REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 102. …But Helth? Ft. Dr. Russell Surasky

Episode Date: March 12, 2021

Has this Coronavirus pandemic been about health? Or has it been about money? On today’s episode, Andy and the crew are joined by Dr. Russell Surasky, the only triple board-certified neurologist in the United States as they discuss the science behind the COVID-19 vaccine, mask inefficiencies, and the role mainstream media and politicians have played in this pandemic.

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Got more cars than diddy. I only weigh 180, but my watch cost 250. What up? What is up, guys? It's J.D. Priscilla, and this is the show for the real estate, the bottom of lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society, and welcome to motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have a full-length show uh with a very special guest i'm going to intro here in just a minute um a lot of you guys are going to really

love this show uh because it's been a long time coming uh before i get into our guests i do have my brother sal which i don't have a name for yet most handsome guy in the room no no no you're at least a third third most handsome guy listen the third guy in the room? No, no, no. You're at least the third. Third? Third most handsome guy. Listen, the third guy in the baseball lineup usually makes the most money. You know what I'm saying? It's a good spot to hit in. This ain't baseball. All right. We got DJ.

Yeah. What did you call me earlier? Thumbs? Daddy Thumbs. Daddy Thumbs. Daddy Thumbs in his workout. I like that. Yeah. I bet you do. I'll take it. Yeah. You fucking earned it. That's earned it that's for sure fuck dude uh and then guys we have a very special guest uh dr russell saraski who is uh the only triple board certified neurologist in the u.s um he's also the leading authority on mental health and most notably addiction medicine uh he trains doctors from all over the country

in addiction medicine, and he's the medical director for Bridge Back to Life. And Bridge Back to Life has multiple addiction treatment centers all across the state of New York. He's also been very vocal this year along the lines of what we've talked about in regards to the science. And the reason that I sought him out and invited him on this show is because you've been one of the guys I've been following all year that's been promoting the real data. And every time we talk about the data here on the show regarding, you know, COVID or the lockdowns or masks, which the mask thing is a huge thing for me. You know, we get a lot of people

understandably saying, well, you're not a doctor, you know, and that's fine. I can, I could take that because I'm not a doctor. I do read data for a living. That's what I fucking do. We manufacture products that are essentially the same as pharmaceuticals. So I know how to read data, but since you guys don't fucking get that and you don't appreciate my understanding, I brought in a real expert. So dude, thanks for coming in, man. Thanks so much for having me and inviting me, Andy. Thank you, bro. Um, you've been super vocal this year, man, about what's going on. Let's just get into it, dude. Sure. Well, I'm just going to be blunt and indirect because your, your listeners need to hear it. Everyone really deserves to hear the truth about this. And, um, you know,

essentially look, we were all lied to and it's still going on um and it's essentially you know this was a a power grab a political power grab that was driven by political motivations nothing having to do with people's health and um essentially they took away everyone's liberty and freedoms because it was a power it was a power grab by politicians and they used basically a lot of um garbage fake data you know garbage in and the garbage conclusions out right because you've put bad data in there you're going to not make the right conclusions and they were using that to shape public policy which we're still living under uh and so you know as a result what you see is what what you see going on you know if you use common sense you realize that when the who and you know all these

different organizations come out with new recommendations every day that contradict each other from the week prior, you realize that, wait, maybe something's going on here and maybe we don't need to be locked down. And maybe, you know, all the isolation, depression and increasing drug overdoses, that is just, you know, horrendous. Is this really worth it? I mean, does it really make sense? And when you dig a little deeper, which if you want to, you can, they're really making a lot of mistakes. And then when they continue to make the mistakes over and over and over again, you know, it becomes very obvious to me that they're doing it on purpose and they're purposefully trying to confuse people and demoralize people. So they just accept the power grab. And you know, when I first said this, man, it was, it was literally in March, March 12th of 2020. I'm like, Hey, look, dude, if you don't, I wrote an email about it. I said,

if you don't think this is fucking political, you guys are crazy here. And I went through just the limited data that was available then. The fact that there's been no precedent in my lifetime of during a pandemic of wearing masks and all this shit, you know, and dude, I got fucking blasted by everybody, you know, dude, they wouldn't do that. They would never do that. This is about health. This is about this. This is about that. And I think we've we're slowly seeing the even the people who totally bought in start to like kind of release their identity and their ego a little bit and say, fuck, dude, maybe I was wrong. You know, I mean, what do you feel like that's starting to happen a little bit and say, fuck, dude, maybe I was wrong. You know, I mean, what are you feeling

like that's starting to happen a little bit? I do. And I think that the country is getting sick and tired of hearing about COVID every day and what they can't do. And the kids are still at home. And so the parents have to be at home. That's the number one issue right now in the country is parents have to be home. They can't work. The kids are home. The kids are isolated. There's cases of child abuse skyrocketing because no one's picking up on it. Domestic abuse has skyrocketed. Drug overdoses, you know, Trump declared the opiate addiction crisis in this country a national emergency. And at that time, there were 150 opiate overdose deaths per day.

Now we're over 200 since the lockdowns. And in terms of mental health, you know, choose any condition, it's skyrocketed. Depression, anxiety, bipolar, so everything is off the charts. In fact, the drug Zoloft, which is a commonly prescribed antidepressant, anti-anxiety medication, is now on the FDA shortage drug list. That's how many people are going to their doctor saying, I'm depressed, I'm anxious. And it just speaks to the bigger thing here, which is that this is not about public health, never was. You don't shut gyms and keep liquor stores open and cannabis dispensaries open while you're shutting down healthy things like taking away people's way to earn a living, shutting down

gyms, shutting down AA meetings. A lot of people rely on those meetings. When you shut churches and temples down, they don't have that anymore. So it's been really brutal, especially to people who are more susceptible to things like mental health and addiction. What would you say to someone who, let's say, okay, like one of these people that gets really mad at you and me, right? Like these people who, who, when you say like, Hey dude, you're getting fooled and they get really mad about it i mean what would you say to those people well i'll tell you how we got here yeah the first thing was in the beginning um they were testing only people who were very sick and so what they they came out with phony statistics basically saying that oh this has a fatality rate of one or two or three percent right that scared

the hell out of people and it allowed them to do the whole flatten the curve two weeks nonsense remember remember to the data or the videos they were showing on tv dude they body bag fucking right they were showing us videos of people in china literally walking down the street and fucking falling over dead like it was scary dude i was scared everybody was yeah but everyone was and it's understandable when you're pounded and barraged by um the mainstream media's um narrative that they want you to just force feed you. And so it but then what happened was so that they were the fatality was just nonsense. The percentage is nonsense. In fact, what we see now is that it's about what the flu is,

point one percent. And furthermore, in adolescents and kids, it's actually less problematic than getting the flu. So, you know, kids are just so resilient to getting COVID and even adults. In all the cases we hear about these fatalities, first of all, you know, 80 plus percent of people who died with COVID, they had two to three medical comorbidities, serious ones, diabetes, hypertension, you know, high cholesterol, all the stuff of not being healthy. Right. And they call it a COVID death. Right. But that person had multiple other medical problems. And a lot of times they're labeling it that way because, again, the hospitals, how we got here. Right. Another thing that happened

was the government was paying the hospitals twenty to thirty thousand dollars for a bed. If you had COVID or suspected COVID, which is a made up term, which basically means you didn't test them, but you think they might have had it. So they get 20 to $30,000 per patient extra. If they even put suspected COVID, you think that when you don't set up incentives like that, that you're not going to get false data. Right. Come on. Right. So, so that was another part of the, of the non, you know, the nonsense, non-accurate statistics. And then lastly, you know, they use PCR testing. I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with that. Yeah. So you probably talked about it, but we've been hearing a lot about it now.

But this actually broke months ago. Even the New York Times broke this story, believe it or not. And basically they did a sampling of three different states, New York being one of them. And they basically found out, you know, if we actually had some standards as to how we're doing this PCR testing, like they do for every other kind of test, 80 to 90 percent would be false positives. Yeah, they said 97 percent of it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how does that not have the most media coverage of anything? Because and did you notice when they snuck it in? They snuck it in the day of inauguration. Yeah. Yeah. And CNN, you know, runs with these case counts. Well, they used that was their favorite thing to do. Just scroll case counts. Not deaths from COVID or hospitalizations. They love the case counts because it can only go up and they have

a narrative to drive home. And so you're basically scaring the heck out of people, keeping them home, watching your channel. They sell advertising time. That's what they do, obviously. And so they basically just kept people locked down. And now here we are a year later and we still have, you know, states are opening up and they got the president saying that it's like Neanderthal thinking. They're trying to open up the states, which is absurd. Oh, he's saying that it's Neanderthal thinking. Like the Texas governor just opened up the state. Right. So so Biden was saying that that's Neanderthal thinking.

We shouldn't be. That motherfucker saying it's Neanderthal thinking. Yeah.'t be. That motherfucker's saying it's Neanderthal thinking. Yeah. Okay, dude. He can't even spell Neanderthal. In fairness, neither can I. And neither can you. Oh, no, I can spell it.

Yeah, because you're looking at it. You got Google up. Yeah, dude. So, like, let's layman terms this shit, which, guys, if you listen to the show, this sounds, uh, I don't know, like deja vu. I mean, maybe somebody, I don't know who kind of told you this shit a fucking year ago. Right. But what do we have here, dude? We've got fake tests that were purposely set up for false positives.

