RAWTALK - ZIAS REACTS TO BREAKING ADIN ROSS’ GUARD ARM…
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Um, pleasure to have you, man.
Straight up, man.
We've been talking about this for a while.
Yeah.
How's like then?
It's been all right.
It's been cool, you know.
Just fucking...
Just chilling, cooling.
Doing damage, though, I see.
What you mean?
That was the arm thing.
Man.
You didn't see that?
That went crazy viral.
Did it?
Bro, I see it everywhere, all over Twitter, everywhere.
I wasn't really paying attention.
Yeah.
As you do, because, like, you've, uh, I've looked back now at some other stuff with Aiden.
You've always kind of like,
made content you always made like the big guy content you were arm wrestling like his bodyguards
in the past yeah yeah for fun but nothing like that ever happened in the past
nah um what aunt i didn't even i didn't even want i didn't even want to arm rest on him though you know
he like 300 pounds yeah he's like yeah he told me i was there the other day because we did a pot
with aiden uh for full senate he was 317 317 i'm sure i'm only 225 huge i'm like 225
2 30 yeah so like it wasn't like a call out of now i knew he was going to win he
So, like, I knew all I could do was just kind of just resist.
Yeah, hold it as long as I could.
But, yeah, that's crazy how to, how the shit, like, kind of snap like that.
Yeah.
But he's tough, though, you know.
Yeah.
He's doing a lot better than I would have.
I would have been sitting there crying, yelling.
Yeah, he just, like, he just was like, oh, shit.
And everyone was, like, super shocked.
Did it, was it loud?
Yeah, you can hear that motherfucker.
So did he break this part?
It was a rotational fracture.
So it's more so, like, his elbow area.
But when I was holding, it felt like that's what broke, though.
It looked like that because his hand was like, one, like, almost, it looked like it went limp.
Yeah.
Have you ever, have you ever been in any other, like, physical altercations?
Not because of content, just in real life in general?
Oh, wow, very.
I mean, I used to be a high head.
I'm mature, so, like, I try to, like, diffuse situations now.
Yeah.
I walk away from situations.
I don't, like, just be reacting like I want to because there's no, like, in between with me.
It's either I'm super, super calm or I'm.
Yeah. No, I get you.
I get you.
I'm a hundred.
So, let's talk.
I talked a little bit about like your whole YouTube, Brian,
because we talked a little bit on the phone a couple weeks ago.
Yeah.
You'd been doing YouTube for about six years now, almost seven?
2017, 17, so that's what?
What's the math?
17, 18, I'm terrible that math.
17, 18, 19, 20, 22.
Yeah, like six, seven years.
Yeah, about.
How did you like originally take off?
Because I went and I looked back at some of the stuff,
the reaction, like the music video stuff, that was just straight.
Like, did you see anyone doing that stuff before you did it?
Yeah, it was, so back in the day,
Around that time, it was a lot of people doing it was like the popular thing to do.
It's kind of like a meta of YouTube to like gain subs.
So when we came in.
So hold on.
So at the time, YouTube, that's what a lot of people were doing.
But you said the meta.
You mean the thing that was working?
Yeah, I noticed a lot of people was doing reactions and they was gaining subs fast at the time.
Reactions to music, reactions to anything.
Reaction to anything.
Okay.
So that's how we kind of jumped in.
But I wanted to like bring something like a different dynamic.
which is Hawaii, like the duo dynamic of it,
because it wasn't nobody doing it.
And it was singular reactions.
It was like, people were doing about themselves
and like, you know, how we do the freestyles in front of them.
Like that was like a conscious, like, you know, thing to add,
that we decided to add to that.
Because that's some shit that we do off camera,
just naturally, you know, around our friend group.
I made like the conscious decision to, like,
to stick the music in particular.
So you were interested in music more so outside of that stuff anyways?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
rap way before we started uh i used to be into like writing i used to write music before so like
you know we used to watch music video just off camera like the same way how we is when we watch
the music video that's how we is like off camera too yeah so like it was kind of like a natural
thing um i didn't start off with b lu i started off with one of my other teammates he had uh kind
of quick because he didn't really like understand the vision and that's when i hit up b lu
so what it was you were because you were doing videos with him it seemed like it was doing
okay and then it was just like uh i don't want to keep doing this because of time or is there no
money or no he ain't he ain't really understand like the bigger picture of it you know what i'm saying
he was like he was more so worried about his corporate image you know what i'm talking about and
oh shit you know what is he doing now i don't he's doing good for himself okay yeah yeah i know he's
doing good for himself but um does he ever hit you up now like damn i wish i would have done that
or along the way he just he just hit me up the check like he'll check up on me but he's a real he's a real
he don't be on the salty shit he's doing different so you know um it just more so wasn't his lane
you know i've always been like a free mind like entrepreneurship you know like just yeah yeah yeah
yeah well let's talk about that a little bit too um we'll get back into the youtube come up but
uh we ordered some man i ain't gonna lie i was i almost order some i was like man i'm gonna
surprise him i'm surprised you didn't come in here with some i really wanted to but i was
running so late man i'm so did y'all yeah no we did you put the order in yeah yeah so we
We got some wings coming.
All the flavors.
Wing season.
So when did you decide to do that?
Was this like, did you see Mr. Beast do Bist Burger?
Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
So I see Mr. Beesdo.
And I seen like his announcement.
He was like he opened, what was 2,000 stores.
I'm like, bro.
There's no way, right?
I'm like, listen, I'm not putting the pet.
I know he's capable of love, but like, it's got to be something more to it.
I did my own little research.
And I got with my agent at the time.
So I asked him about it.
He kind of gave me the scoop on like, you know, exactly what,
how you weren't about to be.
The agent or Mr. Beast?
My agent.
Yeah.
yeah yeah um and the company he did it through so we kind of reached out we reached out to the company
um and pretty much they they was like no we're not interested in doing it oh okay yeah so um
i forgot what happened so boom uh popchu which was like an upcoming startup similar to that company
that did it for mr beast yeah yeah they um they was on the rise and my agent had a relationship
with them so we kind of talked and you know we worked out and you know they was super
interested and that's how we came about yeah doing it for uh but yeah i see yeah i seen
mr b's when i was like that sounds like that sounds lucrative yeah you know it's crazy
honestly like that's i mean i i did a problem mr bese have talked to him but like it seems like
even prime with like logan paul like these like kSI these the drinks the the products from
influencers yeah seem to be the things that are going to be like the next the next ones in the next
you know five to 10 years that kind of like ks i and logan pa obviously they're trying to replace gatorade
you know all these all these like influencer own companies or influencer own brands or backed brands are
what's going to start to like flourish because it's like just as this continues this whole
influence for space there's kind of no other direction it goes in like these influencers start to
own more and more of the advertising space yeah and we're like the bigger companies have to just
keep inserting themselves with just money but not actual like relationship with uh unless they get
with someone like like an influencer and get them to like back their product but now a lot of
influencers starting to realize like i i have the ability to make my own exactly
it's cool it's really cool so does that how does that do for you like does it do well is it
because i'm over now i'm not going to lie i saw that and i was like fuck i kind of want to do some
shit like yeah yeah if you matter of fact you know i'm invested in pop chute so like we can you know
if you're trying to try to get your own shit we get your own boy like yeah we're talking to
several influencers right now to get them get their own like so they want to come up and then you
you were like i want us to do mine and then you're also like i want to i want to get equity or
something i'm assuming in them yeah yeah it's part of the deal yeah yeah smart yeah hell yeah does that
Does it like, does it produce you monthly income?
Like, how does that work?
Yeah, so it's super lucrative.
