REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 44. My "Black Square"

Episode Date: June 2, 2020

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -Martin Luther King Jr. On today's show, Andy and the guys address the death of George Floyd, the protest & riots happening right now, and the role the media is playing in trying to divide and conquer us as Americans.

Hey guys, normally we do a normal intro. I recorded this after the podcast was recorded because I want to warn you that it gets really fucking fiery and I want to warn you that you're going to hear some language and I want to warn you that you're going to hear some real passion and I also want you to understand that this is our attempt to get some fucking reason and some truth out in the world. I'm disgusted by what's going on in this world. I'm disgusted by what's going on with the George Floyd murder. I'm disgusted with what's going on with the violence and the burning and the anarchy and the manipulation and the exploitation. I'm fucking tired of it.

And so what I ask is that you listen to this podcast all the way through before you reserve your judgment. You might hear some things that you don't agree with. You might hear some things that aren't exactly what you wanted to hear or what you think need to be said. But I want you to know that this is the best I fucking got. And it comes from the heart. And so listen to the whole thing. If you think I'm a piece of shit after you hear it, that's fine. I can live with that, but listen to it and listen to what we have to say and listen to the conversation. And before you reserve judgment on people, listen, the reason

we're in this situation is because people don't fucking listen to each other anymore. This is your chance to change that. Listen, I love you guys. Here's the show. Today's going to be a little bit different. This is an impromptu message, discussion of points and topics. I've got my brother here. I've got DJ here. Vaughn's not here, but we were sitting around talking about this, what's going on right now in America, which is right in the middle. You know, for those of you who are going to be listening to this two years from now,

three years from now, we're right in the middle of this George Floyd. I don't know what to even call what we have going on right now. No, that was a murder. I'm not saying that. That was a fucking murder. That's not what I'm saying. I'm talking about the whole fucking, the whole thing.

Okay? There's a lot of points to this. And I've been asked over and over and over again, you know, what's your take? When are you going to speak up? Well, let me get a couple things out before we get into the show. When I was 25 years old, I would have went straight to social media

and I would have just spouted off everything I thought. Sometimes when we're emotional, it's hard to not do that. And that's something that I've struggled with my whole life. And I've learned through time and making an ass of myself sometimes when I've tried to make points that I didn't understand. That it's just better to wait and collect the data sometimes and just see what's going on. And, you know, we just went through this huge situation where

all of our civil rights were stripped from us. We were told to stay in our house. We were told we were going to die. We were told all these things. And, you know, I came out in the beginning and I told you guys what I thought, and that was proven to be right. Okay. And I came out in the beginning and I told you guys what I thought and that was proven to be right. And I got trashed for it. And it's very hard to come out and speak about things when you see things from a realist perspective, because when it goes against what the masses are doing and it goes against what everybody's screaming at the top of their lungs, we live in a society right now where people shame and bully and pressure people into doing things. And if we want to look at that example today, you know, just today is Blackout Tuesday. And we have literally millions of people in support of what's going on with the protests.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm totally down. But I think posting a black square on one day, while it might be nice and it shows solidarity, I understand that. Where were you guys showing solidarity for the last 10 years? Where were you guys, you know, speaking up during this COVID situation? Where were you speaking up on previous racial situations? And why is it now that if somebody doesn't do this, they're automatically a racist? That's not true. It's just not. And, um, you know, I would point to the history of actions

that people have, you know, done over the last decade of their life. What have you done? What have you done? I can tell you what I've done. I've built probably the most diverse company on the planet. We have people of all races, all backgrounds. Our athletes are people of different races, different colors, different socioeconomic backgrounds, different genders, different sexual orientations. That goes for our employees as well. and we have people from all walks of life we built we've given opportunities and chosen specifically to make our company diverse to show what america really is and so while you might be posting that black square and you might be showing yes yes, I am unified and I

appreciate that. I think that's a great place to start. Remember that your actions and what you do every single day, the tolerance that you have for racism that you see, the tolerance you have for racism that you hear, the looking the other way when someone says something or does something that matters a lot more than you posting a fucking black square today and i'd like to remind all of you of that that's that's really what i would like to start to show with um posting a black square and then going right tomorrow back to your, you know, bikini shots and your this and your that and not giving a fuck. You're part of the problem. OK, and there's a lot of people right now who truly believe in what they're posting.

And there's also a lot of people who are just doing it because they're fucking being intimidated into doing it because they're fearful they'll be called a traitor or racist or this or that and do you really want those people posted that square or would you rather them learn how to take proper actions to correct the world okay so that's my little take on that um we can get right i would like what i would like to do is start with what happened and just go from there. And I would like to get this real clear right up front. What you said a minute ago, that's,

that's what I saw. Okay. Uh, I saw an old, older, indoctrinated white police officer unnecessarily putting force on someone that didn't need to have it and whether it actually killed him on the spot i believe that led to his death regardless of what the autopsy says

and a lot of people are posting the autopsy and saying well he died of a heart attack or he died of this yeah but i also believe that regardless of what he died of, had he not been on the ground for nine minutes with a motherfucker's knee on his neck, he probably would still be alive. And I think everybody can argue that or everybody can agree with that. Now, that's disgusting. And when I saw the video, I knew exactly what the fuck was coming. It disgusted me. I'm sick of seeing it. I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sick of the division. I'm sick of the fucking dude, the lack of leadership

in our police force. The fact that there's three other cops that allowed that man to do that right there, that's wrong. And I think that's a cultural problem in our police community which we're going to address here in a minute I'm one of the biggest supporters of our police force and I don't just support it with a post I support it with fucking money okay and the reason that we do that is because most of the police officers that are out there are great people They are people who work to keep our community safe, to keep order. They care just like you care. The problem is we have a percentage of officers that don't do that and they use the badge to hide behind to create something that shouldn't ever exist, which is basically a lawless bully that's immune from being held

accountable. And that needs to change a hundred percent. That's where I stand on the issue. Now, was that a racist attack that we saw on George? It sure looked like it. It sure looked like it. But how many times has that happen to all citizens how many times does this happen to people of all different colors and all different races and people will argue and say well you know that doesn't matter because this is about black well i actually believe that if we want to solve the issue we have to recognize that yes the race is part of the problem there's race issue that's part of yes, the race is part of the problem. There's race issue. That's part of the problem. There's another part of the problem. There's a part of the problem

where we have an entire police force that actually takes less time to become a policeman than it does to become a fucking barber. Think about that. That's a problem. We have people who are paid very little money that are entrusted to make decisions that can be life, do we really want these kind of people? What kind of people are we attracting when we pay them so little, when we don't train them, when we give them ultimate power? Okay. What kind of people are we attracting to do that job? And I think that's a part of the discussion. I think there's so many parts of this that need to be addressed that nobody really wants to talk about. You know, we need better leadership

among the police forces. We need leaders to step up in the community and create great relationships with the community. We need people to stop with this. We need to intimidate the community bullshit that has been going on literally since the beginning of fucking time. And not just black communities in all communities. We've all seen these guys who are cops, who fucking think they are above the law and they can do whatever they want. And we've all had experiences with it. And all of those experiences are valid.

And all of those experiences need to fucking stop. Alright. I'm sick of seeing black people fucking. I'm sick of having to hear about how. Black parents have to teach their kids. To not run down the street with a fucking hood up. White parents don't have to teach their kids to not run down the street with a fucking hood up. White parents don't have to teach their kids that shit. White parents don't have to tell their kids,

Hey, don't go out and run around because you might get shot by the cops. That isn't taught. And the fact that black people have to teach their kids that that's a fucking problem, regardless of where you stand. And if you're a police officer, you should be embarrassed

and disgusted that that is a real problem you should be the person who stands up now and uses the opportunity to get better uses the opportunity to become a great leader amongst the police uses the opportunity to help squash these fucks that are literally tearing America apart with their rogue actions. And I don't know what the percentage is, if it's 10% or fucking less or more or whatever, 20, I don't know. I don't know. The point is there needs to be a zero tolerance culture adopted among the police that they will not allow these situations to ever fucking happen ever again and i'm down with that okay a hundred percent agree but some of the things i'm not down with is posting uh you know how to riot you know people dropping off pallets of bricks so there can be destruction.

And by the way, those people aren't, they don't give a fuck about black people. Those are the people that want to keep black people exactly where they are. Those are the people that want to manipulate and use the black culture as a tool to create a result that they are looking for politically. And dude, it's time that America wakes up to what is going on. Okay. We have an entire race of people that's being exploited for the benefit of a few. And you wonder who they are. It's the same motherfuckers that just kept us in lockdown for fucking 12 weeks and shut your businesses down.

