RAWTALK - The worst thing Chris D’Elia did

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

0:00 Intro 0:36 Crowd at Laugh Factory 2:47 Chris D’Elia’s energy 3:26 Special - Grow or Drive 3:58 Pushing the boundaries 5:20 Chris’s Joke of getting robbed 7:53 Doing Everything 9:14 Knowing what’s gonna hit 10:14 People taking everything from you 11:24 a joke from a comedian 12:22 it’s not violent to say something 15:25 the power of Elon Musk 16:33 free speech 18:06 the world is getting weird 19:18 being afraid as a father 20:34 world is ending? 22:53 internet making things crazy 23:37 Jeffrey Epstein news 27:26 Biden vs. Trump 29:01 government lying to us? 29:13 aliens 29:43 Chris D’Elia doesn’t believe in ghost 30:53 is Chris religious? 33:00 how Chris creates comedy 34:49 getting ahead on comedy skits 35:59 copying a comedians bit 37:00 being successful as a comedian 38:23 knowing who you are - self worth 39:10 getting validation from people 41:32 people thinking a certain way of you 43:34 reflection of yourself 44:09 Brad making content in the fitness industry 44:52 Problems with making content on the internet 46:34 getting numb to the hate 47:58 Chris D’Elia getting validation 49:25 Chris in rehab 50:40 believing what people want you to do 52:16 best thing Chris D’Elia got from rehab 54:38 the trauma Chris went through 55:49 understanding that people go through things 1:00:03 working out and being a comedian 1:01:06 Brad about his father in relation to movies 1:02:22 Chris D’Elia on being a father, can't watch movies 1:03:45 algorithm on social media 1:07:30 Brad on Chris D’Elia being hilarious

Like, you don't notice that when you're up there? I noticed when all, so, for instance, that night, I thought that, um, we're starting this side. Yeah, this side. Um, that night, I, I actually thought, I think I remember thinking the crowd was not great, because, um, the night before it was like bonkers, right, at the laugh factory. And then, like, so good. And then that night, I was like, I don't know what's up with this crowd. I think it's okay.

and then when I went up You're judging that like while you're off stage in the back? Yeah, I'm kind of like feeling it. Like I'm not like really watching. I don't watch the comedians, but like I'll be like, oh, I can, I can feel it. You know, you kind of hear it.

You're talking to other people and stuff backstage. And then when I went on, I was like, okay, this isn't like last night. Last night was amazing right away. It was even crazier. No, it wasn't, it wasn't. I thought the crowd was okay. It wasn't that the crowd was okay.

It was just like, it was, I remember it was really hot in the room. And one of the reasons why I remember it was really hot in the room is because afterwards when I got off stage and you said, hey, what's up? And I was like, oh, what's up, dude? We didn't know each other were there. I, I hit your shoulder and you were wearing a, like a long sleeve shirt. And I remember thinking, oh, he must be hot in you. That's why I remember it was hot.

That's why I remember it was hot. Because I was like, why he's wearing it. It was like a long sleeve and I was like, oh, man, that's not good. Because I was thinking of, I remember that's why I remember it was hot because I hit your shoulder like that. Like, what's up, bro? and it felt i felt like i had a good set but the room was kind of too hot and i feel like the people were like it's hot yes no bro like i i i hadn't been to a comedy show in a really long time and so i go to this this laugh factory this is what we were talking about before we hopped on the

and uh you were a surprise guest i didn't even know you're going to be there yeah yeah i just went there just to see other comedians because i like watching comedy yeah i wish i knew you were going to be there yeah and then you i see you pull up and i'm like i get all excited and they'll like the whole room shifts like i was asking you before we stepped on i was like do you notice that not there's not that these other comedians aren't great there's tons of good comedians there but like you're the whole room because i've never seen you in person live like that the whole room was like lit up oh you started going oh have you not ever been to been to see me no i've seen all you're kidding yeah yeah but not in person oh okay oh cool well thanks first of all but yeah i i i um

i don't know i've i i know i have i i know i have an energy about me that's that's i don't know man like i don't like a lot of times people are like um i i i feel like i'm pretty for the general public my stand-up i mean i i think i'm a little um i i say certain words that i think most a lot of comics wouldn't say but i say that because you know whatever it was in my dream first of all so it's like but that's the whole funny part about it is like It's not, is it my fault? I dreamt it. It was my subconscious.

Yeah, right? So it's on my special. It's on, you can go to chrysley.com and get it. It's called grow or die. Um, but anyway, um, well, so what, okay, the grow or die thing. Yeah. By the way, I loved like the branding of it. It was super dope.

Um, and the apparel stuff looked really cool as well. The standup that I saw, um, was that a part of that? No. That live, no. Yeah. So what, what was that? Cause like, I saw that and I was like, Oh, this is really funny.

And I've never seen that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay. Because you like, you can tell you're kind of like, you, I don't know if it's just comedy in general or you specifically, but people are pushing the boundaries more again. I think it's a little of both. I think that comedy has just become for some reason this thing where people,

any special, anybody high profile puts it out and just immediately people try to tear them you know like it's happening with Chappelle now it doesn't matter have it with Matt Rife yeah and like it at the end of the day it doesn't really matter you know because people are still going to go see them but I think that uh I don't purposely try to push the envelope because I think that if that's your agenda it's not I think the main thing it should be is funny right yeah absolutely so if you're working from that aspect of being funny and you're thinking okay, but I'm not going to have any walls of. I'm going to say whatever I want.

And if people get pissed off, then that's okay. I know I'm not racist. I know I'm not prejudiced. I'm just going to do it. People think it's funny. Great. If people aren't great, then you can come up with good stuff. But I feel like if you're coming from like, let's see how I can like stir shit up.

Yeah. I don't, I don't like, like a lot of comedians will just talk about people who are woke and canceled and this and that. And they're doing it to get a rise out of people. But like, I'm just doing it because I think it's, I think it's funny. Yeah. And it feels genuine, I think. Yeah. Like the other joke you made, bro, I'm sorry, I interrupted.

No, it's okay. One of the funniest jokes ever. Like, you were talking about the guy coming out and be like, I know you got something good for me in that bad rubbing your belly. Like, was that a real situation? That really happened, the whole thing, yeah. Yeah, I talked about it on my podcast. I won't get into it too much because you can come see me live. But it's so good.