We've got incentivized cases for the hospital. Okay. We've got false data in regards to the comorbidity and the actual death rate. All right. We have a medication that actually treats it, that they worked hard to suppress. We haven't even talked about that yet. We've got masks to demoralize and take away individuality and reduce the ability for you to even feel like a human. Okay. I mean, dude, if you're not waking up to this yet, bro, you're gullible. Like you, you're going to lose in life. Cause like it's either you're really dumb and you can't see the data because even a basic intelligence level human should be able to understand this, what's going on at this point, in my opinion. Secondly, well, fuck, that doesn't really mean anything because

I thought they should have understood it a year ago. But, or you're tied into your ego so hard and your identity so hard that you can't admit you're wrong. And bro, that, you know, dude, I can tell you this. We went to Arizona this past weekend, uh, all three of us actually. And you know, they literally, as we were landing the plane, they, they opened up everything and took the masks out. Okay. So the whole weekend we were there, we went to dinner. We went to North, like, like like dude we died we died huh oh yeah we we had camelback that fucking sucked by the way just so you know i bitched the whole time um i did is that news or is that a standard isn't it it is standard i will bitch the entire time but what will happen the job will get done yep all right that's all that matters. But here's the thing. What the one thing I noticed you and I talked about this was that the mask mandate got pulled

like literally as we're landing the plane. Like I got a fucking alert on my phone. Okay. That night, probably one out of every 300 people was wearing a mask. So it shows you that like what it looks like when they're, when people are told it's okay. So it shows you that like what it looks like when they're when people are told it's OK. And that shows you that only one out of and do that was. Don't you agree? One out of every three hundred or so people think that's being conservative. Yeah, it might have been one out of every five hundred was still wearing a mask. And what it showed me was how many people will just abide by what the government tells them, even though they know it's bullshit. And so what's happened over the course of this year is they've also leveraged

that. They've leveraged the idea that, you know, the social pressure of everybody's doing it. And if you don't, you want people to die. Right. And the minute they say no more masks, everybody takes it off except one out of every 300 to 500 people. So what does that tell me? That tells me that all of you motherfuckers out there doing this shit, know this is bullshit, but you're going along with it. And you guys are the ones that are creating this whole scenario.

Giving them the power. Yes. And dude, if everybody just said, dude, fuck this, we're not doing it anymore. What could they do? There's a bigger, more important point here. And dude, if everybody just said, dude, fuck this, we're not doing it anymore. What could they do? Well, there's a bigger, more important point here, I think, in the big picture. And that is

that this country has a health care problem and a health problem. It's not a COVID problem. It's a health problem. You look at who gets sick and dies. It's people with multiple comorbidities. The obesity is number one. And then, you know, we talked about hypertension, diabetes, cholesterol, you know, that's because the countries that had the least amount of those cases were the healthiest. Yeah, absolutely. They did not have the same statistics. So we have a health care problem. And when you mass vaccinations and isolation at home, does not give you health. And that's the problem. It's all backwards. That comes from inside the health, you know, the exercise routines. What are you eating what supplements are you taking this is what protects you this is that helps your body and your nervous system adapt to its environment and and fight off things like

this so but unfortunately they got the whole country kind of locked at home saying please give me my vaccine so i could get back my rights and and but even then you can't even you still gotta wear a mask well they just changed it now you can hang out together oh now we can hang out now you can hang out together i it's absurd well can hang out together. Now you can hang out together. It's absurd. Well, I mean, I... Well, dude, here's what I think when I hear that. And I totally agree.

We have a huge problem with that. Dude, you saw the Cosmopolitan cover where they showed the really overweight women saying this is healthy. Did you see that? No, I didn't. Oh, fuck, dude. It was December. So they run a cover of these women that are all obese.

Okay. And like, dude, like, I get it. If you're happy with the way you look and you're overweight, I'm cool with that. But you still ain't healthy. All right. And we all know that self-love on this show isn't about bubble baths and fucking bonbons and being a fat ass. It's about actually doing things that you're proud of, doing things that are good for

you. And that's self-love. Okay. I'm not going to get into that right now, but they put this cover out in the middle of this pandemic when every single person who is, that looks like that is super fucking at risk for this thing. Okay. That woman right there has 2.6 comorbidities guaranteed. You can tell by looking at her disagree or agree. Okay. So we have this whole media machine pumping this shit while this other stuff is going on. And dude, what's really, what's really like dark to think about is that most people assume that they are just making mistakes. Oh, they're just confused. Bro, they're doing this shit on purpose because they fucking hate you.

And they want your power. They want your money. They want your fucking life. And they want you to obey. And you guys who have trashed me all year are now seeing that I was right the entire fucking time. They hate you. They want you to fucking be sick. They want you to be dependent. The reason they closed the businesses, like I said in the past, was so that they create more government dependency.

When you have more government dependency, you have more votes for these people who are currently in power, okay? Because they are the ones putting in these programs for the government to take care of people, right? The extra money, the socialistic policies, even the communist policies. This is how they bring it in. They destroy the fabric and the culture of health. They fear people into compliance, and then they take a shit. And dude, I've been trying to warn you guys for this whole year about this thing going on. But for some reason, it's like, you don't listen. And like, dude, I don't understand what that is.

Like, what are we afraid of? Because I'm afraid of like not having any rights and not having any freedom. And you guys, we have the people say, well, it's just a fucking mask. Don't quit being a bitch. Bro, when we get to a point where we got to have permission to breathe air, are we really free? I mean, I got a question for you.

Who do you in your in your professional medical expert opinion? Right. Whose responsibility is it for my health? Is it mine or is it the government or is it a doctor? Is it? It's always your responsibility. But we've confused that so much, right? And the fact that, you know, the gym, like Ian's gym up in New Jersey can be closed down,

but I can still drive through McDonald's drive-thru. That's a problem. Or you could still go buy a fifth of tequila or a fucking pound of weed. Like that's a problem, you know, but we have this confusion that no you sal you are responsible for my health and that's not how it goes well and also dude they've created this narrative that healthy people can kill people by breathing yeah which isn't fucking true right no but it worked yeah it did work yeah doc i got a question yes because i felt like you know if it burns, Sal is wrong. No, no, no. Listen, it does

feel like we were on a date Friday night in college. I mean, we didn't. Is this like normal to you? We didn't get into any of your background or any. Where are you from? Oh, New York. What part of New York? Long Island. Do you have kids? No. Married? Yes. So

you live where in Long Island? You give me the hard questions, huh? Yeah. Married? Yes. So you live where on Long Island? You're giving me the hard questions, huh? Yeah. So I asked it. So in the middle, I'm just curious because, you know, New York was in pretty, you know, there's a pretty good lockdown. Yeah. Thanks to our great governor and mayor.

What's your opinion on all the, just the invasion of rights slash Cuomo slash like, what's your personal opinion as a New Yorker? Just cause we see it like we get, you know, we get fed from the media on the outside. Right. I love New York, bro. I'm scared to go there now. Like I don't want to go there no more. Well, I'm just more curious, like as a New Yorker, cause we had a California and I told the story in last week,

we had a California in last weekend. Well, and this guy had not been to a restaurant in a year. And he hadn't been to a restaurant in a year man been to a year in a year man i mean when you saw um nissan nissan is getting recalled and i i think that most of those votes that they have they have over 1.5 million votes to recall his election and i think that the major driving force for that is the fact that kids are not in school because that affects the most families of anything else right because how are they supposed to work be the teacher by the way there's everyone's still paying uh their school there's public school tax that's right kids aren't going to school the teachers getting paid teachers

getting paid the school there's the school unions are telling you know don't go to work you know and it's just it's it's terrible and what they did to new york is awful i mean everyone's people the moving trucks leaving new york to go to florida and other states down. You know, the news is always showing how many trucks are moving out. You know, the property values have when in New York, the property values go down. Never. Never. Now they are. And where I am in suburbia, Long Island, they actually shot up because nobody wants to be in the city because they were they were doing all the stuff with, you know, just just hating the cops. They were putting homeless people, you know, into hotels with other people. They were doing all kinds of things where people didn't want to be there anymore.

Long Island's got a much different political view than Manhattan, correct? I mean, just in general population? Yeah, in general, it's about 50-50 this last election. But the city is overwhelmingly Democrat. What do you think? I mean, just from the standpoint of like your neighbors, you know, cause like in Missouri, right? We're in Missouri where we flip cows and, you know, we go out and have 400 acres.

You know, people, we all drive pickup trucks and wear cowboy boots, but you guys think less of us, right? We think, you know, stuck up New Yorkers. No, but I'm just more curious, like, you know, we have had a little bit of access to life. And so like our progression, we're a little bit more cowboy-esque in that sense.

What do you think the transition is as this time goes on and as people kind of start pulling back the weeds, like what, as a New Yorker, what are your, what's the thought process of your neighborhood? It's almost like they, they made so many people in the country, you know, drink the Kool-Aid, you know. And so now, you know, it's almost like they have to be debriefed, you know, like they have to be debriefed from what they were told. And that's not an easy pill for them to swallow. So it's almost like it's going to take time, I think, for most people to come around. Some of the government got people so

scared that there are many people who don't want the rights back. No, no, let me wear a mask and make everyone else wear a mask for all of eternity. I mean, that's kind of, that's narrative has made that happen because they were trying to strike the fear of God into everybody. So they would comply. And now we have a population that despite the fact that, you know, we're reaching herd immunity, that place where you get where, where you can no longer have to wear masks and hang out and go back to normal. We're almost there. It's probably going to be within a month. And I still think that regardless, there's going to be that cohort of people that just simply say, I'm not giving up a mask. And they're still going to be mad that you're not giving up yours.

And that's, but. I don't have a problem with people that want to wear a mask. I have a problem with people telling me to wear a fucking mask. But they'll tell you, you know what they'll tell you. Yours protects me. Yeah. Well, you know what? I don't care protects me yeah well you know what i don't care that's the thing i don't care you're predicating that belief that i give a fuck about you i don't give a fuck about you okay so like i did in the beginning i

did in the beginning yeah but now i don't give a fuck about you because you're stupid yeah okay so deal with it stay the fuck away from me and the truth of the matter is we this is how it should have been a whole time if you're fucking fucking immune compromised, stay home. If you're old, stay home. If you're fucking scared, wear a mask or don't go out. That's how it should have been the whole time. That's how it would have been any other time. That's how it was in 2009. That's how it was in every other pandemic that we've had. And that's the fucking truth. And the difference between the pandemics we've had in the past and this pandemic is guess what happened in 2009 we still had the motherfucking flu and we still had all these other things that killed people they didn't disappear what do you think about that i mean that's a

whole nother data pencil fuck that we haven't even talked about you don't have to even dig deep you just go to cdc right now anyone listening and look at how many flu cases there are the whole map is green there's like 20 cases i I mean, some ridiculously low number. But Doc, that's because everybody's wearing a mask. Okay, but that's a great, unpack this, because this is a great thing that most people won't take the time. And this is where, you know,

we get called conspiracy theorists regularly, right? And I want to get into that conversation at some point in time. Listen, there is a difference between identifying a conspiracy and being a conspiracy theorist. No, no, no. But I want to unpack some of this because this is a clear, this is a Google, you can go to Google or go to cdc.org and you can look at this fact. So just unpack that and the odds of maybe there being less than 0.0003% flu versus any other year.

