RAWTALK - Tren Twins On Going Natty, Relationships & Conspiracy Theories

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

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hilarious yeah no way yeah just because like i don't want to go to the store i dude i tell myself i'm gonna stop every time so i just buy one tin so i'm like okay um you know i'm this is the 10 this is the one so i don't buy more so i reuse them and then when i run out i'm like fuck i'll go like a day without him and I'm like damn I can't do this shit I love nicotine I do I do but I don't know if you can reuse it actually you want me to just give you a new one no it's fine they're good

I like him better wet like fits better in my mouth but but doesn't even have the same effect because it's got it you have to suck the nicotine out it's got better effect because when they're dry I don't know it just doesn't hit it's hard when it's wet bro all the juices are flowing skin some saliva

I'm gonna try it well this is an honor man Mike Chris you guys are fucking how long has it been no no you're not dumb asses you guys have fucking crushed it to be honest man because I mean I've been in the game obviously for a long ass time but seeing what you guys have done is really cool I mean you're like that OG influencer like I was watching your shit

and like Dom like back in the day it's fucking crazy honestly and then the run with noke bro that shit was hilarious yeah what what were the first people that you guys watched like this inspired you to get into content like where you saw I never, I never, like, planned to do this shit. Like, I never was like, I watched someone and was like, yeah, I want to do that.

Like, I didn't even think it was feasible, right? And then, like, the first, take, no, wait, TikTok was going crazy, like, after quarantine. And everyone was posting. And I was like, you know what, fuck it. And I just posted some shit. It was like me and Mikey, like, bench contest. And we were already in, like. It wasn't even the question.

Whatever, we can let him go. Fuck. Yeah, it develops, bro. It's like, it's a, it goes, you know. Now you're fucking it up. Now I don't even want to finish this shit. not running you got it anyways yeah quarantine happened everyone's back in the gym me mike you posted shit it like happened overnight like i don't even remember the shit it was just i feel like

it happened like overnight but was it so who was more like yo let's do it oh i don't post anything i don't edit nothing i don't post on ticot i only post on snapchat and my own instagram i don't even post on the trend so he's more like yo we got to do this yeah yeah i got i got to like pull teeth getting this guy to do anything i know it's so funny because you yesterday when we're at the whole the crazy ass event when i was talking you guys about coming to the pot you're like 12 and i noticed right away you were the one who was like yo are you gonna are you gonna be there are you gonna be ready he's like yeah why you asking me he's my handler you need one bro you're honestly yeah but lately it's been the roles are being reversed right you got to handle him

yes dude this guy is impulsive of his shit why though on what i don't know it maybe it's all the cycles that have gone to his brain you know what i looked up this this is why I asked you this question yesterday. A trend deletes brain cells. Like, it seeps into your brain. And I feel like lately I've been making... Well, how much trend have you really run in your 24 years of living? Is it really impacted you that much?

Are you sneaking pins behind my back? This guy can't even pin himself. Yeah, I have to pin him every time. You're lying. No. Every time. Yeah, so I know what he wrong. So you do it yourself.

Yeah. And you pin him. Wait, how can you're not just comfortable with it at this point? I don't know. I can't count the mill. and shit like I'll just I'd be fucking that shit up and it's funny because people think we're walking pharmacies but we don't even run that much like sometimes I'll be

like I have notoriously run more than him just because I'll look at his needles I'm like why the fuck you even pinning this this is like not even worth it's like point two on an insulin syringe you know it's my my test I'm like bro this is doing nothing for you so which one of you guys think runs more dear this guy I do for sure that's why he's bigger I promise I promise is why this guy's bigger than me so i'm actually amazed that he keeps up with me it's not like i run like

that much more but maybe i'll have a different compound in than him what's the most you've ever ran uh the most i ever ran was probably before he went to japan spain uh genetic anomaly yeah you know him yeah he's jacked as fuck he big a shit so he stayed at her house for like a month or two after the arnold so we were just literally pounding food in in going to to the gym every day training hard as fuck so i was like you know i'm gonna up my my gear so i was pinning 700 tests 400 mp um for i use of growth like i think i was running was it d ball yeah i was running a little bit of so like yeah no not super droll it was d ball in an anivar and i was just like getting big as fuck but you get so watery for most compounds yeah well you guys asked me about that

the trend thing i've talked about before but i took it for like a week maybe a week and a half and i just i didn't feel good yeah because i was already on test and i was like let me try this and i did feel good when i was training but every other aspect of my life i was like i don't feel good like immediately within the week three days go by and i'm like i'm not good it gets you like a train bro i'll pin that shit right and like immediately brought blood pressure increases heart rate increases like yeah i think that's just from your fear of getting trend cough that you do it to yourself have you ever had that shit i've had it once yeah well it would have been that week yeah no like i thought i was i think i thought i was dying it like affected me for like like two weeks like my lungs and

shit like actually yeah oh and i was just in the moment for like two minutes and it was gone for me i got it one time i'm just sitting there over the toilet like a you know like a 150 pound woman who drank too much thrown up and shit just it was terrible so do you guys so you guys actually you did at one point take trend like consistently but not like i was just on it like if few a few weeks ago and like i was running trend only like no test really just trend only nothing he's a dumb ass nothing going on nothing nothing at all just why because we were we were we were we're we're coach us for a show he doesn't yeah yeah the guy's he does not prescribe us anything he knows we're dumb asses i feel bad because like he's my coach but like i don't listen

and and i just do all this dumb shit and i don't want him to look bad but you listen when it comes to like, I'm assuming the diet and stuff. Prepping and shit. When you get closer. Yeah, yeah. But we were just like experimenting and I was on test and trying to use just on trend. No, because we were coming off, right? We were like, yo, let's take a break for a long time.

Which we have now a month into that are deciding. A month and a half, yeah. To do another. I just started another cycle. So you said fuck the break. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever taken a break?

Yeah. When he tore its peck. Before that, after prep, I took a break. and then who's stronger all time me you want us to like scrap with this podcast no no no no no no no it's me for sure all time yeah is you think it's because he takes more gear yeah no it's not no it's not i promise you i've always been stronger no hang on let me think because when your kids christian was stronger but then he's he's went through this we's all i got to be skinny i don't know if he had a girl oh he want to be lean yeah so i would eat whatever mom made like you know and i was getting big as

fuck and as since then like he's done in his growth or some shit I was always been stronger stunting his growth a little bit yeah no I'm stronger deadlift he's strong a little bit stronger yeah but that's because I don't deadlift bro his first power lifting me this guy was like broke the bench world record or some shit yeah it was 21 I was stronger when I was 21 bro on 250 milligrams a test that was it for three months yeah why do you think that was though that doesn't make any sense because I went from so I was power lifting all like all the time because if we played college football yeah yeah we played college football so by whole life i was powerlifting and then i got into steroids did that meet that meet i think i

squatted 666 pounds and did 500 pound bench had a body weight of uh 185 that's fucking yeah strong so i i did that and then after i wanted to get into bodybuilding and i just stopped strength training and then we were taking bunk-ass gear that we got for fucking free from that dude this Puerto Rican dude he's like yo you want some fucking some free gear dude I'll sponsor you bro I'll sponsor you I'll sponsor you I'll sponsor you he's give you bullshit for yeah yeah in Baltimore I was like yeah shit yeah fucking bro pre shit like the crazy shit you ever ran like nothing crazy and that's the crazy part never ever gone crazy because I've always had this like anxiety around like dying yeah really fear of death when I was especially when I was

younger so whenever I would get to that point where it was I was like I just felt off and I think it was more my mind was doing it to myself than like actually feeling off yeah just because like I said I like really I would have like physical anxiety like there was times I go to the ER like four nights in a row like holy shit it's like you you know you're pinning yourself you know this shit is like fucking you up it's not good yeah I get excited I'm like but I'll answer that question the most I ever did at one point would have been like probably 500 tests maybe like 200 mastron uh I would do like really low amounts of growth but like sporadically not every day yeah it would be like one or two i use when i would do it and i would always do a pre-work out nothing pretty like nothing and then the most

at the same time with those stuff with those those three things would have been anavar yeah would have been annavar and i i had done that more than i should have the amounts i i've done a hundred so oh 100 anvon and so all so imagine all that that would be my peak in your ass with that 100 milligrams of anavar for me i'll tell you straight up was the one thing that i could take anavar and growth those two compounds obviously with like a test based and i would have i would look like night and day if that day if i took it and if i took a little growth and got a pump it'd be like a different person no 100 percent like that's literally all you need and those are the safest i think well i i don't i don't i don't know about growth because

like i feel you got to take a a shit ton to see like long-term gains like it's like expensive as hell it's very expensive yeah but it's it's a car payment bro i'm i'm good i'd rather have another i used to get it really cheap at one point because i had a client who was uh he had like HIV was HIV positive so you used to get it because he would get it tons of it he would just sell it to me super cheap so you want to get catch a no no no no don't do that don't do that no hell no i'm searching but it was cheap though because they get it prescribed and they get tons of boxes so i would buy it but uh yeah dude i i i just remember like having like really just fear why we get crazy shape and i'd feel so good it looks so good but then my mind would

just play tricks on me that's what i do that happens me too and i would pull it back but but okay so i just i find you guys so interesting obviously the whole fucking internet does but like the fact that you guys are twins and like both jacked and you're both really into working out but who really pushed it who was the person like which one of you was like this is this is the thing like because there's tons of twins they're not all jacked they're not all looking this like very similar like obviously you look this similar because you're twins but the fact that you're both jacked is like yeah unique well we're clearly compensating for our height whatever who cares it was i don't know we're just no i can remember vividly vividly bro i'm watching dragon ball

on the couch like this i'm like looking at these fuckers i'm like trying to go super saying i started doing some push-ups bro like no joke like that's and i was like just started working out since then like so you guys both fell in love with it yeah like i'm like he's he started doing pushups and shit and we had like these 10 pound dumbbells when we were like 13 two of them and we just literally would steal them from each other and like fight over him and we just started benching the the bed frame we get under their bed and start benching it that's tough and it turned into like like i couldn't if i seen him doing some shit you're like i've seen him doing it i'm like i had to do it I didn't even want to do it.

I'm like, bro, he's doing this. Like, I feel like a fat piece of shit. You always felt competitive. Yeah. Oh, so when we were younger? Like, he's eating more than me. I'm like, fuck, dude. I got to keep going.

When we were younger, it was nonstop. Like, we always had to beat each other at fucking everything. And did you play sports? Did you play sports as well? Yeah. What did you play? Did you play football as well? Yeah, we played football, track, baseball, wrestling.

Yeah. And, yeah, we played college football, lived in their dorm together. Oh, it was funny because I was on defense. I was a linebacker and he was running back. So everybody would love to see us like go against each other. And it was the funnest thing ever just, but it's hard to hit like you'd think it'd be hard to hit your brother as hard as you possibly physically can. But I didn't, I didn't care. No handouts.

I'm smoking his ass. If he's running around across the middle, I'd, yeah, tap his ass. So is this like, you? You guys are young, you're growing up, you're into working out, like, clearly competitive. Did you ever think your lives would be this way? No, bro. I thought I was going to the NFL, bro. Like, just a dumb ass.

I wanted to go to the NFL. I was like, I was always benched in 225. That's why we really started getting into working out because, like, we had to be fast, had to be strong. Yeah. I had to, like, prove to everybody. Like when, because when on the field, dude, I remember I'd get called a midget missile, muscle, hamster, all types of shit. They'd try to get your fucking head. But I would just use that energy, like, to piss them off even more.

And, like, every game, the coaches will come up to me and say, like, great job, son, whatever, smack my ass. Wait, what, that just didn't, how did you get to that point? I don't fucking know. I'm trying to understand why you said that, but it's not clicking. Like, I don't know. I think you just wanted to, like, hype yourself up a little bit there. No, they were, they were hyping him down. He's competitive, you know?

Yeah, but I'm, I would use that, that. Now you fuck me up. Fuck you. Okay, well, let's move on. You guys are fucked, dude. So why do you think people love you guys so much? I think because we're unapologetically ourselves. Like, I think, like, the same person I am everywhere else I'm on the camera.

Like, it's like, no, I'm apologetic. Sometimes I'm a fucking asshole. Yeah. To apologize for it. Like, when I called that, that, what was it? That girl said something about me working out. Yeah, that was, you were a dick for that. And I said, as much of you to do.

She's like, so how many times a week you work out? And Mikey says, wait, what did you say? You said, as much as you eat double cheeseburgers or some shit. Anyways, I felt like a piece of shit after that. People were making edits out of it, and I felt so bad. Oh, you said that shit on camera? On that one app where you've- No megal or something.

Okay. With Alex. Alex was recording it, and then it went viral. And I felt so bad for the girl. I found her and de-emned her and shit and said, sorry. I bought her a car. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, you're not told you, buddy.

Yeah. So, so you guys like the fitness industry? Yeah, I think it's really niche. And I think... No, not anymore. I mean, no, bro. The way this shit has developed, like, when you're era, no one's talking about Roy's, right?

Now it's like, it's cool to be a degenerate and fucking, like, be on all this shit. Well, you started that. Yeah, I mean, we always said don't take this shit, though. Now it's like, it don't even matter, bro. Like, even have a chance you've got to be on that shit. Yeah, do you guys think you started that? I hope not.

motherfucker i hope not we were the first bro that's i feel like why we also got like hello like subscribers besides i think the obviously the very first person to talk about that stuff would have been rich piano yeah yeah rich piano for sure but new era definitely you guys like the trend thing i i i'll never forget i remember being like you know every single kid is talking about trend yeah yeah now i get dms i'm like shut up i'm trend at 15 years old i'm like buddy you got no clue what this shit is it's poison that's good at build no when you know it's crazy you grab that bottle bro and

this shit is like diesel like you this shit is orange bro yeah it's not dark orange huge i don't know i don't know how you have to be insane but really want this shit to pin yourself with that shit like but you see how a lot of kids now they like they they they go right to it or they go right to gear in general they're not even thinking about like how long have they actually been working out do they die it right that's the only thing that i'm like dude these kids are it's fucked it's a I just feel bad because, like, they're doing all that for nothing. Because, like, if you don't have those things in order, it's pointless. It's not going to do shit.

You got to have your diet, your training. Well, they'll take it, and then they'll start comparing themselves to other people on steroids. Now you've entered that category. No better at what little amount. Now you're being compared to motherfuckers on steroids. You're being compared to prime Ronnie Coleman. It doesn't matter. Anyways.

And then they take it and they don't, they think they're going to get huge, whatever, no side effects. you know months go by you're getting big and then you look back a year later your fucking hair lines are seated you're depressed you don't know what the fuck is going on with your hormones you regret it so that's literally like 90% of people like bro people's experience with steroids it's not just oh you take it you get this extreme confidence you know your sex drives up yeah that's true but now you're jerking off to weird ass porn not me personally i just know you No, I just know people who went through that shit. It was hilarious.

You're having sex with a fat woman. You don't care. Like, it's just. Brad, you ever been with a big, bigger lady? But this is well before steroids when I was 16. Yeah.

Yeah. It was the end of the night thing that I was just like, fuck it. Why not? I feel like you like. But not intentionally. I'm not intentionally trying to find them. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like since you're a bigger guy, right? How tall are you like six? Six three. Six three. Yeah. Like, like.

It's for the lore. Yeah. You got, you just have to, bro. Like for me, some of these normal-sized women, I'm climbing a tree, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can go way up there, bro, and still, like, be at, like, a good level for you, you know, what I'm saying? Yeah. Speaking of women, you had a little, you had a little issue.

