REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 61. #MindBlownEmoji - Part 1

Episode Date: August 8, 2020

With all the conflicts and controversies raging between different factions in America today, it is easy to forget that we are all human. That means we all make mistakes, we all fall short of our ideals, and we need to get a helluva lot better at humbling ourselves, empathizing with others, and trying to be better. In this episode, Andy and the crew dismantle the cancel culture, explain why it's a threat to unity, and identify some real good things that have come out of all the bad sh*t going on.

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Got more cars than diddy. I only weigh 180, but my watch cost 250. What's up, guys? It's Andy Puccella, and this is the show for the realest. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society, and welcome to Motherfucking Reality. Guys, today we've got a good show for you uh we haven't recorded it yet but i know it's going to be really good because uh dj dj god is in the house what's

up dude dude it's good to be here it's great to be here i'm here every day yeah i know how great it is i i love being back here i'm gonna start by by sort of some might say kissing your butt a little bit. You need me to bend over? I just showered. Guys, give us the room real quick. By the way, we also have DJ who has figured out he hasn't made up his

own nickname yet. It's D-Jizzle. D-Jizzle. D-Jizzle. That sounds a little sexual. D-Jizzle and the driplets. The best I got. The best I got. Take and leave it and then we got we got uh mr sal over there what's going on sal what's going on uh so von yeah proceed with the uh with the booty uh admiration he ain't got no shit motherfucker i've been training glutes like a mofo dude this is this is andrew got abs and i got ass there's no yeah like i don't have abs i'm convinced that that god i was made without abs i would challenge you on that and just say you're i don't know every other night habit of bacardian diet is probably the

reason that you don't have abs i actually can't believe that you would fucking dismiss my every night ability. That's disheartening. I didn't get abs or ass. I got something else. Oh, yeah? What'd you get, bald head? Good ankles. Quick wits.

Exactly. Not the looks. No, so let me lead into this with a little story. Our neighborhood in Manhattan is great. There's just the best people. We all get along. Now, we are talking about Manhattan, Kansas. Right, Manhattan, our neighborhood in Manhattan is great. Like there's just the best people. We all get along there, you know, now we are talking about Manhattan,

Kansas, Kansas. And what's funny is that we've got these neighbors down at, you know, like two doors down there, you know, they're, they're decent looking people and, and they're really cool.

They're from the South. Well, the other day, uh, my wife was on, was on Facebook and she was on somebody's profile. and I was like, dang, who's that? She said, that's our neighbor Kristen. I go, wow

it is crazy how different people look on Facebook and social media but then when you meet them in person so many people just, it's not that she doesn't look good in real life. It's just like walking yourself into this. Here's how this is going to work. That's a time yourself into this. Here's how this is going to work.

It's a time bomb, bro. You know how this is going to work. Well, I know how it should work. If you were smart, you'd go over and put a pineapple in her front yard. I know all about that from Newtown. Yeah. Yeah. That's a St. Louis thing.

What's that mean? You don't know what pineapple means? For real? Oh, come on. Actually, the truth is it's really sneaky because it means two things. It means hospitality or it means swinging. Yes. Oh, really?

Yes. So the joke is. So I've been doing this wrong the whole time. The whole time. You ain't got a big enough pineapple, bro. So we've derailed. I'll get back to what I was going to say. But Newtown here in St. Louis, which is that.

How do you describe it? Sorry, dude. I can't help this, but I didn't know why I was getting all those pineapples. I thought people were just being fucking nice. That's the invite. So Newtown is basically a- It's like Pleasantville. Yeah.

They plopped it in the middle of cornfields. It is like- The whole concept behind Newtown is that the modern age, it has lost that sense of community and closeness and neighborhood. So they built a whole housing development, like a subculture, and where the houses are close. There's a local delicatessen. There's a little church that's in the middle of the whole house. They have their own post office. Right, and everywhere you look, there's pineapples.

And I noticed that, and I'm like, what's that all about? And they said, well, whoever is the marketing director for Newtown is a genius because pineapples can either mean hospitality or what Sal thinks they mean, which I did a little research, and it does mean that. But, yeah. How did we get on pineapples? Well, because you were going to place a pineapple two years down. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

Were you trying to give me a pineapple? No, no, no. So I'm not- Were you trying to give me a pineapple? No, no, no. So I'm not in any way saying that in real life. Tim, right now, let me kiss your ass. I'm not in any way saying that in real life. There is no way a pineapple will fit in my ass. Oh, my. DJ, on the other hand, prefers it to go backwards.

You know, guys, I got to stay employed now. All right, all right, all right. The situation is different. You didn't say it. We said it. All right, all right, all right. Hey, we get yelled at all the time for talking over each other. No, no, no, no. So what I was saying is I'm not saying that that the woman who lives two doors down from us is not attractive in real life.

What I'm saying is there's such a radical, you know, with so many people, there's such a radical difference in their appearance. But I said to Kasha, I said, you know, it's kind of funny, though? I said the one person who literally looks the same in real life as he does on social media, who is the same in real life as he is in social media, is Andy Fussell. There's no social media Andy and real life Andy. It's just the facts. It's funny you say that because I get accused a lot of people like,

oh, dude, who's this character you're trying to play? I'm like, bro, trust me, whatever you don't like, it's way worse in real life. No, but I mean, it's really refreshing. And I miss that, dude. So I just want to say that. And Sal, you're like that, too. I was just going to say, fuckhead. What you see is what you get.

