REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 669. Andy, Andy Stumpf & DJ CTI: Outraged American TikTokers, West Point Removes Key Words from Mission Statement & Georgia Judge Dismisses 3 Charges Against Trump

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

In today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by former Navy SEAL, Andy Stumpf. They discuss the outraged American TikTokers venting their frustrations as TikTok faces a US ban, West Point re...moving, "Duty, Honor, Country" from its mission statement, and Georgia Judge Scott McAfee dismissing three charges against Donald Trump.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up guys, it's Andy Frisella and this is the show for the realest, say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society. And welcome to motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have Andy and DJ Cruz, the motherfucking internet. That's what we're going to do. That's what CTI stands for, guys. It stands for Cruz the Internet. This is where we put topics up on the screen. We talk about and speculate on what we think is true, what we think is not true.
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Starting point is 00:02:30 All right. So, guys, very special episode today. Got a good buddy of mine coming on the show here, Mr. Andy Stumpf. What's happening, bro? I'm not prepared for the intro, you guys. Just did. I don't have any opening remarks. I don't know how to live up to that. I didn't know you guys are gonna go hard to paint like that I appreciate it though yeah it's like holy
Starting point is 00:02:50 shit they're going right out of the gates okay I have nothing to add to this well guys if you don't know Andy Andy is an entrepreneur father former Navy SEAL Adrenaline Seeker Enthusiast Enthusiast Yeah All around fucking Badass dude man What else
Starting point is 00:03:11 What am I missing I don't know about that last part No it's true bro Aggressively average and mediocre Is what I aim for Every day But Set the bar low
Starting point is 00:03:17 Trip underneath it Most days And you're gonna be okay Yeah That's about it It covers it all Alright Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:22 Well that's fair That's fair I like the comb over Yeah that's a good it covers it all all right yeah well that's fair that's fair uh i like the comb over yeah that's a good look man what was this what was this picture that's a lot of hair jill that was actually taken in singapore no shit yeah i was doing i was a keynote speaker for an asia business summit for barclays bank of all things oh sweet i mean i can dress up okay sometimes it's a good look man it's also a time ago. I don't think I look that young anymore. So a little bit more gray hair.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah. Come over is a good look, man. I like it. I wish I could do it. That's a better look. Yeah. Yeah, that is a better look. I think I was made-
Starting point is 00:03:55 How old were you in that picture? I think 25. So 2000, I was 25. Oh, shit. What's going on here? So the first deployment I did, how can I unpack this? All right. So there are East and West, how can I impact this? All right, so there are East and West Coast SEAL teams, odd
Starting point is 00:04:08 numbers are on the West even numbers are on the East. Internally inside of the SEAL community, we would consider the conventional special operations, you would call it the white side SEAL teams. The black side of that would be the JSOC commands commonly referred to are known as development group. So I went through selection for that command in 2002. Which anybody who knows anything about history knows that was very proximal to a huge event in the United States. The invasion of Afghanistan, when did that actually happen? It was late in 2002. I was in training when that was happening. And one of the tasks for that
Starting point is 00:04:40 command was providing security for Hamid Karzai, who's the person. What's actually happening in the picture is we're getting ready to leave, and he was signing a piece of Afghan currency, basically, as a souvenir. So they actually pulled us out of that selection process for that command a little bit early and surged us over there so we could, it's called rip or relieve in place, the squadron that was there so they could get back, retrain, refit, take some time off. And yeah, so that was my first trip into Afghanistan, deployment with that command.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It was post the assassination attempt. So really, it was a security detail. We hung out, protected him when he was inside of the palace in the government office, traveled around town in a little bit. It was not that long of a period of time. Nothing happened while we were there, but that's the tail end of that first deployment. Now, are those grenades two different size? Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Tell me about this. Hold on. Sometimes you have a grenade problem that's big and sometimes you have a grenade problem that's small. You have to have the tools for the job. I didn't know they made them in different sizes. I didn't either until I got over there and I saw them and I was like, I like to have options. Yeah, and they're both equally ineffective.
Starting point is 00:05:48 They look bigger in this picture than they did in person. One of them was very, very tiny. It probably would have worked in a phone booth. And the other one, you know, I wish grenades, you know, you watch any movie. They pull the pin. A lot of times I like to cook it off. Not a good idea because there's variation in the fuse. And they throw it and this huge fireball goes off,
Starting point is 00:06:08 like a 55-gallon drum full of gas. In real life, it goes crack and a little bit of dust comes up. So in the movies, you pull the pin in real life and let it go. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you don't fuck around. No, you don't cook those things off. It's a good way to lose a hand, huh? They say that there's a three- to five-second fuse second fuse yeah how do i know if i have a three to
Starting point is 00:06:28 five second it's pin huck get behind something now you said you brought up in the movies dude and so i don't know much you know i never served and i don't know much about navy seals and what's going on i got you know we got some mutual friends and stuff. So I did some research. Last night, I watched these two documentaries. Hopefully one of them is Charlie Sheen. On Navy SEALs. And I wanted to get your take on which one of these is more accurate. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So we have Under Siege from Steven Seagal. Yep. Okay. And we have Navy Seals from Charlie Sheen. I'd say if you combine the two, you have the entire career from a nonfiction perspective in a nutshell. Yeah. I mean, is this pretty accurate? No. However, the one in your right hand, Navy Seals, I probably watched that 100 times before I joined.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I thought it was going to be very close to what the job was like. It was nothing like that whatsoever. And then Under Siege, how Steven Seagal, who is a ferocious piece of shit as a human being, was able to actually continue to make. I mean, just do some research on his treatment of women and just start right there. And I'll let you guys do your own research. How he was able to continue to make movies or even star in that role is just beyond me have you ever seen his like magic oh yeah kung fu shit people send it to me every single what the fuck is that you know i don't actually it's it's made up yeah short answer you know when i watch those videos i'm more concerned with the person that is willingly pretending than I am with him up there trying to do the bullshit-su.
Starting point is 00:08:10 All the people that are. Bullshit-su. All the people in that room that are flying and falling down. Yeah. Do they go get cocktails afterwards and say, hey all know this is fake right do they ever have a moment where they sit down and say hey we like we agree this is bullshit but we're gonna participate anyway or do they actually believe that to me is so much more fascinating than like the master i always watch the people in the background never the master himself they're probably like dude
Starting point is 00:08:42 you see that move steve got me in yeah i saw that one that finger lock yeah he took it easy on me today he could have fucking killed me yeah but then if they ever were to try it on anybody ever i'm gonna get their ass beat yeah what do you mean i can't block a knife by just turning my stomach and the guy fall like it's like napoleon to grab me here yeah i mean i don't know i actually think that it speaks to some people are so desperate to be a part of a group of any kind that they will literally detach their cognitive reasoning ability to do so. The value of being involved in that circle is more important than the reality of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:17 There's no self-identity or worth or esteem in those individuals. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's sad, actually. It is sad, but also I derive an immense amount of entertainment from it so i support it it's actually fun to watch this is pretty amazing and then you're like but it's fake but still but yeah so when you so when you decided to become a navy seal did you guys do like the golf cart polo shit because like that looked fun if you saw it in that movie, we didn't do it, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yeah, because I figured that would be the reason to join. What are those, Andy? What are those? What are those called? That one might be a Blu-ray. This is called a DVD, DJ. What is that? So this is what we watched.
Starting point is 00:09:59 DJ's only 27 years old. 28. 28. I know what a DVD is. But have you ever watched one? Yeah, I've watched them. Okay. I know what VHS is. But have you ever watched one? Yeah, I've watched them. Okay. I know what VHS is too.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Now don't go past that. I don't know anything. How about Blu-ray? Yeah, I do Blu-ray. You know LaserDisc? Like a floppy disk? No. LaserDisc was like a DVD
Starting point is 00:10:15 but it was like big. Like this. What about Betamax? I know Betamales. Well, we all know that these days. That's a fucking fact. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Those are the two common uh movies i actually get questions about though really yeah i wish that i wish the
Starting point is 00:10:32 navy seals one was real i went into the community thinking this was what it's going to be like and uh no no it wasn't dude i watched that movie in the theater when it came out. Navy Seals? Yeah. Good man. Good man. I grew up wanting, when I played golf, that's all I ever did was play golf polo. I would just drive the golf carts and hit at least one round of golf every single time. A lot of country clubs don't like that. No, they don't. That's why I don't golf anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I was politely asked to not come back. Anyway, so dude, what is this? Pick up the elk. The elk. That is a big fucking elk, dude. That is a big elk. On a bow too. What I'll say is this though,
Starting point is 00:11:16 depending on the angle that you take the picture from, and I was with a very high level photographer, they can make it look bigger than it is. So that's actually sitting at the wall on my house. I need that photographer. Yeah. It's, you know, they get the right angle. They twist the antlers toward him.
Starting point is 00:11:30 That was at a- That's how DJ does his dick pics. That's what I'm saying. I mean, lighting matters, I've been told. Never shoot from below. Always shoot from above. That guy's a number. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:42 That is at a ranch in Utah. It's a private ranch. i was invited to go there i think that was the first or second year that i had ever bow hunted and sicka paid for my opportunity to be there and that was actually on the last day on the last hunting opportunity and it was the most elk i've ever been around right before i shot that elk though i'll send you this video once i can get find it on my phone that thing walked in straight to me to three yards oh where i was sitting there and i hadn't drawn back i was legitimately wondering like what self-defense situations would look like with an elk and decided in that moment that i would kick the cameraman at it and then run the other direction sharing with you legitimately what i thought as it was coming there was a cameraman right i'm like
Starting point is 00:12:22 okay this is what i'm gonna do do. He's got to go. I'm going to sacrifice him for me afterwards. There was no time in the moment. This thing was coming in on a rope. And it was screaming. It's fucking me or you, bro. Yeah. It's going to be you.