There's fucking less than that zero well i mean listen i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you something else i think they purposely hide from the general public which is the fact that we have viruses and bacteria um if you take bio one-on-one you know that you have viruses bacteria that live in part of your genome all over your body at all times you're probably carrying flu germs right now on you strep germs right now on you it's just how life is it's it's uh we live in harmony with bacteria and viruses. And so if I were to just swab your throat, I'd find things in there. It doesn't mean you're sick. Okay. But so when they're swabbing everyone for their nostrils for COVID, right. And let's say you have a cold

and you go to their urgent care and they want to rule out that it's not COVID, right. And they swab you. They can get a whole bunch of stuff back. And that's what I see on a lot of reports, which is COVID positive, rhinovirus positive, which is a source of common cold okay and then or sometimes the third one but they always go with it's covid even though it's two days of cold symptoms and it goes away any other time they would just say you got a cold but now let's add it to the case count tracker you know what i mean and that's tied into the pcr testing too right the cycle rate on the pcr they had the test so i'm trying to explain this in like layman's terms right guys they had the test set

at such a high level so that if they detected this bacteria that was let's just say you had one fucking little bitty speck of it they counted you as covid positive when that's not enough to actually spread or get you sick correct Correct or incorrect? Absolutely correct. Okay. Thank you. Smart, bro. Fuck. So.

Huh? I say you're pretty smart. Who? What are your thoughts on this? No, dude, that's just people don't understand that. I'm just trying to explain it regular term. I think what we're talking about right now is just common sense. It doesn't take a heck of a lot to find this information.

You don't have to go digging into studies and have a degree in epidemiology to understand this stuff. I think it's really a stretch to say that any of this is i don't even want to call it controversial i think it's common sense and i and i you know to say that it's a conspiracy theory and it wouldn't that's not what this is at all well and i think this is where our frustration because because well the truth is i think i think i just i i i think it is a conspiracy because doctors like you and other doctors who we've all watched, right?

Ben Tapper, a lot of the other guys that we all watch have been super vocal and gotten trashed all year. The frontline doctors who went out and said, hey, hydroxychloroquine actually fucking works, guys. And what happened to them? They got fired. They got trashed. They got drugged through the mud.

Did they get their shit? And what happened to them? They got fired. They got trashed. They got drugged through the mud. Did they get their shit? I mean, are they back now? Because now it's come to light that they were right the whole time. And how many deaths did Facebook and Google and the government cause by denying, and Fauci himself, by denying that they could treat this shit with something that was so common? I mean, how many deaths happened because of that? You know, it's impossible because the data has been manipulated so much that we don't have, it's hard to get to the real actual data. But I think what you would see is that essentially

that what the narrative is was a complete falsehood. You know, that we all have to live in fear. We can't go outside. Even if you're young and healthy, you can't go outside go outside i mean we were at that point not long ago yeah and um and and they're keeping kids out of school it's been awful so uh it just doesn't make any sense the cdc changed their mind again i think yesterday a couple days ago where they came out new recommendations where it's okay now it's okay to be around family members or close friends if one of you if you have the vaccine yeah so and they just said yesterday

or today or yesterday just came out bro that um if you're medically exempt you could fly on airplane without a mask thanks to biden wait wait wait wait who fucking told you that a year ago i did i'm gonna toot my own fucking horn until that horn breaks bro because like dude i told all you motherfuckers, and you motherfuckers made fun of me all year. I sent that to Ian because it was really, really, because they tried to make. That just happened today, right?

Yeah. They tried to make it seem like, you know, Biden did this amazing thing. You can fly on an airplane. No, the ADA did that back in 1990. Yeah, bro. That's been the law the whole time. You motherfuckers just too stupid to read it.

Yeah. Like, dude, if you tell people you're medically exempt, they can't do anything. They cannot do anything. It's against the law. Yeah. So I think, I think one of the strengths that we have on the show is common sense. Right. And I know sometimes it doesn't debatable. Well, that's fair, but I would say like, listen, nobody in here is highly intelligent. And the truth of the matter is, is like our business is not like this uh superpower it's taking common sense and figuring out how to make it work and so i i at least personally i take a great deal in pride and all right let's just look at what's going on and didact that and i think a big problem because

we don't have the street cred of md or do behind you know we didn't go to Yale or, you know, we're not Princeton educated that we don't have the expertise, bro. They think we're a bunch of, well, we flip cows, but understanding that we don't have the expertise, but you know, like data's data, like Andrew said, like we look at data regularly. We, we can analyze the situation. It doesn't take rocket science. You don't need a degree to figure these things out. People have called us conspiracy theorists, and it's empowering to think about conspiracies. I'm curious, just like when you look at mask, what's your personal opinion on mask? Well, I can tell you my opinion, but it's also backed up with there's been studies done now, at least a couple of them, which show that basically masks are ineffective as a whole, like not like a certain chunk of it's ineffective, like the whole thing, the whole concept of it

with the mask that most people are using, which is the disposable throwaway little mask. They don't protect against anything. You know, it's really a stretch that they say, you know, that it's somehow it's helping you. No study has demonstrated that to date. Okay, what about like for the majority of people, right? They wear the throwaway mask.

A lot of people wear a cloth mask. What are the dangers or what is just a realization? Like, you know, the neck gaiter, right? You wear the same neck gaiter for three weeks, five weeks. You're breathing into the same hole 5,000 times. There's germs that, you know, accumulate inside the mask and they touch it. Then they adjust their mask up and down with their nose and then they go touch everything. Like where is, where's the logic inside of that?

Is there any? No, where's the logic inside of that? Is there any? No, there's no logic. As a professional, as a doctor. No, if you, if you go to the market and you just like study what people are doing, you see they were just walking contradictions, the way they touch certain things and don't do others. They make up this like just a way that makes them feel comfortable, but it's all psychological anyway. It's just,

they're just scared and they don't know what to do. Can I touch the wagon? Can I not touch the wagon? Can I, you know, do I have to wear gloves in the supermarket? You know, I would say about half the people wear gloves in the supermarket. You know, where's that coming from? You can't touch the wagon. You're going to get like, that's not, that's not a real thing. You know, we don't look if, if it all it did was take germs to jump on you, make you sick, we'd all be gone. Right. Because this room is filled with germs and, and, and a lot of people don't know that. I think everything's just sterile. And if you have bacteria, you're sick, but'd all be gone, right? Because this room is filled with germs. And a lot of people don't know that. They think everything's just sterile. And if you have bacteria, you're sick, but that's not the case. So best thing you could possibly do is just focus on being healthy.

And that's how your body, your body was made to adapt to its environment. And so that's the main thing. If you look at what is the number one thing that kills people, it's their pre, it's their other conditions, the comorbidities that they had. It was the number one thing that kills people, it's their pre, it's their other conditions, the comorbidities that they had. It was the number one risk factors, obesity and then hypertension, diabetes. We all know that by now. Which all come naturally with obesity, correct? In fact, I think this, I think the most recent study said that only 6% of cases of COVID, COVID deaths were really just from COVID.

Yeah, that's right. 6%, that means 94%. That's right. That that means 94 that's right that means only 15 000 people i mean i'm and dude the rest of these and people like what about the 500 000 bro those people died of heart attacks yeah of course they died of car accidents they died of the flu no that doesn't exist if you if you look at all course mortality before like last year same time to same date this time time, it's the same thing. That's right, bro.

We're sitting here like, I can see it on his face, but it's, it's draining. It's draining from our perspective because you know, like you gotta go out and you know, you're right. I don't, we don't have the degree. So it's, you know, you're not qualified to speak on that, but it's kind of interesting because you know, you can look at it. But Chris Como on the fucking news, who's reading a teleprompter that's written by fucking George Soros,

is qualified. You're a conspiracy theorist. No, I'm not. Yeah, right. Bro, here's a question. Hold on. I got a question. Legit question that I had while you were speaking.

Would you... Now, I don't know the data to back this up or if there is data or if it's just your educated opinion but it would make sense to me to think that the people who have actually continued to live their life and continue to go about normal daily and i'm talking about normal shit putting gas in your car you know you wash your hands when you wash them and you do you know your normal life i would say those people are actually probably more healthy now than the people who've stayed in isolation, stayed away from fucking everything. Is there any validity to that or not really? I think there's a lot of validity to it. There's not a study that shows it, but most physicians believe that to be true. When you

go out and you get what's called micro-dosed in the environment by bacteria and viruses, your immune system, that's how it learns how to fight better, right? When you stay huddled inside and sterilize your whole, you're just hurting yourself, you know? And that's the problem is now everyone's so nervous that they want to stay home and not get it. And now when everyone's, you know, now it's time to go back into the wild and they're scared, you know? So it, you know, it was a total wrong approach. You know, we're probably read up a ton on the, on the 1918 Spanish flu too, right? Yes. Is it true that a big percentage of the people that actually died back then died from bacterial pneumonia from wearing the masks?

It's a theory, but I think it definitely holds validity. I think it would probably hold up if they were able to look at that. They didn't keep records like that. So this is a study that just came out actually to that that same question you guys just had uh this was actually this is on the cdc website so they actually did this uh did one of these these studies and they found out i'm gonna scroll down here to the conclusions real quick for you guys they tested masked and unmasked people both healthy and people that were positive for COVID. So if you look here, these are people that never wore a mask. Okay. And then these are people that always wore masks

and the people that always wore masks, 70.6% of them contracted COVID or some other illness in the environment where people who never wore masks were only 3 3.9 this is the logic back to the grocery store in my brain just sitting simply observing right you're around touching everything touch everything the store touch gas pump touch everything if you know covid exists you constantly touch your mask constantly touch your mask touch your mask well you're putting it into this environment and it's on your hand and you're putting it in front of your face then you hang your mask on your rearview mirror then you touch your mask then it's in your hand it's like be real i think that's a moot point anyway. I think this whole thing,

and I'm not denying that COVID is not a real fucking thing, but this is an entire fuck job on the data. That's it. We can talk about, oh, the masks and this and that and this and this, but dude, it really is an irrelevant conversation because the fucking flu doesn't exist right now. We know that's bullshit. OK, they've created they've taken what would be a normal death cycle per year and called it something else and panic the entire country for the reason of what you said in the first 30 seconds of the show, which is a political power grab, which is what I said over. I said this in fucking December 2019. I told you guys this was coming. They were going to try to do something to crash the fucking economy to get Trump out because they don't fucking like him because he's not one of them.