You got to realize it's not, it's not much overhead.
It's not like owning a brick and mortar like restaurant, you feel what I'm saying?
So, like, really, my only involvement was really like the recipes and, you know, and the branding.
But outside of that, my only job is to advertise it, you know, leverage my influence to push the, push the wings.
And they just handle all the backhand stuff.
Yeah.
But hell yeah, it's super.
That's crazy.
I was like fuck I want to do this I don't know what my product would be exactly right now but
I do really want to try I think we ordered the the blazing orange soda or some shit like that
there's like a flavor who made these so who made these flavors nah so my chef uh we we kind of we
came up with the flavors uh so I don't want to do like the you know the wings that you already
like the flavors you already know of think of like you know buffalo barbecue I want to like
make something like more exotic more you know just sounds catchy off the read of yeah
And that's how we came about those flavors.
But that's my least favorite flavor, though, the one you order.
Which are the ones you order?
I think we ordered all of them.
All of them, okay, yeah.
I like the sweet honey.
I just want to try them.
So hopefully they'll come here in time.
Not for sure.
Yeah, are you a boneless guy or a bone in guy?
Bone in.
Okay, I'm fucking, I like the boneless wings, man.
For real?
I'm fake, I think.
That's fake, right?
You're too grown and be in the bonoless wings, bro.
Come on, bro.
You know?
Okay, so back to your YouTube come up.
Um, when did you start to see like real, like, I guess real success?
Because you did the reactions and you did really well because I'm looking back at the views.
Um, and then you found yourself working with like like real mainstream artists.
And like how did that come about?
Because I'm always interested in that like even like for example, Aiden or these like Kai, like all these guys will get these artists to be like actually really interested in doing content with them.
Like how does that even come about?
So I ain't a lot.
I feel like we kind of bridge that.
between yeah you were that's what I'm saying you were one of the first people to do that
yeah we were one of the first people do that shit and I remember like being in the like label
offices like trying to convince them of like how how much more um beneficial would be for the
artist to like link themselves with the influences because we kind of control the youth you feel
what I'm saying exactly and but did they did they know they were like nah fuck that at first
it took not so it took a while but like um but how did you get into the how did you get into that space to even
have those conversations you know what I'm saying so all right so our our YouTube channel
grew you know relatively fast yeah we gained a million subs in seven months yeah and back then
that's insane yeah yeah so um as we was growing we got a lot of like um a lot of co-signs from
artists big and small yeah so we was building those relationships like as we was growing and it got
to the point where the labels was trying to sign us as like influencers you
you know, gain leverage or whatever.
We never signed, that's another, like, rumor.
Like, people think we signed to, like,
we never signed to any label.
You never signed to anything.
We don't even accept money for reactions, you know what I'm saying?
I turn down money all the time.
So, like, artists would come and say, like, at the time,
like, they would, they would, people would say that
you're taking money from artists to react to their stuff?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some people, like, would think, like,
we was on the payroll by the label or something.
Interesting.
But, nah, we just had, so pretty much,
we have relationship with every, all the labels.
They reached out.
They send us music to react to, you know, if we're interested or not.
But as far as the artist getting in the video with us, that had been something I was pushing for for a while.
Like, you know, because sometimes when they were out for money, I'd be like, if y'all just let the artist be in a video with us, we can make that as an exchange, you know.
That's more value.
Because that's more valuable to, like, us.
Yeah.
And really both ways because they both benefit.
At the time, were you making good money?
So I came into you.
with money okay what did you do prior to you to can't talk about that okay okay okay it's fair fair
yeah I can't talk about it fuck it it's all good we had we we was good on paper uh so but I was
always looking at the big picture you feel what I'm saying like it's never like even starting
YouTube it was never money motivated it was more so like I'm obsessed with growth like growing
shit so like yeah I knew the money's gonna come regardless so you knew to turn down that money
because you knew the value of having the artist in the video was yeah yeah for sure for sure
And at first, all I was asking artists to do was, like, give us a drop, like, a 10-second shout-out.
Like, you know, you tune in the Zis and B-Loo before we react to their music.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, I see.
Then shout-out T. Grisley.
T. Grisley, he was really the first one to, like, see the vision of what we was trying to do and get in the video with us.
And basically, it was the proof of concept.
And we reacted to a three-month-old song, and that shit did a, you know, a million views in a couple of days.
Yeah.
And you know how rappers is.
Once they see other rappers do it, they want to do it too.
And that's how we kind of just went on and went on.
And, yeah.
So how did you get with Grizzly for the first time, though?
Was it just to do, like, a label?
Nah, so he had a show in Tulsa.
He had a concert in Tulsa and, like,
that the label let us know that he was going to be in town
and that he wanted to do a reaction with us.
Because he fucked with us heavy.
Okay, so he was kind of already in looking in the scene.
Yeah, yeah, we had reacted to like two of his songs already.
So, you know, he was.
So when we was reacting to these songs
They would go viral
So like these artists would like be aware of it
And what I was doing was I was tagging them
In like the tweet
So like our fans whenever they were replied to it
They would just get all these notifications
Yeah
To sell the shit's real
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
That's like that's amazing
It's amazing because there wasn't a bunch of people
Doing that at the time when you did it
Yeah yeah
Which is cool
Yeah facts
It was a lot of like little shit I was doing
To like gain leverage
Like I remember
Do you watch BET at all?
Yeah
I did, yeah.
The Beatty Hip Hop Awards at all?
Okay, you remember like the Cyphers?
Yep.
Okay, this was before TV networks was like, taking advantage of like YouTube.
Like, none of them had like YouTube channels and shit.
This was 2017 when we started.
Yeah, this is before they had channels true.
Yeah, yeah.
So like the Cyphers, this is when the Cyphers was real big.
Like, remember like the M&M, like the Lyrical, spiritual, and all that shit.
Yeah, yeah.
So the Cyphers is really big.
I remember like that year, the Beatty Hip Hop Awards that came, they did the Cyphers, but they didn't,
the only way you can go.
The only way you can go watch the ciphers back
is if you went on the BET.com.
You feel what I'm saying?
So what we did was we reacted to every single cipher on YouTube.
So when people will search up the cipher on YouTube
hoping to see it, our shit is what popped up.
Oh, yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
Damn.
So we gained a lot of traction from that
because they'll click to see the video
but to see us reacting to it.
How did you have the foresight for that, though?
Like, how did you know that?
Just because you just knew how people were searching stuff on YouTube?
I don't know.
It just seems like common sense to me.
Yeah.
Well, it's obviously not always common, right?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
But, um.
So you go from, so you go from, like, you go from the reaction stuff to like pretty much, what,
like anything to like, oh, we're going to do hip-hop reaction.
And then you start getting artists.
And then it starts to blow up.
Because my, the thing that I'm interested right now is like, why did you stop?
Because I know a few weeks ago you did one with polo.
Polo, yeah.
And there was some of the bigger ones that I remember.
And I remember even seeing these when it was happening, the stuff with juice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How did that relationship start with Juice World?
Juice World.
Because you guys said a lot of stuff, it seemed like, to get at least sort of outside.
Yeah, man.
Shout out Juice, man.
We, he's a real good dude.
He really fucked with us heavy.
When he was on tour out the country in the UK, he had his label fly us out to come to London and basically, you know, kick it with him and do a reaction to one of his songs.
And while he was out there, we got to spend time with him.
Shout out Pete.
Shout out, uh, Bibby, you know, they cool people, and them are my people, for sure.
And that's kind of like how they started. Then, um, the second time we met was he brought us,
but he flew us out again to his crib in LA. And that's the, the more recent one we did with
the freestyle. Yeah, because that, that freestyle was like a long one, right? That was one of the
craziest clips. That's a legendary freestyle right there for sure. Yeah, man.
