REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 7. The Good And The Ugly To Being Authentic

Episode Date: February 27, 2020

Being authentic is one of the best qualities any human can have, especially in the land of social media, where it’s hard to believe the highlight reel. One way people try to achieve this is by being vulnerable… but there is a fine line though between vulnerability and oversharing. We talk about this and other things like when Sal used a hotel towel as toilet paper and still tries to blame Andy to this day.

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I only weigh 180, but my watch cost 250. Quarter. Slam. What's up, guys? This is Andy Pacella, and this is the show for the realest. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of society, and welcome to motherfucking reality. delusions of society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys i know it's been a minute since we had a show but we actually do stuff in real life besides just podcasts and sometimes you know

certain people that host the podcast uh they go on vacations and watch movies and hang out so you know they can't make the drive to be on the show. Right. So, you know, we just put it on hold because certain people are very important. Speaking of important people who I may or may not be discussing, Vaughn, the pastor of Disaster DJ DJ God, otherwise known as, what are you known as today? I like the Impaler.

Oh, Vaughn the Impaler, that's the one he likes the most. I like it, that's the classic. I said he does. Yeah, that's the classic. And as always too, we have Sal here in third seat. It's really shitty out today. It's snowing, sleeting, and you made the drive, dude. The weather is indeed bleak, but you know what?

My outlook on life is very bright. It is indeed bleak but you know what my outlook on life is very bright it is you know how i know that did you write that down before we started no but are you sure i'll tell you what i did write down is that i'm feeling so optimistic about 2020 i've been taking a good hard look at the brand new camrys oh shit hey that new camera is pretty badass. It is. I'm not going to lie. They make like an SE version. I saw one the other day.

It was white with a black top. I saw that. It looked good. It was fucking sharp, man. I know. They're actually starting to make them cooler because I wrote them a letter and I said, hey, I got this podcast that's based around like cool stuff and I got this dude who loves your cars. Can you please make them nicer?

Yeah, I'll bet. Then it was successful. Yeah. I'll get the Impaler version. It'll please make them nicer? Yeah, I'll bet. Then it was successful. Yeah. I'll get the Impaler version, and it'll be like tricked out. Yeah, yeah. I don't even know what it would look like tricked out. You love this Impaler thing. We talked about hotel sex one time, and now you fucking think you're the Impaler.

Well, I tell you, I thought about actually having, what are those called? Custom license. A vasectomy? Custom license. Custom license. Your personalized play. Yeah? Custom license. Custom license plate. Your personalized plate. Yeah, personalized plate. Yeah, I like those.

Because I'm pretty sure there's nobody else in Kansas who has an impaler plate. But now that I said it, they'll probably. So, dude. So, this is weird. So, in Kansas, you're going to drive around Kansas. Yeah. And everybody knows you as the pastor slash ex-pastor. Right.

Spiritual guidance. Right. Spiritual, guidance. Yeah. What do they call that? A shepherd. Shepherd. You're a spiritual shepherd. Right. Right?

Yeah. You're going to drive around with a hot new Camry with impaler plates? Well, you know it. You might get the wrong idea, bro. Well, maybe, but it's an opportunity. Kind of like if I had a van and the side of it said free candy. I think Vaughn's Impaler Camry comes with a free black casting couch. You know what I mean?

That's the upgrade. Well, you know, you left me speechless. I don't know what to say after that. We don't need to be speechless because we can look at your wallet. Is this a George Costanza special here? Oh, this is definitely a George. Yeah, and you aren't the first person to say this. And this is actually mild.

Hey, you know that'll fuck up. You got one just like that, dude. By the way, these are all the receipts that I have not yet submitted for reimbursement. Your wallet's the same as that. Yeah. Madat, go get my wallet out of my truck. It's right by my knee. Oh, no, boy.

Yeah, we're going to get a real live fucking look at it. Then you fucking fixed it. No! Because not even a week ago, not even a week ago, I was boy. Yeah, we're going to get a real live fucking look at it. Then you fucking fixed it. Because not even a week ago, not even a week ago, I was in his office and I fucking held this thing up. And I looked at it and I said, bro, this will fuck up your back. You sit on this wallet all day. Yeah. Well, I never sit on my wallet. I'm really good about that.

So now he's trying to flex like he fucking has a clean wallet. No, no, no. Mine is thick in nature. But mine does not have shit hanging out of it like this. I mean, that is an unorganized. And I have to say, this is mild, because half the time it's double this. Do I see a payless receipt? But I got to tell you, I got pretty much all the receipts from the MFCO winner contest

that I still have not submitted yet, but, you know. So you're that guy. Yeah, pretty much. What are you laughing at? You used to be that motherfucker, too. Tyler would submit a receipt to me. This was like four years ago. He'd be like, hey, do you remember that one time

where you had a drink and we were in New York City and it was August of fucking 2017? Wow. Here's this receipt. As if I would ever ask for a reimbursement. For fucking $26.95. And I'd be like, I didn't even know if you were in fucking New York and you were probably blacked out anyway.

Two stories. Let's be real. We've all been in that place where we're like, fuck, dude, I need like $10. I'll tell you what. You start getting real. We've all been in that place where we're like, fuck, dude, I need like 10 bucks. I'll tell you what. You start getting real resourceful, dude. Dude, I watched last night, I re-watched Pursuit of Happiness. Yeah.

It is a good movie. It is fucking awesome. I mean, it's like heart-wrenching in a sense. True story. I have a hard time watching that movie. Yeah. They played, I mean, I'm sure they played pieces of it up for that sense, but when the CEO of the, I forget the brokerage firm that he worked for,

Morgan Stanley or whatever, Dean Ritter, asked him for five bucks, and he only, you know, and he was in that struggle, and he only had like seven in his wallet. I mean, those moments in life are real. Bro, that's why I have a real hard time watching it. I don't like it. I mean, I know it's a great movie and all that, but like it really kind of hits home.

Fuck, man. Yeah. It is, especially when. I mean I know it's a great movie And all that But like It really kind of hits home Fuck man Yeah It is Especially when It hits home in a way I don't want to be Go back to When his wife

When his wife walked out Oh that's a big fucking wallet bro That's a bad motherfucking wallet Is what that is But look it is organized No It is clearly organized Give me that

That's impressive This is how This is how a wallet's supposed to look See that's not my wallet though My wallet looks like their fucking wallet Organized. Give me that. That's impressive. This is how a wallet's supposed to look. That's not my wallet, though. My wallet looks like their wallet. I tell you, back in the 80s, I had a stonewashed jeans wallet. Made out of stonewashed jeans. Wait, hold on.

