REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 168. #75HARD vs Josiah Rasmussen

Episode Date: November 7, 2021

The #75HARD program is not for everybody. In today's episode, Andy and Josiah Rasmussen discuss the enormous growth they've experienced completing #75HARD, obstacles they had to face during the program, and why it's a great time to start it right now.

What's up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realest say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusionsusions of modern society, and welcome to motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have a 75 Hardcast. So if you've been thinking about 75 Hard, if you're doing 75 Hard, if you've done 75 Hard or any of the Live Hard phases, this is going to be a show that you want to listen to. As promised, I occasionally bring in some exceptional stories, and I have one for you today. But before I get into it, I wanted to remind you of the fee. All right, the fee is very simple. Share the show.

If it made you think, if it made you have a different perspective, if it made you better, if it made you laugh, if it made you learn some things, if you think it could help people improve, which this one definitely will, please share it for us. So we're going to get into 75 hard today we're gonna get into it in depth uh with that being said i'd like to welcome my buddy josiah rasmussen on the show what's up brother what's up man thanks for having me yeah you're welcome i'm good man they uh they were super welcoming coming in dj showed us around and uh i'm doing good man yeah what'd you think? Crazy, dude.

Yeah? They showed me the locker. I was like, man, had all my stuff, had some dog treats in it, everything. Yeah. Well, look, dude, everybody in this building, for the most part, has done the program. So we all have a ton of respect for people who have done it. So that's our guys showing you respect, uh, for, for doing what you

did now, where are you from? So I'm a 28 years old, Cincinnati, Ohio. Um, basically lived there my whole life. Uh, I was born in Texas, uh, moved there with my family when I was about 12 years old. Um, if I can remember, so i've been there for most of my life and yeah man second time in uh st louis i believe i was down here i don't even know if that's how you say it yeah st louis okay yeah uh second time i was down here when i was like 13 years old maybe but pretty similar to cincinnati for the most part it is it's very similar type city yeah yeah so what do you do man so i'm actually i actually, I'm a UPS driver, man. Just a normal blue collar dude who.

Works hard. Works hard, man. Yeah. And nothing crazy. Just regular dude who got an opportunity to come on this show and kind of tell my story. Tell people how you got the opportunity to come on the show. So basically I. He sent me a DM. He says, hey, bro, I got a story. I want to come on the show so basically um i sent me a dm he says hey bro i got a story i want to come on the show that's what i'm saying i said all right cool send me

your shit no so basically what i was telling uh dj before i came in um i've never really been big into like manifestation because i've never really like yeah i've always believed in it but i've never really like put it into play and actually saw it through so basically um how it all started i'm gonna kind of give you the whole story just the beginning and all that fuck yeah bro okay so the very beginning basically i want to know i got you man i got you so uh saw a couple people doing it on instagram basically right away i was like not doing it no booze no way away, I was like, not doing it. No booze. No way I'm doing two workouts. Cause I work out every single day basically. And, uh, my initial thought was like, I'm not doing it. So, um, time went by, it was probably like two months and June came basically,

uh, heard one of the podcasts. I can't remember what guest it was. There was one of the podcast i can't remember what guest it was there was one of the 75 hard guests but heard that podcast and i heard the confidence in that person's voice it was it was the girl i can't remember her name lexi it was lexi or that or that dude i can't i think i listened to both who omar yeah it was one of them basically i like heard the confidence in the voice and i was like at that time i was kind of at a point in my life this was only back in june but everything for me was stagnant man i would wake up i'd go to work i'd get off work go home basically make every excuse not to do something that i knew i wasn't supposed to be doing as far as like um working, working on myself, working on

self-development. So, so what would you do when you got home? It would depend. I mean, like I said, I worked out every day, basically ever since I was like 28 and ever since I was like 16, um, always kind of had that regimen, but I got into this rhythm where basically I would justify my reasons to do things such as I work 10 hours. I'm going to go home and drink a couple of beers because I worked hard and other reasons like, um, with diet and stuff. Like I worked out, I deserve to eat this pizza. And I know it sounds kind of minuscule and kind of, no, that's what we all do. And that's what I'm saying. So like, and the fact that it's very human, right. And some people would I'm saying. So like, and the fact that- It's very human.

Right. Yeah. And some people would come up to me and they'd be like, when I started 75 Hard, and they'd be like, dude, you already work out, you already do this. And so the fact that people were coming up to me, telling me that, knowing that I was working out, I was like, man, all these people I'm surrounding myself with are weak and I'm weak myself. But I had people coming up to me telling me that I'm doing it right and I'm like there's there's something going on like it's me being mentally

weak and I know it sounds like I said kind of cliche but basically heard that podcast um heard the confidence I think it was Lexi who I listened to but heard I heard that I heard the confidence, um, kind of did some more research, listen to your 75 hard podcast episode 14. Um, listen to that. And, uh, I actually listened to it like three times in like two days, just so I can understand what to do.

Um, yeah, the reasoning behind everything. Right. Cause I wanted to make sure like, just kind of fully understand it. So for those of you guys, uh,

he's talking about episode 14 in the real AF feed. Uh, also you can get the book on my website, andyfrusella.com, which will explain exactly what he's talking about. You could do it for free or you could buy the book either way. Yeah. So, um, basically this was, like I said, in June and I told myself, I'm like, this is something I need to do. Like I was actually driving for UPS. I was driving the truck and I was like, dude, I got to do this. Like it's something that I think I can do.

But if I do it and I don't finish it, no one's going to give a shit. And that was something that I thought about. And then it was July 5th. And it's kind of a ridiculous story, but I was golfing with some buddies and we were drinking beers and golfing for me is like my kind of escape. It's like my happy place. And so I'm golfing and I just find myself like not happy at all. I'm just like something's going on.

And this is the day after the 4th of July. So wake up the next day and it was July 6th. And I just decided I was like, today's the day. So did my cardio, did my outdoor cardio, got, got a healthy breakfast in kind of put together a meal plan for myself. Basically hadn't had a list of foods that I could eat. And then obviously no cheat meals. Um, and then I got done with my cardio and I was like, I'm going to post this on Instagram so I can, so people know like it's about to go down. And then I thought about it and I was like, dude, if I post this and I remember one podcast that you did that I listened to, I think this is the one, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was one with Omar. And basically, you said that when you did it for the first time, and correct me if I'm wrong,

that the only reason you did it is because you told people you were going to do it. Yeah, I had a bet. Right. I had a bet going with a bunch of guys. Right. Yeah. And so you said, if I hadn't have done it, then I was a fraud. Yeah.

That's what you said. Yeah. And I've heard that podcast, and that just stuck with me, fraud. Yeah. That's what you said. Yeah. And I've heard that podcast and that just stuck with me, dude. And literally that was the exact reason why I got through the 75 days. Yeah. Cause I was raised in a family where my dad always said like, basically be a man of your word. Yeah.

Your word's all you got. Yeah. And, uh, so yeah, man, I mean, that was like the one thing that was like, don't be a bitch. Like you got to do it. And that's why I told myself if I start, I'm not stopping. Like I'm not going back to day one. Dude, that's the level of commitment it takes. You know, what you're, what you're describing from the people who do really well and do the program and get what the program is intended to give you, you have to approach it with that attitude. I'm finishing it no matter what.