Oh, and by the way, after we lock everybody down for 12 weeks and get them all nice and fucking pissed off, then we're going to start showing the division and we're going to create these wars and these riots and that we're going to, you know, instigate this. And now it's in the name of this and this and all these different causes and and nobody's talking about it nobody's talking about it nobody wants to say hey we're getting fucking played hey we're getting taken advantage of by the own people that are in power here you know we're being told to vote. Yeah, no shit. But how has the way that you've been voting been benefiting you?

In the black communities, you're told to vote left, left, Democrat. Well, how the fuck is that working for you? Honestly. Are you making more money when they're in there? Or are you getting exploited more? Are people becoming better? Or is it just the same old promises

that never get fulfilled ever? Okay? There's a lot to this. A lot. And racism is part of the problem, but it is not the only problem here i guess that's what i had to say to start so yeah i'm disgusted and yeah i'm fucking mad and yeah i'm demoralized and sad as fuck for the black communities of america this is fucking

bullshit you should never this should never be never be, we should never have gotten, never been to a place, ever, ever, where we have to teach our four and five and six-year-old black children to fucking hide from the cops and to fucking put their, don't put your hoods up, don't put your hands in your pocket or you're going to get shot.

That's not okay. And just sitting there and saying, well, I don't do that. That's not enough. So I agree that people need to speak out. But I also understand when we're being manipulated and when we're being teased and when we're being exploited for a certain group of people. And when you have far left liberal fucking white people invading these protests and getting into these peaceful protests and black communities and then inciting riots and violence to destroy those communities, that is not black lives matter. That is, that is fuck you black people.

That's what that is. And you guys, you black people in your communities who I'm speaking with, and we have a lot to listen to the show. And I love you guys to death. You guys have to fucking wake up. If you want this to change, you have to those. And I've seen it. I've seen the clips. I've seen the peaceful protests. I've seen the love. I've seen the coming together. I've seen all of this. I've seen the, the pro, the peaceful protesters turning over these anarchists to the police. That's the right shit to do. I love the fucking protests. I love that people are marching and I fucking love that we are coming together in this cause. But what I don't love is that there's looting.

What I don't love is that there's more violence. What I don't love is that that shit is being led by people that aren't part of those communities. It doesn't take you very long to go online and to look through everything and see black people who are in their black communities literally devastated because someone else came in their community and burnt the motherfucker down. Now, these people just spent the last three months in fucking lockdown with barely any revenue on their businesses. These black owned businesses, these businesses that are in these residential neighborhoods where minorities live are being fucking burnt down, are being destroyed, are being fucking literally obliterated from the face of

the earth for what what is that doing all it's doing is perpetuating the cycle because the truth is the people who don't believe that everybody's equal are just pointing their motherfucking finger and saying, see, see, see, I told you that's what they were like. And that's got to fucking stop. Everybody has to wake the fuck up. And everybody has to start paying attention to who really has who's back. And it's not the motherfuckers that are just posting a square today. It's people who fucking go out every day and make an effort with their fucking actions to keep this shit out of our world.

This racism and this fucking political control and all of this other bullshit that goes with it. And I'll tell you what, dude. I have half a mind to think that half of this black out the internet shit today comes from people not wanting motherfuckers to go vote in the election. That it's going on today all over the country. How many people even knew there was an election going on all over? Not many. Not from what I can see.

So why would they want to silence us today? We have to start asking important questions. Black people, you need to start asking some real fucking important questions. Like what do we actually believe in? What do we actually want and who the fuck is going to give it to us? And is my opinion just a parroting, a repeating of what someone else is saying? Or is it what I've actually observed? Is it the truth I see? We have a long way to go here, man.

When we have people literally destroying the infrastructure of this country. They just destroyed the economic infrastructure with the COVID fucking ordeal. Now they're destroying the physical infrastructure. Now they're taking away our places of where we live. Now they've created the division division they've destroyed the social infrastructure when are people going to wake up and realize that these fucking far extreme left motherfuckers are

the same ones out there dressed up with goggles and hats and bandanas and fucking you know all black leading these people all over to do all this violent shit. When are you going to realize those people are trying intentionally to destroy America? They're trying to divide and conquer, divide and conquer. Every motherfucker listening to this podcast has heard that before divide and blank and i think it's time that we start to wake the fuck up to the point of yeah we can see they're dividing us we could turn on any media channel and we could see the fucking division there's no peaceful protest shown on tv it's fucking hate. And we need to start asking, why do they want us to hate each other so much? Why? Why do they want us to be enemies?

Why don't they show the peaceful shit? And a lot of people will argue and say, well, that's because violence gets it done. No, it doesn't. We all know it's fucking murder. We all know it's wrong.. We all know it's wrong, but we also have laws here in America. People are mad that he wasn't charged with first degree murder. Well, let's explain what happens when you charge someone like that with first degree murder. First degree murder is premeditated murder, meaning you had a plan to fucking murder someone

and you had the intent to murder someone. So you bring this motherfucker up on first degree murder charges, he goes into court, guess what's going to happen? He's going to be found now fucking guilty. And it's going to cause 10 times the riots, 10 times the frustration. We have to work within the system that's created to fucking bring these motherfuckers to justice. And we need to stop talking with pure emotion and start looking at things that are actually going to solve this. Everybody's mad. Everybody's upset.

Everybody's pissed off. And dude I'm going to tell you what. Nothing's going to fucking change. Until we stop thinking. That making a fucking post. With a motherfucking hashtag on the internet. Is actually doing something. Because it ain't.

Doing something. Is not allowing your fucking racist uncle to tell his fucking racist jokes when it's just you and all your fucking white friends around. Doing something is not letting your old black uncle or your black aunt talk about how shitty white people are. And stopping it. The whole problem here is there's a double standard. There's conversations that happen in private and all cultures that are not talked about publicly. And until we start to stand

up in our own cultures and stop that shit, it ain't ever going to fucking stop. I've worked my fucking ass off to build a company, to build multiple companies that take care and provide opportunities for people of all different races, all colors and all walks of life. And I am fucking proud of that. And if you think me not posting a black square one day makes me some sort of fucking, I don't care. Well, then you're fucking fucking wrong come look at the body of work motherfucker because i promise you won't find a better example of it now we can start the show so what do we think that should be the end of the show i i can't agree more, man. I mean, I, you know, the thing,

and you hit on it and I didn't know if you had seen that video or not, you know, and it was the, the black, the black parents. No, no, no, not, not the, not the, the, not the murder video, the video, the black parents teaching their children, you know, Hey, what do we do when we see a police officer? And you know, it was terrible, dude. No, it's, it's gut wrenching. Cause I think, you know, I always relate back to how would that go in my house? And I couldn't fathom that. You know, I really couldn't. And then I start thinking, and I feel for the 99% of the police officers who were blanketed into this statement that they're all guilty.

You know, it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the whole fucking bunch. And so now, you know, we're allowing the polarizing effect of both parties, right? It's a, it's, it's a few bad people in the rioting looting side speaking for an entire culture. And it's a few bad apples on the police side that speak for an entire force.

And then it creates this division and hatred towards one another. And you said it best. Anybody who watched that fucking video knows what happened. No shit. That's fucking murder. And that motherfucker needs to go to fucking jail and and and he will he might he might not i don't think he will he might not no and that's the problem the problem is tell him dj so i mean and this is a situation where in the past when we've had these issues the problem has always been why the cops get off is because they never charge them with the correct crime. Okay?

Well, Minnesota's a little weird state, right? And they have third degree murder as a charge that they have there. And so I think if you just look at the situation,

he would get charged with that. And he would get convicted of that. It matches the crime. It fits it to a certain degree. Where he's going to get off that is the autopsy reports and not only that the technique that he used was a department approved policy so they taught him to use that they approved that technique he's gonna get off of that now in my opinion if i was that prosecutor what i would have pushed for is manslaughter. No matter whether the department approved that policy or didn't,

that would stick because it's involuntary manslaughter. You use a technique that, yeah, it was approved, but it still caused death. Third degree murder is not going to get it. Second degree murder is not going to get it. First degree murder is not going to get it. And he won't get charged. And the crazy thing is, is all the protests and all the stuff that we're seeing right now. St. Louis City,

for those out here, we're in St. Louis, Missouri. St. Louis City was literally a war zone last night. And when it comes out that he's not going to get indicted on this, it's going to escalate

about 50 times. I mean, dude, I watched Kevin Hart, dude. Like, I watched, Kevin Hart did a great video on this. Talked about all kinds of, dude, I agree with every fucking thing he said. And then he gets to the part and he says, he should be charged with first degree murder. And I'm like, bro, you're not even going to fuck it up.

