REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 270. American Revival Part 1 Ft. Eric Greitens

Episode Date: April 6, 2022

In today's episode, Andy and the crew are joined in the studio by former Missouri Governor and Senatorial Candidate Eric Greitens. They discuss what most Americans are concerned about in today's socie...ty, including the government's massive theft when dealing with taxpayers' money, the federal legality of marijuana, and the corruption in the health care system.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realest say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society. Welcome to motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have one of the four episodes. Okay? So we do full-length episodes here, which is what we're going to do today. Sometimes when you come on, we're going to do real talk, which is basically where I call you out on all your bullshit. Sometimes we do CTI, which is Cruise the Internet, where DJ and I make fun of the entire world and then um call the world out on their bullshit yeah and then we have q and af where i try to help you guys know like
Starting point is 00:00:50 we've got a little bit of like identify the problem and solve the problem that's what we're doing over here so this is your first time listening we do have a fee for the show i'm not going to sell you anything i'm not going to run ads halfway through the show uh you know i can make eight figures running ads on the show in your ears, and I would never have to listen to them. But I don't do that to you because it's annoying as fuck when I listen to other people. So in lieu of that sort of income for me, I would ask for some word of mouth income. If you like the show that makes you laugh, that makes you think, that taught you something, or if you just want to support your buddy andy talk about the show all right now we do have a very special guest today and uh it's definitely not dj yeah all right so what's up dj
Starting point is 00:01:34 what's up we got dr sal what's going on everybody i thought i was a special guest i i know you thought you were well i think they think now we did yeah oh do they i'm just saying you know all right the inbox gets hot oh yeah my favorite shows when you're on the show so i'm gonna i'm gonna start tagging you in all of them i already know that i don't know instagram i already know that but the thing is if you're on the show all the time then you they wouldn't just see your highlight reel they know you were like a dumbass that's a good point yeah it's a good point or extremely funny yeah but if they saw me on youtube they know i'm extremely handsome well you know it's kind of like you know and on youtube i can't disagree with that i got some deodorant on me today so
Starting point is 00:02:15 yeah it is what it is can't be perfect all the time i mean hell it's hard but somebody's gotta do it and we have a very special guest for you, former governor of Missouri, United States Senate candidate, and future senator, and future a lot of things, and a good friend of mine, Eric Reitens. What's up, buddy? What's going on, man? How are you? Good.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It's good to be on here with you, Sal, DJ. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah. It's really cool, man. It's good to have you here. Yeah, thanks, man. So, guys, I wanted to bring Eric on because, as you know, I've brought on a couple other people that I believe in
Starting point is 00:02:49 and who I think have good solutions and good answers for the country. And we're going to talk about those today. So what I would like to talk about is just, you know, like, Eric, you know, like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Now, Eric and I have a lot of conversations about this. So this could very well go on for a week.
Starting point is 00:03:07 We're going to try to keep it consumable size for you all. But man, it's really good. We can come back if we need to. We can do versions two and three and four if people are digging it. Build a bigger studio. You'd be a full-time guest. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You know, one thing about Eric and I as friends that I really appreciate, and I want to say this to your face, is we don't actually agree on every single right right right we we have healthy debates and we're great friends afterwards yes and it you know it's the way it really should be i was supposed to be yeah and and i think you know for i was thinking about this on the drive in this morning you know everybody's going to the extremes like the extreme left or the extreme right and if you don't agree with you know one or the other you're the extreme other and the truth is if you don't agree with all of it yeah you're you know if you don't agree with the full left
Starting point is 00:03:55 agenda you're an extremist right if you don't agree with the far right agenda which i don't know i don't even know what the fuck that is yeah Yeah. Uh, but you're a redneck from Missouri with a podcast. Uh, but you know, the truth of the matter is, man, most of the country, uh,
Starting point is 00:04:12 is regular people. They're just regular people, man. They want to, they want to, I mean, I see you out all over, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Eric's all over the country talking to people all the time. Um, the one thing that Eric and I do have in common is that, do we are strong freedom first people and America first people? You know, it's actually, there's a really interesting thing I was thinking about on the drive-in. One of the reasons for that, like, so when I'm out, one of the things that always happens is people come up to me and the question they ask is like, how is it that, and usually they say the left, how is it that the left is so stupid? No, and it's a real question. They say, how is it that they look at defunding the police, they see the thousands of murders that have increased, and they don't know that it's happening?
Starting point is 00:04:59 How is it that they look at the open border and they see everything that's happening and they ask themselves these questions. And part of the reason is that the difference between real people and the people who talk about and engage in politics is that real people do real things. They do things with their hands. And so here's what happens. When you're solving a real problem, it has a reality. Okay. If you and I are working on an engine, right engine and you say to me, hey man, I think it's the spark plugs. I can't say, dude, you're a racist. I have to say, I have to say, you know what, actually, I already checked that. I think they're working. Maybe it's the fuel line, whatever, but you have to solve a problem that has a reality. One of the problems in our society right now is that so many, especially on the left, so
Starting point is 00:05:46 many of the people who are always talking about politics, everything exists for them in their heads. And it's why you see things coming out of their mouth, things that they say that seem complete madness, and they're completely detached from reality. And it's also why I always found, whether I was a Navy SEAL doing humanitarian work in government, if I was working with people who really cared about a problem, you could work together. It did not matter what their background was, if you disagreed on philosophy or politics
Starting point is 00:06:18 or whatever. If they were dealing with the reality of the problem in front of you, you could say, okay, cool. Well, let's work on, let's figure out what does help homeless veterans? What does help kids in school? If you ask a real problem about the reality, you can deal with it. Right now, we literally have a political class that is detached from reality. Dude, I was noticing that exact same thing. I think you, were you and I i don't know i was talking about with mike yesterday at the house um the the sacramento shooting right did you see that i
Starting point is 00:06:52 did i didn't there was a there was a mass shooting six people got killed uh a big team injured yeah and sacramento on sunday like saturday night sunday morning big fight. People brought out guns, started shooting shit. And the next day, you know, the MSM is on record. You know, they're on TV saying, gun laws! Biden's out. Gun laws! Gun laws! Gun laws! And that's a perfect example of this. They're not even asking the question,
Starting point is 00:07:19 would these laws have prevented this from happening? And the answer is no. And that's a constant... To me, it feels like, dude, and I don't know what you think about this. I don't know if we talked about this or not, but I can't remember. But like, dude, it almost feels like they're using technology and the media and all of these things to prop these people up to make them seem like they're far more powerful than they really are yes the people on the left extremist right we're bending over backwards for all these crazy you know moralist viewpoints um that are quite frankly un-american uh you know let's just
Starting point is 00:08:01 be real and they're amplifying by the use of technology, the actual resistance that regular Americans who have common sense face. Because the truth is, dude, and you've done this a lot more than me, but even when I go, like I told you how I went to California. Right. And I spoke. And everybody was with the message. Right. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And you were there. It was mainly Latino crowd. Yeah. Okay. And they were crazy about like the american values and and the pro freedom pro freedom talk and like they understand capitalism they understand how crazy this shit is and bro anywhere i've actually gone in real life the people that show up that are with this line of thinking are not only in very small numbers
Starting point is 00:08:42 but like you can physically look at them and say, dude, these people are fucking whack jobs. And what's also clear, and this is the really deep point that so many times conservatives and patriots miss, what's also clear is how cruel they are. Because if you really care about people, then you care about the results that you're getting for them. If you really care about people, then you'd ask the question, would a change in laws actually help? If you really care about people, you'd ask yourself, does this policy actually work? And one of the things that I found, and I found this actually early in my life, this was before I was in the SEAL teams, I was doing humanitarian work overseas. So I worked in Bosnian refugee camps. I worked in
Starting point is 00:09:22 Rwandan refugee camps. I worked with kids in Cambodia who lost limbs to landmines. And what you found was that a lot of times the policies that sounded good, we're going to create a center for orphaned children. We're going to do X. We're going to do Y. Didn't actually work. I found the same thing when I was working with veterans after I was hit by a suicide truck bomb and I started the Mission Continues.