Right. That's where the idea of, you know, zero compromise comes in zero, zero compromise. Like there is no other solution. Like I'm going to do this for the next 75 days, no matter what the fuck happens. That's what I'm doing. And, uh, you know, for those of you who, you know, this is going to air on a Sunday and I'm sure a lot of people are going to be saying oh man tomorrow's my day don't approach it with this idea and i'm sure you can attest to this as well with this meant like how different would it have been if you approached it with the mentality of you know i'm going to try this out you see what i'm saying dude i had because another thing you said was like don't try to

put into perspective or don't base it on things that you have coming up in the future as far as like plans and events and stuff and i didn't even look dude i knew i had things scheduled yeah in the next 75 days but i woke up and it had to have been like a god thing no joke and he i think i think that's what it was yeah he's like dude wake your ass up today's the day and i didn't i was like if i start it if i say i'm gonna do it if i post my day one it's over like i'm doing it and that and that was the mindset that i had yeah and yeah that's what you have to have bro i mean if you had approached that with the mentality of oh i'm just gonna try this out that's like saying hey i'm gonna go out and try a fucking iron man like that's not what people do people go out and

they do it and it doesn't matter how tired you are it doesn't matter how long it takes it doesn't matter how hard it is you push yourself through let's talk about a little bit about that like tell me a little bit about how it was through the first you know in the beginning and then what became of it and what you gained out of the program bro because i mean clearly you got fucking ripped i mean i appreciate that yeah dude like you guys should see output. We'll post his pictures in my story so you could see him. But and by the way, what's your Instagram?

So people could check it out. Yeah. So my Instagram is first name Josiah, J-O-S-I-A-H underscore Eric, E-R-I-K. Okay. So Josiah underscore Eric, E-R-I-K. Yep. You guys got to go look at his pictures because they're amazing. But lots of people get amazing pictures. I want to talk about the mentality. I want to talk about

what you gained. I want to talk about what you think it did for your life. For sure. Yeah. So going into it, because before I started it, I basically was like, my initial thought was I'm going to do do all the research this and that and for me personally i feel like the more i do that the more i'm going to overthink it and the more it's going to get complicated absolutely with 75 hard it's a program where you have to go all the way in and go 100 can't have any compromise obviously but at the same time you can't be you can't overthink it because there's your tasks and you know it need to be needs to be done and you do it it's simple yeah and so i think a lot of people like a lot of

people ask me when i finish they're like hey man like what did you do this and that but like i said going into it i didn't do a whole lot of research i knew what had to be done i had my list of meals i could eat i had my idea of macros that I needed to follow basically. And no alcohol, that stuff. But my first week, my first week actually wasn't bad because I had already been working out. And with my job I'm doing, I can even show you my phone after this. I'm doing like 10 miles a day of walking, which is about 20, basically like 20,000 steps before my cardio that I was doing outside. So my first week wasn't bad. I'm trying to think, man, as far as like, what do you want to know? Like the physical or as far as like mental? Cause I can break down both. It's a little different for you. Cause you're, you know,

usually when people talk about the first couple of weeks, they're in a lot of pain because it's an unusual amount of activity for them but with you being active uh it's it's a lot i think it probably was a little bit helpful for you in terms of like your feet priding it all fucked up well yeah i don't want to get it twisted i don't want anyone thinking like i'm i just did it and i wasn't in pain like yeah when i would get off work i told you know you know, Tori, I'd get off work at, you know, sometimes 10, 11 at night and I would do my weightlifting in the morning. I would check, I would typically check the weather, um, to make sure it wasn't going to like storm at night. Cause I did have to do workouts in the storm, but basically I would check the weather,

make sure it wasn't going to rain. Uh, some'd basically get off and I'd be doing cardio, man, at 11 o'clock at night and my feet are killing me, my back's killing me. But those moments, no bullshit, were the moments where I had the most mental clarity as far as digging deep and having those conversations with myself. And I don't think that's what a lot of people understand who haven't done it because if you do it i was telling these guys before um only the people that have truly done it feel that mentality that's right that you feel that's right when you're at your peak that's right um progressing through 75 hard that's right and so you can't know that until you've done it right so that's the hard thing people are like

oh yeah i did 21 days and i figured it out no you fucking did it you didn't learn shit you just barely got in the routine of this right you know what i'm saying how was it dude when you um you know like i'm thinking about the ups guys that we have here, I mean, they work their fucking asses off, bro. I mean, there is no shortage of hard work there. So what I'm curious because not everybody has that active of a lifestyle. So what was the biggest struggle for you going through the program? Dude, believe it or not, um, believe it or not, it was the second workout because i would get done man and i would just my back would be fried my i'd be sore from the workout from the day before not cardio but from weight lifting or crossfit whatever i did um but it was 1000 that second workout and going home from work correct yeah and going into it excuse me i thought that would be the easiest aspect or

task of completing in 75 hard it's just a it's just a little bit of cardio right yeah and i got into that man and i'd have days where i'd be like dude i'd be walking like an old man like holding the lower part of my back like strutting through this neighborhood people are looking at me like 11 o'clock at fucking night in the rain some days i would i would go straight from work and i would keep my ups uniform on i'm not making this up no i get it and uh i would just be like walking in my neighborhood man with with my ups we got our ups our usps driver here pat did 75 hard oh really and he did the same he i'd see him out here doing 75 hard that's badass in his in his uniform that's what's up yeah

so that's super cool. A lot of, a lot of, uh, uh, parcel delivery guys have done the program. I've heard from a lot of them. You're the first one I've had on the show, obviously.

Cause everybody, I mean, everybody I've talked to UPS, I'll tell people about it and they'll look at me like, dude, like what's going on in your head. And I'm like, you're fucking crazy.

I'm like, dude, I'm, I'm trying to get comfortable with being uncomfortable, man. That's all I'm trying to do. I'm young. I can,

I can be active right now. I'm healthy. I got a job. They can pay for a gym membership. I had two gym memberships at the time. I was doing 75 hard. Over time, man, I saw it as more of almost like a blessing. Dude, I'm healthy enough to do this, and I'm growing as an individual. That's the way I looked at it when people looked at me like I was crazy and I'm like, dude,

how many times do you have to do your second, uh, that, that outdoor workout in the rain or, or elements? So I have, it's crazy. Uh, probably, I'd say probably like, honestly, probably like 15 times. Yeah. It's the midwest man yeah we have rain middle of the summer dude there's tornado warnings and everything for me those are my favorite workouts oh dude that's when you dig deep man yeah that's my favorite workout and my favorite workout is my favorite 75 hard workout i've ever done was literally the hardest one i ever did which was i did cardio outside and uh january of this year 2021 it's minus 18 out and and like i was in my fucking ski gear right that's some balls dude that's where

that's the difference between yeah dude and i'm out here right dude i was out there and it's fucking winds blowing there's fucking snow on the ground uh nuts are inside you you're like dude i'm yeah but bro people are driving by me in the road and they're stopping me and they're like, dude, you need help? And I'm like, no. Thinking you're some crackhead or something, man. Yeah. But dude, that's where I always got the most out of.

