REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 144. Personal Responsibility Ft. Jason Khalipa

Episode Date: September 25, 2021

We need more healthy discussions amongst people with dissimilar opinions. On today’s episode, Andy and the crew are joined by former CrossFit Games Athlete turned entrepreneur Jason Khalipa. They discuss contrasting views regarding the vaccine mandates, 75 Hard and the media misreporting the facts and why personal responsibility and selfless leadership is the need of the hour for America to get back to its real glory.

What's up guys, it's Andy Purcell and this is the show for the realest, say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society. And welcome to motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have a full-length show and it is going to be awesome. Before we get into the show, I'd like to remind you to pay the fee. What is the fee? You might be wondering. Only if you're new here, you might be wondering. But the fee is very simple.

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Dr. Sal. He's Dr. Sal along with Dr. Gates. I mean, hey. Yeah. Listen, if he can do... I identify as a doctor now. You know, man... I do.

I mean, you can't take it from me. I identify as a multi-billionaire. Well, welcome. I'm doctor and you're multi-billionaire. That's right. That's right. What should I identify as? White lightning.

Oh, you're the black face of white supremacy. There we go. Fuck yeah. If it comes with a credit score, I'll take it. You know what I'm saying? Oh, fuck. And we also have one of my favorite humans here today who is an amazing dude. You guys have heard him on the show here today, who is an amazing dude.

You guys have heard him on the show before. Mr. Jason Kalipa. Thanks for having me. What's up, brother? Good to be here, man. We came in for this 100-mile century bike ride, and I didn't know I was going to be able to jump on the show, but hey, here and ready to make some magic. He's our one friend from California. Yeah.

He's our token. No, bro. Fleischman's our friend. Oh, that's true. That's true. Ed's our friend. No, bro. Fleischman's our friend. Oh, that's true. That's true. Ed's our friend. That's true. Well, didn't he move though?

Yeah, Ed did. Ed bought an island. Or he's moving. Yeah, he bought a fucking Hope Island up in Maine. He bought an island? Yeah, bro. Well, that's another level.

Yeah, sure is. Well, Ed does things on another level. Jason was making fun of Missourians yesterday, so I had to, you know, maybe constantly remind him on how Missouri is maybe superior to California.

And I'm a doctor. So I have definitely superior. He even tapped me when the sunset was going nice. Look at that. And I'm like, yeah, that's every day here. It's a fucking beautiful sunset.

We finished this ride, man. And we, we had a beautiful, I mean, it was, that was, that was bad-ass.

So Missouri's great. Yeah. He wants to know if we had a beautiful I mean, that was badass. So Missouri's great. Yeah. He wants to know if we had good wine. I said, no, wine's shit. Stick to California. Guess what? We drink it anyway. Yeah, wine, Bud Light, same thing. Yeah, it's all the same shit. You guys went up by Herman, though, right? Yeah, we went out to Herman.

We went from we rode all 100 miles on the Katy Trail, which is a big trail here in Missouri. It's 230 miles long, but we went out basically. So you rode all the 100 of the 200? Of the 230. All 100 of the 230. Is that like a 60% of the time?

Technically, if we're getting down, we only rode 50 miles of it because we were 25 out, 25 back. It's called Garmin. You probably challenge it, but you're wrong. Does CNN track your miles? Yeah, it's a CNN poll. It has to be. Well, here's how we know if he's telling the truth or not. How's your butthole?

Very sore. Very, very sore. And it's not like we were saying. It's not the actual hole itself. It's the area in that which protects the hole. It's the gooch. I mean, it was under fire. Jason, what'd you say?

He went hard in the taint? Bro, I was under fire. Jason, what did you say? He went hard in the taint? Bro, I'm telling you. Okay, so riding a road bike, getting the little suit, put the helmet on, you ride on the road. And I figured for this challenge that we're going to do, we're going to have 15, 16 guys. You don't want to be on the road. You're going to get hit.

I don't want to die. I'm not dying that way. It's like, oh, we'll do it on the Katy Trailer. No, you're going to die in a domestic extremist camp. Correct. For sure. Like the rest of us. I'll see you there.

I'll die going out before that. And then I was like, oh, we'll do it on the Katy Trail. You know, it's not that bad. We get out there and it's not that bad. However, when you're out there for six, seven hours and at the bumps of the gravel going, you realize, man, your ass ain't in shape for that. Your ass, DJ, might be in shape for that. your ass ain't in shape for that. Your ass, DJ, might be in shape for that.

My ass was not in shape for that. At what mile do you realize, oh, fuck? I think it was the halfway, like 54 miles. So here's what happened. The 25 out, 25 back. I was like, okay.

And then he got us some burritos. And dude. Oh, fuck. You're bullshit. I swear to God. You ate burritos on a hundred mile bike so we stopped we had our burrito when that thing when that energy kicked in for me i feel like a million bucks i thought it was you're blowing you the wind was

listen you got another cheat codes yeah dude there's something wrong with all of us fuck i'll tell you though man like about mile it starts, that's when the grunt work starts to feel in. And we got off the bike for a quick minute and we got back on. And when I got back on at that point in time, I knew I was like, man, my ass is in trouble. It was like, I mean, it was that point in time. Did you have one of those moments in the beginning though? Like, let's just say like mile 10 or 12 or 15.

You're like, fuck. Yeah. Like mile one. Yeah. Mile one. I was like, fucking A, man. Cause it's a lot. I mean, you realize, you You're like, fuck. Yeah. Like mile one. Yeah. Mile one. I was like fucking a man. Cause it's a lot. I mean,

you realize, you know, going out, everything's fun leading up to it. It's like anything. It's like life. The first step is always like the reality sets in. Fuck.

I signed up for this, you know, but it was great. We had a, we had a fabulous day. It was a lot of fun. I saw Mike Taylor in the locker room this morning. He's struggling.

Oh yeah. He was struggling. Hey, but he got it done. He got it done. That's it. It doesn't matter. He actually went 104 miles. He's struggling. Oh yeah. He was struggling. Hey, but he got it done. He got it done. That's it. It doesn't matter. He actually went 104 miles.

That's because he got lost. Gotcha. He was the only one we were waiting for, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah. When I walked into the locker room this morning, you know, Mike's usually pretty much like, Hey man, what's up? You know, good mood chipper.

He's like, he's sitting in a locker with his head in his hands. He didn't even hear it. We walked in like, what's up, bro? I go, what's up, bro? And it took him literally like three full seconds to respond. And that's a tough dude. I've known him for a long time.

I told Cody Klein today, he asked, and Mike Taylor's, I mean, he's been here longer than I've been here, right? So he walked in, Mike's a big dude. And he walked, I told Cody today, I said, when he was pulling up and he was crossing that street we were all sitting there we've been laughing our asses off for 40 minutes waiting for him drinking beers you know hanging out we're all you know we're gonna take our team photo and i thought when he i could see the look on his face and i thought when he got off that

bike i'm thinking this motherfucker's gonna come punch me in the face you know what i mean like today's the day that mike's like fuck you man i'm out you know now he looked legitimately mad yeah he was pissed and he's a big dude. Oh, yeah. He's not somebody you want coming after you. Mike is, there's very few people that I do not want to get into physical, like, listen, I don't like physical altercations, but there's a few people that, you know, you

just don't want to do that. He's one of those people. Like, that's it. Well, shit, you guys remember what happened in the fucking three-on-three basketball tournament? Yeah. Yeah, I won. Mike, well, no. I remember that, but fuck, won. Mike, well, no. I remember that. But fuck, man. Mike, Mike, man.

Hey. Yeah, he about got in your ass. He almost got it. You know what I'm saying? He bumped into you outside. He walked in that day. He was so pissed off because DJ was reffing the games. And he walked in.

He was so pissed. You know, I could tell, dude. This dude's like my bro. Yeah. Like, I'm like, hey, what's up? He goes, all he said was, you're fucking boy. Talking about you. Dude, man.

That should have been fucking football on fucking basketball. All that was, that was a football game. The whole fucking league was a football game. And who won? The South team won. Thank you. Good job. Who cheated though? Sal. That is not true. That is not true. You didn't cheat. I did not cheat. How did I cheat? You didn't bring in. That is not true. 1000%. That is not true. You didn't cheat.

I did not cheat. How did I cheat? You didn't bring in people from outside the company. Bro, you flew in people to sell on your fucking team. Get the fuck out of here. If I flew people in, I did think, I will tell you, I did think about reaching out to David Lee and see if we could make that work. I brought in Mike Trotter. I am better than Mike fucking Trotter.

No, but the thing is, nobody, but nobody else knew that at the time. I didn't either. You walked in, bro. There's no way you're better than Mike Trotter basketball. For sure but the thing is, nobody else knew that at the time. I didn't either. You walked in, bro. There's no way you're better than Mike Trotter basketball. For sure. 1,000%. For sure. Really? 1,100%. But listen, I didn't think that when I recruited him. I thought, man, this guy's... I'm just saying that because you're pretty bad. Oh, I'm terrible. No, he's terrible.

But I can fucking compete. Mike, Mike. Mike, you're worse. Mike made us look bad. Mike. When I say us, I mean, you know, us. Define us. This is not a visual show. No, no show you know us as black people he made the entire black population look like shit bro that is racist oh i mean that's racist i am the black face of white supremacy so hey holy shit dude james lawrence was just here yeah it was good to see him i was thinking about him you know this morning when i saw mike i was

thinking about james i think if you guys had to get up and do that again and then again for 101 days just a bike ride i know dude we were like 50 miles in and him and i were having that conversation i was just seeing myself dude this guy did that not not just like he did the swim a bike and a run i'm thinking even just doing this bike ride for 100 days would be like just brutal And this guy did two other parts in that every day. I mean, that's, that's, it's super impressive, dude. I don't think people really understand how, like I, to be completely honest, bro, like, I don't think people truly grasp how huge of a human accomplishment that is. Yep. I think it's the biggest physical feat.

Probably ever. Ever. In the history of man. Yeah. Ever. You know, the Tour de France gives a, they get like the, they get the torch for that,

for like the hardest physical feat. But I got to be honest, like I don't, not one of those guys could do what he did. No. Not even for 50 days. No. What was his average finish time?

So it was relatively fast and then he got hurt and then it kind of slowed down. But I think he still did them in like 14 and a half hours. I was thinking about that because the bike ride took us like six hours and this guy's 14 hours on like 10 hours off for a hundred days. A hundred and one. Yeah.

That's nuts. Like it's absolutely nuts. It's, I don't know, man man like i think about him a lot like when i'm going through hard times yeah like if i'm going through a hard time dude i think about people that are tougher than me and people who are doing harder shit than me and i just think like god you're being a total fucking pussy bro like that's my internal dialogue i'm like dude you are being a total bitch is it being a bitch like it's the way I look at it, man, it's like, dude, that, like, those people, like, the Chad Wrights, the fucking David guy, like, they have tapped into something that just,

like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, it's hard to even, like, a normal person to even grasp that. Like, I feel like they've tapped into something that, like, is beyond. Well, it's like playing a musical instrument, dude. You have to, you have to try to play a musical, like, for guitar, right? Like, I took guitar lessons for a long time. I'm fucking terrible. And I'm pretty good at everything I do pretty quick. Yeah. So I'm still terrible after many years of guitar lessons. And what that did for me was that allowed me to appreciate people who are really good at guitar.

So now I watch people who could play and I'm like, holy shit, man. Like it's so like, if you don't have that perspective, it's hard to understand how great something really is. And I think most people just don't appreciate that feat because they don't have never gone out and done something that even one marathon or one bike ride or one this, you know. We talked about this yesterday, too. Perspective is the greatest thing you can have in life experience, you know, like like even small pieces of it, just to appreciate the challenges that people have overcome in life in general, physical, mental, whether it's a skill set or a grind, like there's just something about having that taste of perspective so you can understand. And I think when you look at the world today, that's the middle ground of the table. It's like having a taste of perspective is really the

answer. Like you have to understand until you judge. Yeah. I don't know. I know this. I know I've, I've done some things in life and I've, I've done some hard things in life, but fuck, that's just a different level of fucking, it's just a different level. Here's what I can tell you. Commitment for sure. Yeah. He's got a very, very, very conditioned ass. Yeah. Well, hey, man, you know what's cool about this show? And this is something I was going to, you know, this show is not planned. So we're probably just going to go all over the place. But the doctor's TV show, did you see that this morning?

They did a hit piece on me. You told me about it. So they brought on some people to talk about 75 hard. I wouldn't say, okay, it's not a total hit piece because they brought on some people to talk about 75 hard um i wouldn't say okay it's not a total hit piece because they were they brought in two people who did well and then they brought in two people who were critical i respect that that's better than what we get most of the time okay but what's funny to me about this program that people refuse to understand is that it's not a fucking diet okay like the guys kept saying, oh, this extreme. Well, hold on. We're looking at on the screen right here. Notice the ad that runs right before, right before my piece. It's for

Beachbody's fucking 14 day bootcamp shit. Okay. That they're paying to advertise. Now I'm actually out here teaching people how to learn a skill of how to be more, uh, discipline, how to, how to learn a skill of how to be more disciplined, how to develop confidence, how to become self-reliant, how to build grit, how to build fortitude, how to build the things they need to be successful in life. And these fucking idiots can't even like read my book and understand what this is about. Instead, they talk about this extreme diet and then they get blown up on the Internet because there's literally hundreds of thousands of people who have done the program who understand that there isn't even a fucking meal plan diet included. You eat according to your goals. You're encouraged to find someone to help you do a healthy diet during that time. And it just shines a light on how ignorant people are willing to be and how much research they aren't willing to do and how critical they are of things that actually help people. Here we are in a pandemic where 80% of the people dying are obese. And I've dedicated my entire last

two and a half, almost three years to helping hundreds of thousands of people get not obese. Okay. And then also, by the way, fix a whole bunch of other shit in their life. And these continued hit pieces, you guys are so dumb that you don't even, you don't like the program and all you're doing is pouring gasoline on my fucking fire. So I, what did I, what was my response when I saw it this morning? I love it. I was like, dude, this is great. Because dude, it's totally free advertising. But it's just interesting to me how weak society has actually become to where drinking a gallon of water a day or training every day or training twice a day is somehow extreme. Bro, every winner I know, every motherfucking one

follows almost all those rules regularly on a daily basis. All I'm doing is push starting people to start to develop these qualities. And by the way, the whole program for you guys that know is a year long program. They're like, oh, after 75 days, everybody's going to fucking go back to, you know, no, you don't because there's actually more to do. And it's on and off over the course of a year. And I can think of a lot of motherfucking things that are a lot more unhealthy than that. Like injecting yourself with some shit that doesn't have any fucking studies done on it over the longterm or going to McDonald's once is more dangerous than doing this program with the amount of chemicals that are in our food. Like, dude, the hypocrisy of these fucking people these days

is beyond me, dude. Like, are we really that soft as a society? Are we really gotten to the point where we are going to call things extreme when they're actually helping people? Are we going to eating healthy is some sort of extreme shit. Drinking water is some sort of extreme shit. Like what the fuck is going on? And these are supposed to be doctors. Bro, what... I'm asking you guys, what is going on? Well, I think when you look at the education on doctors, most doctors don't even have one semester of nutritional education. That's problem one. So when you have no education,

it goes back to perspective. What is your real perspective? If you have no fundamental training in this, we have a plastic surgeon and OBGYN. Not only that, bro, go look at the people who criticized it. These people are not in fucking, they're not healthy. They look like they've been living in a motherfucking cave for like years. And because you got some fucking letters behind your name, you're going to tell people what's extreme. Listen, I want to clarify this for everybody listening. Nothing that I'm about in any way at all, anything I say, anything I do, any company I build, any project I'm involved in, none of it is for the average motherfucker. Not one thing. Not me and not anything I'm associated with.

