RAWTALK - Youngest Fighter in UFC History Raul Rosas Jr. Talks Beating Aljo, Spying on Suga Sean & UFC Noche

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

On this weeks episode of RAW TALK, Brad sits down with Raul Rosas Jr. & talks making history in the sphere, hobbies outside of fighting, training in Kyrgyzstan and much more! Hope you guys enjoy, see you next Tuesday! Sponsored by: Prize Picks Use code “BRADLEY” & Make your first $5 line up & get $50 whether you WIN OR LOSE! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/BRAD

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So we're here. I made it. This is the home turf, huh? Yeah, yeah. Home turf. Like actually home turf. Yeah. This is in, this is by the way. So if you guys don't know, um, thank you for coming on. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you. Um, we're at his house. We're literally in his garage right now. Yeah, bro. This is where like everything happens, bro. The magic. Yeah. How long have you trained out of this garage? Uh, Since COVID, bro. Yeah. Since COVID.

So it's been a cool minute. So technically you're the youngest UFC fighter in the history of the UFC, right? Yeah. Like, I think it was 18 and 68 days. 17, for contenders. And then 18, right away when I turned 18, I did my UFC debut. Yeah. Yeah.

Which you won. Yeah. Is it, I'm just trying to imagine being 18 and like being into UFC. what that's got to feel like. It was pretty crazy, bro. Like, because I was still going back and forth in high school, you know? Yeah. And like, I, the way I had it, like, played out in my head was, like, graduate high school, go to college, and then make it to the UFC while being in college, you know?

Yeah. So when it happened fast, bro, I was like, it was like crazy, bro. And the high school kids probably are not trying to fuck with you in high school. I ain't no one trying to bully you. Yeah, but your fighting career started way before that, right? Yeah. Technically. Yeah.

So, because I asked you when I first came here, how long you've been fighting for it since you were like a kid, basically. Yeah. It seems like your whole family's into fighting. Yeah, yeah. My dad was a professional fighter. My sister and my two older brothers are all professional. I'm a main fighters. Except my mom, you know?

Yeah, it's everyone but them all? Yeah, yeah. The mom keeps you guys all good. Yeah. So is that, that's why you're a fighter is because of where your family came from? Yeah, so, like, I saw my dad fighting one time, and then I liked it, and I said, like, oh, I want to do it, too, you know? So then I started doing it, and I just liked it. How old are your brothers in relationship to you?

I'm 20. They're 21 and 22. My sister is 27. Can you beat them in fights? We go back and forth, bro. Yeah. The other day, I was like, I was like, I wonder, like, if actually I can be, like, the one that's next to me. I was like, I wonder, like, if I go hell hard, like, if I can actually beat him, you know?

And then, uh, I went hella hard, bro. And he tapped me twice, bro. I was like, down, bro. Well, they got to know, like, this training, you're, you're, because you probably trained with a lot of the similar coaches, no? Yeah, everything. We've always trained with the same coaches. Yeah.

We have the same training sessions and, uh, everything I've learned, they learned. So the difference between us is like styles, you know? Yeah. but we have the same the same techniques what is more your style than theirs so watch i'll say my older brother is more like aggressive like he's he's gonna try to kill you okay my middle brother he's more technical like he's more calculated he's hard to get hit and me i feel like i'm in the middle like i'm a little calculated but at the same time i'm highly aggressive like i'm gonna try to kill you yeah yeah where so where did i've seen people ask you about this where did the

thing come from you said it's just something you and your friend made up yeah yeah but like did it you just one day like just made the noise or so so my homie would always say literally like we were chilling bro and I never asked them what it meant I just kind of knew because he would be like like oh bro what do you think about this chick said I follow her and I'm like yeah bro go go for it see your shot and then he would follow and like let's say he's like oh look she texted me and then he would be like chee we so it'd be like a celebration yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. So then, like, I kind of got what I meant.

And one time, we were locked in the mountain, you know, like just training, bro, no service, no nothing. And we were playing ping pong. And then, like, he would win. And he'll be like, chee-wee-wees. So that's when it got stuck to me. And so when I fought, I just said it, bro. And I was like. Did you think it was going to be as, like, popular as it was when you said it?

Nah, bro. Like, even when I said it, bro, for a moment, I was a little, like, embarrassed. That's why I continued with a woo, because, you know, I didn't mean to say that Chiwiwis, you know? And then, like, I go back home, bro. I wake up the next day and it's all over the internet. Yeah. That's got to feel pretty good, though. Yeah, yeah.

That's it. Now, like, I embraced me, you know. It's interesting how it's something that, like, you, the first time you did it, you were kind of embarrassed by it and saying it, like, at least outward to the public. But, like, everyone loved it. Yeah, bro. You take that risk. Yeah. So that's where, like, now, like, everybody says it.

So I'm like, all right, fuck it. Yeah, it's dope. It's dope. People expect it from you now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you gave me a little sound bite. So what is your, obviously your mom is super stoked. Your dad's obviously really stoked about what you're doing. Does she want the rest of your brothers to be in the UFC?

