REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 55. Uncomfortably Comfortable Ft. Ryan Michler - Part 2

Episode Date: July 10, 2020

Are you chasing likes and comments on social media? Or, do you stand by your views regardless if it goes against the mainstream media's outlook? Without even realizing it, most people make decisions entirely based on emotions and disregard the statistics and data. On today's show, Andy and Ryan wrap up the discussion and teach you how to develop a more reliable belief system based on looking at the facts.

especially now yes especially right now is a great time for that you know we have a lot of silence right now because everybody's like what the fuck should i say you know say? You know why they're thinking, what the fuck should I say? Because they've been taught to be performers, just like I was talking about with the Gary thing earlier. They've been taught to be adult performers. So now they don't know what to say because everything they say is predicated on their brain wanting approval from other people. Right. And this is how it ties back all to having real self-confidence. You need to look at what you believe, whether, you know, and fuck what's popular in society.

Fuck what everybody's saying. Doesn't matter what I'm saying. Doesn't matter what Trump's saying. Doesn't matter what Black Lives Matter saying. Doesn't fucking matter. What do you say? What do you say? And where did you get the information from where you know we have a big problem with society right now with one being really nervous about saying anything and and by the way this is all intentionally imposed on our society oh i have no doubt yeah but what the fuck you think the masks are for let's be real okay a lot of people are like oh you lost me there well that's because i'm smart all right but the thing is here is that we have a situation where people are not capable of actually addressing the issues that they have within themselves and because they're not able to address the issues and think for themselves they don't know what to say and

instead they resort to, to saying what's going to get them the likes or the comments or the, this. Yeah. Uh, I hate to break it to you guys, but Instagram is a fucking app on your phone. It shouldn't control your thought process.

It shouldn't control your life. It's just, it's an out, like for me, I look at Instagram, social media. So I've been doing this for, we started about the same time.

I think actually with, with this stuff, with you, with MFCO and me with order man stuff. Um, and I've actually found and developed my thought process and my voice and identified my values and the things that are important through sharing them. Right. Oh, absolutely, bro. So if I went back five years, dude, I would i'm not even gonna listen to my podcast from five years ago so i'm sure i would say things that now i'd cringe about like yeah but but i've earned where i am today too and in five years or 10 years i'll look back at today on this podcast

and think what the hell was i talking about yeah but that's that's the process you have to go through if you want to if you want to find your you don't get to find it that's probably a better way of saying it you don't find your voice you develop it you articulate it dude that's the whole fucking theme of the show that is it that's the biggest nugget you'll take from the show finding your voice is not finding it it's developing it and you develop it through what consuming consuming different kinds of intelligence from credible people, not your bro that you went to fucking high school with that's posted some ridiculous meme on the internet.

It's about actually looking for the facts and then developing a worldview based upon those facts. Dude, I was just talking about this in my Instagram story a few days ago. The reason most people struggle in life is, is because they cannot understand the difference between their beliefs

and actual facts. Yeah. Most people's egos block their ability where they think their beliefs are the facts when in reality, the facts are the facts, facts right you don't get to decide the facts yeah facts don't change based on how you feel about it and so most people spend their whole life making decisions from an emotional place an idealistic place all right instead of taking a realist viewpoint which is what this show's about and looking at the facts and then standing on

those. See guys, cause I've been getting a lot of heat. They're like, fuck dude, you're, you're bragging about always being right. Well,

yeah, motherfucker. Cause I am. But the reason I brag about it is to show you how to think I'm trying to present to you and to share it. That's right. That's I tell them, I'm like,

look, this is no fucking magic. This is how I'm always right. I'm right. Because I look at the facts, i develop an opinion based upon the actual facts not how i feel about it and then i move and that that applies to my business life too like dude what if i made all these business decisions based on my emotions you know let's say there's another uh company out there that i fucking hate i hate them and i make every decision based around get them how much i hate them well you're not going to make good decisions no because you're

your motivation is on how you feel and your decision make is how you feel not based on what's real right and so we could argue and we could kick and scream and we could fight and we can throw tantrums and we can cancel and we could do all scream and we could fight and we can throw tantrums and we can cancel and we could do all these things, but that still doesn't make it to fucking facts. And if you stand on the motherfucking facts, you will rarely be wrong. And guess what? If you are wrong, you can always say, well, that's what the data said at this point in time. And this is how I made my decision. So it appears that the data was wrong. Well, then you also, that's okay. That's fine. You also give yourself permission to pivot

when the data suggests something else. Correct. Because if you just go on your emotions, like I'm pissed or I'm this or I'm feeling this way, like you don't really have much room to develop or evolve your train of thought. That's right. But if you say, hey, the data said this,

so I made decisions based on this. Yeah. And then I got new data. So naturally, what i believed changed yes because the inputs change yes but people tie way too much yeah of they wait they they sink their people are so they desire so much to be right and i'm going to tell you like i would rather be the guy who wins than be the guy who's right yes you know what i mean and so you have to make a decision like do you want to be the guy who

you know you're going to sink your heels in and you're always right because you you could do that you're going to end up on an island by yourself yeah because everybody's going to see what you're doing it's very obvious to most people when they do that. Or are you going to be the person that is okay with being wrong, but comes out on the winning side? Yeah. And I could tell you this. If you want to be financially successful, you got to be the latter. You cannot be the former.