I get the most power out of that because I'm able to be like, man, nobody's doing this. Nobody's doing this. Right. And the thing that I really want to talk about that stood out to me when I was doing it is, um, a lot of people like to get motivated through certain individuals and certain moments in their life. And they're, they're motivated for a short amount of time, temporarily motivated. That's what it is. Yeah. And, uh, we all know that, but when you're doing 75 hard, you're basically permanently self-motivating your mind so you're not looking for podcasts it

motivate you you're not you're digging deep and having these conversations where no one else is around you're not talking to anybody except for god yeah if if you have faith yeah and um which i do god will talk to you even if you don't have faith yeah yeah that's right no attention yeah no no that's that's facts and uh so again i mean you're you're literally having these these conversations with yourself man and like i'd have i'd have nights man where i'd be walking and i would just start like yelling dude like just amp like yeah not even piss nothing just like i felt something go through me and i was just like dude i'm unstoppable yeah bro that is awesome yeah and that's that's that and obviously throughout the 75 days you're not not 24 hours a day for 75 days

100 yeah let's talk about that dude like what were some like what were some of the tests you know what i'm saying like how because dude everybody that goes through 75 hard no matter how much you say i'm fucking doing this it doesn't matter who it is it could be it could be anybody me included i got days where i'm like fuck this shit you know i'm saying and i'm like damn dude and then i got to center myself back and i'm like no you got to do it right how how how much of that conversation did you have with yourself dude full transparency man that i'm not bullshitting you yeah the thing that you said about if i quit i'm a fraud yeah and it just carries you through it's stuck in my head and like so for me like well dude that says

a lot about who the fuck you are but but that's not but again you know it's not this isn't going on for 24 hours a day for 25 days i had had those thoughts where I'm like, dude, like this shit sucks, man. So I would say day one through 25, I would have probably once a day, I would have a thought in my head, like, I know one's going to give a shit if you quit. Like no one's going to know. Like, and then that thought that you said there that you spoke about on that podcast about being a fraud, you just came back and it bit me and that was the boss voice your boss voice came in and and and smashed pull my ass back that's right bro and uh so basically up until like 25 i had those you know questions like

man i don't know if i'm gonna do this and then after i think it was 24 it might have been yeah it was 25 because i was a third of the way through um that's when i switched gears dude i was like i'm 1000 not quitting i'm making this my bitch and i'm going all the way in that's all and uh again that thought of of you just saying can't be a fraud yeah can't be can't be quitting man stuck with me bro i listen i think we spend a lot of time i think of everybody if every single person is honest with themselves you spend a lot of time actually being a fucking fraud okay a lot of us like to think especially as we get older we like to we like to hang on to our past accomplishments right and you know you know the guys like hey dude i scored four touchdowns in fucking high

school i've been that guy right yeah exactly or or uh you know i used to be in great shape back back no one cares back then dude right and that's fraudulent thinking like you're hanging on to an identity that no longer exists what's your identity now right and this is what causes people all this frustration and anguish and pain and depression is because they're not living up to the standard that they know they should be living up to. And they're afraid to answer to it. And what this program does is it literally forces you into the person that you wish you were, you know, and, uh, I've heard it over and over and over again, but I mean, like to me, the testing of yourself daily daily every single day is almost a requirement for being happy at all you know like how did how did you feel uh mood wise through the program were you crabby are

you naturally a happy guy or were you um i mean tory could probably even yeah talk on this um but i mean for the most part i i can be on edge yeah but i noticed um before i did 75 hard with all the negative things that have been normalized that i've been doing basically um kind of just like implemented that negative thought process into my head but i never realized it because i think it's so normal for people to think negative it's it's a cultural norm now right yeah yeah it's it's normal which is about how we do with our friends bro we get around some of our friends we all got them and and you try to have a conversation and you try to move forward in a positive way and it ends up being a bitch fest right about the job about the relationship it's literally hard to get if you really pay attention

it's really hard to hear positive shit well and that's that's the biggest thing is like i would notice like i as time went on through the 75 days i would the people who were negative and weak-minded would get exposed through my eyes just because i'm i'm doing what i know i need to do and i'm not doing the negative bullshit that i'd been consistently buying into in the past. And not that you're like, not that you're a horrible person.

No, no, no beer from time to time or eating a cheeseburger. That's not what I'm saying. No, I'm saying that it's become some, so normal to become negative. And I'm not saying this mediocre too.

Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Hold ourselves to a standard. That's comfortable. Not a standard that helps us and helps our family and helps our communities. We, we, I believe that we've become a, a nation of mediocre thinking.

And when you try to do anything that's outside of that for any reason, you know, it's going to show you, you can see it very clearly. Well, even the people that I grew up like respecting, this isn't on anybody listening, but even the people that I grew up like respecting and loving, like some people would say things like basically trying to compromise for me throughout this program. Like for instance, I drive for UPS. I'm outside working 10 hours a day. I can already tell you what they said, bro. Bro, you're already working so hard.

You're doing enough. Right. You already work hard and everybody i know and that was when i immediately thought i for one second i thought about it yeah one second and then that uh thing that you said about if you have to think about it can't do it yeah simple as that yeah and um so basically like i had people like almost trying to like justify and like compromise my situation and i shut it down yeah and good for you don't get me wrong it's people that i love people that are important in my life but at the same time it's like josiah you're doing them a favor when you do right right that's the thing

yeah and that's growth and if you can see an individual like truly develop themselves from how they were from day one to day 75 as much as you want to judge them, whatever. Um, you know, if you love somebody and you see that, then you got to appreciate that. And that's, that's what I saw. Also, when you really love someone and you really care about people, it's our obligation to show them what it looks like to, to squeeze more out of our lives. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. As, as, as as as respected members of our little tribes you know we have to take it upon ourselves to show people like hey this is how you get better this is how you win i believe that well i mean if we i mean 100 i agree we lived in a world where

everybody was like hey man you're okay to get off work go home watch watch Netflix, not read to gain some knowledge, not work out to stay healthy. I mean, we'd be in a world where nothing will get done. There'd be no successful people. And I mean, obviously there's people who are doing 75 hard and people who are working on self-development, but just imagine a world, man, where everybody did 75 hard. Like think about, I know it's not going to happen. I would pay every cent in my bank account for that to happen. Man, I would too. I'm dead serious. I would too.

Today, I wouldn't even think twice about it. Dude, that investment would be, I can't even give you the dollar amount for the fact that people would be just completely changed, man. And again, I'm not sitting here trying to sell the program to anybody no but that's how we change the culture bro we change the culture through our individual change right you know what i'm saying so like the good thing for me and you is we don't have to pay everybody all we got to do is do the shit and people see that right that's

exactly right i've had probably no joke 50 60 people reach out man and ask questions and i've said it's fucking awesome it's not for everybody and again i'm not i'm not calling you a piece of Probably no joke. 50, 60 people reach out, man, and ask questions. And I've said- It's fucking awesome. It's not for everybody. And again, I'm not calling you a piece of shit if you don't do it by any means. But if you are stuck in a place where you, whether you're a UPS driver, own a company, whatever it might be, if you're stuck in a place where, basically, if you're just stuck, then do 75 hard because it will completely switch your mindset.