It's in the DNA. No, it is. And I would say, yeah, you guys got that honestly from your dad. I would say most of the people that I would say most of the people in our little community are pretty much like you're forced to be that way around us because you're. It's kind of like the busting balls thing we were talking about earlier. Yeah. If you were far from that, you get called out. Oh, yeah.

You're going to get you're going to get ridden pretty hard, probably hard enough to leave. Dude, the thing is, too, like we were talking before we got on the air, we were talking a little bit about the cancel culture thing, right? The cancel culture only works on people that fucking aren't the same as who they are online and in real life. Yeah, it's the catfish. That's right. So, like, you know, you could say whatever you want about someone,

but if that's who they are, it's who they are. Right. You know, and I just feel like, you know know the authenticity that you bring on social media actually you know if as long as you're who you are you're not going to worry about well we talked about that earlier too before though we were like you know so many people they build up these expectations of what this person is supposed to be like right you know and it sets so high that they just get disappointed because when you meet them it's like oh, oh, shit, that's a little different. It's like everybody thinks you're tall, dark, and handsome.

Exactly. And they meet you like, damn, he's even taller, darker, and handsome. We were talking the other day on cardio. DJ and I were just talking. It's like people do that in social media world. They build these people up to be whatever it is you know that they want them to be right and the minute that they find out that you aren't that all the time you know you're you're a piece of shit and dude we have this mentality in in society like i was i

was the reason what i was we were, DJ and I were talking about like live events and live groups and like what it's like meeting people in real life versus social and all these things. And I was explaining to him that the truth is, and this, this is just not a popular, it's not going to be a popular thing to say. Some people are probably gonna get mad about it, but it is the truth. You know, I meet a lot of people who, you you know they want to come meet or whatever they have this idea of what i'm about or what we're about or whatever and the the the mentality is so high in in their

head of what they want it to be that by meeting your hero it's almost a disappointment you know what i'm saying like and and it makes you feel like shit and it makes you not want to meet anybody. Like, I can't imagine what it would really be like to actually be like real famous and constantly have people disappointed in you because you're not a super fucking person that people think, you know? observing what's happening right now in society in terms of like how harshly people are judging other people for all different kinds of things it's hard it's hard to watch because you know it's almost like if you say one thing and you know back in 2007 you know people erase you from the history books you're not allowed to evolve as a person no it's crazy all of your mistakes and all the things that you said but shouldn't that be like uh shouldn't shouldn't we be able to look back at people who said and did ignorant shit back in the day and say fuck they're not that person anymore like that's a good thing well i think

i think that's hard to do though because if you don't know their intent that's the that's the key yeah you can have somebody that makes a mistake oh guys i'm so sorry but you're still making the same mistake there's a lot of the intent behind it right yeah i mean i think that's the problem where we're at but i mean i think in my opinion i think to vaughn's point the whole the whole point is to progress yeah you know what i mean and so the idea is that if you looked at something in 2007 you would say hey you know what guy was a shit bag or a guy did a shitty thing or he's an alcoholic or he's a drug addict. Look at him now.

Exactly. Kicking fucking ass. And I actually. In fact, I got a great story like this. Yeah, you do. With Judd. Yeah, that's right. My buddy Judd.

You know, he's, he's, you know, an ex-drug addict. You know, he played college baseball, college graduate, had a great job, got hooked on the wrong shit, went down the wrong path. And I mean, wrong path like like wrong path like sal had to go down to the fucking crack neighborhood and literally go in a fucking crack house when he was fucked up and pull him out oh yeah those were some interesting nights yeah and long story short you know you look at him now he's a successful businessman he's got a great business he's married he's got two beautiful kids He's rocking and rolling

Like You can't judge the motherfucker His whole life Not only that Not only that He You know Dude

If you needed that guy You called him He'd be there in two seconds Right now He'd be here And it would take him Six minutes to get here Yes

It's probably seven Because he's slow It's sad that we've evolved To this point in society Where You know Whatever the worst moment of your life is you're branded that yeah you know and that's dude that is you guys out there who are

like jumping on the train of of the cancel thing and like boycotting everybody and this and that just remember when the universe gives you gives you what you get or i mean sorry it's going to give you what you put out there and eventually your, is going to give you what you put out there. And eventually your time's going to come. This is why, like, now, dude, I will say this with an asterisk. Yeah. If these motherfuckers are doing shit with kids like everybody's saying. I was about to say that, yeah.

I'm not with that. And I honestly think those people should be dealt with in the harshest possible way. Yep. And you know what that means. No, I think that's the other side of that coin, as Sal likes to say. You know, like, I mean,

I feel like there's certain shit that we have to agree as a society that is unacceptable. I can't accept that. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm also, I'll be the first person to say, dude, like, I live by, you know,

we are the choices we make. You know, and being able to own those choices, you know, and like, okay, yeah, you said you're sorry, but that doesn't fucking fix it. You know what I'm saying? So, like, in cases like pedophiles, I'm sorry. I don't care if you feel like you turned you said you sorry but that doesn't fucking fix it you know i'm saying so like in cases like pedophiles yeah i'm sorry i don't i don't care if you feel like you turn your life to god but there's just a certain part of me i can't accept it to that point though i

mean historically there's a reason why at at public executions for for people that did heinous things there was a priest or there was a pastor and so the the idea was yes there is forgiveness from god for anything. Any one of us can be forgiven, but there's still consequences. And I ain't God. And I got to give you the forgiveness. So, yeah. I mean, there's a big difference between saying somebody is forgiven by God.