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from your perspective what happened. Okay. And why did it become a problem? But if you ever been to a strip club and genuinely like, oh, I'm grabbing tits. I'm throwing ones. No, the internet's acting. We're fucking stroking. It's like a joke. It's like a meme. Normally I go and I'm like, what am I doing? This is the worst thing. But I want to get the fuck out. I've been it. Bro, what's crazy is like one of the first times I hung out and giggling and shit. This shit's so ass. We, you know what the first times I hung out with Carly, we went to a strip club as a gag like that that's crazy right yeah that's pretty insane you lose them how you get them that's so true that's the truest it's so true that's so

fucking yeah how it starts is how it ends you know i would never go to like do any of that really yeah yeah i don't enjoy it too much it's just yeah what about your do you you like doing it you like going to shit well hey man yeah no i mean for me it's just like it's funny and shit it's cool but like i can go see tits online if i really wanted to yeah yeah it's it's stupid let me go pay fucking uh go in the back room pay 100 bucks to get a lap dance get hard and then go home okay it's weird man i mean even just the whole the whole only fans thing it's all the stuff in general how it's just like it's it's old guys bro it's all old guys it's all old horny lonely dudes that's the the only fans problem the fucking strip clubs like you go there and you could

see it. Bro, didn't, wasn't Charlie Sheen, like one of, uh, what's her name's biggest, like supporters, like he gave her millions and millions of fucking dollars. That's the type of motherfuckers that are paying for this shit, bro. Rich old dudes. It's like the fetish, bro. Chronically horny, fucking lonely-ass old men who fucking, I've been divorced two or three times.

The kids don't love them. Like, they just, that's, that's where they're getting the money from. Yeah. It's like a fetish. So, like, oh, I'm rich. here's my money what's what we'll switch subjects a little bit though what what is get off the girl stuff a little bit um what do you think is the most fun you guys have had while while making content dude oh shit bro like best video best best best it's honestly just when me and christian are like

not fighting yeah no the best era bro fuck it was in the beginning when we gave even less fucks we didn't really care you care more now i guess yeah i mean i care about the quality we didn't we had this gym bro and it was the best gym ever like perfect all black we'd go there at night and it's like a sauna it's literally probably the size of this fucking room and we would just fucking goon and just record it no one's in there but not actually goon you mean workout yeah yeah okay just want to make clear that up and uh we got fucking banned so we couldn't go there anymore but because literally the gym became like semi famous and like people would be waiting outside would come from Canada because michigan's right there yeah they'd come to their

gym and wait there all day for me and christian come there night they left reviews like all the entire internet left reviews on this gym muscle gym and it was all talking about me and mikey and it was like just funny as shit there's these twins that live in the vents and they fucking like give out trend or like these twins are like fucking up the gym like can you please kick him out like just trolling us yeah and then i don't know they people would call like prank call they just kicked they're like yeah you you got you can't come here anymore they were sick of it is when you guys go to Have you gone to, like, regular gyms, like 24s or, like, L.A. Fitness? What is that like?

Oh, you can't go there, bro. You can't even work out, man. I can't get a pump because, like, I can't tell someone know about a picture. Yeah. So I'm, like, I'm, like, taking picks, trying to get a pump. And, like, I mean, I get it, bro. If I've seen fucking, like, I don't know. Rich Bionna in the gym, like, I'd definitely get him, get a picture with, bro.

No, I don't want to take a picture. I get mugged. I don't want to know. Rich. Yeah. Yeah, no, I would take a picture, but for me, I've ever met Rich? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's training him with him. Gosh, damn.

North Hollywood, Cole's Gym. Yeah, that had to be sick. What was he like? He was a good dude. He was just like a jet, like off camera, everything, just a solid person, a good guy every time, say hi, say bye every time. Really good person, man. Wait, how did you get into like this shit through? Because like, it wasn't even a thing when you did.

Yeah. Well, man, I just, I was a trainer. I was training at the end of my training career I was training like celebrities but essentially I just remember always looking at like what's happening next in the world and they were this is so I sound so old talking about this

but they were space and shit yeah well they would talk about how like you know social media is going to change the world and it's going to change e-commerce and all this shit so this is back in like it must have been 2008 right I'm just getting out of I'm just getting out of high school 2007 I graduate and so I'm like constantly trying to figure out what am I going to do with my life and I was always into the gym like from from 15 I played sports my whole life and then 15

I got really serious kind of about the gym but didn't lift serious and then 17 I was like okay I need a squat bench and deadlift and I took that I found some people who showed me some stuff and I just stuck to it yeah and I got I got developed pretty quickly like my shoulders grew pretty fast my arms grew pretty fast people would always be like you should compete and do all this stuff and essentially what what happened was I was I remember just I would read on this this uh website about like new um e-commerce stuff and they were like this app Instagram is going to like be big oh yeah I was like okay cool so I downloaded it and I remember I would just go around the gym telling people to like follow me on Instagram and they would have the androids to be like I can't

even download the app that's how old it was and so all I did was I mean what post pictures of transformations because I had clients in real time in person and then myself and like I got like I'll never forget this I've told the story before but I I would compete also at this time so I remember I was at one of these shows one of these John Lindsay shows in in Santa Monica I remember walking down the aisle and someone was like that's the guy with 10,000 followers on Instagram you know like that's how OG it was and so again there's no videos it's just photos and most people used Instagram just to like get filters for like Facebook posts. That's the time, the era that I started in. So I remember I linked up with account at the time, one of the biggest fitness accounts outside of mine, which was called

Instagram fitness. And I did a giveaway for like online coaching. And then I then I started to really blow up. And there's still at the time there's no video. But when I really blew up was when video came out. Because like, you know, people had liked the way that I look because I had like abs and I would take selfies and shit all the time. Totally. Completely fuck boys. There's tons. There's tons like they my friends make fun of me now i look at now i'm like holy shit i can't believe this but uh glory days yeah dude making the stupid duck faces and shit yeah um and then uh video came out and because i was also strong like i did like the jumping out of the pool went viral like i just started doing all this viral shit and i was like oh this is really

working and back then you grew way faster because it was less saturation the app was like actually chronological like when you post you knew to post at like five because everyone would be on their phone yeah and there was there was on the explore page it was six different explore pages not like a million everyone has their own now right yeah so if you got on the explore page you get like a hundred thousand followers in like six hours because everyone who had the platform it could only go through six pages so if you got on there it was like you're up yeah and then i went from that to training i wanted to get into youtube and i started training foosey tube and he was with the biggest YouTuber at the time prankster and I got him in shape he put me on like two videos I

I think I had like 25,000 subscribers on my YouTube before I even had a video wow so and then I just I just kept going and I just kind of get with you know what I enjoyed and what worked and it was like lifting girls and all this crazy shit but I didn't plan for it like you said I was not at all being like I'm going to be a because there wasn't a fitness influencer like I was the beginning of that shit bro you did yeah it's weird it's super weird man and then I talk to so many people now who are like I watch you these guys are like 30 like I'm 36 and they're like they have kids and family I watch I have a business I do fit like it it does trip me out you guys you guys will get there too obviously I know there's tons of people who are like now you know

the 17 year olds watching you now that you'll probably meet when you're 30 to be like they're going to be doing what you're doing just like how I conversated with you guys like you guys probably watch some of the original shit and you're like oh I've seen this guy I seen it I started watching your shit like when you uh started doing shit with Dom yeah that was like nine years ago yeah 10 years ago man that shit was so fun but I didn't plan for it and I think the people who like really really become successful because a lot of people now they they that's all they want is it yeah they want to be a fitness influencer I want to be popular and they ask you they probably ask you like oh how do you how do you become every fucking day and it's like you can't

even explain it because you just it just has to happen it's like luck with preparation yeah you just have to you just have to I don't know yeah you either I think you I think some people just have the it thing, which is like, I think you can develop it and a lot of people can force it because fitness is very like just it's visual. It's like if you look a certain way. But I think now it's very hard to maintain popularity. Like if you notice now there's like your era, there were still a bunch of people coming up and then they kind of fizzle. But now people come up and they go bam, fast because they don't they don't have anything else that actually makes people go, oh, they're actually cool. Like I like their personality. I like. the things they talk about and you guys have done a really good job at like just being actual bros like being actual people yeah and i think that's the best part about it our uh youtube channel is just literally just us being bros the good end the bad um yeah like i've fucking punch this guy as hard as i could no i wish i think that was our most viral video i think no i wish sometimes we had a camera on us oh yeah because we we fight so much like we used to except

especially during prep bro i remember the day after he gave me the black guy he was screaming downstairs i was like i was like fuck you whatever so i hear him literally throw the chair down on the ground i got up bro i's down stairs i got up throw the chair like i fucking like w w e this bitch threw it at the fucking ground just because he like pissed me off i run as fast as i can up the stairs he like hears me he like prepares oh yeah i'm already in the stance i jump up to like me fucking kick him in the face bro and he catches me and like spins me and throws me into the fucking wall boom big asshole in the wall had to fix it yeah and then you started me whipping me with your keychain bro that's why do you guys why do you guys

mostly fight what triggers most of the fights i think i feel like it's because he's a pussy he's got a mangyna oh my god he's got a mangina it's because like when you have a twin it's literally like the out-of-body version of like your fucking inner self kind of like that's another you and like imagine yeah if i'm having a bad day sometimes i'll just take it out on that motherfucker bro just like this no no filter like you have no filter with that guy and then it and then he says the same shit to you and like it just it's bound to fucking like he didn't even do none i was like i'm like fuck this guy man it's like what you're mad at yourself or what oh yeah it's just like bro sometimes you want to be alone bro and this guy's over here fucking screaming i don't think i've yeah

i've lived with this guy for since we came out the womb like we went to we played college football went we shared a dorm for three years shared an apartment for two years we now we've lived together for i don't know since forever and at this point it's like i've seen this guy sometimes i feel like it was me that ruined your relationship bro because i lived there like it's all because you if i didn't have you to like tell me like i mean i just go with the flow so like sometimes i be getting disrespected and mike you be like what the fuck is going on like i don't know so are you the one rational one you think uh yeah as long people might not think it But yeah, I think I'm the more rational one.

Do you think he's the more rational one? Oh. Maybe in some cases. Yeah, it's like, it's, yeah, you know, some of them. Some of them, yeah. Not in, not in Japan. No, we're enabling. Not what I've seen this guy do.

No, we're enablers, bro. We enable each other. Like, be like, damn, bro, I want this scat pack, bro. Like, I want to just whip this shit and beat the fuck out of it. I'm like, dude, that'd be fun as fuck. I want to spray painting it. And I won't draw a penis on the side. Like, I just ordered a fucking.

card to like or like bro look at this gun bro look at this shit it's fucking dude bro you want to you want to take some trend bro like let's let's take some trend dude let's just go all out this last this last month and before we come off bro we're gonna come off or you want a six pack or crumble bro like let's just do it bro fuck it and then oh that's the worst i'm prep bro so it's fun yeah it's fun having someone like that with you but damn it bro like it's bad at the same time i remember on prep bro we we was cheating like three three weeks out bro we fucked up eating like 6,000 calories oh and bro we'd be like damn we'd try and keep it healthy right you're like damn this shit's fucking ass bro we cheat right let's go get fucking ice cream or some

shit and you ever done that where you like that you like cheat on your diet with a nice like a clean meal and you're like dude fuck this that didn't satisfy shit I'm just gonna crash out oh yeah but my biggest mistake when I diet because I'll diet so well but then I'll have things that like for like almond butter and I'll eat the whole motherfucking jar like when I'm really prepping I'm like I just ruin my fucking diet. I know exactly what you're talking about. You start and you're like no it's pretty

good I can't do this and you're like I can stop bro that bix is gone and you know you're just fuck it's like on your meal planned tablespoon of almond butter I'm like oh yeah you start with a tablespoon bro I've eaten so many jars and I'm always like I wake up next morning like what the fuck did I do

fuck man so I have a question about the twin thing if who do you think like if you didn't have a twin like if you guys were just you and you were just you who do you think would have made it that's a good question definitely not me because Mikey would have never even took the initiative bro I'm telling you bro this guy I didn't we would have never posted anything it was oh yeah because on TikTok it would it would be like him making videos he'd always be like yo come take this video I'm be like no bro I'm getting a pump bro don't fuck on my pump right now and then like we are literally recording what you're doing

Yeah, they didn't even know, he got like 100K on TikTok. They didn't even know he had a fucking twin brother. Because he wouldn't do it. He didn't do it. He, he, he, he, he, he, he blew up off that bachy, dumbass bachy shit. Oh, yeah. With that anime shit, dumb shit. You know bachy?

Yeah, of course. Yeah, like him trying to look like bachy. And yeah, they didn't even know he had a twin. I remember he got sponsored by, we got sponsored by gorilla mine by myself. It was code bachy. Like, what the fuck? That shit is gay as shit. But like, it was at the top.

That shit. I don't, I just remember that. Yeah, I got, fuck you, man. I did this shit, not you, bro. Fuck you. I give credits where it's due, man. So you think if you were just you, you could have done it. You would have done it.

I guess I did. I guess mine. Damn. And then he's wanting the product. I'm like, all right, bro. And then we, so we start the YouTube, get like 50, 100 K subscribers. And Gorilla still doesn't know that I have a twin. So I'm like, I hit him up.

I'm like, yo, can we get like two pumps instead of one? Like I'm already out. This is my brother's using this shit. And then they're like, holy. fuck you have a twin like what is going on here and then yeah it because i remember it i saw you guys i was like this is insane yeah i just thought you guys were both jacked you're both strong as fuck i was like this is remember the one of like our first viral videos was benching at zoo yeah yeah that shit was that was fun that was nuts man i think that was our first like public

appearance yeah and they made this edit and no motherfuckers didn't know we were that short for it i made jokes about being short that was our first appearance like outside of like you know it's I'm so shocked to this day I still get comments of people saying five five activities or just some shit like that I'm just like well first of all hang on you've never seen a short three-fourths okay five seven with shoes five almost five which one's taller like a half inch yeah damn I'm like I'm basically five seven right like five six and like three fours this basically five seven I'll take that every day I need every little centimeter I can yeah you know what I'm saying it's not about the size of the man

It's about the size of his heart. That's right. Yeah. It's a fact. Definitely not the size of balls. If you got a big cock, you know, woman will fuck with you. Yeah. You got to get him to that point, so I guess never mind because then, yeah, you can't just

walk around with your cock out. No, you can't. I'm not good with any advice with women clearly, so do not listen to me. I don't even approach. Has you guys ever compared? Bro, we have the same cock. We're identical twins, bro. Boy, no, we don't know that.

He's a little taller, though. So? I'm a half inch tall. That doesn't mean you're A half inch bigger What if mine's bigger Like lengthwise Dude I've seen your shit bro

Soft You never seen my shit hard Bro you had sex next to me In the dorm room bro Oh yeah What the fuck are you talking about? This shit was crazy We'd be like

I'm like damn We really are This guy wouldn't leave the room bro And like What I had my headphones I'm watching a movie Facing the other way This shit

Wait you got to hear I got to hear this story I was watching saving private Ryan Bro I'm like I turn over I'm like Chris Bro this movie's good as fuck Because you're college dorm room Yeah got it

Yeah, and I'm like, Chris, you got to watch this movie, bro. And I turn over, I'm, he's hitting back shots on Shoddy. And that wasn't the only occasion. I remember another time. No, this shit is crazy. I'm coming out of the shower, bro. The dorm room showers. The door's locked.