And again, I preach, I put in my post that it was all the mental aspect of it. And I had one dude comment on like one of the 75 hard pages. He's like, this dude must not have understood like the point of it. Of you? Of me. And I was like, dude, did you not read in my post

that I said it was the mental aspect? Because he's like, he saw my before and after picture and he's like it's not the physical part of it and i was like dude the physical is a representation of how strict you were with the program right sorry that's just a part of it my iq dropped when i read that i was like i know this dude i was like for some reason you don't get it yeah there's this there's this like it's like anything with any sort of like accomplishment right like uh you could take an iron man for example or a marathon and there's critics of how it should be done or power lifting only this counts or that counts or this or that and it's funny because the motherfuckers that say that shit are usually

ones that never did it right you know i'm saying yeah it's people who have tried it like three or four times quote unquote tried it there is no fucking trying 75 hard guys it's a fucking commitment for first time in your fucking life make a fucking commitment and say dude no matter what for the next 75 fucking days this is what i'm doing and i don't give a fuck if the fucking world ends i'm doing it and people will respect you% more if you say that and you do it. Yeah. Because I've, I had people in my life, I won't mention names, but I had people that have come up to me and they're like, man, I'm a bad start 75 hard. And then I'd see like people, I was following on Instagram, like influencers, um, who would be in the middle of 75 hard dude.

And they'd post pictures of like them eating pizza. And like, it's like, dude, you don't get it. You either get it or you don't. Yeah. And if you don't get it, you don't get it. And that's okay. Yeah. But if you say you want to get better, get better, get better and do it because a lot of people want to play this game. Um, I know I keep bringing these back. No, bro. You fought you. You said it when you said, cause what happens is it exposes, right? it changes your talent it changes your tolerance for excuses right like all those justifications that people tell you you have while you're doing the program you could tell me if this happened to you but you know you you begin to recognize that really all they're doing is verbalizing their own justification as to why they're not doing it.

Exactly. And it becomes very clear what things are excuses or stories or justifications when you are actually following through in your own life. And it makes it really fucking crystal clear. And I would argue it's one of the hardest things for people to deal with on the program because you kind of separate yourself from a lot of people who are probably really good friends or people that love you and care about you because your mentality has completely fucking changed. But the good part of that, right, there's a good part in it. The bad part is at first it's uncomfortable. The good part is a number of those people will figure out, Hey man, I should be following

along. Yeah, no, a hundred percent. And once you, and going into that kind of, once you learn how to say no and truly mean it, you're like, no. Yeah. And you say no, people will be like, well, shit, I don't, I don't have a rebuttal for that. You want to fight me?

You want to fight me? Cause I don't want to go get a beer. let's fight dude i'm cool i'm cool with that but i'm saying like there's literally no other rebuttal no i think that's the i think that's one of the the very underrated true keys of that program bro is that it really does teach you to say no without apologizing right you have to because you have to do it yeah the first time it's like no because i'm doing and eventually you get tired of saying no you're like no i'm not doing it when i've always i'll be if we're being honest i've always been the kind of person that i've been in my past i've been a

people pleaser type of person where obviously i want people i want to make people happy yeah but you end up doing things that you didn't actually really want to do to make those people happy right and that are things that didn't serve you to make them happy. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And so over time, that was what I got really good at is saying no and meaning it. Because once you have that vision, man, once you're 100% invested, there's no other option. And I can truly say, man, on everything that there wasn't one time where there was compromise,

man. And that alone right there, because I easily- I can tell. I easily could have drank a beer after a long day at work. time uh where there was compromise man and that alone right there because i easily tell i easily could have yeah i easily could have drank a beer after a long day at work i easily could have whatever but like it's that it's that thought in your head that you're like no one's gonna know you can't fake that dude can't fake it listen this is that's the funniest thing about the 75 hard uh phenomenon or whatever you want to call it because it's not a trend. It's been going on for three fucking years. It's not going anywhere, by the way. I have a second book about it coming out.

But the point of it is, is that you end up in a situation that brings clarity to literally almost every area of your life that you didn't have before. Talk about that, dude. Like, talk about some of the mental gains. Like, where were you weak? Like you just said a minute ago, like you're a people pleaser, right? And this program has helped you realize that that's not always productive for what you want to do, right? Right. So let's talk about some of the more mental things. Like, how did it affect your relationships with like people or food or even your relationship here like um so i would say our relationship got better because being in that positive as far as tori and in my relationship um i think it got better because i was in that clear positive mindset for the majority of the time and i was very open-minded to um conversation that wasn't

uh going to be negative. I was 100% more understanding than what I was before because I was a lot more positive. As far as other things, I truly believe that you basically have to do something out of your normal job, out of your normal life to grow. And that's self-development. So for example, I honestly don't know what I'm going to do for the rest of my life. I'm not saying that I'm going to be at UPS. So for example, I'm not, I honestly don't know what I'm going to do for the rest of my life. I'm not saying that I'm going to be at UPS. I'm not saying I'm not. Um, but I truly believe in like educating yourself. And the only way to do that is by

getting out of your comfort zone when you're off of work, when you're, um, when you have that time and it kind of goes into time management and with the whole reading thing um i realized that like before 75 hard i wasn't i wasn't learning shit about anything man i wasn't focusing on really anything i was going to work i was coming home i was hanging out with my family my friends nothing wrong with that no but i wasn't growing right and if you're not growing if you're not learning technically you're dying yep and um basically that's the way i saw it so So over time, I definitely saw that that was something that I grew in and kind of changed into. But I mean, man, just overall time management, dude, you don't realize it's simple. You don't realize how much bullshit you're doing

that you know you shouldn't be doing. And over time that gets exposed. And if you are focused on what needs to be done day to day and you win the day, you're going to see that. And that's going to get exposed over time. And you're going to be like, okay, I can't be doing this. I need to slow down with this. I need to focus more on that. And yeah. Just the pure lack of time that it creates, creates you to be, it actually creates the perception of more time right exactly yeah you feel like that yeah yeah yeah yeah and so like it got to the point dude where i was on like day i know that doesn't make sense to people people are like hearing that and they're like what you're doing more how do you mean yeah yeah no no i get that 100 because i got to uh i got

to like day 50 dude and i was so locked on my day-to-day uh or on my daily tasks i had to do for 75 hard that i had it down to the t like the only thing i couldn't control is exactly what time i got off work yeah so i'd wake up i'd start chugging water i'd literally wake up start chugging water yeah as much as i get ahead of the game yeah because i knew because i knew i was going to the gym yeah or i was doing cardio if you're doing cardio you're sweating so you're sweating out a lot of that water which is good because you're not pissing 15 times. So I would go to the gym. Immediately when I woke up, I'd usually eat like an apple, banana, whatever fruit, just a quick carb in me.

Go to the gym. I'd come home, eat my breakfast. Typically the same thing every day. It'd be Ezekiel bread, avocado, eggs. Basically that and a protein shake go to work um and the only thing i could control at work was the water i was consuming as fast as i could because again you don't want to be drinking water at nine o'clock at night yeah going to the bathroom many times it kind of fucks you up because then you're up all night right yeah and then yeah

obviously you got to be up for the next day yeah Yeah. Can't be having that. So, um, basically, uh, I'd go to work and I'd put the only focus I had, man, was working, drinking water and not eating, not cheating on, on my diet and then just eating the meals that I packed over my part of my meal plan. And then again, get off work, whether I did cardio or lifted, I'd get home, do that. So again, that was the only time I couldn't control. And that, that is why I said that was the hardest part because I'd have, I'd get home, do that. So again, that was the only time I couldn't control. And that is why I said that was the hardest part because I'd have days I'd get off at five and then I'd have days I'd get off at 1130

and I'm driving home, trying not to fall asleep and I'm doing cardio. And again, the more you get into it, the more you have those conversations in your head and you'd start digging deep and you're like, I'm unstoppable, dude. And that's where I got. But I think this kind of

conversation always starts with me going like this like the first 10 minutes of me being outside when it's fucking late in the especially when the weather's bad and it's late what the fuck am i doing like why am i doing this initially yeah i get mad for like the first five minutes then for like 30 minutes i go into like the zone and then the last five minutes i'm like yeah fuck all these bitches man i fucking did this like it did yeah like a hundred percent yeah so i walk back in the house it's one o'clock in the morning and i'm like fucking fired up and then i pass out you're ready yeah exactly and that's another thing dude is people don't realize you're doing so much in a day you're winning you're winning every day you're doing so much that by the end of the day dude

you're beat yeah like you don't you're not thinking about drinking a beer you're not thinking about eating a bad meal dude you just dominated that day you're dead you're dead ass tired by the time you by the time you lay down but um if we're being honest man the hardest part as far as like the period wise um where i was at i really and i heard this on another podcast, but I saw this big time was, uh, that day 50 dude, day 50 to like, I don't know if it was 60 or like 58, maybe what my ass dude, I was there. I knew I was going to finish, but I was like, man, this sucks. Those are the fucking dog days. Dog days.

