REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 1031. Q&AF Ft. Tim Grover: Avoiding Discomfort, Staying Motivated After Big Wins & Becoming Your Best Self
Episode Date: May 27, 2026On today's episode, Andy and DJ are joined by Tim Grover. They answer your questions on how to break free from comfort that's holding you back in life, how to stay driven after achieving a major goal,... and how to become the person you know you're capable of being.
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What's up, dude?
Good and Morgan.
Yeah.
What's going on?
Good and Morgan, huh?
Yeah.
Something,
Morgan's good.
Yeah.
What's going on, bro?
Nothing, dude.
Yeah.
You're looking at a little beat over there.
Dude, I'm exhausted.
Yeah.
I did the MR.
Yeah, did the MR.
Yeah, did the MR.
Did.
I was literally writing up a caption for my IG post.
That is something that I've avoided for six fucking years.
Yeah.
And they got done today.
Yeah.
You know,
and how are you like it again?
Next year.
Oh.
Yeah.
It's a once a year.
I mean,
listen,
we're going to prep for it.
You know,
I'm going to beat my time.
That's it.
My standard and it will get beat next year.
Well,
speaking on the book on Mental Toughness,
we have Mr.
Tim Grover here with us who wrote the forward for the book.
I couldn't think of anybody better to write it.
I got some good ones for both of you.
Oh,
You got some really, really good ones.
Some really good ones.
Get ahead of yourself.
Yeah.
Let's get back to you looking like you just got your ass beat.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
I did.
I beat my own ass.
Yeah.
It's better than beating your own meat, huh?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, it's good though.
It feels good though, man.
You know, I'm sore.
It feels good.
You already sore?
Bro.
Listen, I was sore when I had to run that second mile.
Like, I was already.
I'm like, all right.
You know, but,
But no, dude, I'm...
You want to explain to the audience what actually you did that they know what the Murph is.
Yeah, what the Murph is.
Yeah, it's a Memorial Day challenge in honor of Michael Murphy, Lieutenant Michael Murphy.
You start off with a mile run.
Then it's 100 pull-ups, 200 push-ups, and then 300 air squats, and then another one-mile run.
And you can do it, wait it.
I think that's like what's recommended.
I did a...
I use wheels.
So I think it's like a 20 pound.
Did you do it in that succession or did you do little rotations?
No, I did rotations.
I broke it up.
So I did my mile first and then I did 20 rounds basically of five pull-ups, 10 push-ups,
and then 15 air squads.
I did 20 of those rounds.
Now, I know you didn't do clean pull-ups.
No, absolutely not.
No, I mean, it was a sister.
You scaled it out.
Yeah, just scaled it out.
Oh, that's all right.
But, you know.
I was just curious.
Yeah.
Listen, dude.
That's like, I mean, that's a goal.
You know what I'm a fellow fat dude.
I know what pull-ups are all about.
It's like when you're in grade school and they put you up on the pull-up bar
and you just hang there.
That's right.
That's what it's like.
And then you're like, all right.
You kind of like and then you get off.
Yeah.
No, but the standard has been set.
Then you short is off and everybody can see.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We've all been there, all three of us.
Yeah.
It's the worst, bro.
Yeah, it feels good though, man.
You know, you got it down.
The standard has been set.
Good.
So good.
Feels good though, man.
Yeah, how are you doing?
You're good.
Yeah, you look good, man.
He's doing a thing.
I like you with the glasses.
Oh, do you?
Yeah, I do.
Well, like, it's just, it's giving something, man.
It's given.
It's just something little different, huh?
I think that's what the youngsters say.
You're going to be careful.
You're talking about beating meat night.
You're talking about liking with the glasses.
Where are we going here?
I'm getting ready to step out, man.
You're going to say, Tim, how are you doing, man?
How are you doing, Tim?
I'm excellent.
I'm, you know, I am excellent.
I'm sitting here with individuals I truly admire, you know, DJ, we've been on you.
for a long time and I come in here
and just the results that you have
the transformation has been exceptional man
I know we pissed you off a lot of times
but you saw the result
and until like Andrew said
when you made the decision
that's when everything that's when everything happened
and we're both extremely proud of you
and just keep just keep going
yeah what he's saying is don't get fucking fat
yeah yeah just just just keep going
because listen that fat when you go home
that fat person is waiting for you.
Oh yeah.
He's standing right outside of the pocket.
He's in there, bro.
He sits in the car.
They go to sleep every, every, every single, every single day.
He's just waiting.
They're just, they're just, they're just,
waiting to whisper in your ears.
Yeah.
Chinese buffet.
That's right.
You know.
Pizza.
Taping you on her.
Taping you on the shoulder.
That goes for all of us.
Oh, bro.
Listen, all the reason I know that is because he's
in there talking to me every day.
Mine hasn't paid rent so long, but he's been living there.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, man. It's awesome. It's a great day to get better today.
It is. And in honor of having Tim on, I got some really, really good questions for
everybody here. So let's make some people better, shall we?
Let's do it.
Guys, Andy, Tim. Question number one.
Andy, I'm 24, and I honestly think comfort has become my biggest enemy.
anytime life gets hard
I instantly look for distractions
like food or my phone or sleep
anything to avoid discomfort
I know discipline matters
but how do you train yourself
to stop running from hard things
when your brain is wired to avoid them
well I don't know how do you get muscles
you lift heavy shit
okay
like how do you how do you be able to run 20 miles
you start trying to run.
All right?
You got to understand that your discipline is a skill set
that has to be cultivated and trained
in order for it to work.
So when you say,
well, I know discipline is important.
No.
Discipline is fucking everything.
It will decide whether or not
you actually become what you want to become or not.
It will dictate your physique.
It will dictate your physique.
It will dictate your income.
It will dictate your spouse. It will dictate your family. It will dictate every single thing in your life.
The problem isn't that people don't know what to do. It's that they lack the ability to do it. It's the ability to adhere to a plan and
You could get any recipe for anything out of a book and literally read it and make the best possible version of that if you follow the directions. It's not that the plan is a
not out there. It's that you can't follow the fucking plan. All right? And that's what you have to
understand. And instead of looking at discipline as if it's some sort of mystical force, like all of
us did at some point in our life, you have the opportunity as a very young person to figure out
that this is a perishable skill set that needs to be trained on a regular basis. So that would be my
first thing to say to you is that you have to understand that you have to invest in this. You have to
train it and you have to train it by making the hard decisions that feel very hard for you right
now over and over and over again.
And as you make those decisions and as you do the thing that is required instead of the
thing that makes you more comfortable, you gain strength.
That muscle, that discipline muscle begins to develop.
It gets stronger.
It gets bigger.
It gets more capable of making the right decisions.
And that's going to require you with a very weak discipline muscle to do and make decisions around things that seem to be very hard.
But once you develop that muscle and once you develop that ability, the decisions that you're struggling with now become almost automatic down the road.
All right.
No different that when you first go into a gym and you start to lift some weights and those weights feel very heavy, you have to continue.
you have to continue to lift those little weights
and look stupid and feel stupid
before you can get to the big weights
and then once you get to the big weights,
you go back to lift the little weights
and it's very easy.
So these decisions that you're struggling with
while they seem very hard to you,
they're only hard because you lack the skill set
of discipline that you haven't built yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you described this before too,
you know, because I know we talk about this on CTI, but like, I mean, these young kids now with social media, their phones, like all of these things, they are inundated with it, right?
Like, it's a trillion dollar industry that's being pumped to them. And you've described discipline before. It was like the pizza or the food is this like inanimate object, not having power over you.
Yeah.
Can you dive into, because maybe like this is. Well, it's very simple. Are you literally going to give up your entire fucking life because something sits in front of you that has no.
No, not a single thing in it has control over anything.
Yeah.
And you're going to look at that thing, whether it be alcohol or food or whatever it may be.
And you're going to allow this inanimate object to fucking beat you.
What is fucking weaker than that?
That is the weakest shit.
When you say it like that, that is the weakest fucking shit.
You are literally losing to something that.
that has no fucking power.
It's like it's not even alive.
It's not even a real thing.
You're losing to yourself.
And that's what you have to understand.
DJ, read the first part of the question again.
I'm 24 and I honestly think comfort has become my biggest enemy.
Okay.
Keep going.
Anytime life gets hard.
All right.
Stop right there.
24 and life is hard.
I mean, Uncle Tim's here, baby.
Yeah, bro.
That's the, you know, I get that.
But, you know, you don't know what you don't know, right?
Like, you don't know that it keeps getting fucking hard.
That's what you're 25, don't.
Dude, you can't even rent a car yet.
And literally, look, you have to go, this person has to go back to the way he was brought up.
And somewhere down the line, you'll know exactly why you are the way you are.
And when you recognize that and you're willing to deal with that, this will start to change.
Otherwise, you're going to be sitting here.
You're going to be asking the same question at 30, 35, 40, 45.
You're just going to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again.
All right.