Yeah, I mean, they don't like tell us what to do, you know, but that's my brother's dreams and everything. So God willing, they're going to be on contenders this year, you know, both of them. So that's going to be pretty cool because if they both win contenders, they'll be in the the UFC and then that'll be history right there like three brothers in the UFC yeah well you dude you were also part of history for the UFC the the the noche fight was like kind of insane i think as as from a viewer perspective just to see because it was so sort of like i mean it's just out of this world to watch that in that stadium what was it like as a fighter in in that in the sphere and in the setup was it was it like i had to uh i was pretty excited but i had to mentally prepare myself like

all right bro like like like I was like this is that was one of the biggest gates the u. yeah so I was like it's a normal like in my head I had to prepare mentally like it's a normal day in the office you know I was in trying to get distracted by all the lights and stuff because I like when I was walking out like I hala or like in the fight I wanted to look up to the screen you know because it was literally right there but like I wasn't I was like locked in because I was like what if I look up for a second and then that I said that I get caught you know so I was like fuck but uh I was so locked I was so locked in that even after the fight I didn't get to look up at the screen till I came

back into the fights yeah yeah was that was it was it like dope but a dope overall experience though yeah no for sure especially like I was the first fight of the night so yeah it was history for me to be the first fighter to ever win inside of the sphere in combat sports yeah and it was a lot of history just for Mexico in general Mexican fighters yeah yeah like they know why like supporting the Mexican talent you know that was huge so do have you ever fought anywhere that wasn't in the US Italy Italy and Mexico just met really flew all the way to Italy and fought someone yeah it was worlds I was 14 so they on a fucking plane to go fight someone

yeah yeah so we fought they They brought everybody from like Russia, the best kids from Russia from all over the world, you know. And I went versus Russia, England, and like two other countries. I don't know. I forgot the name. But that's when I won the worlds and that's when I was like, oh, I'm the best kid in the world, you know? Yeah. So then that's why at 15, I started fighting adults because I, like, that proved to myself like, oh, like I'm the best kid in the world.

So I got like nothing to do with the kids anymore, you know? So that's when I started fighting adults. You never get nervous. I mean, obviously you're a fighter. You sort of, I guess you do. You can in a sense. But, I mean, being a younger kid, essentially, fighting adults is kind of. I didn't really get nervous.

Like how I'm right now. That's how I was, even the day of the spear, you know? Because only twice I've got nervous in all my fights. Only twice. But because I only think about like, oh, I train for this and I'm going to do this. And whatever happens is going to happen, you know? Like, if I'm going to knock down, I'm going to knock him out. If I'm going to knock him out, I'm going to knock him out.

Like, you know, like, I'm just going to do my best. So then that's why I don't, like, put pressure on myself where I don't get nervous. Yeah. So you obviously do what you've trained for. Yeah, yeah. What about, I saw a clip, I wanted to ask you about this, kind of in regards to training, I guess. But I saw a clip of Tim Welch, Sugar Sean's coach and boy, talking about how, like, someone said that you were a spy because you went to go train at the academy where he trains at

did you see that clip yeah yeah i saw it they said you were a spy and he's like no he's a young kid and then he said your girl was filming everything and he's like oh wait a minute so were you a spy nah nah um like i said like for example i'm like i told you i train in my garage right yeah so i use my platform to try to reach out to some people to train to learn to you know because i'm trying to be the best uh so i was in arizona checking out a gym over there and i knew i heard like tim welch and shana mallow were over there so i hit up tim welch like hey like can i train yeah because i didn't want to just show up because i know that like they've seen me spar marab you know and uh i always record everything and even that day in that

gym like i went versus a lot of good people and i got tapped a few times you know so i'm glad that I got it on tape because I can see like, oh, like my mistakes. But I mean, I guess Sean O'Malley was right. Maybe I should have asked, you know, to film. But I always filmed, but I've never posted any of the videos. Like, when I got into the UFC, I had beef going on with Aljo, you know? He was saying, like, till this day, the people think that I went hella hard on him because, like, not trying to start anything, but,

I did, you know, beat him up, you know. Like in a sparring. Yeah, like in a training session, but I don't take training sessions too hard like that, you know, because it's a training session, you know? In my head, I'm like, I don't know how many training sessions he did before this. Maybe what if he just went for like a 10-mile run, you know? Yeah. So, and I didn't even know who Aljo was at that moment, you know?

I just told me right there, oh, he's the UFC champion, but I didn't know what way class. I thought he was a striker because I outgrap with him, you know. So I was like, oh, maybe... Did you tap him? No, it was positioned. So, like, I took him down. I took his back. And then we stopped right there.

But if it was... So this is on camera. You never posted this. It's on camera. Like, I have it on my phone right now, like, literally right now. You've never posted it. No. But then he went on to say a different story that I went so hard.

But in the video, you can see how I pick him up and put him down so, like, gentle and stuff, you know? But... But, but... But... What I'm trying to say is I've never been that guy to post any footage of my training, you know? I have so many videos with so many UFC fighters before I was in the UFC. I've never posted any single footage. So like that just tells you like, oh, you know, I'm not like trying to record and fucking post it.