You still have to pay a consequence. Right. Like as far as the world is concerned. But to your to go going back to your story was his name, Judd. You said Judd. Judd. Yeah. OK, so going back to your story, let's suppose at that moment in Judd's story, when he was at the lowest, that he had some interaction with somebody of another race,

and it was on his cell phone. And let's say he just used some racial slurs. So in the context of that, he's living his worst life. He uses racial slurs. 20 years later, he's an upstanding guy. He's an upstanding, he's an upstanding, uh, CEO has got a family. Somebody picks, picks that up from that time and says canceled. Right. I mean, isn't that how it works? Yeah. Yeah. That is how, isn't that scary for all of us? You know? Yeah. Because it, you know, and a lot of people are going to, you know, say, well, you should never say, and I agree that you shouldn't, but I also understand that like every single one of you listening is a, is guilty of some fucking shit. That's it. We all have our own glass house. That's right. Everybody's many, you know,

the goal should have to have as few rocks in your front yard as possible. However, we all got some rocks and you know, and don't throw them. Like that's the thing is like, dude, part of being a good person in my, in my opinion, I'm obviously not the good person police, but you know, I think that it's important for people to, you know, have empathy to understand that, you know, Vaughn, you got your struggles. Sal's got his struggles. DJ, you got your struggles. I got my struggles too. And we haven't always executed humanity as that's the point of being human right you're gonna make mistakes you're gonna learn from it you're gonna evolve and what you should do is

take those lessons that you learn from whatever they are what you know it doesn't matter what it is unless it's pedophilia i don't like i'm sorry just being honest i can't I can't justify that in any way um but you know it's sad man we've been we've been programmed right now to attack attack attack attack attack and now we're to the point where you know people are afraid to speak they're afraid to say who they want to win for president that like we can't even have a discussion anymore. The labels. And I did a story on this on Instagram the other day. I don't know if you caught it,

but it was about the labels that everybody's throwing around. You know, there's a lot of danger to be considered with, with all these label labeling that's going around of, you know, racist and misogynist and narcissistic, sexist, narcissist, homophobe all these labels and you know it's so it's become so the wave of this labeling of other americans regardless has become so big that it's almost like you know 10 years ago 15 years ago like if someone said hey you're

fucking racist bro you were losing your job you were you were being dealt with for real like your your life pretty shitty now they all the dean huh follow dean yeah right exactly so like and i'm not excusing anybody's behavior but i am saying that we need as a society to be aware that the more we falsely accuse people just because they think differently than us, the less those the less power those labels have. And that's a problem because what do we do about the actual victims of those things, the actual cases of racism, the actual cases of sexism, the actual cases of, you know uh misogyny or homophobia like how do we know when it's real versus when it's just shit yeah because yeah if everybody's a racist nobody you follow what i'm saying yeah absolutely this is you know as adults i think it's important that somebody start talking about how our obligation to the next generation because Vaughn your kids Sal your kids DJ your kids that are coming down the pipe they're going to have

problems with these issues they're going to face these issues in real world when they're 20 30 years old how are we going to know if they're being a victim or what the, who's doing what if everybody's this, right. You see what I'm saying? And it's very, to me, I just could be real, dude.

I felt, I've been very disheartened by humanity lately. Um, by the lack of empathy. And as much as I, you know, you go back and listen two years ago and I make a fun of Gary saying it so much.

It's, it's the truth. You know, now we back and listen two years ago and I make fun of Gary saying it so much. It's it's the truth. You know, now we're in a situation where. There is none. Yeah. And it's this side or that side. And then inside those sides, there's separation. Right.

Like how like how much of a of a liberal are you? Right. Are you are you wanting are you a marxist are you wanting to you know take down the world are you a a standard democrat who's probably a pretty good person and just believes in a little bit different lot are you in the middle like yeah we're dividing ourselves in all these subcategories that create, that are creating these arguments online. And then we throw in on top of it, the misinformation that's being dealt with us, um,

through the media channels and through the government and through celebrities and people of influence, man, it is just like, it's a lot. It is. And it's, what's crazy is that I think we've really lost the ability to be nuanced in

the way that we evaluate people. So like the people that are really, really the worst victimizers of the whole cancel culture, I really want up in dealing with another human being. Have you ever used a phrase that was demeaning to them because of maybe their race or their sex or whatever? You've never, ever done that. And the follow-up question that I have for them is, do you see a difference between a generally good person who in a moment of weakness uses a racial slur versus someone who's just straight out a racist. So to me, we've lost that ability to do that. I think the average person, if everybody on the planet was condemned to five years in prison, if in fact they had ever used some sort of slur about another people group, another sex, another sexual orientation, everybody on the freaking planet would be in jail.

I'm sorry. I agree, but the problem with that, the stuff is promoted through our rap music. It's promoted through all this stuff. So it's like, when is it okay? When is it not? And how am I, even as a black guy, I can't tell you what to say. I think the bigger issue, I mean, the bigger

question that I have personally is like, why exactly did being called a racist, like when and why did it lose its weight over years? You know what I'm saying? There's a lot that goes into it. I can only speak from what I observe. And, you know, like, dude, I've been getting called a racist fucking nonstop since the Black Square issue. And only because, if you go back and listen to that episode, I explained what the BLM organization was on episode 44 and 45, right when the shit happened. And I know, because you and I are both very familiar with it, because we're from Ferguson area, St. Louis area, where Ferguson is 15 miles up the road.

