RAWTALK - The Truth Behind MTVJesse Leaving NELK

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with MTVJesse & DaddySteve & talk virginity stories, steve's fallout w/ Jeff, why Jesse left NELK & much more! Hope you guys enjoy, see you next Tuesday!Sponsored by: Prize PicksUse code “BRADLEY”& Make your first $5 line up & get $50 whether you WIN OR LOSE! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/BRADSponsored By: SeatGeekUse code RAWTALK for 10% off your next SeatGeek order: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/RAWTALK Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $25 discountSponsored By: Huel Get Huel today with this exclusive offer of 15% OFF + a FREE Gift! at Https://www.huel.com/rawtalk #ad #huelpartner

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let's get into this podcast podcast steppe react like he's never done a podcast before what the fuck is going on well i didn't know we start there just started is you start yeah fuck it we just started oh wow that's really casual how you like roll into it yeah it's it's it's how i do everything yeah i've never really planned shit i'm not really good at planning things. I think I messed the mic up. Something's loose here. Dude, I fix it. No, it's okay. You got it. No, you're it. Steve, are you nervous? No. Steve's nervous. No. No, I'm not. Come here. Do you have alcohol? Yeah, we do. Jesus. You need it.

We do. That's not a good sign. Do you really want some? No, I'm not. I don't want to ask for stuff. I'm good. Give any perks? No, we don't have though. We have no drugs. All them out of the drugs. This guy loves cocaine, man. Actually? Oh my God. Oh my God. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, it gives me someone's energy. Yeah. Like, why work out when you can just do cocaine? Because it's bad for your heart. How are those two connected?

Well, but working out's good for your heart. So it's like counterbalance. I guess you're thinking like, if I do the Coke and I have to work out, it's like, okay. Is that your take on it? Kind of. Like you'll eat less? Well, I just walk more. I'll just pace around more.

So I'll just do that and pace. So you're getting cardio. Yeah. So you're two birds of one stone. You're just getting your heart riled up and then doing the cardio. Well, why don't we just do like a body fat person? percentage like around the table and just talk about that i don't know what that means i'm down now yeah like what first thing you said to me well first thing i said to jesse was wow every time i see

you get more more shape yeah because i remember fucking fat jesse yeah and that's gone and then i remember he might come back but yeah you think so hopefully not so good but then i remember kind of you know you and it's similar it's the same yeah there's no working out yeah no there's gonna be a jacked like cold plunge Steve for sure one day I know it you're gonna like save his money well my plan is I'm gonna have like a wife my plan is get rich first and then like try to get rich and then just get healthy when I'm like rich well why not try to get healthy to be rich to enjoy him I mean he's on to something I waited till I got rich because you did too no you need you need money to be fit like you need like like a lot of fit people especially in LA I feel like

they have like nutritionists and like nice memberships nice gyms and stuff like you know that's an interesting take you need money to be fit but you could just like work out in your backyard it is an excuse though I think there's a lot of poor people that are like oh like it's because you guys have memberships and these things and subscription at the end of the day like it makes it easier but like yeah it still takes hard work well I was in shape before I was rich yeah completely dude I think about something I think it was in better shape when I was fucking broke do you said something because like I've been going through a bit of like being addicted to working out yeah it's like my happy place a little bit but like the especially cardio

it'll do like four or five hours every single day where i feel like a piece of shit nuts and if you don't do it you feel like a piece of shit yeah that's crazy and you said something i'm pretty sure back because i think about it all the time i think it's true you're like i'd eat like an apple and then i would go like uh yeah like do curls because you'd like you'd want to balance everything out yeah that's when i was a psychopath yeah i've been feeling that a little bit lately of like if i like it's not even bad food I eat like some chicken and some rice I'll be like I got to go burn a thousand calories like yeah that's like the beginning stages of like the terrible body dysmorphic that comes with working out here wakes up at like 5 a.m and runs four miles or runs for four hours

is it the idea that like if you don't do it you're going to lose it all right yeah that's exactly where I was you think you're going to go backwards yeah like I remember this was this is when I was in college and I was like so addicted to training and I wasn't as versed on nutrition so I was completely under eating like to the you know when people talk about overtraining, like I actually really did that. I, I so under eight because I was like, well, I'm going to eat healthy stuff. So I ate chicken, oatmeal, like zero fat, zero oils, no seasoning. There was nothing but like protein, a little bit of oatmeal, sometimes, blueberries. I cook like everything as plain as bland as possible because I was like, I don't know what else

is in there. I don't want to make, I don't want to get fat. And I remember it was like, like everything had to function. Like if you're eating it or you're burning it, it was. all for like tomorrow like to yeah well it wasn't even that I wasn't even thinking that deep I was just thinking like I have abs and I want to maintain this so bad I was psychotic about it like I was I was it was like obsessive where like I the thing that you're talking about is I literally remember if I ate anything I was like wherever I was if I ate I was like I need to get back to my at this time back to my dorm room and like do a hundred pushups because if I don't I'm going to be fat which was absurd because I wasn't never I was never fat but I was just starting to like start to gain muscle and

start to like like the way that I look. So I was so addicted to like, I mean, I'll put it, I'll put it perspective. I would ride at the time. I'd ride a BMX bike to a gym that was like probably three miles away, work out for an hour, do cardio for an hour, and then ride the bike back for like essentially almost another hour on a BMX bike because it's not like a track bike where you can, or a road bike where it's easier to go those miles. And then I would like get back to my dorm. I would eat a little bit of food like not. enough. I was not even enough at all. And then I would go do sprints on the American River because this was in Sacramento. I went to Sack State. Yeah. I was at Desmond Hall and I would basically like,

the hall was right next to the river and I would go up and I would do sprints along the river. I was just like tormented, to be honest. Like my mind was like I have to, I can't do anything that's not good for me. Was there a, was it like a bad breakup or like a, like, what was it that like made you want to like do this so much? I think it was. it was like the high school girlfriend thing it wasn't a bad breakup it was like just I did have a breakup but it wasn't so bad but I think it was just the first time in my like adult life or like starting to be adult life because this was like 17 18 where like I did lose a relationship and then I related that feeling of like losing someone that like I thought I loved in relationship

to like then my childhood and this the whole deep fucking issue that I have with my you know losing my father when I was young where it was like I'm losing people that love me and then like so then I just so fixated on like, okay, I got to control what I can control. And then I became like a control freak about my body because that's the only thing I could control. Yeah, it becomes, it's very comforting because you can control it. Yeah. But then it was like, it almost became erratic where I will never forget.

Like I remember at no point during the day would I let my abs not be contracted. I thought if I did not contract them, I would just like, they would go away. It was psychotic. Yeah. It was so crazy. You could even get bloated from something. You'd be like, oh, I'm fucking. No, it was an actual problem.

I'm telling this story. The reason why you probably heard this story because I told it and it was in the context of that, I got to the point where I literally cannot get an erection. Like I completely crashed my hormones while doing all this stuff because I did so much activity. Like where like I had girls come over and my dick would just, I didn't even know what the fuck's wrong way.

That's crazy. Well, your hormones, yeah. If you overwork, overstimulate your body, your nervous system, it's like it's fried and so much activity, not enough nutrition, not enough vitamins,

not enough animals. I would have thought that would be the, the opposite. I would have thought like you're hard of your train and harder you're doing shit the more you're like. Yeah, if you're eating food properly. But I was, I was isolating like just protein, like zero fat. I would not eat any fat. I thought, oh, that's what you can't eat fat because you get fat. Like I just didn't understand nutrition like I understand it now. That was also a different error where that fat was super like everyone hated fat. They told everyone that. But like you need fat to have your hormones operate properly in your body. So I'm eating

zero fat, only protein, activity out to ass. And I like, my body starts. to eat itself. I remember at one point, like I'm describing like, I'm like going to bed trying to keep my abs tight. So then I wouldn't sleep. And I got to the point where I'd wake up like, because now my body's actually eating itself. Like you start to tear the, your body starts to eat the muscle tissue that you do have to like get any sort of sustenance. I'd wake up. And the reason why I knew that was happening because I'd wake up and I'd pee like six times a night. That's your body's breaking down the tissue for fuel that you're not giving it. Isn't that good though? no it's good it's good if I was like super fat overweight and I needed to do that but I was skinny

and I just had abs and I was like trying to hold on to this like thing that you couldn't hold on to and then like I said I've been getting that lately like waking up a lot and also I've been getting like a night sweats yeah like covered in like wake up covered in sweat in a cold room yeah I don't know what the fuck that is I like that could just feel like anxiety or something yeah there's a lot of things that could cause that I mean at the end of the day the moral of the story is like you have to eat properly while if you're going to train especially to like the crazy levels and i just wasn't and i learned that because my dick stopped working that was the i was like i got to change something then i went to see my doctor and he was like are you like what the fuck

he saw me like my face like drawn out almost like i was constantly dieting to like the craziest degree and he was like oh do you know what your body fat was it was probably zero it's probably nothing i was like trying to sustain something that was unsustainable do you still have photos of being, I have, I have a picture. I have a picture I was wearing, uh, fucking, I remember because I got a job as like an Abercrombie model that stood in front of the store. No way. Yeah. So I would stand in front of the store in the, in the, uh, you know, the mountain, the big jacket, like the big, with the feathery stuff on it. So I would stand and, because I had abs. So like they just, I was working at the store regularly. And then

somewhere along the line, they were like, oh, we have this like, you can do the seasonal thing when you get paid extra money to stand in front of the store. If like, give us some photos. And I, like, they picked me right away. Because I, like, I was at, point where I had abs and I had like a vein from like the top of my dick like all the way went through my abs like and disappeared under my chest that's how lean I was like I've never been that lean since don't you just show customers your abs and you like check no I just didn't have a shirt I just had a jacket on and I had like it open so I just had no shirt on walk up to customers and be like check this out no no that was just already out it was already on display like the jacket

was open for pictures and I was just stand there and then they were no I didn't say check this out it was already check this out was already out I was just standing there for pictures or you're just standing in this you stay this is this is like probably one of the funniest jobs I ever had yes I stood literally in front of the store wearing abercrombie clothes and I had my abs out with a big jacket on during like the winter time and I got paid extra no this is a real this is really you guys are laughing because it's you know I can't get over like yo check this out but essentially that was it it was yo check this out to sell fucking hoodies really you should like walk around a mall and just go like oh no I was just

Staying in the front of the store and people come up and try and take pictures and shit with me. It was first time anyone took a picture with me. Do you think you could become a Navy SEAL if you wanted to become one? That's a great question. At this point of my life, does you look like one kind of? If I wanted to change my life completely, I probably could if I really put my mind to it.

But like, I'd have to really want to do that, like extremely want to do that. Because it's not like a thing you could just be like, I'll do it and it's for fun. Do you know DJ Shipley? DJ Who? Shipley. I don't. He's like a SEAL influencer now. He used to be a Navy SEAL.

Do you think it could be a guy like that in a street fight? A Navy SEAL in a street fight? Probably not. Are you trying to make a clip right now? Yeah, he was. Should you say it? No, that was great. That was great.

Probably not. I mean, unless he's like small. Right? That's how it goes? I don't know. I've never seen this go. Unless he's Jesse's weight. Yeah.

No, Navy SEALs are lethal, bro. Dude, yeah. Like, that's different. I would hate to have a knife fight with one of those. Oh, you're dead. You're 100% dead. You have a blade on you, don't you? Yeah.

I actually brought my knife just in case. so we got attacked by anybody coming here. Yeah, I saw a clip with you guys in Cheeto and he had the gut. I also was like, is he left-handed? Because the way he had the gun position, it was like he would have to pull it with his left. No, no, it was right here. It was just the clip. He had on the side.

