RAWTALK - Vegas Matt Won $1,000,000 In One Day

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

On This Episode Of RawTalk, Bradley Martyn Sits Down With Vegas Matt And Talks About Going Viral From A Royal Flush, Winning $1.45 Million, Getting Banned From Casinos, Matt's $100,000 Six Pack Challenge With His Son, Their “Year Of Fun” Mindset Why Authenticity Is The Key To Success, His Craziest Vegas Stories & Much More!Sponsor RAWTALK: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/rawtalkSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK?sub_confirmation=1LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rawtalk/id1294154339FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY:INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzSBNBOK599FqzrTZS8ScQ/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWTQG2aMDYKGDqYEGqJb1FA/?sub_confirmation=1SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartynonline?sub_confirmation=1RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

You're obviously an older gentleman. I'm older as well. We're off to a rocky start already. The funniest thing about him is, and he's been saying this since I was a little kid, so when I die, I want to be stuffed. Because I don't want to be burned or stuck in a box in the dirt. I think, you know, prop me up in the corner just like, there's grandpa. I got a credit card banging it for a $10,000 cash advance, wake up at the morning,

like looking around. There's a tiger. There's a baby. Mike Tyson. I come home and my wife's like, how did that go? Oh, you know, and then like over the next few days it came out that I lost like $64,000. My wife was pissed. What is the most you've ever won?

1.45 million. Kids don't gamble. It's dumb. You're going to lose. You know, and if you think you're going to win, you're not. Vegas Matt. Bradley Mark. Yes, there you go.

See, you're already on it. I'll say Bradley Cooper. They've called me that. Some people call me that. Not as, uh, could be worse. Could be worse. Also not as famous. should do some more acting.

But how did you get the name Vegas, Matt? Well, I had a friend named Matt, and there were two mats in our little circle about 10 years ago, and he was from Colorado. And whenever they would come to Vegas to avoid confusion, they sort of calling me Vegas Matt. And so I had... You were from Vegas then.

Yeah, well, I was from Vegas, like the last 13 years. So I was from Vegas then when that happened. So they would always come to Vegas, and I was kind of their guy in Vegas. And so there wasn't confusion between the two mats. So I was Vegas Matt. And so that superseded the whole Vegas Matt gambling channel. And then when we went to name the channel, I guess E.J.

just said, let's call it Vegas Matt. It's stuck. Well, you said right before we got on this podcast, you were like, you asked me how long I've been doing YouTube for on social media. Yeah. I told you 15 years. And you were kind of like, I just got into this. What's going? Bob.

Jesus Christ, Bob. We're doing a podcast. Lucky Bob. You want to come in here? for a second? You want to say hello? Okay. Classic Bob. Okay. But how long have you been doing this? We started in like late 2021, I think. So like super new. I mean, compared to 15 years. Yeah. I don't know how you've done it for 15 years. This gets kind of exhausting. I also don't know how I've done it for 15 years. I think it's just what I would do anyways. Like I came from the sort of fitness space. And before I even got popular there, I was just, I just enjoyed talking to people about their

lights and shit. So the podcast stuff now is really like, oh, this is people pay to watch this. Like, this is easy, right? Yeah. So, but beyond that, you're obviously an older gentleman. No disrespect. I know. I'm older as well. We're off to a rocky start already. We're off to a rocky start. We're both older. We're both older. Well, I'm 62. So it's a little different. Yeah.

So my question is, like, you. you somehow you were probably really good at gambling. Obviously, you're great at it. It seems like, which I don't even know how you can be. That's a whole conversation. I'll ask you later. But how do you get from whatever you were doing and you're like, this sounds like a good idea.

I'm going to do this on the internet at your age? Because it's not normal because you know most content creators are 20 years old, 19, 18 now. Yeah. I'm young at heart. I still act about 16. It just sort of happened, you know, by accident, a happy accident. I loved gambling,

gambled every day with a bunch of, I guess, call them professional gamblers here in town. And then one day I got a royal flush and EJ filmed my reaction. We uploaded to TikTok, created a Vegas Matt account, got a ton of views. And I don't even know

that we remember exactly how it happened, but it wasn't by design. It was just kind of like, oh, let's throw it up there. Let's see what happens. Oh, that did well. Gosh, could we make money at this? you know, this seems like a good idea, and then it just took up. So one viral video. Yeah, that was, I think, what started at all was one viral.

I mean, not super viral. I mean, it was a terrible video. I show it when I do events sometimes, our first video, and in comparison to the production value and stuff now. I mean, it's just, it's terrible. But it was authentic, and my reaction was very enthusiastic, and it resonated with people, I guess, and it got a lot of views.

But you said you gambled, you like did that regularly before. you were just like an avid gambler? Like was it like what did you do before you gambled? Like how did you make money? I was a sales guy, you know, like just an app, I probably like a slightly above average income sales guy my whole life. And then I started buying properties. And so I had some rental income coming in.

I had some assets of retirement. And I was late 50s moved to Vegas from California. And I moved there when I was like 50. And spent most of my. time just pretending to still be working and, you know, managing my properties. But now I've noticed that everything still goes the same and I don't do anything anymore. So I guess I wasn't really doing very much. And I just had a, you know, like a decent amount of income where I could go play video poker, you know, a few nights a week and go to the casino. And that was just our recreation.

And I just, so I gambled a lot just recreationally while I was semi-retired. So, You knew how previously before gambling, you knew how to manage money, it sounds like, because you did well in a sales space, you had real estate. How do you manage money in not, I mean, you can't not lose in gambling, because obviously that's a part of gambling, but how do you continue to stack it up? Because I think that's a question I've always, like, so curious about just interacting and being around Steve so much, and I know you know him, I know he's a little crazier, probably a lot crazier than you in a lot of ways, but he's just constantly on these swings.

Like how do you manage not losing at all? Yeah. I wonder about those guys too, you know, because it's like we have a pretty big channel now and some good sponsors and you make good money. But, you know, by the time you pay 40% in income taxes and you start to get some staff and things like that, it's like, you know, there's only so much money. And, you know, I watch, you know, Steve going around and like buying people houses and giving He bought me a car.

You're giving people cars and, you know, just he's, he's an anomaly. And I mean, I look at the gambling as just, you know, I try to gamble at a reasonable level most of the time. And there's, in our operation, you know, there's several partners. And so it's not just all my money. And we don't do the lose and win millions of dollars that, you know, that he does. we last year we actually won $13,000. We keep pretty good records. Like there in the entire year,

our net income from gambling was a positive $13,000. I wonder what Steve's is, bro. Or I wonder if he's even up. Yeah, I... Obviously you can't speak to that. You made me think of that. Oh, I can imagine. Wait, so 13, but you gamble like,

because I looked at your YouTube, you have like daily uploads of gambling. Yeah. And on those typically, what are the swings like oh you know our our average day is probably win or lose up to like 20,000 i mean we don't really gamble that big our average spin is probably 50 to 60 dollars a spin and uh we don't gamble massively i think what ours is rather than just the shock value of oh my god that's an insane amount of gambling it's more like a podcast almost it's four guys that just sit around and talk about

whatever and we happen to be gambling and while we're talking you happen to see slot machines or table games but it's more of us kind of it's like what if four guys gambled every day for 1,500 days straight what if you were in Vegas every day and that's sort of what people watch and they tune in kind of more for the banter and the jokes and whatnot than necessarily watching these incredible gambles every once in a while we'll do something nuts like just today actually a video came out that is just going going bananas because we a few of us went together pitched in and we gambled $5,000 a spin

for an hour in 10 minutes. So like literally put millions of dollars through and ended up winning a million what was it? $1.45 million. That's my son E.J. As I said I think I'd almost want him to be here because he knows when it comes to detail. he knows much more than I do.

Yeah. You say, jump in here real quick. Yeah. And also, I don't know whether to look at you or whether to look at the camera. Me, me, me. Oh, look at you. Okay.

I don't know. Yeah. I just want, this might not be my good angle. Is it better if you look at me? I don't know. Like, you know, like, you know, like, you go from the side. You know, sit over here? Fuck you.

I'll sit up like this. Hey, you know, got to have good posture, too, on a couch like this. What is the most, uh, the most you've ever won? I think that was it, right? Yeah, that was it. Yeah, that was it. 1.45 million. The biggest bonus was that day,

we won 703,000 and one bonus. It was just on a slot. On a slot machine, yeah. It was here in Vegas. But we could, I mean, you could make a movie about that day. Like coordinating it with like 15 of us, like, okay, we know we want to go play it.

It's 5,000 in a spin. We need to have access to $2 million in case we lose because there's a little counter that we chase. And if it gets high, we can't quit. So we're like all coordinating it. we finally get going and we're five hours in. Every time you hit a bonus over 250,000, the casino managers have to come.