But yeah, he's, he's somebody, that's one of, like, the, out of all the rappers we did
reactions but he probably wasn't the one that's like embraced us as like you know regular friends
like you know yeah so how how are a lot of these people in person i would you say like are they
is it like come in and get this stuff done or is it like not a lot so here's the thing a lot of these
rappers like before they blew up they was watching us you feel what i'm saying they was kind of like
fans so like yeah the dynamic is already kind of there they already know how we is um so they're
not like it's not weird it's not awkward it's not like we meet them for the first time it feels like
we've been friends you know what i'm saying people don't see what going on people don't be
seeing what go on behind like right off the camera yeah what i'm saying like we be bobbing i can
probably only think of maybe one one one or two that was real awkward who uh because that's
all right because i saw some you seen one everybody's seen the one of them code act yeah yeah and
what what happened man i don't know man car because i
I mean, listen.
Listen, shout out Kodak, man.
Yeah, yeah.
You know.
He's cool.
That boy, yeah, cool, man.
He just, he, he, he different.
You know what I'm talking?
Yeah, I know.
I met him.
I met him.
Yeah, he most definitely the most different person I've been around rapper-wise.
But he cool, he cool as hell.
Yeah.
That just, if, yeah, I don't know.
But I would say before we got on camera, it was, we was vibing.
We was laughing, cracking jokes, dancing.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, we lit in the studio.
And as soon as I turned the camera
It was a whole different story
I was trying so hard not to laugh
The whole time
Yeah
So I'm like
I feel like
Part of me is like
Is he do it on purpose
Like to be a troll
I think that's what it was
He was trolling us
You know
Trolling and whatever
That's he was
I think he was just trolling
Then like
Because he does like
Those awkward stares
Like he did that when I met him
Yeah
And he'll like just say some wild shit
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Kind of catch you out
Yeah
But I would say
So another thing
people to know about that video is that we was in the studio for 12 hours uh we got there at 8 p.m so yeah
and he was recording for 12 hours like we had got naps in and everything so we didn't record that
video to 8 a.m. oh shit yeah so just to add context you know you probably tired yeah yeah yeah so you
did recently with polo like are you going to continue doing more of this stuff or like have you
because i like i mean if you look at yourself as a whole it looks like you kind of you backed off on
social media just as in general yeah man uh anybody to know me know like i'm not i'm not
big on fame if that makes sense it makes sense you know what i don't i'd be chilling like hard
like if you didn't like really know me you wouldn't know that i was like famous i guess because
i don't act like you know what i'll be chill i'm cool uh social media it's i'd be like i'd be
feeling forced to do social media like i have to do it because for obvious reasons but if that
answers your questions i don't know yeah so you you do did you get more enjoyment on the come-up
or is you just now you just like was it the same your dynamic your relationship too it was so like
i'm doing this just because i feel like i kind of have to or yeah yeah i feel like even even then
no no no when i was doing it it was fun and what so what changed though what shifted like did
being on the internet and like the reaction of people did that start to make you be like i don't know
how much i like this shit like what's shifted because obviously on the come up you're like yeah this is dope
and you're doing it yeah we were just having fun it was
something like we wasn't thinking of nothing you know did it change at some
college you know what I'm 30 now okay and so at some point it changed obviously
otherwise you wouldn't I don't awesome yeah I don't know probably mature I don't know
I'm probably matured I don't know what it is but I mean I still enjoy it it just you know
I also have other shit going on as well yeah they kind of takes my attention from it but
I do admit that we should be doing way more yeah content wise for sure it's not an excuse
I know the fans, you know, there's a real deal, hardcore fans who, like, you know,
and my DMs in person, they really be like, bro, what the fucking content there?
Half my DMs be like, bro, upload some content, bitch, like, be on my ass.
But I get it because, like, imagine, like, watching your favorite show on TV.
Yeah.
Then, like, that bitch just go off without, no.
Yeah, well, no.
And they come on, like, a month later, then it's like, yeah, I feel it.
So I understand.
Yeah.
And they are right.
We do need to be more consistent with our content putting up.
So do you have a plan?
to be more consistent?
Do you want to?
Like, where are you at there?
I want to be more consistent outside of reactions.
So I just want to put our content period.
I don't want to be just stuck with having to do reactions with artists.
Yeah.
Because a lot of times, one thing I was discussed with the label was, you know,
trying to find out ways that we can do content with artists without being like a reaction,
like some other like type of platform or I don't know.
I might get in the podcast.
I don't know.
Yeah. I mean, you're not bad.
is that's for sure you talk i mean obviously like all content is just like speaking really like
especially yourself it's reacting yeah yeah stuff is just like conversation anyways yeah banter
whatever um so it's i don't know it seems like do you do i don't know because i think about this like
as i've evolved because i've done content now for like 12 years like 10 years on youtube you definitely
get to a point where you're kind of like fuck like not that you don't want to do it but like your
relationship to it is completely different yeah where it's like there was
But the way it was obviously on the come up is different because then you're, you know, you're at a different point in your life.
You're obviously older.
You're thinking about things that are maybe different.
Like when I'm my early 20s when I started this, I wasn't thinking about like having a family and anything like that.
So now I'm like 33.
I'm thinking like, damn, I need a family.
I want kids.
But it's like I spend so much time so focused on just making content that it's almost like I look back and I was like, oh shit, I'm fucking 30 now.
Oh shit.
I'm 33 now.
Right.
I guess my point to say all that is like what has making content overall.
these years like what does it taught you about yourself and what do you like look forward to now
more if you continue to make more content because like if we're talking about you making more
content on different in different avenues or podcast etc right it is it starts to become like
this stuff specifically it's just more like I don't know introspective work where if we're
having a conversation about something it's like it's about being kind of just genuine with yourself
and where you're at so because I'm curious because I see your stuff and I'm like every time I look
I'm like, why does this guy not do more stuff?
Because you do show up on Aden.
You're still in the mix on all these things.
Right.
And I'm always like, why doesn't he just, like, film a vlog or some bullshit?
I saw the thing you do with Kazumi.
That was a couple weeks ago.
I saw the Polo G thing.
But, like, that was pretty much it.
And then, like, you're on Twitter here and there.
I see you.
But, like, I'm just curious.
Is it just a dissociation you don't want to do it?
I feel like it's a mindset thing.
I got to get back in that mode.
You know what I'm talking about?
because a lot of time I just don't be in that mode
I don't be in there mood
Yeah
To like it's a certain mode you have to be in
You know what I'm talking about
100% yeah
And it's either you out of it or you're in it
Yeah
And I felt myself a lot of times
It's being like bro
I don't feel like doing this shit
And it has nothing to do with money
Because people think like
Oh you've made your money
Now you became lazy
I've been
I've been
Obviously I got way more paper now
But like it's more so
I gotta get back in that mode
man i don't know what it is i just gotta get back in that mode and i feel like uh being around like
other influences it motivates me yeah more all right boys quick interruption from one of our
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And I stay in Tulsa, too.
It's not much going on out there.
Oklahoma, yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
It ain't people like us is just doing it at a high level.
Maybe you got to move.
Yeah, yeah.
Getting this bullshit over here in L.A.
It's fucked over here, man.
I mean.
I'm already, no, that's kind of why I'm standing to us, but like, I don't know.
I'm going to start coming out here a lot.
You should because you're in the mix.
It's like, and that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, why does he not do more of it?
