RAWTALK - Why Lily Phillips Slept w/ 100 Men in 24 Hours

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Lily Phillips & talks sleeping with 100 men in a day, celebrity hookups, OF getting deleted & much more! Hope you guys enjoy, see you next Tuesday! Get Huel today with this exclusive offer of 15% OFF + a FREE Gift! at www.huel.com/rawtalk #ad #huelpartner

Guys, I'm here with the one and only, Bradley Martin. That's good. We're going to talk. We have some stuff to talk about, obviously. We got to get into it. I know more as number 101. No, no, no. I can't.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. Do you only film on Sundays? No, I film all the time. Oh, really? You just like... if and when kind of thing. Yeah, it depends.

Really, it's guest dependent, like on your schedule. I'll film whenever because it's easy for me because at my house. Oh, of course, of course. So I didn't realize after 100 guys is just like, you're on rapper time or what's going on? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. No, that's okay. No, I apologize.

No, you're great. You're great. How was your trip over here? Good. I mean, I got stopped at the border. So that was intense. We got stopped. for like two hours.

They were like... Wait, what border? At your border, the United States border? In J.K? Yeah, no, no, no, in Vegas one, they were like, we heard you here to fuck a thousand guys. Is that what they said? Yeah, genuinely, brought my porn home and everything.

That's what I was going to ask, like, why the flight, like, do people recognize you and go, that's the girl? Well, they brought my porn. I don't think they quite recognize me, but my stage name is the exact same as my porn name. So it's like, I guess you can just like search, up and shit like that. Wait. So it's not your real name. No, no, that is my real name. Sorry. Okay. So they're just the same. So they're like, so people see it and they're like,

wait, I think I've seen that one somewhere. Well, I think it's more like, I guess they might have like a database database or something like that. Yeah, database. Database. That they search up or something like that. Because they were like, what do you do for work? Like content creator. They knew what you were going to go do? I don't know. Well, that's what they pull me up for. But I was like, it's not illegal to have sex with a thousand guys. No, it's just insane. It's insane. So obviously we're going to talk about it,

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like something to do. I didn't really know what I wanted to do. Yeah. And then I went there and that's when like, only fans were sort of becoming a thing. Yeah. And I couldn't log in to my first ever lecture because it was Zoom. It was like the time of COVID. I couldn't log in. And so I thought, fuck it. Let's do only fans. Because I was already really into like taking Instagram photos and social media. So you're already doing social media. Yes. And then only fans became a thing or it had been a thing? It kind of been a thing. It was just kind of like people were talking about it a little bit. Yeah. And I just kind of heard of it. I didn't realize you could actually make money on it. Like I thought, this has got to be fake. You can't

make money on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. And so you didn't, what were you going to school for prior? Like, what were you going to? Nutrition. So you wanted to be like a like a bit of a nutritionist. I was in love sport. So there's something to do with that maybe. That's what I went to college for. And then you were just like, fuck it. I'm going to like, because this is the thing with the whole OF thing is like most girls don't necessarily even start at that level of like, I'm going to do actual pornography. Yeah. They kind of go, I'm going to sell pictures. Like, did it start like that? Yeah. It started like very much like more tame kind of stuff. But I was doing this kind of stuff in my personal life anyway. What kind of stuff? As in like I was fucking lots of guys,

gang bangs. Like before you ever filmed it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like a hobby before it was work. So that's what I'm curious about. Like, why? What do you mean why? You're just like, I'm just, this is like, this is not even on camera. This is, you're just, you're like, I just want to do the, I want to experience these things. I was just enjoying it.

Like, I don't know. I guess I got some kind of thrill from fucking these guys and like, I enjoyed the sex. I enjoyed it with like lots and different kind of guys as well. I don't know. I think I get off to getting guys off. Yeah. you're and you don't even you don't even care how that sounds huh why how does that sound just sounds nasty you know not the good kind you know what i'm really into as well like i used to do like

you ever you had of amigal amigal yeah yeah so like when i was like 13 and flashing my tits like you know these like old guys like wanking off me like getting in honing making them rank up and shit like but you were like you were you were you were never like i want to it's just such it's such an interesting conversation because I feel like this whole industry, I mean, just pornography in general is just so fucking toxic for people, literally for the users. Not so, not, because every time I have these conversations with people who actually like produce it or make the content, sometimes they're like, yeah, I regret it. I wish I didn't do it. A lot of times it's always after the fact, after they made a bunch of money, then they're like, yeah, it's bad. I shouldn't

have done it. You don't think you're ever going to feel that way? No. No, definitely not. As well, I'm always a believer in like everything happens for a reason. So like even if I made a mistake or did something wrong in my life, it's got me to where I am. So like I'm happy to have made that mistake. You know, like the butterfly effect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just different butterflies on this one. Lots of butterflies on this one. Yeah. I just it's you know what? Because like right now it's like everyone's they're all going crazy about TikTok being banned and like all the reasons or not reasons that it is or isn't happening. And then the like I keep seeing people are trying to like make the parallel. It's like, well, why are they not getting rid of these other things that are

what like porn and only fans and stuff like that is like basically destroying like because we're talking about TikTok like people's biggest thing is like besides the fact that it's like, you know, Chinese are spying on us, whatever they're saying. It's also like, well, that's just fucking brain rot. Why are we doing that? So that that conversation leads into like, well, what about all these other things that are just basically destroying and like degrading society? There's always going to be some kind of porn though like there's always going to be something and like people need to control themselves like i don't think we should be blaming porn i think people just need to be a bit more disciplined that's true that's true the problem with it though is that and obviously i can't i can't speak

from a you know from a place where like i don't give any sort of bad off i try to not you know but i guess someone could identify oh well you know i work out and maybe they'll talk about steroids or whatever the things are that are encouraging kids because the whole thing it comes down to like that is like what are we doing to the sort of the next generation or the people coming up thinking like even for you for example when you were like yeah I was going to be a nutritionist and then I was like well I can just make more money doing this now so many girls are just like well why would I ever or I seen some clip of these girls talking about like why would I ever try to get a regular job if I was hot I could just make money on only fans that's not personally

where my place came from it was more like I found a passion that I could make money from it It wasn't like I really want to make a ton of money like for having a normal job or anything like that. I just kind of like really enjoyed the creative aspect of it. And I was doing it already for free. So I thought, why not try and make a bit of money from it? But I also believe that like say alcohol, a lot of people have alcoholism and alcohol problems. People don't then blame the shop, you know, like the liquor store that you guys have here. People don't go and blame them. You know what I mean? Like it's it's hard. because so many people blame OnlyFans girls for, like, people being, like, addicted to porn and things like that.

And it's like, we wouldn't do that with our car shop. So why we're doing it with? Yeah, I guess it's, it's tough because the internet makes all this so much more complicated because people can sit behind whatever paywall they're going to and they could lie about their age. And, like, a lot of these, like, just younger kids who are actually coming and actually buying this content that it's just not good. Yeah. I do agree that it should be like stricter, especially with porn hob, like you can just search up porn hub. You're on the website. There's no like, there's no like, I'm 18. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm 18. It's like, everyone I was a kid, I wasn't 18. I was clicking. I was 18. Yeah, same. 13. What's this? So that's what I'm saying, like, that whole conversation is like, I genuinely think it's not good. No. I, I do kind of agree, like, slightly. I don't know. I also think, like, we shouldn't put all the blame on, like, the porn websites. It should also just be like, you know, take care of yourself. But I think if we're going to take care of yourself. But I think if we're going to take. But I think if we're going to take. But I think. We're going to, like, ban some shit. Like, maybe it should be...

I'd say put an ID check on porn websites. Like an actual one. Yeah. Not just like, yes, I am. Yeah, yeah. It's so bullshit. Yeah. Because, I mean, I see what you're saying, the point of, like, you know, everyone's to their own accord.

But I think now, like, just the world now is so easy to just get wrapped up into shit, whether it's like, not necessarily this particular, but anything that people see and they think it's okay. so-and-so you say it's okay and some of the girls like yeah I'm gonna do that too because I feel the same way I just think like where does it all go though you know where does it end up it just seems like we're just fucking just destroying ourselves I also think like where how how sexualizes everything in a gut because obviously I feel like through time like social media you see Twitter you go on Twitter you just see porn don't you yeah like through time everything's got so much more like heavy sexualized like you see it everywhere like girls tits and like just

everything and it's like when is it going to get to that point where it's like we can't show how do I say this there's it's like so sexualized that like people's pussies are just like on TV yeah but this what I'm saying like you like will there be a pinnacle where then we then we become like more Mormon again yeah I mean I don't know about Mormon but I think we're getting to that point where people are just like it I think it's doing more harm than it's doing good and I think there's obviously a lot of women that, you know, they're able to, not even porn specifically, but even just the other tiers of only, only fan shit where it's like, I'm just selling this. I'm selling that. Because there's this weird thing that I don't, like, I don't

know if you ever talk about this, but people are buying your content or are they messaging you or they're paying for these things. And I'm assuming, and I don't know how you're going to answer this because a lot of people try to pretend like they do it all, but like you don't even have the time to answer all of this stuff. Someone's probably, likely helping you with it. And then you have these people who are like, you know, they'll call them in cells or whoever. And they're like buying this content under the idea of the notion that they're buying it from you and they're talking to you. And it's really probably someone who's just regurgitating the content that's already filmed and then regurgitating the messages and people

are paying for this. And it's like, they're not even talking to the person that in their fantasy mind they're talking to. And it's just weird. It's so strange to me how people don't, they don't get that or I don't know if they don't know that or if they don't care. But it's like, we're that's selling this sort of like weird weird fucking fantasy and I think it's just making people fucking dumb as far as dumb and like lame and it's just I think there's like two sides to though because there's people who are like turn into incels and then there's these like red pill men who are like so intense like it's gone to extremes what's what's intense about the red pill men who are just like women shouldn't be horrors yeah like no no they're not even saying just

that they're just basically saying like we are not equal that men and women are not equal yeah yeah yeah women should stay in the kitchen and you know get like be stay at home moms and things like that yeah i mean well that's a there's a whole conversation around that that comes to like fucking economy and the way the world's gone and how how like weak the dollar there's so many things that have led to like women having to make more money on their own just because like general not even talking about you and making money, but people can't even sustain their sort of life that was quote unquote the American dream for so long. So people, you know, women in general are like more than ever the last like have to get jobs and have to be involved in actually

making money. Otherwise like people can't even sustain, sustain themselves anymore. So it's just a weird, it's a weird time, but I still can't get over the fact that like I think it's so poisonous to people. Like it's causing. Yeah, man. Like, and even this only fan saying that just the fact that I know for a fact, 99% of these girls, they're not even running it. Like they're just, they're doing whatever they're doing. They're taking the photos.

