REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 1067. Q&AF: Tiers Of Leadership, Networking With Older People & Closing Deals

Episode Date: October 12, 2026

On today's episode, Andy answers your questions on how to set different levels of leadership in your growing business, how to network with older professionals in your industry, and how to close deals ...with clients who take forever to commit.

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Starting point is 00:04:04 Cool. Let's get into it. Guys, Andy. Question number one. Hey, Andy. Hey. Hey. Hey, I got my form energy.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. Oh, that's all right. I haven't seen you do orange in a minute. Bro, orange is so good. Orange is good, bro. Bro, you know what I had? I had that, uh, that lemonade. The clear?
Starting point is 00:04:29 The clear. Dude. Fuck, bro. That formula one clear lemonade is the best protein ever. No, no, the non-carb. Oh. Oh, yeah. Well, fuck.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Carb, bro, fuck. This is juice. Well, the Formula One clear, we're just going to make this a whole fucking commercial. Let's do it. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. You got the what, non-carb, which one? Non-carb lemonade. Yeah, bro. The pink or the regular? Regular. I like the pink lemonade. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Pink's good. Pink's good. They're both fucking great, but I got to drink them on ice. You could drink them warm, dude. Yeah. See, I like them. Ask me how I know. How?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Because we, I had to, I needed some energy and we only had a warm one and I fucking drink. It was still good. It was still good. Yeah, man. But yeah, let's make some people better. Guys, Andy, question number one. Hey, Andy. Me and my brother own an excavation company.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And we're wondering how, at what point in business, do you set tiers of leadership, executive managers, etc. We run about 40 employees and growing. I just love your advice on this. Is there like a ratio of leaders to lead-es? You know, I bet there's people. to have a certain formula for that, like X amount of people for this amount of leaders. But at the end of the day, you know, you got to find out what works for your particular
Starting point is 00:05:41 organization. And, you know, I wouldn't say there's a quote unquote time, but in terms of like, okay, we've got 10 people or 12 people or 40 people or whatever, but you have to pay more attention to what's actually going on. Okay. When you are leading a small group, it is very easy to lead a small group because the communication comes from your mouth directly to their ears and there's no game of telephone in between, right? There's no delusion of message or standards. Yeah. As you grow, when you get, you know, 20, 30, 40 people and you're not able to talk to all of them at the same time or get all of their ears at the same time, now you're in a position where you're starting to depend on other leadership inside your organization to take up that cause
Starting point is 00:06:33 and make sure that they're leading. Now, the best way to do this is that as you start, you know, like excavation, for example, like a lot of people think that that's just hopping on an excavator or a piece of equipment and doing work, right? Most excavation companies operate that way. But if I were building an excavation company, and let's say I just started and I had 20 or 30 guys, what I would do is I would make leadership training part of the training. So I would have off-site trainings that, you know, you paid the guys to be at,
Starting point is 00:07:10 where you talk to them about leadership and you explain to them, hey, this is what we're trying to do. This is where we're going with the company. These are the opportunities as we grow. And I need some of you guys to step up as leaders so that we could scale that out because it's impossible to scale without good leadership. So making leadership, training part of whatever you do inside your organization is a must from the beginning if you want to
Starting point is 00:07:37 scale from inside out if you want to hire in leaders that's a different thing it takes money first of all but second of all a lot of times when you hire in leaders there's no rapport built between the new leader and the people who have been there so there's not much respect and it creates issues so growing the culture either that's right growing your leaders from the inside and is super important to long-term culture because you want new people that come in over, let's say you're going to grow this excavation company into 500 employees. You want the new people to come in and see the success stories of the other guys who started, grew, escalated, and built a career inside your organization.
Starting point is 00:08:21 So while I wouldn't say there's an exact time or an exact method, now some people might have one. I don't think there is one. I've run many different companies in many different industries, and it's always been the same. You kind of need it from the beginning. You need to start cultivating it from the beginning. Your natural leaders, the people who pay attention to what it is that you're trying to do, the people who are bought in will escalate their skill set, which will help you scale out the brand.
