REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 1043. Q&AF: When To Quit Your Job, Chasing Bigger Dreams & Being Intentional

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

On today's episode, Andy answers your questions on how to know when it's time to quit your job, how to stay committed to your big dreams without losing touch with your roots, and how to be more intentional and present in your everyday life.

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All right. What's going on, man? Nothing, dude. Yeah, it's a beautiful day. Just doing the thing. Yeah, what's the thing? The thing. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Doing the thing. The thing is getting done. Yeah. That's right, man. Yeah. No, guys, it's great. As always, I got three good ones for you.

All right, man. And let's get into it. Yeah. Yeah, show me. Let's make some people better. Let's make some people better. There's guys. Andy, question number one.

Andy, I've got a good job. Making around 90K a year. And on nights and weekends, I've been building a business that's starting to get some traction. Everybody keeps telling me, you'll know when it's time to quit your job. The problem is, I don't think you ever really know. There's a part of me that's excited and another part that's terrified of walking away from stability.

Looking back, how did you know the difference between making a smart bet on yourself and making an emotional decision? I mean, what's stability? Stability, a job where, you know, you could get fired because technology changes or your boss doesn't like the way you look at them? Is that stability? I mean, let's redefine what stability actually means. In my opinion, stability means that you are in control of your own outcomes as much as possible.

And I trust myself more than I trust other people, which I think everybody should. But unfortunately, they don't because we're surrounded by fucking losers, okay, our whole lives. And I don't mean that as like a derogatory statement. I mean that as a matter of factual description of what people are. Most people set goals. they never achieve those goals and they repeat that process their entire lives, which by definition makes them losers and not winners. Winners set goals and achieve goals and set new goals and achieve goals. That's the difference. So when we look at the environment that we're surrounded by

growing up for most of us, we are surrounded by objectively people that lose. Okay. And those people put ideas in our head. Like, Because they weren't able to do something. You're not able to do something. And those ideas affect our mindset. They affect our own evaluation and trust in ourselves because it's abnormal to do things like go out on your own and build things that most people don't build. I mean, that's an abnormal thing. And anything that you do outside the bubble of normal is going to get criticized by people who couldn't do those things.

that is common sense to me. I don't know. That should be common sense to other people, but maybe you've never thought about it before. But the reality is, is most of the people you know in your life and you can love them, you can think they're great people, they could be great friends. But objectively, they lose far more than they win. Those people have a life experience of losing. Those people put these ideas in your head, which usually creates enough doubt to where people

believe that they are going to be destined to live. the outcome that these people have lived. So there's that. But isn't it crazy too? Like the definitions of flip-flop. You know, like they want you to think that the definitions of flip-flop. Like losers are now winners.

You're a winner now if you're losing. And winners. Well, I mean, that's because that's the collective. Yeah. Like that's the majority. I mean, look, dude,

when we think about winners, there's fucking very few winners versus a lot of people that lose. And that's in business. That's in sports. That's in, I mean, how many people grew up playing baseball like I did and never made to the major leagues? Well, that was my goal and I lost it that goal.

That's a fact. Okay. So people collectively have the tendency to believe that what the collective has done is the right thing. When in reality, it's not always and rarely the right thing. If ever, I don't know where you could point out a situation where the collective is, the winning side. So you have to understand that you're accepting a path and going down a path that is not going to be understood or supported by people for a number of reasons. One, they've never seen it. Two, they don't believe they can do it. Three, it reminds them of what they didn't do.

And like, dude, you're just not going to hear good advice for most people. That's the truth. The only people that you should be listening to if you want to win or other people who have fucking won. That's, but you should tune everything else out. But, The good news for you is there's actually a mathematical equation that tells you when you should leave your job and go full time on your thing. It's not an emotional decision. It's not a decision of belief in yourself. It's not a decision of, is this the right time or not? I don't know.

You know, answer my prayers and tell me. No, it's fucking math. Okay? You can math it out. Let me tell you, the formula, it's real simple. When your side thing pays you enough money to support your life. lifestyle for you to survive and eat and do your things, then it is time for you to leave the thing that has been supporting you and go do the thing. That's it. It's fucking that simple. And

people get in this position of I'm doing this side thing. It's making me some money, but I also have my other job. So I'm making more money than I was before. And usually people have poor financial habits. And so they get accustomed to that for this guy. You know, let's say he's making 90K doing his job. And let's say he's making 45K on his side job. Well, now he's making two incomes. He's making more money than he's ever making, which gives him more comfort. Correct? Yeah, right. Right. And then to go to full time, which is what's going to amplify that result from 45K to 500K to a couple million maybe in, you know, five, 10 years. they don't want to take that step backwards, right?

