REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 62. #MindBlownEmoji - Part 2

Episode Date: August 10, 2020

Everybody outside of the United States looks at Americans the same, so why can't we look at ourselves as the same? Continuing the conversation from part 1, Andy and the crew dive deep into how the rest of the world views Americans, how the Coronavirus pandemic has positively affected our educational system, and how the mainstream media can manipulate the story to their benefit.

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Got more cars than diddy. I only weigh 180, but my watch cost 250. A lot of these people out there that are out in the streets screaming and burning shit, they don't even understand that, you know, under the regime that they're calling for, and this is the ironic thing that they don't understand. Under the regime that you're calling for, if you resort to the type of action that you're taking now, they will kill you. You will fucking be killed. We had a couple of weeks ago, a situation where a car was driving in Colorado and they shot at the car because they were driving through a protest and then a couple of the protesters on the other side were were hurt or even I don't know if they

died yeah I don't know if they died or not but the point is there was gunfire from the group towards a civilian in in the crowd and I don't know all the details okay but I know this in any other country any other country in the fucking world, all of them. If you have a group of people and they start shooting at people, what happens to them? They kill them all. They fucking wiping the fuck out.

And the, and, and the, the people doing this crazy shit are, are ignorant to the fact that that's how that happens everywhere else in the world. And like, so like they're using America's freedom to destroy America.

Yeah. Like it's, it's unbelievable. Like they are using the freedom of America to destroy what allows them to even fucking do that. The, the, the irony of that whole entire situation.

And it's just makes my, you know, that a little emoji where the fucking clouds coming out of his head. Like, that's what I feel like when I'm watching this shit. No seriously go ahead well i think that you know i just think about all the time and like i have to i remind myself daily that these are people that it's not that it's not that they approve of biden it's just they hate trump so much right and it's like why well they're gonna find out why soon and then that's the thing like dude like all of my close friends close family right like i ask him like you know who

are who are very very you know anti-trump it's like well why yeah but you you you understood what i just said right oh absolutely like they're what's going to come out what's coming out in the news over the next month or two is going to show you exactly why everybody has been programmed to hate this man. Yeah. And a lot of you guys who truly hate him, you're going to see and you're going to have to make a decision and say, fuck, they fucking lied to me. And you know what?

When you make that decision, you'll be celebrated for it. That's the truth. You're not going to be condemned for it like you think, because it's everybody we've all been lied to. We've all been misled. We've all been told a story that isn't true and this is not some fucking conspiracy theory shit this is actually happening and you know time's gonna let it unfold and we're gonna see it so that's what it is i mean i'd like to switch gears though honestly because we talked a lot about this topic over the last few months. And, um, I would like to talk about some of the good things that are going to come of this

situation because dude, we are so bombarded with all this negativity, dude, I'm fucking tired of it. Every, all of you guys are tired. As much as we talk about it, we're exhausted from talking about it. And, and, and there are some, some silver linings that I think we should note, you know what I'm saying? Uh'm saying, of this entire situation. And I'm going to tell you the start of it is this. I can tell you that when freedom is restored and these crazy lockdowns and this crazy media campaign and this crazy shit that is being implemented on us, the restrictions and all that, when they're lifted and we get freedom back, which we will get it back one way or the other, we will get freedom back.

I'm going to appreciate it a lot more. Tell you that. That's a fucking huge thing. I think every single person in the world is going to appreciate going to the grocery store and not getting harassed by some fucking asshole for wearing a piece of paper that doesn't even scientifically fucking do anything. And that's a fact. There are science. There's plenty of science that shows that. So I'm just saying the freedom, I think it's going to bring a new breath of fresh air to all of us in terms of enjoying what this country is about. I think that's a great, I think that's something that everybody needed because going into this situation, the freedom of this country has been taken for granted

for a number of decades. You know what I'm saying? Like there's no way to appreciate something until somebody takes it away for a minute. And so, you know, and this is why like, you know, guys who have done time in prison and been released and we know a lot of them, they fucking appreciate real life. And I think America kind of needs that sort of reset to start appreciating each other and appreciating the culture differences and, you know, celebrating the diversity instead of like attacking each other for it.

And like, dude, I just think when all this shakes out, I think there's going to be a lot of, a lot more friendly of a society all in all. That's, that's how I see it. I totally agree with you. And I think there's two, there's two things, two events that I'm really looking forward to attending because I think that the, the, the spirit at those events is going to be just absolutely electric. One is that, I mean, I'm talking about when all of the COVID restrictions,

all of this stuff blows over, I'm excited about going to a college football game. Yeah, me too. But I'm also excited about the first time that First Form has their Summer Smash. Me too. Because I think that the energy and electricity at that gathering,

I think people will be so appreciative of being in the presence of another human being and being able to connect on a deep level and not have to worry about all the goofiness that we've been, you know, that we've had to deal with. I think it's, I think you're right. I think we're good. We have a greater appreciation for other, just literally the presence of other human beings. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. You know, I believe that's what's going to happen. I'm looking forward to that because I really do truly think humanity, at least in this part of the world needed it. Yeah. Well, I, you start to take,

you start to really take into, into, um, consideration the things that were once maybe just afterthoughts are very much priority like school yeah like kids going to school and you know you think about how important at least in at the age in which my kids are and i think this goes all the way up the the totem pole is even for kids who are sophomores juniors seniors in high school like the ability for these kids to go out and socialize and for the ability for even just my kids to go to school so that you you know, I can have some sanity and not have to organize, you know, the move in 400 different times throughout the week. And then in addition, like how pissed off would you be if you were a senior in high school or senior in college and you didn't get to finish your senior season because

of COVID, you know, like, I mean, there's, there's a lot of things that, you know, are very minuscule in my daily life now that don't matter but how many lives were impacted to that level and it just like hit the play button like resume resume play it would be nice yeah because it's like man i i'd pay a lot of fucking money go down and smell smell some popcorn and drink a beer at bush stadium right now yeah but you know i think that time is coming sooner than later yeah i think we're reaching a tipping point soon where people aren't gonna they're just not gonna comply i i just i see it more and more every day i see it in all age groups all race groups all all all you know beliefs um people are just like you know what fuck it and it's not just here though like oh it's everywhere but we're not allowed to see that

though yeah the shit going on in germany. They've been protesting for three weeks now. Yeah. Against all of it. You don't see it. In Manhattan, the great city of Manhattan. What's the total population? 12,000? 40,000.

40,000. When school's out. When school's out. Well, when school's in, it's more like 50. Maybe even more than that. But it's 38, 40,000. What are the guidelines like? Because Kansas, believe it or not, is a pretty liberal state yeah well kansas is a weird thing because kansas has a history of sometimes

we'll have liberal governors but we always have a very conservative legislature so i would say that people's attitude is fine you know do you have to wear a mask when you go into your coffee shop it's it's posted everywhere that you have to, but I've walked in several times. He lives a little bit. No, I don't have any fear that I'm going to get kicked out. Nobody I know in my city has ever been kicked out.

