REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 670. Q&AF: Aligning Purpose With Goals, Advancing Your Career & Different Types Of Winners
Episode Date: March 18, 2024In today's episode, Andy answers your questions on how to come up with long term goals that align with your purpose, the best way to be prepared for a meeting with an executive when you're trying to a...dvance your career, and how to handle other people's lack of commitment to excellence when you're working towards your goals.
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all right hey what's up dude what's going on my man oh yeah what's up with you oh you know
nothing much another uh another just beautiful here. Yeah. Making people better.
Yeah.
Was there anything new going on with you?
Nope.
Yeah?
Are you ready for the summer?
I think so.
For some sun and some heat?
Yeah.
Listen, here in the Midwest, dude, we get the gray.
The gray is what bothers me. It's not the cold.
It's not the weather. It's the gray is what bothers me it's not months of it yeah it's not the cold it's not the weather
it's the gray and uh it's nice that we're moving into the springtime months you know there's been
a couple days where i've been able to get the uh the lincoln out and kind of cruise with the top
down and get some sun on my face and that feels good i'm ready for the shirtless uh cardio session
yeah me too bro that's i love that that my favorite part, especially when you come with me. Yeah, right.
Yeah.
So, you know, I'm kind of tired of looking like powder over here.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
I got to get my tan going.
You got a little light.
Yeah.
You got a little light.
I know, bro.
I can feel it.
I feel see-through.
So.
I mean, it could be worse.
It could be like my dot.
Yeah, I think it's affecting my swag.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was definitely affecting the credit score. Let's get into it, man. I got some good ones be worse. It could be like Medot. I think it's affecting my swag. Is that what it is? Yeah. It was definitely affecting the credit score.
Let's get into it, man.
I got some good ones for you.
All right.
Let's dive into this.
Guys, Andy, question number one.
Andy, I have recently made the decision to switch my mindset from trying 75 hard to doing 75 hard.
This decision and change of mindset has made me, has made an unbelievable
impact on my life in a very short amount of time. I am a 25-year-old business owner in my fourth
year of business and recently discovered through this change in mindset that I have been operating
the last three years without a clear understanding of my purpose. Thanks to you and 75 Hard, I was
able to search my soul and find this purpose.
I finally find myself operating towards something bigger than monetary gain,
but I'm having trouble setting a long-term goal that aligns with my purpose.
My question is how do I come up with long-term goals that align with purpose?
How do you do that?
Well, look, it's impossible to be driven it's
impossible to be motivated and feel good about what you're doing if you don't
have a purpose you know we have all these people talking about how burned
out they are all the time right and really it's not burnout it's the fact
that they don't really understand why they are doing what it is that they do. And if I were
to tell you, Hey, uh, come over here and just start hammering nails in the wall and just do
that until I tell you to stop after an hour, you're going to be like, this is fucking terrible.
But if I were to tell you, Hey, uh, we're going to put all these nails in the wall because it's
going to be part of this bigger project that we're working on, you would start to feel a purpose around why you're doing what you do.
And so having people clearly define their purpose is a big deal when it comes to feeling good about
the work that you're doing and moving forward with speed with momentum with vigor with enthusiasm
which is what creates the best work so it's super important that people you
know figure out what the fuck that is because if you don't most people don't
they live their whole life in this really miserable existence where they
don't feel good about what they do they don't really understand why they're
doing it it feels torturous because there's no real outcome to why they're doing what they
do and most people never just take a minute to stop and say this is why I'm
doing this and so I would highly encourage that for anybody at any age at
any point in time in their life if they want to feel enthusiastic and happy
about what the work that they do and also if they want to produce the best
work now how do you figure out what your long-term goals are?
You know, most people think about their long-term outcome and then they build their purpose around that.
You know what I'm saying?
So it sounds like this guy's doing it a little backwards.
Okay.
But everybody I know that builds big stuff and does great things and is happy in their life and fulfilled and excited, they have a long-term outcome in their mind.
And then they break it down into small steps in order to get to that long-term outcome.
So you have this big vision of what it is you're trying to create.
You break it down into step by step by step by step, working it backwards
from years in the future to where you are now. And then you start executing that those steps.
This is pretty much second nature to anybody who's doing anything or has done anything. This
is how it works. And so I'm not real sure what he's asking when he's saying, I found my purpose.