So if you're serious about doing the thing, which if security is important to you, you should be because now you're in control versus someone else just walking in and saying, hey, you know what? Fuck off, okay? Which they can do at any time. If you're serious about that,

then you should be willing to downsize your lifestyle, take that step back from having the two incomes and go full steam. because you can't win at whatever it is you're doing with your night and weekend effort. It's not going to work because there's other people are doing a full time. That's right.

And those other people are, no matter what you think, they're just as good as you and they're probably better because they're getting more reps because they're going full time. So you can't compete with half-ass effort. You just can't. Yeah. When did you learn this? Because a lot of people, I don't know if a lot of people know this,

but like, you know, in the early years, when you were just getting started in entrepreneurship, you were working other side jobs because you had to, right? Yeah, the first. Seven years seven years. Okay, so that was seven years before it was like I quit all the side shit. Okay. Yeah and you know what I did? What I just told him. It was fucking math. Yeah. It's math. Yeah. It's kind of like you know these these these this like mystical I'm gonna know when it's the right time anybody who's telling you you'll know when it's the right time didn't fucking do it because anybody who's done it is gonna tell you what I just told you. They're gonna say it's math right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, and math runs the world. I don't know if you know this, but like when it comes to success, there's no mystical formula to it. It really is.

Win one day. When the next day, win the third day, win the fourth day, win the fifth day. Oh, you lost the sixth day, win the seventh day. And when you average out more wins than you fucking lose, you're going to win your life. It's that simple. And if you do that long enough, winning doesn't become something that you have to focus on every day. It just becomes who the fuck you are. So it's not even a struggle.

It's just the normal thing. It's the expectation. Like, you know why I don't get excited about winning? Because I don't. Any of you in here could tell me that. We could fucking hit the biggest grand slam in the world. And I'm like, yeah, we should have done that two years ago. Yeah.

Because that's my expectation. I expect to fucking win. Okay. And that expectation comes from years and years and years and years and years and years of understanding how winning is actually accomplished. And people like to put these mystical, ideas and these this fucking foo-foo bullshit you know on it because they want to you know abandon the the responsibility that they have for their own lives you know oh I tried really

hard but it didn't just work out bro anybody who's tried hard long enough it's not even about trying hard anyone who's been effective long enough for it's an average okay if if out of 30 days And you win fucking 27, that means that you are winning at a 90% rate. All right. That's pretty good. It's pretty good. But 97% is better than 90, right? It's math.

It's fucking math. You could gamify it, which, by the way, I've done. This is what we've built with Operator Standard where you can find the MFCEO project podcast. You go into Operator Standard and you follow the fucking directions and you can tell the difference between a critical task and a non-critical. critical tasks it literally and you follow it it literally makes losing fucking impossible like impossible you cannot fucking lose and I think people if they would remove all this mystical shit and all these what ifs and maybes and this and that that's all loser shit that you pick up along the way it is literal math it is

one plus one equals motherfucking two that is it yeah I think another thing too that you know people would have it a hard time I guess with this. And I think you said it was a step back is the lifestyle piece of it and not being willing, you know, or seeing that as a step back when it's really you stepping forward. You know what I'm saying? By whatever that costs.

I think it's, you know, it comes down to people not willing to take those risk, I guess. You know, they don't want to look embarrassed by getting an apartment from their house. You know what I'm saying? Like, well,

are you going to be embarrassed living the same lifestyle in another fucking 15 years? Right. I mean, it's all how you look at it. It's all how you assess. the outcomes and the risk. You know, most people say, what am I going to, what if this happens? What if that happens? What if this happens? What if that happens? Instead of saying, what happens if I don't? Like, that's how winners evaluate risk and outcome. Okay. So, like, it's just a perception

change that you have to have. And people who lose see the world one way and people who win, see it a different way. And if you're going to win, you're going to have to learn to see the world that way. You can stay right where you are and things are going to continue to get worse. They're not going to stay the same because the people around you are going to get better and better and better So there is no maintaining you're not going to stay where the fuck you are That's it that's absurd Yeah you try to stand still and maintain you are by default Losing because the market is moving forward at all times

Okay, so It's a You know I think this comes from a lot of different things, but ultimately I think it just comes from Listening to people who have never done shit You know yeah it's like I mean do I I think about your story, bro. It's like, I mean, you had to, you were 26 when you had to move back with your dad. Yeah.

Like 26 years old. Like, that's prime bachelor time, though. And, you know, you're having to move back with your dad to keep shit moving. No. You know what I'm saying? But, like, was that a step back? Well, what happened was I was living on my own in Springfield. Right.

And then I moved up here to open the stores here. That's right. And I didn't have enough money to get a place on my own here. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So I did what the fuck I had to do. Yeah. So, yeah, 26 years old.

I had to fucking move back in with my fucking dad. Okay? Like in the prime of my fucking 20s. Yeah, bro. It's prime time. Forget like, yeah. Okay? Yeah.