So if you're somebody who wants to do what's good for everybody, I'm probably not the guy. Like there's, go to Weight Watchers, bro. Go to Jenny Craig. Those, they will coddle you and make you feel good about your weaknesses. Well, I won't.

But in truth, that's, that is a nutritional program. Yes. That's, yours is a mental discipline. You could put fucking Jenny Craig inside the program. That's yours is a mental discipline. You could put fucking Jenny Craig inside the program. That's the whole thing. And these people don't even know that. There's no nutritional guidance inside the program. It's discipline to the accountability structure that happens every single day program. But dude, think about it from this. It just shows you exactly, listen, it shows you exactly what's wrong with our media.

Like this is something that we know for sure, right? Like all of you listening, you all know exactly what 75 Hard's about. Most of you, because you listen to the show. If you listen to the show longer than today, you know what it's about. Here we have the media reporting exactly how the media reports on everything. Okay. So how much did they leave out about the program? How many of these pieces, the good morning America piece, this piece, these other pieces that these big media outlets have done on my program. How many of these people have misreported it heavily? All of them like defamation. No, no, dude. I got,

I got an email from a lawyer about that. I should sue them for this. Okay. And I'm not really a sewer, like say whatever the fuck you want, bro. You're just building the program for me. So I don't care, but like, I'm not, and I'm not into suing. Like, I think that's bad karma. It's just not what I do now. If I need to, I will, but I think this shit's funny. Right. So, but my point of saying this is think about all the other shit they're telling you. Think about the shit that you don't have all the like, do we have we have we have intimate details of this program. You know why? Because I fucking wrote it. OK, so we know for a fact what it is. And these people are willing to go on TV over and over and over and over again

and misrepresent what the program's about. We have influencers out there going out and misrepresenting what the program's about. That's the problem in America in itself. The problem in America in itself is that people have an agenda and they mold the facts to fit an agenda and then pipe it out like it's truth. And we know for a fact that none of this shit that they said on this is true. So let's consider that. Okay. You guys who, who, who love me for my personal development and who hate my politics. Let's consider the fact that that same exact thing is happening to you in all these other scenarios too, where they're telling you only parts of the story. Okay. That's my point of the whole thing. Now we can talk about whatever you want. No, but I mean, I think that there's your, there's your, your magnifying glass right into

the problem that's going on in society is they try to cause drama in a situation that really should have no drama, right? In a situation where you only know bits and pieces of it and only bits and pieces are trying to share the controversial pieces that they want to piss people off with. If you watch the video, it's hilarious because they, they's hilarious because they bring on two people that went through 75 hard, had amazing transformations. They did really well. They're trying to lead them into these negative questions. They're baiting them, right?

They're like, oh, so it must have been really tough. How was it? Like, no. No, no, no. What they said was, now you had great results on this extreme diet program. Motherfucker. It's not a diet.

Yeah. You can choose any diet program, any, anyone you could put fucking Weight Watchers in it. You can put Jenny Craig in it. You can get a custom program from whoever the fuck you think you need to get it from. It has nothing to do with that. Really. The whole thing is you got to eat in accordance to what you need to change and that's it. And there's no deviation from that. And that's not extreme. And I'm sick of this fucking pussified society that calls every single thing that is hard, every single thing that is beneficial as difficult. Like, dude, if these motherfuckers really cared about people's health, bro, we'd have fucking obesity passports.

We'd have fucking fines for people that were so much overweight. We'd have fines for people who didn't work out and we would tax McDonald's at 200%. That's the truth. Those things, and I'm not saying we should do that. What I'm saying is if it was really about that, those are going to be the solutions when you have 80% mortality rate of people who are obese. Okay. So they closed down the gym and McDonald's drive-thru was still open. Which is a great reason why Jason's here. But before we move on to that, if you are doing 75 hard and you're looking for a nutritional program, the first form app is a great way to get started. And I'd be happy to navigate that journey for you. And it is a great,

you know, foundation. I try and I hope everybody everybody appreciates that i try hard as fuck not to be the guys who jam shit down people's throat i don't even know that you've ever mentioned the app no i don't i don't mention the app i don't mention anything because here's the thing i'm not here to sell i'm here to help that's right okay and hopefully my my thing is is if i help you enough you'll reciprocate and understand that, first of all, my character and how I help should speak to the quality of the things that we, the other things I do. That's just what I hope. I believe people are smart enough to figure that out. I believe people are smart enough to support people they believe in. I don't need to jam it down people's throat. I hate that shit. I hate selling. And if people want to buy it, cool. If they don't want to buy it, great. But I do hope

people appreciate that I'm not on here constantly like everybody else saying, I'm the best. Buy my shit. Buy my shit. Look, dude, there's lots of shit you can buy. I appreciate the people that buy from me, but I'm not going to ever jam it down somebody's throat. But feel free. Yeah.

I mean, hey, I mean, where he's not, I'm happy to help you too. Go to the first, go to the app store. No, but I think. Tell them about it for real. We never help you too. Go to the app store. No. Tell them about it for real. We never talk about it. It helps people. Well, and Jason and I are actually, you know, this is the commonality.

And Jason Kleepa, for those who don't know, is an icon in the CrossFit space. He's a 2008 Games champ. He's an icon in the human space. Yeah, one of the best humans I've ever met in my entire life. One of the few fitness people that I greatly enjoy being around. And he said, hey, we want to get down there and do one of these cool fitness events. Signed up, did 100 Mile. He's just here to do fitness together. And I had the opportunity to be on his collective today and teach him his people.

And the core commonality that brought us together, it's not about selling. We've always been, how the hell do we leave the world? How do we get the fitness space to be more collaborative and better? And it goes back to our app. We're measured by how well we help people, not how much we sell shit. In fact, this is a conversation we had on the call today. It's not about the numbers of dollars. It's about what are you doing to make sure that you're providing the best value for that person to change their life? And if you do a great enough job, they will support you. That's just the nature of how the world works. In the fitness space,

unfortunately, there's too many people that will scout the dollar off the top and they don't give a fuck about what you do as far as results. For sure. And we talked about our app or our brand in general is, hey, before you buy a dollar or spend a dollar or buy anything from us, let us help teach you the fundamental basics on how to track your food and and how to eat, and how to start progressing you in the right direction. You don't have to buy supplements to do that. You have to invest that say, hey, we're going to meet you halfway. We'll give you all the education. We'll give you the blueprint. I'm going to give you all the one-on-one interaction. We're going to give you a coach. We'll give you everything that we can possibly give you for free to meet us halfway, but all

you have to do is give us the effort. And when you start talking about commitment to yourself, that's all I want. That's all we want. And I think the commonality with Jason is, hey man, I just love fitness and I love helping people. And that fuels my tank. That fuels our tank. And it's a purpose-driven mission that we get to get behind and help people change their lives. I mean, I feel I have the best fucking job on planet earth. Every day I get to come behind and help people change their lives. I mean, I feel I have the best fucking job on planet earth. Every day I get to come in and help people change their lives. And it's not about how much protein powder they buy. It's about watching that before and after picture. And then the story that goes with it. And I've, when I lay my head down at night, I'm like, dude, I have the luckiest fucking dude on earth. Well, we, I think we all are.

Yeah. And dude, listen, I wouldn't trade where we, this is, this is what I said Monday in our meeting. Like, dude, I could pick up the phone today. And people don't realize this, but I could pick up the phone today. I have venture capital firms hitting me up fucking every day. I could pick up the phone today and exit this company for literally billions of dollars. Not fucking millions, not hundreds of millions, billions. And I'm not doing it. You know why? Because I fucking love that. And you identify as a billionaire. I'm already a billionaire. Yeah, billions. And I'm not doing it. You know why? Because I fucking love that. And you identify as a billionaire. I'm already a billionaire. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, no, I am on the fucking paper. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's the thing. But like, the thing is, is like, dude, like, I don't have any interest in that. Like, I love coming here and seeing people fucking change. I love coming here and seeing guys like this build careers around these things. I love seeing all these people build their careers. Like to me, that's what fucking business is about. Yeah. And like it's ethical capitalism. You know what I'm saying? Like we talked, we talked about this one day when we were doing our walk, you know, we have these ultra rich people. I'm going to get off a totally different subject now, but dude, entrepreneurs need to do a better job at investing in their people and investing in their culture and investing in their communities. You know what I'm saying? Like, what are you guys

doing in your communities? And look, this is my fault too. I just started talking about this recently in the last year and a half. I've been on the podcast game for a long time. And so I am guilty of this as well. So don't take this as like, hey, you guys, not me. I'm saying us. We have legitimately lost track of part of our responsibility as humans, which is as entrepreneurs, because we've gone out and we've used the fertile soil of America to build careers for ourselves and build all these jobs and do all these things. And we, yes, Sal, we do a lot for charity and we do give a lot of money away. But like, I'm talking about more than that. Like I'm starting to look around our city and see like what a fucking shithole it is and feel like, dude, we got to do something, you know, and talk to other like-minded business guys, like the Sandstone guys, you know,

who come down and work out in here that we love. But like, dude, I would just like to see a movement start amongst entrepreneurs of truly getting involved in community from a grassroots level, guys. Like we're going to have to rebuild this country. If you hadn't noticed, this country is fucked. Okay. There's a lot of people who are socioeconomically fucked. And because, because that's so bad and they depend on the government so much, they can't break the cycle to improve anything. And the government's not willing to improve it. So who the fuck's going to fix it? Because I'm not willing to continue to sit here and watch our country rot away. I just hope that we can all start seeing part of our responsibility being serving our actual

community, not just giving away money, not just donating money, but actually getting involved in projects that help rebuild infrastructure, schools, education programs, things that are actually going to help these cities recover from this disgusting leadership that we've had for the last 20 plus years. You know, and I don't know, man, I got a lot of things on my fucking mind. Well, I want to revisit, though, because you brought up a great point earlier about, you know, you're the extremist for having a healthy lifestyle program that creates mental discipline, but the government's willing to shut down gyms and close places of getting humans in better shape and progressing their livelihoods. And I thought Jason would be a great person to bring into the show because he's a huge Gavin Newsom fan. And he was actually at dinner with him at French Laundry and Jason owns 20-

Oh, I thought that was you. Yeah. Yeah. You got a picture of me? Yeah. Yeah. He owns 20 gyms in California. He also programs for 1,000 gyms across the country.

And so there's nobody who wore it in the ass more than this man. And he had to battle it head on. So that's why he was able to ride 100 miles. That's right. He didn't even flinch about it. That's right. He was conditioned. And I will tell you, he's smart.

Jason is a callous asshole. he came with two pairs of pants he did i swear he had two pairs of pants i'm like man this guy's got conditioning here he's got experience so what's it been like bro well i mean so to clarify in california the ones that we own and operate in the bay area in particular those are the ones that got hit the hardest. We have four. So those four, I mean, it's been tough, you know, and this is like, you know, I live in California, right? I'm in the Bay Area. It's the vibe is a lot different than Missouri. Yes. It's a lot different. And I can share with you my perspective on that, but it's just from a Newsom perspective, he just got, he did he did not end up getting recalled. Right. Uh, and it wasn't even close to be honest. And I was really surprised. I thought it was going to be closer. The hardest thing. Everybody was surprised. Yeah. The hardest thing for me was,

um, you know, we had our gyms shut down in, in March and when you open up a business, right. And you sign a lease, you take on certain liability, certain like stress that go shit. you know, am I going to get enough members? Are we going to generate enough revenue? Are we going to do this? You never think to yourself, like one of those risks when you sign, like the government might come in and mandate me to shut down. That's never like even crosses your mind. And it's a scary time for any business owner who's going to especially renegotiate a lease because that precedent has been set. And so that's kind of like the start. So in March, obviously we shut down. We abided by state and local mandates. And we decided at that time as a leadership team that we would abide by state and local guidelines.

We chose not to place our personal biases on it, right, wrong, or indifferent. That's the line we drew in the sand. And that's what we've stuck with for now, almost coming on two years. And it's been difficult, right? But the hardest thing for me was we shut down in March. We reopened like five months later, outdoor only, not indoor. And then Newsom comes online. He's like, hey, we're shutting everything back down again. You can't be around other households and you need to wear a mask. And that same night, that same night, he gets caught at the French Laundry. And I just remember just thinking to myself, like, that is not a good leader. And I don't care your political perspective on it.