Yeah, it's not. It's not so much for the like the cloud. No, no, yeah, no. Damn, that's interesting. You got to run it back with Aljo. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean. Where are you in line?

as far as like you know the fights go I think one more fight puts me in the top 15 probably I fight two guys in the top 15 or maybe three and then that puts me on a title shot so potentially it could be four or five fights that put me in a title fight for Marab yeah if if he's still fighting yeah if he's if he still got it yeah yeah how do you think that fight goes you train with him I mean I don't want to say I'm not gonna like I like that guy but no of course he's dope I like him too yeah yeah but I it's so funny I actually this is such a dumb question on my part because every time I ask a fighter that the way that they say it's gonna go is that they're gonna win yeah yeah it's like why

else would you fight unless you thought that about yourself yeah yeah yeah but he's fucking he's an animal he's an animal yeah grappling bro and his cardio his cardio is crazy you know so that's why I've spotted him like over like we sparred over like 50 rounds and with him in one day huh in one day no

no one day in one day probably like five but yeah like I'm saying overall because I'm starting

before I was even a pro professional fighter yeah so with him I learned like how to manage

someone's pace you know output because if I let him put the pace I'm gonna get I can't keep up his pace

you know he's so how do you how do you change his pace like for example if I take him down I have to learn how to

control them like on the ground and like for example take his back and get a body lock and hold hold the back for a while like not right away go for the submission because uh if i try to like just wrestle him and strangle with him he keeps up that pace where like i start slowing down and he just keeps it you know because he he feels better in that pace yeah yeah so yours more control yeah more control like i have to be like more technical you know more precise with my techniques what's your what's your what's the style that you enjoy the most like you like just going hard you know you see some fighters who just like they just come out crazy yeah yeah like in my first professional fights bro i just wanted to get in there and just throw you know just like like who's that guy who just beat up ortega feel like he comes out crazy yeah yeah he just comes out crazy every time he's just swinging yeah bro yeah yeah you never fight like that no i never fought like that i try to be smart but if I have to I'll do it but it's something that I got to control because that's something like it's just fun to do it you know like it's just fun bro it's got to be so it's got to be kind of

surreal like being in at least specifically that noce fight like having like literally like a massive stadium like all these people watch you and just in any of the oc fights the amount of people knowing who's watching you I'm just surprised at such young age it doesn't it doesn't faze you nah because like uh I saw it like in my head like like I played it a few times and like now it's like I'm leaving the dream like in real life you know so you mean before all this happened you've always thought about it happening yeah yeah for how long how long have you been thinking like that when I was 13 that's when I started having like the clear vision you know it happened like a year sooner like I thought

I was going to be in the UFC till 18 19 and I was in the UFC at 17 so it happened like a little sooner but i still had like an idea you know because i had like envisioned myself uh at that age at that stage you know did anyone teach you to do that or you just figured that out on your own uh no i just figured it out of my own you know um i don't know i just always knew like that that's what i was going to do you know so you've had that in your heart like since you could remember yeah Yeah, yeah. So like even when I went to a UFC event, when I was like 13, I just envision myself, like, walking on that cage, you know? Like, yeah. I just always like, or like I fights, I was just always watching UFC fights. I would just always think of myself, you know? In that in the cage. Yeah, in the cage. Yeah. That's cool. You've really like, you've really then done something that you've always sort of dreamed of. Yeah, yeah. It's fucking dope, man. 10 and one? That's huge. Yeah.

Who's your, I mean, obviously you've got to, you'd have to get through Marab. I wonder how that's going to work out. I wonder if Sean's going to come back and take that belt again. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. Especially like if Omar fights Marab and then Sean fights the winner. I don't know. Yeah. Because would you like to fight Sean?

Sean, O'Malley. I think that would be a big fight. But at the same time, I thought, like, for example, he was going to keep the bell for a while. So I thought maybe by the time I got there, I thought maybe he would be gone, you know? I thought he would be like doing something like McGregor type shit, you know? Like, you know, like Mayweather. Minus the cocaine, though, right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like just big fights, you know. So, but now that he lost, you know, it changes things. So I don't know, like things changed a lot in one year, you know. Yeah, that's one of my favorite divisions. yeah yeah because it's just like a lot of top 15 guys this year got out and there's like a lot of like five or six new guys in the top 15 so it's pretty crazy all right so so when is your next fight uh i'm looking for a fight but i want to fight january 18 uh in la oh yeah yeah that's yeah

they're having at what stadium to it yeah i think so yeah i'm definitely going to that i'll be I want to go. I want to be a part of that one, but have you started talks for that yet? I mean, that's soon. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have an idea of who it is. Do you have an idea of who it is? No, no. Maybe I want to, I won like a top 15 opponent, you know, but. Yeah, how does that work? Because like, obviously I know a bunch of these guys, but I know it's a little different when you have the belt. You can kind of like say a little bit more like yes and no to stuff. But when you don't have the belt, they just throw you whoever. Yeah, sometimes they throw you whoever, because there's a lot of people injured, but sometimes there's like three available options, you know, that they'll give you three names,

and they're like, oh, these three guys are down to fight, you know, and then you just choose. Only one time I got to do that, but the other times has been like, oh, there's no other option. Like, you got to fight this guy. Yeah. And I was like, all right. Do you ever get afraid to fight? Nah. I've never got like scared or nothing I only nervous twice but yeah scared not well you get

most I mean obviously losing you get most nervous about but is it the type of fighters that when you when you fight certain people that you know like have more of an advantage or like I have a different fight style than you that you're like fuck yeah like uh uh I fought like Terrence Mitchell last year it was more like uh he had like a 74 inch uh reach you know so that was like you know it was going to be a test or like rick at terseos i was not nervous but i was like just a little bit because i knew it was going to be a tough fight like a three-round war you know i expected but it was actually easier than i thought but uh yeah who's your hardest fight the guy with the reach not because i was able to knock him