They are. It's because you're over the excitement of it. And now it's a routine and you're like, but I still got to keep going. And I've still got like 25 days left. And it starts in like, dude, you're sore. You're fucking literal. You're physically tired. And that's where the most, I think the most growth I've done the program successfully

seven times. And I, I get better every single time. Like no bullshit. Every time I do it, I was looking back at my pictures of doing it uh the first time i did it and i was comparing them to like my pictures like now i thought i was in shape i'm like fuck dude i look like shit you know what i'm saying i remember posting that shit being all proud of it too be like hey check this out but like every time i've gone through it i've uh i've gained more and more and more but dude what's

consistent with me is that that period of time fucking sucks it's horrible yeah it sucks and and people don't understand it obviously if you haven't done it but it's that it's a period where you're like all right i'm doing it i'm finishing but at the same time that's when you got people low-key man that's when you got people thinking that you're gonna fail yeah it's like that's kind of it's not my motivation but you got those same people that came up to you in the beginning saying shit like this are you still doing that oh you're still doing that 75 hard yeah motherfucker i'm still doing it because it's like two months ago hopefully at that point those people aren't in your life yeah no when you get to day 50 and people are coming up to you or if

they're coming coming up to you and giving you shit then they obviously got nothing going on in their lives so they need a little you know entertainment it's the equivalent of uh it's the equivalent of people that's that that i haven't seen in a long time and don't really keep up with what's going on they don't do it too much anymore but you know five six years ago bro still got that little vitamin store it's the same shit dude oh dude it's like yeah motherfucker what do you think yeah what do you think yeah you see the way i'm living come on now yeah um dude it's uh you know it's it's a weird time that those 10 days i don't know what it is bro but like that those 10 days every time i've done the program brother it's there every day is a literal test where i'm like

fuck this i'm not doing it and i do it because dude i always think like i have failed a couple times uh one time was intentional one time was not um i heard about the intentional time with my dad oh no i thought one of them you said you like loki wanted to start over no well what happened was my dad flew out to vegas to surprise me when i was out there and wanted to have some fucking beers my dad's 75 years old i have some fucking yeah very few times in your life that's it yeah i get that i get that that was one and then the other one uh was last december and i literally had like a fucking physical breakdown where i got covid so i i had a problem i had an injury then i got hurt or no i'm sorry i got hurt um then i got like i i went through this period of like three days where because i have insomnia where i didn't sleep at all and then my body like

fucking quit and then i got covid all right at the same time so that threw me off but i'm sure once you got healthy you were back at it as soon as that yeah yeah but i mean like dude for me you know i i i i'm embarrassed to fail like i it wouldn't like even when i posted those two times it was extremely embarrassing for me to to say you know what i mean so and but you shared that though you oh yeah what'd you do just put it on my story yeah yeah see i think i think that's super cool because a lot of people um they'll just fall off and that that was what i was like almost worried about i was like if i don't finish then i'm just going to be a fraud man and people are going to look at me and be like this dude's doing the same thing he was doing 10 years ago and nothing changed yeah so i think that's pretty cool too especially because things are going to happen man for sure life situations come up and

it's okay to start over yeah um but just admit when you fail and then my first day back in the gym after that covid i started back over like you know what i'm saying a couple days after no no no first day i was able to go back to the gym yeah after being home for a couple of weeks, I was at it. But dude, I think a big problem that a lot of people have with the program, with finishing, is that they just started with the wrong attitude. They started with that attitude like they start every diet. I think if you listen close here, I'm going to give you one of the biggest keys to fixing this problem for you guys. A lot of people who struggle with their bodies and their fitness go back and forth and back and

forth and back and forth. A lot of it has to do with their, they don't have enough, um, they don't have a big enough reason and it's just not important enough to them because they've never even, most of these people have never even really looked good. I was never someone who looked fit. So like I never knew what it was like. So it wasn't that important to me. So every time I try to lose weight, I didn't really lose any weight because I didn't understand what it meant to be like when I was in shape. You see what I'm saying? Right. So what clicked for me, and I think this will resonate with a lot of you guys is I started looking at it as a mental challenge. I started looking at it as a mental test and, and you know, I'm not a fucking punk

dude. Like I got some mental fortitude and I take pride in that in myself. And I think everybody should think everybody should take pride in the amount of discipline that they have. And when I switched the idea of, I want to do a, of this program from like just to lose weight or look better to, I'm going to fucking pass this mental test because I'm tough and I'm badass and I'm going to, I want to be, I want to be stronger in that regard. It made it way easier to fucking stick to the food part. Cause the food part for me and alcohol part for me is always the hardest. Like, um, I love beer. I love alcohol. Yeah. You know, and, and I grew up in a culture where, you know drink we're drinkers cincinnati's the

same kind of place yeah i mean it's you know it's a social thing man i mean it's not it's not a drink for me at least it's not like a drinking problem but it's like you're with no but like that's what you do right what do you do in cincinnati for fun bro you go to fucking bars and he's the same thing as you eat some greasy food man that's right and uh no i mean and that's another thing that i didn't even really talk on is like uh at first the alcohol was was difficult not to have a drink yeah for the first couple weeks but over time and again when you're drinking a gallon of water a day and you're not drinking alcohol at all dude you feel oh incredible physically yeah and when you're

doing a job that's physically demanding manual labor like working for ups dude it it helps man yeah oh yeah yeah so i got i got a quick funny story to tell you real quick so uh tori basically made this like healthy tuna salad that was a part of my meal plan and uh she was like showing me the ingredients she was cooking with because i had to make sure i could eat it yeah condiments and everything yeah and so she has this like i think it was like this dijon mustard and it said infused with white wine and uh i saw it and i was like babe i can't i can't eat i can't eat this and immediately she ended up eating it but uh yeah i was like dude that's how to the t man i bro that's how you have to be people what that's the right way to be okay and like i

if you if you've been using that sauce for the last 60 days and you're listening to this show i don't give a fuck that's not the point but the point is is that we should always err on the side of what the right thing to do is right and that's one of the beautiful things about this program that when you do it right it starts to it starts to curve you and bring you know because the program clearly like the way i think about about it and describe it as you know is like it's kind of like madden right like you got it you know the football game madden yep and the guy's got like 99 speed 99 strength 99 uh, smart, right? Right. Like, so all of those levels are always changing in us.