And we've dealt with this organization before and we know what it's about. And, you know, just because I wouldn't contribute to the fundraising of that organization because it's not for black people. It's for white Democrats and people who are Marxist, socialist, communist nature. So I made a decision for our company that we're not going to put money in that group's pocket. That's not what's right. And we took the money and instead went directly to the community to help,

which we always do. But dude, I get called a racist every day for that. Every fucking day, I'm getting people in my DMs, you're a fucking racist. And it's just like like you ask why it doesn't carry any weight that's why it doesn't carry any weight because you can't even talk about other avenues of of solutions other than what the narrative is you know because people are just so slammed to believe that narrative, right? It's forced down their throat. Right. And, you know, and I think, like I said, you know, I think I said it on a couple shows

ago, you know, I think a lot of people are genuinely pretty good people and they believe that other people are good too. And they take it at face value. They take everything they do at face value. And so what happens is, you know, people end up trusting people that they shouldn't trust or believing in things that they shouldn't believe. And, you know, because they've invested their belief into those things, then when the opposite information shows itself, that's actually true, they can't separate their

own ego from the path that they chose, right? Because nobody likes to say, man, dude, I was wrong, you know, or I was misled. Guys, if you find yourself in this situation, you have to understand that it's not your fault that you were misled to believe something that isn't true. That's somebody else's fault. You understand what I'm saying?

Yeah. It's not a sin to be deceived. No, it's not. And if you have a good heart, it's more, I think if you have the better heart you have, the more easy it is to be deceived. For sure. Because you have belief in people because you believe that everybody's like you, right?

And wants the same things you want, but there isn't. There's a lot of people out there. And this is not a political statement. I'm just saying in humanity, whether their cause is the left or the right or business or wherever you go, there's people that do not have good intentions. And we have to admit that. That's the first thing we have to admit. Not everything can be taken at face value.

We have to read between the lines and look at what people say and look at where, you know, follow where, you know, like in the BLM case, you know, follow where they're putting their money. You know, it's very easy to see if you just want to detach yourself

from the emotional, you know, commitment that you've made to that to that cause. Right. Because it's a very it's a very morally good cause. Like we want equality. Yeah, we want. It seems like we're not getting the equality that we deserve. OK, I'm down with that fuck man i think most people that are not put they they've purposefully picked the most abrasive things to do to represent that brand at the blm brand to divide people as much as possible you know do look at what they're doing about kneeling with the national anthem right like that's so abrasive and absurd to americans that have any kind of understanding of american history or pride right like sal and i's biological grandfather my dad's biological dad who was killed to have freedom what about the millions of people that were killed in all the wars what about the hundreds of thousands of men and women black and white that were killed during the civil war to free black people so that

they could become equal citizens there's lots of people that truly believe in the cause of equality that will not fucking kneel during the national anthem and that's the that's what's getting lost here you know if you if there was a different way to protest and all the money wasn't going to these fucking super groups i think most americans would get down with that cause that's truly what i believe but instead they designed it in a way to where you know somebody who truly believes in america like myself and a lot of other people dude it's like asking it it's like asking your your family it'd be like me asking you Sal which kid you gonna fucking give up I gotta take one of them which one you see what I'm saying like it's a very conflicted emotional decision to make like

yes I understand that we have an issue here and I understand that we we want to solve it and I understand that but I can't fucking do that. Right. And it's designed that way on purpose. Absolutely. I believe, sorry, DJ, real quick. I believe that they intentionally created a litmus test that they could force on people. And this is what I mean by that.

A litmus test is like basically saying, okay, well, if you're really serious about success and entrepreneurship, you should love Crush It by Gary Vee, and you should absolutely listen to all of his podcasts. That's a litmus test. And if you don't, then they say, oh, well, you're not serious about it. And it's completely arbitrary. It's kind of insane that the people who are in positions of influence right now in the whole conversation of race have created a litmus test.

If you really care about race, you will use the phrase Black Lives Matter. That's right. And you will kneel. And if you don't, you're the enemy. And if you don't, you are the enemy. And what's scary is too many people following that. So from my standpoint, there's a verse of scripture that basically says that the whole group of the people of God is from every tribe, tongue,

and nation. And basically what that means is it's all color. It's all people who love God. Well, suppose I'm just someone who, who, and I happen to be one who says, well, I'm not comfortable with the phrase black lives matter because of its associations with the organization, but I'm okay with the, every tribe tongue and nation i'm totally down with that yeah no you're you're you're okay with the cause and statement black lives matter right that's the brilliance behind the fucking name that's why it's been it's been purposefully installed to create what we're seeing right now to create a forced litmus test yes and and so dude it you know it was really opened my eyes at that conversation

we had with my buddy mike in our pool a couple weeks ago remember that yeah so uh trotter yeah my buddy mike trotter who is a fucking great dude he's a a black guy. Okay. And we were all in my pool and we were talking and, you know, things got a little, a little bit heated for a minute because he didn't understand. He was mad at DJ and I, for some of the things that we had said about that and not really understanding what we were saying.

And do we had a great conversation for probably two hours. Yeah. And at the end of it, he was like, fuck man i never even like even thought to think that what was his major issue he said he said no no anyway i've always respected you but now i respect you even more yeah because once you understand the problem was he didn't like like he said he didn't understand the difference between black lives

matter the organization black lives matter the cause of the the statement right he didn't understand the difference and so when you know andy said that and i i validated it right he was like well hold on dude like but he but he trusted you right yeah no that was the biggest thing i thought i thought it was a beautiful moment actually no it was cool dude but like it's just there's so much shit going on right now that is intentionally malicious that it's just really fucking people up yeah right you know and it's it's it's unfortunate i i have a friend who's a black guy he's an inner city pastor we're dear friends he and i disagree with on each other on this because his he actually comes from it from the opposite he's like race racial harmony and and beating racism is so important that you shouldn't even care what the associations of the phrase Black Lives Matter mean.

