RAWTALK - Why Nick Nayersina Left Nelk, Dating Sky Bri & Why Katie Sigmond Quit

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

In this podcast, we uncover the artistry behind Nick Nayersina's work, discussing his approach to storytelling, Dating Sky Bri And why he left Nelk. Join us as we dive into his life as well as his goo...d friend, Katie Sigmond talks about why she quit doing adult content.Sponsors: Manscaped: https://www.manscaped.com Use code: RAWTALK for 20% off + Free ShippingFlexProMeals: https://promo.flexpromeals.com/ Use code: RAWTALK for 20% off your first orderSUBSCRIBE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/REALRAWTALK...LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...FOLLOW RAWTALK PODCAST: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/getrawtalkTIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@askrawtalkFOLLOW BRADLEY: INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/bradleymartynSUBSCRIBE TO RAWTALK PODCAST CLIPS: / @rawtalkclip SUBSCRIBE TO LIFE OF BRADLEY MARTYN: / @bradleymartyn SUBSCRIBE TO FITNESS CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/bradleymartyn...RAWGEAR: https://www.rawgear.com (CODE:RAW)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So this is, this is great because I don't even know how to address. I had you on the pod before, but it was like episode, it was like, couldn't put it out. Yeah. I'm glad to have you back this time we brought Nick. Yeah. I understand that you guys both came to my house late to the pockets, which is okay, but you both had to shit as soon as you walked in, apparently. I, whoa. I had to go pee.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I didn't have to shit. Oh, you were like, Nick, I had to shoo for the pod, let me. Whoa. You were doing that. That's what he said. He said. No, I just went pee. You just wanted to make yourself
Starting point is 00:00:31 seem better No, no, I'm holding mine, so Because he came in here It's like, yo, can I go to the bathroom? We're like, that bathroom's out right now Because he cut off the water valve And he's like, oh, go use it And then Katie's in there
Starting point is 00:00:41 And he said that you're taking his shit No, I was going pee Well, she got scared of your dogs At first she had to pee And then she was like, I think like the shit's coming So she was Is that true? He's really good at lying.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Yeah The nervous shit, everyone gets to that He's been good I've known for some time Yeah How long have you guys known each other? A year? Wow
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yeah, maybe like Like 10 months? maybe yeah yeah yes that's awesome that's super sweet it's been a journey it actually really has been a journey yeah do you remember the first podcast we did it was a drug pod yeah oh my yeah so our first pod he's like nick like do you want to come beyond this I was like yeah it'd be awesome but I've never done anything really on camera it's back when he's working for Steve yeah it's back when I was working for Steve and he takes me down to this bar and he gets me six double shots of tequila no I didn't get you six oh no no no we were all
Starting point is 00:01:26 drinking those well everyone was drinking them yeah you made me do as many as you did. You said I had to take every shot that you shot. Yeah, well, that was the point because we had to go take the podcast. The whole idea was a drunk podcast. Yeah, but you could handle your alcohol way better than I could. Oh, I absolutely cannot. Well, you were better than me. Yeah, because I was blacked out. Yeah. You were reckless on that pot. Yeah. What did you talk about? They had to cut some shit out. Um, a lot of stuff. I don't even remember the pot is. Yeah, it's my first pop. You have to go watch it. Yeah. Actually, it came out to be a good pod once it was edited. Is it on this channel? It's on this channel. Oh my God. I have to
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yeah, so Steve, we're at the, in the Miami house. It's when we were living there. We'll film a bunch of content. But a lot's changed. A lot's changed. For both of you guys. Yeah. So did you officially stop doing the OF stuff?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Are you still doing it? Officially stopped. So you've been 100% no more? None. Yeah. We talked about this obviously in the last pot a little bit, but why did you finally decide to do that? It was more just like it's not something. It didn't make me happy anymore.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah. You're always laughing. Oh, I thought you're laughing. No, I'm happy for you. That was a big decision. I remember when you were doing it. Yeah. No, it just, I wasn't happy doing it.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Like, it almost felt like I wanted, I wanted to, like, go towards something I desired more. And OnlyFans wasn't the move from you at all. You don't think like you just got the bag and then you just said, fuck it. Well, because you definitely already got the bad. I mean, business wise, yes. But that wasn't my whole point of doing it. I kind of started it, like, kind of, I didn't really, I got manipulated a little bit by a lot of different, like, brands that, or not brands, like management companies that wanted to run my only fans.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And so I had all these people telling me like, you need to start. It's the same as Instagram, this, that, that. And it was, I mean, it was, but just like the type of, it made my name look bad. Like being on only fans, it was more like, oh, she's an only fan girl. And that's just not someone who I wanted to be known as because there's a lot more of me than just that. And so I was like, I'm just going to stop and work towards something like the desire. Why did you do it then if you felt like it was not what you wanted to be known as? because money 100% and I just honestly I had a lot of people talk me into it and I don't regret it
Starting point is 00:03:36 I'm not saying oh this is the worst decision of my life because it made me a lot of money it changed my life but it just got to a point where it wasn't something I wanted to be doing anymore I wanted to go towards something I desired more do you think the stigma around only doing it will follow you for a long time or it'll fade away um it depends how I handle it but it definitely will have yeah it'll probably last a little bit can i say something yeah go ahead i really think you are something until you're not like think about think about natalie from david dobrook she was his assistant until now she's like this figure i think you like you realize like you i realized you have a great personality you knew that i knew that now you have other opportunities
Starting point is 00:04:15 coming and i think those are going to change your life and i think a lot of things great will come because you've made this move you're not you're something until you're not or you are you are Nothing until you're something. What do you mean? I think you're something until she was known for only things until she's not known for only until she's known for her personality or doing this next big thing or doing this podcast. So it's more about what you're doing next. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I think you can always change. I swear. Yeah. The only time people kind of remember I do only things is when I talk about it on pods. Because like I did Steinie's podcast and he brought up the only fans thing a little bit. And people in the comments were like, oh, I didn't even know she did that. And I have people come up to me that I've met the past couple months. They're like, oh, I didn't even, like, I didn't even know you did that.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It was kind of just like, it started my career, but I don't think it left a huge impact where, like, oh, my God, this girl is only known for that and only has this going for her. I feel like I've, I feel like it's because you're still kind of on the come up. Yeah. Because like, for example, if I were to do only f***es, everyone would be like, oh, it's like, no one would forget that. Yeah. No one would ever forget that. No, for sure, I wouldn't forget that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Also, like, I've thought about it so many times, like, what would I post if I ever did that? Ab pics Yeah Would you do some posing Some shirtless stuff Maybe Maybe you and your girl Get a little active
Starting point is 00:05:31 I don't know I don't know I mean that'd be crazy That'd be insane I'm not saying you should do that I'm just saying that might be the Would you do that? No I mean I've been asked to
Starting point is 00:05:39 I would not No I can't do it Can't do it Yeah I don't think I could No way No I don't think I could You just recently announced that You got a girlfriend now
Starting point is 00:05:48 I have a girlfriend Officially officially Amazing girlfriend It's beautiful thank you you would never do anything with her talking about sky of course yeah yeah she's uh
Starting point is 00:05:57 she's asked me and like maybe she asked you in that and like like that she's asked me she's like Nick if you want to make some you know with me and like I think this is there's a lot of chemistry between her and me but I said you're like I don't want my day out there like that
Starting point is 00:06:11 I can't do it I can't do it I just I don't know I don't judge her she can do whatever she wants but I can't do it so is that is that still a thing that she's going to do while you guys are dating only fans yeah she didn't do only fans but she's not doing porn so she's stopping the porn stopping the porn wow yeah look at you dude i know i fell in love man holy i know yeah what do you think about it i think it's i mean dude that that originally
Starting point is 00:06:39 when i think about the idea of that it's like it's tough for me to wrap my mind around like dating um someone who's done that but then i also go like eh as long as it's not continuing on then you know um like you could you could you could you officially date someone like that if they just kept doing that no no if she kept doing it she was said i'm gonna do it deal with it i'm gonna be real with you i couldn't and honestly to me like sex it's it's special to me in a relationship if you want me to be real with you like i think that's between one i i wouldn't even do a three way to be real with you if i'm in a relationship that's just me personally like when i'm with the girl like i love that girl for her and it's just between her and me so that's
Starting point is 00:07:20 how I value sex um yeah with her doing porn I saw her like that like the way I met her and got to know her is like she's everything that I would want a girl to be honest she's an amazing girl yeah and that's how I see yeah I'm not saying I know it doesn't define someone yeah yeah is it hard to deal with like thinking about like of course I was like man okay I don't I don't like that but it's not who she is yeah yeah do you know that it's giving you a ton of clow I guess yeah I mean not all my contents like about her I'm not saying it is I just got to ask us hard questions no not no it's not not at all we have a real relationship we truly care about each other and they do love each other yeah like outside filming yeah I'm not obviously I've not
Starting point is 00:08:05 questioning that yeah yeah I just know people I do say people think you know we know we recently had a conversation she she wants to be in the videos and she asked to be in the videos and she wants to support me yeah no she's dope yeah she's amazing um but it's something that I've talked about with her is like it's weird for me too to like post that and do that but we have a lot of fun together she wants like I'm traveling 24-7 I'm on like ground zero of like I have to post week to week like I'm do or die right now I don't I'm not ball in I can't chill I can't go do all these amazing things and have this crazy budget so like she wants to be with me she wants to travel with me I want to travel with her I want to experience life with her so like
Starting point is 00:08:43 it's kind of just like she's there and yeah yeah sorry Katie I I I don't mean But he just brought up something. I really want to ask you one more question. And I got a few more for you. This is like really interesting because I've spent a lot of time with you, like making content and like grinding with Steve like you do in the back end of videography editing stuff. Because now like you said week to week. You know, because it's very different. You knew kind of what you were getting into because you were a part of it before.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You know, I think you and Steve like knew I wanted to do all this from the start. Like you were you and him. I remember you sitting me down before working for Steve and you were like, bro, you should work with. Steve he supports your goals and your dreams and you support him and I think uh this something I always want to do when I moved to LA three years ago four years ago before Nelk I always want to do my own channel I was want to do my own music I think dude I don't think I could be doing this right now if I didn't learn and experience everything I did with Nelk with Steve with salim with you um now like I have such a great understanding I know how I want to
Starting point is 00:09:42 do my videos like I think two of my biggest inspirations in making videos was you and Steve and then I I mean, I've always loved Logan Paul and how he cared himself, but Steve is probably one of, like, my biggest inspirations. Yeah. We're working under him, seeing how he held his team. It was chaotic, but. Yeah, we grind. But it was a grind, and everyone loved each other.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I love how there was so much love between everyone on that team. Yeah. And that was my favorite part, and I always knew I wanted to do this, but I didn't, yeah. Why didn't you do more things with milk? Like, why are you kind of doing your own thing? Man, that's a, you know, I got to ask the hard question. Yeah, this is, these are tough, I didn't really think about that. But I have, I've only loved for them.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I love working with all of them. I have great relationships with all of them. They wanted, I mean, the truth is, they wanted me to be an editor for them. I was a great employee. I worked my ass off. And they knew that, and there was a lot of respect for that. But being an editor and being a filmer, it's just not, it's not my dream. I did my three years.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I worked 24-7. I worked every day. I gave everything I could for that company, and I love them. but sometimes I think if you want to do your dreams and your goals you have to go on your own and do that why do you but why I guess because the reason I have this perspective because I saw you saying you I want to do this yeah everyone knew it so so my my question is why do you think they didn't want to help you facilitate it I don't because if you were because because I'll be just if you were on my team I'd be like yo let's let's let's figure it out I would something out yeah I'm curious yeah
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, because I don't know the answer why. I don't know why. I just wonder why, what you think it was. I really, uh, what, can I, before we go into what I think, what do you think? You're good. Yeah. That hell's good, dude. Oh, shit, man.