Now I got to figure out my outcome because typically it's the other way around.
So what I would do is I would spend some time sitting down thinking about where it is you
want to be, what kind of life you want to live, what do you want your life to look like?
Get very detailed about it.
Paint the picture in your mind over and over and over again through visualization every
single day and then make practical action steps that will create that in
the future over the course of the next 5, 10, 15 years that you're going to break down into basically
steps. And then you're going to take those steps and you're going to break them down into,
you know, what are my daily tasks that I need to do to move towards this goal? And that's where a
tool like the PowerList really comes into play. If you're unfamiliar with the PowerList, you go to audio episode number 16, and it will explain the PowerList system.
It's a free system.
You don't have to buy anything.
There is a journal of it on my website, but it's not required.
You can use a notebook.
And it just explains how we do exactly what this person is asking.
So we break it down into critical tasks that we execute every single day that compound over time
and end up creating the outcome
that we're looking for.
But if you don't know where you're going,
it won't work.
So you have to decide where it is
you're trying to go from the beginning
before you really start to break it down
into a plan to get there.
I mean, like, dude,
if you don't know where you're going
and you're going to get in your car
and you think you're just going to find your way there,
how would that happen? It wouldn it would be impossible so we have to
decide where we're going what's it going to look like and i would encourage you to develop that
vision without limitation if you could be anything if you could build anything whatever it would
whatever your mind could come up with.
Think of that in the biggest, coolest, best, most favorable outcome terms.
Because what happens usually when people think about what it is they're trying to create,
they're in a place in the beginning where they don't have that much confidence and they
don't have that much belief in themselves because they've never really built anything. And then
when they set out to try and build the vision of what they want to build, they end up saying,
oh, I'd really like to do this thing. Right. But like, I don't think I could do that. That's not,
that's not really within my capability. Right. And so they shrink the vision down to this like small vision and they're failing to understand how long life is and how much progress you can make in a relatively short amount of time, five, 10 years.
And so, you know, and it's impossible to know that when you're 24 years old or 25, right? You don't really understand how quick things can happen because
on a daily level, a weekly level, a monthly level, progress feels slow. But if you're dedicated day
in and day out and you're executing critical tasks day in and day out, the amount of time in years
is relatively fast. So, you know, people underestimate the amount of work that they can do in like five years.
Right. And they overestimate the amount of work they can do in six months, which puts them in this like like unfavorable mindset, which is just not accurate with how things really work.
So I would encourage people to sit down, create the ideal outcome.
What would that look like? What would it look like if all of your dreams came true? What would
it look like if you took that company that you're working on or that position that you're working in
or that company you're working for? What would it look like if it was like ideal? Like if you
could walk in there and say, holy shit, this is the coolest thing ever. What's that vision and work from there. Because if you go after that vision, the chances are the outcome's going to be
very favorable to what you're trying to do. Um, because likely you're going to fall a little bit
short. That's just the way goals are. Most people don't ever actually achieve their big goals. They
just get pretty close, pretty close is still fucking amazing right no so uh
that's my take on that you know get clear on your purpose get clear on what you're trying to do on
the outcome break it down into small actual actionable steps um on a daily basis and execute
and eventually that'll come to fruition i love this let me let me ask you this because i feel
like you know especially for younger people man like just in general purpose i feel like it's
either one or two things like it's people either like overdrive it right or they severely under uh diminishes like
diminishes value right and i've heard you mention before uh you know that that purpose evolves
right and so can we just judge like touch on that a little bit especially for somebody that's 25
years old it's like you know the purpose that you may have now, maybe your real purpose right now,
bro, in 10 years it might change.
Yeah.
Well, typically when people first get started, their purposes are more selfish.
And that's not a bad thing.
That's okay.
Right?
You're having trouble paying your rent.
You live in a place you don't want to live.
You're driving a car you don't want to drive.
You don't have the lifestyle that you want to have.
And so typically most people will start with that level of purpose. I want to take. You don't have the lifestyle that you want to have. And so typically most people
will start with that level of purpose. I want to take care of myself. I want to get myself to this
place and they will focus on that. That's okay. All right. Because what happens is once you start
to take care of those things, you start to realize that the purpose is bigger than yourself. And you
start to understand that this is actually not about me now. This is about other people around me.