It's just, I thought I was getting robbed for a second. This dude came off to me and it was just in the south. I thought I was getting robbed. And it turns out, I wasn't. not getting robbed but yeah the punchline was the best yeah so i'll kill the joke so that's new that stuff is new um when i shoot my special i shot it in april yeah first and then i i i i came out in november took a while to kind of cut it together um and i remember thinking like if i just have like once it comes out i don't know some comedians will do this stuff in their special and that's fine i think that you know

good for them if they're going to fill seats and do that and people want to come and see those jokes too that's that's cool but for me i did my special and i was like all right i'll have half like if you come see me now i'll have half new stuff and have stuff from the special because it's too hard to just write a whole new hour of something yeah in a few months so after i shot it in april i started doing new stuff so by the time it came out in november i would have half and half right I see yeah so dude I remember I had half and half my special came out and the next week I was in I think Florida to do gigs and I did my all my new stuff my first half of my new stuff and I was like okay so here it's going to be the special some of the stuff from a special and I didn't

know how many people had seen it in the room but I I thought I can't I can't do that I'm so bored of it dude and I just started talking about my family I started talking about my mom and dad things that I thought maybe might be funny and that became my next hour yeah it was just I I it is like it's like pulling teeth dude like to for me to do stuff that I've already that's already been filmed I see it's it's so boring to me I don't know and and not everyone has seen it I know and it's just like but I already did it. It's on camera. That's crazy. I mean, it's obviously way different. That's how I felt about like just content that I made on YouTube and Instagram, which is completely different.

But what do you mean? Like you? The same thing where it's like I've done so like lifting videos. I've done lift a girl here, lifted a girl. Like I've done all these different sort of like feet strengths. Things that I've done where I'm like, okay, what else? I've done everything. Yeah. It's, it's way different obviously. But I understand the idea of like, I mean, no, I don't understand though. It's like it's like you want people, once people, People, you know what? It used to be like that. I think it figured, I figured that out like in, in when Vine started. Remember that at Vine? Absolutely. Like I got big on Vine and then I would start to do these series of things like I do every now and then I'd do this joke. I'd make fun of something or I'd do a character. And then after I did it like six times and like someone on the street was like, dude, I love that character. I'm like, I'm done. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is, dude. I don't know what it is. It's like, oh, I Oh, you know me for that? I'm not doing that.

I'm not going to do it. And it's benefited me because, in content-wise, it's benefited because I do more, more and more different stuff. Yeah. And some of the stuff is not as good as the stuff that people are like,

you should do that, you know, but I'll never, I just, I don't, I don't know what that is. It might be like a, it might be something,

it might have something to do with like a self-sabitized or insecurity, but it makes me do more. Because you don't want to do the same thing again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting.

I mean, like how do you how do you how do you know when you're when you're making this stuff do you know what's going to hit versus not hit like because when those things hit and it's like there's that oh you're that guy yeah yeah did you think that that was going to be the thing that people were going to recognize you like or there a few of them yeah like when i first when i had my first special i did the drunk this drunk girl's bit and i it was like i think it was like nine 10 minutes long i was like this is going to be the thing that like if Comedy Central puts it out there

it's gonna blow me up it did and and then and then I think my first my first Netflix special was it I can't remember what I think it was I think it was incredible

I think yeah speaking of that you were you were all over all of these platforms and now you're on your own platform yeah do they do they would they let you back on do you want to be back on I don't I haven't

tried, but I don't know. I have no idea. But also, there's something weird about how people can just kind of like take everything from you. So I want to do it my own way. So it's like, well, first of all, because you were all over. I know. But if I say certain words, they're not going to put me on anyway. So I don't want to live in fear of that. So I just, I'll just do it on my website. I make good money. Yeah. So, okay. Like, and, you know, I don't, I don't know. It's, I don't want these corporations to, to tell me who I am. I, I got, I, I, I, I, I've never, I've never been okay with that. And so like, and I get like, like, I think I, I, I don't think I, I think I wouldn't say, like, on my, on my, my, on my, on my, I, on my, I, on my, I, on, I, on, I,

on my, I, I was like, there was a part where I was like, going to say, I was like, I won't say it and now I say it on stage it's like who cares I'm not yeah it's like if you're gonna be mad at that then all right I'm trying to make a joke and like yeah well that's the thing of the comedy like the one place where it's just like why are we making this a problem yeah it's really weird too because there's so much going on in the world you know you're gonna get mad at Matt right for making a domestic violence joke it's like it's a joke yeah it's like literally a joke but also from a comedian I know it's not like if I said it to be like, hey, maybe it's a little weird.

The whole point is this is the comedy show. Yeah, it's a comedy show. It's like, it's not like he showed him, he's like, I'm going to tell you some real life stories. Yeah, yeah, and like, Beanie Women's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, that's what I'm never, I never understood that. I mean, even recently with the Matt Wright thing, I'm like, you know, show the, like, what the people do it? Like, we can't, comedy has to be like the one place you can't, you can't treat it that way. You can't treat it like, it's just like. Nah, it's weird. And people want to,

like, rip everything from that, that. Yeah. person like it's it's really and they say like it's bro my favorite is it's violent it's violent to say that like dude oh wait that's another joke you made it i don't want to blow it here thank you i don't want to do it here but like dude it's not it's it is not violent to say something that's it's it's where it stops you don't need to have a conversation after that oh but no yeah like i guess you could say it's violent if i'm like hey dude kill that yeah it's violent and you say okay and you kill him then okay i got some stake in that and that's kind of up of me and it wasn't a joke and it wasn't on stage to a thousand people at my comedy show right it's but like dude you can't say like this whole

thing about chappelle's like oh he's violent towards trans people dude no he's not he's not he's just not Not at all. Not even a little bit. He's the opposite. He's trying to make everyone laugh. This is the opposite of violence. That's the craziest part. But haven't you, though, notice that like there's a lot more people now who are voicing like,

yo, what the fuck are y'all doing? Yes, there are. However, and I think the tide will turn. But if I was beholden to these networks, especially like, dude, if I was on a sitcom, on NBC, I couldn't be saying this stuff right now. Yeah. I could. But, dude, they would do things like,

not renew the show or, like, recast. Yeah. I can't live like that, dude. I can't live like that. Yeah, it's crazy. It's bonkers. Especially comedy. You know, and so, you know, yeah, especially comedy.

And they try to tell you down for one reason or another. And it's, it is what it is. And the people who are around me that I keep around me, they know I'm a good person. So, you know, it's like, it's weird. It's weird. But it's how it is. And I know the pendulum will swing, I guess. Or it will just break up and everything will be so splintered and different, you know,

you know I don't I don't know I don't know what's going to happen but yeah I think it just keeps going it keeps going it's coming back again like you know you saw that you saw Elon must talk about like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're not going to make me do it for money and I think I think I think just more people like that are you know that a lot of people look at are just starting to like be like what the going on like why are we yeah I mean there's an argument to I I think I mean there's an argument to like what Elon was saying I think because Elon you get he gets so much you know yeah and and and to say to get so much makes you react so like these guys who are really big like him and whoever when when that guy says so how do you feel about this he ends up saying something

like you don't do this and that's a reaction off of all the he's been taking when in actuality he maybe a better way to have said that would have been something like look you know I know some brands are going to do this because of this and if they don't want to do that then so be it but I can't live like that yeah but we live in a world where everything is everyone feels that in one way or another I they feel like they're getting on in one way or another so now when Elon Musk says them those people are like ah fuck ass yeah and it's only bad all All of it is only bad because there's just too much emotion going on. I see what you're saying.