They open the machine. They verify it's not broken. So all in all, it took 11 hours or 10 hours and we won 1.45 million. It was the craziest day ever. Have you ever been kicked out of casinos for winning too much? Once. Again, not,

I won't like name a specific name. But it's strangely the answer to that question is yes, there's one casino that has banned me from going there because I basically, because we won too much. I'm just going to guess it. We can cut this out and you could say yes or no, but I've just, because I've heard other people getting banned from this place. No. Okay. Wait, what is it? We'll cut it. I like this. Just tell me. Oh. Okay. Really? Yeah. The only other person I heard of getting kicked out of casinos was Dana White. Right. Yeah. Well, they don't, I mean, casinos, I guess they don't really like it if you

win too much, you know, but I mean, we have no magic formula. You know, some people will sit there and tell you that they have this magic way of beating the casinos or something like that. No, I mean, every once in a while we'll get lucky and we'll win, but I mean, the reality is you push the button and pray for luck. Yeah. So there's no, there's no like cheat code. No, I mean, not that I'm aware of. I mean, you can play, you know, intelligently. I mean, if you have a choice of playing video poker on a game where, you know, the full house at one casino over here, the full house might pay six coins, and over here it might pay seven coins on a specific game.

You know, if you're smart enough to look at the pay table before you start playing video poker, play the better game, you know? There are certain games that have dynamics to them where, like, there's a must-hit feature. You know, it must-hit by $10,000, something like, that. And if you walk up on the machine and it's at 9,700, you sit down, we'll play it until we hit it. Yeah, like, how do you know which slots to go for? I just ask one of the other guys that

are smart. Is there like a formula? Is there like a, because like right now you just said a certain numbers on the board. You're like, okay, you're looking for that. Let's go there. Well, I mean, on the must hit is an example. So you'll, you'll see it'll have like the major jackpot. It must hit by $10,000 and every time you put $100 to it, it goes up by $5. And so that you're watching it is at, you know, $9,725. And I mean, there are people way smarter than me that I'm surrounded by that could tell you, okay, well, if you, you know, are likely to hit it any, it's randomly can hit it any time.

And so there's $270 worth, you know, until you get $10,000. and it adds a nickel per $100 through. You have to put $223,000. The RTP on this particular machine is 93.1%. And they can mathematically figure out exactly return to player. Yeah, so the return to player. So every slot has a specific return to player. Like, you know, the most popular game in the casino, I think,

is Dragon Link. You know, the one where you've got to get six fireballs. Yeah, we were playing out with Bob last night. Yeah. Bob likes that game. He didn't do too well. Well, he did good for a second. Yeah, it got to like 40,000.

Yeah, it's good to know when to quit. Yeah, he's not. It wasn't his money, so. But the slot manufacturers, you know, so they give the game, release the game to the casino, and then their settings on the thing, they can set the return to player. Like on that game, I don't know,

what do you think it is, 88 to 89 to 92% or something like that. So some range in there. So some casinos have their RTP set better for the player than others. You know, there's ways of finding out what that is and all this kind of stuff. So there is some intelligence to gambling smarter, but there's no like, like you said, there's no real cheat code.

This is all common information that's out there to people who want. It sounds like you just need like a good gambling team, like a buddies. Yeah, you need the Ws as we call them. W2 Jesus and WBG. You've got those guys, then you know everything. So what's the most fun? you've ever had gambling. Probably that video that came out today.

I mean, it's insane. I mean, here's all of our buddies. We all pull our money. We bring $2 million to the casino. And we're playing $5,000. You're about $2 million.

$2 million. $2 million, because in case we needed it, because we were at that particular, yeah. Yeah, so that game must hit. That game,

you can't must hit anything. Well, that game has a little counter on it in the top right. And it says, when this counter gets to 1888, it guarantees that you will get one additional bonus. So we were just like,

I will play till we hit that bonus just for fun. And so we knew that we had to go till we hit the counter. So we can't move it to 1858 and then run out of money and somebody walks up and does two spins. I see. You know what I mean?

We just have to make sure we have enough money to finish the whole deal. So it's about the bank roll? I mean, kind of. Is he the professional? Sounds like he's the professional. He's gotten to know a lot of them very well and he's pretty smart.

And I mean, I sometimes do a little Colombo and pretend to be dumb. It's just because too much effort to explain stuff. But there's nothing that really terribly secretive or complex about it. It's just that most people don't know. Most people's walk into the casino, put money in a machine, hit the button.

You know, like, I mean, simple stuff, like, you know, at certain casinos, Red Rock, where you guys go all the time. If you're a local on Thursdays and Sundays, but when you walk in, the first thing you should do is swipe your players card at a kiosk because they offer 10 times points. And on a typical session, if we play at Red Rock or Green Valley, for

example, on a Thursday or Sunday night, the amount of coin in that we do, those 10 times points at the end of the session, we can cash out and get about a thousand dollars back. So a person who doesn't know to play on Thursday or Sunday nights at stations and doesn't know to swipe their car, because if you don't swipe your card, you don't get that money. So there's this little, little things that you can do to be more intelligent in your gambling. Yeah. Also like those places, can't you get like a lot of stuff for free if you gamble a lot? Yeah, that's sort of without saying like I almost have a religious opposition to paying for food now after doing this for four or five years. You know, and it's and it's like people always, we go to a casino and they're like, you know, okay, you know, what time do you want a reservation at the steakhouse?

It's like we don't have time for a four hour dinner and a thousand dollar bottle of wine. We got to make videos, you know? So it's like you become immune to it. We've had so many expensive free dinners that were almost over it. I'd rather just go to the food court and get a taco. It's crazy. Yeah. So crazy. The gambling life is just so interesting to me because I feel like it's just so nerve-wracking. Yeah.

It is. It is. But I mean, now it's just fun, you know. I mean, like I'm saying to you doing this fame thing, let's call it. Like that's the part that is a trip, you know? And it's like just like our last 24 hours just to get here. You know, we're excited to be here, by the way. And to get here when we, you know, I mean, I flew from Belize.

went to Phoenix, was in Phoenix, got an earlier flight, you know, had to drive in traffic. There's just, there's just like all these exciting things like, oh, be on the Bradley Martin podcast. Like, what universe would that have ever happened to me five years ago if someone had told me that would be my life? I never would have believed it. Yeah. And that's what's so interesting and so cool about you.

It's just like I said earlier, I wasn't trying to be, you know, rude about the age or anything, but it's just not common for people who are older to get into a space and, like, excel at a really high level. Well, you know, I've always been... So you've done a great job, obviously. Always been exceptional, you know. Oh, a lot of people are saying it. No, and it's, it's dope, though.

Yeah, it's fun. Like, I think it's just cool because, you know, most people know it as, like, a very young person's game. And it kind of just proves that that's just, it's not true. It's just like wherever you find your niche and that people are connecting to you. I just, I get such a kick out of it, you know, like when we go to power slap and I'm meeting all these people and I'm asking, he's that guy, you know? Or I was sitting down at a Baccaro table like, I don't know, maybe two years ago.

And, you know, I'm sitting next to Togi. I had no idea who he was, but very nice kid, you know, and we're just playing and he's, you know, talking to me and, and just meeting all these people. I mean, they're all just just real normal people. Yeah. Some of them are a little crazy normal, but I mean, they're just people, you know what I mean? And it's just fun to be in that world and to, you know, to just casually be, you know,

have Dana White walk by on his way to go back to the room. Oh, it's up, Dana, you know, like, not that I'm like, he's my boy and I know him, but, I mean, I've met him a bunch of times. and he's a nice guy or just the fact that this YouTube and this gambling thing has allowed us to get into this fun world and to be able to do it with my son. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. It's pretty fun.

That's awesome. So who do you think the coolest person you've met throughout all this is? Or gambling. Who's the, in your mind, you're gambling, you're with somebody, you're like, this is a trip. Yeah. Kind of like a Togo thing, but is there anyone else? I could go through almost all of them.

It's kind of neat. Like the first celebrity-ish person that we met was Bryce Hall, I believe, I think. Bryce Hall was very nice. He now lives here in Vegas. We did a thing with him, and he was just very pleasant. And we were just a small baby channel, and he came on, and that helped us. And then Steve texted Instagram message DJ, and he said to me, he's like, hey, Steve will do it.

And I knew who Steve was, and I'm like, he messaged me out, but that's really cool. He wants to stream with us. And I'm like, yeah, let's do it. And so meeting Steve was really, really fun, and that gave us a big bump. Like, he's such a cool cat. I mean, I know he's a friend of yours. And just such a nice guy. I mean, he's really hot and cold.

Let me tell you, like sometimes he'll be like text me 20 times. But other times I'll text him, I can't get a hold of the guy for a week. He's going in Nicaragua, you know, feeding the what the people or whatever he's doing. Yeah, give him money. I mean, that's Steve. Yeah. For even me, for everyone. Yeah.

So I don't take it personally. I have a personal thing. I don't like when people don't text me. right back. But it's like, I know you got your phone, but Steve was really neat. And that was a big bump. So we have a lot of younger followers and Instagram followers because of doing our streams with Steve. Yeah. Another one that was fun was Gronk. I almost said Grock. That's the AI. Gronk, the football guy. Yeah. And then now that we're working with the Fountain Blue, I've had a chance to meet a lot of people that come through there. Like Mark, is it Mark Anthony? The singer. I always think of

the guy that was married to J-Lo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, I played a hand with him. And actually, we wanted to give $5,000 to his charity. He's got a charity he's really passionate about. So we brought $35,000. We played $5,000. What?

