REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 377. Andy, Dave Smith & DJ CTI: ... Part 1
Episode Date: September 16, 2022In today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by Comedian and Libertarian Dave Smith. They discuss the intentional division forced upon us by the world's elites, how the evolution of communic...ation through social media has created more chaos in our societies, and what individual Americans can do to combat these issues.
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What is up guys, it's Andy Purcell and this is the show for the realists, say goodbye
to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys today. Now, I know some of you can't read, so I got to do this intro
exactly to bring to your attention that what the link that you clicked on today,
the very special link, you happen to click on one of the best links you could possibly click on to listen to this show.
And let me tell you what it is.
It is Andy and DJ and Dave Smith.
Cruise the motherfucking internet.
That's fucking right.
That's what we're going to do.
Yeah, we're going to cruise.
Bro, I'm so excited to have you here.
We've got Dave Smith, comedian, libertarian, extraordinaire, all-around badass dude.
One of my favorite potential guests that we've had, and you're here in the flesh.
Oh, dude, I'm thrilled to be here, man.
This place is incredible.
Taking the tour here is inspirational, man.
I'm blown away with what you've built here.
Thank you, man. Thank you. we're excited to uh to dig into this you know we just had maj on the on the
show a couple weeks ago uh he's that dude's so awesome dude he's amazing totally misunderstood
too people don't understand what he's doing i get when he explained that like you know hey
sometimes i piss off the right sometimes i piss off the left like i get it you know i'm saying
like i get it good libertarians
do yeah well it's like what i love about maj is he's like very he's actually when you meet him
he's one of the sweetest most humble guys yeah but he believes what he believes and he's not
backing down off of that and there's so much pressure like today especially because everyone's
like so kind of like polarized and then these camps form up and once you're like an
influencer or content creator or whatever you're like oh man but if i say this thing then this
entire audience who i've curried favor with now is going to be pissed off at me and it's just like
it incentivizes everyone to just placate their camp more and more and more and the problem with
that is that so many of these camps have their own
problems and if you know if you're never willing to like look at that and go oh okay well we got
to do better at this then you just yeah the problem never really gets solved so maj is great
on that stuff that idea of like all or nothing like i believe in all of this and none of that
bro nobody believes that nobody even believes it it's where are they like
where have we come from that's the fucking product of this what dave just said this polarizing
environment and what we have is a bunch of people who are pretending to play along with a bunch of
other people and hiding their true beliefs because nobody believes in everything on the left. Nobody believes in everything on the right.
And what happens is these social tribes form and they pressure people into not standing
on what they believe to be true.
And if we had a situation in America where people just told the truth, we would have
a unified nation right now.
Yeah.
But the problem is we have social pressures on the right.
If you're not conservative
enough you get fucking canceled by these motherfuckers you i don't know what the fuck
you got on the left i'm trying to figure the fuck out i can't figure it out i just know i'm not there
but and so i'm used to them yelling at me right but the truth is the path of most resistance
is being a reasonable freedom loving american and that that's the most resistance is being a reasonable, freedom-loving American.
And that's the most resistance that we're going to face just because of the echo chambers
that social media has created.
Dude, because I fall into the same thing, man.
I'm kind of like, I would say I'm way more libertarian than anything else.
But I have a little of everything.
You know what I mean?
And I think we all do, depending on what our perspective is and how we grew up and where we
grew up and what we learn and who we were taught by. And, you know, it's certainly not lending
itself to any kind of productive solution. And in fact, you know, it's weird. It's really weird to
me, dude, because when you go out in the real world, none of these echo chambers are real.
Right, they don't exist.
Bro, when I meet someone in public,
and I am stereotyping here
because there's a lot of truths of stereotypes,
that has blue fucking hair
and 15 fucking piercings in their fucking face.
And I'm polite to them.
And I can tell they don't align with what I align with.
But I'm polite to them.
They are polite back.
We shake hands
it's all good dude yeah and like we live in this in this country now where we we are we are
constantly cultivated to be divided uh you know by our government by our media by our our hollywood
narratives and all of these things and we're told you know you and i aren't supposed to be friends
because you're black and i'm fucking not black right okay actually the truth is i'm more black
than you that's true all right but we're we're told that we can't even be fucking friends bro
right you know it's absurd shit and like the the absurdity that that's happening on these devices
by the way is intentional it's intentional uh there's a book
that just came out called the chaos machine and it's about the social media intent and like dude
i am like halfway through the book and i'm like holy shit this is way worse than i thought and i
thought it was pretty fucking bad right you know what i'm saying um and all the you know you see
like all of the like most
powerful institutions you know like that whether it's politicians or the corporate press or
hollywood or just big giant corporations they're all pushing all of this divisive stuff like the
stuff that just gets regular americans fighting with each other and you're like it makes you
wonder like well why is it why is it that you guys are so
intent on pushing this stuff when a lot of times it doesn't even seem to be in their economic
interest like it's not clear why you would want to you would want to alienate a huge portion of
your market share i gotta tell you i do think there's something to be said for the fact that
like what after the 2008 crash when the big banks got bailed out but with taxpayer money and there
was all of this
resistance that rose up, both Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party.
They both started over the same thing, which was the banks getting bailed out, which is
so transparently unfair.
Who can really defend this?
And then the idea that it's like, well, we gave Goldman Sachs a bunch of money because
we really care about the little guy so much.
It's a pretty tough sell.
And it's interesting to me that coming right on the heels of that, all of this divisive stuff gets pushed.
And to your point, man, this is kind of like the essence of why I'm a libertarian.
You go, look, you have the political realm, and then you have the market, which is just all of us living our lives.
And what you're talking about is have the market which is just all of us living our lives and what you're talking
about is like within the market realm within the realm of like free people voluntarily associating
we all have lots of different wildly different views you know but we don't we don't have to go
to war over them right right now in this in this company i guarantee you within my vision i see
an atheist and a christian But there's one of each.
Simultaneously exist.
Think about what those views are, if you really break it down.
One of those people believes that the most important thing in his life
is his personal relationship with Jesus Christ,
and he believes that if you don't accept Jesus Christ into your heart,
that you're going to be in a pit of hell for eternity.
That's what he believes.
The other person believes that guy is just delusional right and none of this is real at
all but they're like high-fiving and smiling together because they're both working together
they both like their job they both like the company they work at they probably could hang
out on the weekend because they both like football or whatever you know what i mean we just don't
care because it's not but when it's a political difference if that's what you're talking about all of a sudden it's like this thing where oh you got to
like hate each other and because it's a war over who's gonna win and rule over the other one so
it's like once you once you like kind of like shrink politics then everyone can get along and
the problem now so much of it in our culture is that everything is supposed to be political you
go to the movies that's supposed to be political you go to the movies
that's supposed to be political you you know you turn on every commercial is supposed to be
political football is supposed to be political it's like people don't want that and and for me
as i've it's almost like stand-up comedy now is like so but in you're like isn't the goal here
just for this to be entertainment yeah just be like a relief from all that stuff i think we need a lot more of that dude i i have a theory
on how we got here and and you know back in you know before technology and i'm talking i'm not
talking the 90s i'm talking like the 1800s right like we had a problem with a neighbor what do we
we only have one solution right we had to walk over there. We had to say, hey, bro.
Fuck you.
No, no.
You say, hey, no, you didn't do that because there was repercussions of doing that.
Right, right, right.
All right?
So you didn't go over there and say, hey, neighbor, your fence is three feet on my property.
Fuck you.
That's not what happened because you get shot, right?
What happened was people had to go over. They had to have civil discourse, they had to problem solve, they had to communicate.
Then we had the newspapers and the radio and TV come around, mass media. And then we were
starting to get fed information, which had never happened before. Like it never really happened
before in history. Most of what we knew as humans was through our own personal experiences.
And we had great disparity in what we knew.
There was people who were highly educated.
There was people who didn't know shit other than don't touch that fire
because it'll burn your fucking hand, right?
So there's all kinds of different levels,
but most of it was based off of what we actually observed,
which allowed us to teach ourselves what reality really
was and then you know we we started to advance technology and we had uh you know fax machine
right now we could send a piece of paper all right then we had uh email right oh holy i
could connect with anybody instantly right now then we we had social media, man, I could tell anybody anything
right now. So, so that's all great. That was all great. Those are great forms of communication,
all, all valid, but then something happened. And what happened was Facebook took the comment
section and instead of allowing civil discourse, they created a like button in the comments, okay?
And so what ended up happening is
instead of us having disagreements
based off merit or knowledge or logic
or any of these things and discussing them, right?
Like we all do with all kinds of people all the time.
Now the game, instead of solving problems,
it became, how can I zing this person or how can i neg this
person to get the reaction on the like button as efficient as possible that's right no no dude
the more the the harder the burn the more the likes right so it fundamentally changed the way
that people communicate then in dms they took the dms and they said, okay, no more DMs.
There's a fucking heart.
Now you can react like with these little emojis and these things.
And so what they've done is they've created a scenario where we no longer actually communicate
at all.
We don't.
Not online.
I mean, very few people do.
Very few people.