And, and because of what we put in our bodies and our minds, those levels are perishable skills. Just like, uh, lifting weights is a perishable thing, right? You don't lift, you're going to lose some muscle. That's if you, if you lift, you're going to gain some muscle. Um, just because you lifted weights 16 years ago really has very little to do with you now. So when we think about our skill sets and our mental skill sets, like, uh, you know, discipline, fortitude, uh, great. You know, all of these things that are, that are related to the idea of being mentally tough, right? The ability to persevere, all of these

things, they all come from us testing ourselves on a regular basis, right? They all come from us passing these little bitty, what we seem to think are insignificant tests in our real life. And what happens over time is our levels, you know, where at one point, you know, when we were at some point in our life, we probably had some higher levels. They start to come down, but they start to come down so imperceptibly that we don't even notice it. And then we end up, you know, in a place where we're like looking in the mirror, we're like, fuck, dude, what happened to me? Right.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And people in our society tend to think that that's just natural. It's natural. Like you hit a peak and then you just start to fade down and then you get old. Right. And I just don't think that's the case at all. I'm a firm believer that those things are 100% skill sets that you can invest in and

develop and create if you do things that create them i had a guitar teacher once tell and this is something that has stuck with me for a long time in life because i'm not a patient person bro i'm not either yeah i'm a fucking like right now yep you know i'm saying and like dude it's a great thing for like business but it's sometimes my people hate me because i'm like no bro right now like right now yeah, and so I'm like that with everything. And I had a guitar teacher tell me, you know, cause playing guitar, dude, is, is a really difficult thing to learn. Um, he said, Andy, you know, you don't have any patience at all.

And I'm like, yeah, I'm aware, bro. Like teach me this shit, you know, and then, uh, I need to learn now. Yeah. I want to be able to play some shit right now bro freebird let's go you know that's crazy you say that because my uh my dad's a great guitar player he's a musician and uh i grew up trying to learn bass yeah and people would ask me they'd be like why don't you play guitar this and that i said the same exact thing i was like dude i'm not patient enough yeah and that's okay well he said it is and because it's a good

thing to be impatient sometimes right and i think the older we get. And that's okay. Well, he said it is. And it, cause it's a good thing to be impatient sometimes. Right. And I think the older we get urgency, man, that's right. The older that we get, we learn where to apply that urgency and where we need to apply patience. And, you know, for me growing up, it was always urgency, urgency, urgency, urgency, which has kind of fucked me up now. Cause now I'm always intense. But the thing he said to me that stuck with me was you say, well, you know how you develop patience, don't you? And I said, well, no. And he goes, well, you got to do things that require patience. And that always stuck with me, dude.

And I let that simmer for like almost a decade in my life. Like, what does he mean? Like, you could create patience by doing things that are patient. Well, if you create patience by doing things that are patient, you could create discipline by doing things that are patient. Well, if you create patience by doing things that are patient, you could create discipline by doing things that require discipline. You can create fortitude by requiring things that require fortitude. You could create all of these different skill sets by just doing the things, no different than us going to the gym and lifting weights.

Well, and that's what 75 Heart is. For sure. When you're doing- It's the first program ever to help with that side of, with that side of life, right? When you, when you're dealing with that grit mindset of doing the same thing over and over again to improve for your own self-development over time, you'll start to realize that you do get a little bit more patient with certain aspects of your life. And again, you know, knowing the difference between what needs to be urgent and what needs to be, I think awareness, right dude right like like i think the way to describe

what both of us are talking about is almost like it just makes you more aware exactly for me yeah it continues to do for me like what i thought i was awareness like two years ago was not aware you know what i'm saying not even close yeah and like what's what's fucked up about it bro too at least in my point of view is like for me i actually feel dumber now than i felt two years ago even though i'm much more successful now than i was two years ago and it's because of the ultra crazy awareness that living a disciplined lifestyle like that creates yep you know i start to realize fuck dude you expose yourself man yeah you you you talked all that shit you really didn't know anything yeah that's good that's real growth though man for sure that's self-development that's what that's what all this is about or what at least it should be for the most part but you know it is man it is and and i

think you know the physical i think you'll agree with this too because bro you look like a fucking model like like guys he's this dude is fucking chiseled out of fucking granite, okay? But as cool as that is, it doesn't even compare to the other shit that you gain out of it, in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I honestly, between you and me and all the listeners, I didn't even have like a physical goal. Between you and me and a couple million other people. Between you and me and a couple million other people. Between you and me and everyone else.

But I didn't have, basically I didn't have a certain goal of losing weight. I knew that if I was going to drink a gallon of water, work out twice a day. You'd be ripped. I'd be ripped. I'd be healthy.

I'd be feeling a lot better. And that was way more important to me, overall feeling better, and then having that better mental attitude than a transformation picture. Do you come from an athletic background yeah for the most part i'd say i have i have two other brothers um i grew up playing every sport you could think of my dad was really good at uh baseball um i mean for the most part yeah pretty athletic but i've always man i've been working out since i

was 16 i used to be a long distance runner. I ran a half marathon when I was in sixth grade. So I've always enjoyed doing things. As weird as it sounds, I started running 5Ks when I was, I think my first 5K, I was in third grade or something like that. So you're one of those kids. You're one of those kids that we see at the 5Ks that are like real little running the fucking 5K. And the crazy thing is, is like probably 15 days into 75 hard, I hadn't ran a race in like probably 10 years, man.

And I did a trail run and I finished in like exactly 45 minutes. And it was my outdoor workout. This is 45 minutes. And it was 5.6 miles. And I had some like, Corey was there. I had some 14 year old kick my ass. He completely whipped me. But it some 14 year old kick my ass. He completely whipped me, but it was the first time I did it. And again, that's one of those things where I got out of my comfort zone and I knew being 170 pounds, I was like, I haven't ran

in a while, but I'm going to do something that, you know, is going to make me uncomfortable to grow. So. I brought Tori on. She's been sitting here the whole time, listening to the conversation, sort of nodding along, chiming in a little bit here and there. What do you think the biggest change, like from your point of view, what is it the biggest changes with Josiah been through that program? I think that he, I don't know. He was like, he kept asking me, he's like, do you really think I can do this?

Do you really think I can do this? And I was like, yes. I was like, because if you say that you're going to do something, then you're going to do it. And I'm going to be in your ear. Like, listen, no, like you're, you have to stick to it. Um, but he, I feel like he gained a lot of patience, a lot of confidence in himself. He had buddies that were like, Oh, you're crazy. We bet that I bet you that you can, you can't make it a week. And then I bet that i bet you that you can you can't make it a week and then i bet i bet you 20 bucks that he can do it for 20 days and she's making money off me there you go

so i'm like no like you're not you're not right exactly so um i think that he just like dug really deep in himself and he learned that he's got like a lot more in him than what he thought. Yeah. He certainly doesn't. You certainly aren't lacking confidence, bro. And that's a good, that's a compliment. It's a great thing. Well, and the thing comes, it's, I picked it up when we were in the gym and you walk

through. Like, dude, appreciate that. A hundred percent. Like it was very, that means a lot. That does. Dude. Well, I was going to say like, uh, before I got invited, because honestly, when Emily reached out and sent me an email, I thought somebody was pranking me, dude.

