up a pod like time ago and you're like yeah listen if my if my sleep's fucked up I'm not sharp like I was like I was like what the fuck is this guy talking about it makes sense I get it you want to be sharp like but I can tell you take it serious bro cognitive function to so much stuff like sleep is so important it's one of those things where it's it's just people that have great sleep take it for granted they don't understand how lucky they are and when you have bad sleep you start really realizing how important it is yeah um like you know before this I took a nap, you know, and I'm cognitively much sharper than it would have been if I didn't. Yeah.

And so I definitely notice it. And as you said, you know, as you get older, you feel it way more. You do, man. And drinking with all that shit. And part of it is hormones, you know, we don't have to deal with that because we're fucking, we're good. We're going to worry about shit lower in our test because we're just going to shoot more. But with like stem cells, shit like that, which has a fucking very strong effect,

they just decreased over time. I mean, I've been doing stem cells for 10 years. and I'm telling you, like, when I do them, your body repairs, but you feel younger. And that is a big, I think hormones, stem cells, and I think there's stuff that we don't even know about yet that we're going to find out, you know, as time goes on. But like, you see all these. I mean, they did studies where they did, um, as Chinese general, he was one of the many studies that they did this, but he would take blood transfusions from young soldiers and he would

swap it out with his blood and actually like really stopped his aging process. And they did this with rats. They actually showed rats, old rats that got blood infusions of small, of young rats. They actually reverse the aging process. Now, I don't know. I don't think that humans can reverse, but you can absolutely slow down. I think at some point we're going to figure out how to stop it. I don't know if we're ever going to figure out how to like reverse it.

But I think we're going to figure out how to like really like slow it down. That's getting weird. That's when you start talking about AI and it's like the future. Well, but if you think about it, if like, okay, so testosterone, that's one of the reasons why you definitely feel fucking ulers, your testosterone starts to drop. So we already figured out how to replace that. Stem cells, that's one thing that like definitely decreased over time. You start replacing that.

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think we're going to be able to fuck with it where, because look, I don't want to be fucking 150 and fucking in a wheelchair, you know, but like if you could still be doing your shit at like 80, 90, you know, that to me it's not about living forever. It's about like quality of life.

Yeah. I wonder where it goes though. Actually, I mean, all I know is I tweeted some shit the other day because it pissed me off, but I was they had they were talking about like teleporting humans and I was mad because like they couldn't even fix balding I was like this is bullshit turkey's pretty good yeah but still it's like I've seen it the quality of it is just sometimes like not the same which obviously not going to get exactly the same as is natural but it just seems like we are getting to like a part in in like human fucking society where things are getting really weird yeah really in so many ways and I honestly

I'm just so I'm so curious like I hope I survive long enough just to see how weird it is. But then part of me is also like, do I want to survive that long to see it get like really weird? Because we're getting less human. It's, it's a crazy thing, dude, and things are hyper accelerating too. It's like you look at like how much happens in a five year block now versus what happened from, you know, 1955 to the 1960. You know what I mean? Like it was just like such small changes. And now it's like, dude, society's changing things are changing internet. You know, it's just man, it's interesting. I really believe that that, that, you know, AI is going to change the game.

I mean, because it's, it's learning. It's just access to information. It's just fucking immediate. And then couple that with a cell phone. And they're talking about brain chips. I don't think I'm ever going to fucking do that. That's scary, bro. It is.

But it's crazy. I mean, they're basically going to, you know, turn people into computers if they do that. But yeah, it's just because like at that point, you started talking about everything we spoke about earlier,

like the control or the, you know, the information propaganda, whatever era of like, you'll believe this, think this. It almost seems like if you get closer to that than if it's in technology, it could just be baked in by whoever's designing the technology.

Where it's like, oh, that, you know, let's say Dan was talking about XYZ. We don't want to press a button. He's, you know, we got him. We've got to find him. It's crazy. I think there is a positive to this. I think like Kat Williams said, he said, 2024, the year that all lives will be exposed. And I think there is an element of like the veil being lifted with how much.