So like, what do you think people thought about me? They thought I was a fucking loser. They thought I was failing at life. They thought I was chasing a pipe dream that was never going to work. And by the way, they told me all those things. I heard it from everybody, everywhere I went. And the people who tried to be supportive, it was backhanded support. it was like oh man that's that's cool so like you really think this was going to work you know

it was shit like that and uh you know yeah it's it's embarrassing but i mean i certainly don't give a fuck now yeah you know what i mean like how'd you not do that what happened i wouldn't be here yeah i wouldn't be here yeah yeah that's real me you know i mean fucking millions of people wouldn't have changed their lives with 75 hard you know you know No, millions more people wouldn't have changed their lives through our fucking brands we've built. Millions of people wouldn't have built businesses off the podcast content that I've done. I mean, I'd say the fucking impact of me going, even though I was embarrassed, is pretty substantial. 100%, dude.

100%, man, it takes what it takes, right? Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Look, dude, that's the bottom line. Yeah. It fucking takes what it fucking takes. You can analyze it. You can think about it.

You can ask people about it. You can try to wiggle out of doing the work. But at the end of the day, it's hard to do. And if you're not all in, it's not going to fucking work. That's it. You have to be fucking obsessed because there are other people who are obsessed that you are competing against. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. If you are not obsessed with growing your company, if you are not obsessed with winning,

get the fuck out of the game because you're going to win. waste your life and you're going to get your ass beat. Okay, that's what it takes. Balance is not a real thing for people trying to build a business. That's not real, at least on a micro scale, on a day to day scale. It's not a real thing. You're going to have late nights. You're going to miss fucking get-togethers. You're going to miss weddings. You're going to miss parties. You're going to lose girlfriends and boyfriends. These are things that are going to fucking happen if you're trying to build something from scratch. That is just the reality. And everybody wants to have both. They want to have the life everybody else has and then they want to have the life

that entrepreneurs have at the end. Okay? You don't get both. So you either pay the price up front and you get something later, which is a risk, or you have the balance and all the shit that everybody has and you don't get the shit later. It's that simple, dude. It's that simple. I don't know how to say it any other than that, any other way than that. It's That's what it is. And if you're out here trying to justify and mind fuck yourself into thinking that like, you get both? Yeah.

You think you're going to be the first human in history to get both? Got to be another way. Yeah. There is no other way. Like, dude, there's just no other way. But the good news is, is that there's no risk in it either if you just understand that it's a mathematical formula. If you understand that if you win enough days in a row and your average of winning

is high enough on a daily basis, you're going to win, then what's the fucking risk? What's the risk? There's no risk. It's just a journey. I love it, man. I love it, man. Guys, Andy, question number two.

Let's build on this a little bit. Question number two, Andy, I'm the first person of my family who's even talking about owning a business or building wealth, becoming successful. Sometimes I feel like I'm carrying generations of expectations on my back. and other times I feel guilty because the path I'm choosing looks so different from what my family understands. For someone trying to break generational cycles, how do you stay committed to the future you're

building without feeling disconnected from where you came from? Look, man, do you want the life that they have? Clearly, you don't. Okay. Very clearly, because you have this ambition and this goal and this awareness that you're communicating through this question right now, you don't want. their life. You only get one life. Okay. You do not owe your family. If they were farmers for fucking a hundred years and you have a different vision for your life, you do not owe your family

to be a fucking farmer and be miserable. You don't. We only have one life. Okay. And if you really want to break generational shit and you actually mean that, which most people say shit like that, but they don't, then you will understand that in order, to break that generational cycle, you are going to have to win at a scale that makes people look and say, holy shit, look what the fuck he did. Okay?

That means you got to win big, not just kind of big. That doesn't mean you go from being a farmer to, you know, something similar like working at the tractor fucking store. Okay? That's right. Now, if that's your level of winning,

I get it. But that's not going to change the fucking generational cycle. You're just going to be a guy that did something different. You want to change your generation? generational cycle, you better win at a scale that every motherfucker that ever knew your name is like, holy shit.

Did you hear about what the fuck DJ is doing? Did you fucking hear about that? Holy shit. That's what changes people's fucking generational cycle. So if that's really what you want, you got to win so fucking big that it's undeniable. Okay. But getting back to the question, if you don't want what they want, there's nothing wrong with that. Okay?

And if you have decent parents at all or people that care about you, they want you to do better than them. All right. But a lot of people don't have decent parents. A lot of people have shitty parents. And I was blessed to have good parents. But I'm telling you, I thought everybody's parents wanted them to do better than them because that's what my parents wanted for me. All right. But not everybody's like that.