Oh, that was Patty. I get him confused. That was Patty Pimble. That was really cool. The UFC guy. Yeah, I saw you on a billboard when I was driving here. Oh, on the I-15. Yeah.

That's been fun. People from my high school text me. I just saw a billboard of you on the, I was driving from Vegas. And it's like, that's for the El Cortez because we play there a lot. We have a great relationship with them. And yeah, so they put a billboard up. So how does this work, like the sponsorships from whether it's like an online sort of sweepstakes casino thing or if it's like a brick and mortar, do they pay you to gamble? That's a really interesting topic.

Like people say like, oh, it's fake. or whatever. It's like it's not their money. So it so yes like the sponsors pay us right. Let's just say that I think the best way to do it is they pay us to use the NIL and advertising and on their site for a bunch of different things. So they're licensing the image and they pay us for that and then we in turn play on their product as well but the money that we're using to play whether it's at a casino or online or whatever is ours win or lose and so like what's like is this this is this is what? Dana. That's Dana's thing.

This is Dana. So let's say Dana and Dana, by the way, you should. Let's say Dana paid us to be drinking this all the time, okay? Or whatever. And so let's say we got a million dollars from this energy drink company. And then I took that million dollars and I went to the casino and I gambled it on the hand of Baccarat. So if I win that million dollars or lose that million dollars, is that my million dollars? Or is it fake money?

It's real money. I choose to go get. That's what I always want to get through to people. It's like, yes, we get paid. I mean, I don't, I work very, very hard. You know, I mean, it's fun as hell. Like this, I guess, are we working right now? Yeah, it's, you know, it's a blessing.

I'm not, I mean, but it's, it's not like there's no effort and people are, want to make money, right? So if, but if you make, if you earn money and then you gamble it, to me, that's still real money. That's like saying a plastic surgeon, all you do is like play with women's boobs all day. So if you go and, and lose that money, it's not real money because you didn't really do anything. It doesn't make any sense to me. So that's how I would answer that question. Yeah, I think because there's, there's,

the history of it, I think there's been times where there had been casinos or, you know, people would like get money and then it wasn't there like, quote unquote real money based on just certain deals and things like that. So I think that's where that came from that like, or just the idea that because a casino is paying you that it's not real. Yeah. But I get it. I mean, Obviously, if it is your money, then you're gambling your money and you're able to win 100% of that or lose 100% of that, there's no arguing that it's your money. Yeah, I mean, and people have really big opinions on all this stuff. Do you, like, spend a lot of time reading the comments? Or, like, I know you've been doing this long enough.

Like, because like today, for example, we have this great big video and there's people making comments that just piss me off because they just talk with such authority, all caps, exclamation points. You know, it's like saying things that are just. patently undrue. And they're like, you almost want to take the end. You know, it's like, you know, it's like, I'll type to like these responses and these guys tell me not to do it. I'm like, yeah, listen, why don't you just get up, go upstairs out of the basement and, you know,

talk to your parents about your childhood trauma that has you like spewing lies about someone you've never even met. You don't even know. So you've probably not a good idea to read the comments. Well, no, I think it's just recognizing that people, I think sort of as a. a whole, whenever it comes to certain things like, you know, you're able to gamble with so much money. It's more just like an envy thing.

Someone's wishing that maybe they're in that same position. So they don't think that it's possible that what's happening is as what it is, right? They're just like there's something else. A lot of people just think it's something else that's happening. Like, you know, I, people have said, I'm in a disposition because I, I'm part of some Illuminati or some shit like that. It's just like, how did I get here? Are you?

No. No, that was a good question. I keep waiting for them to call me. I'm waiting for that fucking call, too? It's like, you know, you can make 10 million a day, but, you know, just like, that would be the most interesting phone call. Like, but I, yeah, I don't know. But like, what do people say, the haters say to you? Like, those aren't real weights.

Like, those aren't 45 pound plates. Those are plastic and you're faking it and you don't even really have muscles. At this point, I've heard it all, right? Because I've done so many different types of content. But yeah, the fake weights or it's because of steroids, which obviously I take steroids. And so that does help. But there's just like anything you could think of. But at the end of the day, it's just kind of like, if they're still watching you, there's

something about you that they're relating with. And that's kind of like, it doesn't, you don't get, you can't live off of the negative bullshit. I just, I try, I guess the thing is, is let your haters be your motivators and ignore it and whatnot. But I just don't like when people say things that aren't true or are hurtful. Or like when they say stuff about my son, I mean, if someone's going to bust my son's balls, it's going to be me.

And like this, by the way, I think is an interesting segue. So I was mentioning you earlier. So E.J. and I have a hundred thousand dollar bet. that we made on the air or whatever on the YouTube. Yeah. And so he says he can get a six pack by the end of the year. We made this bet in like January. And I don't think so far he's done so much as a sit-up, you know,

and he eats just whatever. And so $100,000 on the line, and I don't know that we'd want to have him show you his soft, hasty stomach that he's working with to start with. It's not, I'm not like, I'm obviously a little. little soft right now, but I think I can get there. All right. Let's see you. You said, he said, the, the rough thing is he said, how old are you?

I said 31. He said, oof. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little more trouble. But like, so. Come over here. Come over here. Let me see. Let me see. Oh, he's got a good amount. Yeah, a little bit. Of what fat? Yeah. But I have nine months now. You could do it. It's not, it's not impossible. Okay. Have you ever heard of... Whose side do you like? His or mine?

His. Oh, shit. Sorry. No, that's okay. I mean, you're the authority. It has to be a real six-pack. He can't just, like, take a magic marker and, like, he squares on them. Yeah.

So what would I have to do to make sure I get it done? Have you ever heard of Retta? Yeah, yeah. That's what everybody's talking about these days. No, it's a peptide. Is it not a steroid, though? No, it's a peptide. Okay.

It's a chain of amino eye. It just makes you pretty much not hungry. And it's a little bit muscle preserving. So I just lose weight. Essentially, because you're not going to eat. eat as much. But there's a problem with it. Like, if you just don't eat at all, that's like, you're not getting the effect you're going to need, which is to have a six-pack, you do need a little bit of muscle for it to show. Obviously, everyone has the muscle underneath, but at the

same time, like, it's not, for some people, it is a symbol as just losing a ton of weight and just genetically, maybe they look that way. Yeah. But it really depends. Like, I don't know how you look when you get a little bit lower in body fat. Maybe, maybe it's there. Right. Um, you could do it. It's not impossible. Reda. Not redda. I mean, you could you're ready. Sure. But getting the, getting the bat, you could win the bat. Yeah. Should I do this red of stuff? Like, what do we?

Nah. You still already got the Manjaro going. Oh, yeah. Firing the shot up, you know? Well, oh, that's the, that's the same shit, basically. Just a little bit different. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the December. Well, you see yourself, like, I did this one podcast, and then they had the cameras, because that's why I was concerned about this. So they had one camera this way, one camera this way. And I looked like a frog. Like, I mean, it had nothing just like, and I was like, oh, my God, you're fat. And so then, so this was becoming famous.

or whatever you want to call it. Being on camera a lot is the best way to lose weight. For sure. Well, at least you're not a fitness influencer. Yeah, that would be a disaster if I was a fitness influencer. But I do do Tai Chi and on my on my Snapchat. I have a lot of I have a lot of followers now on my Tai Chi.

No, there's no way this is real. Oh, yeah. You're doing Tai Chi on Snapchat. I do Tai Chi on Snapchat. Yeah. You're fucking trolling me. If you're on Snapchat, follow. Is it Vegas Matt? It's Vegas Matt. It's Vegas Matt. You Vegas Matt everywhere. Well, some of them, you like, someone already had it.

So, like, on Snapchat, it's ITS, like, it's Vegas, Matt. On YouTube, it's fake, whatever, regular. If you search it, I'm sure you can find it. But I need to get more Snapchat followers because my Snapchat's not monetized yet. That's because you're doing Tai Chi. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if Tai Chi's going to get you that. No, but people are interested.

Maybe if you do Tai Chi with chicks. Yeah, you know. That will do it. Yeah, well, you know, we could do a collab. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Or just give them, you know, these girls. just give them a little money, they'll show up.

Really? Oh, yeah. I'll get up to get E.J. involved with that. I'm married forever. He's a single guy. Tai Chi is the funniest thing ever. Like, I was talking to, my friend and I were talking, and it's like, I was saying,

my dad's 62, and he gives Tai Chi lessons on Snapchat every morning. You're not just doing Tai Chi? You're trying to teach people Tai Chi? Oh, yeah? No, bro. Yeah? There's no way. It's actually his own variation called Tai Chi.