Starting point is 00:11:32 What do you think? What do you think? Oh, my God, bro. That's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. You're a funny guy. I love, I love that about you.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I think, I think it comes down to like the focus, right? I think maybe their focus is more on. the podcast, the milk videos, what they're doing as a whole, and less like trying to like create these outward stems of, you know, content creators doing stuff within their network because I think sometimes maybe people feel like it will dilute what they're doing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Even though, you know, for all intensive purposes, it's like if someone's, I mean, then again, it's I can't even say if someone signs a contract, then like they're agreeing to something because I've obviously been in a situation where I met someone who made zero dollars a month. came to work with me, agreed to these terms for me to help them with their whole brand and everything. And then when she was making $100,000 a month, she just decided, I don't want to continue paying you money. And like, so even in a contract, having a contract in place where someone agrees explicitly, yo, I agree that there's no money coming in. I'm going to move
Starting point is 00:12:35 across the country. I'm going to live in your house, not pay rent, only pay utilities. And then $10,000, $18, $20, $60, $100, $100,000 for about three months. And they turn around, they're like, you know what, I don't think this is fair anymore. So it's like, I know why, from a business owner's standpoint, that someone might be afraid of that sort of extension. I can agree with that because I think Kyle, Nelk, they've put on a lot of people and people come and go. And I agree that Kyle's main priority and all of them is Nell. and that that's rightfully so like you have to build your company your business knelt the podcast happy dad whatever and if something doesn't make sense for one of your
Starting point is 00:13:16 lines of revenue and your company that doesn't fit then that's fine i get it you don't want people to come in there yeah take what they can then leave i agree i agree yeah there's no right way obviously i just think like that's people's fears are based around that and yeah maybe it's like okay nicks doing his own thing and i think they respected and i respect them and i don't think there's anything yeah bad between that but why haven't we come together it's just It just hasn't come, I mean, like, they did hit me up for like a happy dad thing, like to do a merch thing, but that just never happened. It kind of just fizzled out. But I don't think there's anything.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I think there's anything. I think there's definitely, I know there's no bad blood. Yeah. I'm just asking the questions because it's, you know, I just think it's a thing that people probably wonder knowing. Oh, dude, all my, like I have so many DMs in the comments of like what happened with you and now. Nothing happened. This wouldn't be a good podcast if I didn't ask you that. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, there's no, I know there's no bad blood.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I'm not saying there is. Like, it's just, I just understand from. all angles and I've obviously been in a situation where I could be like damn I really got taken advantage of so I can understand why someone could be hesitant yeah I've never that's the thing like I've never hit them up to do anything I've never asked to do anything I wouldn't want to do anything unless they want to do something so I yeah I've see that from your side of like so I just kind of stay yeah say to myself I'm doing I just want to make my videos course I just want to say this I would assign you really I would
Starting point is 00:14:32 assign you if you were them 100% I would have done why because I I mean I mean, bro, I've known you for a long time and you always, like, even when you were just around and we were filming stuff, you know, we were talking before I think the pods started. And I was like, oh, you remind me of Ray and this is this like higher energy. That's one of the things that requires, like to like to be able to have that sort of level of like excitement on content in general. Like you can't on YouTube. Like, you guys, what's up? This is what I'm doing. Like we're going to do some stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yeah. Like you got to kind of come with energy. And it's rare to have people who are comfortable, I think, just number one, comfortable with giving that energy. And from the beginning, I saw that in you. Just like I saw it in, Stiney. And so he started putting him in our, in our fucking. I tell everyone, you're responsible for Stiney's. Yeah, and it's fine.
Starting point is 00:15:15 But it's also Steve, because without Steve, I wouldn't have been there to film the content to film his assistant. You know what I'm saying? Because I was filming the content with Steve. So I give all the love to Steve in that sense. And then I just was like, oh, this dude's funny, like how I see. You have like, oh, he's got high energy. You know, he could be engaging. Even the little clips that we've done, like, just at the gym and shit.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, we've had some, yeah, we've had some good years. Yeah. And it's like, you could see it right away. I could see it for sure because I've been doing this forever and I've seen everyone or I've met everyone who's like in it. And some people just have it and some people just don't. And not that it's a bad thing. It's just you've had it.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So I, you know, when I saw, when I knew you were going to do it, I was like, oh, he's going to do well. Plus, you knew how to do it because you were part of it being done at a very high level. I will always, yeah, I'll always credit that that whole, I couldn't have the brains and the vision and know how this all works unless I was working. with them. And I understood how to do it. Oscott told me, you know, we were in, uh, Oskod's Nelke's head filmmaker editor. We were in, uh, the Bahamas. And he, him and I always talked about our dreams and goals. And I told him, I'm straight up. He always knew I wanted to do music. I want
Starting point is 00:16:19 to do my own YouTube channel. Um, I remember I was in tears this one night telling him, I'm like, bro, like, I don't want you to hate me. I know I'm your guy. And we've gone through all this together. But I was like, I want to do my own channel. And he goes, Nick, he's like, if you really want to do this, he's like, you're the guy to do it. He's like, you have the personality. you've edited you've filmed you understand how this all works he's like if you want to do it I'll support you going out and doing that I never forgot that because I was like he's right like I've learned everything I've worked with everybody I understand how it works I can do it and I think like I wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:16:52 been able to do without working for now so I'm very thankful for my time yeah I've done with him yeah I mean it's it's it's just all about showing love and respect you know yeah yeah some people who like we'll take advantage of situations and be like treat the person like they didn't help them you know what I'm saying And like, you've never done that. No, no. Even before we got on camera, you're like, you know, these people, I told him no, because you knew the situation.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah. You know, so it's like. Can we kind of say that? Yeah. No, I won't say it. I'd love to talk about it, man. This is what I believe. I've seen through my whole growth of like from the bottom.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I'm not there where I want to be yet, but I've seen the people who stayed close to me and supported me when I had nothing. Katie was there. When I was bad, you've always been there. There's very few. And I, my girlfriend, there's very few people that like I've seen just stay by me and make sure I'm good through all this and I feel like that's the most important thing through all this a lot of people forget that shit though man they just think about where could I get the
Starting point is 00:17:43 most dollars that's the truth man I've seen that so many times but you have to think long term you have to think long term yeah and I also I also you know at the same time too like it's not it's not a knock at people it's just like you know money's money and everyone's trying to chase it but at some point like there's a reckoning you know where I said something else yeah go ahead I had a recent editor for a big channel come to me and be like, he's like, man, you're going to, you're going to run into this, like, it gets hard to film sometimes. And, like, the person I work for just doesn't want to film sometimes. So it's hard to stay consistent every week. I think you have to love this shit.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Like, for me, bro, I don't ever want to stop. Like, I want to film every week. I want to get a video every week as long as I keep my editors happy and good. And I want to do that. But you really have to, like, love this. Oh, I mean, we could talk about this. Well, you got to chime in on this, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 She's a big part of my, like, success supporting me. Well, let's talk about this idea, though, in general. Loving what you do is the only way you're able to sustain it. Yeah, I'm just about to say that. The reality is like, bro, and I want to tell you, how long have you been doing this? We've got three months for this chance. Yeah, three months. Early, it's early.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's early. Let me tell you. Yeah. Because you've been doing for years. Do it for 10 more years. Yeah. And talk to me. And I'm not saying it's like you don't enjoy it, but you have to have evolution in what you do
Starting point is 00:18:57 and how you do it, right? Especially if you're like filming constantly and on camera, you have to have that energy that you actually like love to be filming yeah well you gotta want to do it yeah like you can't show up and be like you can't have like a bad day and be like all right well I don't like you don't want to you do have bad days I've oh yeah I recently had a bad day she her and I were we're going at but she stabbed me out of it and was just like Nick look like this blah blah I'm like you're right because it gets it's stressful like yeah my bro I have two weeks ago I had $85 on my bank count with $4,000 on my credit card it's it's it was the most stressful time my life and I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:19:31 like to ever show anyone that I like to stay composed and like not show anyone but to do this you really have to love it to go through that but it gets so hard sometimes to like show up and have a good day when things I know I'm gonna be I don't want to call you out or whatever you don't want to talk about but I've seen I've come to the gym when you've had bad days I know stuff's going on with business Jake Jake was pulling me aside he's like don't don't worry Brad's having like a tough day with business it's hard to keep filming while all these other things in the background are going on it's also a thing man like like like I want to talk more about the loving it thing but also just in general like right now your your actions are singular right
Starting point is 00:20:05 your actions are me make content for your channel right it gets different when it's like you make content and if you have another business and another business more employees more expectations you know athletes affiliates all these things that are involved in my business now is like and then other employees that are supposed to maintain this or maintain that and if they're doing this or not doing that and then you're like next thing you know you're not just making content singularly you're trying to be creative think about what to do make the content singularly and do 5,000 other things and you're just like oh shit you try to put people in positions and you're like oh is this good or not and then you don't want to micromanage but you kind of have to
Starting point is 00:20:41 make sure because like no one's going to do it like you would do it yeah so it just becomes a lot and I'm definitely not complaining because I'm grateful for these challenges it's just like there's just so many levels to it that like as long as you just continue to try to get better and at the ultimate point that we're talking about as long as you love like the sweat you love the work you love doing it that's all that matters and the the reality is you're not always going to love it like the most but as long as you can maintain love in it and then as you're shifting through what you're doing finding new avenues of things that you love and then learning how to like inject that into your content because three months in dude that's like not
Starting point is 00:21:17 not that's nothing it's a ton and congratulations but like yeah dude five five years from now if you could still be doing it that's when you're like oh shit yeah because everything is different when you've made a thousand videos you're like oh but now yeah how do you how do you come with the same energy how do you come with the same intensity how do you come with different ideas like bro i've been doing this shit for like almost 13 years yeah making content on instagram and 10 years on youtube it's insane um and it's just about continuing to like figure out like new things that you you have love for because like you said everything and in this specifically we're talking about like you cannot have a high level of success without love for anything yeah you have to love it
Starting point is 00:21:57 But, I mean, yeah, I'm speaking three months. You have 10 years. I've seen, obviously, Nell do their years and Steve do his time and change and evolve. Yeah. You have to evolve. And yeah, I'm excited. That's all I can say. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 So, Katie, what about you as far as content-wise? Because completely out of the OF stuff, what sort of content do you see yourself making now? So I've been golfing a lot recently and posting golf. And I'm going to be starting up a podcast, actually. This week. This week? Damn, what the hell? Who's your first guest?
Starting point is 00:22:31 So it's going to be, we're not doing a guest. It's going to be me and chaffy. Okay. And our first episode is just going to be, we have ideas and stuff. You guys like bullshitting. So it's going to be like my podcast and then he'll be like my co-host. And then later on we'll have guests and stuff. What's the name of it?
Starting point is 00:22:47 Friends Without Benefits. That's funny. That's funny. That's good. It's good. It's funny because it's chaffy. Yeah. Dude, that's great.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah. Fuck. He's definitely that guy. I'm doing that. On that note, do you think, and I love this question because I was asking, we were talking about this the other day, people have talked about this shit forever. Do you think girls can have guy friends? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Really? We are best friends. Okay. Now, it's circumstantially, though. No. Let's dissect it. He's like my number one. Like him, Kathy, Jay.
Starting point is 00:23:17 They're like my best friends. And all of us are just purely friends. Yeah. Wow. Do you think it's common? No. I think you, yeah. I don't it's not common definitely not common yeah yeah it's not but I think it's more your
Starting point is 00:23:31 situation circumstantial because it's a it's like it's a not that you're not friends it's a work related thing I'm saying like generally speaking right like yeah if some guy comes up to and he's like hey what's up I want to be your friend this is probably never happening this in relationship to what you're doing work wise makes more sense yeah because there's like work and business and also genuineness in it and I feel like I don't know a lot of men have a very business oriented mindset And since I kind of have that too, I get along with them so well. Okay, well, let me ask you this question. Okay, and you got to answer truthfully.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Answer truthfully. If you knew Katie, she never filmed content, right? Never filmed content. And you guys had no interworking business together, right? Would you want to be her friend? Yes. I mean, I don't know if we would have, I meet a lot of the people I meet because I'm in this content world. That's how we met.
Starting point is 00:24:19 But yes, her personality traits, her way of looking at the world. No, no, no, no, no. You don't know her personality or anything. Oh, oh, oh. You just see her in a gym somewhere. Well, I'm not actively trying to be friends with girls. Exactly. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:24:33 That's the point. But her and I, like, no, I'm not saying there's anything wrong here. I'm just saying, like, if you saw her and if she's not your type, the reality is you're probably not going to do what? I'm not going to go like, what's up? You're probably not going to talk to her. I mean, yeah, I guess. I'll just tell the truth, bro. Don't act like it's like, oh, it's the nice guy to tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:24:53 No, I'm being, I mean, you want to say any girl. It doesn't mean it's her necessarily. Let's say any girl. You meet them. Are you going up to a girl? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's, I feel like that's more like hitting on girls. Because we met like through mutual friends.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It wasn't like I just saw you at the gym. And like I think the way this works too is like why it's so strong and why like there's no, there's never going to be an issue with being more than friends. Like she's been with a couple of my friends or one of my friends. Sorry, sorry. Whoa. Oh, Jesus Christ. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:25:20 There's never anything between here. No. Oh, okay. No. I mean, maybe like, no, there's never anything sexually. I know where Brad's going with this. I know where Brad's going. Time-wise, it's hard because, like, since we spent, like, every day together now that he has, like, it's just like, there's, yeah, I don't want to make this stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:39 What the hell is going on right now? Holy shit. I don't make to sound bad because I'm so happy. He's happy and in love and stuff. But, like, it's just like, I would say the only issue in stress we go through is almost like a friend related, like, we need to make time for each. other type thing we never like oh like I'm jealous that you're with this person and it's never like that I want you to see what you want it leads me to my next point oh no how does how does like how does your girl feel about like the whole
Starting point is 00:26:08 filming with girls and having to do that because I know sometimes that could be a problem yo I want to be real with you she's so chill and cool and like we this is why it works Skyler and I we I remember this the day this happened because I was tripping a little bit. I haven't had a girlfriend in six years. I've had to figure out, oh, how to be a boyfriend, how to do all this. She's like, Nick, she looked at me. She's like, I trust you. She's like, everything's going to work. Just trust me too. And the day that I was like, damn, it's okay to trust a girl. Because we've seen everything. We've been on tour. I've seen how every girl acts. I'm going to be real with you. I've seen girls come to our shit,
Starting point is 00:26:48 get with one of our homies, and their boyfriend picked them up. Yeah. That has fucked me up. I know a lot. But the second that I was able to be like, I trust you, Skyler. And Skyler says she trusts me. I don't care what shoots she does for YouTube and does all her shit. She doesn't care what I do. She supports my friendship with Katie. She has her guy friend.