access we have to information and also like people's perception. I feel like people are getting pretty good at like seeing through bullshit and people are understanding like old things. You don't even like things that like used to trick people. I mean, look, dude, when I was young, man, I would look at a celebrity and I'd be like, oh my God, you know, that person. And I guess I've had probably more access to celebrities than most people, but I just, I don't get like that anymore. You don't even. I just see everybody as like human beings and like I think flaws are more display you know you got like a guy like the rock for instance like that guy is so fucking overexposed like every day he's on the fucking instagram he's doing this doing that like you just

see him all the time and i think it takes out some of the mystique of like the celebrity that used to have with like a brad pit or a you know uh leo or you know these guys that like there's just different star power and there's different kind of like mystique to them and i feel like now since everything is over exposed i think the upside of it is that there's it seems like like people are figuring. I mean, dude, I'm just telling you the Pierce thing was like a game changer for me. The comment part of it. Just reading those comments, being like, holy fuck. Like I thought it was going to get roasted in the comments. In fact, there's this Jewish guy that did a podcast that randomly ended up seeing it. It's so funny. He like was talking shit about the

interview and, you know, whatever. And he's like, let's see what the comments. He was all excited, you know, thinking that they're going to talk shit about me. Because Pierce is fucking pretty hard on me, right? If he goes in these comments, it's like he starts reading for like 10 minutes. He's like, I'm not going to stop until I read one that's not anti-Semitic. And it's like, this guy gets like 40 minutes. And he's like, I'm not going to stop. He's reading every single fucking comment. And every single one is like, on my side.

They get it. They understand what's going on. And like, and then he had his, his producer, whatever, start reading all the newest comments simultaneously to him. After an hour and a half, this guy finally threw in the fucking towel. But every single comment, he read for an entire hour and a half is, what is his reaction to that while he's seen? His face is twitching. I think he was like, I think he had Tourette's or something.

We shouldn't help the cause. Oh, you're talking about it sounds like Ethan. Maybe. It's got to be even like twitching and weird. I thought he was like twitching because he was freaking out. No, he has, he does have Toucheon. You're describing Ethan. I didn't see him, but I'm assuming you're talking about Ethan.

He's got like white hair, like kind of like white and black hair like comb back curly. He looks Jewish. Dude, it's definitely. Yeah, it's got to be him. Yeah. Strip me out. Can you get pull up on my phone. It's got to be him.

Yeah. But he would, dude, he read for an hour and a half. It was fucking hilarious, man. It's funny because I love Ethan. Yeah, he was pissed about it. Don't tell him your friends with me. I want to bring up something you said about the celebrity thing and just like where we're going as a society. I think it was interesting to see even just during the whole election process how all the, you know, all the celebrities come out and they're paying all like, they're saying they're paying all this money.

I don't know what's paid or what's exchanged. You definitely paid. You think so? Oh, well, they acknowledged it. Yeah. I mean, I don't think any celebrity is going to like lie about saying they got money to endorse somebody because that's kind of a hit on them, right? It's kind of like, I mean, that's the definition of selling out, right? If you're taking money to endorse somebody, it's kind of like that's...

So they said that they got paid? Yeah. And there's like 10 million, I think they paid to one. Well, it's insane. Well, because, dude, she was like negative on her campaign and she raised a lot of fucking money. Yeah, I saw that at the end of it and then trying to ask for more at the end. But what I was saying was it's interesting how even though, like, it's kind of speaking to what we're talking about as far as people like becoming more aware of like the world and just literally through social media.

um is that like the celebrity the idea of celebrity is like really dying because people don't care they're not like yeah you know this person said it that person said i feel like 10 years ago they'd be like because those those were the only avenues where you were getting information 20 years ago 15 years ago you were like oh i'll agree because i kind of like their music or i like their movies whatever they're and it's now it's just like people are like this is not meaning anything to me yeah i'm kind of like twofold on it i feel like a part of it i feel like people have lost like some of the like mesmerization of celebrity. I think 10 years ago or so people were more like starstruck by celebrity.

But the flip side of that is I feel like people also care about it more in the sense that like everybody's trying to be famous because now it's like more accessible, the average guy or average girl. You've got like Hawk 2O's, you know, this like no talent fucking or you know, cash me outside. These idiots that like make crazy money and become famous. Literally no talent because they just do one thing and then capitalize on it. And so I think I think the average person, unfortunately, is like so many of them are trying to be famous. Whereas I think like 10, 15 years ago, the average person didn't think it was like a possibility to become famous.

And now I feel like they're all like aspiring to be. And I feel like there's more emphasis on it. It's almost like if you don't have a certain amount of followers in L.A., like people won't like they won't even talk to you. You know what I mean? There's almost like this hierarchy. And I would see it on the trips to the girls too. like the girl that had the most followers other girls would like kiss her at you know what it was like a crazy like this pecking order that was established based on following it was sad so you so you think it's it's i mean it's overall a better thing though it feels like but it is also it is also a double ed sword because yeah there's just now everyone thinks that i don't know that's the only thing that they should be trying to achieve yeah i mean i also think it's like who were the fucking firefighters and the police officers is going to be now in the future it's like everyone's trying to be a social media person well it's hard man it's like you know if people think that they can make a bunch of money just like being themselves they don't realize like how shitty of a fucking like