out like in one minute but uh but uh who was my hardest fight probably either the last guy or my only loss which is christian roger yes would you ever run that back uh he's at 45 now but you know if he kept winning if he keeps winning which is doing good and i keep winning maybe one day it can be like a cheeto or mallee too you know like a big fight yeah do you do you so besides fighting what do you do you do for fun like you play video games or anything no i just uh go like i travel that's it you travel a lot yeah yeah where anywhere like LA or I go to Arizona San Diego like anywhere bro but what do you so what do you do for fun that's not fighting um probably like just go do like paintball you know

like try to do like I don't know it's whatever what are girls you have any girls in your life i have a girlfriend yeah good yeah yeah yeah right on you post her she'd get mad if you don't post her or what uh no she's not she's all right when i post it she's cool with it like obviously they like it you know but she don't chip if i don't post it like that much i wonder if like it's the same thing where you know athletes are gonna go like to college and the girls in high school are like yo i'm trying the fucking dude what's going on right here but we're legit in his garage by the way there's a this the the loudest ice cream truck on the planet thank you i don't want ice cream now i'm not going

all right sounds good yeah so so you know how like i mean you hear the stories where you know someone is going to go they're going to play football they're going to play basketball and then the girls like come for him did that ever happen to you did any girls like oh he's going to be a fighter he's a good fighter and then anyone came for you yeah like they would come man, they would, like, tell me to, like, invite them to the fight. Yeah. And then, like, joking, they would be like, oh, like, give me, like, a front row seat. I was, like, down, you're chirping.

What about your friends? Your boys, they probably won't. Oh, yeah, yeah. They've always been cool, but they don't understand, like, back in high school, they didn't understand, like, the, probably still now, you know, but they'll be like, damn, bro, when you're fighting Brock Lesnar, you know. Wait, what? What?

Brock Lesnar? Yeah. Well, they don't understand weight classes at all? Also that he doesn't fight UFC? Nah. So like, it's like they don't really know UFC. They just know like the big names like the Connor McGregor, Brock Lesnar, you know? What are you going to fight?

Yeah. So like, hey, bro, so they know like if he wants to put you like a real fight to give you Brock Lesnar and I was like, damn. There's got to be a troll though. There's that they have to be kidding. No, but they were for real. No, there's no way. Yeah. There's no way they don't know that much about fighting.

No, they don't know, bro. It's high school kids, bro. So have you always felt like, I'm actually now really curious what your sort of childhood in high school was actually like being that like you were clearly in a very different direction with your life than most kids. Yeah. Was that ever, was it ever weird like having relationships with just other like friends, not really understanding or seeing things the same, you know? Yeah, I mean, it was cool, but it was hard like how I would see them go out, to parties and stuff, you know. I would always get invited, but I couldn't, you know.

It's a fucking waste. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I'm not going to lie, I did. I would want to. Yeah. But I had training, you know, like, the party was at six, but I had training at six, and I was like, shit, I can't. Because I had, like, I was always, I've been fighters.

I was eight, like fights. So, uh, I had fights coming up that I had to train for. So I was like, nah, I can't, I can't go to the, party but I would only get to see them in school but like I would never get to go to like school parties or like all that stuff that they would do yeah but thankfully like now I'm here you know yeah I mean that's that's it paying off I mean all that stuff ultimately is just kind of like I get it for obviously development as far as like friendships and sort of like just random shit as you're growing up learning things but you're already learning so many other things in a different

regard and you're also actually going towards what you really want in your life yeah yeah stuff when you look back as when you're older i swear to you was just like it's all a waste like the whole party and the drink all the bullshit's nonsense and you've actually accomplishing something that like most people literally can't say i mean like as we said earlier one of the youngest ufc fighters of all time yeah so and you're fucking and you're doing well yeah yeah like that's why i always said like suffer now and enjoy later you know yeah like uh like i'm not sure you're trying to like talk down on nothing or nothing you know but uh like for example right now like most of them are working like a 12 hour shift you know like at tanda express and thankfully right now

bangs though yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you got to make sure we that's i love vander express but like thankfully right now you know like i'm sitting here doing a podcast and like just you know doing what i love you know so you got and you got and you got fucking millions of followers on the internet and shit oh yeah yeah that's got to be trippy though huh yeah yeah yeah because i'm trying to look back when I was that age, obviously this shit didn't exist. We didn't have any of that kind of shit, but old man talk right here. Does it ever, does it ever just, does it ever trip you out? Like the popularity side of it, not just the fact that obviously you're a fighter and you're where you want to be or where you've been wanting to be, but the popularity part. Just at the

beginning, bro, I had to get used to it. I wasn't used to. And like, I've never really liked attention that much, you know? So, like, at first, it was like a little bit like, weird but then I just learned how to like embrace it you know so if you didn't like the attention why do you like why do you do the podcast stuff like this kind of stuff uh like I said I embraced it you know but I got the beginning bro when I first got into the UFC like if you would see my Instagram I had like five posts yeah and uh everybody like requested me when I got signed to contender series bro but my account was private you know but it was blowing up And I was like, nah, I'm going to keep it private, you know.