And so, you know, put watching this whole scenario go down with society, right? And all these people ignoring the data that is literally there for them to see everywhere regarding COVID and masks and all this shit. Okay. The corruption. Like, dude, we see these videos coming out of political candidates saying ridiculous shit. And people, I'm talking about Biden, by the way. And they just look the other way like he didn't fucking say it. Right.

Motherfucker, that's what he believes. And. Like he didn't fucking say it. Right. Motherfucker. That's what he believes. And he's been saying it for 40 years. You know, just because you want that to be wrong, doesn't make it wrong. And if you choose to like go with that, you're making a terrible decision for yourself. Yeah. And so, and that's not just with this situation. It's with all situations. And this is why most people struggle financially because

they don't make logical factual decisions they make decisions based upon oh my boss came in and he treated me bad today well fuck what'd you do you know exactly you know and if you didn't do anything was he having a bad day did he have to put his dog down earlier in the day you don't fucking know right now if it's a consistent over and over again that's right then that's you know what a different job that's a difficult conversation to have with him hey i don't like the way that i'm being treated yep and you can have those conversations and people just you know instead they fucking take it and take it and take it and take it and then they go online and say i'm fucking get them,

you know? And that's dude, that doesn't help you. It doesn't help that person. It doesn't help anything. Yeah. It's like acting like a fucking child. Yeah. So,

you know, that's what I see with these statues is, is like, Oh my God. At this point, it's just, it's temp. It's,

it's the same way. My six year old or my four year, my four year old, he gets pissed. You know what he does when he's pissed? goes up and he scratches you yeah like he'll go up and he'll either pinch you or scratch you and he's four yeah and that's what these people are doing bro there's things that maybe all right let's look at it this way maybe there's some things that you should legitimately be upset about i agree maybe there's some things that we legitimately

need to address. I agree. But you acting like a little bitch or a little child is not going to get anybody onto your side. Not only that, it pushes people away from hearing what the fuck you have to say. It's repulsive. What's even bigger than that, man, is I call it, you know, everybody knows the definition of insanity, right?

And so when we give the same exact reaction. Well, hold on. Not everybody knows it, apparently. Well, I mean, apparently not right but i mean we're giving the same exact reaction to the same situations expecting a different outcome dj it's insane that's insanity bro i show you i've shown you a number of posts i wrote in 2013 wild saying the same motherfucking shit it's wild you know it's like stuff that still holds weight today yeah Yeah. No, I could have wrote it today. Yeah. You know,

but the thing is, is like a few of them, you know, but the problem is, is like, dude, we're not growing. No,

we're not growing. And you know why we're not growing? Because we don't have any real leaders actually showing people how to grow. We have a government that is both on the left and the right in a position of power over. It's become a, it's become a system where it's more like they're ruling us than they represent us representing and working with us and that's dangerous man it is you know and and a lot of people make this a republican democrat thing i don't see it that way at all i see it as an american thing versus people who are un-american

right and both sides of the idol on the political spectrum. I mean, you look at Democrats, you look at Republicans. I do not see leaders, man. I don't. It's disheartening. It's frustrating. I could also understand. I could understand the frustration with America that certain people have

that are not on the same side I'm on. I can too. Of course. And the reason I can can understand it is because, and this is, people are going to get mad about this. The, you know,

the Patriots, well, I'm the one that fucking Patriot guys, just so you know, those people, you know, you have to understand perspectives. Okay.

And if you are someone who is upset with the country, right. And you don't see any leaders actually doing anything to fucking change it. Well, what can you do? You can break shit. Right. You know? And so we have a leadership problem in our country that comes from decades and decades

and decades and decades. And I don't think it's Trump. Trump's been there three fucking years. So a lot of people are like, oh, dude, it's fucking Trump. This whole culture thing started with Trump. If you think it's Trump, you're not getting you're not understanding.

This is a system. You want to talk about systematic problems because that's the topic right now? This is a systematic cultural problem in the ruling class of this country. We were never meant to have a ruling class. We were meant to have representatives and the people representing us right now, because there's a lack of term limits and a desire to

become career politicians and create personal wealth through that path, which shouldn't be allowed to happen by the way, that's basically poison the well. And so we, you know, no matter what side you're on, no matter, no matter, no matter where you stand on everything, it's hard to look at the people who represent us and have faith in them at all. Of course,

you know, and, and that goes for the Republicans and the Democrats. The Republicans had an opportunity to stand the fuck up and fix shit and stop this shit from happening, but they all pussed out. You know what I'm saying? They don't have any spines.

Weak, cowardly. Yeah, and you know why? Because they're getting paid from all these other special interest groups on the back end that nobody knows about, and they're making decisions based upon their own personal pocketbook instead of making decisions about what's good for me and you, and you and you. Yeah.