Because it's not like you're, like, so disassociated from it.
you're like in it you're super it's like you're in there you're just like not doing it
like you show up as a character you know but you're not doing your own thing and i get it though
because like again at some point you're just like fuck now you're right because i remember it was one
one month i did like ticot collabs of like eight different people yeah and like all of their shit
went crazy like you know million views and this and that yeah and it made me realize like
damn like you know people really want to see me you know something like people really want to see
They want to, they won't content from us.
You know what I'm talking about like,
whether it's from somebody else or from us,
but like, yeah, I definitely take accountability for that,
you know, and that's not being active.
We do absolutely, like, need to cater to our fans.
Yeah.
In terms of content, you know, feeding them stuff to see.
Because sometimes I'd be like, bro, like for a vlogging example, right?
Yeah.
I'd be like, man, ain't nobody trying to see this shit.
This shit trash.
But see, yeah.
Yeah, but, and that's a problem.
Yeah.
The fan looking at it from a day.
different perspective they do want to see this shit you know what I'm not whether it's trash to you
or not because they invest in you yeah and I think this is this is a really important point to make
for people listening to because a lot of people want to do stuff like this content in general and a lot
of people will film and I did this when I first started I film a lot of content a lot of people
film content and they go I look at it and I watch myself and I'm like I sound stupid I look stupid
it's not good enough but the reality is like people don't care that much they're just like
they just want to see something and then I think it's important for people to know that
once people kind of get invested in you, they just want to know more about you.
They want to know what you do because people get so caught up on it having to be a specific way,
almost because I think they look outward on other people's content and they see how it is
and they go, oh, mine's not like that, so it's not good enough.
And then you just don't even start or you're not even making content.
And then it's like you're getting nowhere.
That's facts.
So back to the question, though, what has all this time, at least this last six,
whatever years of you being on YouTube?
What does it really taught you?
I guess the question is about yourself and about other people.
Maybe that you don't give a fuck about making content sometimes?
Nah, see, anybody that knows me,
I don't give a fuck about shit, period.
Like, I'm just so nonchalant, like, out of touch.
You think it's a good thing?
It could be a good or bad thing.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I'm too nonchalant for my own good.
You know, I'm talking about, like,
and it's a good thing because I don't let,
I don't, like, let anything, like,
I'm able to detach myself from any type of emotional.
Yeah, shit don't fester.
Yeah, I don't be fayed like that.
but um as far as other people i don't like what type of people like people like people in
general or yeah people in general or your experience with people within the space uh within this
space i mean bro you got to play the game like you know you know how that shit goes yeah niggas
you just got to play the game you can't expect you from everybody else you can't expect you from
everyone else like you can't expect how you know whether it's your mores how you stand on
your principles from everybody else you know yeah you know everybody got their own motives you kind
of you know know how to wiggle around it and no it's actually really significant yeah that's actually
one of the one of the coolest ways i've i've heard it put like you can't expect you for everyone else
because that makes sense man like i think a lot of the reason why people have issues with other people
is because they go into situations and everyone has assumptions based on like themselves or someone
else right right and maybe there's not enough communication to understand each other and then but they
expect most people to like walk the way that maybe they would walk in a sense of treat me
how I treat you but everyone's got their own like perception of things and then you end up creating
all these problems because maybe expectations weren't fully understood right because they were
just expected because someone goes well I'm like this so why are they like that because I and when
you said that reason why I'm responding this way is because I can look back on my life and I have so
many situations where I'm like why did this person do this to me I didn't do anything bad
to them right but just because that is how I felt doesn't mean like
Maybe my problem was walking into that situation,
just assuming that if I'm being good,
this person will be good.
And I've been fucked over so many times
because of that kind of shit.
So with this streaming stuff,
the stuff you've done with Aiden,
have you, have you like,
has it helped you sustain outside of you making your own content?
Just because Aiden's such like a massive character?
I would say so, yeah.
You know, I feel like every time I mean Aiden language,
something you go viral.
People love our dynamic.
I just can't believe that.
his arm forgot it's so fucked you said what that all i just can't believe it's arm dude that sucks yeah
man he he holding that well though i mean it's he because you know it's crazy they told him like
there's really nothing they could do yeah you just put it in a sling it's like it's like when you
mess a finger up they just like can put it straight and just wish for the best have you ever had any
injuries like that any injuries in general not tore my meniscus um in the car wreck but that's about
it yeah that was out for a year you you did it stop you from training because I know you
take training pretty consistently nice play football I play college football but now you
but now you train like consistently oh yeah I mean yeah just like a weekend warrior like you
you really get down no I'm not I'm not like you know I say I don't you I get it in though
but it's more so just I play football I started playing football seven grades so like we
that's work at working out as part of like you know the sport so
yeah um i kind of just you know try to like upkeep my body and my health yeah by working
up and it's a good like mental release too did that did that start because of football and it
yeah yeah yeah that's what happens for most people yeah yeah's what i'm saying yeah's for
you eat healthy or you just like eat wings all the time uh i eat healthy i mean for the most but
i eat healthy pretty healthy i don't eat i guess wings aren't even that bad and i think about it
depends what kind of they're just fried but that's the only thing bad about them yeah but it's not
I mean, everything's good in moderation.
I don't just be eating wings every day.
Obviously, I was fucking with you.
I just fuck with you just because the wing season.
Nah, facts.
But, uh...
Everything is good in moderation.
Yeah, he's actually very true.
He can drink whatever.
But you don't drink at all?
Nah.
I drank before.
Yeah, I don't...
I'm not a big drinker.
Yeah.
I don't even smoke.
Weed or cigarettes.
I don't smoke at all.
Nothing.
Have you ever?
I can't think of the last time I did.
Yeah.
I've got two phases.
with that where like I've done it for time and then like a few months and I stop because I get
bad anxiety if I smoke too much so I just like I'll notice I'll be like oh I'm good I can smoke
and the next you know I'm like tripping about something I lose thrown though oh I love mushrooms
I should was going to do something today before this podcast on it I was just like fuck it
seriously not like a bunch but like a small like a micro dose yeah that's what I be done
so you don't just take tons of money have you ever taken like an actual heroic dose yeah
how many times twice yeah that's what's up have you ever done anything else other
like psychedelics?
I did some crack before.
Really?
No, I'm playing.
It's funny because we were, it's, you know, no, no, no.
We were just talking about crack the other day with the H-stream.
We were talking about crack, how it's like the same.
I guess it's a little different, though, how it's made, the same as cocaine, crack.
Yeah, yeah.
Crack is just like remixed cocaine.
Remixed cocaine.
Yeah, yeah.
Because we were trying to understand how it actually made you feel, which would have been
funny if you actually took it.
No
Fuck that
Damn
You threw me off
So how do you ever
You never taken any other
Psychedelics like acid
Or anything like that
No
No
I've heard about acid though
What about ayahuasca
Ayahuasca
Yeah
That is
You never heard of that
Oh that's like the craziest
I did that like
How long ago
A couple months ago now
Like a month ago
What it made you feel like
Bro like
I don't even know how to describe it that quickly.
It's kind of like mushrooms and like somewhat in the visual, somewhat in the feeling, but it's like, I don't know, everything.
It's like kind of in your subconscious, like things you worry about or anything that's there.
Not just necessarily just worries, but everything that's kind of like deeper is like, it's like right up here and you're like you have to confront it.
I know.
I couldn't do nothing like this.
It's pretty, it's intense.
It's good though.
I think you'd like it.