Deal with what made you this way.
whether it was your upbringing,
whether there was something that happened,
or everything was just handed to you.
You never had to work for anything.
You're addicted to you.
You have an addiction you don't want to deal with.
It starts and ends with you.
And then when you're going to,
when Andrew talks about the discipline stuff,
everyone, you have to master,
everyone tries to discipline themselves in multiple things.
Discipline yourself in one thing, master it.
then discipline yourself and the other thing, master it.
You know, everybody wants to go from one thing to the other,
to the other, to the other.
And the other thing, listen, dude, you stop making fucking excuses, all right.
This is like, you know, it's everybody, yeah, you know what,
the brain is designed for comfort.
The brain is designed for relaxation.
But everything you want and everything you look at on your phone all day,
and you say, man, how are they doing?
It's not a secret.
It's not a secret.
He just gave you the solution.
in five minutes, literally in five minutes.
And like he said, the recipe is out there.
You're looking, you're looking, you know what?
Start the 75 hard.
That's why we built the program.
It's not a physical program.
Start to say, are you going to fail?
Absolutely you're going to fucking fail.
Absolutely you're going to fail.
But you're going to fail at something you actually put some fucking effort into it.
Dude, the thing is, with 75 hard, is the, you know, people are like, oh, I got to
I got to get to day 50 and start the fuck over.
Yes.
That's how fucking life works.
Yes.
Okay?
You don't fail and then get to take a fucking vacation and be who you used to be.
If you really want to fucking change it, like you really want to change it.
And at 24 years old, I, dude, I would be in exactly where you are right now, being exactly
where I am right now, I don't have to know shit about you.
I would fucking trade places with you in one second because you are aware enough.
to understand that you lack the discipline.
I was not until I was 36 years old.
Okay, that's 12 years that I fucked off
from the time where you are
to the time where I finally figured it out.
You have an opportunity right now
to figure this out to the point
where you could develop this skill set
which will allow you to execute in a way
that nobody else your age is going to.
And by the way, it's not just your age.
almost everybody. Everybody quits when it gets hard. Everybody seeks comfort when it gets hard.
Oh, I deserve this. Everybody lies to themselves about what they've done to deserve these things.
Dude, it's all a lie. It's all bullshit. Do you really want it or do you fucking not want it?
If you really want it, do the fucking program because that will help you understand and consistently
invest in this skill set. That's why 7,500.
is not a one and done thing.
Okay.
It is a program.
The live hard program is a program
that is done literally
every year.
You know why it's done every year?
The same reason you take a fucking shower every day.
Because if you don't practice discipline,
you become less discipline.
It is a perishable skill.
And if you can learn that at 24 fucking years old,
dude,
you have no idea
the advantage you have over every,
everybody else because everybody else is going to do exactly what Tim said.
They're going to go to next year.
They're going to start with next Monday, right?
This is how it goes because I did this.
You know what?
I need to get in shit.
I need to do this.
I need to do that.
Well, fresh start on Monday.
And then by Wednesday, they're already given in to all this comfort bullshit.
And they're like,
I'll fucking start again on Monday fresh.
And because I'm going to start again on Monday,
from now until Monday, I'm going to do all of the shit.
shit that I know I won't be able to do for the next, you know, however long.
Because I'm starting Monday.
Right.
And then what that does is that starts to compound.
And it's just math.
You're spending four or five days of the week trying to do all the stuff you know you're
not supposed to do, which then creates a bigger mountain and a bigger mountain and a bigger mountain.
And eventually that mountain is so big that people look at it and they're like, fuck it.
I can't fucking do it.
Okay.
And this all comes from your inability to overcome the very small decisions on a daily
basis which challenge you.
And so instead of looking at these things like, oh, they're hard, you need to develop
a little bit of fuck you.
Okay.
And what I mean by that is, oh, that's a test.
That's a test.
This isn't going to fucking break me.
This fucking beer doesn't have any power over me.
This fucking pizza doesn't have any power over me.
Fuck that shit.
I'm stronger than that.
That's what I mean by fuck you.
And you are stronger than that.
But you have to understand that it's by overcoming these.
little things in the day to day that allow you to have the discipline to do the big things
that create the big outcomes that you're after.
And to be real with you, dude, you are in a great spot because you're 20 fucking four years old.
People will 99% of people will never fucking figure this out.
They'll go their whole lives and they'll say, man, I wonder why that guy's got all these,
why is he so disciplined?
Why is he so good?
How can this guy do this?
How can that person do that?
I wish I had that.
The reason they have that is because they made a conscious decision at some point in time
to not let external circumstances dictate the outcome of their fucking life.
And you have to make that decision.
Am I going to live like everybody else?
Am I going to do what everybody else does?
Am I going to have what everybody else has?
Or am I going to become the best that I can fucking be?
And that's your fucking choice.
And there is no other choice, by the way.
You don't get to be in the middle.
It's either you did or you fucking didn't.
And that's it.
So I would make the decision right now to come to an understanding that discipline is something that you can build, create, and use to create the life that you want.
But you sure as fuck aren't going to create the life that you want if you can't conquer a motherfucking beer.
Yeah.
Okay.
One thing that everybody in this room, every individual that's done something, that's done something,
something extraordinary. I'm talking about from writing books to poetry to businesses to sport.
They all had one thing in common. At some point, they all wanted to quit. And they didn't.
That is it, man. And they didn't. The other thing is, I do give him, I'm assuming it's a guy.
It's a guy. I'm assuming, okay, the courage, you took the step to write this, to write this out.
So now you have recognition. You're recognizing, I have an issue.
I need to figure this out.
Understand thing about discipline.
All right.
Not being disciplined is a discipline.
That's just like when people say,
oh, the cue of success is consistency.
Motherfucker, you're consistent.
You're just consistent in the wrong things.
Right.
Yeah.
So you have the, don't tell me you're not doing.
You're just disciplined in the wrong things.
Yeah.
So you are disciplined.
You're just disciplined in the wrong things.
Not being disciplined is a decision.
It's a decision.
All right.
Yeah, dude, this is not this, look, and I agree with you, man.
Like, number one, this, we're talking about greatness here.
Okay, we're talking about extracting what God has put in you.
This is why you have this feeling.
The reason you have this feeling of being behind and not being good enough and, you know,
not doing, I need to do this and this and this.
That's because that was.
put in you for a fucking reason.
And your purpose is to pull that out and share it because it's going to create greatness,
not just in you in your life, but in society.
And when you think about like where most people are, they think about this in terms of making
money.
But this isn't just about money, bro.
This is about like Tim said, contribution.
It could be art.
It could be music.
It could be.
it can be anything,
whatever you want to be great at.
And I do give this young man credit,
not just for asking the question,
but for being aware enough to acknowledge your own shortcomings.
Because it starts with a really hard look in the mirror.
We are our biggest liars.
We will lie to ourselves about fucking everything.
And if you will not stand in front of the mirror
and take a real, true, honest, unbiased,
accountable assessment of your own life, you cannot win.
You cannot win.
There is going to become a time if you want to create what it is that you want to
do that you're going to have to look at yourself, dude, and you're going to have to
realize it's nobody's fault.
It's fucking not your parents' fault.
It's not your friend's fault.
It's not your coach's fault.
It's not your boss's fault.
It's not your girlfriend.
It's not your boyfriend.
It's fucking you.
It is you.
And until you have that conversation,
You can't even develop the awareness that this young man has already developed and say,
hey, this is where I'm weak.
How do I fix this?
Okay.
So, yeah, I give him a ton of credit.
And honestly, it excites me of someone being 24 years old and coming to that.
And having recognition.
Yes.
Having that recognition.
And don't tell us you don't have time because this generation, you have more time available
to you than anything.
It's unbelievable.
You don't know.
Talk to somebody who's a little bit older.
and what we had to do to try and create this time, that's not an issue.
Bro, and also when you're young, dude, this is when you want to develop this skill.
And by the way, if you are 40 or you are 50, it's not too late, all right?
That's not what I'm saying.
But what I am saying is typically when you're younger, you have less obligations, okay?
You probably don't have a big mortgage.
You probably don't have four kids.
You probably don't, you know, have all these things.
the more of those things that you put onto your life,
the harder it is to climb that mountain.
It's no different than a Sherpa climbing up Everest, dude.
The more shit you put on his back,
the harder it is going to be for him.
It doesn't matter how good he is.
You should still do it.
Yeah.
But it's, it's going to be harder.
So, you know, this whole idea that we hear about so often
about young people going out and finding themselves,
bro, listen, man, there is no fucking finding yourself.
That's not a real.
thing. You make a fucking decision about who you're going to be and what you're going to be and
what kind of life you're going to live and you go out there and you fucking build it.
Shit doesn't just fall into you. Nobody just discovered themselves, you know, successful or
great or an amazing athlete or a wealthy entrepreneur. That's not how fuck it works, man. And you guys
have been lied to with this idealistic bullshit about finding yourself. You know what you're going to find?
yourself fucking broke.