job it is and how much effort these like content creators have to put into like creating this stuff yeah um especially since the bar is being constantly lifted all the time it's like what people are going to respond to and this and that and they get caught on these like treadmills of like trying to keep up with their own shit um i will say i think that it's taken away from experiences unfortunately like when you go do things I feel like so many people it's all about like capturing that moment as opposed to enjoying the moment now for sure

like everything I feel like people getting to working out just to make content not even to work out anymore oh yeah the gyms are really bad the gyms are brutal I mean you know it's funny I've gone the opposite direction like I'll go on a vacation and I'll like think that I'm going to get some like great content then I'll just like getting nothing

never filming never taking a picture but I enjoyed it you know and I was there and like yeah I don't know I feel like it's surprising because I think I went in different directions and I think Ignite was like

the pinnacle of caring about the content because it was for a brand you know and so I could rationalize it out too because I think it was like a part of me too that like treated like a video game like I wanted to win

I wanted like more likes I wanted this was like competitive and I think the brand gave me the excuse because before I was like very strong about it. I was like, I'm just going to do what I'm going to do. You're either going to capture it or you're not. Like this trip is going to be about like getting content. It's going to be about, you know, having fun. Fucking girls doing shit. You know, we're going to go out. We're going to fucking blow up an RV in the desert. We're going to drive a tank or, you know, whatever

was. It was about like the doing of the thing. And like the camera guys were like, you know, they had to capture it. And if they missed it, like, they missed it. We weren't going to set up shots like none of it. And I was like very strict about that. It was like, you know, kind of back to the whole thing of like I wasn't going to post a girl. I wasn't fucking. I was going to like, you know, I just had like a very like strict code. It's like, and I think that's why my stuff did well is because it was like all like very authentic to stuff that I wanted to do. And I think the lines got a little bit blurred with Ignite because then it was a little bit more about like also promoting a brand. So I could, you know, then it was

like easier to justify like, okay, well, you know, we got to get this shot. You know? Yeah. Is it true that you're in lawsuit with your father? Yeah. Fucking asshole. What the fuck? He's such a fucking dickhead. He's been a lawsuit with every fucking person he's ever like been friends with or been a business with and it's not a surprise. Um, but yeah, dude, they like, when I tweeted in support of Palestine, they literally illegally kick me off the board of my fucking company. Um, they like forced me out. It's, uh, it's, I mean, I still own half of it, you know? Yeah. Um, but yeah, they fucking like illegally kicked me off the fucking board and like took out my control. And I, they didn't even let me vote at the shareholders fucking meeting.

it's just like literally like breaking laws and now the motherfuckers are indicted you know and the CEO got fucking arrested you know what I mean so it's like I don't know where that's going to end up but yeah he's just and the crazy thing is the sales have never been better they're like oh you know these fucking tweets are going to fucking ruin it and it's like okay well you know whatever it is what it is like this is my position I'm not going to like change it and I'm like why can't you just go back to posting fucking hot chicks and you know I'm just like that's just not me you I mean like I'm like I beat my sex addiction I'm not going to go back to it to sell some fucking vapes you know like yeah but the crazy thing is the vape sales are actually the highest

they've ever been we're gonna do 150 million in sales this fucking year you know what I mean like so it's crushing um and surprisingly I actually thought you know but I just didn't care man it was just like eventually you get to a point where you just like feel like you got to do what you fucking believe and I think when you do that you're actually gonna be a lot happier I found that I was much happier when I started just like making decisions based on like what I thought was right and not worrying about any of the fucking rest of the fog. Because look, when you think they're going to fucking kill you or arrest you or whatever, your day has become brighter, you know, because you feel like there may be less of them.

So you're kind of like, fuck it, you know, like I'm just, I'm not going to worry about this. I remember I did a mushroom trip like, fuck, four months ago or so or six months ago, whatever the fuck it was. But I remember, man, I dove off this fucking super high. I just wasn't worried about shit. It's like, fuck it, you know. Yeah. I might not be here that long.

was going to do what I wanted and I was just man it really felt good and I think a lot of my life I was I got so worried about like the future and planning for this and prepping for this and like I didn't spend as much time in the moment and I will say that's one of the things that I've been doing more often is just like living in the moment and you will be happier when you do that I think depression comes from focusing on the past or trying to perfect the future yeah you know we get and I'm OCD like you too so we always want like everything to be perfect and I think when you get in that mindset it's it's hard because you're never gonna nothing's ever going to be perfect why do you think it's so hard to to not listen excuse me why do you think it's so hard to hear that inner dialogue where you know okay I shouldn't do this or I should do

this is better for me and to listen to that why is it so hard sometimes because man it's like we live in a world of like immediate negative repercussions you know you say one stupid thing on your pod or on a live where you do some stupid thing and somebody catches on camera like your career can be over I just I'm fortunate enough to be in a category where I'm not really cancelable anymore like because I don't care. I didn't do any brand deals. I don't take any money like I got offered three million dollars to do a fucking tweet about a crypto and said no. So like I am not beholden anybody. I think that's very liberating and it's freeing. But a lot of people, you know, unfortunately like most people aren't in that spot where they can just like fuck you like this is what I'm doing and you know chips are going to fall where they may. But do you think if even if you weren't able to technically be in that spot, do you think being in that spot is how you get to that spot? Yeah. It's kind of a strange thing. You almost have to let go and just fucking do your thing. And it's crazy. Like people actually really respond well to that.

