RAWTALK - Wack 100 Exposes Industry Power Games, How Drake Could Be the Next Diddy & Why Ye’s Untouchable

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Wack100 & talks early life experiences, calling out Dr. Umar, Kendrick baiting Drake, reviving no jumper and much more!This Episode is Sponsored by: BetterHelp Visit https://www.BetterHelp.com/RAWTALK today to get 10% off your first month!Sponsored by: Monarch MoneyUse code RAWTALK at https://www.monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year!

If you tell me, there's a company down here that's buying dog shit, I'm going to sit back and say, how can I make some money off the dog shit? What could I, how could we catch the stray dogs? How could I knock on the door to convince the owners to let us come clean up your dog poop? And what kind of food can we feed them to keep, like, that's just me. And I'm an impulse thinker, and I kind of, like, I just, I think on the go. Yeah.

How'd you always, you must have always been that way. You know what? I can't say this. Because you said legal stuff versus illegal stuff. Yeah, I don't fuck with that. Because I come from you illegal. I come from illegal. I remember being young

and my family was like they were drug dealers in what city? In Pequoima over here a lot of my family you know they were they were drug dealers that's just what it was

you grew up seeing that in the 80s so and I seen it I'm talking about you know how you got the backhouse right here the back house back there was the people they caught that owe the money

and put the hand on the table and where my money boom pinky gone Like, I used to peek through the window seeing these things, right? So everything about my upbringing said I should have been that. But I would hear, or they called him, he went to jail, and he got five years for a $50 crack rock. Yeah. So it, $50, $50, that didn't add up.

So as I went on and went on, I've always had friends. Asian friends, white friends, Jewish friends that I would meet because I got bused out school. So I would go hang with them, meet their brothers and uncles and stuff like that. And when you got on their side of the track, they were criminals too. They were just white-collar criminals. And guess what? They'll get caught doing some shit for $200 million and get probation. yeah so um when i was hustling i went that way that's why a lot of people like we don't remember him

on the block selling drugs as i wasn't they didn't know what the hell i was doing because i'm doing things with people that don't look like me that don't live where i live but they just trust me and um but what did come along with it that got me in trouble was violence i lived what i lived the gang aspect was there you know what i mean so the violence but even back then i I was operating different. Like, I never operated amongst my whole neighborhood. I created a click. We had a click, and that's it.

And I just, I didn't care about the whole neighborhood. Just my click and what our rules were. But I used to watch the Godfather five days a week. Every time I swear. I'm not going to lie, that's funny. You're going to laugh at it. It's funny. When things will go on in the streets, I watched it so much, I would go back and go to the

part of the movie that related to that. And I would come up with my plan of attack. No way. I swear it. Even today, I can call my girl, the one you met, R&B at the airport. Yeah, yeah. I've made her watch the movie 10 times to understand

me. I told her about eight months ago, I said, hey, music is slowing down. A few things I do to make money slowing down. I said, go ahead and watch part two when Mikey had to leave. And then you're going to understand why That's a change in me because when Mikey's home got shot up,

he knew at that point in time some of his resources had turned on him and went another way and he had to venture out and figure out what was going on for the future of the family. So it was just like, but with doing that, it gave me, I was always thinking older. You know, at 14, the dudes I hung out with was 30, 35. People my age just did make sense. And it landed me in jail and I ended up being in prison at a very young age.

For how long? My first trip, 12 years old, I called a Sawdice Dele weapon non-firearm, shot a dude in the face like 28 times with a pellet gun. For what? He called my mother to be worse. So what happened was we're in the backyard. my friends got the OG Daisy pump BB gun I had

there was one with the CO2 canister the handgun with pellets so I went in to we get another cartridge I think a BB had went through and maybe hit his kid on the side of the gate so he's come around

so I hear my mom at the door he's like yeah Mike you know his English is real broken my kid shot shot he's like okay well let me I think they're in the backyard So she didn't even know I was in the house So when I came out of the house He saw me with the gun in my hand He like, no him

He said no he's been in the house She's trying to like back He's pissed off His English is broken And he said it You've called her a B word And I ran But you gotta remember

Coming out the streets Watching my older brother Watching my cousin's uncles In the back house How they say you're supposed to handle things Watching these crazy movies Right And I was always

always taught if we're not here your father's not here your older brother's not here you're the man of the house yeah right and i ran up on him and i was very athletic i've been athletic since i've been like four years old i was the water boy for the all-star teams and track and basketball yeah we can go at russell white a few key people that end up going pro i was they water boys and and and and you know all of that right so i was always a strong kid i worked out with my My uncles and brothers, like, whenever they went, they used to go to, like, Zuma Beach and run. I wanted to go. Yeah.

They can leave him behind, but I wouldn't stop, right? My uncle had this crazy German Shepherd named Killer, who used to go with him and run with him. So that would keep me running because I was scared of killer. I didn't want him to catch me. So when I ran up on the guy and started popping him, he grabbed my hand. But I was, I filled him up. I hit him like 28 times in the face. And so you get, that's juvenile, though.

So you get like- Juvenile. I was on the run for about. four or five months and my sister-in-law forgot I'm sleeping in her Cherokee Jeep running around. She's doing errands. And she forgot and pulled up

in my mother's driveway. Squad car had been sitting there every day looking for me. Yeah. And I went to jail for that. I did about maybe two, three months or months or so got out on probation. And then from there is just the violence got

worse and worse with the gang bang. And I've never been to jail for for drugs or nothing like that. It was all violence, murders, tempted murders, assault with deadly weapons, and things like that. And in and out, went to YAA, youth authority, and then at 16, I got filed unfit. I had two counts of assault with a deadly weapon,

one count of discharging firearm and city limits, one count of firing into a vehicle, and one kind of fire into a dwelling because when he drove in the garage closed a garage I jumped out, reloaded, lit the house up. This is the actual gun. No, this is real shit.

Yeah, it's not like a pelican. Yeah, dude, it was, dude tried to, maybe I cut him off or something. I don't know what I did. And I seen him kind of pull up on the side of him. He was kind of talking crazy. I had a 1978 Cadillax Seville. That's a beautiful car.

Yeah, I had Cadillac Centrons and Voles the grill, the rag top, the plushed the interior. Back then, we had the, I had the premier face off, not to pull out. I was balling. I was a young baller, what it took. You know, 20,000 in the Great Century Safe? You know, all those said, a couple pistols? He was bawling in the ghetto.

You know, we didn't buy new cars. We brought old cars and fixed them up. And he pulled on the side of me, and I seen them saying something. And back in those days, we rolled what you call lap strap. When you keep your gun on your lap. So, dude got out. The only thing he saved me, brother, is dude had a long Jesse James Clint Eastwood gun.

So when he went in his waistband... Oh, he had a gun too. It took him so long to get it out. I seen it, and I just stopped popping at him through the passenger side window. It startled him, because I think he was talking crazy to me so long on the side of me, he thought I didn't have nothing. Yeah.

So he jumped in the car and tried to get away, and I chased him down, and one thing led to another, but then he went and played Karen on me, called the cops. I think people seen it, and they called him and say, hey, do you know who that was who you just got into it with? And my click at that time was notorious. Because obviously he had a little heart because he really once started it. But I think once people start telling them who I was and what I was tied to,

he was like, screw that. He called the cops. You know what? I'm glad he called the cops on him. How long did you get for that? I was looking at 17 years at the time. Because did they consider an attempted murder? Could you follow them?

Well, yeah. Well, yeah, what they did, they charged me with two counts with Sawadilly weapon. So I was looking at 17 years. They filed me unfit. So they're like, because Sacramento sends a letter down and says due to his files and his level of manipulation, and sophistication, we find him unfit

into a juvenile facility. We bound him over to a dope attention. So I'm going every day, they picket me up. I get up and they transfer me to the county jail to get on the bus to go to Van Nuys court or whatever, right? Yeah. So the judge end up giving me seven years

but have time to do three and a half years. end up doing like five years, ten months, or six years, because this was a time when the racial tension between blacks and Hispanics ignited, which was new to me because I grew up at McCoyma, blacks and Hispanics, we grew up together, we got along. Crips and Bloods were the Crips and Bloods,

and then Hispanics did their thing amongst themselves. So I come into the system right when the Sudanian, said unite we're all one yeah and so with dealing with that i let me see i started at delano solidad pleasant valley and then i end up closing out in new corcoran so i touched four prisons on that stint and i end up i think i did a violation at chucka wallachino uh somewhere else i went so i do i hit like six seven prisons but i believe that if I wouldn't have went to prison, I would either been dead or I'd have called life

because of things that were going on on the streets, I know I'd have been overly involved in one way or another. So it kind of saved me. And I was able to get in there and realize, like, bro, you know how many 50-year-old dudes I taught out of reading, right? You know what I mean? Because I was always a straight-A student.

I was always a Magna kid. When did you get it? So you're like 21 getting out? Yeah, I got out, came on 22. 22. Yeah, I was always a magnet's straight-A student. Most people go and then end up just continuously going back and violated going back. And you didn't go back? I've been on 26 years. Yeah, we're older 99. I've been on. I've never been convicted

as an adult with a felony. I was a minor charge as an adult. I've got my record expunged and things of that. And it's like, I understand it. Looking back at it, that's why I tell the kids, you know, hey, go to the police academy, go to the military, go to trade school. There's nothing for you over there. My people is like they complain. They say, hey, man, these crooked cops, you know, these white KKK-style cops are doing this to us. Okay.

But then when a guy like me tells our youth to go to police academy, you tell them, you go to police academy you a buster well okay well how are we going to change it because if we don't put us who grew up around us in there so when they pull us over they're not nervous and jittery i get it a lot of cops as you know it bro you know probably got the lunch money took i tell people hey bro the white dudes i hung around with them middle linebackers them crazy-ass defensive ends you know those chets those brets right they cool as hell but It was some people in school that I could only imagine if this dude ever gets some power. Yeah. It's a problem. You know, in the world I live in, I'm colorblind. Like, you know, I get, I catch flat because, you know, I'm, um, uh, I tell him I'm American. Yeah. You know, and, you know, a lot of my people, my Hebrew Israelite brothers, you know, they into the, you know, the, the, the, the, the Israelite thing and the 12 tribes of Judah.