You know? And so, dude, until we get some real leadership, and I think there's a real chance. And, man, I'm not wrong about a whole lot of shit, but I think there's a real chance that in the next election, not this one, but the next one, we're going to see a whole bunch of regular people come just like back in the old days. The way it should be. Yeah, like back in the George Washington days. I think we're going to have a bunch of real people that try to make a run at being president which i should do out of a sense of obligation bro like like some sense of not obligation but like responsibility duty duty that's right yes that's a better word so you know

i get asked a lot they're like dude have you ever thought about running for office well no i did i haven't but i am starting to think like well maybe i'm the only motherfucker that could fix this shit. That's a duty. You know what I'm saying? Like doing it. And I imagine too, if you ran for office from a financial perspective, that would not help you. Terrible decision. Which actually makes it more reasonable for everybody else. Right. It's a terrible decision for me personally. First of all, it's a downgrading quality of life. I give away all the things I actually like. I'm a very private person. I like being alone. You subject yourself to all sorts of ridicule that you don't have to

argue with dumb fucks all day long, which, you know, and give them your number to be able to do it. Your email address. And the thing is, is like, and look, dude, I'm not saying I'm the guy, but I'm saying there's someone out there like me who needs to fucking fill that role. And that is the reason I like Trump. People are like, well, how can you fuck? Well, dude, what the fuck did he give up? Why would he do this? Like, you guys are missing the whole point here.

Why would he give up? That dude had the most ballerist lifestyle on the face of the planet. And now what's he do? He sits in a fucking house that it's not even as cool as his regular house and gets yelled at, right? Like that fucking sucks. Nobody wants to do that.

But dude, if you really love what this country stands for and I could see why he did it because like, dude, look at his life. He was able to build this incredible life. The only thing I could think that's going on in head is like man no i here's what i think's going on and dude look people think oh he's a fucking tyrant he's a this he is that um i think really

honestly what is in his head is and i think this was back in the day and this is why you saw him switch from democrat to republican and run under the main party was uh if i if somebody doesn't do something we're fucked yeah and i'm willing to give up my cush lifestyle in service of america that's that's how i see it and i don't see him like really favoring either party i see him being a guy who cares about the fucking constitution of the united states yep and dude if you don't like him cause he brags or he does this, you got to realize like, that's what he's from New York. He's a fucking New Yorker.

He talks direct. He makes jokes. Well, could you imagine what it would look like if there wasn't a fighter in the office? Bro country would be done, done, be done.

You know, that's what I laughed about. Like people, Hillary tweeted the other day if i've done this we it would have been handled better lady if you had been here our country would already be we'd already be at war right with each other right on purpose because you want it you know so dude i don't know man like i'm excited about where america's gonna go i really am because i think once we get through this difficult time, I think people are waking up.

I think they're seeing the leftists for what they are. And I'm not saying, dude, if you have liberal viewpoints that you're a bad person. But I've said culturally, there's a problem with that side of the fucking party that's very, very bad right now. And it ties in with the media. It ties in with the fucking most wealthiest people in the right now and it ties in with the media it ties in with the fucking most wealthiest people in the world and it ties in with the with the far left and so if you're someone that sits over on that side because we do because i'm i consider myself sort of a moderate you got to let it go man like because this is about our freedom in america and this and that and we gotta we gotta start unifying in that regard and stop arguing about whether you're a motherfucking donkey or an elephant.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like if you really believe in a donkey symbol or an elephant symbol, your fucking brain is fucked up. That's part of the problem is a two-party system. My hope is that the independent party will become a more viable party. And people will actually, hopefully, have to start looking at what people are saying versus voting straight party.

Yeah, party loyalty, yeah. Do you agree with what that guy, 80% of what that guy says? Do you agree with 70% of what that guy says? This is where I love the fucking, where we are technology-wise, though. So, I totally, I'm not a very, I don't really like, like technology.

It's not my thing. I'm not, I'm not like a tech, like a tech guy. Yeah, not at all. Like at all. And I'm,

I prefer to like default all decisions with technology to other people. I fucking hate it. So the, the one thing I love about it though, is that all these dudes created these, these tech platforms, you know, the Twitter,

the Facebook, this, that the other, this, this, this, and then they censor the fuck out of it. Right.

And what they're doing unknowingly is they're actually a waking America up. Oh yeah. And, and what the fuck is, is what's going to be great about it is that, you know, we're going to have, we have now a new dialogue that was not included in mainstream

media or social media. That's starting to happen on the street level. And it goes along with what you just said, you know, and, and I think society was sort of asleep for a long time because all we had was MSM, right? We had mainstream media. That's it. Right. Well, then the internet came along. Right. And we gave a whole bunch of other people a voice and we say oh well that sucks because we're listening to the dumbest people yeah but everybody's got a voice and so what that's created is some some individuals who have stood up and said like some really good shit that are just regular people yeah right and so now we're all starting to like awaken together. Like, like, you know, it's funny because the left likes to call themselves woke when they're the most fucking asleep motherfuckers on the face of the planet. But we are having a an awakening to how we can actually become a grassroots type country like we used to be.

Right. Which I think is fucking great man um you know we're what would we have heard let's just say it was 15 years ago and you're old enough to remember this right what would we have been talking about had the situation been going on 15 years ago with no social media we'd be fucking terrified we'd be in our basements we're fucking the world is going to end. Bro. The apocalypse.

It would be total control. Yep. And what's happening right now is like the like, I mean, you saw the video of Los Angeles, right? Where they show the fireworks. I was just thinking that. I thought that was fucking awesome. It was crazy. Yeah.

So and by the way, they should just go in and remove that guy from his post. Yeah. I'm just saying. That's not America. We're not america is not you do this i'm gonna fucking find you that was what it was like before it became america all right and i'm gonna tell you right now there's a lot of people out there they'll fucking die to not let it go there and a lot more than people think and so i think it's beautiful that we're having all kinds of people who used to identify with an elephant or a donkey that are now like, dude, fuck all this shit, man. I'm gonna start listing some motherfuckers with some common sense.