Did he? Yeah. I swear it was the other way around where like his left, whatever doesn't matter. It was the clip. It was mirrored, I think. But he really, so I'm curious, did he, did you guys plan that or he just had that gun on him? He had it on him. Yeah, he's really that guy.

Yeah. Because I've talked to him off, like, off camera. And he's like really, he's a. about that shit. Have you heard about his childhood and shit? It's like fucking like riding horses in like the desert and fucking. No, he's really that guy, man. Yeah.

He's a really cool guy. Really fucking cool. How'd you guys get that sorted out? You guys? Like how did we meet you to? Yeah. How did I first? I don't know if I just,

because I'm like, I'm gonna fight him in there. Yeah. Fuck you and beat you up. Oh, that whole stick was fucking great. So funny. The,

oh, the Nate Diaz one was great. Bro. That was the best. Yeah. That shit was so viral. It was so mad. People are still mad at me. They still get mad.

You fucking pussy. You're a loser. Who cares? You're a bitch. I'll fuck you. I literally have kids with DM me all the time. Be like, I want to fuck you up. I'm like,

what the fuck? Just the troll about like fighting the fighters. Yeah. You know, like, people still get mad. You know what's funny about all that? Anytime anyone is like, this guy would win in a fight.

This guy would win in a fight. It's like, it's literally like the definition of a fight is that you don't know what's going to happen. You know what I mean? Like training. guy to, you know, someone who's stronger to like, even when they talk about like matchups in the UFC, it's like, that is what is exciting about the UFC.

Yeah, the unexpected happens. And for me, I have to be a little delusional. I think any man's got to be like, yeah, fuck it, I could do it. Yeah, you got to. You got to believe it. Yeah. Do you think he could beat the Taliban in a firefight? In like an arms fight?

Like, like, AK, like, what weapon do I have? Do I have an American, like, AR? Well, see, you're in the Congo Valley in Afghanistan. Okay. You have a machete. Do I have a machete? You have an AR-15 and a faceplate on you. Just blood everywhere.

I mean, it depends what I'm, like, fighting for, I think. I'm a pretty good shot. But they're probably good shots, too. You shoot guns? Yeah, I love shooting guns. I love guns. Do you, what, go to Vegas? You do it around here.

There's a couple, like, gun club things around here that you can go shoot outdoor, like, ski and just different, different sort of, like, you know, targets. You're, like, license and shit out here? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm working on getting concealed. I want to get that.

It's not that complicated. It's just jumping through loopholes. It's more, there's way more loopholes here. But apparently now they're talking about if you have concealed carry anywhere, like they're trying to pass a lot. I know Trump's working on this.

So that you could, if you have concealed carry like wherever, where a lot of people can get it more easily in like Louisiana or whatever, right? You can go all, all the states. Oh, as long as you get it there. Do you have to get a resident there, though, probably?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can get it here too. It's just there's a lot more hoops. Did you get your FSC out here? you have like the certificate the fire and safety certificate yeah you do that out here was it no no he got he got he finally got a driver's license yeah i haven't had a driver's license for four

years of living out here and then i finally got it to get a gun just to get a yeah because it's better than that that uh poker yeah way better so wait what what what i'm curious um well i got a lot to talk to you about but i'm curious what happened with jeff and you let's get the clips going baby? No, I just actually don't know. But I just do. I don't know. That's the answer? Yeah, I don't know. I think they had a little fallout.

Yeah. Like a little like. No, I still love Jeff as like a big brother. I just want to do my own thing. I honestly, you know what it is is I never had like, I never had like, I never had my own thing with Jeff. Like even though like I started the podcast like Jeff with them with Jeff, I, it still

wasn't like, there was no like growth for me if that made sense. Like I kind of, I don't know. I just felt like. Yeah, you didn't own it. I don't have that much like, not. control but freedom to do whatever. I mean, I did. You were kind of just a character is what you're saying. Yeah, but I started the show with Jesse and we go like 50-50 on it and we both have equal say and I don't know. You gave him 50%? God damn. Wow. He got a good deal. Wow. You gave

him a great deal. Yeah. Holy shit. And I'm totally. Honestly, it's been in such an interesting look at a deal that you never see it done that way. But it was like now he fucking cares about it. He has his own baby. He didn't have the money in the connect. to start it. He is talented and he is like the great at comedy editing, everything. And he's a one-man show and he does it. And like, it's actually a pretty good, uh, I don't know, it's a good, like, the dynamic doesn't cost me that much.

It's already profitable. Got a sponsor on it. So it's good. Oh, sorry. No, no, go ahead. It's the, it's just our dynamic. It's so, like, he's the ex- YouTuber. It doesn't like, he's trying to get away from YouTube.

And I'm like, I'm like, want to be a YouTuber trying to, like, drag him back in. Yeah. Like, he's like, just that dynamic of, like, Little brother, big brother. It's also different for you, too, because you, I mean, you got a, from what I understand, I don't know the metrics of it, but you got like a massive payday so you can kind of like not have to stress about owning everything or having or keeping everything. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah. It's the luxury I have now to be able to do deals like that. Yeah. Do you ever talk about how much you got paid to get out of milk? I don't know if I've ever said like a figure. I mean, it was enough. I'm chilling. Yeah.

it was good okay but it wasn't like that it's not like fucking yeah i'm fucking Zuckerberg it's just like i think i kept because since i kept happy dad i think uh the deal could have been even like a lot bigger but yeah over under 10 million sorry i'm really intrusive with that uh under under yeah yeah pull enough that like i can uh go start my own venture start new life do everything but then have this other baby in the background for retirement. The happy dad thing. Yeah. Why did you, why are like, because I've talked to Kyle about this a couple different times on

pause and just in person. Why did you really decide where you were like, okay, I'm stepping away from this for real, the holding out thing? Because it could have, it could have still continued on to something and it is still doing something, right? It's still massive. But you at a point were just like, it was still doing this and you were just kind of like, no, I want to be away from it.

Yeah, I think like just differences like I think it was pretty like it wasn't just on my side too It was like the team. It was Kyle. It was all dumb. It was like I wasn't as into that like I just did it for a long time and Doing it to just make more money just started to be like I'm not gonna just be unhappy and keep trying to make more money So like what was making you unhappy though that I mean everything like living in a house with 10 people Yeah, the party scene like you always have to You have to be at those parties. It's like, you know the game. It's like you're making connections.

Like, if you go drink, you get better footage than if you don't drink. Like, it's like the whole thing was like an unhealthy lifestyle that like I was trying to still live in. Because I got to remember. I didn't just like wake up one day and was like, I'm out. I woke up one day and was like, yo, I got to make a change. And then it was like two, I stretched it like two more years and like try to hang on. And it just put me into a fucking hole. And I was like.

So even before you actually got out. you were already like i kind of want to get out of this for time yeah so like or like how do how do i like then i started doing more the clothing shit then i started it's like i started like we would even separate we had our own prank shows like i would go shoot my pranks he would shoot his pranks like just to like try to see how like after so many years can we still like do this our own way but i think it just got to a point where like it just made more sense for him to go sail the ship yeah did you ever have a fear of like if you left you would ever regret it yeah i mean dude that's why i was part of why it took two years man it was like

you kind of think like money aside you're like because you built this thing you're like it's like it was the hardest decision i ever made in my life sure yeah besides starting a show with you my heart's starting to hurt oh dude why how much money do you have in your bank account dude million billions no billions gonna have millions i'm pretty much a millionaire i like this shirt oh yeah that's that's fire apparently it's someone else's merch and also mad because i was like dude he should have coined that it's so good i got a thrift store and then somebody sent me the youtubeers like the guy who it is i forgot who it is wait is he big just fucking steal it forgot who it was so i'm like prank it's like what's a different word you could use premature millionaire

premature billionaire there you go yeah what's yours right tm before i don't want to be a billionaire before millionaire i want to be something even cornyer but it's like the same almost millionaire yeah almost he's tons of shit one one thousandth of a millionaire one one thousand of the weight of a millionaire. Yeah. Yeah, we can cut that out, probably. Yeah, sorry. We'll forget that.

We'll let that one, we'll let that one stay like in the ethos. Keep the full send payout in. We'll fucking cut that. Yeah. So did you, did you, so you, did you think you would regret it more than you do?

Like, before you did it? Did you have an idea like, I'm going to, like, and then you got to the other side and you're like, okay, is actually good? Yeah.

I definitely, I remember hitting a point of like the best comparison is like I remember when I finally got a dog like you know and I got chewy yeah and I wanted a dog for so long yeah everyone goes it's so much responsibility and this and all that and then you have a dog and you're like why the fuck did I wait so long this is amazing oh my god I kind of had that with like leaving and starting my own thing was like this like I just I remember I was just like really depressed so I just like was finally happy and I was just like well why did I wait what I didn't understand because I was in it for a while with you guys

traveling shooting cons and not not as long as you were obviously you were in it for fucking years and then i came towards the tail end with steve and all that yeah what what i didn't understand was like how come there couldn't have been like and maybe audience probably think this too like there couldn't have been just like doing like just doing different things and and like still being a part of this umbrella i think we kind of tried that okay that's what like the shithole series was and that's what like i but like we i think me and kyle had to be more like whether it was a weekly

meeting or like had to be more on the same page for that to work because like we weren't even being very transparent with fans like they were all like what is like what's happening? Yeah like they were left in like the dark and because we were like

figuring that out legally and whatever it's like so like I think like yeah there was totally a way it could have worked where it was like dude you go run the production of clothing and stuff or like we'll start a like more of a platform and just like get new creators and start new shows and like like like

yeah that's what we could have that's what I thought was what would have happened yeah like at least from my perspective I was like this because it was so so massive at one point that I was like that would be because I you know I met you guys and I was doing stuff forever before I ever met you guys and so my business mind was like that would be that would have been the play yeah and so I didn't understand that you know I mean there must there's obviously like whatever personal things you guys probably had things you know that you both were sort of like not sort of budging on and yeah i think for it to work we would have we would have been able to have like creative freedom on whatever we were doing like it like it couldn't have been like full sen is this um it's branded as

this like party brand but if you really look at nilk and everything we started like i think nilk worked because me and kyle did come from two different worlds we were kind of like there was like a character that each person could like uh connect to like yeah you know what i mean by that like we were we were very different especially we had a lot in common yeah and then when you had steve and you and selim and all these other characters it was like it grew that but uh yeah like i totally think that there's another universe where that could have been like i just leaned more into what i was interested in yeah because like the fans would have the the right kind of fans would have drew on to that too so yeah but yeah i mean dude i'm fucking i'm fucking i'm

happy with all that went through and said it's it's fucking it feels like forever ago now yeah it's weird yeah it's feel like i feel like i've known you forever and it's also then weird for me because i've been think about how many other years i did content prior was like they i've been doing this for fucking ever yeah but i love it though i mean like i don't do the same thing like kind of like you like you you you have that transition i don't do all the same things i did before i can i've done them so many times so where's where's like the future for you like is it is it the podcasting stuff or are you still trying to make shows? Is it comedy still based?

Or like you want to make more comedy stuff or? Honestly, lately it's been a, um, actually kind of downsizing a lot of, I think I would jump right back into like big company shit and a lot of overhead and fucking I just have ADD like 10 different big projects going and doing all that and like did that for two years and like I'm kind of like narrowing it down to a couple.

get that streamlined and I want to open up my time to like really dive into like I would say that like short you probably don't want to hear this Steve but like short and simple to me is like a passion project something I just like doing you know it's like what well because passion projects aren't like I'm not like oh

like I'm going to this is going to be a billion dollar project but sometimes I realize that when it's a passion you just actually want to do it becomes a big project so like I want to open up time to be like dude I've been wanting to finish writing this film and like direct a movie for that's on my list like i want to do that and like i'm just going to keep saying i'm going to do it unless i just do it so like this comic book thing i've

been working on like just like little things that aren't comic book he's like what the fuck i just like things that don't have like a business model of how does this make a profit in six months is more just like things you want to go do yeah let's talk about that it's really important you brought that up but do you think that you can be successful to any sort of degree that you've been, and I don't want to say that doing something that you're passionate about that you genuinely love, you can't be successful because I know that you absolutely can. But the landscape of social media now, and so obviously it's going to be the main driver and probably a lot of these businesses or things that you're passionate about is so different.