I call it Tai Chi. Yeah, anyway, it's just all fun in games. But it is interesting. and I gotta tell you it works and it's it's on you know I mean my shoulders feel better my posture is a disaster and so I've been doing there's just simple movements you do that that correct your posture and and then I don't know there's like weird stuff like tapping

like you tap yourself bro what the fuck are you talking about these meridian points and stuff and it's good I mean yeah I teach it all on my Snapchat you can subscribe you don't do any gambling stuff there No, because Snapchat doesn't do gambling. That's what I see. I knew it. I filmed a bunch of gambling stuff. I was like, oh, I don't know about this. And TikTok doesn't do gambling anymore either. They don't allow it. So, like, we'll do like, I'm obsessed with flying private, you know, because once you start doing that, you can't. It's like today we were on Southwest because we had to get here earlier and whatever. We didn't have a flight. So anyway, so it's like, you know, the TSA lines are a million miles long. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm an end it.

So, like, we'll do like jet reviews because we always chartered jets. I don't have my own and and so I'll do jet reviews and weird stuff on TikTok because we can't do gambling. So, and then what else? There's a new docu series about us that's kind of cool. What is it? When does it come on? It's every week. Yeah, it's four parts as of today.

The fourth episode came out. It's like a TV show. It's really interesting, kind of a behind the scenes, how it all came about. And so that, yeah, that's kind of interesting. The whole thing's just surreal, you know, it's just very, very interesting. very different. It's nuts. I mean, like to be able, like I said, I keep going to talk about this age thing. I feel actually super bad, but it's actually really fucking impressive that you've been able to like really do well on YouTube. Well, it's all EJ. I mean, he's the one who does

all that. What are you going to get in front of the camera? He does. I have been a little bit. He's just such a personality and that the brand is so strong nowadays that we're just sort of riding that as long as we can. But in the video that we talked about 20 times now with the 5K spins. I had a little segment in there. He actually had to leave in the middle of it to go play in this poker tournament. I didn't think it was take that long. I was in the celebrity poker tour, which is kind of fun, which I won once a couple years ago. And so I had to leave and go play in a poker tournament while they're doing these $5,000 spins. So I busted out of the tournament and then came back, but I was gone for like an hour. But I guess while I was gone, you hit the $703,000 bonus. No?

Oh, I was? I don't know. I don't know. I need some NAD, maybe. was a little memory medicine. But I think it's interesting. Like, let's say, let's just say tragically just like croaked, you know, right? And then I think E.J would take over. It would be like, I think, I don't know, it would be the legacy of Vegas Matt. Maybe you could have like a little, like a stuffed Vegas mat that would just sit in a chair and that, but you could do the talking or something. That would actually be crazy.

The funniest thing about him is, and this is a little insight into his personality, and he's been saying this since I was a little kid. So when I die, I want to be stuffed. No. The taxidermy to just hang out. You actually want to, you actually, is that? I do. I think like it would be like, it would be cool. Because I don't want to be burned.

That doesn't, that's, I'm, like, or stuck in a box in the dirt. I think, you know, do like a taxidermy deal, you know, and like, I've never met anyone in my life. Prop me up in the corner. Just like, there's grandpa, you know, just stuff me. See all this? But you can't do that. Is that illegal? Like, it just seems like if you want to be stuffed and, you know, like a, like a fish, like, you know, or a bear.

like a trophy it's like who's that oh that's my grandpa you'd be like one of these fucking one of these things yeah like Steve's got all over the here this place this crazy like transformers I like I like how he has the incredible Hulk out in his uh yeah in the gym yeah so so so I'm not really on that note but yeah on the note of like where you're going with it all what's the goal of it like what do you what do you want to do just keep gambling um again I enjoy gambling like I really like it I mean, I was just on a private island, you know, for a few days, the last few days. And so it's like we went snorkeling and then we went and ate dinner. And then I walked around and looked at the pelicans.

And then I was like, I wish there was a casino here. Like, let's get a poker game started. Like I enjoy gambling. I just enjoy goofing off, laughing, having fun. So we've dubbed 2006 the year. of fun. And so like our good friends at Chanced, for example, the guys that

gave me this sweatshirt, you know, like they'll say, well, what do you guys want to do that's fun? Let's have a contest and they'll sponsor contests like, what was it? The UFC, right? So they bought us a suite for the UFC and then

we did a contest and a bunch of fans got to come and hang out in the suite with us and go to UFC. It's like my goal is to... By the way, that's like an online sweepstakes. Yeah. There are sweepstakes casino and they...

Really cool guys. And so they're kind of like sponsoring the year of fun. Yeah. Because like someone who was old said to me one time, it's like, look, I got maybe 10 good summers left. And you know how like all of a sudden, as you get older, it happens faster, but all of a sudden it's winter and oh, it's cold. And then all of a sudden it's summer again. I was like, oh, I like the Vegas heat in the summertime. And then all of a sudden it's another summer.

And it's like at some, you don't have an endless amount of summers. You don't have an endless amount of, you know, whatever, birthdays, anniversaries, UFC fights, Super Bowls. Like, so I just want to do it all. Like, I figure I got about 10 good summers left, you know, maybe with Viagra 13. Yeah. You know, and so, like, I'm 62. Like, so I just, my biggest focus, certainly isn't gambling.

It's how many experiences can I have, can I enjoy? Can I, me and my friends and family enjoy? So my main focus is fun. If it's fun, I want to do it. And if we can make content around it and have fun and treat our fans, you know, like we're doing a big thing in Vegas where at the Fountain Blue where we have like a thousand people coming in and we're going to gamble and have a slot tournament and go to dinners and, you know, just party it up with like a thousand of your friends slash fans.

Yeah. That's my idea of fun. Yeah. I mean, that's what makes us like so rewarding. Just the content space in general is that like it is like obviously not. numbers on a screen, but it is real people. And so I've met so many people over the years and I'm just like, I've had great conversations with, great moments with people that I've even helped sort of join and enter the space. And just to see like, and to be able to have those moments,

it makes it all just so much more worth it. And then all the comments and all the negative shit, none of it really means anything because it is just like fun. It is enjoyable. If you look at our comments, it's like 99% of them are awesome. And then there's one percent idiots that say negative of lies and stupid things. But the nice fan, we've met so many of my good friends, like if you look at my last hundred texts, you know, a lot of them are people

that I didn't even know before this. They're just like fans that I met. Like, we do these cruises and we do like three or four cruises a year. And we bring a bunch of people that are gamblers and we get them free cruises because they get a gambling offer and then, or comp cruise, whatever, there's some legal thing you're supposed to say. What is it?

But if you gamble and you have an offer, the cruise wants you to come and gamble on the cruise, because you're there. So we bring like 250 cabins full of people, go and have an absolute blast. I've met some of my best friends now that are on, we're on cruise one that have come on every cruise since. Yeah. And it's just like you start to meet just the greatest people in this, you know, in this life. It's really fun. Or any of them, like, what you did before like salespeople? I mean, sure. I mean, I's a fairly common profession. But yeah, I don't think that that's, I think gambling is the common denominator. You know, they're all people. And I think games. And I think

gamblers are a fun group because we're optimist. You know, like, Oh, you have to be. Yeah, you have to be an optimist. And you're a risk taker and an optimist. And, you know, I, and generally, I don't know. I just really like gamblers. I think they're nice people.

And I've just met the nicest people. And there's just so many people that, you know, just want to have fun in life. I mean, life's short. There's enough bad news out there. We never talk politics or anything on our show. It's just fun and gambling and family and friends and people find that refreshing. And they want to look for the skeleton in the closet and they

want to say bad things about us. But the reality is there's nothing to say. We're just four normal, nice guys that hang out with each other and tell stupid dad jokes and gamble together. And that's the magic. People like it. It's a breath of fresh air. Yeah, it's just real. It's authentic. Yeah, it's authentic. And I think that's the key. People say, how can I, you know, do this, people always ask me that. I'm like, just,

you can't, you can't be me, you can't be Bradley Martin, you can't be Steve will do it, you can't be whoever you're trying to emulate Mr. Beast, whatever.

What is your authentic, you know, passion in life? What are you authentic? Like if you're a fisherman or spearfish, you like go spear fishing or you like to scuba dive

or you like to do, whatever you like to do, like do it authentically, that enthusiasm, your audience will find you. Yeah, that's, I mean,

that's, couldn't be said better. Well, that's exactly, and all my years are doing this too. Like, especially now, I think a lot of people want to be in the space because it's like, I think the most popular thing to get into because it's just like people see it. And I think they think it's easy. And in a lot of ways it is.

But I think the hardest thing is just to do that. Because there's so many now examples of like, you know, Vegas Matt's doing this or Steve's doing that. So I got to emulate or copy or do it this way. And the interesting thing is like the core of what makes you And what makes these other people successful that you just named is that they're doing something that is truly authentic to them and not because they just saw someone else do it Right. So it's like how do you find that? You know? Yeah, I mean, I think just be you. You know, my dad used to say be what you is because if you ain't where you is you is, you is what you ain't Dabre. Bars

Yeah. You didn't forget that shit. No. I think we had it on a pillow case on our in the garage like a live laugh love yeah Or something like that one of those kind of less corny. Way less corny. Yeah. That was actually way better. So what else, CJ? Bradley Martin, can you imagine we're sitting here? You've crushed you. You had a, what is it, Logan, Paul. I was on Logan's recently. Oh, okay.