Starting point is 00:12:36 It was coming in. And so I eventually just stood up. Because it saw us. And then it backed off a bit. And it bounded off and maybe stopped at 10 yards. So I was able to stand up and shoot it. This was yards from where i shot it it's uh it was an intense experience um you people hear the bugling of elk if you watch it on tv or on your phone it sounds amazing but when you're that close when it's reverberating inside of your body it was pretty
Starting point is 00:12:59 intense it was awesome it's huge dude it was big i've never hunted before so i don't know anything about huh that would uh yeah i don't know if i would start people on a bow if they had never hunted it's a little bit more challenging and there's less tolerance for mistakes because you have to get so i've shot i've shot a bow quite a bit i just never went hunting combining the two is tough you have to get pretty close to animals rifles will buy you a little bit more uh space and you can you can make some more mistakes but it was wild i've hunted there since then and i've never had an experience like that one it's it was fantastic that's cool yeah how much how much meat comes off of an animal like that oh man i would say you probably get somewhere between four to five hundred usable pounds of meat holy shit yeah geez so you gotta like fucking give it away and stuff just freezer full i start
Starting point is 00:13:45 well i am fortunate and i usually will get a couple elk tags per year which does not equate filling your freezer every time i think last year i had three elk tags and i got one elk yeah anytime i fill my freezer i immediately just start giving away to friends and family it is so good yeah i've had it a couple times a couple of my buddies have have uh let let me try elk before at their house it's good it's good i liked it a lot of times. A couple of my buddies have, have, uh, let, let me try elk before at their house. It's good. It's good. I liked it a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Higher protein value than your normal meat. You're going to get at the supermarket. And it's cool to tell a story too. Like when, anytime I'm cooking for my kids or no, we had elk lasagna the other night. Yeah. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:14:17 Oh, I'm not gonna eat the rest. It's like, hold on you little shit. Let me tell you the story about me carrying that out of my back. That doesn't go in the garbage. You're eating that right now. That's right. I like that. Yeah. yeah that's fucking good did you mount this thing
Starting point is 00:14:28 yes head only i've never been a huge fan of like the full body mount or some people take it down to right in front of the front shoulder um i'll actually like the euro mount so it actually gets skinned and caped and then um i think bleach so you just have the skull and then the antler where do you have that at that's in my house in Montana okay I shot a bull there I was with Glover our mutual friend Glover two years ago he shot one one day I shot mine
Starting point is 00:14:54 two days later and I have both of those up at the coffee shop oh that's badass yeah and I point out to everybody if you notice one is slightly smaller Mike's obviously and then mine is the more regal elk on the right-hand side. Now, is that just with the elks, or does that cross over to everything else? I mean, he's Asian.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I fucking love Mike. Bro, he's the fucking best, man. I fucking love Mike. Yeah. Dude, so speaking of your coffee shop, you have a super awesome Black Rifle coffee shop. We have the only Black Rifle coffee shop in the state of Montana. Yeah. So let's talk about that because that's in the fucking news right now. You know, I'm friends with the guys.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I don't know Evan, but I know JT and Matt, And they're great dudes. And I see them getting fucking attacked again over this Act Blue shit that has already been addressed like a thousand times. So can we get to the bottom of this once and for all? Because honestly, I'm just tired of seeing good people be drugged down by people who are on the same team. I mean, we can try and here's what will happen. This that first came out, I remember seeing it a few years ago,
Starting point is 00:16:07 and it seems to be on like a 12-month cycle where it pops up again. So I don't even know where you start, other than people think that the ActBlue platform is actually a political party in and of itself. So I always start by letting people know it's actually just a payment processing platform. Yes, it is dedicated towards causes that are on the democratic or left side of the aisle house but in and of itself it's very i guess it's probably not similar to paypal it would be what
Starting point is 00:16:36 would it be like maybe gofundme they take they strip a small portion of what you donate and then the rest of the money goes towards the cause that you wanted to go through so a few years ago the first time i had heard about it um evan the founder of black rifle has made two donations that i'm aware of one of them he lost a bet so he donated i think it was 500 bucks to the obama campaign and the other donation that he made was to tulsi gabbard because she is a personal friend of his and a fellow veteran. Tulsi's cool. I haven't met her yet. We've communicated, had a few opportunities to try to have her on my show,
Starting point is 00:17:11 and it just hasn't happened yet. But she seems to be, as far as politicians go. I haven't had her on either, but we talk in the DMs and stuff, and she seems cool as fuck. Yeah. So I'll come back to Evan's donations in a minute because I think it's important on how ActBlue actually works. So what I have seen in the last few days is people are it's a very tightly cropped image of and it's a it might be an SEC filing. database and somebody at some point in time took a screenshot of the list of people who have donated and put in their employment Black Rifle Coffee. And there's actually two versions. It
Starting point is 00:17:52 says Black Rifle Coffee and then underneath it says Black Rifle. It doesn't have the image that I have seen circulated. It doesn't have their names. And so it's cropped, at least in my opinion, in an attempt to make it look like Black Rifle Coffee as a company is supporting the Democratic Party. And that is the message that is being largely permeated throughout social media, whatever news sources people may want. And it's wildly inaccurate. And as far as I can tell, this latest round that has come out was actually started by a competitive coffee company to black rifle so it makes a little bit more sense as to why it's making the rounds again because anybody can go on there and don't so i'll get to that because i was around with act blue this morning today in real time to try to understand what you can get around what you can do well how much can you play
Starting point is 00:18:40 around with could you actually get a group of friends and utterly troll an individual or organization? And the answer is you absolutely can. But if you back off from that initial screen grab optic, it would have the names. If you went even farther than that, it would have the amounts. And some of those amounts are like $2.50. One, Black Rifle Coffee as an organization, and it says on ActBlue, and all of this is self-certified. There's no team of wizards behind the curtain that were verifying this information, at least based on my own experience on the platform.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Right before you hit pay, there's like five little things. And it says, by submitting your payment, and I'm broadly describing what I saw this morning, by submitting your payment, you are agreeing to our terms of service. You're saying you're an individual. This is your money. You're not making a donation on behalf of an organization or a pact. And there were two more. And you click on it, your money's gone, and then you can show up on this database. So Black Rifle Coffee as an organization is not donating to the Democratic Party. I'd also challenge challenge anybody let's say every name that appears on that list is real and i think there's eight eight entries and some of them are
Starting point is 00:19:51 repeat names i mean how many people do you have working for you what's your head count here 450 to 500 in the office there's a zero thousands outside a zero percent chance they all have this homogenous idea of the the world should be. Yeah. And their belief system, whether that be religious, personal, spiritual, economic, all of those things. I could give two shits if people inside of Black Rifle Coffee, employees, donated money to the Democratic Party. I don't give a shit. One of the most beautiful things in our country that I appreciate is the ability for all of us to sit in this room, have different beliefs and go live our life.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I totally agree. To the best of our ability. Now, what's interesting about ActBlue, and I'll get back to what I was talking about, about Evan actually putting his name on there and Black Rifle Coffee. I went on there this morning and made a donation to a Democratic senator, I think it was in Montana. It's like five or 10 whole dollars. I hope he saves a moose with it or does something cool. And it says employment. And I put gray rifle coffee. And what's your position? Head barista. And I just hit donate and off it went. And my point in saying all that is maybe just because you find it on the internet, you shouldn't believe it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Your fleet of employees, we could task them with just crucifying any organization that would be considered on the conservative side of the house. Donation after donation after donation after donation. You can put down there whatever you want. Yeah. The fact that Evan put down Black Rifle Coffee should show to people he doesn't give a fuck that they know he's donating. That's right. He's not trying to hide it. He actually is. You don't he's donating that's right he does he's not trying to hide it he actually is you don't have to like this guy's a fucking idiot you don't have to put
Starting point is 00:21:30 down any information if you don't want to he chose to put that there on a platform i assume at the time he knew would be searchable because it doesn't matter people just need to do their own research and just don't believe everything you see on the internet. Don't you think this lends itself to a bigger conversation about the responsibility we have as a culture to recognize cancel culture as a societal weapon for division? Meaning for the last 10 or so years, the left has had a monopoly on cancel culture, right? Pretty much if you didn't toe the line or you even spoke out of line, there was very little tolerance for difference of opinion.
Starting point is 00:22:14 The exact opposite of what I think you and I share in common in terms of what we think the country should look like. We might have differences in opinion, but those are okay, and we can talk about those things. And as long as you're not stepping on my toes, I'm not going to step on your toes and we're all going to get along. And what I've seen and noticed is the cancel culture has shifted from the left to the right.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And I feel like a lot of people on the right are not understanding, like because they've been abused for so long by the left they now have the power and that power is being wielded irresponsibly against people who for the most part have the same belief systems and believe in the same things that they do uh because you know they don't agree with every single detail someone says you know like we saw this a lot with like the trump and desantis thing right all of these people want the same outcome but they're killing each other internally on the same team over uh you know get there yeah right exactly dude and so now we have a social power base that's over on the right side and at some my opinion some point in time we've got to come to a realization
Starting point is 00:23:26 that like this societal weapon because that's what it is cancel culture it is a weapon to make people fall in line with whatever the narrative whoever holds the power is we have to like understand that this is not good for the country in any way, shape, or form. It's not good for us to try to hammer people and ruin their lives and get them fired and destroy their companies because they may have a different belief that we have, even though the core belief system that we have is very much so aligned. And when I look at this situation with the Black Rifle guys, I see that. Because the people who are canceling them,
Starting point is 00:24:05 these people, if you go look at every other single post that they talk about they're talking about the same shit that those guys believe in yeah you know so it's it's very frustrating to watch this happen and it would be nice if we could get to a point like and i don't know where the line is right like like when we see the anheuser-busch thing happen with Dylan Mulvaney, like part of me is like, okay, well, that was necessary as a show of force of, hey, we're not going to accept this in our culture. But then it's like, well, how far do we take this? Do we take this to where we do what they did? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Like, what do you think? I mean, I think Bud Light is piss beer to begin with, and it shouldn't have been consumed ever by anybody. Personal opinions. Don't come after me, Bud Light lawyers. I'm not a fan of your product. I agree with you. It's almost like you can't, there's no way to be enough of the thing that people think you are without getting attacked by some fringe element. It just keeps going farther and farther and farther and farther. Yeah. Like we were talking when you were out there you know working out you know people have appropriated the term patriot yeah and it means it seems to mean two different things depending on which side of the political aisle that you are on and i hate that our country has
Starting point is 00:25:18 almost been reduced to a binary left and right and everything is a bifurcation of that. The cancel culture thing, I agree, it absolutely is a weapon. And I hope that people can recognize that it's optional. There are egregious errors that I think are made by individuals and organizations sometime. And I think one of the key things that's missing before people hop on that bandwagon with a vigor that is shocking is that how many of us would survive the lens and scrutiny of some of these people i am a galactic fuck up me too i have made so many mistakes and if all people got to see was mistake after mistake after mistake i wouldn't blame them yeah for canceling me but they're willing to use a lens that they themselves couldn't survive. And I don't say that to try to excuse behaviors from individuals or organizations.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It's just in this realization, okay, this is a weapon. I do have a choice whether or not I can participate in this. Should I take a breath? Just educate myself a little bit more do i need to hop on this bad wagon there's another option too that's a quiet one just vote with your wallet yeah you know you don't have to like throw gasoline on the fire if you don't like bud light which i advocate people not liking bud light because of the taste don't drink bud light yeah drink whatever their uh course light or whatever their competition would
Starting point is 00:26:44 be you know like vote with your wallet don't waste your time on social media don't drink Bud Light. Yeah. Drink whatever their Coors Light or whatever their competition would be. You know, like vote with your wallet. Don't waste your time on social media. Don't virtue signal to me the things that you believe in because I have my own life to live and my own mistakes to make. It's a fucking mess
Starting point is 00:26:55 and I don't know where it goes, especially when the needle keeps going and going and going and going. Like what is patriotic enough at this point? What does it mean to be a patriot? Like do you have to wear a certain color hat and say a certain color thing and have a certain bumper sticker if you don't have those things well fuck you you're not part of our group right i don't know where it goes yeah i don't know where it leads but i don't think it leads anywhere good
Starting point is 00:27:15 no it doesn't i agree with you it's something that we have to come to terms with and be adults about and say hey what is this country supposed to actually be? It's supposed to be free. Now, there are things that as a culture we're not going to accept. We're not going to accept grown men shaking their dicks in front of kids at drag shows when they're three years old. That's not something that we're going to accept. We're not going to accept men getting in a swimming pool or on a basketball court or in a volleyball game and beat the shit out of women. That's not acceptable.
Starting point is 00:27:49 But outside of those collective standards, you know, that are harming people and that do dangerous things to other people's kids and other people's lives. I mean, really, man, we're supposed to kind of do our own thing here and live our own lives. And like, you know, you don't have to like what everybody does. I think that's a big common misconception about what freedom actually means. You know, freedom is like you say, it's not like a, it's not like a one track narrow definition. If you really want freedom, that means you're going to have to have tolerance for some lifestyles that you don't necessarily want to live. Maybe it's essential that you don't like every idea that you are surrounded by. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:29 If you are only being told the things that you like by people that you agree with, and again, people who live their life however you want to, I would be worried that I'm living inside of an echo chamber. Yeah. That would concern me. I'm not scared by ideas. I'm not scared by people's thoughts. I'm not scared by their voices. I like the fact. And to me, our country should be about, okay, you have an idea.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I have an idea. You think my idea is shit. I think your idea is shit. Let's pull them into the spotlight. Let's logically work our way through them. And at the end of the day, people can make their mind up off of that through an objective and logical discussion. Not me trying to weaponize something to shut down your voice or you weaponizing something to shut down my voice bring that shit out yeah talk about it dude i think i think people are afraid of that though because i think most people's opinions
Starting point is 00:29:12 because of social media they're thin that's right they don't have depth yeah they're not comfortable standing on defend it huh they can't defend it no that's what i'm saying there's no mile wide and an inch deep. Yeah, that's right. They know everything, but if you dig in, they don't know it. Like, we see this in these little videos that you go on the street, right? Like, they go on the street and they say, who are you voting for? Oh, I'm voting for Joe Biden. Why?
Starting point is 00:29:37 And then the shit that comes out of their mouth. That's racist. Yeah, the shit that comes out of their mouth right after that is like comedy. And that's what makes the clip. Because it exposes people for the lack of understanding of any of their mouth right after that is like comedy and that's what makes the clip because it exposes people for the lack of the lack of understanding of any of their ideas and i think the reason that we have such an aggressive you know shut up sit down take your business fuck you you're fired type culture is because people just aren't capable of standing on their own opinions and and dude you the life you've led and the life I've led, that's a necessity. Like we've had to lead people. We've had to say, no, this is why I think
Starting point is 00:30:12 this, you know, you can't build businesses. You can't lead people. You can't accomplish objectives without explaining, Hey, this is, I think this is a good idea. And this is why I think it's a good idea. And in your case, the life you've led, if you're not willing to hear the feedback, fucking people get killed. So there's real serious consequences to not thinking like that. And I don't think that most people have that in their lives anymore. They're just reading on the internet some shit and parroting it because it sounds good, and they want to get a couple likes on the comment they make.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I'm very passionate about the things I believe, but i don't arrive at those positions quickly right and i'm also completely open to telling people that i don't know yeah there is such a narrow bandwidth of i actually if i'm honestly assessing myself and how i feel i don't feel like i am an expert at anything there's a very narrow bandwidth of topics that are largely completely useless in society that I have a level of experience with that I feel very deeply about my opinion and where it came from. And other than that, I just try to sit back and take my time and educate myself and learn as much as possible. I don't think there's any reward to having the fastest velocity to getting to an opinion.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I think it's more than anything, there's the risk and downside is like a hockey stick going up the faster you get to those spots. I don't know when it became faux pas to say, I don't know. Or if somebody were to come up to a street with one of those cameras and ask me that,
Starting point is 00:31:43 and they asked me a question, and I didn't know the answer, I'd say, to to be honest with you i don't know enough about that to answer you yeah but i feel the same way and i think there's a lot of freedom in being able to say i don't know you know like you don't have to have the pressure on you you don't yeah you know we talk a lot about this uh you know in our personal development shows you know i personally am of the opinion that a great leader will say that without reservation when it's true the best leaders that i have ever worked for i'll use an example of a commanding officer at a seal team so in the navy they have n codes it's1 through N9. And those are just the departments
Starting point is 00:32:25 largely tranched out that would work for you. Probably similar to the infrastructure you guys have here. N1 would be our admin. N2 is intelligence. N3 is operations. You have planning, logistics, all of those things.
