REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 1052. Andy & DJ CTI: Idaho In-N-Out Shooting Motive, Mamdani's Government ID & MySpace Comeback

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

On today's episode, Andy & DJ discuss the motive behind the Idaho In-N-Out Burger shooting as the armed citizen involved speaks out, Zohran Mamdani's proposal that would require a government ID to pur...chase food in New York City, and MySpace's latest effort to make a comeback and compete with today's leading social media platforms.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 On the flow Now my jury box froze Fuck a pole Fuck a stole Count it millions In a hole What is up guys It's Andy for selling
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Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah. Just doing it. What about you? Yeah, I'm good, man. I had a little too many froze I was a little bit. Froses? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 What's a froset? It's like, you know, the rosé champagne? Yeah? Frozen. Like a slushy. Like a popsicle? No, no, no, it's like a slushy. It's like in the shape of a popsicle?
Starting point is 00:01:23 No? Yeah. Nope. Just the shape of a cup, I guess. I figured you liked the popsicle shape. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Do you see that thing I set to you about the dude eat the hot dog? Yeah. Yeah, man. You know, nothing safe now, bro. Before the internet, no one cared about how you ate a hot dog. Yeah. Now you just, like, you got to cut it up in little bites and shit. Those bananas, that's another one.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Like, you got to be careful out here, bro. It's treacherous. Can't have any snipers. Trying to get you. Yeah, man. Yeah, I had a big weekend this weekend. Yeah. Both my, uh...
Starting point is 00:01:55 Bro, the bulls. Both my PBR bulls just dominated. Both of them were two and oh. At the, uh, at the PBR event down in Oklahoma City. That was cool. How much does Cupcake weigh? Uh, he's over. too, right? No. So, so our bulls are actually pretty small compared to the big bulls.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Like it's a misconception that you think the biggest bulls are the hardest ones to ride. But just like people, you know, there's a line that you cross of diminishing returns where when the bulls get, yeah, a big bull. No, for real, in athleticism. Right. So like, just can't move like that. Yeah, that's right. And so what gets people off the bull, Dennis has been teaching me this. Okay, Dennis Davis, who owns Dennis Davis Bucking Bulls, uh, awesome guy, super fun. I got introduced to him, um, through Dana. You know, Dana has his bull. Dana White's playmate. That's right. And, um, he's had it for a few years and he's had a lot of fun with it. And we got on a conversation one time because everybody knows I like the rodeo. Yeah. You know, I got my own
Starting point is 00:03:00 rodeo that happens every year at my farm. And, uh, so, you know, we were, he kind of got me into it. and i met dennis and dennis kind of explained it and i would see these big bulls and i'm like how big is our bulls going to get and he's like well that's not the whole game yeah so it's the motion in the ocean that's right it's what you tell yourself in it so so like dude it's about force and acceleration and the way that they move and so both my bulls screaming freedom and uh cupcake are not the biggest bulls but they're super explosive And that's what makes him hard to ride. Cupcake especially.
Starting point is 00:03:40 He's already ranked top 10 right now. He's a beast. Yeah. That dude's a beast. And he's little or screaming freedom. Yeah. Do you guys, do you have to like, are you allowed to like, hey, like, if he fucking knocks him out, give him a cupcake?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Like, can you do some shit like that? You know what I'm saying? I don't know. That'd be cool. Yeah, the guy fucking eating cupcakes. Oh, give cupcakes some cupcakes. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I bet he would like it.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's a little reward. You know what I'm saying? He got to watch out of diabetes, but yeah. He'd be cool. Yeah, he had a good, he had a good weekend. He actually had the same guy ride him twice on Friday night. This guy who he came back from being injured, but he's a top rider in the world,
Starting point is 00:04:22 top five rider, really good rider. He wrote him on Friday, got bucked off in like four seconds on his first ride back from being injured, which, you know, I was happy about. It's kind of fucked up for him. Yeah, well, dude. So like then he like, He wanted to ride Cupcake again on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And then he wrote him on Sunday again got bucked off in two seconds. Oh, man. Yeah. And it's like, I was happy, but also I was like, fuck. That kind of sucks, man. You know, but it is what it is, you know? And I was going to talk mad shit, but then I like, I kind of felt bad. So I kept it real nice and easy, but.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Very professional. Yeah. Dude, you got to have a little trash talk when it comes to competition. Dude, it's what makes it fun. Yeah. You know, it's nothing personal. It's just it's what makes it fun. I'm having a lot of fun with it.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You know, I know Dennis is having fun with it. And, you know, it was cool to see him on TV on the biggest stage with the best riders and see him do well. And that was cool, you know. It felt as silly as it sounds, you know, it just, it feels like a different kind of win. It's like,
Starting point is 00:05:26 yeah, you know. That's right. You know, my fucking bull. But man, there was some, there was some crazy rides. Like, dude,
Starting point is 00:05:32 people that have never been to a rodeo just don't get it. Like, you have to go. see it in person to really understand how awesome it is. For sure. I never thought it was cool until we had our first rodeo out at my farm. I didn't even know we were really having a rodeo. And then Aaron and the guys were like, okay, at Fall Fest this year, we're going to have a rodeo.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And I'm like, oh, that sounds all right. Sounds cool. Shit, dude. They opened that gate the first time and I was fucking hooked. Yeah. Like, I was hooked. And even watching on TV yesterday, I was like glued to it the whole time. It's just, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's a great sport. And it's, it's Americana and it's representative of what, you know, American culture is. And it's a shared culture. You know, there's a lot of Latin America and, you know, South Americans that ride it. And you know what I like about it dude is like there's just mutual respect amongst everybody because everybody understands what the fuck it is. You know? That was the other thing, too, that I thought was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I guess, like, I didn't really, I didn't really understand. I guess or respect like those bull riders bro like they're fucking athletes dude oh dude and like it's very unassuming
Starting point is 00:06:44 you know what I'm saying and like they're not these are not like they're not massive dudes they're not fucking you know they all train but fuck dude no they all train
Starting point is 00:06:51 they all got obviously massive balls they're all tough as fuck and they all respect each other that do it and I mean how could you not right
Starting point is 00:07:02 you know what I mean even the guys who are on other teams those guys are friends Because I mean like dude when you do hard stuff like that you're gonna respect the people that do it Yeah you know it's also too it's like I mean it is a competition in that sense I guess between them But it's like it's really you and the fucking bull bro yeah it's my favorite thing Out of all the sporting events I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:07:22 I would rather go watch bull riding than anything else really oh yeah not even close honestly Would you ride one? You gonna not at this point in my life I'm I'm too old bro like I break something now and it take me two years to get back from it That's true you know so it's not worth it you say worth the squeeze dog no and like also like when I was young I was never around it yeah and then also like do these guys are you know for most these guys are not they're they're like they're kind of smaller dudes you know what I'm saying yeah and uh it's it's one of those kind of sports you know what I mean yeah it's not I would get
Starting point is 00:07:57 fucking hurt you know like hurt bad yeah so it would be good yeah it no I would get hurt real bad and I'll be real I'm not gonna sit here and be like I don't even I don't even know if I would do it like like that's big big balls man shit there's a lot yeah and that's why I feel bad about cheering when these dudes get bucked off because I'm like fuck I wouldn't do that shit yeah no no there's no fucking chance man but it's cool and it's it's uh it's something I enjoy uh I've enjoyed getting into for fun and um you know everybody keeps asking me like do you make money doing it. You can make money doing it later down the road if your bulls do well. And, you know, they go into like breeding programs and stuff. But like, I'm just doing it for fun.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. You know, it's just fun. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Man. I'm going to go to PBR and NFR and Vegas this year. I probably spend the whole week out there, you know, getting to meet everybody. I can't, I'm going to try to go to the next couple of PBR events just to get to know. Like a lot of the guys, dude, like they, they listen to the show and their first. for them guys. So like, it makes sense. I kind of know a lot of these dudes through the internet. So I'm excited to get more involved in it. Yeah. But you plus too, you haven't actually met Cupcake yet, right? No. Yeah. So that'd be no. Yeah. Yeah. You got to go meet them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Dennis said, because like, dude, when they're done, I get to take them home. Oh, that's cool. They come live with me. Oh, that's cool. So I was talking to Dennis. I'm like, hey, can we like, how do we like domesticate these things? That's right. So I don't know. But I'm convinced I can make them my friends. Well, you're pretty good with him. We'll probably end up on TV. Man gets destroyed by his own bull. Fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Fucking whatever. The bull was fucking origins of Israel. And like, how? It was beside. That's right. It was beside. Hell yeah, man. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:47 speaking of doing new things and trying new things, you know, um, I thought we bring back a segment we haven't done in a while. Let's get philosophical. Philosophical. Philosophical. You know, I think we,
Starting point is 00:10:00 you know, you've expanded your palate you know you've like try new foods and shit that's cool you know I think we need to get a little bit more artsy okay all right so we got a we got let's get philosophical let's check this clip
Starting point is 00:10:13 the brand new art installation this is art right here what is going bro that's art bro listen this is reflective of the downfield fall of society. It really is. No, it really is. No pun intended with the mirrors. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:41 It used to be you had to have skills to be called an artist. Yeah. Right. Like if you go back 500 years ago, we're talking about people who were painting and doing these amazing things to have all these layers of different things. And even some of these paintings have three or four paintings painted beneath them, right? Or you have these amazing sculptures. You know, you have these amazing sculptures. You know, who sculpted, you know, David and like all these crazy. And now, you know, with art is a reflection of where society is, right? The music, the art. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah. And, you know, I shouldn't be surprised, but, you know, like that, remember that piece of art that sold down at, in Miami? it was like a banana tape to a wall. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know, it's lazy and it's there's nothing to it.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And it's almost like, I don't know how to describe it, but it's like this weird cult pseudo artist shit. You know what I mean? It's not real art, bro. And just because you call it art doesn't mean it's art. No.