Hold on. Dave, is that real Gucci, or is that like your cousin said it over? You get that on that street up there? What is it, Duval Street or something up there in fucking New York City? It's real. It's just not officially licensed. You got the hookup, bro. We need to talk some business.

That's funny. Well, I tell you, one of the things, you know, I sound like a broken record, but being back in Manhattan, one of the things that's kind of interesting is, you know, some people you see for the first time in years, and it's super, super awkward. And then sometimes you see it for the first time in years, and it's like you just pick up right away. And I feel like lately, like the last week, it's been just really awkward. You see somebody and they're like, oh. Bro, that's why you're supposed to wear pants in public. Yeah, right.

No, but it's, I mean, I would say the vast majority of people are pretty awesome, but every now and then you run into some, I'm running into people who are like, So what have you been doing for seven years in St. Louis? And I try to explain to them the last seven years. You didn't tell them you were slinging crap? Yeah, right. And so the trap got too hot, son. I had to fucking move back to Kansas.

But what's funny is that I was reminded, being back in a place where I've lived for so long, I was reminded of this kid that I knew growing up. And I don't know if you guys have had people like this in your life. They're so incredibly truthful in what they say. They just make things awkward. Oh, dude. You know who I know who's like, we have a friend that's like that. just make things awkward. Oh, dude. You know who, I know who's like,

we have a friend that's like that. He was here yesterday. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So this guy, literally in high school, he would literally come- You know who I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. In high school, this guy would come up to me- Yes, I know who you're talking about. And he would say like, he'd be like, oh man, your acne's looking pretty bad today. Yep. Yep. We all know a guy like that.

Yeah. And you're like, fuck you. And not only that, when you fucking do it back to them, they get their fucking feelings hurt. Oh, well, you know. What is that? There are a few people I've handed tampons to. Yeah, but dude, like, I always address people

kind of like how they address me. Like, if you're very, you know, you kind of got to get the temperature right. You know, like, this is a key to being good with people. Like you got to have sensory acuity. You got to know where they're at. And one of the things that, what? No.

Oh. That was the action. Oh, yeah. Like, dude, one of the things that people don't understand is they try to uh you know go in and and not feel what the other person's feeling or how they are and it ends up being weird as shit right like you know like so i always give it back whenever people do that to me i just give it right back let's just say hey andy bro you put on fucking little waist last time i saw you say yeah well you don't you kind of look like shit too, bro.

They don't like that shit. Right. Yeah. What was really funny though. Andy's a dick. It always comes back like that. No, I just threw the revolving door method on you. That's right.

Well, what was cool about this guy though, and I kind of had this moment of this epiphany about this dude. His name was Joel. Is that one day he came into work. Well, it's actually, we were all playing,

I don't know, we were playing like soccer or something like that. But he, all of a sudden, he looks at me, he's like, because I was wearing shorts,

he's like, dude, you have kind of powerful looking legs. And I'm, you know, it's a little awkward because he said that. But here's what kind of,

here's what kind of dawned on me. Yeah, we do. He's telling the telling the truth like he's being honest like he's always so honest he must be telling the truth here i have this problem every day when i walk into this building i got my dot over here that's true he's like bro you're looking pimp i'm like that's an honest guy yeah it's a problem vaughn it seems it seems to me that you know, I just watched the Aaron Hernandez documentary, and about 20 minutes in, his buddy is talking about him and Aaron Hernandez. You know, we used to do, like, you know, what all guys did. You know, we were young.

We were sexual. You know, we couldn't have girls over the house. So, you know, we experienced with each other. We jerked each other off. First of all, let's just set the record straight because I watched that too. That is not what all guys do. No. i never once looked at any of my friends said hey i'll jerk you off you took me off hey there's no girls here so i've been in some awkward ass situations i ain't ever been put on the table whatever the fuck that guy said it definitely

either he really believes that or he said it totally wrong because when he said it because dude you i don't know if i watched it or you watched it, but first, when we were talking about it, the whole first thing that came up was this point. Because I remember watching it and I'm like, no, that's wrong. That is not right. I literally looked at my wife and I'm like,

I'm not judging. I'm not saying that fucking dude, that's fine. That's something we want to do. But like, that ain't normal. Well, I'm judging because he said we all did it. I didn't do that shit. I played a lot of sports, man. Well, dude, I'm sitting there with fucking Emily. And like, I'm like watching. I hear her say that.

And I look over her. She's looking at me. Yeah, right. No, no. Not all guys do that, bro. No, like I might have spent a little extra time in my buddy's shower. You know what I'm saying? But I certainly didn't fucking say, hey, man.

We're weird. We explain. Well, I mean, listen, you know, when you're that age and you're going through, you know, you might have to have a little sexy time in the shower with yourself. Oh, yeah. But you ain't doing it with another motherfucking dude. Don't ever use soap, dude. Soap gets down in the pee hole, and when you pee for the next, like, three days,

it burns real bad. Andrew, that's not soap, buddy. That's fucking, no. I got a story about that, too, motherfucker. But, dude, I soap, buddy. That's fucking, no. I got a story about that too, motherfucker. But dude, I'm going to tell you, don't ever. Vaughn is so confused right now. Look at him. He's like, what is going on?

Any dude out there that's used shampoo in the shower in the alternative way that you could use shampoo in the shower regretted it. I promise. True or not true? No regrets, bro. That's right. We got one honest motherfucker here. So that's actually in the documentary?

That's in it, Vaughn. And after your little fucking story there about nice legs started me thinking about short shorts and nice legs. Were you part of that camp? No, I wasn't. Did you grow up in Connecticut by chance? That is outside my experience. Did you know where Connecticut is?

I did not. Oh. I did not. But I've heard that's a really by chance. That is outside my experience. Did you know where Connecticut is? I did not. Oh. I did not. But I've heard that's a really fascinating documentary. It's hard to watch. It was actually pretty good. Yeah. You thought it was hard to watch?

Just from a personal standpoint, because I am a follower of the Patriots, and I did admire him. I kind of read some breaking news there, bro. No, no, no. I am a, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, here it comes. No, motherfucker. No, it was just hard to watch. Someone who had the world at their fingertips, and they just, it's like, oh, here it comes. No, motherfucker. No, it was just hard to watch someone who had the world at their fingertips. And they just it's like, why the fuck are you doing this?

Look, it goes to show you, dude, that's bred into people. Yeah, it's like it's the culture they grew up. A lot of these young men, they don't know how to. Dude, you got to remember, like these athletes, are fucking, they're looked at like a stock. Like, they're not looked at as people, even at that level, college level. They're looked at as, all right, how do we keep. How much money can I make on this? I would say more so in football, too.