Starting point is 00:32:36 We would do weekly meetings with the commanding officer. The worst leaders that I've ever been around were the ones who tried to be the smartest person in every room that they went into. The best leaders that I've ever been around were the ones who tried to be the smartest person in every room that they went into. The best leaders that I've ever been around were the ones who tried to staff the smartest people in each of those areas and then put them into a room and solicit for their feedback. Ask them questions and then make educated decisions. No attempt to be the smartest person in the room.
Starting point is 00:33:00 They staffed their weaknesses. Those are great leaders. Yeah, man. them they staffed their weaknesses yeah those are great leaders yeah yeah man i i think we're at a situation in culture where uh a lot of the a lot of the false realities are going to crumble very soon i think they're crumbling now what does that look like though i don't know i don't know what do you think? let's just say they're a little bit different. Nobody wants that. I think if it were to kick off, people might be a little hesitant to continue because of what it would require. I don't think anybody out there really wants to go out
Starting point is 00:33:52 and get into a gunfight with their neighbor in their HOA cul-de-sac. Like that's not what we're looking for here. It's horrible. It's horrendous. And I don't want that for anybody. So I don't know what it'll look like because again, in a consequence free environment behind your screen,
Starting point is 00:34:06 you can say whatever you want and this is what's going to happen. And this is what I'm going to do. I don't know what it looks like. I don't either, man. It's going to be interesting. You know, I do think,
Starting point is 00:34:17 I do think that the woke, the quote unquote, woke progressive agenda is done. It's losing steam at, at the least. Yeah. Yeah. I think the, and I also, I also think that's normal. You know, I, I, again, at 46 years old, I'm not going to even pretend to be an expert on all the generations that have come before me, but I just talking to my dad and asking him about conversations he had had with his grandparents. Every generation of society had some weird pendulum swing
Starting point is 00:34:49 that found its center again and then probably went back the other direction. So I think it's just kind of our natural way. And I suspect that every generation is like, that's it, it's fucking over. We're never gonna get through this one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, dude, it also does feel like, me though i feel like you know uh have you read
Starting point is 00:35:08 that book the fourth turning no so there's a basically the theory is every 80 years there's basically a repeat of history right and you know and i agree with what you're saying the the pendulum goes back and forth and that's you you know, I'm, I'm around the same age as you on 44 and are in my life. I've seen it go back and forth. Right. And you have to, and I, I, the thing that concerns me is that I see it going further left and then further right. And at the end, at some point in time, over the course of history, that usually ends with a genocide of some sort and so that's what scares me it's like you know when we were in the covid stuff and everything was going
Starting point is 00:35:49 crazy you know there was no shortage of people who were on the covid bandwagon who were calling for the removal of somebody who wasn't vaccinated from society we had justin trudeau one of the world's one of the leaders of the world, I mean, comically, but he's the fucking main dude up there in Canada talking about, hey, we don't know what are we going to do with these people? They're a danger to society. They were building literal camps. So it concerns me when you go back and look at the things, how they behaved during that
Starting point is 00:36:21 time, and then what's the result going to be now that it's swinging? The other end. Yeah, dude. That's kind of concerning to me, man. Well, it's a rubber band, bro. You can only fucking stretch it so much before it snaps. That's the unfortunate thing. But to your point, Andy,
Starting point is 00:36:36 it's like most people are just not going to be prepared for that snap. That's the reality of it. So I don't know what that looks like. Yeah, I don't even know if it can be avoided. Yeah, well. I think the way to avoid it is by speaking some reasonable common sense shit on a regular basis. Well, and also asking for accountability too, right?
Starting point is 00:36:58 I mean, that's the biggest part. There was so much damage that was done. I mean, even just looking at the COVID stuff, there was so much damage that was done i mean even just looking at the covets if there was so much damage that was done and caused at the hands of people who don't really have our interest and it's obvious everybody knows it right so a lot of people forget it and so you can't have the accountability aspect of it that will prevent that from happening again because the precedent has been set we've already shown that people are going to be mindless sheep that follow along with
Starting point is 00:37:23 tyrannical rules and so it's like the the only way to prevent that from happening again is to hold those people accountable in our society. But I don't know that enough people call it that. The organizers. Correct. I mean, I'm talking top of the top, right? Like, I mean, I want the generals, you know, not the fucking frontline soldiers, right? It would have been so much better during COVID if they were less dogmatic. And again, it goes back to being able to say, I don't know. Like if Fauci had gotten up and said, maybe a couple of times a week,
Starting point is 00:37:51 hey, boys and girls, doesn't this suck dick? Maybe don't use those words when you're announcing to the nation. Boys and girls. Sorry. So sorry. I apologize, Fauci, for recommending you open your speech with that. Let's go with your speechwriters on that one. But if he had gone up a couple times a week and said, this is the best information we have at the time, way less dogmatic, instead of telling people you have to do back and forth and finally everybody not everybody but a large majority of people started saying you i can't tolerate this anymore you keep telling me you're an expert but you're flipping back and forth and then of course you know as time progresses on and you hear things like fauci saying yeah i don't know where the six foot principle or rule came from you know or now we tell nobody they had to wear a mask yeah and it's like i also have the internet sir and you know i would like to show
Starting point is 00:38:53 you a few things or saying you know that the u.s doesn't fund gain-of-function research and it's very clear that the nih was supporting through uh proxy entities what was going on in wuhan like it's insane but also at the same time a lot of countries were. I did a podcast specifically on the Wuhan lab. And dude, Canada sent the Ebola virus to Wuhan on a commercial airliner for them to study and have Ebola in Wuhan. It's insane the level of interconnectivity that this stuff has. And it's all shielded through this lens of being very dogmatic and being dishonest yeah that's what gets the rubber band to snap i think in my in my opinion yeah people like you didn't tell me the truth last time i can clearly say
Starting point is 00:39:35 like you're standing out there in the rain and you're telling the american public that it's sunny out i'm not gonna listen to you anymore we'll take this up further at what point does it cross the line of like this was not not just like, oh, they messed up. This was intentional. Like when, like, is that how I feel? I do. 100% release of COVID in and of itself. 100%.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah. I think it was 100% dude. I think it was, I think it was a complete intentional. Like, dude, if you go back to that time, right? Like if we could just fucking like get in a fucking time machine and you go back to that time, do? Like, if we could just fucking, like, get in a fucking time machine. You go back to that time. Do you have one? If you look at, I mean, I wish.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I was going to say, let's go for a spin. Well, we can't go that, we can't go far back, like, too far back. Okay. You know what I'm saying? All right. Hey. Right? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. 1970s. Let's stop right there. But, dude, it's like, I mean, like, dude, they were showing clips on mainstream media of people falling out in the streets, right? Like, or, or, or the, the, the fucking refrigerated trailers that they were using for mass graves and to hold all these bodies and pictures and videos of body bags on the street. Right. And there was such a simultaneous push from every place,
Starting point is 00:40:40 every single government in the world, every single media outlet, it was all simultaneous. All at the same time, right? I mean, 10-4 had or not, I mean, the evidence, the stuff is out there, right? Event 201, you go back and look, like, this stuff was planned. So, like, when does it cross that threshold of, oh, hey, this was, hey, we just fucked up? If it was an operation, they fucked up, though. up though because i think what they actually showed people is that they need to think for themselves if something like this happens in the future as opposed to demanding an immediate
Starting point is 00:41:13 compliance if it was an operation to see how far they could push it i think they up i i think it i think the operation wasn't just to see how far they could push it. I think the objective, I am of the opinion that we are in the midst of a coordinated communist revolution subversion in this country. And when I look at COVID and I zoom out and I look at it, and I felt this way while it was going on, but we're a few years removed from it now, and I look at what the actual result was what was the result well we had the biggest wealth transfer in the history of
Starting point is 00:41:51 mankind and it and it didn't go from rich to middle class it went from middle class to already ultra rich they closed the stores they closed the restaurants 70 percent of business yeah a lot of those businesses never dude where i live there live, there is a Main Street. Oh, fuck. It's actually called Main Street, too. Yeah. There are- I was thinking about that.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I was like, son of a bitch. There's probably a Main Street in every town. But where I live has maybe got a population of 30,000. Yeah. What was able to stay open, Walmart, Home Depot, Rose, some gas stations. What closed and are still empty pockmarks down Main Street were small businesses. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And I believe that was intentional. Because when we look at what the World Economic Forum wrote in COVID-19, the Great Reset, and what Klaus Schwab preaches, these guys talk about, they talk about, you will own nothing and you will be happy. And when we look at how BlackRock and some of these huge funds are buying up all the residential property um it's very clear that there was preference given to the already ultra rich and so what i see how i see what happened was they scared everybody they create a massive division. It created massive confusion. It helped their cause for the election.
Starting point is 00:43:09 It put Trump in a spot where it was zero win. There was zero way he could win that scenario. The pressure, people like to talk all this shit on Trump, and I'm not some kind of idolizer of Donald Trump. I'm just being real. If you're the president of the United States and you have every single advisor around you, including, you know, uh, the media fucking everybody saying this is
Starting point is 00:43:31 the worst thing and you don't do anything about it, you're you lose. Okay. Now, and because he did something about it, now he's getting that held against him too. So there was was they put him in a no win um but the biggest play that i saw was the was the division and then also the transfer of wealth and when you look at like what communism is all about it's about the consolidation of ownership at the very very top and nothing for everybody else and the promise is always you guys at the bottom we're going to take care of you it's going to be a utopia and you don't have to work and we can do all. And it's never works out that way. You end up killing those people.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And so when I look at COVID, I see a. And then if we look at like the border situation and what's happening and all of these things happening in one big play, you know, it's I believe it it's an intentional third worldization of the United States for the benefit of the global elite. And that's, that's how I, that's the perspective I've seen it from the whole time. Now, could I be wrong? Sure. Could, could I be hypervigilant on it? Maybe, but it seems to be that from my perspective, the dots are connecting. Yeah, dude. And, and, and it's going to be, you know, I don't think people are with it anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So it's going to be real interesting what I, you know, we talked about this out in the gym earlier, you know, what it's going to be like from here moving forward. Because I believe these people have committed what I would consider crimes against humanity at scale, at global scale. And I believe that they understand that if they lose control, they're probably going to get held accountable. And if you have someone whose back is in the wall in that situation, you have to ask yourself, if you were them, what would you be willing to do to maintain power? And the answer is anything. And that's what gets me real nervous about what's going on in society especially for the next you know eight months or whatever we've got it to go until you know to that yeah so so i would agree with you if your hypothesis is correct i would agree that those are absolutely
Starting point is 00:45:38 crimes against humanity what would be what would be the steps that you would take to course correct that um this what do i think should be should be done what would i do what could we do yeah what can we do to change the trajectory that we're on well what i would do if it were me is probably not what anybody else would do oh tell me more yeah um yeah what what i would do is i would get some 14 to 16 foot poles and I would put them in the White House front lawn and I would decapitate all the organizers of this of this play. All of them. And I would put their heads on the stakes and I would let their stakes. I would let those stakes stay there for the next hundred years. And I would remind everybody what happens to people who do things like this to regular citizens that's what i would personally do and i know that's crazy
Starting point is 00:46:30 but it's a non-conventional for sure a little vlad the impaler you know i'm saying but the tyrants don't stop themselves dude they don't and tyranny never stops themselves these people believe that we are peasants and that that we should be subservient to them we are too stupid to live our own lives they believe that we they they have the that we should be subservient to them. We are too stupid to live our own lives. They believe that we, they, they have the right to take all of our money and oppress all of us and, you know, do all kinds of shit to make our life difficult. And if we ever truly want to have freedom, those people have to be held accountable and not just held accountable, held accountable in a way that sends a signal for the next 200 years that, hey, man, if you do shit like this
Starting point is 00:47:06 and you start to, like, fuck with people's, the people, their country and their livelihood and all this shit and you get to a point, bro, this is the end of what you're going to face. And if we're being honest, this is what's happened in history over and over and over again. And that's how this shit has stopped. So, you know, I know that's an extreme example, but that's what I would do. What I think likely could happen is that it could take 10 years and these people get prosecuted and they get, you know, put in prison when they're 90. You know, I don't know. Have you ever seen the execution video of Nikolai Ceausescu from Romania?