I was like, I was trying to, like, still be, like, that normal kid with, like, 2,000 followers, you know. But after contenders, I made it public and it went from, like, 2,000 to, like, 290,000, like, overnight, you know? And I was like, fuck. And then, like, all my DMs are going crazy. And then I was like, fuck it, you know? The hoist D's a DM going nuts. No, but it's interesting, though, because, like, I mean, I think nowadays, to do really really well obviously as a fighter this has nothing to do with it like but

the social media aspect in combination with the fighting is so huge when you know you have people like Sean O'Malley and people even like before him Connor McGregor that really leverage the internet and their personalities to go a lot more than just fighting be a lot farther right even though some of those fighters will get like Sean get shit sometimes they're like people will dog and be like you're an influencer yeah yeah see that kind of shit yeah but at the end of the day they're creating sources of income you know for themselves for their families that kind of had never been a really a part of fighting until the last four years five years yeah and that's when i started getting more into it because it helps with like sponsorships it helps like a lot of things

like making money outside of fighting you know yeah just before when i got into the ufc like my some of my management company would tell me i'd be like now i think i'm sending with my fighting money you know yeah because i was i mean i was 17 to be honest like i got paid for contender series i got paid uh 10 000 when i won you know but like at 17 with 10 000 bro i thought i was rich you know so i was like fuck i was like i don't need like no other money you know i was like i'm rich and then after like a week and a half bro that shit was gone bro what'd you spend it on bro just food like i wouldn't buy all the homies like bro like let's go eat i gotcha bro you know i thought like i was like the rich guy you know

and then like fuck i i go check like a week and a half later bro literally a week and a half i go check i had like a thousand bucks left and then you forgot that you also have less than at because taxes yeah bro my homie told me bro you should have saved some like you're gonna have to pay taxes which might be half of that you know yeah and he was like do you got like the receipts at least to write something off, I was like, no, bro. I could use the bank accounts. Yeah, but I was like, I had to learn a little bit from all that, like, oh, get the receipts and, like, all this stuff, but, yeah, bro.

What about now? I mean, from Noche, what did you make? I'm on my second contract, so, you know, it's different. I don't want to, like, six, you know, other fighters, like, I don't, you know. but uh so in the ufc where you kind of make this your first contract you get paid uh 10 10 so uh if it's short notice 12 12 and then it just keeps going up to like to win yeah yeah and then second contract it just keeps going up by 10 so like 2020 and then 30 30 and then you know it just keeps going up yeah yeah unless you're like uh uh

different than the rest of the division, then you might get like a race, you know. Are you different than the rest of the division? Thankfully, yeah. Yeah. There we go. There we go. So how do you know you become that? Just because of this, the way the audience respond to you or the social media followers? Yeah, I guess they can see like the numbers, you know, like how many people tune into your fight, how many people are excited, how many people you hype up, you know?

And like last notch at UFC, like I had one million people tune in. into my fight. So that was like a big kid, you know. So, you know, thankfully, like all the people that support you don't help. They're there. Because obviously there's an overall gate. There's the people watching. But they're so they're saying who's watching when you're fighting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess they can see that too. And then it falls off when someone else gets on. Yeah. Yeah. That's dope, bro. I mean, that that's got to speak to too, which is something that's really showing itself the last few years just in media in general with artists and everything. but the support of like the Mexican community and the culture.

Yeah, I think I realized like that's one of the biggest supporting countries, you know, Mexico for sure. And especially now that MMA is growing like over there. Yeah. Because I feel like most of them were into boxing, you know. Oh, yeah. It's been boxing forever. Yeah, and now they're starting to realize like the MMA world, you know. Do you ever think, do you ever think UFC Eclipse is boxing?

I think I think one day it will. But it's going to be hard. And I was talking about it the other day, like, why does boxing make more money than MMA? I guess because boxing, they have, like, bigger fights more often, you know? Like, they told me, like, when is somebody in MMA going to match, like, Mayweather versus Pacte out, you know? And that's when I started thinking about it.

I was like, you think they have bigger, bigger fights more often? Yeah, yeah, maybe. that's what I heard but yeah I don't know I feel like they just have money because I've had money because I feel like it's like I don't know I feel like more people get excited about yeah for sure about UFC about UFC but I just felt like boxing's been around for so long bro that everybody yeah everybody everybody just knows about it yeah it's nuts man but it's got to be cool like to be a part of the culture and getting the support yeah no yeah for sure bro um I wonder, are you ever going to come out to L.A.?

Yeah. Because I want to have you over and I want to train with you a little bit. Yeah, yeah, let's get it, yeah. In the street fight. Yeah. So, yeah, who do you think wins in the street fight? Me or Marab? Let me see.

Hold on. And I'm trolling Marab because I've, he wants his fight so bad. Yeah, I think I saw a bit. Yeah, yeah. I think you might have a little bit of chance, but I think we're all ultimately, bro. It's the cardio, 100%. Yeah, the cardio for sure, bro. And then, yeah, bro.

What do you get? Go ahead. I think, like, for example, if he shoots on you, like, you look big, you know. Maybe you'll be able to throw him, like, with your strength. You may be able to throw him, like, once or twice. But after that, bro, it's over, bro. Yeah. I feel like the cardio is, it's killing me.

