REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 566. Q&AF: Donald Trump’s Arrest, Friendly Competition & Employee Personal Development

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

In today's episode, Andy answers your questions about what former President Donald Trump's arrest means for our country, his thoughts on friendly competition when he gives out a lot of his content for free, and does it pay off to take employees to personal growth seminars or if its better to teach it yourself to your employees.

What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realest. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality i'm here in my garage hey this is your first time listening we have shows within the show all right this is q and a f this is where you get to submit your questions and we give you the answers you can submit your questions a couple different ways the first way guys, you can email those questions into ask Andy at Andy for seller.com, or you can go on YouTube, go in the comments on the Q and F episodes and drop your questions right there in the comments. Uh, other times you tune in, we have real talk, real talk is just five to 20 minutes of me giving you some real talk. And then other times it will be a 75 hard versus 75 hard versus

is, uh, where we bring people in. Uh, it's what you heard yesterday versus 75 hard versus is uh where we bring people in uh it's what you heard yesterday actually with me uh we bring people in uh we talk about 75 hard we talk about how it changed your lives and then we talk about how you could change your life as well if you didn't know 75 hard is the initial boot camp phase of the live hard program which is available at episode 208 on the audio feed for free it is not a paid program it's one of the most popular programs in the world to get your shit together. And we give it away for free. So go to episode 208 on the audio platforms. Get that program.

Get your shit together. Come back and see us. And you can get on our level. How about that? All right. So you probably noticed a little different setting today. But we figured we'd do something a little different. I have not only DJ here, but we also have the pastor of disaster, Mr. Von Kohler. What's happening, bro? I can tell I've been on

the show a couple of times. You know how I can tell that? How's that? Because my follower number has increased, but then I'm also getting visits from the FBI. Oh yeah. Yeah. They're knocking on your door yet? Yeah. They're knocking on my door. I can tell, tell you know they're surveilling me so they go it's good to be part of the family it goes from following to sending weird people to your house yeah to knocking on your door yeah so depending on i don't know have you had any weirdos yet uh oh you know there's always weirdos okay well you might be moving up good anybody that gets on real af moves up on the list i don't have my own tinfoil hat though you. I don't have my own tinfoil hat, though. You know? I don't have my own tinfoil hat. We can get you one.

Well, we can fix that. Yeah. I mean, what do preachers... You've been on Real AF enough now where I think you qualify. I think so. What do preachers wear on their heads? Because you got the crown. People haven't seen my new one yet.

Oh, I've got a... What are they called? Oh, you got a new one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what that... I should know this since I'm Catholic, but whatever the Pope wears... Did you just do a cone? Is that called a miter? Like a bishop hat. Like a bishop's hat? The pointy one? Yeah. The pointy one? Yeah. I don't know what that, I should know this since I'm Catholic, but whatever the Pope wears, is that called a biter?

Like a bishop hat. Like a bishop's hat? Yeah. The pointy one? Yeah. The pointy one? Yeah, I could get one of those. Yeah.

Yeah, Tino, hey, we know a guy. Yeah. He makes it. Tino hooked it up, bro. He did. He knows a man. I gotta show people, I feel like we gotta have something.

Did we send Tino anything back? Fuck, you gonna make me look like an ass right now? Hey, Tino, check your mail, bro. We're sending you some shit, all right? The dot was in like an ass right now hey you know check your mail bro we're sending you some shit all right what's in your left pocket yeah all right so uh it's q and a f man yeah so yeah it is man i got i got some good ones for you yeah you like that you got that trademark no i think you can't trademark that it's common words oh that's true i mean trump he tried to trademark uh you're fired i think didn't he he did yeah i remember that and if he didn't succeed i'm pretty sure you're not

gonna actually trademark that no he tried it's common use oh yeah because then you wouldn't be able to fire anybody yeah i'm letting you go i don't know all right the fuck out all right let's get into it man andy i got some good ones for you, brother. Cool. Question number one. Andy, on the last episode of Real AF, Trump turned himself in. He was arrested. There was a mugshot that has been released.

What do you make of his arrest? Well, I have a lot to say there. I think there's a lot to say. I think everybody has a lot to say about it apparently um you know first of all i think it's a very negative thing uh for the government to weaponize the justice system um because what they're failing to realize is that the pendulum is already swinging back and by arresting him and it was a terrible strategic move for them yeah um it was a i actually think the day he got arrested he won the election that's what i think that's a bold statement if the elections statistically if the elections are fair yeah which they're not but i

think he got enough people i think a few things happened he had had, first of all, his mugshot is going to become probably the most famous photograph in the history of culture. Yeah. All right. Trump already had the outlaw, the outlaw persona. Right. But now what we're seeing and what we've observed over the last few days is we're seeing people who voted for Biden come out and say actively, like I voted for Biden, but this is bullshit. And I'm not, this is not what we want. This is not America. And so the feeling that I think it's creating in the, in the population

is actually very good for America because they're seeing how corrupt these people actually are. And it doesn't matter if you're Democrat or Republican, when you see this sort of thing happen, and then you think, okay, well, what's going to happen if these people get back in power? That's a scary thing. Because now we're talking about a pendulum swinging back, and ultimately who's going to win with the pendulum swinging back and forth