Yeah, but how can we leverage this guy's skill set to win games so that we could get paid and make more money? And there is not enough guidance that's going on for these young men in that sport, especially that sport, like Tyler just said. Because, dude, you have these guys who come off the streets for real, not like on Instagram, the streets, like every other motherfucker. I'm talking about like straight up people who are running with the wrong crews. They're doing real crime. And that's how they grew up, dude.

So you take them and you give them fucking $40 million like he got. Now you've just amplified. It's like what we always said on the MSCO project. Money doesn't change you. It amplifies what you are. It's a megaphone. It does change how people look at you, though. But that's neither here nor there.

But the point is, you you know there needs to be a better effort to fucking dude now we both agree there is evil people you cannot fix them and i actually think this dude was probably one of those dudes so i'm not like sympathizing with this particular but it doesn't seem like there was much of an effort made to even try and like get this dude on the right track, you know, and now people are dead because of it. Yeah. You know, and I, you know, I think that's a real, that's a real situation. You know, they have the NFL rookie symposium.

These guys are coming in, they're getting fucking drafted. They don't really teach them shit. You know, it's basically this kind of shit. Hey, um, when you walk through the hotel, there's going to be a group of girls there. Don't fuck those girls. That's basically what the symposium is. They're teaching how not to get in big trouble. Yeah.

You know what I mean? They teach them how to keep them. No, what they're teaching them is how to fucking be able to still play football. Yeah, right. Instead of actually teaching them. How to invest in themselves. How to be men. You know, and it's sad, dude.

Because like a lot of these guys, you know, they get out of the NFL. You see it, the 30 for 30s about dudes that had the world and now they're fucking destitute. There's a basketball player right now that's going around. Delonte West. Delonte West. Where, dude, he's fucking homeless. You know what I'm saying? Like, how can this man be involved in making all these other people so much money?

And he made all this money. And none of these motherfuckers are even offering to help him. That's bullshit. And if that doesn't show you. So a lot of people bitch about how much athletes are paid. No. They're underpaidpaid in my opinion. They generate all this money for all these fucking older men and older women who know how to run businesses. They're generating all, like dude, when was the last, like you like to say this, when was the last time 100,000 people showed up to watch you work?

Yeah. Never. It's a big fucking deal. That's right. By the way, I totally ripped that off from the program, but half the audience probably never seen the movie The Program. Shame on them. But it's the truth. You know what I'm saying?

I mean, specifically, you want to talk about major league sports, but look at collegiate sports. I mean, that's a fucking rat hole. I mean, I was in that rat hole, but that's a bullshit deal. I mean, these colleges are making it. Well, they just now changed it so they can get some money now, I think, right? I don't know, but they should. I think in California they get paid now.

I'm not sure. Well, I mean, it's a, you know, like. Or they get something. I always thought, man, you know, because it should. I think in California they get paid now. I'm not sure. Well, I mean, it's a, you know, like. Or they get something. I always thought, man, you know, because it'd be hard to give a, you know, if you can't give a college student athlete money, like, why wouldn't they invest in their retirement? Like, they should put them up. No, it should be a trust. You get it when you're fucking 50. 50 years old.

That's right. That's right. Or you get it when you're 40. Or you get, or like, dude, they could scale it. Like, if you get to this income outside of sports by the time you're 30, like, you could scale it so it can responsibly teach them how to, right? So, like, dude, like, you take a guy who's 19 years old, you give him $40 fucking million or whatever, $100 million now for a lot of these motherfuckers,

and you say, all right, you earned an extra $70 million through your college performance or $30 million or whatever. You could get that at age at, let's say, five years post-retirement of your job if you hit certain financial goals based upon what you make. You know what I'm saying? Dude, you could develop a scaled system numerically that these got to teach these guys to operate a certain way in life. Like, dude, if you don't have any crimes, if you don't have any of this, if you don't have any of that, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like there could be a system, but it's just not, nobody fucking cares.

I just think it's, well, yeah, because they're pawns. I just think it's, I think it's bullshit. You know what I mean? You could it's i think it's bullshit you know i mean you could sell their jerseys you can sell now you can sell alcohol at the stadiums you can sell all the shit all the tailgate you can do the university gets think of the all i mean do just but i university of alabama right think i mean i agree they shouldn't give them the money no no they should not they should ruin them they should invest it in that's right for their for their for their savings for their life that they can pass on to their kids so that they don't end up homeless. That's right.

But I mean, you think about just the University of Alabama. Think how many fucking towels and pop-up tents and cups and mugs and koozies, all that bullshit they get licensing fees on. And it's because those kids are out there busting their fucking dicks off the dirt. And they've been doing it since they were fucking four, five, six years old. And they grew up, a lot of those kids grew up with nothing. And here's all these fuck, everybody else gets the fucking profit off it. That's dog shit.

So just to clarify, Andy, a bill was signed in California in 2019, September. It doesn't take effect until 2023. What's the bill? The bill is under – they could get paid under new California law. They signed a bill to allow college athletes to hire agents and make money from endorsements. And it says the measure, the first of its kind, threatens the business model of college sports.

Oh, Dan, NCAA is crooked as fuck, man. I'm telling you right now. First of all, you don't get paid shit to be an athlete in college. You don't get paid shit. They pay for your, everybody's like, oh, you get free school, you get free this. Free food here and there. Not really.

You know what I mean? Like, dude, I've traveled on a fucking shit ass, but now, granted, I love doing it. people think it's it's fucking like this it is luxury awesome thing you go to fucking alabama yeah but you go to fucking southern illinois like you went yeah like it's a little bit different of a thing dude you know and and you're generating all this revenue right and they can have a revenue share you know what i mean it could go throughout all ncaa and it doesn't have to be you know dude there's just a lot of ways to fix the problem the truth of the matter is none of the fuckers in charge want to fix it fuck no that bill that ain't gonna fix shit right so two things one is that i did read that uh delonte west uh

college teammate jameer nelson is trying to organize some help for him. So that's kind of cool. And I don't know if Jameer ended up playing NBA, but to your point. Yeah, but I'm just saying, he played fucking NBA. The guy was a fucking stud. No, I agreed. And he's played with all these other players who still have, you know, like you guys can't fucking, you guys can't like give this, you know,

or set up a, you can't take 500 grand of your fucking $100 million and set up this dude's life for him and teach him how to get back on his fucking feet. Absolutely. Like, fuck, man. But also to your point, I don't know if you guys ever saw the, I know neither of you are real big NBA fans, but did you ever see the documentary on Allen Iverson? No, I never saw it. Okay, so. We talk about practice. Right... We talk about practice. Right, we talk about practice. Well, so

there's this really cool aspect of his life that just kind of to your point about why don't we have more people who are watching out for these guys and teaching them how to do things. Well, he had a guy, an older gentleman in his life at the time who basically, I don't know what official role he played in his life,

but he basically borderline forced Iverson to do this, but he set up basically a trust fund for him. And he gets a certain amount every year, and he doesn't actually control it until he's, I think, 45 years old. And in the documentary, Allen Iverson basically said, if it wasn't for that guy forcing this on me, I get a certain amount every month, he's like, I'd be broke.