Starting point is 00:08:48 But you want to start that way before you need it, not just when you need it. 100%. One thing I've learned when you talk about leadership. One of the things you've said before in a certain way, but it's like, you know, you don't just go out and here's the title of leader now. No. The peers kind of develop, okay, who's this guy? And then you give the title once they've acknowledged it. Yeah, leadership is not a title.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It's an initiative. It's a mandate. Yeah. It's something that you have to like recognize. And, you know, on Friday I talked about solutions people. Right. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Solutions people get paid. All right. And that's how it works in any organization. And what happens is as you start to paint the vision, as you start to move down, those, there's, there's people like that in every organization. You may not know them because you're not leaning on them to actually or empowering them to actually show that. But as you start to train, you'll see people buy in. They will start to escalate their skill set. They will naturally become someone who is very clearly taking control of what's going on. And then those people basically become, they go from peer leadership to recognize. recognize leadership. And that's a good way to do it because there's respect built there. Yeah. Yeah. I guess, you know, my next question on this, like, you know, a small company, like, you know, this guy's excavation company, you know, how important is it for him to be very hyper aware at the leaders? Because I feel like, you know, leadership, you can have great leaders
Starting point is 00:10:17 who are, you know, actually pushing shit the right way, but you could also have bad, you know, leaders of the peers that are fucking off doing the bullshit. That's absolutely a thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, dude, there are leaders just like there's people in life who use their natural abilities for not good things right and just because you think of leadership as something that leads towards the outcome that you're after if you have someone who learns leadership skills and is not bought into what you're doing they can very easily lead your guys off into the fucking wilderness where you don't want them that's right okay so it is extremely important to recognize who has influence
Starting point is 00:10:58 and what are they using it for and are they using it for good and those are going to be the people that lead and those people that are going to that you that have leadership skills that come in and are cancerous to your you have to fun get rid of those guys immediately
Starting point is 00:11:13 because they will use their natural ability to lead to turn into like a little coup you know what I mean inside your culture yeah so yeah last question leadership is a great conversation dude It's just because it's an ever-evolving skill set. It never ends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But I want to ask you, you know, let's go back to 2010, right? 2011 when, you know, your companies really started pushing, right? How, how easy or hard was it for you, right? Because, you know, it's like that saying, you know, like you want shit done right? You do it yourself. You know what I'm saying? How easy or hard was it for you transitioning into allowing others to carry the fucking ball down the field? It's very hard.
Starting point is 00:11:54 because when you're used to doing things yourself and you have a high standard for the way that things are to be done, it's very frustrating, especially in the beginning years because the stakes are higher, right? You have less tolerance for mistakes because there's less business. Your brand isn't established. Every dollar fucking matters, which by the way is how you should run your business regardless of what level it's at. But in the beginning, that's a real thing. Like it's not a made up thing. It's very important that you recognize that you can't scale without it. Can't scale with just your own two hands, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And a lot of entrepreneurs kill their growth because they refuse to allow other people any responsibility. And as a leader, what you have to look at when you're scaling out a company is what is your tolerance for the mistakes to be made and how do we view those mistakes through the proper perspective? And the proper perspective is that when someone makes a mistake, if they make it in good faith, like they made a mistake because they're trying to make the company better or they're trying to do a job right, that mistake should be looked at as an investment in their skill set. So you have to understand there needs to be an allowance for them to create, you know, mistakes. And then when they make them, you have to eat that, even if you knew the answer looking at it as a positive to their own development as a leader.
Starting point is 00:13:25 You follow me? 100%. So like if you had a company and let's say people keep making mistakes and you keep firing people for the same mistakes, they keep coming in and making the same mistake, right? So you have a guy who's invested a year or two and he makes a big mistake, but he did it with the right intention and you fire that guy. You're going to bring a guy in who's going to go for a year or two. When he gets that same point, he's going to make the same mistake.