Like that instance, that one and only. I lost all respect because as a leader, you got to lead by example. And he didn't. And it was blatantly obvious, you know. Not only that, his like a little fake apology shit was cheesy dude yeah he'd laugh at the whole thing laughing yeah and i mean that was really eye-opening for me guys like you know i know it wasn't right but you know it was just the weirdest thing ever dude yeah it's that was that was that was super difficult and i mean it's been difficult being, uh, in a County that's, uh, you know, it's been difficult. Cause like we still currently have

mask mandates. So coming out here, it is a lot different for me. Um, but that's reality. That's where I live. And, and what's all that freedom feel like, bro? Being here. Yeah. Yeah. It's been, it's been different. It's been weird. Yeah. Dude, dude, people are conditioned to this shit. Now I was just down in Texas and, uh, the, the hostess who we see every time we go to Texas, she has a mask on, right? And like, dude, we haven or three times we went to that hotel and we met her, I remember thinking like, man, I can't understand what she's saying. I can't even see her face. I remember thinking it. And then this time I didn't even notice it until like she, like, and so I could, I caught

myself getting used to it. And I'm like, holy shit, dude, this is what's going on. This is what's happened. Yeah. Like these people have gotten so used to this. Yeah. That they don't realize, they don't even remember what it was before. We're used to it, right? Yeah. Like I'll give you a really good example. So my children, it was very fortunate because

of school we went to, they were able to go back to school before anybody else because they're in private school. They had to wear a mask, but we at the time didn't care because we just wanted our kids in school. That's really important to me. But the other day we were at a golf land and there was 10 kids there for a birthday party. And the other day we were at a golf land and there was 10 kids there for a birthday party. And the option was you wear a mask or don't wear a mask, you're outdoors. And some of the children decided to keep it on. I think, I don't know where that stems from, but I wonder what that's going to lead to in the future. And it's at least worth a conversation with parents about, you know, finding that line and that comfort zone for them.

And, you know, I come from an interesting perspective on this because, so my daughter had leukemia and she has an immunocompromised disease. So for the first year of COVID, like I was pretty anal for lack of a better term. I got tested twice a week, every week for a year from a local county fair. Right. So like, so that was just my, and when someone came to me and said, Hey, why are you wearing a mask? Or why are you getting tested? I'm like, dude, that's just just my, and when someone came to me and said, Hey, why are you wearing a mask? Or why are you getting tested? I'm like, dude, that's just where my comfort's at. Not only that, bro, she's immunocompromised for real. He's protecting his daughter.

I remember when I talked to you the first time, you're like, my whole goal is to protect Ava. I don't give a shit about what everybody else thinks. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and that's what, that was my opinion, right? I don't give a shit. You do you, I'm gonna do me.

Right. And, and, uh, no one's ever said extra precautions shouldn't be taken for that. That's right. And so, but then it's interesting because I went out and, you know, look, I'm, I'm cool to say, like, I got vaccinated, right? Nope. And. Oh, bro, you got to leave now.

Yeah. Fuck you. Yep, show's over. Yeah. We can't be friends anymore. We talked about this in the background. We have a funny skit and be like, hi, I'm Sal. I'm unvaccinated.

Hi, I'm Jason. I'm vaccinated. Yeah. We actually hang out. And it's okay. But then I ended up, you know, it kind of, it gave me this idea that you can kind of go out, go do whatever. And I ended up getting COVID. And so then my whole family ended up getting it anyways. This is like a month or two ago. But yeah, I- Make clear your daughter's fine.

Yeah. My daughter's fine. And her- She got it too? She got it. But yeah, I. Make clear your daughter's fine. Yeah. My daughter's fine. And her. She got it too. She got it. My son got it. But they all got vaccinated. Then they all got COVID after they got vaccinated. Well, I, yeah, I, the kids, they're not old enough yet. And at this point, right. It's really an interesting conversation we're going to have to have as a family, right? My son's 10, my, or my, my son's seven, my daughter's 10. They've already had COVID. So, you know, it makes it a little bit complicated when you're trying to have the vaccine because they just had natural immunity from COVID. So, you know, but California is definitely a different type of place than what I'm experiencing

here in Missouri. It's more like China. It's just different. Can I paint a picture here though? For those, he's not in- China, Florida? Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great show. We're watching it on the news. Jason lives in Silicon Valley where. Well, that's where honey lives too. I talk to honey every day. So like they're in the hotspot of weirdness of all the change and all the narrative. And so like Jason and I have, we've remained open contact the whole time.

Cause he's like, what's it like out there? And I'm like, we're riding around on cow, you know, on horses, tipping cows. Like we always have been, whole time. Cause he's like, what's it like out there? And I'm like, we're riding around on cow, you know, on fucking horses, tipping cows. Like we always have been, you know? And he's like,

really? You guys are, the restaurants are open. I'm like, yeah, we're going to get a steak tonight, bro. I remember we brought one of his key guys down MTV and we took him to the steakhouse.

First time we've been to dinner in a year. I drank, I wasn't drinking. I said, I'll drink a beer with you for that. Like if you want to have it, I'll have one with you, bro.

You know? So continue. No, it's just been a good life lesson though, about'll drink a beer with you for that. Like, if you want to have it, I'll have one with you, bro. You know? So continue. No, it's just been a good life lesson, though, about how media can impact the way you feel. And then just like, but also like trying to handle things with as much like grace and as much like, like just kind of, especially in the gyms, right? We got kicked over and over and over again. But we still decided as a business, we were going to draw a line in the sand and say, we're going to abide by state and low guidelines. And we're still sticking with it. There might be a time where we decide to go a different direction if something gets a little

too extreme. But at this point, that's where we're at. But it's been a difficult ride owning Jim's brick and mortar. In particular, I think you're going to see some lawsuits and some discrepancies come out in the future because we're in a very restricted state. But federal aid came in through the PPP program. And I'm curious what will happen to make whole the landlords and the tenants who are mandated to be closed for a long period of time. We have a location in Mountain View that was closed for 15 months. But rent on that is 30 grand a month. So what happens in that particular situation?

So I think we're not even seeing even a glimpse of what could occur in the future in regards to how that's going to be litigated. Could you imagine that? A gym? I know. I mean, dude, and how many businesses go up? And I'm thinking about, we think about rent here. Sal, I think about it every time I drive up and down the road, man. Like I've never, I've never forgotten how hard business is. Like, like people think I forgot, like, or like I've heard, I heard somebody say, oh, Andy doesn't really do anything anymore. He's got a team. How the fuck do you think I got a team, motherfucker?

You think I just shit that shit out? I'm very involved literally with everything. I talk to you every fucking day, multiple times a day about fucking everything. Like, dude, I don't, there's no, I'm not under any illusions about how business is easy. Like it's hard as fuck. And when I drive up and down the streets of these cities that I've been going to, I've been traveling again and I see this like closed business, closed business, closed business. And it doesn't matter if it's in Utah or if it's in Arizona or if it's in Texas or any of these places I've been to, close business, close business.

Like, dude, there is going to be a major snapback. Major. And it's like, it's sad, man. It is. But I mean, think about at scale, right? So I'm assuming you're in litigate. I don't know what you can talk about. When it comes to, I don't want to litigate.

I don't want to go to court. I don't want to do any of that stuff. Like you said, nobody wants to. I want to try and just have an amicable conversation with the landlord. Yeah. It just, you know, at some point everybody's going to have to take a haircut because I do feel for them too. Right. Like, and we just need to have a good discussion about it because this is unprecedented waters we're dealing with. I just, people need to be, you know, kind of work together. And so far we'll have some landlords who probably want to work together and some of them maybe don't and we got to figure that part out yeah man you know it's weird the times are weird

right now right like i think about that here's how i kind of think about it like i think about it after the civil war after the civil war after the civil war was over the fighting's done you know there had to have been some grace given, right? Like amongst each other, different opposing sides. And like, like at some point, dude, people are going to have to say, Hey, I forgive you. Okay. But let's work together from, from here on out. And that's for both sides. You know, we're going to have to let bygones be bygones at some point in a collaborative effort to move the country forward. Yeah, bro. I haven't even thought about that. Yeah. It's a huge deal. We've been through worse. People don't realize that. Like

they forget that. Like there's civil war was legitimately, they said brother against brother. You know what I'm saying? At some point, like these are your neighbors. These are people that you know from down the street. Very similar. Yeah. Right. Like that hate you and have fought against you and probably killed some people, you know, and you've probably killed some people they know. So we've been through worse and we've been able to get through it. I just hope that people can get to that point before it gets to extreme point. You know what I'm saying? And the extremists on both sides aren't helping the situation. You know what I'm saying? Like we have these left extremists and we have the right extremists, you know, and unfortunately everybody thinks that anybody that has an opinion that doesn't go along with the mainstream narrative is a right-wing extremist, terrorist,

all kinds of shit. But the truth is, man, I think, you know, 90% of America wants the same shit. We want our country back. We want to move forward. We want to work together. We want to improve. We don't want to deal with the crazies on either side. And, you know, we got to get there somehow. You know what I'm saying?

Like, what is that going to take? I don't know what it's going to take. I mean, coming, you know, coming from my background, like when you have a long format conversation like this, or when you actually sit down and have a beer together or whatever, you're more similar than you are not. For sure. Right. You could be vaccinated. I could not be vaccinated, whatever. Right. But I think that the media and, you know, even like the clickbait, like of your 75 hard, um, it was all clickbait, right? Is 75 hard going to whatever it's because it doesn't sell to say

75 hard is a good program and it works people most of the time whatever right it doesn't it doesn't um it doesn't it doesn't sell and i think that's the challenge of the media right now and i don't know if people have caught up yet is that it's all about how many clicks and engagement and it's not sexy to put up something that's like non-controversial the more controversial the more engagement yeah so all of a sudden the people who feed into this you know then they they start their views start to get further and further apart because they're seeing on the media but if you actually talk to people not as far apart as you think you know like well i think that's the thing too man i said this a couple of shows ago you know first first of all to that point you

know eyeballs on these cvs those are dollar signs, right? And so somebody is making money off of you watching that. Somebody's making money off that headline. I said this a couple of shows ago, man, I think of post nine 11, where it's like, what all brought unity to the U S was we had a common enemy. We had a face to that enemy. Right. And so I think that's, what's going to bring us together and get back to that point is once we realize who's been shaking the fucking jar of ants, right? Like who, who's been, who's been putting this divisive stuff out. Who's, you know, and you've got people that are like the 75 hard thing. People are writing that who they haven't even done their fucking research. Right. And so it's like, this is just divisive stuff. And I think, I think, and I think people are realizing that, right? Like enough

people are realizing, well, I know this. I mean mean i could just speak to my own experience with this every time they do that fucking it gives a huge insurgence of people doing the program yeah so like i you know and you know i think the reason they like to come at me is for the reason that you said like it produces clicks because i have a massive engaged following it's smart from that aspect. You know what I mean? You know what? And hey, thank you. It's awesome because you're shining a light on someone that's actually changing people and people are smart to figure that out. And DJ, I can't help it.

You were six or seven post 9-11? I would have been six, yeah. In diapers or out of diapers? Pull-ups. Pull-ups. But dude, he's right though. No, I get it. No, no, no no i mean bro there was no there was no man i gotta take my shot with him but there was no there was no uh racism after 9-11 there was no

uh misogyny complaints there was no white supremacy like there was none of this shit like it was just americans dude like say hey fuck we're coming together dude we're gonna fix this shit we'll fight about this other shit later antronron Brown was just here. Who's NHRA three-time world, world champion, greatest guy, you know, black guy. And if you don't follow him, he's one of the best, best humans has come through this building over the last, you know what I mean? Since we've been in existence. And he was telling me a little story about his racial experience in Indianapolis. He took his wife on a date and he's an interracial couple. And, uh, he was like, man, it was a TLC and bone thugs of harmony, you know? And I was out there looking at the, you know, and he's funnier than hell. And he's like, I was looking

at the crowd, look like a box of Crayolas, man. They're all singing together, dancing together. And I'm like, in my head, I'm thinking, cause that's America. That is America. That's not, that's the 90% that we're talking about. Like that's how, dude, you're talking about dude, I can sing most bone thugs and harmony songs. That's it dude. And DJ're talking about? Like, that's how... Dude, you're talking about... Dude, America's a... I can sing most Bone Thugs-N-Harmony songs. That's it, dude. And DJ can sing the TLC ones. That's 64 pack of crayons that we all wanted. See, we didn't get it.

We never had that. I don't know if you remember that. I remember it. We didn't have it. Yeah. The other kids had it. We had the rectangle one. It was like the 36 pack.

That's all right. It's still cool. It worked. But I'm just saying, the 64 pack of crayons, that what america is dude it's just always gonna be you know and the fact that we pointed each other and say i don't fucking like that because you're a different you're a different shade than me that's the most basic stupid conversation that could ever be had like we really or buy into yeah are we really that primitive of people like to where we look at people's pigmentation and think different i mean i i would say no but you want to like they want that you know i'm saying

you have crayola pulling this up on the screen for you crayola comes out with this shit you know i'm saying so they're making these crayon boxes now that are for shades of color like like they want that they like and that's that's what I'm saying. That was my point earlier, man. Yeah, but here, let me ask you this. Like, this is an honest question. Do you think that companies that over-pander to these issues are, I mean, I believe they think they're doing a good thing. You know what I'm saying?