They're giving it just some team and the team is like running it for them behind them or answering the messages because they don't even, they wouldn't have the bandwidth to reach that amount of like, you know, we talk about the girls who was like some chicks. I made $4 million, whatever. It's like she's not, there's zero chance at that girl, we don't have to have the conversation about it. I don't even have to talk about it that she's answering all those messages.

so then this weird parasocial relationship that they're having with a person that they'll it's like they'll likely never meet they'll never actually talk to they're not actually talking to but they're like emptying their bank accounts i mean what's different about me is i do meet them and i do get them that more like personal thing and the guys actually get to fuck me so it's a little i mean it's a little different but it's like and then you talk about or i see you know then the copycat people and it's like it's weird it's like this is like becoming some sort of Well, did you see that woman just got arrested in Turkey? Yeah, I did.

I saw, I saw, I don't know if that was real or not. I saw that clip, though, of a girl who was, I guess she was going to do something. I don't know if it was similar, but she was going to fuck a hundred guys for any fans. Yeah, so like, look what you're doing. You don't ever feel, you know, but you're not like, what am I doing? You know what I do stuff for me and I do stuff because, like, I know I'm going to enjoy this and I don't do it for the money. So I know what I'm doing it for the money. But you do it for the money.

Because you just said earlier that you were in college and you were going to do this, but then you're like, fuck it, I can make money doing this. No, I meant as in, I found a way that I could make money doing, doing a hobby, doing something I enjoyed doing. So I thought, why not? Like, that is the dream now. Like, do something you love and never work a day in your life. Yeah, yeah.

I guess. If you could make money, you know, doing this, talking, gym content. Yeah. Yeah. Why the hell not? But for sure, I just think what that adds to society, like if some guy's like, oh, man, I want to better my life. I want to get in shape because I like whatever I see or I want to eat healthier and better

my body. Like, we're talking about the same thing, but like one is very detrimental and then one is like actually kind of aspirational. I mean, I don't think of mine is detrimental. I'm doing charity work out here. I'm sure some of these guys haven't fucked in 10, 20 years. But that's like the, that's like the thing. Remember we talked about we were with Candace and Stani, but that's the thing that's almost

like you kind of have to say otherwise, it's like people would be less interested in coming to support or to purchase or to be a part of whatever these escapades are. And if you didn't say that, then people would be like, oh, she doesn't actually like this. I don't want to support this. So I'm just trying to figure out like how actually genuine do you, do you think you're doing a good thing? Is it like a net negative or a net positive to like a world? Or you just don't care. No, no, no, I'm not saying I'm helping out society. I'm not saying, like, I'm doing the world good and things like that. I'm just saying I'm doing what I want and enjoying what I want. And I don't, like, I've never claimed to be an influencer. You know what I mean? Like, this is just, this is just my life and I'm sharing it on the internet. So you don't, you don't ever think about like if it's hurting other people or fucking other people. It doesn't matter to you. The thing is, though, I've always like preached that women shouldn't follow what I do. What I do is extreme and I do it because I enjoy it. and I don't want to like force other girls to do this at all. I've had so many girls message me saying like should I start only fans

and I've always preached like you need to have a real good thing because this will change your life. It's not all good things, you know. Society sees you in such a different way. You're going to have your relationships with all your friends and your family are going to change. There are downsides to this job 100%. And I very much, you know,

tell them the pros and the cons and let them make their own decision. Yeah. Should we just not let them make their own decisions then anymore? What do you mean? I'm kind of like the red pill guy. So they just not make decisions anymore because they're making bad ones. Yeah, there'll be some girls that choose not to do it though if I tell them, I think, like all the pros and the cons.

So you are an influencer. No, I'm just trying to help girls. If they want to get into the industry, I want to tell them the whole. whole truth because obviously on online people are saying Sophie rain makes four million dollars a month or something like crazy like that that is one person out of millions that makes that much isn't like the average only fans girl make about like girl or boy sorry make about 100 200 dollars a month which is kind of nothing yeah yeah I mean fuck and like obviously you're going to see all the successes online you're going to see them pushed in the media and shit like that

people don't realize how many people are so unsuccessful on it as well because you just don't hear about it. Yeah, I get it. Pull up that, pull up that documentary thing. I just, I can't believe. It's like people, it's just feeding into the, the fucking negativity. It's like people just love, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to you, kind of, but like people love the train wreck. Like this is a, this is an hour long video. What do you? Well, this is a thing. This is an hour a long video and the clip the clip that went the most viral is the one of me crying yeah when like I'm so positive throughout all of it put that little part I wonder I genuinely wonder what like like when no one's here and there's no cameras and your assistant or whoever you're wonderful

you're probably great is not here like you go home are you just like I'm fucking stoked on what I'm doing I just want to know the truth no I'm I'm so chuffed like I literally said to my assistant I was I'm actually just like living like this. Like just pretend the cameras are off right now. Right. This is what I aspire to do for like. You don't go home and you cry a little bit like fuck, man. What did I do?

Jesus, no. I saw a clip of you with fucking, it looked like you had something on your face. Spunk on my face. Yeah. Like what like. I did a little come walk. This guy called Plasterer Amati generally has like the biggest come loads ever.

Like you've ever seen that it's like nothing else. So I just need to do a come walk with it. it's like so there's you just oh god you just have no to me right soul yes do you do disagree with that disagree with what walking around would come on my face that know that you don't have a soul I don't think I don't have a soul I don't really I don't think too deep in stuff like that I think I I don't think I'm very smart, and I think that's why I'm, like, so happy all the time because I don't think that deep into things. You know, people who overthink things all the time, it makes them so unhappy and they're

on antipressants because they're thinking about this or that. I just think I'm quite, like, quite stupid that I just don't, I don't think a lot. I guess because I've always done things, and it's just me personally, like, no one needs to be how I am or, you know, anyone could be how you are, whatever. but I just think in life money's great and it's cool and everyone thinks it's everything you need until you have it and then you get to a point where you're like, well, is this, is this what's actually making me feel fulfilled and happy? And when I talk about the soul, I just mean like, in my opinion, someone's soul is sort of their relationship to their life and how their life

sort of plays out in relationship to everyone else, you know, and the energy that you put out there and, you know, the words that you say or the moments that you have, have with people, whether it's online or not, is like how that energy gets kind of moved through that friend group or in this situation to people who are watching this video or however, like this documentary with fucking 8 million views a month ago, like people are watching this and they're thinking about their lives and their relationships and all these, whatever, right? And I think it's great. Making money is amazing. It's fun and you could buy fucking nice things and travel and eat the food you want to eat. And that's like the kind of

coolest part of it. But how you make the money, I don't know. I just feel like, because I could, there's so many things I could do and I could have done or I could still do that I'm just like, I can't do that because it just, it just wouldn't sit well with me. And because like the way that I know that it would affect other people. And I think the sad part in it, and again, I'm not just trying to like attack you or make you feel bad, but it's like there seems to be less regard for the world like this is just another extension of it and there's so many other versions of it or other industries that kind of do the same thing where it's like fuck everything I'm just trying to get paid I'm just trying to have money and live my life this way that I want to live it and I don't

care about anything else but then like that affects everything else in so many different ways and so when I talk about the soul it's like just I don't it's like will willfully being like I don't care about if this affects anyone any other way because you know you might be the one exception that was able to do this as a woman and be like, I don't, I actually don't give a fuck and genuinely not give a fuck. But as much as you say to the next girl, like, yeah, you shouldn't do this because there's so many things bad with it. Like the girl who's also struggling financially might be like, well, I need money though. Because I've had conversation with girls that are like, yeah, I just did this because I needed money. And you said at one point you did it because

you needed money and you went towards it. But it was also something you did. I just think there's so many people who are going to like aspire to do something and just like, I don't know. It seems like overall social media of the world we're pushing more people towards who cares about anyone else or anything else just get what you need and that's it. And that to me is like the version of selling your soul because you're like, I don't care how this affects

or comes across to anyone as long as I'm happy and as long as I have money and as long as I'm fulfilled and whatever ways make you fulfilled and like fuck how it affects everyone else. The thing is before I did like the 100 or any of these like big stunts, before I actually did porn, I was probably making like over six figures a month.

This was before I did porn when I was doing like very quite like tame stuff on my own what is tame stuff? Maybe like solo stuff, a bit of finger em. So still doing it, but not like, I don't think of that as like porn. I think that's just like. But if someone's purchasing it and they're watching you and then they're probably, you know, goon into it, that's porn. I don't know.