I was like, this dude doesn't even doesn't know me from Adam. I could be a crazy person. And the fact that like he brought me out here, if I would have been invited out here for a reason other than 75 hard without doing 75 hard, I don't think I would have came out here. Well, because my confidence level has just been that it built my confidence no bro level your confidence was so strong that you reached out to me and said and we just exactly and said hey i want to be on the show bro i felt that through the way that you communicate to me and i'm like this is a guy i want on the show that's

what's up you know i'm saying i was talking to paulo one of the girls that uh that works here uh earlier And we were talking a little bit about that. Cause you walk through, that's who I was talking to when you walked up, we were talking about some work shit. And, uh, she was like, who's that? And I said, well, he's, he's here for 75 hard podcast. And she's like, okay, well, what's the story? I said, I don't even know. And she goes, she goes, you had them on the show. You don't know his story. I'm like, no, I don't need to know because everybody you know that says oh i got a good story and this and that it was just the way you communicated it

to me that i knew that you had done the program well and kind of going off that this is going to be a real does that make sense yeah like it was so direct and so confident that i was like all right i want to hear from this guy well that's what i said because because going into a quick little story off that so basically i was halfway through a 75 hard. I had a buddy who I knew that I wasn't friends with and I followed him on social media. Um, his name's Austin Thies and he's a fellow listener of yours, obviously. But basically I hit him up. I was like, dude, if you want to do cardio, let's do cardio, whatever. If you want to lift, let's lift. So we're doing cardio, um, at this track. And I i was like dude i have this voice in my head telling me i need to go on real af and tell my

story and i'm dead serious and uh immediately after i said that i'm like dude like there's no way i'm i'm getting on this show dude there's thousands of people whatever and as soon as i said that i'm like it's so weird as soon as i said that i was like he immediately said austin said he's like dude you can't think that way he He's like, what the hell are you doing? And, uh, basically I caught myself right away and I was like, you're right, dude. Like I need to, I need to attack this. Like I need to actually try to do this because something is telling me I need to be on the show. And then I finished the 75th day and, uh, I told Tori the next day, I was like, I want to be on this show. Like I got to,

I got to talk about what happened. And basically I posted that picture and you shared it. And I called Tori. I'm like, like, yo, like he shared this,

like this and that. And then I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I was like, I was like, I'm asking if I could be on the show. And so I mess,

I'm like, I'm a message, I'm going to message you and you're like, send me your info. And I was like, is somebody messing with me now and then like two three weeks later i'm at work and they're like um i get that email from emily and i'm like i just i was just like bro that's so weird because the truth here's the truth and this i believe in everything that you believe

in too by the way like i i'm a hundred percent manifestation yeah manifestation you know that i talk about it all the time. What's weird is like I'm on the receiving end of that with this because I don't ever say yes like that. Like there's never been someone who said, hey, I want to be on the show. And I'm like, okay. The only other person was the guy I just had on the show,

which was Billy, who was a guy who's running for office up in New Jersey. We talked about some politics and shit. Uh, awesome dude, but he, he's the only other one that asked. And I said, yes, but, but I said yes to you before I said yes to him. Cause this has been a while in the making. So you're actually the first person I ever said yes to like that. And so it's, I'm sitting here thinking, cause like normally, cause I'll get these people, you know, they want to come on the show for like some clout, right? Like they want to come on and get some exposure to something. And so I'm always like, no, I gotta, I really like to pick them myself. And you're the first guy that's ever reached out and be like, Hey bro, I want to share this with you. I want to be on

the show. And I'm like, okay. And like, it was that easy, wasn't it? I mean, it's just another reason why God's real, dude. And that's no joke, dude. It's weird, but I'm just saying, like you saying that. It was literally a voice in my head, dude. And then throughout 75 Hard, I would have conversations of like, the only thing I really regret is not keeping like a journal of just like my thoughts, like my day-to-day thoughts.

See, I did that the first time I went through it. So all the listeners out there, when you start 75 hard, 100% take notes on everything, all your thoughts, your actions, because you definitely won't regret it when you're done. But basically, yeah, man, I just, I had this thing in my ear and I was like, dude, I got nothing to lose. This dude probably has thousands of people hitting him up. Worst he say is no yeah and i don't have i'm not i'm not trying to get clout man i'm not looking for it i'm a ups trial i'm just a regular dude i'm just a regular dude who who had a voice in my head telling me to share my story and that's it well bro you're not a regular dude you're an exceptional dude i appreciate it yeah and i appreciate the fact that you came

out to tell your story what would you say to Okay. This is going to go out on Sunday. So, uh, you know, I'm starting to do, trying to do daily content now. So, um, and we will do daily content, but we're, we're easing our way into it. What would you say to someone who's thinking about it right now? They're listening. It's Sunday and they're, you know, tomorrow it's like, okay, I'll start tomorrow. What would you say to those people? I'd keep it pretty simple, man. Um, 75 days flies by. Um, there won't be one regret, uh, that you'll have after you're done with the 75 days. And I'm telling you right now, there won't be one event or certain thing that you had scheduled prior that involves something outside of what needed to be done for 75 hard that you're going to miss out on, man. Doing the 75 days is just going to

outweigh everything that you have going on that you had initially planned for that 75 days. So just keep that in mind. And again, if you quit, or if something happens, start from day one, but don't quit at all. and make yourself get through it right yeah see it through man because uh it's been one of the the biggest things biggest decisions i've ever made and one of the best accomplishment accomplishments that i've ever had in my entire life man i'm 28 years old and uh yeah i mean it's it's amazing like the feeling you have when you're in the middle of 75 hard and you're just having those conversations with yourself and you have that mental clarity is one of the best feelings in the world. It's a high that you can't explain, man, for real. Yeah.

And you'll feel it. If you do it, you'll feel it. Yeah. So yeah, if you're starting tomorrow, get after it. My suggestion would be don't over after it. Um, my suggestion would be don't overthink it. Um, know what you have to do. Definitely listen to the podcast if you have, and I'm sure you have, if you're listening to this one. Um, but get after it, man. Don't worry about Thanksgiving. Don't worry about Christmas. Don't worry about a friend's birthday. I went to

a Zach Brown band concert during it. You're hitting on a point now that's super important to talk about. So I want you to talk about this because what it does is it teaches you how to enjoy life without alcohol. A hundred percent. And food. And that's what exactly, yeah, that's exactly what I was about to hit on. So I did a Zach Brown band concert I went to in Cincinnati, obviously didn't drink, had a great time remembered the concert uh most people probably don't um and then i did a uh believe it or not i went to a bachelor party didn't drink everybody there was super supportive about it they're like hey man that's cool what you're doing um but you still had fucking fun yeah man played cornhole it was just hung out

with some buddies wasn't anything crazy it was just one of my buddy's house um and then uh the last the craziest thing is the last day i don't know if you know theo vaughn the comedian yeah yeah yeah so he was a dude hilarious dude he's in cincinnati um on day 75 and so i worked that day so Basically, that last day was day 75. It was a Saturday. I woke up, worked out, went to work, busted my ass because I knew I had to go to that concert. Didn't know what time I was going to get off. Went home, did my second workout, and then met up with a buddy downtown in Cincinnati to basically walk to this comedy show or whatever, P.O.