And I'm like, dude, yeah. Like, we have to understand that those laws that are there have to be worked with that exists. Now, if we want to make new laws, right. Like we're going to make some new laws that show, you know, Hey, that's fine. But the problem is, is we're setting our expectations. Like everybody wants this motherfucker to be publicly executed. Well, the problem with that is if you do that, then what do we have next time there has something? Like what does that do for your freedoms?

Does that mean that if you break the law, that we could just change the law to fucking say, hey, well, this motherfucker did something exceptionally bad. And you know what? We're fucking tired of seeing this, so fuck you. Let's kill him. That can happen to you too. And that's what we're fucking tired of seeing this so fuck you let's kill him that can happen to you too and that's what we're talking about here you think that motherfucker that killed that guy plan on killing that guy i don't fucking see him planning on killing that guy i see him

doing something really fucking stupid for and his other fucking people that were there are just as guilty and they should all go to fucking jail. But he didn't make a fucking plan on a napkin and say, hey, we're going to fucking grab this dude, and we're going to kill him in the fucking street. That ain't what happened. He fucking, dude, and that's why I say it's a culture issue with the police. Most of the police officers, dude, are the fucking serious.

Now, I have some friends who did some time in the fucking, in the clinker. You know, they don't like the cops. I get it. I get it. That's your perspective. But I also have a lot of good fucking cop friends that are good motherfuckers, and they do the right thing regardless of what the other police are doing. So we know a bunch of cops like that because you know what happens with those cops?

What happens to them? They always end up getting in trouble with their fucking departments. And that's where the problem comes from. It's systematic bullshit. We don't pay these motherfuckers enough. They aren't trained enough. Okay. So what do we end up with? We end up with all, a lot of guys on the police force that really are policemen because they just didn't fall in anywhere else. So now they get a gun, they get a fucking power and they do shit like this motherfucker. Now you really want to fix the problem. Here's how you fucking fix it. You change the fucking culture in the police. You make legitimate ongoing training. The fucking hours to get in should triple, not fucking go down half. The pay should fucking double. And we should take some of

this bullshit tax money that gets thrown at all these fucking bullshit causes and put it into our own motherfucking police so that we can actually attract quality fucking individuals to police our communities. Now, people don't like when you say that right now, because they say, well, you're saying we're advocating for more money for the police, blah blah no that's not what i'm saying what i'm saying is we need to wipe the system fucking the way that was and change it and figure out some way of bridging that together into a productive new system here's a way to look at it if you look at a doctor for example doctor goes to school for seven years okay all in all i'm talking about residency fellowship right seven years before they're even allowed to handle human life okay police officers is

pretty standard across the country is about six months of training and then they're given a gun and a badge and the ability to fucking take you from your freedom exactly and that's a big way we talked about that on the walk a while ago that's right people don't realize how much power a police officer actually has and has nothing to do with the gun at all they have the power to take away your constitutional freedom period dude that's about the most fucking powerful thing anybody can really do in this country besides executing someone right there on the spot just and based solely one of my best the best police officer i've ever known he was in start he's an instructor in st louis city uh at the academy he's it's something that's not thought of

but he has the power to do that just on his word and his word alone it's his discretion that's right that that's that's immensely powerful. That's right. Sal, you cannot leave this room. Not only that, get on your fucking face and if you don't, beat the shit out of you. Dude, if we're going to have... Listen, if we're going to give that power to people, those people should be fucking

qualified. I agree. And they should be heavily pre-qualified. You know, I think a couple other solutions to fix community policing. I think this is a great topic. Let's just throw this in there too, DJ. Maybe if you took care of our fucking teachers a little bit better, we'd have some better fucking teachers too. Instead of spending all this tax money and all this fucking bullshit.

100% agree. And special needs and 15 fucking bathrooms at every fucking place. And we actually paid our motherfucking teachers a fair fucking shake we'd attract better teachers yeah i mean you could use it in any way um but the policing topic i mean dude it's a huge one so so so i was in law enforcement and i know a couple of things that i that i saw immediately that i'm like huh that doesn't make sense so in st louis city we're pretty St. Louis City, we're pretty, St. Louis metropolitan area, we're pretty divided. And no, not by color,

but by class for the most part, right? Where you have your areas that are really, really low and you have your more affluent areas and it's really separated. And St. Louis County does this heavily where they have officers who, let's say, live in Fenton, but then they go work in North County in the really, really low SES, high

crime, predominantly black community, and they go and do their eight-hour shift or ten-hour shift there and can do whatever there with all the power that they have and then they get to go home at night and nice and safely behind gates.

We have to bring back community policing. It's huge. I think I'm a huge proponent of living where you work. I'm a huge proponent. I want to be a St. Louis City policeman. Don't you have to live in the city for the first five years? It's still that way, but they just signed it this year

where they're now taking that out. And the purpose behind it was to attract more applicants and stuff like that. I get that, but at the end of the day, when you can go call shit in another part of the fucking world and then go home and be safe and not have to worry about those, those, those consequences, you don't have to deal with that family that just got their dad taken

away and locked up on charges or whatever it is. And it's a problem that that's one step. That's one step. Another thing, dude, I think it could be a quick fix is like you said, you got it. You got to increase the quality of applicants, applicants right most of these guys are young guys whether they came from military backgrounds or whatever it is the education behind it is not big they're not really educated before they even go in i think it should be mandatory for bachelor's degrees whether it's in psychology or sociology knowing how people think how to deal with people criminal justice degrees doesn't get you that and that's just my opinion yeah I think there should be a higher level of standard because

again we're giving people power that nobody else in society has to do these type of things they need to be well educated they need to know the fullest end of that of whatever they're doing it needs to be longer than six months and they need to do more than just than just that it's not dude it needs

to be continuing it needs to be every year dude we come in and we learn more about what's going on in the community and and like how to relate and all of these things that that could create a better fucking society dude like dude it breaks my fucking heart bro that you're getting ready to have a fucking kid. A kid's going to be black, obviously. Well, hopefully. Hopefully. Unless my mailman delivered on Sunday.

I've been over to have Sunday barbecues, man. But I'm just saying, dude, it bothers me immensely that, like, dude, there's probably going to be a day where you have to have a conversation with him and say, hey, man, like, don't be doing this or this. Because if someone sees that, you're more likely to get this. That ain't fucking okay, dude. So you know a conversation that I'm more worried about? And so I was going to say it when you guys were talking about that video of these parents teaching their young black kids about how to deal with law enforcement. That's not the conversation I'm worried about having. You know, the conversation I'm worried about having is telling my daughter what streets

in St. Louis City you can't go ride on. No, you can't go down to Kingdom Plaza at night after 10. That's the conversation I'm worried about. I'm more worried about getting taken by my own people than I am a white officer. And I'm just being completely honest because at the end of the day, I know how to act when it comes to law enforcement. I know how to respect authority. I have no problem taking responsibility for my actions.

I'm worried about my kids having to have that conversation with my kids and telling them where they can and can't go in the city after certain hours. That's the conversation I don't want to have. That's the conversation that needs to be had. Well, dude, I think those are both conversations that shouldn't have to be had. It shouldn't have to happen at all. You know? And, dude, I do feel fucking terrible for the good police officers that are out there

that are fucking, dude, we talked to Alex on the way here, dude. He's sounding like he's fucking dead. He's exhausted. I's exhausted he's exhausted yeah dude you've been out every night dude he comes home he goes back out goes down to the fucking riots he's been going out dj has been going to the riots every fucking night till three four in the morning coming home getting up fucking doing our work you know like dude these guys are they care a lot and like if they didn't care they wouldn't even fucking show up they'd just say hey fuck it let them do whatever the fuck they want it is what it is yeah and i don't know man like and then dude this comes back to like the whole purpose of this fucking

show which was to get people to listen and understand that if you want idealistic results you've got to deal in reality well the only way that you could deal in reality is by having real conversations and the only way you can have real conversations that go anywhere is if both sides are willing to take accountability for the fucking problems and dude we're not there yet as a country clearly i think that's i mean i've been silent because i can't it's hard it's hard for me to process you know and dj we talked about software like i don't think that way so it's really difficult for me to understand that way i know that sounds i know that's the problem right that i don't i don't

see color in that regard i just don't and that's how i was raised and i think that's a lot of the professional or college sports locker room mentality. Like I play with black guys, white guys, Korean guys. It doesn't fucking matter. I don't care. Can you fucking hit a baseball? That's all I care about. And what were you like, dude, you want to go out?

You know what I mean? I'll go to your bars. You come to my bars. You know what I'm saying? Do you like drinking beers? Yeah. You like country music? Yeah.