Starting point is 00:09:44 There's all this language around like, well, we're going to help these guys and we're going to make sure that they get this charitable program. We're going to make sure that they get lots of disability pay. We're going to make sure that they get the right drugs. But if you really care about people, you have to, again, look at the reality. Do these programs work? Do they actually work? And what you're seeing there and you're pointing out, and it's why people feel like the whole discourse in the country is off, is that it's clear the people who are talking don't really care. If you really love people, then you're going to dig in and you're going to figure out what works. And you also realize that what works here might not
Starting point is 00:10:22 work there. What works for this person might not work for that person. And you really dig in. And that's part of why people are so upset with all of politics is that it's clear most of the people, most of the elected officials, and this is true in both parties, right? Most of the elected officials and a lot of the people we're talking, they don't really care. No, it's about self-preservation, building a career and furthering their establishment benefits or their ability to funnel money into their little, what Jordan Belfort would call a rat hole. That's what it is. And that's the message that I've been on forever now is like, dude, we need some real people. We need some real people who actually
Starting point is 00:11:05 have real experience, who have gone real places, done real things. And you've done that. Most of these people that I see in office right now, and I think from my point of view, the biggest problem that we have in America is that we have people who have been in for a long time. They've established, listen listen they've established true fascist relationships okay which means they're taking corporate money and and the the government branch and the corporation branch are uniting together to form a certain level of tyranny against the people and that's what's been happening and it's and and we have a bunch of people in our government right now who care way more about themselves we have our government right now who care way more about themselves.
Starting point is 00:11:46 We have a president right now who cares way more about himself and his family's wealth than the betterment and success of the average person in America. That's real. That's real. Well, let's get into this. So did you guys see that Hungary's president got elected? Oh, I didn't see. Yeah, he was an anti-Soros guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I know Soros is your buddy. He was driving. He was driving a lot of the globalists nuts, especially in Europe. And there was this huge attack, really global attack against him. He won big yesterday. Did you see that? I did not see that. Oh, dude, he won like it was a major landslide.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Huge news. Everybody's pissed yeah like yeah all our friends right right they're mad right all right all right yeah so we got a survey came out right and we're gonna pull up the top pressing issues facing america and how we fix them okay um and so there's 11 topics now we just open conversation talk about them dig into them but i think first we got to do a little honorable mention these are uh topics uh that did not make the list so hold on there's no such thing as honorable mention bro there is first place you'll like this honorable mention that's it certain things that didn't make the list racism did not make the list so these this was a survey
Starting point is 00:12:56 of american citizens and what they actually care about what they actually cared about so this honorable mention is things that didn't make it okay Okay, so racism. Sure, DJ, I know you get accused of being a racist all the time. So, I mean, I think that. I think I should actually remind my angel. DJ, the most racist guy in the room. That's me.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Let's be honest. But other things. And if you only knew. Yeah, if you only knew. You know what I'm saying? But other things they didn't care about, the blue or gold dress,
Starting point is 00:13:22 didn't make it. Immigration did not make the list, surprisingly. That's surprising me. That's a major issue. It's a major issue. Nancy Pelosi didn't make the list. That's because she's going to die.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Will Smith smack did not make the list. And then it's Kyler Kaepernick, white or black, did not make the list. So let's get on with the real list then. Kyler Kaepernick has cool hair. I'll just leave it at that. All right. We'll just leave it right there. That's real.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I wish I had that flow. That's real. All right. We'll just leave it right there. That's real. I wish I had that flow. That's real. All right. So we're going to go ahead and start this list off. We're going from, from, uh, bottom up essentially.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So number 11, this is the 11th most concerning topic, pressing, uh, uh, Americans taxation. Okay. So this is number 11.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Okay. You guys know the, the, the federal tax rates. These are just some of the rates here. Andy, you know, you get fucking slammed. Yeah. Okay, you guys know the federal tax rates. These are just some of the rates here. Andy, you know you get fucking slammed. Yeah. No lube.
Starting point is 00:14:10 No lube ever. How do we fix it? Where are we at on taxes? I think people, the majority consensus is that we are giving tax way too much. Okay? 2021, it was $4 trillion in taxes, federal taxes that was taken from the American citizens. And we're spending about $6 trillion on average per year. What's the solution? So I think one of the things you have to look at and remember that's very important when you
Starting point is 00:14:36 think about this is the massive theft that is happening inside the government, the massive theft, and specifically, a lot of it is legalized theft. One of the reasons why I was attacked as governor was because I went and I zeroed out these completely corrupt tax credit programs. I'll give you just one Missouri example. In Missouri, they have something called the low-income housing tax credit, and they always do this. Sounds nice, a low-income housing tax credit. Who could be opposed to that? Well, what that means is every year, about $150 million of taxpayer money, taxes paid by the people of Missouri, is given away to people in this tax credit program. And you go back audit after audit over the course of a decade showed that only about 42 cents of every dollar actually went to anything close to low income housing. So you do the quick math over the last, just the last 10 years, $1.5 billion, 58%, $750 million that's being stolen and given away to insiders. And then to understand how the scheme
Starting point is 00:15:47 works, because it happens in the same way in the federal government, what the low-income housing tax credit guys do, they then turn around and take that taxpayer money, that $750 million, and they give out lots of political donations. Okay. So now they're paying off all of the politicians. So what do the politicians do? They keep the low-income housing tax credit program going. And what happens? The politicians, fat and happy. All of the insiders, fat and happy. And everybody who's listening to this right now, who's working, you're paying for it. And it is a complete scam. And that's just one. That's one small example. And it happens again and again and again.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And at the federal level, what happens is these big companies hire lobbyists. Those lobbyists go in and they write things into an extraordinarily complicated tax code, which creates special bonuses, incentives, giveaways for massive companies that then turn around and take those gains and use them to give donations to politicians. So what's happened is the entire system is broken. It's not just about what level of taxation, and obviously it's too high, but the fact is it is such a rigged and unfair system. And where you need to get to is to get all of the unfairness out and make it incredibly simple. Right now, the tax code is so massive. It's literally-
Starting point is 00:17:18 That's intentional, by the way. And that is intentional. They intentionally make it complicated. They intentionally make it hard for people to comply with. And they put all of these special bonuses in there, all, they called it an infrastructure bill. And you ask anybody who's listening right now, what's infrastructure? It's a road, it's a bridge, it's a port. Those things are infrastructure. The Green New Deal, that ain't infrastructure, but they take your money and they spend it on things like that and then tax you more while all of their friends get off. Yeah. And those people that get the money, this is a whole nother way they make money here, guys. They own stock in the people's companies that are getting the money on top of it. So their companies, they're getting money directly. Their friends are getting rich and doing better.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And then they're getting paid again off the stock increase that they own in these companies. Okay. And so it's not, I'm explaining this because it's very important that regular people understand that not only are we being taxed too much money, but it's being scammed to look as if we're trying to fix problems and we're doing the good thing and we're good people and we care when in reality they have a spending problem. We have a collection problem and we have a no interest in the people problem you know the reason this country is so far technologically behind some of these other countries which in case you haven't understood yet we are um is because these people are continuing to steal our money yes and back in
Starting point is 00:19:19 you know back in the old days people are throwing tea in the Harbor for 3% tax. Yes. You know, all said and done in California, you know, these dudes are paying in the 60 percentile. That means they're working for 60% of the year for the government. You're a government employee,