Starting point is 00:13:09 right um and when we want to look at like what's going on with our buildings and our architecture and things in society you know this is reflective of that and it's a shame because where are the amazing painters oh they're not getting the recognition where are the amazing sketch artists oh they don't get the recognition where are the amazing sculptors oh they don't get any recognition but this guy he's an artist right take a banana on tape to the wall and that's fucking art that's right right and you know it's it's a joke dude it's a joke and it's gross and the fact that like people clapped for this it shows you that like cult mentality and it's really kind of like that whole that whole mentality of like i'm on a team right i'm a refined
Starting point is 00:14:05 aficionado of art but I don't have to know anything about real art I can just like the banana tape to the wall and I'm art critic you're elevated now right exactly it's like a way to elevate your own identity without actually having to
Starting point is 00:14:20 understand or appreciate real art fucking anything at that point right you know so it's he was so proud of this of course it's the greatest thing you ever did you know he thinks he's very clever and I'm sure if you talk to him he has you know super refined, intelligent, political opinions that are smarter than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And it's just like, it's a joke. It's a fucking joke. Our society is a fucking joke at this point in time. Like, imagine this being shown as art 300 years ago, 400. Dude, the guy would get killed. They cut his head off. You're fucking blasphemy. Right?
Starting point is 00:15:00 There used to be pride in these things. There used to be real barrier this this this this is the art that artists from our country are making, right? This is this is what the Italian artists are making. This is what the French artists are making. This is what the English artists are making. Now there's no pride in any of that, you know, and we wonder why society is just gross. Like it's just gross. No.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You know, so I, you know, it's pathetic. Yeah. Yeah, man, guys, tell us what you think down in the comments, man. Imagine being one of these morons that buys this art, bro. Well, I mean, how the fuck do you buy that, though? Everything's in business. I'm just saying, like, no, I'm saying, like, in general. There's these pieces of art that have sold for $30, 40, 50, $100 million that are literal,
Starting point is 00:15:51 just canvases that are like a single color, like a blue or a yellow. It's just a fucking canvas with blue on it. That's right. And Hunter Biden does better. You know, and I know everybody says, you know, art is in the eye of the beholder well our eyes are misaligned right like what talent and what skill does that represent dude like and a big problem here in the united states is that we don't have the artistic culture that europe has we don't have the artistic culture that you know it has been
Starting point is 00:16:24 around for a thousand years right right we don't we don't walk up and down the streets and see churches that were made in the year 800 like do in Europe, right? So our ability as Americans to understand what good art is is really limited because we don't see it, right? But if you go to Europe, which most Americans never do, and you walk down the street, you'll know what fucking art is. You'll know what a beautiful city is. You'll know what architecture that actually brings pride to the culture in the country looks like. And it's unfortunate that we don't have that here. And what we have had here has been destroyed.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And it's been replaced with soulless, you know, concrete and glass and modern looking nonsense. Yeah. You know, it's sad, dude. Super sad, man. Super sad. Guys, listen down in the comments, man. What you guys think get philosophical. Yeah, that guy's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Let's keep cruising though, man. We got a lot to cover, a lot of talk about Guys, remember if you would like to see any of these articles, Pitcher's Links videos, go to Andy for Sulla.com Bro, going back to that, like, I follow a couple pages on Instagram Because I'm not an art expert, okay? But I've been to the most famous museums in the world. You know, I've been to the Louvre, I've been all through Europe,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I've seen all the museums, I've seen all the paintings, I've seen these things in person. And like, so I follow some of these pages because I don't really understand how to evaluate art the way that it was intended to be evaluated, right? And it's crazy because some of these most famous paintings in the world, like once they're explained to you, you can really like appreciate what the story that's being told in the painting, right? and um you know contemporary art and i mean i don't know it's just it's just gross it's just it's gross shit dude i think i think i think uh i think and i think it's reflective of a of a gross society that is that is non-cultured and you know yeah solace i do like uh banksie i like his work you know what i'm talking about he like he isn't he the one that did the fucking banana
Starting point is 00:18:50 no no they i think they said they thought it was him i thought the banana thing was like actually like some dude just did that shit and they called it an art. I don't think Banksy did that. Banksy does like the more like super realistic drawings. I don't like any of that shit. That shit's all trash. Sorry, dude. It's all trash.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's all, it's all appreciated by a bunch of people who have too much money that don't have enough money to get real art. Yeah, no shit. It wasn't Banksy. Yeah. Hell yeah, man. But yeah, let's get to our cruise guys.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Got a lot of stuff to cover. So let's, let's dive into headline number one. and got to go to Idaho. This is the big talk of the town right now. In and Out, in an out, burger shooting, a motive, still a mystery as armed citizen speaks out.
Starting point is 00:19:40 So this was, this was absolutely crazy. Police are still working to determine why a 24-year-old gum and opened fire at a crowded In-N-Out Burger in Twin Falls, Idaho, killing three people and wounding seven others before taking his own life after taking fire from a bystander
Starting point is 00:19:58 and an off-duty Idaho State Trooper. Twin Falls Police Chief Matthew Hicks said Sunday that investigators were confident Chad Williams acted alone in Saturday's attack, but detectives have not yet established a motive or fully traced as movements before the shooting. Quote, we believe their actions helped drive the suspect away from the scene, preventing further casualties. Hicks said of an armed citizen and officer return fire. Quote, we want to take a moment and commend the actions of the off-duty officer and the citizen
Starting point is 00:20:26 and their heroic action to stop this incident. Now videos was going along, going around crazy of this shooting. This is one that was making waves. He didn't think that through. I don't want to have service. Now, police have not publicly identified the trooper who returns in fire or the bystander. But the Idaho statesman detailed the hero. of Jordan Salinas, who's 35 of Kimberly, Idaho,
Starting point is 00:21:27 strapped by the shoulder with an FN-5-7 automatic, semi-automatic pistol fitted with the suppressor. So there was these videos going around showing Jordan, returning some fire, check us out. Now, Jordan is a reported health care worker, and this is honestly who I kind of wanted to focus in on, bro, because this is what we need more of in this country right now. He's a reported health care worker and the full-time caregiver of his wheelchair-bound brother.