An exception to that might be a medical facility. My wife has to wear PPE. Yeah, of course. My wife's the same right she works in medical facilities she gotta like garb up and do the whole deal but i actually think that that's fucking that should be the case no i agree but i'm more curious like you know we see you know and and both sides of the media are guilty of this you know like the the fear that's going on and

like man even i walk into my starbucks i've told the story, so it's relevant, but you know, the majority of America, believe it or not, exist outside of, yeah. You know, my little Starbucks. And it's funny to think like, how does, how does Manhattan, Kansas? Yeah, no, I mean, I think most everybody's attitude, and this frankly is my attitude. I don't condemn somebody for wearing a mask. If I don't call them a sheep or anything like that, if they want to wear it whatever yeah i mean if that's part of the problem too yeah so that's a whole that's a whole fucking so you know all these people who are anti-mask are calling everybody fucking sheep and stupid and this and that and you guys want them to join you right what the fuck no they're not sheep they're fucking scared dude i had a buddy who sent me a video today of a guy literally in a fucking hazmat

suit at the fucking airport okay like i'm talking real a fucking real hazmat suit crazy all right and he sent it to me he's like holy fuck dude look at this and i said dude imagine what that guy imagine how fucking terrified that guy is right to even leave the house right now dude so i said dude i said as as as funny as we might think that is it ain't funny no and and dude we the the people who are you know there needs to be like i said in the beginning of the show empathy like hey dude if you're fucking scared i totally get it like i totally get it you you know but we can't have this oh those are fucking sheep and then this and then oh you're you're you fucking want it you want your grandma to die get the fuck out of here you don't care about neither one of those is true and neither one

is okay how are you gonna blame someone with the amount of credible propaganda that's being spewed. We have people completely violating their medical oaths to do the right thing on fucking TV. Every day we have tech organizations removing videos of people of, they have an opinion that goes against anything that the mainstream media says. How can you blame them for being so scared are we not taught to watch the news to figure out what to do are we not taught to trust people are we not taught that you know a doctor who's in the white house should be credible and everything that he said that's what we're taught we're taught that so how can you blame someone for believing it that's what we're taught we're taught that so how can you blame someone for believing it that's what they're supposed to fucking believe yeah and dude they're neat if you guys really

want people to understand and listen you can't be calling them sheep and fuck you and fuck your mask and this and that yeah now me being a person who will not wear a fucking mask i won't do it no but it has nothing to do with safety it has to do with me doing the research, understanding that the research is there that shows that this is not an actual scientific method. And if you go to Sean models, page, Sean Stevenson's page, he did a great video on it. I've posted many times on my Instagram back by science. The whole thing will explain the whole thing will explain the whole ordeal to you okay now i i understand you know the concern but i also understand the importance of not having tyrannical mandates on on our country you know what i mean so like i have to understand and you have to understand what i'm understanding

we have to understand each other you know and that takes a little bit of like understanding yeah you know dude i'm so pastor right now so my lofts that i live in downtown right i took the dogs out to go to the bathroom the other morning right i walk outside the door and i see this okay on the side you see that okay that's at the back door okay it looks like fucking shit right trash yeah yeah yeah well so i'm like fuck man this is disgusting right so we're going to go back and show the picture of like this super overflowing dumpster and so then i go to walk back in i didn't realize because i was walking out the door on the door they just had put up

that morning fucking mandatory mask yeah i'm just like well hold on like you know but dude i'm at the point now like you know i get in my building and i'm always i got all my shit and i get on the elevator and there's somebody in there and they have a mask on and i'm just like you know all right well you be in your corner i'm over here you know like they are scared yeah no dude and that's what people that's what people don't understand people have politicized it so far to where there's no there's no understanding that those people are actually fearful they are do you think those people are wearing masks because they fucking just want to wear a mask right no they're wearing masks because they fucking scared shitless they're gonna die it is you know it's a funny thought though earlier we're talking about like a china invasion or something like you know they're not gonna pick

you know pick sides and like well what if they just started killing all the people without masks i'm like fuck i might wear a mask now yeah but dude the thing is is like you have to understand that too i think that's the point of this whole conversation that we're having is like we are all seen as the same by every other country except us yeah all of us yeah we are the america outside of america is not seen as black americans white americans fucking asian americans all these little sub things that we call each other here outside of America is not seen as black Americans, white Americans, fucking Asian Americans, all these little sub things that we call each other here. They just call you American. Right.

And they say we're all fucked up. Yeah. They fucking hate us equally. If there's anybody that fucking hates everybody, it's everybody else hating us. That's the truth. And so, you know, I'm just frustrated. The rest of the NBA hated the Bulls. Huh? The rest of the NBA hated the Bulls. That's right. Well, hey, you know i i'm just frustrated the nba hated the bulls huh the rest of the nba hated

the bulls that's right well hey you know what trump said that too though you know what though it's amazing to me how much of all of these different cultural issues like you talked about do you want to persuade these people or you just want to beat them up it it's amazing how much of all the stuff we talk about going on in the world really comes down to business principles. Like I remember that. I remember that story you told about like- Chevy and Ford. Yeah. Chevy and Ford. You should tell that story because it's like, if you feel very strongly about something, the way to convince somebody else is not to make them feel like crap.

Right. It's not. It's not to insult them. Oh, dude, look. Okay. I'll tell the story just for sake of telling it. It's a good story too. Yeah. So like, dude, you have to understand. Okay.

In America, people are very brand loyal. All right. We're going to go back to MSCO days for a minute. People are very brand loyal. All right. We're taught that. We're taught that through advertising. We're taught that through marketing.

We're taught that through all kinds of different avenues. You know, they get our favorite people, you know, the rock. Everybody knows the rock drives four trucks. Everybody fucking knows. Okay. We have people that represent Chevy. We have people that do this and that. So in middle America and everywhere, you know, around where we're at, people are very loyal to their trucks. All right. And there's four guys and they're shedding. And I use this example in for a sales technique. All right. But this is, this is very, like Vaughn said, it's very, it's very reflective of how to operate in society if you really want to make a difference. So let's just say you have a guy who's you know for generations and generations and generations His family drove ford trucks. All right, and he continues to have issues with with his particular ford truck So much to the point where he gets pissed off and he's like dude Fuck these ford trucks. I'm gonna go see what chevy's about even though I love ford And they've been good. This one is a piece of shit.