Yep. And that's cool as fuck because now we have a scenario where maybe not. I still think we need a lot of purging in terms of like getting rid of some of these. Like we need to be voting out every motherfucker that's of like getting rid of some of these like we need to be voting out every motherfucker that's been in office longer than fucking eight years of course on both sides that's the starting point the starting point this november is anybody who's been in office regardless of democrat or republican for longer than eight years vote against them that's my official position i don't care if they've done good i don't care if they've done bad

i don't care because we have to we have to start getting in people who are there to serve and not there as a career. Eliminate that conflict of interest. So, and that would be my second, my second executive order that I would put, I don't even know if you can make one on this, but I would, I would tell the motherfuckers eight years. That's it. You're you're back to society. Nancy Pelosi should not still be in Washington. Go be, go be productive somewhere nancy pelosi should not still be in washington yeah go be go pre-productive that's right somewhere else joe joe biden should that's and you know what if if if pelosi had those term limits she wouldn't be fucking eating fifteen dollar fucking tubs of ice cream and a forty thousand dollar fucking no she would not and and that's why they stay there

so you know there's a couple key things that could really change things for Americans. But the main thing is learning to see the facts, learning how to communicate, being okay with being wrong, voicing what you actually think, not what everybody thinks. Voting against all these motherfuckers that have been in there forever. I mean, that's a good starting point. You know what I mean? And starting to have actual conversations instead of just screaming and and you know and then people people say well you have to scream to be heard actually when you scream and break shit you just push everybody else away no one and no one that doesn't agree with what you're doing right now

is going to be open to agreeing with it that's the point is if you have to yell to be heard you're talking to the wrong people. That's right. That's right. Hey, you should, that's why these conversations work, right?

We can sit here and even if we agree or disagree, we're not yelling at each other. We're like, all right, yeah, let me, let me hear that. I agree with that,

but let me hear what you're saying. dude, I also think that the show, I also, I mean, I know this is true. Like if you look at what they show you on tv and what reality is it's two different things yeah like dude if you go out in the real world and dude we live in st louis man st louis

is a fucking is like the epicenter of a lot of the shit all right people don't hate each other on the street i'm just telling you right now a lot of people are saying st louis is fucking war zone it's uh we have some crime issue there's no question but i'm gonna tell you right now the black people and the white people here and all that they're friendly to each other they're nice to each other right we treat each other respect and for the most part 90 percent of the people here are fucking amazing humans and but the immediate and this goes for everywhere they show that 10 percent percent who are it's not even 10 percent it's probably like two percent less than that yeah they they zoom in on it and make it the

world view right do you know how many friends fucking hit me up when they come into town they're like bro do i need to like where do i need to stay what should i do that's what i actually reached out to emily i'm like hey i don't i don't want to get into protests or anything like that. So yeah. And yeah, it's, it, it's sad because you know, we're being brainwashed. Yeah. You know, we're attempting to be brainwashed. If we didn't have social media right now,

as much as everybody hates it, we would all be brainwashed. That's what I was trying to say. Media podcasting. I was taught. I was talking with a friend of mine, Pete Roberts. Um, and I was actually talking with him and his son and another, and one of his friends, and they were talking about kind of their viewpoints and they were saying, yeah, we're going to be ultra conservative. And we're

kind of thinking about why that was the case. Cause they say that this next generation is going to be like the most conservative generation there ever was and part of the reason is is because of access to information before it was like msn cnn and that's what resulted in this gap of of 16 to 25 year olds right now that are losing their fucking minds that's what it's created and if you're in that age group i'm not not picking on you. I'm just saying they didn't teach you the facts and they told you a lot of shit that ain't true. And you need to take it upon yourself to be on. That's right. Upon yourself to be a good leader amongst your little peer group. Because your peers, they don't know shit either.

You know what I mean? And look, dude, I'm not trying to pick on people. I got a lot of people that work here in this office that are of that age range. And they're all great people. But dude, I've talked to them. I've had conversations with nearly any of them. Most of them don't know shit about like, like, dude, when Ulysses S. Grant statue got tore down, which pissed me the fuck off. I bet.

They don't understand why I would be so mad. And they don't understand why. And then when you explain it to them, they're like, no way. They don't even understand the history. They don't understand anything about it. I'm like, dude and they don't understand why. And then when you explain it to them, they're like, no way. They don't even understand the history. They don't understand anything about it. I'm like, dude, yes way. They're like, no. So they tore that guy down.

I'm like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's just, it's, if I were fucking 16 to 25 right now, I'd be fucking pissed at my schools. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because dude, they were brought up to not think at all for themselves. Right. Just do this, learn these things, learn, you know, these,

these rules and that's it. And if you're a young man or woman in that age group and you're in, and look, dude, we've all been that age. We, we, we think we know shit. We don't because you haven't lived long enough to actually have the personal experiences to actually know the truth that's right and so i and bro i was the same like i thought i was all of us were that's i was that's the point i fucking it's immature the younger i was the stronger my opinions were on everything of course yeah the more right you were oh i was right yeah you you know you fuck it andy was right. You know what I'm saying? You guys think I think I'm right now, but I've calmed the fuck down. But, but, but the funny thing was, is back then I wasn't right. Right.