I'm going to have him on, not recently, in the near future. Did you ever think, it's all because of your dad. Are you, talk to him about how grateful you are to have such a wonderful father. You've crushed it, man. No, he's done, he's done very well. I got, I just knew what was possible because I watched. you and Logan and all those guys for so long, and I knew that you could build this into something.

So the second, I remember what it was. We were at dinner. We filmed a video. It got 80,000 views. I was sort of in between things. I had made money with crypto and some real estate and stuff, but I was looking for something to do. And I was like, we might have something here.

So then made another video, made another video, made another video, learned how to make YouTube videos and then just built it into what I knew it could be. How did you, like, when did you realize he was a character for it? just from that video? He's always been. He's always been a character. I mean, he's, yeah, he's always had a big personality. And so I guess that one video, when it got a lot of views, I realized it could, it could be something huge. And then just ran with it. Was it, was it like exponential or was it kind of like this when you started originally? Ah, it was fairly exponential. I mean, we didn't really know what we were doing at first. We met a kid who was streaming on Twitch in the casinos and we heard like, oh, man, he's making $8,000 a month. And so we're like, all right, let's try that. And so we did that for a while. And then our other partner, WBG, was like,

now we have to start uploading YouTube videos. That's what when it's really going to. I'm not exactly sure. But then we started doing videos and we started doing. Trains a legend in space. Different train. Oh, okay. It's one of our moderators freight train.

But train is a legend in the gambling space. Train is like one of the biggest online gambling creators in the history of ever. Yeah. I don't think so. We probably will one day. He stays in Vancouver, I believe. Canada. Yeah. We met exposed. Is always out here. Yeah, yeah, we met him a few times.

But yeah, so he, I mean, I don't know. It's hard to remember. It's all just been ever since go. So you were the social media guy. You were like, this is the way to go. Yes. And then he told you, you're like, fuck it, I'll just do it. Well, I mean, he says, you know, he says, here, say this or whatever. And then we just came up with this format where he puts a camera on me. And I'm like, today, we're here at, you know, the casino. And we're going to play huff and puff and puff. And, you know, and maybe we'll win, maybe we'll lose or whatever. And then so we all sit. And then. down, he puts the camera on the screen, and then we all just start talking back and forth, and it just kind of evolved, and that's the formula. So it's like me saying an introduction,

a halftime report, you know, gambling. Oh crap, we just lost 10,000 bucks on this slot machine. Let's go play one hand of Bacra and get even or get even worse. And then we developed this. And then it was also been interesting. And I think you guys know about this. Because I don't know about the whole NELC, but I know that you're in that world and that you guys sold a lot of t-shirts and stuff. So, like, at some point in time, we're like, well, we should do merch, you know, and then so E.J. you know, did merch.

And then all of a sudden, you know, we're just selling tons and tons of merch. And really high-quality, phenomenal merch. A lot of people saying it's the best merch. Sorry. A lot of people are saying that. A lot of people are saying it. He's done a great job with that.

And he just learns all this stuff, you know. And we just kind of created the format and whatever. and if he doesn't know how to do something, he just looks it up on YouTube. Like, how do you do this? Or nowadays, you can ask AI anything and just figures it out. And we're just winging it, doing our best. What's the most important lesson that he's taught you? Yeah.

Your dad, obviously. Oh, man. Yeah, there's so many. Where do I start? He actually has a book with a lot of his best lessons that he just came out with. It's the bestseller. Wait, do you actually have a book? Wait, do you actually have a book?

Oh, yes. The art of being lucky. It's available at the Vegas Maddard. merch store at vegasmat.com. Nice. And then I it's yes but I wrote a book he was giving me a hard time about it because I thought it'd be cool to have a book to sign books. I always wanted to sign books. Yeah. And then so I actually took the time and took me like a year to write a book and it's just basically it's like my life meets personal development because I used to do a lot of personal developments public speaking. I worked for Tony Robbins and stuff like that in my previous life. And so so it's like a person my personal development journey being bullied as a child and then, you know, growing up and letting my haters be my motivators.

And then like, and then just always every time I get knocked down, try to do a little better. And then like, it's funny, this late in my life to have the biggest success I've ever had in my life. And then so it kind of takes us all the way up until about a year ago. I think I should probably write a sequel at this point in time. Talk about the Bradley Martin Cod. Yeah. The book's funny. I told him it was a waste of time.

I said, we're not going to make any money with your stupid book. He's like, I want something to sign. So like, do events, he signed. He sold like 12,000 copies already. That's awesome. Yeah. But I mean, I don't know. There are so many lessons.

I've seen him be successful and fail over and over again. So he's shown us that you're never out of it, you know? That's a joke that he makes in the show. The people who watch us will think that's funny. And then just have fun and work hard. That's what we do now every day. We work our ass up and we have a lot of fun. And so like he likes to fly on jets and I think it's dumb.

It's a waste of money. But it's what he enjoys and he has fun. So I'm like, all right, yeah, we'll try to do that more often, even though it's dumb and it may be flashy and kind of douche or whatever. But it makes him happy, so we're doing it. Yeah. Yeah. So do you have a jet?

No, no. No, I don't have a jet. Do you fly on steves, though? Yeah, sometimes. He always says it's a little, it's a shitty jet. Yeah, he said that. Oh, he said that. He said it was a poor person's jet.

Yeah. Which is like, it's just kind of like oxymoron, I guess. Right. Well, it's kind of, I mean, it's a smaller one. Yeah, but light jet, but it's good, you know, for the shorter runs and whatnot. I think the reason why he called it a poor person jet is because you have to stop to fill up in something. Like when you go certain distances. Right, it only go a certain.

But at the end of day, it's still a fucking jet. Still a jet. There's no TSA. So, so you, you worked in that space, the public sort of speaking? Yeah, yeah. I bet you that helped a lot in your ability to do you. I think so. Like, I've been in front of the room a lot. Like, I've done a lot of public speaking.

and I was between gigs one time. I've always kind of worked for myself. I tried working in a bank when I got out of school. I went to UC Santa Barbara because my mom wanted me to go to some fancy college. And I purposely wrote the essay really crappy, so I didn't get in. And I'm like, no, I want to go to Santa Barbara where there's a beach, you know, and party. And there's a bunch of girls. That was the fucking spot.

I think it still is the spot. Believe me in the 80s, it was the spot. And I mean, they've changed a lot of rules. There were no rules back when I went to UCSB. and so I got out and I got a degree in four years and I did well in school and all that I got an economics degree but what the hell does that mean?

So literally my first job was bank teller you know what I mean? Like with a degree got into a management training program and about 18 months into that I wanted to hang myself like it was just so awful every day was like torture

and so then I went into the movie business and I wanted to be an actor comedian but then I realized that that's not as easy as just going to Hollywood you know so I ended up being like a telemarketer for a production company raising money calling investors like, hello, Mr. Martin, this is Matt with XYZ productions.

Do you own a VCR? Well, yes, I do. Well, you know what? Did you own one two years ago? No. Well, the advent of the VCR has really increased the demand for movies. What we're doing is making low-budget horror films. You know, T&A, blood and guts.

Doesn't take a lot of money. You need to make a... What I want to do is send you some information. I would call total strangers and get them to invest $50, $100,000 in movies. And one of our movies actually got a thousand screen theatrical release, did really, really well. Talk about a cutthroat business, Hollywood, right?

So I did that for a few years. And then we made four movies, raised $10 million. One of them was really successful, but after a while I was just like dead burnout. So I got into something else. And then that, I rented problems with that. And that went out of business. And I was like, man, what did I enjoy?

And I'm like, well, Tony Robbins, because I bought the 30-day personal power audio cassette. So that's probably way before your time. But I'm like listening to my cassettes in the car, you know, and listening to Tony and all these type of different people. And so I was, my wife's like, well, you should just go work for him. And I'm like, so I started like asking my friends, like, does anybody know Tony Robbins? And then someone said, yeah, I have the franchise for his Oregon franchise. So I went up there and I was a salesperson in Oregon for Tony Robbins.

And I facilitated his trainings, whatever. So like that was just like one of the many chapters. Were you always a gambler throughout this time? Yeah, I liked gambling. I started gambling in. seventh grade, you know, lunch money poker games. And I was so I would play poker when I was a kid and my dad loved to play video poker and come to Vegas a lot.

And, but he used always tell me, you'll never get rich gambling. Like he really was concerned. Oh my God, was he wrong? I know. Oh, fuck. If only he was alive so I could be right. Yeah. But yeah, he used to say that all because he was, you know, he's always concerned with, he's like bad habits, you know, that you don't just get rid of him. You've got to drag him down the stairs and

kick him out of the house. Don't be drinking, gambling. You'll never get rich gambling. Like, he would say all this stuff to me, none of which I ever listened to. And so, yeah, I mean, I lived in California most of my life, and I would come to Vegas all the time. I've been to Vegas, I mean, let's see, 40 years,

at least, you know, at least 10, 15 times. I've been to Vegas over under 500 times in my life. And so I've always loved it, came here, get wrecked, lose $5,000 or $10,000, go home. Oh, try to make it back. It's interesting, you know, how, like, all the stuff you've sort of done, you're able to now you,

use on this platform on YouTube and the gambling and the live stream and everything. Oh, yeah. Like all of that stuff adds to like where you are exactly right now. The whole thing is surreal. Like sitting here, I mean, you know, the money that we're making, the fun that we're having. It's like I just went to my third Super Bowl. You know, I never been to a Super Bowl. You know, I couldn't afford the tickets or whatever.