Because I don't think the people at Crayola are bad for doing that. I believe that's their attempt to do what they believe is right without understanding that the more that we identify these differences amongst each other and these micro labels of all these different things, the less unity we will have. So like, I seriously doubt that they've even thought that through. You know, I saw a, this is how dumb some of these companies are. I saw a, who was it? The free ones. Oh, Domino's. I saw a Domino's commercial last night. All right. And like, dude, you know, people are dumb and inexperienced at every level, right? They have this big commercial that comes on. Domino's is giving away $50 million of freebies. You guys seen it?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. $50 million of freebies. And I'm watching it and I'm like, why are you advertising that? Why don't you just take that $50 million and add a plus one on their delivery and say, Hey, we thought about you. We gave you some free breadsticks. So we gave you some free this, that customer, then that value add to that customer is much higher than you running a motherfucking national program talking about how good you are. Like it doesn't like you're missing the point guys. Like if you want to hire me as a consultant, I'll come fix your motherfucking shit. I'm being serious. Like I can run that company better than you guys fucking run it with a five minute fucking phone call. Okay. But like, that's what I'm trying to show you. Like these people, even at the highest levels, it's not like they're sophisticated. That's the person who came

up with that idea is a young college graduated person who thinks they know because they got a marketing degree, right? They don't have the real world experience to understand what is actually happening on the ground level. And so like companies have to be more aware of what message they are sending by trying to go along with what's popular. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think it's a good thing to identify people by race and different race. I don't think it's a good thing. Racist. I don't think it's a good thing to die, to identify people by their sexual orientations. I don't think it's a good thing to do that, those things. I think that we should all unify under one flag and accept each other's differences and work together to make that one flag fucking great. And like, so when I see things like this,

like at first I think like you and I'm like, dude, fuck them. I'm not supporting them. But then the second thing I think is like, well, do they really know or are they just making a poor decision based off what the social narrative is? And I believe in more cases than not, it's that. Yeah. I don't know. I could be wrong. I know that pack of crayons cost more than the other 12 pack of crayons.

Well, and that doesn't make sense to me either. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't know, man. I just think, I think it's stupid. And the longer that we continue to harp on this stuff and make it seem like it's this big deal, like just yesterday, dude, here in st louis um it was parkway south i want to say high school somebody wrote some graffiti in one of the bathrooms right and you know what that's bullshit well it is right but but hear me out on this part right so the

students they did a walkout today they're protest protesting you know they're doing the you know no justice no peace chance and all of this shit, right? And so, in my head, I'm a St. Louis guy, like I pay attention to this shit, right?

And so, there's been a few of these situations, and when I say a few, maybe like, you know, six of these situations at different schools, Lindbergh had a situation,

right? Tell them what they did. But every single time, once they find the culprits, bro, guess who they are? They're fucking, they're black kids doing it.

That's what happened in Kirkwood over here. Same thing happened in kirkwood every single time what happened though because i'm on the way they wrote they wrote the n-word on the bathroom wall you know what i'm saying but every single time that happens you know i'm saying so it's like it's like well it's like that they did that like look dude i don't know if it's every single time or not we don't know that but it has been a few times where it's been it's been it's been planted to create a response to create this response you know and and that's unfortunate and it's just to me it's like dude i'm just tired of hearing well if anything's been shown to us none of these people who are with this this social agenda are above uh planting things or telling lies to get people to go along with it. I mean, we've learned that for a year and a half.

What I do like to see, though, and I never thought I would say this, is that, and this is great, the pure Black Lives Matter people, like the people who hear Black Lives Matter don't really understand where the money goes, but they say, hey, Black Lives Matter, those people are rising up against these vaccine mandates i fucking love it yeah because dude 60 now it was 70 i believe it's still 70 but what they're reporting is 60 of the black population is still unvaccinated across the country so the black lives matter uh not not the liberal white black lives matters i'm talking about the actual black people black people who are with the idea that black lives fucking matter which we all agree with okay those people are raising hell in new york right now man and they should i love here's the question like all right so let's conservatives here's a great opportunity right

unite with them let's go up and protest with i'm not for fucking vaccine mandates right i'm not for these vaccine passports nope but what's cool what's cool is bro i agree with you on that no what's cool is those people they are not the the white liberal fucking uh social clout chasing black these are just black people black people yeah who actually care about other black people and that's you know it's a great thing to see because it is discriminatory it is and and dude the the fact that these white liberals with their agenda are now getting blown up by the same people they tried to coattail in on is it's a beautiful thing but but here's the problem all right we go back to who's creating the the issues right and so we have the the border crisis going down in texas right now right this top picture here is

what was put out they got you know they're saying oh the the the you know first came out of state patrol they're they're i mean hold on let's stop here we're looking at this picture of uh the horse the horse the the uh mounted border patrol okay and where he's grabbing the Haitian refugee, which that guy shouldn't fucking be here anyway. And dude, look at that picture though. Like, look at it.

Like it looks really bad. I saw it. Yeah. I'm just saying, like, look at the dude's face. Yeah. Okay.

And look at the guy's face. I mean, bro, this is a gift to people that want to push this out, which is why they did it. Released at the same time that they're protesting. No, then you have Maxine Waters doing a press conference

saying they were whipping this dude. They didn't whip this dude. This dude was running and the guy fucking grabbed him. And that's the rain that you see. And like, dude, this is all evidence of what we just talked about, about them telling half the story or the story that they want,

that it's going to push their agenda there were 17 18 democrats that came out yesterday to hold a press conference to talk or maybe it was the day before to talk about the this border patrol asia whipping this haitian refugee which didn't even fucking happen and you know what that and by the way they suspended all those guys yeah okay but they but but they didn't do shit about their own fucking people droning a fucking 10 family car of people that weren't even fucking threats. Yep. I mean, I had my initial response to this when I saw him like, oh, fuck.

All right. This is bad. This is pretty bad. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying, though. Look at the picture, bro. Pretty bad. It looks bad.

Yeah. But here's the thing though like when you talk about you know having emotional growth right i because i've you know learned from other people remove your emotions let's get the full story there's i there has i'm sure there has to be more context and guess what if it's not more context that guy's a piece of shit let's do it you know what i'm saying dude on top of this dude look we got to be able to say, hey, certain people are not supposed to be here, regardless of the color of their skin. For sure. Like, this bleeding heart shit where we just let everybody come here and do. Those people have different cultures.

They have different beliefs. If they want to come here through due process like Madat had to do, great. I'm happy to fucking have them. I think most Americans agree with that. Because they contribute more than most americans correct they do cool dude uh immigrants that come here through the system are actually more financially successful and naturalized immigration they provide more tax revenue they create more jobs they are more successful americans than people who are born here because they have the perspective of what it's like somewhere else and they appreciate what we have here. This case, that is not the case. This is a person who should not be here. These are people who came here under the false idea that,

well, it's not a false idea, actually, under the idea that the government's just going to let them come here and fucking pay them to be here. And now they lost track of 5 000 of them they're now somewhere in the country dude they have no idea where they're and this is going to affect us for 30 years for forever how many how many terrorist attacks are going to come from this yeah well i mean not only that so like you know you have that story with immigration stuff but we're also they're not they're not talking about how the border patrol and the national guard uh soldiers who are down there protecting the border right now are getting targeted with uh water guns filled with hot sauce right like that's not making the news no and i know for a fact that's a verifiable

thing right like it's happening making jalapeno water super soakers yeah well i have a question for you so like you know you and i were talking briefly before we came in here and i look at like the overall landscape yeah it's it's, it's pretty, it's pretty challenging, right? You got from obviously the plot of Afghanistan, you got the border, you got, I mean, there's a variety of different things from the fiscal side of things. I mean, you got, obviously you got the COVID thing, the border. I mean, it's a lot, right? And I do think that people are smartening up a little bit to those type of images, a little bit, where maybe a couple of years ago, they would look at it and create a quick reaction.

I do think that people are starting to understand that there is a little bit more to it, or at least I hope they do, that there's two sides and that maybe they should learn more information before creating a conversation online about it. But I'm curious about for you, like you said, Hey, I want to, I'm going to go ahead and start doing a tour. Right. So you say, you know, entrepreneurs should start helping inside their, their, their communities, which I agree with. And I think there's a variety of ways you can do that. But I'm curious, like for you, when you look at the landscape politically, right. I mean, it's, it's, it's not good across board. And on right and left, you have a lot of people that just aren't doing a very good job.

What's the solution, in your opinion, and by touring, what type of awareness are you trying to build? set of skills that have to do with my knowledge about taking personal responsibility and building things and, you know, aligning with capitalist values, okay? And those values, entrepreneurship values matter a whole lot. And they create most of the jobs, all the jobs, they create all the tax revenue, they create all of the fulfillment or lack thereof for a lot of people, right? So, or not a lot, not all, but a big part, right? A big part of your job is what you do for a living and how much you enjoy it and how much you contribute and how much all these things. And so like when I talk about these things in the entrepreneur sense, it's not really far off from, you know, it's only a 10 degree shift to really make it political because those same values apply to creating a healthy household or a healthy community or, you know,

success in, let's say, a school board or any of these things. Those values are very similar. So really, it's no different than what I talk about now. It's just bringing awareness like, hey guys, what I hope to accomplish is I want to bring in a lot of my entrepreneur friends who are also people who believe in the goodness of America, who want to come out and explain to people why it's important to get involved, why it's important to get involved in their communities, why it's important for these small business owners that we're talking to or people who work for other businesses to get involved in what's going on. Because really my main goal in this, Jason, is to get, it's not to push a political agenda. It's to push the idea that all of us have a

responsibility and a duty to care about the freedom of this country, even if it's just a little bitty way, even if it's going to a school board meeting once in a while, even if it's keeping an eye on what's being taught to your kids. We all have little mountains and little battles that we need to fight in our own lives. And right now we're not doing that because we've taken our eye off the ball as a whole, like as a whole culture of entrepreneur to go out and make money and make more money and make more money and make more money. Well, guys, with that success and with that growth comes responsibility to your community. And my hope with doing this, you know, I have to I happen to be a pretty gifted speaker in terms of getting people to fucking take action. So I want to go out. I want to shake hands. I want to meet people.

I want to get them fucking fired up about getting involved. And however they get involved, whether it be they resonate more with a Democrat policy or a Republican policy or a middle of the road policy, I don't care because what's really happening here is that apathy is destroying our country. We've allowed ourselves to become apathetic and we've let the left far 5% who are fucking insane and the right far 5% who are equally as sane and insane, fuck everything up for the rest of us. So like, dude, the only way to really get that back on track is for all of us to say like, hey man, this is messed up. So let's all do what we can to make it better. And you know what? If you disagree with me, let's have a conversation. Let's debate.

Let's come to a solution together. Let's not, you know, like, dude, the greatest Americans that ever lived, these were not like super polarizing people. They were people who brought people together, which is why they were always killed. JFK was killed. MLK was killed. Abraham Lincoln was killed. The reason these people are killed is because nobody

wants unity at the top because they all get paid by our division and our infighting and our hate for each other. They shove this shit down our throats. And then while we're busy calling each other all these names, they take from our pockets and put in their pockets. And that's wrong. And I just feel like to me, the country's been good to me. Okay. So I feel an obligation to go out and at least contribute something to it. And this was the best way for me to utilize what I think my skillset is to contribute to that. And that's really it. So. That was a great answer. I mean, dude, look, I fuck, I might go and there might be five people and that's OK, because you know what? I'll take the time to talk to all five people and we'll and those five people will go out and do something. And that's all that's all

I'm trying to do, man. And I've got a bunch of patriotic friends who are not who are very reasonable people like you. OK, that are Jocko or Goggins or fucking all these other guys that will come out and donate a day of talking about their success story and what it meant to them and how they overcame and why it's important to do those things, you know, because dude, at the end of the day, bro, we need leaders, right? And leaders only lead one way, by example. And we have a lot of laziness going on in this country. We have a lot of lack of personal responsibility. We have a lot of, you know, blame and finger pointing when in reality, we all know who the fucking,

whose fault this shit is. It's our fault. It's my fault. It's other men's fault and women's fault that are my age that have taken for this country for granted for the last 20 years and haven't really given back in terms of a voice or, you know, some sort of service. Does that make sense? Yeah, no, I think what you're saying is resonating a lot. It wasn't what I thought. I mean, you're much more, I mean, you're very, you seem much more open-minded. I mean, I love the conversation you're trying to take these entrepreneurs who've been successful in their careers as leaders. You're saying, hey, you know, open your eyes to what's going on over here.

Yeah. And let's use some of your incredible talents because you probably have some type of talent. I mean, everybody does, right? But these entrepreneurs probably have incredible talents, identify different ways in your communities, and then eventually it'll create a snowball effect into something bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah, bro. And the other thing is like these people, there's so many people listening

right now and they're like, they think they don't matter. They think they don't have a following. They think they don't have the power to do anything. But what they have to realize is one, and then we have a multi-billion dollar, a hundred billion dollar program feeding us that same message that we don't matter. Our voices don't matter. Our actions don't matter. So we just got to do whatever they say. And that's just not the case. There's a thousand of them and there's 329 fucking million of us or 330 or whatever. Okay. So do the math. We don't have to do shit they say. That's the truth. Okay. Now, do I think we should pay taxes? Yes, I do think we should pay taxes because it's for everybody's good. Do I think

it should be over 50% or 60% like it is in California all in? No, it fucking shouldn't. That's theft. We have to come to some reasonable, accepted, because on the other side, libertarians are like, no tax. Well, hey, motherfucker, how are we going to get anything done? Like we need some responsible ethical leaders that and some compromise on everybody's ideals. You know, it's social media has created this echo chamber for everybody where nobody's willing to compromise on anything. Well, listen, if you're not willing. Now, I know I'm the guy who wears a shirt that says zero compromise. That's a different thing. I'm talking about my own personal standards for myself.

I do not compromise those standards for fucking anybody. OK, and I never will. You shouldn't either. But when it comes to living with other humans and it comes to working with other humans and it comes to finding solutions that work, we have to have some sort of compromise that is realistic and real and also fiscally works, right? Like it has to work. And what we have right now clearly doesn't work. Look at our debt. Look at the amount of tax we pay. Look how shitty everything is. It's terrible. Do you think eventually there'll be a new party

that comes to come? I'm really curious. Obviously the two major- You see that hat over there? Yeah. I'm on it, bro. I'm on it. All right.