And you guys all think, oh, well, you're just a Trump dick sucker. No, I'm not, dude. I'm just telling you what I see, you know, like, dude, it's there, man. And like, and we have this issue now where we've empowered people who have never had responsibility or power in their life to regulate you, right? Like we just talked about, this is a whole nother topic I'm about to get on. I was having dinner with Aaron Wagner the other night and we were talking about business because we're business guys and all these big companies, the Targets, the Walmarts, this, that, and a lot of these little companies have empowered their lowest level beginner employees to literally fucking attack their customers for not wearing a mask or not complying with no training. All right. And from

a business standpoint, you guys who own businesses, which this is, that's the core of this show. The core of this show is business owners. You guys don't even understand that you've already wrecked your business. You just haven't seen it yet because those people that you harassed that did and educated themselves on the data like myself and lots of others like me. In fact, remember what I said about Arizona, 300 to one. There's a lot of people who are just wearing the mask that know it's bullshit because they don't want you to fucking harass them. Those people that you harass, that you empowered your $10, $12 an hour entry level people to harass. Guess what, motherfuckers? They're not coming

back to your business and you've ruined and cut your own throat. And that's going to come back to bite a lot of you guys in the ass. And a lot of these big companies, yeah, they'll probably survive. But I can tell you right now, dude, I'm going to be looking for other alternatives for the rest of my life. They're going to survive because they were never impacted. Right. They closed everything else and let them stay. Vaccine.

What about it? So, you got, there's only two types of people in the world. There's fucking vaccine advocates and people who don't want to fucking get vaccine. That's not true. I don't have, I don't have a problem with any vaccines. I have a problem with this vaccine. No, no, I'm sorry. Yeah. That's not true at all. The COVID vaccine. You're making it polarized. Like, and that's the problem here. There is not two kinds of people with vaccines. There's a fuck ton of people. There's lots of people who believe that vaccines for certain things are okay. I'm one of them. There's a lot of people that believe that vaccines for anything is terrible. There's a lot of people that are okay with some vaccines and know that this is bullshit. And there's a lot of people who are willing to take

fucking anything the government tells them. So there's actually four groups of people, not two. And it's important to recognize that because when you say, because every time I say, speak out about the vaccine of COVID, I get this fucking pushback. You're this crazy anti-vaxxer. No, I'm not at all. There's just no fucking science behind it. And it's, and it's weird because you're willing, you're willing to shut your whole life off when there's no science to weird because you're willing you're willing to shut your whole life off when there's no science to show it and then you're willing to take a drug that has no fucking science behind it at all like to me dude it's almost like it's almost like i just want to sit back and just like all right this is fucking uh uh darwinism at work dude what's a lot of people that are just

desperate like i mean so you talk about a lot of times too it's like you know it's the people who think they can just put this waist trainer on they're automatically going to get skinny oh well that goes let me just shoot something in my arm that's right i'll be healthy like no go to the gym doc saying hey get healthy well and i'm thinking yeah but like i'm thinking in their head well yo that's hard you know like it easier to just take a fucking shot. Super quick. Bro, they're in a shot in this fucking plant that's going to make you healthy.

Well, I think Andy's exactly right on point with the fact that it's easy to hate something or love it and make it just a polar opposite thing. And, you know, life isn't that simple. You're right.

So anytime you're going to get a vaccine or a medicine, regardless, you have to weigh the benefits to you or the risks with getting that treatment. And even though the risks of the vaccine are low, the fact, you know, the fact is that if you are otherwise healthy, right, and you

don't have any other comorbidities and you, you know, and you're less, you know, younger than 60 years old, right, where, where, where's the data to show that you're somehow going to be healthier with a vaccine? Because that group of people, if you're not old, have multiple comorbidities, serious comorbidities, it's a cold. It's a cold virus, actually. And so, you know, it's just more a lot of misinformation about this, right? Because people think you're either an anti-vaxxer or you just want to get vaccinated against everything because, you know, you're neurotic. But it's in between. You have to look at each thing. So, you know, you have to decide for yourself that the benefits outweigh the risks of any treatment you're going to have and vaccines included in that. In fact, when the FDA was trying to approve the emergency approval for the vaccine,

what you didn't hear on the news, but you can look it up pretty easily. There are a couple of people, now this body, this group, they approve every vaccine. But there was a couple of scientists that didn't want to approve it for a certain age group, which was like 15 to 20 year olds, because they literally looked at that and were like, nobody gets sick from this if they're that age with no medical problems. Where's the justification to inject an otherwise healthy person, right? Show us, why are we injecting someone for a cold virus that doesn't do anything to them? And there really wasn't. So it got pushed through against their objections, but it's important to know that you have to think along those lines. Like Andy was saying,

common sense, right? You're not going to get every vaccine that every pharma company comes out with because for you, it may not mean much. Why would you get the vaccine? Just because, you know, it's out doesn't mean you have to get it. You have to look at each thing and decide. Well, I mean, not only that, and correct me if I'm wrong, too. Like if you've already had the COVID, if you already had it, what about the antibodies? Is the vaccine even necessary if I've already had it?

Well, Big Pharma wants to tell you it is yeah but there's no studies showing that they know how long the antibodies last for and all that but they'd love for you to believe it's you know less than four months right because you know this will be added to the yearly vaccine list for everyone how do they come up with the 90 days um i'll tell you how they fucking decided that if we make three shots over 90 days, we can make three times as much money. No, I mean 90 days of the antibodies. No, I'm answering your question. That's how they figure. They don't give a fuck about the data, bro.

This is about money. This is about, hey, we can give them three shots or two shots and make three times as much money. Dude, this whole thing, you guys have to understand. This is not about health. Stop thinking this is about health. This is not, they do not have your best interests in mind. The idea that you're building this thought on top of this idea that these people are good people and they're fucking not. These people want you sick. They want you dependent on them. And they want that fucking power. And dude, that's why they closed all the small businesses,

but kept the big businesses open. That's why the pharma vaccines or the pharma companies are going to make hundreds of billions of dollars, including Bill Gates. Bill Gates will make more money from this than he made ever in his life doing anything else from this fucking thing. This is, these dudes are all friends. There's 10 of them. There's, there's fucking how many

people in this room? One, two, three, four, five, six. There's seven of them. How hard would it be for us to get in a fucking room and say, Hey, you do this, you do that, you do this and we'll all be fucking rich. That's what's happening. And dude, any other thought outside of that is fucking incorrect. A hundred percent. And you guys fucking think I'm crazy. I'm not crazy. I'm smart motherfucker. That's why I'm where I'm at. This is not about health. And all of you listening right now, when you argue this shit, you're arguing it from a place of they want us to be healthy, which they don't. And I know that's a hard thing for everybody to believe. And I know that's a hard pill to swallow,

but it's true. And these, the evidence is there. And whether you figured out now, or you figured out a year from now, which I hope you figured out now, you should have figured out a year ago, but it's still going to be true. This is about money. This is not about fucking health, bro. If it was about health, they'd be be saying hey, we need everybody to fucking take this vitamin We need everybody to go outside and walk fucking 45 minutes a day We need everybody to go to the gym. We need everybody drink gallon of water We need you to fucking do these things and they would say that they Bro, listen, they would be saying that on the fucking they would be sending out Amber alerts and said, hey, do that. That's what they would do. This is not about fucking health at all. And to predicate

the argument on that point is just, everything built off of that point. It's like building a house on a fucking foundation that cannot be solid. You see what I'm saying? You're not selling me. Fuck, I get it. I'm just trying to give some objective opinion and understand it like, hey man, how do you argue somebody since we're talking about the COVID vaccine? Are you going to get the COVID vaccine? No. Why not? Because I'm not afraid of what happens to me if COVID lands on me. There's no data to support. I should be afraid. Literally none. So I'm not worried about it. And asymptomatic spread is next to nil. And that's what the studies keep showing. So obviously, if I didn't feel right,

I would stay home. I wouldn't go out and be around people that were at risk of getting COVID sick. But otherwise, asymptomatic spread is essentially non-existent. In fact, if you think it is a problem, then when you get a vaccine, remember, the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting COVID in your body. It just primes your immune system. The goal is referred to prime your immune system so it attacks it faster. Now that you have to wait 10 days for the antibodies to build up and potentially go downhill during that time. But the virus still goes into your body. You're still carrying it asymptomatically.

You're the same as somebody who didn't get a vaccine. The one who did it in the same place with asymptomatic spread. So there's no studies to suggest otherwise. So, I mean, I don't buy the argument about it. I think that if you're a high risk patient, high risk individual, then you have something to think about with the vaccine. But otherwise healthy person, where's the upside? I don't get it. In fact, you've seen a lot of people get sick after the vaccine for like a week. Dude, there's been a thousand deaths, a thousand deaths. Okay. Now let's just think about this.

This is a good discussion. Let's just say that we are correct. Okay. And there's been, and what the CDC provides us with data is the 6% actual death rate, right? The people who have died from COVID, there's actually only 6% of that 500,000. Okay. What's 6% of 500,000? 15,000, right? So we have, is that right? No, that's not right. 30,000. So we have 30,000 people who have died from COVID, apparently. That's what the data they're giving us. They just started with vaccines and already a thousand people have died of COVID or of the vaccine. I mean, that doesn't add up. Like when they vaccinate everybody, there's a good likelihood that the deaths from the vaccine

will match the deaths from actual COVID. It's statistically possible. Well, I think the struggle in lies that you just start looking at the 30,000 number, right? 30,000 people die of COVID. Well, dude, if you go back to H1N1, that's about what it was. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, I've had H1N1. It was a motherfucker. I lived. But when I go back to like the real problem, the root of the problem, obesity, that's how we, I mean, we are essentially a battle against obesity company. That's the truth. That's what First Form does. We, we help people change their lives through losing weight. That's our entire company. And what I find like, it's extremely disheartening, um, whether it's

our government society in general, 300,000 people die every year of obesity. And we don't have a, we don't have any urgency to fix that issue in any way, shape or form three, 10 times the amount of people every year. And it's every fucking year because they don't care. No, I understand that. But my point is supporting your point. It's like, but you have to objectively like sit back and say, okay, let's look at this. If obesity is the cause here and obesity is a huge motherfucking problem. We don't seem to address it when it's here, but when you get $30,000 extra for every case that comes to the hospital, well, we're going to tag this motherfucker as COVID.