Starting point is 00:47:44 Oh, dude, it's a chilling video. I don't generally look for execution videos. Well, yeah. I mean, I guess it does show it. No, but so Nikolai Ceausescu, he was the dictator, right? It was a communist installation in Romania at the time
Starting point is 00:47:58 and there was a revolution. The people turned on him, right? And him and his wife, they were court-martialed and they were sentenced to death by firing squad and as they're carrying you know like you know grabbing this man taking him out to the to the wall he is still in the tyrant mindset like he is still saying like you know like how are you guys doing i am your leader even the wife like they they believe their own power and it was like it's it's a very shocking video to watch, man,
Starting point is 00:48:30 because even at the end of a barrel, you're still holding on to that power. Tyrants will not release that stuff themselves. So I think it's dangerous. I think the accountability piece, man. Well, the problem is, bro, is I feel like they'll do that to us. When you look at what they've created with the domestic terrorism list. Are you on that by chance? I haven't checked it.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Oh, man. We're frequent flyers. I don't know. What day does this episode come out? I might be. Yeah, no shit. No shit. I just look at, they're taking the, I don't know what we, you know, I call it patriotic. Um, but guys like you, okay. Guys like me, guys who have, you know, uh, believe the same core beliefs that we believe about America,
Starting point is 00:49:14 um, who they've always promoted as like the American standard sort of thing. You know what I mean? And they've taken these people and they've put them on domestic terror lists and they villainized them. And they said, it's the biggest threat to the country and all this shit fucking 10 years ago bro it was fly your flags support these you know what i'm saying so when i look at what's happening dude i it makes me super nervous dude i i got nervous during covid i was like fuck if these people win they're gonna kill all of us like and and that's what makes me real nervous about what's going on i'm nervous about this year's election cycle i think we have to restructure some things in government otherwise and i'm not an expert on government but i worry that our current system may no longer be tenable yeah like we have to have term limits yeah
Starting point is 00:49:58 we have to have single issue bill voting as opposed to these fucking 1000 page documents bills oh my god and the people will tell you like i read nothing in this yeah you know maybe at best they have an ai program now they can spit out talking points yeah um i don't think they should be able to buy uh stock while they are in office yeah um i mean those three right there lobbying should be illegal yeah those four right there would have a huge impact on the direction and a lot of the stuff that we're talking about. If you can't make a career in politics, which I don't think politics was ever supposed to
Starting point is 00:50:31 be a career. No, it was supposed to be service. Just like you served. And I think that's why they, you know, the founding fathers were, it seems like they were pretty damn smart. I don't know if they could have forecast the country growing to this size. I bet you they didn't even consider somebody being in politics for longer in their life than they had been out of it. They're like, no, why would they do that? They would go
Starting point is 00:50:48 back and be a farmer or whatever it is. So it makes sense to me that the document is incomplete, hence we have the ability to amend it. I think though, I'm worried that if we don't modify some of those things, that the train may be too far down the track to turn around. And I don't know what that looks like either. Yeah. Yeah. I, I share those same concerns. Yeah. I think those rules that those four rules, and I think, you know, there's a couple others that would, that would be useful, but, um, you know, it's against the interest of those in power to implement those for sure. And that's, and that's the issue. Yeah. Like, dude, there's against the interest of those in power to implement those. For sure. And that's the issue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Like, dude, there's other things that we could do in society that would fix society. You know, like, for example, you know, there's. These people are lawyers, right? They're all in law. And a big problem in society and culture right now is false accusations. You know, frivolous suits like the the the lawfare that happens in this country is insane. And I think that in our legal system, there should be some repercussion where, like, for example, you know, there's clearly a double standard that women can accuse men of doing things and they don't have to be true for the man to suffer the consequences
Starting point is 00:52:11 of the accusation so like if a woman were to uh accuse a man of abuse or rape and even if he didn't do it he loses his job he loses his friends he loses his reputation that's right and all it has to take is an accusation so in situations like that there should be repercussions where the person who makes the accusation would serve the sentence if it ends up not being true or something like that there needs to be some sort of recourse for these frivolous accusations and frivolous lawsuits and because dude there's so much injustice done in that. And then there's so much money lost in the business aspect, dealing with things like this. I mean, you're in business, I'm in business.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Dude, the amount of bullshit that it takes to run a business is insane. It's almost not worth it. And I think they wanna make it not worth it so that they can consolidate even more of the business to their buddies, you know, the biggest places in the world, the biggest guys in the world. And, you know, and then we talk about taxes, right? Like taxes is another reform that needs to happen. The fact that you and him and me and everybody listening here, when we add up all our taxes over the course of a year, we work for the government
Starting point is 00:53:23 more than we work for ourselves. It's not just income ourselves it's not just income tax it's sales tax it's property tax it's all this other shit tax when you buy tax when you sell if we added all that up all of us are paying more to the government than what our government uh or than what we get to keep what does that make us that makes us tax slaves in our own country that's supposed to be the freest country in the world that that has to change and you know that i believe that the reason they make it that way is to financially oppress people for control reasons. If people don't have financial resources and they're worried about making their ends meet, it's very difficult for them to concentrate on what's happening in Washington, D.C. or what's happening in their local politics. So if you create enough division,
Starting point is 00:54:02 enough hardship, enough enough confusion enough anxiety enough stress it's really hard for the average person to get activated to pay attention what's happening in the country which gives them free reign to do whatever they want yeah if you're trying to survive you're just trying to make it through the day that's what i'm saying so like you know we we i get frustrated on the show because i'm like fuck guys we got to get engaged here we got to talk we got to get you know and but then i'm like fuck fuck, guys, we got to get engaged here. We got to talk. We got to get, you know, but then I'm like, fuck, dude, a lot of people are like legit panicking because they can't fucking survive. Yeah. You know, and it sucks, dude.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It's not how it should be. And if all of us paid 10% tax all in, how much different would the life of the middle class person look like? It'd be a massive difference, dude. It'd be way better as a business owner. Dude, that's what I'm saying. And the socialists and the communist people, they're like, oh, that's greed. No, it's not because you don't understand what it is to run a business. If truly, if I'm a greedy person, then I'm going to want to create way more careers and way more jobs and way more shit. And that's how it flows. It flows down through the capitalist system. And people don't talk about that. You know, like, okay, you don't, you, you would never reinvest that tax money into your business. You would just keep it. Are you, are you a fucking moron? Well, if I'm as greedy as you say I am, then why the fuck wouldn't I
Starting point is 00:55:18 take that money and grow my business so I can make even more money. And by the way, during that, I'm building thousands of careers for people. They don't understand the flow you know and it's again it's it's it's surface level talking points it's not deep talking points at a younger age i didn't understand those things either yeah not true yeah you're like well that person has more than me um i want what they have and it's it's not fair it's not fair yeah which is i've only found the fair in northern iaho and they have or in iowa it has cotton candy in a merry-go-round you know i mean that's what the fucking fair actually it doesn't actually exist in real life it's one thing i've come to in my 46 years everything is unfair yeah um yeah i didn't understand at a younger age i think a lot
Starting point is 00:55:58 of those arguments when it comes to wealth and the development of wealth it's interesting i know people my personal life who started at one end of the spectrum and then actually went on an entrepreneurial journey. Like, well, this sucks. Why do I have to pay this? Their ideas, the story arc of their ideas naturally shifted over time. Yeah. So there is an essence of just the experience there.
Starting point is 00:56:17 There's a saying about that. It's if you're young and you're conservative, then you don't have a heart. But if you're old and you're conservative, then you don't have a heart. But if you're old and you're liberal, then you don't have a brain. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that's fucking true. I like that. Yeah, it's true, man.
Starting point is 00:56:35 It's true. Anyway, that's the longest intro we ever did for the show. I fucking love it. We're 56 in. Yeah. Is that good? That's great. I like it.
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Starting point is 00:56:53 You guys can find them linked there. That being said, let's get into our first headline. Headline number one. Headline number one reads, outraged American TikTokers hilariously vent their frustration to Senate inches closer to banning the app with influencers worrying they'll lose their jobs as creators and be forced to return to dreaded nine to five jobs. So I believe it passed already. It did pass. TikTok is going to be forced to sell or relocate and become an American based company.
Starting point is 00:57:24 But let's dive into this article a little bit. So the stress is setting in for American TikTok influencers who are taking to their favorite app to vent their frustration after the legislation that could ban the platform was passed in the House with overwhelming support on Wednesday. Content creators are now worried they could be forced to return to dreaded nine-to-five careers as the bill now heads to the Senate. Hilarious memes also surfaced on tiktok wednesday afternoon as users crack jokes about the potential ban of the platform that has more than a million of active users in the u.s
Starting point is 00:57:56 this is uh here's one of the memes that came out uh says the u.s house has officially passed the bill to ban tiktok of its uh if company ByteDance, refuses to sell the platform. Gen Z on their way to storm the Capitol. God, I love the Internet sometimes. The Internet can be great. For memes, it's undefeated. Memes are probably the best thing that ever happened to me. Real talk, dude.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I'm here for the memes, dude. They're so good. That's what I'm here for. I'm talking like tears down my face laughing sometimes. Yeah. So, you know, TikTok responded. memes dude they're so good i'm talking like tears down my face laughing sometimes yeah yeah um so you know tiktok responded uh tiktok ceo tells users to protect the constitutional rights against the tiktok ban he actually really did this in a video um but he's uh he said over the last quote
Starting point is 00:58:36 over the last few years we have invested to keep your data safe and our platform free from outside manipulation we have committed that we will continue to do so. This legislation, if signed into law, will lead to a ban of TikTok in the United States, Chu claimed in the video. He says, quote, we will not stop fighting and advocating for you. We will continue to do all we can,
Starting point is 00:58:56 including exercising our legal rights to protect this amazing platform that we have built with you, Chu told users. Quote, we believe we can overcome this together. Now, so this is all going on. Did you guys see what Rumble did? No.
Starting point is 00:59:10 You didn't see it either? No. Oh, shit, this is a first. What happened? Well, I just want to take this in real quick. Yeah, well, I mean, I can't catch everything, man. Fuck. I got other shit to do, too.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I am. I'll be like, it doesn't happen. Fuck, so this is what it feels like. Yep, this is what it feels like. Yep. This is what it feels like to be on your game. Congratulations. So in a very interesting move, Rumble comes out and they said they'll buy fucking TikTok. This headline reads, controversial free speech site Rumble wants to buy and operate TikTok
Starting point is 00:59:43 in the U.S. to stop Congress from banning Chinese-owned app. So an American company has offered to buy TikTok to prevent the Chinese-owned app from a nationwide ban. A letter from Rumble CEO Chris Pavlosky surfaced on the company's Twitter page Tuesday, declaring his online video platform is ready to, quote, acquire and operate TikTok in the U.S. This is a letter that came from him. Um, I believe this was released on Tuesday, I believe Tuesday,
Starting point is 01:00:10 uh, yesterday or Tuesday. Um, since then their stocks are doing great. Um, it looks like it's trending. Um, there's no news if,
Starting point is 01:00:17 uh, uh, and then what, what he said in the letter to, to be, to be, uh, very,
Starting point is 01:00:21 you know, very real here. He, uh, he says, uh, Rumbles offer, uh, Rumbles offer to serve as a partner to a consortium
Starting point is 01:00:27 to acquire and operate TikTok is subject to the negotiation of a definitive agreement. So they could be in talks. They could not be in talks. I don't know how that's going to work out. Rumble has been working on some cloud-based technology, and all of their servers are here in the U.S., and it is a platform that has historically been free of manipulation and which, you know, that's what the Twitter files and all that stuff expose, which, you know, like it's very easy to say that, you know, OK, China's an enemy.
Starting point is 01:00:55 This is a Chinese company, has connections, however you want to say it. Right. But the fact that they're so vivid in controlling it, is it really because of national security concerns right like is that really the reason or is it really because they have no control over it like they did with twitter and they can manipulate data and narratives and they can manipulate through bots and they have no control over it you know you look at twitter before elon bought it you look at you know meta right like our? Like our government administration, our government agencies had their hands in all of these social media platforms to change things, to alter narratives,
Starting point is 01:01:30 or to get certain perceptions out there. So, I mean, what is really the truth? Is it the truth that there is a national security concern or the truth is they just can't fucking captain the ship, you know? I mean, I think both could be true. Yeah. Yeah, I think you could make an
Starting point is 01:01:45 argument for both being an issue i mean i can empathize for people worrying about their uh job being at risk i i struggle to not laugh when i see a title outraged american tiktokers like that's i'm doing my best to not like laugh out loud at that one because there are people who are working in that but i mean how many of you know somebody who was a real estate agent at one time especially when the markets are going great and then it it tanks and they have to figure out and evolve and figure out a different way to feed their family. I have reinvented myself four or five times in my life post-military. I think it's okay if your income source has a potential threat to it. Evolve as a person, read the terrain out in front of you. And if you have to, move along.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Now, I'm not saying I want that to happen to those people, but welcome to fucking real life. That's right. You know, welcome to fucking real life. The business, a coffee shop business that I own, or the supplement business that you own. We're a catastrophic world event away from that shit maybe not becoming relevant.