It's so incredibly different than when it was when like you had, we'll call it the most success on YouTube and views and all this kind of stuff. So because I fully agree, like I'm definitely at a point in my life where it's like, I just want to do stuff that I love, even if it's not getting the most views or getting the how it was. But do you think you can do that and still find this sort of like success? I guess it's like what are you identifying as what is success? Because there's that balance of,

oh, am I just happy or am I just doing things to make money? I'm definitely on the other side of that fence. Like that was a learning curve for me to, I think comparison is, I think I almost fell into that a little bit of like trying to create something at that level and also trying to like keep up with like, whatever kind of peak I've experienced, you know? And I'm just like, I'm letting go of a lot of that.

Like, even when we did the show and, like, the first video that got 10,000 views and had great comments and, like, a little cult following. It's like, being excited about that again is, like, sick. It's like, like, why am I going to be up sex? It's not getting a million views. Or, you know what I mean? I was just like, I had to learn that, though.

I'm not going to sit here and be like that was, like, overnight. It's like we came from such a, like, a massive fucking thing. Such a high. Yeah, it's a high, right? Yeah. It's like a, yeah, it's like a UFC fighter getting a belt and then like going back down the chain and losing it. And then like, having to figure out to just like be okay with that, you know. Yeah, it's tough.

Yeah. It's fucking tough. I mean, sorry, you're on the, you're on the bottom of the chain there. Well, like, I mean, we're over here interviewing my fat friend Lannon and then like nox over there interviewing Trump. So I wonder if like that's like, is that like, yeah, does that bother you? That's a good question. 10,000 views were interviewing my alcoholic friend. I think I made that joke in the last episode we did.

Yeah, because I got to talk to Trump. I took a few photos with him, met him a few times, you know, Mar-a-Lago and shit. Like, but what are you doing? Will you come do the short and civil show? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. It's kind of a bitch, I know. No, no, bro, you've, you've been there for me, you know, you guys welcome me with open arms.

You've, I'm absolutely going to come do it. Fuck yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no pressure, like, when, but, like, I think it'd be fun. It would nice to know, like, a week before. We like to, we'll do, like, little writing sessions. I think we can make a fun episode. Yeah, I'm down.

I'm 100% I've read out this bit where we tease you that would be really funny. That sounds terrible. I'll do it, I'll do it, I'll do it, yeah, I'll do it. I don't fuck the teasers.

There's no taser bit. I'll do it. I don't like that shit. You don't have like fear of your heart and shit. Yeah, I mean, I do. Obviously, I should too because the whole fucking steroid thing, but yeah, I'm healthy.

Yeah. Yeah, I'll take a tase. No, that was an actual thing. Why are you pushing out right now? Bring the taser. Yeah. One for me, one for you. We'll both do it.

No, No, we can, we should only do you. It would be funnier if we only did two. No, I'll bring one. You bring one. You guys should just shirtless wrestle. Wait, no, we should do an oil, like an oil tub. Oh, yeah.

What's it all the oil? What's the oil? Oil tub? No. Awesome. Let's do it. The internet would like that way too much. In Speedos?

No, no, no, no. Fuck that, bro. Why not? It would be funny. No, but I'll do the taser thing. You tase me. I'll tase you. No, I think it'd be funny if I got tased.

I don't think it'd be funny if I got tased. If we both got tased to be, or we do it at the same time. We'll just like, we'll get the gun that we shoot and it sticks in and then have you done that before? No, but I'll do it. I'll do it. And then it'll be funny because we'll see who like can't hold. Because you know, we do it at the same time, one, two, three.

I don't want to. And then I'll tase you so much that you stop tasing me. No. It'll be funny if you're the only one that got teased. And then I'll have a Navy still fucking jump down on the set. I'm fucking, uh, throw an elbow you. And then you guys fight. Okay.

I don't know. Steve, say something really funny. so that the people watching will like kind of like you dude i don't know i don't know what to say i'm only funny when i drink that's the issue i need to don't fall into that trap that's the fucking worst trap bro i know it is it is you know what is it about just that you just give less fucks yeah that is that is a real thing though it's a mental thing though i mean we all used to do that milk it was like the idea of like yeah it's not really on and then like i remember like i'm not like i love steve but like i remember going and filming and steve being like we got to stop and get a bottle

so I can fucking like it's like just like I need to fuck and I get it because I used to do it too the more you drink the more money would make essentially literally it would be connected to that like you'd come back and be like oh we got an episode boys like fucking god it was so crazy I remember I still remember like the premieres and all the shit that we would do like the crazy shit we do with Steve like fuck man that was not you by the way yeah no it's other Steve the grid this the Steve that's he's a millionaire bigger Steve yeah yeah the craziest I memories I think hotel room rooms in like Europe and watching like one of those like 15 mil pop drops happen in like

three minutes and I made zero dollars was nuts too yeah you got fucking ripped I got ripped fucked crazy but I was like it was the vibes were great just no doubt got paid and full yeah fucking vibes were paid and full how is no one became alcoholics from that I'm confused I was like not a single one like no one's an alcoholic from it I'm sure a lot of us have fucking I don't what's an alcoholic you know like a drinking issue and waking up shaking and shit. Oh, like a real alcoholic. Like needing alcohol. I don't think anyone got bad. You know, that is interesting, though.

Yeah, that is a good question, though. No one ever got, like, really dependent. But everyone shaped up, like, Kyle and all. Like, everyone got healthy and kind of like... I know, which is interesting. Because, like, you think like, most people end up drinking that often or, like, you know, for sport or for fun and they end up, like, having

real issues. Thank God. Because maybe that's a genetic thing. Some people just have that gene to, like, they're going to be an alcoholic if they go down that road. I have that gene. I think that's why I was a little cautious about it. I don't know if I was ever an alcoholic, but I was always told that, like, my family, big whiskey drinkers and, like,

maybe you're more afraid of it, yeah. Yeah. Because you did pull back. I remember you pulled back pretty soon. Yeah. Because I came around and then you were like, you were still doing it, but then it was like the very end of you doing it. Yeah.

Yeah, it was something to do with my dad's birthday or something I stopped. It was going to be for 30 days. And then it just turned into five years. I want to get drunk. Can we ever get drunk together? Yeah, a million subs. I'll get hammered with you. And do it.

Hammered episode. It's honestly fun, man. I hate to say it, but it is. It does make content like just like fun. You drink? I don't drink. I don't even like drinking, but like I would like even with them, I would drink just because it was like the vibes and we would just have fun. Oh yeah. It's just some of my. I don't regret any of it. I mean, it was fucking. No, no, no. I don't regret any of it. Some of my best content. I remember I went to, I went to Japan with Steve and we were this one we were like dabbling the live stream stuff and we were like both. You did? Yeah. I didn't know this dude he was he had a uh a mario hat on like a marri and i had a luigi one on and we were blasted in japan bro he was like he was like he was like he was crack head mar he was like going up to

he was like crack hit mar and he would like make a crazy voice dude it was the it was so much fun it was a next level fun in japan and people are just looking at us like who are these fucking psychos was it scary to be like drunk and wild in japan like another country no because dude japan number one is like the nicest place and everyone is so respectful and so and and Also, it's not weird being drunk at all because they all fucking drink. Yeah. If you go to certain areas where there's like bars, everyone's blasted. Like all throughout the day blasted.

It's easy to get like Japanese pussy. That's the easier thing than American pussy. You ask for a friend or for yourself? Friend. Oh, yeah, for a friend. Yeah, let's help out his friend. Yeah. I don't know.

I didn't even try. I didn't try anything like that. But I imagine it. I don't know. It just came to you. Was communication pretty rough out there? you really can't can you get around no no you'd be surprised a lot of like most of them speak some english oh yeah like they damn near all of them who worked at establishments also but then

again we were in toky so that's like they're super touristy spots all of them pretty much speaks some english but it wasn't hard at all and they're just so fucking nice and everything's so clean it's it's amazing and i drank like some uh some snake some snake venom liquor and that was yeah no but it was like some weird shot snake venom or snake blood um Snake Venom. Really? Yeah, to get you, supposed to get you

even more fucked up. That was, but that's when he was crackhead Mario and I was fucking drunk Luigi. It was a lot of fun. Are these clips online? Yeah,

they're somewhere. There's a, yo, can you pull up? Can you pull up, just go to YouTube? There's got to be a clip somewhere on YouTube.

We're a TikTok, but pull up, just type in crackhead Mario, Steve will do it. Dude, there's a picture of you and me when we got off a fishing boat and I'm so fat.

You know that photo? I'm wearing like waiters with my shirt off. I was looking at that the other day we were in Florida right yeah yeah Steve will do it I don't know I mean someone would have had to type this

you could probably be yeah Steve will do it have you met Steve I've never know you haven't met Steve I don't you spend the most of time in whatever anyways there's there's clips somewhere but it was honestly like some of the most fun I ever had filming content

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content most fun i mean anything to do with like the europe trip was fucking awesome in ireland my dad yeah scotland and bro you popped out for i was in ireland with you guys yeah you and you brought me chew i think yeah yeah you remember that yeah like get it out there and i know god oh yeah you didn't see this shit no dude that was such a great we're i'll never forget we're driving around these like weird sprinter vans and like everyone's just kind of like somewhat on edge because like you're up super late. It's like nonstop going to do stuff. Was it a tour around Europe in different videos in each? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. But I remember specifically in Ireland because we were there, look there.

Look, watch. Look. And he's so he's running around Japan. Like that one clip, that one clip, that one clip, Imagine he went to like random people and kept saying like, it's a me, Mario. And then he'd go crackhead Mario on it. Whenever you turn it back. He'd be like, what the fuck? Bro, it was, it was some of the most fun I ever had for sure. But in Ireland, in Ireland, I'll never forget, like living, like, not living, but when

we were saying in some random Airbnb, like, we're all sleeping on like the fucking floors and the couches and all this crazy shit, that shit was nuts to me, man. That was such a good time. showing up to like, like, were you there for, I don't know if it was Ireland. We just, like, said we're going to, like, bring merch to a random, like, park. Yeah, I was there. And we, like, shut down.

It was like. Yeah, they kicked us out. And the cops were coming to find us to kick us out because it was like a, it was like a mob created. And it's random in Ireland. And it's like, thousands of kids running across a highway and chasing the van. It's like the same peak as like streamers nowadays, like Kai and like Aiden and their level of like. Yeah. That's what it felt like.

Yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah. It was, it was, dude. So much fun, man. But you, I remember, I remember Dallas with you. I think Dallas was when, like, I started to notice.

I think we did a podcast then, too. Yeah. But that's when I noticed you were like, I don't really want to keep doing this. Yeah. Like, really. Because you would, you would sort of isolate yourself from everyone. Yeah. I noticed that a lot.