No shit. I'd literally be broke. He said, but somebody cared enough, an older gentleman cared enough to look at me and say, this guy doesn't know anything about anything, so I'm going to come alongside him and I'm going to teach him. The other problem, Vaughn, is that these fucking guys who pretend to care are really just trying to steal motherfuckers' money. Right.

Dude, that's that whole fucking game. Dude, these dudes come at them, oh, I got this business idea, I got this, look, you got this you want to invest in, I got that, I got that. Dude, these kids don't know shit about business. No fucking shit. Did you watch the show Ballers?

It's awesome. Dude, it's a great representation of exactly what you're saying. Yeah, it's a fucking game to take the money from them and put it in your pocket. You would like it. It's got the rock in it. It's fucking good. He's good, man. It's a great show. It's one of my favorite things he's ever done. What is it on?

HBO. Well, it's not on anymore, right? Is it on demand or something? Yeah, it's on demand. But it's not on anymore, right? They just had the last season, but it's still on there. To your point, that's like a fatherly figure to Alan. My kids' irrevocable trust is set up the same way. From 25 to 30, they can only match the money that they're making, and then half of it's got to go to real estate,

and the other half's got to go to travel. You know what I mean? So I set it up to where they can't even touch a motherfucker if they want to. Fuck off. That's it. Fuck off. This is the way I want it. That's the way it's going to be.

You ain't going to blow it. And so having somebody who's going to teach a 21-year-old kid that. Dude, even those kids and parents and those kids' brothers and sisters. They don't know. They don't know either. So these guys get, let's say they get a $5 million signing bonus. Those motherfuckers think it's $100 million. They go out and they buy Bentleys and they buy Rolls Royce

and they buy everybody they know a fucking house, and in two weeks they got a million bucks left, and they're fucking like, oh, shit. Well, I can tell you this from being inside that locker room, man, because in baseball the top two round picks, I mean, the money whenever we were there, the first round guys get between a million and a million five. Now it's like four million to five million. But a million, million and five.

Round two, they would get somewhere between $600,000 and $900,000. But when you would pull up to spring training and you would always see the first top five picks cars in the parking lot. And, you know, at the time you thought it was a ton of fucking money. I mean, dude, that dude, you're like, you look in the locker room. That motherfucker's got a million and a half dollars. Yeah, but back then, those motherfuckers were buying $50,000 Escalade. Yeah, and putting 22s on it. Yeah, that's right.

Now they're buying fucking Rolls Royce Cullinans. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, it's a... The fucking level of... Well, the scale's the same. The baller scale for these athletes has gone way the fuck up. Like, most athletes can't live the way that they fucking project that life well i think

in my brain though too you know at the time when you're 21 22 years old and these are your friends you think oh man that kid's rich he got 1.3 million bucks well all right government's got fucking half now like looking at it in a sense well he spent 100 grand on a car so he's so he's got 700 grand just spent 100 on a car 300 on a house he's got 300 grand,000, just spent $100,000 on a car, $300,000 on a house. He's got $300,000 left. Now what? Right. I know. You know what I mean?

Now what? Now his family comes after him. I don't think people realize, this is something we've talked about before, especially on the MFCO project, but I don't think people realize that no matter what your income is, bad spending is always going to eclipse your income. Oh, yeah. Bad habits? Yeah. Like, if you make $40,000 a year and have the habit of living over your means,

you're going to do it at $400 million a year. That's right. It's just, it's relative. The best book that I recommend, every young kid that comes in here, I bet you I bought, this guy fucking, I probably paid for this guy's fucking house myself.

Seriously, it's a book that I read, and it was one of the first books I read. First book I ever read about money. It was about 21, 22 years old. It's called The Automatic Millionaire. And it talks about paying yourself first, the principles of setting yourself up. And if you can establish that guideline at $40,000, and you live by these principles, investing in yourself,

over time, as you scale your money, your percentages are still the same so your investment that's the whole key it's the that's what people don't long game well dude and that's dude i get that shit a lot like people look at my life and they're like fuck dude he's spending all that money no i'm fucking abiding by my rule that i've always abided by you know you've got to decide what percentage of your income and when you're when you're starting out a huge percentage of your income is going to go to living as you start to progress that percentage is going to get less and there's going to be more expendable the difference is people who are smart financially understand that what they should do is just scale their shit percentage wise versus just spending all this money they got coming in which which is what 99% people do,

which is why, you know, when people see my house and the shit that I do and the things that I own, they think, well, he must be spending every fucking dollar he makes. No, actually, we're just doing pretty fucking good, you know, and we're scaling it up. And, dude, I was on the conversation about, you know, with one of my buddies even today about how in business that's important too. with one of my buddies even today about how in business that's important too.

A lot of guys get fucking super... This is what kills companies. People get a lot of income coming in. Sales get good. They fucking automatically start spending all the profits instead of scaling properly. And dude, the next year they're gone. They're fucking gone.

You know what I mean? No Instagram. Where the fuck did that guy go he gone yeah right he's gone so guys let me switch this up a little bit because i i topic wise so believe it or not i can make a connection here between my friend joel who was super truthful but awkward and aaron hernandez and what we're talking about now which is you know we've all been around those people that are, they're awkward, but at least they're real. They're truthful. And then you find out somebody like Aaron Hernandez, who for years people looked at him and said,

oh, he's an NFL player, had no idea behind the scenes what kind of person he is. And it just kind of raises my question, because this is kind of a buzzword today, is authenticity. You know, what does it mean to be authentic? What does it mean to be true to who you are? You know, because we're talking about these guys.

We watch these documentaries and we find out these people are not what we think they are, right? And I'm just kind of curious, because I feel like that's a buzzword right now in culture, is authenticity. Be authentic. And it's one of those cliches, it's almost like be self-aware, right? It's one of those cliches that people use so often.

The problem with authenticity, bro, is that people have redefined authenticity as ranting, right? They've redefined authenticity as complaining. You understand? So what we have right now going on in the world is everybody thinks they're fucking authentic, but what they're trying to do is create an authentic personality, an authentic character.