And I'm going to go see what these Chevys are about. So this guy drives to the Chevy dealer and he gets out of his truck. And mind you, he's the only Ford truck there on the Chevy lot. And this man gets out of his Ford truck. The salesman walks up to him and says, hey, man, I see you drive a Chevy. You're coming over to the winning team now. that guy is automatically going to put up a wall because what you just did is you called him stupid and people don't realize this because what you did was you insulted that man's decision and you you probably already made up in his mind he's made it up for his whole life yeah okay so

his whole life he's planted his identity into that ford truck yeah and he's made it up for his whole life yeah okay so his whole life he's planted his identity into that ford truck yeah and he's made it up his whole life that he is a ford guy and you just called him a fucking idiot for being a ford guy right all right this is this is why this is the difference between great salespeople and fucking terrible salespeople they will do this in one way or another they don't realize they're doing it and and and so that guy gets back in his chevy truck or his ford truck and he drives off the lot and guess what he does he never ever ever thinks about a chevy ever again he gets entrenched in his position that's right yep it fucking makes him dig his heel he's like fuck that guy that's why i don't drive fucking chevys because i went there and that guy's a fucking cocky asshole right all right when it when, if the salesman had walked up to him and he said, oh man, that's, that's a beautiful Ford truck. That's a good truck, man. You know what? I like

Ford. Ford does a great job. Uh, I used to drive Ford myself. What, what brings you to a Chevy dealer? And he's going to say, well, I've had some problems with my truck. He's like, all right, look, I get it. Let's just show you what I got over here. All right? Now you have a different dynamic. Now you have the guy, and if he's a good salesman, he's going to say something like this. Bro, I drove Fords for years too.

I had those same issues. That's what he's going to say. He's going to say most of them were good, but I had a few bad. He's going to fucking get He's going to say most of them were good, but I had a few. He's going to he's going to fucking get on his side. OK, and that's how the sales talk track is going to go as a salesman for a successful salesperson. They are going to they're going to connect with the person through shared experience and they're going to move over together to look at other options. And this we could see right now clearly that most americans are pretty fucking shitty sales people okay and because dude there you could this is this is just like the conversation we have

with mike trotter it is not you're wrong it's hey i could see why you think that yeah i get it yeah i thought just like that dude and you know what i did it first too yeah when all this shit started happening up this is the truth when all this shit this shit happened in Ferguson and the facts were not matter, nobody knew that the BLM money was funneled into the far left and all this shit. Dude, everybody was like black lives matter, but then it started trickling out and people started seeing through the thing. And, and so dude, that's where, that's where like, you know, when you call someone a sheep or stupid or this or that, or you call them a name for their belief, you know, like, dude, I was called a, a white colonizer. My motherfucking family didn't come from fucking to this country until the

1900s motherfucker. Like we were already colonized. And on top of it, we came from three different fucking unique backgrounds. Let me tell you what they are. Mafia? No. Listen. Sicilian. Okay.

American Indian. And Irish. Okay. Three of the most persecuted fucking people in the history of the world. And I'm getting yelled at by a woman online calling me a white colonizer because of the fucking shade of my skin. It's like, dude, what the fuck are you talking about?

But you can't even have that conversation. And what color was she? I don't know. By the way, that's a whole other conversation for another day. But there was a time in our nation's history where it was very common in a street. No Irish, no Italian. No Irish, no Italian.

Irish need not apply. That's right. Yeah. But nobody talks about Italian. No Irish, no Italian. Irish need not apply. That's right. Yeah. But nobody talks about it. And look, I'm not going to sit here because, dude, this is not a competition of who was more oppressed. Right. Who had it worse.

That's not what this is about. But the point is, is that when you label people without knowing the situation and you're coming and attacking, all you are is that shitty salesman on the fucking Chevy lot telling people that you're a fucking idiot for thinking what you think and dude that doesn't solve any motherfucking problems you know did you know that the ford chevy story is just really the story on how sal sold andrew how to drive fords is that right it's not actually a i mean now that it's made two

podcasts it's the world-renowned sales tactic on just how we got andrew into a ford well no what it's sort of it's actually very true dude i drove chevys my whole life yeah and i had a ford and a dodge there's a dodge yeah and i love that dodge and i love all the brands honestly and now that i love all the brands guess what i feel better about it that's right all right it makes me happy they all got their positives right and so dude you should never falsely bring hate into your life when you don't need it. You know, brand loyalty does that a lot. Like, you know, I'm a fucking this guy, whatever it is. No, you're not.

You're a fucking guy that drives that. You're not that guy. So, you know, once you wake to that, you're like, damn, dude, I'm bringing in all this fucking frustration for no reason. So, but this is sort of the truth. Like, that is why I decided to switch to Ford. I did have a bad experience with two Ford trucks back in 2008. They were total punks of shit, both of them. Now, then I drove Chevys, and I don't know how many Chevy trucks I've driven since then, but a lot.

And then, you know Sal started driving Ford I made fun of him like dude who fucking did that Ford's a piece of shit and I got mad I was like dude like I hated he was so much so because our one of our really good friends sells the Chevys yeah I love this guy is one of my best friends

I can't believe you betrayed him yeah is that the dealership in Illinois did you all go to no no they're right down here that's what I told Sal like dude you fucking betrayed Tim. Is that the dealership in Illinois that you all go to? No, no, they're right down here. No, that's what I told Sal. I'm like, dude, you fucking betrayed Tim? What the fuck? I went all in, bro. But I'm like, yeah, but I got a new friend over here.

His name's Tommy. Yeah, but the point is that eventually, like, on his newest truck, he didn't try to sell me on how good it was. You know what he did? He's like, hey, dude, here's the keys. You should drive it. You got to drive it. He's like, dude, look, and in all fairness this is the truth sal is a very good

under sales very good salesperson and and ethical too it's he you know he said hey dude here's the key just drive the truck dude just i know your truck is nice as shit because my chevy is nice john taylor drives it now fucking nice truck I drove the truck and I'm like, this is pretty good. Dude, that principle is so, it's just a principle of success and influence in every area of life. About 10 years ago,

I went to a coffee shop and there's this guy and he was just, somehow we got into small talk and he's like, oh, what do you do? And I go, I'm a pastor. And he went cold on me. And he just, all of a sudden, he was just, I, I, somehow we got into small talk and, and he's like, Oh, what do you do? And I go, uh, I'm a pastor. And he's like, went cold on me. And he just, all of a sudden, he's like, Oh, I'm an atheist. And I think he expected me to be like, well, you suck. And I go, Oh, I get it. I can, I can think of a lot of reasons not to believe in God. And he's like, what? And I go, yeah, man, there's a lot of crap going on in the world. That's kind of scary. And it doesn't make sense. I said,

why, why are you an atheist? And he started talking about like, he had, he had this Jewish heritage and all these people died, you know, in world war II with the Holocaust. And he's like, couldn't imagine that if there was a God, why God would allow something like that to happen. So I remember I said to him, I said, you know, that was horrible that so many people died like that. And he said, yeah, man, I said, you have a really, really strong sense of justice. He said, yeah, man. I go, I'm just curious. I mean, where do you think you got that sense of justice? And it just, all of a sudden he's like, oh crap. I don't know. And it just opened up a conversation and he walked out. I'm sure he's probably still an atheist, but I mean, at least something to think about.