Yeah. Dude, I was just depressed. That's, like, it's easy way to put it. Not in like, I feel bad for me way. And it just like, now that I'm like out of it and I can look back, it was like, it's crazy. That's like the step one of depression is you isolate yourself. and then you like try new things try changing things you're trying to just like what'll fix

this problem yeah you're depressed but you're making money no and it's just say depressed that's what that's interesting about it like you being depressed at that time because like that was like everything was doing this yeah well so then why why did you feel depressed I don't know something was missing obviously you know like maybe it was like I don't know I think it maybe just like the repetitive repetitiveness of it like waking up and doing the same thing maybe it eventually became like kind of like being told to do something like say like it was like a certain prank we were doing that gave me anxiety or I didn't think it was funny and like I don't know it was just like just that yeah like or even just like for me like Kyle and

like the whole crew they were all like better at eventually the whole business side of like connections and like going to the club going to these dinners going to these things like it is such a big part of the business and i understand that and like i think that's where i like started being like fucking like if i don't want to go to this thing why do i got to go to this fucking thing you know like and uh feeling like you had to do something you didn't want to do basically yeah and then you times that by every day 3 and 65 days yeah and years and then it's like yeah you just and then you have money and you're like well what i'm not even using any of this money or this free i don't have freedom so it's like yeah yeah that's a real yeah that's a fucking

that's a crazy hole yeah it's weird and then like you said everything's going up everyone around you is like like like even like friends that start working for us and coming in everyone's enjoying the fucking success too and having a great time and then you're like not and then every fan every person sitting you up is like thinking like like dude you have the life and you don't feel like you do You just feel like it's like it is a perfect storm to just keep digging a deeper hole You're like oh yeah I have like the life I should just be happy and you're just not you know you just keep doing it Was it just as fun off camera as it was on camera like was it like was it like what is that like like I don't know we filmed so much that I think that very that blurred a lot like what like I don't remember being like yeah because I remember we would get up Because this was like at this point we were like driving this was like on a tour like we were driving like we were driving from

from like California to they were gonna drive to Florida. I think I got off in Texas and ended up flying back for some other shit I had to do. But yeah, it was, I remember it was like every day there was some sort of agenda to do something. And beyond the agenda to do the thing, there was all the vlog bits that we would film in between that would like, you know, I remember we're in Florida,

this isn't the same trip, but we're in Florida. And it's like, I'm waking up. And they're like pranking me to like come in my room, and like I get it because I get the jokes but at the same time I was still waking up being like you like what the fuck's going on I don't want this to be happening but they all planned it to happen

because it's funny for the bit so I'm you're always on you're always on like I'm sleeping and they're like they're like all right we're gonna get Brad we're gonna wake them up like they have the camera ready and I'm like I didn't know it was gonna happen but I'm obviously I'm saying yes all this regardless because I know I'm a part of the trip

I'm part of the video but yeah it's a lot you sign up when you go on the trip you're basically like which i think could work if you were like you had a life and then you were like for the next seven days were on and then you could go back to life kind of but like i think it was just fucking it was non-stop yeah if you're like scared pranking him how scary i would never do that i don't know if i ever like prank you i would never fuck with you no it was it was it was it was around the time because like when i came in it was really me and steve so steve would always be the one like kyle would be like go do this to brad and it was steve doing it to me or so that was like the

character of the show. You two were always like going out. There was like a war. Yeah. Yeah. That show was fun though, man. Oh, yeah. I really want Steve to be back on YouTube. That's like something that to this day really just bothers me. It's like, you know, it bothers me as much. I don't ever. Dude, how is it still a fucking thing? Like, I don't like. Yeah. I, I don't know, man. I mean, it's obviously he had, they had a, they had a legitimate like, uh, terms of service reason. But it felt, it feels still to this day it feels way that it feels deeper than that like there's some some personal thing i don't i don't even know like making a statement out of them or some shit like or i mean i have some thoughts that i just don't share on the internet but i think it's it's

like i think it's even it's like a little more i don't even know nefarious than that i don't think it's just because steve supported trump or was vocal about that i think there's like some there's some personal stuff that happened that like kind of i think made it happen to be honest yeah and i just don't i don't really talk about it i talked to steve about it every once in a while but i think this year i feel i feel pretty hopeful that he might actually get it back for some reason i don't know why i wouldn't be surprised do you have any like inside or any info on that or not on for the for the pod but later like is that something that's going on or there's a lot there's a lot more people who are kind of like trying to be like yo trying to

help him you know because it's it's like is that through like the dana trump yeah i believe so damn yeah i mean there's some fucking pull there yeah it's some real pull there i because like what was dana was getting appointed to like some sort of figure in like having to do with something with i feel like the internet or social media or something in regards to like the whole cabinet maybe that can help uh i just hope it does because the content like even for me filming content like the fact that I can't film with like arguably someone that you know I genuinely consider a friend yeah and it was when we film content is like the easiest thing in the world yeah just show up and fuck off and it was like so fun and enjoyable it just works yeah and it would it never I never felt

like oh I got to force this not once when I film content was I like I got to force this so I would like have him back yeah I mean like you guys that's like that's like gold in a bucket you got a fucking like rare as fuck and I it's maybe it's selfish to me because I'm kind of like yeah I want him back because I want to film content with him again you know and I know how much he wants to come back because he just like really loved making content because Steve is it looked like it took a part of his soul when they fucking took the yeah bro because he's so good he's you know he could have saved way more money everyone knows that because he gave away so much yeah but he's so good he's so good money wise that it's not about money like sure if he had a YouTube he'd probably

able to make a lot even more money than he's making now and he's doing really well still but I can tell he genuinely loved like doing that yeah yeah and so now he you know he has these other platforms to do stuff on but it you know it just it never hits the same as far as you too it's not filling that hole that he fucking yeah and it's sad i mean i don't talk to him that much but like like i've got that sense from seeing him like just like like that fucking hurts yeah yeah sucks i feel for man because he's he's he's one of the for me one of the most fun content careers i ever film with and i know how much he loves it do you talk to him recently yeah much Yeah, I talk to him pretty regularly.

You can't, like, have him come on here. He's not even allowed on other people's YouTube channels. Apparently, yeah, I've had him on a few times. You're the one that's been testing that the most. Oh, yeah, I'm definitely one test that. Because I'm like, it just feels weird. It's like, you know, obviously, like, we're not going to get on here and break any terms of service or make it a problem. Like, I don't want to make it any more of a problem for him or for me, obviously.

I don't want to get banned for doing it. But, yeah, I definitely try to see, like, well, can he be on here? I just think it's silly Have you got anything for doing that? No. I've spoken to some reps and they're like, hey, it can't be consistent.

It can't be often. You know what I'm saying? So there is like, that's so crazy. They do have them, they, you know, he's somewhere on a fucking list apparently,

man. He has to be. Yeah. For some fucking reason. But it is. It sucks because the thing that it was like, it's just having the URL on the physical screen, like on the screen that like,

if it was here where it says Brad and Steve show clips, it had the URL. But it's like, it's weird because, that same URL that you couldn't have on the screen, you could be on that URL filming content and upload it. So it was just,

but it was, but it is, it's a terms of service and that's their term and that's what it is. And you just say, okay, but at the end of the day, it's their company there.

It's like, I understand why it could happen, but it's like, it is stupid. Yeah, it's sad. Yeah. But it is what it is.

Where do you live in these days? He's in, he's in Florida still mainly. Nice. So Florida, I think he travels a lot, like he'll do the Gantler. do the Rubet stuff. I still do the Rubet stuff. We'll travel to like Cancun, Mexico and

shit. And he just, I know he just recently bought a place out there. I know he has a place in Nicaragua or out there. That was amazing. How is Mexico? Is it pretty beautiful? Yeah, it's amazing, man. He's still crushing it. It's just like I just want him to be able to fucking make content again, man. It's fucking sad. Yeah, man. I can imagine just getting just like, and also how how social media is just like, just becoming more and more and more and more powerful. it's like you just you're just axed off like the main platform really yeah even though all these other things like streaming it's just super effective and ticot to build an audience is like those are the waves yeah but youtube i don't think we'll ever go anywhere so it's just sucks to be like you know you can't

be anywhere near it that's fucking weird yeah well me and kyle have talked these amount of times about doing like a reunion episode get everyone but it just like doesn't feel the same if not steve can't come you know yeah it's not that's like it needs that if i mean if you're gonna bring out 9-0 and you and everyone it's like why can't they like you just did it or not ghost but whenever you're saying does replace Steve with him

no like no I'm here yeah he was fine so why don't do it I feel like I mean I'm talking out of thin air but I would imagine the NELC channel would be more aggressive to like a chance of that getting yeah because he like was on that platform

possibly I don't know and I know I think they they they um yeah they they screen all their videos before they post them because like obviously you guys have known like historically you've had problems with like monetization or like being able to strikes and shit strikes so i think because like they send the videos directly to youtube to say yes or no um that that's probably like they're they're going to be like what what's going on here yeah you know but i don't know man it's fucking i wonder what's going on with the i shot a prank with them in l a with who with uh with

kyle and all the guys when like a while ago Like, I don't know if this is public, but yeah, we shot like a Luminati prank. It was fucking awesome. Where's that? I never got uploaded. Oh, shit. Was it going to be for like a main channel? Yeah, yeah.

It was like a big production. I might have to check with those guys to see if like maybe there's a reason they're not talking about it. But I, and then I got worried because I thought it was my fault that it didn't get aired. Why would it be your fault? I would, I, did you fuck some, you fucked up or? It's a fucking. Again, can I say it and then a check if I'm allowed to keep this in? Sure, yeah.

But I had to play a FBI agent, and the whole thing was Luminati prank on this guy, to think he's at an actual Luminati party. And then at the very end, la, la, la, this whole thing. I think they talked about this on a pod with me. Did they? Yeah. I don't know where that video is. We, like, arrested, like, got them on the ground and stuff.

And then I was like, they told me he's wearing a disguise to get into the party, this mark that they're pranking. And I just had this one joke where I was just like, So I thought he was wearing a wig. I was like, is this your real name? Take your fucking wig off. And he was like, he was like, I can't. And I was like, take your wig off.

Like, he's like, I need to see your real identity. And then he takes it off. But then he has like patches of hair. Like it wasn't a wig. It was like a toupee. You got you, you had him take his toupee off? Yeah. I was like.

Is it like guys are bald. They put a toupee on it. It looked like they have hair. Yeah. But they told me he was like, I know. Dude, trust me. I was like, and then after I'm like, put it back on. Like, I was like, put it back on right now.

Put it back on. I'm sorry. And then, and then after Kyle was like, dude, you made him take his fucking toupee off? I was like, you told me he was in a costume. Like off camera? He was like, what the fuck? Yeah. I don't see that being like that big of the thing.

I have, I haven't talked to him better, but I always thought it didn't get uploaded because maybe like, like, maybe that was just like, because that was the ending. Like, there was no way to like cut that out, I feel like, too. maybe it came off to like mean or something i don't know i felt so bad i had to go over to them after they told them as a prank and shit i was like is there any other content like that that you guys made that over the years that you just you were like yeah we can't post this it's too far i don't think so not one like maybe like definitely vlog shit for sure like the the the paris air bamb that castle we had i don't know if we went to paris i didn't me and steve and

everyone got fucking blacked out was that the wine thing like what was the wine no that was catalina the wine oh no not that this was like blacked out and like destroyed an Airbnb like bad like

that cops came had to hide in a bush give them $20,000 to just like let us go and like fuck like like that did an air no I don't know I think it went on that like it went on like some

Patreon-type channel thing. You guys have to Catalina? Catalina. The wine. It's a paste. The wine trip. I can't freaking out of the coast from here. Yeah, it's like right off the coast.

The whole wine mixer thing, that's the whole thing. Wait, is Catalan, isn't Catalina Island? It's like right off the coast from here. Or somewhere. Yeah, we never, I never went to Catalina Island, I don't think. I thought, I thought, I don't know if you, maybe that was just Stephen Kyle in them. Like, it was a wine tour thing where like he drank a ton of wine. Yeah.