I'm soaking wet, bro. I start smelling something. It smells like fucking sex. Dirty-ass fucking sex. Dirty. And I hear a moaning and shit. I'm sitting. Everyone coming out of the dorm rooms like, yeah, I'm looking, everybody, all the football players.

We're all like in the same dorm. they all come start listening shit giggling like ah she giggling and i'm just in there like fuck this shit sucks i'm going there and smells like fucking pussy and balls no you know what's crazy is i had this girlfriend around that time and i would always we'd always i'd do it right in the room and like if mikey was in there or not come on you're gonna bring this up i'm sorry this is this is really like bad to say but we had no filter bro mikey's there don't matter it doesn't matter who's there really it was just like that young love she was our tattooed You don't have to give out any details.

I don't want her to like get out any details. I don't want her to find out who this is and like be like no. So yeah. Anyways. She's cool. She's cool. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. So Mikey's seen this shit multiple times. No, stop. Don't bring this stuff. And then and then I break up with I was drunk. And buddy hits her up like buddy comments hard eyes on her. No, I was drunk. I was drunk. And like you see me clap her cheeks multiple times. It's fuck because you're twins. Yeah. I was like, so fuck. And then and then, uh, I remember they got back together, whatever, and I was going to, and then Christian broke up with her, and I was getting a tattoo by her, and she's, I ain't even going to bring this up, bro, whatever.

No, every time I break up with a girl some shit, like, they always hit up Mikey after. It's crazy. I think I'm going to fold or some shit. They're going to get revenge. They want to get revenge on me. That's crazy. That is a little crazy. It's crazy, yeah. That happens often? Like, I think three or four times, right? Yeah. You don't fold, though. No, and everyone's... Yeah, that's fuck.

That's crazy, man. They just are evil, dude. They, bro, they truly are. A great man can get taken to his knees by a fucking woman, bro. It's a fact. You know? Look at Adam and Eve. Yeah, shit the world, bro.

It's because sex is so fucking good, man. I don't blame the guy. He's like, what are the guys, bro? No, I would never cheat. Like, I'm not easy to succumb to lust. You know, I'm irrational. and yeah you know you are bro you're great man is there is there is there anything that you guys have ever like that has happened off camera that was like really fucked up that you guys don't

talk about oh not not not with girls not oh yeah like there's some shit that i can't say ever like no back in the time that i've been like uh influencer YouTuber yeah there's definitely shit that has happened like that we got lucky all glory to god because like there's no way we're making out of those situations have got nothing that is like a weird like rape or like any of that shit but like you didn't even have to bring that up well no I don't want people to think pedophile shit or nothing like that

oh fuck no nothing like doctor disrespect bullshit uh just like shit that I've done retardedly um yeah crashed a few cars yeah I got a few car stories too not me personally but a friend of mine story we can never tell it's pretty funny

we'll tell us someday I'll tell him to death then maybe after this yeah yeah i'll tell i'll tell you guys after this um so you guys like the fitness industry though over i like it i mean people now they're always like oh fitness industry yes now it's changed so much but real realistically it's not changed because what is it it's just people lifting you know so it's you just you just got to get back to your roots and realize it's not about ego it's not about steroids it's about why do we love lifting because it's dedicating it's giving us a purpose. So for me, I love that. Like, God will never stop lifting. You're the same way.

Yeah, 100%. You'll never stop lifting. You're still jacked as fuck. So that's just what it is. The bad part about doing it as a job is like, then you, it's no longer that for me. Like, I can't work out without like, damn, I want to fucking record. I look fucking amazing. Like, I wish I was recording this shit right now. Like, that's my, I can't just work out and like not, you know, like, just lock in and like not think about doing the YouTube video. So it's made it harder. Yeah. And then I'll go to record a YouTube video.

I'm like, I fucking look like shit right now. Like I'm fucking pissed. I should have recorded yesterday. Yeah, that's definitely been the harder thing like all my ears of doing this where it's like it's not the same. It's like when the cameras are off.

It's never the same, man. No, it's not. It affects the way you like lock in because you have to have this like performative sort of like I got to make sure I'm here doing this. Right. But I guess I mean so in the fitness industry as far as like the people like

because I noticed one thing. about you and I had the reason I asked the question was that you guys don't fuck with too many people yeah yeah you don't make content with tons of creators this is like my first time like this last few months like doing it like we just record them and they honestly aren't aren't aren't even like strictly fitness people yeah no i just i don't know no i was like toji he's cool as fuck i'm i'm fuck with him having you're not answering their question isn't no yeah because like what is fitness it's it's ego i mean i guess you have to sort of have a ego Jay Cutler said it before, right?

Like, you kind of have to have an ego to compete to try and look better and stuff. But I don't think it's purely like purely based on that. So you didn't, you thought that people were too egotistical. You didn't want to film with it. Because I never heard that. It's not what? No, I don't know. We just, I don't know.

I just kept my distance because all I needed was this guy in camera. Yeah, honestly, that's basically it. It's just I'm lazy as fuck. I don't want to leave my house. Lazy as shit. And not traveling. I fucking hate it. it dude because you're traveling so much you get off your diet you look water your shit uh fucking

workout suck like i love traveling seeing different places meeting new people but it's just like when i'm trying to like film and like look good like traveling fucks it up like i just didn't care to like travel like if you live close to me like i mean even when we lived in l.a we didn't really do anything so i don't know maybe i just i just didn't want to but yeah what what uh and again whatever you guys if you guys want in or don't want in you can you can can cut this part if you could put us time stamp here but um what happened with the alex you bank i think i think it was just uh i don't know it was weird i didn't know shit about fitness i didn't even really know who alex was but i came down there

seen i was living he was cool as fuck it was just strictly bro shit at first like we were bros and like he was cool as fuck it man let's just run the shit and it was so fun dude when i live with Alex at first it was so fun bro i think he's just too business oriented mindset wise and i saw that me and christian saw that and we just no no no no that's what it is for me i just didn't want to no you know what it was hop um i don't know i don't know i just wanted to we were living there for like six months of this bro we just had a camera in her fucking we just had a camera in her face all the time i didn't want to do with that shit so it was never like that bro it was never like Alex was never disrespectful I just wanted my own space after like six

months of living with him and like I don't know at the time I don't know I feel like I was overreacting at the time like I thought he was kind of like um like he because some people were in my head like oh he's trying to use you for cloud like you got to get out of there bro he's using you but at the time like we're just fucking bros and shit and like I still feel that way I still love Alex, but I hate some of the shit he posts, bro. I feel like he's like, I don't know. He's too business oriented, bro. Like, he just needs to be himself, really.

Because he, yeah. Yeah. What, you feel different? Maybe it's me and Chris. I don't know. I don't know. I feel, you just say whatever, I'm filtered and then maybe it'll sound better than what I just said. I don't even know.

You felt like it was just like focused on like just content, making content. It was too focused. like it was it was two focuses on content yeah and like when me and christian record it's just us being bros you know what i mean i didn't know what i didn't know how to adapt like multiple like it was super fun and i'm really grateful and stuff but we just like we are working with steve his manager whatever and then i've talked to other people and i found someone else who who is like my family now yeah like their family to me like my best interest at heart you've met steve right yeah yeah he's literally like Alex is Alex is like his his son actually like at the end of the day

he's always going to have Alex's best interest over ours yeah so we just moved on from that and in uh no yeah it wasn't anything like crazy like oh fuck Alex this and that no no a lot of people i don't know i'm trying to think bro like i'm trying to think because like dude you're all all over the place man i am i am because at the time you need adderall bro no i just you had adderone i don't take it i i'd love adderall really and coke no yeah and but i don't take we're on that mike metzer method i'm just kidding i can see why he he did that shit yeah he was not tom plats did it too bro you can't tell me the video of tom plats he's like you gotta fucking do it like no he can't tell me he wasn't on coke when he's doing that shit it was fucking tough like

damn that shit gets me like i don't do it regularly but like if i don't do it regularly but like if i Like, if I come across that shit, then, you know. Really? I've always avoided, I was always afraid of doing both, you know, being on steroids and doing that. Yeah. Oh, it's not like, I've only done it at a party. Like, you, it's just like, freak out like fucking, but then, yeah. Do you think I should do it?

Yeah, bro. If you try, if you try to enable me now. No. If you want to like, wait, have you ever hit a big lift on Coke? No, no, no, okay. That's a dream come true. No, I'm going to you. yeah so okay anyway i was just curious because like i i just

again from the outside looking in i didn't know much about it i just heard stuff no i don't we don't do coke we don't no not the coke i'm talking about the whole fitness relationship stuff and just how it just seemed like you guys were you guys disused yourself no at first you know what i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lie dude i didn't want to record with anybody i was overreacting i was a pussy and i just what do you mean you were pussy i just i don't know i didn't want to go out i didn't want to travel like i said i was lazy and i feel like i don't know i didn't go to shit like young away there was like events and shit i felt like i didn't want to go to shit i just was so lazy like all i'd want to do is record my own videos and like i felt like

if it was anything i was doing anything else it was a waste of time i think it helped in the long run though yeah i think you guys being more isolated did help yeah yeah for sure because seems like the the best content some of the i know for sure the best content you guys have made has been just you too yeah you know it's not necessarily a bad thing i just the fitness industry is interesting because obviously I've been in it forever and I it's just a very like I mean you worked with Alex are you guys still cool I'm not not cool with Alex I just you know I just understand certain people's intentions and like what they're like you said what their focus is it's it's money and if it's money then there's more to it than that of course we all want to

make money we all want to like yeah there's our kids through whatever college whatever this and that yeah I literally I'd feel like Alex helped me a lot I love them but it was just I just had to go do my own thing that's how it started and that's how I wanted to keep doing it. And like after like six months of living there, it was fun as hell, but I just had, like we had Bain, right?

Oh yeah, we had Bain. He fucking chewed up this fucking piece of the wood that we were living in this like fucking expensive house, chewed up the banister. Oh, we got fucking sued, had to leave.

That's why I ended up leaving overall was because they wouldn't allow the pit bull at this point. Yeah. So then I just dipped and then I just never really talked to Alex again. And it was kind of like, it was rough for our relationship and um i feel bad because i don't know i don't hate him or anything i don't want people to think that but yeah no i don't i don't i don't hate him i don't hate anyone i just for me it's just like i've done it for so long i just know when like someone's

intentions are like about something specific or you know about like an actual relationship that's a little different he definitely like knows his worth and he'll get every fucking penny for it yeah even if it's over That sounds like Steve. Yeah. Yeah. Because Steve is like his like dad, like he's his family. So he's going to do that shit.

Yeah, I get it. Like I respect it, but damn, motherfucking like. Yeah. I love Steve though. He, he, he, a grinder. So, okay, off this a little bit. With your own personal stuff, like with your own personal brands and everything. Do you guys have like, do you have bigger goals for it or is it just like?

Yeah. Yeah. Like I love it, bro. Like it's, it's the greatest feeling. having some shit that you own yeah like you know what i mean it's it's your baby almost so i want to grow it as much as i possibly can of course i'm not the smartest person i don't know how to do this shit so we got like the best people in the fucking world helping us because they they're like family they're like family and our like the dude formulates it fucking his wife is the flavor

chemist like it's just it's beautiful and we just tell them oh we want this flavor and Like, I was like, I want the strongest pre-workout. I want the strongest three-workout that's not going to give me sued. We put, like, fucking almost 700 milligrams of caffeine in this bitch. 7,000 milligrams of beta. Oh, shit. But, yeah. You can't use DMA anymore.

Yeah, that shit's fucking ass. You can't use it, bro. Like, what? I mean, they used to put steroids back in the pre-recout. You were probably using it. Yeah, back in the day, yeah. Yeah, Jack 3D? Yeah.

Oh, my God. The world were growing in 2008 or whatever, man. You're taking Jack 3D, bro. Bro, I used to take it for real. It was like meth in there, right? Literally, yeah, that's what the DMA shit is. So you have taken Coke then? Apparently, yeah.

Well, no, I've done Coke once. I've actually, but the reason why I never did Coke after that was because it made my dick not work. I was trying to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah, because I was going to have sex. And I took it because everyone's like, yeah, we're doing this.

And then I knew that that was coming. And the girls were trying to get me to do it. And then I was like, okay, yeah, like in the moment, I'm like, it must have been like 21. And I was like, yeah, fuck it. I'll do it. And then I did it. And then I did it.

And then I tried to go do the deed, like, right after. And it didn't work. So I was like, this isn't for me. Yeah, no, anything that's fucking my dick, I'm good. Yeah. See, I'm not, like, really in the party game or anything. Like, I'll always, I just like, that happened to me, too. Like, I didn't really know.

That happened to you? Yeah. And Adderall, too, bro. Took Adderall. I don't know shit about this shit. Couldn't get hard. Oh, yeah, Adderall. I'm, my peers like this, bro.

He's dried up. It's going inside, bro. I don't know why it does that. And I don't want to eat. You don't want to eat when you're in Adderall, but... Yeah, well, I even take that. Why did you ever guys get into that? Just for, like, meetups.

I only take it when I'm doing meetups. You got to lock in, bro. You know you got a long... Because I want to get... I want to talk to people and actually be aware of what the fuck I'm saying. Yeah, I get it. Because, like, at the last two hours, you're just like a fucking zombie. When I take it, it just helps me...

Yeah, I understand. Have you guys ever faked content, ever? Fake content? Fake, made fake content. One time with that one dude who bumps into people? Yeah, I done that too. Obviously. I've done that too, yeah.

Oh, yeah, that's shit, yeah. Well, that's obviously fake. Like, nothing we've ever posted ourselves is it. It's funny, though. It's funny because, like, people, I don't think people think that's fake. Oh, yeah. I've seen it edit. It had like 500Kal likes of us.

I'm like dog. Like, this shit is like, yeah. Crazy. Yeah, he got me at the Fit Expo doing the same thing. And everyone's like, what the fuck? Yeah. It's weird because he comes up to you. And he's like, yo, could I film this video?

Yeah. Like, yeah, fuck it. And then he did John Jones. You think John Jones is just going to let somebody bump into him and he's not going to get exactly we know he's bar fighting shit up so it's okay so never faked any shit um what have you filmed that went completely south that you were gonna film some maybe something you didn't post dude there's so much shit that we haven't posted just because me and christian got into literal brawl like a like literal fucking chaotic there's like there's shit where we

were so hurtful bro if people seen this shit they're like how are these guys like You can say, oh, Roid and raised, this and that. But it's really, we've always been, like, we've always fought. Our parents, you know, it was, we've always fought each other. It's like, like Michael and Lucifer, bro. Like, actually just, I don't know, actually literally fighting each other. Yeah, I only put in a video one time because you might, I gave him black eye. Like, I couldn't, like, not lie.

And, like, that shit was probably one of our most viral clips. I got, I connected with his ass. I was proud with that shit, bro. See, how is the fucker says he's proud. I was so happy. You felt good like, I'm through the elbow. He's so good. It was, this shit was crazy, low-key.

Like, I got his ass. But I only hit him. Yeah, I missed a little bit. So I only hit him with these two knuckles. But bro, I, like, swung up, like, got all the way through connected with his eye. And he literally screams. He's like, ah! In the video, bro, it was scary.