I was always, you were. Yeah. I thought I was. And so, you know, if you're a young person and you're trying to figure out how, what to think, don't dude, if you're just copying some shit off of somebody social and adopting that as your viewpoint, because you think they're cool, man, you're in for a long fucking hard ride in life. Well, you don't know. The other thing I noticed about social media is you don't know.

You don't know what you don't know that individual. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. You don't know if that meme was made up by people in China. Exactly. Or people in china exactly or people in russia they don't have no idea what's going on they don't necessarily have our interests in mind you have no idea yeah you don't think they can fucking make funny shit in english like bro this will be very fun yeah these people are smart they're not they're not stupid is that good so like but we have to get to a point where we're

able to critically think and observe and know what is actually going on and like i hear all these quote-unquote woke people being like all the history of the united states is fucking fake well okay you can i will give you this there's different perspectives depending on what side the fuck you were on. Yeah. Right. Like if you were, if you were, uh,

on the losing side of the civil war, you probably have a different perspective than the people on the winning side. I've got a friend in fact, in, uh, South Carolina. And he says most, a lot of those people,

they still call it the war of Northern aggression. Yeah. And if you look at that, what does that mean? That means they thought that they were right. the north was really trying to take trying to attack them that's their perspective and there's people that still look at it that way so depending on where you grew up what you learned yeah but that goes i mean that's like like international too right like there's a different perspective of someone who is an American soldier who is in

Afghanistan and someone who's from Afghanistan who was there when these motherfuckers just came in and started killing the bad guys. Right. Okay. So like maybe some of those bad guys was their uncle or their aunt. Or there was collateral damage. That's correct. And a daughter or a son got killed. So we have to be able as Americans to see perspective. So I will give you that there's always two perspectives on a scenario. Like, for example, like the big knock on General Grant was that he owned slaves. And that's true. But did you also know that his family, who were pro-slave, he didn't allow to come to his wedding.

Did you also know that when he was broke and had no money to his name, instead of selling his slave, which could have got him a couple thousand bucks at the time, he let him go free. You see what I'm saying? So there's perspectives. And this man, not only did he let that slave go free,

he then became the guy who went and actually won the war to free the slaves. Right. He is credited with winning the fucking war. It's General Grant versus General Lee. Yeah. That's it's a famous thing. Right.

And these but that's a perspective. Right. So you could shoot the perspective of he owned slaves. He was this, this, this. Or you could look at the truth and say what he actually did and say wow that's actually an inspirational story of personal growth right and that's what america's about well i think the other part about that too andy though is like people have one they'll take one little nugget of the truth and that's all they want to hear right they don't want to hear the other parts they don't want to hear the whole story you know what i'm saying and like i think that's what's happening right now is like no

they people want conversations they want to ignore all the other things they only want some conversations on the table bro we just talked about it an hour before the show about being from being sicilian yeah uh do you not know that sicilians were uh basically slaves to the the moors you know what color the Moors were? They're black. Black. All right. So, like, I'm Sicilian, bro.

Yes. That's a black army winning shit. Our family didn't immigrate to the United States until, like, the 1900s. Okay, yeah. Right? So, like, where do I fall in all this shit? Right? And so we have to be able to identify that there's all these different

perspectives and we're not able to do that right now. Well, and not to mention that the, the past is the past and it doesn't make it okay. It doesn't make it entirely right, but you have to recognize it. Well, and you have to look at it from the context of what it was 200 years ago.

Yeah. Everybody, 200 years ago, everybody was racist. Yeah. Everybody. And it wasn't everybody and it wasn't and it wasn't in today's terms from by today's standards right and it wasn't looked at as as a character flaw it wasn't looked at as necessarily wrong see i see that and this is going to catch some heat

i'm sure but see i see that as as a beautiful thing i see that as growth because we've evolved yes and recognizing that that's wrong no matter who does it. I mean, I think we also got thrown in there too. I mean, during those times, it was also socially acceptable to throw piss and shit out of your fucking windows. Yeah. Right into the street. You know what I'm saying?

So times have changed. And wipe your hand with your ass. Yeah. And wipe your ass with your hand. Yeah. I mean, you know, so times have changed, you know? And I think if we don't give that credit, if we try to forget about that, it's going to repeat itself. I'm just saying, dj we're going to go back i mean we're going to go

back to wiping wiping our ass with our hands because apparently the toilet paper is hard to get yeah right so like i'm just saying guys you know you know we have to do a good job in understanding perspective and growth and we're not having that right now in society and it's really hard to sit back and watch because there's always two sides to a story and just because someone did dude every motherfucker out there that's accusing like that's taking these stances on you know like look at the media right now they're calling mount rushmore a fucking racist right but three years ago but three years ago it was three years ago, it was beautiful. It was majestic. And the same people. Yes. Right. Yeah. Dude.