Yeah. And at least he met somebody who was a Christian who didn't make him feel like a jackass for being an atheist. If more people did that in every area of our lives. Dude, you know, what's funny is like media couldn't media and politicians. They couldn't manipulate us.

Bro. I have friends that are, that are pretty far left. I wouldn't, they're not antifa people okay yeah they're but they're just very liberal are there any antifa people in missouri because i i you know dude i think when they fucking pay the motherfuckers and ship them here yeah well i'm sure they'll be here though there'll be some here next week yeah because of the mike

brown anniversary yeah yeah well dude look the the point is is that we are all going about this the wrong fucking way. And take this from someone who understands how to fucking, you know, teach skills like this. We all need to like be a little bit more like the second salesman and just have some empathy. You're like, dude, look, I know why you're scared. I can understand that because I think if we're honest, we all can. This is fucking absurd. Right.

So I don't know, man. What about like, I was thinking too about positives of this. Can I give some notes to that? Yeah. Because I think I got, there's, you know, my job here at First Form is to sell product, right? At the end of the day, like that's my job. But my real job, what I do is just manage bullshit.

That's what I do. There has never been a time when somebody's walked in my office and said hey how you doing i'll do that no i check on you everybody everybody they only bring me shit you know i check on me but you're trying to steal a diet coke i go to jason now so yeah that's because i stopped putting diet coke in there because you kept drinking all this shit. No, but you got those cold brews. I know. So my point being is like, I'll come check on you later.

No, like, yeah, I, I, I've learned, you know, like,

okay, like you have to, you're in a problem solving business. That's what, that's, that's how the world works. And you know, when you,

so we, we constantly, I constantly have people come through my office and it, and my job now is to try to teach them how to handle bullshit or like, you know, when you, so we, we constantly, I constantly have people come through my office and it, and my job now is to try to teach them how to handle bullshit or like, you know, teach them how to solve problems. And you know, the number one thing that I always tell them, like, I always hear the story because I do one-on-ones. I have one-on-ones Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and it's personal development for each guy and how they manage their little department or girl or girl. And the number one question I always ask them, okay, well, you got to put yourself in their shoes and see how they see it.

And, you know, like whenever you have a problem, you have to understand, like, it's not about driving your agenda through them. It's simply step out, put yourself in their shoes for one second and say, hey, how do they see that situation? You know, like somebody comes and asks for a pay raise, you know, like, hey, why do you think that they need value? Or why do you, why have they brought value to, to the business or understand where they're coming from and help them express that feeling?

Because dude, when you can help somebody through that situation of struggle, because they're struggling to like, get that out. And so they resist you, you know, like the second you, the second you show any type of combativeness, like they're going to, now we're in a, now we're in a stalemate where we're going to try to wrestle to win. And it's like, you got to disarm that. And you got to say, Hey, listen, like, let me put myself in their shoes and try to sympathize with them and understand. And so that they can express themselves clearly. So then you can have your opinion or your opportunity to kind of say your side of the story. Cause what

I've learned is most people just simply don't communicate well. They're waiting to talk. What's that? They're waiting to talk. Yeah. And they don't, and they're, they're afraid to get the situation out and do this happens with relationships. This happens in business. They're afraid to tell them everything that you really think, you know what I mean? And what I've learned is, all right, let's, let me get out of my seat. Let me sit right next to him and almost advise him through that situation. Like, dude, no, no. Tell me like, what is the struggle? Like, I understand you're telling me like the problem, but there's, it's deeper. I know it's deeper. And you learn to let them get it out, let them talk about it. And then, you know what? Hey man, like, okay, cool. It wasn't that hard. Right. All right. Now

let's fix it. And what happens is through that situation and you can relate it to politics right now, like, or black lives matter or whatever. Like, Hey, let me help, help me understand. Like, why do you feel that way? Right. You know, like, why do you hate back to what you were saying earlier? The empathy, of course, no, you do. You got like, instead of trying to win, try to fix the fucking problem. And that's what, like a lot of times specifically in young business leaders, like, no, this is the way this is my way. And it's like, well, wait a minute. Maybe it's not, you know, let's listen and let's, let's try to adjust, adapt and overcome. And, and a lot of people, they want to drive their agenda.

And this is why politics is so dangerous is because like, I'm going to win. Can't you just like hear them out? You know, Chevy's going to win. Well, what happens? Chevy's got great attributes. They make great trucks. You know what I'm saying? So like everybody has a valid point and an opportunity.

You got to learn to listen to it. And when you look at bad relationships at home, it's because they don't communicate well, right? And they can't talk to each other. You look at bad relationships in a business environment, they don't talk to each other well. And so learning like, just like social media right now, we're not talking to each other really well. And if we were going to fix that problem, dude, we got to learn to listen. We got to learn to understand where they're coming from and fucking be willing to meet them in the middle. But you included a really important piece way back several minutes, which was you talked about being comfortable

with who you are. Of course. I don't think you can truly listen to somebody else and say you're comfortable. Yep. Because you're not threatened by people. You know what I'm saying? To some extent, you got to get to the point

where you're like, you know what? I know basically I'm a person of goodwill who's trying to do his best or her best. I can listen to this person, but if you're, if you don't have that inner strength, I'm not sure you can listen. The single best thing that I ever did in my life. I mean, the characteristic trait that I learned was to stop lying because then when I, once I learned to stop lying, then was living the the pureborn truth i can accept my faults it just makes everything fucking easier yeah well and specifically when trying to

uncut like be comfortable with who you are like man i'm me like i don't play a version of me like this is what you get good bad and different i understand that some people don't like me like i get it and i'm okay with that too but like i'm not gonna waver one. I understand that some people don't like me. Like I get it. And I'm okay with that too. But like, I'm not going to waver one way or the other. And because I don't have to play a story, like I'm my story. And I, the younger version of me was always trying to be cool. And I was always trying to, to like, you know, put a little extra icing on the cake for no reason, you know, because then I had to like justify it to myself. And then you kind of always felt like unfulfilled because it wasn't just who you were. And when I learned to just be unequivocally me, no matter what, I'd just speak the truth. And it's not popular. And that's the part that a lot

of people don't understand is when you have to say things that you believe and that you think, you have to be willing to understand that they may not like it. And you're going to have to deal with that. And that's a hard place to be because nobody likes being on life. No, nobody likes being on life and nobody likes confrontation. You know what I'm saying? And so like a lot of people back down from that and they secretly go back in and I have to like play this fucking game with themselves when it,

man, it's like, it's okay that we disagree, you know? And it's okay. But my, my biggest thing that I ever did was, dude,

I don't, I don't lie anymore. You know, I just don't. And I'm telling you right now, like when but my my biggest thing that i ever did was dude i don't i don't lie anymore you know i just don't and i'm telling you right now like when i let myself free of that my life got exponentially better and i don't i mean i don't lie about anything like who i am i mean kind of to the point of your opening of your podcast like or the of the podcast i take great pride in trying to be the exact person who I am online, in person, in business. Like if you were to ask the guys and girls that I manage, like that's what you get. I bet you got that from the MFCO episode on authenticity,

being the competitive edge of a business. Which one was that? We had lots of them on that one. Well, because there's a fucking great deal of truth and success. No, it's true. I mean, you've talked about that, Andy. And, you know, being yourself in both business and life is a competitive edge. I believe so.