It was like scary. Not because that was pissed, bro. I was turned into Kratos, someone in my Spartan rage, bro. No, I still didn't even punch him after that, bro. Yeah, you did. You saw. I was slapping you with my open palms. Yeah.

Who's a better fighter? I've been in a lot of fights. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Like, me for sure. Yeah. No, no, no.

I was so good at wrestling. Like, I could have probably been like a college camp. Like, I was so good. Well, you are. Yeah. You sure they could have would have.

No. Who wins in a street fight? Me or you? Or me or both of you? Both of us. Both of us for sure. Yeah. I feel like in a street fight,

I'll never be like, come out and be like, yo, I'm winning 100% because. because you never know what the fuck it happened like I'll never be like yeah I'm gonna beat your ass bro but like I'm definitely trying

like as hard as I can but together because one of you could probably hold me yeah yeah for sure you did how much wrestling if we're like we're like a fucking them what are the loss of raptors we're pit bulls bro we're going for the ankles

you're like a T-rex right and we've Velocer raptors like we I'm shooting for the double-ed though I'm shooting for the double yeah you do you don't have to how long do you wrestle for like three years three or four years like i was a dog bro i was doing all the crazy shit it was sweet but i i don't know at that time though i was like probably like fucking one 60 70 i'm like two 10 now were you guys strong strong before you were big yeah yeah mike

like bench four or five and like fucking when i was 17 or from should holy shit yeah like natural how much did you weigh that 405 natty is crazy i was like 190 probably yeah what were your best list before you got on gear 450 450 and then i think like 5 555 squad you did a 450 bench yeah not on gear no not on gear that's that's fucking insane wait room i was 19 i think there's a i have a video of it but it's fucking ass i posted it before but it don't matter if you tell them you're natural or not nobody's gonna fucking yeah yeah i believe it i mean why would you say it's yeah who gives a fuck and then i i tore my labrum two weeks after that because we went into covid and i was in my garage working out with rusty ass shitty-ass shitty-ass weights and I tore my fucking labrum so and then okay so bench was

4-50 and then what was squat and deadlift I think it was like 550 my deadlift yeah the thing that I put on a lot was my deadlift like when I came on royds like I went I don't think I ever was like really good at it so I was terrible we never did it as a football lift like it was never yeah so like it was like power clean hand clean right right right I remember that so I don't even know deadlift really like yeah benching we always just dogs at that what about you like what was you bench best best best best best bench yeah 5005 but on gear yeah that's still good as fuck like that's still i swear you've done more bro bro i've seen you do crazy shit oh yeah bro like for sure where that's why i said the street you've got a nice vert bro yeah yeah i could jump easy

donkey you think you could jump over a car like if it was coming at you 100% at 30 30 miles per hour 100%. So have you been in a lot of fights? Like, are you confident? I'm definitely confident. Yeah, I think you're definitely better

than the average fucking human. For sure. What the fuck? Hell yeah, dude. Yeah. For sure. I'm trying to think, which one of you two is more athletic, though?

Me, for sure, yeah. More athletic? Yeah. Yeah. I claim to be the smarter one, but recently I've been the more retarded one. So like, you got to make up for it?

Yeah. No, I haven't jogged Duran in a fucking minute, dog. That's, Yeah, I'd be out of breath. Like, I ran like a four, four, five or some shit and, like, fucking. Yeah. Oh, damn. Yeah.

Fast as fuck. Yeah. Like four five and four six and shit like that. We did like an NFL combine. I benched. This is like in high school, bro. I think I ran like, actually maybe a four or six closer to that. Like five.

I ran a four or five. Yeah, you did. And I think I was trying to catch up to you. Maybe I was right in the cuff like four or five, four six. I'd be reminiscent, bro. I'd be watching my huddle highlights all the time. I bench like 225 for like 15, bro. like this is in high school like 15 almost 18 reps like this is crazy yeah so you guys you guys

had sort of a solid base before you ever got on and ever did anything dude i didn't need steroids bro because i could i mean i don't regret it right but yeah i didn't need them i mean we all need them we all can be bigger more jacked i just wanted to see it wasn't like yo i got to get bigger i got to go much bigger like it was more like i just wanted to see if what they did and then i seen everybody it's it's so interesting i bench 500 within like one one cycle of deca and fucking test went from like struggling with like on a cut with four or five for reps to like bro i'm like fucking this shit is literally air would you do it differently yeah i would never took deca my fucker my fuckers hopped into deca and test like no

romison bro my tits were milking like i could push him and i'm at like 21 years old fucking kid like I'm milking my tits are you fucking kidding me that happened for real to you yeah bro I do you I look back at the videos I'm looking at how bloated my fucking faces and shit I went to like from like I was like oh G looks maxer like I look I was 15 bro and like that then I turned fat like Deca turned you like say fat like woman like I was emotional I was strong as hell thick as fuck like I was big it's cool but like I was emotional as hell my titty's

milking um yeah so do you guys regret anything not about sarah just about anything you guys have done on youtube or in like i could have invested had it on me yeah uh i got oh shit i got a tattoo on my penis i don't know why a lot of them are tattoos i don't know you got a tattoo of your penis no a penis near my i'm my i'm my close to my penis uh what is it off it's a heart okay that's not that bad. It's like, it's not that bad. It's like, yo, check this out. You see this tattoo? You know what I'm saying? I got it. We'll show you a tattoo. Yeah. And then bro, another regret was a tattoo. It was like a horror story tattoo. Like in the basement in Detroit, I'm 16. Are we what are we talking about right now? It's the wrong date. We're talking about then recently

last three years. Yeah, he's asking like a deep questions, big regrets. I'm talking about penis tattoo. Oh, our tattoo? Yeah. No, I just mean like in like the way you guys have done it all. Yeah, I wish I did. I wish I lived in the moment more. That's what I would say. I say me, Mikey made like a good. God damn, can I speak, fucker?

We made a good, a lot of money and I could, man, I couldn't tell him that's at. I don't know where the fuck is that. I don't know where that shit at, bro. But you know what made me feel better was hearing how much Togey has lost his money. Yeah, I was like, maybe I'm not like as bad. That's why I was like, yeah, I could see myself a little bit in Togey, you know, because he's like, what, 22? That's when we started making money? Toji's like, yeah, that guy, I don't know, he's fucking, me and Mikey are like dumb.

I was like, Togey, you do your taxes yet? He's like, no. Me like, Mike, you're dumb. Like, that guy is like actually like, like dumb on steroids, bro. Like, it's fucking crazy. No, but I want to talk about what you were saying, living in the moment. Yeah, living in the moment. I mean, I feel like we just let shit slip by us.

Like, it's shit's moving fast. And sometimes I wish I'd just slowed it down and really caught my breath and just enjoyed, enjoyed it. now it's like I look back and maybe at YouTube videos or just the moments in my life where I was like damn I wish I did this I wish I did that but I wasn't necessarily thinking I was just thinking about the future like even now bro yeah like thinking about the fucking future when in reality you're going to make what today and tomorrow count you know you yeah and I'll tell you just a mindset bro and I'll tell you straight up from experience man like the more you don't live in the present the faster the shit goes yeah and then you

you look back and you go oh fuck that's what i'm scared of bro i'm telling you it's it's real so i can i couldn't give you guys better advice on that is like you need to find ways to make yourself do it yeah like just find time where like you don't do anything but like just look around and talk to your family or you talk to each other and be like oh this is yeah like recognize it and not just go the next content the next video because i did that for like 10 years bro and relationships friendships all these things fell apart because i was so hyper fixated on like more next video content grow grow and i look back and i was like damn i fucked up some good relationships i fucked up some good friendships i fucked up some business shit i missed

i missed i missed a lot of stuff that i could have seen if i just like was not so enamored by like what's next what's next what's next fuck yeah dude i really mean that man would you say like those bridges are burned like you you know like you can't there's so yeah there's certain ones you can never come back from yeah there's certain ones like that i've been able to fix business stuff you're able to kind of always come back and deal with but friendships and relationships when they're like burnt burnt it's there's no coming back from certain ones you regret you know you regret anything like you've been in for a long time like i don't regret anything um in that's the i guess i would say the only thing that i hold sort of resentment for is not so much regret but resentment of

giving too much of myself to people who didn't didn't deserve it yeah because i i would i would over just sort of give and uh because my my mindset was like optimism optimism like this this situation could be so good so i'm gonna i'm gonna go all the way in and then you know the other side because i wasn't in the moment the other side on the other side was like oh their mind wasn't optimism it was like what can i get what can i take i'm i'm the opposite i'm not the what can i take opposite i'm more of like opposite where like all if if i do this i'm just thinking about all the negative shit. So I don't even go through it. I'm like, oh, I'm not going to waste my time because it's just going to end this way. Like, I wish I had more of that. I wish I had more of that.

Yeah. Well, I wish I was a little more optimist. You know, I feel like there's a, there's definitely a balance. But I was like full, like so many people that I brought in and like, dude, people built their whole careers off me. And I'm just like. I know, I know what you're talking about. I know. Yeah, a lot of them. A lot of them. And it's like I, now I do things and I do them just because I want to do them, and I don't, I don't need to, to get more. And I, I, I just recognize people for what they are, who they are. And it's like, if I don't care and if, like, if I find myself, okay, this makes sense for me, then I'll do it. But back then it was like, I always thought that, like, you know, if you did enough good for someone, that they would do

good for you back. And I would just, you just, I would just assume that. Not that, like, if you did enough good, that they would wait to get as much as they can to be like, all right, fuck you. Yeah. Like, I didn't, I didn't see that kind of stuff coming. Yeah, because, like, you just like, yeah, it's hard. It's hard to, like, hell I don't know especially when you have athletes and shit like you don't know what the fuck they're doing bro you're like trying to give them as much opportunity as you can yeah and they're just like asking for more and you're just it's a hard situation you helped a lot of people grow their businesses man yeah a lot yeah i don't regret it again in that sense i just have a little

like resentment where i'm like i wish i was i wish i slowed down more and looked at like it for what it really was yeah you thought it was like you was the homies like helping out yeah and i thought that because I would do so much that like they wouldn't they wouldn't forget that they would they wouldn't go oh I got this now I'm out like now I'm gonna look for get more just from somewhere else or from something else does that change your view on just humanity as a fucking whole like yeah I just think it's a little my I guess my view is a little nihilistic like which is like bad like it's like really like I wish it was better but I'm just convinced people are just greedy as fuck yeah and everyone just wants the most for the least I mean yesterday bro we was

Oh, yeah. He's seen that shit yesterday, bro. Like, motherfucker. It's just, it's human nature, bro. Like, Toji gives out 100K. People still asking for more, like, motherfuck. Oh, bro, I had a guy who, you know how like the, after the coin flip? Yeah. We did the red and black. And then the team had to leave that lost, right?

I had a guy who, uh, he won. He had an X. I gave him the money because I'm just like, he's on his way. I was like, oh, I'm heading out. I'm like, yeah. I'm heading out. I was like, yeah. He's like, he was like telling me he lost.

And then two other guys came to take a photo and they had the X. because I didn't know what was marking who won or lost it. And then they were like, oh, no, we won. And I was like, yo, you got to ask you what you won. He goes, oh, yeah. And I was like, give me that money back, motherfucker. Yeah, he just wanted to take the money and keep playing. I was like, just little things.

But me, at the end of the day, I get it, right? Like, he probably has a lot less. He wants, he wants it. Yeah, well, that's, yeah. But what I'm talking about is, like, it's different when you create real, like, friendships with people. And then it's like, you think it's like, this person has my back. because I was there for them in this moment, in this moment.

Like, I mean, bro, you know about the horror stories I'm talking about. Like, one specific stands out, and it's a girl, I don't got to say the name, but it was like, Sarah Safari. No, Sarah Safari's amazing. She's the only loyal one. I know. I know that. The boys, there's a lot of other people that are loyal outside of her.

But in that time flying, there was another girl. And bro, like, I mean, I'm there for this shit because she's, like, crying about her anxiety. You know what I'm saying? like and I'm I'm like trying to console her about her life like fuck the internet fuck like anything and it's like why we have moments like that but then you do me like this it's like you can't even it's exactly because it's like there's you're in those moments where like this person's like it's very vulnerable it's very real it's about life and not just like money or business and they still it's like the next day they can go I don't even think about it

fuck you I'm you know it's like that's I understand that's so fucking scary that people will take that and just take it for granted because you didn't have to fucking do that right no you know that's honestly that's why me and mickey never really did shit with anyone because I just didn't want to put myself in that position yeah like I said I was smart

I wasn't as an optimistic where I just thought like oh these people want to use me or if I do this it's going to that way that's really what it was is I just didn't want to get put in that position and like I don't know I wanted to protect what I had so I just stick to myself it's smart though and also too you guys know you're never gonna like your fucking family you're literally like and i dude it's hard trying to build the relationships even with the

woman like because like this i base it off like my relationship with my him like he'd never do me fucking wrong no matter fucking what like nothing in this world could break that bond and for me with the my future wife or whatever it had to be something similar yeah because i want like they got to be cool at each like i'll probably live with my forever. I don't know. Maybe the house is next to each other or something, but like, yeah, we'd have to be a match with both of us. Yeah. No, I get it. No, it makes

sense, though. That's how it should be, though. You guys are brothers, man. Like, you guys have all this because of each other. Like, your differences is what make you guys great. That's like, you wouldn't have all this. I always got to give him a warning, though, like, yo, my brother, he's a little bit of a cunt. Like, I'm not going to lie to him. I get jealous, bro. I get so

jealous. I'm like, looking at this shit, taking up all my brother's time. I'm like, I'm trying to record a fucking video. And I found out I can't because you're here. I'm about to, come on. So do you, do you actually, you don't put any stuff on the internet like that really? No, no, no. Are you date?

Do you date? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I do. I don't put any. Do girls ever like fake that they work out to like try to get with you? Like, oh, I'm into the gym. I love the gym, you know?

Well, this guy's, yeah, is insane, bro. Bro, there's edits out there. Mikey, like, he don't get. Oh, bro. I assume you've seen so many low. This guy got strippers, all types, all types of crazy shit. like crazy woman like it's crazy i'd never seen anything like it i'm like this you this looks like drake's dms bro it's fucking insane but it worked out that lonely lonely lonely boy and shit

fucking worked in my favor all those edits whatever motherfucker has made me seem like email or whatever you fucking want to call it i just got out this to your relationship bro and i'm like i don't even know how to like do any of this shit like i don't even know anything i don't even know what's going it's got to be scarier now too because like there's that added layer of like money fame 100% where you're just like damn that's one thing I'll say about Carly bro is I always knew it wasn't that because she fucked me before any of that

before the trend she fucked you before any no she fucked with me dumb prick asshole before you had any of that yeah yeah because she already had a following I think right yeah yeah and I was just like one of them one of them guys sneaking in bro and like I got in there and I was like

damn and then then I ended up getting there and I'm like damn like this cool do you think your relationship with her helped you guys at all helped you guys at all like follower wise or is it because she mostly female audience yeah not for me not for me at all maybe for her i don't know he's been an influencer for years uh so probably i mean he was already famous so i don't know do you guys both want families you both want kids oh yeah i definitely would love to be a father yeah you know but i want a daughter bro i always thought like oh bro human like we're just like

mice, we just reproduce, like, there's no meaning of life. And then, you know, I grew up out of that fucking mindset and just realized that it's probably, it's probably the best thing you can do is raise. Well, Mikey's had a kid already. He's, what? Life's a baby daddy, bro. No, no. No, I'm not, bro. I don't know what the fuck he's saying, bro. Chris, you can't see that. I don't know about that. That's a clip. Bro, they don't know about Tino, bro. Come on. Yeah. What are you guys into that no one knows it just came out like recently like Pokemon like I'm huge into that show oh Pokemon's fire yeah the fuck yeah you got that's my yeah that's my childhood yeah straight up childhood it's just nostalgic bro I love I'm loki I'm loki uh uh I am taking like gunsmithing

course oh shit like online guns because I don't know I got in firearms a little while ago and I just wanted to know more how it fucking works I don't know guns are fucking cool I love A ton of grounds. Yeah, yeah, me too. And so I just took the gunsmithing course. Just because you have so much time on your hands. And sometimes you don't, though. It's just like when you're influencing or whatever you want to call him making videos,

sometimes you have time, whatever. You got his bachelor's in business. He knows multiple languages. He's hyping me up, bro. No, I just started this gunsmithing course just because I was bored. And I just, yeah, that's it. And then I have a Spanish tutor. Well, like you always be on some crazy shit, bro.