No, shout out to my brother, Captain Tussar. I talked to him for the understanding and the knowledge, but the way I see things, I see it totally different. I believe it's good, it's bad, and it's fair people from all walks. Yeah, of course. All right, guys, quick and rush for the podcast. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you guys have ever thought about getting some sort of outside perspective

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let's get back into this podcast do you think gang stuff is as popular as it I don't want to say popular but prevalent is it as prevalent as it was when you were young it's kind of died a little bit now it's down is down it's a good thing and I'm gonna continue to work on getting

it down because um you become a product of your environment you know growing up over there when you're in these different neighborhoods I swear I'm gonna tell you something

that's crazy I live right there in Bukwima the first time I got on the airplane I was 22 um the first time I went to the Topanga Mall

I was about 22 we didn't know how to get over here you get what I'm saying we didn't know how to you know what I'm saying so you're a hamster you're in this little box and the guys with the money

with the Mercedes or whatever and the jury and all this sold drugs or rob banks so what does that tell you in order for you to get ahead you have to sell drugs rob banks rob people

things of that nature right so with being able to get out and see the world and I understand why my mentality is I can be driving on the one-on-one freeway and say, damn, I mean, I don't need to get back to Amsterdam. You know what I'm saying? Because I've been there a dozen times.

I know what it is. Then, you know what? I want to go back to London. I need to, you know, I meant I miss Oslo, Norway. Right? Because I've been there. My mind has been, right? So I have a craving to get back to things.

And that's what led me to creating this diaper company because I was always over there for music. So when you're on a tour, you know, you move it. Certain places I make sure we stay London in Amsterdam, two, three, four days at a time. But 90% of the time I traveled, it was business of music. Shout out the game.

He's the first one to take me overseas. But I always was telling myself when you visit places like Versailles, you know what I'm saying? And you're looking at the history. A lot of us don't know where I come from. America is the baby of the countries. Yeah, brand new.

We're brand new. I mean, you get over there, brother, and you're walking around Versailles, palace, the mansion, and you're seeing, okay, when this king was here, this is what it looked like in the year 1,200. And then 1,300, when this king, they added this wing. So you're really like, damn, right, to see this and see what they built back then, you become curious and to see Big Ben and drop down into Moscow and then be able to sit down at the tables in Switzerland,

discussing business, and hear how they're discussing it, right? I developed a urge in the will to create something that gave me a reason to have to be over there because it's a lot of money, it's a lot of people, it's a lot of culture, it's a lot of things that I don't know. Let's be real, brother. if I told you right now bro Friday

Miami you want to roll yeah why sure cool what the hell that we're gonna really go do in Miami we ain't did a dozen times what we're gonna do we're gonna go to live we're gonna go to we're gonna go to 5th we're gonna go to 512 we're gonna go to get on the yacht

you know what I'm saying I mean our key places that's key out here we've done dozens of times but when you get over the water. Yeah, it's different. Just when you think you saw it all, it's more to see.

So do you think then, I think the gang stuff then is probably sort of dying out also because of social media because. Yeah, they watered it down. Well, I mean, I'm not saying because people do and shit on social media, but like what you just mentioned was like seeing the world for what it can really be outside of like your bubble because like the gang shit seemed like it probably existed more back in the day to like a higher degree because there was. less visibility of what's outside the bubble.

Less visibility, but not only that. The law. The law, you got to remember. I mean, let's talk about it. I haven't heard anybody mention this, so we're going to talk about it. The word gangster was adopted by the common street gangs.

That comes from the mob, the mafia. The dudes in the suit and ties that operated on another level of being organized, right? Okay. Rico was creating design for who? Them, the John Gotti's did.

Yeah. Right? Okay. How many of those organizations and we're not going to talk about Mexico within the United States operate, operate on that level if they are that's visible, how they were then.

You don't hear about such and such crime family anymore, right? Okay. So now the feds, however long it took them, went through all of that and shut all that down. Now you have feds, as I see, given the common street guy, we go charges. When at one time, that was something that was created for the upper echelon of crime. So they don't have nothing to do. Well, shit, we didn't shut down all. all the crime families, as we said, okay, the PMF guys and the few little dudes who had their

little drug ring going, right? We didn't shut them down. Now they're down here playing on the blocks of the ghetto, doing 20 and 30 and 50 people indictments in all the cities. So now people see, you get caught doing this, doing that, they'll give you 20, 30 years. and if you Google it, they're paying informants damn near 100,000 a year.

It's like, what's the eye? We're going to let you sell your dope. Do what you do. We're going to pay you $8,000 a month. You got to get out of jail free card because we know you've got to look and play the part, right? But going out there, right? And I think it started with the three strike law.

The three strike law softening the streets up. Because people, when a person would get five years, and go do 30 months and come home. Now, okay, the case carry five years, second strike, double up to 10. You've been to prison twice, two year and has been twice, 14, instead of 50%, 85%. So now when you'd have been out in two and a half years,

you do a 12 and a half, 13. It scares people, bro, like people are human beings. You could play tough, you can say you're this, you can say you're that. But when they come down to it, and you're facing the reality of doing the rest of your life or giving them something, 95% of the people I know have grown up with is going to find out where their auntie Mabel lives in Backwoods, Alabama, and they're going to give them something and relocate.

So that has softened the streets. Now, the so-called snitch, because of that, It are gangsters that have snitched, right? Yeah. What I call the killer rat. Let me tell you about the killer rat. The killer rat has been known as a killer in his neighborhood. People have feared this man.

20 years, they know what he does. And now he's 45 and not 25. And the 20 years in front of him, he doesn't want to do it. So you know what he does? He cooperates and he snitches. And they let him back on the street. But guess what? Ordinarily, the streets would do what to the rat?

Exterminate him, right? But what is he? He's a killer who is now a rat who will exterminate your ads. So now people are like, yeah, he did it, but I don't want to mess with him. So y'all you got half a dozen of him. And then you got the other ones like, well, I get the money, bro. Could I, if I tell, could I come mess with y'all? You know I got the plugs.

So now you got the group of people over here. That's the gangsters can get no money. They broke. They live in their home. They ain't got no car. They can't go to the clubs. They ain't got nothing going on. The killer rat and the hustler rats have come together.

And now they're getting, they're driving down the street and the Rose Royces and the Mercedes. So what does that do to the guy on the block who's still clean? When he gets in the situation, do you take the 20 or do you go join the club? And that was a rap for the streets. Troy Aff, back in 2015, said it. And even I thought he was crazy. The streets is a myth. The streets is a myth.

And you believe that now? That's the fact. I've been believing it. I've been pushing it. I haven't been a gangbanger for two and a half decades. I'm from where I'm from. You watch Carlito's way? Yeah, of course.

You remember Benning from the Bronx? Yeah. Carlito said what? The old me, I know what I would have done, and I know this going to come back and bite me one day. So as long as I'm still roaming this land in this country, I have to be conscientious of where I come from. I can't tell myself, well, whack, you're a businessman and you're this,

so you got to totally ignore and disregard you coming from that par root tribe. You know why? Because when I was a part of that, I did things. I did things to people to where they might not forget, to where their kids and nephews or whatever might not forget. You know what I'm saying? So I have to be conscientious of what I'm tied to. Now, when it comes time to the gang bang, I'm colorblind.

I do business with everybody. I don't care what color you got on. I don't care what words you use. Doesn't matter to me. In the world, they know that. They all tell you, man, do it to help you. He don't care that you're a Crip. He don't care that you this.

You call him as a man respectfully. He's going to talk to you and do what he can. So, you know, I tell the children today, there's no future over there. It's none. It's the great. yard or a hundred years way you know you it's nothing over it what i find so interesting how it's just like there's obviously a lot of reasons why the gang thing got so popular but music is something that made it like way bigger than it ever would have been i think yeah no depth listen game

respectfully and i'm not saying this in a way to where in a negative manner but the persona of the game, up from Cedar block, Paro. That's where you're from. Now, let me tell you something. I've been places overseas, okay, especially in the U.K. area. Bro, you get off the bus, these dudes got paro on their face, bopped in on their neck. Can't speak no English.

Actually, what's that place up top where they shot Braveheart? Right by, like Scotland, the top part. It's still the UK, but what's the name of? It's going to come to me. They ain't playing over there. They don't even speak English up there, but paw ruined blood on them. They'll whoop our ass behind the game, but we're on the bus with him. This is for real.

So it's one thing to see banging in Little Rock, Arkansas, or New York, or it's over here, or Alabama. It's another thing to get off the bus in. Italy, get off the bus in the UK, or Switzerland, a goddamn Ireland, and they gangbanging. But it's like, but are they, though? They just adopted that. Yes, they are physically hurting the people over there because they're from here and we from here. They gangbanging.

You call it what you want. You can say it's not California, it's not the USA, but them bullets and them knives and the violence that they're doing is no different from what was happening over here behind the name of a color yeah so it had a crazy influence the sad part about it is as california has slowed down drastically the other places that have been influenced are speeding up just getting started kind of yeah they operating like we did in the 80s i could have came over here right now with 50 people, 25 Crips, 25 bloods, and you would have never been able to tell the difference

because that's the atmosphere we're in today over here. We're not, you know what I'm saying? We're kind of preaching a lot of unity. The youngsters are still doing what they're doing. If it comes a day where people just wanna stop it, the OG still had to say so. But we allowed him to see us fratting eyes and hanging together and doing business together

right the right way to where they say, oh man, I thought he was in. Why do you think it's so glorified? well shit what else did we had a glorify at the time that was but but now like now why is it glorified well it's not other places glorify yeah we don't necessarily glorified over here but other places that have been influenced new york was influenced by two things a movie called colors which may have showed 10% of what it was and a book

written by Monster Cody from A. Trey Gangster. Now, let me tell you how funny this is. Monster Cody's a Crip, right? But the book influenced the start of the New York Bloods. And they start taking gang names out the book and adopted them and turning into that.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So, you know, and not, you know, to us, we know what it is. But to them, I don't know why. I ask them all the time. They get mad at me because I tell them, once I leave California, I no longer acknowledge or frattenize with any crips or bloods. If I happen to be doing business with you and you're that cool.

but we're not going to have those conversations because their way of doing things versus what it is, it just becomes into a conflict and an argument. You can't tell me that this is the way of doing it when you're doing something that's totally wrong. But guess what? I'm not even trying to teach you because me being who I am coming from the West Coast, if I was to sway you to doing it our way and you get caught doing some drastic things, and you say the big homie such and such has come out here and helped us

now they hit me with a Rico so I don't even I don't even I'm in the gang files over here it ain't no getting out of that I've been there since I've been a pup but in the gang files maybe 34 33 years I can't 32 what 36 I can't duck that but you'll never have me

frattingize organizing, contributing to anything that represents a street game anywhere else is not going to happen.