How many times do we actually see, not in a in a uh you know a town hall like you do and
things like that how many times do we actually see people go back and forth in a respectful way
with the goal to solve a problem on the internet right it doesn't fucking happen and by the way
that's by design right okay there's attempts but like people because they can't handle the
communication no because you're always gonna have people who are hungry for relevance who are willing to put other people down or make other
people feel stupid or look stupid so that they can get attention i mean we call these people
fucking trolls right right but the point is is that this culture has become such a deep rooted
part of our culture over the last decade that it's really almost impossible to do it on social
media. And unfortunately we spend so much time on social media that it becomes a scenario where we
start to believe that's the way the world is. And it's just not that way. It's not reality.
I don't have those experiences in real life, bro. There's never, there has never been a situation
outside of like in bar culture right where you know you might have
two guys that are drinking and you get a fight or something right but like in the local gas station
i'm the guy across putting putting gas in his truck and i'm putting gas in my truck our conversation
is normal like it's normal human interaction and so we're living in two societies we have a society that these tech
people control and intentionally divide they they indoctrinate indoctrinate us with with theories
and knowledge that isn't actually true black people and white people don't fucking hate each
other it's not true okay uh i could go down the line like like republicans don't hate gay people
like that shit from 50 fucking years ago.
Like, are there some?
Sure.
There's also some people on the left that think it's okay to fuck your kids.
Exactly.
Okay. So let's be fucking real about the, the, the extreme polarity of what we're talking about.
And social media lends itself to the light on those things because they're so extreme
and attention grabbing that we forget how to do this.
And what we're suffering from, in my opinion, in this country is just a lack of actual communication
that is geared towards common, good problem solving for all of us.
Yeah. And it's really, I think that's completely right. And of course, like when you're on social
media and I think Twitter is probably the worst of it because it also limits how long, so your only thing, your only option is just to say,
you know, you can't even beat them
with a devastating argument.
You just have to call them names or something.
It's all there's space for, you know,
if you're arguing with someone.
And it removes all of the human factors,
like you're not face to face,
you don't have this kind of thing.
Like even as you said, you know,
with your example of back in like the 1890s
or whatever this is a thing that regulates human behavior particularly male human behavior that we
know all of this being unspoken but you just know that there's a line you could cross right where
you might get decked in the face and deserve it that's correct deserve it like and that fact that
like there's there's a, like if there's just like
everyone in this room was watching
and if there was a line
of just outrageous disrespect
that I crossed to you
and you hit me
and everyone,
not just because it's your company
or something,
but just like,
they'd be like,
yeah, dude, he had it coming.
You know what I mean?
Like we all know that
and that regulates our behavior
to some degree.
Also just decency,
like being a decent person.
When I'm looking in your eyes and I see you as a person, I'm much less likely to just be really awful.
Whereas if you're just sitting in your boxers on your phone, it's much easier to say horrible things.
So all of this brings it down.
And then the other thing about it is that you got people exerting control over these social media companies.
You know, it's pretty interesting when Mark Zuckerberg was on Rogan.
What was it last month you saw?
And he asked him a lot, you know, about the Hunter Biden story.
And he goes, well, you know, the FBI came to us and it's like, oh, interesting now.
So the FBI, you know, it would be a violation of the First Amendment for them to say, like like arrest someone or shut down a newspaper but they can go
and tell twitter or facebook to shut down a newspaper and now i guess technically they've
done an end around of like violating the first amendment but man in spirit they've totally
violated the the you know the freedom of speech freedom of the press so you've got all these
problems and the thing that i worry about the most i got like real little kids now so i don't have to deal with this right now but it's just how much like how bad
it is for teenagers and stuff to always be on their phone to be isolated to not be like having
those real authentic social experiences that like we all had growing up like i just think that's not
it's not human no that's a thing though but like dude they're preparing this next generation
for the ultimate level of control yeah that's a part of the whole agenda they did a
really really good job indoctrinating indoctrinating you know the 18 to 25 age group right now so that
took place 25 years ago right took and take taking the american pledge out of the classroom i think
it's like it was very very strategic you know i'm
saying now they're preparing this next generation for the next 10 years 10 15 years to be prepared
for ultimate levels of control well man i mean if that propaganda had negative effects this
propaganda is on steroids so i don't know i don't know what this is going to mean for the future but
you know hopefully there's some type of like pendulum swing back from i feel like it is i feel like the like our natural order is coming back yeah i feel
like that too i i feel like the young the young that from what i can observe and talking to my
team you know like look dude i'm 43 all right like i don't know what the fuck these kids damn
yeah bro good looking as fuck.
I mean, fucking over here looking at me weird and shit.
All right?
Fucking Silver Fox, Sean Connery shit coming out, bro.
There he is.
I ain't even hit my prime yet.
Just wait.
But the thing is, is like, is like these younger kids, and I talked to my guys who were in
the retail store who were like around 30, and they're like, yeah, dude, these younger kids. And I talked to my guys who were, who were in the retail store who were like around 30 and they're like,
yeah,
dude,
these younger kids,
like the,
the 18,
19,
20 year old kids,
they recognize that people older than them are like totally fucking up
their shit.
And so I think there is a pendulum swinging back with that generation.
Um,
and that's just why we're seeing school walkouts and things with a lot of
this woke narrative
stuff um we saw when we went to the fucking county fair yeah we went to a county fair here and i mean
dude it was all like all the young men were very like much so young men normal men masculine well
i think it's uh it's it's interesting right and i'm sure you get a lot of this with like younger
people who listen to your show um and uh and like it's
interesting to see how much your stuff kind of like took off you know and obviously there's women
too who listen but like i'm just particularly interested with the the men and like seeing
people like uh jordan peterson uh joe rogan a lot of these guys really become like huge is that the
there it is like you said it's like this natural order reasserting itself where the problem with this insanity of the current culture is that when you young men when they have nothing and when i mean
nothing i mean they didn't they grew up with in a broken you know home with because divorce has
been completely normalized they uh they don't they didn't have religion they didn't have any
sense of like um like you know god country loyalty chivalry isn't even really a
thing that's like taught to them there's no kind of like purpose or meaning that's that's you know
explain to them like this is what the purpose of things and that's something that human beings
particularly young men crave so as soon as someone comes along and like tells them like no no listen
you can take responsibility for yourself you can work toward achieving a goal you can be an example for other people and not just you can do that but you know what like that's your
responsibility to do that that's your job you're hitting on it right now it's it's an obligation
yeah like we have lost the idea remember we went to uh where we go uh out on the east coast uh
to talk with ed and his talk i forgot the state oh north carolina rally we went to rally right
yeah we had
a driver um i can't remember the guy's name but he was awesome uh jay what i think it was jay i
can't remember but he was awesome 18 year military vet black dude uh got got you know when you're
driving around you get to talk to these dudes and he's like you know what i think the problem is
and this fucking really like brought it all together for me he's like, you know what I think the problem is? And this fucking really like brought it all together for me.
He's like, look, dude, you know, you and I, we come from different places, but we also
understood that there's a minimum expectation as an American to live to a certain standard.
Our job is to honor the people who have paid prices before us to live to a certain standard
so that the people coming after us will also continue that.
And that's, when he said that, it clicked for me.
That's what we're missing.
We're missing the understanding.
How old are you?
I'm 39.
Yeah, okay, so we're like in the same era.
Like we grew up with that.
Like, I don't know how you grew up.
I really don't, i know you from the
internet like we're not homies yet you know we are but you know what i'm saying um i don't know
your life story but i'm willing to bet that you grew up with that understanding yeah you know and
and that's something that the men who are i would say know, 35 and older sort of understand that the generation 35 and younger
was, I think, intentionally not taught. Yeah. And, but one of the things that's
interesting, and it's almost kind of like a paradox in a sense, because it's,
it's a funny dynamic because almost like what you're selling is like a burden and a responsibility yeah but it's actually
people really like it yeah like because and and that's like a beautiful thing about life it's
really important for people to realize but it's like there's no like i i was in a state when i
was like in my 20s and i was just single and i did stand-up comedy and went on the road and i had like
really no responsibilities in life you know what i mean i was like yeah i guess try to get get my rent paid this month and that's
kind of fine and now i have like a wife and a daughter a son or my responsibility to take care
of and i'm so much happier now than i was then because that's what gives you a sense of purpose
and joy and and like meaning in your life andpose is a key element of happiness. Yes, it's so much more rewarding than just...
So it's interesting to see this generation of young men who were never told about this,
and then when someone comes along and explains it to them, they light up like, oh, that's
amazing.
Like, this is, oh, I have a place in the world now.
I have something that actually is meaningful.