Like, he'll- No, I start shit for like two or three months. And then I want to be a tattoo artist. He's like, I want to be a firefighter. Oh, no, bro. We used to give tattoos in our fucking dorm room. We had this tattoo gun. Yeah, bro, we would give tattoos to other people, like other kids on the football team and shit.

I'd be like wiping them down, giving them the shittiest tattoos. Oh, yeah. What is, what do you think those guys? Have you ever talked to any of those guys? Let those people think about what you're doing now. Yeah, no, I talked to. Well, these guys know my deepest secrets for sure. They got video evidence.

Honestly, I don't know how we haven't grateful. I'm just grateful. I don't know how we haven't gotten cancer yet. I hope they don't see any of that. They're real boys then. That's real. Yeah. Me and Mikey, though, bro, I'm not the greatest friend, honestly.

Like, I just don't be responding. Not, like I said, I'm just lazy. Like, I just, I'm just lazy, bro. Like, I love protecting my, my peace, bro. Like, I don't, I like being alone. I love just fucking, fucking, man. Just not doing anything. I don't care.

Like, I'm not one of the people are like, oh, I'm like, I'm not doing enough right now. I'm like, dude, I will literally sit around and just chill. Like, I'll fucking play video games. I'll look at my, like, sometimes, bro, I'll spend hours just, like, rearranging my Pokemon shit. And, like, I don't feel any, I don't feel bad at all. Like, I just love, I just, yeah. I love video games.

What do you got? Oh, my God. What do you play? I play everything. Really? Yeah, dude. I've been, I've been playing rivals, but lately this is, you guys probably don't even know about this video game.

I'm some, like, old head shit. Warcraft. You don't even know about that. Bro, what? Warcraft. I know, I've never played it, but my brother's played it. Warcraft. The game I played when I was fucking 12.

Before World Warcraft came out That's crazy It's still, my fuck is still be playing that shit I could still play it, yeah I did not know that bro That's some like real old head shit That's old house Some room scape shit

Yeah yeah yeah but I play I mean I played everything World of Warcraft Halo Cod What's your favorite bro? Halo is the best Halo 2 Halo 2

Best shooter of all time My dog bro That Halo 2 is the best Best times of my life Playing that game man Best times of my life He had that shit in the foster Oh bro

I remember one of my first memories was playing Halo 2 and I beat Christian in custom games and he punched out my fucking tooth that is my first memory my first memory five years we were like four or five yeah I think oh god such a that was like the golden era

of fucking video games man bro it sucks because people never get to experience that yeah like now it's all game or battle passes pay to play everything yeah battle royals and shit it's like no you'd pick two colors you wanted to be an elite or a fucking Spartan

and you pick two colors that's it Best times. Legit best times in my life playing that game. Yeah, bro. And I would bounce from that to like World of Warcraft. I was a little bit older than you guys, but I was, I would just nonstop play these games. And I would play Unreal Tournament and shit. All these crazy computer games.

I was a massive nerd. Like just as much as I work out, I probably doubled video game hours. I would not expect that, bro. That's cool. Huge nerd. I mean, look, I was fucking shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, so you love Dragon Ball, too, then.

Yeah, huge. I grew up on that. That was the first thing that I ever saw that I was. like damn i kind of want to be jacked was a little kid yeah same i was like this is cool i want to yeah oh he said war hammer you got warhammer too yeah yeah fuck yeah that's crazy i would not expect i'm a huge nerd if if uh we'll switch a little bit if you guys had to uh you got to put the mic a little closer if you guys had to pick the top three fitness influence of all time besides yourselves yeah who do you pick i wouldn't even put myself on that list but um

shit this is probably this is really culture bro like current and past David laid no I've never even I can't I can't no I would not I've never watched a David laid

video how am I gonna put them on there I know for a fact you haven't so don't don't be fake here I'm not how is that fucking fake all right I think I mean

I would definitely say Rich Piana yeah rich Piana for sure i mean i'm not going to say you because i'm sitting right next you but you definitely like in the top five maybe top three i don't know because like you created zoo culture like that's where every influencer streamer it goes now so like it's definitely sounds like i created fitness influencing you kind of low you definitely you could say me if you want to you don't have to no i would say you i'd say you up there for sure like no glas honorable mention number four like no specific

order i'd have to probably say rich piano zetti like callie muscle bro oh g callie muscle is funny as no bro like this is what maybe it is i don't know currently like i'd you got to put sam's luck that i don't even know how the fuck you wouldn't put him on there i'd put seabom over sam to be honest well he's a bodybuilder bro it's not yeah but damn this is hard stop i would just honestly i would only put people that i've watched and like i've legit only watched and like i've legit only watched like probably you like domizetti fucking rich piano and kelly muscle that's that's who i watch in lex i actually watched lex before i met him yeah so like to me lex is definitely up there for the new for new influencers it's lex is number one for sure and that's like

one of my best friends he's cool as fuck yeah super cool guy yeah like he's like he's a good dude he's one of the realest motherfuckers yeah i would definitely put for me lex is at number If we're putting new gen, Lex is up there. Yeah, for new gen. Sam's for luck. I don't watch. I love Sam. I met him.

He's a great dude. For new gen, I'm putting you guys up there. For sure. I appreciate that. 100%. Old Jen is you, Rich Piana, and Cali Muscle. That's my, that's my, for my old gen goats. And then new gen, it's definitely, I got to say, it's either John Skywalker or David

Laid, but I feel like David Laid definitely has more. Oh, yeah, for sure. David Laid, Lex. my fuck it was just handsome and like look good bro like you can't it's hard to be and he's been around forever too yeah bro like he was there like like even not when i first started but like along the way and he was his was he like i don't really i've never watched he's one of the he's definitely one of the first i know he was like his new our old gentleman but as long as you though like he's he's like right in the middle there really well no he honestly yeah he might be the most famous

bro yeah you might he might be the most famous one for real because i'll see him post And bro, in like 30 minutes an hour, like he got 200K lights. I'm like, what the fuck? He also got that pretty boy look, you know? Yeah. He's their OG looks maxer and fucking, dude, the looks max and shit is so fucking toxic now, bro. Are you fucking kidding me, bro? Hell not.

What is it? People just focus on like aesthetic? Yeah, they're like, just facial feature mewing. Like, fucking, oh, you have so much potential. You have to start doing this. Or they're wearing eyeliner and shit. It's like, well. Highliner is crazy.

Have you ever done the mewing though? You ever? I mean, when I'm in a picture, I'm kind of like, get the fuck out, bro. No, I got to, like, accentuate the jaw line, but I'm not into no fucking looks maxing shit, bro. Yeah, you got, I'm on bald. I'm fucking bald, bro.

You might need to start, buddy. You're fucking chopped guy. Are you bald, like, on purpose or on accident? Yeah, I shade my head. But like, my hairline's fucking cooked, dude. His, yours isn't? It's not nowhere near as bad as this guy. Because he took fan.

I'm like, bro. I'm not taking finest ride I haven't taken all this other regiment shit I'm not doing this bro I know you take a pill yeah oh shit okay doesn't fuck me your sex drive no not when you're on test

it's only when you're like natural it could happen but like for tests like I'm a fucking feral animal yeah you know what it is bro every dude it's it's like the it's always like this thing people say oh you get on test

you get super horny and shit but like motherfucker it's like it's like it's exactly exhausting how horny you get. I feel like, I don't know if it's the same. No, I get it. It's exhausting.

I understand it. Yeah. You need to get a girl soon, bro. You're going to make it too much love to your hands. I'm actually ending up in strip clubs. You know. No. I can tell you're not even that kind of dude.

No, I'm not. I can tell, bro. So what do you think? What's the most important thing you guys have learned through your whole experience being on social media? Well, it's like, bro, it's honestly what you said about being optimistic and.

That's what? No, I'm saying don't like just The most important thing Seeing who people, what people Who they are for gosh damn it I don't know man I think I've become dumber I'd be could think I become I became so out of touch with reality

Me trying to say what I was trying to say And then you saying that just proves we're fucking dumb asses No I'm so out of touch with reality People shouldn't even ask me questions I don't even fucking know bro I mean there's you meet so many people it just becomes you become known bro tax is inevitable you're going to get fucking fucked over by somebody yeah you just got to look at life and understand that these things are going to happen yeah prepare from

or not the thing is bro shit you're going to get fucked somewhere or the other the government's not fucking you some girl's going to fuck you and yeah so it's real shit though yeah so basically impending doom is all around us and you should just do whatever the fuck makes you happy yeah that's what we're That's the key. Yeah. Because that's the fucked up part. Because like I said earlier, my,

my view on people is a little like bad. But if you live like that, like I try really hard not to think like that. Because I know that that just then affects me more than it affects anything. Does that affect your relationship with like, say a woman like your girlfriends or whatever? Oh, 100%. Yeah.

Yeah. Just like why is this person here is because I have money is because I have popularity. Right. Because I could like change your life. 100%. 100% is it is. And it's never. going to go away. Even when you, when you like a pursue a woman, like, if she was rich and

fucking famous, I'd want that motherfucker too. You know what I'm saying? I get it. Like, come on. I feel like dudes date. I'm not saying I do, but I just feel like notoriously guys will date like beneath their like bracket, whatever, while woman only date above. Yeah. Only date guys who are above their bracket where guy, guy, they just want a loving, caring fucking woman. You know, I think, yeah, I feel like women are taught to be like that almost. Yeah. If I have a daughter, I'd be like, yeah, you know you're worth this and that. Like, but I, you know, but gold diggers and shit, fuck you.

You're a piece of shit. I don't know. My brain is always, like, I'm always going back and forth from, like, extremes. Like, wait, grab the mic, grab the mic, sorry. I'm always going back and forth in my head of, like, extremes of, like, um, his love even real is this real like sometimes i'm bro you love me bro what i'm like it's unconditional am i even alive like sometimes like i've become like paraso in a parasocial being late no i know what he's saying though like i've become like so philosophical that it's not and i don't even know what's going

no bro you just got to be a dumb ass dumb you dumb asses always have the most fun they're always living like you know your best life it's true think too hard just take steroids just look at me lift heavy scream break a few things and you You seem to be more introspective than him. Introspective, yeah. He doesn't even know what the fuck that means, bro. It means like you think a lot more like internally about the shit that's going on. Yeah.

Maybe you worry more about it. Bro, I'm literally this guy. That's what I'm saying. I'm to that point to where now I don't even know what. Like, bro, I can't despair. You ever watch the difference? The movie, or not the movie, the show The Bear? Yeah.

The main character, I forget his name, but he's always fuck. and tweaking out or like getting pissed off at some it's literally this fucking guy bro and i gotta sit there you're talking about the guy from shameless yeah that the guy but in the bear but that's literally i think i'm bipolar i genuinely like maybe might be but then that you think the gear you think the gear maybe did it i don't know man because were you always like that i with mike yeah and i feel like it's it's it's like accentuated to other parts of my life like i've never raised my voice to anyone like i'm just like i'm i get quiet and like moody like that's that's how I am

if like it's not a bad thing now but with me you'll say whatever the fuck's on his mind yeah well yeah because you guys that's why we'll be

I'll be getting I'll be ready to scrap out that's why I think thinking too much about anything is so bad for you because like your brain is so powerful you can literally come up

with fucking anything and like that's what I'm saying though but I became so introspective like now to like sometimes I'll overthink my brain to like numbness and I can't even

I don't even know what I was thinking about like i get you bro i really do i do it a lot do you do you do anything to try to not do that like do you ever you guys ever do you ever meditate like you know this guy yeah i'll get more pissed off bro work out man that's fucking stuck on a boss his bitch yourself yeah literally bro so working out's your thing then yeah for that 100% or me i got to bro fuck no i got you homie no i'll give you that but no no it seems like you guys Obviously, you guys are brothers. You guys love each other for real.

Yeah, it's one of the things where, like, if he, like, if he, like, asked me some shit or I ask him, like, he'll keep it a buck. I'm like, bro, am I fucking cook? Like, I'm like, after all this car of shit going on, I'm like, bro. I'm like, am I cooked, bro? He's like, we're done. He's like, we're done. He's like, we're done.

He's like, stop being a pussy, dude. Stop dancing around these questions. Just stop, like, stop caring. And I just like, yeah. Yeah, it's, you're not cooked. Your audience doesn't give a fog to be on. Not that, not that you. not mean like you're you're just willfully be disrespectful to me you're not and i don't even get

that sense for you in any that's what yeah i always were super respectful no i mean i bought my house because she wanted i didn't even want this shit i mean i always i always thought i was like a good guy i don't know i did my best and uh you know what i did what i could i thought i did was right and like now i overthink it to the point i don't even fucking know so yeah no you did don't even stress it rose throwing the towel in i'm really choose it's good you can make it work i was trying to and then i did the video with toji and then boom i'm like back in the same spot as the japan video i'm like fuck man and i can't catch a break dude i will say though if if someone is making like you making content like especially with like

another guy i mean unless the other guy was like let's go fuck hookers and tijuana then it's like i understand the hesitation but if it's just making content with someone that's a little bit of uh Like, we're doing good deeds in this field. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. We're doing great deed. We're giving out a lot of money. It's a little, you know, I gave out a dildo.

That was what I gave out. Togey's giving out. He's a better guy than me, bro. He's giving out 100K. I gave out a dildo. I'm the bad guy in the situation. No, but what I'm saying is like, if someone can't understand that you're doing something that's for content,

it's, it's not like you're, you're not doing something fucked up for content. It's maybe not the one, you know? Yeah. Because that's what you do, right? Like, you can't separate. yourself from the thing that you do that gives you a lot of purpose that makes you feel like good about what you're doing for someone else you know i actually love making youtube videos it's a

passion yeah because i've seen this like like like for example like steve will do it yeah he the fact that he's like crushed that he can't make youtube videos yeah it fucking it wrecks him man and and like is it because he's banned yeah it's because he's banned so i i know because i talk to him all the time so i know firsthand it's like it really fucks with him because it's like yeah he he makes tons of money still. Money's not a problem. It's not like he needs to do it to make money. He's great.