You follow what I'm saying? Right. So, which actually is the most inauthentic thing that you could possibly do. So, I'm glad you brought this up because it's something that's really bothered me, especially with the vulnerability thing. You know, there's a lot of people on the Internet and everywhere right now that they think the way to connect with someone is to just like spew all their shit, like all the bad things. You know, they tell the story and especially with like the mental health movement that's come in. Yeah. You know, everybody's trying to heal. Right. Everybody has trauma. And so now everybody thinks that to be authentic is sharing your deepest, darkest, darkest bullshit with the world every single day.

No, man, that's not authenticity. That just makes you look like a complainer. Right. You know, that's the truth. It's whiny. It doesn't. That's not authentic. Authentic is saying things the way you would say them.

It's sharing how you feel. It's not trying to create a character, but instead sharing the actual humanity that every single person has. And guess what? When you share who you are, there's always going to be multiple facets of that sharing. Some days you're going to feel fucking great.

Some days you're going to be pissed. Some days you're going to be multiple facets of that sharing. Some days you're going to feel fucking great. Some days you're going to be pissed. Some days you're going to be happy. Some days you're going to be angry. Some days you're going to be somewhere in the middle and sharing that as it comes is authentic. Getting up on Instagram and posting nine times a day and saying inspirational shit, throwing in a few curse words, that is not fucking authenticity. Authenticity is, hey, motherfuckers, you know what? Today sucks. And guess what? Some days just suck.

And you share it. And then the next day when it doesn't suck anymore, hey, today's a better fucking day. Like that's way more authentic than these motherfuckers that think they're authentic right now. So truthful. Just simply being truthful. I think it's just transparent.

Transparent and truthful. Yeah. Like it's not having an agenda with being authentic. Dude, I'm so fucking sick of hearing the word vulnerability. I can't even stand it. Like people, there's social media fuckers out there like coaching people saying ah just be vulnerable dude it's the same thing as girls that post their ass in every fucking picture that's you're doing that because

you fucking know that that gets the most likes and comments oh yeah there's nothing authentic about that well i think vulnerability right like but what I'm saying is the people who constantly post that same shit over and over again about the vulnerability or they think they're authentic, those motherfuckers are trying to create a scenario where people like and share their shit. There's nothing authentic about that. That's manipulation. No doubt about it. I mean, it's their narcissistic way to try to get a double time.

Yeah, but Sal, they don't understand it. It's not that they're not even aware of what the fuck I'm saying right now. They think they're authentic. They think they're on the other team. I don't know what they think. Well, I can tell you. I mean, like, I mean. Dude, those motherfuckers are going to hear what I just said,

and they're going to be like, not me. Yeah, right. Not me. No, you. Yes, you. I think, you know, for me personally, I've... Bro, that's why I fucking, one day you might see me fucking post some real positive shit. The next day, I might say, fuck all you.

That's authentic shit. Well, I think parenting has taught the authenticity of me. Cause I, you know, the other day somebody made a comment and I, I've made a video about this or like, well, you make parenting look so easy, but that's not the message I'm trying to portray because parenting is fucking tough,

man. Like, yeah, like my kids go fucking crazy and they scream and fucking yell, you know, but I'm choosing not to be negative in that sense and put it on there. But you know, so that by choice,

like trying to be as authentic as I can, but then there's like that slippery slope where you're like, fuck, man, you know, maybe I should show more of that. Maybe I shouldn't show more of that. Maybe I'm complaining. Maybe I'm not right. Being vulnerable and telling the truth is not is not inauthentic. It's how you do it that creates the inauthenticity. So, for example, like when you made that video, you're being truthful and vulnerable about like,

hey, this is actually really fucking hard. That's not a strategy, though. You're just, some days. Yeah, you have a bad fucking day. That's right. Gotta let them know that, too. Right. But what I'm saying is that it's become a fucking strategy.

An intentional thing. That's right. Of course. And that's the least authentic thing in the world. Well, and so I was trying to get to the vulnerability piece. Like the vulnerability topic, vulnerability only works in genuineness of authenticity. Okay. So like you can only, if you got to check this box first for vulnerability to fucking matter.

Meaning like if you and I, you and I have had this. Right. Right. You and I had to be authentic with one another. We had some arguments. We fucking shared some thoughts. Some apologies were said. You get to the next stage of the relationship.

The next stage of the relationship, now you peel back a little layer. You say, hey, man, this is what I struggle with. You know what? I struggle with this too. Maybe we can help each other. So that vulnerability, if you lead with vulnerability, likely it's unintentional or, excuse me, intentional manipulation. Manipulation. Algorithm.

Right. Versus when you lead with. You know what the fucked up thing is, bro, is the people who do this shit, they actually take on that personality in real life. So now you have someone, because I've seen it fucking happen. Now you have someone who constantly posting about healing their fucking trauma. And dude, look, like dr nicole she's my one of my favorite fucking humans of all time we're gonna have her on the show 20 more times but people take shit so fucking far like she you know what i'm saying like dude yes some bad shit

happening yes you should probably work on it no that's not who the fuck you are as a person right you know it's a part of your thing right i feel like so many people are trying to like they're not understanding that they're actually starting to mold their own identity around this one thing and then when you see them in real life hey how's it going uh it's going. Well, fuck you then. You want to talk about tying two worlds together? I mean, dude, whenever I played minor league baseball, there was a sense where you thought you had to be this one person. But the truth is I made $1,200 a fucking month.

I made $1,200 fucking dollars a month. Here I am. I'm supposed to be this fucking, dude, I played for the St. Louis Cardinals. You go to the bar, everybody's kind of expecting you. You have to kind of learn this. That's a nice perk, though. Yeah, it was definitely, definitely helped my dating social situations. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't play for a lot of drinks and I never paid for a round of golf, but you know, but you like started to adapt this, this persona that really

wasn't you, you know what I mean? And so then you start to fall into the mold that that's how, and this, the truth is like, that's how a lot of people operate. You know, you know they kind of get into the system they're they're going against their core beliefs and core values and then they fall into the system and it's a that in and of itself is a probably the wrong path you want to live your life like authenticity is being who you genuinely are and being okay with who you are and understanding that some people are not going to like who you are and being able to fucking swallow that fucking pill. And that's the thing that I think. Dude, and that's just something that comes, I think, with exposure. Like, dude, you have to go out and be willing for people

to not like you to understand. It's not that big of a fucking deal. It's a fucking fake fear. You know what I'm saying? Like, we all have this fucking thing in our head. We're like, dude, if I fuck. Like, dude, that one time you post that progress picture and you're like, dude, somebody said something this.

What? No, no, no. I'm going to piggyback. Why are you looking at me all weird? Because I got a good point. Well, fucking go ahead then, man. It goes back to your... Shit, dude, you look at me like you were fucking going to do something sexual there.