And so the purpose generally shifts from in the beginning of the success journey, whether you're an entrepreneur or an entrepreneur or whatever it is you're trying to do.
There's selfish reasons.
I want to live a better life.
I want my life to look like this.
I want to do these things.
And then as you achieve those things, you start, you go
through this like process where, you know, you start to realize, well, I got all these things
now, now what? And people will typically go one of two directions at that point in time. They will
either say, I have everything and I'm bored and I'm miserable and I'm depressed because I did all
the stuff I wanted to do. And then they do not reevaluate the next step,
which causes them to go backwards
and it causes them to lose the progress they have made,
become miserable, become anxious, become depressed,
and sometimes just quit, all right?
This is why we see so many people
who get a little bit of success
and then they fall off and they disappear.
Or they pick another path
and that other path is they evolve their purpose.
They say, okay, I've got my bills paid.
I'm able to eat okay.
What about all the people around me?
What about this?
What about that?
And they start asking bigger questions, and those bigger questions lead to a bigger purpose
that typically is outside of self, all right?
It becomes selfless.
And this is why I tell people you have to be selfish to become selfless. All right. You, you can't just say I'm the selfless guy from the
beginning and you can't even feed your own self. You can't take care of your own rent. You can't
take care of your own family. That's not realistic. But once you get that taken care of and you're
comfortable, it's time to reevaluate what it is you're trying to do, what your purpose
is. And typically the biggest success, success stories in the world, they evolve from, you know,
at the very beginning, you know, I'm taking care of me. And then they go and say, okay, well,
I need a bigger purpose. I need a bigger mission. I need a bigger project to work on.
And then that project becomes so big that their purpose becomes big, which drives them forward.
And it helps everybody around them.
Yeah.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, absolutely.
I love it.
And it's also like, too, like it's like that dog and hunger that you have while you're in that selfish stage.
Yeah.
It carries right over.
Yeah, if the vision's big enough.
When you recalibrate and you move into the bigger purpose, if that's big enough, you're going to actually be hungrier.
Yeah.
Because who are you more going to actually be hungrier because who are
you more willing to fight for yourself or the person to the left and the person to the right,
right of you. All right. Most people will fight for the people around them way harder than they
will fight for themselves. So it's very important to get to that point. Um, and then reevaluate and
not just fall off and think it's about you. I mean, we see this all the time. If you pay attention
to people, you see this on the internet all the time. People who will,
you know, they'll become successful. They'll get some success financially. You know,
their lifestyle will go up. And then all of a sudden, you don't really hear from them anymore.
Where'd they go? Oh, and then you find out two years later, they fell off and they
got addicted to drugs and they just kind of went and ruined their lives well that's because
those people didn't take that next step they refused to understand that it's not just about
them and they didn't expand their vision and when you expand that vision to start including all the
people that have helped you get where you're going now you're going to war for a completely
different reason which is much easier to go harder at does that make sense no i'm 100 yeah most people
will fight much harder for the people around them than they will for
themselves.
Yeah.
I think it's important too, man, just like last little thing on this is like, you know,
people will hear you say that like, okay, you know, you got to be selfish in the beginning.
Well, Andy, I mean, you're saying be selfish, but like, how is that a good thing?
Right?
But it's like when you think about the amount of impact that is generated, the amount of
progress is made from that actions of being selfish. It's okay. Well, it's like when you think about the amount of impact that that is generated, the amount of progress is made from that actions of being selfish.
It's OK. Well, it's real simple. You have to get your body right. You have to get your mind right.
You have to get your life right. You have to get your income right.
You've got to get yourself right because yourself is the biggest fucking tool that you have to create this vision that you're trying to create.
So when you're getting that tool right,
there's all these people that are going to want you to go do this, and they're going to want you to go do that, and they're going to want you to deviate from the plan. That's where the selfishness
comes in. You say, no, I'm not doing that. I'm worried about this, right? Then when you've built
that, and you've got some progress there, and you have some momentum there, you're able to now take
that tool and expand the vision and make it selfless. And that's
where, that's how that works. Yeah. I love that, man. I love it. Uh, question number two, guys,
Andy, question number two, uh, Andy, uh, hi Andy. I've been working as an individual contributor
in a senior role within the HR function at my company for two years. I report to the director
of my department who reports to our VP, who then
reports to the company's chief HR officer. This year, the chief HR officer is meeting one-on-one
with everyone within the HR department to check in and discuss successes and opportunities within
the HR area in which we work. My meeting is coming up in April. As an entrepreneur, how can I add the most value to this meeting?
