REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 116. From Prison To The American Dream Ft. Craig Long

Episode Date: June 28, 2021

Success in America comes down to the decisions we make on a daily basis. On today’s episode, Andy and the crew are joined by Craig Long as they dissect American values, the importance of young leadership in our country and how to turn an unfavorable situation into an advantage in your life. LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:  Book Andy to Be on Your Podcast  Follow Andy on Instagram Follow Andy on Facebook Take complete control of your life - 75 HARD  Get my raw & uncensored advice about success & life delivered to you daily!  

What's up guys, it's Andy Frisella, this is the show for the realest, say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society. And welcome to motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have a full-length show. And we have a special guest. But before I introduce him and bring him on, I got a full crew here today. I got Sal. I still don't have a nickname for him. Most handsome guy in the room.

Yeah, that would be a lie. A nickname is supposed to be based in truth. So I got DJ. What's up? What's up, DJ? And then in truth. So I got DJ. What's up? What's up, DJ? And then I got Vaughn. Word. What's up, dude?

Word. The whitest dude in the room for sure. Literally. Yeah. Yeah, literally and figuratively and culturally. Very true. Are you getting attacked for your whiteness? Urban white, though.

Are you getting attacked for your whiteness? I am getting attacked for my whiteness. I'm so white that even the white people don't like me. I might have to my whiteness. I'm so white that even the white people don't like me. I might have to wear sunglasses, bro. I'm so white, even the white people don't like me. It's the truth of that, too. Yeah. We should call Sal Bulldog Sal.

That's right. I don't know what we should call him. I'll tag it. Moving screen. Moving screen. Well, I'm sure we're going to get to this eventually, but let's just straight out speak the truth and say that this show is already racist. Oh, yeah.

Can I just say that? Because I don't know what Madat was thinking, but he segregated us. Oh, yes. Like, we got the two white guys and the two black guys. Like, what were you thinking, Madat? I'm, like, in the middle. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That makes sense. You go either side. Yeah, yeah. You go either side. Dude, look. Look. Just so you guys know, if you're not a fan of social issues, this is not going

to be the show for you. Just letting you know. Some of you guys listen for motivation and business knowledge. We're going to hit on that today. Something that's going to be relevant to the discussion. But I've got my friend who a lot of you guys don't know yet, but you will know after the show, Craig Long here. He's from Tampa.

How you doing, bro? What's up? What's up? He's got a tremendous story and a lot to say. And basically, guys, I just want to bring on people who I think are doing a good job standing up for what they believe. And this man has done that. And so, dude, I am super happy to have you here and and get your

message out and kind of get your story out you have a credible story absolutely um it's an honor man yeah bro and it's you know it's an honor to have you because you have taken things in life that were not favorable um that were your own doing. And then had some realizations and turned it around. So dude, let's just start with where you come from, because literally most of these people don't know anything about you yet. So let's start back where you come from, bro. I grew up in North Virginia, close to DC.

Just to not get long winded. I'm an average American. I've been in and out of trouble since the age of 15. I went straight to jail, straight to prison. Didn't come home until 2009. I was 25 years old. All I had was $25 for a bus ticket and a paper ID. You name it, I've lived in people's couches. I've lived in my car. 180 degree turned my life around. It is true. Your decisions do determine where you end up in your life. My decisions in my earlier days, I lived a life of literally hell when I didn't really have to. And now living a life of making good decisions, applying myself to grow. My life took a major change, right? I'm another example of the American dream. The American dream is real, right? There's literally, there's nobody on the 13th floor collaborating

just to keep someone that looks like me down, right? There's no white supremacy, racist, white dust floating around that I could breathe in that will create me to have poor behavior or make bad decisions or why I fail, right? It's literally the decisions that you make in your life that will determine what your outcome is. And I'm an example of that. I'm an example of the American dream. So in a nutshell, that is who I am. I am a business owner to Tampa, Florida.

I am in Florida now on a gym. I've received all my civil rights back, like I was telling you, including my Second Amendment rights. So we do live in a country that has a scale. Right. If you make good decisions and you are able to show that you turn your life around like it will reward you. Right. So I just I want my inspirate my story to inspire people. I want my story to show people that, hey, nothing holds you back. Nothing out here in this world is geared to hold anybody back. If you know how to win and you apply

yourself, you will win. You will win. So in a nutshell, that's who I am. And I'm sure we'll get into the nuts and bolts as we go on. But'm craig long and i'm not gonna give it to you with a chaser i'm gonna give it to you real as fuck you know what i mean bro that's why you're here man look dude i i we enjoy bringing people on like the one thing i like about what we do here is we don't i don't care if you have 10 million followers if you're a fucking movie star or whoever you are or if you're just a regular dude out there grinding, I actually think that that's the more powerful message, in my opinion. You know, people need to see and hear what you're talking about because dude, you've

been down the negative path. You know, let's talk about that. You know, what, what, what got you put away for, for, for those, those years? Well, I Well, there wasn't no punk-ass charges. Like I stole a bubble gum. Yeah, right. I know. Or I was messing with, you know what I mean? You know, I was living a street life, man. Yeah.

I was out there. I caught up in that culture, which is a destructive culture. It's something that I'm constantly talking about. The destructive culture, the destructive behaviors. And I lived it. I got caught up in it. I was influenced by it. My, because of that culture and because of my decisions of choosing a life like that, right. It led me into doing prison time, a long exterior, extended period of time in prison. I went to prison. I shot two people. I lost my freedom. I lost all my rights because I shot people. Now, the people that I shot, did they deserve it at

the time? Absolutely. You know what I mean? Thank God I have another chance that people are still here. We won't go into detail of that, but the people are still here. And so I got another crack at life, right right and through that ordeal right prison is prison now i just want to clarify these were not just innocent people that you jacked running down these are not like i think what we hear on tv like a seven-year-old girl got shot um grandma down the street you got a ricochet this was a result of some criminal activity criminal activity criminals drive-bys you name it man like these people were some degenerates right you know what i mean just to

to give clarity to the people listening these people were some bad people um and at the time i wasn't i was a degenerate right i was an asshole right you know what i mean i was somebody you didn't want to run across at that time but But I always have been a good hearted person. But I made dumb decisions and it led me into prison. I did prison time. I didn't do some. I was at the jail for a couple. I did real time, man.

You know what I mean? Lifers, people that were on death row. What was that like for you? What was your experience in prison? Because, I mean, you see it on TV. I mean, i mean you know six days in they got a couple of it you get a glimpse of it right but i mean what what was that really like for you when you when you from because jail and prison is a big difference right like what when your first day in i mean what were you thinking what was going through your mind at that time um shit fuck i bet it was like oh i'll give you a back like they call it receiving this is where

they take you from jail and you're going up the road right up the road is you're going to prison sorry to interrupt but how old are you this time i literally just turned 37 no no how old are you oh at the time oh man i'm i'm still wet behind the ears man i just turned 18. No, no. How old are you at the time? Oh, man, I'm still wet behind the ears, man. I just turned 18, man. I'm wet behind the ears. So by the time I got to prison, I was about 19 years old, man. I hadn't even learned how to shave. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I left home, I want to say, around the age of 16, 17. I was out on my own, full-fledgedledged 100 out there in the streets man you know you figured man a 19 year old green wet behind the ears you think you're a badass you know you it's easy to be a badass when you have this big ass gun on you and you got all your homies and you're on the street and you guys are sticking together when you go into prison dude it's you know we see how the movies depict it right it's partially a lot of it is true yeah but there is a lot of stuff that goes on the prison it's another

world and that world is like you're amongst the wolves man and when you're amongst the wolves you have to live like a wolf um so the stuff in prison is uh i don't know where you guys want me to go with that. You know what I knew? I didn't want to go to prison. When I saw there was an HBO special on behind the scenes of prison when I was about 10. And there was a dude on there and it said, what's tossing salad? And this dude goes, tossing salad?

He goes, listen, there's only two ways to toss salad. That's where you get your your asshole ate and there's only two ways to do it with syrup and with jelly and i thought that i'm doing that shit i'll tell you a story um i had violent crimes so in virginia at this particular prison they did it based off color codes so if you have violent crimes, you're going to, you're, they do it in pods and tiers. So if you had like, you had robbery and things like that, you would be downstairs pod.

But if you were considered a red code, which was high violent, like you were violent, you've been in trouble at the jail, you're fighting, they put you at a high, you're more at a high risk so they put you upstairs in the top tiers with the lifers people that have double homicides people never

going home like the shit you would see on tv man like no no joke some of the biggest jokers that are the most feminist jokers you know what i mean like you just don't want to mess it's jokers that are the most feminist jokers. You know what I mean? Like, you just don't want to mess, it's wild. the jelly type guys. The jelly. They literally look like big, um,

Vin Rhymes jokers. You know what I mean? Like, holy shit. Yeah. They've been lifting weights since they came out the womb. You know what I mean? I remember. It's a fucking grape jelly. You stay the fuck away. out the wound. You know what I mean? I remember.

You guys walk around with some fucking grape jelly. You stay the fuck away. Stay the fuck. Thank God they can't run. He's too big. That's hilarious. That dude's got a utility belt on with a fucking strawberry and a grape. And a serve in the back.

Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. Hey, stay away from that dude. Seriously. Seriously, man. I remember my first day when they finally told me, you're going upstairs to the top tier. You're upstairs with the lifers, the violent crimes, murder, double homicide, right? So you have this big metal box, the tote is what they call it. You got your mesh bag with all your linen and things like that.

And they have these big power doors that go right and you got to go in and then it closes behind you but as you're going in you hear just pure chaos people are talking slamming bones arguing it's and but remember you're not on the street anymore there's no more weapons your homeboys aren't there you're there and you're green you're coming from the jail lack of your malnutrition you don't you're skinny as hell everybody's like well thick and ready to go they've been lifting and working out and all i read i hear, so it was time to open the door to get me into the pod, and all I remember is the door going, and it was literally, and you can hear a mouse fart, like, that's how quiet I went, right, and I was like, holy shit,

the box is heavy, I got all this shit, and I'm like dragging the box and everybody's got this if looks could kill stare at you and I just thought to myself holy shit what the what the fuck did I just get myself into I have to figure out how to get the hell out of this right no lie dude scared to death yeah I thought I was a badass no man scared to death dude that's got to be a crazy feeling dude because i guarantee you you learned your fucking lesson right there already now you got all this time to fucking deal with it yeah you know i'm saying i thought i was a badass man i've gotten plenty fights in there yeah they have they have this thing called store boxes where you're like running an enterprise it's like a little business you try to start you want a honey bun one for two i'm

gonna give you my honey bun i want two back and i remember trying to start a store box and the dude i had a dude buck on me right like i'm not paying you shit get it how you live and i was like oh shit this is it i gotta this is what this is where i start my clean this is where they find out if i'm one of the punk asses well i'm somebody's gonna stand up from i remember man dude was bit he was kicking my ass slamming me but i just was relentless man i they would count time will come they break us up when they're ready to release us out again into the pot i was going back to fight him and it got to the point where the guy was like his boys was like man, here's the shit he owes. Let's just leave this shit alone.

Right. And even though I was getting my ass whooped, it kind of created a respect level. For sure. This is a guy that's going to stand up for himself, which which is funny. Later on, as the years go by, I actually get into it with the same guy. But this time I'm like healthy. Noodles and noodles and shit. I'm like, yeah.