No, no, no. It's got me scared. Yeah, but there... Please put that in the video, how he was looking. What the fuck was that? I'll add some creepy music. Listen, it's acceptance. It's no different than the double tap.

They're willing to sell their souls for the fucking likes of people, right? So, like, in life, like, they're willing to sell who they are so that people accept them. Yeah. And all those people live in this fake little world together when in reality... When they're all fucking damaged. They're all... Yeah. So, and, like, and I can tell you, man, this is this is real talk for me to whoever's out there like the second i really do the second i

stopped lying the second the second i started understanding exactly who i am and accepting who i am for my flaws for my strengths and working on my flaws that doesn't mean you're flawed you can just fucking shove them on people the second i started being i mean fucking dead ass honest truth with myself and i started living the way i wanted to. My life got insurmountably better. And not only did I feel better about myself, I was proud of who the fuck I was. Dude, that's called being an adult. You know, it's just most people never get there. It's called being authentic.

Yeah, yeah, no shit. But like, you know, that's a problem for people because they're so afraid of the rejection that they hide for their whole life. Like that one dude who fucking said that stupid shit to you about your workout pick. Yeah. Like, dude, those people just exist. Like, what I've started to feel like is like, damn, dude. Like, for example, like every time I drive my fucking rolls, I get the fucking finger. Every fucking time okay

every time so weird tyler's seen it he's been with me when i've gotten him yeah like dude i got it on video kind of we got it on video this fucking lady pulls up starts talking shit dude i used to get so upset about that like i'd be like fuck like i would question my whole entire reality i'm like fuck dude is this really like morally wrong and this is when i'm recording the fucking podcast like dude i'm supposed to know this shit and i'm over here like fuck damn dude it's like it bad that i actually like cool cars and stuff like what why do people i don't understand like i couldn't grasp because like to me that was always something i aspire to to do right drive cool cars i fucking love cars right so when i

started getting those things i was like where the fuck is this coming from why is this that why are people rude to me why are they doing these things and it would hurt me dude like i'd take it would take fucking dude i would remember like the first time it happened, dude, I posted about it. I remember it took me like a week before I even wanted to drive the car again. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then I'm like, I realized, I'm like, this ain't about me. This is about all the shit that they told themselves they wanted but never fucking got.

That's about them. Yep. That's not about me. And then I started thinking about all the times that I didn't go out and all the times I didn't go on vacation and all the times

I felt shitty because my friends made more money than me and then I started thinking about sleeping on that fucking floor back in the day

and you know trying to not let the piss fucking stain go up my saliva into my mouth because I had this weird phobia. I started thinking about all this shit.

And then I started thinking about all the shit that you and I get to deal with on a fucking daily basis. And you know what I realized? Fuck you if you don't like it. Because I paid to fucking be here. I've paid the price to be here. If you don't like it, I'm sorry. That has nothing to do with me.

And once I came to that realization then i was like oh it doesn't matter those people how are they fucking gonna hurt me those people don't buy our shit anyway they're not fucking customers of ours they're not you know what you know what it's irrelevant so i'm sitting here damaging my own self for things that i've like questioning like why did you do all this shit? You know, to like, what, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then I realized like, dude, it has nothing to do with me. Like it really doesn't. But like the problem is Vaughn is that most people never get the exposure to it on a regular basis to get used to it, to the point where it's irrelevant. They just hide

from that first thing that never actually happens you know that story they tell themselves right oh dude if i fucking if i buy this car so and so and fucking so and so some piece of shit that they know from second fucking grade who probably called him fucking fat or did something rude who's probably a completely different human now okay and we're afraid that like that second grade situation is going to come back and hit us in the face when we're adults so we fucking live in this little bubble and we say well i'm not going to do anything i don't want to rock the boat and then we start with this shit well this is actually what i really wanted this is actually how i really wanted to live.

I chose this because it makes you feel good, right? Then you don't have any regret if you chose your current situation. If you chose it, you follow what I'm saying? You didn't really choose it, but you ended up here, so now you tell everybody you chose it so it makes you feel good, right? Right. And now all of a sudden, you know, you're noble. There ain't fucking nothing noble about that. Right? Right. And now all of a sudden, you know, you're, you're noble. There ain't fucking nothing noble about that.

Right. That's the weakest shit on the face of the earth. So, so I like the direction you're going and I, let's, I think that it's fair to say that one of the things that has made your brand popular and, um,

and, and regardless of what people think about you, whether they're super positive or super negative, everybody would agree, well, I'll say this about Andy, he is who he is. And he's very, very authentic about who he is. And I got, for me, I got one of the best compliments I've ever gotten at the last, not the last RTA event,

but like two events when our friend Alex Pike from Australia. Oh, the live. What she said to you about me, I took that as one of the greatest compliments. He's exactly in person the way he is on the show. Who are you? Me. Me. She said that about me, and that meant a lot to me.

And so I think you and I, and Sal, you're a very real person. I think you're very down to earth. So let's just unpack this for people. People who are trying to be authentically who they are. Well, let me ask you this. What do they need to do to feel comfortable with themselves? Dude, it's real easy. It is fucking so easy.

All right? It's so easy. Step one, cut a hole in the box. Step two. Does that make sense, though? Like, ask. All right. So, who's got the box?

No, dude. Dude. Of course you do. I bet you do. So, dude. I've been wanting that for years. It's really fucking simple. I do it all the time.

Say whatever the fuck you think, and then if it's fucked up, apologize for it. Listen, that's actually a good tactic. It's real fucking simple. Vaughn, is that not exactly how I work? Yeah. That's true. No, I mean, there's no question that... Do I have a problem fucking saying when I'm wrong?

No, not at all. Right. No. I can, there's no question that, I mean. Do I have a problem fucking saying when I'm wrong? No, not at all. Right. No. I can authentically say that. I think, gosh, we've had some good conversations in the last week or two. And we've had some aggressive ones. Right. We've had some aggressive ones.

Both ways, by the way. It's not just me saying shit. Like, you guys all think because I'm me. It's one. No. There's always both sides behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying? Dude, look, man.

I just try to tell the fucking truth. And then if I cross over because I got emotional or whatever, then I say, because I can. Because that's my personality. I'm like a little snowball. You put it top of the hill and you start pushing it, and then by the time it gets to the bottom of the hill, it's a fucking massive snowball.

He just calls himself a snowball. Well, I'm going to tell you, there ain't nothing about when he's at the top of the hill, a little snowball. It always starts as a big snowball. It's how big it gets. If anything, it gets smaller. All right, fine.