Starting point is 00:27:08 She works with Mike and all that. Like, it's good. It's fine. Yeah. We have a good relationship. I'm thankful for that. So on that side, like, it's all good. But is there any tension you ever have any tension?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Like, is you ever? No. You don't have any tension? Tension towards what? Between me and you? I don't know. Skyler. Why?
Starting point is 00:27:29 You're making it seem like I do. No, no, no, no. I'll say. I'll just say it. It goes both ways. Like, we're, her and I, this is why we work. We're very competitive. We want to, like, take over and run shit up, and we have a lot of different goals.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And even outside the channel, I support her. She supports my shit. Sometimes when there's a big shoot, like, she was talking to this one dude, who about hugged her up with. And she started, like, going off and doing trips with him. I'm like, we have this big shoot. Like, let's go do this shoot. And you can go back.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And like, she's like, okay, okay. She comes and it's the same thing. Like she'll have like, we'll have some content or thing planned. And like, she's like, Nick, let's go do this content and get back to your relationship and whatever. You know what I see? So it's like. That's just a balancing act. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. So like balance and time and stuff. That's the only issue. Yeah. Well, that's not like an action. It's not like an actual issue. It's just not. It's just something.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What other, what other, what other, what other, what other is harder to balancing your life now that you like have to do the video a week both you guys can answer this like being a part of and i i i know that you're not like officially making like your own youtube videos i know you're going to do the podcast but like being involved with the video knowing that you have to do it a week i know you do the snapchat stuff heavily yeah and that's like kind of your lane on the
Starting point is 00:28:39 content yeah um which i love snapchat by the way best app ever incredible shout out of um how how do you guys find balance in that well let me go first um um um well for for us and for if you have like a cast member um she's like my main cast member we do a lot of things together i try to think of every shoot that we go to i'm like is there a good collab that she can do something with those people that we're going to like go collab with um like the trend twins and all that like i was like okay what can she do with them we'll set something up there and then i think about her snap content she needs crazy stuff that's happening and doing so we we should kind of set up shoots that'll work for the video and work for her stuff on a personal level I feel like the biggest challenge is like dude having a girlfriend is a challenge like you have to give them time and prioritize them I'm sure you know you've had like a girl before and it's hard to like you have to really like just step away and be like I'm not having thinking about the video I'm not even thinking about work or whatever like yeah I'm here with you and if you're not you have to be present with that person yeah um because I always try and she always tells me this too like she's like you never like show me your stress or like taking that out and I really want to like take away that's like my time away yeah But I feel like it's really hard to balance some of that sometimes. It's hard. It definitely, it's like it gets easier, but it also, it depends what else you're doing. You know, like right now it's like one video a week, cool.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You know, maybe you start doing a podcast, two videos. It can get more challenging, you know? Yeah. I think that's something I've done where it's like, at times, I didn't, I haven't bitten off more than I can chew. But like, there's definitely been times when I'm like, this is a lot of shit. And like, it's a lot of stuff to continue to hold up and prop up. And then I think the key in that is trying to figure out, like, okay, where do I really want to focus, like, my time and my energy, like, not solely because, like, you can't just let go all the other things. But sometimes you really do have to, to dial in.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And right now, it's, it's, it's dope for you because you can just focus on, like, you know, you can just focus on Snapchat. You could just focus on making the videos. But how do you think it's going to progress? Are you going to turn this into more stuff? Are you going to do more channels? Like, obviously, you're doing the podcast. Like, it does start to, like, add up, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So where do you guys think it's going as far as, like, is it going to be one and stay one video? Like, are you going to keep doing the same kind of stuff? Or what's the evolution of it? Do you have like an idea or a game plan? I think for my channel, the content's going to involve. I have a lot of plans. But I think when you have a lot of plans, the most important thing, I've worked for a lot of different influencers on this, like, journey. And one of the biggest things is, Anwar Jabbar, he told me this.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I used to PA on his sets when I first moved to L.A., he said, Nick, when you have big ideas and you have big things planned, there's going to be a time. time one day in your life when you're going. I think this is that time. He said, don't tell anyone what you have planned. I have a lot of plans and a lot of different ways to evolve the content, but I think it's got to let it happen. But I think there's that. But then also like something I will say is Alex, my editor and I, he's like my business partner through all this is we want to start like our own brand. Like there's raw gear. Danie Duncan has, I, I'm talking. Alex. I'm Alex Carabas. Okay. No, yeah, yeah. He's like, dude, he's he's like my Oscar or whatever. Like he's a great guy. He's creative genius. You're Jacob.
Starting point is 00:31:51 yeah he's the guy um but i think eventually like we have like a whole brand idea that we want to start and for like in one lane for the channel uh well i think we want to go lifestyle but then expand off that it's honestly the biggest challenge is finding the right business team to go to go behind that like yeah like the u banks they've been wanting to back us up for a while um they did our first merch drop with us that's that's very interesting too like i'm i'm just learning as I go but but I think yeah eventually we want to have our own brand and then talk about apparel apparel yeah yeah and that's not not just not nicknircina but like something like its own brand like of course like raw gear um but then yeah I have a lot of different content ideas and where I want to take
Starting point is 00:32:33 the channel like right now I think my thing is like my thing how I went viral was thank you to selim for putting me on his channel was I went viral for being the lover boy and girls and then I kind of like did my own thing with girls and now I'm trying to think like the next step is to evolve I always want to and I think the really cool thing bro I don't know I you get this in your own way too's I know a lot of people come to you for advice but the little thing that I've that I've seen is like all my Snapchat all my DM is like Nick you've giving me confidence to actually go up to the girl I want to talk to Nick what's the advice you can give me to like talk to this girl and like I actually respond
Starting point is 00:33:05 to all of my snaps chats every night like I go through and I give them my pin on their girl situation which is cool but I like that that is a thing on my channel where it like brings this community together we're like you can have confidence it's fun You know it's so funny. I'm definitely not dogging you, but it's funny the girl advice thing is funny It's funny. It's funny because I don't because I remember you've known me I used to be afraid to do to do that you were there You would give you help you would get you give me the advice still I still come to you for advice I'd still text you time and time but like I don't even put myself as someone who's good at talking I don't think I'm so funny
Starting point is 00:33:40 I do not think I'm I don't hold that but it's just I just do it yeah, I get it But that's the key yeah it's the key to anything what do you do? What do you do? If you hit on a girl, like, how do you win her over? Winning over a girl? Me and Brad went on tour together, went to a lot of bars, whatever. And I would see Brad go up to a few girls every week, whatever, and you never struck out once.
Starting point is 00:34:02 No, I'm serious, you never did. It was like, dude, you were the guy who, like, you're the guy. Like, what do you say that, like? Dude, I don't do any. I've never done anything special. But I remember walking in one night to, like, there was some girl you were talking to, and you were like the deepest conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'm like, what the fuck? is he saying right now well why do you think it was a deep conversation i don't know i don't just as i was sitting there talking well are about to say you pulled like i know you pulled like i don't know if i might have to cut it but i just remember like coming in like you you guys were like generally like she was like looking in your eyes and nodding and you were like talking to her and i'm like well dude i so it's like i just i just tend to talk about i think things that actually i think matter yeah right so if i'm having conversation with a girl i'm just talking about like you know, not the superficial shit
Starting point is 00:34:50 probably most people would talk about. You know, like, if I see a girl, I'm not going to talk to her about, like, I don't know, some dumb shit on Instagram or something. Talk about, like, that person as a person. Yeah, I like that. What do you like to do? Like, try to learn about that person.
Starting point is 00:35:04 If you learn about it. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, like, what's the point of having conversations with people just in general? If you're not trying to, like, learn something about them, you're just trying to, like, just project information to someone and then they, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Like, yeah. So it's all just like the conversations that I'll have with anyone, guy or girl, in pretty much, in like, just kind of fashion. It's just like trying to understand, period. Like, that's what I've always been interested in. So if I'm talking to a girl or I'm talking to a guy or anything, it's always just about trying to understand who that person is. I like that.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So it's the same format as this. It's just like, why are you doing it? Why is it important for you? So you kind of ask those questions. And I think, I think most people, not just women, most people are like, huh, I'm not used to this sort of level of interest. Okay, that's what I think. that's what the feedback i get too is like and i'm sure you may get this too it's like oh this
Starting point is 00:35:51 guy looks like he's going to be a fuck boy or this or that or they or whatever but like we generally want to hear about what the girl has to say i think a lot of my responses are like like oh this girl like what do i say i'm like i'm like bro if you really want to talk to this girl tell her why you want to talk to her like find out and then don't say something and then you can take interest in what they're talking about yeah i mean it is that simple i think like it's that simple like what would you say if a guy came up to you and he's like he's talking about some like let's say you're watching a basketball game he's talking about the game that's going to be like that's the cliche thing right how many oh you've been to the game before like it's boring yeah oh yeah I've been to the game before it's like that those those answers go nowhere versus like you know if I saw you at a game like I probably you know if I was talking at a game which would be probably loud as I wouldn't say something dumb like that right I'd say something like how'd you find yourself here right and they're going to say oh I did this or I did that and then you try to go backwards to like them not being at the game and then trying to understand them as a person right and not the superficial bullshit.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah, yeah. Because it's just like, the, the cliche is the, what's happening. You go to a girl at a bar, which I would never do because I don't go to bars anyways. But it's like, what are you going to be like, could I get you a drink and what do you like to drink? And then how often you come out? And it's like all about being at the bar. It's like the person's probably going there to talk about, you know, like other shit. And now you're making it about being at a bar.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And like probably likely the guy's goal is like to get that girl home. So all his question, line of question is like trying to lead him there. instead of trying to lead him to like understand the person. I think that's like a lot of people like what I'm seeing is like, yo, I want to go out and get girls. How do I go? Like I feel like you shouldn't,
Starting point is 00:37:25 your goal shouldn't be to go out and get girls. If you're going to go out, go out to have a good time. And then if you meet a girl that you like, all that interests you. Yeah. Go up to her, of course.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah. But what do you think? Like what do you think the way to like approach a girl or. I think exactly what you said. I don't think you should talk about any of the boring stuff. I mean what gets my attention is when like a guy actually wants to get no like wants to know me as a person. versus just being like, oh, like, want to drink?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Because I can tell when a guy is just kind of like at the bar and like... He doesn't want to strike out. Whatever, potato, I don't understand that. Yeah, yeah. No, but if a guy really got to know me as a person, I would feel like it could go somewhere and I wouldn't feel like I'm wasting my time talking to the person because I'm like, oh, if they want to get to know me
Starting point is 00:38:05 and I'm connecting with them, maybe we could hang out again in the future. And so I, that's why I have more interest in talking to a guy that wants to like talk about non-superficial things. Yeah. So from your perspective, then what sort of things like off top would you just be like would be interesting? Like if you start asking you questions about this, what would what would that be to keep you engaged? Like stuff that I love. Like if we were like at the bar and he's like, oh, like I don't know, started talking about golf.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I would probably be more interested in them. If they talked about like things like they got to know me and then like with the things I told them, they kind of talked around that. Like whatever I'm interested in at the time. Right. Because I feel versus being, you know, like what's your favorite? or like I don't really care about that type of stuff versus if it was like more like oh like what's forced you play like what are you doing for business I'm more on like that kind of realm when meeting a guy like I want to know their future do you have like do girls have like a pickup line
Starting point is 00:38:57 that always works for them not for them but on them I guess um because I don't want to hear your pickup line you want to hear my pickup lines it's so funny that someone just FaceTiming before let her let her answer this person pick up like is something always works like is there like a is there like a go-to for guys for it so it's easy for them to be like I feel like I don't know I don't really like pick up lines I find them so cheesy and I just like just know like I'm just like I'm just like okay whatever I don't know I'm more interested in the guy when I like hang out with them multiple times and just like more like a friend with them first before I like like even find them attractive in that way I don't know I'm not like when I see someone if they