And so that gives me a lot of like encouragement
for the future when you see how much it's like oh yeah as much as they try to rob you of this stuff
it's still it's still in there i remember um reading uh this really brilliant um uh historian
murray rothbard who's like my my like favorite like libertarian figure ever um she he was talking
about when in the soviet union in the in the 80s
like no one really thought the soviet union was about to collapse like the cia thought they were
going to go on for another hundred years no one thought they were like on the verge of collapse
and people would say they think like they go well you know the soviets have actually succeeded
in creating the new socialist man which is basically what they were always saying they
were doing like the man who's not incentivized by these other he cares about society and sacrificing for the greater
good and all the communist you know nonsense that they would preach and then what you saw when the
soviet union was collapsed was immediately people went right back to nationality christianity uh
you know the desire for a better life for themselves and their family it's like no you
can't actually engineer this out like and that was if the soviet union couldn't do it you know the desire for a better life for themselves and their family it's like no you can't actually engineer this out like and that was if the soviet union couldn't do it you know
it's going to be really hard for anyone else to it's like these things that have been truths
you know natural order for thousands of years are still in people they still want that it's
in bread it's 100% agreed it's primarily an innate in us right we have to what do you so dude for the people who
remain i'm be unfamiliar with you uh tell us a little bit like how did you get to become uh
because dude i heard i heard this i heard some shit too i heard i heard that maybe you might be
running for president as libertarian candidate well i'm getting a lot of pressure to do it yeah
and uh i've i kept trying to come up with excuses not to and they've been peeled away little by little by
little like my my whole camp of libertarians they just took over the the libertarian party and they
won every single position so now it's like all of them everyone in the party really wants me to to
run and then like it was like one thing after another i remember at one point i was like uh because a bunch of like the higher up libertarians guys really want me to do it and
then i was like well i'm gonna you know what my wife's not gonna be into it and then that'll be
my excuse i don't have to do it i went to my wife you know i was like baby this is crazy but like
they want me to run for president on the libertarian party ticket and she's like you have
to do it oh fuck and i'm like oh no i was like but you were my house what do you mean she's like no
this is like what you were born to do you have to do it what are you so excited about this i was
like you know you know i'd have to go do this it'd be a sacrifice and she's like whatever we'll do it
so i you know i haven't like officially decided anything uh yet but what i my whole thing with
it really is that i just really i think that the best of America, the best of the American tradition
always was a belief in liberty. Like that's the whole thing is the declaration of independence
and the bill of rights is all just like, we believe men ought to be free. And here's all
the things the government can't do to you, you know? And like, we've gotten so far away from
that. And for me, like, I really, I got into all of this stuff because of Ron Paul. And like,
when I saw him, when he was running for president, I was just like, this guy is nailing
it. That's the perfect answer. It's like, it's the perfect answer to the left-right cultural fight.
It's the perfect answer to every like foreign military conflict. It's like, it's so obvious
when you see it. It's like, well, here's the answer. You think you, you know, want to live
your life one way and someone else wants to live their life another way. Okay, fine. You just can't impose it on the other person.
You have your liberty.
They have theirs.
And what's the answer with all the foreign wars and all of that?
It's this simple.
If our country is attacked, we defend our country.
But we don't go around the world just starting wars for other reasons.
And we don't bankrupt the next generation to maintain this government that we can't
afford to have.
And we don't destroy the currency by just printing trillions of dollars out of thin air and it's just like i think that message needs to be told yeah to america that
it's not like there is a different option than just these two paths that you know you're
artificially led to believe we can go down so i'm i really like spreading that message and
that's that would be why i'd be considering, you know, running.
Dave, let me ask you this. What would you say? Because I feel like a lot of people,
they don't know that that's an option, right? And I think once you really get into the ideals and
the platforms of libertarian, a lot of people, oh shit, well, I agree with that, right? What would
you say are some obstacles though that, you know, the libertarian movement is facing that they need
to overcome well i mean there's a lot i mean you know one of the the things is that the libertarian
position is that basically the government should be if anything just basically limited to the
protection of liberty and that's all the government should do like if a government is to exist the point of the government existing is to protect your rights so it's basically like
to protect your property rights your physical you know safety maybe adjudicate disputes in the court
and gender studies in india not yes right that would be a little bit taking 60 percent of our
fucking highest producers income yeah and pocketing it how about that well i mean the idea the idea
of it i mean the idea of like the irs even existing as a thing is so insane if you just
like sit back and like if it didn't exist and someone was explaining it to you you'd be like
this is the most insane thing i've ever heard of tyranny like yes you'd be like oh were we conquered
by the soviet union like did the chinese invade and conquer us and install the iraq like if you were in a free country if you were in a free country
and someone just said to you hey um so the government is going to set up this uh this uh
organization and it's not a government agency though yes right well but they're gonna set it
up right and there's and we've just decided that it's now it's a crime to uh produce it's a
it's a crime to produce things and be a productive member of society and the punishment is a fee
and the more you produce the more punishment you're going to get oh and by the way uh the
fifth amendment doesn't exist for you anymore in fact you're compelled by law to incriminate
yourself every single year to the federal government for committing the crime of producing
something yeah and if you ever uh you know like we know exactly how much you've produced but if you ever tell us
you produce something that is there's a discrepancy between what we've produced well then we're going
to audit you and we can go back 20 years and make sure that you and you'd be like and the
punishment by the way is prison for all this if you have it you be like, this is totalitarianism. Like, what is this? I pay a fee to stay the fuck out of jail in a free country.
For the crime of employing people.
For the crime.
Yes.
Bro, people do not understand that.
And the average person, because they're not financially, you know, well off.
Okay.
And because the perspective is most of them have worked a regular job
and they're like, fuck, I fucking hate my job because you work for shitty motherfuckers.
Okay. But there's, you have to understand that there is a whole segment of entrepreneurs
that clearly understand that if they provide value, they get paid. And because they get paid and they want to be successful themselves,
they will then take, like for me, if I didn't have to pay fucking tax,
you guys, people will think, oh, Andy's going to buy another fucking car.
Motherfucker, I got 35 fucking cars.
I'm buying another car.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to expand my business.
I'm going to grow my company.
I'm going to provide jobs.
I'm going to build careers.
And guess what I can do when I don't pay all that motherfucking tax? I can pay you more.
I can provide you with a better life. And this is the argument that people fail to understand
because they get sold the idea that, oh, if we don't tax the shit out of these guys,
they're just going to use their greed and take it themselves and there are people who will do that the the thing is the natural order of entrepreneurship and business
will automatically bankrupt those people anyway right and even if they are the thing is like look
there is like greed whatever exactly that means because it's such a it's one of those terms that
always just means everyone else except you you know like yes there are people who want a better
life for themselves and want to live a nice life and want more things for their family their fucking greed for the
better good well that's the point and so the only way that look there's there's basically two realms
of like economic and social activity there's the voluntary and the the forced right and so the
every businessman everyone in in the world of of being an entrepreneur is working in the voluntary
realm the only people who work in the forced realm being an entrepreneur is working in the voluntary realm.
The only people who work in the forced realm are criminals and government, right? They work in the
realm of give me money or I'll throw you in jail or give me your wallet or I'll shoot you. That's
like criminals and government. Now you and every other businessman, if you want to have a great
life, what you have to do is provide something of value that other people will voluntarily give you their money for.
That's right. That's the only way to do it. Now, whether you do that, and it's a mix of both for
most people, but whether you do that because you really love providing something of value or
because you really love getting their money from them, that's the only way it works is if you
provide something of value. All these people who are working for you can quit and leave if they
want to. They're here voluntarily. That's right. So you have to make it good enough that they want to stay and get on board with your vision and what you want to do. That's,
it's a, it's a, you know, in the same way that like a marriage is a free market, right? It's a,
that's the free market. The beauty of it is it's voluntary in the same sense that like,
if you know, you're in like an arranged marriage and you tell your wife, if, uh, if she leaves,
you'll kill her. I don't want to hear about how
you're a good husband because you're not. The only way to know that you're a good husband is if she
can leave if she wants to and chose to be with you and continues to choose. Now, even in this
scenario, if you go, if you just took the money and this is why capitalism, when you see capitalism
come to places, you ever see pictures of like South Korea before they were capitalist and
afterward or Hong Kong after they literally go from like mud huts to skyscrapers.
The reason why so much wealth is produced and the standard of living rise so much for
everyone is because look, even if you, let's say you kept that other 60% of your money
and you go, I'm just going to invest it.
I'm just going to put it in the bank.
It's okay.
Well, what's the bank going to do with it?
The bank's going to loan that money out to other entrepreneurs who are going to go start
their businesses with it. No matter what you do with it, even if you just spend it all on cars, it's like, well, what's the bank going to do with it? The bank's going to loan that money out to other entrepreneurs who are going to go start their businesses with it.
No matter what you do with it, even if you just spend it all on cars,
it's like, okay, well, there's a car manufacturer now
who's employing thousands of people in this town.
You almost can't do anything with it that will be destroyed.
Now, what the government can do with it is gender studies in Pakistan.
What the government can do with it is blow up a bridge in Syria
and then pay to rebuild that bridge in Syria.
And then not only that, hire their buddies to rebuild the bridge at 100 times the cost of building a bridge and then get 50% sent back to them.
Right.
And look, this is all over us right now.
If you look in America, even after 2020 and 2021 and 2022, these devastating years for the economy,
you go look at where the richest districts in America are.
And I think 10 of the top 13 are all the suburbs of Washington, D.C.
The others are all the suburbs of New York City.
That's where all the wealth is.
It's like it's all those guys are doing quite well.
You know, if you work for like a weapons company
or you work for somebody like Politically Connect,
one of these green energy companies who gets all these subsidies, those people
are millionaires off of this.