What you're affirming. What other good shit is going to come from this? Well, I loved you mentioned about school, taking advantage of the fact that, you know, we take it for granted that we all get to go to school. I actually think, and it sounds that I'm being negative, but universities across the nation are hemorrhaging students. We can argue whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but the fact is they are. And what is really interesting, and I live in a college town, what's really interesting is major D1 institutions, or really institutions on any level, they tend to adapt pretty slowly. And what I do think is happening is that COVID and all the things that are going on has accelerated the demise to some extent of traditional education to where people are starting to say, okay, how can we be more innovative? And what other educational

opportunities are out there? And I actually believe, I'm not against higher education, but I actually believe that more and more people are going to go, you know what? College is not the route for me. I'm not going to get into debt and be in debt my whole life. I'm going to maybe go the, the route of entrepreneurship or something else or trades or something else. And I actually think that's going to be really good for America. Dude, I, I, I 1 million percent agree. And I also think there's a, there's an irony similar to what I was saying about how, you know, the, the regime that's wanted is not going to allow for the behavior. I think it's interesting, you know, and I don't see a lot of these, these teachers really seeing this, but they're,

they're all protesting for schools to be closed, right? And what they don't understand is that there's people out there setting up their own schools now because you can do it online. I've been doing this for a couple of years, Larte Syndicate. We have an entrepreneurship school. That's what the fuck it is. Right. And, you know, it might not be as rigid curriculum as a traditional university, but if you want to learn to be an entrepreneur that's where the fuck you go so people are starting to do this other people who are you know entrepreneurship minded and teachers and the landscape is changing and what they this is the the fucking ironic you know again emoji where my head blows up and and smoke is like these people are demanding that schools be closed.

And they know that that's how they indoctrinate people to believe what they believe. They know this. That's what they fucking do. So when you close the schools and people go elsewhere, guess who? A doesn't get to indoctrinate anybody anymore and b doesn't have a fucking job i'm gonna say it's the same people that told everybody they need to go to school that but that's what i'm saying so like these people are you know they want to win elections so fucking bad that they are they are they're

fucking themselves dude and they don't get it no and i'm just like are you really not seeing what's happening like yeah you know how many people do companies don't hire it no and i'm just like are you really not seeing what's happening like you know how many people do companies don't hire on fucking degrees anymore everybody i don't know if you understand that we're an example of that we're one of the we're we're one of the next generation's great companies okay yeah we've been in it 20 years but in 20 more years we're gonna be the fucking you know standard the big the big, the big Nike company, you know, quote unquote, I'm just using that as an example. That's where we're going. And these people that work here, Sal, I mean, how many motherfuckers do you ask about their degree?

Zero. In fact, on Monday morning's meeting, I was highlighting two guys and I said, you know, there are two of our most talked about people in customer service. No degrees. No, one had a degree. One didn't. And I didn't fucking know. And I don't fucking care. Yeah.

I care that they're willing to help people. But the old guard of having that have to have to get in is only applicable to certain areas of life. And I think what we're going to see is the revision of major universities into smaller sub subject intensive universities. For example, you know, medical school, law school, architect school, where you have to go learn these skills and get certifications to be these things, which you should, there should be a standardized education for these things. But for all the other shit, the degree is basically become something that's dismissed. And a lot of people get really heated when you say that because they put so much time into their education. They feel superior because they have it. I'm sorry, bro. You're not superior. That's just not the way it works. School is a test. School is a test to see how well you follow

directions. How well you follow directions has very little to do with how successful or how intelligent you are. Intelligence is not measured by grades, contrary to what people think. Intelligence is measured by your ability to solve problems creatively okay that's why when you take an iq test is not who was the president of the united states in 19 fucking 22 it's hey look at this shape and which one of the other shapes is the same shape look at this it's very it's a totally different. So a lot of people confuse education with intelligence and it's not. When you can go through and get a, let's say a master's and a doctorate at, you know, world history, that doesn't shape your intelligence. It shows that you're able to memorize facts and identify them. So there is a total separation between educated and intelligent. And the business world has started to understand that culturally. And so we are no longer looking for just people that

follow directions because we live in a world that's so fast paced that we need creative ideas and free thinkers and people who can solve problems creatively. We need intelligent people, not just people with a fucking piece of paper. And because people invest so much time and money and energy, they want their degree to really mean something like dude we have people who have worked here in the past that think they deserve more money or more advancement because of their degree well guess what motherfucker i don't have a degree so i don't give a shit right okay so that means now if i want to go to a doctor i want to make sure that he went to a good fucking medical school yeah you know there's we have that's, right? So I think more people are starting

to identify that. And I think the good thing of, of, of this happening with many college students is they're going to get ahead in life. They're going to have less debt. They're going to have more opportunity. There's many other companies like ours out there that are the next generation of whatever it is that they're doing you know whether it's barbecue pits or fucking whatever you know like i'm i want some barbecue so that's not okay in my mind but you guys get what i'm saying you know whether it be cars there's next generations of all these big names that we grew up with traditionally you know there is the next nike or the next reebok or the next asics these companies are not going to just continue to maintain their

dominance. There's the next version coming. And you guys, as people who, you know, a lot of you guys are entrepreneurial minded listening to the show, you should be looking to get in with those kind of companies from the ground floor ahead of the $150,000 debt that you're going to have going to a traditional college. And so I think the benefit that what's happening here is we, we are going to lose the radical indoctrination. That's going to start to fade away naturally. And they're doing it to themselves by demanding the school stay closed. So that's a good thing in my opinion. Um, and then what we're going to do is we're going to create a new, a new level of educators that are new level of educators that care about educating.

They care about the kids. They care about the students. They care about learning an actual skill to win. have invested you know 40 50 100 000 200 000 in their education only to come out and be chained to that debt for 20 30 years well that's a purposeful societal play for control and people don't people don't see that if you're in debt when you come out of college at 24 years old 200 grand it's going to take you till you're fucking 50 to pay it off are you supposed to just start living when you're 50 you see what i'm saying right so what do you have to do for the next 30 years what do you have to do you have to work right you have to work at work so it's a way for them to create job security and stable economies in all these areas so we have

to understand that like the education that our country and our world needs now is far less of that formal education and far more a specialized education. And so I think it's a great thing is what's happening now. And I know there's a lot of people who are going to get real mad at me for saying that, but that's just how I see it. Well, I have friends who know me and they're probably going to get mad at me and saying, oh, I thought you were a big fan of higher education. I'm not against higher education. What I'm against is the lie that everybody has to do it. I'm against the lie that there's a standard pattern that everybody has to follow in order to be successful in life. And I think that's the lie that we've been told. College is for some people, but it's not,

I would say it's not for most people. I agree with that. I would say literally it's not for the majority of people in our country. And if you think about it, I mean, 30 years ago, people went to college because they wanted to. Right. Not because they were told to. Not because, you know what I'm saying? And like, it made everything better.