Vaughn. They're offering me beers and everything's done except for my reading yeah still gotta get my reading done i'm on day 75 so i know i'm not gonna have a beer yeah so um basically they're like offering me beers they're offering me skyline chili and all this if you know what skyline is from cincinnati it's the fucking best chili in the world bro dangerous dude dangerous to say no to skyline is not easy so basically i went to the show drank like a sparkling water or something um ended up being the dd for some of my buddies they got home safe yeah went home um i think i had some like

oatmeal and then for my last meal oatmeal or something like that and then read my book man took my picture and woke up the next day and was done dude and i was like again you know kind of going off off topic there but basically you can do things um sober man and you're gonna have you're gonna have a good time and i think that's a huge point that is a huge point like dude i that was my fear man that was honestly a big fear of mine like i got this coming up i got this coming up i got this coming up um but people see that man and they they respect that a lot they're like man you've changed in a good way but you respect it a lot too oh yeah because then you leave the event and it's a it's a win like you leave like dude listen i think you and i probably have a lot of common like

sounds like we do the same social activities the same kind of shit when i pass on those events from indulging when i leave and i'm driving away i'm like fuck yeah like that's the mental voice that starts to happen in my head instead of like where before i wouldn't have noticed it and i probably would have had to justify it right because before i started i'd be like oh yeah i'm on the program but you know fuck dude it's fucking zach. Like, you know what I'm saying? Or it's bachelor party or whatever. And then, you know, that was when I would bite the bullet.

And then the next day I would feel like dog shit, which would then lower my belief in myself, lower my confidence in myself, uh, lower my ability to trust myself, you know, and all of these key things, they're so important to being a healthy human right you know what i mean and uh i i dude i think that point um of being able to go through life because a lot of people think oh dude you got to skip all this shit if you're skipping the shit you're doing it wrong go to the events live your life that means you're dependent on that's right on alcohol to have a good time bro what i discovered, especially my first time through, because my routine before 75 Hard was typically Emily and I would go,

and then like a lot of the guys here too, we would go hang out at this little bar up the street called Billy G's. Awesome place, by the way. Love these guys. Saturday and Sunday sometimes. we'll be there for fucking five six hours we'll go there for brunch and you know brunch turns into like drinking beers all day go home at like three in the afternoon and you're fucking you know and now and then you eat some shit at night been there brother yeah bro and that's what that's what i'm saying dude

i can tell we're the same kind of dude the um the ability. So I didn't stop doing that. Like now I don't do it as much because now I've replaced that with other things that I enjoy. Um, but when I was doing it, when I started doing bros, I would, the way I kind of started it, cause I had problems like not drinking a beer in that situation i also had problems not ordering exactly the food that i needed to order right like a lot of people think you can't eat healthy on this program anywhere else no you can order anything you want to order almost anywhere that's right they'll make it for you yep uh or you can find a real option that fits in your meal plan at most places they're it's just the reality i tend to know now, I know what I'm ordering

before I even go to the place now. And there's no, I don't even look at the menu. I'm the same way. It's just, I know what I'm getting. But before, like when I was first starting the program, I had these agonizing tests, right? Like I would go to the brunch and everybody's ordering fucking beers at 10 30. Well, guess what? I like beers at 10 30. You what i like beers at 10 30 you know what i'm saying i'm that motherfucker i do too yeah yeah 100 so that was a hard thing for me because i really do like beer early in the morning like that i know that sounds weird to people that that's not weird man it's a midwest that is a midwest thing it's not weird and so like i started replacing it with just coffee or decaf coffee and it was almost like it weaned me off of it because like, dude,

you can't really just guzzle coffee, right? You're taking like little sips. I mean, you're in a social gathering. Yeah. But what I realized, dude, is I had so much better conversations and so much more fun and laugh so much more when I wasn't drinking than when I was. And I started to not even, then I went away from coffee and I just went to water. And now I'm perfectly comfortable sitting with anybody, even if they're drinking all day with me, just drinking my water, chilling

and, uh, you know, bullshitting with them. Right. So it's weird how, and now, now dude, sometimes I'll choose to drink, but you know, it's not like we're a lot of the times, like you said in the beginning of the show where these other influences were come in and, uh, sort of make you compromise what you know you needed to do because you wanted to please the group right and and now i'm thinking about this shit and it kind of makes sense as to why i'm so resistant to this fucking narrative that's going on in the world right now because i don't have to fucking i don't peer pressure doesn't work on me

anymore right you're saying you're past that dude. That makes a lot of sense. Cause I'm, I'm like breakthrough, dude. Yeah, dude. No, for real. Cause I'm sitting here thinking like,

what? I was just talking to some guys this morning. Why the fuck do I talk so much about this shit? And you know what it is? It's cause I'm not fucking, I'm not a bitch, bro. You're not going to pressure me into changing what the fuck I'm doing.

And that's the first step. It comes from this. It's 75 hard. It's crazy, dude. Cause I've always been that better band. step it comes from this it's 75 hard dude it's crazy dude yeah because i've always been that they better ban 75 hard then because it's making free thinkers everywhere dude it's crazy yeah because yeah i've but you know i'm saying though yeah so like now you're now i'm comfortable in those situations and not only am i comfortable i enjoy them more

you're genuinely happy yes yeah and that's that's yeah that's super cool man because a lot of people would sit there and be like struggling like oh i need alcohol i need this to have a good time but yeah to be able to sit there man and listen to a show or have a conversation with somebody whatever it might be yeah is uh that's big man yeah well bro this is this has been an awesome conversation man uh i really appreciate you guys making the trip out for this dude i appreciate i appreciate you fucking reaching out and having some initiative dude i respect the fuck out of that's what you get man you grow some balls with 75 hard i'm dead serious yeah and and don't don't all you guys start telling me you want to be on the show because i'm gonna say fucking

no there was something about the way i i don't know i just knew i had to have you here man thank you man i'm now like now i know why because that was an awesome conversation i appreciate that brother thank you for having us everything's been so generous well it's been it's seriously like people would talk about it but like i like lost my mind in there dude when i saw that locker yeah and i was like this is the coolest thing ever man like i i don't even know well bro that's that's just respect that's big you know that goes a long way. Yeah, well, that's respect. Everybody in here, these two guys have done it. Most of the people in this building, they all understand what an accomplishment it is, and it's taken very seriously within that group.

So that's respect from the team to you, bro. I appreciate that. Thank you guys so much for coming on. Give them your Instagram one more time so these guys can check it out yeah so uh real simple well not real simple but uh first name josiah j-o-s-i-a-h underscore eric e-r-i-k guys go give them answer support if you're in the 75 heart community give them a follow uh communicate with them when i was gonna say yeah if anybody feel free to reach out with any questions uh that you might have because i, I'll take the time to answer them because it's something I'm passionate about. But yeah, anything, shoot my way and I'd be happy to talk about with any of the listeners

out there. Well, dude, I appreciate that. I appreciate you, man. You're changing lives out there for real. For the people that do it, do it the right way. All I'm doing is showing the way. You got to do it yourself. So you did it. Thank you. So thank you i appreciate it man much respect all right guys that's the show if you like the show if you thought it was good i thought it was great uh share the show for us

all right and if you're getting ready to start 75 hard tomorrow fucking commit don't do any of this shit where i'm gonna try it i'm gonna of that. No, the proper attitude is I'm going to fucking dominate the next 75 days. Like I've never dominated before. And I will finish this program, be able to look myself in the mirror, no matter what, even if I have to start over at day one, even if I have to start over at day one on day 74, I am going to finish this program the right way because that mentality is what's going to get you to where you want to go. And that timeframe of 75 days, like Josiah said, is so short and you can make such a massive difference in your life. You can't afford not to do it. All right. Love you guys. I appreciate you guys. And I'll talk to you next time.