Starting point is 01:02:39 For sure. And guess whose problem that is if that happens. That's my problem, not somebody else's problem. You know, people can research China, and I think they should when it comes to Chinese-owned companies and the tie to the Chinese Communist Party, what the Communist Party demands from those entities and organizations. ByteDance, I believe, has a CCP member on their actual board itself. So I think there is potentially a national security threat there as well. And I think it could equally be true that there's a less control for the people who are in power, who would want to have the backside information to that. I'm not a tech guy, meaning I don't
Starting point is 01:03:14 understand the mechanics and how all this shit works. Like I don't, I can't even imagine how much is required to keep a platform like Instagram, just like just all the other physical infrastructure pieces. I feel like, though, that there are smart enough people in this world that could figure out a way if TikTok has got to continue to exist for some people, let's find a way that it can exist outside of the control of the Chinese owned company. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Create another organization somewhere that meets the criteria for the company. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Create another organization somewhere that meets the criteria for the U.S. and hopefully still keeps it out of the reach
Starting point is 01:03:49 of the U.S. government entity. I feel like there's a solution there. You know, I just, I struggle thinking of things as a catastrophe when we're talking about being a content creator online. Again, I can empathize. I don't want them to lose their job, but welcome to the fucking real world.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Yeah, man. You know, as much as i share the opinion that uh social the world was better before social media and the internet uh when i say that people really get upset about it but it's the truth uh and we talked about this you know you and i are of the age where we lived enough of our life before and enough after to i think have a valuable perspective to offer there. If I wanted to talk shit, I had to figure out where you lived. Yeah, no shit. Or ask somebody what your landline number was that your parents were probably going to answer.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Or walk over there and fucking knock on your door. Not only that, bro, you had to be prepared for the real consequences. Yeah. There's no consequences to fucking trolling or talking shit anymore. Dude, when i was growing up and when you were growing up if you talked the wrong shit you know what happened you had to stand on that and you might get your ass beat you might get punched in the fucking face and you know what that's good for you sometimes because you know what it teaches you not to talk stupid shit
Starting point is 01:04:58 all right and we have a whole culture of people who say whatever the fuck they want without any repercussions and then when you hold them to the fire, they play victim. And I could go on and on about this. But the point is, I believe that social media is fucking garbage. All right? And I believe the internet has made the world worse. And I would gladly give that all up, including all of the success that is created for my personal brand, my companies. Because I ran companies before the internet. I know how to fucking run a company. I'll go back to the way
Starting point is 01:05:29 I did it before and we'll fucking win that way. So I'm not afraid of that. And I would prefer that because then now I can actually do what, you know, business owners did back in the day. It's got to be six o'clock at night. They put the key in the door, they locked the door, they went the fuck home. They could fucking chill. They could have a conversation with their family, spend time with their dogs or their kids or whatever they're into, bro. I don't have that luxury like that anymore. That's I'm on the phone every day till five or till 10 fucking 11 o'clock at night talking about fucking work, bro. Because that's where the game has progressed to because of the available technology, right? It's like steroids and
Starting point is 01:06:05 baseball. Like, okay, a couple of guys start doing it, then fuck a couple more guys. Then it's the way it is, or you don't get paid. And that's what's happened in business and entrepreneurship. So for entrepreneurs now, if you're not playing the game all the time, you can't really be competitive because there's enough people that are doing that. And I think that really fucks the quality of life of people and and families and i you know but it's the way it is so i'm i'm gonna win because i'm a fucking winner right but and baseball still being played yeah that's right the game's still being played and i'm gonna play the game i'm gonna win the game but what you got to give to win the game because of the technology available is actually much more not less like what people think it is and i i'm
Starting point is 01:06:44 able to observe that and i don't think that's good i don't think that's a good thing um but getting to this specific topic you know when i first heard this i was like good ban them all great but then i started hearing like what this was really about from some different perspectives uh i mentioned this uh uh linda from wake up yeah wake up with linda her and i were talking about it and she was she was like no dude look this isn't about the chinese government this is about the control of the data and the sent their ability to censor a narrative because tick tock has woken up to what's going on so you know when we have the situation in on the Internet where nobody's abiding by what the proposed MS MSM slash quote elite narrative is and everybody's like, nah, fuck this shit.
Starting point is 01:07:34 That's a big problem for these people. So I've gone from, you know, seeing it as the China narrative that they said to seeing it as, oh no, this makes more sense. They're, they're afraid of everybody talking. And this is the same reason they closed all the bars during COVID because the seeds of revolution are sown in taverns, bro. So when you have a public square, that's not fucked with eventually people come to the realization of what the truth is and they can't have that. So that's how I see this happening now which makes me say okay uh as much as i hate social media this should not be happening and yeah there needs to be a solution where it continues to operate and we continue we keep it from the american government doing the same thing that the chinese government's doing now there's got to be a tech solution out there have you heard
Starting point is 01:08:21 how tiktok is used differently in china than it is in the United States? Yeah! Dude, I've seen it. Like what their algorithm is? No, dude, they show largely an educational tool. Yes, dude, they show fucking videos. So like here, dude, it's act as absurd as possible and you get the most views, okay? There's a video of this
Starting point is 01:08:39 person on the internet fucking rolling around in shit with a pig mask on and it's got like did i send you that that was you see just go personal contacts i didn't mean to share that was you shit i don't know it's hard to say there's a mask well the funny thing is i didn't mean for that to get the funny thing is i got it sent by all our mutual friends they all sent it to me because we all like fucked up shit. Yeah, dude. So fucking, but dude, this video's got like 100 million views, right?
Starting point is 01:09:10 Well, in China, they got videos of the kids putting together Rubik's Cubes. That gets 100 million views. You know, so we're talking about like, I believe that that's an actual subversion technique that's happening. Yeah, I don't think it's accidental. Yeah, no, I don't think so either. No, there's no way that's an actual subversion technique that's happening. I don't think it's accidental. Yeah, no, I don't think so either. No, there's no way that's accidental. And dude, a lot of the fucking trans bullshit that's happening in the world is pushed over here from China too.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Some of the biggest trans donors of all, just like George Soros does all this shit with the prosecutors in every city, there's three Chinese guys guys i don't have their names on top of my head these three dudes are donating billions of dollars to the trans organizations here in america and then the over in china they're fucking donating against those things so like what is that both sides of the chest dude what does that tell you if you just look at it like competition yeah that's the path that i would also take and dude does it make isn't that kind of weird how 20 years ago they started removing the ideals of competition from our youth remember like right after we graduated high school the participation trophy started coming in and it was no longer like hey you got to work hard and
Starting point is 01:10:20 win it was now like hey just show up that all comes from these motherfuckers. So like, we have to start recognizing these social initiatives that are actual cultural weapons against us. You know, things like they're, you know, everybody wins, uh, you know, removing the pledge of allegiance from the, from the schools, uh, you know, cancel culture, silent majority, political correct correctness these are all weapons against culture here in america that do not exist over there or anywhere else yeah so here's the interesting thing on this topic though right so like you know you follow the money there's also a lot of money coming from china going to biden right a lot million tens of millions of dollars right that shit's already been been discovered The interesting thing here is how, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:06 the White House and Joe Biden, they're saying that they're going to support this bill and support the ban. So it's like there's also going to be some implications here. Like, okay, well, how does that take that relationship then? Because this would be a big spit in their face if, you know what I'm saying, you're fucking up their plans of, you know, however...
Starting point is 01:11:22 I mean, could it be like, all right, we have a choice here. We can either do what China wants and lose because we're losing the narrative or we could try to save our own asses. See what I'm saying? Like trying to jump ship. Well, no, dude. If the entire TikTok platform has woken up, which it appears that it has, that means their progressive narrative has fallen apart in the Gen Z, which is the main demographic. So they have a choice. The choice is either appease China and let them continue to do this or guaranteed to lose the culture and probably lose their position of power and be held accountable so usually choices come down when they're hard to the lesser of two evils yeah and that's what
Starting point is 01:12:12 it seems like they're choosing that's that's how i see it yeah what do you think i i agree with what you're saying i could see i could again sometimes both things like yeah right everybody yeah it's not always this or that. Everybody has to believe like it's binary. Like maybe there's a shade of truth in all of that. Yeah. Maybe we're all idiots and we don't know what we're talking about. Speaking for myself, I fall definitely into that bucket.
Starting point is 01:12:36 But I know the money from China supporting Biden or any other political component, that shit doesn't surprise me at all. It's a very odd relationship we have with that country in the first place. They're one of our main trading partners, but also portrayed as one of our main enemies. You look at the fentanyl crisis in the United States, the precursor chemicals are clearly coming out of China, being transported to Mexico, where they're being received by militarized Chinese individuals are then being turned over to the cartel turned into fentanyl and then coming up through the southern border largely I know that comes in other ways and all over the United States we're feeling the impact of that where I live up in northwestern Montana so it I wish I could say it was something that simple the the
Starting point is 01:13:20 web yeah is fucking deep yeah you know from a money perspective to a trading partner to a global to what's going on in society i mean not an easy explanation exceeds my my iq for sure well i think i think also dude i i think what's kind of funny about this though is that they they put that they put the effort into creating social media um to really help control the narrative in society and it's blowing up in their face backfire completely yeah because they can't stop it they can't this is i like that that's fun yeah like a little chaos yeah i like seeing them i like them seeing i like see i like when people do something to really like try and hurt someone else or get an edge on someone else and then seeing it blow up in their face.
Starting point is 01:14:08 That's appropriate. Mainstream media sources probably don't enjoy the fact that people can be their own reporter at all points. Yeah, they fucking hate it. They probably have to, right? Dude, look at the revenue and the ratings. I was going to say, their ad model is based off of it. Yeah. Yeah, they probably despise it at a very deep level.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Yeah. I was going to say, it makes me appreciate it yeah yeah for sure well dude guys like you guys like me all these other guys out here doing that we are the media now you know what i'm saying the media has been fractured into a thousand little pieces and we all have our own little communities that we speak to you know and like we said rogan's got a fucking ridiculously massive community but uh you know that's the media now like people don't trust msm like like they don't trust these you know plastic people on television anymore they want to they want to and it also lends itself to business too who they want to buy from yeah you know what i'm saying like like dude when we talk about black
Starting point is 01:15:03 rifle and i see these guys i'm like you would rather you would rather buy what would you rather buy folgers you'd rather buy folgers from fucking uh the some of the biggest conglomerates in the world guys who don't give a fuck about you or you're but you're gonna drag these three dudes or four dudes who have built this amazing company you know what i? Like, that doesn't make fucking sense, bro. And we have a creator economy that's truly taking place where people are leaving. And I actually think we're in the middle of an economic revolution as well
Starting point is 01:15:34 with people's money. People are starting to realize like, hey, dude, I'm going to buy from this guy because I fucking like that guy. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to buy from these guys because they're not those guys. Now, Pete from Origin is a good example of that. Bro that bro yeah it's not as cheap as what you could get
Starting point is 01:15:48 commercially made overseas but people are willing to get behind it and vote with their wallet yeah because of what it stands for yeah beyond just the transaction itself yeah and how and dude you'd have to be a pretty fucked up human being to not like Pete. Pete's an awesome dude. You know what I'm saying? He's a great man. All the guys involved with that company, they're cut from the same cloth. They sell a pair of jeans that's three times as expensive as any other pair of jeans, but it'll last for 50 fucking years like they used to.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And your ass will look four times as good. Yeah, well, that's important. Throw that in the math. Now we're looking like reasonable. Listen, I will look four times as good. Yeah, well, that's important. Throw that in the math, now we're looking like reasonable. I'll spend a little extra money to make my ass look good. I need all the help I can get. Me too, bro. I wasn't blessed in the booty department.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Me either. You got no booty? No, I got no ass. That's your right part. Right, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just wish it would have touched the wallet part. Guys, jumping on this conversation, down in the comments, let us know what you guys think.
Starting point is 01:16:49 With that being said, let's keep this cruise moving. Let's head over to headline number two. Headline number two reads, West Point removes duty, honor, country from its mission statement. This is an interesting one. Let's dive into this a little bit. This is a Breitbart article reading, West Point Superintendent Army Lieutenant General Steve Gilland
Starting point is 01:17:09 on Monday announced a new mission statement for the venerable institution that replaces the words duty, honor, country for the more generic, quote, Army values. So the West Point's previous mission statement was, quote, to educate, train, The new statement says to build, educate, train and inspire the Corps of Cadets to be commissioned leaders of character committed to the Army values and ready for a lifetime of professional excellence and service to the Army and nation. So Gillen indicated in a statement that he wanted to focus more on the, quote, mission essential task of, quote, build, educate, train, and inspire versus duty, honor country. So he wrote a full message on the, on the West Point's website. It says duty, honor country is foundational to the United States military academy's culture and will always remain our motto.
Starting point is 01:18:18 It defines who we are as an institution and as graduates of West Point. These three hollowed words are the hallmark of the cadet experience and bind the long gray line together across our great history. Our responsibility to produce leaders to fight and win our nation's wars require us to assess ourselves regularly. Thus, over the past year and a half, working with leaders from across West Point and external stakeholders, we reviewed our vision, mission, and strategy to serve this purpose. We believe our mission binds the Academy to the Army, the Army in which our cadets will
Starting point is 01:18:50 serve. As a result of this assessment, we recommend the following mission statement to our senior Army leadership. So, guys, what do we got on this? Did they change it or did they just submit this as a recommendation? Oh, it's changed. Go back one slide if you could. So both the Secretary of the Army and Army Chief of Staff, they both approved the change as well. Go back to which part?