I did the first wine tour with them. Have you been there? No. I wasn't there. I know. I thought it was, I thought it was like on land. I don't know if we went to that. Because I went to that island just for like vacation ones.

I thought it was the first time I went there. Maybe it wasn't there. I just know, was there's some wine tour. I forgot where it was. Yeah. And then they read it again. I think we did it in Italy or something. What is the coolest sex story you got from milk?

You ever had like a fucking eight some with hot girls in your full of them and shit? Eight some? Yeah. I couldn't handle that. No. Maybe like a fought four some. Five some, three some. Oh, honestly.

No, no sums. No sums. some hot girls you're like maybe like a double header that was pretty cool oh but i don't know you ever had any five sums no no you ever had a double header yeah i mean nothing wrong with that yeah that's a that was a moment though in my adult life i was like oh i did that yeah yeah i was proud of myself there yeah it's it trust me you'll hit an age where you'll you'll get over it all i know you're excited when was the last hand job you got probably middle school You're kidding.

Nah, you're lying. I'm just kidding. He's like three weeks ago. That's as far as I got. No, I don't know. Honestly. I don't even remember ever getting that. Has social media, like, since you got a little bit more popular or just have you got any more pussy?

Or is that like a thing that happens for you? Dude, I've had your dick before. Multiple instances where I could have had sex with like really hot girls and I just like pussyed out. I got way too scared. I think that's good. I cried one time. When a girls about to have sex with me, I cried. I got scared and cried.

So I give him so many. I got you drunk. I was drunk and I got emotional and I cried. Wow. He should stay away from females. He's going to get himself in trouble. What? You can't say that.

No, I'm not. What? You just said you cried. That's not a terrible start. That's not a terrible start. She asked me about my like, she asked me deep questions and I fucking didn't like it. I was like,

you're like in a bedroom ready to do it. And she was like what? She's like, what's your darkest secret? And you were like, fuck, I don't want to talk about it. Like what?

The dark. I don't remember. I'm afraid of the dark. Please keep the light on. I have no idea, but I fumbled a lot, so no. Didn't you used to, like, poop in cupboards when you were a kid? I said pooped my dressers, my drawers. Why?

My dad cut my door and half to my bedroom because I was like, I was destroyed. I kept to destroy my room. You were like a farm animal, dude. I used to rip my wallpaper off my walls. Where'd you grow up? In Maryland. Okay. With Amish.

In the what? With Amish, yeah. No, that's a lie. Well, near them. You're trolling me. I didn't get raised by Amish, but with around Amish people. Where you had Amish friends No

They weren't allowed to talk to people out in the outside world Would you ever like bring your iPad over to them And fuck with them And show them the world and how fucking crazy it is No but that's a good idea Funny prank I feel like Nelt did that Oh yeah

And they like bring an Amish guy into like Yeah we interviewed him We interviewed him oh yeah and you did Yeah and me and Steinie like I raged on Stine on that interview I remember that Because he would try to make everything a joke about me. It's fine.

I'm used to that, though. It just made me, I was like, what the fuck? I forgot, I forgot the context, even I don't even remember. He lives out here,

right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's in Florida a lot too. But yeah, he's local out here. Have you ever looked at like,

do you have any like hometown or not hometown like childhood videos of you? Like, do you? Is that just the question? No. Well, that's not the question, but yeah.

I like did that the other day. It made me really depressed. I actually hated it. Like seeing videos from your childhood. should make you happy dude why didn't make you depressed no not the press but it's just like because time moves on it's just like you don't know what else relates to that can we uh no no no we can move on to the next no no i want to hear what i want to understand why your childhood made you depressed keep things in your mouth man why were you

he's getting nervous yeah you're fine bro dude put it down that's it that's you know i think that's empty there's some over there that you can get if you want a big bottle right Do you want a beer? Should I have brought you a bottle of alcohol? I don't have you been doing this podcast for it. Dude. Are you good? Yeah.

You can get some if you want over there. Go for it. Just get a little. A what? Whatever. There's a few things over there. Yeah, take a sip. He's going to do it off camera.

We'll have to cut it. Just don't put him doing that. Otherwise, you get demonetizing. No. I was going to. Yeah, go take a sip, bud. Yeah, I'll chill you out. No, I'm good.

I'm good. Go take a fucking sip. Dude, I'm good. I'm good. I'm chewing. I feel like you're about to cry. Like, this is like the girl in the fucking room over again.

Dude, right when you walked over. No, crying for people's most awkward. He goes, dude, my pants are too big. I'm like,

dude, you're fine. I can't, I don't like it when people cry around me. I should have text to you and you've been like, yo, change your pants. Dude.

Yo, prank them. Like, yeah, the first thing I says, like, why are you wearing pants that big? You can't be on the pod.

Yeah, sorry, well, you got to get some new pants. There's a Ross around here or something. If he cried around me, Have I ever cried near you? No.

I'll cry. You want me to fucking cry right now? Awkward. So what do you guys, what do you guys know? Is it just like for your pod? Is it just like trolling him the whole time or he trolls you? It's back and forth for sure. Yeah.

It's like I'm I'm fucking gay because I like care about health. Yeah, it's kind of mental health. It's just boring. And he's just like a walking mess that has. $400 in his bank account and spends it all on a shit coin and I have to like lend him more money and help him. That's not true. That sounds like that sounds like you just told the truth. That's not true.

I do fun shit. He doesn't do fun shit. I'm happy. We have a different we have a different dynamic of what fun is because your fun always leads to like crying on my shoulder at the end of the night being like I did too much cocaine and I missed you. That's not true. I never said I miss you. That's not true. Do you actually do cocaine often?

No. I okay that was fucking no I don't he doesn't he doesn't no I don't I really don't I do it like once a month okay so what's that so four times a month so every weekend but as much as my dad no I did get to every weekend and then I got scared is like oh my god what am I doing this is bad and then I stopped yeah and I lasted like a month stopping yeah but I haven't done it since it's been like a week why don't people like cocaine so much man do you think I've done it once you've only done a couple times only once I didn't like it my dick is been like it's been like it didn't work. I overdid it the first time. So I like never did it again. Did like 10 lines and fucking called my ex crying and called my dad and was like, I'm a failure and like fucking dude. I was like, when was this? This was like before now like, oh wow. MTV show kind of days and like, dude, I like took my shirt off with and like filmed a documentary and my friends were like stop filming us. We're like doing coke like. Dude, it was like a met. I like had my shirt off and was like, this is the downfall.

I was like fucking 18 Dude I was like it was fuck me up And then I like fought a friend To get more cocaine like I was like I probably shouldn't do this drug But I was just talking to someone about this Was it on our show? They're like I can't believe like you and Kyle

And the guys never got into like coke in those days And I was like I remember talking to Kyle about this I was like we couldn't Like imagine we added cocaine to everything we did We would be in prison or dead For sure 100% chance Like yeah The party go out

You just keep going all night. Yeah, that's what you said. But drinking and I don't know why, but we were actually able to just keep it going. Like we would fucking go till 5 a.m. most nights. Yeah, I couldn't believe it, to be honest. And there was a lot of situations where it's like, we'd also be not filming.

And I'd be like, damn, people are still doing this. Yeah, this is just for fun now. Yeah, like, they were just still drinking. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, the filmer would be drunk with you. Yeah. Like, I think you should be like rolling, dude. Dude.

There's so many, so many funny moments. What do you think the best moment you've ever had with Nelke was? Fuck. That's hard. Because I always wonder, was it more, like, did you enjoy it more, have more fun before it started to get really like, oh, we got to do this? Obviously, yes. The answer is yes, because I know, I know enough about you that you got to that point.

You're like, fuck, I have to do this. But I wonder if it was like before it really started to become, for lack of a better word, mainstream like when everyone started to really get on yeah yeah the first taste of success was like probably because for both of us we like been grinding at it for a long ass time and then it like finally because it like we were we were broke until we were like rich you know like it happened like that and it was like so i think uh like a one i've always brought up is like we did this like pop up in our hometown like Toronto and was like our dads came and shit and like they are at that point at least my dad didn't like understand like what we were really doing like still was kind of like

go get a job to fast go kind of shit yeah and like he like I think we like it was like 10,000 people showed up it's like a line around the whole fucking block of the city like we sold like hundreds of thousands of dollars with a merch like it was just like my dad like I remember my dad was like tiered up and shit and like obviously as like a son you just that's what that's like your goal it's like fucking that's like those moments stand out to me the most like first like being like damn it's working or getting that acknowledgment kind of shit but but no there's i mean there's a hundred fucking memories man getting to meet cool people that you look up to in the industry was always sick too yeah like i mean i still experience that like yeah me too like we were just

talking about chito and shit like it's like meeting any of these people that i'm like are fucking sick people is yeah like it's probably my favorite part of the business that's the best part i mean i think that's why i love the podcasting so much because you get to talk to them and you get understand like how they got there why they're there that's anyone you're interested in exactly yeah exactly which I always wanted to do this one with you because we did want a time ago but it was like in it and then I obviously I you know I knew of enough of the movement of you know the business separation the I don't want to say friendship separation but you know there's that time of like people kind of like distancing each other from each other and obviously I was

aware of it all and I was just always outside looking in even somewhat kind of like obviously I was in the content, but even so much as a fan, because I would also, I'd also enjoy watching it too. So I was like, I was always wondering, like, how did that go? Like, did you, did, did you maintain, like, at least, let's ask right now, did you maintain or have you maintain a friendship with Kyle? Yeah, I think it's had, it's like, like, we've had times where we don't talk for a while. But that's like guy shit, though. Yeah, like, now we also, like, just live on other sides of America. Yeah. Yeah, I just talked to him last week some fucking like girlfriend shit fucking yeah i think it's like it's definitely like all

positive and good yeah honestly it would be nice to be a little like more closer to them like i i've been thinking about that lately where it was like uh because like you start thinking like damn we spent a lot of time together you know like we were like best homies yeah kind of crazy so especially when you get older and you like At least for me, like, I don't have a lot of fucking friends. And it's like, that's something I've been looking at and like, whether it's new people in my life or whatever. I think I'm always kind of just friends with who I work with.

I relate to that. You know what I mean? Like my employees become my fucking friends. And then that's my life. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, the friendship thing is interesting in social media, man. It's a, it's, because everyone's so like on their mission of like whatever they're doing

and whatever happening or is working now for them. They kind of move in that direction. Yeah. It's almost like, it's very hard to maintain like true friendships, I'd say, in this space. Yeah. I think that's something that not a lot of people, I think people know about, but like, I don't know a lot of creators talking about it because it is, I've, if I look historically, it's, it's, it's, I've had a ton of interaction with a ton of people that I would consider friends, but like making like real friendships is so hard. Yeah. Because everyone's constantly, you know, onto the next thing, onto the next thing.

And then you meet people new and it's like, they look at you as if, if you're somewhat established, it's almost like, oh, what could I get? get here and you feel that and you're like fuck what are they getting from you what am i getting from them it becomes that so quickly yeah and like and if they don't have anything to give you and it's just a friendship but they know so much about you and you know nothing about them it becomes this like weird it's just like no matter what it's going to be this weird kind of like fandom type like it's hard to build a friendship when you're in a position like us for sure i think when you're in this industry you need friends outside of that they don't make content like all my friends None of them make content.

But then he has nothing to relate about. Like friends that are musicians or something are like in the same world. Yeah, I get it. But a lot of times what happens, you notice with that because I agree like that would be like my initial thought. But what would happen is then people go like if they spend enough time with you and they can like either see your lifestyle or they like certain parts of what you're

able to do with your life, then they're like, oh, maybe I want to get into this kind of thing. And then you kind of like turns into this like, hey, let's film a video here. Let's do this little bit here. And then it kind of like compounds and compounds. And it's like, wait, what's happening here? Is it still a friendship or is it like now a transactional thing? Dude, I've had that happen so many times.