And if you got parents like that that want you to do what they did because that's the level of winning that they did. And they are insecure about you going out doing other. things and then they hide it behind this idea of well i don't want you to get hurt um you got shitty parents i don't know what to tell you sorry okay that's right and uh they're not going to believe in you they're not going to support you they're not going to clap for you until you've done it and everybody else in the world recognizes what the fuck you've done and then they're going to be like man i was i was wrong you killed it i'm proud of you maybe yeah if they're real shitty they'll fucking hate you for it yeah we're take the credit for it that's my boy look dude

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, dude, I don't know what to tell you, man. People get a different, they draw different straws, man, when it comes to your parents. You don't get to control who they are or what you're born into. And you've got to be adult enough to unemotionally evaluate the situation and not just tie your life to what your parents want for you when it's not something that you want. Because here's what will happen.

You'll get 10, 20, 30 years down the road and you'll realize that you did this. for their approval and they don't even recognize that you did it for your approval anyway. They just think that it's something that you just did. And then they'll think they'll probably say shit like this. Well, you know, it's not like you did anything special with your life. You just did what everybody else does. So like, dude, you're going to try to bend your whole life to get approval from people that will never approve of you.

So at the end of the day, what's it come down to? It comes down to what the fuck you want. And you have to be adult enough to evaluate that and have enough, thick skin and emotional maturity to not connect your outcome to other people's approval and also not hate your parents for not approving. You don't have to hate them because they don't approve. You can look at them and say, well, that's what they think. That's okay. I can still go to Christmas and Thanksgiving and I can be cool, but I'm going to do my thing. And, you know, that's what an adult does. Does this say how old he is? No, it doesn't. Yeah, well, if you're over

the age 18 you're supposed to think for yourself so I you know I personally I think this is a fucking irrelevant like man I hate I hate when I get like this because I forget that this is hard for people when they're starting but from where I sit it's irrelevant it just is your life's going to be so much better so much rewarding you're gonna have so much more leverage on everything around you you're gonna have so much more financial freedom so much more satisfaction and fulfillment in your life like it's it's it's such a small thing to worry about in comparison to what the big picture is and what what you're gonna get out of it yeah yeah it's just hard for people when they're in it

though like that is the picture when you're 18 19 20 and your parents are all of a sudden you know these people that you love and are supposed to be your biggest supporters or all of a sudden and they have these conflicting opinions about what it is that you should do versus what you feel you should do. You don't trust yourself. You know, you're like, fuck, dude, I don't know. My parents know right.

You know, it's scary, right? I get it. But from where I sit, I'm just telling you, like if you were like sitting in front of me right now and I would tell you in front of your fucking parents too because I could look right at your fucking parents and be like, yeah, you know, you're actually failing him as a fucking parent right now.

You understand that? And they would sit there, because I'm me and fucking hold their little head down and be like, oh, just not what I meant to do. Well, that's what you're fucking doing, asshole. Okay? The whole point of having fucking kids and raising them right is so that they can do better than you.

That's the plan. Okay? If you're a good parent, the winning in parenthood, maybe I'm wrong. I don't have kids so I can fucking see it totally wrong. But if I did and I was judging myself if I was a good parent or not, I would look and I would say,

Did I set this kid up to do better than me? Do they have the right character traits? Are they good to other people? Are they, do they have integrity? Are they going to surpass what I did in my life? And those are the things that I would rate being a good parent on, you know, some of the things. But, you know, that's a big one. I think a lot of parents don't want their kids to win because it doesn't, they don't want to be exposed for what they were not able to do.

Yep, their own insecurity. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to add like a little bit to that because I feel like there's also another side of it. Is that sometimes the kids have a bigger vision than what the parents have. Of course. So according to the parents, they feel like they're doing the right thing by asking the kid to do what they have seen been done all the time. For sure.

And what happens on the other end of it is the kid feels like because the parents have provided me all these years, there is a very unexplained. indirect pressure on the kid. Yeah. Yep. Like you always say you're loyal to the wrong people and people misunderstand the idea of loyalty. Yeah. That comes from this unexplained indirect pressure from the parents to the kid that if you don't do what they tell you to do, you're somehow disrespecting all the stuff that you have

done for them. Well, I mean, here's the deal. This is called being an adult. And this is called maturity on both the parent and the child. Parents have to get to a point where they realize that you're not going to tell your kid what the fuck to do. And kids have to get to the point where they realize that they got to do what they think is right. And that's called breaking out and becoming an adult, you know. But yeah, I agree with you.

It comes from insecurity, bro. And also, like, you've talked about self-awareness, too. Like, how much self-awareness that the parent have versus the kid have? And how are they interacting with each other and accepting each other? I mean, dude, let's be real. You grow up thinking your parents are superheroes, okay? And then you get out in the real world, you get to be, I don't know, 17, 18, 16, 17, 18, 19. And, you know, that uncle that you thought was the coolest uncle in the world, you kind of realize like, huh, guys fucked up.

Right? That's right. And you start seeing the fucking world for what the fuck it is. That's right. Okay. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, like, you know, I mean, I think that's just a part of life, dude.