Starting point is 01:19:14 Right there. Yeah. Wow. I had not heard that. About this happening? I just saw this yesterday. I had not heard that. About this happening? I just saw this yesterday. I had not heard that. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:34 And again, this is my own personal opinion. I don't know if people realize how dangerous doing something like that is and the impact that it will have on the young leaders coming forward into the military. If you don't define your mission statement, and the impact that it will have on the young leaders coming forward into the military. If you don't define your mission statement, there's absolutely no way that people are going to understand what it is. Now, the core values here at First Form, three or four different locations that I've seen them. People have to know what is expected of them so they can perform those tasks. It's one of the things I see leaders making a mistake on all the time. My people are underperforming.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I'm like, okay, I'll go to one of their people. Hey, can you define for me what your job is? Not really. I'm like, I'll be right back. I need to go talk to your boss because your fucking boss is doing a poor job of holding himself accountable to you. You have to know what your job is before I can expect you to do well. The military is an extension and the action arm of United States foreign policy.
Starting point is 01:20:25 At the end of the day, if you want to reduce it down to everything, it's our ability to conduct and fight war, to protect what we believe in in this country. The duty honor country, it's always going to be a part of it, but we're not going to say those things anymore. This is a little bit of an incomplete article because I bet you duty, honor, country is all over in West Point. It probably is. I haven't been to West Point, but I bet you it's all over the walls there. If they're going to leave that up on the wall,
Starting point is 01:20:55 that would be a very good thing. But they need to reinforce those things. The core values are only as valuable as the people who read them and their understanding of it. And if you start taking away things like duty, honor, and country, and not that the other core values are bad, you're going to shift, you know, you're modifying your inputs, which is going to inform your output, which are the young leaders in the United States Army. The Army is a service branch that fucking fights on the ground
Starting point is 01:21:27 anywhere that they are asked to go. It's very different than the community that I came in in the Navy. My job inside of the Navy, I expected direct combat engagement with our enemy because that was part of my job. Most people who join the Navy, whether they want to join for that or to avoid it, they're not going to encounter that on a ship, right? Not that you can't have naval warfare. It would be tough in the modern era, I think, for that to kick off except for like another first world nation. But if you join the Army, you can expect that your job is going to be a profession of arms. It has to be treated like that at all times.
Starting point is 01:21:57 I look at this as a very – and again, I need to do some more research on this. But I look at this just initially looking at that changing of the core values, becoming a little more vague in the core values. If you fuck with inputs, you're going to get a different output. I would ask them what is the output that they are looking for and is that actually going to serve the best interests of this country going forward? Because changes like this, they take time to – it's like spinning the wheel on an aircraft carrier. Not that they're actually – they're capable of being steered with a wheel, but you could spin it and spin it, spin it, spin it. And then much later, the nose of the ship starts turning. This is kind of the same thing. This will take time for the nose to start turning. But the same thing is true if you try to have to one,
Starting point is 01:22:37 stop that turn. Because the first thing that happens when you start spinning the wheel in the other direction is you actually stop the turn much later, and then it starts coming back. So this could have very, very deep long-term value shifts and potential consequences inside of the military. I mean, in my mind, if you look at any job, what is the real-world expectation of your job? If the Army, the real-world expectation is to conduct this nation's battles wherever they may be, everything has to be reversed engineered from that. It either enhances the soldier's ability on the battlefield or it needs to be stripped off and shit canned or remodeled until you can show me that it helps enhance performance when you are being challenged with the standard that the real world is going to provide for you. Anything outside of that is total bullshit in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:23:24 And we're talking about the leaders here. Like the future leaders that are going to be leading. Correct. Again, though, the future leaders where they would truly get to that leadership position, you start the academy. This is like a 10 to 15 year fuse on this because that's how long it will take them to get into those senior
Starting point is 01:23:39 officer leadership roles. It's not something that will shift overnight. Sure. Yeah. I mean, any what you got on this you know my mind on when i see this and and i i agree with everything that you're saying 100 about culture and how it changes and how you know it's it's like turning around an aircraft carrier. I mean, it takes forever. Right, for sure. It's a real process.
Starting point is 01:24:08 And when I look at this, how I see this, like I have a, the way my mind works is I try to like zoom out and see, like ask myself, why? Why would you do this? Why? Why would you do this why why would you do this and when i think about that and then i see democratic senators talking about putting these military age males that are coming across the border into our military as a way to gain citizenship and then we're talking about removing one of the core values that basically talks about
Starting point is 01:24:46 loyalty to our country that's that's where my mind starts to go is is this something that they're doing to make the military more appealing and more compliant potentially towards taking action against our own citizens if need be that's what scares me that's where my mind goes automatically um that is an interesting thought process because i've heard you know in talks of civil war people saying you know it's great you got an ar-15 because the f-16 is going to smoke you, which from a logistical perspective, everybody listening, write this down. That's fucking true. Or the Predator or Reaper with the Hellfire. Don't shoot up at this guy at drones. I've seen that done before. It doesn't terminate well for the user. It's an interesting thought process because my feeling has always been as long as, from everybody I've known in every branch of the military,
Starting point is 01:25:46 the last thing that they would ever do would be turn firepower on their fellow citizens. It becomes a different value proposition when you talk about replacing those individuals, joining with that different cohort. I haven't spent much time thinking about that, but it's an interesting point that you bring up. I know that, but how many of those good people,
Starting point is 01:26:04 good-hearted servicemen and women have they removed from service, going back to the COVID era, going back to the, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, there were some. I'm sure there's still quite a few great, there's going to be great people still in. It's such a vast minority of our citizens. I think it sits at.05% right now
Starting point is 01:26:19 of the U.S. population is currently serving in the military. It's super, super small. And it always has been. I think 6% was at the peak during somewhere near World War I and World War II. Some of those people were not there voluntarily for clarity. Right. But that's peak service. 6%. We're well underneath 1% right now. So it's always been a minority. But, you know, if it is that small of a number, how much would you have to
Starting point is 01:26:43 on board of people with a different... That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. We have... And again, I haven't thought about it a lot. So it's, how much would you have to on board of people with a different – That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And again, I haven't thought about it a lot, so it's an interesting point that you bring up. Yeah, we have senators talking about it. We say, okay – Oh, they're putting in bills. The path to citizenship, when I joined in 96, there was a path to citizenship for people who did join the military.
Starting point is 01:26:58 From like specifically I know the Philippines. So it's not a totally new concept. Yeah. I think you're talking about. No, they're fast tracking this. Well, it's also in that. And if they are fast tracking it for that reasons, it would be the weaponization of a policy that would, again, not short term, but they could have some really dangerous long term consequences. Yeah, that's I'm I'm.
Starting point is 01:27:19 When I see what these people are doing and I'm of the opinion that between now and November, they are going to try, they just had a vote or a poll. I can't remember if it was a poll or a vote. But not a single Democrat in Congress voted or polled against the idea of not allowing these people to vote in the next election so the congress that exists right now is unanimous on the democratic side thinking that all of these people across the border should have a vote in this year's election that's worrisome do you think they're unanimous behind closed doors that That's what I wonder. Do they actually
Starting point is 01:28:06 fucking believe? I think these people want to hang on to power however they can. I think a lot of them are. And I think they understand they've lost a lot of the minority vote that they have had without question for the last 40 years. You know, black America has woken up to this shit. You know, we
Starting point is 01:28:22 have some of the biggest black voices in the world saying, hey, I'm voting for fucking Trump. Fuck these people. And when I look at what's happening with the vote thing, what would be the next step? Okay, now these people can vote. Oh, by the way, if you want to fast track your citizenship, join the military.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Oh, and by the way, you're going to join the military. And, you know, we got those domestic terrorists over there. It was our old military. And we got to take care of them because they're causing us fucking problems. Those people won't hesitate to do that. So, like, yes, people like you and your friends and the people that you were in the military with, they would never do something like that. And I always thought, like, I honestly, up until COVID, I always felt like our military was a true line that would hold the line between
Starting point is 01:29:07 the government and the people. And I always assumed they would side with the people. But when I watched what happened with COVID and the amount of crazy shit that was happening, I felt like there would be more leadership coming from that area of the military saying the military saying hey we're not this isn't right we're not going to do this uh when they're talking about building fema camps for fucking people who are unvaccinated that scared the fuck out of me dude yeah and uh and so you know i'm not sure i feel that our our military is is on the people's side the way that they used to be because i feel like you know a lot of those people have retired or they have moved on and we have a different value system and and i don't i
Starting point is 01:29:50 don't really know where we stand with that you know how long did it take for our law enforcement you know there was a few sheriff's offices across the country to finally stand up and say hey we're not arresting people for going outside without a mask, bro. Like for months and months and months, they were doing that. And then eventually a couple of sheriffs out in California said, Hey, fuck this. We're not doing that. And then a few more joined in. But I mean, why did it go on that long? You know, why, why were the riots allowed to go on the way that they were allowed to go on? Why, why have these police officers and military not stood up and said hey this is not what the fuck we signed up for we signed up to protect the interest of our our
Starting point is 01:30:30 citizens and we're not doing that and you know i'm not privy to the internal power flow of those organizations and when i talk to the guys you know behind closed doors they usually tell me they're like bro it's the leadership all the guys agree with what you're saying but at the leadership fucking and i'm like well uh there's a whole lot of you and not very many of them like can't you guys kind of get together and that's called a mutiny sir i understand it's the ucmj i i understand that however so it's violating your oath of duty yeah that's right man like there's i don't know man i think this was more or less i'm a hyper vigilant person bro because like dude i grow up i i've grown up in business all right and in business if you're not hyper vigilant you fucking lose and so when i start to see a problem come up on the horizon i fucking crush it right like it'd be a little bitty problem like i just came out of
Starting point is 01:31:19 a meeting right before i saw you today where like i could tell our standard on this one thing that we were doing was starting to slip and i went in there and said hey we're not fucking doing it until it's right and these things are i'm used to like whacking the mole way out in front of the path and so like when i take my business mind and i apply it to what's going on i just see this could be really bad and that's where i that's just naturally how I think. I think bare minimum this is demoralization of our military, which has been a constant theme.
Starting point is 01:31:50 A constant theme from the LGBT shit that's infested it. You know, these they-thems and these high-ranked positions in our military. You mean like showing all those officers cross-dressing? Like in multiple pictures? The pup mask. Did you see the pup mask general in the fucking cosplay pup mask? you mean like showing all those officers cross-dressing like in multiple pictures mask did you see the the pup mask general and the fucking cosplay pup mask thing your guys internet search history might be a touch different than mine i did not see that hold on i'll show you a picture dude i'm not doubting it you know the one thing Andy? I don't know if by design the U.S. military was never supposed to stand between the government and the people.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Pasticomitatus exists for exactly that reason because the military cannot be used in a policing capacity. By doctrine, they're more of like a weapons out external away from the shore. You know what I mean? You didn't see that? That's not real. No, that's fucking real. The fuck that is real. No,'t see that? That's not real. No, that's fucking real. The fuck that is real. No, that is real.
Starting point is 01:32:47 That is fucking real. That is real. And there's like more of them too. No, that's absolutely real. As an official photo, his military photo. It got put out along with these here. This is about, what, 18 months ago, DJ? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Here's what I can say about the military. You're talking about devaluing the military. For the last 10 years, every branch of the military has fallen short of their recruiting goals except for the Marines and Space Force. Yeah. There's a reason for it. And I think it would be hard to say this is the reason. I think it's easier to say things like this. Why is that shit
Starting point is 01:33:25 blacked out notice how that's a white guy I was a big big circles for you I mean if I was gonna do that I would use the biggest circle that I could find just to lie to people like why is it on rectangle yeah why is it down to your knees like that's just where it is, so I have to use that circle. There is nothing good, in my opinion, that can come from promoting that type of stuff in the military. Because, again, I look at the job that I held in the military, we needed to locate somebody who was likely at a place where they felt the safest and arrive at their doorstep in their country, in their village, in their house at a time that is the least opportune for them. Everything that I do needs to be pointing towards that from a
Starting point is 01:34:16 training, equipping, manpower, logistics. That's my job. Everything that I do needs to make me better at that job. Highlighting people in pup masks, especially if they're doing that from a professional perspective or getting behind that as a military writ large. There's no dots in my mind that connect one of those things to the other. Yeah. But it can certainly detract because what if somebody who wanted to go down the path that i wanted to go down like i knew i wanted to be a seal since i was 11 years old and i didn't have the internet i had my father talking about his limited experiences well i had that which trust me by that time we were doing vhs and i think i ran the wheels out on that
Starting point is 01:34:59 like three times so you know of course back to blockbuster which you probably don't even understand i'm not blockbuster i still got some coins that's what i'm talking about bro they don't but have you ever been in one they don't have the best things in life fucking struggle of not seeing behind the picture of the movie you want i'm pretty sure the movie there so you have to go to the turn-in bin to see right because that's where the good shit is dude you're like looking through the slot you're like hey man can you go through there yeah and then if you see one in there you gotta grab the lady and say hey can you give me that navy seals out of there and they're like, hey, man, can you go through there? Yeah, exactly. And then if you see one in there, you've got to grab the lady and say, hey, can you give me that Navy SEALs out of there? And they're like, fuck again?