Syrup and jelly. I'm like,. I've been eating noodles and noodles and shit. I'm like, yeah. Syrup and jelly. I'm like, let's go. Got all the fast cars. I'm like, yeah, let's go now, motherfucker. So it's weird how that world works. You know what I mean? But I learned a lot, man. I learned a lot being in that situation.

So prison is something. So dude, you get out of jail, right? Like you do all this time you get out. You've got, what'd you say, 100 bucks uh they give you 25 25 bucks 25 bucks to buy a bus ticket now what you're literally deposited back into society yeah with nothing with nothing literally nothing yeah what was your family support like during that time um so me and my father were already rocky yeah like i my i hadn't talked to my father in like three and a half years like it's one of those like i had a beef with him but i always respect him right right like that's something that the bible says you

should always honor and respect your father and your mother and i always will honor my father and my mother but we were beefing before I went into prison. And I knew that I did not want to go back. I needed to change the surroundings of where I lived. So I decided instead of going back to Virginia, I'm going to be released to North Carolina where my father was living. So I went to transition at my father.

I think Ied two months. And then I left to go with an ex-girlfriend that I used to be with before I went to prison. So the support was, it was there. But even with the support, I still really had to work hard. Really, really had to work hard. Well, it's a whole new environment. You got a new set of rules you gotta try to follow, right?

You probably just finished adjusting to the prison rule and now you got to- I had to relearn everything. Relearn everything. I think the best thing, if we use cell phones, the flip cell phone with the panda bear, black and white panda bear was like the hottest thing you could have. To coming home, you have Facebook and all these different things. And then the phone rings in the car. And I'm like, holy shit, the phone's ringing in the car. So it was kind of a culture shock for me, but I didn't let it stop me, man. I mean, challenge after challenge after challenge, I had to overcome it. So Craig, back in, I'd say probably 2004 2005 i spent an afternoon in the riley county jail oh really so i knew before i ever researched it i could see that you'd been in a clink i had that

kind of connection with you get the fuck out of here dude real recognize real you know what i'm saying yeah yeah but But in all seriousness, here's my question for you. We were talking a little bit. He's fucking hard. This motherfucker's hard as nails. He's going in real. I was like, well, see what he's got.

He was underselling Bibles. That's what he went in for. You guys talking about jelly and syrup. I'm talking about almond butter right here. That is hilarious. No, but in all seriousness, so you were talking a little bit before we actually... New meaning to the word nut butter, huh? No, but we were talking a little bit before we started recording. You were talking about

kind of your family background, that kind of thing. And I think you'd be the first to say nothing forced you into the decisions that you made. No. There were no factors that compelled you to do that. But I'm curious, what were the lies that you believed or embraced that led you to make those bad choices? Can you clarify more about what you mean by lies? Yeah, like, I mean, what really was the impetus for you deciding, okay, well, I've got a mom and dad. I know a little bit about the Bible in terms of honoring my mom and dad. So it sounds like you

had a little bit of a solid foundation. What were the factors that kind of contributed to you going down that path? And that's a good question. That's something I often try to critique, if I could go back so that I can connect with other, with youth that may be going through that transition. Maybe they've gotten in trouble or something. And I, you know, we all hear like this right now in our society, how important fathers are. Right. And, you know, I have a father, but my mother and father, they went through a divorce. Right. So my, even though I had a great father that was always a father, he was not there per se. Like if you had a father that was always there. But when he was there, he he instilled certain values and principles in me.

So me taking that path was more so a decision on my part. But I guess my they raised me to they've always raised me to work hard. Right. So the, the, if I were to say lies, lies in a sense of, um, like let's say the whole black thing, like, oh, you're black. And because you're black, you got to really, really work your ass off because, man, they don't want to see, nobody wants to see you excel and this, that, and the third. So if I were to say that's a lie, that is one of the lies that I would say as far as just society per se. Another lie would be people constantly, no matter what color you are, people constantly would say, oh, you can't do something.

Or, oh, man, you're done now. You're a felon. You ain't going to be able to get your gun rights back. You're done. Oh, life is going to be so hard for you, man. You're going to have to just get a construction job. That kind of lie. Right, right.

Which obviously I've defied all of those um lies thus far so like your mistakes define you from here on out yeah like like that's it you got a black cloud you're gonna be a black sheep now i think they start that now they're starting i mean like if we're being we're gonna have an honest conversation this is where we get into the crt stuff you know they look they look at black children and they let the people who trust them the most their parents their teacher or i'm sorry the people they look up to for guidance parents teachers uh school officials okay athletes and that big athletes like the gatekeepers of how can we we can't look and i'm getting way ahead of myself here, but the truth is that, dude,

society creates this scenario where black children do not believe they have the opportunity to win. And if you convince a child, no matter what color, that they cannot do something because their pigment is different than, I mean, bro, first of of all are we that primitive of a species where we are literally evolved from fucking who knows how long we're still arguing over the pigment of people's skin yeah it's unfortunate it's fucking dude it's so elementary and primitive that if you really think about it, it's sad. It's sad that we do that in this country. And now we have these systemic things like CRT, which we want to talk about real systemic racism.

The real systemic racism is looking at a black child or a brown child and saying, you can't be anything because you were born here looking like that or on the flip side telling a little white child there's something wrong with they're inherently going to be racist just because they're correct dude that it's crazy it's fucked up i argue with these people constantly yeah online they think that everybody white is racist inherently like if you had a child the moment that the child is born it's a racist child because they're white. It's like, that is pure evil and hatred. Like, that's like, what? I watch my son walk in that classroom.

I don't give a shit if you're black, white, pink, purple, boy, girl. They just go in and play. Yeah, exactly. The kids don't know what the hell is going on. They don't look at things at that lens. And I guess to go into your question, that's the lie oh because you're black you gotta work so much harder but guess what you're white and you gotta work so much harder this spanish guy over here he he's got to work so much everybody has to work so much harder if you want to be actually be anything

that's the thing that gets lost craig is like dude we it's it's hard for fucking everybody it's not easy for anybody and dude are there scenarios still in this country where a black person may be treated differently than a white person yeah there probably are but i would argue that those scenarios are based off of previous experiences it's a personal bias correct so like if you have a police officer who is uh a little nervous because he's got three black males in front of him well the reason he's fucking nervous is because he's been in this situation before and things have happened usually or they happen to their partner correct so we and we talked about this on the black square episode you know if we really want to fix shit we have to fucking all grow the fuck up and say, hey, dude, this ain't about black or white or brown or red or yellow or anything.

This is about us being good people and good individuals and taking the leadership in all of our communities and teaching them the right things. Whether I'm a white man and, you know, speaking to my little circle of people or you as a black man, you're speaking to the people that you influence. The way to fix this shit guys is that we all have to say, Hey, we're not buying this shit no more. And we're going to be above it and we're going to teach the right things and be the right thing. Yeah.

Be the example. Yeah. The problem right now though, is that we're trying to create solutions for things that aren't really problems. Right. And then the things that are really problems we ignore yeah right so so one of the things that really caught me off guard have you guys seen the new trailer for the movie karen have you seen that i haven't seen it so well i want to touch on it because you you've actually you've talked about it but so this new movie is coming out called karen and so

basically it's creating this idea that every single black person that buys a house in a white neighborhood is going to get attacked by a white person right like that's the overarching theme of this what's the move what's that's the propaganda so what's the movie about it's about a black family moving into an all-white neighborhood and their next door neighbor karen let me tell it how this is real as fuck let me tell you how this shit is man the karen movie is about a racist white karen is they call her karen she gets a new black couple in their neighborhood and she's apparently she's racist and she starts terrorizing and trying to kill their neighbor. Brother's a cop. But if the brother's a cop, but it's propaganda. So she gets him to harass these people, too?

Like all of them are in on it. They're terrorizing black folks. It's all the propaganda. That's going to create a healthy fucking. It does not help. It's racially charged. It's antagonistic. It's more propaganda and it's stereotyping.

I bet it doesn't get banned from Twitter and Facebook. Oh, absolutely not. And this is theistic. It's more propaganda and it's stereotyping. I bet it doesn't get banned from Twitter and Facebook. Oh, absolutely not. And this is the thing. Like, we live in a country where freedom of speech, yeah, you can express it,

do whatever you want to do, but it doesn't necessarily mean you should do it. But hey, you have the freedom to do it. But how would the same people that say they want equality,

the social justice warriors, right? The people that are running around with the black squares and they're pumping their fists in the air and they're all the black love and pro-black and all that stuff, right? Do you notice that most of those people are fucking white, right?

I know. Dude, I know. I see them out there washing people's fucking feet. Can you imagine that shit? They're washing people's funky ass feet. Don't touch me. Pumping their fists in the air with solidarity. You should see the fucking reviews we get, bro.

I get these reviews. You're getting ready to get some reviews. Remember the one of... Oh, bro. I don't fucking care. Fucking bring me the reviews, bitch. I don't give a fuck. Dude, we laugh at them.

So just remember that. When you fucking dog me, I'm sitting in my gym, probably just got on my fucking Ferrari, and me and DJ are fucking laughing at it. We're laughing at it. So, dude, remember that one we got a few weeks ago where that dude was like, or the woman was like, yeah, just another white guy who talks about how he has black friends. And then, but then they go on and they fucking read it and you could tell it's coming from a white person.

Like, and it's like, bro, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Right. None of the hate that I ever get for talking about these things ever, ever, ever. It's always white, cushy liberals who grew up middle class or upper middle class who and dude, the truth is they feel guilty for them not having any resistance. So they got a warrior for everybody else's shit. Right. And like, dude, y'all motherfuckers need to shut the fuck up because you don't have any

real experience. You don't you don't even know what it's really like you've never been out there in the real world yep and dude we're fucking tired of it that's the biggest thing right because the narrative it can be scary right so like seeing that movie karen right if let's say this was pre i bought my house right then the movie came out and i saw that movie it would probably scare the shit out of me right but the truth is it's gonna shape some people's mind yeah i mean it's gonna fuck with some people similar i mean you just moved into a prime a primarily why you have a care so that's the thing it's like it's like but so you hear this narrative but go step into the real world let's stop let's so you have a real perspective on this right dj dj for real when i met dj one of his goals and by the way i'm super

proud of this dude because he's a fucking hard-ass worker he fucking has lost 50 fucking something pounds since we started training oh bro bro this motherfucker was fat yeah i was bad it was bad he's just chubby all right we're working on it and and i'm slim thick that's right slim thick it's a bit it's fucking sexy that's right so dude and that's the look right now bro that is the look so warmth yeah that's right in the summer that's right bro so this dude comes in he's got all these goals right and like you know i don't know this dude from anybody i'm he's telling me all this shit and i'm looking at him he's 350 i'm like yeah right you know whatever this motherfucker tells me he's like he had just gotten his uh his his fiance they were having a baby and he's like

yeah dude i'm getting my shit together and i'm like yeah yeah yeah because like dude when i see somebody who's overweight like that i know i know i've been that i've been 350 i've been the guy who says man i'm gonna get my shit together for 10 years straight right you know what i'm saying like i've been that dude so i kind of didn't take it seriously you know no offense to you but like i hear this shit everywhere and you know sure as fuck dude weight's coming off shit's coming together dude gets himself a fuck he never lived in a house before his entire life we went to we went and see dude people don't know this about you they think that you live some cush shit this motherfucker grew up with with a one-parent household in the worst neighborhood

in fucking st louis and if you don't say louis st louis is a murder capital per capita of the united states terrible place okay for crime, wonderful people, bad leadership. Um, that's my take on St. Louis, by the way, running for mayor next year. So I'll fix this shit. But here's the thing, you know, we, we drive down to see where, you know, David Dorn, uh, the police officer that got killed when the riots were happening this past year. Yeah. So, so we went down to pay our respects we got to talking about where we each come from and where we you know where he comes from where i come from etc etc yeah and this dude has never lived in a house before never lived in

a house always apartments his whole life i couldn't fucking like to me that was the one thing that blew my mind i'm like fuck dude imagine never ever ever like he's a homeowner now yeah that's right a big accomplice and in a fucking white neighborhood yeah or do they treat you bad or i i get so much peaceful ain't it well like my next door let's be real bro that's the thing like bro i don't have no fucking potholes on my street there's no fucking trash in the gutters i I mean, like, you got HOA fees now. I do have HOA fees. But bro, nobody's fucking with you. Oh, no, bro. Listen,

our next door neighbor. That's because I ain't turned the troops on yet, son. The KKK troops are coming to get you. Did anybody, like, knock on your door and welcome you with, like, pound cake? Bro, so listen, I swear to God, it's so no shit. So the day we're moving in, right? Like, we're moving in, right? We're moving in. We're bringing shit in the house.