Starting point is 00:19:36 bro. Yeah. Like you, you're not an entrepreneur. You're not a business owner. You're working for the government Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday. And then you get to work for yourself on Thursday and Friday.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And then on the weekends, we won't. And these systems over time collapse. Yeah. These systems over time collapse. There's a couple of ways to look at it. Throwing money at that issue doesn't solve that issue. If you take somebody who makes, and we do, we have lots of young people who work here and teaching them fiscal responsibility is one of our roles, which is why we do. We have lots of young people who work here and teaching them fiscal responsibility is
Starting point is 00:20:05 one of our roles, which is why we do a very good job of keeping young people because we teach them things that the world does not. If you have a spending problem, when you make more money, you just increase the spending issue. And so in this particular environment, no amount of money that we continue to throw at that problem is going to fix itself. Well, also, bro, that when they come at you and they like Biden's right now saying, hey, we're going to tax unrealized gains. We're going to tax this. We're going to when they raise the tax, there is the average person does not understand
Starting point is 00:20:35 there is zero intention of that benefit coming to you. Like there's not it's not like, oh, we screwed up or this or that. It's an inside game that we're all in on. And we're saying, hey, you know what? 32% is not enough. I'm going to bump you up to that 35%, right? And then I'm just going to take that money myself. Well, I think there's, sorry, the way to fix that too,
Starting point is 00:20:58 and going back to Eric's point, where there's mystery, there's margin. Whenever the deal is too confusing, it's hard to figure out, they're hiding money. That's the whole game. In the sales process, that's the goal. When a deal comes to you and it's way too fucking complicated, they're just trying to hide money. That's the whole- Is that the whole print on the commercial? No, that's it. It's the whole yin and yang of that situation. But in my opinion, I love fiscal structure and you start looking at it. You could make a flat tax on the front end and a consumable tax on the back end. And then we base it off of that. It's, hey,
Starting point is 00:21:32 we all pay this on what we make, no matter what it is. The more you make, the more they actually get paid. And if you want to spend that money on stupid shit, well, that's your choice because we're going to increase the tax across the board based off those things. Now, these are things that people who make $50,000 a year probably could not afford. We're going to increase that tax. And now you have a judgment to make based off what you want to buy. It's a consumable tax. And to go even deeper, the big problem in almost all political discourse is that politicians and insiders talk about how much money they're spending.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So they'll say, we're going to spend $200 this year or $200 million this year or $1 trillion this year. In the real world, what people are interested in are results. What are you getting for the money that you are spending? And you look back over the course of American history, what did we get for the war on poverty? How big of a reduction did we get? It didn't work. So people ask themselves, and they should be asking, the question that politicians love to talk about is, well, we're going to spend more on X. Okay. The question that they should be asking is what results did you get for the money you already spent? That's the question. Well, unless they spend all of the money, they don't get the budget increase. Right. You know what I mean? So it's a catch 22 there.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Now they have to go out and frivolously spend it at the end of the year on whatever they can so that they make sure that they get their extra 12% next year. Dude, it's like George Carlin said, man, it's a big club and you ain't in it. Yeah. And that's it. And. And like that has to change. Yes. You know, for our, I argue all the time, you and I have talked about this many times. It's not our government model that's messed up. What it is, is it's the people that are in the model.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Correct. It's the moral structure. Yeah. And they're all covering for each other. They all come out. Dude, I explain, here's how I explain it to the average person. When you, you'll learn this one day, when you have someone sue you or you decide you're going to sue someone, um, you're going to go to an attorney and you're going to say, Hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:34 I want to sue this guy. And he's going to go, okay, we'll, we'll do that. It's awesome. We're fucking soon. Let's get them. And they get you all hyped, right? And they call up the other guy's attorney and say, Hey, I got this guy here. He's really hungry to sue this guy oh yeah yeah let's how about we go out and let's let's have a round of golf we'll talk about it see what we can do okay they go out on the golf course right and they say all right i don't think my guy's gonna quit and uh until he gets what he wants like but i think i'd get him to go for this another guy says well let's we could probably do this but let's you know let's drag it on let's keep it going like and they start acting in their own interests okay and this is what attorneys do and this is why and guess who's in the legislature they're mostly mostly attorneys yeah so this is
Starting point is 00:24:21 common practice for them to do that yeah right. Right? And you have this, you have an experience with this. You're exactly right. Because what happens is, and I've always talked about this. If you want to identify somebody who's going to become a sellout in office, it's very, very clear. You ask yourself, is this office they're going to be in the most impressive thing they've ever done in their life? And here's why.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Because if they get it, then they don't want to lose it. They're not there to serve other people. If somebody comes into office and they've got an incredible background, they built a great business, they were a fantastic teacher, they were a great architect, they did something. If they come into government because they want to accomplish something that's very different than someone who wants to be a government official. And so then they get in and then what happens is all, and you see it, it's disgusting. All of the lobbyists descend on them the minute that they get elected and they start working them and they tell them, well, we can get you money for your reelection
Starting point is 00:25:19 here. We can do this. Well, don't say that because that's going to get you in trouble, et cetera, et cetera. And what they do is the people who don't want to lose the office are the ones who become sellouts, which is why you need to have back in those days, you think about George Washington, you think about Thomas Jefferson, you think about Alexander Hamilton, you think about Benjamin Franklin, you think about Sam Adams, you think about all of these people who were part of the revolution, they were incredibly capable people who had achieved things outside of government. So when they said, we're going to put our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor on the line, they were putting something on the line. Today, you have all of these people who are running for
Starting point is 00:26:03 office or who are in office, and this is the most important thing they've ever done. They're part of that club, and that's why they're there, and that's why they don't take any risks to change things. Sure or not true, if we eliminated lobbying, we'd eliminate at least 80% of the problems. Yeah, it's a huge piece. It's a huge- We have no tax issue in that regard. We wouldn't have the corruption at scale. They're a huge part of the corruption. And one of the ways you could do it, and this is one of the things.
Starting point is 00:26:29 So one of the reasons why I was always hated by the lobbyists was that the first day I was governor, the first day I signed an executive order that said anyone who worked for me could never turn around and lobby me. Okay, because this is how the whole government structure works. You've got guys who are in Senate offices or who are senators in congressional offices who are congressmen. And what do they do? They work for a while on the elected side, and then they know they're going to leave and go get paid by the lobbyists. So who do you think they're serving when they're in office?
Starting point is 00:27:03 And it's a very simple rule, which is that if you've been in office, you cannot become a lobbyist. And the rule I proposed was that you cannot be a lobbyist for as many years as you served. Okay. You serve for one year, then cool. You can't become a lobbyist for a year. But if you've been a career politician and you've served for 20 years, then you can't become a lobbyist for 20 years. If you've worked in Congress for years, then you can't become a lobbyist for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:27:25 If you've worked in Congress for five years, you can't become a lobbyist for five years. And when I said this, and when I also said, we're going to ban all lobbyist gifts, they went crazy. Absolute crazy. So what you do, yeah, look, and we did when I was going to, we banned all lobbyist gifts to the executive branch. And the minute I was gone, you know what they said? Well, we'll take lobbyist gifts to the executive branch. And the minute I was gone, you know what they said? Well, we'll take lobbyist gifts again.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They do. This is, it's difficult for people to understand and it's difficult to overstate how incredibly corrupt the whole system is. How corrupt and how cowardly. Tremendous corruption, tremendous cowardice. And you're exactly right, Sal. If you said you cannot leave to become a lobbyist,
Starting point is 00:28:08 well, then that ends their gravy train. The whole run. Right. All right. That was only 11. We got a lot. We chose 11. You should have said five or four.