Starting point is 00:13:51 and then you're starting with the same thing over and over and over again. So you have to have tolerance for their mistakes to a level of which it's looked at as a deposit into their education. Now, if they make big, like you should never allow people the enough leeway for them to make mistakes that will like crush the company, right? you want to limit their capacity to hurt the company with what they're able to handle but you also want to give them the freedom to make some of those decisions right so it's like there's a nuance there yeah you also mentioned too like how you respond to those mistakes that are made too is important because if you shut it down and you fucking you know maybe it depends it depends it depends on what it was if the mistake is made in good intent that's a coaching point if the
Starting point is 00:14:50 mistake is made out of laziness, that's when you fucking, you know, do what leaders got to do sometimes. Hammer down, baby. Yeah. You know, dude, you can't tolerate fucking bullshit, bro. You can't do it. You cannot tolerate it. Like, the reason most companies fail is because their standards are fucking, they allow the
Starting point is 00:15:09 standard of the owner to be diluted to a point where they just accept mediocre work. And they end up failing. So. you know, your standards have to be protected and they have to be protected aggressively. And any person who's ever won any business ever, whether it's a small business, medium business, large business, sports team, organization, whatever, their standards are high and those standards are consistent and they are monitored by the leadership and they are they are enforced. And if you do a really good job building culture, the culture will.
Starting point is 00:15:48 enforce those standards itself. You won't have to. Yeah. Going back to the importance of raising those leaders in. Right. Yeah. I love it, man. Guys, Andy, question number two. Andy, I'm 28 and I've landed a job as president of a smaller oil field service company. How do I network with people that are older than me? Most people are 50 plus and similar roles. And same from my client's age. Most of their kids are my age. I feel like this is more of a how do I get the respect of the older old OGs in the group you get the respect by being good okay your respect doesn't come from your fucking age it doesn't come from your title it doesn't come from what school you went to it doesn't come from the experience you had it comes from
Starting point is 00:16:34 if you're able to put put up when everybody's watching that's what respects about and you got to earn it every single time dude you go it doesn't matter what you did for 20 years okay if you don't come in the room and fucking show them what the fuck you're all about, you're not going to have the respect. Respect is always earned all the time. So when you're a young person and you're trying to make an impact with older people, you have to earn that respect by being good at what you do, by being a hard worker. And if you're if you're doing those things, like if you're outworking all the old guys, which isn't hard, it's not hard.
Starting point is 00:17:11 They're all fucking set in their ways. They're all, they all cut corners. It's all, this is the way we do. things. I mean, dude, you can run circles around old people because, dude, old people have stopped giving a fuck. Does that come with his own headaches, though? You know what I'm saying? Like the, you know, the young buck showing up the older guy. Who cares? Yeah. Why you care about that? Yeah. I don't give a fuck. Get better. Yeah. Hell yeah. And I'm ready. I'm ready. Hell Yeah, bro. That motherfuckers don't, they don't, they don't give a fuck about you, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:40 They, they, they, they, they, they, oh, don't work so hard. You're fucking making us all look bad. well get better like that see and that's another thing they'll respect that like they respect that when you when you first get into a group and everybody's and this is this is why people have such a hard time leading they get in and this is not do this is not dedicated to this question exactly this is just in general when you insert yourself in a group and you try to lead it you you understand that you're fighting an uphill battle automatically because that group has its ways that they do things, whether it's the right way or not. When you come in and people start, like, pressuring on you, like, hey, that's not the way we do
Starting point is 00:18:23 things. And your response is, I don't give a fuck how you used to do things. This is how the fuck we're doing things now. They might go bitch in the corner and they might not like it, but they're going to fucking respect that. And that is a natural thing with humans. Humans respect people when they know that those people are holding the line that they're supposed to hold, whether they voice it or not. So if you really want the respect of older people
Starting point is 00:18:49 in an organization, earn it by being great. It is that simple. Don't take any shit. Don't let them fucking influence you. Don't let them talk you into being mediocre. Don't let them talk you into cutting corners. When they try to, you say, hey, you might do shit that way. That's not how the fuck I do shit. And by the way, on our team, we're doing shit my way. Okay? Leadership takes assertiveness. And if you don't have the courage and the fortitude to look
Starting point is 00:19:18 someone in the eye and be like, I don't give a fuck how you used to do things. We're doing them this way. Now, then you can't lead. Can't lead. How hard was that for you? Because I'm trying to like a mad. It's not hard. Well, I'm saying. Like, I mean, you started when you were 19. You know what I'm saying? Going in these meetings and shit with people like...