Starting point is 00:39:31 gave me a pickable I just like I'm just like not she needs a life experience with a man before committing to I think pickable lines is don't yeah exactly be honest what's what's your ultimate pickup line though I don't say hey I'm Nick that's exactly what I think You're beautiful. Yeah, you go straight to it. No, I don't think I have a, you know what it is, this is what I do every time. Because if I'm going to go up to a girl, if I'm actually going to go up to a girl, I have to be like passionate about her, like something about her.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Well, hold on, though. How the fuck? Okay, let's say you don't have a girlfriend at this point. Okay. You're not in a bar seeing a girl and you're like, I'm passionate about her. Yeah. You think she's hot. Okay, I think she's hot, but I think something, I don't just go up to hot girls.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I'm not the kind of guy to hit on every girl. But if I find a girl exceptionally beautiful or stands out from the rest, I'm going to go say something. And what I do is whatever I really like about her, I tell her. So if it's her eyebrows, I tell her. If it's her eyes, I tell her. If it's her fucking whatever facial structure you have, I'm saying it. Yeah. And that, so here's the thing, what I've noticed.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's either their biggest insecurity or it's something they really like about themselves. If it's their insecurity, you're telling them you like their insecurity, they're going to be, they're going to like that. If it's the thing they like about themselves, they're going to like that, you like that. So from there, you can say that. They'll act how they want, blah, blah, and then, yeah, then you ask about themselves and generally care about what they're saying I think the key the biggest key here like we're talking about picking up girls in general is like listening yeah and like instead of just like going with your mind the question that you you know that most guys are trying to get to at the
Starting point is 00:40:58 end of the day which is like to smash depending on whatever the circumstances are is like if you're trying to just get to know the person you're a hundred times better off than just trying to have sex with someone like yeah because what's the point of meeting people it's like it's it shouldn't be to just smash and have sex with this girl like it's so cool when like you get to know someone and like hear about them and hit hit it off of someone and bomb with someone like and if you do smash it's awesome you connected with them and it was it could be going somewhere else and even if you don't like you met a great girl like yeah which things don't so um what's what's what's that you're like yeah i don't know no you're right yeah you're right yeah i just but i want to i
Starting point is 00:41:36 want to ask you some questions about Katie specifically about like dating in this industry how tough or easy is it it's hard and I just learned that like recently because I've been going through so many flings and learning all these lessons and I think I'm finally I would say about like two weeks ago like realizing that like especially right now like in my life I just don't think it's possible to be dating someone like it's just like with the industry I'm in and the name I'm making for myself and how busy I am and the people I'm around. Like if I'm dating someone, they're probably not going to want me around guys all the time, but like half the people I work with are guys. And it's just like, there's that. And then there's the people like the idea. There's
Starting point is 00:42:20 so many things to it where it's just like, unless the perfect person really came into my life and understood me, I just don't think right now it's possible to date someone. It always ends up in like some sort of like they're using me. There's drama. They don't trust me. There's just so many I don't know. It's just, I'm so much more at peace, just not dealing with that right now. Do you think,
Starting point is 00:42:42 do you think sometimes though, like, you know, because I mean, I've done this to myself where I'm thinking that like someone's either using me or there's some drama there,
Starting point is 00:42:51 but it's like, it's a little deflective. Yeah. Where it's like I'm kind of creating those circumstances because of my actions, right? Do you ever feel like you play a part in like that fear? Because that's essentially a fear,
Starting point is 00:43:03 right? Where you go, oh, it's not right timing or it's not good enough because what, What the hell are you doing? Oh, you snapchat? I can get everything going.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Jesus. Do you ever feel like it's like you're causing it as well, though? I've definitely done some self-sabotaging just with past traumas and experiences that I've had to deal with. But that's what I was saying. Like, I'm not even joking like literally two weeks ago. I like finally like sat and was like, I just thought of everything. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Um, I feel like self-sabotaging comes. with also I always like I swear I'll look at a person and like kind of catch their vibe and I'll analyze them like while I'm like hanging around them and I will know within a month whether like if they're have good intentions or not like I'm very picky and so like there is sometimes where I might act a certain way because of like other trauma experiences but like in general I don't know I feel like I'm pretty normally right about how I feel if someone's using me or not so I'm not just talking I'm not necessarily just talking about someone using you or not. I guess I'm just saying in general the idea like do you think because there's a thing
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Starting point is 00:45:14 Go to FlexPromeles.com. Use code raw talk, 20% off your first order. Let's get back into this podcast. And hopefully tomorrow you're eating good and you're on track to those goals. Let's do it. Does that make sense? Yeah. Meaning like when we date people, a lot of the times like the things that we don't like about ourselves,
Starting point is 00:45:33 we pick in other people. and they bring that same thing to us for us to deal with for us to like be confronted with and it's not something that we do consciously but it's something that happens like you and if you start to notice if you look back on your relationship she'd be like oh fuck not that like that person was they weren't so different from me you know what I'm saying because like it's normal for us to go oh this person they did it to me you know like this happened because of that person right but the reality is like a lot of times we bring that person to us because it's like we're trying to trying to learn that lesson like okay how do we overcome the fear right we where we don't want to self-savitize a relationship or how do we overcome the fear of like not being good enough in a relationship and you find someone who's who has the same fear they treat you the same way you notice the same patterns and it's up to each person like really identify wow this is actually very true I'm just thinking about like my shit like we go through a lot of the same issues and like I feel like in a relationship you want to be accepted if you and then like the next
Starting point is 00:46:33 thing is like okay you kind of both have some similar things but if you both accept each other it's like you can grow together and I think wow that's that's good you know I feel like I also like you also bring people like that it's like a contrast though too I feel there's I think it's both there's like there's similarities and there's the contrast because like for me like I'm very hyper energetic I couldn't date someone who's like extremely hyper and energetic all the time you need someone who like keeps you balance as well yeah yeah so it's like a mixture of both but yeah anyways I like that keep going Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Maybe just cut what I just said, Jacob. I don't know. No, that's funny. I just liked your reaction. It was good. It's just like, hit me. I'm like, so the reason why I'm saying all that is to say like, like, what part do you think you have in? Because for you to say, oh, it's, you know, right now I just, I just want to focus on this.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Like that's totally acceptable and totally reasonable, right? Mm-hmm. But do you think that you also like do things that create those like circumstances that allow you to be in those positions? We're like, oh, this is uncomfortable. First, like, do you think there are other things you could do? to not make it those situations as well, meaning like you could still probably have a relationship. Like I guess my real question is,
Starting point is 00:47:40 what part do you think you have in those things going bad? Like my toxic trait? Sure, yeah. Like what's causing these issues from your side? Because a lot of times people will be like, yo, it's just you. You know, I'm so glad you asked this. Not that you have that, but this is something
Starting point is 00:47:53 that we've talked about before. Yeah. Like you're like, is it me? Is it him? Yeah. You got this. What a cheerleader, dude. I like you, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm excited to hear this. I think you have to find. Find a person that makes you feel good about yourself because if someone makes me feel unwanted, I will start to self-sabotage and push myself away. Okay, so I got to challenge you on that. So you just, and this is interesting, right? You said that you need someone that makes you feel good. Yeah, I feel like love should make you feel good.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Of course. Do you also not think that you should be able to make yourself feel good independently of another person? And that's what I was talking about is like I'm not even joking like two weeks ago. like I don't know what hit me what flip switch but like I'm so happy just like on my own and like I haven't had anyone I've talked to since then but it's just like I feel like I learned all these lessons from these past people and like I'm so happy focusing on my career right now and yeah I feel like the next person I meet definitely will probably be the one I'm not I don't want to like say that and then it not happen the one I just know the next person she's looking for a husband stop how old are you 20
Starting point is 00:48:59 the one I'm mentally 25 she says she doesn't want to date or talk to anyone unless it's her husband okay everyone okay well first of all I just don't I don't have time I can't waste my time also Katie Katie do you put it on D&D we're in Brad's Pots I'm so sorry I'm just like I've had like I don't know I'm like people are like you're only 20 years old like why you're looking for the one one one I'm not wasting my time I don't want to go through another heartbreak and stop I don't want to psychoanalyze you so bad right now I'm not going to do it Please. No, I'm not going to do it. Okay. Okay. And three, like, I already, like, established, like, a home for myself. I have a dog. I'm kind of already living a lifestyle. Most people live right before they find their person and want to settle down. Because you have a home and a dog. Okay, yes. And it's just like my business and how financially. Jesus Christ. Like, I don't want to go to the bars on the weekend. I'm just going to talk. She is. I'm very. That's fine. That's fine. I'm not saying you're not. But to say, to say moments ago that, like, you need someone that's going to make you happy.
Starting point is 00:49:59 What do you mean? You said that like moments go about I want someone to make me happy of course we all want people who are going to like help encourage our happiness right but I want it But that's what I'm saying like that alone I'm not saying you don't want to find someone that makes you happy But I'm saying there's a deeper level to it where it's like you want to find someone that is just as happy as you can be independently you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you can meet and be happy together yeah Instead of like I need this person to make me happy and do these things so that I feel fulfilled and I feel happy Yeah and maybe emotionally I'm not ready to see settle down and find the one but i would say financially in every other way like i just like i
Starting point is 00:50:33 love it i love okay well like i have a dog she's like basically like my i don't know i'm not gonna say one thing we've been in the uber her crying falling i said nick i just want to find a husband okay no i was dealing with a situation ship basically and i don't know i just like i hate wasting my time i'm very like i like to get moving you know with my career don't like to waste my time with men don't like to waste my time so if i feel that they're not the one then why i like I like to keep the mindset that they like they when I'm talking to someone they need to what I do agree with it's like if you're going to date someone or if you're going to talk to someone seriously yeah like you see like a future you see something with them or something
Starting point is 00:51:08 going maybe I'm a little overboard with it I don't I just think the husband thing can wait a bit but I do agree with you like okay I don't want to get married until I'm like 25 26 but the thing is like 21 okay I turn 21 the thing is I'm trying to find for me it's like I want to find a man in the next couple years. I don't want to find. Right now, okay, that sounds crazy because I just said how I want to be single. Right now I do want to be single and focus on my career. But I'm saying if I were to have a boyfriend, I want to be able to find someone that I can at least spend like four or five years with dating before there's even marriage. Some contradictions here. I'm just going to say this. Yeah. It's kind of a contradictory. It's okay. It's fine. Yeah. I'm not going to roast you on this. No, roast me.
Starting point is 00:51:53 No, no, no. I don't want to roast you. Okay. You'd be mean. But I think let's talk about, let's talk about something you said a minute ago. Katie, we're in raw talk. Okay. Please. Hold on. I got this D&D.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Well, I do have an important question. I brought this up to two in the car. Okay. But I don't know if I should put this on the podcast or live anywhere. But I really did want to talk to you about something serious. It might be sexual in a relationship. I just want, I need a man to man. Maybe we do it after the pot.
Starting point is 00:52:21 What? Doggy style. I love doggy style. Can't last. Who can't? Whoa, okay. Wait, wait, wait. How do you know that?
Starting point is 00:52:27 Because we were talking about it in the car. Okay, okay. Best friends. I've been trying to figure. You can't last. That's like, I, this is a serious thing. I think maybe it is an okay thing to talk about. I'm not ashamed of it.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I'm trying to figure out. No, no, this is very common. Yeah. I haven't had a girlfriend. I haven't really had sex with someone I'm very attracted to and in love with. Really, you know, six years. I haven't been in a relationship in six years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I've had, you know, I've had my fun with girls and whatever. And every once in a while, There's one, okay, okay, oh, dang little quick. But right now, like, I'm having trouble lasting long. Maybe we cut this. No, dude, let's leave this in. It's super common. Because I do want, I really do, as a man, as a friend, I come to you, you're going
Starting point is 00:53:09 of one of those guys I look up to as like, I don't know about a mentor, but I can come to about girl shit. Yeah. How do I get over this? I need, I need to go, man. I need to run a marathon, and I need, I'm just running a little fucking 0.25 miles. I'm on the warm I can't get past the warm up right now That'll make it because you'll be more
Starting point is 00:53:27 It'll be more sensitive Yeah but you'll be more sensitive Chaffy's fucking hand to me blue chew I'm like dude I don't want to take bluechew bro No I mean it's fine you can't but the problem is like That's just going to make you more sensitive because it'll you know It's going to be harder I've no problem getting here here's a deal
Starting point is 00:53:41 I'll give you I'll give you my advice on this what I think will work right I think a lot of people probably can relate to a lot of people do with this kind of Variation Okay What does that mean? Okay typically you're having sex and you get in whatever position. Obviously, doggy style is tough for you to hold it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah, right when you're about to switch it up. Yeah, I get it, man. Do different shit. Don't make it all just about penetration. I think I'm just like, I just really like this girl. No, that's fair, but like, okay, you're fucking. Let's say you're going to take your fuck out. Do something else.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Like, you could, there's tons of other. You could use your hands. You could use your mouth. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can grab a neck. Like, there's a lot of other things you could do. Everything you're saying, man. I'm right there with you.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Okay. So, you're saying. You help me. Okay, wait. So my question is this, though. So you stop and you do the other things. It's not inside. We're making that clear.