And then all of the people in the banking system that got bailed out by the government
and the stock market system, they're all making tons of money.
And who's suffering for it?
Like regular Americans.
And then those Americans, it's so like messed up when you think about it.
They are propagandized to think that a guy like you is their enemy i know that a guy who's sitting here creating jobs it where they are no but i'm
the bad guy i'm the rich right like i'm the fucking rich they're talking about it's such a
like it's such a weird dynamic especially for me being in it i did an interview uh with will
kane from fox great dude i like him a him a lot. We were talking about the elite.
And he's like, well, fuck, bro.
He's like, aren't you part of the elite?
And I'm like, well, if we look at my financial statement, yes.
But I come from, I'm the average American person who has built something.
Like, they're targeting people like me and saying,
these fuckers are fucking you when they have the dudes at the very top who literally could
write a check today for my entire worth and not even sweat a bead of sweat down their face,
who don't pay any tax, who run the biggest companies in the world those dudes get a
pass and they're going to target people like me because their goal is for them and all their
little friends who are in with them to have everything and they tell you this they tell you
this you will own nothing they tell you this and they also they deem you know and this is partly
the thing is that when you're uh broke which look i've been this before like this is what i came from in my my childhood like
when you're broke you have no idea what money is like you just have no idea like if someone had
said to me when i was like you know like uh uh 20 i'd be making what i'm making now i'd be like oh
my god that's like insane to me but you have no idea the difference between like you know someone
who makes 400 grand a year know someone who makes 400 grand
a year and someone who makes 400 million like it just it's it's all like these are rich people
we're talking about you don't really understand and so they use this kind of like um you know
like we're going to tax the rich but then they end up taxing are like like killing i mean they
tax everybody but they end up taxing they go like oh yeah rich you know like 250 000 or above and then as if that
person most of the time those people are people who started from very humble like like middle
class or working class backgrounds who did all the right things to get themselves up the ranks
and then even like like even the person who's worth like hundreds of millions millions of dollars
they they they think that and then the person who's worth like billions of dollars has the whole
system rigged in their favor.
That's right.
So they're not paying anything into it.
They bought off all the politicians to write the loopholes into the tax codes and they
just laugh at everybody else.
We just talked about this yesterday, dude.
We were talking about how most people, if you tell them you'll make a hundred grand,
their perception of a hundred grand is a lot of money.
Might as well be a hundred million.
Bro, listen, a hundred thousand dollars in America today
will barely get you the fuck by.
If you got a family, man,
and you're making a hundred grand right now
with this inflation and this,
they're struggling.
That's what I'm saying.
Ask anybody who makes a hundred thousand dollars
if they feel rich. Ask anybody who makes $100,000 if they feel rich.
Ask anybody who makes $250,000 if they feel rich.
That's not rich.
They've redefined the idea of what wealth and rich is based upon what they want.
And what they want is you in total poverty.
They want to fucking bury the people like me who run these mid-sized brands and companies
that provide most of the middle class work.
They want to bury those people and tell you that your fucking boss is the reason that
shit's fucked up so that they can push everybody into the fucking most dependent category,
which is poor.
Well, most people don't understand too, Andy, on that shit rolls downhill, right?
And you got a lot of business owners.
Let's say they don't have the best fucking ethics right they get a fucking hefty tax bill okay what do they start doing they start cutting them cutting fucking employment jobs they
start cutting fucking pay they start shit rolls passing passing bro you think they're gonna make
fucking less money tax listen i pay more tax probably than almost anybody listening to this motherfucking show. No.
Okay?
The tax system is so oppressive that it's not even unethical to cut jobs to pay the government.
Right.
Like, that is reality in a lot of cases.
It's a have to.
Bro, I got my first big tax bill.
Because to your point, they make the tax code so fucking hard to understand litigious that literally
anybody they choose to investigate is going to have shit this is how they fucking this is how
they make you fear them this is how they oppress you and it doesn't need to be that way no okay
but what people don't understand uh i don't know, like 2000, I don't know, in 2008 or nine
or something like that, I got my first big tax bill and then we fucked up part of our tax because
we were collecting it wrong. And it was over a million dollars, bro. Remember at this point in
time, I was making $695 per month. I got a fucking tax bill for over a million dollars. How the fuck are you supposed
to pay that as a small business owner? And you know what it was? It was that we forgot to mail
in part of our taxes because there's no way to like, there's no coach that comes to your business
and says, this is how to do it. You either do it right or you do it wrong. And if you do it wrong,
they bury you intentionally. They put you out of fucking business. So when you say unethical,
it's really not. What's unethical is the amount of pain that they inflict on these business owners
that put them in a position. Yeah. And you guys out there who are thinking like,
fuck my company. They don't pay enough. Bro, your company is paying taxes on their product.
Okay. So when I get a pallet of fucking product that I didn't have yesterday
and it's new, I'm paying tax on that. Then I'm paying tax. When I pay myself again,
you don't understand what's happening. It's completely fucking oppressive. And it's so hard.
It's so our economy would go fucking insane. If the tax rate was just a flat 15 you would see economic growth like you
have never fucking seen ever we would be the most we would be the wealthiest as a whole society that
has ever existed in the in human history well just and think about like and i know you're probably
like zero tax guy oh yeah yeah but like well most people don't even know but i'd still be very happy with like lowering that's a good start that would be
that would be a great start um and uh you know like look you think about it like this i mean
in response to uh the the covid uh insanity and the insane response the the response to the insane
lockdowns was that well now because we have the lockdowns, what do we have to do? Well, we have to just print all this money.
I mean, there was $6 trillion just in 2020.
And then more insanity in 2021.
And then this year, of course, I mean, just the unbelievable spending of money we don't have.
That we're just printing out of thin air.
The money doesn't even exist.
Oh, by the way, we just started noticing.
Hey, why is inflation going so crazy?
It's like, oh, yeah, because you can't just print dollars out of thin air.
Or every poor country could just be a rich country tomorrow by printing money like it
doesn't actually work that way you have to produce things check some but if you go just imagine if
the response instead of that was just like oh well like people are hurting so what we're gonna do
is uh suspend the income tax for three years you could have done it for cheaper than what they
ended up spending and now it would have taken. There would have been a boom in people investing in businesses,
starting new business.
And it and instead of where you get through the political right,
who gets rewarded with all these big spending bills?
Well, the politically connected.
But basically what happened was the American people got chump change.
You got like 600 bucks or 1200 bucks.
Giant corporations got enormous giveaways while small and midsize companies
were like
trying to find a way to stay open with all of the rules that the government was putting on them
but if you instead if you said okay we're gonna you know give you uh three years with no income
tax you'd be rewarding everybody who works everybody who starts a business they know this
yeah they know this shit yeah this is the thing what we're talking about here you guys listening
they you
have to understand these people are not stupid they were not geniuses and no motherfucker they
play stupid yeah so that you'll believe they're stupid these people are not stupid and what i
believe and what i said on the show many times is what they're doing is they are intentionally
bottoming out the united states currency so they can bring in digital currency. That's their fucking plan.
And you guys out there with large amounts of cash, you should probably be looking to convert
that into some sort of asset of some sort because the reality is they are not stopping. They're
going to continue to print this money. They are going to fuck everybody who has saved their entire
lives. So if you're a saver, you need to get into gold this is not financial
advice i'm not a fucking expert i'm telling you what i'm doing i'm getting into fucking real shit
okay because that way whenever they bring in the digital currency i can trade it back out but
because like dude we could we hate it all we want they're doing it yeah and this idea like what
you're seeing in my opinion with all of this printing of cash is you're seeing, in my opinion, with all of this printing of cash,
is you're seeing them do that exact same thing on a large scale.
So they're not only just printing cash to intentionally make it harder so that we all
have to be dependent on them.
They're actually sending, this is what's going on in Ukraine.
They're sending all this fucking money overseas.
And then they're getting kickbacks from their military industrial complex partners.
And what they're doing is they're then taking the cash, they're converting it into whatever assets,
and they're preparing for the fucking fall of the United States dollar. And then they're going to
transfer it into the digital currency. And dude, this is very dangerous for a lot of reasons.
We have to be able to trade without their influence on us and when you guys are buying
into this whole green bro i'm getting in the fucking hole now but you're buying into this
green energy uh which is bullshit concept okay uh it's all about taking everything from oil and gas
to green which all these motherfuckers passing the laws own okay this is all greed it's all
fucking greed well that's the
funny thing it's like you're they always like um portray like the the businessman as the greedy
person but yet these you look at these politicians who are supposedly public servants who all are
worth like you see like what these people like nancy pelosi's worth what hundreds of millions
of dollars and you're like she's been uh she's in congress her whole life yeah like what your whole life she's a fucking idiot yeah like so what what exactly so but that's
not greed like all these other the clintons were literally their jobs were just being public
servants since i was a little kid they're worth over a hundred million dollars you know it's like
oh okay no there's actually a lot of greed there except the difference is that they make their
money without contributing anything to their fellow man and somehow that's
supposed to be like the i don't know those are the servants and yet the people who have to like
contribute in order to make their money are the greedy ones it's so upside down honestly the more
i'm sorry the more i get people don't even understand where the irs really came from like
i just did a little fucking digging bro i honestly i say fuck it zero i'm on
the zero tax train now there you go in in 1862 that's when the irs started right lincoln put it
in and it was put in to to raise money for the war right it was in for 10 years they took it out
the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional yeah because it fucking is because it fucking is well
it was so clear i mean and, and back then, you got
to think that like, this is, you know,
so you're talking about in 1862,
the war's over in 1865,
right? So this is not, I mean,
okay, it's later, but it's not that far
removed from like when the Constitution was ratified.