And we get a fucking knock on the door. You're like, oh, shit. Here it comes. Oh, shit. He's got his piece. So I open the door. And this is the white lady. And she has this fucking cup of a little tray of cupcakes.

That's it. And it blew my mind. Because I'm like, bro, I've seen this shit in the movies you know what I'm saying this is real this is interesting I fucking I take those cupcakes

and we go in the kitchen and we like Alex is like she's like babe should we eat them like do you think we should eat them like are they

I'm like hey listen I'm like listen if this if this is gonna take me out I'm gonna let it fucking take me out I fucking ate it it's the best fucking cupcake

I ever had in my life and now me and her husband we compete for who has the best lawn like dude it's beautiful it's like so you're doing real white bro bro listen the flag is flying my fucking stripes are getting on point you know what i'm saying white stripe yeah i just white new balance i gotta get the new balances i ain't there yet i got you but i got the gas grill by my point is though it's like so you hear these these narratives that come out right and it's the same analogy that I gave. I might have been a black square, too. Right.

It's like you're sitting inside your house in this box and somebody comes in every fucking day in the room. So they don't go outside. It's raining. Right. Like, OK, cool. I don't want to get wet. And the next day they come in. Hey, bro, listen, you go outside. It's a fucking thunderstorm. Don't go out there. There's fucking tornadoes. You don't go outside. And they come in the next time, bro. There's a fucking hurricane. But then you look at him like you're not even fucking wet right and so so you you go outside of that narrative you go you step outside and it's fucking beautiful right like

and so like that's how you have to challenge those narratives and so this this thing about the fucking karen movie it really bothers me because that's gonna hold a lot of people back from even fucking attempting to be homeowners right and the reality is is you go in those situations gonna be fucking 10 times better than what you're the bullshit that you're dealing with right now like where we came from on the loft that was downtown in st louis we had protests up and down our street people were breaking fucking windows bro there were shootings on the street every fucking every night i said i've sent you videos where like they were fucking carjackings right in front of my house you You know what I'm saying? It's stereotyping.

And it's not healthy, especially with the climate that we have right now in our society. It's stereotyping. And what's funny, these social justice warriors, these gatekeepers of the world that are already successful to tell a whole nother group of people. Right. We all know life and death is in the tongue. You can speak life over somebody, but you can also speak death. And it's funny that these gatekeepers, these people that are already successful, these grifters, they always speak death over other people saying, oh, there's something systemic. There's something that's holding you back because of the color of your skin.

So when you see these type of poetic artwork displayed througharen it's so it's so much stereotype and propaganda you have to ask these people hey it's wrong wrong is wrong would you like it if they made a movie a white director made a movie called shakwisha a angry black racially charged woman is willing to fight you in any fast food restaurant or airport it's stereotyping and then it's just wrong so i can't stand that movie i can't stand that that this is happening in our country well i think that craig too bro i think the important point of this is you we have to understand this isn't just art it's not just art no it's not this is strategically that's correct so so you know we when you when we sit here and we talk about fuck it's wrong well it's only wrong based on our value

system yep it's not wrong based on the value system of saying hey we need to create some stuff so that this keeps the division going so that we can that's exactly correct because dude you guys whether you're black white left right it i don't give a fuck, by the way. I don't care. There's a lot of people from the left listening to this show. I consider myself part of the middle. The left don't consider me that. They consider me far right.

Because everybody's far right that doesn't agree with the narrative 100%. I'm okay with that, too. I don't really give a fuck what you guys think. My job here and what I strive for is solutions and coming together in unity. And dude, we cannot do that when we have people who are constantly fear-mongering and throwing a message to people. Because bro, you can't, let's just take your example, DJ. You know, you have someone, let's just say, who's told a certain thing their whole life. And then, you know, they start to see a little bit, you're like, oh, fuck, dude. I don't know.

This doesn't seem right. And then all of a sudden you got this movie or that propaganda or this message coming from LeBron James or this or that or this. You're like, see, I knew that shit was true. So it's like, it's very dangerous for us not to question what the purpose is for the information that we're receiving, no matter where you are, whether you're a black man or a white man or a brown man, or like, to me, I don't give a fuck what you are. I see everybody the same as Americans. And I wish we would get, we're moving away from that. I think the last couple of years, I actually think at this moment right now we are actually moving towards that for the first time that i've been able to notice because i see a lot of people who are frustrated with the politics i mean we fucking all are bro every

single one of us bro we all know we all know that when we go out in the real world and we go to the store or we go to here, we go to that. Most people are good. Most. Yeah. And dude, they're feeding this shit down our throats so that in my opinion, and this is what I see, I'm pretty good strategic thinker to keep certain segments of the population where they are so that they can continue to get the vote for them you know what i mean like bro like you can't vote for hey we're gonna fix all these problems if there's not any fucking problems so we have to create the problems to create the vote to create these guys power and when we think about it like that it makes perfect sense well i mean andy it's every election all we always hear is these campaigns vote or die vote or die right and it's like we need change we need change

but i'm just going to talk about me the black community yeah it's very monolithic right 97 percent clip votes for the same party every single time. Right. And it's like these people are always saying we need change. We need change. But they keep voting for the same party. Which most of these states expecting a different outcome, expecting a different outcome. Most of these states are blue states. Right. Ran by black mayors. Ran by they have black police chiefs. Some of these inner cities have predominant black police officers.

So it's like, hey, you keep putting the same political party that you want changed. It's the same one that you guys keep voting for in the same states that you live in that run the same cities.

And by the way, they're coming with the same message. Look at all this shit. Over and over and over. Look at at all this problem the problem never gets fucking fixed at all it's been 50 years when we're gonna fix it guys right right and i feel like people are invested to keep it going oh you cannot convince me that america is more racist today than it was for previous years like obama right? Obama did a speech in 2013 in Morehouse College. And you can look it up. You can quote it. He says, it doesn't matter what your upbringing was. It doesn't matter if you've been faced with discrimination. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Whatever you think you're going through, it literally is a pale compared to previous

generations. We have opportunities. He also spoke about how we have to compete against the world. People from coming from other humbling beginnings, other countries to come to America and they strive. They literally strive. Like if I use the Nigerian, right, there's Nigerians that's blacker than all of us in this room but not the nigerians considered um they they actually refer to them superior in performance when it comes to academia even in business financing they're black if it's color of a skin and there's someone on the 13th floor and the system is so biased towards the color of the skin why is the nigerian have a pass the nigerian comes here and destroys man yeah so it's it's that is just one example of

many so it's and like i was telling you in this country the american dream the system the system will work if you work the system right if you make good decisions and you live a life and you have you build relationship currencies uh and you work and you work and you never give up and you're consistent and you follow the universal principle of success, right? Which cares nothing about what color you are, cares nothing about how big you are or how skinny you are, how tall or how short you are, what your creed is or what your religion you are. If you practice those universal principles of success daily, consistently with urgency and patience at the same time, and you're applying yourself and

you're crafting your craft, molding your craft, learning new skill and applying it and bringing value to the marketplace, it will in return pay for it. It will pay off. But people have lost how to win. They've literally lost how to win. So I always love to use my story just to inspire people and encourage them that, hey, this same America with all these narratives and all this stuff that's going on, like you've got to be able to take the cloak off. Wake up from the coma if you're in one. Move the dust out of your eye and really look at the clear picture of what it really takes to be successful and really make something of yourself, how to make a difference, right? It's possible, right? I'm the same guy, an American dream, built myself up. I made dumb decisions, turned my life around.

I have a significant amount of success now. I got so much more to go. I get plenty of confirmations that I'm on the right path. Got all my civil rights back. Remember, I went to prison for shooting two people. The same country that they they say so racist and the system is against me because of the color of my skin i got my civil rights back including my second amendment rights the same i went to prison lost all my rights for shooting people and now i received all my rights back well you're a successful business owner dude and you're only going further that way. Yeah.

You know? So here's something that I was wondering about you. Um, when you, when, and I think this kind of lends itself to what Vaughn asked earlier in a different way. So when you were,

when you were, uh, running the streets and doing the bad shit. Yeah. Okay. Did you have a different mentality in terms of like the victim mindset then um i never had me personally i never had a victim mindset but i will say i didn't see a vision for myself at the time yeah there's no i didn't i and that's just as

bad as the crt shit by the way you know and we tell what's just as bad is telling people not only can they not be anything but not giving them any fucking leadership to be anything and i think that's what's missing in the country right now yeah what's missing is we don't have good leadership right we all know you guys are leaders you guys run a very successful company. It would not be this successful if you didn't have the right leadership, right? So leadership's important. Our country does not have good leadership. I always use an example, like if we use history, you guys know who Booker T. Washington is, right? I was just going to bring him up. Booker T. Washington's like one of the original conservatives, right? I'm conservative. You had Booker T. It was binary. You had Booker T. Washington versus W.E.B. Du Bois. W.E.B. Du Bois was like an agitator. No, we got to fight. We got to this country. It's to agitate. It's to push, push, push. That's what we have when versus Booker T. Washington was, hey, let's we all in America. Let's respect each other. Let's respect ourselves. Let's build ourselves up. Let's empower each other through education,

through learning. Let's build businesses. Let's go out and add value to the marketplace. Let's pull ourselves up by the bootstrap, right? Which he was one of the people where eventually the president consulted him. Did they consult W.E.B. Du Bois? No, right? Not saying that W.E.B. Du Bois didn't have a legacy, but Booker T. Washington's legacy is so much more powerful. Right. He didn't take an anti-white stance or an anti-American stance. So if we look at this country, that's what we're going those guys' lives and Booker T. Washington, horrific background, up from slavery. Yep. W.B. Du Bois.