Starting point is 00:28:19 My vote is 15% tax. Make everybody pay the tax. I don't care if you make $1 or if you make a trillion dollars. I'm with that. No expenses. Dude, I just think that's how it should be. That's my vote.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I'm with it. I'd vote for that. Yeah. Well, the truth of that situation without getting to point 10 is we would probably generate more revenue. No, we would. Not only that, do you know how much more successful businesses would be? The whole idea of how they tax businesses is, well, it's based on this.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Business owners are greedy and they take all the money themselves, so we got to take it from them. That's their fucking thing. When in reality, okay, I agree. Some business owners are greedy. They want more money and they know how to get more money. You know how you get more money? By hiring more people and growing your company.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And guess what that does? That creates jobs. It creates communities. It contributes to all kinds of good shit. And a business person's greed is actually a good thing in most cases because it requires them to serve other people to get where they want to go. Exactly. But what they don't do, look, look, man, is what it
Starting point is 00:29:27 comes down. Do you trust politicians to do the right thing? Or do you trust business owners to create jobs in their own interests and have people? I mean, what would you rather have? I mean, now my brain's spinning that we could, we could fiscally fix the whole goddamn thing in about four, 90 minutes here. Look at student loan debt. Like if you just said, pass it onto a company and said, Hey, listen, you can hire it. You have to relieve their debt by getting a tax incentive to do it. We could relieve the employee's debt after X amount of years. We'll pay for it. The government will get their money back.
Starting point is 00:29:52 The employer will get the tax incentive. The student would get relieved of the debt and everybody wins. They would never touch that. Don't you think that the amount like, isn't it weird that they give unlimited amounts of student loans to 18 18-year-old kids? Yeah. And don't you think it's weird that, why wouldn't they make the amount of student loan relative to the actual pay scale of the degree that you want to get?
Starting point is 00:30:13 If you really wanted to change things, you wanted to throw it in radically. Now, let's keep in mind for student loan debt, it's the only debt you can never get rid of. Yeah. And it shackles young people. That's what they want to do. Yes. They are shackled. You get kids who are graduating with degrees in recreation management who have $80,000
Starting point is 00:30:35 in school debt. So here's the way you turn this around. If the university truly believes that they're adding value to the student, if they're saying, we're taking you at 18 and we're going to make you this much more valuable by the time you're 22, then you know what? The way that we will take our pay is that we'll take X percent of your income for the first five years after you graduate. Because we've made you into an incredible engineer. We've made you into a fantastic chemist. We've done this thing.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But instead, again, you have this collusion of powerful interests, including the higher ed lobby, everyone who's in government, and who loses? Regular people. Right here in the state of Missouri also, okay? You think about a vocational education. We've got places here where kids can go and they can spend $5,000 a year, right? For a couple of years, they can graduate with a fantastic vocational degree. They can go out and immediately they're making more money. And 10 years later, they're making more money than kids who are graduating from four-year universities. You know what's great about that too, bro? Is that for the last 20 so years, they've kind of, like society has been like, oh, technology, technology, technology.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Dude, you're still going to need people to do construction. You're still going to need people to weld. You're still going to need people to do everything with your hands, everything that has to be done here with your hands. Think about this. All that pay, that pay scale is going to go way up because there's so few people pursuing that now that the people who have those skills are making way more money. We talk about this all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Like if I was a young man right now and I wasn't sure what I was going to do, I would at least use the time to go get a skill like was because we always had a middle class of people, farmers and artisans who were their own boss. Okay. If we have a nation of people who are their own boss, that is the ingredients for having a free country. And it's freedom. You know what I mean? Because it's driven in principle. Yes. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Point number 10. Here's the other. Yeah, bro. We can spend another 90 minutes on this. Why don't you just pick the best ones? All right, make up. I trust you. Taxes are fine.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I'm just saying, we got some good ones, guys. There's a lot of fucking issues. 10 is Andy's favorite. Marijuana. I don't know if it's my favorite but it's it's it's not my least favorite so marijuana marijuana is a big one right marijuana is a big one right now uh as of april 2022 we have 37 states that have legalized the medicinal use of cannabis. And right now there's roughly about 18 states that have legalized the recreational use of marijuana,
Starting point is 00:33:49 but it's still a big fight on the federal level. The bill just passed in the House of Representatives, moving to the Senate, they'll probably be thrown down. But what's the take on marijuana? Yeah, I mean, there's, you know, I actually haven't been thinking about marijuana a lot recently. I mean, I've been thinking about Afghanistan and the border and others. I will tell
Starting point is 00:34:10 you this though. Here's, here's one thing that you have to be very thoughtful about is that, and it doesn't get enough attention is that marijuana clearly also has lots of negative effects for young people until the prefrontal cortex is fully developed. Okay? And that's 100% clear. What this is, especially, so in young men and young women, especially for young men, the age is about 25 until your prefrontal cortex is fully developed, right?
Starting point is 00:34:39 And there is, as you said, lots of evidence to suggest that marijuana use has a very negative and permanent influence. That's fact. Dr. Amen talks about that all the time. And so we have to recognize, again, that anytime you get big corporations involved in anything, they will also push things to profit from people, even if it's not healthy for them. Yeah, cigarettes are good. Right? So you find places now where they're selling marijuana ring pops.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Who's using marijuana ring pops? No, it's the same thing as Joe Camel back in the day. Right, right, right, right. And so I think- They're marketing to their future audience. Yes. And I think it's very, very important that we be very cognizant of the damage
Starting point is 00:35:38 that can be done to people. And we also have to have a rational system if this is going to be legal then it can't be a cash business where all of these dudes can't like put money in the bank it doesn't make it doesn't make sense uh for i think the biggest i think the biggest the biggest issue i see with with the marijuana use is that for the last 40 years um a lot of people have been uh criminalized uh done massive amounts of jail time for weed use well people are doing more jail time for weed use than they are for violent yeah and so so that we're if we're gonna do that we gotta we gotta we gotta somehow take care of those people these people that have been stained or you know permanently especially
Starting point is 00:36:21 especially when you have now a situation where you have George Soros-funded prosecutors around the country who won't prosecute murderers. They won't prosecute people involved in arson. They won't prosecute people who are involved in assaults. It is massively unjust. People that carjack police officers. Yeah, and very big picture.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I mean, what this points to also, if you take a step back and you think about historically where we're at, one of the real threats to the United States of America right now is that people don't trust in the justice system. Now, any justice system is built by human beings, which means that any justice system is imperfect. And we've had lots of terrible things happen. Plessy versus Ferguson, which said that people were unequal happened right here in the state of Missouri. Okay, right. That's happened historically.