You know what I mean? Like it's, and so
there's still kind of, and then they also just had
major constitutional questions
around the Civil War because there was kind of like this thing where look slavery was not outlawed by the
constitution although the slave trade had been ultimately but then also there was this very
interesting constitutional battle where it's like well look the south said they want to leave the
union and lincoln said no you can't and we'll fight a war to bring you back in.
And this does raise, now, obviously, we all go, look, the slavery thing is really bad.
And you want to do whatever you can to abolish slavery, the worst thing in American history.
But at the same time, you have this situation where, like, well, look, we're the United States of America because these states decided to come together to be in a union. Are you really saying that?
Are you saying they're not allowed to leave? Like, they they're not and so there were a lot of questions about that and then at least the
supreme court is like and wait a minute we can tax your income now right like is it like all
these questions and so this and the supreme court said yeah no of course you can't actually do this
that was a war this is over and then who brought it back woodrow wilson actually came back in 1913
along with something else well that's right well it's woodrow wilson
yeah who came in in 1912 as the president the federal reserve and the income tax and then a
few years later we're in world war one and this is really what set up like i would argue this is what
set up the 20th century for all of the disasters that followed fuck it on my call it okay it also
well it also uh uh inadvertently ended up up leading to the rise of the Soviet Union and
the rise of the Nazis,
particularly our involvement in world war one,
which a lot of the smart,
like the conservative wing of the Republican party back then were the guys
who were really like,
no,
you don't do this.
Do not get in it.
This is a war between European monarchs.
It's not our business.
We don't need this.
The whole point of America,
right?
What Adams said famously was that, I butcher the quote, but it was like, he goes, if America ever goes looking, searching for monsters to destroy, we'll become the dictress of the
world, but we'll lose our own soul.
As he was basically saying, you'll go around there, you'll dominate the world, but you'll
know, you won't be America anymore.
You won't be the land of the free.
No, we'll be where we've been for the last 50 fucking years which is the fucking armed police of the fucking world
which is not what the fuck we do bro all of our sons and daughters that have died for the last
60 70 years and our they've all died for fucking literally nothing yeah they have not died for
american causes this idea of bro the reason reason we have this suicide problem with veterans is not because
the trauma of having to go kill bad guys.
It's because when they, and by the way, this is what the fuck they talked to me about.
They come back, they come back and they say, fuck, bro, I just went and did some really
bad shit for some really bad motherfucking people.
And that's why we have this suicide problem with fucking combat vets yeah all right it's not right it's not because
it's not because they're they realize they got fucking played yeah it's not because they killed
uh bad guys it's because they realized they got duped into being the bad guys that's right and
that's and like that's and it's it's kind of like it's sad as fuck yeah it's hard oh it's like the
worst thing in the world and they don't even like they don't even because these are good people that bought into
the idea that like bro freedom america these are our strongest these are our fucking warriors dude
i mean i've talked to like some of these guys and it's like so so tragic and almost always when i
talk to them like by the time they're talking to me they've woken up you know all this stuff
but they go like it's like oh why did you join and so many of the
time the reasoning is like well i was like if uh you know they said we got to fight him over there
so we don't fight him over here and he'd be like well my baby sister's over here so i'm gonna go
over there so that my baby sister doesn't get like they're the the motive was like because i'll go
fight and kill someone to protect my little sister you know what i mean i'll go fight and kill someone
to protect my family and then they realize after a i'll go fight and kill someone to protect my
family and then they realize after a while that like i had nothing to do with that right iraq was
never coming over here to get you iraq had nothing to do with anything they just for like for george
w bush's own beef and for the neocons own agenda they wanted to take saddam hussein out and so they
knew well we got our moment now everyone's
everyone's uh you know pissed off about 9-11 we could use that and sell this war yeah i don't
know how loyal to the foyer you are right but they're there i flirt okay all right you dabbled
a little bit a little you got saddam qaddafi uh putin hitler jfk you got all these five guys they
all have something in common as a common denominator and is that they were trying to remove their people from a central bank what are your thoughts on
that well i think there's there's differences between all of those people and what they did
to piss off you know like uh the the powers who ultimately went to war with them i'd say um look
there's i i don't know you know what the answer to this is, but there's definitely something
interesting about the relationship between what's known as the petrodollar and the push
for all of these wars in the Middle East and Northern Africa.
And basically, so in 1972, 73, Nixon takes us off the gold standard.
And this is because we printed way more money than we actually had to back it up with gold
in the 60s.
It caught up with us.
The French were coming in saying, we're going to redeem all of our dollars in gold.
That was going to deplete us of gold.
So they went off the gold standard.
And then within that same decade in the 70s, he has Henry Kissinger go over to Saudi Arabia,
make the deal that they'll only trade oil and dollars.
So now you kind of have this switch where, okay, you can't redeem your dollars for gold,
but you kind of can redeem them for oil. And now it kind of props up the US dollar.
And this is a big part of how the US domination of the world kind of continued.
It is true that Saddam Hussein was talking a bunch about going
off of of the u.s dollar and not paying the dollar to his oil it's true that gaddafi was
talking about forming his own the own like muslim currency thing and backing it up with gold and it
is true that then these people found a knock at their door from the u.s military now i don't know
exactly how related that is you know who else
is doing that currently putin russia russia china okay who else did it in history hitler hitler did
it yeah okay we have to legitimately question some of the operations that have taken place across history. How many people here listening
actually know what happened
between World War I and World War II?
They omit that information from school.
They don't teach us.
And the reason they don't teach us
is because they write the motherfucking history
the way they want it.
And none of you were alive in 1945.
You may have been, but I doubt it.
Okay.
We have to start questioning fucking everything.
Because the reality is, if the last...
And by the way, that is not some Nazi sympathizer shit.
What I'm saying is, these people have had free reign for literally
hundreds of years to tell us any motherfucking story that they want right and there's and there's
like lies of omission too right so it's not even that you know like is why in court they say do you
will you tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but because it's just as bad to have a
lie of omission like if i if i'm in court and i just go like uh well what's the story i go well
well the story is andy shot a guy yeah and then you go well what else goes you go oh well he was
charging him with a gun you're like oh okay well that's a really important detail that kind of
changes everything about the criminal nature of this um so what they do is they they you know
what history like teaches everybody is the crimes of the nazis which are all
real and inexcusable and horrible a hundred percent were an awful brutal regime but what
they don't tell you about is like you're saying is like the domination of the german people in
under the treaty of versailles and aft in in post-world war one decimation of the entire country
why weren't we told this why aren't we ever told the exact story of everything
that happened so that we can understand because they don't want us to fucking know so they can
continue to do whatever they want well and and and also because it's like it's and this is the
stuff that ron paul was talking about when he first like converted me to being a libertarian
it's that it's not again because i know even like you kind of like said a second ago to like be like
yeah this isn't like apologizing for the naz Nazis because you almost know like what the game is, what they accuse you of doing.
But what it is is understanding what happened here.
And so it's not obviously no one thinks that genocide is justified, but you also understand, oh, these were the conditions that led to it happening.
What about the 10 other genocides that have happened that no one talks about? But also understanding that it's like, look, if you don't understand cause and effect,
even if you're saying the problem is that we got this end result, you're like, okay,
but what laid the groundwork for this?
And this was Ron Paul's real point was that he said, he goes, look, like, you know, and
then they, of course they'd all go, oh, so you're apologizing for 9-11 or whatever.
He'd go, look, this narrative, which was the narrative at the time coming out of the president's mouth was they hate us for our freedom
and he's like but look if you just read what osama bin laden wrote in his declaration of war against
america none of it said he hated us for our freedom with that it wasn't it was you know pat
buchanan said once i think it was so funny to me because they uh he goes that uh george bush acted
like osama bin laden stumbled on a copy of the bill of rights in the desert somewhere and
was like, what? They have freedom over there. But he's like so specific about what he's like,
okay, here's why I hate you. Number one, you prop up the Israeli government who oppresses
the Palestinian people. Number two, you have your military bases in our holy land in the arabian peninsula number three you use those military bases to uh enforce your
blockade against iraq and hundreds of thousands of children have died in there number four your
bombing campaigns number five the dictator in egypt who you prop up not like all of it is about
our foreign policy and so like and the response is not even willing to. And then the response is,
oh, so you think we invited 9-11?
Oh, so you think we deserve 9-11?
It's like, no, no, no.
I'm saying that this policy
has an effect
what the CIA calls blowback.
And if you're not willing
to acknowledge that,
then you're never going to understand
what's going on here.
Like, that's just reality.
What does the average American believe?
Like, what do you guys think happens
when we send our troops
to a country on the other side of the world
and for 20 fucking years
we kill all their fucking men?