It's like Elon Musk, at the heart of what he's saying, he means well, dude. And he's like, you should be able to say what you want. You know, if brands aren't going to fuck with us, then okay. But then he says, fuck off. And then everyone says either, yeah, or they think, oh, well, or they go, the opposite. And they're like, well, they just get more mad. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying?

Everyone gets more mad. It's just, the anger is just crazy. And at the end of the day, it all doesn't matter at all. Like, it doesn't matter. It just, I wish people knew it didn't matter. But you don't think it matters at all? It matters. Okay, so what does it matter?

Because, like, his, his whole part on that, that conversation was also about the idea of, like, if these companies are not paying ad dollars to my company, then they're directly in relationship to not supporting free speech. Essentially, that's what he was trying to say. Sure, I understand that. Yeah, and of course I think free speech matters. It's not what I'm saying. But like, at the end of the day, our lives,

and I know the slippery slope argument, but like you can say what you want, and just because you are going to say what you want doesn't mean that a company has to employ you. Like I understand that a company you might not be good for their brand because of the things you say.

That's not against the first or against freedom of speech. Right. You know? It's like, I had a buddy that was like, great, they took me off Instagram because I was saying this shit. And he's like, you should speak out

and help me. And I was like, well, bro, he's like, this is a, this is, it's against the law, it's free speech. It's not free speech. I'm like, Instagram's a business. Yeah, it's a private company.

Not even to mention, I didn't agree with what the guy was saying. Yeah. But he's like, yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's free speech. I'm like, yeah, but it's a business, dude. It's like, but you can still say what you want. People are going to be mad about it, and that's okay, I guess. But I do think it's weird that people are coutowing to like,

hey, this person said this, take his job. That's crazy. that that's just crazy people who do that are losers yeah yeah they're losers it's it's weird man the world is getting weirder and weirder right now so weird so weird this is up for ben yeah i mean i i i i ask my parents you know because they're like 75 76 and i'm like you know how every generation is like oh it's getting crazy like everybody said when you know their dads their parents said that oh man when i was a kid it was great you know like how far back can you say when do you How far back can you go?

Like, no, it wasn't. At some point, you didn't have technology. And people were just, like, didn't even know what to wipe their asses with. And they were just like, this is the life. Like, you know? So, like, so like, I said to my parents, I'm like, has it, like, you're, you've been around for a long time, you know? Like, has it ever been this crazy?

And they're like, no, it was crazy kind of once in the, I forget what era they said. But it wasn't this crazy. And I was like, wow, that's like a. real shit. Yeah, because I've asked older people the same thing. And they're like, I remember around COVID and they were like, yeah, no, it's been crazy, but not like this. Yeah. And it's only progressively since then

but getting like crazier and crazier. So I'm just like, you know, as a father, and you know, you make a lot of jokes around your family and stuff, but like, are you, are you at all afraid of the way it's going? Yeah. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little

like, being a dad, like I have a, almost, almost four, and then I have a nine month old. And like, just like the love that I have for them, like right behind that, there's almost this sadness of like, oh man, I love them so much. I want the best for them. I really hope that they're able to navigate through this world. Like that's always my second thought. And it is scary.

And the only thing you can do, I mean, it is such a, and they're only. and not even a year. Like, I can't imagine what it's going to be like when they're, like, when they go to college and when they, like, you have to, like, let that go. Like, now they're men in the world. And it's like, it's definitely scary. God, it's like, but,

what can you do? It's just, you just love them and hope for the best. Yeah, I just feel like we're going to like, I don't know, man. I don't know how many more years like until like really hits the fan i asked my other guesses but i just feel like i know i feel like we got five more years so it's like a real problem well at some point somebody is going to be the guy who hits the button and they're just like all right dude half the world's

dead like yeah they can do that you know and if they can't now they will they can tomorrow like that technology's coming you know yeah well it's shutting off power and exactly right yeah that does exist like that whole thing about how like they want to put kill switches in the cars have you heard about that yeah like that at first i'm like this is how my mind goes when i hear something like that i'm like ah dude that's a good idea they're gonna stop crooks and the world's going to be great and then i'm like oh wait a minute yeah wait is like immediately i'm like oh wait hold on dude what if somebody like is defaulting on their payment for their car then they'll stop their car and they'll go pay up the car and i guess that's bad because in essence they're stealing from it

but then I'm like Yeah, keep taking it further Yeah, exactly What if they lock us down Of COVID again? You're not going to be able to get in your car You're not going to be able

To get in your car They're not going to be like Sorry dude, this new strain came out You can't go in a wear boom And your car is good You can't get in your Then everyone is getting shot Everyone's good

That's mayhem Yeah, that's no good So Yeah, I just wonder where it all goes, dude And then where does it end And then Because the pendulum will swing but I don't know if it'll swing fully to 100% of the world

because there's the internet now. Yeah. You don't just have the media saying this is how it is. You have some lunatic in his basement that kind of knows some shit sometimes, that is kind of real about some shit and has been smart in a way or two over the years. And guess what he knows?

All the other lunatics in the basement. And they're all connected. And when they're all right on some shit, people are going to be like, oh, they were right about this, and then boom, they're going to have a conglomeration. And then it's like, Right about that.

Yeah. Everything's split. It's so fucked up. You used to just, I used to try a joke about this on stage, but those people used to be the people that were screaming on the side of the street. Those people used to be the people that you just don't invite to Thanksgiving dinner. Everyone has one of those in their family. But now they all found each other.

They have their own Thanksgiving. They're all on Twitter. Exactly. They're on Twitter. They're all on Reddit. They're all on wherever. And it's just like. Yeah.

That's the thing that I worry about, though, is like the speed, kind of how things over the last, I would say 10 years have just gotten crazier it's largely related to the internet oh yeah and and the thing is is that some conspiracy theories are actually true yeah like that's the thing you can't just be like psh it's like dude you're gonna tell me one guy shot jfk from all the way out yeah no we all know that didn't happen yeah you know what i'm saying so then if you're somebody who doesn't believe in conspiracy theories and then you see that you're like okay well what else are they lying about and it's like dude, I'm not, I am not the dude that's out there like, I hate it. I mean, I know everyone's lying to us, but they've been lying to us for a long time.

It's just now it's like the internet has exacerbated and made it like in everyone's face. And like, me, right now, this whole Epstein thing is like, this shit's crazy, bro. It's so bonkers. First of all, I thought that that was never going to be released. And I guess it did the other day, right? Yeah, like they're released. They're like, they've been releasing bits of it kind of like, because I don't know if they're afraid how crazy people are going to go. Maybe.

But it was like, I guess Bill Clinton was their X amount of like 30, 100 sometimes. And they release that. And now they're like slowly releasing more. And people are like, they're like putting, you know, like a injunction into the case and be like, whoa, give it some more time. Because like people are afraid now of like how their reaction might be if they find out their name. It's just a weird thing. It's weird because like, dude, not everyone knew what was going on there was bad. Like, of course, Jeffrey Epstein knew, right?