Oh, he didn't even make money off YouTube anyways, probably. Yeah, well, he wouldn't, obviously he'd make money from other things revolving around YouTube. But, like, his ability to make money is not stopped at all. But his ability to do, like, what he's really passionate, feels good about doing is, like, a little bit hindered. Right. And so, like, that's what I'm just saying, if you, if there's people in your life

or if there's things that are, like, trying to stop you from doing that thing that's, like, actually makes you guys feel really good. That's not a good thing. right it's a little bit of a selfish action from someone else who say i want you to be this way yeah i generally if this shit ended tomorrow i would not care i mean i'd be heard about it because i can't connect with like people and like oh not because you're not motivating more money and you gotta no i would i would i would i would become like a i don't know i'd want to join the swat or something or like do some badass so you could you could give this all up if you had to i mean if i

had to i don't want to like if it was yeah of course if it was like forced upon you yeah what do you think you do you think you do like military or firefighter i'd like come a police officer trying and join swat or i'd fucking go to like ranger school or some shit trying what do you have neck tattoos fingers tattoos there's it's all the i don't think i don't think you can do that yes you can yeah they yes bro i'm i'm on reddit reading about the shit he's like preparing yeah that means i'm fucked so i don't know man what do you know you're no you're the one who could do it regardless remember yeah yeah you're right yeah well what would you do if you didn't do this I was talking with Toji, he made a great point.

He's like, how do people even make money besides this shit? Like, I don't even know. Like, I wouldn't want to do shit else. I feel terrible for people our age, man. I read something. Yeah. And it was like, if the government, the minimum wage would have to be $60 an hour for people to afford house to buy a house.

No. Bro, it is. That's fucking nuts. We were just talking about this before the podcast. I'm actually shocked that people are even able to live in L.A. dude i couldn't believe it when i lived here i was like what the fuck this shit is so expensive bro that's why it left because i wanted to buy a house and then i moved to florida Tampa it's the same shit low key bro tampa's expensive as fuck yeah so it's it's it's it's it's

it is it's pretty crazy man like how how hard it's it's become just to live like normal life yeah and it's and it's everybody's got a degree now that shit doesn't even fucking matter it's it's that's so the only thing left to do is take roids and try and become the next t-bomb bro like that's like seriously we're only fans yeah no this honestly i don't blame none of these people that's why i'm i'm not a judgmental person at all oh hell no i like people always act on their high horse like this 17 year old kid who's getting canceled logan or whatever yeah he claimed fucking natty he was on trend whatever fuck that that you're that's retarded the strongest 17 year old kid right yeah yeah well like i i can't sit there and like be like oh

i'm better than you you shouldn't have done that you're a piece of shit get off the internet now Like, I don't, but that just comes back. People are desperate. They'll do anything to get it to the point they want to. He's still a piece of shit, right? Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like, I don't know. I feel like he's not a piece.

In today's society ain't nothing surprising me, bro. I don't know. Honestly, there's way worse things. I mean, this ditty shit, bro. How the fuck he'd get out of this shit? I think because he didn't actually really do anything crazy. Wait, did he get out of it? Pretty much, yeah.

But he got released into society. No, not yet. Not yet. No, no, no. He's still in. He's still in. He hasn't, he hasn't been able to get on bail yet. But he's like, like, all the things that were, like, really bad, he didn't actually get, like, charged for. I think because it was like, I mean, he was just doing fucked up shit with his girl. Like, they were doing fucked up. I don't know. I just see the shit that's on the internet. Wait, so I'm, I don't know. I don't know much. But I thought he was doing real fucked up shit. Like, fucking eating children. Well, see, that's what they make it seem like, right? Like, he's doing weird, like, pedophile, fucked up shit.

But I don't think that was really ever a thing. I'll, I'll tell you that. the truth, what I believe. I believe when he got out of his like alcohol deal, the Surrock thing, and he started shitting on that, that company, which is owned by like a massive, this is going to get in conspiracy theory, but this is what I think is true. I love this shit. This is owned by like massive companies and he's got a massive platform and he's like, fuck them. And I think this is the, this is the sort of entail of that, then being like, we're going to get you back basically eventually. That could possibly be true. Because he did fucked up shit. Like he did physically assault that chick. It's on camera. You saw that. Yeah. Yeah.

But all the stuff that they were trying him for, like, it wasn't like he was doing actual crimes. He was just having, like, weird fucked up relationships with, like, he was having his girls fuck with, fuck man. Wasn't he fucking Will Smith or some shit? Like, fucking. I don't think so. I don't know, bro. Not my, not my, not will Smith, bro. Come on.

No, no, he was, he was like, he was basically having his girl have sex with guys he'd watch. And he like, he would like make the do this often. He's like a cuck. Yeah. But like, that's not a crime. I don't know. I don't fucking know, dude. What do you, what do you think about 9-11, though?

Oh, I think it's completely inside, dude. Oh, yeah, for sure. But see, we were just talking about that before the pod went on. And it's like, the craziest thing is if you believe that that was inside job, people will, like, think you're retarded or crazy. Well, that's only boomers. Only boomers will say, like, I talk to my dad about it. He's like, you're fucking retarded.

Like, what were you going to say? Well, I was going to say, if, if you believe that that was an inside job, which I do, it's just so, it's such a massive actual problem. that that because basically you're willfully saying that like our government would allow this to happen so that we can get involved in this other activity over here in the middle east for so it's like almost like you want to not believe it was inside job and and go back to the rainbow and sunshine fucking lie yeah but i believe i believe it was in there's no way in my mind it was an inside job yeah there's too many i'm not even the smartest person i've seen this video i've seen this chinese dude and he was like talking he's like from china talking about how like all the chinese know that the American government is ran by the Zionists and like they killed like

30 million like Chinese like during World War II and like no one ever talks about her this and that and they were talking about that it runs so deep like the amount of money that they have like it's it's like they would they make like you design is killed no like the Zionists that run the government like have so

much money and power that they make like Elon Musk and like Mark Zuckerberg look like fucking children like there's like real like some evil shit bro like what Honda ass shit. No, I get it. I get it.

I mean, bro, I can talk about this shit forever. It's just, it's, it is crazy to think that, I guess it's not even crazy at this point. It's almost just like,

like, I don't know. That's so weird. Like, I don't want to believe it because I feel weird because like, I don't know, man.

You'll keep this part, though, so people, they'll be like. Yeah, cut, leave this part, but cut that part.

But leave for sure the 9-11 stuff, because I'm convinced it. Oh, it was fucking. Because like I was telling you, it was crazy. like when we went and spent 20 years in the Middle East,

all the same people were like, that was a complete waste of time. Even the people fighting it where there's a waste of time. Even the people fighting it. Obviously all these people lost their lives in the war. And then even the whole like Republican side was like, yeah, we should never do that again.

But like we still find ourselves dealing with and spending and sending money and doing this whole thing in the Middle East where it's like, what are we really doing? Yeah. It's crazy, man. And that shit in the, man, the Gaza strip, bro.

Have you seen before after pictures? Yeah. That's fucking insane, dude. It's insane. They, like, killed all them people, bro. Like, so many people, bro. I seen a fucking video of a little kid carrying a bag of flower. And they drone struck his ass, bro.

Blonde a fucking bits. Where do you see it on, like, Twitter and shit? Yeah, Reddit, uh, Reddit, fucking, um, where else did I see it? Oh, you and Reddit shit. Instagram is low-key. I be seeing a lot of shit on Instagram. I don't know how, but, yeah. But, like, honestly, the more you go deep into it, bro, you're going to turn into, like,

that Alex's going to, dude, like, you become insane. like it just eats you alive like it's you feel help us yeah feel fucking helpless yeah i feel fucking helpless yeah i feel like right now we'd have to start a revolution like all the famous fitness influencers in the entire world we'd have to like stand up and create an army and everyone had to like revolt and we'd still lose i wonder what the military i wonder what the military would do like if they had they'd be sent again like unlike citizens bro i don't know yeah who would be torn and And he would be like, I'm not doing this. They would listen.

Military motherfuckers, they don't give a fuck, bro. All they care about those are platoon and their fucking rifle. They will kill your ass. What? I don't know. That's true. I guarantee you, bro. It is fucked, man.

We definitely got to a point where we're like, what's going on. Yeah. Oh, it's so fuck. I ask myself that all the time, bro. Yeah. I love America, but like, man, I just. I love what America stands for, not the, but what it used to stand for or not what it's is now. Yeah.

You know. I hear it. man. And you know what's crazy is these maggot motherfuckers still believe Trump is in their in their best interest. Yeah, everyone, everyone believe, I mean it's sad because it's it's just like

it's really just one thing. Yeah. It's one thing with you know, eventually a different face, a different name, a different sort of person to blame. It don't matter. It don't matter. It's a, it's a, do you want the blue pill, the blue pill, uh,

what, what did it out, buddy? Do you want the red, pill that's run by Israel. We want the blue pill that's run by Israel. Which one? Yeah. It's the same body. That's the only thing they agree on is send money to Israel and Ukraine. That's the only

thing they can fucking agree on. It's scary. Now they're talking about that. The Plantar shit. Palantir. Yeah. What is that? What? It's the AI company that basically is like a CIA sort of operation that's I've seen this meme. They're going to consolidate basically

everyone's information in like what you say, what you do and oh fuck no like AI combined with it well bro did you see in the in that bill that just passed there's the biggest thing that set out to me like you know people argue about that you know they're taking Medicaid away from these people and then they go oh that's only from illegals and then they talk about like all the other stuff in the bill the one thing that really trips me on that bill is there's a there's a there's a there's a clause about you cannot like bring to like you can't you can't sue you can't like make a change in any these companies that are doing AI stuff for 10 years. Yeah. Like, why would they protect themselves

for 10 years? That's insane. Because it just makes me think like, well, they have a, they must have a plan that within 10 years, they figured it out. Yeah. And it's like, what, what's going to happen in 10 years? That's scary. It's just sky net shit to me. I think like, turn it. Bro, I swear to, I really feel that's like, why else would they have a provision like baked into this thing that's like, yeah, there's a lot of other good stuff that's happening and, you know, some people think it's bad stuff, whatever but there is this one thing that says for 10 years you can't challenge this basically yeah it's like that fucking um no captain american winter soldier those ships where they're able to target anybody in the in the in fucking have they have all information yeah they wanted to like

run they want they give it to like these companies and they give them like no law like they're in like no they have no law like surrounding well we'll check this out at this point we could all conversate and talk about this stuff and say these things and in in people can hear it, right? Yeah. You see how AI's getting crazier and crazy where it's almost like, well, it will within the next few years be indistinguishable from like a human, right? So now imagine they own all the data, they own all the information, they have it streamlined

in this, in this, you know, whatever fucking tech base they have, the Palantir shit, whatever. And they could go push the algorithm to say this and everyone thinks this and they could create influencers that are saying this. Holy fuck. Now, it doesn't matter what we're saying. because there's 10,000 others saying that is we're just going to find ourselves in a weird

position, man. I really believe that in the next 10 years. It's going to be fucking weird. I believe it too, yeah. I'm just about to buy me a ranch out in Texas. That's what I want to do. Get the fuck away. Me and Mikey were looking or talking to Togey, he just bought a house in Texas, I don't know. Austin. Yeah.

Yeah, Steve's going to move out there for Steve's always back and forth, but dude, that's what I want to do. I want to fucking live on a ranch somewhere, man. I'm selling my around. I'm like, dude, I started looking. the amount that you can get for your money there is fucking why would I go anywhere else Like it's insane

But in Austin not Austin specifically No like a little bit outside Like 20, 30 minutes like Like New Bronsville and shit Yeah It's beautiful too Yeah Yeah anywhere near that lake

But a little bit out for sure Yeah that's where I'm looking Yeah So you guys are a little bit afraid Of the situation for sure Oh 100% yeah Oh it's not good at all I don't see any optimism

I don't think anybody is like like optimistic about what the fuck the government's doing and shit yeah really it's weird though the thing that i don't get about it is how like we all feel that way but then people still like really ride on these sides like as if like it's i think they get paid bro they definitely get paid bro like there's a bunch of like maggot people who get paid like charlie kirk like all those dudes you know charlie kirk said something that irk me once he was he was talking to a guy and he was like um a guy was like i'm palestinian and i'm christian he was like oh you know like crisis King but like what's Palestinian yeah where is it show me where it is on the map and I was like

as it's insinuating that Palestinians and Palestine doesn't exist yeah that's like there's so much it's like what are they going to try to erase all the history of a place that did exist yeah that's fucking insane they won't even put the guy they could literally say the same thing about like news I guess yeah I mean about about any group of people that yeah exactly it's it the whole thing's weird man and it's starting to just be like way too apparent and that's why when I see stuff like this, this whole 10-year thing, I'm like, that's really, really interesting. Yeah. And like, I mean, I didn't vote that for anyone because I don't, I just don't know too much.

And I'm like, there's so much shit. I just know there's so much noise. Like, I don't never knew what to believe. So I don't really have a crazy political opinion. But I just think that like, right now this shit is not fucking good, dude. Like, whoever's doing. It wasn't good before and it's not good now. It don't matter who's in control.

Bro, it's fucked. It's just lining the, the politician's pockets, bro. Yeah. Like this alligator, Alcatraz shit, what the flying fuck? That, they're like, oh, it's cost effective. It costs fucking, fucking 500 million or some shit, almost billion dollars to make. How is that cost fucking effective? Dude.

But the crazy part is, you remember when Doge first came out? Do you guys remember seeing that? Yeah. And they're like saying how there's all this fraud. Yeah. Like, countless amount of fraud. And then it's like, but nothing's happening. Like, nothing.

Right. Like, okay, what's going to happen with that? The same with like the Trump coin. Like he had insider trading basically. He fucking announced that shit like, hey, like shit's dropping like go invest in that. Like that's just insider trading. I know so many motherfuckers invest in that and lost the shit a lot of money.

They got it. Like the biggest influence of all time right there. Yeah. Trump's fuck. Literally. Yeah. It is crazy though to see that. And just, but even when like I said,

even when, you know, that that side says there's all this. and then nothing comes of it. It makes you go like, well, wait, what about that, though? Like, clearly something's been going on. And it's like there, he was talking about how like there's massive amounts of money sent to places they can't even, they can't even track. Yeah. It's like they just, it's like they showed their hand and we're like, we, it's almost

reminds me of COVID where it was just like, remember all this stuff later on came out of COVID and it's like, oh, it wasn't that bad. In some cases, obviously for a lot of people it was. But in some cases, it was, it was like this could also help. Ivermectin could have been great. and all these other things were actually really working, but they tried to tell you, it wasn't, and this is bad, and it's a horse thing.

Exactly. And it's like, how are all those things happening and you can't see, like, it's not just a red or a blue thing. It's just the government. Like, I don't care who's in office. I've always felt that way where it's like, it's going to be the same.

Yeah. No one gets in trouble. No one pays the consequences. You just like, I don't fucking know. Yeah, we do. We just pay the, we just pay the taxes. That's it, all of us. So it just feels weird, man.