Starting point is 00:22:10 So this is Jordan here. Now, Jordan trains. He trains. And stuff was coming out online. There's been some videos now. He has a YouTube page where he kind of shows his training videos. And a few of the posts have come up. And he's like, I've literally trained for something like this to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And this is like a little collab of some of his videos he's put out. really awesome dude but yeah he was uh he said that he was able to observe orient and decide that okay this is the guy he said before uh being resolute to act um saying that the gumman was shocked by the armed response i guess not not thinking anybody was going to fucking bust back and uh he did man haven't seen a whole lot of conspiratorial things that came out did he kill him uh he so the the gumman uh died from his self-inflicted gun gunshot ruin. I do believe he did get hit though a few times. Yeah. From the
Starting point is 00:23:19 off-duty trooper in Jordan, but he ended up taking his own life. You know, but I haven't seen the conspiracies or anything go crazy. So again, I'm saying from what we're seeing right now, everything looks, you know. Yeah, it's a fucking whack job and an armed citizen who stopped it. Right. Which it's, I guarantee you, dude, I don't even know because I haven't been watching, but I would be shocked at this is. even getting coverage on MSM. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Well, and that's the thing because they always like to use these situations for the gun debate. You know what I'm saying? It's like, and here's a great example of,
Starting point is 00:23:56 and by the way, Jordan has no military experience, no law enforcement experience. He's just... No, he's a responsible citizen. Yeah. Who understands the importance of exercising their Second Amendment right?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Correct. And trains for it, more importantly, you know? But, you know, they always try to make these, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:13 in this political light to push gun control. You know what I'm saying? Every single time it never fails. But it's like had there been gun control in place, how many more people would have died because of this guy? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Well, this is what happens when these guys pick targets that aren't schools and aren't, you know, little kids and aren't churches and aren't these things. And, you know, it's important for every man in this country. And I think women too, bro, like I think especially with this migrant crisis and all these third world shitballs coming in from everywhere. where I think it's very important for women to train. I think it's mega important because like, dude, these guys are cowards.
Starting point is 00:24:55 They are pussies. Yeah, they're not attacking men. Right. They're not, they might attack men, but they are far more likely to attack women and children and people that they think aren't going to fight back. And there's a lot of women out there,
Starting point is 00:25:09 especially, you know, that are single, that don't have a dude with them, and they're out there, you know, around and living their lives thinking that everything is safe and like we're not in that world anymore man like it's different now and i think it's important for everybody to carry and train i think it's very very very important and you know um there's more and more reasons why every
Starting point is 00:25:35 single day you know when they when they import 20 million military age males that don't have female companionship don't have families who are talking about, you know, they're going to conquer the country through breeding. Well, how do you think they're going to do that? They're going to rape people. Right. And I actually think that, like, it's super important that if you're in a, I really don't care what the laws are.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I don't care if you're in a carry state or not. Like, you're taking your life into your own hands if you don't carry and you don't train. And I think that's at a bare minimum. tragically irresponsible. You know what I mean? At this point, absolutely. Yeah. At this point, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You know what I'm doing? I think my biggest thing has always been to, okay, cool, you carry. You have a gun, great. You got a train. That's better than not having it. It's better than not having it. But like the amount of people that are unfamiliar with firearms
Starting point is 00:26:32 that carry a firearm is most of the people that carry firearms. That's right. You know, most people that carry firearms do not train. They might have a little. pistol in their purse or they might got a little, you know, Glock on their belt or something when they go places. But knowing how to use it is very important. And it doesn't do you any good if you don't know how to use it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 So I really think it's important, especially for women to take that seriously. Because like, dude, we live in an era where the masculine man doesn't exist the way that it used to. Sure, there's still some out there like this guy, right, who's willing to stand up and, and, you insert himself into a situation to protect innocent people. That still exists. And there's a lot of those people, but you can't count on one of those people being around.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You have to be one of those people. And that requires training. And, you know, this is a perfect example of that. No. It's just such a crazy situation, man. But, like, I mean, to your point, bro, I feel like there's going to be more of this. Way more.
Starting point is 00:27:38 More. This is the beginning of that. It's going to be so much more. Look, we're starting to see civilians fight back. Yeah. Okay. And like as stupid as this example is, it's, I see, I'm starting to see this everywhere. So for the last three years, we've seen, you've seen those dudes that do wheelies on their bicycles. Okay. And they ride at people and then they wheelie away right away. Well, now we're seeing people just fucking body check them right off their bikes and knock the fuck out of them.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah, they should. Which should have been happening from the beginning. But everybody's been scared, right? when everybody stands up and enforces the socially acceptable standard in society through the application of tactical violence when required controlled violence that's right when that happens order restores okay we're going to see less and less of these little fuck faces doing their wheelies yeah because now they're getting their fucking asses beat okay And we will see less and less of people just pulling out an AR at an in and out burger or some random place. If they know that the other men in the store are not going to have it and they're going to put one in your fucking brain. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:56 That is something that we should all be totally dedicated to doing as men of this country in order for order to restore itself. the reason that we have all of this ridiculous crime is because for the last 20 years men have kind of like opted out they've looked away you know when things have started going on well that's not my problem or in certain cases you know they're going to be punished for it and we have to get over that yeah we have to get over that like we have to be willing to protect innocent people when these things occur and if every man in this country carried a fucking pistol and knew how to use it this shit wouldn't happen it wouldn't happen so yeah dude massive kudos to that guy yes and massive respect to that guy i hope somebody bought him a beer well i'm i'm grateful for men like that yeah you know that is that's a real man period so i think it's a i think it's an awesome story i fucking love to do that's i saw my man that that is just crazy work yeah bro we're letting the we're letting the inmates run the asylum. It's what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Okay, we're letting the mentally ill people. We have bent over backwards in society for the last number of years to appease people who are mentally fucking ill. Okay. This goes into the argument with the trans community. This goes into the argument with, you know, um, the whole idea of the first everything, right?
Starting point is 00:30:29 This country wasn't based around the first. It was based around the best. okay and this whole idea where all these mentally ill people have started to feel in a protected class like they can do whatever they want they can break shit they can scream they can throw tantrums they can be violent they can do all they've been allowed to do all these things and they will continue to do those things until people step up
Starting point is 00:30:55 and do not allow them to do these things that's what will reset the order you can't the police will not be able to do it because there's not enough police to do it yeah there's no law that's going to be able to fuck out. No. No. Had to work like that, man. So like, dude, you know, men, men especially have to be willing to step in when things are wrong and handle the situation. And you should be prepared for that. And to your point, it's going to get worse and worse because of this third world migrant situation that has been happening here and is likely to get worse again because, and this gets into a
Starting point is 00:31:34 political discussion, you know, people are so disenfranchised with Republicans that there's probably going to be a big surge of democratic policies come back into play. And they're going to open the borders right back up. The shit's going to get way worse. We are dealing with two sides of the political spectrum that are both bad. And we are dealing with a mentality where people, Like for example, I saw this fucking comment criticizing me on the internet And it was on that clip where I said, I'm not right, I'm not left, I'm not, you know, the one that goes viral every time it fucking hits the internet And some dude wrote, yeah, well this guy was a maga chud blah blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:32:26 First of all, motherfucker, I was never fucking maga ever and yes, I did vote for Trump three times The reason I voted for Trump three times was not because I believed everything that Trump was doing. It's because I recognize the pain and the bad things that were happening on the other side. And we have this situation in our country where you're not allowed to change your mind. You're not allowed to say, you know, if you're on team left and you criticize the left, you're a fucking piece of shit. If you're on team right and you criticize the right, you're a piece of shit. When in reality, neither one of those teams have our interests in mind and that's been shown. So we have to decide who is going to make it worse and vote against that, right?
Starting point is 00:33:15 And we don't have the mentality as a whole to do that. We just don't. We have these people who have built their identity on, I'm this, I'm a Democrat or I'm this, I'm a Republican, and they will not think outside those boxes. And like, dude, until we start thinking outside the boxes in regards to what's right and wrong and what's good and bad for. the country and are honest that the left does really bad things for the country. The right does other things that are really bad for the country. And we have to choose in the meantime while we're trying to figure this out which one's going to do less damage so that the people can find a solution in the meantime.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Does that make sense? No, absolutely, dude. Well, the other thing too that's crazy, like I mean, even just going off for that, it's like, you know, you also, if you don't criticize the right enough, you're not good. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's like everything's just so fucking. Well, the same guy was like, the same guy was like, you know, these guys go, they, they say whatever the, like he was saying about me. He's like, it's whoever pays his bills. Well, I got a news for you, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I pay my bills. That's right. Okay. There's nobody. I've never taken a fucking dollar from fucking anybody. There's no contributions made to me. I don't get paid to say shit. If I did, I'd be out here fucking saying the same.