is the person who kills all the other people. From doing it again. Yes, and everybody understands that. We've seen that in history over and over and over again. And I think even the most asleep Americans are starting to wake up and realize, holy shit, this is real. I've had a lot of messages from people

over the last three days where people are like, dude, I fucking hate Trump, but I'll vote for him because of what they're doing to him. And so what I think they're making is a terrible strategic mistake. Uh, and I think all the people that are doing these things are exposing themselves to who the corrupt people are and who the corrupt people aren't. I think we're at a time right now where the actions of these people in the justice system, um, whether they go along with the persecution or they go along with the actions of these people in the justice system, whether they go along with the persecution or they go along with the defense of Trump,

we're very clearly going to be able to identify who is who, who are the criminals, who are the tyrants, and who are the regular people. And, you know, I think that can only help Trump. Yeah. I mean, actually, because, you know, what frightens me, man, and we talk about this, obviously we know this isn't CTI, but let's relate it. You are an entrepreneur.

You're a business owner. You have multiple businesses. It's safe to say that you know strategy, right? And you're very conscious, especially when it comes to brand equity and marketing, right? You're very conscious on those things. And when I see this, it's like they don't care about the optics. It's very obvious.

They're all in, bro. They're blatantly, they don't care about the optics, right? And so it's like when you're making strategic moves like this, as bold as they are, not caring what the optics look like or whatever the public perception is, what conclusion does that bring you to looking at that uh well it tells me very clearly that they are all in yeah like and that's something that the conservative base and the common sense base of america is figuring out um you know for

the last three years as we've talked about these things um you know a lot of people you know as you know uh where's your tinfoil hat right you know andy frisella and dj they're fucking domestic terrorists they're conspiracy theorists they're irresponsible right um killing grandmas and yeah right and and now people are like like dude how many messages are we getting of people like the one that we put on last cti where the guy's like dude i i didn't listen to your show because of this and i realized i was wrong specifically the ct yeah dude look i'm getting literally hundreds of those messages at this point in time so first of all i'd like to say welcome back uh to you guys you know now now all the people who said fuck you you're only good for personal development you're only this and that you should stick to this those people are now coming around to realize that like i actually wasn't off base and uh you know so

welcome to the cti shows guys that's the first thing i like um but that's a that's a snapshot of culture yeah right that's showing that across the board even the people who detested that sort of talk because those people were not nice to us. They were very mean, you know, fuck you. You're, you deserve to be in jail.

You're irresponsible. You're killing people. You're a piece of shit. All those people are now apologizing, not all of them, but the ones that with integrity are. Um, so that's a snapshot of culture waking up.

That's how I see it. And so when I think of like how it affects the brand and how it affects brand equity for Trump, I think it solidifies him as an actual Patriot. And people are starting to realize that this motherfucker is like somebody that we need to vote for, or we're going to lose America. And,

you know, to you guys who say the vote doesn't matter. I actually agree with you in a lot of ways. I think there's a 10 to 20% fudging of the votes that they're able to get away with. But I think with the momentum that this man is building behind him, there's no way to be able to overcome that deficit. And that's why I like those of you who say, I don't believe in voting. It's necessary for you to vote in case they do try to steal it because that way there'll be evidence of their efforts. So, I mean, there's a lot to unpack here, dude. But ultimately, this is gas and Trump up,

just like we talk about on CTI all the time. It's putting the juice to them. And these guys who are running against them, they don't have an option but to persecute at the highest level because they understand that if they don't get their way, the accountability that's going to occur from that is going to be severe i think they're also trying to like it's almost like they're poking the hornet's nest right like because he's facing like over 700 years or something like that facing the death penalty potentially right and if they go

through with that wouldn't that be the perfect uh the perfect play to get the reaction from the american patriots well i think that's something to note dude i think it's very important for people to understand that it these people are trying to instigate a violent reaction or a mob reaction from the patriot community in america and uh we'll know when it's time yeah we'll know when it's time ain't time right you know what i mean we'll know and everybody needs to be smart everybody needs to be peaceful and everybody also needs to remember that like all your fellow citizens and your relatives and your friends who are you know more left-leaning than they have been right those people are all starting to wake up

and you guys have to make room for those people to wake up. Like, it doesn't do any good for, like, these people to come to us and apologize, right? It doesn't do any good for us to be like, hey, well, fuck off, bro. You're an asshole. Like, it's like, no, dude. Well, great. This is awesome. Welcome to the team, you know, because that's what this is. This is us versus them.

All the humans and all the citizens are on the same team, and the top-level tyrants are on another same team and the top level tyrants are on another team and the top level tyrants don't just exist here in america they exist all over and they're organized they organize themselves and like sit in organizations like the world economic forum and nato and these different organizations that have been typically seen as good organizations but the only reason they've been seen as good organizations because we've had people representing our our office that are affiliated with them. And Trump is the first guy that actually isn't.