We fucking rape their women
because that shit happens.
Okay?
Nobody talks about that.
Hold on.
We allow their women to be raped by other men of that
country what do you think the kids who are seven eight nine years old when that starts how do you
think they feel about america when they're 30 you don't you're not understanding what's happening
what if someone what if the chinese military, for sake of argument, came and invaded America,
which is a very real situation if we don't get our shit together.
But let's just say they come and you have an eight-year-old son.
And they see the Chinese come in and the chinese fucking kills you you're the
dad rapes the mom fucking terrorizes and causes all kinds of destruction and pain
what do you think that eight-year-old kid's going to grow up to think about the chinese government
yeah they're going to grow up with a fucking burning hatred for these people well yeah i mean just and just, and it's like the perfect analogy that you're using, right?
If you even like take it like one step further, right?
So China invades, they kill a whole bunch of innocent people.
They overthrow the elected president of the United States and they install a pro-Chinese
president.
And then they're just like, we're going to dominate you in the militaries, in the streets,
telling you when you can leave your house and when you can't what would your average texan be doing they'd be running out
there committing what they would call acts of terrorism right domestic terror i bet but they'd
really be doing it not just the pretend one you know what i mean like they'd be doing that and
you know what i bet they'd probably scream something about their god too right before they
did it my point is they'd basically be yelling be yelling Allah Akbar before they blew up themselves to take out a few of the Chinese with them.
So it's very easy for us to look down and just kind of-
And say, oh, those people are crazy savages.
Yes, but you know what?
We would be the same type of crazy savages if anyone ever came and did that to us.
Dude, 100%, man.
And again, it's like people, whenever you talk about any of this stuff, people try to caricature and twist what you're saying.
It's like that's what they said to Ron Paul, Chris Wallace.
His response to him when he said all this was he goes,
so you're saying we deserved the 9-11 attacks?
It's like, no, dude, no one's saying the innocent people deserve to die.
The point is that those other innocent people over there didn't deserve to die either.
And so it's like really think about and right now the thing is like with what's going on with with uh
um with the situation in ukraine with russia it's like dude like it's just so recklessly
provoking like a nuclear armed power but this is like this is not a game like i don't i think it's
horrible that innocent people in ukraine are dying yeah the truth is like whether um whether ukraine is ruled by kiev or moscow is just not an american concern
now i'm not saying that's not as a human being you don't root for every i root for everyone to
be free and for no innocent people to die but the idea that two nuclear powers should have a
conflict over this and we should be sending weapons in to prolong the conflict. When the dude
who's already
by all means
pretty fucking on edge is saying
hey don't send those motherfucking weapons
over here. I'll fucking nuke you
motherfuckers. Do you really
think this motherfucker
is like
running around the Russian woods in the middle
of winter with no fucking shirt on bro
like do you really think he's playing he's not fucking playing dude and i'm not saying
there's a reason that him and trump got along you guys think it's because a lot of i don't think
this but a lot of people who are trump critics believe it's because Trump is just as bad as Putin. That is your little smooth brain,
not fucking doing the calculations.
There's a reason why Trump was able to connect with fucking Kim Jong-un.
There's a reason why he was able to connect and get the respect of Vladimir
Putin.
It was not because he's some Putin puppet.
It's because they respect that he's got a big set of fucking balls and they're not going
to be able to fuck with us.
If, if they do, they will be fucked with back.
It's what we talked about earlier.
No, it's natural order.
It goes back to natural order, bro.
You know, in real life, who to fuck with and who not to fuck with.
Like, yeah, just know, like, you know, that there's people that you are going to walk
up to and you're going to say some shit and they're not going to hesitate to knock your fucking teeth out.
It's just reality.
And we have to have strong leadership.
And if we're talking about one of the problems that I see with libertarianism is that we all because I consider myself mostly that like if I had to label myself, I would say that I'm that.
We all believe in this idea of live and let live.
But the problem is these motherfuckers don't.
And they're trying.
And that's what got us here.
That's right.
And the weakness of the libertarian party,
in my opinion,
is the understanding that live and let live only works when there are strong
boundaries established.
Oh yeah.
I think,
well,
I agree with that completely.
I think that's a flaw in the way some libertarians kind of present their ideas and think about
it.
No, look, the flip side to believing people have natural rights is that those rights have
to be protected.
That's right.
And often with force.
Yes.
And that you have to be prepared.
Yeah.
I mean, it doesn't mean anything.
If I go, hey, this is my house.
And you take it. But if you take it, i'm not going to do anything that's not libertarian
well then it's not really my house it doesn't exist right it doesn't exist it's like you know
like live and let live is kind of like a condition it's like live and let live so long as you're all
we're all in agreement that you know like we all have rights that you can't violate and if there
are people who are and there always will be then yeah that needs to be met with like force that is
you know in defense of of liberty i think the question is just like whether the force should
be in defense of liberty or aggression you know what i mean like far too often whether it's like
look with america i just think far too often we've gotten out in front both with our military and
just like with policing in general there's over the last 40 years, say it's like, it was like far
too much like aggression rather than defense. And even, and now you see like, right with like
kind of the flip that we've had in the way policing is being done in America. Now you're
almost seeing like the other side of what you were just talking about where you're not using defensive force.
So we had 40 years of a war on drugs where we're putting people in jail for decades long sentences for having a substance that the federal government deemed illegally.
It's like insane.
Breaking up families, like locking people up like they're a fucking murderer or rapist for the crime of like having a couple ounces of pot that maybe they were like giving away to some friends too or selling or whatever you know like insanity and to now you're seeing
like the flip side of that like these progressive prosecutors like well we're not going to do that
anymore but we're also not going to arrest you if you commit violent crimes you're a car jack
or and you're like well this is insane too we will arrest the person who stands up for himself
right and shoots no we'll throw the book at that person.
So that's the flip side of it.
It's an intentional destruction of our fucking society. But the clear balance is that it's like you have to protect people and property.
And if you do more than that, you're tyrannical.
And if you do less than that, you're destabilizing insane like you're you're anti
civilization i mean as soon as like people like if people can't feel comfortable that like
obviously there's always going to be some amount of violent crime you never completely get rid of
it but there has to be some level of expectation that there are consequences for violent crime
and that you can defend yourself from violent crime. And if you take those things away,
then we go from being a civilization
to being in a really dangerous, uncivilized,
you know, unstable situation very quickly.
Bro, if it was up to me, I say this all the time, man.
I am a pro-freedom, liberty guy.
But the minute, and by the way,
I'm a victim of violent crime.
I've had violent crime
done to me um so i have some experience with that i've been stabbed in the fucking face i don't know
how many of you guys have gotten stabbed in the fucking face but i'm guessing probably not too
many of you um if i had my way with violent crime these motherfuckers would fucking go away forever ever bro we cannot it would be singapore around here
okay you litter or cane in your ass in the middle of fucking street people need to be afraid like
singapore is pretty beautiful listen it's pretty clean people need to be people need to be afraid
of doing harm to their fellow citizens the drug thing thing, I don't give a fuck about.
Sell drugs, do drugs.
That's your life.
I don't really care.
I also believe that they lie to us
about the benefits of certain drugs
like mushrooms and weed and all these things
so they can propagate their fucking pills,
which, by the way,
I just spent the last fucking 60 days, 45 days,
trying to get off of Alexa pro prescription.
I've had for 10 years, which has been literally the hardest fucking thing I've ever done in my
entire life. And I am a mentally strong person. So they built, that's a whole nother topic.
They make it impossible for you guys to get off the shit. So they, they keep getting paid.
That, that should be obvious to you um but at the end of the day
our a civilized society has zero fucking room for murderers for fucking rapists for fucking
any of this violence and you pedophile wood chipper for those motherfuckers
instantly look instantly be first we know we remove those elements from society those for those motherfuckers. Yeah. 100%. Instantly. Look, instantly.
Be first.
No, we remove those elements from society.
Look, you fucking people who live in your fucking white liberal fucking neighborhood at the top of the fucking monetary food chain,
you all feel guilty for fucking falling out of the vagina on third fucking base.
I'm sorry.
I couldn't. I can't fucking help the fact that you didn't ever get to experience
what it's like for real people.
However, you should shut your fucking mouth
when it comes to the sympathy for these violent offenders
because eventually and soon it is going to be you,
and it's going to come to you, and it's going to come to you and it's going to come to your household and you are going to feel insanely stupid for advocating for this kind of people because i
have had experience with these kind of people i've you used to be a police officer there are
certain people even exist listen these are evil people they are not mentally disturbed they are not victims of their upbringing
they are not fucking any of the shit that you fuckers say they are evil as fuck and for us to
have a civil society violent crime should be fucking dealt with a heavy heavy heavy hand well
it's and it's even and even if they are like uh to some degree right like you know like there's
there's pedophiles.
I think a lot of them were victims of pedophilia when they were children or whatever.
Sorry, man.
But it doesn't matter.
They're at the point now.
We don't have a time machine here.
What we can do is protect children from being a victim again from this guy now.
So that's it.
It's like there's got to be a line drawn there.