Starting point is 00:34:40 shit everybody else says. And that's the problem with having your own opinion is that you're always going to piss someone off. But the reason that people get pissed off is because they built their identity, which is a fucking low IQ position. A low IQ position is to associate yourself with the political party that does not serve you as an individual and remain loyal to that party when they do so. That is that is low IQ shit. Okay, if you're a Democrat You should be able to say I don't like this and this and this
Starting point is 00:35:20 This is fucked up I don't like these things That's that's I don't like what the fuck they're doing here If you're a Republican quote unquote You should be able to say I don't like this shit that these guys are doing I don't like these things Okay You don't just go along with it and then fight with the guy across the street
Starting point is 00:35:36 That's that's what they want you to do Yeah Yeah The real enemy why they're both fucking us. Exactly. They're out on the golf course talking about how they can fuck us.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And like, dude, this division that's happened in this country that really kind of started with COVID has become so polarizing and people are so ingrained into their identities
Starting point is 00:36:01 that there's no way to have a civil conversation. No. You know? No. It goes straight to fuck you. Well, no, it's not just that. It's like if you say,
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like, for example, like if I said, like if I say, hey, I like the Trump's doing this. Oh, you fucking suck Trump's balls. Yeah, fucking Trumper. Right. Well, I don't like the Trump does this. Well, you said you liked him two years ago. That's right. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:30 That's because I had hope that he was going to do what he said he was going to do. You understand? Like, I don't, like, dude, there's just two. And then we have a whole other problem. And you know what the real problem? is here the real problem is is that we allow people to have a say in the direction of this country that don't contribute to it at all if you don't have a job you shouldn't have a vote if you don't file a tax return you shouldn't have a vote we have too many people that don't work that are voting
Starting point is 00:36:57 in our elections and they're always going to vote in their own best interests they're always going to vote to take away from that for someone else to give to themselves that's the nature of human beings okay so if we really want to to fix the fucking country and get back to a representative republic we have to eliminate people from being able to vote that don't contribute to the system like if they're not paying in on the tax dollars then why the fuck should you have a vote yeah why should you have a stay on where that shit goes that's right yeah right and it really doesn't matter how old you are it doesn't matter if you're you know 18 or if you're 16 or whatever if you're paying in you should have a say if you're not
Starting point is 00:37:37 paying in you shouldn't have a say and part of the strategy is that we're going to import all these people, let them vote, and they're going to vote your shit away from you to give to them. And that's not going to ever work. It's not going to ever work. That's going to lead to an internal civil conflict of violence, because, dude, the people who are getting their shit taken away are not going to fucking allow it to be taken away.
Starting point is 00:38:03 No. Not without a fight. Not about a fight, man. Yeah, man. Yeah. Like I said, kudos to Jordan Salinas, bro. Go work on that. Guys jump in the conversation. Let us know what you guys think down in the comments.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Let me say. Let's keep cruising. We got headline number two. I got to go to New York just real quick. You know, speaking of communists. Zohan Mamdani. He's getting into some heat. Zoran Mom Dani won't let you buy his food without government ID.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So did you see this shit? No. So, you know, they've been trying to push these government run grocery stores right in New York City. And so they're about to start rolling them out. But in order to shop there, you have to have a government ID. And it's just a mass, you know, hypocrisy. But you don't need one to vote.
Starting point is 00:38:56 But not to vote. No, not to vote. That's racist. It's racist. But you want to buy food to feed your family. But that's not racist. That's not racist. Got to make sure the family's yours.
Starting point is 00:39:06 So these people have the mental capacity. and the technical ability to get an ID, a government ID, to buy food, but they don't know how to register to vote or use a computer so they can get a voter ID. That's right. That's right. Let's see what he said. How are you going to keep people from taking advantage of that deal, basically? And is there going to be a limit on the number of items that someone can take that are
Starting point is 00:39:35 discounted at that level from that essential basket? So our RFP makes very clear that this is. a program for New Yorkers to be able to put food on the table, not a program for people to be able to make a quick buck through reselling. I'm going to pass it over to our EDC head GPAC to add some additional details. Yeah, that means you don't know. Yes, if you look at our RFP for the operator, we are looking to make sure that we target New Yorkers, whether it be at sort of a library card aske that, and also we manage who's buying and that is focused on everyday New Yorkers. So we are mindful of that. And so we're going to make sure that we have all.
Starting point is 00:40:11 the place, all the things in place to make ensure that that does not happen. So you don't have an answer to the question because when you have a actual answer to the question, it doesn't, you don't answer it with esk. It's like a library-esque type of thing. Like these people live in a delusional state of reality. This is going to fail miserably. And I can't wait to watch it. It's not even sustainable, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Bro, because they can't answer the question. How do you keep people? people from going in the store and taking shit and then go putting it on fucking Facebook marketplace to sell you. Mm-hmm. How do you keep people from going in the store, taking shit, and then going on the corner and reselling it? You won't arrest people for violent crime.
Starting point is 00:40:56 You're going to arrest people for selling fucking powder milk? That's right. Okay? So like these people don't know what the fuck they're doing. And again, this is just pandering to people that don't understand the way things actually work. Okay. groceries and food and canned goods and all of the things that you buy in the store those come from
Starting point is 00:41:17 somewhere okay and they don't come from the government they come from private citizens who own businesses aka capitalism that produce goods and services to be sold to serve a need in exchange for some sort of money okay when you pull that incentive out of this concept of you know there is a profit to be made. What incentive do the manufacturers have to even do business with these stores? Okay. And on top of that, we're talking about operating an actual business efficiently. Grocery business especially has to be operated massively efficient because of the nature of food expiring.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yep. shelf life. Okay. So when you look at the DMV or the courthouse or anything in your city where you've ever dealt with the government, would you say that it runs efficiently? The answer would be no for every single one of you. In fact, you would say, I hate going there so much because of how inefficient it runs. Now take that system and apply it to this. Do you think that they're going to be able to maintain for very little incentive goods and services that are consumable and have expiration?
Starting point is 00:42:38 for very long. It's not going to happen, dude, and it's never happened. This is why you see breadlines in Soviet Russia, okay? When this all starts is a fucking good idea, free food, free food. But there has to be incentive along the way for that food to be produced. Otherwise, people don't fucking produce it. That's right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And then you get a system where the government starts to farm and the government and they run it all efficiently. The food disappears and people fucking starve. And every communist country that's ever existed in the history of Earth knows this. You ask anybody that came from a communist country when it got really bad. And when the communism got overthrown is when people got hungry. And the reason they got hungry was because the government couldn't control the food supply. And this is the beginning of that.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And our best hope here is, you know, that it fails so miserably that it becomes an example of what not to do. But they're not going to put it out there if it fails. They're not going to show everybody if it fails. And like I said, when Mandami got elected, they're probably going to government subsidize the programs to make them look successful so that they can win this across the country. Yeah, and they're going to have to force the suppliers
Starting point is 00:43:52 to fucking get on board too, bro, because... I know. Imagine me, an actual grocery store up in New York City having to compete with your state-run grocery store who, you know, is giving shit for fucking free. They're not even accounting for shopping. uplifting and shrinkage and fucking the takeovers where people run in and just take shit. Like this is going to be a shit show.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's going to be a shit show. And, you know, I was talking to one of my buddies from New York who happens to be leaving. He's a very successful guy. And I didn't know this. But amongst native New Yorkers, Mondami, like, only got like 10% of the vote. Mm-hmm. And the people who voted for them were not native New Yorkers. They were imports and immigrants and all kinds of fucking shit.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And like, it's sad, dude. It's sad. Yeah. You know, and you get people to defend it, right? Like, because they want free shit. Mm-hmm. Right? Who doesn't?