You know what I've seen all this stuff I don't know who's been getting caught up is this guy Big U's being caught up? Oh, he just got some more paperwork came out last night that's ugly.

It is so but this stuff is now all come out and it's like people get on podcast and say crazy shit that later apparently like is really affecting them well that i don't get that because that's not gangster at all that's the difference between back then and now um and this is what's crazy right right now you don't

you don't know my history right right right extensively wait hold on yeah and i can be and i tell people just because they say whack you let them come on no jumper with you and you let them say it Hey, listen, bro, I don't know this dude, and I'm going to be real. You don't know if a dude's making shit up, BSing. You don't know. The only thing I know to do as a co-host with my man Adam 22 is listen to your conversation and know how to take three minutes of what you're saying and create another three minutes of debate and then take another three minutes on that.

I know how to take a basic, simple conversation and build on it. Whether you're telling the truth or not, I don't know. But with the things you're saying, I got to kill two hours. I'm going to build on what you're saying. It's on that guy to know what to say, what not to say. I mean, Orlando Brown sits down all the time and says all kind of outlandish things, right, that we know is not true. But this is how it works.

it's all fun and games with him. But because you're saying some things that's on the wiretap and there's a victim over there who told us you did it and now you just confirmed it. It's different. I mean, bro,

Cloud is a new crack cocaine. It gives you a high that you don't want to come down off of. Now with me, I'm just me. I'm not a gimmick. So a lot of these people are gimmicks. I'm a guy that's knowledgeable about the things I'm knowledgeable of

who could carry a conversation, who has history, right, in the music industry, in the streets, various businesses, great personal relationships with a lot of our big names. So I can have a conversation about things. Some of these dudes come in here and they're like, yo, I'm going to say what it takes to get their attention.

Yeah. Who do you think are the biggest gimmicks? 607 Unc right now, Orlando. Another gimmick, he ain't going to like it. But I believe he's a gimmick. And y'all don't attack the brother for this. I believe Dr. Umar is a gimmick. Why?

And I'm not arguing it. First of all, your basics are what you stand on and represent. went back to this school that is never open. That is never what? Never open. Never open. This was a pan-African school, right? Second of all, every time something happens,

he somehow streamsline it to a black-white thing. Yeah. And I don't like that because it makes my people look like we're always looking for an excuse. No, he did what he did that, R. Kelly, this dude, that dude, they got federal charges because they wouldn't sell their catalog. No, he got federal charges because it was this and this and this going on, which has nothing to do with the catalog. He's going to say, but if they were to sold him the catalog, they wouldn't have brought the charges regardless of what you think. you have it wrong if he wouldn't have been doing that that and that whether he sold the catalog

or not it wouldn't have been no charges brought so we always and to me I think he's he's playing on the minds of those people who are caught up in that yeah in the in the like the race division shit if it's a football field in every 10 yards 10 yards it's a different ethnic group of baby in those 10 yards I'm going to tippy toe go like line the goal line the same way. I'm not going to get to a certain ethnic group of children and start running as if I don't care, right? And I tell a lot of these people, hey, look, bro,

this only thing I don't like. I tell my brother Captain Tazariot, he's a Hebrew-Isulite from the ISU-P-K, they're serious about it. The only problem I got with you, Cap, have you over here talk about the Israelite and the 12 tries of Judah? If you don't like it over here, take your ass to Israel.

Why are you over here complaining about what is not go to what you say you are, which I believe you're born here, your culture is here. I hear what you're reading, but everything about you reads black American. You know, I tell people I'm black American, yes, of African descent, and of Native American descent, right? My history, I'm going to start at one of the plantations. I'm not too concerned about what went on somewhere, you know, in Africa, right? Because my history, my great-grandparents and parents,

what they went through and how their struggles came from the plantation, right? And I started there, and I tell people, the progress that my people have made I can't be mad that I'm proud of and those people that think like-minded and walk in a room and see people Jewish, Italian, Latino,

whatever you want to see and understand that I came in here to speak business and not walking there on some Dr. Umar's stuff saying, oh, yeah, they're going to shut me down there against me because I'm black. Well, it's the thing. They knew you was black before they gave you the invitation. So if that's where they was at, they would have never invited you in here.

And one thing I do know about the people I deal with, hey, if it's doable, if it's movable, and it makes sense. Yeah. They're going to do the business. Yeah. Money's got no color. Yeah. It's just, it's just, it's real talk.

And I believe in building relationships. I believe in politics. You know, everything about me is built around that. I met you some time ago. Yeah. My wife was going back to Vegas. And I remember her asking me, I said, man, I misplaced a brother's number. I said, I really wanted to do his podcast, right?

So Adam, right, hit him. me hey good friend of mine such and such such yeah that's why when you said yeah i'm the guy i said yeah i remember you yeah right now this how the politics work right ordinarily it would have been how much is he paying you adam's on the text black that's my business partner yeah he said this is a good friend of mine see this how this works so you know what you never heard mention on the text of money when i got here i didn't sit in the car and send a guy in here and say he wants to know how much you're paying him, right? You know why?

Because the minute I walked through that door, and the minute you saw that, I hit this dude 10 o'clock last night, and he's here at 11 o'clock this next morning, on the Sunday, sitting here, never any mention of anything else. The next time I text you and say, hey, brother, do you deal with such and such?

Or, hey, I got somebody that's trying to do this. Can you sit down with him? You know what I know. you're going to extend back to me? Of course. And a lot of people, a lot of people don't understand that. The value, you know, in relationships. Yeah.

And this is how I'm able to survive. What a GED. What I don't know, I got people around me that know. And the people I don't know that I need to know, I'll create relationships so they can get to know me. Why do you think it's hard for people to break through the color barrier in certain situations? Like, why?

Like, is it, because to me, it feels like it's like, I don't know, you talked about the Umar thing and I think it's it's interesting. It bothers me, bro. Because it's almost like it's, it doesn't even seem like it doesn't seem like it comes from a place of wanting it to be better. It's always that.

Wanting to make it worse. There you go. Like it's kind of like you're trying to, you're trying to spark a flame. You know what I'm saying? Like it just, like can't we? Yeah, I don't. Can't we actually get along though?

Like, isn't that the point? But listen to me. I will tell you this. In these days, it's more of us than the doctor. Umar's you know everybody has to follow something this is why religion has reigns supreme since the beginning of the time you know um the game remember saying something years ago i was like man why did you say that he said bro 70% of the world is dumb as fuck they sheep the 30% that make the difference so you know you got to understand and respect that a lot of people go into situations using that as their leverage to control, manipulate, and gain.

Using what? The plan on that. You got a group of people over here, right? They need a reason or an excuse to justify their situation. Yeah. And they don't want to accept that their situation is what it is because of their lack of not doing certain things. Their choices. So then you get a guy like this says,

it's because the white guy or the Jewish guy are doing this, right? Yeah. And what they say? Yeah, that's right. This is not because I'm over here getting high. This is not because I don't know how to read right. This is not because I'm an alcoholic. This is not because I have a problem getting to work on.

on time, this is because they're oppressing me and they roll with it. Yeah. It's sad is what it is. It's the world we live in. I mean, we could strive for perfection, but me and you both know. Like, we'll, we'll never see what that looks like or know what that looks like on the overall. So now you have to isolate yourself and your world and your mountain.

I have a mountain. See, I have this mountain, and I tell people this. Stop coming down a mountain. They can't get up, right? You could look over there, okay, that's my buddy's mound. Okay, that's Floyd Mayweather's mountain. That's Nick Cannon's Mountain. You know, that's my other brother's mountain.

And guess what? You know, we got planes and helicopters, and we got birds and we can send a message to right when we want to come. communicate everybody down there is trying to get up there and when you just don't give it to them then they want to pull you back down there right and this is just the world we live in you know try to perfect your perfect and close out how it is i mean you know we're going to die learning and we're going to die trying you know that yeah yeah i just i just feel like people are so focused on

what the internet makes it worse on what other people either have based on what they don't have so it's like yeah it's easier to be the victim in the thing well me and you both know the dangerous part about the internet is a nobody can become somebody

if the right person bites on the wrong troll if I go on there and this dude I You know, I get a million of them a day, right? They'll put my name and the headling. They'll just make up stuff. I've seen stuff where this is the most craziest one.

50 cent disrespects Wack 100. So you press play, right? Have a bunch of different 50 cent interviews to where he's talking, but they got it muted. And then the dude will be running something. Yeah, on this thing, Wack 100 does this. And then 50 cent, he'll be. saying what 50 cents said but never said but he's in the back so the perception is as if he said

it right but then it's it's little mike mike mike's channel mike mike tv right so if i go and respond and say hey mike mike tv screw you and you this and your mama this and your mama that they're like who is mike mike now my fan base who follows me who is my now the wrong troll i responded to the wrong troll. So now this guy that is nobody overnight becomes somebody because he created a lie

a man ticked me off and I responded to it. You don't have to do no hard work. You don't have to really be an athlete. You don't have to be a successful entrepreneur a rapper, a musician to get that

YouTube because a lot of people don't realize the YouTube streets are the YouTube streets. They are equivalent to the ghetto streets, right? You said to be good at editing. Just because you're in the YouTube streets, they think the world knows who they are. They really believe this, bro.

Yeah. It's crazy. It goes to a day. I had a dude the other day that I helped get a little attention say, I got power. who one of the little dudes i helped okay okay i taxed him on the way up um that's how you know if i mess with you i don't charge you i mess with you if i charge you you just a pond on the board you know i'm a sacrifice you one day that's just how it works but people really think

that this gives some power and some say-so in a voice it's crazy brother you got a great i know I'm at right now. I know the value of this over here. Yeah. And this was here before you took this room and created this. This is just something else you started doing. So who you are and what you came from

was prior to this. Yeah. And I tell people that if your start is here, then stop talking to people who already were who they were. And because of who they are, people want them to sit here. It's a difference. But

it's watered it down the perception of it is crazy you could be who you want to be um and it's and it's it's a brainwashing some of us can handle this some of us can't is it money in it yes um how do you get it is different ways

you got our brother Vlad who's one of the you know kings of this stuff you know who pioneered this he he runs a subscription-based thing. You know what I'm saying? You know, Adam does his a little different. Academic sits there eight hours a night

and he got five different platforms going on off his ones. He's good, he's good. Right? And he's doing that way, right? So Joe Button, everybody's doing a, you know, doing what they're doing, how they doing it. And all of these guys are a door for me. They're a resource for me.

as I am for them. Right. And I'd rather put the time and attention to build those relationships than hanging in the park with the homies. Yeah. I mean, that's how you got it. Yeah, I know what that's going to get me.