Yeah, bro. I'll defend myself and then I'm tired. Then he's on my neck and I'm done. What do you think is the best way? And I mean, obviously I always get this answer, but I want to hear yours. And the best way to train for a fight cardio-wise, besides the striking, besides like the skill-based stuff. I think like something underrated, bro, for cardio is swimming, bro. Swimming.

Yeah, it helps a lot. Like, because when you're- Translates to fighting? Huh? Translates to fighting well? Yeah, yeah. Like, I do a lot of swimming. like it actually helps a lot uh because when you're swimming bro you're using your whole body

and then for a second you can't breathe you know yeah yeah and then you can breathe and then you can't breathe you have to hold your breath like here and there you know and uh sounds like jutsu fuck yeah so like in wrestling scrambles bro like for example going against someone in rob that he takes you down and you're trying to defend and y'all scramble a little bit sometimes like you might hold your breath a little bit so like it helps recover like faster on those type of situations you know so like i think that's underrated is that something new you've been doing a lot of swimming not i did you learn it from a rob because that motherfucker swims like a demon oh bro that's you seen us come across the yeah bro that was crazy bro but not i learned it from another coach

that told me to try it before contenders and then they helped a lot bro for sure yeah what's your diet like um just a lot of meal preps a lot of meal preps a lot of protein creatine and all that stuff Because You take creatine every day? Yeah So then what supplements Do you take

Besides that? Just vitamins And Electrolites, Aminos for recovery and stuff Before my diet Was like shit, bro

Before I lost I would just Eat whatever Like tacos And whatever But when I had a diet Just water Like tacos

But with a bottle Of water You know Instead of soda And then I would Go down Because I would walk around I would walk around

The heaviest I would be It was 140 Okay And I fought at 35 So you drink tacos and soda Yeah yeah And then Like Coke

Yeah And then Yeah that's so funny And then I would just see my mom's Cooking every day bro And I would feel like a beast You know

But then I lost And then I was like I felt the strength difference For the first time You know

Because before I wouldn't feel the strange difference, I would be like, ah, these guys ain't strong. And then from that, I got a nutritionist, got into meal preps, all the creatine and stuff, and went from like 140 all the way to now I walk around like 155, 57, you know. And you feel strong when you fight and you cut down now. Yeah, because now when I walked in there to fight, I'm not 1 55, like, fight night. Yeah. Before fight night, I would be 137, the heaviest I've been with. was 137 fight night so you feel stronger like way more yeah yeah way more yeah for sure

and that's the only thing you really changed you didn't change much of your training uh not not much of my training like obviously to fix things you know uh but mainly it was my diet you know like yeah yeah the way what kind of what kind of weight training do you do um I do like normal weight lifting like you know like I work on my chest my legs everything but here and there I do circuits you know like my dad makes it do circuits so like yeah yeah so like for strength and conditioning you know yeah so yeah so yeah like you bench you squat you deadlift yeah yeah all of that bro do the basics yeah how much can you squat uh like the heaviest bro like two plates on each side bro like a good squat or like a bullshit squat like

like a good squad but you're not you're not half squat in it no no no like a good one but I don't feel like I want to verify that I feel like you have squat Nah What about what about deadlift Deadlift probably like A plate At like 25 pro not that much

Damn we gotta get you stronger Yeah bro What the fuck are you doing I feel like you're way stronger than that Like we went to the gym right now I think you deadlift more than that Well I haven't deadlift in the minute So I don't know bro

Like maybe Nah I fully believe you deadlifted more than that what about bench oh bench the heaviest is uh 55 on each side the heaviest yeah i mean obviously weight training is not so so important when it comes to fighting yeah yeah just a lot of reps is what i do but i feel like you'd have a i feel like you got a way stronger deadlift than you think yeah i guarantee you i went to the gym i swear you'd leave the gym deadly more than you've ever deadlift we'll try it we'll do it one of these days when you come to l.A um where else have you travel that you really enjoyed uh kyrgyzstan bro what kyrgyzstan turkistan kyrgyzstan you

went to turkistan no kyr like with the k you know kyrgyzstan you know balantina chepchenko uh yes you know her flag like the red flag yes that that's the country where the fuck is that like in like russia somewhere in asia like around russia asia like all that bro but what does that like it was you go there all because i have like a russian russian wrestling coach from russia but he couldn't come over here so we met over there and uh the meat bro the horse meat that's it's fire bro why why did i see something on the internet today about someone talking about eating horse meat and it was a ufc fighter oh oh it was shop car i think yeah he said that his favorite is horse meat and his favorite animal is a horse damn so that's crazy that is pretty

fucking crazy. I'd be like someone eating dog, be like dog meat. Wait, so what does the horse meat taste like? It seems like it'd be more tough. Nah, it's pretty soft, bro. Also, what part of the horse are they eating? I wonder. I don't even know, bro. But like every single meat on the pasta, everything you order, bro.

You know how they'll put meat on the pasta and stuff? Everything is like horse meat, bro. But that shit is in that country. Yeah, in that country. everything is horse meat. Wow. I wanted you get extra protein because it's from a horse. That's the first time that I went up to like 165. The only time I've been at 165 pounds, bro, I was over there, bro.

Yeah, bro. Every day, bro. Why are they so much better at wrestling than us? I don't know. The Russian people or what? Yeah. I don't know, bro. I just said.