Trump is the first guy that went in and said, Hey, fuck you guys. We're not doing any of this stuff. And this is the reason that he's being persecuted. And I thought one of the best clips from the last, uh, CTI that we did besides India landing on the moon.

All right. Was, uh, was the clip, uh, by the black gentleman in Atlanta. Yeah. With the shirt. Yep.

My new favorite shirt. Yeah. What's it say? Nuggets for Trump 2024. I can't say it. Sure you can. No one knew you said it. Anyway, listen, here's what I actually think is going to happen, dude.

By the way, I'm smoking a cigar. It's not weed. I actually think the shirt of Trump's mugshot and then that shirt that that guy wore are going to be worn everywhere. I think we're going to see people. And dude, that's going to create a cultural phenomenon potentially that changes the entire landscape. Because why did Trump actually, why were they able to cheat the election? Well,

the reason they were able to cheat the election is because of this thing called the silent majority. The silent majority wasn't vocal the way that they should have been. Right. So they were able to convince people that not as many people were with Trump than what we thought there were because half of them were fucking quiet. Cause they don't want to offend anybody. Well, and the mega hats were too divisive too at that time i i yeah i still don't like me

i don't like the mega slogan dude i don't like make america great again and by the way trump didn't come up with make america great again you know who came up with that ronald reagan that's a reagan slogan all right so when we talk about make america great again the reason it didn't resonate with a lot of fucking people was because for a lot of people, America's never been great. Right. Like there's a lot of black America who says, what do you mean make America great again? When was it great? Was it great when we were slaves?

Was it great when we were persecuted? Was it great when we were getting fire hosed? Right. And now black America is waking up like that gentleman in Atlanta. And he's like, look, dude, this is the justice system they've been using against black men the entire time and that's that's a valid point and so like dude over the last three days I've seen more black Americans start to stand up and realize that Trump is actually fucking the opposite of what they've been told and I think what these two these two shirts specifically I think a year from now you you will see white people, black people, and everybody wearing that shirt and both of those shirts to create a fucking movement that we're like, dude, we're all getting along.

We're all like, fuck all these people. We're back to America. We can laugh at each other. We can make jokes about each other. But we love each other and we're friends and we're going to work together. Yeah. What did you think when you saw that? Yeah. you think when you saw that yeah well this is what i thought about all this is that uh you know anybody familiar with the end of the movie braveheart knows that william wallace is of

course captured by the english and edward longshanks and they're gonna they're gonna execute him but instead of just executing them they put him through this pretty rigorous torture uh cruel and unusual punishment and when he first is carted out the crowd is completely against him right they're they're mocking him they're jeering him but over the course of the the execution when they see man this guy is really being uh cruelly treated but he's bearing up under it in this really heroic and valiant way all of a sudden the crowd starts shifting and instead of them jeering at him they start saying, they start saying mercy, mercy. And he ends up inspiring everybody.

Now, I am not saying that Donald Trump is William Wallace, but it's the same effect is happening. That's correct. Is that people are looking at Trump and they're saying, wait a minute, like there are people who hate him. There are people who are treating him, treating him way beyond what he deserves. There's all sorts of foul play going on. And what it's doing is it's kind of generating some sympathy.

They're seeing how he's handling it, and they're going, okay, maybe this guy's not so bad. And they're saying, if he is being treated this badly, What are they going to do to me? What are they going to do to me? And who is he threatening? And so, again, I want to emphasize, I? And who is he threatening? And so again, I want to emphasize,

I'm not putting Trump on the level of, of William Wallace, but I am saying that the same effect is happening. Yeah. Oh, you know, what's interesting for those of you that are going to ask, this is a Padron 64 torpedo.

It's a good cigar. Yeah. It's great cigar. And I got onto these because of my friend, Derek Barton. Thanks, Derek. torpedo it's good cigar yeah it's great cigar and i got onto these because of my friend derek barton thanks derek um i think you're 100 right i think that's the social phenomenon that's gonna that's being created right now he's being made to be a martyr it's a terrible strategy by the left uh by the communists okay let's be real and you know a lot of people who don't like trump are being like

bro yeah i didn't like his tweets and he definitely wasn't presidential, but what the fuck, right? And that's the narrative that I'm hearing and seeing and observing. And I'm hearing it from people that don't necessarily like what you and I do on the show every day. So I think that's a big thing. Interesting point.

So do you know who Dean Stott is? The name seems familiar, but no. He had him on the show a few times. He's been on twice. Twice, yeah. Last show he was on, we talked about kilts the name seems familiar but he had him on the show a few times he's been on twice yeah um last show he was on we talked about kilts because he's uh from england and uh his wife is from scotland and we talked about the tartans i didn't know what a tartan was so they actually went and did this is i gotta tell this story i was hoping. Yeah. Cause it comes up and it came up in the conversation.