That is porn. But guys won't over Instagram. photos so yeah listen I'm not saying it's fucking but it's they'll fucking mind over anything so anything's porn to them but what I was trying to say is basically like I didn't have to do this like I had enough money I have very much the same lifestyle as I did before I did any of these like extreme events and so like obviously you're saying like oh like you've done this so much for money and it's like it's not not really because like I was doing so well by like I could just kept going as I was and you know still had a good lifestyle lifestyle sorry and then you said

fuck my soul I'm going to fuck a hundred guys in one day no I don't think of myself as this might sound a bit of my own ass I don't think of myself as a bad person like even after doing this and like you said like this has like a tremendous effect on other people I it's quite hard especially like fuck those other people right no but I don't think of it like that like I don't think I'm influencing anyone because like I'm just out here doing my thing you know what I mean and I it's quite funny I guess being on social media and being online you don't realize like how many people are watching like there may me 8 million people are all actual people like to me we went to this event yesterday where I met like a lot of like porn fans and things like that

and like that was that it was called X3 it's like a convention for was that out here yeah yeah yeah yeah oh I think it's normally like Vegas shit yeah well then there's another one Vegas I'm going to. Okay. But it was just funny to see like their actual real life people watching my shit. Like you don't, I guess you don't really fathom that it's actual people. Yeah, I didn't think they were real. I don't get it. I don't understand. I don't understand. I've, I've never in my life ever purchased anything on any pornography sites ever. Yeah. I just don't get it. But then you're, you're what, do you watch porn? No, I used to have you. Oh, I used to. And I had a problem. I think I had a problem with it. Yeah. And which is why I had to stop it.

This is the thing, because everyone slates the porn industry, but then watches it themselves. And it's like, well, you contribute. I realize, I recognize how detrimental it was to my mental health and how much it was like making me either nonproductive or like me doing it. And be like, what the fuck am I doing? You know that moment? Like most guys probably relates to that with like they fucking, they're not. And they're like, why did I just fucking do this?

No really. But I'm saying like that and just porn in general, like watching it. And like it's just not a real, it's not like a real fucking. It makes me a lot more productive when I watch it. So. It makes you more. more productive. Yeah, because I'm not, I need to do that. Gives me ideas. So that's what I'm saying. It's a you. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a you thing, right?

But yeah. Everyone else is like, they're just like, they're almost becoming like mental slaves to the shit that like that, like, that quick dopamine reaction to like, oh, I got my fucking shit off. And it's, it's, I genuinely, I stopped probably like almost three years ago, jerking off in general, period. But also stop washing porn. Because I, I remember recognizing at one point, And I was like, I'm wasting time, energy. Like, this is just not making me. Do you just not wank or do you just see girls? Yeah, no, I just have sex.

Hopefully like a normal person is what I'm thinking. But yeah, I just, I recognize how detrimental it was for me. And that's why, you know, when you talk about it, because this is, you know, there's just people who are going to see this and be like, oh, I want to either check it out or a girl is going to see it like, oh, I want to be on a podcast and talk about whatever. right and it's just you're adding to both levels of just sort of someone's fucking misery in this like this temporary fucking but then we can talk about fucking life in general and how temporary all this shit is but i don't know man it just feels weird and you never feel that

no no i don't feel truly you never go like man what the fuck am i doing no no no i don't ever be like, God, I wish I didn't choose to do this. Never, never, ever, have I ever looked back and regret it? That's the, that's the thing. Like, people always say, like, you know, especially when they watch this, I like, it's like, regret it. Not all. There was not one bone in my body that I, I feel shame or regret it or anything like that. I just saw, I thought it was like the best decision ever. Fuck, dude. I just find it so hard to believe. Like, because, like, where do you, where do you go from here? You, it's like, you, do you want to have kids? Do you not care about family and kids and other kind of stuff?

I think I'll see how, how, like, I'm very, like, in the moment kind of person. I just see how things go, see how my life goes. Like, I'm also one of the people that's like, I could die tomorrow. You know what I mean? And like, so I kind of wanna do what I wanna do kind of in the moment.

Obviously, you do have to think about stuff like longevity and stuff like that, but yeah, I'm quite like in the moment person always happen. So you're good, this is what you're good with leaving behind if you died tomorrow? Oh, 100% yeah. Fuck, good.

Great legacy. what if you could have done something different what if i could do something different yeah i'm not good at anything else though all right let's try to work on it let's pretend that you just never happened you never did this what would you be doing i always thought social media something in social media because i was already kind of doing something like that i've always been quite like creative with you know like instagram photos and things like that but then like i have obviously really sexual side. So this is why this was just such a good job for me because it brought together like what I loved, the creative nurse photos and things like that with my sexual side.

You're good. You got a good poker face. I just don't buy it, man. There's no way you don't go home and you're like, fuck. It's so funny. Like, people say that to me all the time. But there are other girls out here who fuck 100 guys without being on camera. Like, I don't think you realize, like, what it's like when you go to like these swingers clubs. Like these are people's lifestyles. They're married and they're fucking people. Like some people are just different. Like no,

not everyone thinks like you. For sure. Yeah, I get it. I remember I once, oh, fuck, this is so funny.

I, uh, it was when I was still a trainer before I blew up on social media. There was a guy. I was training at my time, at the time I was training a girl that I was dating and he saw me training this was in Beverly Hills at an equinox. And this guy come up to me and he was like,

Oh, train me and my wife. And this is when I was broke. Right. This is an example of not selling my soul. But I looked back. I was like, maybe I should have done that given the circumstances. But I also didn't because it just would have felt weird. But long story short, I was a trainer.

So he said, come train me and my wife. I'm like, cool. He said, come to our house and come meet us. Through a couple different conversations, I started to get the vibe that this was like not a normal training thing that he was looking for. He wanted me to fuck his wife. He wanted me to fuck his wife and he wanted him to watch. Yeah. And he was saying strange things to me and I was like, that's kind of weird.

But I'm like, again, this is when I was broke his shit, just trying to figure my life out. And I met the wife. And you could tell the wife, because I met the wife and then there's a nice house in Beverly Hills and they had these kids. And I see the kids. I was like walking through the kitchen and I sit down and like living around and talking to him and the wife comes in. And I remember meeting her. And you could tell by the look on her face and just the whole energy and everything about her, this was not something she was happy doing.

She didn't enjoy this. But she was doing it because she was his wife. Yeah, he wanted. And I remember after I met her and because I was at that point, I was like, okay, I know what this is. And I met her and I was like, yeah, I can't do this. Because she seemed just soulless. So not into it. She seemed like I have to do this because my husband wants this and I don't enjoy this.

He should have dated me instead. Well, I mean, he could have found you. This is the thing, though, like, I think people don't realize, like, how many people are into it. So I get this question on the daily, like, you're never going to find a guy to marry or you're never going to find a boyfriend or live a happy life or get loved. And it's like there are so many guys out there that people don't realize that are into lending their wife out, you know, being a cook or. Is that the kind of guy you want to marry? Yeah, I would be happy with that. You'd marry a guy who'd be like.

That would be the dream. What do you mean? Like, I could go fuck as many guys as I wanted. and have a husband. That sounds so terrible. Or I always think that or a guy in porn, so he's doing the same as me. Yeah, I always figure that that's like that's the go-to. That's the only way it goes, it feels like at some point.

And you wouldn't care. You'd be fine with that. No, no, no, yeah, yeah. I'd be happy, like, because as well, then I would feel happy with myself because then I could do what I wanted as well and, like, still do my job. I would never like to be with someone who would go, you need to stop your job. otherwise we can't date it. Yeah.

I said I wouldn't date that. Does there's no one that you could stop the job for? No, no, no. Fuck, man. Not until like, the thing is, though, I want to keep doing this even in my personal life till I'm, like, knocking on death's door. So, so, like, I need someone who's, like, happy. Well, what is it?

What is it that you enjoy about it? I think it's the exhibitionist. like I like people watching me have sex and things like that like you enjoy that you get off on that yeah yeah I think that's one reason why I loved owning fans so much because so many people were watching me you know get off and have sex and things like that that's and you just never think of the negatives that can come with that for them just zero thought of that no because they're texting me going fucking I love this like fuck man until they fucking grow up and realize it's destroying their brains.

But I think that's like your point of view. They destroyed your brain. I think it's my, I think it's just happening. And whether people are aware of it or not, I think it's happening regardless, genuinely. But I watch porn and I watch porn very like,

with a level head. Like I'm not, you know, crazy addicted and things like that. Like I can watch porn and get off to porn then. I can also masturbate and not watch anything and just think about things and still get off. Like I'm,

I guess, disciplined with it. Yeah. Yeah. Normally, it's a gambling term, normally, or a life term in the gym, but not so much in the sex world, I guess. Discipline is such a funny thing to say. So, okay.

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fucking 50 or fucking 10 or because a hundred such like a nice round number that's a nice i'd already done i think 40 at that time do any of the guys stand out there was one with a micropinus so the guy with the smallest penis there was one that also licked his own spunk off my face he was fucking terrible that guy should be we should you know maybe you're doing good work we could find these people and like put them somewhere you know i've had many a girls message me saying i need to know the list of guys that are fucking you and come to these things so i can stay far away as possible yo like yeah we got to put them on a list this is a different kind of list well i don't get it too

the thing i never understood was like where do you find these people they're just like random people who have online yeah i just put it out to have online and you're like yo it's like a meet up and we're going to meet here and then and then just they're just looking at each other like what the fuck yeah there's like there was a waiting room so like yeah i remember the first clip i saw there's just a bunch of shoes yeah that was the first thing i saw well some of them were like hyped to go together as well some of them wanted to go in the gang bang and things like that because sorry with the hundred i did it mostly one-on-one but some of them wanted to go together there was one guy that actually his wife sent him there like showed him his wife showed him my post and was like

need to go to this. That's what I mean, like, they're into stuff like that. Where are these people, man? We got to roll them up. You should put them somewhere. You know, you'd be really surprised because some of them are really good looking. That sounds kind of mean, but like, you know, some of them I had like all ages, all races, all body types. Like, it's really surprising that like every man in their dog are happy to come to these things, not just like weird, creepy men. That's surprising. That's surprising. That was surprising to me as well.

But maybe it's just they're just creepy in their own way, you know, mentally, mentally fucked. Mentally just don't care about life. I don't know, man. Obviously, it's just, it's guy, girl, shit. We can talk about that shit all day. But so are you, are you trying to, I guess you're trying to do more? Yeah.

I'm doing 300 on. I can't talk you out of it. No, I don't know. I've had, trust me, I've had a thousand Christians in my DMs trying to talk me out of it. But no other religious people were, no other religious Christians? Mostly Christians. Trying to just like, they're probably like, yo. Yeah, there's a hashtag save, save Lily Phillips.