Hey, your ass is going to get shot. You're going to go to jail. You know, it ain't going to. There's nothing good going to come from it. Yeah. All right, guys, quick in a bunch for the podcast, Monarch Money. You guys are tired of being like,

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Again, that's monarchmoney.com code raw talk right now. let's get in this podcast you get what i'm saying did you ever have beef of 50 no never no never matter of fact my my guy uh uncle murder over there's been one in the last five six years we're very close um his dj dj roby robb through my brother k slate rest in peace we're very close and um tony yay yo me and tony yay yo didn't ran across each other two three times always been respectful but i kind of catch it because of the game back there with me and when game was going through that with 50 i wasn't nowhere around oh i see but when me and game started running together doing business together everybody know i'm going to take the side

with the game but even with that even the game himself he's been out of point in his life as a father to where whatever happened happened bygones or bygones game is like a sleeping giant big old dude six five very capable but kind hearted big heart and unless you go over there kicking the bear you don't got to worry about it yeah you saw stuff recently with conier where he gave him the may box and was like you know what the fuck take these back yeah because Kanye got mad about him um him uh being cordial with somebody on there but that's yeah you know that's my guy to me and yay very close we've done a lot we went to see elin must together down there for a day so um down in brownsville tex um SpaceX but you know yay's one of those guys that he's

overgen he's over generous and in his mind he expects the same in return yeah so his enemies are your enemies yeah and if they're not your enemy me, don't show no signs that they're your friends. That's just yay though. Yeah. That's I told academics. He called me and I said bro, you ain't rocking with you. Like, keep it

right. And he said, hey, bro, I got a certain call from a certain individual who wants me to interview him. I said, nah, brother, don't do that. If you do that, it's going to be no more yay. I think right now Who was it? I think right now,

I was trying to know who the individual is. It was Jim Joe's. Okay. I think right now, I said, Jimmy has a lot of platforms he can go to. And I see he ended up on Angela Yee and telling his story. I said, right now, you never know what could come from you being that close to Ye. Yeah, he's a dude that you'll look up and get a $10 million contract because you're there with him. Yeah.

straight up like I've seen it you know what I'm saying like hey you know what give that to my guy yeah how that right and then me and you I'll bring you in on my thing and you be like damn where does this come from yeah you know what I'm saying so I told him sometimes you got to be selfish in this game who do you think because that's a lot of power who do you think has the most power in the industry right now artist wise artist wise Um Jay Z artist wise

I got to still even though he's more than just an artist he's in the artist lane I would say Jay Z I'm going to tell you why everything he can do that he doesn't necessarily do

like albums touring his own personal brand deals everything he can go do the drop of a hat to generate millions of millions of dollars that he doesn't have to do he's in position

to control the platforms that other people do them all yeah that's fucking now you have to um factor in his enhancements his wife

Yeah Just be real Yeah Now you know She's a part of him And he's a part of her Right So you got to look at

That resource Whatever that may be Right He benefits from that And she benefits from him So right now When it comes to that I would say Jay-Z

Who's the most who's our brave heart who's our is yay because you watched it he made that first move tore him down everything detached

90% of the people like yay's done we look up a year 18 months later he comes back evaluated at even more than wire, but now in control and has put a wall up to where Yeezy and his catalog

is what's driving the value, and he's 100% in control of, and nobody can detach to bring him down right now. I hate to say it, that's my brother, and I hope, I hope it doesn't happen, but it's only one thing they could do to stop he ain't right now what do you think it is obviously himself no because himself has stopped himself and it still didn't stop him it's true it's only one thing they could do to stop him and if they do it they'd make him a martyr oh yeah it's not listen it's nothing else whenever the whenever he does what people consider crazy things his fans go stream more yeah they go buy more yeah

he's in total control when it comes to that he said you know what and i didn't understand it you know it's crazy because my guy when me and yay was running around together daily he said hey tell yay we got 30 million for him to go do a short run for us you know maybe seven to ten dates and we'll cover all this production costs and travel i'm excited you know i'm excited shi dirt man well i get five percent of that i'm all right right yay bro they got gay tells me all right whack tell your guy how much does it cost for me to buy his company and then i'll tour for me or buy into his company so i can work for the me. Either way it goes.

Yay, he's not working for nobody, but yay. And I'm looking at him like, Jay, I know you got some money, but I mean, 30 million is 30 million. I mean, damn, we get it done in eight days, 10 days. I'm looking at it. But seeing what he went through. Makes sense.

Makes sense because what if he was in the middle of a tour and he said something? Now, the company says, well, out of respects of such and such, we're going to pull the rest of this. So he eliminated all that and he's the only one I know

in this game that's renegade the way he is, survived the hit and still in control of the way he is. And when you look at it, bro, they both come from the same cap. That's the Rockefeller cap. Yeah.

Yeah, he's fucking, it seems like he got completely tore down at one point to like come back. Who's the most successful independent label of all time? I'm a role with cash money. Who is the current independent label that's on the rise? Then I'm going to roll with QC and Top Dog Entertainment.

Right. And all those guys, I just acknowledge once again, And as I tell you, when I tell you, I have mentors and partners and con raves, all those guys are just a call away from every last one of them. Do you think this stuff, because there's a lot of stuff said about, like, that whole Drake Kendrick Beef is like the bodying and all the shit that goes on behind the scenes and like the sort of cheating of numbers and you see all that stuff? Yeah, I've seen it, right?

Yeah. And, you know, I understand the music industry, right? So let's, let's understand it. Management and label, it's the artist's job to produce the product. Right. Nobody could do what the artist does. It's his voice, is his likeness, is, you know, he produces that. He picks the beads.

He writes, he does. He rhymes the way he rhymes to turn it in, right? once the artist does that he's back in the corner right because at that point in time it's on management in the label to now set up

the marketing and the promo of the product that's turned in this is a rollout the artist is in summons again until this time video post this we need you to go on radio

We need you to go sit with a podcast, right? Or it's time to get on stage, right? So now you have a situation where you have the artist being penalized for what management in the building chose to do. Whatever that may be. Now, you didn't kick open up a cat and worms, so don't get nervous on that. We're going to go there. No, I'm ready. We're about to go there.

Yeah. Okay. I'm going to sound like a Drake glazer in a second. So now you have a Drake. We all have a Drake in our family. And shout out to Drake. I fuck with Drake. Ain't nobody on the West Coast saying we want a do-done to Drake.

Drake is still Drake. Overall, I feel overall, I still think Drake's the top streamer. All of that. Right? But Drake, you know that little cousin or that brother who they never lost the game and they always came in first in a hundred-yard jazz? And then one day he just had a bad day or he met that guy. We all got a guy in the neighborhood who could kick everybody's butt, right?

And then you had a guy who couldn't really kick everybody's butt. but for some reason, the guy that could kick everybody's butt could kick his one guy's butt that could kick everybody's butt, right? It's his nemesis, right? Drake takes an L in the battle, in the rap battle, okay? Because overall, when you look at the numbers, they're still going to spell out Drake. Yeah.

He takes an L in the overall rap battle, okay? Drake doesn't do like Mike Tyson did, with Buster Douglas. He took it on the chin, man, I was getting high and I was training and got my ass with. Drake

starts to blame the label. You and Kendrick are under the same label. Different Indies. UMG. Right? Yeah. You guys did this.

You guys did that. Let me tell you something, bro. They did that for both of them. let's just hypothetically speaking Drake Kendrick when lose a draw we win anyway as UMG's thinking

of course okay program them for the first 10 million let's just say this how this win both of them all right fight they both guaranteed to do 10 million

because of let's say programming allegedly you're talking about programming like the bots and stuff whatever you want to call it yeah okay as Drake is making claim

so Kendrick and Drake both 10 million right now this is where Drake becomes a little peon when it got to the 10 million that both you guys were guaranteed because you're both under the same

umbrella Kendrick's 10 gets to 13 Drake gets to 11 His 13 got to 17 Drake gets to 12 Now everything after that 10 million

Are the people speaking See I say that to say this Drake For the very same thing They used to make you Who you are today You turn around And became a whistleblower

Because it didn't go your way Now let me ask you a question Go ahead. Kendrick just broke a record. $9, over $9 million generated. Single show. One show. Yeah.

Was those bots or those asses in seats? I don't know the answer to that. Oh, you know the answer to that. There are probably people. Okay. Yeah. So what I'm saying is... I could be cynical and be like,

they bought the seats, you know, And that's the internet. What I'm saying is, like, brother, it's like two quarterbacks who both got bad knees and y'all both got quarter zone shots. And this quarterback came out and threw for 500 yards and eight touchdowns. And the other quarterback came out and had 100 yards, five interceptions. And he says, yeah, but they gave him a quarter zone shot. You have one too.

Okay, okay. You get what I'm saying, bro? My thing, and when I look at it from the outside, though, is would Kendrick be as popular as he is right now without shitting on Drake? Okay. And the reason why I said that is because... Wait, wait, what do you mean shitting on Drake? So you don't do that. The beef.

Don't do that. Because it didn't start. It wasn't like Drake came out of nowhere and was like, fuck you. The first time it started was from Kendrick. We know this. Listen, did he say his name? Or did he say, ain't no big three. It's just a big me.

It started before that. No, no, no, no. And he did say his day. We're talking about this one. No, but this one is that one. It's the same thing. No, no, no, no. Because, you know, I call Flack.

Remember, we shot 100 game featuring Drake. We brought him to Compton. Top Dog is my family. I love that song. I love that song. Top dog is my family. Kendrick's my family. The whole TD, TV, everybody over there, right?

Two T's everybody. But even at that time, I didn't know. it was a problem. So I say that to say this. You know how we can say it was a problem with gaming 50. Bro, only the hip hop heads knew about the little intricate BS

that was being said. It was like a hip hop thing. It was a, you know what I'm saying? I see what you're saying. Right? Because I was like, when they call them, I'm like, yo, bro, I'm like, man, I didn't even know

because I'm not keeping up with the little conscious rap little jabs right if you ain't saying hey this this or this i don't know about it right i'm saying you don't think that bro is doing some crying bro come on bro come no i know i know but come on look but can you answer this though do you think kendrick could be as pot as he is right now without shitting on drake because for me the reason why i asked that is after the fact he didn't start it he baited him I will say he baiting. Okay.