I feel so far removed from the C level and I'm struggling to find the best way to engage with somebody at the executive level.
I want to make a good impression. I enjoy working at my company and I aspire to grow my career here for many years to come.
What advice do you have to best prepare? There's a couple steps here. One,
become highly skilled at what it is your role is and execute and produce the proper result
at the best level, better than everybody else in your company. Okay. When you're the best,
the truth of the matter is you get preference. People know that's reality. Okay. Like you don't
get preference when you're third, you don't get preference when you're third, you don't get preference when you're
sixth, you get preference when you're number one, you get trust when you're number one,
you get respect when you're number one, that's the reality. So if you're running your job at
a mediocre level, don't expect anybody to put their hand out and try to help you along because
they're going to assume you're not bought in anyway. Okay. So you have to handle business
first of your own responsibilities. The second step there is to start anticipating needs. All right. If you want to move up, then you need to start anticipating problems that the people that you're working for have and solving those problems before they're even problems. Okay. There's nothing more valuable than someone in an organization walking in and be like, hey, just so you know, I found this and this
and this. Oh, and by the way, I already fixed this and this and this. These are done. That's
super valuable. All right. We talk in this, you know, frequently about what the most valuable
skills are as an entrepreneur and it's sales, leadership, and then the ability to take initiative
to take projects or problems and solve them without anybody above you having to put their hands on it.
And that's a huge key to moving forward.
You know, when you want to move forward in a career, it's not just do your job at a mediocre level.
That's not reality.
You'll never win that way.
That's the standard of what most people think. Most people think if they show up, they put in their time, they execute at a mediocre level that eventually time will pass and they will
become a winner. That's not reality. You have to fucking be the best at what you do. You have to
do it very well. And then you have to do other work on top of that to create value for the people
who are in the control of your path so that they say, fuck dude,
DJ's on top of it. He saw this and this and this. He always sees these things. He handles these
things. I don't have to babysit him. I don't have to, you know, remind him. I don't have to tell
him that he has to be great at his shit. And when the, when the conversation comes up behind closed
doors, well, Hey, we need another person here. We need another person there. We can, we have an
opportunity. Who's going to get it. DJ is going to get it because he's already been proving that he
can handle it so there's a vast difference between what people expect will move their career forward
and what actually will move their career forward and like i said just showing up every single day
and checking a box is dude you're you, you're committing career suicide through a thousand paper cuts.
You're just going to rot.
And that's the reality in any organization.
You have to become undeniable in your ability to contribute to where when the conversation comes up for the opportunities, your name's at the top of that list. And that can only come by you being great at what you do
and then also learning how to anticipate the needs
of the people that you're working with,
solving those problems,
and making it known that you solve those problems.
That's a thing too.
So a lot of people will do this initiative.
They'll take on problems.
They'll solve the problems,
but they won't even let anybody know
that they found these problems and they fixed them.
And if nobody knows, then you don't get any kind of recognition for it.
So you've got to come up with a tactful way to communicate that.
You have to walk into your leadership and you have to say, hey, just so you know,
I want to let you know I found this, this, and this.
By the way, I solved this and this and this.
This is what I did, and I just want to keep you in a loop.
And then you walk the fuck out.
And you know what I say?
Fuck, dude, that guy's got his shit together, right? He's worth more money. He deserves an
opportunity. We don't want to lose that guy. Those are the conversations on the backend that
employers have about their employees. And you know, it's very real. Like every single employee
in the world wants their best people to be closest to them so we can move the needle forward and a lot of people think it's about time put in or it's about you know how
many years you have because they listen to their parents who worked in the old world or or honestly
were just mediocre people i'm sure they're great people i'm sure you love them i'm sure they love
you but i'm talking about a performance standard that's mediocre and they say well fuck dude i put
in 20 years over there and they didn't do shit well yeah cuz you didn't
do shit during your 20 years you bear you showed up and you existed okay so
you have to work off this mentality of I have to be undeniably the best person in
my role so where it's impossible to ignore that's what undeniable means impossible to ignore
and when you're impossible to ignore you're valuable whether you're valuable here or there
or anywhere else if you can cultivate this mindset where you are that kind of contributor
you will get paid you will win and your career will progress and anything less than that you won't
yeah i love that.