Starting point is 00:54:30 You're making that clear. You're telling me that you, right? As soon as you go back in, you're like, uh. No, no, no. No, it's not right away, bro. I got a good, like, I got a good like two to three minutes in me. But really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:40 So, but after those two to three minutes, I'm trying to go 12 minutes, maybe 15. Well, it's also, it's also like consistency over time like anything. Like maybe I want to ask you a question. Yeah. No, that's, that's, that's. happening but what I'm wondering I'm going to be real with you this is a good and I think you can relate to this too is over the last like six months I've kind of stopped jerking off I stopped watching even before even before my girl um I don't know if that plays a role in it like does
Starting point is 00:55:07 because I used to I was a regular guy off you know what I mean yeah it's very common no yeah serious but and I felt like man that really helped like I would if I knew I was gonna hook up with girl at night you know pulling off in the morning pregame yeah yeah pregame that but uh i've completely cut that off in the last six months so i'm thinking like damn do i really have to i don't want to watch i feel like porn's not good to watch i'm not a fan and i don't really want to i don't need to be jerking like when you got a girl but like maybe that's like sorry katie is this uncomfortable for you no i'm used to it yeah we talk about the shit all no it could it could i mean obviously that that's gonna help right like if you were doing that like 30 minutes before
Starting point is 00:55:48 you're going to be able to like maybe a little harder for some people to get back going but like the duration's going to be longer just like normally like if you you know you bust and then you round two is always a little longer than round one okay but i'm gonna be blue we go rounds so you bust fast every round i've never had that happen like in previous situations situations or things second round i'm good i'll last 45 whatever you know what i mean yeah but like right now i'm like what is going on all right you need some caber what's that's a that's a that's a that's a thing you could take that'll like slow you down okay I'm at this point I'm willing to try as long as it's not you're ready to join the dark side no I want my body to be very is this a steroid it's a it is a drug no no no no it's not it's not about sex pills this is like this is like the thing that slows your nut down and allows you to like it's not going to hurt my body is it no don't do it honestly what I'm saying don't do it everyone listening don't do what I just said it's not really good advice okay there's all the way there's
Starting point is 00:56:45 honestly like what I said earlier is the thing like more variation and obviously just like over time I think you'll get a little bit more comfortable yeah I mean we're only like yeah we're pretty new into it so you're in there just like two minutes two three minutes and then we're like I'm like I'm good to go round two same thing same thing I'm like I'm good to go around three same thing thing I'm good to go round four maybe you just have a lot of hormones happening right now or something it could go away well no no we're thinking it I don't know I'm actually but you know I enjoy it so like I enjoy it so much How much space is between the rounds?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah. There's a good amount of space, like maybe like 30 minutes. In between the rounds, yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm giving it some good time. Like, but, uh, bro, I'm going to be real with everyone in this room right now. Like, so my friend texts me, he's like, do you like, do you really like this girl? I'm like, yeah, I really like her. I'm like, yeah, I really like her.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And he's like, he's like, I think, like, I think I need to like not. Like her as much. Yeah. Yeah, you're dumbest, fuck. That's hilarious. I'm like, I'm going to chill out, bro. Like, but I don't know. But she loves that I love her like that.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Cheat. What? Cheat. What? I'm fucking with you. I'll never shit. I'm totally fucking. What?
Starting point is 00:57:53 Fuck it with you. I don't want to see your face. No, dude. Because it'll like fuck you up. I'm fucking with you. Skyler, if you're why, I'm fucking fucking. She's gonna watch all of this. I'm totally, I'm totally with you.
Starting point is 00:58:06 No. Honestly, there's, I don't know if there's an answer for this. I don't know there's an answer. Guys, I'm, dude, you're my last hope. No, I know. I'm telling you that the only answer is the variation is just stopping and like focusing on other things that you could do in that experience. I'm going to really zone in on that.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I also think like, because you give yourself time to like cool down a little bit. Yeah, yeah. You know, like focus on her more than you. That's the key. I just want her to be. I love when she loves. I'm happy when she. So let me ask you this question.
Starting point is 00:58:37 It's going to be a little derogatory. Okay, fine. Let's say you're having like pumps in. It's three minutes. You're about to go, right? Yes. Answer my question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:44 If you took your d-out. Okay, I'm scared. And went down on her. Yeah. Are you going to? Like, like going down on her? Yeah, like, answer my question.
Starting point is 00:58:52 No, I won't come from going down on her. Okay. So do that. Spend some time doing that and then come back to it. Now your duration has increased by however long you did that plus your three minutes. I think I need to put more time into that instead of just being like, man, I'm flipping, whatever, all that shit. But.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. You're flipping, whatever, all that shit. That's funny. Yeah. Just take more time, man. More variation. Like,
Starting point is 00:59:12 yeah. Because if you're that into her. then make it just make it all about her because obviously you know you got that that quick trigger I think like as a man who's like likes a girl a lot loves a girl a lot in a relationship like I feel like everything's about her
Starting point is 00:59:26 yeah of course like that's what I want to be like I'm yeah focus on the four play yeah oh that's there's there okay yeah yeah that's the key no I agree and just a variation even if it's not the four it's like bro I know all this shit it's just like I don't know what's going on man
Starting point is 00:59:40 no like even if it's not because four play is before right we're talking about during yeah yeah like taking out variation and doing that and focusing on that most would consider foreplay yeah during because that sounds like your only hope okay what what do you think katie like you're a girl like have you ever what do you what do you think what do you like to last longer or whatever i mean what's your advice to me please my advice to you is i've had people that couldn't last with me and what they'll do is they'll stop for a second and do something else exactly what he said yeah yeah go back to it i didn't prioritize that because sometimes i'm like i'm just in that
Starting point is 01:00:13 But I know, I know, because you pull out, you go down, you go back. I get it. I just need to maybe like try that a little harder. Yeah. You got to commit to that. Yeah. Otherwise, you know, like give yourself the time to cool off because you know, you're not like, you're not building that up while you're doing something else, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It cools down. You're like, okay. Yeah. Three more minutes. Okay, now we're at six minutes. Maybe. Take another break.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Now we're at nine. Exactly. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Minute at a time, two minutes. Yeah. Bang, bang. You don't hit three.
Starting point is 01:00:39 You're good. You keep going, dog. Look at that shit. Problems solved. I really want to dab you up right now. Dude, dab me up. Come here. What's what I'm talking about? I feel good right now.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So you would agree with that. Yeah. You think that's, you've seen that? I'm assuming I guess your partners work for them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's funny.
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Starting point is 01:02:43 Get it right now or forever hold your peace. Support your boy. Let's get back in this podcast. What is the most amount of money you ever made before you quit? Oh, like, how much is the most in the month? My first month, I dropped it like during Christmas time. And so, like, everyone was buying it. And I think it was like, like $350, maybe.
Starting point is 01:03:05 It was so long ago. $350, 400K. A month? That one month. I didn't get that every single month, but it was around that. What did it average a month? Average would be like maybe 200. Oh, that's big.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I feel you're making more on Snapchat right now. I am. Well, Snapchat's the best. Yeah, it's like the best thing. She's crazy on that shit. She's fucking speaking of Snapchat. Hold on a sec. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Okay, wait, I need to, hold on. There's like old man doing Snapchat right here. I did it on purpose. So what you want to do is, okay. Okay, cool. Anyways. Anyways, okay. So Snapchat's replaced that for you then.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Yeah. And how many times do you snap a day? Because I know it's a thing you got, it's got to be like a $1. I try to aim $70 to $100. It's replaced it for you. Yeah, yeah. Not exact.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I mean, it's not $200K every month, is it? It's more. It's more. Yeah. Wow. And the great thing is you get to show your personality. I get to show what I actually desire versus showing lingerie picks all day. Like I get to go out and do things and have fun.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Obviously my thumbnail might be like me in leggings or something like on a dirt bike, but it's not it's more me than like being on only fans doing lingerie and being in a bed all the time. Yeah and selling feet picks. Did you sell feet picks? Never. Really? No. I would that be the number one thing I would sell. Really?
Starting point is 01:04:26 I'd be like, you want pictures of my feet? Here they are. I'm kissing my girls' toes all the time. Oh, toes, bro. Toes. Fuck yeah. Love them. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:04:33 What else are you into that's weird? You know, can't tell you something? Yeah. I want you to answer this too, Katie. I don't know if this is just about... This is really something I've just experienced. I love her... This isn't like...
Starting point is 01:04:44 What kills me? She has these, like, cute baby hairs. I love her baby hairs here and here. You're into baby hairs. I love her baby hair. Are you like licking the baby hair? I'm kissing them. I'm kissing them.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I'm kissing her neck. I'm kissing her, like little cyber and things, man. You're a baby hair lover. Her baby hair, yeah. I've only had that with her. I don't know what's going on. It's just a thing, man. I love her baby hairs.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Wow. That's probably why you... That's probably why you... Fast. maybe like she's like her hair always smells good you see it you're like damn you see it because like maybe you see it all day
Starting point is 01:05:12 so you're like hyping you up my man your baby hair looking good today yeah and then like when you're in it you're like up I was thinking about it all day yeah exactly so what about for you yeah that's too much
Starting point is 01:05:24 like something like just weird yeah something that you're doing this weird I don't know like feet is that weird are you in a feet I'm not so I'm asking what are you into that's weird yeah what are you into there's nothing wrong with that
Starting point is 01:05:35 I'm not Like, yeah. Like, would you suck a toe? I mean, I would get my toes sucked. Okay, okay. I don't know if I would want to suck a man's toe. I know. That was a question.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'm saying, what are you into? I thought you did suck that dude's toe once. You were like, that's lit. Damn, you suck a toes? Holy shit. I'm, what are you into that's kind of weird? It's weird. I mean.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I think no one really wants to answer this kind of shit. Answered. You did. I'll answer it, but like the whole world's going to know. It's not really weird, though. Tell us. Tell the people. No, no, no, no, no, peer pressure.
Starting point is 01:06:02 It's just it's also I also think a lot of things that you people might say think are weird like a lot of people probably like I'm also into that You know what I'm saying? I mean every guy like I don't know like this sounds Um Am I really gonna say this? Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah Um, I don't know I mean I like it Like I say it dude you oh my god, I'm dying to know Yeah, fucking I don't know I mean like when like a guy like spits and
Starting point is 01:06:32 my mouth. Yeah! Let's go! That's fucking good. What? Why are you freaking out? Oh, man. These good girls go bad.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Holy shit. That's dope. I think that's really common. Yeah. I mean, it's common. I haven't really hooked up with a lot of people, but that's one thing that's like kind of different. I'll spin my mouth.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Hope you guys got that on Snapchat. You know? Yeah, good, good. That's fire. I mean, it's dope. There's nothing. That's, again, I, Again, I think it's super common.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Yeah, I don't think that's a... You know, I could expose you for some shit on. Can I? Yeah, it's okay. Expose her for what? No, I can expose you. Go ahead, both take turns out. Whoa!
Starting point is 01:07:13 Can I say what thing about... Oh, my God. Or no. Go ahead, dude. About, uh... Just saying, remember when we were Catalina and you were in the bag of the booth? Oh, my God. Wait.
Starting point is 01:07:26 It wasn't that bad. Okay, sure. She's with one of our homies. There's like a one makeout. Yeah. I'm so scared to say this. But I've always known, no names, no names. Yeah, I've always known Katie as a sweet girl.
Starting point is 01:07:36 We just started shooting together first, actually first time filming, before even the channel was for something else. And it's like, you know, we all have this great down with all these people. And then we're at the club and Catalina. Yeah. And I turned back. I didn't want to hear this, but she's making out with this dude. And all I hear her say is squeeze my neck. Like it was like.
Starting point is 01:07:55 That is no. This is another lie. No, that's, I don't think it's a lie because getting spit in the mouth and squeezing the neck are like to say. We're like, we're at a club. That will not happen. Really? No. Really?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Did you fully just make this up right now? No, I promise. I swear to God, I heard that. And then he told me that later. He seems very serious. Yeah, I actually was me. Okay, well, maybe that did happen, but what? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I don't think it's a bad thing. I'm happy for you guys that you guys had that moment. Moment. Okay. So, expose him now. Okay. I mean, there's a lot of things I can expose you about, but I just. Well, just equivalent to that one.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Equivalent. This is good. I'm scared right now because she knows. Everything. I have like two two really best friends right now. I'm really close to. It's her and my editor Alex. Those people know everything about. I need. Okay. Now I'm like starting to go blank. I need to think of something good. You had a problem before you met Skyler. I don't know what you're talking about. Getting it up? You told me. Getting it up? Yes. I don't know. I don't really have really had that problem. Yes. Dude, it's okay. Hold on. This is actually really cool. You said you couldn't really get hard. But ever since you met Skyler, it's like all of a sudden like you're able to. Holy shit, dude. Wait. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm going. I'm. I'm not. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I That's awesome, but what, so it's a good thing. What was the situation, though? I love it. You were in Louisiana and you were talking about how the last girl.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Oh, no, no, no. No, okay. No, no, no. I have this thing, bro. I'm so picky that, like, if I'm not like super attracted to you, I'm just not into it. Yeah, I get it. And there's this one girl. She was dope.