That doesn't mean you have to like think they're shitty. That's right. You got to realize that maybe they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Absolutely. You know how many people told me that I shouldn't do what I do and shouldn't do what I did? I mean, fuck, bro, most people, most people, most people, not a few people. Most people at some point communicated to me, whether it was directly or indirectly or forward to my face or like backhanded, that what they thought I was doing was fucking stupid. Stupid, totally stupid.

And I can't even imagine at your scale, but I have experienced that in my life too. People have told me all my life. And these are direct relatives that told me if I don't stop drawing, I would never be able to do anything in my life. Yeah. But going back to the parent topic, I was thinking the other day is a boy or a girl becomes a man or a woman when they realize that their parents were not always right. Yeah. And then they also at the same time realized that it's not their fault. because they're also doing it for the first time.

I agree. That's the majority thing I was talking about. Yeah, it goes exactly. It doesn't mean they're bad. Look how many people fucking, dude, look how many of these people like blame their parents for their outcome. And it's like, oh, my parents were shit. Bro, you realized that your parents didn't know what the fuck they were doing either.

It did the best they could. That also goes in line with what you said. Like people have 100 times worse conditions than you, and they have done 100 times better. than you. Bro, those people are what we call pussies. Okay?

So I don't, you know, I'm not here to help the pussies, bro. That's right. I'm here to help the people who have that fucking inner drive,

that inner ambition, that inner desire to be great and give them the tools to do that. I'm not here to save everybody from their fucking pussydom. Okay. One of the shifts that happened to me when I started listening to you

and I'm 100% sure every listener will relate to it is I stopped blaming everybody else for my conditions. And I took responsibility and I said like, okay, I've done some mistakes. This is my condition. What can I do? Yeah.

Go from there. Yeah. It could be a small scale, it could be a medium scale, whatever it is. But I think that's a commonality between everybody that hears you in the podcast is they stop blaming somebody else and take responsibility. Well, also, dude, like that's part of the reason 75 hard and live hard exists, bro. because what it does for people is it teaches people that you are in control of most of the things that produce the outcome that you want, okay? Is there chance?

Are there circumstances? Is there stuff called luck? Maybe. Yeah. Okay? But at the end of the day, you don't punt your whole life because you might hit a bad spot or you might get unlucky. You control all the things you control, what you eat, what you drink, how you move. how you train, who you associate with, what information you put in your brain,

etc, et cetera, et cetera. And you continue to control those and invest in those at a high level. And when the bumps come, they come. You're going to keep moving. That's right. But like most people will punt their entire lives because they're afraid of something that might happen. And then that thing that ends up happening as a result of that is a thousand times worse.

That's right. You get to live in purgatory your entire life wondering what might have been. had I had the courage to actually go. And really, dude, is there anything worse than that? Is there anything worse than sitting around at 50 or 60 years old and thinking, fuck, I wasted my whole youth because I was scared? Personally, dude, I can't think of anything worse than that. What you're saying is actually proven.

There was an ER nurse who used to attend terminally ill patients. and because she has done it for decades, she actually compiled everything and put it in a book. And what you just said is one of the top five regrets of people who are on their deathbed, is that they wish that they could have done more, taken more chances, and did what they actually wanted to do.

Bro, also, though, I mean, there's a flip side. Look, dude, you can't have it all, okay? You know, my birthday was last week, and I had people, you know, that I haven't talked to in a while, reach out and had some conversations with them and stuff. And I was talking to one of my friends and, you know, they were like, you know, my kids are, my kids are getting ready to leave the house, you know, and I got divorced and, you know,

I don't want to be alone. And, you know, they were asking me if I was happy with how things were going. And I'm like, well, you know, I got this great business. I've built a lot of things. I've helped a lot of people. But, you know, I was never able to have kids. okay and it wasn't it wasn't my choice it just never happened and so like dude no matter what you're gonna have things that you wish you had okay but like that's the perfect life that's right

no that's the name of the game dude and like you have to be able to be grateful for the life that you do have intentionally like meaning what I mean by that is like sitting down and saying yeah you know what I don't have everything that I want but man I got this and this is really good and I got this too and that's really good and I got this and other people don't have that right but it was an interesting conversation because it was like the two sides of the coin you know what I mean this person had spent their life raising their kids and now is kind of like well what the fuck I'm going to do now and I've spent my life building this and I'm kind of like what the fuck am I going to do now you know what I'm saying so like it's uh it's reality man and it's just

about like what what kind of what trades are you willing to make and I don't know you know for most people that build businesses they're still able to have kids so like I just wasn't one of them so you know the point is is that you can either pay now and have what you want later or you can have what you want now and you can pay later and that is just the paradox of life yeah it's going to be hard now and easier later or it's going to be easy now and hard later that is the fucking way that life works dude yeah and the cool thing about taking the hard path early is that you get so acclimated to shit being hard then when it's hard later you don't even fucking notice it's just like what

it is that's right yeah you know like the fucking world could fall down on my head and like for an hour I'm gonna be like fuck and then I'm like all right well what are we gonna do let's fix this yeah the simplest analogy is when you start working out what used to be really hard for you is years later is your warm-up Yeah, same thing. Yeah, dude. It's, it's, it's just the way the world works, man. Not, you don't get to have everything, dude.