We need to, you need to meet God, like not die, but like you need to, you need to God in your life. Any God. You don't think there's some truth to that, little God? No, no, no. Do you believe in? I believe in manifestation like a high power. Yeah, you don't believe in God. No, no, no.

Are you like atheist? I don't know. I'm just not, I'm not bothered. I'm not bothered. It's the craziest way to answer that. So you believe in the higher power though? Yeah,

I believe that there's something out there. Well, I believe in like manifestation that like something is meant for us and you know, you're here for a meaning and things like that. You work towards it. Yeah.

Hmm. You don't believe in like manifesting bad things. What if you put it out into the universe? Yeah. This being like a bad thing and like doing it and then no because i'm like a glass half full kind of girl oh my god what kind of glass is that yeah a spunk one we've got a whole jar that i'm trying to fill up the minute you didn't bring that here i brought the jar i know no i've had adam 22 fill up the first

one we put it we i have had adam 22 to sorry adam 22 fill up the first bit so i'm trying to like see how long it takes to fill up a jar of spunk because like when I do these big gangbangs, I always think, like, how many millimetres have come am I actually taken? Like, it's just, it's like, for scientific reasons. So I've sacrificed it. Instead of going on my face, it's going in the jar.

And I'm going to count how many, like, as it takes to fill up. Hmm. Yeah, I feel like back in the day, people would just, like, pick flowers or something, put it in the jar. Like, there's some water in there. And, like, you know, like, it's just some wholesome shit. Or, you know, like, people collect, like, teeth, hair and stuff.

I collect spunk. Or put like herbs in there, like for tea. But, okay. That's, tea isn't my hobby. Tea's not the hobby. No, I get it. Has there been anyone like, anyone popular? Obviously, can't really fucking docks them,

but has anyone reached out that was like wanting to? I fucked Faye's Banks yesterday, day before. That docks to him. He doesn't mind, though. He's one of them people that's, like, very, like, open. Like, he's, he's very honest with, like, anything. He won't mind, I'm sure. I'll say this.

I feel weird asking, but how was that, I guess? Big cock. Nice, congrats face. Thank you. Congrats banks. Wow. I mean, he kind of has everything, though. Like, because he's what?

He's like tall and tall, good-looking, rich. Yeah. Lovely personality as well. Like, he's quite humble. Great guy. I thought he was going to be like. I love that guy. Yeah.

I thought he's going to be a bit, it sounds rude, but just like a bit like L.A. Like, what has that even? Are you just like, oh, so we're here? Because I feel like there's so, there's no. because they know what it is that person's going to know what it is it's just like that is it just like all right get on the bed like no no no no he was like come out like me and my friends are out here have some drinks stuff like that and then we just booked in the toilets classy thank you classy wow that's what i'm assuming that wasn't your first time in the toilet

the disabled person and waiting outside for me sorry oh my god i'm joking Fuck everyone else but me, dude Yeah, fuck the disabled guy You probably let him on too, no Yeah Oh, when I was at these conventions Yesterday, there was guys in like wheelchairs And I was like, I really want to fuck someone in a wheelchair

Yeah, I mean, fine, I mean shit As well, you know, I see, this is a good thing Something good Fuck someone in a wheelchair and like whatever charity They want the money for the video to go to I'm happy to I love to give the money over The charity thing is pretty

Yeah. Hell yeah. Justin, I don't know if there's any saving her, bro. I don't know if there's any saving her. Too far past gone. Fuck. So has there been anyone, you don't even have to say the name, but has there been anyone like the popular besides banks that has like hit you up,

that you're like, wow, that's kind of weird. Like a random dudes with checkmarks being like, yo, it was good. Or they like trying to stay away. Who's like the most famous guy? The thing is I docks people. So like, I feel like people are. I do. I do.

No. Well, we know you don't care about other people. We've established that. No, but it's like, I can docks before. I really care. I didn't really know. Not anyone recent. Oh.

Okay, because Donnie keeps trolling me and saying that I was trying. Have I tried? No, no, no. See, I'm honest. Like, I wouldn't have a lie about that. Yeah. So no one's, no one hit you and was like, yo, like, what's going on over there? You're in L.A.

I'm trying to think. trying to think there's people all the time but i'm just a bit like i'm not bothered about anyone who's famous that sounds like i don't know a bit like ooh a bit old my own ass but like i don't really care who i shag so like it's neither here nor there if it's someone famous you just really don't care no fuck i don't get it i don't i don't it just not computing with me you don't feel like your body's like special or important no no okay I'm giving my body what it wants your body's not a temple

a temple that likes visitors that likes visitors okay holy shit well we tried Justin we tried dude we did we really try what okay let's let's try Have you ever had like a lady in the adult industry come on and you you change her no absolutely not no there's no I don't think there's changing

it's just talking about it it. I don't think you can really change someone. Are there many people that come on and it's like, I regret that. I've talked to people who have said that they, you know, that have done it for time and they all kind of do regret it over time. But there are people in the industry have been in there for like 20 years. What's that? There's people, sorry, there's people in the industry who have been there for like 20 years. Yeah. No, I've talked, I mean, like, for example, I had a lot of Rose on and she talked about her experience in and was like, she wishes she didn't do a lot of the stuff that she did because the way I guess it's sort of I think she went into it though because she was like

this is going to sound mean but like poor and for the money and things like that I think that's because wasn't she in prison I don't know all the details but but but you just said but that's why you did it too no it wasn't mine was because it was a hobby and I could make money from a hobby but like I this can sound like I've always like lived a comfortable life like my parents were went poor or anything like that. And so, like, I didn't have to go into this at all. Yeah. You know. Okay. So your parents, your, your, your dad does not care. They, this is how I explain it to people. They don't support what I do, but they support and love me. And so they'll always have my back no matter what. Does that make sense? Yeah. I mean, of course, your parents,

like I haven't killed anyone I haven't done anything illegal you know I'm just doing porn for sure and I think as well if they like disowned me and didn't stop talking to me like it would only make like 10 times worse for all of us so why would they do that kind of thing oh for you for you and your family yeah yeah yeah I mean I don't know I just not even so much that just at somewhere along the lines would have been like maybe don't do this if you had a daughter what would you do what would i do yeah if i was your daughter oh my god uh before it had started uh or when i saw it was starting i probably would have like sent you to somewhere else but i but i'm i'm 18 and i live on my yeah i don't know dude i probably would be like you're not my daughter i don't know because i'm just like

what like i would have had i would have this is going to sound mean but i would have had to have failed as a father that like I would my lead like my daughter would even think that that's an option right I think so that like there's just so many other I feel like there's so many other ways if we talk about the internet there's so many other ways to make money to live a comfortable life to be happy that doesn't require giving your body up to that extend or that to that dad this is my passion yeah I mean fuck I okay so we're role playing out you know thanks study sex is great too I I remember I love I still love it, but maybe it's a little more private. But maybe it's a little more private.

You ever think, keep it a little more special? Dad, I just love getting my holes out on the internet. I like old creepy men, whining him to me. Wow, yeah, that's a, I don't even know what I would say. I'm trying to like... This is the thing. Like, people comment my parents so much and it's like, they're just, they're doing life the first time as well. And like, I feel like people put so much pressure on my parents.

It's like, dude, I'm a 20. three-year-old woman like I can do what I want and everything I do is because of me you know what I mean I just hate when people come from my parents it really I don't mind hate about me but you know when people talk about your family and say your parents have screwed up and shit like that and it's just like that's not nice because that's what I'm saying like the inverse though kind of happens when in doing this it's like you're that's like it's funny that that's the one thing you don't like that's the interesting thing but I just love my family so you kind of do care about other people but they got to be your family.

Oh, my family and my friends, I would do anything for them. What if they said stop? But they would know that that would make me miserable. None of them have ever said stop. That would just, like, make me so miserable. So why would they do that? Fuck.

Dustin, we're really trying over here, I swear. It's also like, look it from this perspective, like not the, I mean, I enjoy this and things like that, but like, if I stop now, I would still be the girl who's fucked 100 dudes. Oh, no, you're fucked. You're screwed. You're screwed now.

But like you could have. I may as well now, just. Yeah, but like you could have the whole point, the whole point is obviously you're not going to, we can't rewrite your history, but the whole point is to have the conversation about it to be like, is this the best fit? Like is this for people to be like, yeah, that's a good thing to go do. And obviously you said earlier, you know, there's there's downfalls or pitfalls to it. That's not necessarily a good thing. But that's the only reason why I'm having the conversation because obviously I can't change your past. No one can change your past. It's just more about having the conversation in general to talk about the fact that, I just feel like the world is going to fucking shit. And this is not you specifically. Porn, only fans. There's just so much shit. It's like,

I also find it so interesting because people are having such a hard time just like getting by and living. And I'm just like, who are these people? Where are they getting this money to fucking give all these random chicks money? Like, it's just like we're just destroying our fucking.

We're just destroying society. So it's really funny though. Some of the guys are. Sorry, where you are, not me. I don't know. I'm not. You are.