Starting point is 01:09:21 She was dope. I thought this happened with multiple people, though. No, it happened twice with the same girl. Oh, okay. I feel bad about this girl. I hope she doesn't see this, but she, I just, the same girl. I just couldn't Dude, the reality is this
Starting point is 01:09:35 For men like this stuff Is very mental Yeah If there's something where you're like Yeah, I'm not really into this If something's throwing you off Yeah, someone's throwing you just Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:44 That's super common Like I hit off with their personality wise But something I just like couldn't get it up I tried twice with Couldn't do it And I just wasn't Wasn't into her You had recently gotten out of something
Starting point is 01:09:55 Yeah Um like a month ago Yeah Was that something that like You wanted to continue Or like What was the reason why I didn't work she wanted to marry him whoa um it was just it happened really sounds like she's a serial
Starting point is 01:10:07 merrier yeah like wanting to marry like you're like so dead set on well it's me i'm gonna have a husband oh well it's not like i don't like it's more like when i meet someone i see a future with them and i also like it's not i don't want to just like go into something like dating someone and then realize down the line like oh actually the way they act in this situation i don't want that they're not like i like a man that's husband material and so like that's who i just kind of have those standards and so every guy date like I obviously see a future with and here no this is so great because you reminded me what I was going to bring up early that I didn't bring up okay and it's about your age that it's not a problem but it's about the idea around like I want it's got
Starting point is 01:10:46 to be a husband right not every relationship is supposed to work out and yeah I do agree with that because like so your your focus of like it having to be this person who's going to be a husband I'm not saying you shouldn't shoot for that I'm not saying you shouldn't look for that I'm not saying like you shouldn't have these standards absolutely you should right but the thing that you said earlier that would prompt me to want to say this part is like a lot of people think that like just because it didn't work or like it wasn't the right timing that it's a waste but we have to remember that like all of these things all of these experiences are just a part of our journey and learning like what we really truly need what really makes us happy like how do we really want to show up and like I said
Starting point is 01:11:25 earlier about the reflection of ourselves like this is all just coming down to like us learning about how we show up in relationships like where where our faults are and where we need to improve because the biggest problem that people run into and I've run into this and I've had issues with this for the last 10 years of my life in relationships is like something happening and me not learning the lesson enough to apply it to the next thing because I was so like you know hurt about a situation I felt like damn why this happened to me you know and instead of agree with that yeah instead of being like okay well what how did I find myself here or what did I do?
Starting point is 01:11:59 And not like self-deprecation where you're just so hard on yourself because obviously it takes two people to get to a situation that doesn't work. Like it's always it's always two people involved, right? But it is about taking responsibility knowing like, okay, this is what I did to place me or what can I do differently moving forward and how can I be different moving forward? I did. Okay. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Yes. So the past like the past relationship or thing I had and then also just with all my other ones I just like again like two weeks ago. I'm not even joking. I realized like I feel like I finally like healed because I felt like I was. kind of holding a block with all these like situations i was in and being like damn it was a waste of time this at that but i genuinely especially the last one i learned so much in that relationship on what i could have done better and what he could have done better yeah so i agree with that
Starting point is 01:12:42 a hundred percent yeah i think and i think a lot of people have the problem of like on the same topic about like before they learn these lessons they're right into the next relationship like it's yeah and that's what i think i took time before jumping into something else and it's not like i like purposely did that. I just always had like someone else coming in but. The only reason I'm good is because I've I've made all of these mistakes. Yeah, but I'm not even joking. I swear I'm healing more and more every day when I'm alone and realizing things that I can do better. And it's not always just the other person's fault. And like I don't really have spite for anyone I've been with in the past anymore. Which is really good thing to say because for a while I've like not liked past guys I've
Starting point is 01:13:21 been with. I'm like, oh, they did this. They're so horrible to me. But it's just at the end of the day we're all growing and learning you know so i mean especially at 20 years old that's why i just we're laughing earlier about this whole marriage thing not that it couldn't happen because absolutely it could yeah but like you do have a lot to still learn in general i know that's why maybe emotionally i'm not ready for marriage and i know i'm not but i just like in my head it's like i want to find a guy that i date for four to five years and get married i have to sounds like you want things that matter yeah you know not superficial bullshit i think your intentions are so good so pure she doesn't live the hookup life she's very like good girl
Starting point is 01:13:54 you are like a wifey material girl and you respect yourself and i think that's like kind of what you want a man the man to look at you i think that's good like what you put out there hopefully like that comes back but i think it's how it should be yeah i'm just being honest you know you should all treat it like that yeah yeah so um yeah it's just it's just important i think the thing in all this is like learning the lessons in the in the relationships taking responsibility for our parts in it because it's just so much easier to point fingers and i think that's you just you don't learn the lesson when you're pointing like hey it's your fault you're just because you're you're trying to place the blame somewhere else so that you can
Starting point is 01:14:28 continue on right versus like okay how did I get here yeah and like most people put the blame somewhere else and like I said go right into something else and then like they use that person for the happiness that like yes give themselves and they never gave themselves time to realize what they did wrong they just were like yes I agree with that I think how relationship keeps going is personally like I'm saying like fuck I fuck up a lot I'm learning this okay I got to do this better and like if you can't own up to that or admit that which we've seen sometimes in some relationships, the relationship will go down. I think you have to be able to admit, okay, I fucked up. Yeah. I take responsibility for that.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Taking accountability is huge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you think it's so hard for girls to do that? I think, I don't know because I always, I would say in my last, okay, I don't want to, okay, no, I'm not going to say that. I, I did take accountability for a lot. Did you have a hard time giving it, taking accountability? I, like, just for me, it's like when I do something wrong, I'm like, okay, you know what? I did mess up here. But what I have a hard time with is them not understanding me and just kind of pointing the finger and never like taking accountability themselves as well. Yeah. So I feel like I've learned the past year to take accountability for a lot, especially like being on social media and stuff. Like you have all these eyes on you constantly.
Starting point is 01:15:37 You're going to get called out for every little thing you do. I think it's just best if you're honest with how you feel and like what you do wrong. Yeah. So I do. But it is hard like because I had this talk with Jay. He was like like when I took accountability for something the other day, he's like wow because like he normally he was like normally girls don't take accountability for anything yeah so i get that keep it moving i'm not talking about my sister's right now but a lot of girls i've met it's like they want to fight and it's not it's hard for them to admit when they do something wrong you know you're really good at though like you always look at did i do this blah blah blah yeah i think there's a maturity level with girls like if they want to
Starting point is 01:16:10 make it work and they're comfortable with their man they're able to a lot of girls or some girls are able to admit okay i'm sorry blah blah blah but girls do like to fight they yeah just like I mean, dude, most people in general, unless they're at that level or wherever they've learned it, they've taken time to take the lessons in. Like, they're not trying to take responsibility, it seems like. Because, like, our society is built on, like, getting everything right now in the same sense of, like, you know, where a relationship is going. They think, like, oh, I can just go on, move on to the next thing or whatever. And it's like, eventually you're going to find yourself in, like, a dark place. If you haven't patch those holes, like, in your own shit, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:43 And you haven't taken the time to look at it. You're going to get somewhere and be like, well, shit, things full of holes and I haven't cleaned up any of this shit. Yeah. So you're not going to be able to go anywhere with that shit. So it's just a common thing. But yeah, at the end of day, it's like, there's no right and wrong. You know, the truth is, like, everyone listening to this, I understand that it's, it's not, like, for me or anyone you listen to it, like, tell you when it should or shouldn't be right or fixed or the hole's gone. Like, it is up to you to just go, okay, am I ready to make this change in my life and look at it and see it for what it is?
Starting point is 01:17:12 Or am I just going to keep giving myself this, like, facade of what, you know, I think it should be or what, like, my friends tell me it is or like, you got to be honest with yourself, you know? and allow time to do its thing and just like not judge yourself in it and this is important for you guys as you continue to grow and do this and like to not get burnt out is to not live off of like just that outside validation you know what I'm saying and like understand along the way the thing we were talking about earlier to wrap this all full circle is like for you to continue to have the success doing what you're doing you have to be able to ground yourself not to like it having to be the every video is a million views because that will drive you insane And I can speak to experience on that.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Like getting the most money every month. Like I understand goals. I understand wanting to achieve them. But like if you live like that, you're going to burn the and you're going to hate it. You have to go, okay, what am I learning? How am I getting better? What do I really love doing? Right?
Starting point is 01:18:03 Because then we talked about the thing earlier. That's how you continue to evolve your content. You go, because if you're just trying to get the number, you're going to start doing things like at some point you realize, okay, this, this OF thing isn't for me anymore. Yeah. Because it doesn't make me feel good. Yeah. If you just kept doing it, you would just like, yeah, maybe you got the money.