It didn't make you like, it didn't fuck you up after.
like no I actually feel better did you yeah better better than I've probably ever felt to be
honest man but you do it in a way it's all about the container you do it in doing in a way that's like
you don't just sit in your couch and fucking take iwaska it's like did people do it and i did in like
the ceremonial fashion where it's like purposeful and intentional where was you at uh my backyard
i had someone come like guy oh got you yeah so no other drugs no it's good man just gonna call
the feds feel like we got them no fuck it around so
Would you ever do streaming or is that not for you?
You just like the, just like content post it?
I used to stream.
Yeah.
A while big.
I tried to stream this shit was fun, but it's so.
The thing is, see, I have like a social battery and it's like, once that motherfucker to go out is like, I don't know how these niggas be screaming for like seven, eight hours.
Yeah, 10 hours.
That's crazy to me.
Yeah.
After an hour, I'd be like, man, I'm ready.
Well, God's 21, though.
You know?
Man.
So, and so many people want us to start.
I mean, B-Lu artists and B-L streams.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Yeah, I don't know.
Probably.
You think you would?
Probably.
What do you think, because you were talking about earlier about getting back into content,
what kind of content do you think you'd want to do more of it?
Sound like you wanted to do more like vlog type stuff.
Yeah, vlog type stuff.
Really just the YouTubey shit, like, you know.
Yeah.
I just outside of, we still going to do the reactions,
but just outside of that, just the YouTubey shit, you know.
Yeah.
The shit that you see most, a lot of YouTube are doing.
Just putting out on.
A little mixing, a fashion in it.
Yeah.
Come get a workout with me.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got to get a workout vlog in, man.
How often do you work out?
Normally every day.
Lately it's been crazy because of this new gym opening in Encino.
How many gyms you got?
Do you just open a new one?
This is so, I have one now.
It's going to turn to like a private gym for like trainers.
Okay.
And then the new one is Encino.
So technically it'll be two gyms.
But the one will be the one that's like people could actually show up in Encino.
That's what's up.
But I'm like, that shit is so expensive, bro.
Is it?
Oh, my God.
Crazy expensive.
Starting up or maintain the whole thing?
The whole thing.
Honestly, like, I always wanted a gym.
I always wondered, like.
Oh, how much it would cost?
Because my homie on the gym out in Tulsa.
Yeah, it's definitely different here in LA.
Because where the new gym is at now, it's on Ventura and Havenhur.
So it's in like on Ventura Boulevard and Encino.
Yeah.
And it is fucking expensive, man.
The buildout obviously was a little rush.
It was like a little like double price.
It was pretty shitty, but the actual rent of the space itself is 36,000, which is insane.
Obviously, it's, it's different, even if in California, it's always more expensive, but if I went to, like, a warehouse area, it'd be, like, cheaper because it's off the strip.
But I don't know, I kind of, I just really wanted to see, like, genuinely if it can do well there.
Because then if, like, if it can do well there, then that bitch can do well anywhere.
So in that type of business, in the gym business, how do you, where is most of your revenue coming from?
Yeah, whereas how do you recoup, I guess?
Yeah, so for me specifically, for zoo culture,
it would definitely be obviously memberships,
but then the bigger portion would be day passes
because so many people would travel to L.A.
and they want to go make content
or they want to meet influencers,
they want to see people.
Obviously, you train at the gym as well,
but because it's built this whole, like, social media
following around the space,
because years ago, I mean,
my gym was probably one of the first gyms
that was like just four creators,
seven years ago,
when I opened it up.
So people would come to make content there
because they knew that like,
you know,
when you have a membership there
and you have a day pass,
you sign you agree that like
you might be in the background
of someone's film because I built it
for myself essentially in that sense
where I'm going to film content
because I was getting kicked out
at other gyms.
So I was like,
I want to open a space where I could film content
comfortably.
Originally it was just for that.
And then I was like,
why not have,
try and make it a gym?
And then it became what it is.
And then other people would come in to film content
and then other creators would be there
so then other creators would know that
or people who wanted to come up
would know that to like see them,
to try and kindle relationships and make content.
So the day pass was probably one of the most valuable things
because people from all over the world
would essentially come be like,
oh, I watch your videos, I'm from here, I'm in L.A. for this.
You know, because a lot of people go to L.A.
just to go to L.A. to visit other things.
So they would show them to the gym as well
just to like try to find me or try to find one of their favorite creators.
So the day pass is actually really lucrative for that type of gym.
Yeah.
Obviously like membership stuff, there's like, you know,
what they call typically like pro shop.
stuff would be like just shop stuff like yeah no drinks but but day pass is probably the
biggest thing people show up but I'm really excited about this space super excited are you in
LA on the 14th that's that's the that's the end of this coming week that's your
grand opening no I'm being I'm not gonna be in no damn it's gonna be party you gotta pull
come back dude yeah I might I ain't gonna back you got a girl in your life or anything
is that always that's a question that I don't like when people ask me that
I say too fed of her right now man
Yeah, that's funny.
Oh, God.
Okay, so if we're not talking about girls,
what about dating in the space?
How, has it, has it difficult?
For me, no.
No.
No, you know, you're funny.
You're a different topic on that or what?
I don't know.
Can you talk about it?
I guess I mean like, like, not like is it difficult for you to get girls?
More like being in the space and like people, you know,
you date someone and they kind of know,
you do this you do that do you ever find people like trying to get some shit from you or
trying to like be in places and position themselves yeah i feel you're talking about like yeah i feel
like girls not being genuine yeah i mean i'm not you got to be a sucker though like to get sucked
like yeah you know i'm not a lollipop ass nigga like you can't just sucking me like yeah i don't
even give i don't even give up that type of aura to where a girl could feel like she could
take advantage yeah of me in any way
shape or form no i don't i don't i don't have those issues because like i said i'm not like i
could read into it like i know yeah i could tell if a girl's gentleman or not could you tell
could you tell when you first got in the industry you always knew well yeah i realized we played
college football oh so you already like you know popular like college football players are kind
of like yeah yeah micro famous a little bit yeah yeah so in that's in that in that city in that
yeah exactly so we already used to that kind of like behavior and behavior yeah interesting
you were vetted before you even got to the social media game right that's funny do you have
kids or anything no kids man damn you're like me bro you want kids i ain't a lot i want to be like
gangis con oh stop you got to get started now then because that dude had you said you want to be like
gangis gone yeah well like you know you need to get started yeah i'm trying to yeah i'm trying to
you're trying to have a lot of kids then because he had damn near like that's a crazy state what's the
It's that like, what was it, half the population?
Yeah, like East Asia or something like that.
He's like his kid.
Yeah, it's a real, that's a real thing.
So you got to get started, bro, because I think he got started earlier.
That's crazy to be, I'm going to be like getting his gun.
Yeah, it's a crazy stat.
I don't know that.
Can someone pull that up?
It's actually like 50 something percent of everyone is like a descendant.
How many kids did he had?
Like, I don't, I think he had was probably getting girls pregnant every day or something.
Yeah.
Because I think back then it was like,
like crazy they were just having like crazy orgies and shit and it must have been just like killing people
then having sex it must have been like that's all he did was kill and then have sex that's crazy
because i think it is legit like 50 something percent anyone pull that up any other uh motivators
motivators like that or influences like that anyone actually really motivate you um i'll be motivated
by how i put this like the you're a good example right i was looking a while back maybe last year
early last year.
I did not know that raw was your company.
Raw gear.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I'm like, I'm inspired by, like I said,
I like growing things, you know what I'm saying?
The fact that you built and grew raw
into what it is, I'm sure that's, you know,
a multi-million dollar company.
Yeah.
It's literally everywhere.
I didn't know what was yours.
That's cool.
That's cool as fuck to me.
I'm inspired and motivated by stuff like that.
You know what's like, for example,
you have a, what's, what's, what's, name a rapper?