And I'm... Hold on. The reason why I say it is because after the fact, there's still so much promo like the fuck Drake, but like, but now listen to Kendrick kind of shit. No, hold on. It's a lot of that. Hold on. The people are speaking.

You show me in the last six, seven months, eight months, outside of the Super Bowl performance where Kendrick was still talking about Drake he came and dropped a album 12 songs that he put underground artists from L.A. on it, underground artists and outran Drake's him in parties 12 songs, 12 songs to stream. Follow me.

Yeah. Outstream, there are 22 songs of two. See, the more songs you got on there, the more action you got at streams. Right. So do I think he baited Drake? I think he baited Drake, Jay Cole, and Future. Or whoever else considered themselves the big three.

Whoever, whoever, and see, that's from West Coast. type of stuff because we taught over here to beat our chest against all odds see that song even though that Tupac is from New York right against all eyes that mind frame came from him running around with that West Coast team right against y'all odds going there and do what you got to do

he said ain't no big three it's the big me Jay Cole did what what Jay Cole do yeah he talked some shit then jumped out Drake chose Yeah Because I know why he chose I'm beating my chest I'm the king

Why he think he the king I remember When Kendrick Lamar Was in a little sprinter Following Drake's tour buses around On Drake's tour Yeah I remember

I think I went to the show In Fresno I stopped through And caught up with him And went in there But So in his mind this is one of my students

one of my kids let me go spank him real quick he thought this was going to be in and out and he probably wouldn't there a little too cocky a little too arrogant underestimating it and stepped in that ring and Kendrick started dropping them

them peas on him man and he couldn't handle it I just found it interesting they just went towards the whole the whole the whole pit of pedified thing is like, that was so... Kendrick never called him a pedophile.

I'm waiting. I love these debates. He didn't? Tread lightly now. Wait, he didn't? Never. Like word for word, are you saying? You tell me where Kendrick called him a pedophile.

Did Kendrick call him a pedophile or did the people call him a pedophile? Wait, am I missing something here? Hey, we talking. Is this not like in the song? Hey, listen, y'all's over there behind the board. Feel free to help him out. Now, tell him, Treadlight, where did he call him a pedophile? I thought in that song, he said that shit.

I don't want you to think a thought. Not, I want you to know. Pull up this fucking song. I want you to know. All right, pull up this fucking song, dude. I want to know where he called up a pedophile. Where did he call him a pedophile? No, no, no.

Now, remember, this is Kendrick Lamar. He is very crafty. He's very lyrical. He's very strategic. I want to know where he called. You want to just put up the lyrics? You can just pull the lyrics up Okay

Yeah, find out where he called him a pedophile Was, isn't there a bar about Now remember what we called Certified pedophiles, right there Listen, certified lover boys Certified pedophiles He called, wait, who? Certified pedophiles

Certified lover boy That's what he calls Question Mark, see that question mark As in who's he Certified lover boy is, that's worth insinuating that's Drake What is what? That's Drake.

He made a song called Certified Loverboy. I just warned you. I know, but listen. I warned you that he is very, look. It's not even crafty. This is just not crafty. When we started this right, I said he baited him because even when he said ain't no big three is the big me, he never said Drake, right?

Now let's go over. Certified Loverboy. Question mark. And now Certified Lover Boy would be the album title of one of Drake's albums, yes? It could be. It is. What else could it be? No, it's, it's literally that though.

Did he say Drake's? Well, we know what he's saying, though. No, no, you're assiduate. No, you're actually stupid. No, no, I'm not. You totally are. I swear to God, bro. This is what makes Kendrick so great.

No, he's saying. Because of these conversations. Listen, certified lover boy. Certified pedophile. Right. Now, there's a gentleman around Drake who had had have these charges if you could if you keep reading it you're gonna see right that he's you know a minor that's that's a note right yeah but like you're you're like avoiding the no i'm not it's a

note right this what makes him so great okay but let me ask you a question you think you think everyone listen that song go oh he's not talking about drake in this beef director everyone i mean the new defense everyone okay so now and then we talk about that his how is that not his house is that not his And that's not like a map thing showing like where pedophile things are. That's a thing. But guess what? He's saying people around him because it's a dude or the Baca, whatever's dude who had had a charge, right? Right.

Now, listen, this is no different. The insinuations, because it's crazy. You guys only cry about these because he lost. What's the difference between these insinuations and Drake's insinuations that Kendrick beats his wife that his best friend slash manager had sex with his wife that the child she has is the man what's the difference kendrick didn't cry one time you know what he did he fired back true if drake's song would a did to kendrick what kendrick's song did to him nobody will be saying but no i hear what you're saying i think because this this angle at the time specifically too bro it's

word play do i know where he's coming from that's what makes it oh oh did you hear i know but and at this time it was like the worst possible thing why well it's it's in my opinion it's one of the worst possible things you can call anyone like anyone could be accused of that's the he didn't never call him that it's the worst possible thing you can insinuate about anyone and make people believe being a pedophile is the worst. I'm not saying they're like... You don't think you don't think telling them, telling a man, his wife's having sex with his best

friend, manager and the child. This, Kendrick's, listen, there is no documentation to show that Drake has ever been a pedophile. There is documentation to show that Drake may have had some distasteful potential pedophile ways. Do you agree?

because of the song stuff that he said about No, I'm just asking, do you agree? I don't know. I come from the Hunter's side of the Detroit's the clubhouse. You tell me. You know what I'm saying? Show me the documentation. Do you agree?

I don't know if there's documentation. That Drake may have that there's some documentation that may be a little distasteful and that could lean towards, you know, some things he may not have said of done with a minor. I have no idea. I don't know where this documentation is. Oh, so you're playing.

Can you pull it up? Ask your guy. He knows what I'm talking about. Can we go to Colorado? Can we go to his concert? Just put Drake concert minor on stage. Okay. I want you to watch this.

Now, I'm telling you, my brother. So you're saying he did it to himself. I'm lining you up right now. You said he did it to himself. You might change your thoughts on him. There you go. Can you let him hear it? Okay, play it.

Yeah. No, but I'm watching. There he go. Don't pull it on Napoleon stuff on me. Oh, no, that's what I... The Captain Tazar, y'all, y'all go come out on me then. No, I would have said you got to get off the stage. No.

Listen, how old are you? Watch. Watch what he says. Watch. Watch this. 17, why do you look like this? What we're talking about, bro? What year was this?

What year was this? Drake was about 23, 24, baby. But what I'm telling you is when you battle rapping, right, you have a team. Yeah, they found all this. Yeah. See, I understand what's going on, right? This is why I sell block one in A minor, even though he flipped it like it could have been a note. Yeah.

You know why it got to Drake? Because it was some truth in it. If I came in there right now and say, fool, you think we don't know about you, all you mess with is old ladies. Everybody you deal with is in the 70s. You can't even get a young hot chick. Are you going to care about that?

Yeah, I see what you're saying. You know why you're not going to care about it? It's not true. Yeah. So I'm going to sit back and I want to, I want to. Listen, Adam didn't tell you who he was sent? No, no, no. You didn't do your homework on me?

you do know I represent the hunter's side right you do understand i get you i get you i've never seen that clip i ain't a lie to you you cannot come into this cage with me and you listen listen all i was saying was that i didn't know about this clip fair all i was saying was at the time when this beef went down it was just the worst possible thing you could ever be called because of like that was also the time in the internet it was like everyone's catching pedophiles and it was just a brother brother right now don't trump i'm a trump supporter do i agree with everything no but do i understand its angles yes trump is issuing tears he's doing all kinds of stuff right yeah now trump is doing this because he has already did his homework on what he wants to do

Kendrick knew that when he said these things, when he made certain insinuations, it was going to come down to questioning his credibility on what he's saying. Although it was battle rap, anything goes. It's even stronger if you can show something that supports what you're saying. Right.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So what happens is people jump out there like you did, right? Like you did. And defense of now. as I put something in front of you about Mr. Drake can you find something

that Drake said about Mr. Kendrick and put it in front of me? I think there's some articles about this whole like this hitting your girl shit, no? I don't know. You don't know, but you knew about this one. I mean, I know about this one.

I don't know. Hey, brother, I'm going to be real. Seven out of ten of my friends, I know, got the same shit we didn't got mad kicked the door down broke a window on the way out she get pissed off

she mad because we didn't told her we go in the rosy house screw you let's be real bro now if you pull up I'm gonna be real you pull up some pictures like some of these people

you know like the home girl Gigi she's been exposing this one dude and she shows the pictures with the black eyes and all this crazy now we could say that's what it is right

But what I'm saying is it's a rap battle rap beef. I think Kendrick's team dug a little deeper, did more research than Drake's team. But then I've been knowing Kendrix since he's been a youngster, it ain't too much you're going to find on him. He's a very simple dude. He grew up in what we call the mecca of Compton, the west side. right um he wasn't a kid

or a young man that tried the gang bang he was a guy that the gang bang was like hey gets your low ass in the house they're saying for you so it ain't like people could say oh you was a mark use a punk use a reject right he's not caught up in a designer he's very simple he's still with this high school

sweetheart he don't drink he don't get high like he's kind of like he's a damn you know what I'm saying so it's hard to fight that now I'm gonna say this on your show today

and one day this episode gonna go through the roof it's gonna do that anyway not like us is gonna really become a reality when the powers to be start fighting back when the powers

it be, put Drake in that Bill Cosby seat, put Drake in that Puff Daddy seat, put Drake in that R. Kelly seat. Do you think that's going to happen? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what's going to happen. Let me ask you something, brother.

Have you ever looked up and saw one of your people get in trouble for something that all you guys did because it was the norm you're like oh shit they really you really got in trouble for that we all do that I didn't look at it that way yeah I see you're saying okay in this industry

when it comes to women you tell me a artist who's not on top of the world on the urban side and hasn't flew a chick in tell me the artist that haven't gotten to DMs and say, you want to come to Miami?

Not one. And she came down there and she hung out and he screwed her and she did everything and it was consensual and then he sent her back. See, the Man Act of 1910 is what they hitting

Mr. Puffywick is called sex trafficking. Because of flying state lines. Yeah, it's weird. No. It ain't even got to be state lines. if I send a black car Uber to Studio City to meet me over here

and I take her to that boulevard to the hotel and sent her back in that black car they call it sex trafficking so when I'm telling you is this when you're dancing with that two-headed dragon you can take your shirt shots but me and you both know what do we fear the most that that dragon's going to do eventually

when they open their mouth breathe the fire but that's do you really think that they're not going to strike back do you really think that they don't have internal teams that people don't see that know what they know? Do you really think it's not a group of women out there who thought that they were in and they never got a call back? No, of course.