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, everybody's older than me. Everybody. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure at one point you had employees that were still fucking older than you yeah you know what I'm saying but yeah you just like was that never like you just never had an issue with that like you never had no I did because people no there's issues with it because people who are fucking low IQ they think that because they're a certain age that they are better than you at the thing yeah in life just because I've been living and it's like dude well if you're so good at life why the fuck you still doing this right you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:20:08 Right. So you get a lot of that shit. And dude, when you, you know, when you're dealing with people who have low IQ and they think, well, I'm like, think of how stupid this argument is. I'm older than you. So I'm, I'm more important than you. I'm better than you. I'm no. I'm, I know more than you. Right. This is this, this, this. It's all irrelevant shit, dude. It's low IQ shit. Like, I never had a problem with it because the truth of the matter is is our asses were always on the line. And if my ass is on the line, I don't really give a fuck what your perception of me is. Yeah. I don't care if you're old, young, in between. It doesn't matter. We're getting this done. Okay. And that is,
Starting point is 00:20:48 that is something that when your ass is on the line, for real, and this is how you could tell a lot of people that ask these kinds of questions, their asses aren't really on the line. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, bro, if your ass is on the line, you don't care if someone's five years older than you or 10 years older
Starting point is 00:21:04 and you do the fucking job or get the fuck out of here. 100%. do. Yeah. Now, on this piece, you know, you got a young buck in this situation. What's something he shouldn't do, though, in this situation? Try to overly assert and flex on them. That is something that young people tend to do. You know, they think that, quote unquote, it's about being the boss. So they'll come into an organization where people are maybe a little bit older than them. And they'll start, like, trying to flex that authority as an inappropriate times. And that's what loses the respect of people like that.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You know what I mean? Yeah. The goal is a gain of respect. Yeah. Period. Yeah. Yeah. See, dude, in those situations, sometimes a lot of young people will try to, they'll try
Starting point is 00:21:50 to assert leadership as opposed to earning respect. And there's a complete different thing. Yeah. Okay. Yes, you need to assert yourself. But you need to do so when it's appropriate. And a lot of young people, what they do is they get in pissing contest. This is very common amongst men, too.
Starting point is 00:22:08 they want to show the older men that they are in charge so they will try to get those guys to do things that they necessarily like really don't need to do just to like prove the point of I'm being in charge and that's where you lose the fucking respect right 100% you don't misuse your leadership capital yeah or play the game ever I want to be liked yeah that's not that's not you shouldn't be thinking that yeah being like and being effective or two different things
Starting point is 00:22:38 And you don't have to not be liked to be effective. And in fact, the more effective you are, the more they're going to like you. That's what people don't understand. It's like when I talk about leadership. Leadership isn't about what they're going to say about you tonight when they go home. Leadership's not about what they're going to say, you know, this month because you've been in a bad, you know, it's been hard and you've been up their ass, right? That's not leadership. Leadership's what they're going to say five years from now.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Okay. And if you get someone to fucking win, they're going to fucking think highly of you later. So if you really want to be liked and loved, you're going to demand the best out of that person every single time. And that's what leadership's about. Leadership is about making them better so that we collectively can get to an outcome that we're all trying to get to. And it's that simple. But where it gets confusing for people is when they start to make it more complicated, they start to think it's a bunch of different things. Or, you know, sometimes young leaders will be like, well, nobody.