You know, and people that say they have everything are lying. Yeah. Okay. People that say they have everything and pretend like they don't have shit that they, that they want, that they don't have. There's a pitch coming. Oh. Okay. Like, I see these, I see these dudes on the internet. And they're like, I got this great business and I got this great wife and I got this great thing.

And I got this, this, this, this, this. By my course. Buy my shit, how to do it. It's all fucking theatrics, bro. You know, people are getting disenfranchised with that, too. Like all the influencers that pretend to be pretty all the time. Everything's perfect all the time. Now, people are getting desensitized with that.

Bro, I have to peel myself out of bed like three days a week, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? No, I have that stuff. Yeah, dude. Like, the fuck. It's just the way it is, man. It's called fucking life. Now, do you want to have life with some money?

You want to have life with no money. That's right. You know? You said that quote. I can tell you this. I've had life with no money. And it was a lot fucking harder than when I have life now and I have some money. That's right.

Because you know what? Like I, dude, you know, I was feeling down yesterday and I bought a motorcycle. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, it made me feel good for a couple hours. And I didn't have to stress about it. I'm just like, yeah, I'll take that. You know, do I need it? No.

But it made me feel good for a couple hours. Like, I don't know what, like, that's real shit, bro. That doesn't make you happy. No shit, but it made me happy for an hour. Fuck, dude. That's real, man. Yeah. That's real, bro.

We got one more question. Everybody likes to buy shit. Yeah. Everybody likes to get new shit. That's fun, dude. Yeah, bro. Like, it is what it is, man. I don't know.

I don't know. What would I say? Yeah. That's the DJ is the king of that. What is it? Impulsive purchases. Oh, no. I like deals.

Yeah. Impulsive deals. Impulsive deals. Yeah. He loves them time shares. Yeah, man, guys, there's got one more question for you, though. Guys, Andy, question number three. Andy, I'm 24. And I've heard you talk about how important intent is.

And I think Tim Grover said it in a way that be where your feet are or something to that effect. My question, can you talk more about why it's important? to be more intentional about your time and then how you become great at it. I think a lot of people struggle with this. I do for sure where I can be physically somewhere but not there at all. Oh man, you know what? I don't really, I'm not the best at that. That's something I struggle with as well.

You know, like even when I'm somewhere where I should be present, I'm thinking about other things. Probably I think everybody does. Yeah, I mean, especially now with phones and stuff. shit bro yeah you know I think connect it but not yeah yeah I think um I think it's a practice like anything I think you got to practice it you know like put your phone fucking in a cabinet or something you know and just kind of like be there um I'm not the best of that yeah I don't even feel qualified to answer it to be honest like my mind's always

in a million different places at at every single point in time and uh you know you could literally be talking to me and I look like I'm hearing everything you say and I'm hearing literally nothing. Yeah. And those of you that have relationships, you've probably gotten okay at that. That's right. That's right.

But it's kind of like that for me and it comes in and out. And you know, when I know I have to listen, I will listen. And when it's not, and this is gonna sound selfish, but when it's not something I truly care about, I just fucking tune it to fuck out. And I don't hear it.

And it's probably something I struggle with the most. And, I think it just takes, you know, practice of being intentional. I will say this, that when I do that, never one time has something happened where the world fell apart. Never one time did, you know, the, uh, the businesses come to an end. Burn down. Yeah.

Like, nothing bad has ever happened. It's like a paranoia that you have as a business owner. And I think that's natural when you build something from literal scratch from nothing. you are so concerned about it all the time because for the first number of years dude you are in a place where one or two things could happen and you could literally be out of business okay and with social media that is still kind of the case like there are things that can happen that put a big dent in your business if you're not like watching closely and um you know I talk to my dad about this all the time because like back in his day, you know, you, you close the door five o'clock, dude.

It was business hours. Yeah. And I think that this idea of, and this is kind of fucked up the world, bro, because it's fucked up families and it's fucked up culture and it's been bad. But competitors are going to compete, right? and when it changed from you lock the door and go home to it doesn't matter if the door is locked business is still going on the competitors the hungriest people saw that as an opportunity to get ahead and it was no different than when people were using steroids and baseball like you got two or three guys start using it then well fuck dude it's like Andy Pettis said when he got caught he's like hey man um all these other dudes are doing it

and I got a $20 million contract, so you're telling me that you just wouldn't do it because to compete and everybody else, you have to do it. Everybody was using the chainsaw and you're still using that. You're going to lose. You're going to lose. And so when people started putting that time in and seeing that as an opportunity, the hungriest people, it made everybody have to operate that way. And so entrepreneurship now is much different than it was 30 years ago.