That's fair. That's fucking fair. No, but it is fair But on the other hand Like, give me that Can I give you What he's saying In a different way? Sure, go ahead

Own your shit Well, no And I've obviously Been around Andrew A pretty long time But it's a tactic That's used You should have

Fucking been around Before you were around That was when The big pen man Was going on You don't even know About that Well, you still

Shit on yourself I'm sure But you shit on yourself, I'm sure. But you shit on the towel. Yes! He did! Thank you! Alright, so here. Remind me to unpack this,

but you've been around both of us induced with alcohol. I'll take the blame. I'll accept responsibility. Who controls their functions better? Dr. Fursella? Doctor? Do we need to tell Dr. Fursella? Wait, wait.

Let's stay on the fucking course. Yeah, all right. All right. Dr. Fursella could be a great story. So we're unpacking what it means to be authentic or how to become authentic. Well, that would be fucking good content. If you were in your car,

that's one of those things you fucking piss your pants on. All right, well, let's tell the truth then. You fucking shit on the top. There's no fucking way. I don't sleepwalk. I don't sleep eat. I don't fucking sleep. I don't fucking sleepwalk either because I don't fucking sleep.

You tell me that you fucking walk in your, you go into your pantry and the whole goddamn thing. That's not sleepwalking. I know what I'm doing. That's sleep eating. I'm waking up in the middle of the night when you're a fucking sleep and I'm eating. That is not sleep eating. That is just me eating in the middle of the night. Knowing him for maybe a few years or not,

I would also say that alcohol would induce some of these behaviors. Bro, you try to always bring up the same fucking story as evidence. That was one time. That was one time. You suck one dick. So anyway, back to this. Just to clarify for our listening audience, what exactly are you going to clarify?

So to learn to be able to be yourself, and I think Andrew displays this on a regular basis, like he is himself, fucked up in nature in a sense, where he gets emotional and screams and yells and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what it does is it pushes people who would not stand in your corner further away from you, and people who you can tolerate to get closer to you, right? And they understand how to deal with maybe your imperfections in your dealings. So a step for somebody out there is like the easiest way to be yourself

is to eliminate those people, the quote-unquote haters. Dude, you just got to start exiting them for your circle. And it's okay. Like just because he was your fucking homie in high school doesn't mean he's going to be your homie at fucking 40. Bro, I'm so- He might be the biggest douchebag you know. Listen, I'm so sensitive about that.

Like, dude, people can make one fucking comment that's off. That's like, dude, look. I had a fucking friend. All right. I'll tell a story about this, about how serious I am about weeding people out. So I had a friend who came to my 40th birthday party. He told another girl that was there

dude i've known andy for blah blah blah blah blah right and he had we've been friends for a long time he's like yeah i feel like he's just trying to show off now and he said that to her and she said that to me guess what guy's out he was at my fucking house you know i'm saying like i cut it out like that that that's how fucking much you have to pay attention you've got to pay attention to the little remarks the shit that people say that's a jealous fucking thing to say well and in order so i can't have that person around me yeah because it it it it it deflates the balloon you know that's right like's right. And your balloon should be able to fly. And real fucking friends will put air in your fucking balloon.

That's right. Yeah. Like, I don't, you know, people ask, do you get jealous of Andrew? No. Like, I don't. Why? Yeah. Like, in my brain.

Well, that's because nobody sees the back end or what the fuck we have to deal with and shit. Well, yeah. Nobody sees that shit. But even my friends, like, you know,, like my buddy Tejas from Chicago, he's fucking killing it. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, awesome. Yeah. You know, like, I don't know in my brain, like in somebody who you're great friends with at one point in time in your life, you might grow away from them and that's okay. You're gonna. Yeah. You're gonna.

Especially if you're scaling. Dude, every phase of life, you're going to grow into a new realm of people around you. It's not lonely at the top. You just ain't at the fucking top. You're guessing, right? I ain't at the top. What happens is, and I've said this a million times, you got Tony and fucking Stevie and Bobby from the old days. Grew up, rode bikes together when we were kids, played hockey, got in fights, did all the shit.

Right? If you're a girl, it's probably other shit. Then you get to be in your 20s and you get a new group of friends. And you don't see Stevie and Bobby and Tony as much. Right? Then you get, like, this is how it's been for me. Then in third and when I get in my 30s, I don't see the dudes from college as much. And I don't hardly ever see these other guys. And it just keeps kind of going like there's nothing wrong with that.

That doesn't mean you don't like them. It doesn't mean that now sometimes it does, but it doesn't. Sometimes you just you're just on a different path and other people are on another path. And that's it. And that's okay. But see, I see it as okay, but I don't think people realize they're guilty. A lot of people, when I say this shit, they'll fucking chime in and be like, yeah, bro, that makes fucking sense, and then I'll see them two days later on Instagram

sort of throwing some shade at somebody, you know what I'm saying, or making a rude comment. Dude, people don't understand that they're the people. You're doing this. If you're listening right now, you fucking do it. That's the easiest way to say it. If you're listening to this right now, you're probably do exactly what we say to other people. And you're just not aware that you're doing it. That's the truth.

So the first step to fucking weeding that shit out of your life is to stop being that way yourself. Don't gossip. Don't talk shit. If you have something to say, make sure it's something positive to, to about when we're talking about someone, you know what I mean?

Like, don't be that motherfucker because I'm going to tell you right now, like, and this is, this is a fucking practical thing from, for making a financial progress in your life. People in my position and above. Okay. Cause I ain't shit in the big scheme of things. I do pretty well for fucking St. Louis boy, but like we got a long fucking way to go.

And I can tell you people in my position and further up the ladder, I'm looking for one thing. Say one thing, say one thing off the thing off the acceptable radar that isn't contributing. You're fucking out. I don't have time to fuck with that. That's why a lot of people struggle being successful because they can't control their fucking mouths. You know what I'm saying? I posted this clip from Bradley the other day talking about this.

Did you see that? I did not. Yeah. A guy on his show was talking about how he said something negative to a friend about this other guy. Well, he didn't realize that the other guy and this friend were also friends. So the friend he confided in told the friend it cost him a $900,000 deal. Shit happens every day.

And not only did it cost that motherfucker a $900,000 deal, he didn't say the rest of it. The rest of it is it probably cost him way more because he don't fucking know how many people that motherfucker knows right so he thinks it's 900 grand i don't remember who what the guy's name was but you're fucking wrong on your math bro it's probably more like nine million or even way more than that it's a good idea to not talk shit yeah it was funny because i was having a conversation the other day with one of my friends and you know there's that saying it's like everything you need to know about life you learned in the second grade you know and it's like i don't know about that well no i mean dude for the core principles about life you know like you know don't say things to people

that you wouldn't want said to you that's right i mean like there's a very there's very these little stupid cliche sayings that you they teach you as a kid like if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. As you get older and you look back, you're like, huh, maybe they were fucking right. Yeah. Well, there's a reason that things become a cliche. Of course. Because they're true. I mean, generally speaking.