And, of course, there were other guys that were in on it. But, bro, if some dude is like, yo, I know this guy, he wants to take us on a jet and go to this island that he owns, and there's chicks there. And you just say, want to go Leonardo DiCaprio? Leonardo DiCaprio is 23 years old. He goes, yeah.

He doesn't know. Yeah. So that doesn't mean necessarily that he's out there. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. Doing all this horrendous. Not to say it didn't happen, but it's like... That's where it gets messy.

exactly because I saw people online that were like so disappointed in Bruce Willis that he was there and it's like okay but so disappointed in Leonardo Caprio guess I can't support him you don't know what's going on that's like saying everybody at the house party is doing the drugs like they're not all doing the drugs yeah I never did the drugs I hated it when I was at the house parties yeah exactly yeah well that's that's a thing but I guess I guess they do have the transcripts of like people like these you know I guess children at the time that were being groomed or whatever are saying things about specific people

well that's obviously you need to look into that yeah but yeah it's crazy I don't know but also you know who knows I don't know I wasn't there I just remember when they were like yeah this guy killed himself in jail we're all like come on well there's another one it's like come on guys

I guess he could have and also also I go back and forth on that because that's so coincidental but also if you think about it man i feel like he would want to do you know what i'm saying yeah if getting caught up and all that kind of stuff i mean just like there was that one nas or the guy who did the he did he gymnastics i think he actually killed himself oh did he yeah i didn't know that yeah yeah like

kind of shit like because it's like you're the like the highest level of a scumbag right although that's crazy man i can't believe that like like Like, and then they got the Gislane or whatever, is there, what's her name? Yeah, gasoline or whatever. Gasoline. Gasoline. But, yeah, she didn't do it. Yeah, I thought she would.

But, like, I just keep thinking they're going to take these motherfuck out. Like, they got a note. Yeah. Bro, it's crazy that Epstein had those paintings of, dude, could you imagine if you invited me to this podcast? And there was just a painting of me. me just like like holding my little dick or whatever it is and you were just like hey you say something i'm too powerful for you to even let's do the podcast and you're going to be sitting here with a painting with a little dick on there like and i was just like okay yeah yeah like he

must have something on him you know bro that's the thing is like this guy just had stuff on everyone that's what there's that's the whole conspiracy i mean that makes sense like it's crazy it's deep i have some there's some sort of truth in there you know there has to be otherwise this wouldn't be a reality but it's just it's weird man i mean i just wonder what what's what's happening next like where do you think this is going bro i i i i don't even because like the elections coming up all this stuff is i feel like that's going to be mayhem it's going to be so crazy that it's biden versus trump it's going to be so crazy if that happens which i think it is it's stacking up to yeah it's just it's just so because i it's so

bonkers that I'm just like man I just don't vote I don't know what's going on I don't know anything like yeah I know they're lying to us bro they've been lying to us yeah all all everyone you're saying this election was rigged they're all rigged yeah they've all been some sort of rigged I think forever yeah because it's not it's funny because it's also interesting to me how people go whether it's Biden or Trump is the bad guy but it's like dude they're just it's a whole conglomerate people making these decisions and like they're they're pressing whatever they want forward and and so I I always wonder, does it actually make a difference who's in office?

I wonder that, too, yeah. I mean, I think it's, it does matter if it's a liberal or a conservative because they have a lot of different ideas versus the two camps. But, like, I mean, Trump certainly shit up. Like, he makes things different a little bit. But, like, I don't, like, that, the COVID would have been way different if he stayed in office, I feel like, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I don't know. I mean, dude, I'm also the last guy to know about anything political. like but I just like it's hard to it's it feels like it's so hard to make any sort of difference for anybody that like they're just going to do what they want and like people are mad that the government is lying to us like I don't necessarily think that's bad like keep some things from me I don't want to know I don't want to know I don't want to know I don't want to know everything it'll just make me really sad yeah like what about the alien thing there was like a weird clip of someone being who was saying it like oh it's like super deep the whole alien thing's like

super deep i seen a clip and i was like what the oh dude my whole thing is why do the aliens always kind of look like the same like dude either well no okay i go it's like i i definitely believe that there are other it's not just us bro okay it'd be crazy it's insane the likelihood is crazy right but then when people are starting to get like bigfoot

or like lock nest monster i'm like dude just or no my favorite is when people believe in ghosts dude just dude i've been like 43 years. Hey, dude, I'm willing. Hey, ghost, show up. Like, I'll, I will believe, I will believe it. Yeah.

Zero. The only person that's ever, like, sworn to me, you know, I've seen a ghost is Bobby Lee. And I don't believe him. You know what I mean? So like, so like, people were going to tell me like, oh, yeah, they, like, ghosts are real.

Like, dude, I'm friends with the dude Aaron from a ghost, uh, adventures or whatever the fuck. And he's like, oh, yeah, I totally believe in it. I'm like, bro. so you don't believe a ghost at all no zero zero and I will I will like you're willing to 100% possess me dude I go to bed I've been to bed before I go like yo is dark possess me yeah let's see I don't give a show me some also like there's definitely nice ones out there yeah like I'm not scared like let's do it maybe they're scary entities but like I'm all good like show up yeah hang out

bro I feel that I feel that and and I'm not saying it's impossible like you know I don't know everything. Maybe there's an afterlife. I have no idea. Yeah. So like... Are you religious? I'm not religious, no.

And why have you ever been religious? I mean, no, since I was a kid. But like, I, I, again, that's something that I have no idea about. It's not like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like something where I'm like, you know, do you believe in God? I guess I haven't really thought about it, honestly. like I don't I mean I have thought about it but I don't I don't know you know I can't how can you say no definitively on the people who are like nah no way like how do you know you don't know yeah you know

there's a lot of evidence that supports things besides that but also I don't know it's also good to have faith but then you're like every war in history started because of religion so you're like okay what's going on yeah yeah it's just it's all it's interesting I I uh I uh not faith specifically, but religion, I think I got out of the idea when I was younger of religion because of the way it was organized and I didn't like, you know,

I grew up in a Catholic church and I like, you have to kneel and stand and I'd give money and I was like, this is weird, like this doesn't seem like God would want this. I don't want to do anything that a bunch of people are doing. Like, I don't want to be ever. So like religion is like, to me,

it was like, my grandfather was like, don't ever volunteer for anything. It's a funny. It's funny. My dad's dad, he's like, you don't volunteer for anything. he's like period he's like period you just don't do that it's so funny

no just like like don't ever work for free basically I guess so yeah no that is so funny to me that he was like that but but um yeah to me that was like that it's like religion like anytime like a fraternity in college

I was like this is just no way it's not me I don't want to be doing rules like with that you just made up I don't want to do that I'm cool with the law those are all the rules I need I'm not you're not going to be like we don't eat meat on the

it's like what? Yeah, yeah. No, that's okay. We can. We can. You know?

Bro. Holy. How do you? How do you? I think I spoke to you about this last time, but when you create your comedy, you just pick like current things or do you pick things that are just in your life that are most relevant to you?