That's what the fuck you're going to find
at the end of that journey.
I don't know about,
Dijia don't know about
all right, Andy, I know about
you know, you know, you know, you're following my father.
You go up to them, I said,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
DJ's dad still out
looking for that milk.
You got, hey, listen,
I got to, you know,
I need some time to find myself.
You dad, look at you.
I found you.
You're right here.
Yeah, right here.
That wasn't even a real conversation.
It wasn't, like, I got to go, what are you looking for?
Now, taking an honest assessment about what you're into and who you want to be, that's okay.
Right?
You should do that.
Like, what do you want to do?
And you may not have the right answer, but you probably have a general idea.
You probably understand, like, I don't want to be poor.
You probably understand that you like certain things, okay?
You just kind of have to start going in that direction.
And then as you do, and you're developing these skill sets of being able to adhere to a plan,
aka discipline, grit, fortitude, perseverance, the ability to overcome, endurance, you know,
mental resiliency, physical resiliency.
As you develop these things, you become skilled at following the path.
Okay.
And then that way, when you start to narrow it down and the path starts to become a little more clear,
you have the skills to go down that path and create.
And like, dude, this is, it's completely opposite as to the narrative of what's told of these young people, which is try a little bit of this for three years.
Try a little bit of that for three years.
Try, you do a gap year.
Don't do shit.
Bro, you got to understand, motherfucker.
There is, you are running out of time.
That's a real thing.
You know, oh, I don't like hustle culture because of urgency.
Okay.
Well, then fucking don't listen to it and just go live your life.
This ain't for everybody.
It's not for everybody.
Winning and greatness and building shit.
and becoming who the fuck you're supposed to be.
It's rare.
Winning is not the expectation for everybody.
Okay, building and creating and becoming, that's abnormal.
That's not, greatness is abnormal.
It's not a normal thing.
Okay, like we have this idea that like everybody's going to end up in the same spot.
That's total bullshit, man.
Okay?
And if you want to be great or whatever it is that you do, you're going to have to fucking start now.
That's it, man.
Yeah.
I fucking love it.
dude. I love it, man. Guys, let's get to question number two. Andy Tim, what keeps you motivated
after achieving big goals? I am roughly two weeks out from getting the fruits of my labor for the
last 14 months. I can smell it. But one of my friends asked me the other day, what's next? And at first,
I felt a little disrespectful because I guess I wanted the acknowledgement of the achievement,
but then thinking on it more, I think I understand what he meant.
I'm just not sure what to do next.
So what keeps you motivated after achieving big goals?
Well, first of all, he hasn't achieved this.
He's still two weeks away.
A lot of shit happens in two fucking weeks now.
You celebrating already?
You celebrating already?
You count the confetti?
You're doing all that.
What the fuck are you doing?
Jobs not finished.
That's what are you talking about?
There's been tons of deals at the last minute.
Like, yeah, this ain't happening.
There could be a shift in the world that something happens.
This ain't done yet.
What fruits are your labor?
14 months?
You know how you guarantee you get those fruits?
You set the bar even higher and go after that right now.
And those things will automatically come.
You'll close that gap immediately.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Listen, there always has to be a next.
There always has to be a next.
Always.
Especially for people that have high drive and high ambition.
You know, we're told all the time,
man that like it's unhealthy to to not celebrate in these things but the problem is it's no different
the 75 hard day when people get done with 75 days and then they they literally celebrate
with the things that made them dissatisfied with who they were in the fucking first place
okay let me get a 75 hard cake you know how you fucking celebrate you celebrate by saying okay cool
now i'm going to do this because now i have the opportunity i climbed up those first four
stairs, now I have the opportunity to go the next four.
That's a fucking celebration.
That's worth celebrating.
Hey, here's what I created.
Now we can take it to this level and this level, this level.
That's where the excitement comes from.
Okay.
So like when you talk about motivation, like what keeps you motivated?
It's, it's, it's, it's the idea of constant progression.
All right.
You got to understand, dude, that most people, we've always heard these stories, right?
like about, oh, you know,
the guy went out and built a business
and, you know, he got all this money,
he sold his business and then he fucking killed himself.
Well, he didn't kill himself
because he had all the fucking money, bro.
That's like what people want to believe.
They want to believe that, oh, the dude got the money
and the money fucking made.
No, that's not it.
What happened was he lost his purpose.
He lost his drive.
He lost the next.
That's right.
There's no next.
So instead of raising the bar
and realizing who the fuck you are,
And this is true for most people.
You just don't know it.
Most of us are built for achievement.
Most of us are built for winning.
We're just brainwashed in and thinking that that's not us.
Okay.
And the reason that these dudes go out and kill themselves and become miserable fucks
is because they have not done what we're telling you to do.
They cross the finish line miraculously.
They get a big check.
They get celebrated.
you know, it gets recognized,
and then that becomes the thing, right?
Like, oh, I won the fucking,
I won the MVP in the homecoming game.
And when I was in high school,
nobody cares, man.
Nobody gives a shit, okay?
Oh, I did that.
Nobody cares what you did.
Nobody cares what you did.
And they probably don't care about what you're doing either.
So the reality is,
is you have to learn to set the bar past.
Like right now,
you're 80% of the way there.
Okay?
Like, let's just say you are.
I don't know if you are.
You say you are.
I don't know.
Championship people,
people who become fucking great,
those people are not looking at that first goal anymore at 80%.
They're already fucking,
they've said a new one.
The finish line's already moved.
Yeah.
And that's the thing, dude.
Like,
that's why celebration is such a dangerous thing, man,
because it can become,
it can become,
something that lasts way too long.
And that's why I have a rule, man.
And it's a 24-hour celebration rule, all right?
Like when you see the greatest coaches of all time,
I'm not talking about players.
I'm talking about coaches.
Well, some players are like this too.
You can probably vouch for this.
Celebrate hard.
Don't celebrate long.
Yeah, that's it, man.
That's it.
And, dude, but like the psychopaths,
bro, there is times when Nick Saban has Bill Belichick,
okay, when Bill Belichick was a Patriots.
When Nick, these guys literally walk off the fucking field from winning the biggest thing that you
can win in that sport.
And you know what they're looking at?
They're looking at all the shit they fucked up during the game.
Hey, we got a lot of work to do.
We got to do this.
You know, tonight, you know, the guys are going to go, but we're going to be back in.
Dude, Nick Sable will go back in the office the next day of fucking 4 a.m.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, it's already done.
I remember this.
And like you said, it's in a video.
They had won the national championship.
And he was doing the interview and he goes, what's next?
He goes, I'm six weeks behind of next season already because the recruiting is already
started.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
He goes, I'm six weeks behind.
He goes, I'm six weeks behind.
And coach, aren't you going to celebrate?
He goes, I just did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just, I just did.
All right.
And people are just looking at them like, they don't get it.
They can't comprehend that.
Because you know what?
Everybody has.
the same idea of what a celebration is.
It's supposed to be this month-long or two-month thing
or a whole off season with all this parting and all this thing
and people filling you up with all this bullshit over and over again.
And you get sucked into that.
And then if you go home and tell us, listen, I'm already, I'm here already.
I'm over here.
And then they look at you because what you're doing is they feel like you're,
they want to celebrate your achievement for doing nothing.
So it's not about you.
It's about it's about them.
It's about how they were celebrating.
Yes.
It's how they want to celebrate.
It's like they want to celebrate.
It's just like, all right, when you go, if you just, you just talked about, you know, alcohol and drinking.
All right.
If you're a regular, consistent drinker, all right, and then one day you go out with your friend and say, I'm not drink a day, what's wrong?
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
It was like, I'm not telling you guys not to drink.
Drink whatever fuck you want.
Yeah.
I just decide not.
And they look at you like you're beautiful, you know.
Yeah.
And it's a reflection.
It's a reflection on them.
It's got nothing to do.
And it goes back to that discipline from answer the first question that you said,
holy fuck, he, he's got the discipline or she has a discipline to sit here with all of us.
Well, we're drinking.
We're doing all this stuff.
And they're not.
Yeah, man.
I'm like, man, I wish I wish I, I wish I had that.
So instead of saying they wish they had that, they start to attack you.
And instead they're not attacking you, they're attacking you.
attacking themselves. They're attacking what they lack in themselves because you have something or
develop something, as Andrew would say, that they haven't developed. Well, dude, think about this too,
man. Okay. Let's just say, hypothetically, let's say Bill Belichick won one Super Bowl. Let's say
Nick Saban won one national title. For most people, that's what they hang their hat on for their
entire life. And while that is a pinnacle achievement, there will come a time where people
stop fucking talking about it. And what we're talking about on this show always is greatness.
We're not talking about winning once. We're talking about greatness. And if you want people to
care about your greatness, winning one time is not enough for that. You have to cross the line
from good to great to iconic.
And the way that you get there is by winning so undeniably consistently long that eventually
when you do, like Nick Saban now as a commentator, when Nick Saban walks in the motherfucking
room, there is no, it's not, oh, Nick won this championship and that championship.