And I say, Aaron, listen, dude, do you do you have like let's say let's go back 10 years ago. If somebody said to you, let's make America great again, would you have a problem using that phrase? And he's like, no, I wouldn't have a problem. I said, but you would now. Right. Because I know you, he doesn't like Trump at all. So for him to use the phrase, and he was like, oh, okay, I kind of, I see your point, you know, for him to say, okay, yes, I get it. Phrases mean something. They have associations. So yeah, I just think it's really dangerous to put anybody in a position to where they have to use a certain phrase or a certain word in order to prove themselves supportive of a good cause. This is not a racial equality group. It's just not. It's just not. You can say it is all you want.

You could believe it is all you want, but it's not. It's a bunch of people who have hijacked the ideology that black lives matter and inserted their own cause and their own motivation and their own destructive nature towards America. And people that recognize that cannot support it. No, that's just it. I don't support. No, we're fucking Americans first, bro. I'm going to tell you right now, when China comes over here and tries to bomb us, are they going to fucking selectively bomb the black people or the white people? Or, you know, like, dude, because america is a is a country that is

built around many different races we have a unique dynamic in our culture where there's subcultures right so the thing is is that we have to fucking understand that there are unique challenges in america by having different cultures but that's what what makes America great. Agreed. And so now we're getting told that we need to separate all these things. And dude, we're moving backwards at an alarming rate that we all have to recognize and say, look, man, because here's the part that no one's talking about. And I haven't seen anybody talk about this, but I'm going to tell you right now, dude, if I'm China right now, or I'm fucking Russia or I'm Iran, thatan that doesn't i'm these people that don't like america i am fucking so happy right now because i'm like dude this is gonna make them this is gonna ruin their country

like dude the chinese people are not divided like everybody thinks over there that there's like you know two parties just like like this no there's not there's one fucking party there they're all united they have tremendous pride in their country and it's the same with all those groups and so we're the only country because of a two-party system in the media that that basically purposefully intentionally divides that is very weak because of the division in this country and i'm going to tell you guys it doesn't matter what you think or say when another country comes here and they want to fuck us up they're not going to you think because i know people are thinking this like these far left extremists are thinking well you know if they come here they're going to help us no they're not they're going to fucking kill you too because that's it they don't see the difference they see

americans right and we're going to kill americans and our downfall in this country will be that we don't even see each other as americans that'll be the downfall here yeah you know i think one other thing too that i like i want to bring up talking about like you know the weight of being a racist right so i mean it's part of it i think the other part too though if you look throughout history man all the the genuine real races there were really never like any consequences with it right so you think of like the jim crow era all those democrats that made all those fucked up laws for black people they didn't get they didn't go to jail they didn't get fucking publicly executed no so i think that's also a part of it too when you don't when there is no consequences for it well i mean right other

than just calling you that you know what i'm saying it's like it's a slanderous term exactly right you know but you got a pedophile well what? The pedophile is going to jail. Yeah. Cause we know that socially unaccepted. Yeah. And so if we took that same mindset with racism, well, you're a racist.

That's when that's not acceptable. You're going to jail. Yeah. Yeah. You have to give it some consequences too. I think a big problem too, bro, is that a lot of,

and this is, this is definitely not going to be a popular statement. And I know a lot of people are going to argue. I don't really give a fuck. This is truth. A lot of right now, um, white people are the only people that can say racist shit. That's the fucking that's the narrative in society. So like if you're Asian or you're black and you say something that's anti-white, it's not racist.

No, because people will argue and say, well, that's because the whiteness and the privilege and that's built in. And that's the oppressive race and this and that and this look man it comes down to doing the right fucking thing yeah and it come you guys have to understand that those things where you label people one way and it's only one okay that's what's creating this fucking void right and and dude it's not talked about because everybody's scared to say it yeah but the truth is, is like, dude, we can't ever get united or ever get progress until these bigotry terms and labels are just eliminated from everybody's culture. You know, you can't.

Do you understand what I'm saying? Oh, absolutely. Like, it's not right. And, dude, do you think that, like, let's's say for example, you know, like I'm a dude who I feel, I feel pretty proud of what I've done for, to bring, uh, diversity to our company, to, to, to, to do my part and for, you know, bringing the quality to the forefront. I feel very comfortable with who I am and what I believe and know that it's right. But then like when I make a decision, like we talked about a minute ago and I get all that kind of heat, then, you know, and I'm not saying this is me, but there's people

like this. Like for me, you know, I'm like, fuck it, dude. They just don't understand. I'm gonna keep doing my thing. But what about the people who have good intentions that you attack and then they just say, fuck it, I'm not going to do anything anymore. And they just stop. Or you get told that you're only doing the good shit because it's your white guilt.

Dude, I was told the other day, you saw it, that I have a fucking white savior complex. Okay, so I'm a racist. Then I explain what I've done. And it's like, well, now you have white... So what the fuck is it? You get what I'm saying? Dude, we can't have this in the world.