He comes from Cush. Entitled Cush. Entitled Cush. Up from the North when it was free. He's got all these degrees. He's respected by all these academics. And yeah, I mean, Booker T. Washington, by today's standards, he would be considered pretty controversial because he was like- They would call him what they call me, Uncle Tom, Booker T. Washington, by today's standards, he would be considered pretty controversial because he was like-

They would call him what they call me, Uncle Tom. That's right. And didn't he say basically, listen, I'm not concerned about segregation or desegregation. I'm concerned with us taking care of our business and becoming so excellent at what we do that eventually the white man says, huh, let's do business with those guys. Right, exactly. And it's- Becoming undeniable. And Du Bois didn't,

but Du Bois essentially say, oh, you're capitulating. You're just basically, I mean, I don't want to use the term, but they essentially called him the white man's house, you know, and, but what's fascinating to me about that is that if you look at the history of the civil rights movement,

you got your Booker T. Washington, you got your Du Bois, but then even in the 60s, you had Martin Luther King, who wasn't like modern-day people saying, America sucks. He was saying, actually, American ideals are amazing. The problem is you all aren't living up to your ideals. Now, if we actually live up to our ideals.

Preach, Vaughn, preach. Pastor disaster. But what's amazing is if you get into Martin Luther King, half of his quotes are from the founding fathers. Half of his quotes are basically saying, I love America, but you guys aren't living up to America. Whereas you got the Malcolm X over there going,

screw America, by any means necessary, Plymouth Rock landed on us, etc. So my question is, you mentioned that the current black community is so monolithic in its culture. Well, I think they're presented that way, bro. They're presented, yeah. So that's a media manipulation. I just have to jump in.

Yeah. A lot of them are like nonpartisan, you know what I mean? I think from what I've observed is there's a lot of the black culture who has conservative beliefs absolutely and just call them the wrong thing well well we're raised that way yeah for sure and dude the thing is is that that now it's more so they don't want to say out loud that because the truth is bro that dubois mentality exists within the black culture right now. Anytime a young black man or young black woman tries to better themselves or goes out in the traditional path of trying to become successful and does so in the company of white people,

they are told that they're a sellout. They are told that they are kissing ass to the white man. Or you're acting white so yeah so so what does that do that all they're doing is going out in the world bro the world the statistics are uh 12 to 13 percent african-american that means most of the people going to be a different color than you if you're black yeah so if you're out in the world and you're trying to make your way and you're trying to do all this shit and you got all your people saying hey you're fucking sellout that's not a good thing like a crab in a barrel that's right that's a cultural issue that has to be fixed we should be rewarding and praising people who go out and try to better

themselves it's not selling out anything it's working together to make a better place all right 100 that is one of the most damaging but dude when you're 14 or 15 or 16 years old and you're saying, I want to do this, I want to do that, and I want to do this, and your big brother or your big cousins down the street

who are 25 who are doing their fucking fucked up shit that you were doing. Yeah, that shit's exciting. Yeah, right. Well, no, it's not just that, but they're telling these younger, impressionable people,

you don't have a fucking chance to do that, bro. And if you do do it, you're a sellout to me. Like, dude, that sort of resistance is wrong. It is. American, I always say we need culture reform in America. Yeah, for sure. There's so many aspects of American culture that needs reform, right? In the black community in America, right?

It needs culture reform as well they glorify the badass syndrome is what i call it it's glorified it's even in the music right sometimes i refer to the music as suicidal poetry with good beats yeah right it's constantly bro i love perpetuate it but i'm not gonna argue with that dude i love it too it's got good it's suicidal poetry sometimes with good beats it's like man yeah yeah yeah but the whole time you rock it out they're talking about killing people in that mindset of the negative it's totally in the badass syndrome yeah yeah i've lifted weights yeah wow yeah you know what i mean so it's like there's a lot of influence yeah that um really it's just overly glorified like they sometimes we overly

glorified being from the hood yeah right like that shit ain't cool it's not cool at all man like we we should glorify dr ben uh not not dr ben um ben carson yeah right we should glorify thomas this person being a doctor yeah you know what i mean but but i guess and maybe in some instances they do right but i didn't where was it at i didn't see it when i was growing up you know everybody wanted to be a part of the narrative bro it really is plenty of black successful people out there they're just not promoted they're not because that's not part of the indoctrination the indoctrination is black people need to stay poor they need to stay fighting at their throats they need to uh create these things so that they can vote for us to fix the problems that don't

actually exist exactly and that's that is we have to get smarter about that and like dude this is not a to me this is not a race issue this is a fucking american culture issue we need culture reform i agree with you another question too it's like when you look at when you have these successful black people right you don't you don't see them out at fucking blm protests holding up signs no but you do see some of them who are the ones that are gatekeepers the ones that are glorified by the media perpetuate the shit they're a part of the machine yeah but that's the thing it's like a democratic cabal. But like the real success, like a Dave Stewart, for example,

right? He's not going to be at a BLM protest, but CEO of worldwide technology here in St. Louis. He's from Ferguson. Billions of dollars every fucking year. No, no, no, no. He's multi-billion. But he gives millions of dollars. Oh, yes. You know what I'm saying? Like he does actual change. He kept it here, right?

He kept it low. Yeah, He kept it here. Yeah. He kept it in. He's from Ferguson, dude. Imagine how many jobs he created through that, man. I want to say there's at least 6,000 employees in Maryland Heights right now just from him. You know what I'm saying? So it's like the real successful people, you're not going to hear them get on those. Like you're not going to hear Dave Stewart say anything's holding them back.

That's what my issue is. It's like. But I got to hear LeBron James tell me that there's something holding me back. Dude, it my issue is. It's like, but I got to hear LeBron James tell me that there's something holding me back. It drives me insane. Which makes no fucking sense, bro. You're fucking one of the richest dudes

in the fucking world. It literally drives me insane. Why is he? Because he fucking worked hard. Right, right. It's the, I call them, they think that they're gatekeepers.

Most of the people that tell you there's something in this country is holding you back, the people that are plastered and overly perpetuated on media, they push that they're gatekeepers. Most of the people that tell you that something in this country is holding you back, the people that are plastered and overly perpetuated on media, they push that narrative, that message. Does anybody ever ask, these people are successful. Why are they speaking death over me? Telling me that there's something that holds me back.

Nothing holds me back. These people are successful. And when people, I argue with them. I say, well, are you successful? Yeah, but you're an anomaly and an antidote and an exception to the rule. Outlier. But I'm like, your story and what you did, you can't speak for the totality. You can't speak for everybody.

But I'm like, well, how are you going to speak for everybody to say that something holds them back? Well, Craig, isn't anybody who's successful an anomaly? You know what I'm saying? Like, isn't that who's successful an anomaly? You know what I'm saying? Like, isn't that the point? The point is it's fucking hard for everybody. It is. Like I was telling you. I'm an anomaly amongst my fucking friends and network.

I mean, fuck. Well, why? Because I fucking haven't taken a motherfucking day off in fucking 23 years. You sacrificed. Yeah. Maybe you didn't go to that party. No, you didn't do that drug. It was an investment. You risk. Yeah. You did the necessary things. You never quit. Right. Could other people at the time did what you guys did? They quit. But they quit. Yeah.

It's the same thing with me. I went to prison. But I mean, I don't I don't I don't see how that's a race thing. It's not a race thing. Yeah. It's like I was telling you, when you're born, you're born looking like your mother and your father, but you're going to die looking like the decisions that you made. You're going to die looking like the decisions that you made. So are you out there being a thug in the street and you die that way? That's going to paint based off the decisions that you make. Or were you a philanthropist and you made yourself extremely successful and you donated and gave to charities and you tried to make a difference in the way that you wanted to make a difference? Or maybe you just never gave up and you did something amazing or you invented

something or you are a great artist or a poet or actress, whatever it is, right? And it always goes down to your decision. Decisions literally determine your outcome. It's not a color thing. Me going to prison was not because of my color. It was my decision. Me having the success that I have now, being in business, it's not because of color. It's the decisions, right?

It goes back. The universal principle of success does not care about what color you are. It's the decisions that you make daily over a course of time, period. You can't argue with me. Bring me somebody that you feel is something's holding them back, that there's something in the system. Let's dig into their life. Let me see their bank account. Let me see their daily activity. What are they deciding to do with their time? What's their spending habits? What's their spending habits?

What's their earning habits? Did they pick up a book? Did they listen to a podcast? Did they try to apply and go to college or go into the military? Or did they purchase a program, something that's going to further educate them? Are they trying to learn a skill? All we have to do is dig into anybody's life. It's not a white or black thing. You can make dumb decisions. Like I was telling you, Andy, if you today started making dumb decisions and I'm just going to drink and I'm stressed or whatever, and you started just frivolously spending and making poor leadership decisions, believe me, your business is going to start tanking over time. It's like the water fountain that drips. And time before you know it your water bill is like 500 you know what i mean

life is the same way your decisions what do they call it the slight edge effect oh yeah the compounding interest right yeah your daily decisions compound whether they're positive decisions or negative decisions they compound using me Do you know how many people come home from prison? If we use the statistics, it's not a white or black thing or some system. It's their decisions. They could have made decisions like me, which some do, and they make like completely inspire people and turn things around. Or they can go back to the same things that put them into prison in the first place so it's decisions it's decisions it's decisions and it's just unfortunate i think

people need like i was telling you people need to learn how to win again they don't know how to win but i can tell you how you can win yeah you want to know how you can win dj they need to listen real as fuck you know know what I mean? That's a plug for your ass. Dude, let me ask you this. Let's just say, because we get a lot of young bucks listening, you know what I'm saying? People who are 16, 17, 18.

Let's just say that we've got some of these black and brown listeners right now who are young, and they've been told, hey, uh, Hey man, you ain't gonna be shit. You know, it's going to have, it's going to be 10 times harder for you than it is for everybody else,

et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, all the shit. And what would you say to that person? Uh, you gotta know how you got to stand on what you want for yourself, right?

You have to be able to drown out the noise and understand it doesn't matter what color you are. Everybody is faced with challenges, right? Everybody's faced with things that they have to overcome. Like I was telling you guys earlier, I love the quote. I got this quote from Jim Rohn, right? One of the best motivational speakers that out there, he passed away. He was one of the greats. He said, life and business are like the changing seasons, right? You're going to go through winter, spring, summers, and falls throughout your whole entire life. So with that noise, with that, what you have to decipher out of, right? Things that people may be trying to tell you, oh, you can't do this or, oh, you can't do that and you can't do this because of

that or you don't know what makes you think you can do that. Use that as a fuel to push you on. I promise you, man, I promise you that life will reward you for not giving up and working and applying yourself over and over and just knowing it's going to happen for you. It will, man. It will. Let's say you want to make it into the NBA. Not everybody makes it into the NBA, but through your hard work, it's like you can laterally pivot to the same place that you wanted to be in. You know what I mean? It's just weird how it works that way. So what I would tell them is just never give up. Learn to drown out the noise and use those things that people say that you can't do as fuel to keep going forward. When you look at pivots,

because you, you know, you look at a lot of, you know, rags to riches stories and there's, there's a moment, right? You go to, you look at a drug addict who switches and turns your life around. You look at somebody who goes to prison and turns their life around. There's usually rock bottom, like rock bottom that creates the pivot for you. When was rock bottom? Like, what was it when you walked in, you know, with your tote or was there a moment in prison where you had that experience where it was like, all right, man, I ain't doing a shit no more. Prison definitely made me feel like, man, I've hit rock bottom. And then since I've been home released from prison, I've had other rock bottom moments like sleeping in my car.