So they did the research on the Tartan for my heritage. All right. For Sella. And what they found is fucking incredible. It's wild shit. So they found that my name for Sella came from a tribe in Rome that actually went through France and went up to Scotland in the year 1100. And they were actually called Frazilli in Rome,

went through Spain, and their name changed. And eventually when they got to Scotland, they were called the Fraser Clan. And the Fraser Clan was one of the most vicious warrior clans in Scottish history. And the Fraser Clan, the leader of the Fraser Clan, was actually executed with look at me with william wallace by king edward i yep and the phrase this is my ancestor

wow my fucking ancestor the phrase you've heard laugh your head off comes from when they executed this guy with william wallace because when executed him, he fucking laughed in their face. And it started the phrase. That's fucking crazy, dude. Yes. That is crazy. I mean, dude, even go to your grandfather, your dad's dad. Like, I mean, like your bloodline is full of fucking.

It's probably why I don't give a fuck. Dude, it's pretty. I mean, you talk about universal purpose, man. Like, I mean, I don't know how many other clues you need other than that, but that's some pretty crazy stuff. Well, look, man. I thought that was incredible. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I could read the whole story. It's a long story, but like, that's fucking incredible. So anyway. Yeah. So my long lost fucking relative from like 1500, okay, was one of the dudes that was killed with fucking William Wallace by King Edward. That's crazy. Yes.

Wild. Wild. That's fucking insane. Yeah. Yeah. Speechless. My people were pretty cool too. Were they?

We weren't always slaves. Cause they did one on me too. It was actually pretty cool. For the record, the reason I was looking down was because you're telling this great story and it makes me think of uh when i was going through my cancer and i was watching this uh documentary uh reality tv show called men in kilts and uh it's really great if you guys should check it out but they told the story of apparently the reason that they played bagpipes back in the day was that was like a, that was meant to get the, and I'm going to get it wrong here.

So some of you who are Scottish or Irish are going to hate me for this, but I think it was, it was meant to get the Scottish. Isn't isn't bagpipes Scottish or is it Irish? I'm not sure. I believe it's Scottish. Okay. So it was meant that it was like a, it was like a, a, a, a war anthem. You played the, the bagpipes to get people psyched up for war.

Well, on D-Day, there was a guy, I mean, you know, the Normandy invasion. There was a guy who I guess was one of the Scottish regulars, and he didn't even have a gun or any sort of armament. He just played the bagpipes, and he was like trying to inspire everybody else around him. It's kind of like how in Revolutionary War they played drums. Yeah, but it's kind of crazy. Like what kind kind of you know what it's going to be this time fucking young dolph fucking right it is but to to have that kind of like a confidence and future and and uh and i got you it's just amazing to me that there would be somebody who would like literally

storm the the beaches of normandy with nothing but a bagpipe and it made me think of that some people are just have that kind of moxie you know we all have it it's been suppressed let me read you this email so this is the email that alana uh stott sent to emily describing this this tartan the frisella name descends from the frisillies who come from the clan Frazier. The first recorded in Scotland around 1160. Simon Frazier owned land in East Lothian and Aberdeenshire, giving the name to Frazierburg Aberdeenshire. This is about 40 minutes from where I was born. This is what she said.

And I might mispronounce some of this stuff, guys. The Frazier clan's motto is Zezus Prest, meaning I might mispronounce some of this stuff. Guys, the Fraser clan's motto is Zay Zeus pressed, meaning I am ready. And the clan's crest is a buck's head. They are descended from the norm. The Norman Knights originally crossing the Anjou district of France. And the name comes from the French Frizzoo family who themselves originated in savage tribe called the Frizelli in Roman Guard.

The name comes from the French word strawberry, fraise, so that the strawberry became part of the tribal badge and then on to the Frazier coat of arms. Sir Simon Frazier fought with both William Wallace and Robert the Bruce before he was captured and brutally

hanged and drawn and quartered by King Edward I. That's crazy. That's fucking insane, dude. Okay. The Frasiers at the Battle of 1544 suffered devastating losses with only five Frasiers surviving the battle, and it was named the Battle of the Shirts due to the heat

causing the men to remove their kilts. So they fought with their dicks out. Sounds about right all right the fraziers rose to fame during some of the most important battles in scottish history including the battle of hulladin in 1745 so they were killed down to five people and then in 1745 have re-established themselves and helped them win this battle. There are many cool stories about the Klan, including the phrase, laugh your head off, which comes from the execution of Simon Fraser

when he was captured by King Edward. And during his beheading, he kept laughing at his captors. That's crazy. That's fucking insane. That is. That's a great story. My bloodline's a bunch of bad motherfuckers.

Real talk. I mean, listen. Yeah. Well, listen, if they get me, I'll be laughing too. Fuck them. I'll laugh your dick off. Yeah, that's right. That'll be the next phrase.

I'm going to have no fucking pants on, and I'm going to be laughing. All right. Anyway, that's what I think. No, that's real shit, man. That's a cool story, huh? Yeah, that is a very cool story. Yeah, that's real shit, man. Guys, in the comments, let us know what you guys think about the Trump arrest.