Starting point is 00:37:08 We have to recognize that. But there had always been in the United States a sense that we were moving towards justice. What's happened now is that justice has been blatantly politicized, blatantly politicized so that certain people with certain political beliefs are very
Starting point is 00:37:25 clearly targeted. And that is dangerous. People forget that one of the reasons why the Roman Republic fell was because they had had a corrupted justice system. And Julius Caesar was basically given a choice by a corrupt Senate. He could come back and he could face a corrupt prosecution, or he could bring his armies. And you know what he decided? He was going to bring his armies. And that was the end of the Roman Republic. When the very basis of the United States of America is that people are going to be treated equally before the law. And now because of what's happened with Soros funded prosecutors, because of political prosecutions, because of things like this, it seemed completely unjust. That trust in that idea has been rapidly deteriorating.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And this is what also is really scary. When people don't believe that the law is fair, when they don't believe that the law can protect them, they will find other ways to protect themselves. Oh yeah, that's real. Yeah, for sure. I agree with you on the marijuana thing. That's a difficult road to cross coming from someone who is in the cannabis business and who enjoys marijuana. And in fact, Sal can attest to this, I am a lot better human without alcohol and with marijuana. And, and I have a personal belief that the reason that alcohol has been allowed and pushed and put into our culture for the last, however many years, uh, the way that it's society is sort of built around the consumption of alcohol. And, um, you know, I, I, after I see all the corruption that's going on, I have to ask, like, myself, you know, why do they push alcohol?
Starting point is 00:39:09 Why do they allow alcohol? Why do they build culture around alcohol and then not legalize this over here when it's actually something that comes from the earth? It's natural. It definitely does not cause the same issues that alcohol does, but then it also does affect younger people much differently. You know, for me, for all you young guys listening, I did not smoke weed during those years of my life. Okay. Um, occasionally, you know, experimenting high school stuff, but you know, now I'm a much more regular marijuana user and I waited until I was older and when I was established and
Starting point is 00:39:45 I've gotten my shit together, so to speak, because at the time I'm competing and trying to make sure I get to a certain place in life. You know, when they're making ring pop edibles, that's not, that's not a morally good thing, man. You know, I see that as no different than when we were growing up, you know, the cartoons they used to have around cigarettes. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was, and there was this, this, this push. And I think that we, what we have to do with all of these things is just be to recognize that any policy, right. It's going to have benefits and drawbacks and you have to be very clear and very
Starting point is 00:40:25 honest especially when it when it can potentially hurt kids yeah and so let's let's if we're going to do this then let's build a system that's going to minimize the harm that's going to be done for sure for sure well i will do my best to speed the number nine is just health care but um yeah we want a number eight can we just say on the healthcare thing though? Because I think this is incredibly important. Two things on this. One is that we do not have a healthcare system in America. We have a disease profit system. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And it's very important for people to understand this. And again, no one who's running for office is willing to say things like this. Why? Because there's a huge healthcare industry that dumps tens of millions of dollars into campaigns and keeps it there and profits from it. And you ask yourself, does the disease profit system make money off of you if you are completely healthy during a year? The answer is no. Do they make money off of you when you are sick? The answer is yes. Now, again, this is not to,
Starting point is 00:41:26 we have incredible doctors and nurses and all these folks who are there to help people and to make them healthier, and they do. But the system as it exists in the United States of America, with the collusion between government and the healthcare industries, their interest is in their profit, not in your health. And the reason why you know that's the case is that you ask yourself, there are some very basic things that we know about human health that simply aren't addressed. Things like fasting, things like how people breathe, how people walk, exercise, the quality of the food that they eat, all of these things are essential
Starting point is 00:42:05 to addressing the chronic conditions which affect tens of millions of Americans, and they're not part of the healthcare conversation because it's not a healthcare conversation. It's a discussion that's really driven by the disease profit system in America. And anyway, you can see when I talk about things like this, why I'm so unpopular with all of the lobbyists, because what we have to expose, we have to, again, if you really care about people, you have to say like, what's really at stake? And finally, one of the things that's also really important to recognize here is that we are and have increasingly become a very unhealthy country. So you ask yourself, you look at everything that's happening right now in the world. Well, you know, I think it was Schopenhauer said like 90% of health, 90% of happiness is health. When people are healthy, they are happier. And you look around the United States of America right now, and what do you see? Lots and lots and lots of incredibly unhappy people. A lot of that
Starting point is 00:43:06 has to do with the fact that we aren't healthy. Imagine this. Do a thought experiment. Imagine if every man in America, every man in America right now, and every man from age 15 to 62, could put on a 25-pound pack and do a 10-, 10 mile rock. Okay. So there's a super, super basic soldiering skill, super basic, you know, testament to health. Can you put on 25 pounds and walk 10 miles? Okay. Imagine, just think about the different kind of country you'd have if every man in America was that healthy. Yeah. Okay. Think about the sense of vitality. Think about the sense of energy. Think about how people would talk about- Think about the sense of self-worth these people would have. Self-worth. Yes. I'm capable. I can do things. I can change things.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And let's also look, again, government policy. Okay. You look back at the 1970s, all right? And I don't want to go super, we could go crazy deep on this, right? The green revolution, et cetera, where they started to use all these fertilizers and chemicals in food, et cetera. But my point is what the disease profit industry would have you believe was that in the 1970s, suddenly there was a massive collapse in the will of Americans, that the reason why people are fat and the reason why people are will of Americans that the reason why people are fat and the reason why people are out of shape and the reason why there's all of these chronic conditions is just because people make bad decisions.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Okay. Or you can say, actually, you look back at what happened in agriculture when the government, the government pushed the food pyramid. The government pushed the food pyramid, which said, hey, stop eating all of that meat. Stop eating all of that protein. What we want you to do is eat all of these grains, et cetera. There's dairy. Yes. And you look back at the explosion in chronic conditions, a lot of it was tied to government policy, which again, in a lot of that government policy was tied to industry policy.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And take a look back at pictures of people on a beach in 1970 in the United States of America. And then you ask yourself, okay, is the difference between 1970 and 2020, was the difference over the course of those 50 years was suddenly that the American character changed and suddenly everybody got incredibly lazy or did it actually have to do with something that was fundamental to the food that we were eating and the system that the healthcare slash disease profit system that we're a part of? Yeah. And that was super obvious during COVID too. If you want real life example to remember. Remember how much they talked about, you know 80 80 what was it 85 percent of covid deaths were obese
Starting point is 00:45:49 and they did not say one thing about eating healthy they didn't say one thing about exercise they shut down gyms dude they shut down not only do they do that they if you said on social media hey if and this is statistically fucking true if If you are not obese, your rate of dying from COVID goes way down. And you actually said the data on Instagram, they will take the shit off of Instagram. They were forcing people to stay inside and not go to the gym. Okay. You need vitamin D, you get outside, you you exercise all of those things make for a much healthier society and much healthier people i mean i think you could look at any of these topics we're going to talk about and if you follow the money train on where it goes you're probably going
Starting point is 00:46:35 to find the the problem in which it exists where the lobbying sits you know we we live in the health and wellness industry yeah it's what we do every day well yeah and how hard do they make it to get people healthy well they make it fucking hard there's no profit in the education yeah of of wellness see that's the that's taking the paying customers that's right well they don't understand like there's you know there's no profit in the education so again where there's mysteries margin they don't know then they don't know what they don't know so they don't there's no accountability right and that's the biggest thing is you know when you talk about you know we've changed hundreds of thousands of people's lives at this point. You know, what, what happens?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Well, they lose weight, gain their life back, get off their medications. They're able to go, you know what I mean? Like their lives increasingly become better. They're not as. Yeah. You know what they did? You know what they did? You know what they do to counteract that?