Some of the guys are like, this is their problem though like some of the guys yeah but it's like a crack head it's like yo bro stop smoking crack but there's crack everywhere check it out and it's like yo but you shouldn't smoke the crack but then there's just crack everywhere but then speak but crack is illegal porn and alcohol isn't so speak of it as an alcoholism yeah but that doesn't mean that it's good like fucking alcohol shit is it's just another that's the whole problem right is like alcohol porn all this stuff is not good for people and everyone knows that it's not good for people. Like it's a the addiction of it is not good. Even social media we could talk

about it's not a good thing where it's like this constant validation or not validation. There's pros and cons. No, there's just there's there's not though. It's like it's it's it's not a good thing. It's a thing though that people have created. Oh, it's just accepted. Yeah. And that's kind of what we're I'm trying to speak to. Porn and only fans get banned tomorrow. No, no, no, no. But then things are getting more like things will get worse. It's like when when when people ban abortion. people are then only going to get like illegal abortions and it makes it so much more unsafe. You're better like actually making porn safe and regulating it than you are banning it. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I hear what you're trying to say. It's tough because it's also like it's the government and it's this. Like it's not it's not one person's problem or you can't point the finger at one person. It's tricky. I mean, it's, it's, uh, but like if I stopped, you know, like, if I stopped only fans tomorrow, they're only going to go bry and cuff to another person. Like, it's not, no, that's what, but that's what I'm speaking to, right? Obviously, like, this isn't a just you problem. Like, I don't want you to make, I don't want to make you feel like I'm attacking

you specifically, but it's just the, the world and the way it's set up. It's just, it's like, it seems like people are just, I don't disagree that there are things that we need to change. but I don't I don't think I don't think it's all bad I don't think like you should just send the asteroids you know what I mean I feel like we need it I feel like we need that I feel like we need asteroid just reset restart get the dinosaurs back up here they're doing a better job they got yeah they got to do us like the dinosaurs man I don't because like are we bringing this shit to Mars with us like what's going on oh my god but then like have you heard have you heard we're going Mars. I would love to be the first person to get fucked on Mars. I text that to like, Elon.

I'm sure you probably tweeted that one, huh? Yeah. Well, he's got that, is it Starlink? Yeah, Elon, let me aboard. I want to make a fucking porn video that. Yeah, then you have Kai Snat saying he wants to be the first streamer and then there's you saying you want to be the first having sex. It's like, bro. We're just all, you know, creatures. I think we're fucked. I think we're fucked. I think total collapse. I give it like 10 years. We're screwed. Financially, everything. I think we're screwed. It's like, then what? But that's what I'm saying.

Like, we're adding to it. I'm trying to, like, unadd to it. I'm trying to my best. Yeah, trying to make the world one bit better again. Yeah. It's maybe a little nihilistic, a little like no hope in my mind, kind of. Because when I think about it, it's just like, like you said, it obviously is the person who's choosing what they're doing with their life.

And you can't make people choose just because you think it's a bad idea. But I don't know. I just go back to the crack thing. It's like, man, if it's there, these crackheads are using it. And they're just going to make. their life worse until they realize oh wait maybe i should stop and then maybe it's too late and i'm not is it not in the sense of porn but it's just everything like we're just down this rabbit hole it's nuts man i just i don't know maybe i took too many shrooms i know you probably like going to it yeah i don't know what's

going on i like it this is like 4 a sash kind of conversations yeah did it turn you on or what Hold on a sec. I can't be, I can't be one of the ones. I can't do it. It's not even looking at me in the eye anymore. Yeah, no. My,

my, my, I just couldn't do it, dude. I don't think I. Really? What if you were you were number one? Nah.

Just because I know there's more after. I'm like, I feel like you'd secretly do it though. The thing is you can't, you can't have any disguise because you're so big and like, you're so just like, distinguish like your, your shape.

I post too much over the years. People would, people would ducts you. People would like, that's bradley yeah they see the hand tattoo yeah it's just wouldn't no i couldn't never do it man i just couldn't i don't know it's nuts so what do you do like in your free time do you just like you know i work so like i don't really you don't have normal life things i have a dog so i walk my dog a lot what's your dog thing about what you do oh he's probably pretty disappointed

no because like how else where is she living she's fucking living it up what do you mean like money again yeah no there it is Those are all the little, the little, there it is. Oh, God, we really tried, man. So when you see the people and they talk all the shit about you, because obviously some people are going to see this, talk shit about you, talk shit in the comments. You know, the Manosphere, the Red Pill guys, they're all talking shit.

What do you have to say to Myron? Because I know he probably hates you. Please tweet me more. It makes me go so much more viral and then puts me out to more guys. And then more guys watch my porn. I'm not going to lie. gets me off. I'm not going to lie. Part of me felt bad even doing the interview. Because you're you're adding to it. Exactly. Because you're promoting me at the end of time. Exactly.

There was a part of me that I was going to, like, last minute I was like, should I not do this? I'm going to cancel. You're going to get canceled. No, no. I just thought I could get through to you. And that was not, that was not happening. But this has been a productive conversation. It hasn't been, you haven't been siding with me. No, I could never. I couldn't. I couldn't. My soul would not let me. just wouldn't let me man we'll see about that later no no there's no when when the cameras go off he'll be all over it no and then he's zero chance zero chance I can't do it baby let me be wanting them where a thousand no I can never never never steiny though steamy I was gonna have him on the pod would he fuck me I actually think that he probably 100 he's gonna hate that I'm saying this

but I think he would yeah yeah I think he would why why do you think he would because he's like a little, he, he is one of them guys that would turn up to my life, like he, he looks like a few of them. Fuck. No, no. He's just like, I feel like he'll take anything he gets. That sounds a bit mean, actually, I was coming out of my mouth. But like, no, but he's kind of a bit more chill with like, only fans, girls, doesn't he? And like, porn stars and I feel like he watches porn. Like you, you obviously say you don't watch porn, but he definitely does. Yeah, I think he does. I don't know, man. I hope he's good.

Hope he's doing great. I know he's at the inauguration. That's good. How do you feel about our politics here in the US? To my honest, I haven't really kept up with it. Yeah. I heard Trump is coming in.

Yeah. I just want TikTok back because while I'm here, I can't fucking get TikTok. Yeah, well, that's a whole interesting conversation in of itself. They did the whole little finesse where they were like, it was weird. Is it coming back? It's already back. Oh, really?

Yeah. It's been what? It took like 19 hours and they're like, oh, it's back. And then I guess it's going to be back. for another 90 days so they figure out what to do with it but yeah man i don't know what the who's who do you like who do i like as far as what um is this bad to talk about politics i mean i don't really talk about politics but no i want to trump to win oh really yeah yeah um we've heard he's really bad you've heard he's bad yeah i mean i do to my side i don't really keep up with it like

yeah what do you what do you hear that he's bad like what are the in the uk what do they know that he's bad for uh just lots of like racist stuff huh I don't know. I don't, but this is the thing. You all know about that one, right? I don't mind that though. Okay. Yeah, respect.

To my side, I don't, I don't do my research, so I can't really talk on it. It's not something for me to. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't really get into so much political shit, because I don't know all the details of it. I just know it seems like we're just headed to fucking all fucking hell. Yeah, that's what it feels like. Mars, it is. What's that?

Mars it is. The fuck does that mean? Mars, it is. it is. I thought you said some other shit, some like some new case slang that I was not aware of. But even when it's Mars, it's like, it's still the same people. We're going there. It's degenerate. Well, what if we did? You want to fuck on Mars? No, but what if we did like a test of like the best people can only go to Mars? Yes. That's, dude, we should leave. Sorry, you're going to have to stay here. All the only fans, girls, all the pollen stars, all the streamers can all go to Mars. Dude, it'd be utopia. It'd be like utopia. Why don't we just segregate people? Like, let's get back.

to that. Let's get back to that. Now we're talking the same language. No, like, it's honestly it would be a funny experiment. Like, if we just like only certain people, we let them up there, honestly. But I don't think you realize that some people have got the masks on. For sure. No, but I was going to say, I think that's what they're trying to do anyways, Loki. They're trying to just like put the really smart people up that. Yeah, I don't know. And I'll be chilling down here until it implodes. Yeah, they're going to leave. They're going to let the meteor land directly on you but um no as far as the the mass thing you mentioned what do you mean by that well i was talking to like my assistants and stuff like that about obviously all the christian guys messaging me and things

like that and my assistant was basically like christians are like the number one watches and buyers of porn and like i think a lot of people pretend like they preach god but they're real like freaks incest when it comes down to it so you're yeah you're talking about the people who are like the most virtuous signaling are like the dirtiest sort of like they're actually behind the scenes doing yeah like pedophiles yeah fucked up shit that's i mean to be honest that's how i feel not i'm not talking about christians at all in this conversation but that's how i feel about just government i feel like it's all just like a facade you know they fucking chat a lot waffle yeah like it's all this guy's bad that guy's bad this guy's good but it's like they're bad

themselves it's all going in the same direction regardless because you know people always argue about who's in control and who's in power and it's like it's whether it's that guy or this guy, it's, it's, it seems to be like, it seems like the same people regardless are going in that direction and it's going to be what they want it to be. And that's what right when I, we started talking about the TikTok thing is like, that that seems more than anything of like, okay, the reason why the app was really banned was just because they didn't have full control over it the way that they wanted to. And now that they seems like they're figuring it out. Really? I didn't see, obviously I didn't look into it because it's

only America that's game band in. But I didn't realize it was that. Yeah, I mean, they control, you know, or they have their ability to control, you know, YouTube, all these other platforms. And I think that was like the sort of not only the biggest platform and the fastest growing platform for like the lower, the lower, excuse me, the newer generation. But I think it feels like they didn't have as much control over sort of the narrative or what's said or what isn't said. And that's kind of why it came to this closing point of like, all right, we're going to shut it down. and now like now maybe they're maybe conceding a bit and going to sell it or whatever it's going to be or whoever's going to be in control because they'll have more control here right of the platform jesus that's what it feels like yeah because they you know they just

that's what they want is control disguised it as like yeah this is america that i think it's so bad though like even with your guys food it's so much more carolific and so much more like disgusting chemicals in it than it is in england and it's the same stuff like you take a bagel from either country and your guys has got so much more shit in it and it's at the end of the day to control your guys because your guys' health care is expensive

So see now we're talking the same language so this is when it's going to get interesting right? I did nutrition some Yeah no that's for one lecture No no no but you're absolutely right I mean that's the sad part like recently they just They just banned this sort of chemical Like a dye

It's red four I think it is But there's like blue five yellow five red four Red 7 red 40 like whatever all these different sort of chemicals that they just identified one and we're like this one's causing cancer and people have been lobbying against this for 30 years that it is doing that and they've now just recently been like yeah that one causes cancer we're banning it but there's also like a hundred other things that do the same thing and yeah it's a weird thing and that's why even when we start talking about this stuff is like they're all forms of different forms of control that

that's being allowed essentially because this this you know, know the thing that I was getting at is like this pornography stuff is a different version of the same sort of control or detriment to people because it keeps people lack of motivation dumb fucking living off the dopamine high and not focus on things that they could actually make their lives better people around them better the thing is though but if if you were to ban only fans we would all go back to porn hub and with porn hob what comes is pimps and managers and then it's men controlling us taking the same shit though on only fans But that doesn't happen with only fans because you get to be your own own creator.