Well, you know what? Listen, I've been, I lived in Peoria, Illinois. I went to, you know, went to a lot of underground clubs, but I made sure that I dragged some of them guys out to them country bars too, right? Right, right. You know, like, but so I look, it baffles me because I, sometimes, you know, to Andrew's point, like, you know, I know there is a real problem, and I understand that completely. And then there is the other problem of us getting played like pawns.

That's a whole other thing. And that's the part that it's disgusting to me. And I don't know the quote exactly, but I know Malcolm X said it. The difference between a liberal and a conservative is that liberals, their moral standard is much lower. It's something in regards to that and how they'll play the game and i you know you think about a man who's it's all expense it's all expense it's the result at any expense no matter what you have to do and and and to play at this level like nobody can watch that video of george floyd and and disagree with it nobody you can't watch it and so when you white black pink purple you can't and

you know if you don't fucking if you don't i'll take that a fucking and say the truth if you don't think that's wrong you're fucking part of the problem you're an idiot you should be the fuck you dude those well they'll say oh you've never been in that situation you're right he shouldn't be in that situation doesn't have to go that fucking far you know what i mean i wouldn't put myself in that situation i would not have gone that far and i'm not talking about i'm talking about the officer you know what i mean like hey he's clearly down he's clearly in handcuffs there's four of you let's fucking do what you gotta do the other guys should have came over say hey bro get the fuck off of that's right we're done you know what i mean it's done and

dude if us three were there that's exactly how the fuck it would happen. A hundred percent. Well, I mean, and this goes to another thing about police culture too, is learning how to talk to people is more powerful than any tool that you have on that tool belt. Dude, making an enemy an ally is the biggest strike you can have. My ability to see someone. Yeah, but DJ, how many fucking times, how many times have I, dude, everybody listening, how many times have you fucking come across a cop who can't fucking communicate? Exactly.

And decides to be a fucking cocksucker because they can be. Because I've come across a fuck ton of them. Now, I still choose to support the police because the police in general are great motherfucking people. But I've had my fucking face kneeled on by a fucking cop. I told you those fucking stories. I got a story for you. I don't think I told you. So, so two, literally two weeks before I started, so I was a cop at Berkeley, uh, Berkeley

police department. And, uh, this is in 2016 and literally two weeks before I started at Berkeley, okay, I literally just left the fucking department meeting with the chief. And I'm going down 170 because I was going back home. I lived in the city at that time. And I'm on the ramp to get on to 70. And I'm doing probably about 70, 75-ish, right? And I get on 70, get pulled over by a berkeley cop okay now i don't like to i never

was the one to play the cop car right oh you know here's my badge i'm good let me go i don't like that i want to see how this guy handles it right so he pulls me over comes up hey you were speeding i'm like yeah i know i'm just trying to get home well your tents are too dark i understand that their stock is high bottom and he keeps going like he's trying to find everything i'm like hey your home, or your tents are too dark. I understand that. They're stocked. That's how I bought them. And he keeps going. He's trying to find everything. I'm like, hey, I'm about to be working with you in about two weeks. Like, yeah, oh, yeah, that sounds good.

Sounds good. He leaves, gives me my tickets, pulls back. Two weeks later, I see that guy in the station. He's the only traffic cop we had. I'm not going to say his name. He's not there no more. I'll say that. And I see him like, hey, what are we going to do about these tickets? Oh man. You know,

you know, I didn't think you were serious. I thought you were, I'm like, yeah, well, I mean, you know, it's kind of messed up in it. I'm here now. What? And so it was funny. Cause then two weeks after that we get to court, right. And I'm working the court detail. Okay. It's kind of like one of the first things they put you on. And so we're in muni court and judges reading off the names. And then my name comes up and I look up and I'm like, oh shit. So I, I grew up to the bench and you're working. I'm working the detail and get called up in line.

It's fucking hilarious. And so I go up and the judge she just looks at me she's like come closer to the bench and he's sitting off to the right and she's like are you serious and she said that to me i'm like yeah and then she looks over at the cop she's like are you serious and he was he just kind of put his head down and the judge like okay here throw this out and it just goes point, dude, it's like there is an issue in law enforcement. There are bad cops out there. They're horrible cops.

And I think more than one is enough to say that's too many. To say what? Even if it was just one bad cop, that's more than enough to say that's too many. That's one too many. Dude, this is only going to stop on the inside

when good cops stand the fuck up and stop tolerating that shit we have to you know and and like with that officer there you know he's no longer he's no longer at the department you know but he had some issues and he treated everybody like that and to the point where he removed the human this this human relationship out of the equation because he had an ego, because he had a power position, and because he could. And it's wrong. But that doesn't make me forget about my best friend, who's a St. Louis County police officer,

who I look up to like a big brother, who I'm the godfather of his child, who I know every single day goes out to make change. Who kicked your ass in police department. Who whooped my ass in the fucking academy. I don't forget him. I think about him every You know, I think about him every freaking day. I talk to him every freaking day. He's a great guy. And I know... What's his name?

Alani Benson. Alani Benson. I'll tell you what, Alani. DJ don't want no smoke from you, bro. Fuck that. Shit's changed, man. He knows that. All they can whoop my ass on is that grill. That's about it. But, you know, I like to think, Newt, for every one bad cop that we see and don't see, because they're there, there's 10,000 great ones.

And they're doing shit every single day that nobody sees. And they don't get the spotlight. But they're doing it. I agree with that 100%, bro. And that's been my experience. But then again, I am white. And I don't know what it's like. And I don't yeah okay but here's what i do know if anybody ever fucks with you or anybody that's fucking american no matter what the fuck they look like and they do some fucked up shit to them guess

what i'm gonna say something exactly well i think that's the that's the problem i posted on my ig the other day like i don't see it as white black i see it as us and racist you know what i mean like i don't it's right or wrong and there's both sides to it there's black people that are racist there's just many black people are racist white people is racist it's the not being able to hold the standard whenever you go to grandma's house or uncle's house that's where it all starts all this culture that we're talking listen nobody wants to say the fucking uncomfortable truth so i I'll fucking say it because I feel like that's my role. All right? Here it is.

You know those racist jokes? White people that your fucking uncle tells that everybody laughs and kind of like says, holy fuck, I can't believe you said that. The next time the motherfucker says it, you say, hey, don't fucking say that joke, dude. It ain't right. Which I fucking said to a number of people in my fucking family they're not racist they just fuck that's their time of was to tell the jokes now if you and if me and you were telling race jokes to each other yeah that's a fucking different thing yeah but dude when you're around you're you know you're black

family and they start saying hey fuck whitey blah blah, blah, blah, blah, you got to speak up. And I do. I know you do. We just had that situation. Bro, I do too. Him and I do too. And it's been our whole lives. And dude, honestly, some of my family I don't talk to that much because that's what the fuck they do.

Simply because of that. Yeah, dude. And you know what? Until we stop tolerating those kind of conversations. And that's culture, right? That that's culture right that's black culture that's white culture that's fucking uh cop culture so until the cops get in their culture and say hey man we can't be going we can't be doing this no that shit nothing's gonna change and it takes accountability from the inside to change this culture and that goes for everybody involved

right here well i think that's a big point and i I think DJ, you know, it it's, it's maturity in your head that you said this and I, you know, I'm still so fucking baffled by it that it just before you even say anything, I want to say something about this too. You know, this is real hard. Like I've seen a lot of white people getting a lot of heat for not saying anything you got to understand anything that we say it can be wrong so like it's like for the last 10 years we were told shut the fuck up whenever race issues come out now everybody wants the white fucking people to speak up and i get it because you should speak up but fuck no wonder people are fucking confused man like the last 10 years you post anything about race. Fuck you. You don't know what you're talking about. So you know what people did? They start

to say, well, this ain't my fucking fight and whether, no matter what they believe. And dude, now we want people to speak up and I agree people should speak up, but dude, we have to understand that like a lot of these people, they've had their businesses threatened. Like I have, they've had their businesses threatened like i have they've had their fucking safety threatened like i have they like your your your your police friend you just mentioned yeah the guy's working the line at his at the protests in ferguson in ferguson now he's a black cop working the line which by the way the black cops are getting it a hundred times worse that's not a conversation people want to have.

No shit, but we're going to have it right now. So this dude is getting all the heat from his own fucking people. He's working the line trying to keep fucking society safe. Ferguson is a fucking black community. Okay. A great community. Some of the most successful St. Louis citizens have come out of Ferguson. All right?