Like six months into like, damn, it's like, person's chill and cool. And then it's like, I mean, it's probably the same thing like being in our position and trying to start a relationship. It's like you don't, like, you got to like, yeah, it makes everything complicated for sure. Yeah. It's pretty lame. It's probably like we were just saying what the best part is. That's like the worst part.

That is definitely the worst part of this whole situation. It's obviously such a massive blessing to be able to even like sit in this. position and say that but it's true it's fucking true man yeah i think that's why a lot of like successful people are lonely they either like keep on they keep a relationship with the people they grew up and stuff or they like i think that's where i fucked up i definitely like even family i pushed like everything away and just focused on a dream and then like got to the end of that dream and was like tried to rebuild and realize it's like damn that shit it's weird it is it is it is it's so accurate what you're saying and it's weird though because like

that's also what it takes to be able to get to that dream it's like you're a little crazy you can't have it all it's such a weird like dichotomy of shit where you're like man I want to have these friendships and I want to be close to even even sometimes like you said family like close friends of you know childhood and it's just kind of like it all kind of washes away it's it's very like it can be very lonely yeah it's fucking it's it's weird because like like you can't have small talk too like you've been in those rooms it's like when we always to just hang out it's like everyone is talking about content ideas and business business it's like we're all when you're in it you're in it and like i can't just sit and talk about the weather for

fucking two hours with like yeah my fucking cousin eric or some shit you know like fuck eric like i don't yeah and for me always family would be like like like you know like cousins and stuff would talk about well because they've seen me here oh how is it what is this person like it's all about you yeah yeah like what is that and what is this and you know when you did this with that person what are they like and it's like damn what the fuck and that's your downtime you're supposed to be decompressing and now you're just like yeah like i feel like i'm still making content meeting greet or some shit yeah it's like yeah i remember going in for christmas and my mom was like like like asked me if i can help her make like a ticot page for her business with some shit and you were like fuck you

fuck now i got to help my mom with some shit dude just help your mom yeah i mean i'm kidding i'm yeah i mean i'll help my mom bro no i was making a joke yeah i don't know if you were i feel like that was a real thing where she was like can you help me then you're like Mom, fuck. No, she never actually, we never actually wound up doing it when I was home, but, uh, if I buy you a plane ticket, will you go help her with it? I can't, I got to run my, the short, like, I get short and simple going, so. You stressed?

Oh, yeah. You know, he has some, you have some funny, like, like, one take clips, like, they go viral. Really funny. The one hit wonder guy. No, but that, but that's, like, content now. Content now is, like, short form shit, single shot. Yeah. You have some funny bits.

I forgot when I saw one recently. It was like, I don't know if someone came up to you. You're like, you're like reactions are always so good. Dude, I think he's like insanely talented. He plays like he's not,

but like, he's talented as fuck. No, we're not. I'm not. So we aren't, but I'm not, we interview like actual comedians,

like stand-up comedians and shit. Yeah. And they're like, oh my God. Like that's a like a comedian. Like they're funny. Like they're nonstop. Yeah,

but it's a different thing. What you're good at is a different thing. Different type of comment. Yeah. I thought it was a fucking character when I first met him. I thought he was the first time I ever met him, he came in my warehouse in this shitty little car and he's like, can we go get a coffee? And he's like, I'm like, sure, buddy.

Let's go get a coffee. We go get a coffee. And he's like, just even reversing your care. Just you. And I'm like, I'm literally looking around like, oh, he's got a camera. He's fucking with me. There was no camera. No camera.

It's just who he is. Yeah, but that's why it works. It's why it translates. That's why the content's good. Yeah. Hoop. Fuck. dude this game's harder how the fuck do you succeed in this game how long have you been doing this

actually how long have you been doing content not the podcast fucking long 15 years maybe 13 years did you start by editing your own stuff like you were an editor too you did everything production editing i from the very beginning yes i did vlogs and i would edit my own vlogs but a lot of those i never posted because i hated them and then i got to a point where i was able to because i had Instagram before I started YouTube, I had enough money to pay someone to help me film YouTube videos. Because I was doing really well before I ever started YouTube with coaching, online coaching and train, because I was a personal trainer. So the first thing that did really well for me before I ever even touched YouTube at all, zero ad sense, nothing, no videos.

I was a trainer and I was a coach. So I made a lot of money very early on selling like coaching to people basically all around the world. And any success of content, did that help stream more clients for that i kind of i kind of stop focusing on that business and kind of just focused on content because it it you know it double tripled it you know and then other other business that i created around it were more successful without me having to like have hands on all the time time on it yeah yeah because like coaching it was like i was i was 100% like i was at my computer at least fucking like six times a day answering emails going back and forth with people about like their programs like doing real coaching stuff like really helping people with their diets and

their training checking in all this kind of stuff i was doing that like every day and and it was worth it was it was great money but it got to the point where i was like oh i have to focus on this content if i want to grow this beyond me just like doing the work yeah you like outsourced early on i was able to yeah because i was able to make money before i started filming youtube videos that's that's where like i feel like if someone wants to do youtube that's where like you know how they say like the only one percent succeeds or wherever the fuck that saying is like yeah A lot of people, I feel like, that don't have those resources to, like, outsource other people get bored of, like, the editing. Like, everything's fun, but the editing is not fun at all.

It takes the fun out of it, like, sucks the fun. Yeah, what fucked me up was, like, I could have started posting the video sooner, but I, it worked out perfectly because the timing is everything in life, which is something you kind of just can't force. Yeah. But I would film, you know, I had the little camera and I would film myself. And so I did a ton of that. I must have filmed, like, 10 vlogs. and I was editing them and I was like, I hate the way I look.

I hate the way I sound. Fuck this. I'm not posting it. It's hard to edit yourself. Until you finally did saw a response and like, no, so until I had someone else film me and the person who was filming me at the time. I remember just like I was using because like when I was filming myself,

I felt just awkward, you know, first trying to learn how to do it. And then I look at it on the edit. I'd be like, I sound stupid. I don't like the way my lip moves. I felt dumb.

Yeah. And then I found someone to film me because I was able to pay. And at the time, time i think i even incentivized the filmers i was just like yo we can just split the ad sense i don't even need all the money i just want to i just want to kind of force myself to do this um and at the time not all people were doing that no it was all vlog yeah which was a blessing because i again i couldn't have done that if i if i needed the money and i didn't need the money because i had the other source so i there was there was a blessing there for me but it got to the point where i was able to do the content

the way i wanted to do the content which was me filming like filming me workout and then talking that's essentially what my content was about what I'm doing, why I'm doing it, why this is important, these movements, et cetera, like, and then some strength feats, like showing like how strong I was, et cetera. But it was because I had used the camera guy as like someone I was just talking to. So a lot of my videos, like I had to learn to start talking to the camera because in the beginning I was just talking to like, if you had a camera, I was looking at you talking to you. And that was the only way that I felt comfortable like starting. And then when I started posting those videos, I was like, oh, I can do this. And then I eventually like move towards my eye line towards

the camera. But still, if you watch a lot of my older videos, I'm like, the camera's here and I'm, like, staring at the person filming. Because I had a good relationship with the person filming. It allowed me to, like, feel more comfortable. Were you the part of, like, the first wave of, like, fitness? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. That was like the, who else came up in that time? Would have been Christian Guzman. Um, Simeon was doing videos then. Steve Cook was doing videos then. Matt August was doing videos then. Richard Piano was doing videos then who was he was he was probably arguably like the number one guy um and this is youtube this is youtube fitness and then you know there was like other bullshit fitness stuff which was like

I call bullshit in this stuff was like six pack abs bullshit like where it was just kind of like a sales funnel to sell like a program which everyone sold programs anyways but that was like felt a little more mainstream but the main people doing like cool fitness vlog content Mike Rashid was one of them as well but the main guy was Rich Piana who was like really killing it because he came from like a supplement company background who had high production and then he like just converted to his own stuff like I can hear that is that like out the really red face uh he's got tons of tattoos veins and red tons of tattoos really big dude like look like he had synthal in his arms and shit earrings or something I don't know if he had pull a picture rich Piana I think I'm new

kind of looks like a shark he still bought it did it no he's dead He died? He died. Rest and peace, Ridge. What happened? Dick to ball ratio. Yeah, that's Richard.

Oh, yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Yeah. He's one of the OG, like, really started to kill it, really started to crush it. And I met him at that gym there. Go back to the other photo. That one? At the gym on the right. That's the goals of North Hollywood where I was filming a lot of my early content.

Were you friends of them? Yeah, good friends with him. Really? Good guy. Really good guy. Did he pass away a while ago? Google, when he passed away. I think it was like, fuck, man, that's actually insane.

Seven years ago, maybe now. Have you ever been to like a normal? How long ago was that? Fuck, dude, so young. 46. 46. I mean, he really, he really went hard, though, like on everything. He went hard on the gear.

He went hard on the, you know, I think he did extracurricular, you know, I don't know if he was doing cocaine. I think he was doing a lot of stuff. Yeah. But he really lived that lifestyle he would talk about like fucking, like, a hundred percent on everything he was doing. Because you have your own gym Do you still go to like other gyms

Like normal gyms like the 24-hour fitness And Wooden Hills Not as much anymore Not as much anymore Because I go to those gyms It's just like It will be just like random kids Who'd be like

What the fuck? Which is dope But it's like Then I really don't get a workout Yeah You know Does you ever do that for you though too Or people pretty chill?

It did that for me For the first like four years Which really did destroy my workouts Because you know Naturally in that space I'm like I don't want to be like Gil, I just got to work out. And I would, so I would give a lot of my time and my energy.

And then it would just kind of turn into like, oh, sort of a meetup. Because if I talked to one kid, another kid would want to talk. And it's fine, but it did fuck my workouts for sure. And there are like for four years from, because we opened in shit, I think 2017. And when he passed. How was the transition? I know you switched gyms, right? You moved out of that new location.

Yeah, we have the one in Encino right now. We're working on opening one right now, actually, in Miami. Should be open in June, July. or August, depending. That's sick. It should be dope. Whoa. Yeah, I can get a work out there.

And then I'm also now I'm eyeing Scottsdale. That's news to the audience right now. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, Arizona. Yeah. With another big YouTuber. Did you ever put one in Maryland?

No. No, that's fucked up. No, I don't know. Maryland was never on the lay. It's like the big cities for me. Not the Maryland's not a big city. It's not. I was just.

Yeah. It was just more like I was thinking like, you know, Arizona, Vegas, Texas, Miami. And, like, the last would be, like, the East Coast. Yeah. Is the business model that was kind of like a, like, a break even, you're happy and run your business? Or it's actually, like, a lucrative. It's, it's more lucrative now.

It's way more expensive. Obviously, this location in Encino, because it's on Ventura. Yeah. It's like, prime location in Encino, like, central the valley. Yeah. But it's, for me, it was never, like, I just need to make a bunch of money from this. It was like, I want to have a cool spot to film content. Other people come film content at.