It's super weird right now. I'm not going to lie it's a little scary I think that's the one thing that as much as I want a family so bad that's the one thing that is also maybe like wait a sec 100% I don't want to bring anybody which is sad as fuck it is dog sad as fuck I've seen so many people who talk to so many people they're like I want to have kids but now I don't and it's like back then like you would have they were having kids when they were like 21 and shit and stuff like that and like we should just succeed to China bro succeed to China like like just I know it seems like it's some it's sunshine and rainbows over there but I do those kids go to school all fucking day bro like I seen in some shit they go to it's basically prison their school is fucking prison bro yes never mind bro we're not going to China I need to stay I got to stay in the gym actually maybe yeah I need to go to school actually you go back to school maybe I do need to move there would you ever go back to school nah there's no point man I just a flex like yeah I went to college for three years bro and I was

about to graduate yeah me too you did yeah same exact time frame three years what was your degree business business yeah yeah i was a biology major so i was really in that shit like trying hard as fuck not saying business isn't not saying business isn't hard no no no it was it was easy it wasn't i remember being in class and being like well i'm not even really learning anything it's all common sense shit i did mine was supply chain and data analytics so like i had a shit load of business classes because they supply chain whatever and i was like the shit I'm paying for dog shit. And then I said,

like I had to take women's literature. Like, why the fuck am I learning about women's literature? And then I had to take religion class and shit and just like, gosh, damn. Each class is like $3,000 fucking dollars. Yeah. And you have to take it. That's when I dropped out because I couldn't keep paying for it.

Yeah. I just focus on the gym, focus on training. I had a scholarship, so. Yeah, I did a scholarship and then it ended because it couldn't go to my fourth year. So I was like, I'm not paying this.

Yeah. Yeah, it was, it's un-fucking bearable. Are you guys into any other conspiracies? What about the aliens? I don't know much. I think they're real. I don't know. Dude, I see shit on the internet and I don't check back-check it because I'm too lazy.

But I've seen some shit. No, seriously, I've seen some shit. It was like the Voyager ran into a heat shield wall in space. Like, it wouldn't go any further. It was just, like, it just got incinerated. What's the Voyager? Like, or, I don't know. of it was a voyager i don't remember it was just some spacecraft it wouldn't it could it was like

the end of so so called like there's like just a heat shield around the space i don't fucking know it was the end it's like about like the permanent or whatever so you're so flat earth i don't believe but but the bible like the bible talks about giants and shit like that's yeah and the bible talks about flat earth too yeah for sure i don't know i believe and how there's a ocean in the sky or some shit like i don't know i've been that's what i'm saying bro the more you ask me these questions the more i really is realized i don't know what to think anymore because they all this shit i just know how to get a pump bro yeah yeah yeah that's not simple i know how to track my macros are you religious i i am i've had i've had a i've had a hard time with that over

the years um but i definitely do believe in god no when i learned what the bible meant bro like instructions before leaving earth i was like dan that's so tough when i was a little kid like that shit's sweet bro like i got to believe in this shit bro it's basic instructions before leaving earth yeah yeah so you guys believe in afterlife what do you think energy energy can't be destroyed dude yeah i believe that like even bro if you watch i recently watch that's a fact by yeah yeah yeah i recently watched albert einstein's last his last like before he died the last uh speech or whatever you want to call it was talking about life after death and he he believed in life after death.

No, you know what? I might have you to cut this out, but genuinely, I think that religion is the biggest cop-out coping mechanism ever fucking created. Religion. Yeah.

Religion. I think there is... I agree with that. I think organized religion. Yeah, I think there is definitely like some crazy-ass shit that is like we wouldn't be able to comprehend.

Like there is a God possibly. But like when you talk about religion, how the fuck is God all powerful but all good? it doesn't exist bro it's impossible he's let little kids fucking die

he's letting all this crazy shit happen but he knows everything he knows everything that's going to happen but at the same time you have the you have free will to choose to be religious or not well that's why he loved how does he know everything that's going to happen but you also have free will

how is he good and all powerful it doesn't align and it's fucking hypocritical as fuck and like people fucking it pisses me off they use religion to get power and people use religion for fake forgiveness that does happen to cop out of every single thing

they've ever done wrong. But I see what you're saying. I see what you're both saying. I think that's just humans. Yeah. Humans are doing that. Like, I don't think that means that God necessarily didn't, doesn't exist or isn't real or whatever. I think it's just how humans have taken this all. Exactly. I'm not. I can't sit here and say something doesn't exist.

No, I believe in God, whatever, this and that. I'm not questioned that. But, like, dude, the shit that just happened, 29 little girls dying from a flood, bro. Like, how? was God letting that happen. How is he all good?

And he's supposed to love children the most, bro. And I'm, I don't know. Wait, first of all, the craziest thing is, is like, heaven.

And fucking 400, 200,000 kids killed in, in Gaza, bro. Yeah, it's, it's, it's not, man.

It's not. But those are human. That's human. I know. I know. But like, if I'm God, I got to step in.

He's all good, bro. At least say, at least, at least, you know, like 29 little girls, bro, can't,

like, I think it's like girls, hormone. No, let me, let me cook for a second. It takes time. Okay. I think humans can act right now and do things that are fucked up right now, but just like growth,

it takes time to actually see the gains from it. Yeah. I think he's like that. Like, it's like certain humans over time are going to have to implement whatever that sort of good is because he, I don't think he, because we have the free will,

I don't think he necessarily can just implement it. I think that's like how he created this is that we have to implement it. It's just like we have so many, other, you know, demonic fucking fucked up other side that's also implementing it's bad. Because if you believe in God, like I do, and like I believe you guys do, then you also have to believe in like the other side. Absolutely. So the other side, I think is fighting the other battle.

And it's just like, sometimes it looks like to us, it's winning. But I think if more people continue to like try to fight and speak up and talk and do what they can or action, then eventually the good will be, will still be good. Absolutely. I think that's what it comes down to. And it's, if God didn't give us free will, then it'd just be slavery at that point. Yeah.

So it wouldn't be real. But then at the same time, though, like, if hell is eternity, right, heaven is attorney as well. Like, I don't. Well, I just, what about people born in the Middle East, they have to believe? And what do you mean? Like, if you're born in your Middle East, like, how are you going to ever be taught Christianity? Like, you know, you're just born. Exactly, they're fucked.

Like, how does God despair against that when? Well, we don't know. We don't know. We only, we don't know, bro. We'll know it. If you don't believe. in Christ you're not going to fucking heaven that's what it says so how is he

supposed to just like all these people a baby dies right before they form consciences they go automatically to heaven what do you talk about it says in the Bible you're stupid well I think it comes down to like the things we're talking about it comes down to like humans and there are different interpretations of God right of what that is so like we talk

about the Middle East like Islamic sort of beliefs or religions like they're still believing in God not the same way that, you know, Christianity writes God or Catholicism writes God or believes in God. Again, all those things like organized religions are now from humans and then your perspective and what you put into it and what, you know, what you've been told or what you read. So you, like, I see what you're saying. So what you're saying is you just believe that there is God and there's also a hell.

Yeah, I believe if there, I believe, I believe, you can't believe if there's God, you have to believe that there's, there's, there's the devil in his sense, right? Yeah. And I think that these religions are all created because there's probably, you know, signs and things, obviously there were signs and things that happened all throughout time where people go, oh, I have to believe this happened. This is a thing. This is real. And then over time, over history, like these are interpretations, like I said, the game of telephone, they change it up. It's written a certain way. People use it for different reasons. Yeah. There's

tons of people who use it just to fucking make some money. I mean, bro, the mega churches and shit, all this like stuff. I mean, the Roman, the Roman Empire, they converted to like Catholicism and whatever and they literally used that shit as a power grab like they used it to get more wealthy and stuff so i believe you know it just off rips there you fucking cook like it the catholic it was literally a military yeah at that point and forcing people yeah to be a part of their their fucking empire and then speak our language and all this i mean the shit that's what's what happened in america yeah they came over here and took it and said this is ours what you know all these native americans everyone who live here before this isn't right you have to believe what we believe

speak what we speak or we're gonna kill you they believed in a good they believed in evil but yeah it's a base thing like it i wonder if you took found to exist if you took all the humanity restarted it would we believe in the same gods you know what i'm saying the science would be the same like right now yeah science would math still would be there but like i wonder if the religions would be the same if you could if you could cut out like religion in the thought of everyone's brain with the way science is right now would be shit would humans be would inherently pieces of shit if like there was no religion no i think they already are man yeah you're right i think they already are yeah you're right bro i think i think religions like sometimes like we were

talking like he was saying it's kind of like a mass for people to like oh i did this fucking thing but i prayed and i'm good now like it's hitler before he's he dies he's just i believe in you jesus yeah save me take me to heaven yeah it's it's it's definitely a lot i don't i don't I don't know if you ever really, I think when you go, maybe you'll kind of know, you know, when you pass.

But those stories, bro, of people fucking dying and coming back to life. And they're like, yo, I was going, I was in hell.

I was going to hell. I've never heard of anything like that. Look up on YouTube. What? You never heard stories like that? No, I don't believe that. Or like people seeing Jesus.

Your brain is still active when you're dead. For a certain amount of time. Yeah, but it releases the strongest drug. And, yeah, is it a dream or is it real? I don't fucking.

No, this shit's crazy. You're like dreaming shit. Like, mate, that's probably what it is. Like, have you guys ever taken DMT? No, but I know. I have. You have? Yeah, I've taken ayahuasca.

Is it fucking insane? Yeah. Yeah, I've done it three times. No, you don't, I didn't, I didn't really get much like, uh, I guess for a little bit, a little bit of closed eyes like this visual scene sort of shapes, I'm more so. But I did get a, I did get a really strong. It's the fact that you're reusing them is so crazy. No, they're one of these ones.

new ones yeah i'll take one yeah was it winter green yeah california's got this stupid ass moot shit this isn't garbage you're you you're you're reused ins bro there's your gum you fucking sick bastard i don't know where that mouth is been i i did have i did have an experience where i was it made me because before this i always stressed about just like mortality just like dying like well like i had this idea that gone it's just gone and uh after after taking it um probably the second time, I just remember feeling like it's all a cycle, like genuinely. Like, meaning I had this like really sense of calm with not that I wanted to die, but the idea of death and that it was completely like almost as if it was existing in the same time that this is

happening. It's just not apparent to us. Like death as in itself is all around us. Yeah. Like not just like just chilling in the room, but like the cycle of that like that it's, yeah, I guess that's a good way to describe it. It's happening within the same time. And like, For some reason, I just had a moment where I was in it and I was like, I felt so okay with both things. Yeah. Like that if, not that if I was not, not that I'm like saying I wanted to die. That was not at all I was trying to say. But I felt okay that like it was all existing.

It wasn't, it wasn't to me. But prior it was like nothing and you have no recollection. And that was scary. That's scary as fuck. You're just in the dirt, bro. Like, yeah, like no exist, no thought, no anything, no experience, no feeling, no nothing. obviously we're not going to leave our bodies and i don't think we're going to fly around like ghost i think we're kind of be in that sort of energy yeah um that continues on i believe in ghosts

and shit bro you do yeah i think that's a different i think bro i really think like there's this it's crazy it's crazy yeah but i don't even think it's that crazy man no i was no i was i think it's insane to say that nothing exists and nothing it can't like it's insane to say that God isn't real or he is real. Like insane to count out anything because really we just don't know. So I don't think, I think to say any conspiracy theorists are insane the same way. Like you just don't know. Like it could be real.

We don't know. Like to say anybody because of their opinion is like fucking that, and call them insane is retarded because you don't know either still. I feel like you should never feel insane for saying something that is like we just don't know. Yeah. We're all theorizing like everyone does. Yeah, that's it. But you were haunted, you said?

Yeah. What? Dude, I swear to God, it was the day I moved, Christian moved out of, we had bedbunks. I've been to, with, slept with them, whatever, same room since we were fucking kids, foster care, everything. And then the one day, my older brother moved out of his room. And Christian got his own room, like the first night, bro. Like, I felt something in the fucking room. And ever since then, like, for like five years, like, shit would happen.

me like I seen fucking ghost straight up bro like I one time I got yanked off my bed or sleep paralysis my closet was open fucking everything's moving around and the same thing happened my floor my closet everything's on the fucking floor when I woke up this shit happened in my room my mom had dolls downstairs they would sting to me and shit bro yeah it's fucking crazy weird what the fuck and then one time I ran in his room and I left the door open and there was a crack and the street light was coming through because I heard something walking up the steps then all of a sudden all right we're chilling the bed you're just hearing getting closer you remember this Chris yeah and this fucking tall shadowy figure steps in and blocks the light like you could

literally see a fucking head I'm getting shivers they're like goosebumps just fucking thinking about it like you could see a fucking figure standing tall ass figure standing in front of the light and I screamed me both screamed and my dad fucking came in the room and nothing was there what the fuck yeah dude but then i just was like yo like i'm stopped being a pussy and they just left me alone i think me yeah who knows well you guys weren't foster care for how long i think we got taken more like four or five oh five and so when you say your mom or your dad you mean yeah our parents who adopted us yeah yeah wow yeah you got lucky's fuck oh yeah do you know your real parents now i never met my dad but my mom yeah my biological mom yeah do you have a good relationship

with her it's as good as it's gonna get yeah damn like my parents are the people who raised me you know those 100% yeah loving to death so what did that do you think that affected you guys like when you realize obviously you happen when you're kids like babies i'm sure there's some shit maybe i don't know like some like just the i yeah some trauma like related to the fact to not like as you got older and you recognize my my obviously parents are the ones who raised you but yeah the original parents couldn't take care of you or they didn't want to what was do you know the story yeah i mean apparently it was so bad my my dad's like you don't want to read it like the case file but i remember some of it but i never like held you like my mom and my dad i don't know

do you know what happened yeah it's like when the lottery bro you not get a question yeah like you get a thousand three bucks like you're not going to be like where did this come from like i got i got adopted and i'm like i just forgot about everything else uh what happened though the foster care and shit though that shit was weird as fuck bro the shit that'd be going up in there oh yeah it was just a weird

man bro i think we were like six so i remember like a good at five and six seven and uh yeah bro it's just weird you had like foster brothers and sisters and i wonder if they were like now like we ate hamburger helper if they remember us like the boss yeah it'd be crazy friends win holy shit yeah yeah we eat hamburger helper every night dude we watch there's like two movies transformers or like spider man that that's all we watch and be bro and shit oh yeah yeah yeah

bambi too disney movie yeah they were pretty they were good people but but you guys know what happened like what happened why yeah my mom was alcoholic so yeah damn yeah and she's a good looking lady she was she's manipulating these dudes. All right, we don't have to go on all that. Probably some sort of like manipulation. We're cucker babies. Oh, fuck, dog.

Don't say that. Yeah, we just found out we're cuck babies, bro. What the fuck? Yeah, but this is so, it's so interesting. The cucker is the father, right? The cuck. I don't know if we should. Wait, no, no.

No, we're not cuck babies. Hold up. We're cucker babies. Cucker babies. Because the cuck is the one that's watching. The cucker is the one. that's doing the fucking so you're the cuck er babies yeah yeah wow the dude who was doing the doing so i guess we're the better the better version yeah you guys are the more alpha one for sure

yeah we're the more alpha for sure yeah so so some that's fucking crazy yeah my dad told me he didn't want to tell me that because he knew that i'd go on a podcast to say that fuck that's the funny as shit ever so i don't cut it out it's funny as fuck dude what the fuck my grandpa's gonna call me he's like why would you say that fucking damn But, yo, you guys like define all the odds, though. Yeah. The fact of your fucking twins. And I think she's on birth control, too.

I think my mom was on birth control. It's meant to be here. We beat the odds, bro. All the odds. We got one percent, bro. Not less than one percent. I'm fucking dead. Yeah, you know, literally less than one percent.

Birth control, fucking twins, both jacked. Successful. I'm proud of you guys, for real. Thanks, man. That's fucking, I don't, I don't, I don't, there's a lot of stories like that. No, yeah. You guys so lucky, bro. You guys might be fucking two of one, basically.