It cannot be this or that or this or that. And I don't know, man. Like, it's disturbing because I feel like it's getting worse, not better. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's a couple ways. You can't live by a double standard and expect it to go except. Right. Secondarily, you certainly can't live in a world where there's no consequences

to your actions and i think when you look at social media in general it's no different than the furry community you know we talk go back hiding right not only hiding they're they get to go online and play this whatever whatever role you want to play you can go be yeah and there's no consequences to the action because it's a keyboard right like you put your little furry mask on and you run into the ballroom and you dance around and act like whatever you want to play you can go be yeah and there's no consequences to the action because it's a keyboard right like you put your little furry mask on and you run into the ballroom and you dance around and act like whatever you want to do or whoever you want to be and no one knows no one knows right and there's no consequence to the action you know in in the sense right and so you know we're in a and this is where you know i've tried to really make a conscious effort to understand that the internet's the internet and the real world is still the real world. And human, human interaction to me still

trumps any interaction I'm going to have on the internet. And it's a very difficult place to live because obviously our business is through the fucking internet. You know what I mean? A big portion of our lives is through social media. Right. But you know what I know? When I go to Pad Thai, I love those people they're fucking from thailand they're good people they make fucking unbelievable you know pad broccoli double chicken level four indeed they do and i don't give a fuck what what they look like yeah you know and i i when i go to um i had to go pick up my food the other day and the lady who delivered uh the walked food out for her curbside Guess what? She was black. She was a great person.

Yeah. And I had a nice little conversation with her. I said, please and thank you. It's an amazing concept. Guess what? She was nice to me. Yeah. And you know what I realized is whatever you sometimes what you see on that fucking phone

isn't fucking reality. Yeah. And so I have to really digest like, all right, well, what is it really like? Because, you know, I'm a believer in being being the change that you want to see in the world. Me too too and guess what when i'm out in the world it sure as fucking what like i see on that fucking phone that's the truth that's how i see no i agree and so like the the standard that we set for ourselves we're all trapped into this little fucking device or this little screen and the truth of the matter is like uh get your fucking head out and go look around you know

what i mean and guess what if you see a problem, try to fix it. Help. Be a part of the solution. Yeah, I agree. And this is kind of like our initiative in Haiti or what we do with the police department or what we're doing now with the child trafficking and some other organizations that were the fitness in the inner city.

Guess what? We see a problem. We get involved. Yeah. Right. And you know what? You can't always get involved with your fucking hands. Sometimes you fucking write checks, you know, and you figure out what you're great at. The world needs both. Yeah, it needs both. It needs people who can fucking do both. And like, the thing is, is like, and this is the, this is the root of the issue to me, you know, like

there's a whole lot of fucking talkers and fucking bitchers and fucking complainers and not enough fucking doers, you know? And, and so, and I realized that like what I realized and I believe this, I believe, and I said this, I don't know, a couple episodes ago, like Lou Bryan has a song. I believe most people are good. It's a good, it's a great fucking song. And then when you really start listening to the words, i believe that i think most people i think we we tend to fucking bend our ear or give our ear to the fucking loud crying cry bitchy one percent and especially when it comes to social because you're attracted to the furthest grossest nastiest fucking comment because it's what fucking catches your eyeball the truth of the matter is is like there's 90 of the fucking people over here

that fucking don't they don't think like that no and they're all thinking the same thing they're like dude fuck that guy but that's the therein lies the problem when when you have the cancel culture is because the fuck fuck i don't want to say nothing you know i'm saying like yeah i think it's important dude i i honestly bro like i think it's important people start sticking up for each other online they're in yeah that's kind of where i was getting at it's like you know like it's not that i don't want to say something i'm you you touch on this like i'm secure enough with who i am and the actions that i make that i'm the consequences of the consequences like i understand that and i'm willing to like i'm gonna fuck up you know it's gonna fucking happen you know what i'm saying so i gotta take that with

a grain of salt and understand like okay like what so i gotta offer that fucking same grace to somebody else when they fuck up because guess what what? Vaughn, you're gonna fuck up. Well, you said it. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Like people just aren't having it.

And, and, and I think that's very dangerous because there's going to become a time where you're going to need some grace. Yeah. Everybody, you know, and that the forgiveness and humility and all those things like,

you know, as I've matured as an adult, because like when you're younger, you know, it, the easy thing is, oh, fuck you.

You know what i mean oh fuck off fuck you you know it's not it's not real though yeah well vaughn vaughn and i had we had an interaction we did we had a great interaction vaughn bitched out one time you guys docked no you know i did joke on me but i'd like to think that you appreciated that i was direct about i respect you more now because of that interaction than I ever would have before. Ever. Ever in 100 million years. And just to kind of paint this picture for everybody listening,

Vaughn was going to run a half marathon with us. We said we're going to run a half marathon of 30 days. We went to run it. I decided I didn't want to die. Yeah. Vaughn bitched out. Much like DJ would. Don't bring it.

Don't bring it over here. But very similarly, DJ would be sick that day. You just fucking said you're not doing it. But I came in one day literally to bust fucking Vaughn's balls, do what I do best, and Vaughn was not having it. I mean, I said, hey, man, I really appreciate you showing up for the fucking half. You know, my true smart-ass fucking fashion. Really appreciate you showing up to fucking run the half marathon with us today yeah and he's i forget what you

said i don't think i was what i think is really funny is i think that's probably the first time in on the premises of first form that anybody saw me like that oh yeah so i think people were looking in going what is going on oh von don't worry we all laughed at you yeah well you were pissed the fucking this steam was rolling. And I was like, I remember thinking in my head, like, Vaughn's really fucking pissed here. Well, some people do pissed real good. And some people, it just ain't their thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And anyway, Vaughn basically told me to fuck off. And I said, okay, all right. I remember that. And I didn't say hi to Vaughn for the next, I don't know, four months. Oh, it wasn't that long. Come on. It was a long time. Well, you're implying that we held a't know, four months. Oh, it wasn't that long. Come on. It was a long time. Well, you're implying that we held a grudge for four months.

Oh, we didn't. I just learned. Listen, me? Okay. I have a good way of, you fuck me over, I will build a wall and just exile you from home. It's just, dude, I am mentally wired that way. Like, okay.