You know, there's no, one and one is not two in any way, shape, or form, no matter how you fucking- No, it's not, because it's racist if it is. That's right. Two plus two equals fucking five now. Go back to my math teachers, be like, fuck you. Yeah.

I passed. Yeah. But even in a typical year, right? How many deaths are attributed to the flu? What, 30, 40,000? Yeah, 50 in a big year, right? Yeah, exactly. So you've got to keep perspective in mind here. And most of those that died also probably labeled with the flu, but had multiple other comorbidities because normal, healthy, otherwise people do not usually die from the flu. We can all attest to that, right? But we still have 40,000 deaths. That's a group of people who had other medical issues for sure. So just something to keep in mind because they're calling COVID deaths

and it's really, they're not healthy. It just makes me angry. Yeah, it does. Like I just get so mad thinking about how. How they duped everybody. Bro, they stole a fucking year of our lives. And like you keep going back to the kids. What are the kids going to be like in 20 years from this what are they going to be like in 10 years well i'm sorry not to cut you off doc but i mean we see how how awkward

socially awkward kids are in this generation just because of these phones right can you only imagine alex so my fiance we have a five-month-old child. And we were just talking about this. We're like, you know, what about all these toddlers and stuff that during their ages of development, facial recognition is a very, very important cognitive part of their development, right? They have to be able to read social cues. If everybody's freaking masked, you're not even going to see that, right? So, I mean, I think it's going to be absolutely terrible what these what what ryan's generation even enzo and the twins like what what is their generation going to look like in a couple years i think it's going to be absolutely terrible if you tolerate it yeah i will say this though there is neuroplasticity you know

i think that these i'm optimistic i think that things will move forward and be and i'm hoping and i'm optimistic that things will be okay um you know, there are a lot of things that got missed during this year and some of them are pretty awful. Like I said, domestic abuse, drug overdoses, you know, child abuse. Listen, half the people missed their cancer screenings. Bro, that cancer didn't go away. It's going to get detected now at a later stage and those people are going to have a harder time. And so, I mean, dude, I know some, we know someone like that. Like we, we know we have a first form Legionnaire who missed her cancer screening because of COVID and then was diagnosed with fucking terminal cancer.

Stage four. Yeah. Well, that's exactly. Yeah. Fast, aggressive pace. Two of my very best friends lost their dads this year and neither one of them got to see them when they passed. Neither one of them got to have a fucking funeral. I mean, dude, I'm getting, like, goosebumps.

It pisses me off so fucking bad. And, dude, you know, and people are like, oh, well, you know, it's the government. No, it's not the government, bro. It's the people going along with it and not taking the responsibility to educate themselves on what's actually happening. Like, it's you motherfuckers that's the truth and like dude it makes me and dude if that makes you mad i'm sorry it's the fucking truth the more we go along with it the more this shit is allowed to happen and it's disgusting man it's it's it's it just makes me so and i know you feel the same because i've been loving your content no i mean listen like ian smith ian smith right great buddy look at look

at what he's been doing i mean you know you guys familiar i know you know yeah he's one of my best friends dude all right yeah okay so we have part two it's right out here all right we have our own we have our own social experiment that's been going on for the last year i mean look at the look at the look at the pressure that they're putting on them and they don't back down. You know? I mean, look to them for maybe some strength and, you know, following your belief systems because they

took all his money out of his bank account and he's still going. Cryptocurrency. So, I mean, I think you're right. I think if enough people step up, then other people will join. I think it's that first group that steps up to say, like, I'm not going to wear the think if enough people step up, then other people will join. I think it's that first. Yeah.

That first group that steps up to say, like, I'm not I don't want it. I'm not going to wear the mask. Well, dude, it's weird, too, because like you see, it's just these people who are the ad pro lockdown, pro mass, pro this. It's a politicized thing for them. They're doing it based upon what they believe politically, not what the actual data says. And dude, if you really look at it, I think that thing that I said about what I saw in Arizona, where most of the people took the mask off, it shows you the actual percentage of the quote unquote Karens that are making a huge deal. It's very small, very loud group of people. And bro, we just got to get comfortable telling those people to eat shit.

Well, and I think there's, that's, that's the truth. So internet, we didn't stay at the same hotel, right? The hotel we stay at was booked. So we were at a different hotel. We would go to the pool. There's about approximately 253 hundred people. It's only one family had a mask on, you know? So like there's a total different support system that would literally give you the exact same anecdotal evidence, logical look around. Yeah. And it's social pressure, right? Nobody wants to be the odd duck. And what's going to happen, like what you just said, Doc, was that now in Arizona, that family that's wearing a mask, they're going to feel stupid. And eventually they're going to be like, they're going to have a conversation at home like, hey,

honey, I think we got duped. And they're just not going to wear this shit anymore it's completely flipped it used to be 300 people wearing a wearing a mask yes but you understand what i'm saying absolutely the the perception of social pressure to wear a mask is actually not existent it's a perception that they've created by mandator mandating and and businesses making it's all a fucking huge thing yeah like together like when when walmart and target and all these companies say you can't fucking eat here uh i can't come here and shop without a mask and they shut down everything else what do you have to do right you gotta fucking wear one okay so they've created this perception that everybody's on board.

Dude, I'm telling you, these motherfuckers all, this is a plan. And I believe, I do believe that this will come out. And I do believe these people will be held accountable. I just think it's going to take a minute. What's your take on that, Doc? What do you think the repercussions are for these people in power that have been pushing this, that are clearly responsible for a lot of hurt in our country our country right now i mean what would you what two questions what would you like to see happen and what do you think is going to happen i think they should be held

accountable i mean they cause untold amounts of suffering on the population i think history will prove we'll look down upon this time in in in our lives um and and and no no see for what it is right now people are still in the midst of it. So they're not getting the perspective of time, but they should be held accountable. I wish I was optimistic that that would happen. I don't think that's going to happen. I think there's too many people that are career politicians, the swamp,

and they want to keep, and they're not going to, they're going to all fight to defend that. And I don't think it's going to not a politician, you know, it's not my area of expertise, but I will say that I don't, I just don't see them all going down for it.

Yeah. See, I, I, I think that sometimes, and then sometimes I don't, like I go back and forth on that. I am. And sometimes I let my hopefulness maybe get out in front of me on it, but there's definitely no evidence of them being held accountable. But I do, I do see guys like Cawthorn and Ted Cruz and these other guys like standing up and saying, Hey, this is fucking

wrong, you know, but dude, it's a year late, man. Like we're not getting that year back, nor are we getting those lives back, nor are we getting the businesses back, bro? Like dude, uh, Portnoy just raised what? Fucking $40 million for businesses, bro. $40 million doesn't mean shit compared to the damage that was done. I mean, dude, look, I like Dave. He's fucking awesome. I fucking love what he did, but bro, a lot more has to be done. You know what I'm saying? And I got a little idea that I'm going to hit him with about how to keep that fund going. But the point is, is like, I don't know, because I do see guys in government who are elected, who do know it's wrong saying shit. So,

well, look at Florida and DeSantis. He's always, I love that guy. Yeah, absolutely. It makes me want to move to Florida. Yeah.

Well, everyone is moving to Florida because of that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, no, I mean, home,

home prices have skyrocketed in Florida right now because people are running there. Almost double. Yeah. Right. In certain areas in Southern. No, I mean... Well, I mean, you see situations like in Cuomo.

Like you said, I mean, I see both sides, right? So, like, you see what happened with Cuomo, right? So, it all came out that, you know, the nursing home crisis that he did, right, that he intentionally did. Started to come out. Started to come out. And then what happened?

But then they protected him. They didn't protect him, bro. Indirectly. They fucking came up with this sexual harassment shit to make the storyline that instead of what he actually did they put the spotlight on over here hey look here yeah because see and this is where i think it might crack and crumble with is with coma because it they're gonna punish him and i think he he's liable to fucking say this is actually what happened. And I don't know if he will or he won't. You know, they probably cut some deal like, hey, dude, you had to eat the sexual harassment, but we'll fucking we'll leave you alone on this shit.

I don't know. But I mean, dude, that's how my brain perceives the events happening right now is that this whole sexual misconduct thing is a cover for the actual crap that's happened in the narrative. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how my brain sees it. What are your thoughts on, just out of curiosity, when you start talking about all the other diseases, mental health, child abuse, suicide, right? It's awful. It's awful. Listen, I don't really suffer from anxiety in the grand scheme of life. I just never... And this year I developed it where it's like...

And I'm not... And that goes back to Zoloft being on the shortage list of drugs. Yeah. Because people who weren't... You weren't diagnosed before, but you might go to your doctor now and say something and now he's going to give you a prescription. That's likely what would happen.

It's crazy though, man. Because of that mental stress that comes with it. And so I'm just curious. And I know this is, you know, time will tell. But what do you think is bigger, the one year lost or the loss that's getting ready to come because of the the mental disorders or suicide rate that's going to come from people losing their businesses and relationships and divorce and kids? It's it's it's all of it, right? It's not easy to say this stops here on the timeline and this begins.

It's all meshed together. Suicides have gone up tremendously. It's already done. Like, you know, those lines aren't coming back. So that's already done. The lack of structure in the day, the kids not going to school. I mean, what do you think is going to happen? How long can people survive like that without structure, without meetings, not going to school i mean what do you think is going to happen how long can people survive like that without structure without meetings without uh going to temple or church without being able to work out the gym but people human beings thrive on structure right you guys of course know that so um i just it's it's already it's it's too late already right we're a year into this so the sooner they should they need to open things up a long time ago so now we just hope that it happens as soon as possible the states are piling up that are starting to open things up yeah it's starting's starting to be like dominoes. I'm

hoping. Dude, I would like to chime in on that on that point, Sal, because I do suffer from those things. I have severe anxiety. I've had severe depression for the last 20 fucking years on and off. And you don't know this about me, but it's something I talk about on the show pretty consistently. A lot of who I am, I've leveraged from that. So it's been something that I've learned how to make work for me, not against me. But I do want to say that I think I can relate to that point because dude, I, you guys can all attest. I didn't go anywhere the whole time for a year. I mean, I went what? Two places in a year besides work. I went to Billy G's and I went to twist a tree. Okay. So I was about as confined as,

I don't know, most people, you know, maybe some people in San Francisco, New York were worse, but I, you know, I stayed, I stayed out of it because I can't tolerate the stupidity in public. So I didn't want to go out and argue with people every day. So I fucking did it to myself and that's fine. I was willing to do it. But I will say that being this weekend, we went to Arizona, right? They took the mask off, like we said, and fucking people were normal, bro. I felt 1 million percent better. And that's a point that no one's discussed. No one's discussed how much we need the normal interaction. And we need the normal things of like being around people in public or going to a park and seeing people act normal, say hi, hello. Like, dude, that was the first time I've had anybody say hi to me. Like, you know, when they walk by with a mask, no one says shit, but when everybody's normal, it was like, it was just like

it was before. Wasn't it? Yeah. And dude, it felt good. Like it made my heart feel good. And like, I think that the best thing we could do and dude, you're the expert, but the best thing that we could do for people right now is to seriously open shit back up and let them be normal. Absolutely. The government can't do anything to fix the problem except get their boot off the necks of the American people. Right.