Starting point is 01:35:27 So I did have that. And I did have my dad. I didn't know or meet a single SEAL before I joined because I didn't know a SEAL. And I lived in Santa Cruz, California. Yeah. So now, though, just using it through the lens of my own kids, none of them have expressed the desire to go into the military, which I'm fine with. And I also would be fine with if they wanted to make that choice. But let's say my oldest son was 11 and he had a phone and that's what's being
Starting point is 01:35:53 portrayed to him as what the military is, what they stand for, what they do. I would not, you know, as a parent, if I was the sole point arguing against what he is seeing online like that, it makes sense to me that the numbers are trending the way that they are. That is not beneficial, in my opinion, to recruitment or the national defense of our country. Let me ask you this because I know it's an oxymoron of military intelligence, right? But I know there's a lot of smart leadership. So how could you be making these decisions willfully, right? Unless, again, there's some intentionality to it.
Starting point is 01:36:29 I would want to know where the decision was made. Just because you're a high-ranking officer in the military, admiral or general, there are policy decisions that can be made above your head. Again, it is your job to implement the foreign policy of the United States, not create the foreign policy of the United States. it trickles downhill you know so they have things that they can control and then they have things that they are dictated to do so what were you now now you were saying before we got into the pup mask thing that which is all i want to talk about now and i actually would like one i just ordered ordered it. So you were saying guns out.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Yeah. The role of the military is basically, it's a national defense tool. It was never designed to be used internally to separate the people from the government or vice versa. Just from a doctrinal level. So what happens in a situation where, let's say, a whole bunch of people that are tired of what's going on decide that they want to do something about it? State and federal. It would probably be a state and federal response, which again, you're going to run into the same problems because we're talking about neighbors. Most law enforcement people live in the communities that they serve. So the civil war
Starting point is 01:37:40 where the state and federal resources that are designed to respond and i don't i'm not an expert on the national guard i don't know their limitations and what they are authorized to do and not do i know they're often used in uh protests and things it's remained at the state level most of the time that's what i'm saying so it would be it would be more of a state and federal response and that is you know that's the people in your neighborhood potentially taking arms up against the people in your neighborhood because you're being directed to do so from higher. I don't know what that would look like, man. I don't want to see it either.
Starting point is 01:38:10 No, I don't either. Civil War. It's like, shut the fuck up. You don't even know what you're asking. Brother, I don't either at all. But the problem that I see is, you know, we've got Joe Biden on record taking money from China. We have our oil reserves being drained to the lowest strategic level ever ever we have you know a shit ton of our military assets left in afghanistan
Starting point is 01:38:33 we have multiple conflicts going on at the same time potentially with now the middle east we have this invasion happening at the border we have have all of this crazy shit. We have all of this nonsense, far progressive, ridiculous demoralization happening in our school systems and in culture. And it all leads back to China. And China has given this man a lot of money. And the media is trying to cover that fact. It's on fucking Hunter Biden's laptop. There's all kinds of evidence.
Starting point is 01:39:04 There's Tony Bob of evidence. There's Tony Bobulinski and all these other dudes coming out saying, yeah, they did do that. And so at what point do we look and we say, hey, this is being intentionally done. The destruction of this country or the third worldization of this country is being intentionally done by these people. And at what point in time do the people who have taken an oath to protect the country say hey this is fucking wrong and we can't stand by and allow it to happen and that's that's where like you know where is that line i guess you know what i'm saying i do not know yeah i do not know yeah you know guys jumping
Starting point is 01:39:43 on this conversation let us know down in the comments guys what you guys think with that being said let's keep this cruise moving headline number three god look at that outfit you like what i'm saying dude wins or not on the right hand side oh god i need one actually yeah i'm gonna get you one yeah we're gonna roll around recruit people for the revolution sweet i'll wear a world war ii aviator helmet with goggles with that and probably like an ascot. Yeah. Everybody will take us seriously. They probably would, actually.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Headline number three reads, Georgia Judge Scott McAfee dismisses three charges against Donald Trump. This is just a little update. Been watching stuff going down in Georgia. It appears that there may be some consequences coming out for Fannie Willis and her sexual escapades with her lover. But, yeah, so a couple of cases are starting to get dismissed. A couple of charges are getting dismissed now. That stuff's starting to roll down. Let's just skate this a little bit.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee on Wednesday dismissed three charges against former President Donald Trump in the election interference case. In total, dismissed charges include six counts in the indictment, including three against Trump. Prosecutors can refile the quashed charges McAfee wrote in his order. Trump is still charged with more than half a dozen counts. Trump was originally charged with 13 total. So Trump faces a maximum of 76 and a half years in state prison if convicted on each of the charges and consecutively enforced. The Associated Press reported the ruling is a blow for Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis, whose case has already been on shaky ground with an effort to have her removed from the prosecution over her romantic relationship with a colleague.
Starting point is 01:41:28 It's the first time charges in any of Trump's four criminal cases have been dismissed, with the judge saying prosecutors failed to provide enough detail about the alleged crime. The order comes ahead of McAfee's pending ruling on whether Fulton County prosecutor Fannie Willis will be removed from the Trump case. McAfee pledged on the radio last week the ruling would come this week. At the end of the disqualification hearings, McAfee told the court he would deliberate for two weeks. The judge previously said Willis could be removed from the case, which would hand a large victory to Trump. And so, yeah, so three of those case charges were removed because she didn't even specify what felony he violated or allegedly violated or committed. And of course, we always got the race card being played.
Starting point is 01:42:17 This headline reads, race is an ever present source of tension in Trump Georgia case. It's kind of bullshit. Nobody's buying that shit. Everybody's over it, bro. There was a video. I tried to pull it up uh it's like this black couple right because georgia's uh in this specific area it's about about 50 50 almost right um but there was this uh this clip that's been going around viral it's like these uh it's two black young couple and they're asking them like you know okay well and it's a bt interview right and they're asking the they're asking them okay well who'd you vote for in 2008 right the guy goes down uh obama obama cool 2012
Starting point is 01:42:50 obama obama 2016 he says trump and his girlfriend says uh biden or hillary clinton all right 2020 trump uh biden 2024 trump she's like i'm going to go with trump like this whole racial narrative like it's over well i think i think a lot of black people you know i'm going to go ahead and speak for all the black yeah absolutely you know because i have such experience as a member of the yeah i'm an honorary member of the ncaa that's right i'm an honorary member of the NCAA that's correct so dude would we look man I think what's happening what I why I can observe is that a lot of black people in the United States are really fucking tired of being lumped in with this crazy race shit they cuz dude real talk most black people are just, just like everybody else.
Starting point is 01:43:45 They're normal motherfuckers. They want to fucking make money. They want to go out and live their lives. They don't want to be fucked with. They don't want crime. They don't want high taxes. They want to be treated normal, you know? And I feel like there's a, you know, this, this racial tension.
Starting point is 01:44:01 A lot of, of people are feeling it that are and they're like bro this isn't how we feel this is not what we think and they're getting they're finally getting vocal about it and you know what it's like bro you spoke out about this for a number of years and when you first started speaking out about it you were attacked very hard from the black community right oh bro i got my ass beat yeah really oh bro uncle bro. Uncle Tom, you know. Coon fucking. I mean, bro, it was bad. Yeah, and so that's kept a lot of black people from saying what they really think. But I think finally they've caught enough. They're tired of getting lumped in with it so much that they're like, no, fuck this, dude.
Starting point is 01:44:38 We're not like this. And I think that's a beautiful thing. And that's what I see happening. She's going to go to jail. She She's she's going to go to jail. She should. She is going to go to. Have you been following this case down there a little bit? You know, I know that the.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Legal system, or I should say what's going on with Trump in the legal system, it is very easy to develop an emotional reaction about it. And I try to view this, I remind myself, if it was me under this level of scrutiny, or if I was charged with something like this, what would I want to have happen? I would want for people to not make up their mind until the system actually played itself out. So that is what I try to tell myself, because I do see this particular,
Starting point is 01:45:24 and this kind of speaks to the weaponization of law like you were talking about. I do see that there is, it seems to me that there is an essence of theater with this. There's an essence of distraction with this. And so I don't know what's true and what isn't. And I think the safest thing for myself and for probably almost everybody is to sit back, sit down, take a breath don't say shit and let's let the system actually play itself out so i haven't been following it incredibly close because i quite frankly cannot determine who the fuck is telling the truth no
Starting point is 01:45:56 shit and if i can't do that i'm actually not really interested in being deeply attached to it because I am then making what I think to be a, an objective, logical decision off of potentially false information. I think it's super dangerous to do that. And I also, I constantly go back to what if this was me, I would hope that people would let the system play itself out before dragging me through the street corner. Well, let's say if it was you and let's say, for example. Do I get to be president first? Okay, yeah, for sure. Let's just say it's you. You're president.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Drive a sweet book deal. All right. A library. Hold on. I want a staff job. Here's your campaign picture. Yeah, there you go. Actually, every time that picture,
Starting point is 01:46:35 I was just on the PBD podcast and so many people in the comments were like, what is that, a fucking congressional poster? I know. They put like a red background behind it. I'm like, oh shit. People are like, are you running for office? I'm like, no, I swear to God, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Dude, that does look like a political photo. Yeah, you take out the trees in the background and you make it like just a red or a blue background. We'll get you a seal. Bro, it'll be awesome. A little trident lapel in there. I'll be your, I'll come out. I'll do what KJP does.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Secretary of Treasury. No, no, no, bro. I'm going to come out. I want to be the press secretary does. Secretary of Treasury. No, no, no, bro. I'm going to come out. I want to be the press secretary. Does anybody want that job? Holy fuck. I want it. I want to be your-
Starting point is 01:47:10 I'll fucking destroy those people every single day. I want to be your- I would be the greatest press secretary ever. They would actually not know how to deal with that. That could be amazing. For the short tenure that I think you would hold the job. I want to oversee your HUD housing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:23 And food stamps and shit. Yeah. I'm cutting all of it. So basically you're going to eliminate your own job? Yeah. Huh? No, my job. I'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:47:31 We'll still need it. We just need enough of it to employ you. Right. Okay, I got it. So what were you going to say if it was me? Yeah, so if it's you, and the question becomes, okay, we don't know who's telling the truth, but if they're weaponizing the justice system and we can't trust the justice system, then if we let it play out, there's a good chance of injustice happening.
Starting point is 01:47:55 You know, so like that's where my, because it seems very obvious to me that, you know, when we look at, let's say, let's take St. Louis here, right? St. Louis had a George Soros funded prosecutor here who would not prosecute violent crime. So in the black communities in St. Louis, and St. Louis is always one or two in the murder capital of the United States. These people were doing these violent crimes and literally spending an hour in jail and being released. And if you talk to the police officers here, it demoralizes them. They're like, dude, it doesn't matter if we arrest them because they get out in an hour. All right. So when we talk about the level of corruption that's happening in that situation, and then
Starting point is 01:48:36 we amplify that to, let's say, a case against an unpopular with the minority president like donald trump how how can we at this point in time how can we trust that the justice system is still just and that's where my concern because i agree with, like in most cases in the history of the United States of America that we both have grown up in. I would 1000 percent agree with that. I'm like, hey, just let him let the court do their jobs. million dollars whatever ends up being to this woman in new york who has already very clearly said that he didn't actually do the things that she's the the violent rape that the media is making it out to be these these things we start to see a level of corruption you know like gregorian or whatever that guy's name is that judge he was laughing when he handed down that fine to Trump, which is an unprecedented fine that's never been done in
Starting point is 01:49:50 the history of fucking court. So that's where my concern comes in. It's like, okay, do we have it? Yeah. Has the tree been the tree of justice been poisoned to the point of that? We can't let things play out because they're just going to throw people that they don't like in jail or find them or ruin them financially and we see case after case of this you know a lot of people not a lot of people but there's people out here who have swallowed this idea that donald trump has committed you know whatever they got 91 felonies or whatever right but they don't stop and ask okay um are those real cases it because in their mind they're thinking like well of course yes it's a number they've heard well no no like
Starting point is 01:50:32 dude you got to remember like just like these people who who were forced into getting the vaccine right and they were they were mad at the people who were trying to stop it they weren't mad at the people forcing them to get the vaccine they were mad at the people who were trying to stop it. They weren't mad at the people forcing them to get the vaccine. They were mad at the people who were trying to get them to not get it. And now we have a situation where all kinds of people are having side effects. There's all kinds of situations happening. And those people are realizing that they're the victims of a play. And when we look at the situation with Trump and we see what's happening with all of these, you know, charges and things, their assumption, just like during COVID is there's no way the
Starting point is 01:51:15 media would lie about all this shit. There's no way Dr. Fauci would lie about this thing. There's no way every single media outlet is lying to us and it turns out guess what they were and so now we have a situation where the same people are falling for the same thing when it comes to the court system there's no way they would charge somebody with 91 felonies if it's not true right that's a reasonable i think that's reasonable to think and when we when we go back over the course of history you know if you would before covid i would have said all right they charged this dude with 91 felonies he probably did some shit right there's smoke there might be yeah like that's that's what i would say but now after witnessing all of this i'm like well is there? You know what I mean? Is this real stuff? Like, what, you know?