Starting point is 00:47:20 They create a pro fat movement. They create a, they listen, this is a two-prong approach yeah they're messing with the food but look at what they put on tv look at the message they send out look at that look at this now they're trying to shame people for being fit okay or you're just fat phobic yeah oh fat yeah you're fucking right i am i don't want to be i'm almost 350 fucking pounds uh i am definitely fat phobic and if you don't like it then i don't fucking care like it is what it is but the point is is that they put this shit down through you know dude it's fine it's a constant attack on the one regular people yes and again what it comes back to
Starting point is 00:47:58 fundamentally what it comes back to fundamentally is cruelty on their part it's a lack of compassion they don't look at us bro bro, like we're people. Right. If you love someone, if you love someone, then you know what? You want them to be healthier. If you love somebody, you want them to be happier. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And they don't care. That left has figured out that people really care about what you just said, because people do care about people. And these people on the left, a lot of them are just really good people that haven't dug into what's actually going on. They actually have a lot of empathy for other people and they ride their moral high horse on that empathy. I was born and raised,
Starting point is 00:48:34 and I was a Democrat for a very simple reason when I was born and raised because I was told when I was young that Democrats are the ones who care about people. I thought, well, I care about people. I'm a Democrat. Now, all of that- I was so, because I was black, I was-
Starting point is 00:48:46 Same thing, I got you. Yeah, yeah. But look, and then you wake up and you realize, and again, for me, it was doing the humanitarian work. It was seeing what the VA was doing to my fellow veterans who'd been disabled, who was running a business. All of these things made me not initially necessarily, I wasn't political, not necessarily more conservative,
Starting point is 00:49:05 but it woke me up that, wait a second, they're saying one thing, but when you actually look at the facts, they don't really care. Well, I think you hit that point in the head. It's like with the Affordable Care Act, right? Was that what it was called? The same thing as Black Lives Matter. You get down with the affordable. Well, hell yeah. I mean, I want to help somebody. Obama Care, I love Obama. They make it sound good. That's right. They make it sound good, but then the low-income housing tax credits, et cetera. But then you actually look at, and you ask yourself, is this really helping people?
Starting point is 00:49:36 And then what they do, and then what they do, guys, is when you figure out what they're doing, they play like they're just made a mistake. Or they call you racist. Or they switch to another subject. Or they switch to another subject. Or they switch to another subject. Yeah. Yeah. It's not.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And I want you to really think about this. How evil do you have to be to intentionally make people unhealthy, sick, and dependent on your system for your own profit and grief. How evil does that have to be? Like, really think about that. Really think about it. And then, not only to do that, but to claim that you're actually the good guy for supporting it. That's what we're dealing with here.
Starting point is 00:50:19 We're dealing with lots of... And it's not left and right. It's establishment versus non-establishment. Well, I also think that we have to recognize the nature of the fight that we're in. I didn't use the word evil related to politics even six years ago. But I think I'm an incredibly rational person, and I look at what people are doing. I've been down to the border. And if we want to, we can talk about what's happened. The worst human trafficking operation in the world right now, aided and
Starting point is 00:50:49 abetted by Joe Biden and the Mexican drug gangs and cartels, the impact on violence, the impact on the economy, all of these things. And we could talk in detail about that. But you look at the open border, you look at the thousands of murders that have happened, historic rise in murders because of the defund the police movement. You look at the COVID tyranny, taking kids who are disabled and keeping them out of school for a year. You look at all of these things and you have to recognize this is cruelty. And it's not because they have a difference in political philosophy. The left is actively trying to destroy the country.
Starting point is 00:51:22 They're systematically dismantling. And I'll tell you one, just one, one super quick story. is actively trying to destroy the country. They're systematically dismantling it. And I'll tell you one, just one super quick story just to drive this home. People call me a conspiracy theorist all fucking day long because I say that all the time. This is intentional.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It is the only rational conclusion that you can come to. And I'll give you one super quick demonstration of this. All right. So I think you know this story. When I was governor, we defeated Black Lives Matter and Antifa when they came to Missouri. People remember before I was governor, Missouri was the home of the anti-police movement. Ferguson
Starting point is 00:51:56 happened here. That's where this all started. So when I was governor, we had an incident in the state of Missouri where a white man had killed a black man on duty and we had Black Lives Lives Matter, and Antifa came to Missouri, and they said, we're going to burn this place down. They said, we're going to make it worse than it even was during Ferguson. Now, long story short, we defeated them. We defeated them with compassion. We defeated them with clarity. We defeated them with courage. And very briefly, I said, look, as a Navy SEAL, I fought for everybody's constitutional rights. I said, everyone has the right to freedom of speech. Everyone has the right to protest. I said, no matter what happens when the verdict comes down, people are going to be upset. And I
Starting point is 00:52:34 said, if you were out peacefully protesting, you will find that the police are there to protect you. But I also said, throwing a brick through a window is not free speech. You assault a law enforcement officer, you're going to go to jail. And I said, in the past in Ferguson, you had people who said that they wanted to give people a safe space to loot and to burn. I said, if you loot and you burn when I'm governor, you're going to jail. That's it. All right. Super clear. We had the backs of our police officers. We supported them. We brought everybody together. We had a strategic operational and tactical plan for how we're going to communicate, how we're going to execute, how we're going to do this.
Starting point is 00:53:08 The long story short, after three days, we defeated BLM and Antifa and they left. They left after having broken a few windows and overturned some potted plants. So come back to Missouri and the difference between the common sense and courage of normal people and the evil that we see in the world. I told this story, I was on Tucker Carlson's show. This was in the summer of 2020. After the show, I come out and I'm sitting at Lindeland Grand, which is in St. Louis, Missouri. For people who know it, it's one of the four nicest corners in the city. You got the Powell Symphony Hall, you got the Fox Theater, St. Louis University, it's all right there. I'm sitting with my buddy and we hear 15 to 25 automatic gunshots go off.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Okay. Sounds just like Iraq, Afghanistan. I carry a pistol. I've got a med kit in my car. My buddy is a special operations firefighter medic. He's a much better medic than me, right? We jump in the car, in my car together. We drive about 50 yards up to the scene.
Starting point is 00:54:03 We're the first two guys there. At the scene, there are two young men who had been shot multiple times. And we start working on both of them. And unfortunately, both of those young men died that night. And these were good kids, 19, 20 years old, not a parking ticket between these two kids. Both of them died. And I went to see their families because their families obviously wanted to know what their brothers, what their sons last words were like. So I'm talking with them and the Bagsby family, for example, there's a young kid, Jason Bagsby, who's the brother of one of the kids who was shot and killed. And you know what he decides? He decides, you know what, man, I don't want this to happen to anybody else. And so he decides that he's going to become a St. Louis police officer. So he goes to the training command, training command. And as we're sitting here, he is out protecting the people of St. Louis as a police officer. That's the common sense and courage of good people. But here's the evil. The police worked on that case. They worked on it for a year. And what did they find? Eventually, they found the car that was used in the killing. They found the fingerprints of the killer in the car. Then they found the killer. He gave a videotaped confession
Starting point is 00:55:15 to every element of the crime and all of the elements of his confession matched all the videotaped evidence from the scene. They then took all of this information, the car, the fingerprints, the confession, the video evidence, they take it all to the George Soros funded prosecutor in the city of St. Louis. And you know what she says? Not going to prosecute. Now that my rational conclusion is like, that is not a difference in political philosophy. No. That is evil. When you decide that you're going to turn a murderer loose onto the streets, who's going to do the same thing again, that is evil. When you decide that you're going to turn a murderer loose onto the streets, who's going to do the same thing again, that is evil. So what does that mean? We have to
Starting point is 00:55:49 be clear about the nature of the enemy that we're facing. And we have to be clear about the threat, which also means that we have to be clear in ourselves about what the tools are that are going to get us out of this. And it's going to take a tremendous amount of courage and a tremendous amount of people all over the country stepping forward if we're going to take our country back. Because that is where the people who we are facing are actively trying, many of them, to destroy the country. It's pretty obvious. Yeah. I mean, at this point in time, if you're still hanging on to these people are just like not very smart, you might be running along with them, people.