Like I don't have any kind of management or anyone above me. I get to choose what content I make and no one else like takes any money from me. I outsource all my staff and things like that. And so it just means that I get full control whereas like if I'm back on, you know, if I go to a porn set then someone's managing me taking a coach telling me what to do. There's still tons of people that like. And it's unethical. Like at the end of the day I think only fans is so much more ethical porn and people

pay for it. So it means them that, like, you can't have a bit of a limit to what you're watching. You know, if you've gone porn hub, you could spend hours and hours and hours, days watching porn. So there's so much for free on there. With only fans, like, there is a limit that obviously you can buy and shit like that. And so I think it has a bit more, makes it a bit more ethical. I personally think, especially for the creators. It's way more ethical for us girls. Yeah, but we're talking about two separate things. You're talking about for you and your ability to monetize it versus not being controlled. The thing that I'm speaking to is just the way it's controlling the population.

Right. And that's, you know, I get it. You don't care about it, which is fine. It's not, huh. Well, it is. I don't, but I, I generally don't think it's doing that bad. I think it's destroying people. I don't think so.

But then it's destroying, like, dating families, everything. This is not just like, I get it. Like, I'm not saying that that that single thing is doing it, but it's the, it's the effect of it that's happening, like, all the way. life act exactly like you mentioned earlier and we're talking about you know the banning of this thing and you know specifically in america how it's like why is the same stuff in where you're at or in australia or in some other country where it's completely separate ingredients why is it all it's oh it's all just here and we're just allowing ourselves to just be fucked and controlled it's tricky because there's not a right answer there's not a like we don't really know no one knows what to do you know what i mean

I think people do. I think the people at the top who are controlling these platforms, only fans, whatever, porn hub, all these things. I think they don't give a fuck. And I think it doesn't matter because it makes some money. But then like I said earlier, like if you were to ban porn, ban all sex work, then all us girls would move to the streets. And there'd be seedy men getting STIs, would be like prostitutes on the streets. Like it would make it so much more unhealthy and so much more. Or it would make the sort of family unit be revitalized and people would have to actually like...

No, because then people would be cheating. Like, people, like, there would. People would then just go to cheating with other people and stuff like that. At least if people are watching Onlyfans, it's not really cheating or watching porn. That's funny. Okay. I'm saving marriages out here. You know?

No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Yeah, it's just, I don't know, man. But there's no right. answer and even as an only fan's dog i i recognize that like i'm not i'm not saving the world i'm not a philanthropist or anything like that i know you just fuck the world as long as your dog is good you're able to eat the food i care about my family and my friends yeah that's what i'm saying

fuck the rest of them now but that's but no but that's how it feels like that's how it it seems like i guess the whole overarching thing that i'm kind of talking about is like community in general and like working and being in sort of harmony with each other is just like those days are dead and it feels it's sad because I feel like that's could be the most beneficial thing for the world and overall but we it would just never be like that I has been like that I think though no but you you think you think the older times were the better times but it I don't necessarily think the older times were the better times but I think there was just more I don't know more more unity because there was less people being like, well, I'm doing this for me.

Isn't that when they used to torture people and like have slaves? Which at what time? Like back then. I can't give you a date. I'm not a history girl. Different times. That was definitely time that that was a thing. But that's like a whole,

that's a, but that's another version of something that is fucked up that makes someone money and take it, they take advantage. That's the like it's just, this is a new age version of it. This is a new. It's a different sort.

Wow. And there's that guy at the top who's going, I'm running all that money up and I don't give a fuck what happened. anyone and so it's the same concept it's the slave owner guy's like i don't care i'm my shit's good my family's good that's all that matters that's what i'm saying with those are the two like like ideas that were that are like bad like it's not one's good and it's like good and evil it's just you know it's way more normalized and we talk about alcohol it's more normalized because it's normal and people drink and that's normal but it's like is this actually good for anyone

yeah it's interesting i don't know because it's just something to talk about you know yeah No, no, no, no, no, no. Now we're getting through there, bro. No, no, no. Holy shit. You know how I said at the start, like, I don't think a lot. Like, you know how you're saying, like, this is affecting so many people. Yeah. Like, I was just doing my thing. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just out here.

I know. I know. You, who cares? Fuck them. And I think that's, no, but that's the thing. I've never thought, like, I'm fucking up people. I'm just doing my thing. And the thing is when I have conversations with fans and things like that, like, all I

here is positiveness. Yeah, but that's, that's normal. Like, those are the people, they're not going to come up and shit on you in real life. they're they're they're they're also unknowing the sort of detriment that's there they're just like yeah this is good because that that felt good when i fucking wanked it so it's good you're good i don't think they've recognized it's like maybe this isn't a good thing for me yet because it is so normalized so that's that's that's the whole point is like it's so normalized and it's so normalized and it's so normal and why not and she does it and he does it whatever who cares but it's like we're

we're just destroying the sort of do you think you add to it I guess even having me on this, you add to it. Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier. That's why I had that conversation with myself where I was like, man, is this something I want to do? And I was like, I think I want to have this conversation regardless. So, because I don't think I'm in any way trying to be like, yeah, you should be doing it. I'm better.

Like, I don't think I'm better than anyone, no. But I think, I think in this case, I'm, I would rather people. I'm going to say in this case, I am just a bit better. No, that would have been funny. I thought about that for a second, but, you know, I'm not better than someone. And I just, I think, in this case with you and I, I think what I'm, because when you talk, it's like, I'm good, I'm good. I'm trying to make it about, you know, this concept of everyone else and the repercussions of it that are, you know, sometimes not direct, not direct, but it's real. It's a real thing.

And that's, that's honestly why I wanted to have the conversation just to see if even thought of it. But if not, you know, it's just like, I had. You're just like, fuck it. Oh, God. That's why I can't. It's just weird to me, because I guess I've always kind of done shit like this, like, obviously not a fuck time, 100 guys, but like I've done stuff like this off camera and so like I've never really, like everyone, when I've done it off camera, I've just enjoyed it and we've had a great day. And it's only until I put it on camera, then people have a problem with it. Yeah, well, because now, now obviously you open it up to everyone to have their sort of opinions about it or what they think and people like me who think, you know, oh, this isn't good and, you know, it's also like very, it's a taboo thing to be like, you know, it's a, it's not annoying.

thing to talk about or to like put out there either like this is but in my order it is like this is the thing when I guess when I started the porn industry I didn't want to do porn because I was always preached that you know you can't be in a non monogamous relationship like you have to be monogamous is that the right word like a single yeah like you you have to just like kind of stick to one guy and things like that and so I didn't I didn't realize how open minded people were and like-minded people were like me. And so then that's when I felt so safe to then be able to do porn and stuff like that because I met so many people in the industry that were so like-minded. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's obviously the different conversation

people who are in it and doing it versus like the way, you know, some random fucking kid or guys in Minnesota wasting all his money and fucking wank into, you know, that's just, I'm kind of, you're speaking to that. I'm speaking to like everyone else and how it affects them. But at the end of day, people are probably not even aware of, like, the detriment to themselves. So just because it is so validated that it's normal and, you know, we can go in circles. Yeah, we admit to go on forever. Yeah. But I'm trying.

I've really fine boys. I swear I'm trying. You send me some good questions? All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.

So I'll ask you, oh, God. So this is what you thought. I know. This is what people want to know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Okay, so Justin, so Justin, so justin wants to know if he can get his cop sucked. I love Justin. My producer came up with some questions. He, he, per, this isn't for science. This is for his purposes. Right. That's what they all say. So, okay. Justin,

Justin, Justin wanted to know how long do guys usually last? Oh, if you're talking about normies. Yeah, however you want to answer that. I didn't write the questions. Justin did. He wants to know how long he should last. Penetrive. I'm assuming he means that. Yeah. Two, three minutes. okay but obviously when you fuck the porn guys you're fucking for like 40 minutes yeah because it's like a fucking production yeah yeah yeah okay worst experience in bed probably the micropinus because I couldn't actually fuck it because it was that form well you know what if you have a micropinus I'm just gonna say this like just learn to get

good at pleasing your girl and no one will care like orally yeah yeah yeah yeah like just do stuff to your girl and she'll be happy cool shout out to those guys yeah i didn't want to put them down yeah what makes a guy good in bed oh um i think that energy i'm not gonna lie you threw me through a loop with that one because you energy is the last thing i thought you'd ever give a fuck about no you know and you're like look into each other's eyes and like you're on the same wavelength like obviously you can have different types of sex whether that's like really rough like your souls are in your time and like you're no see This is where you're missing.

It's really missing me right here. No, because that's what we're describing now. You're just vibing. Like, it's just the vibe. Like, the energy.

Yeah. The body of the soul. You're just on the same wavelength like you guys are. That's a little, I don't know, a little contradictory. That's all I'm going to say on that one. Zip at you.

What's this white stain here? What is that? That's probably from my dog. My dogs come in here sometimes when I stream. I'll stream back. there and they'll hang out here. And he's like, you didn't see him. You'll meet him on the way out, but one has like really slobbery. Oh, cutie. That's not what you think it is. What's bringing out on you? I mean, you're a professional, is it? No. No, no, no, no.

Scratch and sniff. Dog slobber. Okay. Did all 100 men come? No. Probably like 80. So does it count then? What do you mean? If you, if you have sex to someone, don't come, it still counts now. Otherwise, my body count would be at about 10. So what? Wait, what? Only 10 of them came? No, no, no.

I'm saying, like, you said, obviously, does it even count if they, if they didn't come? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, of course, sex still counts if you don't come. No, it's different for girls. It's different for girls. For guys. But I think about 80 probably came. 80.