They have a bear for you to wrestle out there or anything? I just heard that they wrestles and their kids. Like, that is mandatory, but I don't know if it's true. And then- Imagine it like, you're eight, wrestle. Like, I've heard, like, even doctors and stuff know how to, like, have a wrestling background, you know? So, I don't know.

That's pretty crazy. How long did you spend over there? One month. And you got, you said you got bigger. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're also like, you're literally just as a human getting bigger. Yeah, yeah, like growing in general. You're 20 right now, right?

Yeah, 20. Yeah, bro. Like, you're grown to you like 20. So you're not even The crazy thing about it is like you're not even where like You have that man strength yet Yeah, yeah Just crazy

Yeah, I know like my boss barely drop bro They barely drop, yeah, that's right Yeah That's good Look at you, you got a long way to go Just don't get knocked out Because you got a dope You got a dope record right now

And people love you Yeah, yeah I mean you could be like, you know Yeah, that's what I'm trying to be bro I'm trying to get there bro for sure What do you think it I mean, obviously it takes not losing. I guess it takes also doing more of this media kind of shit.

Yeah. How important do you think it is? Like we were talking a little bit about it earlier. The media? Yeah. Oh, I think it's a lot, bro. Like, knowing how to talk on the mic, like, just social media skills. Like, you got to have personality, bro.

Like, fighting skills, of course, to back it up. Yeah. And, yeah. Because there's a lot of good fight. brothers bro that are steeled but they just don't have like the personality you know so like it's interesting how that's a thing but i mean it makes sense yeah because it's also selling tickets it's selling viewership yeah yeah people got to want to watch you yeah um speaking of that who thinks who do you he wins in a fight. Boxing fight. You or Ryan Garcia?

In a boxing fight? Yeah. Oh, I mean, shit. Obviously, Ryan, you know, but MMA. Oh, MMA, obviously. I got him, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's like, I think he's going to go fight some random guy in fucking, I think is Japan. Is he fighting some guy in Japan? Yeah, he's fighting a guy in Japan. Like, MMA fight. I mean, a boxing fight. Boxing fight. So when you, when you, When you look at the fighters that go on to fight, like from your perspective, that go on to fight, you know, these like, you know, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, these kind of like crazier fights, you look at it as a good or a bad thing for the sport that they're originally from. Who? Like, for example, like for Mike Tyson to go and fight Jake Paul, you know, like a lot of people have a lot to say about it, right?

Do you think it's a good thing for the sport or a bad thing for the sport? I mean, I don't think it was a... You know, Nate goes and fights Jake, is it good for the UFC? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like, it's not that good for the UFC unless Nate Diaz was to win, you know? Yeah. Or like Mike Tyson, I think, you know, that was, you know, not that smart

because he's already a legend and stuff, you know? Yeah. But, I mean, it's still entertaining to watch, but it's probably like not the best, you know? Yeah, that's not how I'm. I thought that fight was going to go. Yeah, and I feel like, I mean, shit, I don't know. Like, I'm not trying to judge, but, you know, we don't know, like, if it's, like, script or not, you know?

Feels weird sometimes. Yeah, yeah. I watch it for sure. Like, Jake, for sure has, like, some boxing skills. Like, you can just see him, like, in general, you know? Yeah. Like, he's picked it up really good, you know? I'm not saying he sucks, but I also don't know if the fights are script, you know?

Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. I always kind of feel like maybe it'll, it's, it just feels a little bit force and then it's like he's going to try to fight someone like Conello and then it just be that, it'd be a real fight and then he'd probably lose. But it's like, if you lose that, everyone's like, of course you lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know?

And you got the biggest bag ever and then it almost just doesn't even matter at that point. Yeah. That's what it feels like to me. No, yeah, for sure, yeah. But it was funny because when they asked Canello like to fight him, he was like, oh, he can fight me when I'm 70 because you know, that's what he's been doing, so it was funny.

Fuck, dude. So you like living in Vegas? Yeah, just the weather, but everything else is like right. Nah, bro. Too hot? Too hot, bro. Really? Do you want to be cold? Yeah, bro. I like it cold, bro. Because I just put a jacket and I'm chilling, you know? But

hot, bro, nah. It's crazy. Oh, dude, I mean, the heat's dope. I feel like the fighters like the heat. It's training the heat. Nah, bro, but this is too much. It's too much. Yeah, bro. Where are you from originally?

New Mexico. But then I grew up in Santa Rosa, California. By, like, San Francisco. Yeah, that's where I'm from. I'm from San Francisco. Oh, yeah? I'm from San Francisco. Oh, yeah?

I'm from Santa Rosa, bro. Santa Rosa. Yeah. That's kind of far. That's a nice little area. Yeah, it's pretty chill, bro. Yeah. Yeah.

God, I'm supposed to go up there and visit the family for, for the holidays, but is most of your family in Santa Rosa then? Nah, they're in Mexico, bro. Mexico? Like, I'll say, like, 85%. Do you ever go visit them in Mexico? Yeah, yeah, but it's just, like, more intense every time, bro. Why?

Like, I don't know, bro, like, uh, the hood that they live in, like that I go visit. Like, last time I went, bro, um, my, I don't know, he's my cousin and my uncle, I don't know, but I was supposed to hang out with them, bro. And then, like, I pull up to the neighborhood and then, like, I don't hear back from him, bro. And then I just hear, like, somebody got shot. Oh, it's like that. Like that, bro. What city is that?