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's like when Obama came out with the free cell phone. And the reason Obama got elected is because he promised free cell phones to everybody. Mm-hmm. Shit phones, by the way, too. Well, yeah, of course. You know. And as if the I mean let's be real dude
Starting point is 00:45:12 Do we really have a problem With Our welfare system of food anyway I think the problem isn't that fucking people can't eat And can't get food I mean look at the most of the people that are on it They're fat They're fucking obese
Starting point is 00:45:26 You know we covered this on the show They're taking EBT and and uh you know All of these benefits and they're going in and living better than the taxpaying citizen Who's paying for that? Right. Okay, so this isn't even really a problem that has to be solved. The problem is how do we get people to not take advantage of the system? And and what this is, this is optics. This is, hey, look what we did. Look how much better we can do it. Look, it's, this is fair capitalism. It's not, this isn't fucking, this will ruin the country, dude. And, and I don't know. I don't know if the people in this country as a whole are smart enough to recognize it. Yeah. I don't know that. Because. Because how the fuck does this guy get elected in the first place? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:12 He gets elected off of a group and age demographic that grew up from, you know, being a little kid all the way up, being taught that capitalism was bad. You know, it's down the man. Yeah, exactly, dude. And we have a big problem with it right now. Yeah. Well, I mean, and the other stress test that, you know, they're not even accounted for is, you know, the influx of these migrants who don't have those IDs. Like, how is that going to work? Because there's a shit ton of them in New York City.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah. And they're not even addressing that. Now, on the migrant situation, because there's something interesting, and we cover this last CTI. This is too aggressive of a move for Mondami to make. It's a mistake. Okay. When you put yourself in his position, and his position is very clearly,
Starting point is 00:47:00 my job is to make communism palatable for the rest of the country. That's right. This is a mistake, okay, on his part. because when you talk to people who like mandami, they will say things like, well, they filled all the potholes. Okay?
Starting point is 00:47:17 All he had to do was come in and clean up the trash and fill the potholes and shut the fuck up. Just shut up. Okay. And then people will say, God, dude, communism looks great.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Look how good our city gets. And then it will spread. Okay. But this, this is a bad chest move on their behalf. Yeah. Because this is aggressive. It's too quick.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah. It's not going to work because it's never worked. Yeah. It's never worked. All right. And, you know, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Now, on the migrant thing, this is something we covered last show. There's been some development, so I wanted to kind of touch on this too. But, you know, we covered the whole Sweta invasion, right? Yeah. That happened. It's kind of weird. And there's some things that have come out since then, since we've covered that last Thursday, about that situation.
Starting point is 00:48:11 So Morocco comes out and they're blaming Swaita border surge on an exploitation of digital platforms and misleading information is what they're blaming it on because these people are coming via Morocco. And they're saying that the last week's massive surge of migrants
Starting point is 00:48:30 to the Spanish enclave of Swaita on various factors, including malicious exploitation of digital platforms, whatever the fuck that means, And in the spread of misleading information. Most of the migrants were sent back home by Spanish officials after the sudden and deadly border rush. A Moroccan official said late Sunday that the surge of thousands of migrants last week into Swait to a small Spanish city on Morocco's Mediterranean coast was not the result of circumstantial or spontaneous factors. Now that I do believe and that I do agree with because how do you get an estimated almost 50.
Starting point is 00:49:08 50,000 people, right, to do something like that, right? Like the amount of planning, the amount of logistics it has to go into doing something like that. Like, how does that work, right? Well, we got to go to our boy Thomas Massey because he just released some stuff that I thought was pretty incredible. And he released, he just tweeted this out. He said two weeks before migrants from Morocco invaded Swaita, the GOP passed a bill with
Starting point is 00:49:38 $40 million for Morocco in a committee report advising. The Spanish administration cities of Swaita and Malila are located in Moroccan territory and remain the subject of Morocco's longstanding claim, right? And that's literally in the bill passage, right? Now, a lot of people, this probably will fly over their head, but this is not a new thing. This is not new, not for America at least, because even back going back to December of 2020, 20, I believe President Trump doubled down on the fact that Swaita and Malila are Moroccan territory and they belong to Morocco and basically Spain should kind of just give it up.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But what exactly is he saying here? And somebody kind of said the quiet part out loud. Translation, CIA now actively subverting Moroccan regime government with congressional approval to which Thomas Massey said bull's eye. Right. And so that $40 million got put in two weeks ago. And then you have this orchestrated invasion of almost 50,000 people to stress test this. Again, logistically, how does that work? How do they get there? How much of that $40 million of taxpayer dollars, by the way, you think helped that situation? I'd say a shit ton of it. Yeah, for sure. And it's not even just, not even,
Starting point is 00:51:05 not even just the America's involved, because there's been another angle that has been coming out, that this is also something that Israel has been pushing for heavily. Yeah. Here is a video of Bibi Nanyahu himself, pretty pissed off with Spain, and then even his son tweeting some things out. Let's check this out. After, shoo-hove, to get set out, Israel. Who, who took up the United Israel, in themop of the military, who does this, not have a future of our
Starting point is 00:51:34 I'm not mucan to sboh the ability of this and the oenot I don't mean to have to ever
Starting point is 00:51:40 a new government to know to know we'll to shalem on that cash, makeir mehadi. That was
Starting point is 00:51:49 pretty recent and then the son posting this basically Net Yahoo for those of you listening was just saying
Starting point is 00:51:56 we don't like Spain, fuck Spain and they're going to have repercussions because they don't accommodate Israel's interests.
Starting point is 00:52:07 That's right. That's right. And that was just a few weeks before this happened. Correct. But even BB's son, I tweeted this out back in 2019 saying, Dear Arabs and Muslims, once a free occupied Arab Islamic lands, here's a good start.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Spain's North African possessions. Right? And so the main conspiracy here, right, is what people are believing because it's how it's always typically work, is that, you know, Israel came up with this plan. Hey, this will be good. America, we fucking fund it and give the fucking dollars for it to actually happen. And they're stress tests on that now.
Starting point is 00:52:46 That is the conspiracy narrative. That's not a conspiracy. That's what the fuck they did. It's what it is. That's what it is. What are your thoughts on me? What are you talking about one of my thoughts? My thoughts are everybody's tired of fucking Netanyahu playing world fucking
Starting point is 00:52:59 dictator and pushing these migrants into Western countries while they don't allow any to go in their country. Mm-hmm. Okay? Like it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. And the reason that it's tolerated is because people are afraid of being called racist. Okay?
Starting point is 00:53:16 They're afraid of being called racist. They will give up their own freedoms, their own lives, their own country, their own culture because they won't fucking acknowledge that these other people who happen to be a different skin pigment than them do not fucking belong here because they're afraid to be called racist. That is what's happening. That is why Europe is being infiltrated. That is why America is being infiltrated. It's because the citizens of our country have been brainwashed into not standing up for their own people. That is what the fuck is going on. And if you want it to stop, you got to quit being afraid to be called names and start standing up for what the fuck
Starting point is 00:53:57 it actually is, call it for what it is, and stand on that line no matter who the fuck says what. That's what needs to be happening. Okay. And we're at a point now where we're going to reach critical mask. We're like, dude, it's going to be impossible to get rid of these people. Okay. Trump goes out and, you know, I don't know if that was pretend or what. You know, we're going to deport everybody.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And 80% of the population of America, both Democrat and Republican across the board, issued a mandate to President Trump to remove these people, which he has failed at doing. He has failed at doing. Okay. Why has he failed? Well, you can say, well, you know, those two protesters got killed up in Minnesota and that cooled it off. So because two fucking idiots who shouldn't have been involved in the situation ended up getting caught in the middle of it and getting killed, we're going to give up our entire country and culture? That doesn't make any fucking sense. That doesn't make any sense. Okay. And I know it doesn't make sense to Trump. that doesn't make sense to Trump either so did he ever actually intend on getting rid of these people
Starting point is 00:55:09 right then you got JD Vance on saying well you know most of them got to go no we voted for all of them to go okay and we see them softening up and softening up and softening up and dude by them softening up they are basically conceding
Starting point is 00:55:28 our country our culture our population your wives and daughters and children to these third world savages coming here and doing whatever to fuck they want. Okay? So these citizens have to make a stand on this. They have to.
Starting point is 00:55:46 They have to. You have to be willing to stand up and resist this shit however which way possible. By any means necessary, bro. And then the craziest thing too, like, you know, even just on the Spain situation, for example, right?