Let us know down in the comments. Let's get on to question number two. Got it. Question number two. Andy, I was curious about your thoughts on competition. With all the free advice you give out, do you ever worry that someone will use it as a blueprint to move in on your space, or do you welcome competition and know that most people

simply won't put what you say into action or do you think about it in a completely different way altogether i would love to know your point of view on this um yeah that's a great question uh my my views on competition have evolved um when i was a little bit younger i think back when we were doing the original mfceo i wanted to fucking cut everybody's throat and step on their fucking faces. Um, I realized that nobody likes you when you act like that. So, uh, you know, I, I felt very alone and I started like really examine how I looked at people and looked at competition and how I look at it now is very different than I looked at it even 10 years ago or eight years ago ago or even, you know, maybe five years ago.

I see us all as being on the same team. And I do not believe that there is a limited amount of success. I think there's unlimited amounts of success. And I do give away all of my secrets, either on the show or if you join RTA, I give you the in-depth shit. And there's a lot of guys who own companies competitive to mine that are in RTA. And to their credit, real talk, there's some of the biggest nutrition companies that are out right now. Those owners have sent me emails or letters or messages and thanking me for the information because it's helped them build

their companies. And the reality of that I think is amazing because I think that's creating a situation where people are going out, they're creating good ethical companies, they're employing people, they are helping people, they're doing business the right way. Because you have to remember, when I got into the supplement industry in the nutrition space it was very much an offshoot of the porn space it was just a bunch of hot girls with you know jacked up dudes yeah with like a bottle of protein right yeah and and people saying you know to do hard work or to work hard that was not a thing it wasn't it wasn't a thing Hey, you're going to have to fucking work really hard. We, we started with that back in like 2013. And now the whole industry is like that. Everybody understands that if you take a

fucking supplement, you're going to have to fucking work hard, which is an ethical viewpoint, right? Because the reality is it doesn't matter what you take. It's not going to do the work for you. There's nothing out there like that. So one think it's it's created and pivoted the industry in an ethical way which i'm very proud of but two i think at this point it's actually it's actually pivoted in a business culture as a whole uh to that line you know we have thousands of people in the arte syndicate and all these people are running similar types of businesses to the kinds that i run but in their spaces. So now we're changing business culture.

And when I look at competitors, some of my very best friends own competitive companies. You know, like Honey Rambod is my very best friend that I talk to on a daily basis that's not related to me. I talk to him every single day. I've talked to him every single day since you've been around me no i talk to him every single day i've talked to him every single day since you've been around me i've been around every single day he owns a competitive company called evagen he fucking helps me with my physique and my training and we talk business and i help him with his business and we talk back and forth and trade ideas and there's other guys like that too in the industry that i have a ton of respect for. And bottom line is how I look at it now is this, like, look, dude, I've, I've done, I've done very well. I've made myself a very successful human

being. Um, it's, it, first of all, when you're the only person that's winning, it's not that much fun. All right. So it's more fun when your friends are winning. And unfortunately, who you're going to become friends with in your business is probably your competition because they know the most about you. They're in the same fight. They understand what the fuck is going on. And a lot of people hesitate to be friendly with their competition because they're afraid that they're going to share their secret. Listen, dude, you don't have any fucking secrets, bro.

There's no secrets. It's real simple. Do the right thing. Do the best you can work really fucking hard. Find the little things here and there that work and go with those things. And they're not secret. And so the first thing is, is I like to help my friends succeed, um, that are in the same industry as me directly. Like I will get on the phone with people who own other companies all the time and fucking be like all right well how can i help you know that that happens every single week uh not honey you know other people and um and by the way honey reciprocates that like he has ideas too i'm not just saying there's not there's a trade yes so so the first thing is is you know you want to be you you want to be friendly with people and help them win because when you help them win, then you're not the only one winning. All right.

And then there's the karma aspect. When you help other people win, even when they're in competition, now you're putting out in the universe that you fucking love winning. And when you don't, when you put out in the universe that you love winning, guess what happens to you? You win more. All right. So there's that.

But here's the most important part of that, of my thinking on competition. I enjoy being friends with people who are like, that push me, that are getting good, that are being better, that are doing great things. And it inspires me to like go hard. You know what I mean? And like, dude, when you're already successful and you have a lot of success, the, the amount of drive that you have, it's just not the same as when you had nothing. It's hard to find that inspiration. Correct. So like when you look at your competition as a, as somebody that you're going to make better so that then you're going to get better, that's a healthy way to look at it. And it's also a fun way to look at it

because now you're friends, there's a healthy competition, you work together, you both win more. And when you both win more, you both win more. And that's how I look at it. And I think of American culture in business, especially small business, was more like that. We'd have a lot more success across the board.

And of course I want to fucking win. Like, dude, I'm in competition with everybody I'm around, bro. There's not a human being that I'm around, period, that I'm not trying to beat in every single way. Like, I'm trying to be wittier than you. I'm trying to be more jacked than you. I'm trying to be funny. I'm trying to make more money.