I didn't realize it until I. It's one of those things where like you have to leap in order to fucking like rise. And like I just leapt because like I felt like it was right. But the crazy thing is I thought I was going to be met with a really negative reception. It was actually met with not in the beginning, but like later a more positive reception. Yeah. But yeah, it's one of those things where, you know, you got to jump. to know, you know. It's hard. And it's hard to listen to that sometimes. Well, it's hard because

there's so many examples of people that jumped and fucking, you know, the water wasn't very deep and they fucking hit the rocks and they're paralyzed now. It's like, you jump and you land in the water and it's deep and you come up. He's like, oh, that was easy. Well, it's like, okay, well, it happened to be. But, you know, there's going to be times when you jump and it's not. So, but look, I think when you follow your heart and when you do what you believe in, fuck it, man. Like, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Like, you know what I mean? You can't like, and here's another thing that I realize also, too, is that in life, you don't even know what's good or what's bad until way, way, way down the fucking line.

So in the moment, you might think something's actually bad for you, but that actually might turn out to be a fucking great thing because it leads to this and this and this. And like, you know, the example I use all the time is like if I were to graduated seal training, I probably would have like hung my hat on that and been like, oh, is a Navy SEAL like, that's enough. People respect that, you know, whatever. I probably wouldn't have achieved as much as I did. because I wouldn't have that monkey on my back.

You know, so at the time, I thought it was a worst possible thing and turned out to be good. You know, I think there's a lot of times in life where things that you think are good. Like, a guy wins the lottery, you know, and then he goes broken two years. He's going to be way more miserable two years after that comparing the rest of his life to when he had $100 million. You know, it's like it's almost always happens. It's interesting, obviously not as cool as a Navy SEAL, but I remember when I was in the competition timeline in my life and I was like, this was what I want to do. I wanted to be a bodybuilder. I wanted to do like, I started the men's physique stuff.

and I got screwed over and like because of the judging it's like all political and I remember I didn't get what I wanted which at the time was a pro card and then I was like all right fuck this, fuck this industry

I'm only gonna focus on like just making content because it was like right around the same time and doing that at the time I remember being like I felt so like oh they fuck me over

I'm getting messages from this is back at Facebook people were messing me on Facebook like you got rub and I felt like so hurt that I didn't get what I was like trying to get for so many years

and then it turned out to be one of the biggest blessings because then I just and my focus onto something else that to me didn't feel like it was where I should have been going, but it's what gave me everything else that I have in my life today, but focusing on something else. And it's just, and his life is funny like that, where it is sometimes the things that we think are, you know, not the direction we want to go in, but it's the direction we need going. So. Yeah. And as a control freak, I think the biggest thing that I learned on mushrooms was

just like, let go. Because you have to. You can't control everything. And like when you're shrooming, like if you try and control everything, it's going to freak you out. You have to let go. And so I think that was one of the big lessons that I learned was like, it's okay to let go sometimes. Okay to like it. Honestly, dude, it's only a perception of control. Like you don't actually have fucking control. Like just because you try really hard at something doesn't mean it's going to fucking happen. You know, like, so I think this idea that you can just, you know, control everything, it's just an illusion anyway. So when you take a breath and relax and just say, okay, well, you know, what's going to happen? And I'm not saying

like, don't prep and don't, you know, do the fucking work. But in, just saying don't get so fucking hung up on you know the end results like look if it's meant to be it's meant to be like do the work put yourself in a good position but like don't be so focused on the fucking outcome and I think by not focusing on the outcome it's like you know the more you build something up the more nervous you're going to be the more scared you're going to be and then the more likely you are to fucking fail like so often like here is a big governor so yeah I would just you know the advice I would give to people is just kind of like let go and just you know do anything is right and don't worry so much about what happens.

Like, just take it as it comes, you know? Like, yeah. Because I tried to control everything, dude. And it made me miserable, honestly. Yeah. Fuck, I relate to that so heavy. I appreciate you, brother, man. That was fucking amazing.

Yeah. You killed that shit. I'm glad you got that napping. Yeah. There's anything else you want to talk about? No, I think that's it. That's it, man. Thank you so much.

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