We've got to stop sympathizing with the fucking reason why and start dealing with what
is here's the thing if you want fucking bacon you gotta understand how it's made
bacon the process of fucking making bacon is not a good one no fucking bloody it's messy it's
fucking so what you're saying pedophile bacon no what i'm saying well no i don't i wouldn't want
that i'm just saying man everybody wants to eat bacon but nobody wants to see how it's made
you want fucking civility but you don't want to see i've always told the truth elect me man i'm a fucking tyrant yeah well i'll
fucking put those motherfuckers straight in the wood chipper i will fucking i will put it listen
i will fucking put it on pay-per-view all these government officials that fucking ruined our shit
they will be tried they will be put on fucking pay-per-view and we will fucking hang them and
the motherfuckers who fucking do the pedophilia and do the violent crime there will be put on fucking pay-per-view and we will fucking hang them and the motherfuckers who
fucking do the pedophilia and do the violent crime there will be a dedicated pay-per-view
channel that you can subscribe to well all of the guys listen i am there for these pay-per-views
but particularly also for like i think all the guys i'm being serious like like dude this is
real this is real shit yeah we take the money and we give it to the fucking victims
families who the fuck would not be with that i like it i want to get fauci's trial up there i
want to get all these guys one all these guys uh uh all the lockdown governors and stuff like that
i mean just like have absolutely just declared themselves many dictators and made it a crime
for people to work i'm sorry you're a dictator now you're like
this is violation there's so much crimes we don't have kings and queens here bro no no we don't do
it we have to be real dude this what happened over the last two and a half years was the most
treasonous event that has ever happened in the united states of america no it's and people are
afraid to use that term because they're afraid. Motherfucker, that's what the fuck it was.
We had a shit ton of people who acted in the interest of not our American citizen,
who sold our American citizens down the fucking drain,
and they did it intentionally for their own benefit.
Yeah.
I mean, think of it.
It's one of the greatest crimes that has ever been perpetrated on the American people by their own government was just the lockdowns.
Bro, it's worse.
Forget even the rest of that.
To make it a crime to work if you were not deemed to breathe the air if you were
if you weren't deemed essential that you couldn't to make it a crime to go have a funeral for your
father all these things and at the time they were doing that then to rape the america to loot the
treasury and just bail out all of their rich friends and let let let all the big
companies that their buddies with stay open while they close the businesses of all the hard-working
americans let criminals out there's millions of businesses that will never fucking come back
because of this all right people's lives are ruined we don't know the implications of the
long-term vaccine damage that's happening it's they finally
came out and said oh ivermectin actually works there was a fucking data point that came out of
the fucking pentagon in april of 2020 that showed that ivermectin worked and they fucking de-platform
they put simone gold in fucking jail the frontline doctor who said this shit.
Okay?
They killed motherfuckers.
And, dude, how many...
Listen, dude, I truly believe that what we are living through, the greatest crime, and why I say living through,
is because we do not understand the five, ten-year implications of the medication that they fucking forced on people.
Okay? the five, 10 year implications of the medication that they fucking forced on people. Okay.
And I believe my, and I, I bet pretty fucking high average motherfucker.
Like if I was in the major leagues, I'd be in the hall of fucking fame.
I think we are living in right now.
The greatest crimes against humanity has ever been perpetrated against the entire fucking world.
And people say, well, what about, what about, uh, what about the whole of the Moors? What about the Holocaust? What about fucking Rwanda? what about what about uh what about the
holdemores what about the holocaust what about fucking rwanda what about this what about that
what about this that's gonna pale in comparison to the damage and death and destruction that this
narrative and this fucking world economic forum shit pushed on the entire world and by the way
all those fucking people that we mentioned, those leaders,
Kim Jong-un,
fucking Putin,
fucking Brazil dude,
Trump, what do they all have in common?
They're not in with those
motherfuckers.
You know why Putin and fucking Trump get along?
Because they understand what the World Economic
Forum is doing and what they're doing
to the world. Kim Jong-un, fucking tiring piece of shit bro in in north korea those people
actually believe that the entire world wants to kill north korea they live in yeah total fear all
the time totally wrong still not globalist still not global yeah well right and it comes down to
it's just a matter of like they're
not in the game with like that look that's what it is right it's like there's the emerald i'm about
to move to brazil i ain't even fucking playing well it's getting interesting you guys come for
me i'll be in brazil i'll be up there with uh what's his name bolsonaro bolsonaro yeah well
but look it's like even like the way they talk about uh say certain countries like iran for years right that's basically the crime that the iranians have committed they're not a
part of the empire that's it and it's not you know they use all these excuses like oh my god i think
they're going to develop nukes they're never developing nukes they don't have any nukes this
was never even like a thing they go oh they treat their people so horrible it goes saudi arabia
treats their people way more horrible than iran treats their people but they're totally fine because saudi arabia is in the empire and iran
is not in the empire and so that's kind of what the whole thing comes down to i think that a lot
of it was like with qaddafi and saddam hussein too is like that was kind of their big crime
like this after 9-11 where is that bush goes uh names the uh what is it the access of uh evil he calls it he goes around iraq and
north korea three countries that had nothing to do with 9-11 absolutely nothing there's zero
connection from any of those countries to 9-11 not a single one of the terrorists was from any
one of those countries what organization did those countries not belong to it's the world
listen bro this is going to all be traced back to
this world economic forum shit it's right now you motherfuckers need to be watching uh king charles
okay fucking douchebag and claude schwab douchebag number one i don't know who's worse all right but
those two dudes have been friends for 60 fucking years okay so this this thing that's happening over in england there's there's
a lot to this if you noticed i don't did you catch his first speech we need a military style
operation to bring in the new economic system really all right yeah well i'll tell you hopefully
there's enough people who wake up to this because like you have seen and this is where there's been little glimpses of light in the last two and a half years is you have seen moments where things that they clearly planned were rolled back just because people were not taking it. that i mean this became the law of the land in cities all around the country that you had to show
proof of vaccination to enter restaurants to enter uh stadiums and stuff like this and there was just
so much pushback to it that they they just kind of dropped it yeah you guys are all welcome for
that shit but it is you know so this is what we need to cancel all their fucking in stadium
advertising because a certain organization was requiring fucking vaccine passes to get in.
Motherfucker.
All of you people should be doing that shit.
Well, that's and that's exactly like that's what we need is like.
So if we because if we want to survive this, this isn't even a matter anymore of just being like, look, this is this would be a better way to live.
Or we I you know, I prefer a libertarian society to this.
This is like this is
a survival mechanism at this point we need look we need some type some type of libertarianism
whatever you want to we need some type of liberty in this country or this thing is going to collapse
and you know it's like it can't keep going in this direction. All the, dude, 80% of people are not with this shit.
Yeah.
I believe it's more like 90%.
Being real.
It was 80% when they were running polls on CNN or whatever, and 80% of people said they
wouldn't support businesses that impose vaccine passports.
That shows you.
That's a stat they shouldn't have ever put out.
Yep.
Okay.
Another thing that shows you is what exactly happened.
Like,
did you guys catch all those videos of all the people on the airplanes?
The very minute they said no more mass that showed you the real percentage.
It was unbelievable.
I was there the first weekend they did it.
I was flying.
It was like 80% of people. Remember the videos where they like said guys no more massive airplanes
and like people fucking cheering shit yeah that shows you the re the real ratio they have used
technology they've used bots they've used all this fake shit that elon musk just exposed um
80 of Twitter bot.
Potentially 80% of Twitter is bots and fake accounts. It's insane.
Potentially.
Okay.
Potentially.
They've used all this shit to make you guys believe that everybody's with this shit.
When in fact is most people are not.
But the problem is, is that most people are lacking the courage to stand up to the fucking loud minority.
Yeah.
And that's where we need to change course.
And regardless of what you believe, if you're a traditional Democrat, if you're a libertarian, or if you're a Republican, or whatever, you have to stand up to this progressive fucking bullshit.
A hundred percent.
The only issue, though, is that, yes, I think I agree.
More people are becoming more resisted or resistful, I guess.
Well, hold on.
The problem is.
Hold on.
I want to ask him about this because, because I want to stay on this real quick.
My, my, my observation in my like 10,000 foot, like sort of like seeing what's going on.
Like, you know, you know you you you recognize they pull
back right i see them now because we wouldn't take that part of it stepping on the accelerator
now because i think their plan was oh shit this isn't working what we fucking thought and so now
they're going extra hard and i see i think it's uh this is what what i
think is that basically i think the covid narrative collapsed yeah and so the covid regime
has essentially they're accepting defeat and moving into the climate change yes well and this
is where the major push is going to come yes as i i was predicting this but in march of 2020 i'm
far from the only one who was saying that.
But it just seemed obvious to me that it's like,
oh, well, if you can justify lockdowns over this virus,
well, look, lockdowns are going to be great for carbon emissions going down.
And now everybody's out buying electric shit.
Right.
And now they're coming in with all of these heavy pushes,
which is just, I mean, how much time you want to get into it.
But the whole thing is insane.
First off, the whole climate whole thing is insane the whole first
off the whole climate alarmism is insane it's like a non-existent problem not only is it it's not
even enough to say it's a non-existent problem it's the greatest thing that's ever happened in
the world is fossil fuels like literally the greatest thing that's ever happened to humanity
is the fact that we burn fossil fuels and it's given us a standard of living that even our grandparents couldn't have dreamed of.