And then we'll fix it. Dude, I didn't realize, because I identify sort of as like a fucking, almost like a hermit. Like I'm a very introverted dude, contrary to like what I do on the show. This is like therapy for me, right? But normally, dude, I, I'm a very introverted dude. Contrary to like what I do on the show. This is like therapy for me. Right. But normally, dude, I don't go around people. I don't, I don't, I'm not a, I'm not a social dude. So you, you, you pile that on top of the, the, the shit that went down and bro, it puts

you in a dark fucking spot pretty quick. And I, I, I, I greatly, I actually think that this whole thing is going to be a super positive experience for me because it made me realize how much I do actually enjoy being around people. Yeah, right. Like, it's good to see you motherfuckers. Well, I think that's a cool part about really,

you know, the show or culture and in general. And Doc, I don't know how much you know about our business or what we do, but, you know, we just said, hey, man, we're going to go over here. And we're going to be here Saturday morning at 8 o'clock. If you want to come, we're going to be outside. We're going to go for a hike. We had a couple hundred people show up.

And it was the enjoyment. I mean, talking about people who flew from Boston and Florida and Oregon just to get outside and be fucking normal. Bro, it felt good. It felt really good. And you're at the top. The hike sucked. I'll be honest. Oh, that's because you're a bitch.

Yeah, that's fine. You got to the top of this iconic fucking view. I'm a bitch too. No, but we got to the top of this iconic view and you're with people of like mind and you just went through a physical experience. Like, it's what, it's really what life is about. And I think it taught, I think this is going to teach, like, let's, you know, we talk about the good, a little bit of good here.

I think it's going to, I think people from now on are going to appreciate their fucking freedom when they get it back. I think people are going to appreciate their family and their friends and, and normal things that maybe we took for granted, you know, even kids in middle school, since when did they ever want to go back to school? They're dying to go back to school.

Yeah. Yeah. Bro. My, uh, one of, one of our friends here, uh,

Jessa Hinton, she's a, she's a first form a first form athlete influencer. Her son's 12 years old. And, dude, he stayed in an apartment for a fucking year. And she calls me up one day and she's like, hey, can I bring Kyler out and just to hang out like with the guys? And I'm like, yeah, dude, we it was awesome. He came out here and this dude played basketball for 12 fucking hours straight.

Like 12 hours straight. For grown men. Like just to get out. Yeah. And this little 12 year old dude who's super cool. And he's out there with the guys. Dude, I'm like. Hours.

Dude, I worked out twice. I fucking. Still out there. And I'm like, where's Kyler? And they're like, I look over. I'm like, dude, he's going to be dead tomorrow. My sore. Yeah.

But I mean, it was DJ climb camelback sore. Yeah. But it just shows you, dude, like we need that stuff. We need human interaction. Yeah. And, and, and it hasn't been talked about at all. Like, like I saw a magazine cover yesterday. I think Ian posted it actually.

Did you guys see that? That magazine cover where it was like, um, was like some people sitting at a table toasting wine and then it had people up on the window with masks on talking about vaccine envy. Like they're trying to propagate the fucking vaccine envy. Like they're trying to make people want it. Like FOMO for a vaccine. Yes. Which is the most ridiculous thing. It's insane. And dude, it's just straight like mindfuck marketing. Like, you know, as a business guy, I can identify marketing, you know, like it's just crazy, dude. I don't know.

If you could, because I'm curious, because this is, it's great for us because we have our opinion. We're an opinion based show. Well, just want a quick statement. You know know the rehab that i i'm the director for it's overflowing right now overflowing with people because the mental health and addiction and we do telemedicine where we can like go you know help people without them having to come in so we see a lot of people out of state because they they allow that now without

you having to be licensed in the other state because as part of covet so we see a lot of people out of state and um it's just it's they're overflowing. I think they're going to wind up opening more, more centers because just because of the lockdowns, that's it. That goes to the virus. It's the lockdowns. Lockdowns did way more than the virus ever could in terms of hurting people.

It's not even close. If you could diary dump in your head, what would you say? Like, what do you, from a political standpoint, from a medical standpoint, from just like,

and this is not a political statement. I'm just more curious. Like I know, cause we get identified as far right from the people. If you're, if you're on any side of the left, you know, not really, I guess it's not true. If you're on the far left, no, you either got to be the far 5% loud, obnoxious fucking left, or you're far right. Correct. Yeah. And I, and I would say we, we get called the far right by those people. I'm just curious from a, from your opinion, what do you think went down over the last 365 days? Well, like when we opened up before, initially in the show, it was completely a political power grab. They saw that they could, listen, they had one goal in mind in the beginning, which is clearly not to get Trump reelected.

And, you know, that was one thing in mind. And then they just sort of kept swerving the narrative to make people scared. And now they're making people more scared by pulling this stuff about different strains from different places. Now they're going to try to use that potentially to keep people, oh, no, no, no, we can't open up yet.

There's this strain in New Jersey. You know, some nonsense like that. I mean, I still think, unfortunately, that they have so much fear into the general population. I still think that that they have they have so they put fear so much fear into the general population that i still think that they're most people are blinded i really do i mean still i do a large degree of the population is still blinded and misinformed and i think that's the problem is that it's very hard to get the people to uh you know listen well it's hard to overcome your own ego like it's like dude when you buy into something

psychologically as truth yeah it's very hard to convince you that it's not truth after you've bought into it as truth because what happens is it's your team then yes you have to fucking basically you have to have a conversation with yourself that says all right i was fucking wrong and nobody likes to have that conversation this is say dude we talk a lot about success on the show right this is the same conversation we talk about in business, dude. Like when you make a wrong move, you can't just keep pretending it was right. You're going to lose. Like you got to be able to say, hey, shouldn't have done that fucking shit. But the truth is that's where all the strength comes from. This is what's the irony inside. I mean, the reason I keep going back to your opinion,

because, you know, I have friends who are medical professionals, right? And then, you know, that's what's the irony inside. I mean, the reason I keep going back to your opinion, because, you know, I have friends who are medical professionals, right? And then, you know, you start pointing out these facts. And sometimes, like, because you're not, I don't know, I'm not Harvard educated or Yale educated or have that credentials. Well, because that's low-hanging fruit to try to kill your idea. That's why. Trust me, I'm great at arguing. They're trying to erase.

No, no, but that's your point, right? They could just try to chop you down by saying something about your degree not the facts that you're presenting to them and I think

so but go ahead no no no I'm so I'm I'm just extremely so I'm

I'm a doctor right we're both doctors and I say hey listen you know what I'm an epidemiology major I think you're

a conspiracy theorist how would you combat that well first I'd ask why why do you think I'm a conspiracy theorist. How would you combat that? Well, first I'd ask why. Why do you think I'm a conspiracy theorist? I would say, you know, so you're saying that COVID doesn't exist or what the government did is totally outrageous.

But I think that it is. I'm going to get the vaccine. I'm going to live by the standards. I'm going to lock my house down. I'm going to lock my business down. You're crazy. I'm not. Well, first of all, if it's a free country, I mean, it should be.

So if you want to do that and stay home and isolate and wear a mask, go ahead. You know, but you can't force everybody else to do it just because you think it's the right thing to do. Well, that's the problem. Yeah. It's the virtue signaling. Yes. It's all that. So, yeah.

No, but to your point, you're sort of asking me like what debate points to have when you're arguing with someone, I guess. No, I'm just logically like looking through this like okay i mean if they're calling conspiracy theorists they have to come up with some information as to why they're even saying that they don't have to but i mean if you're engaging i'm assuming you're engaging in a semi-intellectual debate with somebody so if that's the case then why would they say that because i don't even know one point we talked about on the show that's that like is not a fact i found in fact I don't know what what did we discuss that you think would put you into the conspiracy

category today in the show I don't know about previous shows you guys done but like in the show like there's nothing that we talked about this a lot no yeah yeah no I don't know what where is the conspiracy piece here I mean you know what fact it looks like to be like like to follow that would make you a conspiracy theorist. Do you have one in mind? No, I mean, you know, because in my experience, well, you're saying COVID is not fake. No, no, we're not saying COVID. We're not saying COVID is fake.

We're saying that it's not as impactful as. Exactly. Maybe they want you to believe, you know, and it's the constant argument around the fact of, well, you should be vaccinated. Well, wait, I don't want to get vaccinated. I think that I'm fucking healthy. I've been out moving the whole time. I haven't fucking stopped. Well, you're putting everybody else in danger.

And it's like, well, what the fuck? Not if you're fucking vaccinated, bitch. Yeah, well, but then we got to all wear masks. What's the point of getting vaccinated? Dude, none of it makes sense. That's the point. And that's my whole problem is I'm constantly in this cycle. Let's back it up a second.

This is a free country, right? This is not like communist Russia, right? You don't have to get vaccines because other people want you to, right? You're entitled to not get that vaccine. Now, certain states may say, hey, listen, you can't go to the public school district if you don't do that, but you still have the right. Then you can stay home. But you have the right to, you know, you don't have to get vaccinated because somebody else

thinks it's in their best interest. You know, I mean, come on. You don't have, you're a healthy person you don't have to inject things into your body you know for to protect the ultimate problem here dude is that people can't have basic confrontation discussions with anybody like a lot of you guys out there you're just compliant because you're too pussy to fucking say anything to anybody that's the truth you don't want a you you can't confront a 17 year old fucking person that says, Hey, wear a mask, sir. And you can't say no. Like, dude, that's probably indicative of why you can't get anything done your whole life. Just being real. Like, that's not a hard thing to do.