Starting point is 01:52:07 So, like, it's so hard to tell now. It's dangerous, too, because you're talking about people losing faith in the foundational premises, premises, premises. That's what I'm saying, dude. Whatever the word may be, of the country. But, bro, that's what the goal of communism is. It's about demoralization and destabilization of the country so if we don't believe that our our media is telling the truth and we don't believe that our borders are secure and we don't believe that our court system is doing the right job then what do we actually have to believe in yeah you know and that's part of the globalization process
Starting point is 01:52:41 globalization is about the removal of what is called nationalism, but we call it here in America being a patriotic American. They're removing this and they're importing all these people that do not belong in our culture, who don't have any affinity or loyalty or regard for our culture here in America.
Starting point is 01:53:04 And they're mixing that all in at the same time, creating these doubts and these cracks and these questions about our fundamental basis of what this country really is. And eventually it's going to get to a point if it continues where, you know, we're going to look at it and we're going to say, this doesn't mean anything anymore. And that's the scary part about it.
Starting point is 01:53:22 And so, you know, and, and so like for a long time, I've also, and this kind of sort of answers my question about why nobody stepped in to fix this, because it does seem like Trump is allowing it to play out. And I think the reason that he's allowing it to play out, I think he knows a lot of stuff. Obviously he knows a lot of shit. We don't know. I mean, he's privy to a lot of information. This guy's not a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:53:49 He's, he's a very successful man. They make him out to be an idiot. He's not a fucking idiot. He's set. He's 80 years old, bro. He's been a very successful entrepreneur. You take the shit that, that somebody like me has learned in 25 years of being an entrepreneur and multiply that by double, this guy is pretty fucking good at what he does. He's a chess guy, right? And when I take that into consideration and I watch this play out, it almost appears to me like he's allowing it to play out intentionally for the preservation of the structures that we're talking about. So people could almost see, going down your line of thought, so people could see how far
Starting point is 01:54:26 Australia's system has gone. And then also, it could be corrected and preserved after that. You know what I mean? So it doesn't burn all the way to the ground. Because the minute the military steps in or the minute something happens, all of that shit that's existed
Starting point is 01:54:41 for 247 or 8 years is over. Yeah, we're going to have to get the pen and paper out again. Right. So it's just a very interesting time. That's for sure. What a time to be alive. Yeah. Guys, jump in on this conversation.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Down in the comments, let us know what you guys think. With that being said, man, let's get to our final segment of the show. As always, we like to do this little bit called Thumbs Up or Dumb as Fuck. This is where we bring a headline up and we give our opinion. Is it a thumbs up or is this dumb as fuck? So for this episode's thumbs up or dumb as fuck headline, headline reads, New Jersey father arrested for barging into classroom to confront teen. Apologize to my daughter.
Starting point is 01:55:22 That's the headline. Got some man action here. Let's dive into this. An overprotective New Jersey father has been arrested after he was caught on camera walking into a high school classroom to yell at a teenage boy and grab another student by the arm. Aaron Thomas, 38, was filmed entering the classroom at Paulsboro High School in Gloucestershire. What is that? What the fuckcester. What is that? What the fuck is that? What is that?
Starting point is 01:55:49 Gloucester County. Where the fuck is it? Where's the H? Gloucester? You should put an H in there. I think it's just Gloucester. Gloucester. Gloucester?
Starting point is 01:55:56 Yeah. Maybe the person wrote it left the H out, you know? Gloucester County on Monday. Glaucoma County. Yeah, Glaucoma. That's what it is. In Glycoma County on Monday and demanding that a teenage boy apologize to his daughter. Quote, you got a problem with my daughter, he asked the teenager in the video posted to Instagram.
Starting point is 01:56:15 Apologize to my daughter, he demands. The frightened child replies that he, quote, didn't do nothing to her. But Thomas apparently did not accept that as an answer. And his voice grew louder and more adamant. Qu heard what the fuck i said apologize to my daughter now here's the clip i didn't do nothing to it. You heard what the fuck I said. Apologize to my daughter.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Now. You can't be doing this here, bro. I'm not going to go down the street with you. No. Apologize to my daughter. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her.
Starting point is 01:57:18 I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. I didn't do nothing to her. Yeah, so Thomas was later arrested and charged with simple assault, making terroristic threats, trespassing and disorderly conduct. He was released Tuesday until a trial could be held on the charges. But a judge ordered that he must have no contact with the students involved or their families and must maintain monthly contact with the court officials,
Starting point is 01:57:49 according to New Jersey Advanced Media. Meanwhile, the 15-year-old boy who was confronted by Thomas was back in class Wednesday but was forced to leave after receiving anonymous threats on his cell phone, his parents told New Jersey Advanced Media. They condemned school officials for... Anonymous. Yeah, anonymous.
Starting point is 01:58:07 They condemned school officials for failing to swiftly respond as their son was being berated by the angry father. And they are considering pulling the boy out of the public school district. But the son is, quote, totally distraught at the idea. The parents also dismissed the notion that Thomas was simply trying to defend his daughter. Guys, Andy, what do we got? Andy and Andy, what do we got on this? I mean, that's a no-win situation for that guy.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Like, I can totally empathize with being a father of a young daughter, and you don't want the world to interact with her in any way that would harm her. But there is actually nothing good that could have come out of this. To go into a public school. It went really bad. Surrounded by minors who have cell phones that had obviously made it onto social media.
Starting point is 01:58:53 The kid is obviously saying, I didn't do anything. And he's unwilling to do what you're telling him to do. What's your next step? He's pulling your collar. What's the escalation beyond that? You're gonna start beating the shit out of a 15 year old? Like absolutely. Apparently anonymous threats are going to continue. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:08 I mean, if you actually want to have something done in this situation, you go to the school administration as a parent, and you deal with it through the school administration. If you want to take it another level that I would not necessarily— Get a van and some duct tape. Wait. I was going to go another way. A big mast. When I was growing up, I've watched many a father beat the shit out of another father for something that their children had done.
Starting point is 01:59:34 That's right. And I'm not advocating for that. I'm just saying that's a more non-traditional approach. If you don't want to go the school method, go talk to their parents. But what you should never do as a fucking grown adult is go confront a minor and think that it's going to go in your favor. Yeah. Because whatever, I mean, let's assume that it was something verbal said and not like a horrendous sexual assault or assault of some kind. If it was something that that person said, there is no way that this ends other than something probably really bad happening to the
Starting point is 02:00:06 parent and nothing happening to that kid so if that's what you're going for bon voyage if you actually want to have an impact on the situation i would take a different tact i mean you know i've seen this happen growing up a number of times. Like, the world's so different now. I can remember things like this happening when I was growing up. Like, you know. I've seen it happen. Yeah, dude. Like, I've seen.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Oh, yeah, I've seen it. I've seen parents show up at bus stops and shit and, like, choke kids. I've seen it. You know, like. Me and St. Louis, too. Yeah, it's. St. California. Yeah, dude. And I know that sounds crazy, but we live in a different time. Yeah. kids i've seen it you know like we in st louis too yeah it's in california yeah dude and i know that sounds crazy but we live in a different time yeah and when we were growing up there was a place
Starting point is 02:00:53 for i don't i don't know how to describe at. Minor violence? Like fucking fist fighting and slapping people and shit. There was just shit that happened that doesn't happen anymore that kind of kept society in line. And I agree with you. This guy... It's all downside. Yes. This guy grabs that kid, he's in fucking jail, right?
Starting point is 02:01:20 I think this guy, from the way that he was acting, and he seemed pretty serious about it and i and i and i doubt that he's probably going to let it go uh so if i was this kid this kid's probably going to be looking over his shoulder for a while um but my old i say all that to say this uh he's not going to win that way a hundred percent it's a bad move and there's there's there's ways to handle things and then there's ways to not handle things and that's a way to not handle things and um but i'll say this too uh you know when people solved their differences with a a simple fist fight, the world was a better place.
Starting point is 02:02:09 And I'm not saying that a grown man should beat up a 15-year-old kid. I'm saying in general. Like, swings first. Listen, dude, I don't know, man. I think you're still fucked even then. Yeah, yeah. The New Jersey's a... I don't think of a 15-year-old...
Starting point is 02:02:20 No, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like, in general, separate from the story. You know the the real problem here is that there's no repercussions for any actions in society people can say whatever they want to anybody they can do whatever they want to anybody and as long as they don't touch them it's okay and bro that's that's a hard way to have a functioning society so now we have a bunch of little shitheads running around the country who think they're immune from any sort of repercussions at all. And then when the repercussions happen, they fucking play victim.
Starting point is 02:02:54 And it's like, bro, that's not how it works. If you step on someone's toes, you should expect them to stomp on yours. That's sort of the order amongst men that has existed for thousands of years. And that's what's created a civil society i know i'm not gonna go fuck with andy because if i fuck with andy he's gonna fucking fuck with me back i don't want that so guess what how can we solve this without that you know what i mean and it creates a better it creates a better society when there is a little bit of fear for physical repercussions amongst men. And that's, and I also think it creates less violence because now when people go to violence,
Starting point is 02:03:33 they don't go to fistfights. They go to shooting people and stabbing people and doing extreme level shit because that's where the situation escalates to because there's not a simple intervention such as a fist fight on the curb. And I know people, when they hear that, that's shocking to hear for a lot of younger people. But the reality is I've grown up in both situations and there was a lot more respect amongst men, even young men and older men, when there was a little bit of fear. You watched your P's and Q's. That's right. Dude, listen, man. I didn't want to have someone's dad up my ass when i was in fucking
Starting point is 02:04:08 high school bro no like and now and you thought about those things you're like fuck all right i'm at this guy's house his kids being a fucking fuck you know can should i beat this kid's ass well probably not because if i do his dad's gonna come downstairs and kick my ass. You know, like, so we, we, there was a civility that was maintained, uh, through respect and the fear of some sort of physical repercussion that doesn't exist anymore. And so we have this social media world where everybody says whatever the fuck they want, they get online, they talk all this mad shit that they would never, ever, ever say if they were standing right in front of the person. And then there's no repercussions of that, so it escalates and it escalates and it escalates and it escalates.
Starting point is 02:04:50 And eventually, dude, people get sick of it and they snap and they're like, fuck it, I'm going to kill this motherfucker. And they do. And we see it every day. So that's my take. And I doubt we'll ever go back to those times, but it was better. That's my take. I'm with it. I think he fucked up here, bro. And I think this is not too. It was better. Yeah. That's my take. I'm with it.
Starting point is 02:05:05 I think he fucked up here, bro. And I think, like, this is not the way to handle it. Yeah. I would have went to the father. The kid's father. I'm going to... I'm beating your ass.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Well... 100%. I'll take those consequences. Yeah. You know, I'm not going to go fuck with the kid, but... Yeah. I'm going to make sure
Starting point is 02:05:20 I beat his ass in front of the kid. I'm also doing that. Well, the kid would probably film that. You're next. I'm your daddy kid. I'm also doing that. Well, the kid would probably film that. You're next. I'm your daddy now. I'm your daddy now. All right, so final thoughts.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Thumbs up or dumb as fuck? What are we giving this? I'm going dumb as fuck. Yeah, I think he fucked up, man. All right. I can understand his frustration. And I bet a lot of his... I like him.
Starting point is 02:05:41 I mean, I get what he's trying to do. I bet if we sat down with that man right here, I bet his frustration would be exactly what I said. Dude, these people say and do all this adult shit, and they talk all this adult shit, and they say all this shit, and they forget that there's people in the real world that'll fuck you up, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I say free my boy Aaron, though. I say free him.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Yeah. No jail for this guy. Yeah. No. Terroristic threats. Yeah. Come on. Come on. Yeah. Come on. All right. Well, no. Terroristic threats. Yeah, come on. Come on.
Starting point is 02:06:05 Yeah. Come on. All right. Well, cool. Well, guys, Andy, Andy, that's all I got. Well, Andy, I appreciate you coming on, man. Yeah, man. That was wild.
Starting point is 02:06:13 We covered some ground. Yeah, yeah. That was awesome. That was awesome. Guys, I forgot to mention at the beginning of the show, I think, you know, Andy's got a really awesome podcast called Clear Hot. So if you haven't listened to his show, I think you guys will really enjoy it uh you'll enjoy his takes on what's going on and things he talks about um anything else you got going on next thing coming up personally is uh jumping into the
Starting point is 02:06:35 80th anniversary of normandy with the black rifle crew actually that you were talking about so that's kind of near term on the radar, man. And still just trying to figure out business every day as I go along, you know? Yep. Well, brother, we really appreciate you coming on. It's long overdue and I'm excited for people to hear this show. And if there's anything that, you know, we can ever do for you, just let me know, man. Awesome. I really appreciate it, guys.
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