Starting point is 01:18:19 up but like where's your soul going to that's no one understand or not no one but like everyone's like why would you quit that you're making that much a month and you just throw it away like that it's more like i know that i'm going to find something else i desire and work towards that and make money eventually and i did fast enough but it's just like i wanted self-respect for myself and i felt like it wasn't me and i yeah it's like my soul i wanted to be able to feel happy and not horrible at what i do every day because it's just not me you know you gotta love it yeah yeah whatever it is yeah and also i started to like slack off i was like i don't want to do this i don't want to take pictures today i'm going to quickly half ask this i want to be able to do something i love because
Starting point is 01:18:58 then i put so much more effort into it so yeah yeah it's huge it's just like we just get caught up in like that outside stimulus and even for people who aren't in the space people i think look at because everyone's on the internet now you'll look at other people like for example say someone who follows you or follows you or a fan they like your content they might look at you and they go how old you, 26. They go, oh, I'm 26, too, or I'm 20 and they watch her stuff and they get, they, they just go, oh, I'm 20 and I'm a girl and I'm blonde and they're like, I don't have what she has. And now she's like mad at herself or unhappy with her position in her life. And then she's just making her like judgments of herself based on what someone else has or doesn't have or some kid
Starting point is 01:19:39 watching you. He was like, I want to do that. And it's like living like that is like, it's, I wouldn't want that for anyone. No, man. I mean, that's the thing. Then you're, then you're, you're not doing anything you love right if you're just living off of like just some other you're living off of like the idea of oh man i i i don't like that i don't have these things right just all that space of not being like focused on what you love and just looking externally on what someone else is doing and maybe you want to do it but you're not doing it you you're just like you're going to just keep finding roadblocks that are going to hit you stick you up and like push you in a place where you're like you don't want to be yeah you have to be doing the things that you love you have to at least
Starting point is 01:20:17 to a degree. Yeah, I think that's how you find, like, true fulfillment. Like, I think it's doing something you love and something that, like, I've been talking about with Katie and my team is, like, somehow to contribute back. Whether it is entertainment, you're making people happy or more confident or helping a certain cause or situation. I think, like, those kinds of things are, like, what this shit's all about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Well, I mean, ultimately, life is about love. I think the most important thing in the world. And what is love in regards to people. in the world, right? So it's like if you're not doing things that are involving like creating that atmosphere of love in, you know, in your team or with your audience or like you're giving something back
Starting point is 01:20:58 where someone goes, not like you're like in love with them but they get some piece of, you know, the happiness or solace because like they say, oh, I saw the content of you like talking to these girls you made me confident about this or for me, people will talk about you, I watched your videos about this and it made me think about my life and you gave me the motivation.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Like that's all a version of love and the things you're sharing. And I think a lot of the reason why like girls tend to get burnt out on like the o f stuff is because like you start to realize like you're just selling sex not that it's bad but like there's not like there's like there's like there's the more primal like male driven like it's more of like uh it's it's sex right which is an important aspect of life and that's why it's easy to sell right but you're not creating like that that environment of love like normally it's a guy who's like show me your titties or like whatever
Starting point is 01:21:43 they're doing right like oh you don't sell nudes i'm out of here i'm unsubscribing like that's the kind of stuff that those girls are getting and I think that's why those girls like a lot of times and just people in general if we're not talking about that space will get burnt out on the things like entirely because it's not there's no fulfillment in in what the give is yeah but if you reach out and you connect with people based on your life and what you're doing and what you're enjoying and people go oh man you inspire me to do this like there's 10 times the level of fulfillment and at some point when you have all the money man you realize like more of it doesn't mean anything. I love this. Can I comment on this? I feel like this is like what a lot of the stuff
Starting point is 01:22:20 we talk about why we're doing the channel is like I think a lot of things of way people look at girls or life or whatever it's like oh you got to go smash you got to get this girl or a guy a guy and a girl can't be friends. I think the big thing about well that's true though I don't know but it's it's circumstantial it's circumstantial but if you if you're okay I've had some girls that are just my friends in my life but I feel like that's kind of what we have and it's because you didn't find them attracted let's just call it what I think he's great Pretty girl
Starting point is 01:22:46 Yeah Like what? No this is circumstantial I'm not saying that's you guys Yeah yeah I'm just saying there's circumstances here That require working relationship Yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:22:56 But remember I don't want to fuck your point up Because I want you to get back to it But you would not approach a girl To just be her friend And you know that's true You're right about that Yeah 100% would never approach a girl And no I don't say I'm telling you right now
Starting point is 01:23:07 There's not a single guy That's gonna be like That girl looks like she'd be a great friend I would never do that And I'm not saying that's a problem That's just true It was just, I think it was more of like a mutual friend thing. Like we've always been just friends because like, again, I was talking to your friend.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah, yeah. And so it was just like we had a group and then I was talking to his friend and then I made friends with all the other guys around it. Circumstantial. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying there's no guys who are like, yo, I really want to be that girl's friend. Yeah, yeah. I think it takes a certain like situation to happen.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Like her and I, to be honest, we're like very alike and pretty much a lot of things. Yeah. So we became those best friends. And it just happened that she was with one of my friends. and I was with something so we just never the traction and all that never was going to be there it always had that like block like you know circumstantial so anyways continue your point um and I think like what I was saying is like this channel like going to hit on girls I think it's one of the first places it started with selim like selim and I created this whole like lover boy
Starting point is 01:24:00 thing and like that was an amazing time my life to be able to like develop that with him and help him help grow my character of who I was but I think we brought to this channel is like going and hitting on girls isn't about like just just fucking them it's about like really have that like what all your content's about now no uh funny i did a video of nine years ago hitting on girls in gulls gym and went viral oh yeah yeah viral video well that's amazing yeah anyways i'm just saying like i just understand why people people are so you know what i'll come back to this people are very interested in it but what me dude if you think about it's like we have life like everyone guys want girls girls whatever like yeah people want to know how to have a confidence and do that like a lot
Starting point is 01:24:39 the people who were hitting me up are like 2021 like yeah or they want to know how to last longer should have brought me no that's true that bro that is so common though like but bro i've been good with that i just right now not yeah it's okay yeah anyways um we all go through phases go ahead thanks for raw talk thanks for having us yeah ladies gentlemen no continue um you're on to i'm just so happy that like this is a place like that what we're building on my channel is like a place where like people can they don't have to be this like tough dude all the time to pull girls or they can like you can like I really I do really do it's open that you do get nervous I admit when I'm nervous when I would go hit on girls I would admit that I'm nervous in that situation or didn't know
Starting point is 01:25:22 what to say or like what I think that's like a normal thing like you don't have to be Mr. cool all the time to be the cool guy yeah that's the reality but yeah the reality is like you'll f***ing on girls it won't always go right but and girls will like you for being goofy you don't have to be Mr. Cool yeah true I don't know do people think now you still you gotta be cool I guess maybe the internet makes people think like you gotta be cool well what's the definition of cool like yeah I mean like I don't know anymore you're cool if like whatever I don't know what's the definition of cool to you to me yeah definitely like a guy like if you saw a guy what makes a guy
Starting point is 01:25:56 cool um I like it when a guy has a good personality like when he's able to be open and like I would honestly like date someone like that versus someone who's very like bland and like they could be the hottest person in the world. I still wouldn't be attracted them. I like personality. She likes the funny guys. Yeah, that too. Comedy.
Starting point is 01:26:16 She loves the funny guys. There it is. Yeah. What about you? What kind of guys do you like? Fuck you. No, not. Like friends?
Starting point is 01:26:27 I know you want to answer. Okay. I love Jacob. Jacob's the guy you like. Bro, I like, you guys used to cuddle, man. Didn't you share a man? 100%.
Starting point is 01:26:36 100% they cuddle. I swear to God. That's something. call you out of course. Okay, bro. Okay, when we worked for Steve, it was one apartment, two bedrooms, six dudes. So dudes were sharing beds. No, but also you shared a bed with Stiney. I shared to bed with Jacob. You shared a lot of dudes. Because we travel and we do videos and we're ball on a budget. This is true. This is true. Did you ever put your arm around Jacob? Hell yeah. I love that. Really? That's so fucking. Fuck. That's so cute dude. Bro, he would get homesick. I'm
Starting point is 01:27:02 like, bro. No, shut the fuck. Yeah, he's grinding out and shit. I don't know about homesick. No, he'd be like, bro, I'm working so much. I'm doing four videos a week. No, no, that's true. I'm like, come here, Jacob. I don't know about homesick, though. I don't think he's like, oh, I want to go home. Well, I think, yeah, maybe it's not like mommy daddy, but it's like, you know, he got a girl back home.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to get it. He's like, got to go home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember, you remember that one, do you remember that once? What? When he's laying on the couch, it's okay. Oh, you're going to tell the story. So when you're working for like these like big dogs, like I was working for Steve.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Jacob was working for Brad. You get you, you know, you never want to let them down. You always want, you know, you want to kill it, crush it. We were, we were always working for you guys. And it was pretty new, I think, when Jacob was working for you. It's one of his first trips to Miami. And like, you guys were like already like, you're already on him for like something. It's like, five.
Starting point is 01:27:55 It's like five a.m. And I'm like, yo, Jacob. Brad just wanted He needs you to film Bro, he was dead sleep Wakes up Throats like it looks back What do you need?
Starting point is 01:28:08 What do you need? Grah like it comes out like The Undertaker Yeah, yeah Brad wasn't there He just trolled him Yeah, it was so funny That's fucked up
Starting point is 01:28:16 Bro, yeah I don't know Why'd you do that? What are you talking about, bro? You didn't, fucking had a heart attack I'm trying to sleep, dude We'd all fucking with each other Yeah, but like
Starting point is 01:28:25 But how do you get him out of sleep You're like, Jacob And then you said it? Dude, I think it's something that he was ingrained head like if you here's Brad and like just want to let Brad down he's like he's going like because dude when you're when you're doing this content like getting your foot in the door it's like you want to do everything right like this is like I feel like everyone who's doing this
Starting point is 01:28:42 industry like this is what they want to do like yeah this is like a do or die industry it's very competitive it's very cutthroat yeah you have to be on your shit you'll see the people who want to just dilly dally and just be here to be here don't last long yeah really really want and work hard so like it means a lot to you I remember I would be like I would never want to let anyone down like working for steve like you're on your shit you don't fuck up like yeah it's very competitive so i think when when someone's gonna fuck with you about that you're like fuck no that was so he gets up like he gets up like Brad where's Brad he's like going for his camera already he's like sleeps with his camera so it's like yeah he's a real one right yeah he is a real
Starting point is 01:29:19 one yeah hard worker very talented what about that time you guys in Cabo Jesus Christ what I'm talking about that never happened you guys you guys were sharing the mid-bed thing. You know, it was like the stairs, the bed. Was that Cabo or Cancun? Remember that one time with the cartel was trying to get us? Yeah, tell that story.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Yo, wait. Wait, how did it start? How did start? This is hilarious. We heard a giant crash in the middle of the night. Me and Jacob are sharing a bed in Cabo. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:29:50 This is what I'm literally talking about. But I mean, like, yeah, you didn't have to share a bed with me that. I might, you had like... They had a whole other bed. Yeah, you know, I'll sleep with you. That's not what happened. But there's no beds. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:00 It was a bad. Jacob always wanted to sleep with me. I'm like, I'm like, okay, just make a wall. It's all good. Yeah, it was weird, but it's fine. So tell the cartel story. We're sleeping and I don't exactly remember. You might have to help me fill this.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Dude, we heard a super loud crash. Huge crash. But earlier that day, I was eyeing down this chick, right? And she was with all these cartel dudes and they kept looking at me and shit. And all the cartel guys are on the pier with their boat. So we're already tripping out like, damn, like you really don't want to fuck with these dudes and they're women.
Starting point is 01:30:32 So we go to bed that night and we're talking about that. And I think we just kind of manifested like the cartel was going to break in early on. But midnight, he's like, yeah, you were like grabbing my arm a bunch of when we were sleeping. Bro, we were just, I remember. I was like, yo, chill out.
Starting point is 01:30:45 And I'd like put this wall of pillows. Maybe it's a comfort thing. Yeah, maybe a comfort thing. But all of a sudden, there's this crash, slam. We look outside. It's raining. No, no, no, no. I want the reactions.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Bro, I fucking. I was like, what the, And then, like, I woke up because, like, you're in the middle of your sleep. You're not, you don't have time to react. He woke up and took his hand off the next arm. Nick goes, oh, what was that? I can so see that happening. And then what?
Starting point is 01:31:11 And then we're like, fucking boat, like, fucking dart up in the middle of the night. It's fucking pitch black. We're like, dude, what the fuck was that? And, like, we thought there was like, it was like a light outside. Did we go wake up, Brad? Yeah, yeah. We were, like, walking around. Like, what was it?
Starting point is 01:31:26 I'll get to it. Okay, okay. Yeah, let me see. light, like, shine into the window. We're like, what the fuck was that? Nick's like, should we go get Brad? First time. First thing we thought, we're like, should we go get the biggest dude in the house?
Starting point is 01:31:39 We're like, yeah, fuck it, dude. We're going to have to just do it. So, like, we both, like, open the door all, like, slow and shit. We're both looking out. And there's, like, three stories of this building. We see Judd, because there's, like, a second floor below us. And we're like, Judd. Judd.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Judd. We woke him up, too. He didn't want to wake up, too. So we ran downstairs, try to like, we were like, okay, well, we can't wake up Brad. He's probably going to get mad. Oh, man. And like, we like, open the balcony, like, slider door to check.
Starting point is 01:32:09 And it was literally nothing. So we go back up and we figured it, we found out what it was. It was just the bed frame. And then they f***ed in it. That was the story. The bed frame just broke. That was it. It was loud as, no.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Oh my God. I thought you were going to have a story where like they broke in. Yeah, no, that's, that was all in their mind. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. And then they told me this the next day You were scared the next day
Starting point is 01:32:30 Because dude the next day Katie he's like Nick why he's sleeping My bed at night And I'm like Brad Now that was a lie Because that would never happen That's what he always does to me
Starting point is 01:32:39 That's a lie Because you know why I know that's a lie And how everyone can know that that's a lie I were running way too hot And there's no way I'm having another Dude body in my bed I'm not sleeping Say what you want Brad
Starting point is 01:32:50 Say what you want Don't try to spin on me I have some toys to tell about Every time we travel Brad always make sure We just get one room in one bed so we can cuddle yeah okay you dig us that one hotel when Steve had to leave all of y'all are all three of us had to stay in the same bed one night and he put us
Starting point is 01:33:04 both in wait all three of us wait we were in the same bed all three of us remember that I have never been in the same bed you were like Nick look yeah he can't even take yourself serious I would never sleep in the same bed as a girl man that's a fact I wouldn't either yeah no you would and you did that's weird you guys did off okay sometimes wouldn't be you ball on a budget and you have to you got to do what you got to if no so wait so this is interesting so like you don't make a ton of cash just yet um so do you like pay for all the jets and shit are you paying for the flights for them like what are you doing um helping them out yeah i'm helping them out but nicks pretty much he'll make money here and there and like get like flights and stuff but whenever
Starting point is 01:33:41 he needs help i help him i won't let her just spend money on us like what happens so like the shoot we just did with jesse and garret she fronted all of it and now we pay her all back with ad sense so i won't i can't let her i just feel like it's not right to like someone like just pay for your shit do all that yeah yeah i want to pay for all of our own but when we get in a situation where we can't afford some stuff yeah at that moment she fronts it we pay her back or if it's like the jets it's like that's something i wanted to do and then they just like come with i'm not buying it like for them yeah the last one we had all of our tickets already bought she's like hey i'm just gonna get a jet and we were like fuck it's going to jet but no katy is a huge part of it and she's done so much
Starting point is 01:34:17 but i couldn't i couldn't have done some of these things without her yeah very thankful no it's dope it's a dope dynamic dope team hell yeah yeah it is a team i wish you guys tons of continued success do you guys have any questions you guys have any questions questions for me. Also, by the way, this is going to be the last podcast. I shoot. No, bro. After this podcast, make sure that we set up that it's AskRotalk at gmail.com. We just need to get a new login because we get a bunch of emails and we answer audience questions at the end of every episode. And I haven't done it for like probably a month because you're not ending raw talk. No, no, we're going to continue. But normally at the end of every episode we have audience
Starting point is 01:34:50 questions. Right now we don't have audience questions. So anyways, do you have any questions for me? Well, I had a big question earlier. Just want to ask it. No, I did already. Do you have another one? What about you? You asked first and I'm gonna. Do you ever get like stressed out?