They're kind of now at this point. I think I probably do things that are most relevant to me. Yeah. Like, you know, that like, like there's things that pop in on my head. and I'll either like my wife will be like

oh you should bring that up on the podcast or oh that's funny like the other day she brought up something I can't remember what it was but she was I said something just in conversation she was like dude you should make that a bit and I was like oh it's been done I can't remember who did it but like somebody did something like that

so like stuff like that'll happen and then like but like you know stories that happened like for instance when I thought I was getting robbed like that was such a good joke thanks dude but that was so unique to me that happened and I don't watch people's comments special i watch zero specials so like i know that'll be uniquely mine and there's so much content

out there was a thing there was a bit i put out recently it's a new bit about uh avengers and the woke avengers i don't know if i did that on the show you were there i don't i don't think i did but anyway it was talking about how the avengers they're all going to be woke one day and i put it out on on on my socials because i'm like dude somebody's going to think of this yeah like i'm not going to wait a year and a half to film this in a special somebody else would have done a version of it. You know what I'm saying? So like that's, it's a different time now.

Like, whereas that shit might be on somebody's podcast in a week and maybe like, it probably is somewhere, you know? So it's like, so it's like you got to, you got to just kind of like be the first one to get that out there. Like I'm not a topical comedian, but when a bits like that, I was like,

I said it to my tour manager. I was like, dude, I feel like I should just put that online. Somebody's going to put that a special. Somebody's going to do some version of it. And he's like, yeah, you should. It's like, all right. Dude, do you think it makes a difference, though,

if you get ahead on that or not? Because, like, people just rip it anyways. Well, you mean, like, steal? Yeah, I mean, that's... Yeah, they do, I guess. But, like, I don't know. Like, there was... Like, here's an example.

Really good comedian, Nikki Parrish. He did a bit that he's been doing a bit for years. And then Dave Chappelle did a similar kind of thing on his, um, on his, on his, new special. I don't think he saw him do it. I just think it's what they thought of. Yeah. What was the bit specifically? Going to a strip club with a bunch of guys. Okay. So. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't exactly right. Like so. So, um, and it was, it was, it was like a few seconds where they said a similar thing. It wasn't even like a whole bit, you know? Yeah. And Nikki was cool about it. He was like, oh, wow, this is wild. Like one of the best, you know,

one of the best comedians and he did a similar thing like i'm not saying anything bad about it but it's like people just have to realize that that kind of stuff's going to happen you know yeah like i've had guys i've had guys say you or like even put me on put online like you did this bit i did it in 1998 i used to do it at the comedy seller and it's like okay well i was 18 i never saw you do it you never did it on tv also straight up who are you i've never i've never i I've never even heard of you, dude. Like, straight up. It's happened where I'm like, who's this guy?

And my shit was a throwaway line, and that was about his whole bit. And I, you know, I don't want to say who it is because I don't, I don't want to start you. But it's like, if that's your whole bit, my throwaway line, keep writing, bro. Yeah, I get it. You know what I mean? like it's it's like you can't assume that like just no one has any similar thoughts it's crazy dude yeah it's crazy and i get it like if you're not successful that's you're hanging on to your bits yeah and you but it's like dude you got to kill you got to kill your baby you have to kill your

babies you have to you have to otherwise you're not going to ever get better dude yeah do you think do you think to be successful as a comedian now you need a podcast i don't think well just if you're going to start now yeah like if i was like you almost are being a fucking maybe maybe maybe now yeah but I do think like I don't know like I look at it it's just like a relevance thing kind of yeah you know like Matt rife doesn't have a podcast yeah I don't think he needs one so I guess there are ways to do it but it's got it that's a lightning bottle thing yeah yeah I mean but he's really leveraged social media in a totally totally yeah but he wasn't until one day he just

was like you know I'm gonna put stuff on TikTok it wasn't like it was like it was like it was like, dude, I, I've known him. He's like, didn't want to do that. Yeah. He's like, I want to be a real comedian, you know? I see. Which is so interesting. It's silly because what's a real comedian?

You are a real comedian. You go on stage, you do jokes, you do well. Yeah. Who cares if you're on TikTok? You got to be on TikTok. It's funny. He's probably said that to you in real life in person. And if that's true, it's interesting because, like, he'd get hate on the internet

where it'd be like, he's just this not a real comedian guy. When it's like, it sounds like he was resistant to doing it in the first place. He was. yeah it's just people just spin everything they spin everything dude they spin everything but that's why like you said earlier you just got to be like it is what it is i mean you you you know it you have to base your self-worth on who you know you are and who the people that love you feel like you are and that's it that's it people who don't know you don't know you yeah but why do you think it's hard sometimes because that's hard i've had moments from like as much as i like know that i'm like i fucking

fumble well dude it's the hardest it's it's probably one of the hardest things to do in at least my life but because because for me i seek validation from strangers i mean it's it's my whole job dude so like um and i talk about this on my special even uh the one on out now on on my website it's like you know part of of being a comedian for me was getting validation from people laughing and you know uh liking me you know because i i i did not and you know sometimes do not have a healthy uh image of myself you know for yourself for myself yeah like you know everyone i think that i think that people are quick to look at somebody who's quote unquote on top or killing it or doing well and and and

see what they post on Instagram oh he's having he's doing great he's having success but it's like dude that person's a person dude I'm not I'm putting this stuff on Instagram that's glossy that's good that's fun

why the fuck I put my I don't want I'm not one of those people that's going to cry you know on because of a thing in my bedroom because something happened and then you know and then take a picture of yourself like I'm sad yeah you know and it's like it's the hardest thing though but but once you know i heard a guy say this once i can't remember

who it was i wish i did because i should shout him out i follow him on instagram he's he's awesome but he was like he was like um talking to somebody he's like a self-help person julian julian his name is julian himself, I think, is on Instagram. But he was like, said something to the front row. He's like, he was like, he was like speaking? He's speaking, yeah, he's a self-help guy. He's not American, he's something else. But he was like, hey, do you care if I say that you're,

I can't remember how it started, but it was something like, do you care if someone says you're stupid or, or fat or something like that? The guy was like, I guess, I don't know, yeah. And he was like, I hate your blue hair. And the guy was like, what? He was like, I hate your blue hair. And he was like, what? He said, I hate your blue hair.