Oh, okay. So you're insinuating. I'm not insinuating nothing. Or you're saying straight up. This is facts. Listen. So you believe that at some point throughout this whole lawsuit that Drake's has with UMG currently that at some point they're going to come out and be like, well, look at this. No. They're not going to come out and say nothing.

it's going to come out and you think it's going to be an underage thing or it's just going to be a I don't listen and I will say this because like in all those situations do I think Drake will willingly deal with somebody underage no

do I think that it could potentially happen because somebody has a fake idea or something yes right we're not talking under age do I think Drake's a or Lester Pedophile, no. Yeah.

Again, not a Drake hater. I love Drake. Yeah. I know Drake. It's always been cool with me. But I understand the game he's playing who I blame him partially. And I blame them people around him who's scared to lose their job. I don't give a damn if you fire me.

As long as I did something to get it through your head of what you're not, supposed to do I did my job yeah you get what I'm saying the secret service when they're moving with that president of the United States they are trained to long as he got back this you took a bullet to keep the president safe that's you doing your job right president get hit you didn't do your job right so what I'm saying is somebody's supposed to tell him like bro let me talk to you look at what's going on. As soon as you start to violate your handler, shit's been happening to the greats.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah. But didn't you say earlier about like, it's, how real is it then? If it's like... What you mean how real? I mean,

but it gets, isn't it then, isn't it contrived? Isn't it forced? Like the actual, the lawsuits, right? Because you're telling me right now, you think that there's going to be a legit lawsuit against Drake from a different direction. Lawsuit.

Criminal accusation. I hope all it is is a lawsuit because a lawsuit means he's spending a little money. He's going to lose his status because when these type of accusations come at you, we all know how it goes. Companies is dealing with you, they back up just what it is. It's the politics of that situation. so it comes I hope it's just civil but brother

you ain't fend to kick the dragon in the ass and don't think eventually they ain't gonna breathe no fire yeah and you're saying the dragon is the the labels the owners the no I'm saying

see if you take UMG you're thinking music right yeah the label. Now, I want the Caucasian part of you to really kick in. I put UMG

in front of you. Yeah. I love at you. Go ahead. Because you've got to remember a lot of my knowledge comes from my Middle East partners, my Jewish partners, my Caucasian partners. The things I know I didn't learn at the dinner table when I was on

Desmond Street in McCormwood, California. We put UMG in front of you. And I tell you, you know, you what does that represent the first thing you're going to do when the carcassian side of you kick in and say who are the owners of UMG right right and then once you see the owners of UMG then you say well who are they partners with right up Ferrari Pepsi uh Hilton right and then you say well who are they tied to? brother, UMG, if you break it down, probably

it's tied to a hundred trillion dollar businesses. Right. So when UMG gets hurt, they all get hurt in a way. Yeah. And they're not having that. There go. Yeah. Godfather.

It's going to. How did he break? You think that, like, that's coming. Well, now, I want the Caucasian part of you to kick in again. Because you got to remember, brother, I didn't learn this for my tribe. You know what we do. You do something else. We just want to go do something to you in the open very loud.

Yeah. Right? How do they operate? Yeah, that's exactly how they operate. You understand what I'm saying? Remember when we started this interview, I said it's the side of me that I've learned and inherited for my friends that make me different from the rest. I understand it. Yeah.

I understand politics. You understand politics, right? Of course. Politics and right and wrong, two different things. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking true.

Your guy over there could be flipping me off behind that screen, right? And I can see him. And as men, he's dead wrong, right? right yeah that's your guy right yeah so if i jumped up to kick his ass what did the politics say you got to do i'm stopping you but he's wrong yeah yeah you see what i'm saying i'm saying yeah still my guy politics of a situation yeah i make a right situation wrong or a wrong situation right depend on the politics of the situation and the politics of him attacking And UMG, as he sees it, UMG says you're attacking 30, 40 other entities that stretch

God knows where. When the last time you see somebody attack UMG with this type of, let's get away from the word money, they don't give a fuck about the money. They got it. Yeah, got it. Scrutiny and embarrassment. Never. I haven't.

Do you really think they're going to leave that door open or you're going to make an example? I mean, this is just a crime of street guy talking to you. Listen, I don't want you to, I hope I didn't get, did I get the carcades side of you going? No, just realistically, yeah. It's not a, there's no question about what would happen. Yeah. Brother. Now, they got patience.

They're not like the hood where they, they, they, you ain't, it's just going to start happening. Yeah. I see what you're saying. Slow build. By the time we've seen Puff situation, I told people when he filed

the lawsuit against the liquor company, I said he just made the biggest mistake of his life. Fuck. You're not wrong. Yeah, you're not wrong. So this is why Wack 100

the character moves the way he moves. See, Wack 100 is an entertainer's name created by one and only DJK Slate, probably 2010. Wack was the street guy. Yeah. Cash Jones is the brain, the strategist. Wack protects Cass Jones and Wack 100.

Wack 100 is a mixture of both. Depending on what type of conversation you want to have is how he's, got to entertain you right it's damn it was suck man that would be fucking remember yeah it happened right here on your show yeah you're gonna go back and you're gonna be like yo this dude told us i'll call you i'll call you bro it's inevitable yeah they cannot not not react the way they want to react Yeah, I see.

I see. Have you ever been in situations not like this as far as like... Where politics said you could, but you better not? Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, I had a few of them.

When did you meet Adam? Changing gears a little bit. Maybe. I met Adam, maybe 20... 18, late 17, 18. I started division of cash money. And we were calling it Cash Money West. And I was looking to sign new artists.

And manage them out here, so on and so forth. And back then, Adam was doing like the SoundCloud rapper thing. And he had the little shows he would do, the little mini concerts he would do. So quite national. you know me being on my management stuff you know back then it was savvy third it was blue face yeah those type of dudes I had um I was trying to get a hold of it Adam went fucking with me a couple years but I understood what I was looking at and I understood that

today I'm reaching for him because he's he's a need for the building of a new artist yeah i didn't get mad i didn't say screw him i'm gonna do something to you i was patient it took maybe two years i had him to say all right come up and even then i um he put blueface on the showcase and um he allowed me to come up with a blueface to do interview um and even after that he shied away from me because i think people started telling him yo you know who that dude is you know this so i still catch a lot of flack from like eighth party people don't know me because if you're telling the guy in 2018 2019 you know who this dude is and at that time i'd been out of prison 20 years ain't gang bang they didn't none of that all i did was

truck driving real estate party promotions right for you to say who you do you know you don't know who I am. You going off a myth or was somebody didn't told you who they didn't told him. It's crazy. I hear stories about myself today. I don't even know exists. It's like they just it was like his group of 10 kindergarten. You start here by the time

and get over here, it's told different stories. So I believe Adam was a little standoffice, but what helped was Compton A.D. when he brought Compton A.D. That was nephew. I have a strong relationship with him.

and even in times where I kind of got mad I felt irritated the politics that AD was there meant that I could only go so far anyway I just had to wait and I waited and waited and waited and eventually you know he like gave me a call was that that was kind of like sort of an end of an era though for no jumper like when when the people started leaving no now I'm glad you said that

yeah most people that come from where I come from or most people with the normal temperament would have looked and said oh everybody left no jumper they're about to fall and then he's calling me

because he knows that I can bring it back as an element of me with him that could probably patch up the boat and get it back sailing because of the denial over the years, what would most people I've done when they got the call? Probably said, fuck you.

But I'm not most people. Yeah. You know what I did? All right, brother, let's negotiate. And my negotiations was fair. Let's cut it down the middle and let's rock. We 90s, damn there, 92 shows later. But didn't he just recently announced a bankruptcy thing?

No. He said, no jumper is going broke. Yeah. people should learn from this announcement no jumpers going broke we lost our original no jumper page where we used to make a ton of money off that

that paid some of the bills for people paying for posts the streaming has been down so on and so forth what else did he announce but we're going to start a subscription-based side of No Jumper.

For those fans that want to see us around, go hit on subscribe. It'll help us stay afloat. What he says, right? Within 48 hours, after six months of the No Jumper main page being gone, what happened? I think the page is back.

We must have a fan at Instagram. Yeah. Out of nowhere, it popped back up. Can I get that contact? Because I need to get a page on. That's like, yo. Brother, we did all of that. We contacted every,

because the Wack 100 page and the No Jumper page went down around the same time. And my goddamn, my shit was crazy. My half a million followers would react like five million. Anything I put it was crazy

that we both lost at the same time. So we both filed, file, file, and we didn't get no motion. We were like, damn, this must be something going on. But when he made that a night, Within 24 hours, we must have a fan at Instagram that says, I don't want to see no jumper go down. Bam, we got that.

Hey, if this will help y'all out, the gift. The subscribers shot through the roof. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So, and I got a few tricks up my sleeve that I got to sit down and talk to my brother, because I now see him as a brother. We have grown drastically. What was this thing about his wife?

on plug talk was that a thing your wife my wife and his wife um well like what the fuck was that um adam and his wife um they do plug talk you know they situation yeah very yeah you know they they interview the women and then they go back and they do

their uh plug talk thing on the right so I understand plug talk is a total different crowd than the urban side of no jumper. Yeah. My wife, the lovely R and B,

our follower R underscore A and N underscore B. She has a hairline, R and beauty over there. She just kicked off. And we have a reality show we're putting together to kind of feel that Kevin Samuel's void called Ego, right? So at this point in time,

while she's creating her deck, the manager and B came out and you know I love my woman so as a man I don't mind taking the sacrifice here or there so nobody knew what was going on Adam walked in she was sitting down he said hey R&B because this is about the time she had put the tattoo of me on her back right so he's like I think it's fake I need to see his tattoo, stand up. So when she stands up, I'm on another side. But you know, the management side of me kicks in. He goes to hug her, so you know what I do? Snap. Pitcher. They don't know what I'm doing. I go to the kitchen. I put water on my face. I start crying, and I say Remo and sent me a video. No. Showing me that R&B, we've been fighting.

got a little pissed off at me, and went up to no jumper behind my back into the plug talk session. So Adam's wife gets there. I said, I need you to take her to the back plug talk room. Now it's a little, it's a joke in the video. Right.

Because they're walking back there and she's showing them everything and Adam comes in there like, let's get started. And Adam wife looks at the camera and says, whack, why are you holding your phone like that? Nobody caught it. So I went and I put me up crying. I put the slide up of them hugging.