We have a fucking responsibility to protect that community from being destroyed. Again. Especially by motherfuckers that don't live there. Again. So this man, who has a very young son just like you have sal is standing on the line and somebody recognizes him and and says hey bro guess what you're staying with them i'm gonna kill your fucking kid that ain't fucking cool not at all. That ain't right. That ain't going to get you and him to see eye to eye. Dude, we are getting fucking played.

Period. All of us. All of us. Divide and conquer. That's the fucking goal here. And so we have to be smart enough to know who the fuck is coming to conquer. Because I'm going to tell you who it is. It's the same motherfuckers that supported that motherfucking lockdown for 12 fucking weeks.

That's still going on in some of these places. And the next thing is going to be just so everybody is aware. Coronavirus second wave. Shut it back down. that's coming next these people who are manipulating our fucking world right now which a lot of it has to do with the mainstream media and if you don't see that by now bro you're you need to pull your head out of the fucking sand okay we have a scenario where there's very wealthy, very influential people who own these channels that are only showing certain images to create a certain reaction.

Why, why, why are we shutting down our businesses for fucking three months? Why are we now destroying our businesses? Why are we now destroying the relationship amongst american people why are we dividing them to the the most extreme extent that's ever really happened since the fucking civil war why why is that happening that's the question that needs to be asked and who's doing it who's doing it who's in control of all these fucking far left liberal fuckers? I saw a post by a good friend of mine who I fucking think is a super smart person saying that these people that are called a NIFTA terrorists are just a made up thing by Trump. That's fucking not true. These are fucking far left, crazy, radical liberals that are trying to exploit an entire fucking race of people to keep them exactly where the fuck they

are. That's exactly what's going on. And why? Here's why. So they get the motherfucking vote. And so if you're black and you're out there saying, yes, vote, stop and think about how you voted and what's that's created so far. Because if you keep voting the fucking same, you're going to keep getting the same. Because there's people out there that are evil and do care only about themselves and only about what their agenda is. And don't give two fucks about the blacks in this country and they're willing to destroy the black communities and burn them to the motherfucking ground to get their vote that's fucked up dude and to further the hate hate makes money no no the hate sells i mean i i i mean i process these are

things that i process in the morning you know and you know i'm walking so i was walking for an hour this morning i didn't see one thing on coronavirus it's because it won't sell you know i'm saying what's selling right now it's not gonna make a money racism selling right now and then this is about destroying america for the next 30 fucking years no i i that i see this is about this is about eliminating making the the fucking this is what i said a few podcasts ago people the left has become aware that it's going to be very difficult for them to win the election by the way i want to say this for the one millionth fucking time i'm not fucking right or left i'm in the fucking middle i'm a dj where do i fucking sit on my social issues you're with me every fucking day you're pretty liberal dude

socially yeah socially completely liberal fiscally completely conservative you know what i believe in the ideals of the liberal party for the most part some of them i don't not the extreme shit but i believe there should be true equality and i believe they're gay people have should have the same rights i believe minorities should have the same rights and not have the fucking friction of being on edge all the time right those people should be able to live their lives without worrying if the own fucking country is going to shoot them because they had their hands in their pocket that's fucking wrong well not to cut you off and i think i think this goes to one of my like you know and nobody has

all the answers right but like this is one thing that i really stand firmly on that i believe could make a night and day difference in what we're seeing in the world right now. And I look at the civil rights movement and the Dr. King movement and what was really happening during that time in America. And what made that movement so successful wasn't the peaceful protests. It wasn't that it was a black issue. The platform that was used was this was an American issue. This is an American issue that we have. It's still an american issue these are this this is an american issue that we have american issue with four americans and the injustices that we see right now is an american issue we make this a race issue it's not going to get as far you make this an american issue

americans can get behind that you know what and they should it is an american issue fucking all men are created equal that's what this country is fucking founded upon Guess what black men are fucking men They are the same as fucking white men the same as Asian men the same as American Indian men. We're all fucking men and women They're the same you got a fucking different color tit in your skin. That's it. That's it. Nick might be a little bit bigger That's debatable because I'm fucking Sicilian, bro. One day we're going to roll them out. But one thing's for sure, there will be a rolling out.

Let's just get that straight. So, like, dude, all I'm saying is, man, is like, I just want people to wake up so bad, dude. Like, so fucking bad. You know, people are being told that people that vote conservative are automatically racist. That is such fucking bullshit, dude. Such bullshit. And it's getting, the indoctrination of information from these extremists into black culture

only keeps them exactly where the fuck they are which is where they don't want to be i think sound maker made a great point i think it was like the last podcast you were talking about like if you're looking at the metro populist cities and predominantly minority cities and then what what politicians are in that area so ask yourself look at st louis city for example because i'm a st louis city born and raised guy for the past however many years it's been democrat look at the streets look at the potholes in the street look at the crimes in that area and ask yourself what could what could possibly be worse than where we are right now it's not just the potholes bro you can't go down there fucking nighttime exactly i can't fucking go downtown like you know and so

like dude i think the most powerful thing a black person could do right now is just simply ask down there fucking nighttime exactly i can't fucking go downtown like you know and so like dude i think the most powerful thing a black person could do right now is just simply ask the question why just start asking questions bro no i'm gonna correct you the best thing anybody could do right now is to ask why yeah yeah because we have a fucking problem that needs to be addressed and i don't want to keep addressing this for the next fucking 20 years yeah i would like this to be done i would like this i would like for us to get along i would like for us to have harmony and unity and brotherhood the shit we're supposed to have as americans i would fucking do anything to fucking have that i'm so sick of the negativity and the fucking false accusations and the mob mentality you know now it's like

you can't even say anything if whatever the fuck you say it's it's gonna be well you're a fucking racist everything's so polarized man i'm sorry i was born white yeah like what the fuck do you want me to say i've done everything i fucking can do as a fucking human to to live my life in a way that is human a human not white not fucking black dude i'm just sick of it dude i'm sick of it i mean i think i think for me looking at the situation it's like you know this whole the the notion has been you know speaking from my perspective the notion has been well sal you need to be doing this andy you need to be doing this madat you need to be doing this and people are leaving out the conversation of what the fuck do I need to be doing right if we all just start taking more responsibility for our actions bro

things would change immediately well that was my point earlier when I said you know you had a mature thought process because you know as when i watch those those videos and and you start seeing how the parents conversation goes you know i just i can't it's hard for me to process that one i don't think that way too i'm never going to be in that situation right but then you know you made a great point you know i'm not worried about that because i'm the conversation i'm going to have with my daughter is this right to be accountable for her actions and what she does and why she you know and and instantly in my head, I think, well, okay, well, there's two sides of that street. You know, there's the accountability that the police needs to, they need to hold each

other to the standard that is set, set and the parents, right. The community that they need to hold their people to so that they are accountable for their actions. And unfortunately what gets played out is not the peaceful protests that go down and all the strong black leaders in their communities that they get shown but they get 10 seconds 10 second clips it's not popular no what's popular is four hours of watch and distress of all the looting and rioting white and black in all cities uh bro i'm gonna be honest most of the fucking looters i've seen been fucking white most of the fucking looters i've seen have been fucking white most of the fucking looters

i've seen have been white people i and you you look at it and they sensationalize this ideology that that is essentially racism right white and black on both sides how do you feel like how do you feel that it's okay for like dude if i'm a black guy right now right and i got all these white motherfuckers coming into my town or my community and stealing shit and then getting blamed for it like how the fuck does that make you feel exactly that would piss me the fuck off yeah i get i mean i again i just from my standpoint like i don't it's hard for me to see things that way and that hurts my heart in that way because i i i love you know what i mean i love

people that's like my thing and so like when you see people in distress and you see them hurt and you see hatred and you see all of this shit going on like i i don't live my my thought process is that not that way my thought process is always love it always has been and so like when you see it's just dude it's like i feel like almost ignorant to the situation because i'm i think so differently that i can't fucking fathom thinking that way i can't fucking i can't imagine walking outside being scared i can't i can't imagine you know fucking being afraid of the fucking cops i can't imagine a cop fucking wanting to fucking hurt somebody that i okay and this is where they stop you and say that's your white privilege speaking

no i i and you know what you know what dude okay but the problem is is that's not set in a productive way there's no conversation happening there that's used to tear people down oh shut the fuck up you got white privilege yeah well you know what man uh we're trying to fucking fix that and dude i have a voice i'm happy to stand up for that voice you know i'm saying like i i don't that's why i don't buy into this fucking square thing shit going on today of everybody be quiet uh i'm pretty sure martin luther king was the one that said um that the silence speaks more than silence is the enemy i think what's this quote it's a it's a it's a good quote about silence but you know what? In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies,

but the silence of our friends. Isn't that weird that everybody's being told to shut the fuck up right now? Again? Like, what is it? Is it fucking shut the fuck up or is it speak up? Or is it do something? And this is why, and I think differently, but, you know, we had talked, Andy, and, you know, before all this came out, you know we had talked to any and you know before all this

came out you know it's been some time we've been processing the shit and you told me you're like dude i i just don't know if i should speak on this like i don't know if i'm if i if i have the credibility to speak on this and then i told you i'm like dude i think that's bullshit you as if you have a good set of morals i i if know right or wrong, you can fucking speak on anything. I agree with that, bro. But I also know what it's been like for the last 10 years to be a white fucking man. I'm going to tell you. I don't know what that feels like.