Starting point is 00:56:01 Just again, further. alludes how orchestrated this one and dude it's not a racist thing okay like how these people are going directly into black communities and black and then they'll tell you it's racist but actually a big portion of the resistance the people who are actually resisting are black americans right that's right and and then you still have the the white liberal women oh my god trying to like fucking advocate for this, then fucking go move there. Like if you're a white liberal woman and you're advocating for third world savages people that have no culture that is compatible with ours who rape and steal and fucking fuck up
Starting point is 00:56:47 our entire country, you should be deported with them. Yeah, go with them. Bye. And at the very least, we should be able to look at those people and say, shut the fuck up. Like, dude, like for real, dude. These people have no, they're not affected by this. They feel good when they go to brunch and they have their little champagne and they say, well, I don't really see the problem with it. Look how good we have it.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Not everybody has it like you have it. They're out of touch people who are sympathizing with these people. It's like that woman in Italy we covered a couple weeks ago. There's a dude from a third world country in Italy who is jerking off on the beach in front of people in front of children and these Italian dudes beat his ass. not bad enough in my opinion no not even close to is bad enough and then you have a woman who is italian run up and like get to his defense and start rubbing his back and she what the fuck are you doing right stay to fuck out of it your daughter and your fucking granddaughters and your kids are going to have to deal with this because of your suicidal empathy and weakness towards this
Starting point is 00:57:57 one issue you won't be what are you going to say like like and then dude also anybody to advocate's for this, you should be forced to host these people. Like if you openly advocate for third world migration into this country, you should be forced, absolutely. Like if you make a tweet, if you like a post,
Starting point is 00:58:18 if you make a post, if you say it in public, you should be forced to take in one of these families. And if that were the case, they'd all shut the fuck up because none of them will fucking do it. Anyway, you were saying.
Starting point is 00:58:36 No, yeah, there was that one woman that I think it was up in Michigan. She's like, oh, you know, I support. So she didn't have hiring them, like hiring one of the migrants as like a cook or her personal chef. He killed her. Yeah. And fucking killed him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:50 That's right. He killed her. That's right. You know. Bro, this will be the downfall. Oh, dude, this is no different than an invasion that you watch movies about. Bro. Like, this is no different than when you watch Troy and you see the fucking boats coming in from, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:08 other like invade like dude this is a fucking invasion this is an invasion and it's happening in every western country on the planet the question you should be asking is why and who is advocating for it and who is putting the money towards it and by the way I'll save you the fucking search it's going to be the the Israeli cabal of fucking Netanyahu's and Soros is and all these special interest groups
Starting point is 00:59:37 and they're doing so to ruin all of the fucking western countries so that they can rule over them. That's it. That is what's happening. Oh, you guys, you guys care about Muslims now? You guys care about, you know, all these Arabs and Muslim occupied territories, but then you'll go and wipe out Iraq and all the countries between you and Iran and make shit fucking impossible. to like, dude, it's stop it. Bro, listen, man.
Starting point is 01:00:11 The good news is, is the world's waking up to it. But I mean, I'm fucking tired of seeing it. And what I'm more tired of is seeing people who are totally ignorant talk like it's a good thing. Now, I will say this. I do have quite a few liberal-minded friends.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Okay. Believe it or not, I can be friends with people who don't share the exact same beliefs as me. They're just a little retarded. Yeah, that's right. And they say the same about me. So it's just a bunch of retarded people arguing. But even those people are like, yeah, this is fucking bad. Yeah, this is not good.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah, I see this and I don't like it. You see what I'm saying? There's nothing good that can come up on this, bro. No. Nothing. Nothing, man. Guys, jumping on this conversation. Let's know down in the comments what you guys think.
Starting point is 01:01:05 It's time for our third and final headline. Headline number three, Andy. I thought I would take you back a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, a little hop in the time machine for you. You might be excited about this one. Headline number three reads, MySpace seeking a revival as its owner's plan,
Starting point is 01:01:23 comeback effort for once popular social media platform. MySpace. I didn't have a, you had a MySpace, right? Yeah, man. Everybody did. It was MySpace. it's coming back it's coming back now let's dive I mean there's a market for it dude well I mean what was so like again I did not have one so what was so unique about it well first of all
Starting point is 01:01:48 it wasn't filled with ads okay okay it wasn't everything was a fucking ad okay it was a page you had a page and it was a profile home page and then you were connected to other people and they were connected to you and you would post the things that you like on your page and people see it and interact with it. And then if you wanted to go to their page, you could go to their page to see their shit. But it wasn't filled with ads. It wasn't filled with bullshit.
Starting point is 01:02:12 It wasn't, there was no bots and all this other shit. And, you know, there's a market for that. There's a market for that. There's a market for creating a social media platform around real people that share an interest.
Starting point is 01:02:25 By the way, I've created one. If you go to operatorstander.com and you go to the community, there are no bots. There are all these people that want to, win and be better and share beliefs about success. And, you know, that's not the main product, but that's, that's, that's an accessory to it. But the point is, people are spending a lot of time in the community because there is no ads
Starting point is 01:02:47 and they are real people and there is no bots and they're actually having real conversations. And that's what people crave. Yeah. Okay. Social media has become this fake shit. Like, we all know what it's become. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:01 You know, we don't even know what's real and fake anymore. Like we don't even know what like we watch videos on the internet and half of them are AI We even know it's more than half of them yeah you don't even know like if people like we see Political videos we don't even know if they're AI or what we don't know we don't know what the fuck's going on and that's by that's buying it's intentional So anyway what do they do on yeah so my space could soon make a comeback after nearly two decades on the decline as its owners seek a fresh start to compete with The current social media giants the owners of the once popular social media platform brothers Tim and Chris Vanderhook announced plans to relaunch MySpace with the new vision. The brothers said that they want to create a platform that feels different from current social
Starting point is 01:03:45 media platforms, which many users complain are too focused on algorithms and are designed to encourage endless scrolling. The Vanderhook said in a new documentary, Myspace, that they, quote, built an entirely new MySpace, but did not work out. We really tried to modernize it, but it was a different company at that point. It wasn't the same. MySpace, Tim explained in the documentary. Chris added, by that time, they had been through four other sets of management and CEOs. We were going to be the fifth ones.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And I think that there were a lot of people who were really just done. The two now plan to relaunch a platform at some point, but the target date has not been set. And if that one doesn't work, we'll do it again, Tim said. Tom Anderson, MySpace co-founder and everyone's automatic first, friend sold the company in 2005 and is not expected to be involved with the Van Hook's upcoming initiative. And apparently he still has his MySpace profile still up on there, which I thought
Starting point is 01:04:46 that was kind of cool. But we didn't have this, dude. I had, I had Bebo. You know, you familiar with Bebo? No. So I had Bebo. It was a similar thing. I'm assuming.
Starting point is 01:04:57 But I actually went and went to Bebo and I looked at this and I thought you would enjoy this. So this is a message from my. A letter from Michael that Bebo was coming to an end, right? And very, very much of the same things that you were just describing as kind of what he, what he went into here, saying, you know, how he launched it 21 years ago. It was a space with skins and whiteboards and quizzes. And you had a top 16 on your homepage.
Starting point is 01:05:25 They tried to bring Bebo back and relaunch it as it was, right? And it was okay, but it didn't really work out, right? So he's focused on bringing in a new one. He says, so we're not ending the idea. The idea is the only thing we've ever really worked on. Its new home is called Bluebell, messaging and social fused into one year. Group chats, your photos, your people in the same room, no feed of strangers, nothing to perform for. It's smaller and warmer.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And it's the thing I've been trying to build up, uh, built since 2005. Um, and so, you know, the whole, the space, I guess, of social is just completely changing and people really are starting to get over it. What, what the human need, I guess, to connect has always been like we want to connect with people. But you've mentioned before how it's going to be moving back to in person and real life connections, right? How quickly can we see this happening? How, like, how?