Let me ask you this from the entrepreneur standpoint.
You know, when your businesses started growing and you started,
okay, now we have a leadership position that's in this place.
And then now that leadership position, they have, you know,
two teams and there's leadership inside of those teams, right?
And the chain of command started growing.
What were some things that you made sure that you put in place
to ensure a good, healthy chain of command,
a good relationship to where there was no fear of talking up
or from employees that are on the –
Well, a lot of times, dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, a lot of times.
Well, first of all, anybody who's going to –
this is a great question, by the way.
All right.
So your ability to communicate to the leadership as an entrepreneur is a skill that you must have.
All right.
If you cannot have a direct conversation, if you cannot communicate to the people who are up the chain from you, you are way less valuable.
You're not giving feedback. You're not giving us anything to work off of. And a lot of people,
because they don't want to rock the boat, they will have concerns. They will have ideas. They
will have issues. They will have solutions, but they won't bring them up. And because they don't
bring them up, they don't get any value.
And then they sit there and they fester and they get upset and they get bitter and it's their own
fault. Okay. So you have to understand your ability to communicate directly and clearly to
your leadership is a valuable skillset in itself. So if you're sitting there in an organization,
anybody's organization, and you're just like stewing, well, you're stewing because you lack the critical ability to have a conversation
that should be had.
All right.
If you can't give feedback, you're not valuable.
If you don't tell what the problems are, you're not valuable.
If you don't bring solutions, you're not valuable.
These are real things.
And people don't do this because they don't want to quote unquote, rock the boat. Well, that's a skillset that you have to have. How can someone be valuable? How
can someone move up? How can someone get a bigger position and more pay and a better career inside
an organization? If they will not fucking communicate, you are, you, you cannot do it.
Okay. Because as leadership, we're looking out on the
horizon and and you know let's just say we were in a battle and you're five miles over that way
on the line and you're getting fucking killed there's a problem okay you're getting fucking
killed everybody's killing all your guys you're getting shot and you won't say shit because you
don't want to be seen as a rock in the boat well now not only are only are you not valuable, you're a fucking liability to the team because you're
getting motherfuckers killed because you can see a very obvious thing that needs to be
solved and you're not doing anything about it.
That is the opposite of the undeniable aspect that we're talking about.
So communication is a huge deal.
People have to develop it and it's a necessary skill for you to move up in your career and you know a lot of times in organizations people will say well
the leadership they won't hear my they won't hear my feedback motherfucker you
don't bring it right so they assume that you won't hear it so then they make up
this narrative in your head and they say oh you know they won't listen to me they
won't this sad they approachable when in reality they just didn't even fucking develop their own communication skill right okay
so and these people go and they have this problem at one organization the next one the next one the
next one the next one they have it in their relationships they have it in their friendships
and they can't recognize that it's a them problem not not everybody else problem. Most of the problems you have is a you problem. That's reality.
So, you know, yes, you want to foster a good environment for people to bring feedback.
But they have to understand very clearly that there is a difference between actual constructive feedback that helps what's going on or gossip, drama, bullshit. And that's a huge
skill as well. If you're one of these people that just brings every single ounce of bullshit
to the leadership without handling it, now you're even less valuable. So there's a nuance here.
You have to know the difference between reality and real shit. And you have to know the difference
between bullshit and don't bring your leadership, a bunch of bullshit that's gossipy and drama-y and this and that those things are your responsibility
to handle all right the real problems go up the chain and if you can delineate those two things
and you can effectively communicate you are far more valuable especially if you can squash the
shit that's stupid and handle the things that are actually real. And so this communication that
so many people try to put on their leadership is actually an internal problem. And when you
examine their lives, you will see that they have this problem in every single area of their life.
Like I said, they have it with their relationship. They have it with their friendship. They've had
it at previous jobs and they're going to have it at next jobs. And unless you develop this skill set of one, being able to tell the actual feedback to being able to solve the problems before you actually go to them with the problem.