Like, oh, $5,000 for $8,000 for a seat, you know. Now we go and it's free. You know, they want you there. They pay us, like the sponsors, like give us free Super Bowl or free UFC or free F1. You know, I mean, do you ever do sports betting? Oh, yeah. I don't know anything about sports, but we'll bet on anything. Like, so, like, we have this guy, Coach Z, who's an ex-NFL player, and he's a really smart sports better.

You know, he'll be like, oh, you know, I don't know, what was it? Like some college, you know, it's like, oh, this game, you know, whatever, I don't know, it was Michigan or, but there's like some small college you never heard about it. this game's a lock, you know? So, yeah. I mean, I've seen these guys bet hundreds of thousands on, on the sports and I'll just take a little piece of it. Oh, give me five or 10,000.

Yeah, I think for some reason, I mean, obviously gambling in general, it's like pretty much win or lose in the most part, but sports betting seems to be the safest if you know enough. Because I got, it's interesting, like I have a lot of friends who are like really good at UFC.

Like they know about people's camps. They know about like, you know, they're training. They know, like, insider sort of information on that side. So they're able to make really good, like, assessments on like where the fight goes. And I'm assuming the same kind of stuff like, you know, he said that one football game or that one basketball game.

You know, they'll know that players are injured or things like that. So they'll know how to, I feel like they could win a lot of money if you know enough about the sport. I don't know. I think I, I've missed every Super Bowl, you know, like so the first time I was like, okay, we bet on the 49ers and then the chiefs beat him. So then the next year I said, well, the chiefs never been against the chiefs.

And then Eagles beat him. This time I lost again. I've been on the Patriots because I didn't like the Eagles because the fans are too loud. Or who are there playing? I don't remember. You don't like to take the favorite. You don't like lay in money. Yeah, I don't like lay in money.

But it's funny, I don't even really care that much about sports, but I love going to sporting events. You know, like EJ was doing really good on UFC and you were, but then the last couple times you've been a complete disaster. Like you say, was it Pereira or the other guy? I forget, but we were wrong on that one. Yeah. Yeah. So you find your most success, it sounds like, with slots, though. Sure.

That's what we're known for is slots. And so people like to watch the slots the most, right? And I think slots are the most fun. They're the highest variance, right? Table games, you bet 10, you can win 10. Sports, you bet 100,000. You can win 100,000 or less. But slots, it's like the push of a button for $25, you can win a million.

Anything can happen. And so there's just so much more variance and so much more excitement when you play. slot machines. Whereas tables and all this other stuff, it's like, okay, you're flipping a coin heads or tails, you double your money or you lose with slots. It's just a lot more captivating. And I find it much more exciting. Speaking of coin flip, should I coin flip Steve for his bayback out here? I would do. I would do it. I would do it. I would pay a hundred. He's always going to give you some sort of favorable deal back. Yeah, I'm thinking that. Yeah. But I mean, even if he doesn't, I don't know. But I'm not to like lose $180,000 like on the spot.

Do you want the Mayback? Yeah. I really want to. Because I could also just win it and drive. Is it a good deal? Like if you lose, is he giving you a good deal? Yeah, Steve would give me a good deal. He wouldn't, I wouldn't lose it all in the spot.

He'd be like, you know, take some money here. Well, like, how much would it cost you to buy the Mayback? That one, 180. I don't know. I would probably do it if I was you. And you want the car. I mean, you have an edge. But those kind of things, like I don't like those.

Because then when you lose, it's just so, like, I love winning, but I hate losing. I hate fucking losing. Yeah, I don't like it at all. So I'm actually kind of funny enough, conservative-ish. You know what gambling? Yeah, like I don't, like these guys the other day, they're having like $5,000 side bets

on whether it's going to be coins or balls, the next bonus that we hit. I was just like, that just seems crazy to me. But people have different risk tolerance. Steve, you know, is just, but that's his magic, is the nuts. Yeah, I don't understand. Coin flip for a house or something like that.

Yeah, coin flip for Togies, $2 million. dollar house he won it. And how did Togi feel when he lost that coin flip? Terrible because he's still paying for the house. Pay for it every month. I saw that. Yeah. He's literally paying like I saw that on a podcast. Yeah, he's literally paying like I don't know how much a month every month and it's just the house is just there.

Yeah, he's, I. And Steve is so funny to me, he's like, yeah, whenever you're in, I'm not going to say where it is, but wherever you're in Florida, the house is yours. Yeah. I'm not even there. And then Toggi was saying that he's like, I should just sell the house and give him money. He's paying the mortgage. Yes. So over 30 years, he's going to end up losing like five million dollars over this rather than just selling the house and giving it. So crazy

because both those guys do not give a fuck. No, they're nuts. But I don't understand how do you even get that mentality? Like when you like when I see them lose like a million dollars, you know? Like I love playing online. Like it's a controversial like you know, some people are all online.

The online slots. I love it too. The RTP is better because they don't have the cost of a building. They don't have the cost of a building. like all the employees and so forth. There's no smoking. You could be sitting here, well, not Nevada,

but you could be sitting in your couch if you're lucky enough to live in a state where you can gamble online and just play on your phone. I love it. But I watch them and then if they lose like a million or two million dollars,

I would be having an absolute come apart. Like even on the big video that we just did that we're all excited about today, the $5,000 spins, that was divided up between like 10 of us. You know what I mean?

And so it's like, I'm not taking all that act. I'm not going to take a $2 million swing. Like, let's say you have a net worth and my net worth is nothing near what it says on the internet. Like the people just make stuff up all over the place. But let's say you had X number of millions of dollars. You know, again, after saving and after taxes and whatever, like actual money in your net worth, you have to be really, really, really, really rich to lose a million or $2 million and not be like clinically depressed. I don't know how they do it at their age.

I have no idea. I just know Steve's really good at making money. Yeah. Even if he's losing money, he just, like, has this insane ability. Just like money just finds him. Yeah. Or moving money around. I don't get it.

I mean, I've seen the guy lose a million dollars. I've seen him win a million dollars. It's just like in person, too. Yeah. Obviously online, like crazy swings. I got to make up like a drink, like, I'm going to call it grumpy dad. Grumpy grandpa. But I mean, that's kind of cool, like how these guys have,

about these brands that they made, like, you know, and they made all this money. Like that's, that's the big deals, get like a big exit. So I got to come up with a product, maybe like a, like, I don't know, like a, I don't know, what would an old guy, like maybe an herbal Viagra drink or something like that? And then just like, and then everyone's drinking it. It's like, oh, man, yeah, Vegas, Matt's a good market too. Fire it in their product. If you want to fire it in there at an old age, drink, fire it in there.

You know, and then get bought by Pepsi for like 250 million. Yeah. And then I'll go lose a million. Dude, I don't even think Steve's made a ton of money from that, you know? Yeah. He's made a lot of money, the gambling stuff. Or whatever it's from, it's not in my business. I'm just saying that that seems like, you know, whenever you have a big exit or something

that, that's like, like, you know, some of these people I've seen their, you know, heard tales, you know. Yeah. I'm trying to learn from you guys, you know. Yeah, fuck. Again, I just think it's, I just see craziness. You could start your own brand of steroids, maybe. Yeah, TRT thing, yeah. Did you do that already?

No, not yet. Oh, you should. Yeah. These are the best ones. You should use EJ. Like, get him in shape. Just to look at this soft, pasty, white stomach kid. And next thing you know, he's like super jacked.

And you guys are like in the Bahamas doing a commercial for like your, you're, yeah, we could do it on the Belize. And then you'd be like, yes, E. E.J. was a complete disaster. Then he took Bradley Martin's T.R.TP. And he's just killing it now. And then he's got like 10 girls all over him. And it's like, you know, people like with a fan. and he's just like,

yeah, spray my muscles with oil or something, you know, like this is all because of your product. That's how you make, that's how you make the big bucks. Yeah, yeah.

Well, you need the protein to build the muscle. Yeah, of sure. So what other, what other sort of ventures are you most interested in outside of gambling? Is it like the real estate stuff still?

I mean, I don't know. I'm interested in anything that's fun. I like making money, you know, like I don't want to, everyone's always saying, oh, invest in this,

invest in that. And then every single time I've ever invest with anyone that I know in anything, I've always lost. I like, you know, it's like, oh, I want to start a donut shop. Different type of gamble.

You know, it's like everything. So it's like just try to be conservative, make as much money as I possibly can, have as much fun as I possibly can. Just so venture wise, I mean, this is pretty all-consuming. Yeah. And so, you know, we're doing great.