Mexico City. Mexico City is like that? No, like some neighborhoods. I feel like all over the world, you know? Yeah. I thought Mexico City was like, cool, it was good, good to travel, easy. No, it's easy if you're in. the nice area you know like tourist place you know nothing will happen you can go like out at two

three in the morning you're chilling you know yeah but like in the wrong neighborhood bro it's like you know it's crazy yeah i mean it's still mexico yeah this is a different world man but do you when you go there are you like are you i mean i guess are you a star there or did they watch the ufc like that um i mean yeah a lot of people ask for pictures but i think where i like more people ask for pictures but i think It's probably been like L.A., bro. Yeah. L.A. is probably, like, my biggest, like, fan base. For sure.

Definitely, yeah, that makes sense. That's something that's my biggest fan base, too, is L.A. L.A. for sure, huh? Yeah. L.A., New York, Texas. I feel like I got all the Mexicans fucking with me, too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, low-key, it's weird.

I wonder why. Because it's street fights. Huh? It's because of the street fights. Yeah, yeah. So, when can I get to, you out to come train uh whenever bro i'm down train what like weights or like yeah weights and then we could do some we could roll and shit i'm down bro i'm down i'll just teach you how to

do the whole wrestling thing before christmas for sure i mean if you don't go for the holidays i'm down bro it'll be it'll be like a christmas gift for me yeah yeah for you i'll give you a gift i'll teach you how to do this all right and i'll teach you how to live bro yeah yeah perfect perfect but i appreciate you let me come to your house and let me in your home and be in hospital for real thank you both um blessing and i'm proud of you man thank you both crushing it at that age it's it's got to be a lot to balance i guess the best advice i can give you as an older man is like don't spend all your fucking money that's your money taxes are coming for you don't forget that and also um yeah as long as you're staying focused on on on it and you actually love it man what about like

In general, bro, advice, like, I mean, you got, like, cloud and shit, you know? So, like, advice, like, on girls, bro, like. Oh, you want some girl advice? Let's see it. Let's see it. Let's see it. Well, you got a girl. What you need advice for? Nah, I know, but like... Wait a minute, bro. No, no, I know. But, like, I'm saying, like, that's why I said in general, you know?

Okay, in general, like, for the boys, for the bros. Yeah, for the boys. First, well, let's make me make sure... My friend's asking, you know? For your friend. You're asking for a friend. Yeah, yeah. Got you asking. Perfect. That's good. Solid. Solid. Yeah, first off, the taxes thing is very important for you.

They're going to have to deal with that. I know you don't want to hear that and it probably sucks. I hate it too. What advice for girls as far as getting girls or keeping them? No, no, no, like I'm saying like, well, obviously when somebody has cloud, like a lot of girls are, like, I bet a lot of girls hit you up, you know? But like, how do you manage that? Oh, you're asking for a friend. Gotcha, got you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Well, I'll give you some real advice for sure. You're so young, it's hard to, it's going to be hard to say no to every opportunity. Sorry, your friend. Your friend is so, it sounds like your friend's probably so young. It's hard to say no to every opportunity. Yeah, yeah.

But the people who are there for you or if you can find someone who's like really there for you for you and not for what you have to offer or what you can give them, then those are the people you want to keep around. Whether it's a friend or a girl. Yeah. And the only way you know that truly is through like time and like those little cues that you get in the relationship. When you hear something, you're like, that's weird. Like, oh, she wants this or she wants that. The truth is your heart always knows. Like, you know in your heart what it is.

And, like, how you got to where you're at is by no surprise, right? Right. You knew it. You saw it. You acted on it. It's the same thing with all these other, like, friendships, girls. You'll hear your voice and inside and your heart go like, ah, this isn't for me or this is for me or I shouldn't mess this up. This is a good thing.

Or this isn't what I wanted to be. As long as you listen to that voice, you'll always be crushing it. Because look what it did for you in your life outside of girls, right? And obviously, I know we're joking about asking for a friend, but it's not even just for you. It's for everyone listening. Yeah. The more you listen to that voice, the way better off your life's going to be. Whether it's friends, girls, it doesn't matter.

Because you always know the truth. Like in your heart, you know the truth. Right. You know, so whatever it is in regards to a girl, you know, as far as avoiding or giving more effort or energy, if you know what that little voice is telling you, listen to it and don't avoid it. because as men, a lot of the times, we will hear it and go, ah, fuck that. Like, I'm just going to go and, I'm going to talk to this girl anyways and talk to that girl and do all this shit anyways, even though in your heart, you're like, I probably shouldn't

do this. Yeah. If that's what you're hearing, the best version of you would choose to not do it. Listen to that. That's real. Like, I promise you as a fucking older man, like, that's real advice. So, you'll know the answer. You really do have those answers.

You just kind of avoid them sometimes. do yeah yeah yeah yeah it's normal yeah that voice only gets louder though as you get older so like if you're not listening to it it'll just like yo I'm here motherfucker hell yeah but yeah for your friend tell your friend that all right I yeah I got you bro yeah you know you know hey I honestly dude I hope I hope you continue to crush it I hope you get a shot at the title and uh I'll make sure before you get a shot at the title that um I teach you how to do this properly I got you dude yeah hell yeah I got you dude go.