And this is great because they're all just alienating themselves and everybody that's intelligent sees it. Yes. Yeah, they're calling themselves out. Yeah. Right. Dude, I have so many people, my friends that are left guys, they're left wing friends. Believe it or not, I have a lot of friends

who are on the left and you know yeah no not really no not really they now they that was what i was going to get to when you said still no not really actually a lot of them have said yeah they said the same thing i said they said dude i can't fucking stand with what's going on over there right now you know what i'm saying and they're like we gotta we gotta purge that that side of it the the i the ideals of that of so of leftism um i don't know if that's the right way but like there's a liberal thinking the liberal thinking the ideals of it makes sense right yeah but the problem is is that a lot of it doesn't translate to real life do you uh do you follow dave rubin at all he's he's actually really interesting He's on the, I don't know. Do I or not? Uh, he, he's like a political

pundit, uh, conservative. He used to be very, very left-leaning. He considers himself a classical liberal. He's really interesting. He used to be very left-leaning, calls them lefties. And now he's kind of transitioned over this conservative side. He wrote a book called, uh, don't burn this book. Okay. And he talks about, I saw that book. It He wrote a book called Don't Burn This Book. Okay. And he talks about- Oh, I saw that book. It's a good book. We had him on the podcast and he's very fascinating because he actually goes line by line and

breaks down each of these thoughts from being transsexual and multiple genders to homosexuality to cancel culture. And he breaks down all of the issues and how destructive this far left-leaning ideology is and how bad and how rough of a road it's going to be if we embrace these as mainstream ideals. Which is what we're doing at this point. It's shifting more to mainstream. It's being attempted.

Well, I guess that's true. That's what we see, right? I think we're going to see the snapback of the rubber band pretty soon. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think, I mean, it's easy to attack. Like you said, I think there is good intent and there's good, like, you know, there's some good heart behind some of the left side.

No, no, no. I agree. I think that's the whole problem with them. The whole problem is their hearts are bigger than their brains. Yeah. That's the problem. So I told you about the two older people that I was talking to over the weekend yeah right and so like the one of them she's like but dj like we got to take care of the kids like we got to give resources to those kids

out there i'm like yeah okay so listen that sounds great right but shouldn't the point be is to where they're we don't have organizations that do that like shouldn't that be the goal is to not have that and we don't not we don't get to that point by keep doing it we get to that point by by changing who we're talking to i heard a quote it was something like if if you're if you're a conservative when you're younger you have no heart if you're a liberal when you're older you have no brain yeah something like that yeah that. Dude, look, man. And that's a whole nother thing. Like all of you guys who are conservative out there, you have to realize these people who are opposing you and arguing with you and canceling you and

fighting with you. Um, they think that they're correct and they think they're morally right. And you know, that morally, that moral superiority complex that, that the left seems to have is amplified by the media. But when you have a talk with someone in real life, usually those people, they actually have conservative values. And what they're doing is they're, they're either voicing something that they believe is an injustice. Okay. Which I can get down with. There's lots of injustice all the time. Yeah yeah and we got to fix them or they're doing it because their friends at work will not let them say anything else and that's not okay you know you know when when we're getting fired for for you know saying like i'm not gonna post

a black square uh in my instagram because i know that the funding goes to um marxist uh basically money yeah money laundering yeah money laundering and and uh you know uh police violence and or violence against the police i misspoke there um and all these things that it funds when it doesn't actually go to black people and you you're aware of that right like like i was, but then you get trashed and you get told that we're never shopping with you or we're never going to support you and you're a piece of shit. When in reality, now it's pretty much common knowledge that I was correct, right? So we have to get to a point where we're able to recognize these little things that these powerful people are trying to do to us to get us fucking pissed off at each other.

That's a really good point. I think just being aware of the motives, like what is the motive? Then that gives you the idea of, okay, well how do I act based on what I know their intentions and motives are? Dude, I don't take anything for face value.

No, you can't. Yeah. Cause you're being lied, misled, everything else and hit it against each other oh and that's the problem it's like americans and a lot of a lot of a lot of people right now on the left and the right they are putting an unreasonable or unearned amount of trust into people who are fundamentally bad people you know what i'm saying

like it's a reasonable thought for us to think the government has our best interests in mind you would hope that's a reasonable thought sure it's a reasonable thought and and the fact that we're like when we see these people on the media, like just blatantly fucking lying to us, which we see every fucking day, multiple times a day, painting perspectives to be something that they aren't, which we see multiple times a day, every day. When we see all these things happening, you know, you have to remember, like, I think a lot of people in America right now are thinking like, no, there's no way. There's no way. There's no way this could really be. Andy, you're conspiracy theorist. There's no way. no way i mean dude i've had people telling me that like no there is a way and it's because these people don't think like you yeah and so this meant this mentality that all these

people think like us is actually what's creating the scenario right like guys i hate to break it to you man not everybody's good well did you see that any of that uh epstein documentary that came out yeah i saw that and i'm like jesus christ i mean i saw a couple episodes of it and this is one of the most fucking connected dudes in a fucking planet i mean i was blown up like just to see what was happening i'm like holy shit i had no idea there were human beings like that bro that's what i'm saying crazy but that but the you know why why they got to keep this woman alive is because there's so many more of those motherfuckers and i'm not saying just child abusers molesters rapists killers yeah i'm not just saying that i'm saying that it's a it's a reflection of the

mentality other people are there to serve them regardless of what aspect we're talking about serving them. It could be a total, like dude, those women that did that with him, that he fucking fucked up their whole lives by being a dirty old fuck, bro. He doesn't think twice about that.

No. Like you guys got to understand this. Those kinds of people, they don't have that. They don't about that. No. Like, you guys got to understand this. Those kind of people, they don't have that. They don't feel guilt. No. Like, dude, that that girl or that 15 year old girl or 12 year old, whatever the fuck. That's just a piece of fucking meat served to serve him. Right.