Well, I'm going to tell you what it's like. Anything you say is fucking wrong and anything you say is racist and it's fuck you. Yeah. That's what it is. Well, you said that at the beginning before we started recording. You had your feelings on what we should do as a company you know and i said it's easy for you to say we can't say that right right you know what i mean and i agree like we are on the exact same fucking page you know what i mean yeah and that's where i like i come at this dumbfounded like then i start thinking like fuck we should just run the city of st louis

yeah we'll fucking straighten this motherfucker out that's what i like literally in my brain like that's what i always come to because i we're problem solvers that's the truth like we've always been that way our entire lives like i think you know what because your points are easy you know i'm saying like all right you want to you want to have a fucking better police force let's attract better fucking people you want to have better employees offer a better opportunity you know what i mean the systematic fixing would be super simple to do like that's not the fucking problem for me like you put me in a like dude like you're saying you put me in front of that motherfucking problem i have a solve in an hour that's what that is what we fucking do but i'm gonna tell you this if you don't have accountability and and the desire to be accountable for your actions,

and I'm talking about all the parties, like if the white fucking people can't stand up and say, yeah, dude, we got a fucking real problem here. And the black people can't stand up and say, hey man, some of our behavior is contributing to a real fucking problem here. And the cops can't say, hey, some of our behavior is making this problem worse then we don't have a chance of fixing it ever ever ever and and dude my my main point here is that we need we need people who and i believe i'm one of them i believe you're one of them who are good white people who fucking genuinely are not fucking racist working to correct that issue in everyday life. Where you see injustice, you've got to fucking stop it. Where you see something wrong, you've

got to stop it. This is no different than what we talked about on the MFCEO project for fucking years. It comes down to doing what the fuck you know is right. That's what it comes down to. And if you're too fucking scared to do what you know is right,'s what it comes down to and if you're too fucking scared to do what you know is right then you deserve any label that's given to you that's the truth because i'm going to tell you right now it's not an easy thing to speak up on an issue that isn't hasn't been okay for you to speak on for a long time but i'm going to tell you it needs to happen well that was the impromptuness of this podcast yeah we were sitting yesterday and said do we need to talk like that's part of it and the thing is is like dude i was getting people get mad at me they're

like mad at me because i haven't said anything it's like motherfucker if i would have said this two years ago and you would have fucking got all pissed off that i said something we'd be on cnn yeah so what is real so here's my thoughts um we all need to fucking look at our own communities and say where the fuck are we contributing to this problem and stop doing it yeah that's it no i mean but you know hate is a hard thing hate is a hard thing to overcome you know and we don't hate each other like they're fucking showing no no that's my point though and that, no, that's my point, though. And that's my point. And I have a very hard time having this conversation, not because the topic to me is, but I don't, my heart,

I don't see color that way. We support those 47 little kids in Haiti. They're black. We, as Americans, and this goes to everybody out there listening, we do not hate each other the way they're showing you on TV. We fucking don't. And you all know we don't. You all know we don't.

That shit is being fed and created and spoon-fed to us by a fucking group of people who have other motives than unity and being America. That's it. That is it. And that should fucking terrify everybody why why do they want us to hate each other we don't hate each other why is it that we see black people and police officers the longer this goes on the more peace we see the more hugs we see the more good deeds we see from both sides i've seen videos of the the people protesting and by the way i'm all for protest fucking protest the shit out of everything i'm all about it but when it turns to fucking tearing up businesses and

setting people's livelihoods on fucking fire and killing people and killing motherfuckers after you we we just went through this covid shit and you're playing right into the plan to destroy the fucking infrastructure of this country dude it is time to fucking unite it is time to wake up and it is time to realize that each other is not the enemy we are not fighting against each other we are only fighting against each other because that's what they're fucking telling us to do and anybody out there that disagrees with that you're not paying attention look at the fucking news doesn't matter what channel you're looking at look at them all

what is shown hate, violence, oppression fucking murder, crime burning buildings load your guns oh but you can't have guns okay be nice to each other but those motherfuckers are bad

it's beyond my comprehension and I'm somewhat of a fucking capable, mentally capable person. Okay. What the fuck? And everybody should feel that way. That fucking flag represents all of us. And all of us, all different kinds of motherfuckers have died for that flag to represent all of us. And because we have a few people out there that have beliefs and they've gotten smart, they've gotten smart. They have beliefs that don't go along with our fucking constitution and they want it to change. They've decided how to, and they figured out how to infiltrate and create chaos and hate and division. So every fucking one of us loses. That's the bigger problem.

That's not even being fucking talked about because every time you do the fucking people who are in the middle of it gets so emotional and so angry and they want to throw a label on whatever it is conspiracy theory this that I've been telling you motherfuckers this for fucking five years they don't care about us we do need change but we need united change we don't need this left and right we need everybody who's not on the 10% furthest left and the 10% furthest right. The 10% furthest left are fucking terrorists. The 10% furthest right are fucking KKK motherfuckers. Everybody else, we're all in the same boat and they've got us thinking that we're not.

It's time to wake up, man. I'm fucking tired of it. And so there's my motherfucking black square. How about that shit? That's what I think. Well, bro, you know what? You want me to talk? I'm going to fucking talk.

I'm sick of this shit. And I fucking, dude, my heart hurts for fucking black people, especially the ones that are some of my best fucking people in my life. Dude, I went over there to give Seema a hug. I fucking give Seema a hug every motherfucking day. She's one of my favorite humans on the face of the earth. Dude, I can fucking see her face. I can see on her fucking face how exhausted and fucking sad she is.

It's fucking bullshit. And if you're out there trying to call all cops bad and all fucking whites bad and fucking all this, the cops bad, you're part of the fucking problem. Y'all know it's not true when you fucking shout it down and say you don't know what the fuck i'm what it's like well you

know what motherfucker i do know a little bit more i've been motherfucking attacked by my own motherfucking people and almost killed i know what the fuck it's like to be a fucking victim. I've been a fucking victim, a real one. I don't fucking sit here and fucking stop and try to fight the country every fucking which way. No, I choose to try to do good. A lot of you guys out there have had bad experiences. What are you doing to try and make it not happen again? Fucking bullshit. It's like everybody out there is fucking 12 years old and they have no ability to fucking reason at all. Zero logic, zero reason. Why do we not have any great leaders coming up and saying, Hey, we're getting fucking played. Why do we have fucking, you know, ice cube to post it, who I fucking love and have loved my whole fucking life.

I bought every motherfucking CD. And if you don't believe me, if you've ever seen me fucking sing, I can fucking ding every fucking word, every motherfucking song he's ever done. You got him posted pictures with a fucking hatchetet telling motherfuckers to go to war that's fucking wrong dude it's not right and you can say all you want well my people hurt yeah you know what everybody fucking hurts right now i'm sick of this shit dude i'm sick of it from everybody dude. I'm sick of it from everybody. And dude, every single one of you has a fucking obligation to make it fucking stop. It starts with teaching your kids the right shit. It starts with fucking checking your family and your friends and your own fucking motherfuckers that say stupid shit.

You don't have to fucking disown them. You fucking look them in the eye and you say, Hey, we don't do that shit around here, motherfucker. How many times you heard me say that to people? Yeah, that's right. And I've heard you do the same. That shit ain't happening behind closed doors. And that's why we have these motherfucking problems.

And that happens with cop culture, white culture, and black culture. And until all you motherfuckers start fucking doing it, nothing's going to fucking change. What else? Well, I mean, dude, let's just let the fucking, let's just let the fucking 30 people who are worth $100 billion or $50 billion or more just create mass chaos

in America and ruin the opportunities and the economy and the infrastructure and the society. Let's just let them. You want to talk about fucking looting? Motherfucker big corporate America's looted our entire economy for fucking 12 weeks. The professional looters.