What do you think about that? He was like, I don't have blue hair. He was like, so then why do you hate when someone says you're stupid if you know you're not? And I was like, wow, that's crazy powerful, you know? Yeah. And I understand that stupid is a little bit more of a vague word than blue hair. But I'm like, oh, wait, if people are just thinking you're, a way you're not, they're wrong. They're wrong. They're right and wrong. It's not like that doesn't

exist. People are wrong all the time. A lot of people are wrong all the time. Yeah. And just because somebody thinks something about you doesn't mean that you're that. And that has nothing to do with you. It has a lot to do with them. Yeah. You know, like the people who are who have been on in their lives if they get a whiff of oh this person somebody that would like he's like somebody that would me that person I'm gonna tear them down

that's where all this comes from you know yeah I see if I'm if I go to a grocery store and every time I realize that the bill's a little bit higher and I realize that they're ripping me off one day I realized they're ripping me off and they rip me off from

fucking hundreds of dollars and then I think them and then I go back to a grocery store they're never there again and I'm like oh where did that person go I have no idea they're not a famous person whatever I have no idea where they are where they are they stole money from me and then I hear about

from some random person hey this guy I was at a grocery store and it was still they saw hundreds of dollars for me you go like this where is that money and this is a random person telling you this this is a random person you don't know telling you this this person could be a

lunatic you don't know this person but you go i'm going to kill that mother for you it's all because of your own it just reignites everything but you're not mad at this other person that you don't even know exists you're mad at the person that ripped you off yeah do you know what I'm saying absolutely it's like all those movies dude it's like all those movies with Liam nison and thenzo Washington you're killing the wrong mother but it's it's it's interesting because it's always it's always like some sort of reflection of yourself though because you're always your your your inability to accept that you aren't what someone says you are it's tough though because the internet it gets sticky because people run with narratives and then they

and then you're like well what the that's not me and now i just have to accept that that person said that i miss and it's like wait a sec yeah and then all these other people are all saying it's like these mrs even know me never met me no yeah and that's the shit part i think that's the part i think because I've experienced this in so many ways in the stupid fitness industry and I'm just like which is why I like to be honest I started making content

somewhat away from it and I really kind of like distance myself which recently I've kind of gone back into it I'm like I really enjoy this again but I distance myself from it because it's just such a place where it was just everyone was you know it's ego driven because it's how you look at toxic yeah

well I don't like that word but you know what I mean but it is stand up same thing it's just like a place where it's like oh that person does this they copy or that person It's just like a space, but anyways, the point is like it's tough because it is just about realizing, okay, like, that's not me. I'm just going to continue. And I think regardless over time, people see that and they go, oh, this person is this anyways, like not what that person said. But the problem with the internet space is that you can, people can create real damage to people's reputation that like is unfixable.

Right. You know, because there's still going to be some idiot who never met you who listened to some other. dumb motherfuck who never met you and they go oh that's true and they go and they see you again they go oh yeah but you hear about this thing yeah it's like and then it's and then it's in it's almost impossible to change people's minds like just period yeah you know people are like walking around and they're 50 they already have their minds made up yeah you're not gonna I've been living 50 years thinking this you're not going to change my mind right so like not me I'm 43 but like uh but like um you know it's like

I don't know how many times sometimes if something happens funny with my kid one of my kids I might post it online and then somebody will be like nice bro trying to rebrand yourself we don't believe it you don't believe what I'm a loving father

yeah like I don't like at some point I just like okay that's you bro that's you yeah like I I don't know what to say to those kinds of things and and yeah it's sometimes you catch you on a a bad day and you're like

this mother you know I don't do that as much as I used to do that all the time I used to write back but like I just I don't even see it anymore I don't even

dude I post and I I don't even look anymore yeah it's just not it's not healthy you know talk go ahead say anything negative

you got to say say it and to avoid I'm not seeing it yeah that's how you got to that's tough to get to though it's very hard and I'm not always there

but I'm there way more dude way more what has helped you with that just because you just get numb to the you do you get numb to it and then you realize actually you know what helped with it a lot is when i went to i went to i went away for like over 30 days i was in this uh like trauma based rehab center and i didn't have my phone and um that helped because i just kind of forgot about everything you're like oh i could be separate yeah yeah it helped for sure damn i mean there are days where I, for days I forget, oh, fuck, I haven't checked TikTok, like, which is, I can't

imagine myself thinking that five years ago. But you'd be on that. Yeah, not TikTok, but whatever it is. Whatever platform. Yeah. Yeah. Is it just because you felt like you, like you, you had to get more, you had to do more? Yeah. And I felt like, and I felt like I was in control of it. I was in control of what, what my narrative is, what I put out there. And you're kind of not, you know? And, and, and, and, And like I said, that's all bullshit. What matters is the people in your lives that know who you are. Yeah. And it's too hard to change people's mind.

So I'm just going to feel how I live and be, you know, try to be a better version of myself as I age and, you know. Well, you're dope, man. You're a good guy. Thanks, bro. Every conversation I've had with you on off camera, you're a solid guy. Thanks, man. Um, to, to your point about the validation, because I was, when I watched a special on your site, I was really interested in the, because it was the way you ended it. Yeah, kind of talking

about that. Um, the validation thing, did that start at like a specific age in your life where you recognize it looking back now? Well, yeah, I didn't realize it was happening, honestly. Like, I didn't realize that I, I, I needed validation from people, um, as much as I did, you know, I knew like I'd like to make people laugh. Yeah. But I just thought that that felt good. And all, like, that's good they're they're laughing you know or or whatever it is and i i thought that um you know i mean i did it in a number of ways i would have sex with so many women because i thought oh this means i'm cool and they like me you know that's like the ultimate way that i thought that they would like me and it's like i didn't i thought i was just being a dude you know but

if i dig deeper and this is something that rehab helped me with it's like it this is all ego like this is all i don't feel good enough about myself and it's fine a lot of people are like that and like i don't want to beat myself up about that but i never wanted to confront myself confront that i i hated all that i hated all that talk all that self-help realization i thought that shit was corny and sometimes it is and a lot of times it is like there's corny versions of it online all the time but yeah but um it's actually something and when i went to rehab for the first time i just remember how scared i was and me thinking living as a cool guy thinking oh i'm going to be the man that's what got me here and now i'm terrified that i'm here and it made me feel

like when i first walked into kindergarten but what were you terrified of in rehab yeah philosophy control like i i i i thought i knew the right way to live and i guess i don't i don't know you know and you know it's really hard to surrender in that way and it's but and and it's hard it's hard as it moves you know people people want you to immediately you know you make a mistake you make mistakes and then it's like okay wait let's actually learn about this let's see what's going on and um how do i become somebody that's not selfish how do i become somebody that's not you know and and they they're not interested in that they just want they just want to be like what the they want they want they want they want they want this is kind of conspiracy theory is but i fully

believe that the people that want that people that are out there canceling people i fully believe that they want they want you to kill yourself i fully believe that that they're not going to be until you kill yourself it's like yeah where else are you supposed to go yeah i mean i don't i think i think that if matt rife did that i think that people those people would be deeply happy and that's really yeah and i think that they would be the same people online that would be like i'm so sorry that he did this so sad it's so sad it's simply you know we need to open up a dialogue and i but i don't think that that's how they believe i think that they because i've been in that and I know how people get treated in that and it's unbelievable dude yeah the amount of death threats

the amount of like it's crazy bro so you know you said I think you said something funny I don't know where it was at but you were talking when you were in your rehab they sent you like a like a hot nurse yeah oh did I said that yeah I must have said it somewhere yeah yeah they did they did you're like what the fuck it was crazy it was like a test I'm like get out of here like the odds of this a lot of them were old ladies and then one of them was just like dude and it was like the fifth or sixth day where I was like I think I'm comfortable enough