I'm trying to fucking, I'm trying to do everything better. But that doesn't mean I don't want that for you. That just means I'm trying to do the best that I can. And if someone else is also pushing now, all of a sudden we're in this dynamic where it's like, and you're leveling up with someone. Right. So like, you know, that's kind of my, that's my overall view on it. I think, I think it's healthy to support people. I think it's good. I think it creates, uh, relationships. And I think, um, I think it's good. I think it creates relationships. And I think, I think ultimately you're way more fulfilled and way happier in that scenario when you approach competition that way, because here's the reality. The reality is you're not going to get everybody. You're not going to get all the

customers. You're not going to get all the money. You're not going to be the most jacked. You're not going to be the most rich. You're not going to be the, you're not going to be the biggest dick. Like that's the fucking reality of life. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try right so um and it's cool to be around people who are also winning because you learn from you get better they learn from you and it creates great friendships and and that was something i didn't understand the earlier part of my career you know yeah i agree with everything you said the only thing i would add would be that you know urban meyer can teach me everything there is to know About the spread offense

But I'm pretty sure he's going to do it better than I am So you can give people the ingredients But you're still going to make a better cake than most people Yeah, but You know what I'm saying? No, totally, dude But if I could teach somebody Like, look, man

Nick Saban had a situation where The guy at georgia i believe used to be on nick saban's crew yeah kirby smart right and kirby's beaten it a few times right and nick's nick's like like you could tell when when kirby beat him no nick was fucking happy about it yeah he was he was emotional about it like bro that's a fucking huge deal yeah and like you when you're winning at a level of like when you're talking about like you don't have any fucking like thing to worry about you don't have any like you're not starving you can look at it differently you know

what i mean and and the key is to look at it differently when you don't have anything because then you actually rise up with people yeah so i want to go back, because when you first answered this question, Andy, you said that that's not how you were. And I want to ask you this. Like, do you, what was that mentality that you had early on where it was fucking, it's kill everybody, right? Like, would you say that that was necessary, though, right? Like, was that a necessary part of that journey is to have that type of drive at least in the initial beginning yeah i do i think that when you don't have anything i think it's really fucking you're desperate you're ready you like had you been just open cool i didn't know

anything then bro like now i know shit right you know when i when you don't know shit you're insecure about what you don't know so you're more aggressive towards the competition when you know shit and you're confident in your abilities. I mean, let's look at my level of success that I achieved being like that versus where I'm at now, completely different. Right. And I don't think I'd be here right now had I not made that evolution. So I think it's important for people to recognize that competition is an amazing thing. It's actually what drives all innovations, what drives all developments, what drives all growth. And if you could be friends with those people you're competing against it drives you you

make amazing friendships because they all know what you're going through you can all relate um and then ultimately those people end up making you stay on the path and get better and better and better down their path yeah that's beautiful because what i'm getting is like basically like that mentality of the aggressiveness fuck everybody that's gonna get you that'll get you pretty successful but there is gonna be a like a governor a restriction on that limit as far as how much further past that you can go with that mentality and i talked about this when we did my show really when he was on real af a while back um yeah it is gonna limit you if you maintain that type of personality yeah because you're gonna get on a level you're gonna try to level up and there's all these people above you on the ladder and you've

got a poor attitude where you're like fuck you guys i'm gonna fucking kill you and what happens is you know the people up on the ladder because you have to network and you have to work with people and you have to use resources together um and it can't just be fuck everybody they'll kick you off the ladder bro you'll get to a certain point and the people above you will look down and be like yeah and they'll all look at each other and be like that guy's not one of us and they'll kick them one two three kick yeah and they'll all kick them off the ladder and so that's that's what people don't realize and you do see this with a lot of young entrepreneurs i see this on the internet now talking all this crazy shit and it's like bro the problem that you're talking all this shit yeah yeah, you might be able to make, you know,

you might be able to build a $100 million company like that, but it'll never be a billion-dollar company. You know what I mean? Yeah. And just one more thing. And you'll be lonely. Yeah. And you'll be pissed off all the time

because all you're looking at is every single fucking buddy's move and you're like, fuck that guy, fuck that guy, fuck that guy. And you're pissed off all the time. It's just not a way to be. I want to ask you this too, because I feel like, because I've seen some of those moments where people are getting kicked off the ladder, right?

I've seen those moments and we ain't got to go into detail, but I think what's always funny, at least from the few times that I've seen it, those people that are getting kicked off, they have no idea. Why? That they were kicked off and by who?

Yeah. They think it's just. They think their shit's just stalling out, dude No, nobody ahead of you wants to help you and they refuse to help you because you're an asshole How ignorant is that of awareness? Like is that a lack of awareness thing? What is that? Yeah, I think nobody ever said like they never came to a realization of like oh shit I got to actually work with people to be successful Look, dude, people talk shit about Obama, right? Like they say Obama oh, Obama's piece. And I agree. I don't like him.

Dates a man. Yeah. Okay. But, uh, you know, he said something back when he was in office that everybody got pissed off about, including me. And he's like, he was talking about your business and he's like, you didn't build that business. And he's actually right. Cause you could only do so much as one person.