There's no humanizing there. And people don't see because people can't relate how that's even a possibility because they're not like that they start to deny that it's the truth when when all the evidence that's available points to that being the truth the other thing i know that we do is we put people on pedestals they don't belong yeah right like i i've even experienced that like i i was down i was just taking a little mini vacation with my family a couple of weeks ago and somebody had stopped me on the street. Like, oh, bro, I love everything you say. And I was very flattered and grateful that they tuned in. Yeah. And then they said, oh, but like we talked a little while don't put me on some pedestal and think that I'm perfect, that

I have everything figured out because then you're giving too much of your own authority to me. Yeah. I don't deserve that. And you need to be careful of doing that. Dude, I get it. I get it every day. You know, people, people, they think because you've been successful in one area that you're just as

successful in all areas, which isn't always true. In fact, most of the time it's not true. Right. And that's why, you know, I, I, I take the opposite road of what most like, I guess, I don't know what your personalities right or influence or personality whatever the term is right i i try to like let people know like hey dude uh this shit is just as hard for me as it is for you i fucking hate it that's why people resonate with yeah but but but dude that's just me letting go of my ego because i can very easily the easy ego move would be yeah dude i'm the fucking man like you don't

have what I have blah blah blah but that's just not the truth and all these other motherfuckers that you all know they ain't got no shit that you don't have either I promise you because I know them all right now one of them now they'll come in when I first some of these dudes have been so big in life that they think like they're gonna come come in and I'm going to be like, Oh, this guy's Jesus. No, I fucking see right through that shit, bro. All these dudes are the same. And that's the big, that's the biggest lie being told right now in society, especially on Instagram is that people have this like superhuman ability that other people don't have. Like, I remember thinking like when, back when was you know 16 17 i knew i wanted to be successful and i knew i would do it in business um but i always thought of it like it was a lottery right

like am i going to get to be one of the guys that gets to do it but now looking back it has nothing to do with that it has to do with your ability to wake up and execute regardless of how you feel that day and that's it Cause everybody feels like crap. That's right. No. And dude, I just said that yesterday. Uh,

all the great things that have ever been accomplished have been accomplished by tired men. I heard you say that everything. So we have to start understanding there is no magic out there, guys. You got to stop searching for it. You got to stop putting people up on pedestals. You got to stop letting people blatantly lie to you. It's fucking wrong and it hurts society and i i on a positive note i think it's cool

because i feel like everybody is sort of waking up look maybe slowly but man i've had so many guys that would identify as hardcore Republican or hardcore left. And they're like, dude, fuck all this shit. Yeah. We're about America. And everybody's starting to be like,

damn dude, we're about America. We're about America, you know? And the ideals that should be dude is America. Perfect. No, it's not. It never will be.

It never will be. Never. And because we can always do better. Just like you'll. That's why I always tell people, I'm not successful, dude. I'm working to be, you know, and that's what America needs too. It needs the attitude of we're working to be. And a lot of people will get mad and say, well, I've been waiting a long time. Well, you know what, man, this is a process that's reality.

And I think that the lesson that's been learned through all of this shit that started back in February with us is that, dude, we got bad leadership across the board. And some of us are going to have to fucking make a change in our lives and start fixing the fucking problem. Yeah. You know, like there's. I like the I like what you're saying about it's it's just a work in progress. I had posted something about, I don't know if it was the Pledge of Allegiance or National Anthem, and somebody said, oh, man, I can't believe you dissed on the National Anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance. And I said, you know, it says liberty and justice for all. They said something.

And that hasn't happened. I'm like, yeah, maybe not like perfectly. I can see that for sure. But a pledge is a promise. It doesn't mean it's fulfilled. Yeah. It just means that I promise to work towards that. Right. And I think America has done it better than any country that has ever exist on the face of the earth. That does not mean it's perfect. That does not mean it's free of any blemishes or injustices. Yeah. It just means that

we need to keep working towards it because we've pledged to do it. Dude, I could see, you know, I could like, because a lot of black Americans have that viewpoint, the viewpoint of, well, you guys celebrate independence day, but that wasn't, you know, for us or you celebrate this. And that wasn't for us because not everybody was free. I can understand that i get it i totally understand that but but also it created the opportunity correct for us to do that right because it's a move in the right direction if you go look at any other country in the world it's worse than us totally and if you go over to africa look it's really fucked up all right

there's still slave trade in libya every fucking day there are still humans bought and sold every fucking day in libya every day right now we as americans have done we have to be able to acknowledge it we've done a great job at becoming better there's no reason to pull the plug now and burn it the fuck down right we need to learn our lesson and say all right the next thing we clean up here's step number two or whatever right here's step number one get rid of these motherfuckers that have made a career out of ruling us and robbing us. And then we'll get back to the ability to move forward again. Well, I just think, I think, honestly, when you look at what these politicians are doing, again, on both sides of the aisle, it's a de-evolution, right?