Yeah, but they had a time limit. So, like, some of the pressure. Some of them, like, couldn't even get hard because it was just like, yeah. Well, yeah, because it's a weird fucking thing. And their souls are like, they're probably like last minute. Why did I fucking come here? Okay, sorry. Okay.

Justin also wanted to know, what's your biggest turn on? Oh, right. What is my biggest turn on? It can really, I like it, it changes daily. Spunk. right now like seeing it i like when a guy wanks and their spunk light drips on the hand oh my god dude he's okay um this one's hilarious this is actually this funny this question this next one's actually really funny because i i think about this one a lot lights on or off off but like

dim lighting i'd say a lamp a couple lamps i'm pretty used to having i'm pretty used to having sex in front of like something like this though but but no lights because you're ashamed no because like it lights off it's like I don't have to what do you mean no no just like mood lighting okay all right I was wrong I was wrong on that uh favorite body part on yourself oh I've just got my butt done so maybe my you got injections no no I got BBL okay what's the difference so they take the fat from like from my legs and put it in my eyes okay I'm not a fan at I'm just it doesn't matter you'll see it doesn't look bad it's a bad BBL. It's just like, I can show. No, no, you don't have to show us. Thank you. Most memorable place you've done it. At a concert in the crowd. What the fuck? Concert was that?

It was at a festival. I think it was Dave. And we, I didn't even get his name. And we were just dancing on each other. I didn't speak to them. The artist's name was Dave or the guy. No, no, sorry, Dave was the performer. Dave was the perform. What kind of music? music is that um i don't know i was quite fucked um what kind you were drunk rap yeah i was drunk you were drunk okay but um didn't even speak to him didn't even really turn around he was just like we were just like dancing each other you know when you like dance upon someone like grinding yeah and then like almost go up and fucked him never never spoke again i couldn't tell you what his face is like that is wow where how how we can get here

Um, most, okay, sorry, that I asked that. I feel like, this one's dumb now. It's like, what's your ultimate fantasy? Like, I feel like you just you do it or? What's my ultimate fantasy? I love a bookecking. Oh my God. I hate that I know what that is.

That's all I'll say. Have you ever been with a girl? I feel like that's easy. Yeah, I'd date a girl. Like you had a fallen relationship or? Like, no, no, like dates. Oh. So you wouldn't take a girl serious?

I would. Okay. you would like have a full on relationship yeah yeah i'd marry a girl wow there'd be a lot fucking easy to go on with wow okay um long this is a good question longest you've ever gone without sex well one to 18 not one to 17 no no no no like longest time not like not like you know you're eight that's oh um like since you i'm assuming since you started like a couple weeks I wasn't expecting that answer I would be honest

I thought it was gonna be that couple hours like a day is that rude I'm sorry no no no no I thought like sometimes I'm on my period and people don't like oh I figure you would be fine I actually got I actually got

I know who cares about that I actually got surgery down there so I had to not have sex for a little bit but I had sex like do you find a lot of guys care about the period thing um if if I'm obviously I'm not anyone's like girlfriend or anything. So like some guys do you care. Got it. Got it. Okay. Those are good questions. Those are

all from Justin, by the way. Those are not my question. Those are great questions. Do you have any more? Those are fucking, dude, the lights on one is really interesting because that's, that's when I like the lights on. What do you mean like shame? No, I just because you're like your soulless. So it's like if the lights were off, you wouldn't have to worry as much about seeing yourself there. I don't really think about it much. But like I think, I think the lights off is just sexier. No. Like a dim light. Yeah. That's what I'm. mean but not like yeah this is a lot of light yeah but i'm not much of a moral in sex person so like i think that goes with like late at night like it's ever it's just like hornyer

late at night now and like things are dark i just like to yeah i get it i get it i just like to see you know yeah yeah yeah more visual i guess i think that's the thing with guys though they're more visual like i could sit there and just close my eyes and pretty much like it yeah no we could tell you've done have you done that is that what you did with the 100? You know what? Me and my ex-boyfriend used to do this thing where we'd like, not blindfold each other, but just like, go onto the cover so I couldn't see anything, eyes closed and then I'd picture someone else while you'd like, get me head. He called mystery head, but we'd openly talk about it. Like, we're doing mystery head tonight.

And like, so I wouldn't talk to him. Like, if I stuck his stick, I wouldn't talk to him, put the cover over me, he closed his eyes, then he could like imagine it with someone else. What the fuck, dude? It's just so, the disc can. is the thing that's so interesting. It's like you don't, you, you. No, but that's just like a bit of fun, no. Like, you can just. Thinking about someone else while someone else is with you.

It's just a bit of fun. Yeah. Like, as well, we, we would have like three sins and stuff like that. So it's not, it's not deep. What does that guy think about what you're doing now? Probably think it's great. I don't really know. I twice haven't spoken to him about it.

Why did that? Well, he said congratulations about the 100. Why did that not work out? Do you think that relationship? Um, Too many mystery hands? No, he cheated on me, so. And you care about that?

I thought you wouldn't care. You don't care about anything. No, I care about dishonesty. So if he was like... I wouldn't mind someone fucking someone else, as long as they were honest. So if the guy was like, hey, I'm going to go have sex with this other girl. You'd be like, all right, if you were okay with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's the dishonesty. It's the hiding secret. Because then the trust goes. Yeah. You know what I mean? And you care about that. I'm not soulless. Wait, what?

Are you sure? Well, you don't want to keep so down the soul of us. Oh, no. There's just weird how there's certain things. When you said the energy thing, I was like, I'm not buying this shit now. What? How do you operate off energy? But like, even in porn, like you get any, of course, like sex is energy.

No, keep going. Keep going. This is important. Even in porn, like, I get people's energy. And like, I think that's what makes the scene good. If you guys are on the same wavelength, it doesn't matter like what kind of sex you're having, but just like you're on the same vibe. I can't explain it.

Even watching it? watching porn i don't think you really get energy from watching porn now i think you do i think that's one of the most detrimental things because imagine imagine the dude is like to some guy like i just had like a quick wank and it's like yeah that was that was hot still he's still like eliciting sexual energy to like fucking get his thing going and let it off you know it's just that's a nasty energy through a screen this artificial and i'm like looking at someone else have sex and then it's just weird no because it's just it's just porn like it's just like yeah i don't i don't see

things are going great so deep no things are going great in the world right now right everything's everything's great as long as you got money i think i know but i just think i'm such like a positive person like you kind of seem a little bit like no offense no go ahead i've kind of low key disrespected you the whole time so you can do it unpositive like everything's going to shit and like this shit and that's shit real to me i no no no i see it like social media is a great way to connect like i love talking to people and stuff like that yeah and like i've met some such nice people through social media and things like that and i think i just see stuff so positively and like for me what porn's done for me gets me off

enjoys it obviously love making it like it's it's just everything and so like and i think you're just a little bit unpositive about these topics yeah yeah about like I like TikTok. I fucking love TikTok. No, I like TikTok. It's right in the brain. No, but is it not in some ways? You don't think it is? No. I think also I've grown up with it.

I've grown up with social media. So like I guess it's what I'm used to. Yeah, no, it makes sense. I haven't. Yeah, you're 23, you said? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. I wonder what, I wonder what like 35, 40 year old Lily Phillips is going to like look back and be like,

crushed it. hell yeah i really i really i really wonder what she's going to think the thing like i mean like i said earlier like everything happens for a reason yeah so i think i'll look back and be happy with i i want to talk to i hopefully i let's have a future podcast let's hook one in for 20 years 100% if i if i'm still doing this if i'm not god willing i'm i'm not fucking dead hopefully um i would love to see how this ages yeah like genuinely it would be fun i also write a lot of letters to myself I guess it's like a manifestation thing. I like to write to myself.

Like for this, I was like, I hope to the fuck a hundred people and shit like that. No joke. Wow. What about like, I hope to do good in the world and, you know. This is doing good. No, okay. I'm joking. No, what about like writing other things?

It's not because you, you know, you're able to pull it off. What else my, like, ambitions that I've wrote down? It's more just career stuff, if I'm honest. I also, I like to run and things like that. And so, like, it's been about that, a bit. Running? Running. Yeah.

What do you think about when you run? I don't think. I'll just listen to music. Maybe that's my problem. I don't think. I don't think enough. But then I think that's why I'm so positive because I don't think life's just good. You're like a dog.

They're like a bitch. Well, that's a female dog. Sorry. Just forever this point. That's actually like how my friends, you know, me and my friends like at school, obviously, do you ever like put your friends into category? It's like who they'd be like. that you're the mom of the group, you're the dad of the group. I'm the dog of the group.

No joke, 100% they said that. Just humping everything. Fucking marking territory everywhere. Got my lipstick out every chance I got. Oh my God. Well, hopefully I wasn't too mean to you. No, no, no. I've enjoyed it.

Like, I love how different podcasts are. Like, I went to Ryan Powell's one. And he's like, so energetic shouting. And I love that. Like, I feel like I feed off people's energy. So, like, when I come to yours, it's a bit more like, we're going to get a bit deeper and like talk about some more like them and stuff and do this and yours has been quite like long and calm and it's nice like it's just nice to do different things I love it thank you for

I have so many other jokes to make I'm just not going to make them um do you have any questions for me oh can I can I ask you about your come up absolutely yeah how how did you get into it because you're huge on social media but like no offense sorry go yeah say whatever you want I didn't find you till maybe like a year ago. Yeah. But how did you get there? Because like I just found you obviously, I think it was through maybe someone's stream or something or another.

Yeah. And I was like, whoa, this guy's got so many followers. Yeah. And you're really good looking. You're very well built and shit like that. You seem very successful. Thank you. How did you get into it?

Well, like I told you the story earlier about being a trainer. I was a trainer my whole life. I was just into fitness. So I, like none of this was. what it is today, this whole social media stuff. I'm 35. So generationally, Instagram was like just starting. And I was a big time nerd. This is probably when I used to wank it a lot more. But I was always on the internet. Yeah, he was nerd. And I would always play video games, some of the stuff over here and stuff that I would watch. I'd play World of Warcraft a lot.