It made the classrooms better because kids were actually there because they cared. Right. And they wanted to be there. Right. The teachers cared, right? And they wanted to be there. The teachers cared because they had students that wanted to be there, right? It wasn't just this indoctrination or force-fed, you know, this just over-ending cycle that just got kids pumping to your door because there's a dollar sign over their head. Right. Well, and two, I mean, this goes way beyond my age or Sal's age or your age. I mean, when my parents were in college, they could actually work themselves through college to pay for it.

I could not have done that. There's no way I could have done that. The tuition was too high. At some point, you have to ask yourself, like, how did this happen? Why did the cost of college get so bloated? But, no, I just think, uh, I, I think there's good things coming. And I think like the RTA syndicate is the, is the model of the future in terms of, uh, uh, you know, how we develop as people, how we, how we develop skills and aptitudes and

knowledge. I think that that model of what the other models similar to that, there already are, but that are more specialized even than that right like i think we're starting to come you know and i think what we're going to start seeing is some accreditation concepts come out to certify which ones are good and which ones aren't you know what i mean right now we have a verification check like our entrepreneurship academy is basically the only one i know of with a fucking verification, but we all know that doesn't mean shit. But my point is, is that there's going to become a third party quote unquote accreditation or verification program for these educational programs that are out there.

And if, and you know, Hey, if there's not, that's a great idea for free for somebody go out there and create it. Yeah. I mean, I was waiting for Brandon to pop back in the room,

but I almost look at it differently. Well, you have a different perspective too. Yeah. Oh, that's wrong. No, no, no, exactly. No, this is the thing. So you look at the executive offices in here, right? Two have degrees, two don't have degrees.

So there's no right or wrong reason in that sense. And I look at- Who has the offices on top? I got an agree one-on-one. No, no, no. Chris has a degree. Chris has a degree. He's got fucking multiple degrees. And nice try though. I tried. It was No, no, no. Chris has a degree. Chris has a degree. He's got fucking multiple degrees.

Nice try, though. I tried. It was almost, almost, almost. Me and Jason are dumbasses. Almost. And I look at all the things, all the great things that I learned in college. Yeah. You know, I had unbelievable college experience.

Well, that's what I say. College didn't cost me a fucking dime. Yeah. You know what I mean? I have this thing called athletic ability. Some of you don't know anything about it, DJ. No, that's what I say. College didn't cost me a fucking dime. Yeah. You know what I mean? I have this thing called athletic ability. Some of you don't know anything about it, DJ. No, that's a good point, though. And I learned a lot of valuable skills in college that have helped me here.

Leadership. Locker room. Yeah, but Sal, you didn't learn that in a classroom. I mean, I went to college. I just didn't walk away with a degree. No, no. You got all that same shit, too. That's right. I just didn't walk away with a degree. You got all that stuff to do. That's right. I understand what not to do in a relationship.

I learned all that shit when I was 18, 19, 20. It took me a little longer to learn it. So that's a good point. The college experience, I believe, is very important. It's extremely valuable. You know, and I think about, and this is, you know, some, you know, some younger kids who are 18, 19, 20 who go right into working. I like the first thought that goes into my mind is, man, you got robbed. Because I think 18, 19, 20 who go right into working. I like the first thought that goes into my mind is, man, you got robbed. Because I think 18, 19, 20 for me, dude, I had so much fucking fun and did so much stupid

shit that if I fucking didn't get it out of my system and purge it. I think that's a super fair point. Yeah. And that's a there's given take with that. That's consistent with what we've been saying. We haven't said that higher education is bad. We've said it's not for everybody. No, but that's the, there's given take with that. What we've been saying, we haven't said that higher education is bad. We've said it's not for everybody. No,

but that's the lie that's told to our, well, there's, there's, there are, there are different version of that though. Yeah. There's ancillary positives that people don't talk about,

you know, like dude, like watching Southern Illinois go to the sweet 16 and, you know, and, and no, it's cool. Yeah.

Yeah. It was dude, Kent Williams, who was my buddy, you know, and fucking hitting threes on ESPN, you know, and no it's cool yeah yeah it was dude kent williams who was my buddy you know and fucking hitting threes on espn you know driving down a lane like that culture that you had that team that that sense of pride in the fucking maroon color like dude you don't fucking yeah yeah that's that's a great point man so there's although i understand like do i think

the edge did i learn something in the classroom Let's say that I learned that my fucking accounting teacher was hot. That's what I learned. I don't know anything about accounting. I can add, subtract, and multiply faster than anybody you ever met. Ask what I want to ask. Yeah. But dude, Darla Starnes. I still remember her name.

Dude, here's the thing, dude. Fuck, I heard Google search about to go to a trillion. Search it. Look, man, here's the thing. I think, see, this is how discussions happen so now we would talk about a solution because we i think we agree that there there's a lot of overpaying and under delivering an education system i don't disagree with that yeah so so so you make a great point that is contrary to the point that i just made and so the solution is somewhere in the middle in the middle and i think that's reflective of every issue right now you know uh i i do think it's fucking high uh fucking illegal hijacking for

a high school athletic department uh to cancel a fucking season well no no for for a high school ad to make like in chicago where these guys are making 400 fucking thousand dollars a year like that's fucked up you know what i'm saying and what happens is like this is this is where college went wrong they all get to vote on their own shit and their own pay and their own pay scale and they're voting for their buddies and they're doing this thing in college in 25 years went from affordable to fucking crush your entire life right and hold you fucking you know well basically chained to the debt yeah sal that's the problem though like that the i think that right now that the the financial obligation

does not equate to the benefits that you know and so you know it's like any industry that's over fluffed right eventually there's a there's a there's a coming to Jesus moment. And I think the education system is having that right now. I think America is having that, right? Yeah, for sure. But I think there's other good things too. You know, I think one of the biggest things that's, this is what I'm really looking forward to. I think this is going to happen. I believe it's going to happen. I believe that we'll eventually come. I think we'll come out of this with more racial unity than we ever had. I think we will. As bad as things seem right now, as tough as things seem right now, and I can only obviously speak for the black people that I personally get to interact with,

which is a good amount, everybody's tired of the hate. Everybody's tired of the fucking we're supposed to hate each other. You know, I think a lot of people who, you know, on June 2nd, who were, you know, really angry are starting to see that we are purposefully divided on this issue. And I know that because I've had just literally hundreds of conversations in my DMs with people and there's, you know, we're tired of hating each other. We don't have to hate each other. They say we have to hate each other. We don't have to. We're also probably tired of being told that we hate each other when we really do.