Yeah. Look, dude, there needs to be a middle. Everybody's just, that will never work. That'll just fuck this. No, it won't. We need a party for reasonable Americans. We need a pro-freedom party with some people who understand the importance of freedom, which most Americans do. All right. We need people. We need a party where everybody can feel like they fit in,

where Democrats feel like they can fit in, where Republicans feel like they can fit in, and moderates can feel like they can fit in. And we might not all get exactly what we want, but let me ask you something. Do you always get exactly what you want? Not really. We don't really ever get exactly what we want. If we get 90% of what we want or 80% of what we want, I think that's a win. You know what I mean? So if we could get 80 to 90% of America to all agree, like, hey, if we can come to a good place here, are you with it? You know what I'm saying? Like people will be with it. Dude, because like I don't think people identify with, people don't identify anymore with this Republican shit or this Democrat shit. Like

it's all bullshit. You know, these guys are up there making all these laws, fleecing the public, taking the tax dollars, getting kickbacks. Like, dude, if the average human really knew how these motherfuckers came in and then walk out, they come in a normal human and walk out 30 years later worth a billion dollars or $400 million like Nancy Pelosi, if they really knew how they fucking did that, there would be a revolt in the streets right now. But people think that shit's okay. They think it's protocol. This is what they did. Bro, they're selling you. They're selling your rights. They're selling your opinion. They're selling your kids' rights. And they're doing so for their own personal gain. And dude, to me, that's fucking disgusting because how I feel about it is the country's been good to me. This country's been

fucking great to me. Why would I not want to put some investment back and say, thank you for that? And these people don't have that. You know what I mean? We need leaders up there, regardless of their social beliefs, that have that quality, that the common good, what's good for the common person mentality. You know, like, okay, you know, I may not like this policy or that policy, but dude, if it works, it works, you know, and we don't have any kind of selfless leadership. It's all very selfish. And not only is it selfish, they are now coordinating together across party aisles to get paid to protect each other. Yeah. Like, dude, we have a tyrannical government and it's

the fucking truth. And they do not represent our interests. And like, it is what it is. And no matter who you vote for or what you think or whatever it is you identify with in terms of your political ideology, you have to be able to separate yourself from emotion and look and say, those motherfuckers do not give a fuck about us. That's the truth. So that's where I stand on shit. You know what I mean? And the whole tour is like, dude, maybe it's a fucking total flop. Maybe nobody comes. I don't know. But like, you know what? Worst things have happened to me. Like I've gone to many first form events where I talked to one person. I'm okay with that. I've gone to many. I've, I've, I've wrote, when I started business, I walked around Springfield, Missouri and my fucking heel toe in it, going in door to door. Like I'm willing to do that.

I don't have a problem with it. And I know that's how real change is made. Real change is not made a hundred persons at a time or 200 persons at a time or a thousand person. It's made one person at a time. That's it. Whether you're running a business, you're starting political movement or whatever it is, your sports team, you're starting it, whatever it is, you're starting new. It's one person at a time. It just is. We looked at, we googled it last night because we've had a similar conversation you see the similarity here we had a similar conversation last night his brothers or something yeah bro we think identical like it's fucking weird it so in andrew's reference he made a post we had a in fact we should go to the fallout with the blues we should go down that aisle but andrew was talking about

oh did you see my story and i was out at the farm and i didn't i don don't have cell service there. I'm like, no, I didn't see it. He started talking. He's like, oh, I posted a picture of vaccine, non-vaccine. No, no, no. You said, you go, dude, this is no, we're like, we're like, you know, we're having a rage moment. We're like, fuck these guys. We're talking about the Blues because the Blues have been our family. Yeah. I can give a good story. 30 years, dude. Yeah. I mean, I don't know that I have a younger memory than going to the blues game. So anyway, they, they said you have to be vaccinated to come to the games or show proof of negative test, which I'm not fucking doing. And I don't think it's

right. It's discriminatory. And there's a whole bunch of other shit that I think too, it's going down a very dark road. So anyway, we pulled all of our money from them. We canceled our tickets. I made a post. I got, you know, and I don't like doing that, dude. I'm not into cancel culture and I'm not encouraging other people to cancel anybody. And that's what makes it different. I'm just saying that's what I'm doing. I am not supporting that. So anyway, Sal and I were like, what the fuck on the phone? You know, like one of those conversations, like what the fuck are these guys thinking? And, and he goes, he goes, dude, it's no different than a fucking water fountains and the fucking civil rights movement, bro, where you have unvaccinated and vaccinated. And I said, dude, pick up your phone, look at my story. And he,

I literally posted the exact same picture that he was referring to on my story without talking to him earlier. And he already had it pulled up on his computer. And I was the exact same picture that he was referring to on my story without talking to him earlier. And he already had it pulled up on his computer. And I was the exact same photo. I wasn't here. He was sitting at my desk. Yeah. You know, it was just kind of odd, but I had, you know, I had an hour long hour and 15 minute long conversation with the leadership of blues going down. By the way, these are dudes we like. Love the guy. Yeah. I know I'm not even going to say his name because I don't want him catching shit for it. And you know, he was in a tough spot and we talked through it and I totally give my personal experience, my business

experience. I just told him, man, we're met a character. Like we're going to, we drew a line in the sand and we said, Hey, listen, we're going to support the causes that we feel we believe in. And the only way to really fundamentally make that change happen is money. Yeah. And I'm not, we're not bowing on that, bro. And it's not because I actually, what I, this hurts because, you know, as two little fat kids that grew up on a up on a street, a gravel road that we grew up with blues hockey. And we have a local business like, and it is a fucking dream to have our company on that board, like a dream. And I told him and you took that from me. And I sit here and you say it and it's like, and I have, you know, I kind of got him in a corner and I said, not only are all the tests that are going to come in, they're going to be bunk. They're going to be signed by a cousin's

brother. And I said, but sports need to be sports. Like let them be fucking sports. You don't need an opinion. You don't need a stance. You need to provide an atmosphere where people can unify and come together, not divide. And the problem is, and when you start thinking about whether it's medical discrimination or freedom in general, it's hypocritical. Because then I asked him, I said, OK, well, whenever we have a beer together, are you going to ask me for a COVID-free test? Of course not. Yeah. Would that have been different for you guys, though, if it just be, hey, to come to a game, you have to have a negative COVID test?

Would that have made it any different for you guys? Hmm. It's a good point. No. Here's the problem. Okay. And we have to ask the right questions. Okay. So the real question is, do we believe that it's actually what they say that it actually is. And if we believed what they say it is, what the media says it is, I would 100% do whatever the fuck it took. But the problem is, is they've lied to us for two years. They've manipulated data. They've done a lot of things that have made it seem like it's much further down the road than what it is. They don't talk about that the average

person now that dies from COVID is carrying almost four comorbidities. 80% of the people are obese. 80% of the people that die are above the age of 70 fucking eight years old, which is a natural life expectancy. So when we talk about the actual data of the disease and what they count and what they don't count, okay, when you get on the TV and you talk about their 600,000 deaths, when the truth is there's only about 30,000 deaths of people that died from actual COVID alone. It actually makes the pandemic less deadly than H1N1 in 2012 or whatever. Which I've had both. And I can tell you, H1N1 was worse. Okay. Well, I think what's tough about what you just said, I'm just to, like,

you're sharing statistics, right? That you received from the CDC. CDC. CDC. And however, like, I feel like if you're on the opposite side, you could also create statistics to... I feel like there's a lot of numbers thrown around on both sides of the aisle that say it's super deadly or not deadly, depending on what resources and what information you're getting it from. Okay, let me ask you this question. Yeah. If someone gets shot, do they die from the shot or COVID?

Yeah. Okay. If someone gets a car wreck and they die, do they die of COVID or do they die of car wreck? Right. Okay. That's or COVID? Yeah. Okay. If someone gets a car wreck and they die, do they die of COVID or they die of car wreck? Right. Okay. That's the problem. Right. Okay. This has been exaggerated so heavily. And so the reason that I feel the way I do is because I personally believe they have made this far more political in a way to take our freedoms and to over-regulate our country. And I'm not helping them do that. So I resist. All right. So this is not me saying COVID isn't real. This is not me saying, this is me being alive for 42 fucking years and living through a pandemic every four

fucking five years. And they've never done any of this shit, just like you. Okay. We didn't shut the country down when 60,000 people died of fucking H1N1 or 80,000 people died of the flu the year before. Like, dude, we don't shut the country down. We don't put masks on and cover people's identities. We don't restrict their freedoms. We don't make them show medical papers. That's not what America is about. And so for me, this is more so about standing and protecting what I believe is being attacked than it is the safety issue. Now I've had COVID as well. Everybody in this office had COVID. We have a lot of people, not a lot, we have a few people who have ended up in the hospital for COVID

and we all understand that it's a real thing, 100%. The problem is, is that when you say anything else besides it's the fucking worst pandemic ever, you're a right-wing far right conspiracy nut job. And that's just not the facts. So I do agree with you, but I also have done so much research into this the whole time that I'm completely aware of what the fuckery is they're trying to pull on everybody. So I just can't contribute to that with good conscience. Well, and even in addition to it, like they've never done it for the flu. Sal? They didn't do it for H1N1, right?

The flu is extremely dead. And there was no political stance in regards to sports or politics and any of those. Like, so why now? You know, like there's a fire to the smoke. It's not just a smoke bomb sitting over in the corner and like dude it's it's you know look dude i know people who have died from this like it's not like i have a mutual friend whose father died yeah yeah i mean dude we know yeah uh look it's a pandemic there's nobody denying that but we don't do these

things that are happening in the world for a pandemic look what's nobody denying that, but we don't do these things that are happening in the world for a pandemic. Look what's happening in Australia. You know what I'm saying? Look what's happening in Canada and in Europe. Like that's what's coming here. The only reason it's not here is because we have guns. That's it. Which is the importance of 2A. Yeah. We talked about this. You know, so the argument to, for gun control guys is dead. Like it's a non-negotiable factor anymore. Like a lot of people pre this situation were willing to listen. Like, you know, okay, come to a compromise, like I said. You know, but like that argument that they always make about guns,

like you don't need a fucking AR-15 to hunt deer. That shit's gone, dude. No shit we don't. We need an AR-15 so that you don't beat the fuck out of us like they're doing in Australia right now. Or take us and put us in camps or do this. Cause I can tell you right now, if you come for me for a fucking camp, the AR-15 is going to be used period. Okay. And that's just what it is. So, you know, maybe I have a different perspective, but I don't think I'm off. I think most people, I think most of America is starting to see what's

happening. You know? I mean, it's definitely interesting times, you know, to think that like this would actually be a real conversation. I mean, just think three years ago. Well, I mean, okay, let's, let's, let's legitimately talk about this, like legit. Cause I appreciate your question very much. If somebody commits suicide, is that a COVID death or is that a fucking suicide? It's a suicide. If someone murders another person, is that, what is that? Is that murder or is that, and they have COVID, is that, should that be counted as a COVID death? It's murder. Right. Because that's been, what's been happening this entire time. They've been driving the numbers with all these different situations and dude, it starts, it's starting to come out on different,

there's whistleblowers coming out from the medical community literally every day. Tens of thousands of doctors have been silenced or have been deplatformed because they speak out about what's going on. One of the things they're doing in hospitals, like dude, there's a hospital here in St. Louis, this came out a week ago.

They have five, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe they have five intensive care floors. And they were only using two of the floors of the five. And then they were claiming that they were overrun and understaffed and everybody's dying. And they've got three more floors to grow. And so these companies, and they are companies, these hospital companies that own the hospitals

get paid from the federal government for people that die from COVID. Now I'm no fucking idiot, but if you run a company and you're starting to make money by something, what do you want to do? You usually want more of that because it makes you more money. Okay. And that's what we have going on. And people think that that's not happening. That is happening. It's happening all over. And that's not misinformation. The fact that you think it is, is just showing you that they are not allowing you to see that because I have people, I have literal doctors, thousands of them that reach out to me for the last two years saying, dude, I can't say shit. One of my, one of my good buddies, who's a huge car guy who works in your city, who is a doctor, I'm not going

to say his name, reached out to me and was like, bro, this is fucked up what they're doing. This is a guy I know. This is not like some random dude off the internet. This is a dude I've known for seven years. You know what I'm saying? Like saying, hey, bro, they are doing this shit. So like, that's where I'm, that's why I am where i am you know it's not about like dude if this shit was really like look dude i've said this remember the videos they showed us when it all came out and they were putting out their people were walking down the street in china just fucking falling over dead if that were actually happening i would do everything they fucking said i would say and dude we did do that until we figured out that wasn't happening.

So what's the resolution then? What do you think? Because I'm coming here from an area that they have a lot of different perspectives than what you just said. Right. And I'm obviously super open-minded. I love having these conversations. But I come from a place where like what you're saying, it's just in general, right? A lot of people feel like it is a really big deal, right? And they need to take appropriate precautions, whatever those may be. Let me ask you this. How many of those people have actually looked on the CDC's website? How many of those people have actually dug into what's going on? Well, I mean, that's also a big thing, right? Perception becomes your reality. I know this. California people like to fucking live in California and they like their lattes and they like to do their life and they don't really like to really get that involved.

They like to scream about shit when it's outrage. But I mean, I'm talking about educated people. How many people have really looked into this? Probably, I assume just like many things in life, probably not as many as there should be. Right. Yeah. But I'm curious if you look at the nation as a whole, right.