Like Little Baby, for example, right?
You know, it's a lot of people that would look up to Little Baby,
but I look up to the person that put a little baby in position.
I see what you're saying.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like the Peas, the Coach Kay's, you know,
the Birdman's, the Diddy's, the, you know, Godis, you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, the real movers.
Right.
Yeah.
The people who like behind the same is that they're still on the same,
but behind the same, but it's like putting other people in position.
So, like, yeah, the, the movers, like you said.
Yeah. What about it, though? Just because you, is that what you want to do more stuff like?
You want to be more behind the scenes? But you just see because there's so much value there, I guess,
to be able to put someone else in a position that, like, they're so successful.
Yeah, that's, that's, I think that's the greatest thing you can do as a person in position
is to put somebody else in position or to inspire somebody. Yeah. To be in that position.
You need to be hustling for your last name and not your first.
You know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah.
When you're hustling for yourself, you know, you're just thinking about yourself.
You're not really, but you need to be hustling for generations after you.
Yeah, legacy.
Yeah, absolutely.
And those people that I mentioned, you know, kind of like what you're doing.
I mean, your kids, kids don't eat off of the, you know what I'm not just what you're doing as a YouTube,
but they can't make money off your, what you're making right now as a YouTuber or a podcast,
but they're going to eat off of it.
the brands and things that are doing outside of you're building yeah that's what motivates me when
i see shit like that like what mr bice is doing right now is crazy insane i don't even he human
yeah he's a fucking that guy's a robot dude he's just on a different level the thing that i find
so interesting about mr b and i didn't really get to go into too detail on this in the podcast
that i did with full send but it's like how quickly he was able to develop a good team around
himself because developing a team is one of the hardest things and that matters
it's huge it's massive because you can't do everything yourself remember when you how you so to your earlier
question i feel like if we had a team like some type of structure we'd probably be way more productive
than we are because we don't do we do everything ourselves literally we don't have a manager we have
agent but it's not like a contractual agent you know somebody that helps us out pops up gets you deals
here yeah yeah no yeah that's it i mean it's it's it's like mr beast the fact that he was able to
to find the right people so fast at such a young age
is honestly really impressive to me.
Part of me feels like YouTube just like,
was like, here it is.
I don't know, I don't know, man.
I feel like YouTube loves that guy.
And they were like, yo, we got, we got a plan for you.
He's talking about beforehand or like now?
No, like as he blew up into it and there was like.
Oh, yeah, you know, he's on a separate contract with YouTube than everybody is.
They're like homies.
Yeah, they're not, you know, everybody gets the accents and like you got the preferred
that sense yeah the Google he's on a whole like separate contract like it has to be yeah yeah like
it's different like before he even uploads like they go through like he's he might never fall
off as well yeah yeah yeah like yeah he's like when i think of youtube i think of mr beast i think
a lot of kids probably do too like straight up like he's almost like they're like when people think of it
they think of that guy first man he's such such a massive star on youtube but that's still regardless
I'm so impressed by how fast he was able to create a team like in a good one because I've gone
through so many different like phases where like you have someone and then the shit falls off
you spend a year you teach you give you help them and then they like they go do something else
or it's crazy man like even to your point about like being being a mover like moving stuff
and being behind the scenes or putting people on like man I put people on who fucking
stab me in a back and drum that shit down my back like in the worst kind of ways man so I think
I think the thing it's interesting in this whole space is
you got to get like really thick skin
but then at the same time learn how
not to have your skin so thick
that you don't continue to look for
other good opportunities or other good people
because it's tough man
you definitely get to a point where you get fucked over enough
and you're just like everyone's bad
no true you know
and I've definitely felt like that
in many situations man
like there's so much shit that I've been dealing with
the last few months it's actually kind of fucking crazy
and hopefully at some point I could talk
about it but you know I can't because a lot of it's like pending things it's pretty
interesting but to you know you talk about me as someone who like you you pointing me as an
example that kind of shit what I'm saying like I appreciate it it also comes with so much shit
on the back end man I bet like because when you start involving yourself with people especially
in the way when it's like actual changing you know business and finance for someone to such a
crazy degree.
People just get fucking greedy, man.
I bet, yeah.
Yeah, they get greedy.
They get power hungry.
It's like, oh, no, I have this now because of me and only me.
And it's like, damn, it's like, it shit hurts.
It hurts.
But I try not to get like, I don't know, I try not to get bogged down because I still have
so much more I want to do.
Yeah.
But yeah, anyways, not to, this shit's not about me.
It's about you right now.
I'm not going to get into fucking crazy.
I guess I'm like, that's just on my mind heavy right now just because I've been dealing
with a lot of shit.
Yeah, for sure.
What else do you want to do besides, like, the wing stuff?
And what else do you do as far as income besides the YouTube, besides the wing stuff?
What other businesses?
I mean, I got a lot of, I'm in real estate, all that stuff.
Yeah.
In college, I was doing a lot, like, a lot of the stuff that's, like, popular down,
like drop shipping and, what's like some, like, this other thing that you're talking about?
I was doing a lot of that stuff as a kid.
Yeah, like I've always been like internet savvy, that makes sense.
Yeah, I'm like, I was, I've always made money on the internet before I got famous.
Whether it was drop shipping, whether it was, you know, buying and flipping stuff.
But, I would say mainly right now is, I can't talk about it, man.
Wait, wait, what is this shit?
Bro, this is so funny.
Listen, man.
Real estate.
What are you doing out there in Tulsa?
I'm chilling, man.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
This is funny.
I didn't mean to come with the Fed questions.
I'm just curious, man.
That's why, because, like, I'm going to be honest.
I'm looking.
I'm like, this guy makes, what is he doing?
He's not making content.
What the fuck is he doing?
I'm impressed, man.
Whatever you're doing, it's working.
Real estate stuff, all that.
It's impressive.
No, I got, I got, listen, I know very,
I know a lot of powerful influence with people.
Yeah.
Well, not influential, but like a lot of powerful people with a lot of fucking money that you would never even know existed, right?
Yeah.
And they've previewed me to information and knowledge of how to make real money.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And you realize, damn, that's how all these billionaires and millionaires make money.
Yeah.
But you can't talk about what that is?
I've utilized that information and knowledge.
Yeah.
And let's be clear, I make a lot of money from YouTube now, even without uploading, like just sponsors, you know, I mean, you know that.
Yeah, right.
But, yeah, I have several other investments and several other plays, we call them plays, that I'm involved in that are very lucrative.
Is there anything else like the wing stuff you want to do?
Not necessarily restaurant, but anything out like frontward facing, branding, brands, products.
I want to open, I mean, I want to.
I want to open up a restaurant.
I want to open up a Nigerian.
Have you had Nigerian food before?
Not specifically, I can't say.
Foo, Agoosey.
No, I can't say specifically.
Yeah, yeah.
Is there any around here in L.A.?
Yeah, hey, Monti, I'ma.
What city?
Inglewood.
Okay.
Veronica's Kitchen.
I do want to open up a Nigerian restaurant
and toss a...
What was your question?
Are there any more front-facing brands
or things like projects?
or products that you, like, would want to be involved in
or want to, you know, create, et cetera.
I definitely want to tap into the music industry,
like the music business with, as far as, like,
signing artists and growing them and shopping them out to labels.
Yeah, basically, I want to jump into the music industry.
I feel like there's an opportunity there
with my influence and my relationships.