Like, legit, one-on-one, man. That's, that's a... Sometimes I wish we were just one person, bro. Imagine, bro. We'd be like Bradley's... Yeah. Taller, bigger. Bradley's height, you know.

Strong as... It might be the second Bradley Martin, bro. But it wouldn't be... It wouldn't be what it is. You guys together is what makes it special. This is... It's awesome having a twin, bro. But let me tell you, bro, if I was six foot,

I would take over the fucking world, bro. That's how I feel like if I had hair. why don't you just go to turkey you just I don't know I just feel like they always they do a good job and it's never really that good like you know I've seen some videos where it's false the only bad is when it looks like fake you gotta get like more like

seebo shit look fucking amazing yeah that's true like you gotta get it more like of a natural I could still do it because I still have all the hair back here so if you get like a straight line I'm just waiting to get it I'd like being bald

I feel like Randy Orton or some shit yeah that they came out Me, my shit's not that bad. It's not even bad at all. It's not even bad at all, yo. It's not that bad. It looks good.

Bro, boy, you were tripping. You don't even need to be fucking ashamed. It's kind of like a, but it's kind of like a, I don't know, like it's thin, though, you know? Yeah, yeah. So. You're 35, though. I'm 24. So it's like more embarrassing for me, but I mean, I.

Well, but I was balding when I was 23. Naturally, right? Naturally. Exactly. So, I mean, so was I. Yeah. If I was balding, I would have fucking blasted starrwards. I would have, fuck, yeah.

That's why I'm hopping on a Dedy's Like balding, like right now Like you're balding off steroids It's either you had two options You hop on do Tastrad monocidal like me Or you fucking Do it like I'm doing A ton of fucking steroids bro

And that's what I take minimal steroids Because I don't want to lose my hair I don't end up like him But like I don't look that bad bald No your hair looks good bald Yeah You have like you don't have a weird shape head That's like the hardest thing

If you have that as fuck You look like Randy Orrin bro Like fun size Randy Orrin like if you were called on size ready fuck you man you guys like wrestling yeah yeah that's sick

wwee like growing up with that shit they were the fucking oh g like bro that shit was so badass when you were kids bro especially when you like think that shit's real bro yeah I remember I was playing all the video games too but I went to one recently

and obviously I know it's fake but bro I had such a good time I went to the restomania out here in Vegas it was insane man it was actually really fun yeah the audience is insane I didn't realize how much people love that stuff I think a good portion of it is definitely real

Like you're there's definitely shit like fuck Steve Stone Cold fucking broke his neck and shit No they're definitely getting hurt for real Like people oh did you watch a documentary Which one? About the The owner or whatever

McMahon yeah yeah that shit was fucking insane They were talking about all the steroids They were doing and stuff like that They were dude But that's when it was the most entertaining I'm not even alive It was crazy back then they would just go crazy.

Do you think steroids are that bad, though? Do you think steroids are generally that bad as people make them out to be? No. Not at all. That's a really good question. I think, no, not at all. I think people... That just gave me the AOK to fuck.

No, no, no. So the thing is, like, people, uh, people just overdo everything. Yeah. That's bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Overdoing anything's bad. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's where the bad part of it comes from.

And, uh, also just not knowing how to do it. I think the bad part is if you get into it, it and you're not aware of like your blood work and you don't know what you actually need to do or shouldn't do that's when it becomes a problem yeah and most people i think they hear about it and they they don't think or they don't try to understand anything about like the actual side effects and what it's going to affect they only know about like the positives they don't i feel like she bum he won the fucking mr olympia six times with the autoimmune disease and he looks fucking normal healthy his age the only bad thing was his hair line but like other than that bro he fucking like he did it right he didn't

never took a lot like he's healthy yeah daughter like there's definitely but that's the thing is you need someone to tell you what to do and a lot of people don't have that I definitely don't have that I didn't have that for like when I started and it fucked me up but then I got it and like I feel like bro I got good skin like I don't know I feel like I got good amount of hair left I feel I feel like I did it bro who gives a fuck about the hair man I'm just saying like there is definitely a discrepancy of like you know doing too much and fucking almost dying and shit. It's just having proper guidance.

Yeah. I know. One thing, though, is a test. People think trend ages you? No, it's the test. The test is what fucking age is in. Like, high test. Like, not TOT tests.

Like, high, like, 600, 700,000 milligrams. That shit. Have you noticed it aged you? When I was on the 700 milligrams? Yeah, bro. Because I've never taken over, like. Because on prep, I was, dude, bro, my prep cycle was so tiny. Kind of pissed.

I'm pissed. I wish I ran more. I only did 200 tests, 200 trend. and like anavar no no what i did the 400 okay yeah i know what you did 400 test 200 trend 300 master on um like 25 milligrams of windstrol every day like i didn't want to take the mast or any anything that would fuck on my hairs like i just did trend bro and like t rt but now like it's like bro you run some prima bowling what you're healthy bro it's a healthy it's a healthy or steroid right some prima bowling it's a test based and you you run the shit out of

out of that like for a few years and come off like you probably yeah have minimal damage the biggest key is just blood work yeah is like knowing what the fuck is going on yeah all throughout the thing that's the that's the most important takeaway i think people are watching this if they ever feel inclined to do it like you shouldn't do it if you don't know what's going on with your body throughout yeah because if you can do that then you can mitigate you know the risk what about like for me like example like everything is perfect except for my ldel and hdl like how the fuck do i fix that that that's sometimes just normal some people will just normally, whether if you ever took gear or not, didn't, didn't have that right.

But certain things you can do to, like, make that better. Like, you can focus on, like, the omega-3s, the fish oils. There's certain something that you could take to aid that. And then there's also, like, your eating habits that will kind of fix that. Like, I eat just beef, bro. And also cardio. Like, you do a lot of cardio. I just started doing it before, like, recently.

We're about to start prep, actually, when we get back, so. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah. That's going to be good content. Yeah. Really good content. I know, bro. I really mean that because I've struggled with that, too.

Yeah. All my other Mark, is perfect but that was always the one that was a little fucked up as long as your ratio is pretty good like your percent of like LDL to HDO um that's a little bit more important but sometimes it could still be out of whack it's just like I noticed for me when I when I started just doing more cardio even just like steady state basic stuff like on the stairs nothing crazy intense it started to fix that yeah yeah and lower body fat percentage too like people don't realize how much healthier you are when you're not like fucking yeah being fat is like like

worst thing for you like eating like a pig bro like when i eating fucking crumbull on crumble like that's more fucking dangerous than the steroids bro like yeah we're running the steroids in doing that bro and then imagine adding in like fucking broids but some people just have insane fucking genetics like we priest ate like fucking shit yeah and he'd still get shredded and he'd be jacked like his well that's the one thing in all of this that is like just completely you can't genetic yeah you can't listen to anybody bro you just got to that's why i say say it's the blood work yeah because you then know where you're at and what you need to do that's why the blood work so important because anyone can tell you anything but like like you said

genetically like it's going to affect everyone completely uniquely yeah yeah so long you get acne and shit you could not lose your hair like eric janeke has a full fucking head of hair yeah he's fucking huge he's deathly blasting his fucking ass off yeah so he does it smart his blood work all the time yeah but so when are you guys going to start filming stuff for the prep uh probably i probably won't really announce it for real because i'm like started right right and then well i just want to get bigger because i've been off for like a month and a month and a half and like dude i was thinking i was like why the i just went through this growing phase now i'm coming off well i've been off i lost 20 pounds and i'm just like what's the point i should

have just started a prep and then took a like a fucking six months off gear instead of taking like two months off yeah i'm back i feel like i feel like i feel so good off steroids like i don't want to hop back on yeah i feel so good right now you're just trying to some test man and like you're just running a little bit. It's like, I feel so healthy, bro. And I'm like,

I relate. I haven't been on shit for like four years like that. And even on testosterone on TRT. Yeah. Bro, it was crazy though. Like TRT,

even though it's just TRT, like having that steady release of, because when you're natural, right, your test is always changing in shit. Like you can feel like shit in different times. But like when you have TRT, it's the same all the time.

You feel amazing. Yeah. But the thing that also helped me a lot too, is like microdose. seen it that's what i do because that it's super consistent bro reddish fruit side oh my god fucking amazing isn't that that's the fat loss on but it helps with so much it helps your blood pressure your liver enzymes fucking uh uh helps your uh helps you take it small amounts not large amounts dude i i wasn't eating because i was just not fucking hungry bro like i when i eat i get sick

because i was taking too much so i was going like low-key hypo i was getting like fucking headaches and shit and sweating i was like dude why am i getting this And then I looked it up, and it actually, like, lowers your blood sugar. It keeps it. It never changes. Like, it keeps it steady. Yeah. So, like, I wasn't eating.

So I was just going hypo. So any carbs you eat, like, you could, like, I've been having, like, a few cheat meals. Dude, oh, my gosh, you run some L carnitine. It doesn't change. You're like, you're like, hang on. And then retchurchase your tide. You don't feel like the spike of, like, the, you only get the benefits, bro. You don't feel like that shitty, like, tiredness or, like, fucking headache from.

the blood sugar spike you know what amounts are you taking like i take it i don't even know to be honest but only pin it once a week which is you're supposed to do like micro but i hate pinning so i just do it once a week and like the first like three days or the first day two to afterwards i probably take 30 milligrams or not 30 milligrams like i pinn milligrams yeah week and uh after after you pin the big dough you can't eat bro like the indigestion is insane but after that you just yeah those are like the main side effects like indifference like indifes indigestion and shit you just feel sick bro but like at the same time if you're cutting it doesn't really matter so you guys recommend that yeah because i was a badass bro so fat and like i couldn't

stop eating because i took mk once fucked up my growling response and like after i took that no you're just a fat ass yeah i also like grew up with italian family like we always eating bro love bread love bread and shit love pasta me too yeah some salami but like now it's like i don't even care about food which is like crazy like I would I recommend it 100% not because I'm sponsored or anything but like it's probably the best drug I've ever taken really in comparison it's a peptide it works the best out of anything like it works as good as people say I tried it for like a couple weeks just to see how I would feel um I just like you said I just felt like not hungry though yeah and I kind of just made me worry because before I had a really

hard time gaining weight because I was just not hungry ever. You don't need it, for real. What's that? You don't need it, though. Yeah, yeah. It's only if you're like... But, dude, it helps your blood pressure.

I don't know if it's just me specifically. I don't know. But, like, my blood pressure, and I guess I came off gear, too, that as well, but... It might have been that, though, too. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. We'll see in the upcoming weeks, but...

Yeah. I'm excited to see what you guys do, though, for sure. Yeah. I'm just... Next five weeks, I'm just trying to get big as fuck as much as I can. You guys are going to do another show? yeah i need to give i'm

to be honest i don't i don't really like doing shows like i just did one so maybe my experience might be different but you just i feel like the more you do the more confident you get yeah like i just standing up there and shit it just it wasn't that cool of me because like i when like you

like you had a sports background and shit yeah i feel like you already want you already know if you want or lost before you even get on the stage for sure yeah so it's like i feel like getting on stage it's not as competitive as like as I want it to be I see it's not like you like you looking for that football

bro and you're trying to crack that motherfucker yeah it's not point based like well it is but it's not it's more subjective point base which kind of feels that's how I got out of it that and the whole political shit of it yeah but you guys would do good in it because like they want you to be there you know but that it makes it weird yeah right

right I don't want to the last one I did I didn't even say where I was going I just showed up type of thing yeah and then they realized you look like shit oh fuck i'm just kidding i did because fucking they hided me under bro i had to lose five pounds in one day the day before i didn't get the carb up bro i think i was flat as fuck on stage just so ass it's a learning experience plus i was already behind like on my prep i was behind so much and i was just ready

to get it over with like i looked good but i definitely could have looked way bigger if i kept the growth in like i was taking two i used i took it out and i just i lost like the fullness you know yeah you know that's i had that's the shittiest feeling when you're on stage yeah like i just wasn't fucking flat you and then days later you're like i look way better yeah i look to yeah if i showed up like a week it was like a week out a half hour if i showed up like that holy fuck it would have been way different yeah it's crazy your body's response to just water sodium yeah carbs it's just fucking insane how you have to manipulate that and shit you guys ever have a hard time drinking enough water yeah that's the biggest thing for me and my 100% and what i

started drinking a shit more ton more water my hunger went down so you don't realize how fucking like when you don't have anything in your stomach you just want to fill with fucking food but you drink water like you're just like less hungry I guess yeah and you get way better pumps too yeah way absolutely mentally also feel way clear like your cock like your cock looks bigger for sure when it's fuller yeah because it's just hanging down when you're taking a piss yeah and like you're like whoa bro my cock you think that's from the water yeah yeah yeah yeah beautiful you got a lot more plump it when you're soft

I mean I don't know about you guys I don't I don't like showing my soft cock to women Nah yeah I feel you on that I don't think anyone really like to do that No but like until we're like dating or something Until we're locked in yeah yeah like

You're in the shower and you're not that's relatable Yeah You're in the shower you turn around Yeah What the fuck I'm so real I'll shower after you really Unless we fucking in that bit

Save water you're just just saying you're a grower now, shower. Oh, 100%. I think everybody's a fucking grower. Maybe I'm wrong. No, everyone kind of is. To a degree, obviously. You know, you guys are

fucking funny, bro. Well, then, I appreciate you guys coming for real. Yeah. It's been long overdue. Yeah. Thanks for having us. Absolutely, you guys are fucking amazing. This is the best podcast I've been on.

Really? Yeah. Oh, hell, yeah. I've only been on three. No, three. Oh, three. It was Alex Maton and now you. No, wait, no.

Kyle and Anthony So this is Yeah We haven't been on there Don't fuck Coach Kyle Oh yeah we have All right besides a point

All right Yeah I'll see you know Podcast Thank you man Now you guys You guys are fucking awesome for real Yeah Hopefully we do more shit in the future

And if you guys ever need anything For me I'm always always available Same bro Sure Thank you sure Is there Are there anything

Any like sort of last things You want to say Or anything you want to ask me Um There was earlier I forgot bro I just want to say Don't take steroids

Yeah But do if you If you want to Fuck it I mean I'm not your parent So You're probably gonna take him anyways I always have a hard time

Saying not to Because I know I did Yeah exactly Yeah And I would just do it the right way Get your fucking blood work done Yeah That's the key

Yeah Take his advice Don't take ours Whatever he said Don't listen us All right Yeah you definitely You guys are the biggest enablers

is this so far yeah no but for real you guys are awesome thank you like actually cool as fucking person for people who watch you or whatever like if they obviously they don't they never had the opportunity they didn't you guys are like exactly the same oh yeah that's the biggest compliment bro to be honest for real because if i watch it i've seen a lot of your guys's content it's it's exactly what i thought i was going to get so i appreciate that genuineness that's huge and i think that's and i know for a fact not even think i know that's why you guys have success in the industry oh thanks for sure so i'm proud of you guys for real you guys are fucking crushing it. I'm so happy to be on this project.

I have this opportunity. Awesome. All right. We're done. Yo, every Tuesday, I love you guys. I'll see you guys next time. Come back, 11 subscribe. They're going to get doing a prep soon, so check them out. Obviously, you know who they are. Yeah. You said at the beginning to try and twins. You guys are amazing. You need some motivation

to take steroids. I mean, to- Oh, hey, bro. Shut up. We're done. To get Jack, to lift heavy, check them out. Yeah. Yeah.