It's very easy. We as society have lost the ability to communicate in an effective way, especially in a way that might be a little bit uncomfortable. And, you know, like, I don't have a problem telling no, like, yeah, like, no, no, like, it's really simple. And like, you keep moving. Yeah. You know, you don't got to sit there and have a debate. It's it's no. And move. How would you answer the question? And all right, if it was about the presidential debate or the presidential election, when Biden's elected, how come we're still coming up with new strands? How come the...

Yeah, I mean, look, it's such... Look, I'm not a politician, right? So this is just my opinion, not based on any science here. But I think that probably initially there was a tremendous push because hospitalizations and death rates were already plummeting before Trump was going to be elected. But CNN is still scrolling the case counts and they know that's not the number that matters.

It's the hospitalizations and deaths from COVID that actually matters as a clinical important, you know, significant study. So, you know, I think that at first it was probably heavily that the election. Right. To think that it's not influenced by that is, I think, a bit naive. And then after that, now there's still swampy interest, I think, going on right now with farm, big pharma and other things right now. I'm telling you, things are going to get better. CNN pulled the debt let the they'll let their foot off the gas on these restrictions now because it's not like the presidential elections up for grabs right now. So I think that I think you're going to see things get better. I really do, because they don't have to worry about Trump getting elected. But I but it's a debriefing period is what I'm saying. I don't think they can just say, hey, guys, everything's cool tomorrow because they know what they did to the people. Right, right.

It kind of makes it makes them look more guilty. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like, you know, they're going to do it in a way, I think, where it gives people an out not to wear the mask and still think that they were right the whole time. Like, dude, I agree with that. Yeah. Because, I mean, we saw it a week or two ago.

Now there's this, you're a COVID survivor. Oh, COVID survivor. We survived COVID, man man i'm so proud i've been seeing that on fucking instagram jesus christ i'm a covid survivor dude can we fucking get over this victim shit oh my god like motherfucker you had a fucking cold like yeah i survived brushing my teeth this morning where are we going with this you know another thing that i i absolutely hate is when you scroll on IG and you'll see a person. They take a picture with their mask on.

I won't like it. But no, no. But here's the thing. I don't either. But then you swipe, you know, because you have multiple posts, right? You swipe and they're in the same fucking spot without the mask on. But it's also they glorify getting the vaccine, right? All the photos of them getting the shots and they're off to doctors.

Dude, bro, they're giving stickers like they voted yeah i got vaccinated today i'm like well you're a fucking idiot nobody like you know like i don't bro you have to be dude you have to be fucking stupid like i i'm just being real like how do you take some drugs that some dude manufactured in fucking six months that there's been no studies on at all like dude well i mean i mean in fairness to that they sell a lot of meth. Huh? They make a lot of meth. It's a man-made drug.

I mean, if I could- You lost me on that one at first. Supply to man. What? Not a lot of studies on it. Nobody really knows the dosage it goes in. It's made in a fucking stove in the back of a trailer park. Newborn babies,

immune systems are barraged now by the schedule of vaccinations at such an early age. They are barraged by vaccines right now. And it's just, the number keeps going up and up and up and up and up. And, you know, that's a newborn immune system that really hasn't gotten a chance to develop at all. And so it's, you know, I think we got to be very cautious about how easily that big pharma just keep adding things to the curriculum

of vaccines to an otherwise healthy person. In fact, babies, they vaccinate them for hepatitis, which you can only get from blood, from sex or from IV needles, right? So why does a baby have to get that when they're born? You know, and I think that each person should be looking at each condition and the vaccine and decide what's my risk if I get this thing I'm getting vaccinated against versus what's the point here? We have, you know, so many people getting vaccinated and they're out for a week because they don't feel good because they basically get like a mild upper respiratory infection or mild cold or mild flu type illness. And there are people who get it and don't have two, three days worth of symptoms. I see them all the time. In fact, half the people I see are young

adolescents and they only knew they were positive because they were traveling and they had to get tested. They were all asymptomatic. So, you know, you got to keep that in mind when you're weighing benefit versus risk, which is why I don't want the vaccine because I'm just not convinced that it's good. Why do I need it? Well, I think it comes back to just taking that personal responsibility and accountability for your own health, right? Like, I mean, nobody else is going to do it for you. Nobody else is responsible for it. You have to do that. You have to go look into that stuff. Well, I mean, think about the image, right? You have someone who's obese diabetic hypertensive you know hyperlipidemia well you know and and they're sitting there and and you know you're isolating them putting a mask on and giving them

a vaccine you think they're making them healthy of course not of course not so but that's what that that's what they want to propagate here is that outside in health like you don't have to do anything just sit there victim mentality we'll inject you and put a mask on your head and we'll lock you at home and where's the health that's not health care no no i said it a couple of days ago i've made a post i said i guarantee you that if the cdc came out and said that everybody needs to take a condom and put it on top of their head the majority of people would fucking do it fuck they say that about sex and they don't do it there. There's a lot of people that should have wore it. Well, I mean, no.

But if they fucking told everybody that you got COVID from having sex, everybody would wear a condom. Maybe that's what they should try. I mean, if they said green masks were better than blue masks, people would wear green masks. Oh, yeah. Dude, that's all you would see. Yeah, that's it. Tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. Dude, that's all you would see. Yeah.

That's it. Yeah. And then they'd be shaming you because you had a blue mask on. That was last week, bro. You stupid motherfucker. You're killing us. Is there anybody that the vaccine would benefit? I think there's a case to be made that if you're in a high-risk group and you're obese and have other comorbidities,

then I think there's a case to be made that, listen, yeah, you should change your entire lifestyle. But in the meanwhile, let me give you some antibodies. So this way, you know, if you do get sick, well, you know, listen, that's the case to be made for the flu shot in some populations. Right. But do I don't get the flu shot every year because I'm just not afraid of the flu. You know, again, half the people get a low grade malaise type of syndrome anyway. So and then still get the flu on top of that because they always get the strains wrong. So the flu shot at best is like 20 percent effective. Literally, I don't think many people know that 20 percent effective. So, no, I don't want it.

Right. And and, you know, the government can make any narrative they want to keep people in fear to get the vaccine. But if you use some common sense, you know, just take a look. What's your risk if you get the fact, if you get influenza or if you get COVID? That's going to happen. And that's the thing, like you talk about obese people, right? Like taking this vaccine. Okay, cool. That's a short term fix. But what about COVID-20 when that comes out? But what about the next thing? Like, like that's a short temporary fix to a bigger issue. What's the adverse reaction rate on these vaccines? Well, it depends on what you call an adverse reaction. Like, you know.

No, like severe. Like you're getting fucked up. Like I know like if you get the vaccine, you know, you're likely to get a little sick or whatever. I get that. But what I'm saying is, is like. Yeah, I mean, I think it's like, I think the studies that, I mean, they're preliminary

really, right. They don't have a lot of data, but I think it's like, you know, it's below 10%. Oh, really? That's not as bad as I thought it was. I thought it was like 40%. You know, you could pull it up, but I think it's somewhere in that, in that, in that range. I don't think it's even been enough time yet. But again, you know, there's soreness at the injection site and then there's like anaphylaxis.

Like, you know, I don't, you got to look at what you. But again, you know, there's soreness at the injection site and then there's like anaphylaxis. Like, you know, I don't, you got to look at what you're, what you're saying is. Do you think Fauci took the vaccine? Fauci? Yeah. I actually think that he, I actually think that he's probably believes the stuff he does. What do you, what do you think about what he does? I mean, look, you know, the problem is if you take epidemiologists are there, they have such like myopic vision. They only see one thing like case counts, look, you know, the problem is if you take epidemiologists are there, they have such like myopic vision.

They only see one thing like case counts, numbers, stats. They don't look at the big picture where you have to balance, you know, people being isolated, overdoses, all the things that are going wrong with kids not being in school. They're not looking at anything to balance. They're just looking at they keep people out. They would keep people locked in their homes for the next 40 years. That's right. If it was up to Fauci and their cronies, that's it. Because because that's how they see the world it's like they're just so myopic they just see germs and like everyone should stay home but that's not how that's not real life and dude the

other thing too you can see this when he talks like if you observe him when he talks he doctors have this thing where they you know it's like when you go get a scan or something and you ask them and you say, hey, how'd it go? And they're, oh, we can't fucking tell you. Like, you got to have to wait, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nobody ever wants to say anything that's going to get their ass in the fucking fire, right? So when there's a chance of somebody actually dying or getting sick, they err so far on the side of safety that the collateral shit is not even a factor in their, what they say.

And you could see that when Fauci talks, like he is a fucking book nerd who has been put in a very bad position to be the main source of information and communication. When in reality, what they should have had was what they had in the beginning, where you got four or five people saying, hey, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they come to a conclusion, just like you would do in any decision making process. You know, but like, I mean, fuck, dude, that dude's getting rich, too. Let's be real. Like he's getting fucking paid. Whoever's close to him, go check their bank accounts. It'll be like the Hunter Biden shit.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's speculation. It's not fact, but it's a fucking pretty good guess you know so i don't i don't i don't so i'll just look up the vaccine doses right now and for missouri for example uh 9.2 percent of the missouri population is fully vaccinated 9.7 percent of the entire u.s is fully vaccinated but 0.7% of the entire U.S. is fully vaccinated. But 0.90% of the world population is fully vaccinated. I don't really think anybody's going to get vaccinated, bro.

I don't see this number going over 15%. What do you think? I think it will. I think this is a tremendous push to get people vaccinated right now. Tremendous. What do you think the final number will be? Just a guess. We're not going to hold you to it. I mean, no. I mean, look. Iremendous. What do you think the final number would be? Just a guess. We're not going to

know. I mean, look, I don't know. It's tough to guess that, but I think probably you're probably going to, I think you'll be probably close to 20%. Yeah, I think a lot of people are getting vaccinated. Even 20% in the grand scheme of what they're trying to do. Well, you know, the thing is that they never

really thought they were going to vaccinate people into complete herd immunity. They were, I think, partially relying on people's natural exposure they never really thought they were going to vaccinate people into complete herd immunity. They were, I think, partially relying on people's natural exposure and developing antibodies plus the vaccines to get you to that 75% mark of the herd immunity where we can go back to life as we know it before. Do you think that's a reality? Yeah, I think it's going to happen this month. It's happening fast now. Yeah, very fast because so many people are getting vaccinated. Who's the last state to go?