Right. I used to work at a gym and literally would sleep behind the gym in my car. That was like a rock bottom moment on people's couches. And I just always knew. This is how it is right now. But I know it's going to change for me. I'm just going to keep doing the right thing. I'm just going to keep doing the right thing. And it, I mean, it's led and opened up so many doors for me and I got so much more to give to people.

I literally want to dedicate my life to just trying to get people to understand, like you just got to keep, it gets dark sometimes. Well, I think, you know, you, you you you've led into this and there's you know there's a lot of people here today so i've just been trying to to listen and

apply and you talk about you know the persistency of going back and fighting that guy right like keep showing up and i think a lot of that plays back into life and success is you know the first couple years of the first couple challenges man it ain't gonna be fun but you're gonna have to keep getting back up you're gonna have to have to keep showing up and you're going to have to keep executing. And I think in that a lot of times the young bucks, as Andrew talks about, they get lost in that first part of the process because they don't see success after two weeks or two months or even shit, even two years, right? You're going to have to shovel shit for two years to understand it. All right, now I've earned the right to get to the next level. And I think consistency in

executing that discipline to the process is huge, right? For the young guy. And I think consistency in executing that discipline to the process is huge, right? For the young guy. And I, you know, when you start to see the successful habits around people who have changed their life, there's a moment, right? A pivot, like for me and my relationship's a big thing. And there's a pivot that says, I'm not doing this shit anymore. And I'm going to execute and move forward. And then there's that same exact parallel in success. Like, man, I'm not doing this shit anymore. I'm going to fucking execute. I'm going to eliminate my own excuses. I'm going to show up every motherfucking day,

and I'm at least going to give myself the best motherfucking shot that I can to win. And it's to the principles that you've talked about over and over again. It's removing your own excuses, understanding you've got to take ownership of your own actions and execute. Day in and day out. There's a little voice that we all have, right? Everybody has like a bitch assness to them. Oh yeah. You know what I mean?

There's a little voice. He's a motherfucker, isn't he? Dude, there's a little voice. And he's a good negotiator. It's like, I don't know if you guys ever heard the analogy, which wolf are you feeding? Right? Which one are you feeding? There's a little voice that's telling

you like dude you're fucking being lazy man come on you know you could have did more you fucking slept half the day away you're being lazy come on man you could have did more in the day you're bullshitting you said you were going to do that you put it off for a whole week so it's like at some point you gotta look yourself in the mirror and, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of being sick and tired. And it's like the, the, the dog won't get up off the nail until it's, they actually feel the pain. So sometimes you do need to smack your face on the ground to realize, I don't want to live like this no more. Like I, I need to do something. I'm tired of living this way. There's no way that this is going to be my life.

You know what I mean? You got to refuse to accept it. But don't be a little bitch ass. No, it's not throwing a temper tantrum. It's going out and taking productive steps to fix the situation. Exactly. Yeah, and that takes time.

That takes time. You know, a lot of people want to go out and fix their life in one day. know a lot of people want to go out and fix their life in one day that bro that's not gonna happen it's it's consistently making the right decisions over time thanks right it's um i think and i'm not trying to get too mystical on you guys i think we don't understand time right we look at time and, oh, it's an urgency. Oh, shit. Six years of my life away, doing nothing. I always tell people, like, I was released in 2009. If you would have asked me in 2009, I would see myself here today, right now, on this podcast with some very successful people

speaking and telling my story. I couldn't make the mental leap. If you would have asked me five years from when I was released, hey, you see yourself opening your own gym, literally building it from the dirt. I couldn't make the mental leap, man. You got to realize I was just fresh out of prison. Like, man, I'm just happy to be released. Yeah. You literally can't make a mental leap. So it doesn't matter where wherever you are in your life. Right. You you cannot make a mental leap. You don't know where you're going to be five years, 10 years from now. You just have to know when I do the right thing. I'm going to keep working my ass off.

I know what I want and I'm just going to by any means necessary. I'm going to try to figure it out and you're going to fail and you're going to have to overcome and you're going to have little wins that confirm to you you're on the right path. Keep going. And along the way, you're going to meet great people. You're going to be good people and people are going to help you. People are going to see you trying to help yourself. Right. And I think to the young listeners, like they need to understand that. Like don't beat yourself up so much. Don't be so hard on yourself. You're young. Some of these people are what, 19, 20, 21. You're young. Like I came home at 25, man. I just turned 37. My life is, I feel like, man, my life is just beginning. So now that I look at my life, I don't look at it as so overwhelming. Like I got time.

Like look how much I've accomplished in just 10 years. You know what I mean? So like you can't make the mental leap. You just know, let me apply myself. Let me listen to the podcast. Let me listen to the people that are successful.

What can I learn from them? Let me apply myself. Let me listen to that voice that's saying, hey, you're being a bitch assness. You know you're being lazy. Stop being entitled. Stop complaining. Let me just work my ass off and figure it out. And then one day you look up and you're like, it's funny. I tell my homeboy Topher, right? Number one billboard song. He's a badass. He's got the Patriot song, right? Topher was a major influence with me and starting to speak out and tell my story. I always tell him understand, Hey, be patient, come from a gratitude

standpoint, but also have urgency with the two. And in your urgency, you're applying yourself. And man, one day you'll look up and you'll be like, man, how did I get here? You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. I think it's, it's hard though, especially when you're young, man. And this is a thing is like retrospective time goes so fast. You know what I mean? I'm 40 at 35. It seems like a fuck man. It was yesterday. But when you're 20, you think 25 is like light years away and 25 to 30 is light years away. You're like, dude, I can't do that for five fucking years. And when you're 40, you look back and think, fuck, I wish I had done that five years ago. And that, that switch is so like, you have to learn. The time's going either way.

Well, you can't control it. And I think the only thing you can't control are your actions that happen in those time frames, right? The days, the minutes, the decisions. And learning that that compounding interest at the slide edge that we talk about, you know, that compounding interest over time is your biggest fucking opportunity and the one that most people miss. And that's the thing that, you know, I wish I could give them a younger version of myself, right? Because we always have, like, these little sprint modes. You do great for 90 days. What happens? You're great for 120, you know, what happens to be great for 280, 360, you know, and you start looking back at time and think, fuck man, I wish I'd have done that 10 years ago. And now it's like, fuck, I can't wait five years. And you still, you never get around it. But the

best time to start any changes today, right now, you know, and understanding that you're not different. We all have the same time. The sun rises and sunsets, whether you want it to or not, doesn't fucking matter. The wind's going to fucking blow. The storm's going to fucking come. What you do today matters for you, not for anybody else, because the world don't give a fuck. And that's the difference, right? Like we want to be victimized. And this is a little wolf thing, right? You want to, you're your own best salesperson. You victimize yourself. As to why you can't. Yeah. My situation's a little bit different. Well, it is a little wolf thing right you want to you're your own best salesperson you victimize yourself why you can't yeah my situation's a little bit different well it's a little bit different you're right motherfucker but so is the guy from Nigeria

right or so is the guy from India from Haiti or Brazil or somewhere but yeah but you know what I'm saying it's like you want to talk about victim well dude we're talking about basic shit here I mean this is personal responsibility one onon-one. It's really fucking simple.

And this country was founded upon the idea of creating a pathway for anybody to achieve wealth and prosperity if they decide they want to trade parts of their life for that. And, you know, people argue, well, it was founded by white people who owned slaves yeah it was but some things have happened since then that have changed the fucking game okay we've had we had a uh you know how many hundreds of thousands of white men die in the civil war to create this scenario one thing that pissed me off about this whole black lives matter shit that went down was uh you know when they tore down the statue of ulysses s grant that really irritated the fuck out of me bro because ulysses s grant was a great fucking american and yes he was white but you know what else he was also the guy who went out and fucking freed

the slaves on the fucking ground physically yes like he was the general that led the fucking way and without him we fuck who knows what would happen. And they're tearing down. They're like, dude, we have such a, we have such a poor understanding of what this country is really supposed to be because of the education system and the things that are taught right now by quite honestly, by people who haven't ever fucking done anything. Okay. You got a bunch of fucking people. And I'm talking about these teachers who haven't done shit. All right.

They've got, went and got a fucking degree and you motherfuckers come at me all you want. I'll give a fuck. They went out and got a fucking degree, went in a fucking school system, taught everybody their shortcomings about how they didn't fucking achieve their shit. And now we got this whole generation of people that don't understand what America is about. And that's very frustrating. And if we would just, you know, if we would just, cause dude, there's plenty of people that know this shit. It's just, nobody's saying it. And one of the things that you were saying a minute ago, you know, about Topher encouraging you to speak up.

What is it like? Why are people so afraid right now to fucking say what they know? Because, dude, I could tell you from experience of what I observed night, the majority of motherfuckers out there are jiving with what we're fucking saying. They're saying, yeah, yeah, fuck. Yeah, yeah fuck yeah yeah yeah and then they go out in public and they're and they hear this they go with the collective they hear this crazy fucking bullshit from the karen right or whoever and they're like well yeah i could see that no motherfucker dude believe what you believe and fucking speak for that the reason that we are where we are in this country right now is because of the quote unquote silent majority.

You motherfuckers believe all this shit. No, that's what our problem is. Bro. We need to stop being silent. That's right. You guys all believe and agree with these things that we're talking about that are very basic. You're too fucking weak to stand up and say, no, I fucking believe that. And what you're doing is letting all the motherfuckers who are out there

fighting for the shit you believe, take all the motherfucking arrows. Eventually there won't be nobody left. Take those fucking arrows. And if everybody fucking stand, bro, me too. And if we fucking all stand up together and say, no dude, fuck you. Then they could fuck, they could all fuck off together. I mean, that's very simple. There's a saying, there's a saying you guys can look the saying up. I apologize. I can't quote the person that said it. There's a saying that says, there are many things that I believe that I should not speak on,

but I should never ever speak on things that I don't believe in. There is a lot of things going on in our country right now that they are forcing and overly perpetuating on media, people that they think are gate overly perpetuating on media, people that they think are gatekeepers. They're constantly drilling it in you to make you think that it's real and to believe that that's what's going on to get you to say what you truly don't believe in. Yeah. That your values as a man or a woman or your values as a man of God or a woman

of God. That's evil. It's evil. So you should never, ever, ever speak on things that you do not believe in. Ever. Stand on your values, man.

If you're a Christian, if you're a man or woman of God, stand on that. Stand on your values. It's okay. If you know it's wrong, stand on it. That's right. Speak out. Because this is why we're where we are now in our country. It is why we are where we are. Nobody, no more silent majority.

Nobody wants to take the heat, bro. But here's the thing. If everybody stood up, nobody takes the heat. Right. They just get to go fuck off. We get the heat now. If we go back in history,

when the guys say, oh, they're coming, the boats are coming, the British are coming. Like, if nobody started speaking out, nobody came to get, dude, where would the country be? We would have been fucked. You know what I mean? Would we even be free? They're coming. The British are coming. Like, if nobody started speaking out, nobody came to get... Dude, where would the country be?