Starting point is 01:06:24 We're already seeing. Yeah. You know, more people are deleting Instagram than have ever deleted it before. It's one of the highest, most deleted apps. You know The One of the most popular reels that we see online On a consistent basis
Starting point is 01:06:45 Are these reels of like it's it'll say like You wake up at Christmas time in 1997 Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep Or you're a Friday night on 1997 and these are the reels that are getting Hundreds of millions of views Mm. And the reason those. are getting hundreds of millions of views.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And they're getting them from people who weren't even born then. Right. It's because people are realizing what we've lost in the pursuit of this digital connectivity that has been pressed on us so hard. So the thing that's going to be difficult to overcome, because people are craving in person. And we're seeing companies start to move towards community as well. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:34 We've always been a community first company, but we're seeing other companies try to follow that, which from an entrepreneurial standpoint is really good for people who operated pre-internet because those fundamental skill sets that you needed before social media, now are going to be probably more important than any other skill set to have. And so a lot of people who built their brands between, you know, let's say 2014 and you know let's say now they've only really known how to operate in the digital space yeah so a lot of companies are going to struggle to make that transition back to community
Starting point is 01:08:14 and the companies that do it effectively are going to really dominate um that doesn't mean social media won't be relevant that doesn't mean that it's not important that doesn't mean that you won't drive business off of it but if you don't have the community aspect you're going to have a hard time with staying power because now everything's switching right like like right now uh you know tic-tok shop is a huge thing right but what happens when tic-tac shop changes its deal or it changes or something else like a lot of these companies are becoming one-trick ponies right they know how to do one thing and they do that thing very well and then they mistake themselves in thinking they're really good operators okay but i've been in business long enough to know that things always change and what's
Starting point is 01:09:01 for you know now or 10 years ago that changed to something else and that changed to something else and one of the most valuable probably the most valuable skill set as an operator right now in business is the ability to adapt quickly and a lot of people are planted into this digital thing and they're gonna have a hard time with the other parts of it but to answer your question how fast do I think it's going to happen I think it's already happening dude. I don't think we're going to see like this. There's not going to be an announcement. So, hey, by the way,
Starting point is 01:09:35 everything's over here. That's not what's going to happen. You know, people are going to be on less. People are going to scroll less. I mean, we're seeing the introduction of, you know, all kinds of devices that limit people's social media consumption because they do realize that it's addictive. The need for community and contribution to a community is a, those are human needs. Those aren't things that can be replaced. And when we see, see all of these videos going viral, mega viral about the way things used to be. That's a really strong indicator of what people are actually craving. And where they find that is where they're
Starting point is 01:10:14 going to go, whether that be in their restaurant, whether that be in their community, whether that be the companies they shop with, wherever they find that sense of community and belonging is where it's going to migrate to. Because, do, quite honestly, you know, while I do, enjoy Instagram and TikTok because I can see funny videos and you know I can I can I can very easily look at things I want to look at like if I want to look at certain cars I can go in the search bar and fucking type in Bugatti and fucking see every post with the Bugatti on it right it's it's it's kind of evolved into a search engine of interest instead of a community community connectivity yeah and the original idea of of
Starting point is 01:10:56 social media was community connectivity that's why it worked And then meta got so big and Instagram got so big that it evolved the whole social media game. And nobody else was able to pick up that torch and continue to keep that one part that really got everybody invested in it. So it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out because meta is so big and they're so powerful and they have so much money. Even if someone were to build an amazing community, you know, app, it's likely that meta is going to come in and try to overpay for it. And when you have someone who comes from nothing and has built something that's worth $10, $20, $30 billion, they're probably going to sell it. So that's a problem that, you know, we face.
Starting point is 01:11:42 You know, when they've gotten so big and so powerful that they can buy all the competitors up, now we run into a true monopoly situation where even if something does get traction, it's going to be hard to really sustain it because, I mean, could you blame someone for selling something that they started off with zero and they get offered billions of dollars i don't think any of us could blame somebody for that um so it's going to be interesting dude but i know this i know that regardless of how big companies get the free market always dictates success and for meta to continue to be dominant they are going to have to pivot away from the bot networks from from the AI. They are going to have to work to restore legitimacy to their platform in a way that
Starting point is 01:12:37 people can trust. Because once you lose the trust and you don't know what's real or what's not, there's no point in doing it. Look how many people rarely post anymore that two years ago, three years ago, five years ago, we're posting all the time. Okay. The reason they don't is because they realize like how fake and gay it's really become. Right. So it still has its uses. That's not what I'm saying. You still should build a personal brand. Absolutely. But we have to understand where this is going, not just where it is today.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And, you know, there's going to be companies that come along and they create a platform where people enjoy how it operates because it connects people. But the real moat that has to be overcome there is that once that gets traction, is it just going to get gobbled up by the big dogs? You know, so I don't know, dude. Like, if I was Zuck, man, and he's a smart fucking dude, bro. Like, he's not, like, people think, people think that, I mean, they have all kinds of opinions of the guy.
Starting point is 01:13:42 The guy's very fucking smart. But if I were Zuck, I would be looking really hard at how to maintain or rebuild the trust in the apps, the social apps. because with the emergence of AI and then the understanding that most of the traffic on the internet has become bot driven you the trust is diluted and it's not it's not going to
Starting point is 01:14:10 people aren't going to continue to use it and we won't know that's happening because they just have bot profiles that post right so it's like it's not like you're going to see the whole thing drop off yeah right so it's just I don't know man it's it's going to be interesting
Starting point is 01:14:28 I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but I know this. I know that more people are moving to rural America than have moved to rural America in years. And it's not because they hate the city. It's not because there's crime in this. There's always been crime in the city. It's because they have a yearning and a longing for a regular life. And they assume that they're going to get that more in rural America, which maybe they do, maybe they don't. Because if you continue to to spend all your time on the internet nothing changes right right so um you know there's gonna be there's a lot of people who have moved out to rural places and they figured out like oh this is actually
Starting point is 01:15:09 pretty fucking hard work to do but like you know uh some do it for like the trend of it yeah right but but what i'm saying is is like those are indicators of where culture is right you know where are people moving they're moving to tennessee why are they moving to tennessee it feels like normal it's because when they look at tennessee on the internet, it looks like normal America. Okay. And people are craving that right now. And the companies that understand that and capitalize on it are going to win. And it doesn't matter what business you're in. It doesn't matter if you could capitalize on where the culture is going and what people crave, you're going to do well. If you ignore it, you're not going to do well.
Starting point is 01:15:53 And so it's an interesting time. I think there's lots of opportunity to be creative. And I don't see that trend reversing itself like i i don't like going back to the art that we had in the beginning of the show like what would it take for that trend of wanting to go back in time to a better time what would it take for that to reverse to where people want to move forward in the future like the way like there's never been a time in history where people have craved to go backwards more than now. Yeah. And what's that tell you about the direction we're going in the future?
Starting point is 01:16:39 It tells you that we're not going the direction that people actually want. We're being forced into that by people who have power and means. It's not genuine. No, it's not what we want. People don't want it. And, you know, it sucks, dude. Because this country that we see today is not the country. It's not what I grew up in.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And I feel really bad for people who never got to experience life before all this technology and all this accessibility, like the internet, social media, you know, even cell phones. Like you're supposed to have a life, dude. And because the technology is the way it is and because greed drives the assimilation of that technology. of that technology, we now live in an era where people really have a hard time living a life. That's any, which way normal. And then we're like confused as to why people are depressed or why they don't feel good or why they have anxiety all the time or why they can't sleep. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 01:17:48 It's because you're not operate like your parents and their parents. Like when they went home for work, dude, they went fucking home. You know what I'm saying? Like, and then you have like on Q&AF, we always answer. this question probably wants to show someone asks this question you know how do I find balance well unfortunately in today's era it's very hard to have balance and the only way to have it is to execute effectively and then basically shut everything down and pick it up the next day on your own right um that's hard to do it is hard to do especially when you're competitive that's right
Starting point is 01:18:25 but that's also why it takes discipline to be effective at the time when you decide to work and decide what the win is and once the win is accomplished you can move on to the next day and um you know it's it's an interesting time dude and um the spirit of of cultural revolution is definitely in the air um which i think is good you know i think people are are finding their way back to like reality uh but unfortunately i think there's going to have to be drastic action for that reality to ever take place. And I don't think we're there yet because people aren't hurting enough yet. And, you know, I know there's people listening.
Starting point is 01:19:07 They're like, what do you mean? I'm hurting. I'm not talking about that kind of hurt, bro. I'm talking about not being able to find your fucking food. And we're a long ways off from that. I mean, the easiest time to fight it would be now. But unfortunately, you know, people seem to not take interest in things until like it's too late. It's necessity.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen, dude. I know that the best thing that anybody could do, the best thing that anybody could do as an individual is to realize that their life matters and that their example and how they live their life sets the culture for how the rest of the culture lives their life. And when we're personally excellent individuals and we take care of our bodies, we take care of our minds, we put good things in, we assume good. information, we work hard, we create success. We do not depend on the government for anything. We don't trust the government with anything.