And I put the video of them up in the plug talk. And her following went from 28,000 to 50 and 48 hours. So you wouldn't let Adam fuck your wife, though. No, not at all. Fuck that. Crazy. Okay. It never happened.

I had to ask that. But guess what? I apologize. Well, you think the followers came from? Think it came from the urban side of no jumper or lenocide. Probably lenocide. That's definitely where it came from. But Adam is obsessed with my wife.

He's obsessed with you, too. Didn't he say some gay stuff? That's Adam. You know what? And I think this is why our dynamics are crazy because Wack 100 is who? The entertainment, right? But people see him as the gangster, right?

It's not supposed to let the white boy Adam say gay shit. I suppose to whip his ass, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so what do I do? Brother, I'm in the pilot seat. All right, I'm flying. Is that a rock?

I duck, I dodge it. I shoot back at him. I go around it. I don't indulge, but I don't give them what I know they want to see. But they're watching because they're saying one day, Wax going to hit him dead in his goddamn mouth. I know it's coming up. So Adam's going to continue to say shit,

and I'm going to continue to dodge it and say shit back. But we're the yin and a yang. You know what I'm saying? We're not supposed to be at the table. He's not supposed to say those things. I'm not supposed to accept him. I'm supposed to whip his ass. He's supposed to be ran out of L.A.

All of these factors is what make the Adam and Wax show so successful. But at one point, you're going to punch him in the face. Never. It's my brother. I get mad at Adam. I got mad at him. how bad up another day. I text him, I tell him how he's gotten mad at me.

But, you know, when two people respect each other, right? Yeah. They keep that in house. You know what I'm saying? So Adam's a good dude. R&B loves Adam. She loves Lena and the respect that he shows my wife every time she posts up and he reposted.

I don't want to do that type of stuff. You know, this is a simple basic acknowledgement sometimes that you got to like and not, you know, know, know that it's some value there. You know what I mean? No, that's my brother, man. And I'm working on something great for all of us. You know what I mean?

I'm setting up something in Dubai. And all my podcast are friends. I'm going to make sure y'all get a vacation with you and your significant other. I'll pick up a big bag. Be able to do everything. I'm setting up some things. And all you guys in the sports and athletes, we got some podcast situations setting up in Dubai.

Abu Dhabi, that is. That's going to be paying you guys a significant amount of money to go out there, do it through. three, four days, man. Get on that emmerence flight. Business class, man, and going out there and see some things. That's my spot.

That's my spot. Bro, you know what I like doing the most? It's going to the back, you know what the bar area is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got this drink because I don't drink. I call it the square beers. It's cranberry juice with red bull. So I get it and I put the little straw in there

and I sip on it and I make the ugly face that people do when they drink in a hard liquor. And I love it when I got like some real foreigner people back there and I have conversation of my life. Yeah. I will sit there and I say, oh, there'll be another one and they know it's some bullshit.

Man, out to about hour out and I'm taking, like, man, you're really taking those things down? Yeah, man, that's what we do out here. And I end up with phone numbers, business connects, all kind of things. That's funny. Sober as hell. That's funny. I like it.

You always been kind of like a middleman guy. Yeah. Like a good, you're good at connecting. Straight up. I can, I'm the guy where it can be war, war, put me in the middle. He needs them to do this and them to do that. And it works. Yeah.

So what's your beef with Lefty? Why do you have beef with Lefty? Adam started that. Why? Listen, respectfully, I have so much going on that I don't keep up with the up-and-coming. Unless you send me something. Like I don't see it and I know you know when these dudes like yo I got my cloud up and I'm buzzing They think the world knows right and some of us just don't know because

You're not in our lane. We're just simply not saying you're not doing your thing We're just not paying attention to it. I come in Adam what do you think about lefty gun play I don't know if this dude's talking about a rapper a black guy a Mexican guy a guy from Detroit and And I say, man, he probably ain't never even fired a gun in his life. I'm not thinking none. Right. Lefty on his way up. So you know what lefty did with that.

He took it. Fuck, Wack, 100 of this shit. What? On the truth, Holmes, you're a fucking liver. So now they like, whack, you heard what lefty gunplay said to you? I'm like, who the fuck is lefty gunplay? now I see who he is. I'm like, damn, why is he mad?

Didn't they play it? I'm like, shit. I didn't even know he was a real person. Why didn't you just say, I don't know who he is? Because that's what the common man would say. Okay. Okay. You're talking to Wack 100.

We're here to entertain. You put a little space on it. You're going to entertain. So at that point, I start trolling back. Now the troll is on. And when you start trolling with me, you troll it with my team. Bro, you know, I took that clubhouse. App somewhere different.

I got 39 spies. I got a research team. I got security. I can go on there. What time is it? It's 29. They're listening to the Adam and Waxhaw right now. It's 24-7.

Right? Bro, you think I'm playing. Yeah, you're fucking funny, bro. Okay, watch you. You're actually funny. Look, I'm going to put this in my phone, right? Listen, now the spies, I don't know who they are. They don't talk to me.

Bro. Look. Look. Look, bro, I'm not playing. If I hit any of them people, all these spies, it's information. Bro, look, watch this. These are phone numbers. I don't know who they are.

They're just in my goo. Look, watch this. I'll send them something. Look. Look, don't say it out loud. I'll send them something, right? Yeah. Holy shit.

Look. They haven't found his football pictures, right? Yo, what the fuck is this? Bro, this is the hundred-sided trilogy. Bro, this is the hundred-sided tree. So when you go to war with me, that's hilarious. When they hear it, they don't talk to me. I've never hearing their voice.

They said, how'd you set that up? My team, you know, I got the queen R&B. He's the queen on the Hunter's side. I got my team. I got Dreyes, lady killer. I got a whole team. We got like, brother, this thing over here. That's fucking hilarious.

This thing of ours has been 24-7, but three and a half years. never shut down. Rotating 15 different rooms, total different types. Right now is 1.30 there and sleepers in L.A. And right now, they're listening to the Adam and Waxe show. I know the schedule by heart, right?

So I can go over there. And when they just pull information? Huh? They just pull information. So what they do, if, like, if I'm on stage and somebody come up there, say, like, if you were to come up there, right,

and you get to talking crazy, they're going to, they're going to automatically start. And then they'll just start sending it to me. What, like, yeah, I see. Well, they'll send me, well, there's photos. They're going to send me anything that can be used to expose or embarrass your ass, right? Yeah.

Now, depending on if I want to use it, I use it. Now, the only agreement I have would despise is when they get into it with people on the stage in the chat. So in the chat, they be talking shit. When they text me, I have to say what they say, regardless. if I like it or not. So sometimes I find myself saying things to people on stage. That's my friend.

But that's our agreement. We're going to be your brain and your research team and you're going to be our voice. And they sit down there and these people are bankers. These people are a college professor. I do know a few of them have told me whack on me. Because you can tell when they're texting you, you're like a little different, right?

Five 33 and a third is dangerous. It's so funny. Bro, I showed you. No, it's cool. It's cool. You know what I'm saying? So then I have like a. I need that.

What's the fuck? Then we got the Crashout squad. My man, B's Keep a G. You know, now the Crashout squad is like kind of me and R&B and the Hunter Sides protection. So people come in the room talking crazy because someone want me to say something back to them just to have the sound bite, they'll deal with it. And these dudes say.

some of the most craziest things you ever heard. R&B disappeared to a room like the relationship side of the app, they'd be in there. Somebody say something crazy to them. They come off the mic his own. So now it's to a point. They'd be like, hold on, R&B in here, don't say nothing crazy. The whole goddamn hunting side dudes to pop up like it's like a little cold.

You're not afraid of them turning on you? No, not at all. Not at all. And we've had a few turn owners, not none of my spies, a few people on stage, we already know when they're going to turn. When you say on stage, you're referencing. Like, it's a, like you have the stage. The stage is where people could actually talk.

In the clubhouse app. Yeah. Yeah, okay. The goo is where they can't talk. There's just in the chat. They don't ever come on stage. It's like a Twitter space. Yeah, but instead of like, unlike Twitter was only like 8 to 12.

Yeah. I can have 100 people on there that can talk 200. Yeah. It don't matter. So, watch this. Sleep is in L.A. It's one of my rules. You use that.

Watch this. Watch this. what I tell you Didn't I tell you Adam and Wax shows on right now I know my schedule So they're just They're discussing content

Well all day they discuss content So we have a Like watch I'm gonna show you So if I go to my chat You use that app often Every day Yeah

Okay so watch this Hunting E&T right Watch this You see all those people in here Yeah All they do is drop content all day All day Well, I need one of these.

How the fuck do I get one of these? All they do is drop content all day. So as they're in the rooms, they're rotating the room, they take the link pin it up top. We got an audio team. Shout out to my man, Eric, A, Rob. We got a team to where we have manipulated to a point to where we have different profiles

that's hooked up to their rigs so then they can play the content. Like they'll, you see right now, all those people are in there listening to that out of the Wax Show. Yeah. So now if I want to run content, on you right say me and you get into it right yeah and the spies and went and dug up all kind of shit i hit the stage right i'm running your content boom boom boom this dude look at this dude

this chick said he was a dopey this this this now the media team i have a media team that sits down there and record and they got within 15 minutes it's up and it's in youtube and then i got teams that watch the media team who grabbed their stuff and react to it. Man. So it's a nice whole network. Yo, yeah. So it's great. Is it, is it on a, are they like YouTube short

or the actual YouTube videos? YouTube videos are everywhere. Like, if I go, how do I set this up? That's what I want to do it. If I go a hundred media team, like, look, here's my media team, look. So, like, if I need, look, I'll feed them shit.

See, that's me feed them shit. Give them instructions. Or if I need a clip Hey, go find that clip What that dude said on academics This is this Right? They'll go get it

This is my media team Right? Oh, I see You get what I'm saying? Right there Like if I'm talking like So whatever I need They know where it's such

You got your spies, your security The media team Then you got your administration Who structures rooms Like if Kanye I didn't brought Kanye Kevin Gates, Bird Man, I brought all kinds of people to that

So Kanye's coming to that So then they'll go in the group and they'll create the structure of the room who's going to be on the stage what's going to be the questions and then I noticed about two and a half years ago it was a lot of gay bashing going on

on the platform yeah people from the community was catching hell like because the big size of the app was our size of the app and they was like yo we don't fuck with none of that Jason Lee open gay man

that's my friend you know what I'm saying that's my real here real brother So we had a transgender named Nottie start coming to our side, gave Nottie the blues. I mean, I'm sitting back. They're like, yo, you're going to keep letting their transgender come back. The more that Nottie came back, taking the abuse and fighting back, right? The more I was like, I fuck with Nottie, right? As long as everybody know if you don't run, you're going to give favor from Wattie.