We would have been fucked. You know what I mean? Would we even be free? What kind of country would we have? It takes people that have courage to stand up and speak out. Greg, don't you know it's 2021, bro? All you do is you write that shit in a little black box on your Instagram, you put your name underneath it, you steal a quote.

That's Greg's quote. You're famous, man. You're the most famous motherfucker. They're like, wow, man, you steal a quote. That's Frank's quote. You're famous, man. You're the most famous motherfucker. They're like, wow, man, he's so smart. That's funny as hell, man. What I thought you were going to say, and I don't know if, I can't remember if it was Benjamin Franklin or one of the other founders, but he said, we must all hang together or we will hang individually.

Absolutely. Dude, it's just frustrating for me, man, because like, I see all these people with all this potential of all different races and all different colors. And I see this country with the potential that it has. And we're literally, we like, we are literally like, it's hard for me to even fucking grasp this concept. We are literally judging people off of like, they're like, how much time you spend on Sunday? Oh, you got a little too dark. Fuck you. Like, dude, it doesn't make any fucking sense.

I'm darker than half the black guys we got here. Just from June to like August. Real, real shit, dude. Like, it doesn't make any fucking sense. Well, now they're telling you that we're supposed to because you guys are like, oh, I don't see color, right? Like, you shouldn't see color.

But now they're telling you, no, no, no, you should be seeing color. You're supposed to see. I'm like, it doesn't make sense. It's like, why? What was the civil rights movement about? Not compartmentalizing people of color. No, it's identity politics, bro.

It's weird. The identity politics got to go. Like, look, man. It's weird. The identity politics got to go. Like, look, man. It's crazy. Look, we will never win in this country with identity politics. Oh, identity politics is driving me. And the people pushing it know that.

That's why they're pushing it. Because they don't want us to win. No, dude, we have a bunch of old motherfuckers. By the way, most of them are fucking white, okay? Who are holding on to power because by manipulating a certain segments of the population and believing shit that isn't actually true. And until we all decide, hey, fuck all you old motherfuckers have been in this system for the last fucking 40 years who haven't done shit, we're not going to move

forward. We got to have young leadership who sees the world as young people see it. And I'm not talking about 20 year olds. I'm talking about guys our age, right, who have perspective and have a grasp on the real situation, have experienced things in real life. Not this fucking, these 20-year-old fucking crazy fucks who don't know shit, who've never had to go through shit. Like, bro, how stupid did you think you were when you were 20? Oh, dude, can you imagine my mindset trying to run? Me too, bro. Like, my girlfriend, she's like, man, imagine if we would have met

10 years ago. I'm like, no, no, no. I was a complete asshole. I think we can all say that. It's been long. I don't think you want to meet me then. You know what I mean? You would have had a good night And that's the unfortunate part Damn man

This is real as fuck I got no comment I'm the only smart person here I learned my lesson last night She's going to kill me after this show literally this motherfucker he just set himself up in front of the fucking crosshairs

next topic for what it's worth let me throw this out there 1920 there were roughly 20,000 KKK members who marched on Washington. From 1920 to 1930, you had roughly at least seven states in the Midwest and the South where if you had any sort of political aspirations, you had to be a member of the KKK. In the 60s, you had little black boys, little black girls who would literally be in Sunday school school and they get firebombed.

OK, so. I'm a history nerd. I've read a lot of American history trying to get a sense of our country, which is important to note, dude, that wasn't that long. Right. It wasn't that long ago. Like, dude, look, to say that racism is fucking fake or there's not. No, that's not true.

But to say it's also an entire group of people black people think this white people think this that's fucking bullshit too we got racist motherfuckers on both sides absolutely both sides okay and people say well white skin can never be oppressed bullshit there's a history of white slavery that goes back a million fucking years okay but you motherfuckers don't know your history and i'm not going to teach to you. So we can just agree to that. You're an idiot.

No, it's true. We can agree. It's so true. Um, I studied African history when I was in prison. Yeah. There's literally journals of white folks.

I used to look around and say, well, you know, black folks run everything. Yeah, that's right. People need to know their history. Right.

Like seriously, our history does not. I tell black folks, it doesn't start with slavery. Like, we have so much more history to the world. Thousands of years. Thousands of years. And, bro, there's all kinds of different. Dude, this comes back to, this isn't race, bro. People who say this is race, they are fundamentally fucking stupid.

They're stupid. Because if you can't look past someone's fucking skin tone, what's that say about you? In any regard. Whether you're looking at white people or black people or fucking any people. I just can't imagine how people live their life just saying, oh, man. Fucking Randy's white and that's why he's successful because he's white and I'm black. I just, i can't live my life that way i never get that way i've never gotten that from a black person one fucking

time i've gotten that one million times from white liberals oh my god and i've never gotten a black person that says that to me did you ever read the book of people's history i think it's by howard zinn it's on my list because i think isn't that the left leaning take? It's a left leaning take but man does he write it's a good book. I'll have to check it out. It's good to read both sides. Oh absolutely. No no no. That's what I wanted to do. You said you're a history buff so I said man let me see if you read the book. Absolutely. Thank you for the recommendations.

But to the point that I was making you look at the history of our country and two things should happen and it should be a smack down to, to both the right and the left. You should look at what happened to black people. And I do think that there should be a moment where any white person in

America reads that stuff and goes, crap, that is terrible. Some fucked up shit. That is terrible. I don't think, and be genuinely sad that that happened. But the flip side is also true.

Is to me that if any person today studies that stuff and sees just how horrible this stuff really was. To compare your modern struggles to what those people went through. You talk about offensive. That is offensive. It's about offensive. That is offensive. It's a pill. That is offensive. That comes from the weakness of our fucking society. Yeah.

Okay, I talk about this all the time. These motherfuckers that are 25 and under ever had to do shit. They got fucking no hardship. They've been through no real conflict. They've had no 9-11 or any unifying event happen in their life. They don't understand real evil.

Bro, they suffer from an embarrassment of motherfucking riches. Dude, they all got a $2,000 computer. They're all spoiled. That's right. They got a $2,000 computer, $1,000 iPhone, this, that, running water, toilets, food, on-call, grub hub. They got fucking everything. Comes right to the door and we're all talking about how fucked up our shit is bro the truth is most of these people are so fucking

weak they gotta make up shit to be mad about that's real as fuck we're gonna be talk about real okay so go to fucking somalia go to fucking go broaden your horizon that's right go to fucking uh some of the poor countries in asia go to india and we'll talk about how how racist and how fucked up you feel our country is after you come back that's absolutely like what you were saying i don't i think white folks in america they know the things that happen in slavery was it's horrific it's. But again, to compare your today to previous generations like Obama, their Messiah says it's a pale, period. At the end of the day,

the narratives that's going on in our country, the anti-white, the anti-American, the victimhood narratives, amongst many other narratives, at the end of the day, right? I'm not a Bible thumper, right? And you can quote me on this. People need to find healing in their heart, right? They do. They need to find the healing in their heart. There's a lot of anger, hatred, and resentment running rampant in our country,

right? If you're a man of God or if you're a woman of God, right? I'm a Christian. If you stand on your belief as a Christian, our God, Jesus, he's a forgiving God, right? I'm a Christian. If you stand on your belief as a Christian, our God, Jesus, he's a forgiving God, right? Second Corinthians chapter 5, 17, be anyone in Christ is a new creation. Be all things pass away. That's a forgiving God. Your today is not the previous generations. Yes, it was horrific. Yes, you're hearing this constantly beating into your head, but at the end of the day, you're still my brother. You're an American, right? DJ's my brother. Andy, all of us, everybody's in here is my brother, right? You got to find, if you're angry about the history, you have to find healing in your heart. If you had something, bias happened to you, you felt like you had some racist situation that happened to you and somebody was an asshole or a jerk to you. You have to find healing in your heart, forgiveness in your heart, right? Not everybody

is that way, period. And I think that societal wise, culture wise in America, people just need to find healing in their heart, period. They got to find the forgiveness in the heart. You can't go around living your life with anger, hatred, and resentment, because the same wall that you put up to keep out possibly your unhappiness is the same wall that keeps out your blessing as well. And it keeps in your frustration. And you drown in it. And it prohibits you from progressively moving forward. So, I mean, that's where I stand with it.

Absolutely. I feel like what you're talking about, there was this black pastor in the 1960s who kind of said something similar. What was his name? I forget. Malcolm. No. No.

Not Malcolm. But Malcolm in his last days. He did. He did. Malcolm Mello. He realized like. Malcolm went to the middle. He's a great example.

I'm actually a fan of a lot of his shit because at the end of his journey. The end of his days. He started figuring out that a lot of the shit because at the end of his days he started figuring out that a lot of the things that he believed were not actually true and he was man enough to say so and then actually got took out and then actually teach yeah that's right he started teaching the truth and then he was gone yeah and he went on his homage and he realized that's why lebron james you got to read more in the first page motherfucker lebron james ain't reading that damn no shit we got we got 15 fucking videos of them on the first page bro like so what would you like about the book maybe you wouldn't be the most hated player in the nba what would you like about the

book james uh the front page it was a good book well let's be let's be real about lebron james i mean let's be real about what's motivating this all he knows money he knows well that and he knows bro he he he listen we're gonna where my 10-4 this motherfucker oh shit yeah this motherfucker that motherfucker earns his money from one of the biggest fucking ccp companies in the fucking planet which happens to be fucking nike okay they support and our they sell so much merchandise. I believe they actually sell more merchandise in China than they do in the American marketplace. This here is the problem. So he's getting pressure from a company to take a role that he is not equipped to fucking have. That should be pretty obvious to anybody. He's not equipped to have, you could put the

glasses on, you can grow the beard, you could do the whole look carry around with the book motherfucker that don't make you nothing you still don't know what the fuck you're talking about and and that man has been more damaging to the culture of america in the last fucking 12 months than i think any other fucking high profile person because of the because of the things he said you know when there was a shooting in memphis i think it was, and he went out and said, oh, you're next to the cop. Oh, dude.

And no repercussion? No. And then not only that, bro. Yeah, no shit. You got heat for a day, right? He hurried up and retracted it. Bro. It's like, man, can you imagine?

Look, dude, here's the thing. These dudes, these dudes don't understand the damage they're doing. They just don't. They have influence. Yes. And if you compare LeBron James to Jordan. Yeah.

Jordan is like, I mean, one of the greats, man. Yeah. Right. LeBron James, they were considered one of the greats. Does he do a lot of great things? Absolutely. Yeah. But look, he's look at the shit he's doing now.

Dude, that's my point, though. I think he woke up and realized, you know what? I'm always going to be runner up to the GOAT. Scratch that. I'm always going to be second runner up to the GOAT because the first runner up is Kobe. So I've got to make a name for myself. I don't think that's what it is at all. You don't think so?