I'm like guys what the right and they were like yeah dude it was like it was so funny dude you don't I'm in here for I know but yeah there was one or two even I think I can't I can't

I can't at this point I can know it was over a year ago but yeah so what's the best thing you got out of that uh probably the probably the guy the guys in there like the brotherhood of that like the that they're all kind of going through different versions of whatever you're going through yeah some of it horrific and some of it not that bad and you learn about all their upbringing and just it's just a lot and that that was also that was something that I really

got out of that that was beneficial and another thing that was very beneficial was that trauma in your life is how you experience it not necessarily what happens to you which is crazy to me I never I never I always thought trauma was like what happens

but it's not it's how you experience it and everyone has a different brain you know people can be dramatized traumatized for way different people could be traumatized for stuff that doesn't sound that bad people could be not traumatized from stuff like that didn't traumatize you yeah and it people are different it's how you experience the trauma that makes you feel that gives you the the trauma so it's it's it's like that's something that really because there's stuff that happened in my life that I was I was talk about like man my childhood was awesome and it was and my parents did the best they could and it and just because

something happened to me doesn't mean that either my parents or whoever brought me up or whoever I was in the care of of that time that they're a bad person or that they that they um you know it's their fault yeah it's just who they were and what happened and you know I'm not saying that there aren't bad people out there that course yeah but but you know it's like it's that really was wild to me because after a month of that therapy every day they were just like you know this stuff that happened to you like wasn't okay and I was like yeah it's fine you know and they were like no it's really not and and and and it's like it took me a while of like like man it really actually kind of it's actually not okay that that stuff happened and are you comfortable

Shane what? I kind of I'll touch on it a little bit but it was like it was like stuff that happened with when I was you know younger with like

older babysitters that were like it was like look it's not and this is me being defensive it's not the worst you can imagine but if like the roles were reversed and like it was a guy to a girl or or like it would have been really odd and just terrible so so like um yeah so that kind of stuff you know and it's like I guess that

isn't okay and I always thought like but I'm a guy you know like you know it's just weird so I don't know so like that stuff that happens um you know maybe it wasn't It wasn't traumatic to me, but I still kind of got to learn about it and what it was. It's weird though, because like we do things, I think people do things that when things are actually really traumatic and they, they, like, even the justification that it's not that traumatic is like a somewhat of a blockage of it. Yeah, like, because like when I, you know, you made me think about my, my dad passing. I remember, um, for the longest time, I was like, this is, this is about me and like, this is, you know, maybe I'm not good enough. And I had this idea in my mind that I'm not good enough. like not that he killed himself because I wasn't good enough but like there was a part of me that kind of believe like well am I not good enough for him to stay around and so like you said earlier about understanding where someone's at in their life that was the biggest thing that you know it took

me until I was like I don't know 31 and this happened when I was six to be like oh I get it now because now I lived my life for so long and I understand all these things that happened that people are just fed up with this or fed up with that and like he went through all these different things and I can't judge and we talked about the person's brain and everyone takes everything so differently.

So I was just kind of like it took me so long to be like we just had all this other shit in his life and that was why he made the choice not because of me but it took me

30 years to figure it out well it's you can't comprehend that as a six to 20 year old or whatever it is you know what I mean? Yeah you can't comprehend it you're six and like I don't

but then what's interesting is like what you're kind of doing right now is like but you kind of block it you can kind of block it like because there's a I remember part of me like blocking it and then I think around the time I was like because it felt like almost like six years to like 12 years old I don't remember anything until I was like 12 and then like then I started to think about it a lot when I was like 18 in the gym training and it kind of it pushed me really hard wow but like there was that whole batch of like six to 12 that I was like I don't even remember what I was thinking or feeling and I think gets me being like avoidant of thinking about the whole thing and then as an 18 20 year old when

you're in the gym and you're like I'm using this as energy as fuel that I don't want to get all into it I don't want to think about it so so you got another however many years of blocking it out in that way because you're like things are finally going well for me in this in the gym I was like I could avoid it now and just think of this exactly and it did help me a lot my life obviously where I'm at now of course but like I didn't know that any of this was going to be then I was just like oh I'm just avoiding a problem again right and then I'm now and then so then another 10 12 years later then I was like oh now I'm finally okay with it so I'm just saying to say to people listening like the process of the trauma like you mentioned about it being yeah interesting really like

when you said that because like it's not it happens and you're like oh that's it right it's how you perceive it and the problem is your perception is so changing like not when it happens but you always have to I realize you have to look back like from a you know, from an older age to really have it make any sort of sense. And it just, like, especially if it happens when you're a kid, you can't, you're not equipped to be like, oh, this is why and this is how it is. And not a lot of people I don't think recognize the fact that that stuff is, you know, in a point in time and whatever life, wherever you're at, that, like, you can't always

just discern exactly how it should have been or what it should be. And I think people get caught up. And then, like I said, they push things away and then you never process that. Yeah. And then a lot of people, honestly, that do that become super successful avoiding that shit in, you know, monetarily and like within their career because they're just like, you know. Yeah. It's like, I don't know if I would have. I remember feeling so insecure at such a very young age. If I didn't feel that way and didn't always feel like people were like, oh, it was scared of everything. You wouldn't have tried to get the validation. I don't think I would have been as successful as a comedian. I used that to escape. from that stuff you know yeah so in a way it's like it's you know people romanticize it as like yeah use it as fuel and because like it's a balance you know yeah because like i also didn't know that i was

using it as fuel of course until i was like oh wait i have this is and people think i'm cool right like i wasn't like i'm doing this to use it as fuel so people think i'm cool yeah i did it because i was like i'm depressed and i'm sad about my life and i want to avoid it and honestly it's weird but honestly the stuff that you do like because I work out you know and I I love it I love it but like and I also do stand up and like the two things that those that they have in common for me is when I'm doing them I'm not thinking of anything else exactly like I'm I'm not in my head I am just I'm kind of free in a way which sounds corny but I'm not online I'm not on my phone I'm just kind of I'm either on stage trying to make people laugh

having fun or I'm at the gym and one of the reasons why I'm not thinking of anything is because I'm so exhausted like I'm really going hard and I'm like I gotta catch my breath

and it's like you can't be thinking of things besides the immediate of what's happening you know yeah I'm gonna get this weight up you know exactly so and obviously I'm not fucking out like you are but like I push myself

to the point of where I'm not thinking of anything yeah it's all relative yeah of course right yeah but yeah it's weird man it's weird how things go just life are you do you do you when you're very open about like your father and stuff I know that you we talked about even last time I was on the podcast but like how are you with like that's got to be wild to like what's it like when you see a movie and a character does that like takes their life like is that it used to affect

me a lot more in a way where you wouldn't want to see it or what no in a way that I watch I wouldn't try to avoid it but it would make me think of it like a movie of someone hanging themselves or someone being hung I do immediately think of that Of course you would Yeah my god