Starting point is 00:56:29 What I've been saying to people, last thing I'll say on this is like, if you're on the sidelines, you're on the wrong side. Yeah, for sure. It's time. If you're listening to this and you're not involved, you're not engaged, you don't have to be in part of my campaign, but figure out, get involved in your school board. Do what is right for you to do, but get out, raise your voice and say, I'm going to be part of this. Because people say this a lot, but I've seen it. I saw it in Bosnia. I've seen it in Rwanda. We're seeing it now in the United States of America. The only thing that it takes for evil to succeed is good people to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And so there are far more of us or far more courageous people than there are these leftist bullies, but we have to, everybody who's listening right now, this is your mission. It's not just mine and Andy's and DJ's. This is your mission. This is your country. And you have to find a way to step up. And one of the things I always said to the wounded and disabled veterans who I worked with when I came back from Iraq was I said, you'll know your real mission when it scares you. Okay. And when you look at the country right now, people are afraid. They're afraid to put something pro-police on their social media.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Bro, people are afraid right now, honestly, to fly the flag in front of their house. Exactly. That is bullshit. And so you have to be courageous. And your mission as an American, your mission as a patriot, your mission as someone who loves freedom is to find in this moment, whatever your personal gifts are, whatever your personal abilities are, figure out how to use them to help us to take the country back. Let's talk about that for one second. Okay. Because the left is very organized. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And as you and I discuss this all the time, the moderate and the right is not. Okay. Not as organized. It's worse than that. Not only are we not organized, the corruption and the cowardice within the rhinos of the Republican Party consistently undermines true patriots. Yeah. I was going to ask, when you say organized, what do you mean by that?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Well, I mean... In the sense of like what? Look, man, I think it's pretty clear that a small minority of people is creating most of the disruption in the country right now. Yeah. Most people that I've talked to, their answer is i want to do something but i don't know what to do or or they won't let me say it they say that a lot and that's just a courage thing that's that's an illusion that they use technology to create so that it's political
Starting point is 00:58:59 correctness basically expanded upon where they put this this idea into the society where people become afraid to speak so they silence themselves right and that's what we're dealing with here so we're you know i get asked all the time as you know like you know and i really do get asked all the time i like sal yeah that's right it's not like sal doing his instagram story hey guys i got a bunch of questions today on on how awesome on how awesome am. So I'd like to answer those questions. Well, you'd be surprised how often I get that question. who want to be a part or or let's just say they want to vote for the right person right because it is very confusing if you're looking at it at surface level if you buy into the idea that
Starting point is 00:59:51 there's left and right it's it the system will never correct itself you have to look at the individual candidates what who they are where they come from. And like you said, what is their purpose for going into government? Is it because that's a career for them or is it because they're trying to contribute and serve? What would you give advice to like, because dude, we have people all over the country listening right now that want, dude, they're good people. They want to help. They want to do more, but they're just not sure exactly what to do. Yeah. The short answer is yes. It's just take action. Yeah. Okay. And that can take a whole bunch of different forms. It can be sharing your podcast with people, right? Saying, hey, this is where I'm getting
Starting point is 01:00:36 my information. And also I found this great news site. I'm reading just the news. I go out to Revolver News. I go out to this other site and start sharing information because people are consistently every single day being lied to by the mainstream media. I'll give you just one quick example on this. The Freedom Convoy came through Missouri. I went out. We had a rally with the Freedom Convoy. And then I jumped in my personal truck and led them for 40 miles through Missouri.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And then we had another rally. I had a friend who was standing in the crowd while I was on stage speaking to hundreds of people and they Googled what's happening with the freedom rally and the first seven stories, the freedom convoy, and the first seven stories said that it was shutting down, nobody was showing up, et cetera. They're literally lies. So one thing that you can do is figure out how to like, not just consume the truth, but also spread the truth. And it takes some courage and you can do it on email. You can do it with friends. You can do it with others, but start spreading the truth. And then also find a way to get involved and not just
Starting point is 01:01:45 involved in politics. Okay. Cause this is what the politicians would have you believe. The politicians would have you believe that this is going to get solved by people voting just for the right people. This is a cultural movement. That's right. We have to win culturally. And that means people need to stand up on behalf of freedom. It means that people need to stand up. And of course, at their school board, of course, at the local city and county level, but beyond politics, people have to be willing to stand up for what they believe in. And here's the thing. Again, we are, the patriots are, people who believe in freedom are the vast majority of the country. But bullies work by intimidating people. And it's how every totalitarian regime works.
Starting point is 01:02:31 They come in and you look at Pol Pot in Cambodia, Mao in China, Stalin in Russia, what do they do? Somebody raises their voice and they come in and they literally grab them out of a classroom. They grab them out of an office. And the message is not just to take that person out. They want everybody to see there are consequences for raising your voice. Well, you know what? If everybody starts raising their voice, we are far more powerful than them. They are bullies. We can beat them with courage. They work through fear. We, courage is rooted in love. Okay. If you love something, then you're willing to fight. They work through fear. We, courage is rooted in love, okay? If you love something, then you're willing to fight.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And if you love your country, you love your community, you love your family, you love your neighbors, all of which might be imperfect and are. That's right. We're all imperfect, but you stand up with courage and you fight for it. That's the antidote to their fear. Yeah, I think those are all awesome points, man. You know, I would just like to add on that too. You know, you guys rooting for people who are speaking up is not enough, right? It's not. And what that will get, what that will get us, if that doesn't change, which I think it is changing a little bit,
Starting point is 01:03:41 um, that's going to get your favorite personalities put in jail. Okay? Those people that you're rooting for will be selected out. You already see this. Like, you see how they went after Joe Rogan. They target the threats. Yes. It is a defined and clear methodology that tyrants always use.