It almost seems like we need more hours in the day, you know, and we've got some great sponsors. And I love living in Vegas. So what else am I excited about? I don't know. Really, there's not, this is the most exciting thing that I think. Is there anything I'm forgetting about that I'm excited about? I don't know if you're excited about it,

but I know that you have a lot of like a younger demographic maybe than we do. Our skews a little older. I think that it's important that a lot of these people realize that gambling is a complete disaster. It's a terrible, terrible habit. We do it and it's fun. And it may not seem like it all the time, but we do do it responsibly for our, means or our group's means. If you're a young guy starting a family and you're out there losing

all your money, that is completely idiotic and we do not advise that at all. Like I want to make sure that we stress that it's only something to be done for fun and responsibly and don't let you get out of control. Unless it's a lock. Well, it's never a lock. I've heard Steve say that to you. There's that really famous script. Well, you're normally what I'm doing right now. No, Steve said that to you, which was hilarious, by the way. I've seen that clip hundreds of times, unless it's a lock. But there's no such thing as a lock,

even on sports, WBG, who's very smart. Remember that guy broke his elbow that? Pantosia, Pantosia was a lock. And they bet like $170,000 on it. And he falls when he told him for a take down, he breaks his arm. Yeah. And so there's no locks.

And it's just you have to be very careful and responsible. It is fun. It's getting bigger and bigger. And, but yeah, I just want to make sure that everyone is a weird. But how I'm to say about that? Yeah, go ahead. So, yeah, I like gambling, right? Okay, so Blackjack is probably like the best.

Maybe it's 1% house edge. But every time you play a hand to Blackjack, you're losing 1%. So if you play for three, four days straight, you play thousands of hands. You're going to lose thousands of dollars. Probably more if you don't play perfect strategy. On a slot machine, the average slot machine in a land base is probably 8% house edge. So every $100 that you spin, you're losing $8. Mathematically, if you did it for an infinite horizon.

It's a losing problem. proposition. Oh, but I could maybe just go start a YouTube channel. Good luck. There's like thousands of people that have tried to start YouTube channels. Most of them go broke on just trying to make content. Like gambling before they even start to get any views. So yeah, gambling is recreation, but it's just like smoking, drinking, gambling, whatever else there is that's bad. pornography. Don't blame the me or the person who's, I guess the porn, people or whatever because it's like the

government in the sky or whoever like is the Illuminati or whatever that's going to call you one of these days. You know it's like they decide and gambling is legal. You know what I mean? It's like there's casinos everywhere. It's not my fault. You know, if people are like, yeah, you're evil. You know, shut up!

Is what I want to say. Okay? It's like we're gambling. Everybody gambles. There's gambling everywhere. And if you're not an idiot and a degenerate who can't control yourself, It's just like saying liquor stores, you know, the fact that it's like, hey, someone that can enjoy, like my wife can enjoy a nice glass of wine, you know, but some people are homeless in the gutter and they lose their family and they beat their dog. It's not the alcohol's fault. Yeah.

Sorry, don't get me started. No, no. But I mean, yes, responsible gambling. Don't kids. Don't gamble. It's dumb. You're going to lose. You know, and you think you're going to win, you're not.

All right? But if you have fun doing it and you can afford it, it said, if you don't feel like going to. some stupid club and getting a bunch of bottles of Asa Spades and spraying them all over someone or whatever other idiotic things you do with your money, buying crappy cars. Then if you want to gamble, go ahead and gamble, but you're probably going to lose. Yeah, I mean, I've always said it's like exactly what you said. You're picking where you want to spend your money is, but it's like if it's your last $500, it's probably a very bad idea. I mean, it's like if you're going to go to see a movie or if you're going to go to fucking Disneyland, if you're going to go somewhere and

just spending a bunch of money, you know you're spending it because you're, you want to have this fun experience. Yeah. That's the same way you got to treat Gamma. Like you have to know that you're going to lose it. And then if you win, great. But the hard thing I think people don't recognize is like how do they, and maybe the question is for you to, like, how do you know when to stop? I guess when you run out of money. No, I mean, just don't let that happen. As long as you don't run out of money, you're not out of it. I mean, how do you know, that's a good, like when I was younger, I was a complete disaster. I think I may still be. But like I would come here get completely hammered drunk.

I remember the hard rock used to be the spot back in the old days when Peter Morton was running. They had the peacock lounge, and it was like Dennis Rodman was there. And everything, it was like, it was like, it was an era. And I mean, I remember he took his like motorcycle out and crashed it in front. It was like, it was like.

Yeah, 90s, I think it was. And it was like that was the spot. And I'd go there and we would just be drinking like crazy and going to the club. And, you know, it'd be like one o'clock in the morning. I'm at some blackjack table and earlier and then I'm like, okay, I have $300, you know, and I can't lose that because I got a young child at home. My wife's there back home with the kids.

And then like, you know, so like I'm very conservative, just watching. And then like two in the morning, it's like, yeah, $1,000. I got a credit card banging it for a $10,000 cash advance, wake up at the morning, like looking around. There's a tiger. There's a baby. Mike Tyson, you know, whatever. And I literally, like, one time I was like, lost.

like $11,000. It took me like a year and a half to pay it back at my, you know, $40,000 a year job or whatever. It's a complete disaster. Don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah. So how do you, so how do you now, man? Obviously, your bankrolls way different. Yeah. How do you know when to like stop? After like the video is like 45 minutes long. As soon as the video's done. Well, I don't know, EJ, that's true, right? Like, I mean, it's like at this point in time, what we do is we film our daily session, you know, and so we basically are playing it for an amount of time. Is that true or not?

And also, what's the average you go in and gamble with? I think the average, the range of outcomes generally is 20,000 in either direction. We sort of have a formula where we know what the result's going to be either way. I would say for the average person, though, if it's starting to affect your mood or your personal life, is probably

a good time to stop doing it. Yeah. But for us, it's just, it's hard to answer that question because it's a business now. We can't. I mean, if we're losing so much that we're getting mad, we'll just go home for that day and reset. But that's pretty, you know, remember that time you went on tilt after Power Slap? Oh, that's a fun. Okay, so like I am still just like a kid, right? So Power Slap, I just loved those events because everyone's there. You know, it's like the entire internet was there. Yeah. You know, and so we're at Fountain Blue afterwards the other night at Power Slap. And I was, kind of a celebrity, you know? So I walk in and people are like, can I get a picture?

Can I get a picture? And I was like, I love this. It's so fun. And then so like I, and then like Marob, the UFC, he comes by and I'm like, oh, I'm taking a picture with Marab. And he's standing behind watching me and I'm at this Baccaraw table. And, you know, and then Dana's over here with doing the, you know, ridiculous level. But I'm playing like 5,000 to 25,000 hand.

I took a hundred thousand dollar marker. And I'm just doing this, you know, off the. reservation. We're not filming. This is just me, my money. And I, and I'm doing pretty good and I'm, and I'm playing. And then I'm just, I'm just trying to be like a show off and be one of the cool internet guys. I come home and my wife's like, how did that go? You know, and I'm like, oh, so fun. She's like, how'd you do? I'm like, oh, you know. And then like, over the next few days, it came out that I lost, like $64,000. My wife was pissed. And it was like, and so was I.

I felt like a complete idiot. When that like $64,000 of markers came out of my checking account, that's, that was dumb. There was no reason for me to do that. And that's fun. I got caught up in the gambling over or getting out of my skis or whatever that saying was. But I was just all caught up in the hype of, yeah, I'm a big YouTuber. And then the next morning I'm like an idiot getting yelled at by his wife. Yeah.

But it was fun, though. It was very fun. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got to do that. I like betting on power slap. Were you there? I went to, I was there maybe like three of them ago.

Okay. I've gone there a few times into the UFC and all that stuff. That's a fun event. Well, what else do you like to do with your 15 years of fame and fortune? What's fun? Is there any advice you could give us as young up-and-coming people that are just getting on the couch? You know, what do we do? Yeah, yeah.

I think it's everything you said before, which is like as long as you're having fun doing it, just keep doing it. Like, that's the key. I can't stress that enough for eight. even anyone who wants to make the content, like if you're not enjoying what you're doing, I know it's so cliche to say, but you're not going to sustain it. Like you're not going to keep coming back to do it.

And that's the biggest thing. Like on the internet in the space, it's all about consistency. Whether the views go down because that's like the way it moves because the platforms just, they get better, they get worse,

they get better, they get worse. As long as you're like enjoying it and having fun and you just keep doing it, you'll always be able to sort of build up to where you kind of want to go. I think that's the key. And if you're in it,

like you said, you're doing it for fun, like it's authentic. It's what you would have done sort of sounded like even if you weren't filming, you probably would be gambling for fun. Absolutely. Then it's even more so rewarding if you're able to do that as a business. So it's just like, do you actually give a fuck

about what you're doing or are you just doing it for money? And if you're just doing it for money, it's hard to sustain. So you're still having fun. Yeah. This format I love more than anything. Do you have a family or anything? I do not have a family, no. He's always, he's so funny. He's always pushing me, get it Ferrari. I really get

Like he wants to be me so bad. I want to be him. Yeah. And he's like, he's got a Toyota Tacoma. He doesn't do anything except for work and edit. That's fucking awesome, though.