That's like the first thought every time Of course yeah Or like you know I mean you watch certain movies Like where the father figure would pass Like the Lion King Like that would fuck me out when I was a kid I remember that Which is one of my favorite Disney movies by the way

But yeah it definitely It definitely would make me think about it Like instantly Even to this day I saw some stupid some war movie and I was they hung some guy and I was like but it doesn't make me sad

the way that it used to make me sad got it got it but I was younger for sure it's definitely like my relationship to it has changed for sure yeah I always wonder about that actually like in movies and TV

and stuff because because stuff like sometimes I'll see stuff on like you'll see when you become a father or whatever if that's in your future I don't know but like when you went and just like

I can't even watch movies with like where stuff happens to kids anymore like we're kids bro also so many movies kids are like they they get like killed i i didn't know that until i had kids i'm like man i never realized it every movie you're like oh dude i got to turn this off yeah i feel that way about dogs i guess because i have dogs i don't have kids yet yeah but i'm sure if i had a kid i'd be like you know i can't watch bro i just every movie i can't even do we're watching a whole christin and my wife were watching a whole thing you know that serious doctor death that's on now it's got it was i don't forget it's on the second

season it's a new doctor and they're doing the thing it's it's a it's really good actually it's on peacock and um we once it's seven episodes and then the doctor is like trying to do it's about the surgeon that ends up every surgery does the person dies they're like it's like a kid comes in and like christie goes like i'm going to bed i can't do this and i'm like we're seven episodes deep we got to finish i just got to google what happens I don't I don't I understand that though I wouldn't want to see it's like I'd rather see like an adult get hurt

yeah I'll see a dog get shot at all yeah on Twitter all day long like dude honestly on Twitter I'm like gotta stop watching this because it's popping up too much the algorithms are insane nowadays how fast they're crazy bro crazy they know when you're on something for one second longer than you normally are

bro it's so it really I'll watch something I'll be like oh I got it's quick out of that and then sure enough the next day there it is again. They know. Dude, they know everything. And remember back,

I was talking to someone about this, remember back when like, they would say like, yo, your phone listens to you and people be like, shut up. No, no,

no, they do. They do. But now like, now everyone literally knows they do. I swear to God. You know, your phone knows everything.

I get out of here. I'm going to go. I'm going to be like suicide prevention. I'm like, dude, they knew I was talking about it. Yeah. Um, yeah.

It's, of course they do. It's crazy. It is crazy. It's wild because it's all a money machine. It's all like how to market and advertise to because they know all the information about you who bought the phone, how old you are, like where you live. Well, that's the thing about how Google, they said Google was really strong and Google was like figuring out what you were doing when Google first started. But once Google created their phone, done, like now they have everything on you because you type in on your phone.

You're taking your phone with you. They got your, your, all your information. It's not just at your computer. You mean the Google phone or is it Apple as well? Google phone. Oh, okay. Yeah. Now that they're in the business of that.

Yeah. Because I think Apple. But Apple has it too. Yeah. I thought Apple was trying to say, I don't know details about this at all, but I thought Apple was trying to say how they're more like less giving your information away. I don't know. I don't have a clue, you know. Who knows?

I guess it's like, dude, my, my information, it doesn't, like, it doesn't really matter, you know, like if you want to, like, unless you're going to steal all my money. like with my bank route like it's like you're just gonna see it but you never see something where you're like you talked about and you see it like I'll get like I go yeah food with food I'm like you want to buy that oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah that had worked oh dude oh dude last night I was in bed I can't believe this happened too I am in I go to bed uh my wife is already in bed and a podcast is on on her phone and I'm like I'm getting ready for bed I'm like that podcast sounds interesting, you know, and she's sleeping. And I'm like, I go to bed and it's like, that's kind of interesting. I'm like, I'm like, now I'm listening to this podcast on her phone, but it's not loud

enough. So I reach over and I turn the volume up a little bit, right? So now it's like, she's passed out. She's out. Okay. I get it. And I turn out the volume a little bit. And I'm like, this is fucking interesting. It was about, I care. It's about some influencer that tried to steal people's money. And it cut, it goes to the commercial in the podcast, you know, like the ad. Right. And it was like, what was it called rocket something is an app where you can they find out everything you're subscribed to and they help you cut your cost and i go really bro i fall asleep i wake up the next morning i look at my phone i forgot i'm like i downloaded this rocket bullshit like i give me shit they got me they got me Dude, I barely remember doing it.

And I've immediately clicked out of it. I'm like, who gives a fuck if I'm giving $3.99 a month to God damn Yahoo? I don't know. You know, whatever it is. I'm like, dude, they're not getting me with that ad, but sure, yeah, it gets me. Yeah, it got me. They get me. I get it with food all the time.

I'm like, you know, and I get mad when Postmates like, want to tacos, deal, $5 off with the taco you got last time. I get mad. I go, shut that shit out. This is, man. But you do get hungry, though. Yeah, no, you got to eat, man. Well, bro, it's been a pleasure. Yeah, you're, you're hilarious.

Thank you, man. Like, genuinely, I mean when I said earlier, you came in that comedy club in the Laugh Factory, and bro, it was different. Your energy is different. Your stand-up is, I was shocked, actually, because I've seen your stuff, but obviously it's always different. A live. Stand-up is a live thing, dude. Yeah, like, and since I had never seen you live, I was like, this is good.

I actually, I think I saw you live, like, also, like, eight years ago once, too. but this I guess maybe because the comparison of the other like the reaction of the crowd and everyone else you came in and it was like oh cool so you're I wish you nothing but success man you're solid dude every time been solid

and if you want come see me on chrisley dot com I got a bunch of dates coming up I'm in your city so yeah that's cool yeah and you got the pod you got the special right now it's called Grow or die the special like I said that it looks it looks specials great I watched it but everything you had around

it like the branding was did you do it yeah i work with a um yeah i i i had a guy that did the art for it and then i have uh like my merch guys that we all kind you know it's a collaborative thing but i have a clear idea of what i want and and and and um i like to i like to do it i think a lot of comedians don't like to do it like to make the merch stuff yeah and i like to do it it's fun for that's good like i saw and i was like this is actually really dope thanks i should i'll send you some yeah absolutely i wish you would the yeah i like doing it and i like wearing it and it's cool and it's like i because i used to think like when before i did merch comedian merch wasn't a big thing like comedians didn't really do it i mean

they do it on the road yeah but like my my agent was like dude you do merch you'll make money i'm like that's corny but then i was like wait i don't have to do it corny no you do it how you want it and then once i did that i started doing it i started you started making a lot of money and then and then other comedians was like i want to have merch like chris lea and then now everyone does merch but yeah yeah I know all about the merch game but no yeah yeah yeah yeah it's good great too yeah but dude it's a pleasure yeah thank you so much appreciate you bro absolutely you're the man thank you yeah