They just look at him and they say, that's the fucking greatest motherfucker ever.
It's fucking Nick Saban.
Okay, that's fucking Nick Saban.
And that's the recognition that y'all want from winning once, but it doesn't come from winning once.
It comes from a lifetime of winning.
And that's what you have to understand.
So if you truly want to be, because like, dude, that's a real thing.
Okay.
Some people, the recognition is very important to them.
Some people don't give a shit.
Some people just play for the game.
That's how I am.
I don't give a fuck about who.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
And it's hard for people to understand that that's real because this.
They care.
Right.
But there is people, one of the six human needs is significance.
They want the recognition.
They want those things.
That's a big driver for a lot of people.
Well, if that's really a driver for you, you have to understand that what you're seeking will not come from winning one time.
It will not come from that.
It will come from a lifetime of winning to the point where, you know, Nick Saban is 70 years old.
And he's considered, he's for, Nick Saban could disappear.
and never say another word in public, never, and he's going to be considered one of the greatest
that ever did it.
I don't know.
Period.
Okay, John Wooden, same thing.
The guy wins, you know, what was it?
Nine out of 11 years in a row.
He wins a national title.
That's the level of winning.
It takes decades, bro, to create the level of recognition that significant seeking people are actually
looking for from winning once.
and that's a big disparity.
You have to commit yourself.
And the only way to get to that,
because, you know, this guy said,
oh, well, I was a little bit offended,
but I kind of understand what he was trying to say.
Well, that tells me that recognition is important to you.
Okay.
It's probably also your first win.
Okay.
Okay.
But dude, that's where most people fuck it up.
He hasn't gotten his first win yet.
That's right.
That's what I'm trying to, he's looking for recognition.
And he hasn't even gotten it yet.
He hasn't even gotten it yet.
Yeah. You know, comment back in two weeks and show us proof that this actually, that this actually happened.
Don't create something with fucking AI.
Show us that this actually happened because there's somebody in this office that's going to call and find out if we can actually verify this thing or not.
I mean, dude, how many times we've seen this in sports, bro?
The guy, he's wide open, he's running in the field.
He starts to celebrate and he's throwing the ball.
He's got the ball hanging out and some dude wax it away.
That's it.
Okay.
Like that can happen.
That happens all the fucking time.
Okay.
In life, it happens way more than it does in sports, especially in business.
My recommendation is for you to be real with yourself about what it is you're doing
this for and why you're doing it.
I'm not here to judge why you're doing it.
Certain people do things for impact.
Certain people do things for their own benefits.
Certain people do things for recognition.
Whatever it is.
The ultimate reality of all of that is that a lot of good comes from winning.
So we're not here to judge the moral positioning of why you're trying to win.
I don't give a fuck, okay?
I know why I want to win and why you want to win might be different.
Winning, winning runs the world, bro.
Okay?
Like, winning runs the world.
That's the thing that you have to understand.
And for you, as someone who is seeking significance and recognition, to get the
level of recognition that you are seeking, you are going to have to win for a long fucking
time.
Yeah.
Okay.
A long time.
A long time.
We're not talking one win.
We're not talking two wins.
Okay.
I had a quote go viral the other day.
It's like, like nobody gets lucky for 27 fucking years in a row, bro.
Okay.
Like I win, motherfucker.
Like, I'm a fucking winner.
Like, if you have me as an enemy, you should probably pick a different one.
Just quit.
Yeah.
Just go pick someone else, okay?
Learn from me, model me, this, that, the other.
You try to compete with me.
I'm going to run you the fuck over, dude.
And they want to know, listen, people can look at what he just says as arrogance.
Oh, yeah.
It's confidence.
All right.
And then you know what?
It's only arrogance when you haven't proven it.
Right.
And here's a thing.
Here's a thing.
You know what?
You know what?
winning is a drug dealer for confidence.
The more you win, the more confident you are.
Dude, and not only that, see, I understand what I'm prepared to do.
Yeah.
Like, I know, like, okay, if I'm going to take a big L, let's just say I take a big fucking
L.
Let's say all my companies implode and fucking, it doesn't matter because I'm going to fucking
go back to where I was with the knowledge that I have and I'm going to keep going.
And so while you may think in your mind that you're,
beating me today, I can promise you that unless you are fully committed to go your entire life,
I'm going to fucking end up ahead of you.
And that's just reality, dude.
And that's not for everybody.
Not everybody's like that.
It's perfectly okay to build something and go through a different season of life and this
and that.
But like, you have to understand, dude, the fucking psychopaths that get the recognition that you're
fucking after, these motherfuckers are wired for one thing.
Okay.
They might not be the best dad.
They may not be the best fucking family guy.
They may not be the nicest person.
I don't fucking know.
It could be all kinds of different things.
But that level of recognition comes from a psychopathic commitment to doing whatever
the fuck you've got to do.
And yes, you should do it with class.
You should do it with a set of moral standards.
You should do it the right way.
You should treat people good.
All of these things matter.
But my point is that true.
Recognition for being great does not come from one win.
And if you're driven by recognition, you should be the kind of person that you have to be
the kind of person that is consistently setting the bar higher and higher and higher.
Let me ask you guys this real quick on this.
We were talking about this the other day in the locker room.
Is winning relative?
What do you mean?
Like, is it like, you know, a win for me is a win for me.
It may not be considered.
Oh, no, dude.
Yeah.
You were just talking about it.
Yeah.
Yeah, sometimes like, dude, like, I forget that sometimes.
Yeah.
Like sometimes, like people will tell me their wins.
And I'm like, the fuck you talking about?
Like, that's easy for me.
Yeah.
And we have to understand that that probably wasn't easy for me for them when I first started.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you do lose sight of that sometimes as you go down the path.
I'm guilty of that for sure.
Like I sometimes I have people tell me things that were a big win to them.
And I'm like, I have to remind myself like, bro, this is, this is you 20 years ago.
This is you fucking 25 years ago.
So yes, the wins are relative.
And they teach you, like Tim said, the confidence a little bit at a time.
What was a win for me fucking 20 years ago is something that now, like I, it's like, I don't even, it like doesn't even.
Yeah.
It might even be considered a loss at this point.
Well, no, I'm just saying like the, look, man, I'm talking about.
the mental overcoming, okay?
Like, like, dude, I just give you an example.
Like, like, I used to have no control over my food.
None.
None.
Okay.
None.
Like, when I look at, like, when I say, hey, man, fuck that shit.
That's the attitude that I had to develop to get past it.
Okay.
If I walked, like, if people invited me to dinner, like, dude, you know me.
You've been to dinner with me 4,000 times.
I order the same fucking thing everywhere I go.
Okay.
I order clean food.
I don't even think about it.
Like I don't look at the rest of the menu.
Back when I first started that, you know, I'd open up the menu and then I automatically start
like justifying.
Oh, I want the I wanted the nachos and I want this.
You know what?
I'll start tomorrow.
And like the brain automatically started the lie.
Now it doesn't even, it's not even a thought.
So this is the benefit of developing.
this discipline muscle that we're talking about.
And so yeah, dude, the first time that I went into a restaurant and I ordered what the
fuck I was supposed to order versus what I wanted to, I walked out of that restaurant being like,
fuck, dude, I can't believe I did that.
It's a fucking win.
Yeah, that's a huge win.
That's a huge win.
So sometimes reality, these things that seem like they're not a big deal are really
setting the foundation for you to be able to make the decisions that are a big deal.
And so you can't discount someone else's small wins against, you know, your scale of winning.
Like I said, and sometimes I forget that, right?
Because like, dude, I know what it's like, bro.
Like, I know what it's like.
I know what it's like.
And I know what people are capable of.
I know who I am.
I know how regular I am.
I know how not gifted I am.
And when I look at someone, like I understand because I'm.
seeing myself. Yeah. Right. So like when people hear me and they're like, man, he's really
fucking hard on people and this and that. No, dude. I'm just telling you the truth about yourself
because I've been there and I understand. Like, and you could sit there and say, but Andy,
no dude, there's no buts. You are capable. You are far more capable of what you think you are.
You just haven't been able to overcome the small little decisions that start to build this up.
And again, this is, I'm not trying to make this a pitch for 75 hard, but this is why the program exists.
Because it teaches you how to do these things in 75 fucking days.
Okay.
And then once you, like, there's no program that's ever been developed or will ever be developed that can create that kind of progress and that short of amount of time mentally.
You can't learn that shit any other way.
So, you know, what we're talking about here is,
a few different things. The recognition that this is something that you can build, the understanding
of who you are, and what honestly motivates you. Okay. Like, what are you actually after? And it can't be
what you, it can't be what you think everybody wants you to say. Like, it's got to be the real shit.
What do you really want? I know some very successful people that are, they are, how, you,
driven by recognition.
I think the shit's stupid.
I'm like,
but that's what drives them.
And because that drives them,
they make the right decisions.
And then those right decisions compound
and that creates a life
that ultimately inspires people
to go after the same thing.