Yeah, definitely to leverage social,
help build people up for sure that's the thing though that's what I'm saying man like you
you know you build people up like you never you're never afraid of like building someone up
and then you're like thanks go fuck yourself because that happens bro that I do but you know
you got to move right with that yeah you know paperwork yeah I mean even with paperwork people
and just say peace out yeah but then you have to then you got to pay a lawyer to get what's
of yours. I'm already knowing you. It's crazy. California is crazy. I mean, the legal system's
fucking crazy in general. Are you from out here? Kevin? I'm from San Francisco. Okay. Yeah. I'm born and
raised and moved down here when I was like 19, Orange County, moved all throughout LA and then
eventually settled out this way. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm from Angua. I grew up, I moved to Nigeria
when I was six. How long do you live there? About three years. Well, five years total, maybe.
And then you went back to, to Tulsa? So I moved out.
I got there, came back when my mom got her college degree.
Then I moved back again, and my mom got remarried.
She moved to Texas, so I moved to Texas.
And that's where I went to high school.
I love Texas.
What city in Texas?
Dallas.
I love Dallas, man.
Yeah.
I want to open the gym out there.
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big gym I have a random question yeah go ahead because you mentioned how you used to write music and
obviously you're around a lot of artists and I mean you say you want to go in the music industry
do you ever see yourself going back and like making music yourself or like actually producing or being
Yeah, yeah, I want to do that
Yeah, I want to do it
Yeah, I definitely want to get back into that
Like you on the front end
No, no, no, I don't want to be artists
Okay, you just want to write music
Yeah, I want to be, I want to be behind the scenes
Well, that's a good fucking gig
You just got to be able to get there
I mean, I'm assuming you know what I'm su
I write music like, it's not, I'm not talking about
You probably think of rap music like
No, I write country, R&B like
You write it all?
Yeah, man, that's like a
it's a
it's an ability
yeah that's
dope that I have like I could write from different people's perspective
no matter the what genre
you should write me a song like I used to do that
like I have a whole
computer with hella reference tracks
do you have any any work out there now
no no no no that's what I never
so after we had got on
that was kind of that was kind
so that was kind of the reason
one of the reasons we started you to
was to put ourselves in position
To be able to do that
Yeah, to be able to do that
So why did you not do it?
Just, I don't know
This shit was trash, huh?
Now it is
Because it's outdated
You know, I'm just
Fucking with you
No, it ain't
It just, I don't know
It's like
I'm sure you heard
You've heard like a lot of
successful people
That are doing other things
That were trying to do
Something else before
Yeah
And you'd be like
Well, why don't you do it now?
It's like, I got too much
going on with what I'm doing now
Yeah
that I'm not really focused on what I was trying to do back then.
Yeah, I get it.
So eventually I probably will.
You know what I'm what I?
Yeah.
I mean, that's something you could do forever behind the scenes.
Yeah, for sure.
And I know that's super lucrative because it's like, I don't know how they divide those like, you know, they made the most money.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, they make the most money.
Which is crazy.
There's also a funny thing I think, like, you know how like people like Drake or some of these artists would get so much shit for writers, but a lot of, like, a lot of music in general is written from other people.
Yeah, yeah, so it's, but they'd be having, like,
writing camps, like, literally, like,
it's a room, it's a house full of, like, 20, 30 writers
that just write music to come up.
I think to think, like, that one person is doing everything
all the time is kind of crazy.
I do think Drake writes and stuff,
I think that was just blown out of proportion,
but, like, every artist, they get reference tracks,
you know what I'm saying, whether there's a hook,
you know, where there's, you know,
yeah, every artist gets reference tracks.
Yeah, helpful melodies.
Yeah, melody is stuff like that, yeah.
Because it's, it's, it's,
it's obviously yeah I do I do genuinely believe Jake writes most of the shit just because like it seems like all his shit is so congruent like it all makes sense yeah but like I think it's interesting for people like where they attack people like that because it's you know creative in general like a lot of the greatest even content
take music aside they have a team of people that helps them like you know orchestrate content uh-huh and I think that's how you you know obviously just you're able to sustain something for so long as well right because like if it's just your mind just doing it you kind of you know you only have so much
bandwidth and then someone give you a little piece of information go oh that sounds cool I'll try
this yeah I think about too like as an artist like you busy as hell from like just doing shows
you're always on the road you're always like it's performing it's kind of like hard to like come
like would come up creatively with things on and over and over again yeah in the studio when you're
just so busy with everything else yeah is would you say like that's maybe why you stopped doing
so much content because you were busy with other things and that you were just like weren't
giving the energy towards creating the content.
It's a little bit of that.
And what I mentioned earlier, just like not being in that mode.
The same space.
Yeah, the same, like, you know, yeah, that mode.
It makes sense.
Do you have any other questions for me?
Oh, yeah, get them.
Perfect.
I'm hungry.
Wayne's coming in.
Yeah.
What made you start the podcast?
Start the podcast?
Yeah.
Well, I had done podcasting for, damn.
I did this podcast originally, like almost five years ago.
gym and uh just because i liked the format and then i didn't sustain it because i had friends
who was doing it with we stopped doing it because like they so they get families have kids and then
i did it again by myself and i wasn't able to sustain just because i was so consistent with my
other content yeah kind of like what you were talking about kind of getting focused on other
shit and then i came back around um about a year and a half ago now with this version of it and i just
like the the format the branding everything i was more like okay i'm set on just doing this and i kind
kind of just made that conscious everywhere.
I was like, okay, I'm not going to flop this shit.
Like, I'm not going to, because, like, again, I did it.
And then it kind of fell out because of other reasons.
And I did it myself.
And it fell out because of mine, just straight up, just negligence because I'm doing
other shit.
And then I came back to it again, again, a year and a half ago now.
And it was like, yo, I really like this and I want to continue it.
And I think it's what I enjoy the most as far as content in general.
And it's cool because people love this shit now.
Yeah, yeah.
Like six years ago, people were like, what the fuck?
No one would listen to this shit.
Right.
Everybody's doing a podcast.
Yeah.
But it's like, you know, it's shit that people want to see, too.
Yeah.
I think it's interesting, too, because it's almost like we've gotten to a spot because
so many people have made so much content.
Obviously, there's brand new creators that are popping, but so many people have made so much
content for so many years, like doing a thing, like reacting videos or like music stuff
or basketball stuff or vlog stuff.
And it's like kind of like you put it on a show.
And then this shit is like who people really are.
Right.
And I think people are starting to like find a lot more value in that.
than just outward facing shit that you're doing you know so i think there's just more value in this
overall i think is like if you listen to someone if you're willing to listen to someone speak about
something like you probably get so much more out of it than watching them like logan paul used to
fucking break plates or some shit in vlogs and some wild shit because that's what it was back in
the day it was like just do crazy shit and get people to react now it's like i think people
are really enjoying just the more substance in it so right that's why i love it and that's why
i continue to do it yes what's up man yeah we can get these wings in here
And so, by the way, too, we'll do this while we're eating the wings, but at the end of every episode, there are, we do audience questions, we do three of them, she'll read them off, and then we'll just answer them.
But yeah, let's wait for these wings.
Yeah, I don't know what flavor this is, but, um, but you got bone, this, we got to get the bone, the bone, you know, the bone, you know, the bone, you know, the bone, you know, the bone, too, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I don't like it, though. Oh, I like this. I don't like bone in.
For real?
Yeah.