And not in a good way. you know and I don't think that's going to change so I think it's irrelevant to gripe about but it's different and you know you are signing up for a different life but like we talked about in the second question you know there's a different outcome for that life

so you know I think it's just practice I you know if I had kids I'm sure I would be a much more serious about that like my brother's very serious about that okay like you cannot call my brother when he leaves the office office, he will not answer his fucking phone.

He fucking won't. He won't answer it for me. He won't answer, like, it's tomorrow. Yeah. And he's great about it. And I admire that. And I don't think it costs us anything for him to be that way. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So it's just, it's a mental addiction that you get into, especially when you're very hungry. Um, and if you're going to have a family, I think it's important to like really get that curtailed in. don't have the typical go home, you know, deal. So for me, it's not something I've ever had to like really, like really, really curtail in. You know what I mean? So I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, but I'm just telling you again, you know, all these people that act like they got it all

figured out, they're full of shit, dude. And, and dude, you want to know who's really full of shit. It's like Zishon said a minute ago. It's the ones that act the most perfect. It's the ones that flaunt their marriage. It's the ones that flaunt their perfect life. It's the ones that act like they have it all figured out and then they try to market to you how you could do it too. And it's funny because karma always comes around for those people.

Their relationship falls apart. There's a big breakup, something and then it fractures their whole thing. I've seen it a gazillion times. I actually think people that market their marriage are fucking probably like I think those are like the shittiest people I'm being completely honest. It's weird to me. It's super weird. Not only that, it's your fucking family. And second of

you don't fucking know how to be you don't have a perfect marriage you're fucking lying yeah what's the standard you're lying compared to what you're lying yeah you're lying okay you don't have it and uh nobody has it all perfect nobody has it right and nobody's a fucking expert at it the way i see it is okay person a is married to person b they might be really good doing that but i'm not person a my wife's not person b we are so different than that person dude how can i take love and marriage advice because it's it's it's hope and that's hope and convenience are the only two products that are ever fucking sold okay and people live in a shitty marriage with a shitty life they see something like that and then they

say well i hope that maybe i could do that too and then they buy their shit and i just think it's i think it's low level scum shit that's my personal opinion of it i just don't i just i that's my personal opinion of it like i don't think that that's something that people should be marketing And I don't think that people that are really good at business do that. Like you build businesses. That's right. You know what I mean? That's right.

Last thought on the intentionality piece of it too. Because, dude, I think about this all the time. You know, I'll be scrolling and I see like the videos of like the like concerts from like the 80s. Right. And you look at the crowd and obviously this is before cell phones and shit. And it's just people just there. You know what I'm saying? Like in that moment.

They really, they can really relive that concert a million fucking time. in the lifetime. And it's just like it's so weird how society just in general has moved from that. How many times do you, how many times do you think people that record fireworks watch the fireworks? Yes, right. The answer is fucking zero. Zero.

How many times do people that go to a concert? Pick up their phone and look at the concert on their phone. They don't do it. Yeah, bro. It's stupid. It's so weird. There's a study that actually came out that talks about first, it was attending the event that gave you the endorphins.

gave you the dopamine hit. Next, it moved to actually capturing it. Oh, I have it captured. I'm here. My phone, I'm here. I was here. I can capture it. And now it has elevated.

It has elevated because now the people are getting the dopamine hit from people commenting. Oh, it's so cool after you post. Oh, yeah. That's what's happening now. People are theatrically living for the approval of people that they've never even met in real life. That's right. It's weird. It's so weird.

That's why people have this fake online personas. Yeah. where they just want to show you the highlights of their life. Well, it's also why when you meet a lot of these people in real life, they're nothing like what they are online. Somebody said that to me. I don't remember who said it to me, but this guy was telling that he went to a business expo,

and most of the people were like really, really young, doing business, that's cool. But then when he was actually going to talk to them, they were so awkward and could not stand a real conversation because they're so accustomed to doing everything online and typing for everything. behind the camera. Well, it's the same reason why young dudes can't go up to girls in public.

We never had to do it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, DM easy. Yeah. DM's easy. Yeah. But like, you know, I mean, look, bro, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

It's not going to happen. The best you can do is learn how to manage it appropriately. And, you know, this is why we're seeing in-person experience makes such a good comeback. Everything that was really hot in the 90s is coming back. Right. because people are recognizing what we've been talking about. They're recognizing the damage that social media has done to culture. And they're over it.

And they're looking for authentic human connections. They're looking to do business with companies that are that way. They're looking to spend time with their friends. They're looking to be in a community. And, you know, that's a lot of companies are going to really struggle because they've never done business. They can't make that adjustment. I love it because that's how we built our business, right? And you also said that years ago.