California, New York, other areas being kind of like held set. I mean, being all together as a nation. How do you move forward? Right. And you said it like, you know, past civil war, you know, people coming together, like when does that time come? Right. I thought we were going to get through this thing like in three months. I remember the day we shut down our gyms. I'm like, oh, you know, it was really big deals. Like guys, you know, hang tight. We'll be back in 60, 90 day, whatever it was, right. Or a month even. And then boom, it just kept going and going and going. And now here we are, um, we're still specific mandates coming up 18 months in or whatever. So where's the resolution? What do you think? What do you think? How do you think they're going to continue? They're going to continue to stop. They're going

to continue to push this until everybody is, is under what's called a vaccine passport. And they're going to use that passport to socially audit you with a social credit system and um they're already putting legislation in for now biden men just uh did the uh irs check so now any any any american citizen that has more than six hundred dollars in the bank account is going to be monitored by the irs yeah so they're already putting what they're attempting to do in my belief i'm not an idiot. They're trying to implement China's social credit system where neighbors tell on each other that you get crap. Are you familiar with this? The social credit system? No. Okay. So basically the way

it works is you, they have a set of rules. Okay. And they've turned everybody against each other. And so like, if I see you do something wrong, I fucking go on my phone. I report it. Your social credit score goes down. You can't go to certain places to eat. You can't make certain, you can't have certain jobs. You're basically a lesser citizen. That's how it works. And if I see you do something good, like the example that I always use is like, let's say you carried someone home from that was drunk and you helped them out. I might put some credits in there, but it's peer-to-peer reporting. So basically you let all the Karens of the world run the fucking whole shit. That's what they're doing. They're doing it in Australia right now. Go look up social credit

system from fucking China. Go look it up. That's what's happening. And people here think it's about fucking health. It ain't about health has nothing to do with health It has everything to do with communism being installed into our country Period that's it. You were surprised that newsome got didn't get recalled. Everybody was you know, why because he was installed He wasn't elected That's why and people So when you say what how how do we get to a point where? We move forward. It's going to have to get so bad

that people are like, holy fuck. And unfortunately, people have to learn the hard way because like, dude, I've been a little bit bitter because people, I've been saying this for so long and I've had so many people come at me and say, oh, you're wrong. You're wrong. Well, dude, go listen to all the shit, man. Go listen to my last two years of shows. There ain't nothing I've said that was wrong. The only thing I said that, the only thing I was wrong about was that Trump was going to arrest those dudes

for treason, which he didn't do. And I'm, you know, it is what it is. But I bet you if he knew he had General Milley by the balls, he would have. I could bet you this, the shit ain't over yet. No, it's this far from over so so and that's not a pro trump statement i'm just telling you there's a lot of shit going on in

the background that we don't fucking know about and i know that for a fucking fact yeah well i think the stance on moving forward though is the the data the data has to be presented in a clear manner and people have to learn to understand the data it is but that's the thing so they don't want you to like that's what people say trust the science dude this is the cdc's website people that are saying trust the science are just repeating that slogan that's it's no different than the black lives matter slogan it's no different than the antifa slogan it's the opposite of what the fucking truth is antifa calls other people nazis all antifa is is a fucking nazi organization masquerading as anti-Nazi.

Okay. Black Lives Matter. They say they're for black lives. They're not for black lives. It's a creative name. They get the black people engaged. They raise a bunch of money. The old rich white motherfuckers take the money. This is communism 101. Distraction, wordplay, dilution of terms. And that's what's happening. And it's no different than with any of this shit. So if you want to know what the fuck they're doing, I'm being dead serious and literal.

If you want to know what they are doing, turn on CNN and whatever they say, the opposite is true. No, I'm not making a joke. I'm being honest. Everything they say, the exact opposite is true. Now, Fox News ain't no better because they try to tell the truth, but then what they do is, I think they are better.

They try to tell the truth, but then they spin it so hard that it sounds like propaganda. And so there's no objective truth happening in our media. It's all agenda. It's all propaganda. The one that is objective, they censor it like Project Veritas. That's right. To me, they're not biased. Why would we be censoring doctors who are out there trying to talk about how they've

been treated their COVID patients successfully? If this was about health, why? Yeah, I've seen some of that too. Yeah. And I should note, like, I think there's this picture painted of California and like overly, but I do think like we're saying through this conversation, I come from California. I probably have slightly different views on certain things. For example, I got vaccinated. Yeah. But I think more people are not, are more in the middle than anybody thinks. Like even being in California and in these areas, a lot of them don't want these specific mandates in place. Right. They don't want that. They want, they're just like the rest of the country. So why do they continue to, why do they continue to support candidates that are

for that then? Well, I don't, that's it. That's why I was surprised. Yeah. Well, it's because they've attached our identity to a divisive party or they're cheating. All of these, no, listen, all of these things are programmed for us to divide each other. Like what party do you belong to? Are you vaccinated or unvaccinated? Do you believe in BLM? Do you believe in this?

And so what's happening is even though people can see the hypocrisy and they can say, I don't want this shit. I don't want this. I'm not for this. They refuse to speak up because they don't want to be seen as a dissenter from all the other issues.

So they've attached their identity to this side and they're not willing to hear any other thing, right? Because they're afraid if they come out that all their friends and family are going to say, oh my God, I can't believe you're not. And that's exactly what they do. And that's also exactly why the right is getting so much traction right now, because even the moderates are getting pushed to the right because they don't agree with every single thing, right? So like, dude, we have to get to solve this, which is your initial answer. We have to all separate ourselves from what we think we believe in our identities and understand that the things we've attached ourselves to are man-made ideas and structures and social constructs that do not

represent literally everything that we believe. They represent some of the things we believe, but we shouldn't be standing up for things that we don't agree with just because we've affiliated ourselves mentally with this other group of people. Does that make sense? Well, and I think you add to that, right? You can't go along with those ideologies either. You know, i.e. stand up against, you know, the St. Louis Blues. Well, once you recognize what's happening, it's easier to do that. Yeah, you have to do it. Well, and in fairness, and I don't want to get into the whole story, but Jason had a group of friends.

And if you don't feel like sharing your stories, no big deal. But basically, they had a friend who was unvaccinated, who was going to a vaccinated party, uninvited, the unvaccinated friend. Right? Fair. I mean, that's, that's, that's the way, because different view points. Right. But me, I like me and my answer to that, I would, I would unfriend that guy just from the social discrimination standpoint, me, that's how, like in my head, cause I can't roll. What happened? No. So the, you know, there is a theory that, and, and a lot of people believe this, and I assume you have statistics to not, that if you're vaccinated, you're not going to have the same type of load and your likelihood of giving it to someone else is going to be less, right? So there's a social good to be done by getting vaccinated in the greater whole.

Now, I don't know if you agree with that or disagree with that, but assuming you agree with that. That's what I understand to be the case. Yes. So if you agree with getting vaccinated is better for the greater good of a group in like this room. Right. Then for people who decide not to get vaccinated, you know, it's challenging for those who do decide because they. OK, I understand that. Yeah. 100%. Okay. So then I know I have seen a situation where someone doesn't want to have that person come over because they don't feel as comfortable having them around because they have not gotten vaccinated. Hold on. So I can't get the vaccine.

So let me ask you this. I'm going to be real. Now, the reason I can't get the vaccine is because I have preexisting conditions that really are none of your fucking business. Okay. I have high hematocrit levels. I have atrial fibrillation. Okay. I have issues. And most of the issues that are coming on the side effects of this vaccine have to do with the heart. Okay. Especially in men. So I'm not at risk. I've had COVID. I have natural immunity. And I am concerned that if I take that vaccine, I will literally fucking die. Okay. So what about those people? And that's why, like in that particular

case, right? Yeah. But so I got to come and tell my friends all the fucking shit I got wrong with me. And that's why it's not perfect. Right. There's none. I mean, that's, and that's why just like someone has a choice to get it.

Someone doesn't. But I mean, I think like what you're saying, it's like, for example, with my kids, right? There will be a vaccine that will be available for them.

They just had COVID. Do I want to give them a vaccine right now? If they just had COVID? Probably not. Right. Do you want it forced on them by the school i don't know i don't know well i honestly don't but i think the progression there though is okay well then what happens when they don't let your kids go to a different party

because of that yeah like we're slipping down wait wait what happens when they say like this because this is what they're saying what they're actually saying is what are we going to and don lemon said this on tv what are we going to do with these unvaccinated people? They're a danger to society. What are we going to do with them? We shouldn't let them get groceries. We shouldn't let them get food. We should make them be punished. That's what's being said. Now, at what point does that narrative come? These people should be isolated in camps. And then the narrative becomes another year down the road. Well, we just got to kill them because dude, they're not complying and they're costing too much in the camps. Well, let me, let me add to this. If you would have said that it was-

This has happened many times before guys, not just in Germany. This has happened over and over and over and over again. If you go study almost any single cleansing of ideology that's ever happened in this planet, it always has to do with this. But if you would have said 18 months ago

or two years ago, however fucking long ago it was, that Don Lemon would be on the news saying that. He would have been fucking put in prison for that. Yeah, and not a mother.

You wouldn't fucking believe it. And there is a portion of society at this point in time that think that's okay. No, no, no. In two years. No, no, a mother. You wouldn't fucking believe it. And there is a portion of society at this point in time that think that's okay. No, no, no. In two years. No, no, no, dude.

There's a huge portion. Yeah. Like where he comes from and those people, what he's saying, they see it different. Those people want unvaccinated people to fucking die.

I mean, I wouldn't go that far, but I'd say that they have strong views towards vaccination. I know this. I know I've seen thousands of medical workers online saying they will not treat people that don't have the vaccine. And those people are not, that's not good people.

No, that's not. No. We had a doctor friend of ours tell Sal the other day that he thinks that if you don't have the vaccine, you should sign a fucking waiver that says you don't need to have, you give up your right to care for someone who's vaccinated while he's drinking a motherfucking bottle of wine and getting ready to drive home so if you wreck your fucking car because you chose to drink you shouldn't be treated the hospital

he shut the fuck up didn't he i'm a pretty good negotiator in the argument sector i just want to chime in on this on the vaccine thing, man. The problem that I have right now, like I said, whether it's good or bad, you remove my opinion on it. That's hypocritical, is it not? Oh, it's extremely hypocritical. Which part? The drinking and driving thing. Oh, the drunk driving? Oh, yeah.

But I'm also... So where do we draw the line? See, where the lines get blurred, I mean, the lines get blurred a lot. I don't think as a human being, right, If you treat someone different because of the color of their skin, what they believe in, vaccine, I don't think that's right, right? But there's a big portion of our medical community right now saying that openly online, everywhere. And it's accepted. And like, dude, what is that going to lead to? And that was my point about moving forward though. And to be clear, Jason didn't say that. One of his friends said that.

I want to make sure that's clear. No, no, no, no. I get it. Yeah, but my point being is you can't tolerate that. Yeah. Like, that's no different than me saying, me telling Enzo, you can't go hang out with that little boy. He's black.

Right. No fucking different. I don't give a fuck what you think. They're not smart enough to get the vaccine. Yeah. That's the same thing. That is the fucking most dangerous mountain you can crawl or start sliding down. I think the other part too jason what i was gonna say man is like at some point there has to be common sense if you will like looking at this stuff like what i just had up

that was from the cdc website yeah it took me five minutes while you know i'm sitting there listen i can pull it up for you right the stats are right there in our face and so when you talk about like how they're trying to justify this stuff, it makes zero, literally zero sense. Right. It's like saying, hey, Jason, you know, you have to wear sunscreen so I don't get sunburned. Right. Yeah. Right. So if you got a room full of five people and four of them are vaccinated, what the fuck is the point of the vaccine? Hold on. What does this sound like to you? Oh, you don't care about black lives because you don't buy into black lives matter because you fucking understand that it is a Ponzi scheme for these other people to take the fucking money. It's the same thing. So you don't support black people.

It's the same thing. What's that sound like? It's the same thing. It's the same thing. So it's like driven by the same people. Yeah, it's the same people. And so my thing is like so. So.

So. And so you got plenty of situations out there where you have people that that have pre-existing conditions what about the people that don't know that they have pre-existing conditions right like like what if i secretly have afib and i just don't know it right which is usually the case which is a lot of the case that's over 70 percent of afib cases don't even know they have it right and so like there's there's plenty of situations where this could be really really bad right and then and then you know i gotta take some shit because you don't feel comfortable around me when i have natural immunity because i've had the fucking virus that might kill me how about this fuck you yeah that's the case and you stay home right that's it and so that's how it should have

been handled from the start every other pandemic in the history of fucking earth is you protect the vulnerable you fucking put the at risk and quarantine them and quarantine the sick you don't quarantine the entire fucking healthy you don't do it we need that bacteria flora but but the thing is man it's like so just where do we go from that like i mean i had a story i told the story uh there's a couple of months ago man i'm in the gas station i'm not i don't have a mask on and there's this old man uh who's standing at the counter next to me we're about this far apart there's a checkout lane here checkout lane here and and and he has a mask on he looks at me he's like where's your mask i'm like don't don't have one well you need to wear a mask right and the whole time this old man who's

getting on me you're playing fucking lottery tickets bro like if you're really concerned about your health old man you should stay home here that's what i'm like no you should just stay home got my shit and walked out you know what i'm saying but it's like the the justifications that we're using dude this is a vaccine this is the fastest fast track vaccine we've ever had it was rolled out under an emergency use authorization where is the data that supports it shows us that this stuff even works because now what they've done is that anybody, if you get the vaccine and you die two days after you get the vaccine,

they won't even report that or label that as a vaccination death. Well, there's even a step further than that. No, that's correct. No, that's a fact. It has to be. They are not counting vaccination deaths that happen within 14 days of vaccination.

You have to be past the 14-day mark to have it reported to VAERS. What does that tell you? Why not? I'll tell you this. I would take the vaccine if and only if these pharmaceutical companies could be held responsible for it.

I'll take it. I look at it like this. All those people in the early days of the Trump vaccine, it was video after video after video. I would never take that. There's not a chance I'd take that. That man is tyrannical.

That man, there's no way I would do that. The exact, I mean, this is, this is the hypocrisy we're dealing with. You can, in fact, I'd shared the video. It's one of the only videos I've shared and they took it right down. They, you flip the narrative and they watch the exact same people talking about how it's mandated and you have to take it. It's like, wait a minute. minute no like nobody finds us to be your memory's that short you don't think about these people who are just bashing this fucking thing now promoting it to the fucking gills

it's like yeah i think what's important and i hope this is just super super clear i think that each person should make the best decision for them i think if you're in a high category, I would recommend for you to get a vaccine based on what I'm seeing. We've had doctors on the show say the same thing. Yeah. And I think for me and my family, we make the best decision we can and our friends. And if you want to get it, go for it. That's how I feel too. If you don't want to get it, that's your decision. I don't think anybody should be force, force, force. I don't think that's fair to do anything. Do you think people should be exiled from society? No. And I think that's really troubling. I really do because

I think that just stands against what I believe in. Like you should be, you should be able to make decisions that are best for you. And then, and then those around you can decide, Hey, like if you're a bad person, I mean, you shouldn't be hanging out with that person, but if you just decide not to get a vaccine or get it, and you made the best decision you could, big point, like if you, for example, have heart disease or heart challenges, like that's a decision you're making based on all the information out there.