So like if we're being real,
you know, this moral posturing about why,
why do you this?
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
What matters is,
is that the outcome happens because the outcome is what inspires other people to understand
that it's possible, which is ultimately what I believe our duty is as humans.
We are writing a story of inspiration with our own existence.
And you can preach it, you can talk it, you can go on stage, you can show slides, you can do all
this shit.
But at the end of the day, none of that shit matters if the outcome's not real.
So like, you know, like a lot of people are like, I want to be a professional speaker.
Okay.
Well, you understand that you can talk all that shit you want, bro.
But that's a temporary thing that you say, oh, I really want to help people.
Well, unless you've created the outcome for them to see in that life of yours that they want,
that fucking little blurb that you don't care how good you are at saying it.
That's temporary.
It's temporary.
So you have to be able to understand that like,
Dude, we're the artists and we have this canvas.
And our job is to paint what the fuck we can
in a certain amount of time.
And time is running out.
So are you going to draw what everybody else drew
just because it's easy and it's comfortable?
Are you going to be honest with yourself
and say, this is what I actually want?
This is who I actually want to be.
This is the outcome I actually want to create.
And this is what drives me to create that outcome.
And then understand what's going to do that.
for you and then be able to go do it.
Yeah.
I love it, man.
I think where he gets frustrated and when you talk about the wins is you're not frustrated
with the win, you want to know what's next.
Yeah.
That's the, that's a frustrating.
That's the frustration.
Great.
You had this right.
But if you talk about, man, I just got this win.
And now I'm about to, you'd be like, yeah.
Yes.
It's just when they stop, right, you're like, okay, you just stop.
It's like when people tell you.
It's because I know they're going to go backwards.
Right.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's like people always talk.
about their hopes and dreams. I was like, dude, I want to hear about your hopes and dreams.
I want to hear about your decisions and actions. That's the next conversation.
Yeah. You know, my hope, you know, hope is not a strategy. You know, my dream, listen,
first of all, for your dream to become a reality, it's got to be a nightmare first. You got to go through
the nightmare. Fuck yeah. You got to go, you got to go, you got to go through the night nightmare.
You know, in the book winning, I talked about, hey, listen, you know, your, your nightmares,
They're the ones that come visit you on a regular basis.
They're the ones that keep you up late at night.
They're the ones that take away from time from your family and all this, all the things.
Because you have this, you have this, you have this vision.
You have this nightmare going on in your head.
And I said, I got, I got to figure, I got to figure this out.
And most people, they turn around and put the fucking pillow over their head or take something
to like make it go when you wake up.
You're not in the, I only even say you're in the, I only even say you're in the,
same position, you're actually in a worse position because that day is not gone.
And the next day is going to be gone and the next day is going to be gone and the next day
is going to be gone. And like you said, a Monday turns into a Monday and turns into a Monday.
And you have fit, you have what, you have 52 Mondays in a year. All right. That's not a lot.
No, man. It's our, it's literally going to be, we're already, this year is already almost
half done. Yeah. It's literally, it's literally all half done. Look at, you look at, how old are
your brother's kids now?
Nine.
Nine.
Yeah.
Six.
Nine.
Seven.
I remember like,
yeah.
And you look and people like, what,
you look at me like,
what happened?
That's how quick this goes by.
Like, what happened?
Yeah.
And that's a perspective that you can't have
until enough times past.
Right.
And so like it's very important.
I think one of the biggest lies when it comes to winning is that like there's a finish line.
There's not a fucking finish line.
finish line, bro. There's things along the way that happen that are great. But the minute you get to
the finish line, remember, it doesn't matter you sold your business. You won the trophy. You won the
championship. Whatever it is, man, the minute that the finish line is crossed and you decide that that's
the finish line, you're going to have to deal with a couple different things. One, are you okay with that?
Is that are you good with what you accomplish?
Because if you're not, then it's going to eat you forever.
Okay.
It ain't going to be shit you can do about it.
No, without start, you got to start again.
And it's really hard to get started again once you've stopped.
All right.
If you get to a point, and like I said, there's seasons in life, right?
There's times where, you know, like I know guys who have built companies and then they've sold them and then they've turned their focus into something else.
but that's something else is also a new thing to master.
Right?
Like I've got a buddy of mine who, well,
FACC does this.
The, the,
okay,
he retires as the greatest player of all time.
Well,
now he's figured out,
I'm going to compete in fishing.
I'm going to compete in NASCAR.
Okay.
And those that,
so like now he's working to do this other thing,
right?
And if we don't have that next thing,
you have to understand that your story is over and you have to be okay with that that part is closed
and i think a lot of people they mistakenly think that they're going to get to a number or they're
going to get to a uh it's usually a number but a point where that itch is scratched but if you're
truly built for the game that it's that itch is never fucking scratched dude and the minute you try to
fit into the boundary of everybody else just kind of cruising you're going to self-destruct whether you
You like them or not.
Look at Elon.
Yeah.
You like them or not.
Yeah.
If it's not a political thing, all right.
Band doesn't have to do anything ever again.
No.
And he's constantly.
Still going.
Keep going.
Keep going.
But you got to know yourself, dude.
Like, that's the thing.
It's like you've got to know yourself, man.
You know, there's a number of days.
Like, this happens to me all the time, man.
Like, I go home.
And I'm like, what the fuck am I doing all this for?
Like, especially on the hard days.
I'm like, why am I fucking doing it?
I don't have to fucking do this.
Everybody has doubt.
Everybody at some point has that doubt.
At all points, at all levels.
At all levels, exactly.
That you question yourself.
But you know what?
When you question yourself, you have the fucking answer.
Yeah.
You have the answer from everything that you've built all the way.
You look at what would be like,
if I didn't do it and what if it looks like if I keep going and you're like, yeah, this is not
even an option.
But that conversation is short.
But we've all had that conversation on a regular basis.
And people think we don't.
We don't have, we have those conversations all the fucking time.
Dude.
And the answer is, it goes like this.
Okay.
I understand this is frustrating.
This is hard.
Let's say you did stop.
What are you going to do?
And if you can't answer that question about what are you going to do, you shouldn't stop.
Because that's where you self-destruct.
Yeah.
You know, I've seen so many entrepreneurs, you know, fuck athletes too, dude.
Like get to a point where they feel like, okay, I've done what I can do.
But again, the recognition that they're after and what they're after or the impact they're after hasn't truly materialized yet.
And then they stop.
They take a break.
And then if you want to start again, it's like just as hard as starting from the beginning.
So you have to like know yourself and you have to know what it is you want if you are going to pivot into that next thing.
For a lot of people, you know, the pivoting into that next thing comes too early.
Okay.
You haven't really won yet.
You haven't.
You did a couple things good.
Okay.
You made a couple bucks.
You did a couple things.
You sell your shit, you get out, whatever.
And you think that you're going to go, like, sit on a beach, bro.
And I'm going to tell you, you're going to like that for about three fucking days.
And actually, you're probably going to like it for about one day.
Because the second day, you're going to be like, oh, okay.
What am I going to do next?
You know, and like, and then the third day, you're like, I'm not doing anything.
This sucks.
Like, and, you know, this, if you're already in a point, and it doesn't matter what level you're at, dude.
If you're already at a point where you're thinking about your life as what can I achieve,
what can I do, what can I build, what can I create, you've got the bug, bro.
You're built different than everybody else.
Most people that thought never even goes into their mind.
They live like everybody else.
They do what everybody else does.
They measure their standards of success the same way that everybody else does.
And they never reel with themselves about what they really want.
And because that happens, they end up living a life that at the end of it,
They're like, well, I didn't do anything.
Well, the guy who's unaware, and this is why awareness is a really,
it's a, it's a plus and a minus sometimes.
But when you have the awareness and you don't exercise your capabilities,
it will destroy you.
When you don't have the awareness and you live in ignorance,
which is fucking okay, that's why the saying exists, ignorance is bliss.
Those people can live their whole lives.
And at the end of it, they don't even like question.
They say, oh, my life was great.
He lived a great life.
That's right.
That's right.
But if you're not wired for that, dude, you're going to be the guy at the end of your life saying,
fuck, I fucking didn't do anything I wanted to do.
So, like, you got to really be honest with yourself, man.
And if you're already asking the question, that means you got it.
Right?
Because most people never ask it.
Everything's impossible until somebody does it first.
Yeah, man.
It's real, man.
I love it.
Guys, you got one more?
Yeah.
Third and final question.
question, guys. Question number three. Andy, I had this realization recently that I spend a lot of
time talking about the person I want to become, but my daily habits still look a lot like
the old version of me. And that gap between who I say I want to be and how I actually live
is starting to bother me. Was there a moment for you where you realized you had to completely
change your identity and not just your habits? Yeah. It's what I just said.
It's when you become aware of it.
The minute you become aware that you aren't living and you aren't becoming and you aren't creating
who you want to be and what you want to do and you do nothing about it, that is the first day
of the rest of your life of a miserable, bitter, unfulfilling, frustrating hell that you will
try to escape or convince yourself that you, you know, should.
should be this other way.