No shit, bro. I haven't talked to one black person like litter, like all the motherfuckers calling me names and racist on. Those all white people every motherfucking one of them every one of them not one black person has reached out to me and said dude you're a fucking racist that they have said things like man you know uh i listen to this part of you this like what's that about and you know typically what i'll do is i'll voice a message back and we'll have a voice message and they can hear my tonality and understand like, you know, because we all know that text is a terrible way to really communicate. Right. Um, but there's conversations happening, you know, and people are starting to, to, to get to the point. They're like, fuck dude, I'm fucking tired

of this. We don't, we don't actually hate each other. You know? And what's funny is, is when we start to actually have a conversation, it's interesting how much shit that we actually want that is actually the same exact shit. It's the exact same shit. And we're getting told by the media, those people fucking think this about you. No, they fucking don't. And then, you know, that's, but that's for both sides and, and we're all caught in the middle right now. And, and, and that's the other ironic thing. I think, you know, that's, but that's for both sides and, and we're all caught in the middle right now. And, and, and that's the other ironic thing. I think, you know, the media has gotten a little, uh, not a little, but a lot overconfident and brazen and their deception ability. And dude, I don't think that the mainstream media, I don't think they're going to survive

this. I think this is the last, this is the last stand for mainstream media as we know it, uh, you know, that's going on right now. And I think the panic that's going on is they know it's coming to an end and people are waking up and they're fucking terrified. And you know, these people who think they're, you know, it's like when you start to lose control over something and you fucking panic. That's what I see. I don't know how you guys see it, but I see a lot of people for a long time who have been able to tell us all this or that, you know, or you're this kind of person.

And all of us are kind of looking around and we're like, um, none of that shit's true. And so the social media platform that they actually created to instill, uh, actual, you know, connection is working because we're able to communicate directly now. You know what I'm saying? Like, imagine if social media, like a lot of people are dogging social right now for their censorship. And I fucking agree. It's bullshit. But let let's be honest what if we didn't have social right now and this is all we knew was what we saw on tv holy fuck right you had like three major networks and they were controlling all we would be in a actual civil war right now today i would own more guns than i own and i own a lot of guns yeah yeah but i'm just saying like

imagine there was no social media counterbalance right now to what's going on no that's a that's a great way to Chris said the same thing yesterday he's like dude like you know you see all the stuff in the news but then like dude I get all my stuff from right here he holds up his phone yeah because I can see it right here like it's instant you know I'm saying it's not it's not biased it's not you know filtered down it's not none of that i mean that's powerful and that's the one good thing i mean there's a few good things about social media but that's one of them dude i'm excited for these racial tensions to be lifted like i am like being

from st louis you know it's been six full years of this shit i'm fucking done with it man well it's like duane said yesterday that uh because when i saw him he's like, I'm from Portland. I'm like, fuck, dude. Oregon must be really bad. How's it up there? He's like, dude, it's literally two blocks. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, well, shit. It's not the whole state? That was my point earlier.

We look at the 1%. Don't you guys remember Ferguson in 2014? It's the same thing. Dude, I was in fucking Forest Park when that stuff was on. I had everybody in the world, because they knew from St. Louis. They're like, fuck, dude. You okay? Are you safe?

What's going on? They're outside your house, aren't they? And I'm like, yeah, bro. It's like a four-block area where shit's cracking. And so, dude, I talked to, and that's bad enough, right? I'm not minimizing it. No, no, no. I'm saying the media was making it right? I'm not minimizing it. No, no, no. But I'm saying the media was making it look like the whole city was burning.

Right. It was the whole state. And, you know, from the outside perspective, that's what you think. Yeah. So, like, we've all been watching Portland, and we're like, holy fuck! Fucking war! Yeah, right, right. But, dude, what it is, it's a couple hundred fucking motherfuckers doing bad shit.

On two bucks. The media is actually doing themselves a disservice for their cause because i think we can all agree that the media skews far to the left all right the media is actually doing themselves a disservice by by focusing on such a small aspect of that because what it's done is it's pushed the middle and the actual traditional democrats to the right yeah, fucking think about that. Because they made it look like every fucking left supporter is some crazy fucking lunatic, burn shit, break shit, tear shit down.

And, dude, that is not the case. The case is we have a small area in Portland that is under attack consistently. It's a fucking few thousand people. It is not the attack consistently. It's a fucking few thousand people. It is not the whole country. It is a fucking few thousand people. There are 20, how many? 230 fucking 8 million people in this country or some shit like that.

233. It's like 317 or 320. I'm sorry. Yeah. But the point is, is that there's a lot of people and they're showing a little bitty group as if it's the whole group. And what that's done is it's put, so do you understand what I'm saying?

It's been counterintuitive to their own cause. Does that make sense? Yeah. Okay. So these people, you know, they're, they're trying to like rally more people to join this shit.

And even the people who would traditionally vote Democrat are like, I mean, what I'm fucking about, right about that. You know what I'm saying? And, uh, I don't know, man, it's, it's going to be interesting because I think we're going to wait. I think I do like, this is not conspiracy theory shit. I, I hate to use the term great awakening right now, you know, because it's what everybody's using. But I actually think that's happening. I think people are seeing legitimately through the media, through the propaganda, through the fucking lies, through the lies that we've been told by people who were finding out on a pretty consistent basis are not very good people. Right.

That's a whole nother fucking shell shock to us. Like these motherfuckers in Hollywood who are got, they're on every motherfucking cause on every fucking thing. We're starting to find out they're doing all this weird shit and they're part of this weird culture and all this shit. I mean, dude, we've been fucking duped.

All of us. Two years from now. Huh? So two years from now, there's going to be pineapples everywhere everything's gonna be real urban yeah dude i'm just saying uh i still am not putting a pineapple in my ass prove it not sure that was ever the proposal i saw it in your eye son i know why you drove all the way here. Yeah.