You have to have people that help you. And those people that help you are not just your employees. They're not just your family. They're not just your friends. They're also your competitors. And you have to get to a certain level to understand that. And most people never get to that level. And it's sad because a lot of people will build a good business, be angry doing it,

then get kicked off the ladder and be more angry because their business isn't progressing like it should without the awareness of, like, dude, the because their business isn't progressing like it should without the awareness of like dude the reason your your business is not progressing like it should it's because all the other guys that hold the key for you to keep moving up aren't giving you any access to it it's your fault yeah it is your fault yeah you know so don't be a dick man my observation is that the truly successful people are really able to do that that godfather distinction between its personal or its business like in the political, you look back in the 80s and you had Ronald Reagan, conservative Republican president, and then you had Tip O'Neill, who was, you know, left-leaning Democrat House speaker, right? Well, in their personal lives, they were really,

really good friends. In their political lives, they were ardent enemies. And people used to like scratch their heads going like, how is this even possible? And they asked Reagan about it one time and he said, oh, cocktails in the evening, pistols at dawn. And I think that's the mentality that successful people have. I can be personal friends with somebody. I can wish them well. I can do whatever I can to contribute to contribute to their their success but when it

comes to going head to head yeah it's gonna be a battle i'll tell you this the top 10 people i talk to on a regular basis eight of them are competitors of mine that's reality in some way shape or form and you know what we don't give a we're all and then when i win and i text them i say yeah dude listen what happened they're happy when they win i'm happy it's it's fun dude it makes it way more fun yeah i really want to access this follow-up i don't think i've ever i know i haven't actually this before but when when that that whole phrase like going back to von's point the whole phrase business is business. Business is business, right? What situation was there where you first learned that that came to be a true saying for you?

This is just business. When did that come for you? There's very few situations where I think that's actually true. I think that's a viewpoint of people that actually have never experienced it. I think when you make a decision in business, there's always a personal aspect to that. When you have to let go of an employee, there's two different perspectives that you have that suck. They both suck. Here it is.

This person's not doing their job. They're hurting they're, they're hurting your culture. They're not, they're not rowing the boat the right way. They don't deserve to be here. Okay. But you also know they have three kids at home and you also know that they have bills to pay. And you also know that if you fucking fire them, they're, they're fucked. Okay. On the other hand, you have to look at all the people who are rowing the boat. Then you have to look at all the people who are rowing the boat and you have to look at all the people who are on the team doing what they're supposed to do and working as hard as they can to get ahead and if you don't let go of this person you're hurting these people over here all right and that's a very that's a tough spot that most people in business or as an employee of a company, they, they assume that

that thought never actually happens. And the reason that, you know, uh, a lot of people have their jobs is because there's grace given to that discussion in the business. Right. Yeah. And so like I've, you know, I think there's guys who run their business as a business, like, Hey, just fuck them. Let them go. I agree with that. But I think if that's how you bit, if you run your business that way, you're never going to get the bought in culture of true human potential of creative buy-in amongst your, amongst your movement,

whatever that might be. So I think it's just, you know, I think, and sometimes you get burned by it. Sometimes you give somebody too much grace and they fuck you. That's business. Yeah, that happens a lot.

But at the end of the day, the net positive is far greater in my opinion. Yeah, I love that, man. I love that. Guys, Andy, our third and final question, question number three. Andy, this is a question about employees' leadership. Andy, does it pay off to take employees to leadership or personal growth seminars, or is it better to just teach leadership from within the company?

I think both. I personally think it's better for you to learn the information and then be the teacher of the information because then the value is coming from you, which means they reciprocate the value, right? So what I mean by that is if, you know, I learn something from Urban Meyer, right, about leadership, then I go teach whatever i learned and i might say you know i learned this from urban meyer but i teach it okay i think when you outsource the i think when you out you have to be careful when you outsource the personal development and a lot of people like to outsource

it because they don't want to put the time and energy into actually learning it themselves they say oh i'll just send my guys toocko's leadership school and they'll come back perfectly. But here's the problem. When they come back, perfect leaders, they don't want to lead for you. Right.

Okay. So there's going to lead you actually, or they're going to go somewhere where they respect the leadership who actually taught him that. Right. So like you have to think of it from that aspect. I think there's definite value in sending your team to learn from certain organizations and certain people. But I think that should also be coupled

with you becoming the best teacher of personal development and skillset that you possibly can be. And I think the reason that a lot of people like to outsource their employees to other people is because they don't want to do it themselves. It's very hard. It's very difficult. It takes a long time. Uh, but what they're short sighted and seeing is that they're create, they're missing a big opportunity to create some reciprocating value, uh, with your employees and your team, you know, what do you think? I think influence isn't just what is said, it's who is saying it. And I, point, like, you can get information from anybody. Like, anybody can watch videos from Jocko or Tony Robbins

or whoever happens to be the guru. But for you to actually exercise influence over your people, you have to be the one who's providing the influence. You have to be the one who's teaching because you're teaching within the context of a real relationship. I mean, I would argue that as great as those guys are, they're never going to have the impact that you do as the leader of your company, because you're going to, you're going to not just provide information. You're going to provide incarnation. You're going to literally embody it in your day-to-day actions. And that's going to exercise infinitely more power and influence

over your people than any guru ever could. Why do you think it is that so many people, instead of learning this stuff themselves, want to outsource to other people? Do you think it's just laziness or do you think it's incompetence or do you think it's lack of confidence? Like, what do you think it is? I think it's a little of both. I think people don't want to work hard sort of by nature. You have to force yourself to work a little harder. But I also think it's a little both. I think people don't want to work hard sort of by nature. You have to force yourself to work a little harder. But I also think it's probably people probably assume that leadership is having all the answers, which I think you would agree is not true. Leadership is not having all the answers.