Starting point is 00:23:38 made me the leader. No, you made yourself the leader. And leaders are self-made. They're not anointed. They're not picked. They're fucking self-made. They materialize. You understand? They show up. And then you're like, that's the guy. So the leadership from an entrepreneur, an employee standpoint, is the leadership is taken. It's not granted. And that's where people get get confused, right? Yeah. They think that like, I've got to come around and say, oh, well, you're, you're in charge. No.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Take charge. And then the, the people will come along and they'll say, okay, well, you're in charge because you're already in charge. Yeah, he's our guy. Right. Yeah. I love it, dude. Love it. Guys, Andy, our third and final question.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Question number three. Andy, I have a prospective client that I've been in talks with for over a month. the contract idea has been laid out and the client has been receptive of it however they are dragging their feet we will go days without a reply from them how do i motivate the client to move forward without coming across desperate or overbearing read what was the first part of the question again prospective client he's been in talks with for over a month about signing this contract and they've been dragging their feet how do you come off how do you motivate them to sign without coming across desperate or overbearing well first of all first of
Starting point is 00:25:02 all months, not a long time. It's not really that long. It takes people sometimes to some time to make decisions. You know, there's a number of things you could do to increase urgency. You know, you can, and by the way, what I'm about to say has to happen before you get to this point. Okay. So the more familiar people are with you, the less in demand you're going to be. Okay. So, when you make yourself available to the point of I'm always available, people don't respect that. Okay, they don't respect your time. They don't respect, you know, really anything because they're like, well, they're just waiting on me to do this. While that's a good place to be as a business owner, it also creates the scenario that you're in.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So one of the best ways that you can eliminate this scenario from happening is to make your, yourself and your time valuable perception-wise before you get to this point that we're at, okay? Which means you have to set that precedent in the first conversation, the second conversation, right? Yeah. Hey, man. Here's the proposal.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I've got an opening. I can do it now. But if I can't do it now, I'm not going to be able to do it until fucking July, which is six months away. Okay, that could create some urgency. Dude, that's incredible. Like, if I'm thinking about that, that's incredible. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:32 No, it's just basic psychology. That's crazy. What? Like, because, like, I mean, I feel like on one hand, like, you know, like you, like you are fucking desperate. Like, I need this shit to go, but you have to like, like, that's like, bro, that's crazy. Well, I mean, do you want people to fucking buy your shit or not? Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Okay. And do people want to buy shit from someone who's just waiting for them to do? Or do they want to buy from the guy who's in demand? Yeah. Sometimes you got to make that perception happen. Sometimes you got to fucking razzle dazzle that. All right. So another thing you could do now, since you're already in the situation is you can try that move a little bit differently.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And you can call them and you could say, hey, look, I know we've been talking about this for a month. I just want to give you a heads up. I've only got this much time to do this job. I'm kind of putting all everything else on hold for this. I need to know if you want to do it or not. Now you don't have to tell me right now, but I'm going to need to know in the next week or so if you want to do it. Otherwise, I'm not going to be able to get to it until X. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Okay. But that, and that can work, but that, it works better when you set the precedent up front, right? Does that make sense? There's a lot of ways. It makes so much. Yeah. There's a lot of ways to create urgency when you're selling that, you know, to create this urgency that we're talking about. But ultimately, to solve the problem permanently, so you don't keep running into this problem,
Starting point is 00:28:05 is that you have to set that table up front. You got to set those expectations up front. You got to let them know, even if they're your only fucking client, you got to let them know that your fucking time is valuable. And you've got to do that by setting that precedent in the first conversation. Okay. And don't fucking, you'll fuck it up if you don't commit to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:26 You know what I'm saying? Like if they think you're full of shit You're gonna gonna laugh at you right right but but dude if you do it in a professional way It's it's it's pretty effective fuck dude that that's incredible though I don't I don't know I think it's pretty basic It I mean yeah but like bro that is fucking incredible like I've never even like that's crazy Well dude I mean think about who you want to spend okay let's just hypothetical yeah all right Let's say you want your kitchen done right all right you just got your kitchen remodeled I did it was a fucking it was hell Yeah that sucks