No. I think it's about pay, dude. I think it's a greed thing. I think all the bad shit in this world that we have going on right now comes down to money. It really does. And as much as I'm a proponent for having money, I've always said that you're not supposed to love it. Okay. Right. So, I mean, I do love it, but love it more than other things. Right. So the thing is, is that we have a scenario now where if you really like, dude, here's the thing. And this

is where I think a lot of people are really disconnected they're they're in the battle right like they're on the they're they're on the internet and on facebook and they're arguing with each other fuck you no fuck you ezekiel right like bro we're just saying all this shit online each other but if you look at like if you remove yourself from this and you start to rise above and look down on it and you're like, all right, what's really going on here? What we really see is a bunch of people who profit from our division on the ground floor. Okay. And those motherfuckers are the ones sending these messages down the pipe that keep us divided. And we have to all stop and say, that's not my enemy. That guy I'm arguing with online,

that's not my fucking enemy. The people who taught him to think like that and the people who taught me to get involved with this, those are the motherfucking enemies. Those are the people that keep harmony from happening. They keep progress from happening and they keep us fulfilling the ideal of America from actually happening, which is a place of equal opportunity, not equal result. Okay. So what does that mean? That means that you, if you want more than what you got, guess what you got to do? You got to go fucking do shit. You got to work. You're going to have to make investments in your future. You're going to have to do things that your homies and your bros and this and that aren't willing to do. That's a fact. So we have to get out of the mindset of being triggered when we talk about personal

responsibility. You know, like a lot of these people now are mad when you start talking about taking control of your life and being personally responsible. Why are they so mad? Well, they're mad because they don't want to have to do that shit. And they think that if they argue loud enough and strong enough and vocal enough, that eventually they're going to get whatever the fuck they want. And I'm here to tell you, you won't. You'll spend your whole life beating on a fucking pot that doesn't ever pay off shit. So you really have a choice to make, dude. This is the bottom line of everything. Whether you're black, brown, yellow, I don't care, red, it doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck. No matter what you are, you have a choice.

Your choice is this. Complain, complain, complain, bitch, bitch, bitch, make post after post after post and maybe get some attention, all right? Or shut the fuck up and go out and be an example of what it looks like to fucking win and actually make a difference. Because I'm going to tell you, you motherfuckers out there is beating that drum. You're going to be beating that drum your whole life. And the reality of this country will never change. It will always be the same. People who work will create something. People who create will get paid. That's it. And it doesn't matter what color you are.

It doesn't matter where you come from. It doesn't matter what your, do some of us come from harder situations? Absolutely. No one's saying that. But what we are saying is that regardless of how hard your situation is, the decisions to make,

the opportunity to make better decisions for your future and your family and your future family that doesn't even exist yet are still open and free to everybody. And that's a fact. That is a true statement. It's a factual statement. And if you guys decide to think that's bullshit and you want to spend your whole life being a fucking victim, then cool. But you will never win that way. And that's really what I just want you to know. I want you to hear it from me because 20 years from now, you're going to go back and remember, you're going to say, fuck, that dude, that dude was right. Yeah. Right. And I would rather you start now than start then because the

truth, the reality of life hits us no matter what. At some point in time, all of these motherfuckers beating this drum, that is not true. That is not real. They are going to be confronted with the truth. And for a lot of those people, it's going to be on their deathbed. It's going to be when it's too late, when they've got cancer or they've got sick or they're getting ready to die and they're going to say, fuck, I didn't do shit. All I did was beat this fucking drum. I didn't make a change for nothing because at the end of that day, whether it be 50 years from now or fucking two years from now, the world is still going to be the same. The people who do the work create, they get paid and win and become the influencers of the world.

And by the way, that's in every country, whether it's socialist, communist or fucking anything. It's just reality. People who want to win, they will make a way, they will drive and drag themselves across a hundred miles of broken fucking glass to do so. And if you're willing to do that, you'll win. If you're not, I don't care what color you are. You could be white. Oh, you could be the whitest motherfucker in the world. You're still going to fucking lose. So we have to come to an understanding as a culture that this is reality. All right. And what I want and the reason I'm vocal about these things is for a couple of reasons.

One, I love this country. This country is the only country in the world that makes it truly available to every single citizen. Other places, you have to try much harder to get success, to become where you are. Two, I fucking believe that humans are humans. I don't care how much of a tan you got because of where your ancestors were. It's a ridiculous statement. Dude, it's such a ridiculous topic. It is a ridiculous topic. If we want to talk about something real, let's talk about the socioeconomic disparities in those neighborhoods that are predominantly black. Let's talk about fixing the education system so that some of these black children and brown children can now believe that they can

achieve things, not be told that they can't achieve things. Okay. We want to fix things. Let's fix the crime rate in our cities. Let's stop killing each other because of fucking shit we saw on music video or TV. Like, dude, the change that needs to happen in this world comes from us. And I'm not just saying this to black folks or white folks or anybody. I'm saying this to any motherfucker who's listening. If you want the world to be a better place, if you want the world to become the America that it should be, that's a leadership role that all of us are obligated to, every single one of us. And that comes, and that's by taking personal responsibility for ourselves, our actions, our thoughts, our words, and what we say.

Are we going to say wrong things sometimes? Yeah, we're gonna. You know what? That's the reality. Sometimes I say dumb shit. Sometimes, Craig, you're going to say dumb shit. Sometimes, Vaughn, well, a lot of times. Good job, Vaughn.

You've perfected it. But my point is. I'm going to back it up with scripture. Yeah, my point is, guys, is that we're all human and we all make mistakes. And one of the things that, you know, this whole scenario of our cultural situation that we have here in America, whether it be COVID or fucking masks or the racial things or all of these things, right? One of the biggest things I've learned in the last year is that all of this shit is laid out in the Bible. Like it's really laid out. Like, hey dude, this is real simple. Be kind to people,

treat people how you want to be treated, you know, pay honor to the father of God by being the best person that you can be. Are you meant to be perfect? No, you're not. That's where you said, stop beating yourself up. That's a valuable trait. But also, it's not just stop beating yourself up. Stop giving yourself all the fucking slacks. Stop letting yourself off the hook every fucking time. Because that's an equally big problem, right? Like we got people who are too hard on themselves and then go down the drain. And then we got people who are too easy on themselves and they go to the same place. So we, listen guys, we all have to do a better job. And for this to actually fix itself and to heal, which I believe, I believe that's what

everybody wants for that's on the ground level. The people up here, when you get up here and look down on it, they don't want that shit. But us, the regular people, fuck dude, I don't want to fucking fight with people. I don't want to argue with people. I don't want to hear, I don't want to, I want to, dude, we, we need to be fucking citizens of this country and good humans and, and ambassadors of America, you know, and of American values. And dude, this isn't white supremacy or racist or that's all shit that they say to get us to stay from that spot because what happens when everybody starts getting along? They're fucked, by the way. Why do you think they want us to argue? Why do they think they want us to fight?

Because if we're arguing and fighting amongst each other, we can't see the shit they're doing to us. That's a fact. So, fuck. Like, wake the fuck up. Like,

I don't know how to end that, bro. Like, I just. I think you just did. Yeah, man. That was good.

That was good. So, I have, I've been taking notes over here. I've got a few, few show highlights for you. One, I will show you my,

my wokeness. the fuck is tofer tofer's a black conservative music artist he's fucking awesome he has the number one billboard song patriot by the way i'm dj's neighbor white new balances mower stripes no you're the king white dad. That's racist. Whatever the fuck it is. It's also the truth. Here's the thing. That dude has had his music blocked off every fucking platform and he's still

the fucking number one. Just like the Cancel Morgan Wall and I turn his ass on. He had another song, I feel like Terry Crews. Then he's got the Patriots song. He's got some bangers, man. I like Terry Crews. Facts are racist.z then he's got the patriot song like he's got some bangers man i like terry facts are racist i think he's doing that i think he's too i just saw a fucking article there's a lot of and that's what's weird about the the like the conservative movement yeah just

using rap music right we were all talking about how we love rap music yeah well i love the fact that these guys right they're in the conservative, but they're really changing and breaking up things about hip hop. Yeah. Right? We're used to the cussing, the suicidal poetry with good beats. Right. That glorifies degrading women, drugs, and gang banging. Boom, boom, Xanax.

Right? These guys have figured out a way to make good music with good beats with no cussing. And it's funny. It's funny too, dude. Principles and values of faith, right? You have Bryson Gray. You have Topher. You have 4G Auto Blow.

Who's the white guy? You like Lecrae? You ever heard of Lecrae? I've heard of Lecrae, yeah. You should check him out. I've heard of Lecrae. Who's the white rapper that's doing that too? That's 4G Auto Blow.

Is it? 4G Auto Blow is based out of Tampa, man. He's pretty good, huh? He's good too. I'm a proud American. I think Tommy Vex is doing some stuff with Topher. There's a couple.

Oh, Tommy Vex is doing stuff with Topher. Yep, you hit it on the nail. Yeah. But Topher, it's the back end store. I'll check it out. Check out Topher, man.

Yeah. Topher's going to love like, oh man, you know, Topher has opened up so many doors and helped me so much so i know he'll really appreciate when he hears yeah i think we love you man no no i'm gonna have him on the

show i'm talking to him when he comes yeah i'm gonna come up here too we're gonna put tofer's ass through a workout too all right all right hey i so and then there's another thing i think you know we changed you know a lot changed in our lifetime you know for us got you know when we were younger you know, a lot changed in our lifetime, you know, for us guys, you know, when we were younger, you know, you used to watch news is a lot about highlighting the good, you know, you see a lot of the good things and the neighborly deeds and, you know, it was about going out and promoting because you would be rewarded for doing good. Now it's the reward system is for doing bad. You know what I mean? Who's the most fucked up who could fuck up, you know, and it, and I think that controlling that piece of life is, is sad because the inspirational

stories when we were kids, they would inspire you, right? You used to watch the 30 on 30s and they were positive or the East 60s and they were overcoming struggle and hardship. And I think we don't see that anymore when you turn on the news. And unfortunately, our youth, the young kids, they don't get to see the qualities of helping your neighbor, right? Loving your neighbor and being a good human in society. I think that's changed. I wrote a note here. I don't know what the fuck it says.

Next one. Let me add to that, Sal. Right now, the leadership that they have, which we've seen them on record saying, hey, robbing the Gucci store, robbing the Macy's. That's right. That's reparation. Get in their face. They have poor leadership. That's right.

They confuse a generation of's. That's right. That's reparation. Get in their face. They have poor leadership. That's right. They confuse a generation of people that is out there. They're thinking that committing crimes and doing those things is social justice. That's right. They have to come together, right? So it's just poor leadership at this point. They need good leadership, the people that show them an example. Hey, it's okay to be a doctor.

Not everybody's going to be a rapper. You could be a doctor or a lawyer or start your own business, or maybe you're a pastor, right? There's a lot of other things that we're successful in that are just not glorifying. Yeah. And be the change in the world you want to be, right? I mean, that's a lead by example. It's a core value of ours here at First Form. But I mean, you have to be the change that you want to see in order for it to change around your environment. You have to go first. And I think that's a thing that's scary in and of itself, no matter what age group you're in, for it to change around your environment. You have to go first. And I think that's a, that's a thing that's scary, you know, in and of itself, no matter what age group you're in, you know, for you to step outside your comfort zone, it's hard, but that's what's necessary in order to make the change. I, you know, a key factor that I've learned in life, there's two

things and I'll leave you with this, you know, education, educate in execution. You know, you got to learn the knowledge first, the podcast, you talked about picking up a book, listening to a podcast, paying attention, buying a course. You know, one of the goals of the show is to help educate, help teach. One of the goals of our brand is to help educate, help teach to change your life. But without execution, it ain't going to fucking work. You know, without taking that first step, it ain't actions. Without actions, bro, you ain't going to get shit. You can wish in one hand, shit in the other. The only one's going to reveal a fucking surprise for you. So understanding that, hey man, you got to take the steps to control your own mileage and your own power.