What? California or New York? California or New York. I think right now California is the worst state in the entire country in terms of this stuff. Oh, I think it was that way before the pandemic. Oh, yeah. No, agreed. You ever been there?

Jesus. Dude, yeah. I used to go there every fucking what? Once a month? I'm just saying like. Dude, I stopped going there because of this shit. No, I mean, California is still the most. I think they're the most locked down state in the union. Bro, I was in San Francisco when this whole thing hit. No, I'm just saying like. Dude, I stopped going there because of this shit. No, I mean, California is still the most, I think they're the most locked down state

in the union. Bro, I was in San Francisco when this whole thing hit. Bro, I love California. Like, dude, you walk down the street, you leave me the fuck alone, don't talk to nobody. Awesome place. But the minute you got to deal with any of this fucking, like, dude, people there are, it's just different. It's hard.

Well, they push all the other people out. No, and they're all loud and they're all aggressive and they all fucking hate people like me. They're the most extreme. Yeah. Especially San Francisco. Bro.

I mean, I was literally... I'll tell you another thing too. You could tell that in Missouri, when you were a kid and you did something wrong, you got punched in the fucking face. And when you go in California, you could tell those kids

never got fucking punched in the face. They got put in timeout. That's right. You go to timeout. No, no, no. Bro, get your ass whooped. People will just say shit to you and I'm like, what? Nah, everyone wants their own safe space in California. Yeah. I think everyone wants their own safe space in life right now.

Yeah. I don't know, man. Like, dude, when we went to Arizona, it was normal, dude. I loved Arizona. I did too, bro. I love the people. You people in Arizona, you're good people. Pretty cool. Yeah. I'll drive. Albert, I'll drive. Yeah, normal, dude. I loved Arizona. I did too, bro. I love the people. You people in Arizona, you're good people. Pretty cool. Yeah. I'll drive. I'll drive. Yeah, he was cool. Within 30 seconds, I'm like, yeah, okay, we're good. He showed up with a mask and I

looked at him and I'm like, hey, bro, you can wear that if you want, but you don't have to. And he took that shit right off, dude. He's like, you're my kind of people. I'm like, yeah, we're cool. We're good. And then I'm sitting in the backseat like, can we take this plastic shit down though so do you wear a mask in new york city when you walk around uh i don't wear a mask outside ever um and i don't really wear one indoors unless i'm told i have to so uh and i'm not i don't i really haven't been in the city i

don't want to no one wants to even be there everything they almost destroyed everything all the restaurants are gone dude that's so sad very sad dude new york city like no bullshit like it was my favorite fucking place to go like i love new york city the energy is there like a lot of people are like oh the people are they're they're my kind of people like i like people that are direct like that's the shit that i've been around like dude i fucking love new york city and like the fact that like, dude, just makes me so sad because that's like I love go. I would go there two, three times a year. You know what I'm saying?

Now it's like, dude, I'm not going there because they want to force the fucking laws. So you walk down the street, you get fucking shot. Like, it's like it was in the 80s. Yeah. For Giuliani. Yeah. Giuliani cleaned that up. Just destroyed one of the most beautiful

fucking cool ass places on the planet it'll come back though dude new yorkers are resilient yeah i mean i think so it's just they really it's been brutal brutal because a lot of those a lot of the restaurants in new york city i mean they went out of business they couldn't sustain for a year dude people got to wake up to this political shit i mean i know we haven't talked too much politically we've been talking mainly about the Corona thing. But like, guys, you're on the wrong fucking team. Like, dude. Yeah.

Quit voting for this shit. I was talking to one of our friends, Morgan Dawson, who moved from California to Dallas. She said, when I got in the Uber the first time I got to Dallas, the Uber driver goes, now you know you're Republican now, right? You ain't bringing that shit here. She goes, I laughed, but he was serious. Do you plan on leaving New York, or what are you thinking? No, I'm probably going to wind up staying put um you're established there i yeah i like i i like new york i just the city is atrocious but like in the suburbs it's not bad they let the city go to hell missouri missouri is pretty

kind of i would say it's pretty similar i mean like you know because we're in the county right now but the further you get out of the the metro populous areas the better you're fine yeah you know but you you go downtown it'd be a little weird yeah man any parting words anything i got i got i got someone to ask and then we'll we'll get to that so you're in charge right now like fauci waves his fucking wand and says that you're in charge. What do we do? You got to open everything up, but you can do it in a sensible way, which means that if you're old or have multiple comorbidities,

then you don't have to go out into the crowded stores. But let people get back to life again because it's just, it's been so bad for so long because these lockdowns affecting every segment of life that it just doesn't make any sense

to keep society locked down. There's no evidence to support it. They always talk about, you know, left always saying, follow the science. The science is just proving everything. Open schools up. They should have never been closed ever and open the rest of society up. And if people are high risk and can stay home, they get vaccinated the whole thing, but you open up sensibly and you just stop the nonsense. A hundred percent agree. I got my vote, bro. For real, dude.

Doc, I really appreciate you coming through, man. This is a great conversation. It's, it's nice to, I feel validated. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, uh, you got a blue check. Well, yeah, I got fucking trashed all year because I'm not a doctor. And so, you know, dude, thank you so much for coming in. And that was my pleasure.

Thank you so much for inviting me. Dude, what's your Instagram handle? It's my name, Russell Sarasky. MD, that's the name. So it's R-U-S-S-E-L-L-S-U-R-A-S-K-Y-M-D on Instagram. You guys should follow him because he puts out a ton of great content that is the real data of what's going on. Another doctor to follow who's been really good, as I mentioned before, is Dr. Ben Tapper. You guys know each other, right? Yeah. So I want to get him down here on the show as well. But dude, it's been a great conversation. Totally on the

same page. That's not why I picked you, by the way. But dude, thank you for coming in, man. Hopefully we'll get through this soon. No, it's my pleasure. And I am very optimistic. I'm forward looking. I'm very optimistic. But that doesn't mean you forget about what just happened and that you don't try to learn from it. And so if we just say, oh, well, you know, what's done is done. Let's move forward now.

That's not the right thing to do because they'll be back. The power grab will be back. Oh, yeah, dude, there has to be legislation that keeps this from ever happening again. It can never happen again. And we, we, the people have to never allow it again. Like you, you guys who, you know,

you know, and we've had some, I love you guys, right? Even if you're buying into this shit, the reason I've been so vocal is because I do love you guys. If I didn't give a fuck, I wouldn't say anything.

I would just go allow my life. You guys who, who have bought into this shit, who are going to realize that you got fucked. We have to come together as a whole to never allow this to happen again. It can never happen again. And you shouldn't feel bad. You shouldn't feel embarrassed. You shouldn't be ashamed because literally every single media outlet, every single person that you were told you should trust, every single news channel you were told you should trust has lied to you. And it's been consistent all year for their own benefit. And we as American people cannot allow this to continue to happen to us because

it's destroying not only our health, but our sanity, our business, our future, our ability to move forward and progress and enjoy our lives, which is what we do here in America. This is a free country. This is not a country of the small percentage of the population who is extremely loud, tells the rest what to do. No, fuck you. The rest of us can do what we want to. And you guys have to get comfortable being that way. And I think if there's anything to learn from this, I think it is one, we all should appreciate our freedom a lot more than what we have in the past. I think we could all say after this year that maybe we all took it for granted a little bit. I know I did. And it's something

that's important to me. So if it's something that you really don't think about, I'm sure you took it for granted. But secondly, you know, guys, this is tyrannical behavior. And if we allow tyrannical behavior to become part of our culture in this country, you're not going to like the way it ends up. And you guys who are arguing about saying, oh, well, I'm right, I'm wrong, or you're wrong, I'm right, I'm this, I'm that, it doesn't fucking matter because we're all going to lose. We're all going to lose. Not just me because I'm going to get sick because I didn't wear a mask like you guys think. No, you're going to fucking lose too because you're not going to be able to have an education. You're not going to be able to have school. Dude, most of the kids

that are doing, not most, but a huge percentage of the kids doing these virtual classes which we didn't even talk about are failing you know like they're not even showing up the parents have dude guys not everybody has good parents that give a fuck about their kids like some of these kids that that all they have is their teachers that care and they do you teachers who are refusing to go back in the face of all this data you should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. I'm being real. You're getting paid. You chose this career. Go do the fucking job. Get over yourself. If you're so smart and you're a teacher, you should understand the data and stop punishing these fucking kids for your want to stay at home and get fucking paid. Because that's what it really is what it really is is you don't have to do shit and you get paid for it and that's fucking wrong so i could do a whole

another thing about that but anyway bro awesome show really really appreciate it you got anything to say i just appreciate you coming on yeah i just wanted to ask some questions great discussion yeah there are things that we get hammered with on the backside and it's kind of like you're right i'm not a doctor. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. It makes me a bad motherfucker. It does. It does.

It's annoying. Yeah, it's just annoying. And it's validating. It's very refreshing to hear. It's like, all right, because people, can you send me the study that you guys referenced on the CDC and the mask? I'm like, bro, listen, I'm not fucking Google. No, Sal, that's the whole problem.

They won't look it up for themselves. Yeah, it's like, hey, man, I got three fucking kids. I got shit to do. Yes, I read it. I'm not going to go back, I'm not fucking Google. No, Sal, that's the whole problem. They won't look it up for themselves. Yeah, it's like, hey, man, like I got three fucking kids. I got shit to do. Yes, I read it. I'm not going to go back and do your homework for you. And I think therein lies the same thing going back to obesity and weight. It's like, hey, you have to go do this work. Like I can't.

And unfortunately, because we've created this society of digesting this information that they tell us, like you have to be told what to do. No, no, no, no, no. Go look for it yourself. Go do the work yourself. It's amazing what's out there when you go see it. It's amazing what this top of Camelback Mountain looks like, isn't it? Pretty awesome. But I just want to say thank you for coming out.

I really appreciate it. It's been great. You got anything to say? I'm good. All right. Dr. Thumbs. What is it? Daddy Thumbs?

Daddy Thumbs. Daddy Thumbs says we're good. Daddy Thumbs up his ass. All right. All right, guys. That's the show. Special thanks to Dr. Russell. Guys, if you like the show, please share it.

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Appreciate you, brother. And we'll see you guys next time.