And if that's what's best for you, you should do what's best for you. But bro, the problem is, is that if I say I'm going to do what's best for me and not do it, I can't go to fucking this. I can't go to theaters. I can't go to restaurants. I can't go to the blues game. Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking bullshit. That's tough.

That's I don't know. Yeah. And how those decisions are being made is very difficult. They're making those decisions, bro, because the social pressure is very great from a loud minority. Eighty percent of people agree with what the fuck I'm saying. And that's proven by the polls. There was a poll done on Yahoo that is, Yahoo is high, far leaning left. Okay. The 80% of people said that they would not support a business or an organization that mandated vaccines to, to come in and be a customer of that.

Watch, I'll get you one. I'll get you one. And we touched on yesterday and got interrupted, but your charity A, I'll get you one. I'll get you one. We touched on it yesterday and got interrupted, but you're chair to Avis Kitchen. Yeah. Right? Yep.

March 5th? February 5th. February 5th. You asked me if I'd come. Yep. I can't. Yeah. Because they probably,

I probably can't get into a restaurant. I probably can't get into- So, I have to go to fucking California Saturday. I had to rent a house. I can't stay at a hotel. I I have to go to fucking California Saturday. I had to rent a house. I can't stay at a hotel. I can't fucking go to a hotel. I had to rent a motherfucking house and I can't go to restaurants. I'm gonna have to have food brought in. What are you going to LA? But my point being is like, okay, now I'm in an interesting spot, right? Like, you know, I support your, your, your cause. I'm i fly across country to do it for your

daughter in a heartbeat when i show up they don't let me in what do you do i mean it's this is this is when i sit at the table with your friends that you know i'm saying am i less than well so these are the conversations that are happening all across the country i think you got to handle it with a little level of kind of i don't know that they are happening i like this because i don't know that these are happening this is weird for most people no i think you need to handle it with a little level of kind of, I don't know that they are happening. I like this. Cause I don't know that these are happening. This is weird for most people. No, I think you need to handle it with like, for lack of a better term, like some grace and common sense and some like that just human, like, and I think for you, like if the state and County guidelines are vaccination status, like I think the business is going to have to have that right now. That's not the case.

And I hope it doesn't become the case because I think that people should be able to go there. But if it was, then you'd probably have, you'd have to uphold it, right? Because you have to draw a line and say, hey, we're going to abide by state and county. And in that case, the 49ers stadium, right? That event is at the 49ers stadium. So that becomes a bigger issue, right? Is they're going to draw a line for the event, essentially. Whatever they draw, then the event has to abide by it. But you bring up a really big point. When is enough enough? Right.

And that's a really big point. It's not when's enough enough. There's two points I'd like to make here. One, I want you to teleport your brain back to 2018. The fact that we're even talking about this shit is insane. Think if we had a conversation back when we did our first show together and I said, Hey, they're going to keep people from going to events. They're going to keep you from going to restaurants. They're going to fire them for their jobs. What would you feel about that? Then we would have all said, Holy

fuck, we got to stop it right now. Dude, that's what I'm saying. But now people have been slowly indoctrinated into it. Like I said, with the mask where you get used to it and you're like, oh, this isn't that bad. It's like boiling the frog in water. And like, I just want everybody to go back to 2018 and think about how you would think about all of this shit you're observing. All this shit in Australia, in Canada, in Europe. These leaders doing this shit like Gavin did, where he went out to fucking, dude, this is absurd insanity that we're even having the motherfucking discussion at all. In 2018, if one of your friends would have said,

I'm not hanging out with that man because he didn't get the flu shot. He would have been canceled on the internet. Not only you canceled the internet, you wouldn't hang out with that guy. Yeah. I mean, look, dude it is we are lost yeah we are lost and we are at a point of high importance and a critical time to stand for what's right and dude if we don't you can continue you can expect to continue to see this rolled out this is a 10-year plan we're in year fucking two of it. And you're going to not own shit. Just like they said, we all saw the video. 2030, you won't own anything and you'll love it. That's the whole fucking plan. Okay. This is a communist ideology takeover. They are looking to eliminate freedom ideology from the entire planet at one time with one program. And anybody who resists is going to

end up in those camps and those going to end up in those camps. And those camps will end up being death camps. That's what I see happening. So you could say that's extreme. You could say that's whatever. That's what I observe happening. And it's not about health. If it was about health, like I said, we'd be making fat people run. We'd be making them work out. We'd be making them get healthy. If this was really killing everybody, people would be staying the fuck home. They wouldn't be at the grocery store pointing the finger at the one guy without a mask saying, fuck you. They wouldn't be going to sporting events. They wouldn't be doing shit.

I think it just goes back to, you know, what are you standing for? You know, and so like, you do that in different ways based off... If you were scared, bro, you wouldn't fucking do shit. You would not be going to a restaurant. You wouldn't be going to a fucking football game. If you were truly scared of this shit, you wouldn't fucking do shit. No. You would not be going to a restaurant. You wouldn't be going to a fucking football game. If you were truly scared of this shit, you wouldn't be doing anything. Yeah.

And I would just say like, again, I would just say that I think people, I know that people have strong views both ways. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's important that we also listen to each other and have a conversation. This is a great conversation. I think that you become so. Yeah.

And, and like you and I were talking about, Sal, like through experience, your perspective shifts, right? And you don't know what different people's perspective might be. For example, you with talking about the vaccine, or for example, me getting tested twice a week for a year for COVID. Someone said, forget you. Like the reason why I'm doing this is this.

I don't need to justify it. That's correct. And bro, you know what? I think that you did the responsible thing considering the circumstances you were in. I would have done the same thing. I would have done the exact same thing. But that's because my perspective was,

and I think that if we just take a 360 view at this and like put ourselves in different people's shoes. Now you might not disagree or agree, but I mean this whole like the tension and the argument, like it's not helping anybody, right? I think that more stuff like this needs to occur where people start actually talking and discussing. And, um, you know, you probably have more things in common than you actually think. And, you know, the outcome, I don't know if it's as extreme as I

would agree you're going down, but that's okay. I'll still listen to you, you know? And I, well, we're going to find out, won't we? For sure. i hope we don't are you gonna fight for us here's my question for you here what would it take for you to observe for you to agree with what i just said at what point would you say holy shit andy's right this is actually happening because it's happening in Australia right now. You're seeing signs of it there for sure. I think, I think the, the, in particular,

the, the vaccine passports, I mean, it's getting close to a point where I think it's really infringing, obviously on people's, I mean, I think it's already there, right?

It's already there. But what, here's what I'm asking. What event has to happen to get you to say, holy shit, they fucked us and they're going to do this? I don't know if you could really, I'm probably already there, right? But then the question is, if we're there,

what can be done? And that's the reason why I'm asking the questions to you because I already think that the community has been divided so much, right? And that people have, but I don't, I hope it doesn't get much worse in terms of like military type stuff and that kind of thing.

That's the next escalation, which is way down the line. Let me ask you this. Just as a, why do you think, and I want you to really, I want all of you to really think about why they're doing this. Why are they kicking so many people

out of the military for refusing the vaccine? I know the answer because, well, I mean, if you take the military, we talked about this last night on the way home, talk about the strength of the military and who's willing to stand up against it. Most likely the most dominant person or the strongest characteristic trait person in the military. And if you can eliminate those people and identify them first, then you have a military that's much more compliant and much more docile. Exactly what's happening. Same thing with the police force. It's happening in police and it's happening in

every government agency. They're kicking out all the people that disagree with the narrative. You know why they're doing that? So they can enforce the shit on the streets like they're doing in Australia right now. Those motherfuckers are going to come on the streets. Bro, they're going to come on the streets and motherfuckers with guns are going to kill them. That's what's going to happen.

Jason, let me ask you this. Maybe it's not an event that, you know, that said, oh shit, okay, it's worse. How long are you willing for it to be like it is? I mean, how long are you willing to deal with how shit is right now? How long are you willing to deal with it with how shit is right now how long are you willing to deal with it because what if it doesn't get worse let's say let's say all the Australia stuff that shit never happens but are you

how long are you willing to continue to live how it is going right now how long are you willing to stay in there you mean the divisiveness or the actual rules and regulations I mean I'll live with it as long as it it's not at a point where like i don't know what the other option would be as i guess i'm trying to say like i don't think it's good the

way that the country is the way that divisiveness and but what is the solution um i mean andy is talking about his tour which i think could be a really cool idea sure but i mean we're talking it's going to take a while to get past this um i think i think it's also i realize i just dumped some real fucking hard shit on people whenever i just walked out to take a pee but here's the thing guys uh well dude like they're gonna kill them like that's not what i think so this is why so i want to add to that right like because a lot of people are gonna hear that they're gonna be like holy fuck you're aggressive no i'm not saying that i'm not saying i'm going to go do that i'm saying Like, cause a lot of people are going to hear that and they're going to be like, holy fuck, you're aggressive. No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying I'm going to go do

that. I'm saying there are people that will do that. Okay. A lot of them. Yes. A whole lot of them. Okay. So here's the thing. And this is why I keep harping on the same message with you guys to get involved. Okay. If people get involved now, if they go to the school board meetings, if they educate themselves, if they try to the school board meetings, if they educate themselves, if they try to get involved in the civic discussions and start working towards this, right? I believe we can keep all of this nasty shit from happening. You know what I'm saying? Like we have a problem of apathy. And when the smart, reasonable people on both sides of the aisle take a fucking 20, 30 year vacation to go build their lives, we shouldn't be surprised that when we look back, the fucking circus is running the show. You know what I'm saying?

So we have to get involved. And if we get involved, regardless of political ideologies that align with freedom, right? Like if you're a communist, like you don't belong in this country, you should go to a communist country. That's just the fucking way it should be. Like if you think communism is great, you should move to a communist country. This is not a communist country. This is a fucking free country. And we have, you know, people feel afraid to even say that, oh, we have to accept all these people. No, we don't. That's a fucking conflicting ideology. And that ideology has killed more people than literally anything in the history of the planet. Any event, any war, any other fucking

thing. Communism has killed more people. Any disease. Okay. That's a fact. Go look it up. Here's the thing. If we get involved, we can stop and push this shit out. Okay. The teachers who forced these kids, like what we just watched on the video or like that teacher out in California, that Gabriel Gate or whatever, whatever his name was, who had a, has a hammer and sickle tattoo on his chest who's standing in his class making kids pledge allegiance to the fucking Antifa flag. That shit has no place in America at all. And I don't think anybody here can disagree with that. No place. And we have to understand that our enemy is not liberals or people who think more left or people who just aren't agreeing with us. Those are not our enemy. Our enemy is people who have a whole lot of fucking money, who pushing this division

down the pipe, who are making us believe that we all hate each other and who are allowing things that are counterproductive to American society and American freedom to infiltrate our country, not even allowing it, pushing it in. And so like, dude, once people understand that this is not truly about health, which I think they're starting to realize because everybody's getting sick of the tyranny, they're going to wake up. They're going to say, well, what is this really about then? Well, they're going to say, well, it must be Democrat Republican. I think a lot of people are thinking that right now. They think it's a Democrat Republican thing. It's not that. It has nothing to do with that. They want you to think that so you don't see what's actually happening, which is an insurgency

of communism coming to America that will destroy our entire country and our way of life. No matter who you are, there's not one person out there listening to this, whose life will be better from communism. All of you will suffer all of you. And so once people wake up and here's my concern that people won't wake up to that until it's already too late. And that's why, bro, that's why I changed the whole name of my show. That's why I went away from MFCEO Project. That's why I went away from talking about money all the time and success and wealth and all this shit that I'm one of the best in the world at fucking coaching on. The reason I went away from that is because without freedom,

we don't even have a chance for anyone. So that's where I'm coming from, guys. Like, bro, I love the fact that you ask an interesting questions. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're good questions. He's my token Californian. We have good talk. Bro, listen, I talk to Hany every day. You know, I talk to my guys in California, Fleischman and these other dudes. I talk to them daily. But I think that's the challenge about being surrounded by so many people who are thinking the same. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to see these other perspectives.

You come to a place like Missouri. Like, don't get me wrong. Like, everybody's not thinking like us either here. You know what I'm saying? Like, you still got your people that, like, no. Like, they have a different point of view a different perspective right well dude and people will say oh dude you sound like some alex jones conspiracy shit no i don't no because he's talking about motherfucking lizard people and shit he's going

way i'm talking about an actual insert i actually think that they put these people out there and i'm not saying him but i'm saying they put these people out there who say a bunch of crazy shit to make everybody look crazy. Okay. So I'm not talking crazy. I'm talking what's happening, dude. Like the shit's happening. Like they just had a kid on Australia. I forget the kid's name. Um, Tommy Vex posted it and showed it to me, but he was speaking up against the cops, telling the cops like, Hey, you need to stay with the people. And they beat the fuck out of this kid, like almost to death, like fractured his skull, beat the shit out of him because he's telling the cops like, hey guys, your job is to protect us. Your job is to stay with us. Your job is to stay with our constitution. And like, that's what I'm kind of worried about now. Now they're

weeding out all these people at the police force. They're weeding out all these people at the military. They're keeping only the compliant and those compliant police and military will come on and do, they will come through the street and do anything the government tells them. And dude, that's dangerous. So you guys who are police officers and you guys who are military listening to the show, which there's a fuck ton of you. It's very, very, very, very, very important that you don't just leave. You have to fight it there. It's a very important thing. Okay? Because if you leave, if you good people leave who actually stand for, because that's what the military and the police are designed to do. They're designed to protect the people from the government,

not protect the government from the people. If you guys leave and you abandon everybody and leave only the people who are willing to do anything they say for a dollar, you are literally fucking the whole entire country over. So you guys who are in these battles, I feel for you. Help you do whatever we can do to support, but don't leave. Don't quit. Organize. Stand together. Do what's right. Because, dude, we have to have some leaders step up with some backbones to protect the right of these people, because otherwise this is going to keep going and going and going and going and going. And, you know, I told you where I see it going. I'm not often wrong. You know, like I'm not. So

I hope I am wrong. But I mean, like, dude, all signs indicate this is where the fuck we're going. I mean, if you study history, this shit has happened way many times before. So, you know, I know it's a hard thing to swallow and I know it's scary and I know it's this, but that's why I'm urgent. And that's why I need we need people to help get involved. Like, dude, what's going on at your kid's school? What's going on with their education? What's going on with these mandates that don't have scientific backing? Why are we pushing this?