Yeah. You know, and obviously work out as well. So I was never, like, make a ton of money from it. Like, it does make decent money, you know? I think, I know for certain in Miami it will make a lot more money just because there's way more people who are like so into working out. And it's 10 times cheaper. Like, like not even fucking comparable, how much cheaper it is to have a space in Miami

than fucking L.A. Is it, so I haven't looked into it too much, but I just signed up for Equinox. And, like, their whole business model is pretty interesting. but the like are you kind of like in between that when it comes to like the luxuriness of it or like the business model of it the pricing of it like are you kind of like in between a like you know normal 24 hour fitness to like a equinox yeah it's pricing is kind of comparable not to equinox is way more expensive pricing a lot yeah you know like what is equinox a month like 400 it comes to like four or five grand a year for for all the gyms we're like 120 a month it's not it's not crazy

Granted, in the space in Miami that we're opening up is going to be like more comparable amenities wise for sure because we have more space. So we're going to have like the in four cold pludge next to a hot tub so it could be like in a community area like male, FEMA can use it with like full bathroom, sauna, steam room, everything. You're creating the hang too. Yeah. Yeah. But it'll it'll be more of what I've kind of always wanted my gyms to be and just, well, I can't say always because in the beginning I just wanted a space where I could film content straight up. Like I wasn't even originally being like this is going to be a public gym. It was just going to be a gym that I filmed because I was getting kicked out of other gyms. And then I was like, well, why not have this a place

where other people can come? Because I've been supported by all these people. Might as well try to make it like a place where everyone could come. Well, you should be the first ever gym that puts like a gun range in your gym. Imagine that. Gun range? Yeah, you have like a gym and then maybe if we'll want in Texas, we'll have a gun range. Well, yeah. There is something about mixing businesses like that. I think it's so cool. Yeah, you get to lift weights and then go shoot guns. I've always thought. I don't know. I'm having a lot of high testosterone guys in a gun range. It might be a fucking problem.

You know, off of a pre-workout. I mean, a bar gym would do well, I think. That'd be cool. A bar gym? Wow, yeah. That'd be sick.

If it was like a, it'd have to be the right atmosphere, maybe a sports kind of bar. You'd like watch the fights, watch the stuff. You'd do all three. Bar gin gun range in one. I don't know if you can mix the,

not a good gun range in the bar. They can't get hammered at the bar and then go shoot the guns. I think that's like a completely, no matter where you are, you can't do that. I think that's like, yeah.

No, you can't. That's 100%. I've always wanted to mix like vintage with coffee. Because like I always like, for me, like I love grabbing just a random new vintage tea. That's a great idea. Don't say that's a great idea. You go get a coffee. Imagine there was just like a simple rack of teas and this in like every once in

while you see a tea and like they're not just like $20 T's like sometimes it's a vintage $400 M&MT that you're like, it hits for you and you're like, I'm going to buy this $5 coffee, but I'm going to grab this $200 M&MT. whatever and like so but you would say vintage you mean like new teas you mean like the style of the spot is like vintage no like uh like people that go like vintage like it's like curated vintage so like um whether it's like band teas like tees i think literally don't even get into like hoodies and jackets and i think it's literally just a rack of teas um and then you so then also your instagram doesn't have to just post coffee it's like it can be like the the vintage of

the day oh you're talking about vintage clothing and coffee yeah oh that's a good idea so like i just thought of like someone's still getting my coffee yeah probably yeah but i was gonna try to do that this year but where would you open up something like that though oh south bay that's like dude like south bay like where i'm living now is like there's so many rich kids it's like a rich area and there's nothing for them there there's no sneaker store there's nothing cool and i'm like and i think and like i lived there i would love it i was that's down by palace verdes right yeah yeah yeah yeah the area's fucking nice i love that area honestly i try to not to talk about it too much. I've, I've had, like, locals, like, come get pissed at me

because, like, they're, like, they don't tell people about this place. They don't want, no one, no one knows about it. How long have we been here? I didn't, I didn't, I knew about, I don't think I knew, like, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa, Redondo. Like, I didn't find out about any of that for, like, six years, seven years. Yeah. Never even heard of it. Yeah, you have to pretty much, like, like, have a reason to go there, like, some girls, like, let's go on a date here. And you're like, oh, and you're like, what the fuck? This place is nice. Yeah. No, it is really, nice that area is fucking amazing man it looks like you're in like the coast of italy when you look at pv yeah it's fucking crazy what is the nicest beach on all the is like newport hamilton

oh fucking next to newport what's that one laguna laguna i mean that looks like a fucking picture frame when you go there yeah that's i mean they made that whole tv show about that fucking place laguna beach real high what what i was thinking something else real house housewives of laguna beach what a that's one that's one i used to watch that my mom and my sister. Is that a real thing? No, like the real housewives of something? I don't know if it was a Laguna Beach. Beverly Hills or something.

They definitely had Laguna Beach one. I had to. Laguna Beach is dope. Has that hot girl in it, the one mom? She's like, when I think of a milf, I think of her. The brunette from like, have you ever cracked the milk? What was it?

Definitely slept with someone that's had a kid, but I wouldn't, you know what I mean? By like, you don't know if you'd call it a milf? Like, a milf in my eyes is like 40, 40, 50 years old. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. Which I haven't. I don't think I've experienced though.

Have you? You definitely have. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. What's the oldest you've gone? Fuck. This must have been when I was like 24, maybe like 43.

Really? Yeah. Was it a good experience? Yeah. I don't complain about it. Did she pick you up? No, no, no, no. No, wait.

Wait, fuck. Yeah. No, yeah, yeah, because I, yeah, yeah, she did. Dropped you off. Yeah, it dropped me off, too. That's hilarious. Yeah, at some point. That's pretty funny.

I could see that happening to you. I had sex with a 32-year-old. I lost my virginity to a 32-year-old when I was 17. It was awesome. Okay. Well, that's something else. Wow. The prostitute.

When you were 17? Yeah, my older brother got me a prostitute when I was 17. Wow. It was like a 32-year-old. Okay, you good? Was this in Maryland? Yeah, that was the best thing ever, huh? Yeah.

This was in Maryland? No, it was in Virginia, and he had a apartment. You want to talk about it? Yeah, it was sick. You put down a, my brother put down a plastic sheet on his bed. We actually, we did a train on here. We all three, it was me and my brother and his friend. I swear to God, I don't know how to prove this to you.

So you did this when you were 17 the very first time? My brother's friend had a buck and massive cock. I don't know if you're going to want to like three minutes. I swear to God, I went last. There's no way you're talking to 17. You're also describing someone else's a dick and you're saying that you went last. my older brother's friend's dick it was like not weird all we all took turns so you watched it no no no no no no no no no no no it wasn't like that well you saw his dick so that's no i heard it and i also

you heard no she brought up the the his the image of his dick out loud because when you first said it it sounded like you watched it happen and you're like okay i'm going no we all went individually in the room my brother went first and then uh i went second and then he went third my brother's friend and he just kept going for like 30 minutes and then you went after him and then I went again and then she gave me head in the bathroom

it was awesome this is how you lost your virginity yeah I acted like she asked me if I was 18 and I lied and I said yeah and then I was like struggling to find the condom because I forgot where my brother told me he was gonna put it and then I was like I was hard and then like I got soft

so I was covering myself up butt naked and I was like trying to grab the condom and then I asked if she could put it on with her mouth and then she said no how'd you know about that? I was like my bad it's a porn and then there's no way this is a real story I swear to God and then I put it on

and then we did missionary and then I lasted like probably like 10 strokes and it was overwhelming it was like gushy and warm and overwhelming it was like a lot of vagina it was a big of fucking vagina wow yeah and I was fucking going like this missionary and then it lasted like 10 pumps

and then I had orgasm inside of her but with the condomum but I didn't tell her I did because I wanted it to keep like going it was fucking like 10 seconds I was like fuck so she was like saying harder so I was like okay and then I just kept going and then it's like flopped out because you know i already had an orgasm yeah and then she was like and then i faked the orgasm she kept saying harder and i was like oh oh did she come

there's no way there's no way this is a i'm fucking bamboozled right now it was awesome yeah that's how you lost your virginity i swear to god yeah it was sick holy fuck dude what was the second experience i'm still shook bro it was sick i don't know How old were you when you lost your virginity? Oh, man. I think it was 16, yeah. 16. 16 in a car, back of my car.

Nice. I think I've told the story before, but a cop had stopped us. Really? No way. Yeah. So I didn't finish. Yeah, I didn't finish. Because I didn't know, I didn't know the rules.

Like, in California, you can't be in parks after dark. Yeah. And so I didn't know. I just took her to the park. Yeah. And then she was like, this first time I ever got head, which was great. Fucking amazing. And then I had an Impala, 96 Impala, SS.

and had her in the backseat and it's all I just remember it's all foggy cloudy and then I just remember the big ass spotlight of the cop car hitting the back of the car and just heard of whoop and I was like oh fuck but I had a stepdad who was a cop

so he was like always be respectful to police officers and that's the number one thing I remember because I was so terrified I was like I'm about to go to jail I didn't know what to think yeah he gets us out and I'll never forget it was so weird because this this chick was older than me I was 16, she was probably like 17, 18.

Yeah. And he put us to both different sides of the car. And like, mind you, this whole time, like, I basically, I had pulled my underwear up, but I had my pants still down around my ankle. Yeah. During this whole conversation. And he's asking the girl, like, basically was this consensual? And I was like, well, what the fuck?

And he comes to ask me, like, is he like essentially like, are you R wording this chick? I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, no, this is like my girlfriend. I didn't say what the fuck you're talking about the cop I said no no this is my girlfriend she's my girl asked her and then he like asked her so I felt was super like kind of like terrified because he implicated something crazy and so why would you just jump to that I have no idea he's no idea maybe I was like taller bigger than the chick or I don't know what the reason was but that was just for like a short moment but it terrified me because I was like whoa this is like am I going to go

to jail I'm thinking like I'm screwed and then he's like all right get you you know why you can't be here blah blah fuck off and i just i'll never forget this is the thing like seared in my mind i remember like reaching to go shake his hand to be like thank you officer because i remember my stepdad told me be respect for cops he was like i'm not shaking that fucking hand get the fuck out of here and i remember i'll never forget that like look on his face he was just like the fuck fuck fuck off like i don't know where that's been yeah that was but that was my first time that was fucking yours was i don't know who's worse here but it was high school yeah i'm not even telling my story no fuck well i was yeah high school yeah high school

16 yeah well what's yours oh fucking just he's like missionary i'm like yeah just like just like yeah some chick when i was like 15 and uh i remember i experienced like everything in one night yeah like fingering hand job going down blow drop that's awesome everything and then i remember after i never came either i always remember that yeah i think i just like stopped i was gonna i was gonna But I, you know, that cog bogg me. How are you not coming? I remember always having a thought of like, do, when I look back at it, like, the worst sex, like ever for sure. Like, like, like, like, worst at giving sex.

I remember just thinking I could, like, am I hurting this person by, like, putting my penis in them? Like, I remember thinking out, it's kind of scary. It's like, but I remember, because she's done it before. She, like, grabbed my face and, like, squeeze it. She was like, that was lovely or magically. She tried to make it, like, special for me. And I'm sitting there and she's like, pushing my head. And I'm like,

fucking thanks. Like, yeah, I don't know if I like that. Yeah. I was like, don't touch me. What's the fuck? Especially when you're done.

You're like, oh, don't touch me. What's the fuck? Where's my boys? Yeah. Damn. Yeah,

not as cool as our story, but no. Shut up. It was a four way. Wait, what? No, I'm kidding.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Yeah, dude. Yeah, you probably take the cake on the craziest fucking first time. If it's fucking real.

Yes, it's real. I don't know what's real with you. I don't know how to prove this. Because it's not like I could call a hometown friend. I don't talk to anyone anymore. That just seems insane to be like first time.

And then to even learn about what's going to happen and you're like, yeah, fuck it. I'll do it. It's crazy for first time. I bet you'd be surprised how many people's first times are prostitutes. You think so?