Fucking bullshit, dude. And if we don't fucking stop it right fucking now, this country is going to fucking be torn apart. And all you motherfuckers out there with your AR-15s, you know, posting hard on the internet, you know what? Fuck you too. You're contributing to the fucking problem. How about you go out there with your fucking people and say, hey, motherfucker, I'm part

of the solution. How about you support that shit? I'm sick of this shit, dude. I'm sick of everybody having their little fucking angle. And you know what? I'm also sick of everybody having their little fucking angle when their life looks like total shit and they think they can fucking talk about every fucking, every motherfucker out But I'm also sick of everybody having their little fucking angle when their life looks like total shit. And they think they can fucking talk about every fucking every motherfucker out there that knew everything about Corona.

Which, by the way, you're all fucking wrong. Thinks they're goddamn fucking race fucking expert now. They're a social justice fucking expert now. They all have doctorates in race and inclusion. What the fuck? Why don't they get their doctorates from the internet? Yeah. Which is all bullshit. Facebook University.

And then they go push it out. And then they go get your fucking friends together and they say, hey, this motherfucker didn't post his black square. Yeah. Fucking racist. Yeah, has to be. Yeah. Well, I'll give you the logic that comes through on that.

So kids go back to school today. First day back in school. Right? No shit. Seriously? Yeah, for real wow you know well yeah because corona's fucking over bro well you had a choice you know and i'm like well i'm gonna i'm gonna be part of the movement that goes back right so you be a parent

and can't go in the building unless you have a mask blah blah blah and i found it very interesting so my kids who i just kissed all three of them can go into the building with no mask on yeah but parent has to stand outside otherwise to enter the building has to go into the building with no mask on yeah but parent has to stand outside otherwise to enter the building has to go in the mask yeah you explain that logic to me i can't that's the logic that that's going on right now out in the world well you know so it's funny so i went uh alex we had our uh we had a doctor's visit yesterday baby checkup right and so we get in the building and they're taking temperatures and you have a mask if you don't here's a mask and we get up to the second floor and walk off the elevator there's a

sign right and it says uh everybody should respect social distancing everybody should wear a mask don't wear a mask if you have breathing problems don't wear a mask like i'm just like well well shit i have breathing problems yeah i just walked up two flights of stairs but i mean you know back to to andrew's point in that regard like the logic the logic in which these people who are experts they were once covet experts 45 days ago or now the race experts or the news expert which is getting pumped down shit information and also doing starts looking weird now they're financial experts yeah they they dude, they're regurgitating bullshit. And it goes from political... But then you have the whole fucking group of them, all of them...

It's the mob mentality. Ganging up on people that actually know some shit. And then you get upset when those people don't say shit when shit happens. Well, motherfucker, if you want people who are intelligent to speak on things, to get involved in politics get involved in the community and do all these things how about we maybe maybe start listening how about maybe we stop just attacking them when they open their fucking mouth just like people do on this fucking show people listen to this show for the first 20 minutes and you could see it and the minute

someone says something about anything they don't like, they tune out and then they go write a review of fuck you. You know what? I think if you go listen to the body of work that I put out, you'd be pretty fucking proud of the message I've said. I don't give a fuck what you know of me or not. And that's the problem in this fucking country. We're not listening.

We're not listening. The first time we hear anything that doesn't go along with what the fuck we believe, we tune it the fuck out. But I think that's the problem. I mean, dude, you look at a bad relationship. You don't listen. You're not willing to compromise. You look at a bad business.

They don't listen to their customers. They don't compromise. You look at anything bad. It's because you're not willing to fucking hear the other side you're not willing to fucking meet in the middle and specifically on this issue which has been around america forever for its entire fucking livelihood we have to figure out how to come together if we're ever going to cross that bridge we have to understand that it's not about the temp some of us have crossed the bridge sal no no i understand some of us have crossed that bridge there's actually i would say there's a lot of

people who have crossed that bridge i would say more have crossed that bridge than haven't but i would say the ones that haven't crossed that fucking bridge are now getting people to cross back over yeah that's fucking scary but my my thing being is like you know just like it is in politics you know sitting in the middle is is where the majority of us lie and we're allowing the media to to centralize or sensationalize the far left and the far right and in this experience it's not political it's the the far racist left and the far racist right because they do exist that is a real fucking thing. But the majority of us are on the fucking bridge.

And all we're doing is we're going to set fucking dynamite across that fucking thing and blow us all up while we're all on it and let the far left or the far right win. You know, like, I don't, I don't, you know, the media, again, no different than a political issue. This is, they're sensationalizing the bullshit. Why are they doing that? So that they can fucking drive their agenda they want us to have divide why so that they can fucking control the the the politics well if they can if they can control

the vote they can control the economy they can control the future that's that's that's the game and the game and like it goes back to the whole how how how much whole, what better way to get the black vote than to make their lives suck under the current administration? And then promise to make it better. Yes. Yeah, change. It's the biggest bullshit out there. I mean, up until fucking three months ago, I'm pretty sure there was more done for the

black community than any other president that's ever fucking been in office, including B.O. that everybody seems to love so much. That's a fact. I know that's a fucking fact, bro. It's a fact. Well. I want to pull something out to you guys. We were talking about it on the car ride here a little bit, Andy.

This whole point of listening, right? Listening to each other and really, really having some good discussion. I extended a question. I said, so what does that round table look like? If we were to have a table just like this, who do you fill those chairs with? Who gets to sit at the table and give their opinion? I would want a seat.

Same thing you said. Well, no, I said I probably don't deserve a seat, but I'd like to have one. Well, why wouldn't you say you wouldn't deserve one? Well, because, dude, I'm not fucking black. And you know what else? I don't fucking know you know what here's the deal and by the way dude you'll never find a white dude that identifies more as a black man than fucking me i'm watching that huh what about joe i mean i was pretty fucking close i would say i would say joe and

i are of the same fucking mindset yeah you know what I'm saying? And, oh, dude, my fucking head hurts talking about this. I guess, like, you know, dude, I don't know. Like, you brought up a good point, DJ, because I said that, and DJ's like, why the fuck would you not be on it? Yeah. And I'm like, well, I mean, dude, what qualifies me to be on it yeah and i'm like well i mean dude all what i you know what qualifies me to be on you basically said like you know like like why why would i be on there i'm like why wouldn't you be on there he's like well it's because i don't i wouldn't want to be on there i'm like

well that's exactly why you should be on there you know i'm saying like every single day maybe we maybe it's time we start calling on some of our leaders in our communities to serve as opposed to just letting people serve who that's what they want to do. Exactly. I think the way I look at it, dude, I look at that table like a jury, right? A jury is what? It's made up of your peers, people that look like you, supposedly supposed to think like you, right? That's the whole point of a jury is you get this non-biased thing. When you have people that want to be heard for the wrong reasons

and you put them on the damn table, now you got biases pushed out and they're pushing their own agenda. People there that don't want to talk. DJ, that's why I didn't really want to – that's why it took me a minute to say anything. Yeah, I know. Dude, I feel like a lot of people are saying it better than what I could even say it anyway.

Like, dude, there's a lot of people out there saying really good shit yeah that like they're they're more affected by this than what i am and you know i've just been sure i've chosen to share those messages and what i've been trying to share on social is messages that are fucking productive you know like yeah i fucking know there's a huge problem i'm aware aware. And dude, I've never been, I have never been a guy ever to say, oh, fucking racism's not real. No, I fucking know it's real. It's fucking real. Now, is it fucking a million times better

than it used to be? Fucking right it is. Okay? But does it still exist? Yeah. So where's the X that we're going to fucking stand on? Where is that X? I think that X needs to be

where there's legit equality. If you're black and you're white, you have the same opportunities. Do I think that we're there yet? No, I do not think we're there yet. Do I think we're closer than we were 10 years ago? Yes, I do. Do I think we're closer than we were 20 years ago? Absolutely. 30 years ago. Fuck yeah. Okay. And the longer you go back, but I also understand black america's fucking position like we're tired of fucking waiting i'd be tired of waiting too dude i'm sick of seeing motherfuckers on the news getting their heads smashed or getting shot for going for

their fucking wallet i'm sick of it dude it makes me it makes me think i saw this meme the other day it was like dude that's not a fucking that's not an attempt you can be by the way here's a problem in our communication in this country you can believe that there are great cops and most of them are great and still be as sick of seeing that shit as i am i would imagine that most of those great cops are just as sick of it that's why they became cops here we have a scenario too now where the and this is the fucking fucked up part of this whole situation we got white motherfucking anarchists that are literally being prompt help helping gather and infuriate and pour gas on this situation which is already terrible okay we have a media that's not showing the truth they're only showing the worst shit. Okay.