So like the minute
that you become aware of this,
you have to go, dude.
You have to go.
Because now you could see
shit you couldn't see.
So for me,
you know,
there's been a couple different moments.
I could tell you
the most pivotal moment for me.
You know, when I grew up,
I always wanted to be successful.
I didn't want to depend on anybody.
I knew
inherently, I felt it my whole life, that I was supposed to do something different.
I could feel it, even when I was a little kid.
When I got to be 36 years old, I was already worth, you know, nine figures.
I had built what most people would say, like we talked about earlier.
I had a one.
You did pretty good.
Okay.
Right.
Right.
Except I was looking in the mirror and I was three.
350 pounds and I realized that if I did not change who I was, the best thing that I would have
ever achieved in my life was making a few dollars. And I was 36 years old. And I started seeing
myself, okay, well, where are I going to be at 46? Well, I'm going to be 450 pounds. And then I was
like, well, where am I going to be at 50? And I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm going to be dead.
Yeah, those people don't last long. Right. So,
So for me, I realized that.
And then I also realized that it wasn't fair to all the people that it helped me, believed in me, who had bet on me with their careers, that this was just about me.
And I knew that I had to fix my shit.
I knew I had to transform and become the best I could because, dude, I was honest with myself.
I knew that I wasn't good.
I'm not good enough to compete.
I'm not good enough to compete.
That's what you guys got to understand.
I'm not good enough to compete unless I'm the best that I can be.
There's other people that are smarter than me.
There's other people that are more gifted than me.
There's other people that have better relationships than me.
There's all these things.
I'm aware of this.
Okay?
But the one thing that I can control is how fucking hard I go
and how well I control the things
that are within my control.
And I am willing to bet
that there are very few people
on this motherfucking planet
that are more in control of those things than I am.
And that's when I say,
like, hey, you might be beating me today,
but this is temporary.
You should enjoy it today
because eventually I'm going to pass you
because I understand who I am now.
And I understand that I can control
all of the controllables in my life
at this point in time
without really even thinking about it.
And that's what happens when you create tremendous discipline muscle, okay?
It gives you a superpower because every single time it gets hard or even somebody who's conditioned for hard things,
there will be a point that fucking breaks them.
And I am unbreakable, bro.
I am unfucking breakable at this point in my life.
So I know.
I'm going to stop you right there.
The key point in what he just said at this point in this life,
because in order to be unbreakable,
you have to be broken so many fucking times.
That's right. That's right.
You've been broken so many times
where they cannot break you anymore.
Yeah, dude, and that's just real shit.
And there's going to be more hard times that come my way.
There's going to be, dude, I could get sick, I could get injured,
I'm going to have people close to me that are probably going to fucking die.
I understand these things.
I understand that that's going to happen.
And I'm at that age where.
people I know contacts I have in my phone people I know personally people I've done business with
are starting to pass yeah and and dude and but you're a realist about it yeah okay like you
if you can build yourself into that which you can all of you can there's nothing that can
stop you, dude. Like there's nothing that can stop someone who has built themselves into somebody
that cannot be broken. You can't stop them. You can't stop them. It doesn't matter what storm
comes their way. It doesn't matter what tragedy comes their way. It doesn't matter what hardship
comes their way. They will continue to wake up and they will do what they can. They will control
what they can and eventually they will overcome. And that should be the goal for every single person
listening. You have to become the kind of person that it does not fucking matter what is happening
in your life. It doesn't matter. You are still going to keep pushing. You are still going to wake up.
And when you become that, that person is unbeatable because everybody else, and this is especially
relevant to these, like a lot of times when you're young, you look around, I did this too.
you look around and you're like man that guy's fucking parents invested in his business you know
that guy got lucky here he had this happen or that happened you know what the biggest blessing
for me has been in my entire life nothing came easy nothing not having any of that nothing
came easy okay and that taught me more than anything else so if you're out there and you're
struggling and you're looking around you're like but that guy has this and that that's temporary
because that motherfucker that had that good thing happen to him that you didn't,
when that first storm comes in his life, it's going to fucking wreck them.
You're learning how to overcome these things now.
And when you can become this kind of person that is mentally prepared to handle whatever
the fuck is thrown their way, I'm not saying you're going to do it with a smile.
I'm not saying that you're not going to go home and cry.
I'm not saying that you're not going to have a breakdown.
But when you're done, you're going to get the fuck up and you're going to keep moving.
If you can become that kind of person, dude, you can't beat that kind of person.
You just can't do it.
Yeah.
So this person here, it goes back to what you had said earlier.
And I say this all the time to we lie to ourselves more than anybody else would ever lie.
So the talk that he's having, he's literally lying to himself.
And when he talks about the self-talk, it's not a self-talk.
It's negotiations.
He's losing the negotiations with himself every single day or the most of the time.
And you just have to be like, I'm not, I'm not, no more negotiations, no more negotiations
with myself, with myself.
Are they still going to be chirping?
Yeah, they're still going to be chirping.
They're still going to be talking and said, it ain't happening.
See, dude, I give that, I give that person a name.
Okay.
I identify that voice.
I use it for you guys.
I call it the bitch voice and the boss voice.
If you've read my book and you've listened to the podcast
when it comes to 75 hard,
we talk about the bitch voice and the boss voice.
I name that person.
I know who that is.
That's fat Andy.
Okay.
Fucking fat Andy.
That's who's fucking talking to me.
And when I can name that person,
then I can look at that person and be like,
fuck you, you fat piece of shit.
I'm talking to myself.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
But when I can like name it
and I know who's talking to me,
it's real easy for me to be like,
no, fuck you, dude.
Like, I'm not fucking doing that.
It's when we don't,
when we have trouble identifying
this weak person inside of us.
Give it a name, dude.
Who is it?
What's that person's name?
Oh, that's fat DJ.
Oh, fat DJ is telling me to fucking skip my workout.
I say, fuck you.
Right.
Okay, fat DJs.
He tried.
He tried today.
I'm telling you, dude.
Yeah, but he didn't.
He fucking didn't.
And that's what the fuck matters.
Yeah, man.
Okay.
Give it a name.
What is that?
Oh, that's weak Susie.
Oh, well, fuck you, weak Susie.
Right.
Oh, that's pussy.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, fuck you, pussy.
Like, whatever you got to do.
But like, dude, it's eat, like, you got to learn some fuck you, man.
Yeah, man.
And like, dude, you know, maybe there's another way to do it.
That's how I fucking do it.
You know, but, like, I know that that fat Andy is,
me he's fucking in me dude and he's whispering all the fucking die all the time all right listen
there when you roll out of bed there's all those listen there's there's everything that's wait
there's comfort waiting for you there's negotiations way there's negotiations there's
lazy there's all all there's victim there's all that stuff there way they're they're literally
waiting at the bed bed bed side for you and i get up every morning acknowledge him hello hello hello
just fucking keep going yeah dude how you guys sleep that's them great all right all right
And I think that's, I think it's important to understand that never goes away.
It never goes away.
It's what you feed.
It's like that saying there's, there's the, like, there's the fucking white wolf and there's
the dark wolf and whichever one you feed more, whatever to fuck the saying goes.
But there's truth to that.
Okay.
Like, dude, there is, there is fucking fat Andy.
And then there is unbreakable Andy.
I answer to unbreakable, ain't.
I don't answer to fucking fat Andy anymore.
Fat Andy fucking cost me decades of my fucking life.
Fat Andy cost me tons of pain and tons of frustration
and tons of years that I can't get back.
I fucking hate that motherfucker.
I fucking hate him.
And the minute he starts talking to me,
I automatically go to fuck you, dude.
Fuck you.
And fat Andy is going to keep talking, keep talking.
What do you got the strong?
What do you call the other one?
Unbreakable.
And he's just waiting.
Yeah.
Be doing this or not?
Yeah.
I'm not having a.
conversation with you. You already know. You already know. We're doing this or not.
All right. And if you're not, I'm still going to go do this. And then you're going to feel so,
you're going to feel so guilty because you, because you fucking didn't. And it's going to hurt you
over and over and over again. You don't win, you don't win them all, bro. No, no, no, no.
If I'm, if I was sitting here, because this is, this is a game of averages, okay,
do you want to win that you want unbreakable Andy to win 90,
99% of the time.
There are going to be times
where that weak version of you
does fucking win.
And like you're talking about Tim,
it's going to create so much shame
and so much regret
that that even creates more fuck you.
Like, oh, you fucking got me, motherfucker.
That's never happened again, right?
Like, and you, you,
that to me
has been the biggest difference for me
is to be able to become aware
of these two versions of myself
and learn to obey one
and to ignore the other.
And it's not simply ignoring it.
It's like an anger towards it.
It's a fucking,
it's a fury towards it.
It's people,
oh,
why are you so intense?
Because,
dude,
I hate that motherfucker because of what it's cost me.