Yeah, yeah. This is going to come back. Oh, yeah. Of course, bro. You know, I don't, I don't, when you've been doing something for as long as I have, you know, and you have to pay microattention on a day by day basis over the course of decades, it's not hard to understand what's happening or see it. Yeah.

You know, and it's not some superpower or psychic ability. It's just me. I got pattern recognition over the course of 30 years. Yeah. You know, so it, you know, I think the business, I think a lot of businesses are going to struggle with how to connect with people because they never had to do it. There's a lot of businesses that exist right now that are, that were built in the height of that social media, uh, world that are going to have a really hard time adapting to the way that people are going to prefer to do business in the future. And the good thing about me is that I grew up in that era, you know, I built a business before the internet came. I built a great business when the internet came

and I'm going to continue to build great businesses because I understand both worlds. So, you know, experiential, you know, in-person human analog connection is just going to continue to get bigger and bigger, bigger. And I think once it comes back this next time, it's not ever going to go back to social. It's not meaning social media.

It's never going to. You know, the dead internet theory talks about this. Like over 50% of the accounts on the internet, are fucking actually not even real people. They're bots. So when you think about that and you see all these comments on the internet and you realize like half of these people statistically are bots, what are you actually doing?

You know what I'm saying? You're performing for a computer program. And wouldn't it be in the social media company's best interest to create mass networks of artificial intelligent people that can communicate with the real people and make them feel like a big deal? Wouldn't it be in the social media's company's best interest to allow people to gain millions of followers,

even if those followers weren't real because it makes people be addicted to their, program keeps him on the platform okay so like dude let's think about this bro do you do you know what a million people fucking looks like shit ton of okay like i just want you to think about this the university of michigan's football stadium and ohio state in nebraska holds roughly 100 000 people okay think about that now think about 10 of those or 20 of those or 30 of those one, two, three million of those people watching someone make fucking stupid ass videos. That's not real, dude.

It's not real. Okay. In the personal development world, we have this thing that is called asses in seats. Okay. There's lots of people who make content who get all this traffic and they get all these comments and they get all these views. But they can't fill a room of a thousand people. They can't fill a room of 500 people. Why is that?

That's because the fucking shit's fake. That's right. Okay? And they're not making a real impact. And they're not making a difference. They're performing for a few regular people and mostly a computer program. And then you think about like, that's how you're going to spend your life. You know, like that's one of the reasons I kind of got out of posting on a regular basis because I'm just like, yeah, it doesn't really matter.

like when I sell tickets to shit people show the fuck up but that's because of the cumulative benefit that I provided for decades right like most people have seen my content most people that are on the internet have seen my content now I might have the most followers all right I might not get the most comments but my shit has been shared cumulatively for 15 years heavily. Okay. And that creates a situation where people have gotten value out of it, which creates a situation where when I sell tickets, people show the fuck up.

And, you know, that's real influence. And I'm not just saying that to toot my own horn. There's a difference between attention and influence. And most people want influence, but they mistake it for attention. And, you know, I think a lot of people waste their lives. trying to be, you know, relevant to people on the internet that might not even be real people. And that's kind of fucked up. I didn't want to cut you out, but I did want to say this point when you said your clips have been shared for the last 15 years and has created real influence.

I am the proof of that. Yeah. The first time I ever saw any content of you was a compilation and a YouTube video. And when your video came up, the MFCO podcast was on the screen. I started listening to that. And then everything in my life slowly, gradually changed. And now, especially after coming and working here, being around everybody for the last six years,

the team, you, everybody, everything in my life has been changed forever now. Like you said, once you realize your potential, you can never go back. So now I have realized, like, I can do all of this what I'm doing right now. And just like me, there are hundreds and hundreds of people who have come for the OS event

at Summer Smash. event, they have changed their lives completely drastically. We have hundreds and hundreds of testimonials of that. Well, I mean, dude, it's just because, like, I'm trying to put shit out that actually helps people. That's right. You know, I'm trying to tell people the reality, like, not market to them. Well, it also, I was just going to say that.

Doesn't that also tie into the intent? Like, you're doing it. That's what I talk about public speaking, you know, like, I don't know. You know, if you give people benefit, they're going to buy your shit. It's just, it's a recent. reciprocal thing, you know, like, I don't know. When you first, out of curiosity, I never asked you this, but like, were you living in America or were you living in India?

I was living in America at that time. Oh, I'm serious. I was in Chicago. No, that's a good question. That's a curious question. I was in Chicago at that time. That's roughly 2016. I moved to America in 2014.

So, like, roughly two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. My older brother was a big element in trying to expose me to stuff like this. just to get us motivated a little bit. Yeah. And that got me to you. Yeah.

That's super cool. Hell yeah, man. Well, guys, Andy, that was three. Yep. All right, guys. Well, let's go kick some ass this week, and we'll see you later. Don't be a ho. Share the show.

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