Starting point is 01:20:10 That creates a culture of resistance that is hard to manipulate and control. And that's why we say personal excellence is the ultimate rebellion. But it comes from the individual, right? Like you have to at some point step into that and realize that you are the leader. Like you are the one you've been waiting for. You are the person that you've been waiting to come along. You just haven't become that because it hasn't occurred to you. You've faced, you know, dozens of years of propaganda to tell you that your voice doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:20:48 You don't matter. Your life doesn't matter. When in reality, they wouldn't be spending trillions of dollars of propaganda to convince you of that if that were the truth. That should indicate to you what the truth actually is and what they're actually afraid of. They're actually afraid of the people, the able-bodied citizens of this country figuring out that they have the power, which we do have. Always had it. Yeah. But we can't be fat and consume their bullshit.
Starting point is 01:21:17 We can't be sick and consume their medicine. We can't be lazy and consume their doom scrolling and data. we have to become the antithesis of what they're trying to create and stop feeding their machine. That's what has to happen because when we stop feeding the machine, their machine doesn't work. So, you know, and so many people are around, like looking around for like, how do I fix this when they really should be looking in the mirror, right? Like, how are you, are you contributing to their machine or are you taking away? Are you fit or are you fat? are you educating yourself or are you believing everything they say are you healthy are you consuming
Starting point is 01:21:57 all their shit are you actually spending time with your family or are you sitting down consuming fucking bullshit all day like where where do you fit on the scale as an individual and you need to assess that and evaluate that and work to become the antithesis of what they're trying to create which is a society of dependent weak unhealthy uh lazy that feed all their interests and what they're trying to do. It just takes what we get. Yeah, dude. And that's that we're in control of that.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Yeah. It's real, man. So, yeah, guys, let's know what you guys think down to the comments. That being said, let's get to our final segment of the show, as always. We have thumbs up or dumbest fuck us. We bring something in. We talk about it. We vote on it.
Starting point is 01:22:41 We give it one of these two options. Andy, are you like pie? Pie's all right. Nice little pie. What kind of pie you like? I mean, you know, pie. Yeah, well, what's your favorite kind? Be real with you?
Starting point is 01:22:56 Yeah. Like a strawberry rhubarb pie. Oh, really? Bro, fuck. I don't think I ever had that one. Yeah. Absolutely. You like pie Z?
Starting point is 01:23:03 What kind? What's your favorite? All kinds. Yeah? Apple pie, I would say. Apple pie's good? Classic apple. You like the, I like the crumb apple.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I like lemon meringue pie. Oh, you're one of those. Yeah. What do you mean? One of my. That's just good. Okay. No, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:23:19 That's some good shit. Okay, that's cool. Yeah. All right. Well, this, I have, I have, I like cheesecakes. I love cheesecake. Cheesecakes are good, too. I like cheese.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Yeah, but anyway, go on. What? I don't even go start there. What? It's the same way. Yeah. I like cheese less now. There you go.
Starting point is 01:23:42 I don't think you like it less. You probably just eat it less. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. Well, I got an 81-year-old, A lesbian She likes pie
Starting point is 01:23:53 She 81 year old lesbian Wins best technique At a pie eating contest in California Are you She eats a lot of pie Are you ready for this? Yeah
Starting point is 01:24:08 She took a dentress out and everything Gumbing that bitch up Oh God Oh my God. You know what she looks like, bro? Oh. You know, she looks like Aunt Edna from the original movie vacation. Pull that shit up on the internet.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Let's see you side by side. Aunt Edna. Aunt Edna. Oh. Yeah, that's right. That's crazy. I don't forget a fucking face, motherfucker. Oh.
Starting point is 01:24:53 No, no. Edna. This is crazy. Edna from fucking Ann Edna. There she is right there. There she is. Right there. There she is.
Starting point is 01:25:02 She's wearing the same fucking outfit. That's her. Yep. Look at it right there. That's for sure her. That's the same. She must be on that adrenachrome. That's one of them adrenachrome pies.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Bro. See that? I don't forget a face. That might still be. That's really her. That probably is her. Yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:25:24 She's, she had a lot of pies. Yeah. Oh, she's had a lot of practice. A lot of practice. Babs Dach. Wowed an enthusiastic crowd with her impressive pie eating skills on 23 November videos posted to her Instagram account. Show she has an Instagram account.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Show her very spectacularly devouring a cream-covered pie. That's probably a phrase for her. Using only her face. She says, I took my time savoring every morsel of crust. hidden beneath those sweet hills and valley. I don't know what she described it like that, Doc. Although she didn't take home the first place trophy, she clearly left an impression on the judges with her tongue action.
Starting point is 01:26:11 But she did. Best technique. She didn't get first? She didn't get first. Oh, well, then they were discriminating because she's a lesbian. That's what it is. I'm surprised they didn't get arrested in California for that. I thought if you entered a contest in California and you were a lesbian,
Starting point is 01:26:26 you automatically had to win. Bro, she looks like she was about to fucking pass out. Well, she's about to die. She's 81 years old. Bro. Yeah. She'd probably join the government after this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Yeah. Make her president. That's fucking gross. What are you giving this, man? Look at all the people that are cheering her on. Like, it's a bunch of fucking delinquents. You know, these are the same people that clapped at the art at the beginning. That's right. Same people.
Starting point is 01:26:58 They were actually there before. Right. It's exact same people. The same people. Yeah. 100. You don't appreciate art. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:06 God, dude. Our country's just a bunch of degenerates at this point. Yeah, it's rough, man. And I'm okay with being degenerous, but let's be the right kind. Yeah. You know? What's the right kind? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Let's drink beer and look at titties and shit. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Do wild ass shit that you got to say, hey, hold my beer right before you do it. It's like, you know what I'm saying? listen to rock and roll music fucking you know like have fun like some cows yeah like but god dude right i'm you know what it is man i don't know what it is i don't even know it
Starting point is 01:27:44 it ain't good no it's not good i do want some pie though you want some what strawberry rhubarb bro it's a gas i'm being real they sell it at deer burks pretty good it's pretty fucking good yeah Well, guys, what's rhubarb? Rubarb? Yeah, what is that? It's like a, it looks like celery. Okay? But it's like, it has like a sweet taste to it.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Yeah. It's like a, yeah. That sounds gross, dude. Not root bar, rhubarb. It's like, are you? Oh, come on, Z. Does it look gross, dude? It's just leafy vegetables.
Starting point is 01:28:28 So you like vegetables in your pie? Bro, I'm telling you. telling you it's I'm telling you bro it's it's fucking good no that's gross dude bro I'm telling you it's fucking delicious that's gross that's gross it's delicious if I if you had a slice of this you'd be like holy shit pie's pretty good I like pumpkin pie yeah we like sweet potato pie where I'm from where you from yeah from St. Louis motherfucker yeah south side of St. Louis you know what I'm saying yeah yeah Ruba I'm I'm I'll bring in some for you.
Starting point is 01:29:02 No, that's all right. You would like it. No, I won't. Bro. Andy, you would like it. You'd like, oh, shit, man, this is the best shit ever. This is amazing. I'm telling you. Have you had it?
Starting point is 01:29:14 What kind of pie do you guys like? Baclava. Ain't shit regular over there, bro. What's regular pie got there? What's regular pie? What's regular pie? Like, what if we were going to say what the regular pie is, got to be apple pie.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Apple pie. Apple pie has got to be, I mean, it's American as apple pie. That's why the saying is the saying. That's right. Apple pie is pretty good, dude. Yeah. Yeah, but like there's only like some that are like good though.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Dude, hot apple pie with like ice cream. Fire. That's some good shit. Oh yeah, yeah. Kim'swick, the Blue Owl. What is that? They got the mile high apple pie.
Starting point is 01:29:53 It's legendary. Where is this at? Kimswick. Kimswick, Missouri? Yeah. I have to get the address. Yeah. They don't, they don't, they don't,
Starting point is 01:30:00 They don't let black people. Oh, yeah, they don't. There's like a good. That means it's going to be nice and enjoyable. I'll make sure I enjoy my experience there. This would be great. It's my type of place. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Guys, Andy, that's all I got, dude. Yeah. All right, guys. Well, don't forget that you're supposed to carry weapons and learn how to use them. That's my public service announcement for the day. That's a good one. You know, Bob Barker always used to have his public servant after the price is right. It was, don't forget.
Starting point is 01:30:30 get your pets spayed neuter don't forget to get a pistol and learn how to use it that's right yeah that's right amen all right guys that's a show don't be a ho show show we're from sleeping on the flow now my jury box froze fuck a bull fuck a stole counted millions in a cold bad bitch booted swow got her on bank row can't fold just a no head shot case closed

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