Okay?
And oh,
well,
you hate yourself?
Yeah,
that part of myself,
I do fucking hate.
And that's okay.
Because the result
of that is so fucking good
that it's worth having a little bit of that.
And honestly, I think that if you don't have a little bit of that,
you're kind of fucked.
That's my...
All your lines are yourself.
Now, listen, I've lived my whole life being me.
Okay?
Now, maybe there's other people that don't have that.
But I actually think that most of the people that come out
and they put on a pretty smile
and they act like everything's positive.
And you know this too, bro.
You get them in fucking private
it and you get them to tell the truth, they fucking have it too.
They just don't fucking show it in the public.
They have it.
Okay.
And I would,
I would cultivate that and I would lean into that.
And I would identify that because then it helps you not just be aware of your bitch voice
and your boss voice,
but it's an actual person living inside you that is trying to fuck your life up.
What would you do to someone who was coming in front of you every day and was trying
gets you to do all the wrong shit all the time.
You'd be like, dude, get the fuck away from me.
Yeah, fuck off.
Right.
Like, that's how I treat that version of myself.
And that version of myself has gotten quieter and quieter and quieter and weaker and weaker
as I obey the unbreakable part of myself.
But it's never going away.
No, it doesn't.
And if I start to fucking give into it, you know, one day and then two days and then three
days, that weak version of yourself gets much stronger, much quicker.
Yes.
than the strong version of yourself.
So you got to understand it's not equal playing field.
Okay.
You give that weak motherfucker a few decisions.
All of a sudden, bro,
he's got some fucking strength back.
He doesn't need a lot.
You know,
this guy over here,
he needs a lot.
He needs a lot.
The strong guy needs a lot of investment.
The weak guy,
he only needs two or three days,
bro,
to fucking grip your ass right out of it.
Fuck, man.
Okay?
That's so real.
It is.
Bro.
It's like,
come on Andy,
man.
Like, dude,
we've been working for it.
Bro, we've been on one year fucking street.
We take one night off, bro, come on me.
And you know what?
Sometimes I do.
Yeah.
But that's your choice.
But I'm going to say, I've seen 100%.
That's your choice.
It becomes a choice as opposed to an order that you're obeying.
Yeah.
And even that one day, it is not, it's not over the top.
It's just, it's just, I've been a six year.
I've seen it.
Yeah.
I've seen it.
Yeah.
It used to be over the top.
No, it's no longer.
All right, I'm cool.
Like you said, a beer or whatever it is.
I'm good.
You start to recognize the slippage really quick.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think one of the biggest things to recognize here is that when you're kind of just starting to identify these things and build them up, it's hard for you to recognize the backwards slips.
You're not understanding how fast it can get out of control.
Well, if you look at a place, you look at her.
The one thing I always marvel, every time I come, I come here to headquarters.
is how spotless this place is.
Just every single room, every single corner, it is spotless.
So you see some dirt on the floor.
It's easy to identify.
It's easy to identify, all right?
If you place inside of you, your mindset, whatever,
is totally dirty all the time.
It's very hard to find what you're looking,
what you're looking for.
And that's what you see something.
It just takes a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
You let one thing slip here.
You let one thing slip here.
Then another thing slips.
It's, there's no negotiation.
This is what we do.
This is how places are going to be run.
I was looking at the sign in your weight room.
First day, 30 day suspension.
Second, you're terminated.
That's it.
Yeah.
That's it, man.
That's it.
Those are the standards.
That's it.
And there's no negotiations.
There's no nothing.
and here are the 10 steps.
This is what I want you to do.
There's no exceptions here.
Here it is.
And if you don't do it, these are the consequences.
If you continue to do it, these are the rewards.
That's it.
Dude, and also I think it's important to recognize that the more you obey the boss
version of you, okay, when you talk about changing your identity, all right,
that first little victory is not going to change your identity, all right?
the identity changes after you've overcome test after test after test after test over a period of time.
And then it becomes your identity, which becomes the standard.
Okay.
And when your standard resets, you are far less likely to move back to who you used to be.
So when you say, when did you have to or did you have to, you know, completely change your identity?
I made the decision that I was going to change my identity.
But my identity didn't actually change until I had created a track record to where I could be like,
all right, I am who the fuck I think I am with the caveat of understanding that I could very easily be that person that I used to hate very quickly.
All right.
So yes, you can change who the fuck you are today.
in your brain.
But it's going to be a fragile decision, okay?
What you live in currently, no matter if it's good or bad,
was created by a past version of you, all right?
That version of you literally created the outcome
that you live in today.
And that is why your identity, if you're not doing well,
feels like, well, my identity is like losing, all right?
When you make that decision,
and you say, this is enough.
Yes, you are technically no longer who the fuck you were,
but that hasn't cemented yet.
That hasn't become like as permanent as we want it to be.
It's never fully permanent, okay?
The strongest foundation can still be fucking cracked.
But as you go down the path,
it becomes stronger and stronger and stronger.
And eventually you say something like I just said,
where like I'm fucking unbreakable, dude.
I'm fucking unbreakable.
I don't give a shit what the fuck happens.
And I'm sure there's going to be tests that come my way that are going to challenge that.
I know there are because that's what life is.
I've had it happen to me over and over and over again.
But I've done enough and I've pushed through enough of those to know who the fuck I really am.
Okay.
And you have to be able to invest in that identity, not just say this is who I am.
Okay. That's the biggest difference. But I'm going to tell you something, dude. You're aware of this now. This person is, you're aware of this. If you don't go, the rest of your life is going to fucking suck. The minute that light bulb turns on and you're like, oh, man, I'm not living to what I should be. I'm not who I should be. I'm not this. Oh, I like to have this or that. That's awareness creeping into you. And that's a great thing. But it's a terrible thing if you're not willing to fucking into it and build something around it.
it because you will fucking suffer your entire life.
And that is very important for you to understand.
Once you become aware of what it is you're supposed to be and you do not pursue that,
you are at the beginning of however many years you have left on this planet of living hell.
For real.
And that's a very important thing for you to understand.
You don't have a fucking choice, dude.
For whatever reason, God shined a light on you and said, this is what you could be.
Even if it was a fleeting thought.
Even if it was something that just like,
and there's nothing you can do about it, bro.
You already seen it.
So now you can't unsee it.
That's right.
You know?
That's right.
DJ, how much weight have you lost?
In total, I'm at like 105 right now.
105.
All right, you lost 105 pounds.
You basically lost a person.
All right.
Everything now that the weight is off
is better for you to do.
Oh, 100%.
Everything.
everything well yeah everything yeah everything shopping fucking nighttime you know what I'm saying
everything everything yeah yeah bro it's it's it's it's it's it's it's worth it that that's
that's all but it's it's about some new clothes that's about it you know I'm saying it's
what Tim's saying is like there's it's not like there's not a reward here right right
right like right right the progress that you make is
is the reward.
It's not a finish line.
It's not a fucking number.
It's not a check.
It's not a trophy.
It's who the fuck you are, bro.
That's the reward.
The reward is knowing who the fuck you are
and being proud of who you are
because you have the awareness of what you could become
and you chose to become it.
That's the fucking reward, man.
And eventually, you know what?
You're gonna make money.
You know what's gonna happen to?
You're gonna lose money, okay?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You're going to go through the ups and downs and this and that.
That's not the dictation of your greatness, dude.
Your personal greatness comes from your ability to get the fuck up and keep moving.
And in the real world, when we talk about competing,
that's why it makes you such a formidable competitor.
Because while other people stop and celebrate or other people break down when the storm comes,
you don't.
And when you're that person, you cannot be beat.
You cannot be caught.
People can't make up ground.
on you and once you get ahead and you will because everybody else will naturally quit or fall off
or stop moving you get so far ahead to where it becomes the ground cannot be made up yeah you know if you just
if you're just aware of your surroundings and where the people you're around everybody looks for
individuals who are really successful to inspire them and so forth sometimes you just need to look at
my said I'm fucking losing to that like seriously I'm
I'm losing to that.
You look at it.
I'm literally lose.
That's what I'm fucking losing.
I'm losing to a fucking bucket of beers.
Yeah.
I'm losing to a pizza.
I'm losing to that fucking shitty version of myself that I see in the mirror.
I'm losing to that dude.
Yeah.
I'm losing to that.
Are you fucking,
bro, come on.
We're all better than that.
Every single one of you listening.
We're all better than that.
You just have to look at it the right way, man.
And like what you're describing,
and this is why I resonate so well with like,
with relentless and winning and everything that you're about, Tim,
is because ultimately that's the message.
You are losing to your fucking self.
You're not losing to other people.
Are you in a competition with other people?
Yeah, probably.
If you're in a business, absolutely.
If you're an athlete, absolutely.
You're losing them too.
Yes, but the reason that you are losing to them is because you're losing to yourself first.
Yep.
And that's the responsibility part.
That's the accountability part.
And you ask when I change, I changed when I made my wife take a picture of me.