Oh, this fire.
so it's like
weed in it
what
this got weed in it
no
not not actually
weeding it
you know how you know
you know
you know it's so funny
when I look at wings
and stuff
you know what flavor
you're gonna like
just based off what it looks like
I swear
I knew I was gonna like this one
well don't eat all of them
try the other flavors
I really like this one
no I don't know what flavor this is
but I like this one a lot
I have no idea
I had that one
oh I like that one
the most though whatever that was the best one bro this is fire like you bite it and you put it back
and then you pick up another one up what for this one looks what the hell is that it's probably the uh
what are you doing oh what the fuck are y'all doing over there carolina gold this is good this a carolina gold
yeah so if you guys want to submit your questions go to ask raw talk at gmail.com the first question
is so i have this woman i have been with for two plus years and i truly love her as well as she loves me i was going
the gym before I met her and was overweight lost 60 pounds began to count macros eat right
all that fun stuff within a relationship the gym has become a second to her and it's very
important to me she knows this as well she doesn't like me eating properly and I only go to the
gym around her schedule what wait wait wait wait wait wait why you're the rest of this shit
but like I had to get to the question give me a second you already I already get the answer
though okay but I want to get back into the thing I love how can I do this without cause
causing us problems.
Yo, okay.
I already had the answer before you finished it.
Obviously, you're not trying to cause problems,
but if you have someone in your life that is like anti-doing good for yourself,
that's not a sustainable relationship.
I just want to be honest.
Like, if there's a woman in your life who's like,
I don't like that you eat so healthy,
I don't like that you go to the gym.
Like, there's something inside of her that she's not happy about with herself.
Otherwise, she wouldn't be projecting that sort of information
or that sort of energy towards you to not do good for yourself.
there's no benefit there so you may love her i'm not saying dump her i would have a conversation
with her and say like where where is this coming from like why why would someone because if you're
writing this message right now saying that she doesn't like that i do this she doesn't like that
i do that like that has to be secondary to her that's crazy like you're you're now you're living
your life based on someone else's opinion of like what's right and wrong technically for themselves
and they're placing that on you and now you're you're affecting your life and your your health for
someone else negatively because they don't want you to do something like eat good that's that's
the craziest shit i ever heard so i don't know how you feel about that but no you spot on yeah
it's what if she like oh no you spot on with it yeah like like is i'm saying like okay
maybe she wants to eat shitty food sometimes sure and you want to eat it too fine but if someone's
giving you this like no like why do you always do that like you why are you doing good for yourself
it's just a fucking like he's projecting not project i don't know what the word is but you think like he's
forcing that on her though like i don't know lifestyle on her like as far as like eating and
working up and that's not what she's into because she what if she because you said he lost
all that weight right he was like fat and whatever if she was oh was she with him when he was fat
yeah yeah oh i see you're going with this you feel what i'm saying yeah like it's probably
making her feel a little insecure that he's going to the gym so much or is that what you're
going to say well i guess like i'm guessing she's fine she she has no issue with her
you know what I'm saying and she's able to eat however she won't and still you know
look all right you think maybe like him trying to force that on her as that's what's making
her like give her make her have pushback we definitely have enough information but I still think
it's just simple I would have a conversation excuse me yeah um regardless I have a conversation with
her and just be like this is where I'm at my life this is what's important obviously like you
can't make it important for someone else you can't make someone wanted the same way you
on it but if someone's telling you don't do these things that are good for you because i don't
want you to or because i'm not doing them as well that's just a weird dynamic that like won't
sustain so i think it's enough you just have a conversation and just say hey this is where i'm at
and if they can understand you then then great you guys can move forward and you know hopefully
eventually she gets motivated by it if not fine fuck it but they shouldn't demotivate you to not want
good for yourself or not want to be healthy etc so right right but yeah give us the next one
so this person asked a very generic question they said what is the most
essential supplement that you take and what's your stack look like I guess I
I said like what supplements do you take every day together and shit yeah like what do
you like when you what's your routine like when you wake up if you take any
supplements at all or if you don't I don't take a pre-work out like a branded
pre-workout I kind of make my own I do like a greens mix it's like you know it
has like fruits and essential vegetables in powder form.
I mixed that with curating, better al-anine, and cacao powder.
Damn, that's fire.
That's a good mix.
How do you learn about that?
Specifically the cacao thing I'm most interested in.
How did you learn about that?
I'm, I'm into that stuff.
Really?
Me too.
Yeah, I'm really into it.
Really?
Yeah, we got to talk more.
No, I'm African.
Like, spirituality is our stuff.
thing. Yeah. I know all about, I'm well versed and all of that stuff. Like, um, then
afterwards, you know, I just take, you know, protein. But I do vegan protein, uh, I don't
do it. You're talking about a shake? Uh, like a protein shake, yeah. I don't, uh, take weight
protein. And, uh, as far as, so I take, um, just on a daily, I take turmeric, um, actual
Uganda, chlorophyll, what I got right now,
Bacopa, and the Seymus.
Damn.
Who got you on to all that?
That's a good.
That's a good stack.
Yeah.
Legit.
And Lines, man, mushroom.
But who got me on?
Nobody got me on to do it.
There's just stuff out.
You just learned that over time?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm impressed.
I was not expecting that.
For real.
A lot of people be, like, a lot of people be, like,
a surprise when they hear me talk, that type of stuff.
Those are all, like, really solid supplements.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm fucking eating.
I'm sorry.
I can't.
I mean, what I'm saying, though,
most people don't know about all that stuff.
I mean, a lot of people know about Ashtonogon
because it became really popular on the internet the last few.
But, but Copa.
I'll explain my stack in another episode.
I got a video coming for you guys soon.
No way.
So, I'm just not going to answer.
right now um give us the next one
all right so i've been together now with my ex-girlfriend for two years and we just
ended things without going into too much detail it was a mutual breakup i can't stop thinking
about her um seeing her move on hurts more than anything the funny part is getting over her isn't
the hard part it's wanting someone else i wanted her you think it gets easier and then that was
it damn he really loved her if he's just he can't go
over um yeah 100% it gets easier everything gets easier in time i mean i wish i had more to say in regards
to that but excuse me that's that's the thing that heals everything i mean straight up time is
going to give you perspective not just necessarily the whole like you're healing because you're
not thinking about it as much because you've thought about it already so much that it fades away
it dissipates but the time that it gives you to create perspective on like what your relationship
actually was or what you actually wanted to be i think the important thing is
look back on it not in this like negative lighter or the don't look forward and also in the negative
light where i don't have it she's gone try to understand what you what you like enjoyed about that
relationship and try to understand things you didn't enjoy like try to like really
pinpoint how certain things made you feel and why they made you feel that way because it's
going to allow you to move forward into whatever the next phase of your life is relationship wise
to really be as present as possible to make that next thing work better i mean every every relationship
if you move forward whether it works or not like it is a learning experience so don't uh don't just
move forward and be looking like man i wish i had that i wish i had this try to look at why
like what were the moments and why were they important to you so you could really understand
yourself so but yeah i'm the worst person that i'm like fuck that bitch
fucker let her go right i mean i think you get caught up too much in uh and girl i mean shit
i'm i'm one of them i've i've had so many issues with like
just getting caught up and shit that, uh...
Are you, are you a relationship type of guy?
Like, do you like, do you like relationships?
Yeah.
I'm just like, I don't know, man, I'm figuring it out.
Yeah.
Just like, what do you really want is the question, right?
And then you can kind of understand how to move forward in it all.
Because I think a lot of people, you know, kids or people who ask these questions,
like, I think questions like that stem from not really knowing truly what you really want
because you get so caught up in what a person meant to you
that you kind of lose sight of yourself.
Right.
And it's like, you know, for him hard to move forward to the next one
because he's so caught up in the last one,
then you just find yourself in this weird position of like not really learning
because you're just thinking about what it was.
So you're afraid to go forward to find out like what it can be.
So you got to let it go, man.
And it's hard for me to just say that.
Obviously it doesn't just make it happen.
But time will heal that for sure.
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