You drive here for nothing. Oh, my. But, dude, I do believe, like, for real, and we'll close the show here with final thoughts after this, but I do believe a lot of good is coming. I believe a lot of good things are coming. I do believe it's going to get super chaotic for a minute, and I believe that people are going to think're going to think that they're crazy you're

not crazy the world's fucking crazy and we have to all be less crazy ourselves so we don't fucking burn it the fuck down right we're it's the same thing i said i don't know fucking six months ago we're we're all in the same boat and we got half the people drilling holes in the bottom and then happy about it you know that doesn't make any sense if we're all in the same boat and and and i'm sitting one end and you're sitting the other end and you're drilling holes in the bottom to sink me that don't make no sense you know i'm saying right yeah so like we have to all you know do our part in helping people and how do we do that sal said it earlier you got to be the example you got to be the person who you know and that's why like when people say this shit to me, I'm not like I might put them up on blast for a minute, but I take it down. I'm not trying to ruin their fucking lives. You know, by the way, if you talk shit on me and do ignorant shit and say shit to me, you should know that my people are pretty loyal and they will fucking bury you. So, you know, I try to take that responsibility serious because I don't really believe in that shit. But when you're, you know, like it's true. Yeah. So I don't know, man, but I do think people

need to start sticking up for what they believe and the people that believe it. And I think that if we all would just, uh, take a couple of breaths and remember that everybody out there that is, that is irritating you right now is also a human. They're also struggling. They're also having a hard time. They're also having anxiety. You know, they're wearing hazmat uniforms or yeah, dude. See, I think that's like on one hand,

that's a, that's a little funny, right? It's like, Holy fuck. I've never seen that before. It's tragically funny. Yeah.

But on the other hand, I want to go up and be like, bro, you know, let me give you a hug. Of course, that'd be the worst thing possible, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel bad for people right now because I know I can see

what it's doing to them. And not everybody's ready to receive the, the understanding that, that people are willing to lie to them to get their way. Right. And you know, people will discover that on their own as it goes but um my final thought on the whole thing is like you know guys we are truly all in this together and i my biggest concern right now is what i said multiple times on the show is that other people they all see us the same why can't we see us the same? I think that's something to really think about. What do you think?

Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree more. Dude, I just want everybody to win. I'm seeing a lot of people lose, and I feel like there's a lot of people that should be losing, and they're going to lose pretty bad. But for those that are not on that side i want y'all to win and so it's like i mean we we are all in this together so you know the moment we we stop you know demonizing all of our differences and realize that like that that's what makes us amazing we'll be much better off for it yeah well i mean i you know how do we how do we progress over perfection? I say it all the

time. And how do we progress? And, you know, progression a lot of times comes with, or at least in my experience, progression comes from fixing what looks back at you in the mirror and understanding that we have all have our own faults. And in order for you to learn to accept somebody else's faults, you have to learn that you also have faults. And a lot of times we're so quick to point the finger at somebody else's imperfections when in reality we haven't addressed our own. And, you know, if we really want the world to be a better place, fix your own shit before you go throwing fucking stones through other people's shit. It's difficult to do. That's the problem. Yeah. But I mean, just like anything else in life, the difficult path is typically the one that you should travel.

And you know, when you look at the mirror, you know, there's a lot of fucking thoughts that trickle through your head and whether you choose to listen to them or not is the difference of you progressing or, or not. And what I say by that is like, we all know what looks back at us and you know, like if you lie to yourself a little bit and you pass the mirror and you take a quick peek, like, and you've told that lie, you know, and you, you ask yourself that question. We all do that. Right. But whether you take action on what looks back in your mirrors, totally on that thought is a totally different fucking outcome.

And when I think about the situation, you know, whether it's race, religion, politics, like you all, you have your, your deep inner thoughts and I challenge you to question them. You know, it's like, can you watch CNN for one week? You know? And I, fuck, that's a scary fucking challenge. I don't want to do that shit, but I would, if it helped me understand, you know what I'm saying? Like, can you do that for one week? Can you help, can you get a little better this week? You know, can you do one thing for somebody to make their day better today? You know, can you. How's CNN going to make you better?

No, trust me. It's punishment. I was sitting over here like, where are you going with this? Well, where I'm going with that is, you know, there are just like you watch Fox or I watch Fox. There are people who religiously watch CNN. No, no, I do as well. But I spot watch, right? I watch them all

so that I can deduct the truth from what's going on. I know what you're saying, though, Sal, sorry. I know what you're saying. You're basically saying watch something that you know is intentionally presenting as an opposite side. Of course. Something that's in conflict with what you believe. You've got to listen to the other side, man. It goes back to

the development of young leaders. I think that's key. How the fuck are you going to ever meet somebody in the middle if you don't know where they're coming from that's right you know like how are you never gonna solve racial tension unless you understand what the fuck they struggle with like it's not gonna happen and so it's easy to sit up in your little house and fucking talk about whatever happens down on the hill but it's a hell of a lot different to walk down the hill and go fucking you know hear it for yourself and it kind of comes back to the donation thing, you know, like you need money, but you do need people who do the work. There's two, two sides to that. And,

you know, I was always a money guy until I went to Haiti and now I do both because I understand it takes both. It's important to have this perspective of both. It's yeah, it is. It's not important. It's the key. Yeah key yeah you know like most people don't understand that that's the key well that's why dj and i were literally uh down there where david dorm was killed the day after it happened yeah you you gotta see yeah you know it was it was eye-opening for both of us yeah well but that's the difference between watching it through a screen and seeing it with your own eyes yeah um something that you said andy a a long time ago on one of the MFCO episodes was kind of the key, really the ultimate key to solving the race issue is for each of us to be the

best possible ambassador of our race that we can be, be the best possible person. And it's interesting now that I'm working full time with college students, I can't wait for you guys to see the total rebranding of what I'm i'm working on with with the ministry because it's basically i'm trying to second floor ministry i i'm what i'm i'm i'm well that was guilty that was fucking guilty i don't know what second floor ministry what i sincerely basically gonna take everything you learned here and then go apply it there yeah Yeah, basically, it's going to be. You're going to steal all our good ideas. It's going to be first form for God, basically.

Can we sue you for that? I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't be the first person we sued today. That's scary. It's also factual. things that I really feel strongly about is I want the ministry I'm working with to basically take ordinary college students and transform them into exceptional men and women of faith. There's two things I specifically borrowed from First Form. The first one's not the faith

component because I say faithful, loyal, and helpful. Faithful is obviously, I love Jesus and the church, but loyal is I got your back, and helpful is what do you need? I got those both obviously from the culture here at First Form. To be fiercely loyal to the men and women with whom you work and your friends and your family and everything, and then also to grab your dad's famous quote, what do you need? That really is what customer service or running a business is all about is what do you need? And I just feel like we have let the media and we've let politicians and we let a lot of power brokers in our country complicate the issue for us about all the different things that are possible solutions to our conundrum. No, it's really very simple.

All of us need to be faithful. We need to be loyal to each other and we need to be helpful. We need to do our best to provide value for everybody else. If we do that, the problems in America are going to be solved. The problems are not going to be solved by political parties or by policies or by some sort of convoluted plan presented by the media or politicians. It's literally going to come down to us being the best possible ambassadors of our race, of our religion, like you said, of whatever it is we're trying to represent.

And if we're just good people and, and, and do the best to their, of our ability to pursue excellence, I think the problems are going to be solved. All right. So that's the show guys. Moral of the story is be a good dude or do that. That's it. All right. So appreciate you guys listening.

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