And actually, I can tell you exactly when I change.
I could tell you fucking exactly.
I was on a fucking private jet.
And the dude asked me if I needed a seatbelt extender.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
It's fucking.
I got so fucking pissed off, dude.
Like, I wanted to fucking kill the...
Did you need one?
No, I didn't.
The fact that he thought I did,
dude, it made me so angry.
And for like 10 minutes,
this was at the beginning of the flight, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, of course.
So for like the first 10 minutes of the fucking flight,
I was like, I'm gonna fucking choke this motherfucker
the next time he walks by.
And then, you know, he went up in the cockpit,
pit, you know, and work as a private flight.
And I'm looking at Emily and I'm like, I can't fucking believe that motherfucker.
And I started to get embarrassed about what I was saying.
I started to get like, dude, it's not his fault.
You're fucking fast.
He knew you.
He knew.
He knew he was right.
I knew he was right.
And by the time I had landed on that flight, I had made up my mind.
Yeah.
And it was no fucking option.
So we were, I don't know, we were doing, we had to, we had an engagement.
at some island.
I can't remember where, I can't remember where it was.
Wasn't Epstein.
How about saying?
You get pretty careful with that, Tim.
One island, Tim.
No, it was one of the, it was, it was a prop plane.
And they were taking everybody's, they asked everybody
how much you weigh and they had everybody step on a scale and so forth.
Cause there was a lot of big people.
Yeah.
And they had to distribute, like you can't sit, like if you were traveling with somebody,
you can't sit here, you got it.
Oh my God.
trying to even out the plane.
They're trying to even out.
They're trying to even out the plane.
Oh, man.
And they look to share myself.
They said, you know, you guys just come on.
We don't.
We'll fit you guys in.
I'm sure you were embarrassed as fuck for those other people.
That weren't you?
I'm just like.
Yeah.
But I'm just, the situations is like, you got to look at something like, man, I'm
literally, that's what I'm losing to.
There's so many people out, listen,
there's so many people that inspire.
me every single day not to be like them.
No, man.
There's a few people you want to be like,
but if you literally look at it,
he said, there's so many, there's more people that I'll aspire,
you just look at it, I don't want that,
it's not the life I want, I don't want to look like that,
I don't want to feel like that, I don't want to do it.
That should be, if that ain't enough, I don't know what the hell is,
and exactly what you said, you're losing to, you're losing to, you know,
a glass of beer, you're losing to a pizza, you're losing to it, you're losing to a hot dog.
And there are going to be times that you lose.
I talk about this all the time.
Fuck it.
Every time I go to Costco and I'm checking out, that fucking menu is calling me.
Come on over here, $1.50 hot dog.
No, brother.
Pizza.
That's good price.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And sometimes it wins.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Sometimes it wins.
All right.
And then I,
and then I just look at,
Look at myself.
I was like, what the fuck did I just do?
Sometimes when you get really good, what'll happen is you'll take a bite of that first
bite of that pizza.
No, fuck me.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
That happened to me with that with a beer.
Yeah.
I was about to have a beer.
It was probably four or five months ago.
I was up with Billy G's.
I ordered a beer.
I took one drink of it.
And I like, now, fuck that.
I don't want that.
So it's, listen, we're no different than anybody else who's listening to
show we go through the same trials and tribulations we probably've gone through more
well that's what makes you more powerful yeah all right you should lean into those storms all the time
yeah all the time all right dude i think the thing that is most powerful though when you say
i don't want to be anything like that motherfucker is when it's a past version of you yeah
like when i look at pictures of myself when i was big and fat like bro i know it sounds like
harsh. I fucking hate that motherfucker.
Like if that were a physical being, I would literally physically fucking murder them.
You know what I'm saying? But the problem is that person always lives inside of you.
You can't completely kill it. You can't completely kill it. Yeah. It's always there.
It's always there. And I think one of the biggest mistakes that people make is they do think that
they've conquered that. They think it's, they think it's already been beat. I'm not that person. No,
motherfucker, you are that person still.
This is why people who drink alcohol and they get addicted to alcohol, they have to
fucking never drink it again.
Because the minute they feed that version of themselves, that version gets like a lot of
its power back.
And the minute they do it two or three days in a row, that person's back to full strength.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And dude.
That's real shit, man.
You don't have to give that weak version of yourself a whole lot.
For some reason, that version gets a lot stronger.
for a little bit than the unbreakable version.
That's real, man.
Yeah, bro.
Well, guys, Andy Tim, my man, that's a hell of a way to, I guess, keep people moving
the opposite.
Yeah.
This is a little mid-week special here, man.
Yeah.
This was amazing though, man.
Guys really appreciate it.
We got anything else?
No, that was it.
I got a question for you guys.
Yeah.
All right, this is, and I've been waiting to say to ask about this.
You know, people put out, and this has got nothing to do with the questions.
So people have bucket list.
You know, they always do bucket lists.
All right.
Andy, I think you had a bucket list that you might be the only person
that ever had this on the list in the world.
And I want to make sure I got this right.
Did you two drive a fucking tank to a gas station?
Yep, we did.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah.
Who has a kid who makes a bucket list and say,
I'm going to own a tank and I'm going to drive.
drive it to the local gas station and fill it up and drive on.
I might, I might be, I mean, we might be the only people that ever did that.
Yeah, I'm like, there's certain, there's certain, like,
like I always think about this.
This is like the weirdest thing ever, but like, I think of like sentences that have never been said.
Like, you know, like no one ever said ever, like, well, fuck, maybe I'm wrong about this now.
But like, no one ever said, I'm going to take this.
hatch it and I'm going to cut off my own dick.
Like, yeah.
But apparently someone caught on.
That has definitely been said.
But I always think about like, I always think about weird shit like that.
Like I'm like, okay, has.
And I know for like adventure people, like they're like, has a human being ever stepped on
this piece of soil?
Right.
Right.
And I think about that in terms of like things that have been said, which like creates like
all these wild ass things.
Like what are sentences that have never been said?
Like this combination of words has never come out of somebody's mouth ever.
And it's funny because like I never thought about that tank thing.
But you know, that's got to be.
I mean, if somebody has done that, it's, I mean, I'm sure they did it in like wars, right?
Like they go in the gas station and they fill up their tank.
But I don't think anybody just like did it casually.
Yeah.
So the next thing is next time you and your wife go out to eat, valet it.
Yeah.
Pull it up.
That's something no one's done.
Put it up at that.
Listen, they can hit the road.
Yeah.
I'm just like, I'm like, I'm like,
these two motherfuckers are in the station and filled up?
I had to watch it again.
I'm like, for our next trick.
It's going to be an Apache helicopter.
It's right.
It's right.
It's right.
It landed right on the roof.
Yeah, man.
I think like where, like, I don't know.
You know, I mean,
athletes do this, right?
All the time.
Like how, look at the four minute mile.
No one ever ran a four minute mile.
Now it's like if you're a...
If you want to compete, you have to.
You're not even in the class anymore.
You're like, yeah, it's just...
But that's what, you know, people say,
think outside the box, there is no box.
Yeah.
Just, you just figure, I'm gonna...
You know what?
Let's go do this.
Yeah.
Let's go...
And that's why those things are...
are so admirable, right? Like, you know, you, like, you look at, like, guys who have, uh,
you know, ridden their bicycle around the world or done, like, um, Greg Anderson right now is
doing that row from, from Washington to Hawaii. And while, you know, other people have done that,
I mean, very, very few people have done that. And I like, yeah, man, like, it's like something
you see in a movie. Like, people will be stopping. I could just speak like, oh, we got, people
stop. Yeah, people stop. You know, it's some kind where, where you're drinking something.
He's the same to the guy
you got to look at it
and look at what I fucking see what I just saw what I just saw
Do you know what's funny is like
Normally when I go up there
And I'm driving one of the cars
Like people will come over and they'll look at the car and shit
That day we took the tank up there
Nobody came around us
Everybody was like
I think they were totally like
What the fuck?
You know
That was like one of my most viewed Instagram stories ever
That was a good one.
The MRAP gets it too
Yeah the MRAP's cool
Yeah, but yeah, man, you know, it's a, there is no box.
You can do whatever you want.
You can become whatever you want.
You could create whatever you want.
But I can tell you this, it isn't going to happen if you keep talking and listening to that bitch voice.
Nothing great comes to that.
Nothing great.
And your only hope, you have, you have two hopes, okay?
One.
Actually, something does come over that.
You become a great bitch.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of those. But, you know, if you're listening to this show, you're already kind of fucked, okay? Because you already have the awareness that you want to be better. You already have the awareness that you want to become more. You already have the awareness that you want to create something. And you can't go back. Okay. So there's ignorance and then there's awareness. And once you're aware,
Unless you pursue it, you're fucked.
And that's it.
We're sleeping on the floor.
Now my jury box froze.
Fuck a bull.
Fuck a stole.
Counted millions in a cold.
Bad bitch, booted swow.
Got a on.