Three, knowing the difference between bullshit and real shit.
Unless you're able to do that, you're not valuable, dude.
Like you're just a warm body holding space. So my advice to anybody out there that's sitting there and saying, you know, I don't know what's going on.
Bro, are you doing all these things?
Like, really?
Are you?
Or are you scared shitless to say anything and do anything?
Because that's something you have to overcome to progress your career.
There's no high paying, high value, amazing career out there where the person that's in it can't communicate it just
doesn't exist don't happen and a lot of people have this problem now because of social media
yeah right they're not good with people they're not good having conversations they're timid they're
afraid they and dude you know we're talking in-person communication here okay and and so
like dude people will say well you know my leadership they don't they make it hard for me to get fit no they don't they just don't want to be bothered
with your bullshit right they want to know that when you come in there it's real shit and so they
you know we have to fucking understand that most of these problems start within us it's not out
there it's us and if your leadership doesn't appreciate real direct feedback then probably
you should go to somewhere where they do.
You know what I mean?
But the likelihood of that is.
I don't know.
I mean, there's a lot of shitty organizations out there.
It depends on if you're in the right one or not.
For sure.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny because I almost think when you were saying that about, you know, like you see a problem on the front line and you're not saying nothing.
It's like people forget like, hey, listen, that problem.
Eventually the top chain of command, they're going to find out about the problem yeah and they're going to say why didn't you do anything
how the fuck did you miss that yes and then it makes you look bad it fucking makes your stock
go way low yeah yeah it's just a simple change of mind man it's a different way of looking at it
listen dude people have to understand we have to learn that most of our problems come from within ourselves.
And if we want to be valuable, we have to work on those problems and fix them and not project them onto other people.
You know, when you've worked seven jobs and you say, no, my leadership sucks, it's not the seven jobs, bro.
It's you.
There's a common denominator here.
That's right.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love it.
Guys, Andy, our third and final question.
Question number three.
Hey, Andy, do you think there is a point?
Let me say this, too, before we get into that.
I think people don't understand how it is that they progress their career.
Okay?
No one's going to come and say, hey, you know, you've been here for seven years,
and I really want your career to progress.
That's not
what's going to happen, dude. Okay. You're going to have to be, this is how it works in real life.
You are so good. You are so undeniably good. You contribute so much. You solve so many problems.
You are so skilled. You are performing at a high level that you can walk in the office and you can say, fucking pay me, fucking pay me,
or I'm out. That's the fucking where that your goal as a fucking entrepreneur is to build so
much leverage in yourself that you can walk in and you could say, Hey, this is what I do.
Here are my stats. This is what I've done. And you could show it all clear as day. I'm the best
at what I do here. I'm this, I'm that, I'm this. I would like this opportunity. And you can show it all clear as day. I'm the best at what I do here.
I'm this, I'm that, I'm this.
I would like this opportunity.
And if I can't get this opportunity in a reasonable time frame, I'm probably going to progress my career somewhere else.
And it's nothing against you guys.
It's nothing.
I love you guys.
But I have to progress my career.
And you know what's going to happen?
You're going to walk out of the room and the people are going to say, all right got to find a spot for this guy this guy's a fucking killer yeah you know what i'm
saying the caveat being you better make sure your shit's in line well dude people try to do that
when they don't really have right they don't have leverage right and then that's when companies look
at people they're like okay yeah you need a box yeah right like okay yeah like okay like yeah you Like, okay. Yeah. Like, okay. Like, you know, so it's your job is to become so great that nobody can ignore that.
Nobody can deny it.
It has to be actual data that shows that you have to have intangibles, a feeling, a cultural
contribution, being a leader, being skilled, being able to communicate, being able to take
initiative, solve problems.
These are all things that drive your stock up and if your stock is really high you're in the driver's
seat of your life and it doesn't matter what company you're with if your stock is high and
you're good at what you do you can go anywhere and you can be successful then then the game becomes
where do i want to play what team do i want to play on do i want to play on What team do I want to play on? Do I want to play on, you know, do I want to play
on the bad news bears that loses every single year? Like the Broncos? Yeah, yeah, right. Do I
want to play for the Broncos or do I want to play for, you know, the Patriots when they're winning
Super Bowls? You know what I'm saying? Like, then you get a chance. Now you get to name your path
and that's what people don't do that work. They want to jump in on the good team,
and then they expect them to be pulled along,
and that's just not reality.