Starting point is 01:04:03 People who are threats are targeted. That's right. But what we see though, the good thing we see is that it's not harmful right now. Okay. We are still in the window where we are free to speak. That is closing. All right. When you look at Rogan and you saw everybody come out and go against him, his show is higher rank now than it was then. Right. All right. So right now you're being rewarded to be courageous. And we have a heavy entrepreneur listenership here. And you guys can lead the charge with this by making your business pro-freedom. 100%. By saying, hey, we do not buy into this politically correct agenda. We believe that our employees and our customers and our people are free and we stand for freedom. And
Starting point is 01:04:54 when businesses start standing for freedom, that matters. You guys might not think it does, but here's the best part about it. You're going to make more money because people want to support that. They are hungry to support that. So when you actually have some courage, you could be the company in your little space that says, you know what? We don't apologize for believing in the American flag. We don't apologize for believing in the Constitution. We don't apologize for believing in freedom and individual
Starting point is 01:05:25 thought and individual progression. And if you do that, you're going to stand out right now. And, and perhaps more importantly, you're going to be proud of yourself. That's right. At the end of the day, as far as we know, we all only get one shot here. Yeah. Okay. And you're going to have to ask your question at the end of your days, what did I stand for? And Winston Churchill said, Teddy Roosevelt said a similar thing. Ulysses Grant said a similar thing that any person, any man who stands for something will have enemies.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And if you stand up, you are going to absolutely, people are going to, that you're going to face consequences for it. People are going to attack you if you really stand up. But at the end of the day, you're going to be proud of yourself for having stood up and done what's right. I think those consequences are far overblown. I, I, you know, everybody I see that gets canceled does better. Everybody I see that gets attacked does better. And what's that tell you? That tells you that people are tired of that shit. They're ready for a different message. They're ready for freedom. They're ready for, you know, non like this, this, this thing where we have going on in society where you get your life totally destroyed because you made a mistake or you said the thing the wrong way, or you said something that they just didn't agree with. People are tired of that. And I don't think... People are sick of it. Yeah, for sure. And I don't think people care whether or not that person that is getting attacked actually agrees with their personal views. I think people recognize it as tyrannical.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Yes. Deep down, people know. People get canceled by the people that supported them because they're not standing for what the fuck they believe in. That's a great point, dude. You know what I'm saying? You don't get canceled by the Karen that supported them because they're not standing for what the fuck they believe in. That's a great point, dude. You know what I'm saying? You don't get canceled by the Karen that's yelling at you. She never fucking supported you to begin with anyway. It's when you bend and support them back and say, oh,
Starting point is 01:07:12 I'm sorry people who don't shop at my business ever. I'm sorry. And I'll create my whole business plan around customers that aren't even my customers and that don't contribute anything financially and don't really drive my business. I'll make all my policies around you. Let me tell you, if that's you, you're not a very good business owner. Okay. You have to know your audience. You have to know that you're the leader. You guys are letting the tail wag the dog. Okay. I'm just telling you, I've been out there. I don't know of anybody besides maybe 10 people who have been as outspoken as me.
Starting point is 01:07:47 That's the truth. Guess what? We're growing. Everything I'm doing, everything I'm associated with is on fire. That's not a mistake. That's because people say, hey, you know what? I like what he says. And even if I don't like what he says, I like that he's courageous enough to say it.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Exactly. And people respect that. And a lot of you guys out there who are looking for a way to, you know, I'm missing something, I'm missing that. What you're missing is the understanding that is very simple for me to understand. 50% of the people have a propensity to like you. 50% of the people have a propensity to not like you. Your job is not to cater to the 50% of people who aren't going to like you no matter what the fuck you do. Your job is to take the 50% of the people have a propensity to not like you. Your job is not to cater to the 50% of people who aren't going to like you no matter what the fuck you do. Your job is to take the 50% of the people that have a propensity to like you and make them love you.
Starting point is 01:08:33 And if you can understand that, you will be successful. But the more you ride your fence and the more you are afraid to speak up, not only will you be nobody in business, but you're abandoning your obligation as an American, in my opinion, to actually do what's right. Because this does not survive without our voices. This freedom does not exist without exercising freedom. And the political correct nature of our society has been designed intentionally to get you to self-censor. If you self-censor and you're afraid to fly your American flag, and you're afraid to say that you love America, and you're afraid to say that you love freedom, and you're afraid to say
Starting point is 01:09:15 that all this shit going on in the world is bullshit, guess what? If you're afraid to say it, you're going to get more of it. More and more and more and more and more. And we will eventually look around and we're going to say, holy shit. And some of us are doing this right now. Holy shit. What just happened? Wow. This is crazy, right? And it's not what you want.
Starting point is 01:09:33 You're not surprised in a good way. You're like, fuck, this kind of sucks. I wish I would have said something. And there will come a time where there will not be an opportunity to speak up. And so I hope you guys realize that this started 20 something years ago. This started with removing the flag from the classroom. This started with 17th place trophies.
Starting point is 01:09:51 This started with mediocre is okay. Now it's everything is okay. It doesn't matter what you do. It's okay. And in fact, if you have a moral standard of any kind or standards of any kind, you're an evil person. That's where they've taken it. And you guys, how do people say, well, how do we get it back? I'm not allowed to say anything. No, that's not true. You are choosing to not say something. Nobody's not allowing you. You're choosing to not say something. That's what you have to understand. Oh, your sister-in-law is going to get upset? Who cares? You're self-censoring. You cannot self-censor.
Starting point is 01:10:29 We will lose freedom. You have to get to a point in life, I believe, where you say, you know what? I'm not going to shrink. That's it. I'm going to be proud of the fact that I have the right enemies. Personally, I'm proud of the fact that George Soros comes after me. I'm proud of the fact that I was sued by the Satanic Temple. I'm proud of the fact that I get attacked by the mainstream media. I'm proud of the fact that Mitch McConnell and Karl Rove come after me, because you know what that means? I'm standing for people. And I sometimes say this when I'm
Starting point is 01:11:00 out when we're campaigning, I say, guys say guys you know i have all the right enemies yeah right and if soros is coming after me in the satanic temple and the rhinos and the mainstream media like it's because i'm doing something right if i wasn't a threat to them they'd leave you alone so you have to look at the people they leave alone yes yes okay they so what that says when you break it down guys is uh i'm not, guys, is I'm not scared of that guy. I'm not scared of that guy. I'm not scared of that guy. But we got to fuck with that guy because he's a problem for us.
Starting point is 01:11:30 That's what hurts. Yeah. But people are not connecting these dots yet. Yeah. Like the more and more people are. Yeah. More and more people. I'll tell you this is a big difference between 2016 and 2022.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Really? Yeah. Huge. Back in 2016, people knew like, okay, CNN and MSNBC, they're kind of like out there on the left. They're biased. They're biased, but they thought CBS, NBC, ABC, they're kind of shooting you straight no more. No one trusts the mainstream media. These are real people that you talk to. Real people. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Hundreds and thousands of them. Really? Thousands and thousands of them. No one trusts the mainstream media. And in fact, listen, here's what happens. All of the elitists always underestimate how intelligent real people are. And the fact is now when real people see that the mainstream media is writing a nasty story about someone, the immediate reflective assumption is that man or woman must be doing something right. That is the immediate reflective assumption. Because why? Because they've seen it. They're smart. They've looked time and time and time and time again. What do they do? They shoot all of these lies out and they attack people who are threats. And so no one trusts the mainstream
Starting point is 01:12:45 media anymore. And it's one of the reasons why, frankly, podcasts like this do incredibly well. Again, they underestimate the intelligence of real people. Real people who are listening to this, they'll spend 90 minutes, they'll spend 120 minutes having an intelligent, deep, historically informed, philosophically thoughtful, compassionate conversation about the issues that are in front of us. And they will spend an hour and a half, two hours of their day doing that because people are smart and they're onto their games. They figured it out. Good. That's good to hear, man. Because I know you talk to people on the street. All the time. All the time. Dude, I was down in Dunklin County, Missouri last Saturday. If you're
Starting point is 01:13:26 looking at this nationally, this is the boot heel of Missouri. It's one of my favorite spots in Missouri. Passionate, courageous, strong people. And everyone down there knows, everyone. If you'd done a survey, it's like 98% believe that the mainstream media lies. They get it. About everything. About everything. About everything. Yeah. Dude, I'm to the point now, and this is where I tell people, I'm like, dude, if they're saying it, there is a likelihood, there is a legitimate chance that the exact opposite
Starting point is 01:14:01 is actually true. Yes. No. Legitimately. It's legitimately. It's legitimately. Like, if you watch CNN and you take their fucking headline and you flip it around the other way,
Starting point is 01:14:10 that's actually what's going on. Like, in most cases. Yeah. Stole, counted millions in the cold Bad bitch, booted, swole Got her on bankroll, can't fold Just a note, headshot, case closed

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