Starting point is 00:28:57 So let's say you have two guys bidding the job, and the one guy is basically giving you off like desperate vibes. Like, hey, man, are you ready? Are you ready? I can be there tonight. Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay. And you appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:29:13 You appreciate that. Well, let's say the other guy has set this level of urgency up front. And let's say he's more money. This is how you could sell for more money too. And let's say he's a little more money. and you're kind of dragging your feet because you're like fuck dude I'm not sure and then the fucking second guy calls you
Starting point is 00:29:33 and he says hey dude look it's time to shit or get off the pot in respectful way yeah yeah yeah um you're gonna go with that second guy most of the time yeah you know what I mean 100% you're because the perception is that you're gonna get a better quality job right
Starting point is 00:29:49 right now I think the value too it's like you know you're almost playing it it's like you know dude I got I'm booked up for the next fucking three months man so it's like you know it's now we're yeah yeah i don't know what class is going to be like that yeah but yeah but dude there's other benefits to that too so if you create the expectation that it's hard to work with you and then you get the job and then you do the job now you've set a post job job word of mouth story that is worth them telling which is bro i got you listen i got this guy i don't
Starting point is 00:30:26 know if you can get him because he's booked up all right but I know him and maybe I can get him to do your shit too but he's fucking awesome okay and he doesn't do everybody and I don't even know if I can get him now all of a sudden that guy wants the that wants it so bad and that's what we're talking about yeah fuck dude that's incredible yeah fuck same way you pick up chicks just for you young guys yeah like like yeah for like you for like you for like you for like you young dudes, you know, the more into man you make yourself, the more scarce you make yourself, the more girls are going to want to talk to you. So, but you can't do that because you're fucking so desperate for the pee.
Starting point is 00:31:08 That's right. You can't even think it through. I can be there tonight. Yeah, we should, we should do a whole episode of just game for the boys. You know what I'm saying? I fucking love it. Yeah. I mean, real, like, real question for you, bro, like, because like, you just said, like,
Starting point is 00:31:21 well, it's pretty simple to me, you know what I'm saying? Like, why do, why is most shit just like, like, overly complicated. Like, why do they, why does it appear to be just so overly complicated? Why do you think it does? I don't know. Well, why do you think it's overly complicated? Huh?
Starting point is 00:31:37 No, no, no. That's not what he's saying. Yeah. I, bro, I genuinely, like, I feel like I do not know. I can't, like, I feel like, because, like, you say this? Okay. It's so simple. Why would anybody be confused about anything?
Starting point is 00:31:53 What confuses people in general? Too many fucking opinion Too much information Okay Okay So we have too much information Yeah On the internet
Starting point is 00:32:03 About from a bunch of people Who have never done a fucking thing Telling people How to run their businesses That's gonna confuse people Okay And this is why I tell you guys You have to be very careful
Starting point is 00:32:16 Who you listen to You have to like Do your due diligence And so it's very important To block out information from people who are playing a different game than you are playing. Or they have never played the game. So you've got to find someone who's kind of on a similar journey.
Starting point is 00:32:38 The real journey, which is I start with nothing and it takes a long time and it's very difficult and I have to go through all these challenges, whether they ran a, you know, a fucking snow cone company or an excavation company or a real estate. state company or fucking any kind of company, someone who's run a company for 20 years that's been successful, they're going to know all of these little things. Yeah. I learned that it actually is pretty fucking simple. It is super simple.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And what fucks it up is the amount of bullshit information. Unnecessary. It's confusing. Fucking goob. He's the out there. The unnecessary goob mess that's out there. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Oh, fuck, man. I mean, listen. If you're trying to walk from here to California and you open up your phone to like go on Instagram, make a post and say, how do I get to California? And you have 4,000 people telling you a different fucking thing. You know what's probably going to happen? You're probably not going to go. Probably do nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Right. So there's this thing called paralysis by analysis, which means, and there's also this other thing called the paradox of choice. But when you're presented with too many choices. The natural choice is to do nothing. And that that's the problem that we have with so much information. It's confusing and it causes paralyzation. I love it, man.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Well, I know somebody got better today. Guys, any of us? All right, guys. Let's go out there and have a good week. Don't be a hove. Show the show. Went from sleeping on the floor. Now my jury box froze.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Fuck a bull. Fuck a stole. Counted millions in a cold. Bad bitch, booted swole. Got her on bank row. Can't four. Just a no headshot case clow clow

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