Don't drive. Don't let that narrative that they pushed down through you be the education you have go out and seek and look and read and, and do research and read the left piece, right? Read the right piece, figure out who you want to be. And like to Andrew's point earlier is like, Hey man, I don't give a fuck if you're left, right, or center, I give a fuck that you know the facts and we can have a conversation. Yeah. i don't and i can deal with the other shit like hey man we don't agree cool but i'm not a motherfucker because i don't agree with you and i'm not saying you're a motherfucker because you don't agree with me you know fuck you i'm gonna shoot no no no yeah we've lost that in this country we have we can't have a good civil

conversation that's not we didn't lose that. It's just not promoted anymore. No, no, no, no, bro. That was purposely worked out of our, out of our. I agree. Yeah. Well, and I think that's, goes back to your piece about love.

You know. Love is love, man. Love has no color. Yeah, that's not only is it no color, there's a love and respect is an understanding of like, you know, I can still share those feelings

with you even though we disagree. You know, we can, I can still take care of your children. You take care of mine. Like we get, we go into hell or high water and shootout breaks down at McDonald's I'm gonna fuck what color you are you know I'm protecting your kids you protect mine we'll get that guy right there's a piece of that that's lost right now the same wall that you put up to keep

out disappointment is the same wall that I keep out your blessing that's right and my last thing is you know is Andrew talked about and that's that's good shit it. It's great. Did I lose your thought there? No, no, no, no, no, no. I was getting ready to say, you know, I can't wait to read the quote on your Instagram, but my, my, my ADD head fucking shoots off into squirrel land. And I got the, the, you know, your hardship is your win. Understanding that, like, you know, you're a young guy and you talk about, you know, no matter where you, where you start, that's your strength. Your biggest struggle is your biggest strength. For every single success

story that I've learned to identify, the thing that they struggle with the most ultimately becomes the thing that they're best at. You going to prison is the best thing that ever happened to you. You can't see it at the fucking time, but it's the best fucking thing to happen to you because it gives you perspective of the struggle so that you can overcome it. Right. Most people stay in the struggle. They can't. They can't.

They can't. They they victimize themselves to say in that little fucking bubble. And it's like understanding that, you know, that struggle that you're going to overcome through taking the education, executing on that fucking on that challenge is the is the piece that's most recognizable to everyone else. It's the piece that will help everyone else. It's the piece that's going to help build your legacy because it's going to pull those people out of that same struggle. It's called experience. And you have to learn to experience struggle, pain, suffering, investment, sacrifice, all those fucking things that nobody really likes to have, but you realize it's all the strengths that you're going to have. And it starts because

of the hardship that you've put in. And you got to learn, you got to overcome that. And that's the thing, man. Don't get down on yourself because you the hardship that you've put in. You got to learn. You got to overcome that. And that's the thing, man. Don't get down on yourself because you got dealt a shit hand of cards. Learn to say, okay, how the fuck can I take this shit hand of cards and make these three twos fucking play the game? I'm going to rock my ass off. You know what else?

Prison was the best thing to happen to me. But guess what else? Everybody that's listening, if you were born in America, you won the lottery. Right? They used to tell us that when we were kids. I grew up like, man, you're born in America. Yeah. We have so much opportunity. I can remember kids telling us, dude,

I can remember teachers telling us, you're lucky you live in America, not China. In China, they kill people for speaking out against government. Oh. I mean, I feel like Mind you, we said in the anthem, there's flags in the classroom. That's not what I in the classroom we used to do the pledge allegiance everything yeah hold on we do it here every day at 10 o'clock just so you know um you were telling me that's very patriotic like think about that shit dude it's important to

do that we have become that yeah like now people won't even speak up dude you guys have american steel it's impressive oh and the way i'm lacking. I said, man, this is a real American patriotic company right here. That's right. Great culture here, too. Thank you. Everybody's nice. The value system's intact. It's amazing.

It literally made me self-reflect on things that I need to get better on as a leader, just in my own business. You know what I mean? So I love it, man. Dude, I think the value system is intact out there in the real world too it is just it takes people like us on the motherfucking internet or in the news like dude when I go out in the real world and talk to people dude they're cool they're cool yeah like 99 yeah yeah do you have one in a shit interaction of course yeah but I don't look at that person and say oh yeah well that person's asian fuck fuck asians like no you say fuck you yeah that's funny shit oh that's too far bro that's the mentality we got everybody's got right now it's like you know

they have one bad experience with somebody or something and it's a fucking you know fuck all that whole group of people no kind of weird yeah just fuck that guy just because somebody's an asshole to you or you met somebody was a dick doesn't make them like a racist no at all they could be having a bad day their dog could have just died have you ever had a bad day yeah that's what i'm saying like shit like not everybody i think i think my one of my universal uh truths something i'm taking from this was a great great uh great show one of my universal truths that i like to always think about is that you know from the beginning of time and forever on after you know thousands of years after we all leave this planet there's always going to be good and there's always going to be evil.

Which one are you going to perpetuate? Right. And then, and so you can be on either side of that line, right? Like, but, but forever and ever, always and always those two things will always exist.

And those two things will always try to fight each other. Which one are you going to perpetuate? Which one are you going to push? Which one are you going to live by? Which wolf are you going to feed? That's right. That's it. And so, I mean, I think if you, to push? Which one are you going to live by? Which wolf are you going to feed? That's right. That's it. And so, I mean, I think if you live by that and you can take the rest of the stuff, you put that stuff to the side.

Are you going to be for good or are you going to be for evil? And that is a choice that only you can make for yourself. And not only that, you know inherently which is which. You absolutely do. Just to add another thing, for me, not everybody's going to get locked up. Not everybody has been dealt bad cards, right? Even I would argue maybe I wasn't really dealt bad cards compared to this guy over here. Bad decisions.

Bad decisions. Yeah. But let's say you're somebody that you come from a very good family. No struggles. Your parents, maybe they worked their ass off to give you a better life and you don't necessarily have any struggle. What's amazing about your journey of actually doing something in life, something impactful, right? We all know the more people that you serve, service to the many is what leads to greatness is what Jim Rohn would say.

Let's say you're somebody that doesn't have hardship. I guarantee you when you're on your path to trying to actually build something, you're going to be faced with some hardships. You're going to be faced with some challenges that can give you that fuel, right? And give you that experience that you need, that molds you and gives you that gratitude and, you know, that, that, that wisdom, that experience that you need to, to carry on for. So if you're somebody out there that you, maybe you come from good background you don't have any real struggles you don't have to get in trouble to me make a story of yourself or be inspirational or build something you come from a good set of family and there's no

struggles but i promise you when you start going on down that path of building something you're going to be faced with challenges straight it's just the way it is. So, lots of them. Well, DJ and Sal got their final word. Can I have my final word? Sorry about that. I've been kind of the history nerd, but I'm going to be a history nerd again. December 7th, 1941, Imperial Japan drops the bomb.

Excuse me. Attacks, bombs Pearl Harbor, right? A couple of weeks after that, Nazi Germany and fascist Italy declares war on the United States of America. Do you guys know that when that happened, the week that that happened, the couple of weeks that that happened, the United States military was not ranked one or five or seven or nine or even 13th. They were ranked the 19th army in the world at that time. They were actually ranked below Holland and Belgium. And yet within a year,

they had built the greatest fighting force that the world had seen. And prior to the beginning of the war, prior to our entry into the war, it took a whole year to build a B-17 bomber. After we realized that there was a threat, it took us 17 days. We figured out how to do it in 17 days. The people of America at that time, black, white, Jew, Gentile, Protestant, Catholic, whatever, they realized that there was a threat and they came together. And what I don't think that most people understand, and I think our listeners understand this, but I don't think most people understand this in our country. This whole woke mentality, this whole mentality of victimhood and blaming, this is the threat. And if good people, black, white, Jew, Gentile, Protestant, Catholic, et cetera, et cetera, if we don't come together and band together and fight against it,

there's probably a threat greater than Hitler that's going to take over. And I don't mean to sound melodramatic, but that's how serious it is. So I think everybody of goodwill should band together and just say, no more. We're not going to put up with it anymore. I think it's happening.

I think that's happening. I mean, from my observations, you know, because I was pretty much a year ahead of what... I was saying this exact same shit a year ago. And I got the receipts. Go listen. Um, now the resistance that we get on these messages is far less and the promotion is far more. So I think people are saying, Hey man, wait a minute. Fuck you guys. And, and dude, that's what needs to happen there. Listen, there is a time and a place

For you to look at someone and say hey, fuck you Okay, that's the truth and you could say that with love You really can You could say it could mean hey, fuck you. Don't come back around me until you figure the fuck out And and dude unless we start doing that And and and this is something for the parents Like this is where and and I'm going to, I'm going to leave off with this. Um, you people that have kids and you're being quiet and you're

letting them do all this crazy shit, like put your kids in masks and all this fucking bullshit and keep them out of school and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You realize that your silence is creating a massive problem for your children, a massive problem. And if I were, if it were me and they were my kids, I don't have kids and I get up here and speak about it all the time. But if it were me and I was silent and I was letting all this shit happen, I couldn't live with myself. I'd be fucking super ashamed. And you should be too. If you're fucking sitting there agreeing with everything that we say and not saying a motherfucking word about it. It should bother you. I think that's the show. Oh, I'm going to thank him for coming on. But dude, I'm going to wrap the show up with that, man. Craig, I really appreciate you coming up,

man. I know it's a long, long journey. I want to have you come back on the show again, for sure. It was a great show. I really appreciate what you're doing. And when you say back on the show again, for sure. It was a great show. I really appreciate what you're doing. And when you say, I just want you, when you say we need more leaders, bro, you're, you're leading and it's, it's super cool. So I appreciate what you're doing and what you're saying and what you're about. And yeah, man, if you guys, what's your, what's your IG? Real Craig Long 45. Okay. So you guys should go give him a follow, follow up on what he's doing.

You do some stuff on TikTok too, right? I am on TikTok. Yeah. What's your TikTok handle? TikTok is Craig Long 45. Okay. Guys, give this man a follow, support him. He is a great dude.

And leading. Put that in the show Cause that is fucking hilarious. Leading so good. That's fucking hilarious. I think he just kicked the chair off underneath DJ. I almost ate shit right there. Yeah, you did.

Oh, that was hilarious. Anyway, bro, I appreciate you. And, uh, thanks for being on the show,

man. Absolutely. Thank you, Craig. You guys love the show. If you thought the show was good, if you gained some perspective, share it around for us. Okay. We don't do any of the advertisements are marketing. Some of these bigger shows do, uh, we run entirely on word of mouth and I like it. I like that we do that. I prefer that. And that means if we're doing good, the show is doing good. Um, so if

you guys wouldn't mind, if you got something out of it, have the courage to share the conversation. Okay. I know a lot of you guys don't share these conversations because you think that they, people are going to look at you a different way. They probably will. They'll probably look at you like you have a spine. All right. So I love you guys. I appreciate you guys. And I'll talk to you next time.