We're not evolving in the right way. We're devolving into something that we moved away from in 1776 that's right or at least we took a step away from ryan that's people's greed right like like dude look everything sounds good when you ain't got nothing okay and you're like fuck yeah dude when i get in that office i'm gonna fucking do it except when you get in the office now all of a sudden everybody that's there that you thought you hated they're coming up to you and they're saying hey man congrats yeah if you need this this is the guy to call yeah if you need that this is the guy and they have their own little fucking thing going on in there you guys got to understand this this is why you don't see

republicans coming out and fucking attacking the democrats they're letting their cities burn that's why because dude they're all in the special interests together and they all look after each other and dude, and I'm not saying like, let's storm and overthrow the government, but I think that Trump is the best chance we have to fix what's going on. That's the truth. And that's not me like sucking his ball.

Everybody's like, Oh dude, you fucking suck. Trump's nuts. No man. I'm just saying he's the guy that represents the least of the qualities of both the right and left you know what i mean he's a he's a moderate dude he's very you know i don't know man i'm just so i'm so ready for people to start thinking and to start understanding what America is supposed to be

and start voting for that. You know what I mean? Like, bro, I love America. You know what I'm saying? There's no reason for me to not love it. Do I get hurt sometimes by some of the shit that I see? Yeah, dude, it makes me disappointed. It makes me disgusted with some of the things, mainly the media and the politics right now. I think if we had a fucking honest view of the people the people are pretty fucking good yeah you know what i mean do we have some fucked up people yeah dude we do that's just why we need a system to regulate it well and a lot of that stuff here's the funny thing is like you see like even with um uh injustices from police officers, right? And unnecessary violence and people get upset about it and they should,

they should. Yeah. And also the system's working. Yeah. Right. Like this, like those people are being brought to justice. The system, I'm not saying it's not never going to happen, but it seems to me that at this point we're actually doing a pretty good job

of bringing those individuals to justice well the only caveat to that though ryan though is that yeah the system's there the system's in place but we got people in that system who don't let it work and that and and prime examples is like what's going on with george ford right that ag and and minneapolis he's a democrat he he purposefully upgraded that man's charge, that police officer. And now he's not going to get convicted for that. Yeah. Because of something,

he charged him with the wrong crime. Right. So, I mean, yeah, we have a system there in place, but until we start holding the people who have to make sure that system works accountable and get pieces of shit like that,

AG out, it's going to keep happening. Well, not, not only that, then you look at vetting with police officers and training requirements that they're not getting. But you're not going to help by defunding it.

This would be a simple problem to fix. I said it on episode 44 or 45. This is fucking real simple. We have an $800 billion military budget. We have a 45, what is it? 45 billion police budget we could take 100 billion from the military budget put it into the police budget get them the training get them the equipment get them higher payroll to attract better people and we will fucking fix the police

system in fucking three years but dude we can't get we can't it doesn't even have to be from the military there's it could be from anywhere but I'm just saying the police are underfunded, not overfunded. Exactly. And that's the problem. And it's only getting worse. That's correct. And we have to work to create a, a, a system to where we're going to attract good people

into it. Like, right, dude, when I grew up being a police officer was super honorable. Oh yeah. Like, dude, if you're, if my buddy's dad was a cop, you looked at him like he was awesome he was something yeah you know what i'm saying yeah and that's not the case anymore and regardless of the issues right you could argue the facts because the facts don't really point to any of the shit anybody's saying anyway that's the truth okay nobody likes to talk about that because it's uncomfortable but let's just take it and say, okay, we could all agree that being a police officer is not desirable. So if it's not desirable, how are we going to get good people to do the job?

You see what I'm saying? So we have to make that position a desirable position on a position again. And we have to do so by paying them more, by creating a system where they can be in control of their pay scale. Meaning you could come in when you're 21 years old or whatever. I don't know. What is it? 21. All right. You can come in and you're 21.

And by the time you're 35 or 30, you could be making 250 grand a year as a cop. How many motherfuckers would join then? Oh yeah. And then, and then you make their incentives. Um, you know,

Hey, you got to hit this training and that training and this training and you got to have a great record yes okay now dude now we have a totally different scenario now we have great people fighting for an in-demand job right which now not everybody gets it right but like dude why is that not being discussed because i'm gonna tell you right now i'm a fucking dumbass from missouri and i can see that So what the fuck, you know what I'm saying? Like this would be an easy problem to solve if we just had some people that actually wanted to solve it, which we don't. Right. So dude, thanks for coming down on the show, man. This has been an awesome conversation. I think people are really going to like it. Uh, tell people where they can find you and basically what, you know, what your

deal is. Cause we didn't really hit that in the beginning. And a lot of people, you know, obviously the show has grown since the last time. So we should have done this in the beginning, but yeah, I just enjoy the conversations. I mean, ultimately I just want to give men the tools they need. That's it. You know, whatever they want to do. If they want to be a father, I want to help them be a more engaged father. If they want to be a business owner, I want to, I want to connect them with people. I want to have conversations with men like yourself so they can learn from guys who are successful in that route. If they want to serve in their communities, if they want to get strong, whatever their thing is, my job is to create all the resources and conversations and everything

available to do that. So where can people find you? Order of man.com or order a man, wherever you listen to this podcast and you'll find us. And, uh, man, we've had, it's been awesome. I could not have imagined five, five and a half years ago, whatever it was, it being where it is today, which is just a testament to, you know, I feel like I've done some things right, but it's also a testament to how much this message is needed and how, how men need to be served in this way. And it just wasn't available before. No, bro. You're doing great work. Thank you. I mean, this is, uh, I love having you on. I love our, our, our conversations and I wish we could do it more often. Yeah. I

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