It's being willing to find all the answers or to work on it until you get the answer. And I think people just need to give themselves a little bit more credit and say, okay, I don't have to have all the information, you know, in my head. I'm a work in progress, but if I show people, and you're good at this, if I show people that, you know, just because I don't have the answer doesn't mean I can't find it. I think that's incredibly inspiring because you're taking people along on your journey and that's what inspires people. I think another thing too, and I agree with that. I think another thing too with this is that a lot of people think that leadership is almost like an authoritarian role, like a dictator role. When in reality, leadership is not about having any of the answers. It's about being able to understand what are the

answers. And so when you're to understand what are the answers. And so when you're sitting with a team and you've got 10 people in the room and you have an idea, well, those other nine people have an idea too. And your job as a leader is to have enough humility to let all those ideas be heard and then pick the one that's going to benefit your movement or your company or your team the best, regardless of whose idea it is

and ultimately i think that's where leadership's either gets respect or doesn't get respect based upon how well they navigate that dynamic because when we think about traditional bosses or ceos or leaders what do we think of you know we think of that meme where it shows like all these people pulling that big brick and the guy sitting on the brick is yelling at everybody or, and it says boss, right? Or the leaders up at the front of the line pulling the brick, right? And then that one says leader. That's the truth. The leadership, true respected leaders are people who do not have all the answers, but

act in what's in the best interest of all the people in their organization and the organization's goals, regardless of that comes from their own brain or other people's brain. And I think a lot of people, when it comes to this topic of sending and outsourcing their skill sets, I think, you know, a lot of people have boss mentality. I think they think that they're going to, you know, check out on Thursday and come back on Tuesday. And, you know, because they sent all their leadership people to, you know, echelon front to learn leadership, which by the way, is an awesome fucking program. Um, they, they think that they're just good and, you know, that'll

never work. That'll, that'll never work without your piece of it and so um you're either going to learn how to lead and you're going to learn how to teach and you're going to learn how to create reciprocating value amongst your team recognize the best ideas or those quality people who are also who want to go win they're going to go win for somebody who does yeah andy i'm so so let's say I'm a business owner. I'm listening to this and I actually just filled out the fucking invoice to send my team to, to, you know, this offsite training, right? Like I don't have the leadership skills. I understand there's a void. Where do I start? I would start by going with them. Why don't you sign yourself up too? Yeah. Yeah. Cause I was going to the lake. Right. Right. Exactly. Okay. Exactly. Yeah. Okay.

I love it, man. Look, dude, reading too, man. Like, there's a lot you can learn from reading. You know, people, there's plenty of people out there who go, I don't read books. I don't read books. Well, you're a fucking idiot. Right. Because let me tell you something.

There's only two ways to fucking learn. Two. The first way is you go out and get your brains beat in. You learn from your own experience. You know what the second way to learn is? You learn from other people's experience. And you have books that have thousands of years of human experience in every single aspect of reality that people are unwilling to tackle or look at or, you know, read or absorb because they think there's no value in it because you have some of these dumb asses on

the internet saying books are outdated or i don't read books well if you don't read books bro i'm gonna crush you it's gonna be it's gonna be brutal crushing all right because i'm learning from 17 other fucking leaders who have all been through the same shit i'm going through business guys ceos i've heard all their experiences of it And you're just going off of what you think. What you think might be right. Bro, you're going to get your ass beat that way. Okay. So anybody, anybody who says books are overrated.

I don't read. I don't do this. Bro, don't ever buy anything from them. Don't listen to them. Don't fucking nothing. Those are egotistical people who are trying to pretend like they have all the answers when they do not. All right. Which is a third part of this discussion. Cause that's the third part,

right? The third part is the people who capture all the information and then decide it's all theirs and they didn't learn it from anybody. And they're Jesus. Nope. Nobody likes that leader either. All right. So my advice is, and I don't care who this offends. If someone tells you that they don't read books or that they don't fucking look at books, that's not someone worth listening to because they're only giving you 50% of the available information, which is based off their own experience.

And I bet probably someone who has that, in most cases, doesn't even have that much experience. So that's why we talk about reading 10 pages a day of personal development in the live hard program it's a massive massive massive tool that most people don't utilize you know there is no difference between someone who can't read and someone who won't read there's no fucking difference it's the same thing okay so you most people out here are going through life as an illiterate person because they're choosing

not to utilize the available resources around them think how ridiculous that is i'm choosing to go through life illiterate it's not a good idea no no it's not guys i love it man i love it this was nice yeah this. This was nice. Nice little change of pace. Yeah, it's cool. I mean, it's all right. Yeah. Well, guys, hey, listen.

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