Average players don't go to the University of Alabama
and get pulled along into greatness.
They become great, then they go to the team,
and then they have to work to compete against really great players as well.
So your job is to make sure you're great.
It's that simple.
I love it, man. I love it.. Andy, a third and final question. Hey, Andy,
do you think there is a point in living a high standard that can be taken too
far when someone ostracizes themselves from reality?
I have a buddy I speak to every day.
He's got me into your show and we're both currently doing 75 hard.
We were speaking about winners and losers where he mentioned some other people we know when he claimed, quote, they're all losers.
This guy, this guy and this guy, they're just fucking losers.
The thing that frustrates me about this is he and I know we each have a lot of work to do ourselves.
So hearing him act like he's better than others was frustrating and I was
verbally disagreed with him.
I took a second to think and definitively agree.
There is validity to what he's saying.
However,
one of the people he mentioned went to prison at a young age and turned into
bodybuilding.
Over the last five years,
this gentleman has gotten into fantastic shape and continues to follow the good
path versus the bad path.
I'm still making errors along the way.
I personally disagree that someone like this isn't a loser.
He may just not be a winner in the same vision my friend and I have.
Do you believe there is room for different types of winners, such as how there is an Andy Frisella inspiring millions of people through his brands and words.
And then you have the iron cowboy literally running ultra marathons,
inspiring people through his work.
What would you say to someone that is going down the path of excellence that think thinks anyone who isn't working towards absolute excellence or simply
doesn't even know what absolute excellence is yet is a full-on loser.
What's the dynamics here?
This is an interesting question here.
Well, of course.
I mean, we have to take into consideration where people start.
Not everybody starts at the same place.
This is why you can't really judge people off the result they're producing
without considering where they started.
And the distance between where they started and where they are is actually what determines
how well they're doing. So of course, there's different people that are great. Mother Teresa,
great, right? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Machine dunking baskets like Kobe. That's what
I'm saying. Kobe Bryant, great. Tom, right. You know, Tom Brady, great.
These are all different art forms of greatness.
You know, Vincent Van Gogh, great.
You know, any of these musicians, great.
Like, they're not losers because they're not on the same path as this other person.
And I think it's important for all of us to remember this. we cannot judge people based upon our scale of what greatness means to us because it means
something different to everyone. You know, uh, somebody might be a great fucking parent,
which is extremely important, right? Um, somebody might be a great entrepreneur,
which is also extremely important and different. And while the entrepreneur may get more quote unquote credit,
I would argue that the job of being a great parent is equally as important,
if not more important, because it dictates future society.
All right.
So we have to look at all of these things.
And I don't think it's very, I don't think it's a good idea or
accurate to paint with a broad brush when it comes to winners and losers, because we're all
playing a different game. We're all working on different things. We all started in different
places. We all have natural strengths and natural weaknesses that are all different.
And as long as someone's trying and as long as someone's doing the work and as long as someone's
progressing, they're not a fucking loser. So so you know i used to be very judgmental about
people you know um but what i've come to realize is what i'm telling you you know we can we there's
a lot of greatness in different levels but i will say this there are also fucking losers okay so
maybe your friend losers do exist you're you you can't there's a line here you can't find the good or the um you know you can't make uh you can't
polish a turd all right that's what you can't do like some people just suck some people are losers
some people are never going to be to their standard and personally dude when i look at like
success being the pursuit of the fulfillment of your ultimate potential.
As long as someone's chasing that, that's a noble thing.
Because when you're pursuing success, dude, you've got to understand you can never actually
fulfill your potential.
There is no end game.
All right.
If you start out on day one and you start pursuing what your potential is on
day one, because you lack skills and lessons and understanding, your potential is X. Okay. Let's
just say that now, as you go down the path and you say, I'm going to get to my ultimate potential
and it's where it is on day one, as you go down the path, you're going to have hardships.
You're going to have lessons.
You're going to have things that happen that result in new skills.
Those new skills will expand where your potential grows on the back end.