I've just like. Probably nowadays, man. I hear that a lot. And like, especially more like, I think like, just like nerdy. Like people that like just,

I don't know, had a hard time getting girls. They like hit us. certain point where they're like they just pay for it or something yeah i think but yeah i don't know fuck it i guess yeah this guy fucking ran a train on chick for his first time did you have to pay for it did you guys all split that or i don't think it i don't think it might have been an actual prostitute i think she was just like a i think it was just a girl that like loved having sex damn no that's fucking that was like a young lily phillips i guess yeah it was sick it really was

what's going on with that that's the chick that banged like or she's going to bang a thousand guys or some shit yeah she banged a hundred guys wow yeah and films it no stony just did a bit with her the other day i guess but he said that he didn't hit i don't know how much i believe that's not true you 100% i did the math on my phone when i heard that like how many if you you'd have to have sex for 24 hours like how 100 for a thousand yeah no she didn't do a thousand she did 100 she wanted to do with i don't think i think i did the math and I was like it literally won't work like I don't think it's possible a thousand yeah yeah do they have to not I would think they would have to or else then what you just dip a dip a thousand dixon like it's just a weird I can't believe this is even like a fucking

conversation it's like crazy that that's even a thing no hey that was a weird I did an interview with her just like I was just surprised that she just like had zero I seen that was that on here or is that it was on here was it no care I mean we did one with her on we were sitting here but we doing for steonies as well when she was talking to kansas owens yeah but she just has like she just does not care you know she's like you just described a chick who just really like sex apparently yeah but i don't know if that's true i it's there's too much like invested in it like there's too many ways it's making money from it like it's kind of like yeah is it really just for that or it never is yeah i got i heard her say something but like her family supports it all and like

And, like, when I hear that, then I'm like, oh, that's like, that sounds like a scary dynamic. Well, I don't think that's even true, to be honest. Like what, I hope it's not. Because if it's true and there's money involved, that's like, you're like hoeing your fucking daughter out for fucking, you know what I mean? It's fucking weird, man. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't have to be like an attention thing, like 1,000 percent. Like, she's like, deep down, like regrets it. She's like, fuck I went to, like, well, she's already in so deep now into this. That she's like, would you do it? Would you smash? 100%. Yeah, he's hot.

Would you? Oh, no, not for me. What? I think she, you should make that happen. I feel like she would totally let that 100%. Yeah. And that sounds like right in line with like how you're good with it being. You want to hit that?

Dude, 1,000%. Yeah, that'd be awesome. She's hot, actually. All right. I'd be like, her hits and shit. Does she have like a sign up for him probably? No, but apparently she just like.

Whatever you would do a tit. I mean, this is how she did it. She just like crowdsourced it. So it's like she didn't. I'm telling you, bro. She literally made it seem like she does not give a fuck who it is. There you go, buddy. I would like sign up and do it with other guys.

I just wanted to like... Well, how big are you hard? Four inches. You're not. Lie a little or something. Not four. Come on. I swear to God, I'm four inches rock hard.

Solid steel. I'll show like I'll prove like I. No, no, no. I know you should know if I've seen, dude, please do not prove it. Let's see where you get to monetize so fast. Yeah, I won't. I've seen your dick before. But I'm regretfully.

You've got to own it. You know what I mean? If you get fucked like that, you just got to kind of earn it. It's your thing. I mean, I don't think you have a choice at that point. Especially if you're monetizing it, you can't really not own it. It's kind of like, that's it. Dude, that would be funny, though.

I think you should try. Yeah. Would you? So you would do it. It does get a little awkward. When you're like alone with a girl and there's no cameras around and all jokes are aside, you're like, my fuck. Imagine there is a camera in a,

other guys around. You're gonna fucking crumble. I thought we were like, it's like a one-on-one thing. Not like me with a 80-100-d-old. Dude, she's not gonna light candles for you. 100 guys.

She could light candles. Put some fucking flower petals on the bed. Like a funny bit for her show or something. Like she comes down and have sex with me. It'd be funny. No, you got you should try to make it happening. She would do it. I think she would do it.

I'm not even trying to be mean. Like she just like genuinely, it seems like she just doesn't, she doesn't care. That's what, that's the sentiment I got. Well, is she from here? Where's she from? No, she's from the UK.

oh really yeah there you go you hook up with her would you hook up with her no what's your type he's what's hub he likes baby mamas yeah yeah big baby mama guy

there you go he's got a girl though yeah I'm not trying to make it you know no I've just I fucked him up in the past saying some stupid shit I want to say it again on pot and be like he gets screwed

yeah he's loyal as shit he's a loyal guy I can see you with like an Indian girl or like an Arabic girl yeah Indian why Arabic? Why? Why? Just, I don't know. It just seems like you kind of look a little like Muslim. Like not Muslim. I don't know if that's like a okay. No go for it.

You get my back here straight here. Hold on. Yeah, you look a little Muslim, Arabic? Middle Eastern? Middle Eastern. That's what you meant said. You look a little Middle Eastern. So like yeah. What feature of him looks yeah. What feature of me is me? Give me one feature of him. His beard in his eyes. Fucking I don't know looks dark like darker dark features yeah you look pretty dark yeah i don't know i'm italian so maybe that's it dude he has a great asian accent show him your asian accent i don't have an asian accent i actually don't it's not you like you're about you're doing something with the hands there come not smudah what that's not asian though that's come not smudah let it go let a rip

i don't have an asian accent okay what does an asian guy sound like i don't know i don't do bobby lee dude theo vaugh when he when he makes fun of bobby lee i'm I don't know. I can't do that. I can do, um, like, Irish. Have you seen that one of the funniest clips I've never seen?

Where he's like, he's like, pretend you're my dad. And he goes, Bobby. He's like, no, like you're a white dad and I'm your son,

not like you're fucking Asian dad. Bro, it's so fucking funny. I cried. Can you do an Indian accent? What? What are you talking about? No,

I can't. I can't do an accent, man. No. I'm just trying to get him, get his ass canceled. Dude, the hell.

What is this? trying to get you canceled hour you cancel yourself i will say these lights are so much better than our lights like they're oh ours are pretty hard winding i pour shades most of the time yeah they're nice these are nice ones you got to get a little like a warmer time yeah we got like work lights like fucking construction you know they're like stadium lights and like they're really bright you need you need the what's it called the diffuser thing yeah yeah yeah they're looking at that we make them way like way too bright from the guests can't even see They're like, jeez, a little bright here, huh?

It doesn't make you feel like you're in, like, a different space, though. Like, your lights are my lights. Oh, the ones we use. Yeah. It's, like, so, like, yeah, I don't know. Like, he doesn't like when, like, people watch. Like, the lights are on you kind of feeling. Like, yeah, we'll have homies hanging out or, like, staff, and they'll come watch

the show sometimes, but, like, he gets all tripped out. He's, like, doesn't like it. Why? I think it's sick. I think it's dope if, like, eventually one day, it's like, yeah, if there's people skating the ramp, like, it's, like, 10 people kind of fill in and watch. to be like this there's not like five people just sitting around watching i would love to do live ones even it's so cool yeah yeah i actually think i would perform better on camera if it was like

alive yeah and you can interact a little bit that'd be fucking cool i actually i'm planning on doing some live events like that with the pod that'd be sick but it needs to be like hundreds of people not like five people it's scary to do it in front of five people than like a big crowd of people because then you you get like it depends who for sure like if it's like uh like you're like You wouldn't do good if it was just like, like, just your dad or something shit. Like, hang out there. Yeah, like, something like that. Because you feel like you're thinking, like, they're just judging you or something.

But there was, like, a big crowd of people. That means no sense. I don't know how to describe it. It's like you're doing stand-up in front of, like, five people. It's going to be a little awkward, you know? I see what you're trying to say. Maybe the amount of people that would laugh at a certain thing, you know? Do you have one thing that, like, before you die, you're like, I want, like, how I was

saying, I want to make a movie one day or, like, do you have one thing? You're like, even, like, not money to make. make off it just like one dream you like haven't conquered yet kids fuck yeah family yeah that's the one thing yeah yeah yeah i think that's always been important to you i know you've brought that up especially with your dad and like all that you know it's like it's important to me too i think it's you know what's funny is to think about that as like a goal people forget that like that's something that has value and you can work toward and build so much time toward yeah so much value it can't just be this thing, you know. I have a really good question for you. This is where I want to be, right? Do you

want to, like, move out of L.A. when you have, like, a wife and kids, like, right around the time when your kids are born, do you want to, like, move into, like, the country somewhere and completely separate from social media? The thing is, like, I really think that the podcasting is something that I could do for, for a very long time. I don't think I'll ever really stop doing that. With kids and a wife in your life? Yeah, I think I could still do that. But for sure, moving out out of L.A. is definitely on the radar. So how would you do the podcast? If you live in, like, Utah or some shit. Having guests come on and stuff.

I'm sorry, yeah, just fly someone out and come on the pod. Okay. I think that that's going to get fixed in the future, too. I think that, like, technology and show. I mean, I have a feeling we're going to be able to, you're not going to be able to tell the difference of someone physically being there or not being there. Like, I don't even know exactly. Like some, like, hologram kind of shit.

Damn. I think that that's where our mind goes right now. Yeah. That's all we've seen. But, like, it's. I mean, because I can do the virtual stuff through here. I can do the live stuff through here. they can have call someone pop them up but it's not the same yeah in person is always different

having the conversation but look how much has changed in five years 10 years it's like i just think it's going to be like i mean bro they're talking about fucking teleporting people yeah like like what there's gonna make a way where i can feel exactly feel like this because i also think that they're going to have like the same way like people don't have offices as much like eventually it'll be like a whiteboard room and maybe it's oculus i don't know what it is but it's like some kind of like everyone's you're going to feel just like this and you could shoot it just like this but you can be anywhere you want in the world that would be fucking nuts man that would make the guest thing so much easier because that's the hardest thing is like

the sked like even with you me coming doing your show like i know i got to drive you guys know you got to come drive you'd say yes a lot more like oh you just need an hour in my time like yeah is this your sponsor huell yeah yeah you have to do ad reads for them yeah can i do it do you want to do an ad read do your ad read for you uh yeah you you want to you can try to do a make shit do it actually really can i do it you just did his first prize picks one yeah we do we we make our guests do out oh you're good you good that hurt because we make our guests do our ad reads all right so give me a give me a ad read for this right here all right all right I don't know what even this is one sec I mean it's it's a protein replacement drink so

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Whenever. Yeah. I got to do it now. I have to do it. I will not not do it, I promise. I mean, you know what it is too?

We were set on like 6 p.m. on Fridays, but we've changed that now. Like, even to come in here from my warehouse, this took 41 minutes to drive here. That's not that bad. So maybe if we time it,

I think that, well, I came earlier, I went to the gym here, but the, I think if you try to come for like 2 p.m. You could come bang it out and come back and you'll, within an hour to drive.

I'm going to do it. Regardless. I think 12 is the best time. By the way, I'm going to just say that. But I think if you like... Whatever's like traffic, I think. That's the annoying part. We filmed that 12 and then you're back here by like two.

Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. We'll do it. We're going to do it as far as the only thing. Let's do some time next week. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Also, my dad's coming down Friday for like a week. Oh, he should come on the episode. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are doing together. Fuck, it'd be fun. You should have one here too. Is that I'd love to.

I love your dad. No, I love his dad. Yeah, if you'd want him on. He would love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you guys so much for coming, man. That was fucking awesome. So let's plan for some time next week when your dad's there.

I think that'll be a good episode. Fuck, yeah. Because we have some history. We have some beef. I think we got to settle. Yeah. We were going to, we should get, like,

work out or some shit. Because we had an idea of me and your dad working out, like your dad trying to get me to work out. Yeah, we had like vlog segments of the show now, like off of it. That's dope. So we'll just go do some fun fun. Yeah, I'm down. Yeah, maybe we'll come hit zoo after.

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Thank you.