We have, we have. You want to take a break real quick? No, dude, I'm just saying, no, we don't need to take a break, dude. I'm just saying like, we have all, we have all these fucking police officers who are not, they're, they're getting tossed in, right? Like, oh dude, now everybody hates me because I'm a cop like your boy. Okay. His own people fucking hate him because he's a cop. He's so fucking pissed off about what happened up there. I guarantee you can't see straight, which is why he's out on the fucking line. Okay.

Then we have all these black people in their communities that are being led to violence and destruction, destroying their own fucking communities. And then, and then coming out and saying, we didn't fucking do it. These motherfuckers from this other group came in here and fucking blew up our neighborhood. And now they're gone and we got to clean it up. How do you think they feel? Dude, everybody's being manipulated by the fucking media. Everybody, all sides to produce a certain narrative that is literally destroying our country and our civility and our love for each other, dude. It's fucking wrong. It's wrong. and it's wrong on all sides dude this shit with social media censoring also that fucking shit that's part of the problem and people are just buying into it dude they're just fucking oh yeah it's a cool thing to do this is what i stand for dude i saw

a fucking instagram influencer yesterday get caught going to where they were repairing a fucking window that had been busted out. And she gets out of the car and asks the dude, hey, can I take a shot with your drill? And she poses with the drill like she's fixing the window. Jesus Christ. Dude, they take the picture. She hands the drill back to the guy and goes, you very much blah blah gets in her car and fucking leaves that's what we have that's going on as a fucking problem in this world we have a bunch of people that want to look like they're doing some shit and not very many that want to be about it i'm

sure she also posted a black black square of course of course fuck man i mean like i said i know dude some people are gonna listen to this and fucking hate me dude they're gonna fucking hate me why i don't know because it's not what they wanted to hear it's not what they wanted to hear well it's what they needed to hear well look dude you want me to fucking talk i'm gonna fucking talk yeah but it's okay to have an opinion. No, it ain't. Not if you're a white man. No, it ain't. Now, if we want that to change,

there's a lot of good white men that fucking stick up and stand the fuck up and say, hey, you're not going to fucking do that to my black brother and sister. Yeah. But you can't be accusing them every time they say something that might not be the exact right thing that you wanted them to say of being a fucking racist, because guess what happens?

Then they shut the fuck up. That's why you don't see all these white people standing up right now. And nobody wants to take accountability for that. I don't see, I don't see that. I've been called a racist for the last 10 fucking years. Anytime I fucking say anything About black culture

Or some sort of you know Racial issue I am fucking entitled I'm rich I'm fucking white I'm exactly the fucking enemy to come at So no I can't say anything But you know what if you let me speak for you I'll do a good fucking job

Because I fucking care about this country and i care a lot more than any of these other motherfuckers out there that you're voting for i can promise you that anyway dude i'm just getting fucking fired up dude it's fucking bullshit it's kind of sexy is it yeah well we got a hot tub time don't make me stand up you know what i'm saying look i'm sorry I'm getting so mad. Like, I know it ain't everybody's cup of tea, but like, fuck. I mean, it's passionate and it's genuine. Well, no, but I speak on behalf of white people.

That's how I feel. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Dude, like, I care more. I mean, but that's, I think that's the love in my heart. Like, I don't, I see the struggle. I mean, I understand it, meaning think that's the love in my heart. Like, I don't, I see the struggle. I mean, I understand it. Meaning from the outsider's perspective, looking in, man, like, I don't know where I can help

because to Andrew's point, like I, well, let me, let me say this, Al, you've been helping and you help every single day ever since you've been a part of this company. And so have you since you started this fucking company? I, I, DJ, you have been every single day. I feel very proud about that yeah i mean like and that's the thing dude because dude i i just think about the word responsibility everybody has it it may be different for everybody right because some people can do more and some people can't do that right but you guys have done the action part and that will speak louder than

anything a black square could say anything that anybody else well fucking idiotic person could say we always it means more bro 80 of these motherfuckers posting that square haven't said a goddamn word about this haven't done a damn thing they haven't fucking said shit this is a fucking way for them to cop out of having to actually say something that fucking matters that might put them in a little bit of heat that's right i saw a buddy of mine on facebook he made a post i'm off the protest and like oh yeah you know they should be protesting so i just so are you down there oh well you know no i got you know i gotta work and i'm like well

what are you talking about then i love that people are protesting i fucking love it dude that's america no i love it but what i don't love is these fucking funded soldiers coming in and literally making it look like the black community is destroying their own because they're not no it's not them it's this fucking bullshit media initiative and people think that's conspiracy. It's not conspiracy if it's actually happening. How many videos do we got to see of pallets of bricks being dropped off in these fucking areas to believe it? How many videos do we got to see of fucking white motherfuckers dressed in all black with little goggles on with their little fucking Anifda fucking flyer that tells

you how to dress, telling black people to burn shit before you start to realize that it's happening. It's not fucking conspiracy. It wasn't conspiracy when I said it on March fucking 9th that they're trying to get the fucking economy shut down. Fuck. So sick of hearing conspiracy. It's not conspiracy when there's fucking proof.

You just want to keep believing the shit that your people, that you look at for your fucking leadership say, well, maybe those people aren't right. Maybe they have a different agenda. Maybe you could believe both. Maybe you could listen. You know?

Maybe, maybe, maybe, just maybe, they're being played. Maybe they bought into the system. Who's that? Those people. Those leaders. Exactly. Those leaders that have not made change. They haven't changed that community.

They haven't done what they said they were going to do. And that's, dude, you can either talk about it or be about it. And if you can't deliver that action, well, it's time to get the fuck out and get somebody in there who can deliver some change. Dude, look, here's the bottom line, guys. We are never going to get anywhere calling each other fucking names, saying you're fucking privileged or you're fucking this or you're stupid or you're you're a fucking racist or you're this or that it is we're never going to get there no now we're going to get there you want to fucking change

shit stop it when you see it yep you want to change shit be a good example of what the fuck we're supposed to be as americans you want to change shit? Teach your kids now. You want to change shit? Stop allowing your fucking family behind closed doors to progress these kind of things. Every fucking family knows what I'm talking about too. Black or white or Asian. You all have your little conversations in your own homes about fucking the other people. Stop. That shit don't happen in my fucking house. Shouldn't be happening in your house. And when it does happen, if you sit there and laugh and not say shit, and then you go post a black square on your fucking page, you're the fucking problem in

this country. All right. So that's my final word. I don't have any more to say to that. I'm going to, I'm going to turn it over to Sal. I'm going to let DJ close the show. What do you think? I would say love, not hate. We're not going to solve this problem by hating each other. We're going to solve this problem by coming together and hearing the struggles and feeling the emotion and learning to love one another. I mean, there is no better quote

than love thy neighbor. And you got to understand that like we are all from different walks of life, but that does not mean that we can't get along. That does not mean that we cannot love each other. I still, I look at God's children as God's children, black, white, pink, purple. And our duty is to raise our children in a better environment than we were given. And right now we're not going down that path. Right now we're going down a path of hate. And I don't want my kids to grow up in a world of hate. I want them to experience culture and I want them to experience what I knew was of a great city downtown, you know, North St. Louis, going to Crown Candy, you know, going to those parts of the community that, you know, quite honestly honestly i wouldn't go to right now and that pride and love that i have for the people of st

louis specifically and really just for people all over uh in general is is we're only going to fix that problem by fucking learning to listen to each other and learning to take care of each other and and burning each other's shit down and fucking calling each other's name they ain't gonna fix nothing i agree uh i think i think i can speak for literally everybody here in this room i know everybody here in this fucking building my heart goes out to george floyd and his family and i know people are hurt i feel it i see it but i begin to think when I see Enzo or, or some of your, your,

your, the twins out and they throw like a little temper tantrum, right? Cause they want something, whatever it is. And immediately you're like, wait, so how that works,

use your words, right? I see it. I see America having a temper tantrum right now because we're mad, because we're upset, because we're hurting and we want a reaction. But how we're trying to go about getting that reaction is not going to work. And so I challenge everybody, you know, I think of it like this is so what now? What now? What do you do? Everybody has a responsibility. And I think everybody has within their own power and within their own means to affect change. So start asking yourself and reflecting on it. How do you do? How do you go about that? Hurting other people, hurting and burning down buildings isn't going to get it. I don't know all the answers, but I know doing the same shit ain't going to work. And so I just challenge people to do that. Keep loving each other and keep trying

to get better because we're all in this together and we all should be into this together. And that's all I got. The last thing I'd like to say is just real simple. There's been a lot of social pressure to be anti-racist in your, in your social media and all that. Let me remind all of you guys something before you, you know, message companies and message people and try to attack people for not speaking up that anti-racism in real life matters a hell of a lot more than anti-racism on fucking Instagram one fucking day in history.

So keep that in mind.