I mean, I would be like absolute, I'd be more like Steve, I think. Like, I'd be a complete maniac. But E.J. is so stable.

It's funny because you're his kid. It's like complete opposite. It's the total opposite. Yeah. Like I would give anything if I could just get rid of him. Like that movie, I don't have you ever saw it where like they cut the people's brains out. and they get out, they take the old people and put their brains in the young person's body.

It's like, because this is like a waste, you know what I mean? Like, I should be him, you know, and I mean, I want to be 31 single YouTube producer extraordinaire. Your wife's going to be bad when she hears that. No, she knows. I mean, she knows me 37 years we've been married. She knows I'm, you know, I'll talk, no action. But it's like, it just seems like it would be a lot of fun to be your guy's age and be, like, rich and famous. I'd like to do it.

I mean, there's no fun being like old as hell, but rich and famous. I mean, it's a little bit of fun, but not quite the same. It's got to still be awesome, though. I think it's pretty awesome, yeah. Except when you get the call, 64,000 fucking dollars.

Yeah, oh, man, she was ready to kill me. But you've made so much more. I know, yeah. I mean, you know, you can do pretty good at these things. Hopefully, this gets a lot of use. Yeah, I think it'll do well, for sure. Yeah. You like the podcast, you say.

Yeah, I like, I like gambling, too. I just was never like, I've never found a way to really involve into what I've done because it's, you know, my content is just more like fitness, lifestyle, you know. I've never really gone that deep into it. I've done some live stream stuff. I've done a lot of stuff with Steve when he does it. But I'm kind of a pussy when it comes to gambling.

Like I'm afraid. I hate, like you said, I hate losing. Well, you probably work hard for your money and you like, I like my money. Like, I like looking at it in the bank and like, you know, and then like even the stock market, I look at it like a hundred times a day. The crypto, the stocks, you know, everything. Yeah. It's like, oh, I just won a half a million.

I lost a million, you know? And it's like, that's the biggest, that's the biggest casino in the world. Stocks, options, commodities, all that stuff. I mean, everything's a gamble in life. Like what you do is a gamble, what you just, you know, where you put your time and your energy. Even in relationships, it's all a gamble. That's true. Everything, I think.

That's why they invented condoms. Yes, that's true. Very true. Sorry. Degenerate. It's like, on that note. No, you're, dude, you're hilarious. Well, thank you.

I'm glad you guys have done this to this degree. It's fucking cool. And I actually didn't know that it was like a father-son duo thing. Obviously, you have the rest of your team as well. But I didn't know that that was. I was wondering who was talking. Bob came back, it looks like. Yeah, it's definitely Bob.

Yeah. Bob, come over here for a second. I'd love to have you come over your first sec. Remember, uh... Dude, Bob, they loved you. They loved you on the last pod. Bob was one of the first famous people we met. Remember that?

We called you lucky Bob. I have a real, you know, apology to make to... You always get me involved. Bob, come on, man. I want to say, like, E.J.'s been really great to me, and he's loaned me some money, you know, in the past, and for, like, when I want to fire, and I was on, like, 12 zaps. And so, like, thank you. No, you paid back.

You paid back. Well, I did get a little concern when you guys said that you've invested in so many things, and you've never made a return. Well, I hate to say it at the end of the day, here, gentlemen, no matter how much time it took, you made a return with memory. You got a little return, yeah. Are you pay interest? Of course I did.

I had to. Why is that? You had to. So, so that's why. I gave the interest to the debt collectors who came to get the money. Yes. We obviously, listen, we have to fix the markers. They say, there's a lot of markers out there, but you were one of them.

And said to say, you made money off memory. Congratulations, boys. All right, thank you. Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's so, Brad? Are we going gambling tonight? Are we going to go through a stream after this or what? So Steve woke me up yesterday.

So I had a marker with him for $45,000. Oh, boy. So I'm like, wow, that's really big. And so what I did was I landed him probably the biggest deal of his life that is closing, that you, it's signed right in front of us. for i think it'd be worth 20 to 40 20 to 50 million dollars and it's a garren so so so so my thing is this is how i'm gonna square the marker is i hate to do it to him i never would but i got to take 10% on that yeah if i bring him fucking 10 million bucks 10% i'm up a million now bring ej or me a deal like

that we'll give we we'll give you i don't want to five percent well i don't want to talk yeah i don't even take a percentage of you it doesn't matter i need it but i wouldn't i know we'd give it to you okay how do you make 20 40 million we can't talk about it now but after but it's an amazing It's probably Steve's new partnership that's going to be announced. Probably this, he has to do it by Wednesday because he's doing a very controversial video. And this is a very big company. I think they're valued at like $35 billion. They want to make the face of it.

Are you familiar with this deal? Yeah. And you like it? And Bob put it together? Do you have the 10% thing in writing? I don't need to write. And you never do anything wrong with it. You know that.

Steve. With Steve, it's like, Steve, it's like a different. There's nobody better in the world than that. What do you guys think about agents? because like I've tried hiring a couple of agents and I found they just bring me recycled deals that I turned down six months it was like why do we pay these people?

This is my thing too I had a really really really good agent I had like Johnny Depp said back to day like eight years and years ago Jack Wiggum was his name and Jack was like Jamie Fox everybody's agent whatever he represented me and even being the best the best

I think what you need is somebody who's like a dog like truthfully me when it comes to Steve like I work around the house all the time and just make try and make it money All right. That's it. And so, like, you need a person by your side who is, like, constantly in your ear. Yeah, more like someone, like, you know, like your son or someone closer to you and your team. Because a lot of times the money, like, from outside sources, like you're talking about what an agent would get.

They're already trying to find you, you know? So I would just go through that avenue. And you never sign an agent where that is 10% for every deal. But you should, no, no, no, that's just done. You don't even look at it at. And they say that, you don't even look at it. Your response is basically like, you eat what you kill. So if you bring me something, you get a percentage.

Yeah, that's how I've always worked with friends. Like, there's been a bunch of friends who brought me deals, and I just give him 10%. I don't care. I'm roping Brad into it and Toggi as well. And it's going to be, Matt, please, of course. I just don't know the, I told him, I said step by step. Let me take care of the big dog.

Boom, lock that in. That's like. It would work for, it would work for Matt, too, for sure. I know, I know. I mean, I'm very bullish on Matt, of course. and I'm you know so yeah Bob thank you to see you buddy

yeah but just so you know the only business like donut shops everything all filled operations he invested in the memory and made a thousand dollars in the other thing yeah it was a little bit of a time thing you know but the lucky Bob marker

was a winner lucky Bob loved the briefcase game oh that's what I do you want to go you want to go play the briefcase game we're going to put the $1,000 interest into the machine and then if we lose I'm just going to ask you for another loan

but you have to say know. Okay? Let's go. All right, we're going to go. Dude, it's been a fucking pleasure. Thanks, man. It was really fun. I'm really, really good to finally talk to you, like, in detail. Likewise. This is a beautiful thing, man.

So I'm proud to put what you guys have done for real. All right. So EJ.'s six pack, maybe can he text, can you text you for some advice? Yeah, absolutely. You can get my number. I will help you. I will actually help you. But I would bet, I would bet, I would bet with him. But I will help you even. I'll sell you some of the action.

I will. I'll take it. You think it's impossible? Like, what do you think my chances are? well how long have you actually been in the gym before like do you have any sort of yeah yeah yeah i mean i i worked out so it's been a bad start to the year i was uh i was sick for three weeks and then i got a stomach ulcer i call this yeah yeah yeah what's your most consistent time in the gym the year and a half i was going regularly when like how many years ago this was like six eight months

ago and i was but i wasn't eating and i wasn't like trying i wasn't doing it all the right way oh i was listen i will help you I'll help. Like, you could legit ask me, whatever, whenever. Okay. But I will take 50K of that action if you want. And I will help you. Wait, you're going to give up 50 and you feel like you have a lock here.

Or I'll take 25, whatever. 25. Okay, but how, what do you think it would take for me to do it? Like, how disciplined will I have to be with eating and exercising and how impossible? Every day. Every day. From now. For until the end of it.

Yeah. Cardio and abs. Yeah. Just give me the money. No. Fuck no. I'll let you off for 45,000 cash tonight. We'll call the bed off.

No, you're losing. I'm losing. No, you're losing. 25%? I mean, I'll,

like, we got a little bit more, because whenever I do deals, you know, you don't want to make sure that it's, we're crystal clear and everything. Yeah,

I mean, I would love to cut you in on it. I think we could have a good laugh about this, yeah, the whole thing. And if you're, but I've sold some of my action. Yeah, he sold some of his action to the,

to WBG and W2. What do they got? Like 40, 20, So 40% of his action, he's sold. So you're only going to lose 60. They're going to lose. Just because you're lazy.

You're going to cost your friends $40,000. So bad. We've uploaded a YouTube video every day for over a thousand days. But that's a part of the reason why I'm signing with him. Nah. And plus he's making so much money. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. You got a lock over here. I don't have that kind of money. We got a lock over here. Thank you so much. Again, that was fun. Thank you very much. Cool, man.

You too. Thank you.