100 so the more they kept telling me um yo you gonna keep that letting that transgender come back so you got what they call a leader which is a regular moderator and an ad man can go in control the room open room so when they kept telling me you're gonna keep letting your transgender come back what you think i did made noddy a leader they kept on saying it i made noddy an ad men they kept saying it i called ray jay and put noddy on the fucking reality show. I'm a wolf, bro. I'm gonna defy you at all cause.

I respect it. You get what I'm saying? Ray J had a show on the Tronics Network called The Growles Club. And it was a house of 12 transgender. Made a call, flew Nottie out from Cleveland up from Ohio, right out here, put Nottie right in the show. Nottie was whooping Sidney Star's ass on camera

from Clubhouse. This is the fact. This is the fact. So now, now since I've done that, And then the trenches, you know, which is our other team, they like, they embrace the same model. They got a transgender over there. Now it's like, it's cool.

Don't nobody mess with them. You know, my brother Ion is, he's, and what I like about this is that they was able to teach me things I didn't know. I grew up in a gay bashing error. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So I didn't understand. understand it. So Ayan is queer.

He's openly queer. So when I brought Kanye West to the app, I let Ayan interview Kanye West. I don't want to interview Kanye West. Talk to him all the time. So they say, yeah, Wack, come on, brought everybody. You let that queer dude. Ayan's seven feet tall from New York.

He's seven feet tall, swear to God, right? Openly queer dude. And he only deals with men that have never dealt with a woman. Right? This is his thing. Yeah. I thought calling somebody queer in the community was disrespect. They're like, no, I wonder, that's how I want to be identified. So transgender man, transgender women, bisexual, bi-curious.

I didn't know about none of these things, but now when I walk in meetings, I'm comfortable and I'm able to have a conversation with everybody. Yeah. Right? So they always wonder why I let Ayan do the meet with Kanye West. Well, you know what I've noticed In the hallways and the titles Iyan has a room called

Fix My Life, I believe it is Forgive me, Iion if I said it wrong. You're referencing the app right now, right? The app. Now watch this. Ayan was an extreme Yeh hater. So who better, right?

Yeah. To question yay then the yay hater. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, I get you. So when Ion questioned Yeh after the interview,

guess what? Ion became a fan of Yeh. That makes sense. But I do, I will say, I believe it's a great investment. Ion, remember that name. I believe one day he's going to be on a large platform.

He's a seven-foot queer guy who talks that shit you can say something about his mama but he'll kill you if you disrespect his cat I believe one day Iion's going to be on a major platform I swear I believe this

and guess what happens if he's on that major platform and somebody says hey Wack hey man this dude Ion man we got a $5 million damn deal for it man can you get a hold of him guess what Ion will forever do when his phone says Wack 100 He's going to answer it.

For sure. Right? So what's the matter to my matter? You would have wanted to interview Kanye? Oh, me? Yeah. For what? I didn't talk to him a million times.

Maybe you could tell him to come on this podcast. If he's in town, I get a hold of him. Here's Jason Lee. I said him up to interview Kanye. Talking to Yey, you're going to have five different conversations at the same time. It's up to you and your brain. If you can keep up to which ones he's switching. to and switching back to

at a continuous flow. I think I can do it. Yeah, he's a mastermind. He's misunderstood. If you make a haste decision off of what he just said, you're going to miss it. It's always a method to his madness.

Always. Even with this, what he's doing with the swastika and the KKK thing, the KKK thing, right? A lot of people are taking it personal. And what he's doing is dethroning and devaluing the imagery. What it used to stand for. That's what he'd do.

If the LAPD start wearing red bandanas and the sheriffs start wearing blue bandanas like the crips in the bloods, they'd be like, yo, bro, the police wearing that shit. We may not want to do it on them. I see what you're saying. It's interesting. So, you know, he's never just like doing something to do it. Yeah, I could see that.

Yeah, he's a different monster. I love him to death, man. Yeah, he's one of them dudes. You ain't got to talk to him for two years. But he's still going to love you the way he was loving and respect you the last time. Yeah. Well, those are real friends, I'm sure. Who have you met in this industry that you like the most in the music industry?

I got a lot of those, man. people don't know that have my best interest at heart QCP Birdman Top Dog Alan Grum Black You know All my artists

You know game Ray J The other day I remember about two weeks ago 2 o'clock in the morning I get a call Birdman and QCP on the phone Grill me

Grill me Hey We're gonna get in your business But slow down on the internet We don't like what we're saying They're my brothers You know what I'm saying? It didn't matter

I asked them they said we ain't going to tell you for what Just slow down Right They're my brothers I'm not going to question them because If I'm incapacitated or if I'm in a coma or whatever, my family could call on those men

and actually they're going to call my family. You know what I'm saying? So as long as they're good, I'll always be good and vice versa. But, yeah, you know, I got a lot of my man headliner Mike. He runs live. You ever down in Miami?

Give me a car. I can make sure I set that up. But it's a lot of people, you know, that I got a lot of love and respect for, top dog, my mentors. You guys are, you know, I'm not bigger than the program. You know, my mentors, you know what I mean? My other brother out of Philly,

I don't really say his name that much because he's not a social media, but he knows what I'm talking about. You know, my mentors, people that teach me things. People are not scared to pull my coattails, hey, slow down. You know what I mean? People that championed me and be like,

hey, you can do it. Keep climbing. Get back up. So, you know, you know, man, I got a lot of people that do good business with me, man, Mike Kaiser, you know what I mean? Kevin Lows, I mean, all the greats, all the names, you know what I mean? But it seems like the people that stand out are the people that push you to be better. Definitely.

Yeah. But those people, when I'm getting to push, those people that need to be a stepping stone and open up a door that just as important. Yeah. you know what I'm saying like I'm headed down the lane they're like right go that way I'm going that way I'm like god damn I don't have to key to that door I don't have to key to that door and they say oh Mike Kaiser or Gabby Paluso right oh Gabby hey I'm 10 steps from the door what door so can you open it no problem door open yeah if I didn't think those people were there to open the door the direction that was given to me wouldn't have been at all yeah I mean like is all all relationships all network. Yeah, you know, and, you know, I tell people all the time, when you get to know me, you'll realize how many people really don't know me. Man, I hear all kind of talking chatter. It's crazy. I'd be like, what? But the people that know me, you could tell them something,

they'll be like, what you do? Don't get me wrong. I get, it's some, I've had a reputation about myself with some things. And the majority of times it comes from me protecting my family, my friends, my loved ones, my business partners. You know, people always tell you one side of it. But other than that, man, I'm pretty much easy going, man. The family man, I'm a father, I'm a dad.

You know, I'm a husband. I just want to see everybody win. You think everyone can actually win, though? Everybody could win in their own game. if you enter the game it's a lot of people on the sideline check their self out see people misinterpret the goal line as a competition yeah i think they they interpret other people's goal line as their goal line yeah you have it yeah see what your goal line is to be different from mine this man might live to 2040 and you might live to 2050 guess what when to top of his demise when his family and friends look up and they say he did this he did that there's no debt is this and that he raised the kid the grandkids he left everything paid off you know he won you know it's some people who never seen their

kids they was whine those or they committed to drugs or whatever it may be then you know you may be on the other side of things but i believe everybody could win at their game yeah even when you're losing in your game as long as you stay on the field yes you got action at winning yeah we're taught as kids brother the coach you know we're getting a our ass kick, but don't give up. Don't give up. How many times have you seen fights in schools where the David and Galap situation

and the little guy didn't give up and pow, therewith. Yeah, if not then, at some point, went in some way for sure. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, a lot of people just quit because it's easier. It was easy, everybody to do it, brother.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm moved by energy. You know what I'm saying? Most people, and I don't get caught up like to people pumping my head up or who I am and all. I don't get caught up, but I never, I am me. I'm a regular dude. Man, you're the, listen, that's cool.

That's the way you see me great. This is why you didn't get no pushback. Most people with my shoes, Saturday, 10 o'clock, a podcast tomorrow on Sunday. Man, get the, what time's good for you? 11. All right, cool. Yeah, that's exactly how I went, yeah. Because I believe everything's an opportunity.

And when it comes your way, that's when you start to build on it. But as you've gotten older, have you been able to recognize when, like, things aren't good opportunities? And how do you recognize them sooner? Um, I think my problem is I recognize them off the gate and R&B's been on me about this. And because of where I come from, when I start to remember I was a hardhead and people still stayed with me. Even when I recognize it and I should pull away, I stay in there with it, hoping and thinking I can change it. The optimism. Now, R&B, I was right, but she's right today.

I'm going to tell you the difference. I'm looking at it from when I was a child. It's more possibilities of a child going through a change than an adult is stuck in a ways. Majority adults is 35, 40, 42. That's who they are. So I'm looking at these people like, okay, bro, they stuck with you when you was a youngster. Stay wood or maybe you could change them. But I can't look at it like that because these aren't kids I'm dealing with.

These are grown men that come in with motives and things. And when you see it and detect it, you just got to pull away. Yeah. So, and that's a learning experience. That's a freshman, actually. So, you know, a fresh run in what situation? No, I've always, it's always, and I'm kind of like really just cleaning out my closet. Shout out to one of the greatest rappers alive.

Yeah, oh yeah. Marshall. To where I don't really have nobody left in here. Everybody that's around me, been around me, on some real shit, no BS. But now, man, you know, follow you. your intuition, follow your gut, and don't think you can change the world. Just think you can change some things in the world.

And always focus on working at change in you. Yeah. Well, that's a fact. I mean, you can't change anything else without change yourself. Yeah, you know, so. Brother, I appreciate your time. Genuinely. I got to go say bye to my mom. I know she's leaving. Definitely, yeah, I seen her step in. Yeah.

I was like, shit. I was about to tell her, I'm a Trump supporter, my Dukes. Yeah. No, she's not. I know. She's not. Hey, yo, bro. bro. Hey, bro. Yo, fuck. Don't tell her that.

We might have got some content. She's going to send you a bunch of fucking reasons. Bro, she texts me shit all the time. Like, oh, God, don't send me this. Credible diapers. You got any kids around here? I don't. I don't.

But I got someone who I can give these to.