And I, I played a ton of different video games, but I spent a lot of time on the internet. Were you ugly back then? Were you like ugly and fat? No, I was skinny. Oh, really? Yeah, I was skinny. I was always a little taller, but now I was skinny. So I wasn't like bigger. So you know what they say about skinny guys? What do they say about skinny guys?

Biggest cards. Man, I mean, this is, uh... Sorry, carry on. No, yeah, I won't speak on that. Anyways, so I was a huge nerd and I was just really into playing video games, like complete degenerate. Like, I would play so many hours. And I got into the gym. And then that was like the second thing in my life

that I really loved. I liked video games and working out. And for me, it was about escaping sort of my reality. I had a kind of tougher childhood. I lost my father when I was six to suicide. And I used all these things as like an escape. And I got really good at them.

And then the gym was the one that when I found it 15, very seriously at 17, I was like, oh, this makes me able to, because when I'm doing it, I'm able to avoid all these other thoughts that I would have about my life or my self-worth or you know who I was or where I was going to be and what my life is going to be like and what's

the point of all this shit because I was so obsessed very young with mortality because my father died and I was always kind of like what does this mean? Oh, what does life mean? Yeah, what's the purpose? Like, you know, when you first find out your dad, like your mom's like, yeah, your dad's and I'm like, what the fuck does, because I was six and everything prior to that is everything's temporary. Yeah. And then you learn this and you're like, what the fuck are you taught? Like, what does that mean like the person that you know obviously is my father i would that would see them tomorrow why would i not and so then i had to come to that that realization that like oh he's gone forever so the idea that idea always just like rocked me where i was like i don't know what what that

we may as well just die now if we're going to die and so i would always think like what's what am i like how am i going to die and how is my life going to play out and and who am i and what like what's the purpose of all of this shit so i started really young being obsessed with that kind of stuff and thinking about that. And so I would find certain things that would allow me to escape that thought and video games, because you know, you're in it and it's fun.

And then maybe that's why I have this whole perspective about all this sort of shit. It's like escaping your sort of reality to, you know, something that feels better in the moment, but it's not actually making you better. Right. And so I'd play a lot of video games and how I found the internet was,

I remember I was like, I downloaded fucking TikTok and like, excuse me, excuse me, I downloaded Twitter in like 2008. Oh, wow. Was it even a right? Because like Instagram started in like 2011 or 12. Instagram started at the end of 2010. Right.

And that's when I got on it. I got on it because I would spend so much time on the video game. And I remember thinking, I want to be able to do these things that I love, much like you, a little different. We do have something in common. Yeah. I wanted like, because I enjoyed it so much. I was like, I want to be able to do this and make a living.

Because I would also look at, you know, all the other examples in my life of people that would kind of like, I grew up in sort of a small town just outside of San Francisco. would just like grow up and then stay in the town. Of course. And I was like, I don't want this. Yeah. So I was like always on the internet because I spent so much time playing video games on the internet.

Halo, World of Warcraft, Unreal Tournament, all these different like computer games. And then obviously Xbox, Halo. And I would go on the internet and I would search like, I don't know how I got into this, but like there was a website. I don't even know if it's still a website. Can you check? It's called CNET. Like, cnet.com.

I don't know, S-E-N-E-T. No, S, sorry, sorry, C and then N-E-T. I've never heard of this. So it's not the same site. Wait, no, it is similar. So this site used to be years ago, it was like all like business stuff and like what was coming and like social media and things that were happening. Like, as far as like, I guess sort of technology was advancing in business. And so I would get on the site all the time and I would read about like what's coming.

And obviously this is like a TikTok thing. here but um i remember reading about instagram was coming and i and i i was basically like first on all these apps oh so i started instagram when it came out and at the time i was just the trainer and i was just posting like body pick yeah this before there was no videos you were like the original yeah fitness instagram influencer yeah that's insane so that's that's that's essentially my story was in regards have you had the same instagram since you were yeah really yeah i've had a few ones that got deleted because of fucking copyright stuff. But I've had the same Instagram since. It was basically since 2011, beginning in 2011. And I would just post like at the time

I was a trainer. So I had clients that I had worked with for years at that point. And I'd post like their transformations. And I'd post me like selfies and stuff. But there was no videos. And then when videos came out, that's when I started to go viral because like I was like people like the way that I looked. Yeah. And then they like that I was like strong and able to do sort of athletic things like jumping out of a pool and all these like different sort of like feats of strength. Yeah, yeah. And so I took off very early on the app. Right. So you just got in there early. Yeah. You quite like a slow burner then. You didn't do anything crazy to go like viral. You just not really. That's not exactly. So yes. But then I started to do really crazy content that went way more

viral once I started to involve, uh, women in my content. So I started to lift women like crazy lifts like dead lifts or squats on the shoulders. You always know that like women are always going to get like a few more views. Yeah. So I'm just as bad as you. It's crazy. That's the thing. It's like I'm not just different.

It's obviously porn's different. But yeah, no, I obviously recognized really early that like, okay, I look to what people thought they thought I looked good and I was able to be strong. And then I started showcasing that. And then I started showcasing me doing that with like women like lifting them and all the different kind of lifts you could think of squats, overhead pressing, all kinds of shit. And then that went really viral. So I went involved with that for years.

And then you got into like kind of more streamers world. Yeah. Well, and then I went to YouTube. Yeah. And I met at the time one of the most popular YouTubers, you know, Fusey Tube, Yousef? No, sorry. Oh, damn. He's one of the, oh, geez.

But he was really fat and I helped him lose a bunch of weight. No way. Yeah. That's sick. And then I had a YouTube channel with like 25,000 subscribers with like no, this is way back in the day. So I'm going to spend like 2014. 2015 and then I went I just started making content there still making content on

Instagram and I just I've never stopped and then eventually I started doing the podcast stuff now that we're doing obviously um but yeah it was it was a long I love to hear about people's come up because it's always so interesting to hear like what because I always think everyone who has done quite well has been really smart about it like what is it that like you thought to like make you go viral or you know like you kind of excelled in and things like that. Yeah. You were just like a real OG, like just grinded from the start.

Yeah. And I guess why I have these conversations and I sound like maybe I'm like an asshole or whatever he was because I noticed the thing that made me most popular besides the viral moments, the thing that made me like not most popular because the viral moments made me more popular than these other moments that I'm going to describe. But the things that gave me sort of a fan base that lasted for a very long time. Because you got to think, it's, it's been almost 15 years. years I've been on the internet making content and I've sustained a fan base a lot of people who are

now fucking they were at once like 20 now they're 30 or they were fucking 18 now they're fucking 30 like it's a it's a crazy amount of time and the the sort of feedback that I would get from those people is like yo because I would film videos talking about working out but then I would also talk about my life which I kind of described a little bit earlier and I would share my experiences about obviously the working out but then my life and you know where I'm at and what I've gone through. And so I was coming from this place of like, I would see the sort of love for what I was talking about or the appreciation. And it was like in a good way, helping people to like, get over addiction or like go towards their goal no matter what's happened to them in their life,

like these sort of things. Yeah. And so maybe that's why I have the conversation like with you, like, man, it could have been different. But, you know, I guess that's what makes people really connect with you is like actually getting to know you. That's like, guess what I'm trying to like, achieve now. Now I've got like the... I don't know if you can. But I think I can because I like vlog on my um but I but you can you can vlog you can make content but I think no matter what you do now everyone's always going to say oh that's the you know that's that shit. No well there'll be there'll be a lot of the internet that like that's the hundred guys chick or whatever but there'll be a small percentage of like I've had girls message to me now that like enjoy just watching like

my day to day kind of thing you know like Anna Paul she's um an Australian sex worker and she does only fans but she like kind of logs her day on TikTok and everyone feels so like connected to her and loves her because like she just shows off what she's doing and shit like that and people connect yeah I mean at the end of day like I'm not saying there's never any good you could do there's certainly good in all situations and that's not me trying to be like I want to do good just more I just want to build more of the fuck good right no no no I just want to build more of like a fan base that are like actually a little bit invested rather than just like want to watch like a porn video or interesting it's funny how that you care

about that now you didn't care about it um i don't know it's just like when did that happen when you thought like that no but like i needed the initial kind of like a lot of viewers and stuff like that because and then i thought well now i can you know like you can take this either way you can just kind of slow down and go down or you can try and actually like, get more of a established audience. Yeah. With these eyes. Yeah.

Fair. Yeah. We definitely disagree on a lot of stuff, but it's fine. I see what you're saying. I'm not trying to be such an asshole. Negative Nelly over here. No, no, no, no. But yeah, just different, different places.

I just, I just been doing it for so fucking long. Yeah. Yeah. It's just interesting because I've seen so many, like, versions. People come and go, I bet, so much. Yeah. And then the only fans saying I've been involved, I've been involved. Well, you've been here from the start, like, see it grow and get more, like, crazy. Yeah, maybe that's why I'm a little bit more cynical.

Yeah, maybe in 10 years, then we'll really start to see, like, people get crazy with the shit. We'll see what, what actually is coming from all this kind of shit. I mean, I thought of 5,000 people in five hours. Yeah, I hope that doesn't happen. But that's what I'm saying. It's like, that's why I get cynical about. I'm like, where is this going? Because I've seen it, I've seen, just the fact that that other chick was like, yeah, a thousand guys in half a day or 12 out, whatever it is.

And it's like, what are we doing? What are we competing on? Like, this is crazy. Slot Wars. Yeah, fuck, man. We got to shut that down. Yes, man. Yeah, man.

Hell yeah, man. No, we got to shut it down. But thank you so much for coming. Thank you for me. If you don't have any other questions. That was a great question, by the way. Our guitar, he'd yap all day. But thank you for coming.

And, yeah, I wish you. All the best. Yes. Yes. All the best. Yeah, no. Thank you so much for coming for real. Thanks for having me home.

Awesome, yeah. Cheers.