So now your potential is not X, it's X plus two, right?
Right.
Or X times two.
So that's why the pursuit is so noble
because you can never really achieve it
because at the end of your life,
if you've committed your entire life
to becoming better and better and better and better,
and you developed this massive amount of skillset,
well, now you're out of time.
So the potential of what you could be
is never actually obtainable,
even though it's ridiculously great. And that's where it comes in, you know, teaching other people, bringing other for people around you, tremendous good for society.
And so when we think of like what success really is, we have to acknowledge that success
in the ultimate form is actually unobtainable in the long run because you're going to continue
to expand your potential.
The more skills, the more lessons, the more knowledge that you have, eventually time's
just going to cut that off.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
You're signing up for a never-ending journey. That's right.
And that's the thing.
That's why, like, when people say in entrepreneurship,
I'm going to retire by 40.
No, you're not.
I made it.
You're not.
Because if you do, you're going to be broke by 45.
All right?
The entrepreneurship, personal development, winning,
this is an endless journey that lasts your whole life.
It's a lifelong commitment.
And too many people believe that there is a destination, right? And as corny as it sounds,
it is about the journey. It's not about the destination. And as you go along the journey
and you learn more and more and you make more mistakes and you meet new people and you do all
these things and have new experiences, your ability to do more expands.
And so, you know, we have to appreciate what it is that we're working on here.
We're not working on a project that will ever actually be finished.
We're working on something that is going to continue to improve,
continue to get better, continue to produce results,
not just for myself but for other people.
And that's the way the journey works
yeah i love it it's funny i was thinking about you know some people just lose some people are
just great at losing you know but i wanted to bring this up uh because i feel like you know
anybody that's done 75 hard can attest to this too like there is a there is a point in there
where you do start looking around at people around you like fuck man like
these people aren't doing
it they aren't getting it like there is there is like a like i don't want to call it arrogance but
there there's something there like right like what what is that that's called the truth yeah
you're noticing that you're trying very hard and you're noticing that people around you are not
yeah and it becomes very annoying because you're working your ass off and they aren't and they're
looking at you saying what the fuck's wrong with you?
No.
What's wrong with you?
Right.
Maybe that's what this guy's going through.
Like that's,
that's where he's at.
Yeah.
So,
so,
you know,
it's,
it brings awareness to the reality of the situation.
And there are people in your life in every single person that's listening to this life
who are losers.
They don't try.
They don't fucking do anything to get better. They just float are losers. They don't try. They don't fucking
do anything to get better. They just float through life. They don't contribute to anything. They don't
build anything. They don't create anything. They're not trying to become anything. They're
partying their life away. They're existing. And by the time they're 45, they look 60.
And then they're like, well, this is just my life. This is what I got. No, bro. That's a cop out.
You chose this. You chose all that shit.
Your result of your life is your own doing. You were just unaware that the choices that you were making were actually going to have a negative outcome that now you think you are stuck with.
Right. So it's a spiritual guides say on the Internet.
The choices you make right now over the next 10, 15 years are going to drastically impact what your life looks like.
And there's a lot of people out here telling people that that's not true.
You got your whole 20s to fuck off.
And you know what?
Your 30s to fuck off.
And you could start when you're 40. That true there's there's examples of that you know henry
ford uh colonel sanders we go on and on and on and on and on those are the anomalies they are
the exceptions to the rule they are not the rule the typical rule is if you off between the
ages of 20 to 35 your life's gonna suck that's the norm all the norm. All right. So if you're 20, 25 years old
and you're sitting here and you're thinking like, fuck dude, I could travel the world. Okay. You
can, you could do a little bit of stuff. Enjoy your youth. I'm all about it, bro. I'm not saying
be a slave to whatever it is you're doing, but you better take your life serious and you better
make good choices because the choices you make from 20 to 35 are going to dictate the entire
rest of your life. They're going to dictate how happy you are, how much money you have,
what kind of lifestyle you have, who your friends are.
The quality of your life in general will be decided very strongly
by the decisions made between that age range.
And you know what?
You can do certain things after that.
You can definitely do it, but it's just harder to do.
Yeah, I fucking love it.
I love it.
I love it, man. Well, well guys andy that was three all right guys let's go kick ass this week don't be a hoe
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