Why are we doing this? Why are we doing this? And the other thing I think that needs to be said is like organizations like the Blues, right? Like you guys are out there and you think you're doing the right thing. And I understand that you've been under the gun for a couple of years, but don't you think they purposely put you under the gun so you would have to enforce these policies? Don't you think that you are actually emboldening these communist tendencies by pushing this shit onto people? Like you're helping the agenda by

doing so. Dude, if I own the team, I couldn't sleep at night knowing that. I just couldn't. Just who the fuck I am. Which is exactly what they're doing in St. Louis with the Blues, exactly. What do you mean? I mean, the city of St. Louis hasn't given them any support for the last five years. St. Louis City also has one of the strongest mandates. I mean, they're pushing all of that. So, hey, Blues, push that.

Here's a million dollars for your stadium upgrades. Here another you know here's three years free lease bro I guarantee you if they said if they came out today and said you know what we thought about it we're not doing that shit they'd have the best fucking year they ever had oh yeah it would be it would go I would go to every fucking game I would go to every game I would fucking donate fucking millions of dollars to their fucking organization I would support them and, I'm not the only one. I've spoken to every single business owner that is anybody in St. Louis and they're all with it. So like if they want to make a smart business decision, they'll actually stick their finger into the street level community and understand the temperature. And the temperature definitely here is not

mandating fucking vaccines and forcing people to show papers and forcing people to disclose medical conditions to go to a motherfucking hockey game. You're the fan base of the St. Louis Blues is a blue collar fan base. That's where I come from. That's where he comes from. That's where all these motherfuckers here come from. Okay? We like WWE. All right? And monster trucks. For real.

And NHRA. Yeah. And John Brown. We like race cars. You want to call us hillbillies? Whatever the fuck you want. I don't care. It's who the fuck we are. And we ain't about it.

And these blues, the guys that own the blues, are elite dudes who have lost touch with the temperature of the fan base. And it will hurt them tremendously financially if they don't come back and say, hey, you know what? We thought about it. We're going to go back to this. It's not our business. You handle your own personal responsibility because that's what America is about, isn't it? Isn't America about personal responsibility? Isn't it about making sure that you're healthy, making sure that your family's healthy, making sure you're doing the thing. Like, dude, I have a major problem with the 80% of the people who are, you know, the stats show 80% of the people who are

fatal with COVID are fucking obese. I have a major problem with somebody who's not willing to do shit when we've been locked down. Our businesses have been locked down, we've all been fucked with for 500, almost 600 days now. Dude, can you change your health in 600 days? Oh yeah, you can change your health in 600 days. Can you change it completely? Yeah, we've seen a lot of people go one way or another. We've seen a lot of people transform and lose a ton of weight and do amazing things. Seem the opposite way too. Correct. But they have but they have the, they have the ability. Agree or disagree. Everybody has had the opportunity to get healthy. Yep. So why the fuck are we still pandering to people who didn't?

Because I can tell you this, bro. You know me. Was I fucking fatter when I saw you last time? You look good, man. Okay. Yeah. I know. I know you talked to honey yeah honey's been my dude yeah all right one of my very very very best friends a great man who also has had some very serious covid hardships okay if you had the opportunity to get healthy and you didn't you don't have a fucking dog in this race anymore bro not. Not with me. I don't care because you know what? I've missed eight fucking days in almost 600. I'm lazy. All right. I'm a fucking slacker. If I could take control of my shit and get healthy, so the fuck can you. So stay the fuck away from me with that argument because it ain't right. You're now wanting your laziness and your lack of activity and your lack of taking personal responsibility. You want the world to bend

over a barrel to accommodate you. I ain't fucking with it. Everybody should be doing their part. And it is what it is. Like, bro, you got some weight to lose. You should be losing it. It is what it is. So, you know, what else am I going to say? I can't hear it from someone who hasn't sat at home, done nothing, contributes nothing, doesn't take care of themselves, doesn't even take it serious. I can't fucking do it. Here's what I can do though. I can put out an extreme diet program that is transformed. That's the other thing that pisses me off about that shit, bro. And I'm not saying this to be a fucking arrogant asshole. There may be some people more than me. There might be some people who transform more lives than us. Maybe. I don't know of any. I don't

know of a single person who's had more impact on people's fucking mental and physical health in the last two years than myself. And that's being that's not being egotistical. That's a matter of fact. I have literally hundreds of millions of hashtags from that program. Think about that. Hundreds of millions. Okay. So I've done my part. I've taken care of myself. I've put out programs. I've been there for other people. I've helped them, guide them to where they are more healthy mentally and physically during this whole pandemic. And I've led by example. I haven't missed fucking, I missed eight days, bro. And 600. So what the fuck you got for me, dude? There ain't no holes in my motherfucking game. There just isn't. And you guys can poke at me

all you want, but you ain't gonna find any fucking holes. Okay. And I think if we really want to get back on track, everybody should aspire to that. Everybody should aspire to be what they say they're about. Everybody should aspire to take control of their own health. Everybody should aspire and take responsibility for their physical condition and their mental condition. And I think if everybody did that, things will look a lot better. Final thoughts. I think we should, you know, part of your, part of the tour and the concept of the

tour is to, you know, show the importance of capitalism, right? I think the other thing after, after the, I'm sorry to interrupt you. I'm trying to work on this. I've got it written up there on the board. It says, let people talk. It's been up there for like 10 weeks. Hey, I've been doing better. I've been getting better. Maybe slowly, but I'm getting better. But here's the thing. Progress over perfection. That's right. Here, look, here's one thing I thought about while we're having this conversation. I think it would be good to have people who have different viewpoints to come on that tour with me and do some Q and A's. And that's like, like Jason, we don't see everything exactly the same, but I feel very good after having this conversation. Like, I feel like we had a

productive conversation. I think we did too. And that's a good thing. Isn't that what people need to see? That's what people need to see. What people need to see is, hi, I'm Sal. I'm unvaccinated. Hi, I'm Jason. I'm vaccinated.

And we can be friends. And we can sit next to each other and we can share a burrito. No, I think, you know, talk about doing your part, right? It's part of your role. I think a huge part of this is, when you you know, talk about, you know, doing your part, right? It's part of your role. I think a huge part of this is, you know, when you look at brick and mortar, brick and mortar is the backbone of society. It's the backbone of economy. And, you know, who's won here?

The big player, Amazon's won big in the last, you know, 700 days. I think, you know, they have small business Saturday and I've been actually meaning to talk to you about this, but I think, you know, we should take an initiative. Maybe it's the month of October to say, whether it's, I'm not canceling Amazon. That's not, I'm not part of the cancel culture, but it's like, Hey, can you shop locally in October? Can you make the decision, the inconvenient decision to, to make it a little bit harder to go support somebody locally? Maybe it's an ACE true value hardware store versus home Depot. Hey, I can get down with that. It's not going to be fucking fun. It's a little bit further drive, but I think, you know, playing your role in society, that's a small role that we

can all play. Yeah. You know, supporting the local CEO, you know, who's not, you know, I mean, you guys to be a small business owner, man, that's fucking hard. Yeah. And it's been really fucking hard to last two years. And I think identifying that, that, hey, man, these people have stuck it out. They're grinding through it. Like, how can you help? Well, you can help the local guy and taking the opportunity to go spend dollars locally goes a long way in creating a better economy for your, for your local economy. Yeah. And I think, you know, when you look at that, you know, we start talking about how do you spend your dollars? Cause not everybody has $300,000 to pull back from an organization and advertising. Right. No, but you have 50 to pull back from Amazon to go give to your local guy who's likely your neighbor.

Yeah. I like it. What do you think, bro? Yeah. I think, you know, you can hear by the way I talk, like I'm not, look, there's a lot of different opinions on vaccine, unvaccinated, this, that, but I think what's in our control, right, is, I mean, yes, you can go get vaccinated or not vaccinated, but this, this tension on these challenges we see in society and even with COVID, right? What's completely in our control is I think people need to take ownership in their own fitness, right? Like we're talking about. I think a lot of people want to talk about wearing masks, getting vaccinated, et cetera. But if you're going to talk about that, that's fine, right?

And if you're a believer in it, that's okay. But then in conjunction, you also need to talk about what you could do for yourself, right? Taking care of your fitness, making sure you're going out for walks, getting in your exercise because you can't just be one-sided. It needs to be a more holistic approach.

And I think that's really important for people to understand is that I think we get so wrapped up in this conversation, which it's a very important conversation. Absolutely. But then we have a tendency to take away things

that are actually in our control because it's easier for a tendency to take away things that are actually in our control because it's easier for us to deflect on the things that are outside of our control necessarily. What's in our control is taking care of ourselves. And it's a 24 hour a day, 365 thing. And being in better shape is going to help you vaccinated or unvaccinated. I got COVID being vaccinated.

It wasn't that bad. Maybe because I was in really good shape. Maybe because I was vaccinated. I don't know, but that was in my control. And I think everybody else should go out there and go start with walking and then start getting after your workouts. Will you come on my tour? I'll go on your tour. At least one city or two cities? Yeah, I'll go on your tour. Just not in his home city. No, no, no. Hey, listen, listen, I want you to know like these kinds of conversations, they make me extremely hopeful for people. Like I this today like I needed to hear from someone who maybe didn't necessarily see it as bad as I saw it But is also willing to have discussions and like I really fucking dude like I loved you before but man, I really love you now

I would come over here give you a big old hug But like but like my thing is is like that's important guys. It's it's important I know a lot of you guys think I'm this hot dude who only like hot tempered dude. I am a hot dude, but like, but like, uh, this hot tempered guys, you know, you can't talk to, and it's not the case at all. I feel very open-minded as well. And I think people need to hear things like this, you know? Um, so I really appreciate you coming on today. no thanks for having me i mean came out for a hundred mile bike ride and ended up uh chatting about yeah life little little little politics it's all good it's good stuff what do you think bro yeah same thing man go go have this conversation i think this is probably one of my favorite shows

actually i i think so too i got to hear a different perspective you know i'm saying not not not online not for some fucking bot right like from a real human who has real concerns who's a good human who's a great human and that's the thing he's a fucking great human and he's real he's sitting right here you know i'm saying like go have these conversations because i'm sure you do have a neighbor down down the block that probably thinks a little bit different right go have those conversations man and you know hopefully they don't you know they're a lot more respectful like like this conversation is and hopefully it doesn't go sideways, but you'll never know if you don't go have it. I think my final thought, I want to touch back on Sal's thing. I think,

unfortunately, we're in a situation where we have to let our dollars do the talking. It's important to support companies that you align with right now because everybody's so polarized. And so, you know, if you really want these companies to respect your views, you're going to have to spend dollars with companies that appreciate who the fuck you are and what you stand for. And so I think that's a big move that can really change a lot of things. You know, Aaron Wagner, a good buddy of mine, made a good point on his Instagram yesterday that, you know, most companies operate between a five and 20% margin. So like they can't afford to lose 20% of their customer base. And a lot of these, a lot of these organizations and companies are getting very cavalier with how they think they can operate a business. Guys, business is hard

with a hundred percent possible customers. When you subdivide your customer base into, let's just say 60, 40, or 70, 30, or even 50, 50, you are cutting your own throat. And so a lot of you businesses out there don't understand what the fuck you're doing because people feel very strongly about this. They're not just going to give in. I can tell you this, that shit is not coming in my body. It's not. I will do everything else I need to do. I'm willing to work hard. I'm willing to eat food that I'm willing to not go out and have a good time. I'm willing to suffer for everybody's health, but I'm not putting some shit in my body to fucking that, that, that I think I believe after my research, I trust myself and, uh, that it is what it is. So, you know, as much as I hate the cancel culture and I hate that shit,

I think it is important, you know, uh, to, to, to support people and companies that you align with and what they stand for. And I don't think it's, I don't think you should be discouraging people from, uh, you know, going somewhere that they believe, but I think that we should all be working towards supporting people that they believe and, and, and, uh, support, because I think that's the only way we're going to get back and, and show that, you know, 80% of the people in America want freedom, dude. Jason, you might have different views, but you still respect the freedom. I do. I also feel for the businesses that are, that are put in a really difficult position. Right. Like I really, really do like myself included. It's a really difficult

decision if your business... And then there's also something you said that as a business owner, you also need to know your audience as well. Let's just take San Francisco. There's a current vaccine mandate there. The restaurant owners came together and if I'm not mistaken on this, they're okay with it because they believe more patrons will come in knowing that everybody there has their vaccine in that particular area. But I don't envy the position for any business owner, including ourselves, because it puts your back up against the wall to isolate one demographic or the other. There's plenty of people that feel the way you do. There's plenty of people that feel the opposite way.

And as a business, like you're saying, it's already hard enough. And now we're being put in this impossible situation where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't type of thing. Back to your point with the hockey team, right? It's the same thing. Maybe not in the same place. Let me point something out to you that you may not be thinking about. If you wanted the entire country to be dependent on the government, let's say you were trying to install a communist regime where most people are dependent on the government, wouldn't it make sense to destroy small businesses and make it impossible for them to succeed? They're doing a good job of making it very difficult. Something to think about.

Yeah. I'm not saying it is what it is, but I'm just asking. Something to think about, right? Yeah. Anyway, bro, I love you, man. Hey. This has been a fucking awesome show.

Yeah, we got to do it again sometime. Dude, anytime you're welcome to come on the show. I love who you are. I love what you represent. Tell people where to follow you. Best place by Instagram, Jason Kalipa. And yeah, if you want to check out some of our gyms, our online programs, NC Fit. And tell them about your book. You have a book? Yeah. We have a book, As Many Reps As Possible. You can find on Amazon, the audio version on A book, As Many Reps As Possible. You can find it on Amazon, the audio version on Audible, As Many Reps As Possible. Actually, after I was on the show years ago,

man, I got so much feedback from it. I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity. Absolutely, dude. The audio book is great, so go check it out. Guys, check out his book. Support this man. He's a good man. He's a good human.

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