Starting point is 01:35:04 How old are you? 34. Just turned 34 yesterday. Really? Oh yeah, I forgot. Yeah. Did you shoot him a text? Did you shoot him a text?
Starting point is 01:35:12 I shot him a text. Yeah. I commented on your post. Oh, okay. I did too. Um, do you ever get stressed out that like since you're like 34 and you don't have like someone that you are married to yet? Do you ever get stressed out about that?
Starting point is 01:35:25 You've had some close ones, though. I feel like I would be stressed out. Yeah. Yeah, like, you know, I don't necessarily get stressed out about it. Like I do go like, well, I want to figure it out. And like I said, my biggest issue, I would say over the last 10 years is like my focus had been work. And I wasn't really great at creating the balance in like the rest of my life. And it definitely affected my ability to like really let people in because there was things that I, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:52 just as a human would continue. you to allow to create problems in my life based on like my childhood and like my process of getting through all that stuff and not coming to terms with certain things at the timing I would kind of wish I did so it would kind of affect relationships and my ability to develop them at like a really strong level a lot of it for me was like self-sabotage and based on fear and just being afraid of like fully committing because you don't want to be taking advantage of bro yeah I have enough yeah but now I'm just kind of like I of course I like I wish I could be like oh I have the exact right person and I could have a family because I do want a family
Starting point is 01:36:26 right but I also know like I'm not looking to rush anything I just want to force it yeah yeah you can't force it you want to find a partner who's ready a partner who's who's well suited so it's just like I'm just kind of I feel like somewhat behind because my focus for so long was like work work work work like we were talking earlier and that's I was kind of telling you guys like you know not necessarily heat like that it's a bad thing you got to heat some warning but like listen when I say it I mean it's very important to work it's very important to grind it's very important to go that stuff but just think of your life as like there's a bunch of different buckets that we got to kind of try to fill up let's say like business is one
Starting point is 01:37:02 friendships is another right um like life lessons or things that we really want to try to like figure out relationships like giving another energy to these things and if we don't like if I'm just like I'm pouring everything into business these other ones aren't aren't are not learning I'm not growing I'm not getting better right so then you'll just kind of continue down the same road of like if I had some trust issues and some like self sabotage and some fear five years ago and I never looked at that part of my life where I like didn't try to do the work because it was someone else's fault you know and I wasn't like looking at myself then I skipped all those years of time to like understand to grow to learn to be ready for the right one yeah so then when
Starting point is 01:37:40 people would show up in my life because I wasn't fully ready to like receive their love at the level because I wasn't genuinely I wasn't fully loving myself because I was my love was my love was was based on, like I said, all these things that I talk about just because like I've experienced him, right? Yeah, yeah. For 10 years, it was based on validation from the outside. It was based on like likes and followers and growing and making money and all these things like my validation was based on that because that's where my like focus was. And then it's, you know, until the last I'd say like six years have I really been like looking like, oh wait, I got to focus on this and I got to focus on that. And I obviously have some like deep childhood stuff that like I'm like
Starting point is 01:38:18 And just now at this point in my life of really kind of sorting out to be more ready to really allow love in because I've been more like loving of myself. So it's just like, you know, then the added problem to this is that when you pick people like picking not necessarily the wrong people like they're bad people,
Starting point is 01:38:35 but you pick people who they're not developed enough at the point where you need to be able to meet each other. You know what I'm saying? So then that's the added tension is like, have I done the work here? And is the person that like, you're like, you could really want. want something with someone, but like have they done the work there to be ready for us to be here.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Yeah. We were talking early and like be able to lift each other up instead of I need all these things. You've got to do all these things otherwise like this isn't going to work and then, you know, or vice versa. So do I like stress about it kind of like but at the same time like you can't, right? Yeah. Like you don't want to force something and then be in something you don't want to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:10 You just got to the main focus should be like how much am I learning about myself today? Like what have I learned better than yesterday like to make myself better for the rest of the rest of today and tomorrow and then just keep focusing on that and then I think eventually the right one will come along yeah you know that's how it goes I think yeah yeah I agree with everything you just said yeah what about you like a question for you yeah I always have like dude really long ass answers no no I like I'm still processing that because I feel like like like looking at like my growth and in relationship and by the way this is the same for every of those other categories yeah like if you're like maybe you're really good at relationships but you suck at
Starting point is 01:39:51 business it just because like you just didn't look at it enough yeah you like tried to get by in a way that was just what you knew but you didn't try to learn lessons to know more yeah yeah you know what I'm saying I think dude a lot of things that I realize is like how you value people and how you treat the people in your life all together um I've always like love my people and always wanted like you know be loyal and have a good group but I think right now in my life like what I've realized the most is like who are the people in my life how do they make me feel how do i make them feel and like what are they to me i think like that's like what you're saying right now applies to relationships friendship family business and like that's something i'm realizing right now and like to be secure
Starting point is 01:40:29 in that and and to appreciate it i appreciate right now is the time of my life where i've appreciated everyone who's in my life where i've appreciated the most same yeah you got to remember that and and i made a post on instagram for my birthday and i wrote about the self-love because all of this comes back to that like to be able to really like have that realization and like to feel that in all those aspects like you you have to be doing work on your ability to like love yourself independently of all those things like working out or not and that's the key to be able to actually see them through and see them work out right because we're we're our own worst enemies and all of these things in business and friendships and relationships like
Starting point is 01:41:05 it like I said taking the responsibility but like in the sense of our own worst enemies we're the ones who are going to make and break these things like if we're not putting in the energy the attention where it needs to be to learn the lesson you're going to keep getting the same issue until you learn that lesson yeah yeah and if you don't learn that lesson you you're not going to get to the next level and that's just how it goes yeah with all of those things business live friendships like whatever so you know i do have a question for you yeah it's just something i want to talk to you off camera some of the things i want to talk to you off camera about um sorry i feel like there's people who come in your life that like man like i really like wish this didn't fuck up i wish this didn't fuck up i
Starting point is 01:41:44 wish we could keep killing and I wish there wasn't these variables that we get caught up on people you love in your life that you don't want to let go but sometimes you have to let go to keep growing and keep going it's like money money changes everything right and that's just it's not that it's a bad thing it's not it's a bad change but if we talk about friendships um some some things and some people like just you know if we're talking about relating a friend in business and like you know them not being maybe the best fit or you at some point you do just have to make changes like because if if we're talking about business that's one of the hardest things in the world to do with friends because it's not about how you feel it's not
Starting point is 01:42:24 about like you know someone's idea of what they want it to be it's about is this working or is this not yeah that's what business is it's very black and white friendships are not black and white friendships are fucking rainbows dude it's it's you're up you're down you're high you're low you're it's you're there they're crying you're it's everything right business is like you're winning or you're losing and if you treat a business the same way you treat a friendship the chances are you're going to lose the reason why you're going to lose is because the the volatility in like emotions related to like whatever the task could be right like someone could be well suited for something or not well suited for something but like because of your friend you might be like
Starting point is 01:43:05 well i'll give them the benefit of the doubt right you give some of the benefit of the doubt enough you could turn around and hurt you yeah right because well maybe you just did it because, like, you know, you trusted the person. They were your friend, but were they the best for that specific job? Probably not in all cases, right? Maybe they were, maybe they were in the beginning at some point, and then they stopped being. And it's hard. You will know as a friend to go, damn, I see this, but like, I don't want to say you shouldn't be there anymore because, like, you're my friend and I want this good for you.
Starting point is 01:43:34 But now you're making a decision at the detriment of a business. So you have to, and that's the hardest thing in the world. If there's no separation in that, like, it's going to, like, it's going to, like, it's going to, fuck up a friendship if it gets to that point right where it's a breaking point so to fix the relationship as a friendship i think you just have to identify like very candidly like the black and white nature of the thing and say wherever it fucked up you talk about and you say hey this is this is what i felt this is what it looked like because you also don't want to go to a friend and say yo dude you fuck this shit up you like because then you're just an asshole yeah yeah but you could
Starting point is 01:44:08 ask questions more like do you see how this happened like do you see how we got here and if you get someone to come to the realization on their own because that's your friend because you don't want to force a realization on someone who like a friend is going to have emotions in regards to your reaction towards them right because if you can get someone to come to that realization on their own then they go oh I see it and then there's more of the ability to go like I understand why you feel like this didn't work or whatever right so then you can come back together find that find that balance again you just need to like go to that point get the person to see it for what it is outside of like their emotion which is only done in
Starting point is 01:44:42 the way like I said earlier just now not by pointing fingers but by like asking in curiosity about their perspective of the situation yeah I think sometimes there's a lot of outside factors that aren't communicated that could cause tension and shit but um yeah man that that was that is good I think I think everything comes down to like communication everything everything so I would say that one of the most important things like because I've dealt with stuff like this is if you think something you feel something the sooner you address that the better yeah and that's one of the biggest problems is like people will let things go on with friends for a lot longer because of man i don't know i don't know how the person is going to take it you know because you care about
Starting point is 01:45:22 them caring about the situation or like being hurt yeah right but it's remember business is black and white but the sooner you can get to a problem where you see a problem and fix it the better otherwise like it can become a major issue and then it's like a breaking point so just about communicating addressing things when they need to be addressed as soon as they can be yeah this is something you guys got to go fucking talk to someone about or what's going on what i don't know no i mean no what are talking about nothing yeah you guys are breaking up i don't know if you've told you but that's what this whole pot was about what yeah it was like the whole band was
Starting point is 01:45:59 like they really like you and like they appreciate what you've done but they're looking for a new blonde girl that's not true at all that's her name again the new girl oh oh uh Jessica. Jessica, yeah. She's like, she's blown up on TikTok right now. She's blown up on TikTok. It's crazy. No, no, it's not true.
Starting point is 01:46:15 You don't worry. You're replaceable. Good. Yeah. But that's, yeah, that's good. So anything else? I love those questions, man. Bro, I have a lot of things I want to talk to you off camera about.
Starting point is 01:46:25 I want to talk to you after this. We'll have to talk after this. But I appreciate you guys coming, genuinely. Thank you for having us. Yeah, it was amazing. I want to say thank you for having me. Like, I'm still small, still growing, not where I, like, you know, I feel like the people you have on here are like,
Starting point is 01:46:37 The people you have on here are like established, have crushed it in their industry already, but I appreciate you always believing in me. Yeah. Even when I'm small. I mean, you dude, you're my guy. Like,
Starting point is 01:46:45 I've known you for a long time. You're there. You're not doing any of this, filming, helping out, like being good energy. Thank you. Like,
Starting point is 01:46:52 I wish you success, you know, both you guys. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. For sure. Like,
Starting point is 01:46:57 at the end of the day, like, I love having a podcast and I love having cool guests. But like, I also don't want a podcast that like, you've got to have these like A-less celebrities every time. I just don't think it's, number one, I don't think it's sustainable.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Number two, I think it's not always 100% relatable. Yeah. And I think, like, there's a lot more value sometimes and just conversations that aren't just like, you got to be this A-less celebrity. It's like, everyone's just, you know, figuring shit out. You don't need an A-List celebrity to say it. Yeah. You could fucking say it.
Starting point is 01:47:21 You could say it. Yeah. I'm more interested in that than just like, whatever. We appreciate it. We love Raw Talk. I'm still going to clickbait this fucking video. I'll get as many views as possible. Whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:47:31 I don't know what it's going to be, but I'll figure it out. I go It's going to be a picture of Katie Yeah yeah Nick wasn't even there Yeah yeah No you'll be there But yeah
Starting point is 01:47:41 Are you got anything Or that's you good I think I'm good Yeah if you guys Want to add anything It was socials Tell them whatever the fuck You know
Starting point is 01:47:47 Subscribe to my YouTube channel Nick and Iersina You'll see Katie there too And Brad you've been in a few of the videos I don't know if you watch But you're probably like three videos Really? Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:55 Oh Yeah I know the one where I slammed you And everyone's like You're a bully I'm sorry about that This guy wanted me to do it No but the next video
Starting point is 01:48:01 You came back And that was when I picked Skylar up from her pod. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in it too. I was in that? Yeah, you're in that. Oh, I didn't even know it was in that. And you're in, you're in, uh, We Crack.
Starting point is 01:48:09 You were at the gym in Miami. Oh, shit. You're kind of like my guy. Damn, I'm like looking in the videos. You're like a character. Yeah. Yeah, you got to come back and film some more shit. No, I love to.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I feel like you're like a little bit of a mentor in my life right now. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I'm grateful. Appreciate you. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you guys for coming. If you guys want to check out, we're on iTunes or podcast, I guess it's called now.
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