Yeah. If that crosses me. Out of necessity. Yeah. It's out of necessity. Otherwise, you go crazy. Watch your hands, yeah. But there's a part of it, too, where I will talk to everybody in the room except Vaughn.

You know what I'm saying? He's like, I have a good way of delivering the fuck you salad, too. And I remember Vaughn walked into my office one day like a grown-ass man. This is the part that the society needs now more than ever is humility to be able to walk in and say these fucking words i'm sorry i was wrong blah blah blah blah hey we move forward we're not and you know i had wanted to do that for like weeks that's hard it's fucking hard here's why it's hard i'm i can get most people don't know this but i can get really emotional and so like it was it wasn't so much like it it it cut me wasn't so much like it,

it, it cut me to the core that I, that I did that. And I hated that about myself, but I'm like, crap, I got to say something, but I knew I was going to, I thought I was going to get it. How'd you feel after you owned it? Oh, I felt great. Okay. But my, my concern, like the little lie, the bitch voice in me was the bitch voice was saying, you know, you're going to get emotional and Sal's going to think you're a pussy. Yeah. You're going to get emotional. When in reality, I think getting emotional shows that I care. Yeah. You know? So, no, it was good.

Those are lessons in life that most, specifically now, because people can bitch and kick and scream and fucking play it on social media that they don't have the ball sack to walk into the proverbial room because they can do it through that little fucking phone. They don't have to man the fuck up and walk in that fucking room and say, hey, man, I fucked up. Well, Sal, if they did have to do that, they would have never said it in the first place.

That's kind of the problem. There's the furry issue, right? The furry issue is like it's a desensitization because there are no real consequences to what you put on that phone. Well, because people don't hold themselves accountable to their own words and thoughts and actions and like dude you know it's confusing too because not to me but to them as to why they don't ever get ahead and dude i'm i you know i don't have proof of this other than what i've observed in my own life but fuck dude i've had people try to kill

me and i'm like i hope that person has learned their lesson and built a good life for himself well see what I'm saying? To your point. Yeah, but hold on. Oh, sorry. So a lot of these people, their lives are miserable. Their lives are frustrating. Their lives are depressive.

And they can't figure out why all the bad things happen to them. But the truth is, the reason the bad things keep happening to you is because you keep acting like that to other people. Right. I have the example of this this is like this couldn't have played out better like timing wise yesterday okay so enzo my son got stung by a wasp two fucking days in a row okay but i and mom in a household where we learned and we were gonna fucking adjust and adapt and two different houses so at my house he's over he's stirring up the the rocks and the fucking um

a wasp came out and stung him right just stung him randomly crying like fucking crazy you know it sure hurts fuck yeah and it sucks to see your kids because like you want to fix it but everybody knows like it hurts you yeah he's fixing that motherfucker it stings well next and i couldn't explain to him like hey man why'd that why did that happen? Because it just stung him. You know what I mean? It's like, well, you're in the rocks and you're digging and, you know, like fucking whatever. He goes to dad's house. My dad has these like little dog statues in the yard and he's running around.

He kicks him over. And my dad's like, stop kicking them fucking things over. And, you know, it's like one of my things that aggravates my dad. Well, in the last two weeks since Enzo hasn't been there, one of the wasps built a nest underneath one of them because he kicked it over so enzo walks by kicks the fucking thing over kicks it over wops stings him twice wow and and he's you know crying freaking out comes home and he's dad why do you think yes well there's a learning lesson there's a consequence you kicked over his house papa told you not kick that not to kick it, but those are his house and those little wasps,

they're going to defend their house. So you should listen to Papa. Don't fucking kick and cause damage to other people's stuff and you won't get stung. Pain teaches. I will tell you this. Since it's your son, he's going to kick that dog seven or eight more times.

Oh, yeah. But since it's my son, he's going to kick it over the hill. Two things, going back to what you were saying, Andy, two things. One is to your point, you said, how did I feel after I, after I went in and met my dad wrong? I felt awesome. Yeah. I felt bulletproof. Our relationship is much better. And, and so I think people don't understand that when you do humble yourself, the hurt is temporary.

The grace starts flowing in, and you realize that, man, I feel better. We were just talking about this, DJ and I, about how, because, dude, I get my DMs, and I know a lot of you guys who are, you know, I'm a central guy, believe it or not. You know, a lot of people are saying, you know, they say, well, you know, you've said, you know,

you support Trump right now. Well, that doesn't mean that i'm fucking far right yeah that just means that i'm understanding the situation and i'm i'm saying really i'm picking what is better for the constitution of the united states in my you know what i mean but people don't want to hear that shit and dude you know i have so many dude my DMs have, and I was telling DJ that I was actually showing him this are filled with Democrats who are central thinking. Like I would consider myself slightly right of center. Um, and I would, you know, some of these people are slightly left of center and then even traditional Democrats, Sal, we were talking about one of them just yesterday,

one of our cousins. Okay. And who's a great fucking guy. He just happens to think a little bit more left than what you and I think. He's equally left of center. Yeah, I would say that. Yes. Common sense, dude.

A little bit more that way. Very successful business. And for whatever you think, whatever you think, unless you're all the way to the right and the kkk and all the way to the left in this antifa shit fuck you if you're in those groups but no for real no i agree yeah because you're the fucking reasons that we're having these problems right now both those groups and so if we could fucking get to the to the understanding that well here my, my story is I have all these DMS from people who a lot of black Americans, a lot of left of center Americans, and a lot of traditional Democrats have been DM and me like these almost messages of shame.