You know what I mean?
It's like it's and they're trying to.
So I think that in a sense, there was a small victory.
They've receded kind of like a wave, but it's coming back.
And so now we got to be ready for the next wave.
But hopefully it's this weird kind of like you know like sometimes things have to get
really bad for people to wake up yeah and that's an unfortunate thing you know what i mean sometimes
people things have to get really bad before people go yeah you know what we can't have this again
and i think that oh over the last two years really over the last five years but particularly
like through the trump administration but really through the covid you years, but particularly through the Trump administration,
but really through the COVID years,
the establishment has really discredited itself in a way with regular Americans
that I think is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life before.
I think that people are at this point,
the jig is kind of up.
That average people know that like, no no no no it's not
there's not even a debate anymore to like is cnn telling you the truth there's not a debate anymore
to like is the government actually working based off the science is any of this really being done
for you and so that i think is very is is um I think it's a very good sign that perhaps now when they try to do this for
climate,
at least the masses are going to know going into it.
That it's like,
Oh no,
no,
no,
this isn't real.
This isn't real.
Just like all of this stuff.
You know,
when you see now they show you that the lockdowns didn't even mitigate the
virus at all.
It didn't,
it didn't,
it did nothing.
It did.
You destroyed all these people's lives for nothing.
I knew that was going to happen.
Bro, they knew.
Listen, do you really think these motherfuckers would produce a fucking virus
and put it out there not knowing that there's an effective therapeutic?
What the fuck do you think?
They're not that stupid.
They're not going to put something out that they could potentially get.
There's no fucking treatment for.
I guarantee you, bro, none of those motherfuckers took that vaccine i also guarantee you that every motherfucking time they got sick while they're yelling at joe rogan and saying joe
rogan is the fucking antichrist for taking ivermectin and he sucks horse dicks and all this
other shit they were saying about him uh they were taking the shit the whole time it was so funny
the funniest thing about it was that he beat it in a day i don't they're all like mocking him for
it and then he's like the next day he's like fine he's back to work on a picture of him do you
remember that shit on the video they put a filter on bro you see when he had uh when he had that
dude the the cnn doctor came on his show yeah drpta, and he goes to him and he's like,
and the doctor goes like,
yeah, he goes,
well, are you going to get the vaccine?
And Rogan's like, no,
I just had COVID
because I have natural immunity right now, right?
Isn't that stronger than the vaccine?
And he's like,
yeah, yeah, it is stronger.
He's like, why would I get the vaccine
if I already have something
that's stronger than the vaccine?
Paul just got fucking Fauci on there.
And he has nothing.
He's got no argument.
They don't even have an argument
for why you should get the vaccine. vaccine on the ramp all just got falchi on oh yeah because
he found the old clip that was beautiful yeah i found that clip that people were sharing it on
twitter i tweeted that a while ago but yeah it's falchi uh back being a young epidemiologist when
he's a young tyrant yeah and he was uh some he was just doing a call-in show like on c-span or
whatever and
someone called in and this woman goes you know i wanted to ask you if you think i should get the
flu shot because i just had the flu and it was so awful i just don't want to get the flu again so
should i get a flu shot and fauci just told the truth because he actually knows a thing or two
about science and he wasn't trying to sell anything so he just goes oh no ma'am like you
have nothing to worry about because if you just got the flu then you're you're actually having natural immunity to at least this year's fucking
got to that month yeah and i wonder how much money he got well did you see i know exactly
did you see when ran paul asked him that they found out so grandpa grilled him on this uh that
they found out from like a freedom of information uh act that pharmaceutical uh companies had paid
out royalties of something it was like 135 million
dollars and so like 50 different scientists and he goes well you he goes well do you think like
that the sign will the scientists at the nih like you know like release like who's got who
received this money did you receive any of this money and he just basically wouldn't answer the
question they have been just like nowpoena that information from us.
Not only that.
They keep redacting it and refusing to answer it.
It's even more than that, too, bro.
The White House actually was paying the media stations to run those fucking stat trackers and all that shit.
Yeah, there's big, big money being made in all these ways.
It's just incredibly corrupt.
By the way, if the White House was paying it, that means you fucking pay for it just so you know because they don't produce
shit bro are we all paying we're like we have been paying for our own fucking confusion and
frustration and fucking misery we've been paying for all of it well listen you know that's like
you were asking me before like what the uh kind of like impediments to to libertarianism is and
just a more freedom in our society in general and like look
one of the major ones is that they have uh for a very long time now they they've really controlled
the means of communication and information yeah and you know look i mean like the government runs
the schools that our kids are educated in not my kids but you know and like there are ways to opt
out and not send your kids into those schools but like in general i mean they kind of have like a monopoly on teaching kids from
kindergarten through 12th grade you know and like there's uh there's you see now as people are
starting to wake up to like oh my god some of the shit that they're teaching them there is like whoa
this is really propaganda oh yeah that's that's a big part of how you get a society like this
documentary agenda too now i highly recommend it to watch it because that's a big part of how you get a society like this documentary
agenda too now i highly recommend it to watch it because there's a part in there where the guy he
was giving a speech at like this local little community center right and this dude's and he's
talking about communism talking about so how they're using how they're using the uh the school
agenda the green agenda to push communism into a world government all of that indoctrinating kids
right and he says that uh during during talk, this guy has stood up.
And he's like, you know, listen, I want to applaud you and commend you for everything you've discovered.
Because you're right.
You're spot on.
You're absolutely right.
But I'm actually a professor at the local community college.
I'm a communist.
And we will win.
And walk the fuck out.
Wow, that's interesting.
You know what I'm saying?
Bro, the shit's in it's a really
really he basically said like man dude i'm impressed that you were able to uh figure all
of this out but it's already too late yeah yeah well if when you see it right like there are these
kind of parallels between it's it's like neo-communism of some sort it's not exactly
the original version you know but like when you see what karl marx so i think that's how karl marx said is thinking that it's not the original well it's it's
it's i mean there's like you know what i'm saying similarities here right but like when karl marx
would talk about how basically the entire like all of human history the entire world is class
struggle and so everything was in his opinion you know between the bourgeois and the proletariat there was like the working class versus the the you know they exploited and the exploiters and
you know and i mean you see this like the cultural version of this now it's just like all around you
where you go yes this is the narrative right that like whites are the oppressors blacks are the
oppressed straights are the oppressors gays are the oppressed men are the oppressors women are
the oppressed you know cis are the oppressors trans businesss are the oppressors gays are the oppressed men are the oppressors women are the oppressed you know cis are the oppressors trans business owners are the
oppressors yes right it's like they constantly use this kind of like framing and what this justifies
is then like the idea that like oh so then like it's completely justified that no no everything
is ill-gotten gains anything you have isn't really yours you didn't really
earn it you didn't really make that and so then we're kind of justified in like basically
collectively taking everything from you and there's certainly i mean there's no question that
the the whole green energy climate change thing is a it's a war on capitalism you know but it's
a war on civilization in a sense
you know i use this as an example sometimes but i know people like the chinese government is creepy
as hell and don't get me wrong about that um although they're not as bad as like mao se tong
and what they were when they were like full a full communist so being quasi party you know fascist
now or whatever they are. But the greatest thing
debatably in the history of humanity happened over the last 30 years in China and India and
other parts of Asia, is there's a billion people who were pulled out of extreme poverty. These are
people who were starving to death, who have been pulled out of extreme poverty. And it's all
because they let their markets be a little bit more free they let people start businesses they let people own property they let a little bit of capitalism
into the system and the result of this was that their their burning of fossil fuels won't weigh up
because that's what happens as as economies expand and so it's like to these climate activists they're
like oh no like you know carbon footprint is going up but that's that means children not dying
in the streets you know like what could be more anti-human than to be like against like the thing
that leads to people like not living in extreme poverty and and the other thing and then they
just make it out like they kind of put it out there almost like we could just choose
to not use fossil fuels and to use green energy instead.
The fact is that that's not true.
The kids mining the fucking lithium in the fucking mines.
There's just not enough energy. It's just not true.
Maybe someday some brilliant
entrepreneur will invent a new way to do
this. Maybe someone already did and they
fucking killed them.
That's quite possible too.
That is quite possible.
Right now, if we were to switch off of fossil fuels, we would have a too um that which is you know that is quite possible but there's not like right now there's
if we were to switch off of fossil fuels we would have a in unthinkable crash in our standard of
living that's the intent the intent the the intent of this green shit and the reason they're stepping
on the accelerator is because they want everybody out there to go fucking full green get a green car all this fucking bullshit and to have the entire fucking
grid collapse our entire lives go back to the stone age hunter and gatherer and them roll in
and fucking offer their new solution which by the way it's called the fucking great reset there's a
book about it you should probably read let's get get on with the show. Yeah, I'm going to say, yeah.
We're from sleeping on the floor.
Now my jewelry box froze.
Fuck a bowl, fuck a stove.
Counted millions in the cold.
Bad bitch, booted swole.
Got her on bankroll.
Can't fold, doesn't know.
Head shot, case closed.