They're like, dude, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I have to vote for Trump and like this shit has gotten insane. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I have to vote for Trump, man. Like, this shit has gotten insane. I can't support this, and I can't tell my friends. I can't do this. And I'm thinking, like, dude, you're not getting it. Like, this is right and wrong at this point.

In my opinion, that's how I'm seeing it. Oh, yeah. So, especially if this pedophilia shit comes to the surface and it ends up being true, what they're saying, fuck. But my point is, is that, dude, when you change your mind, I just did a whole podcast on this. Like, you know, when you let go and admit and say, God, dude, I was I was fucking wrong

or I was misled. Dude, the shame doesn't come on you. The shame leaves you and the grace does come in. And a lot of people have been painting. And I want to say this because it's, it's the truth. A lot of people have been painting the right as everybody who's on the right is some sort of white supremacist fucking crazy fuck who, you know, secretly believes that they hate black people and all this shit. It's not true, dude. If you go to a Trump rally and you watch how black Americans are treated, they're treated with love. They're embraced. You know what I'm saying? And it doesn't matter if

it's just black Americans, it's anybody there, but we don't see that on the other side right now. We see just hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. And, and guys, you know, I guess my, my point in all of this is there's a lot of people out there struggling right now with a moral decision to make, like a decision that they might have to vote against what they would traditionally believe to save the constitution. And I actually agree with that assessment. That's, you know, a lot of people can get mad if I say that, but, and dude, I could be wrong. Maybe I'm fucking wrong. You know, I'm not saying I fucking know. I'm saying here's what I see. And I also feel pretty confident in my ability to see the whole playing field. Okay. That's all I've ever been trying to

say. Like, I feel pretty good about how I see the whole game. And I'm, I'm pretty skilled at that in my life. I see a lot of people struggling with that moral dilemma. They're like, dude, fuck. Because I think a lot of people are starting to feel like if they vote on the left, it's like, it's like saying pedophilia is okay. Almost. You know what I mean? With a lot of the shit that's starting to trickle out yeah um and i want those people who are struggling to understand that like you're gonna feel better if you if you do what you know is right you know what i mean and and doing the right thing is really hard sometimes it's hard to walk into somebody's office and say hey man i fucked up sorry you know that that's hard and by the way's office and say, hey, man, I fucked up. Sorry.

You know, that's hard. And by the way, you don't have to do that in the public either. You don't have to like. Right. That's the beauty of fucking the American system. You don't have to be, you know, loud. When I was growing up, you know, it was we were taught that you don't talk about politics. Your political beliefs are your own. Right. You don't talk about politics. Your political beliefs are your own. Right.

You don't talk about religion. Your religious beliefs are your own. You know, those things were not socially acceptable to talk about. And, and you can see why right now, you know, but I don't know, man, I feel like a lot of people are very conflicted because they're afraid to disappoint their, the community that they've become a part of by thinking for themselves. Um, and by the way, this can go the other way too. Like, let's just say, let's just say you're a Trump guy in all fairness. By the way, someone asked me the other day if Trump is linked to Epstein as well, if he

comes out as a child toucher, are you still going to support him? Fuck no. That's such a dumb question. It just assumes that you're this minus guy who just agrees with everything. Dude, I didn't even address it. I didn't answer it because I wanted to answer it here. Like, yeah, if I fucking find out this motherfucker's been doing shit to kids, guess what?

Fuck him, too. See, bitch. Everybody thinks that. Every fucking Trump guy or girl that I know that if that were to come out would feel the same way. There'd be a third nomination for president, and that would be that. Okay? So, but the point is, what was I saying before before that you guys all forgot because i was just going on yeah well you're you i think i was talking about um you know making a decision like let's

just say for fair for fair conversation okay that we're making a decision about i'm a i'm a traditional trump guy because there's these people too. There is these people, because I've heard from them too, who have voted for Trump in 2016 that don't want to vote for him now. And if that's you and you feel like that's the right thing to do and you're conflicted because you've always voted on the right, bro, you're going to feel better when you just come to terms with the fact that you've got to make the best decision at the time. This idea that we have to vote along party lines or we're this or that, and our identity is linked to these parties is what's dividing America

anyway. We should be looking at it like this. Instead of looking at it like Democrat or Republican, we should be looking at it, I believe, right versus wrong and trying to find the correct answer to the situation. Now we could argue all day long about what that is, but I think if we all step back and just separate ourselves from our traditional beliefs of the party identity that they make us commit to and say, okay, what the fuck is right and what's wrong, dude, we would have a lot better communication in this country. You know, take away the name calling, take away this, take away that. And I mean, dude, look, it's gotten so bad.

I got fucking told the other day that my fucking beard was toxic masculinity. I swear to God, dude. Like I got told that my beard was toxic, toxic masculinity. I swear to God, dude. Like, I got told that my beard was toxic masculinity. We need to take that phrase and make it into, like, a positive. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, it doesn't even make any fucking sense at all. Like, that's not even what toxic masculinity fucking, in theory, is. Okay? But we are so quick to just attack attack attack attack attack attack attack

that it divides people like even okay look and for fair conversation the right you know people are very enthusiastic about trump they absolutely are those people calling every motherfucker that has any sort of liberal view a fucking you know fascist or a this or that dude that's equally as bad yeah that is equally as bad it's a great point no i dude i i i wanted to talk you know i i think i've been nervous and scared for america so much that i've gotten a little bit you know away from what i would normally how to explain things i've just gotten passionate about it and the message has come across a little bit the wrong way the way way this isn't about party lines. This is about preserving the constitution of America so that our kids and their kids can have the freedom

and the ability to improve their lives. And if we go to that communist regime, that's, that's not something that's part of that regime.