They've just been repeated so often that people get tired of hearing them. But it's true. I'll tell you where I'm at, bro. Like, you know, not that anyone cares about me, but I'll tell you where I'm at. Here's where I'm at. Shit is really fucking simple.

It is so fucking simple. I spent 15 years of my 20 years of my life. Probably trying to figure it out. It's fucking simple. Do the right thing. Don't quit. when other people quit. Use other people quitting as a sign to keep going. Don't be fucking, don't cut corners.

All right? Be good to people. Be good to animals. Fucking don't talk shit. And learn from your mistakes. If you can do those things, you're going to live a fucking awesome life. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure.

There's probably a few other I'm forgetting, but it's very simple. It's just people want it to be complicated, and the reason they want it to be complicated is because they want to pay for the solution as opposed to just doing the work. You know what I mean? It's an easy sale to say,

hey, give me five grand, I'll teach you the fucking secret. That's a fucking great deal. Five grand? me five grand, teach you the fucking secret. That's a fucking great deal. Five grand? You're going to tell me the fucking secret? Fuck yeah, I'm buying that shit. Everybody understands that, even if you don't have five grand. And you're like, fuck, all right.

And this is where the fucking predators get in play. They come in, they say, oh, yeah, fucking five grand. But today it's fucking $99 and ninety seven dollars only today only. And it's the fucking secret. And that person's looking at their fucking bank statement and they're like, fuck. I don't have any money, but I got I got ten thousand dollars of room on my credit card. So a thousand dollars this ain't going to matter. And then I could take the other.

You know what i'm saying they start justifying it because these dudes build up this message so so hard for them and then these people the dude they fucking get fucked that's what it comes down to and it's it's part of the reason why i wanted to shift gears a little bit you know i just don't like being a part of that shit yeah i don't think it's right but i mean it goes it's real simple like would you pay five thousand dollars for the fucking if there was really a secret would you pay five grand fuck yeah i would i'd fucking pay i'd buy it all for you i'd buy fuck dude even when i was had no money i would have figured out how to get it that's what these people think and they have to understand there's no fucking secret to this shit.

You know what I mean? It comes down to living certain values and being consistent, and literally every day. I talked about this on my story. A lot of people laugh because they see me pick up trash, or they see me, you know, I talk about wiping the piss off the toilet seat, or they see me doing fucking cardio in the snow. Bro, you know why I do that shit?

I do that shit because it makes me better. I'm not doing that shit to fucking make you feel bad or show how good I am for the fucking Internet. No, I'm a piece of shit. And I need to fucking do things to condition me to not be a piece of shit. So I do them because winning is more important to me than being a piece of shit that's really the truth so when i do those things it isn't to say oh give me fucking claps and this and that you fuck man if you really saw what i did you'd think i was fucking retarded oh fuck we can't say that word anymore can we

no comment awkward silence fuck dude i you know what it is what it is i try to not say it i think i think it goes back to i mean it's a core principle right yeah do do the right thing what's the right thing to do you piss on the seat you're fucking cleaning your white bit yeah but i'm saying dude like i like dude when i go in the pisser i clean the seat off even if someone else pissed on it because i don't want the guy walking in to think I did it. Like, that's how much pride I take in my fucking reputation and myself and my skills. Like, dude, I know that if I walk past that fucking speck of paper on the ground, my skill

level is going down. Like, you don't just, skills are perishable. You know, my discipline level, if I walk by that piece of paper, fucking goes down a little bit. And if I walk by a fucking piss stained piece of paper, fucking goes down a little bit. And if I walk by a fucking piss stained toilet seat, then it goes down a little bit more. Then it goes, you know, and that this is how it works. So like people don't understand that every action you do is either raising or hurting your levels of those skills. And if people understood that they would, the world would look a lot different.

There wouldn't be as much litter. There wouldn't be fucking as much bad shit. There wouldn't be all this hate on the internet. There wouldn't be all these things that all of us don't like because people would take pride in their ability to elevate their own skills, right? Because at the end of the day,

people are fucking selfish. Dude, we talked about this the other day on the walk on 75 Hard, remember? I'm like, dude, the way it's wired in my brain now, whenever I see a piece of paper, it's like the coins throughout Mario, right? Yeah. The little karma points. Yeah, that's right.

Dude, I know. But that's what it is. Right. That's really how it works. So I'm not saying it's karma. I believe in karma. But I'm not saying it's karma. But what I am saying is that if nothing else, nothing else,

it doesn't make me worse and I hate being shitty so much that I'm willing to do anything I can that doesn't make me worse and has the potential to make me better you know what I mean so that's the real way that people get great at things so you you guys segued into success and how to be successful in sort of a practical way. And that actually ties into, there's a really weird phenomenon that happens when people

are trying to up their game, they're being successful. And it's that they are authentically doing a good job. They are authentically moving in the right direction, but they feel fraudulent. Oh, yeah.

They have imposter syndrome. And I'm just curious, what do you tell somebody who actually is authentic, is trying to do right by the world, but they feel like a fake? Like, why do people even feel like fakes? If they're actually doing good, why do you feel like a fake? Well, it's mostly common in people who really care a lot about

being authentic and being genuine and actually being the real deal. The only people that are concerned about being a fake are the people who actually care about being real. One of the things I do to try to help people get past that is to make them understand.

For example, I messaged somebody last night who I'm friends with, who's an RTA syndicate. And, you know, she always is doing these good things for people, getting people hyped and this and that, but she's always kind of like,

you know, I could tell there's a struggle there. I could just see it. And so what I told her was like, Hey, look, just so you know, it's okay to get fucking sick of people sometimes,

even if you love them. I hope it is. Yeah, but I'm just saying, you don't have to always be so smiley and so fucking pretend to be so happy all the time. It's obvious that you really love this. And so what happens is, bro, is when you really love whatever it is that you do, you put all this energy into it and you want to be fucking perfect with it.

All right. So, like, for example, like if I'm standing in a summer smash and I've got a nine fucking hour long line, I've got to talk to everybody. There's no fucking way I can have a meaningful conversation with everybody. It's literally fucking impossible. But because I want to and I can't, it actually makes me feel like a fraud. You follow what I'm saying? So a lot of people who really care about being real and being authentic and being, you know, they actually care. Those people end up feeling like frauds because they can't be perfect at what they do. You feel what I'm saying?

Absolutely. So I've, the way I've overcame that is to understand, bro, we only got so much fucking energy. We only have so much. Like, and once it's gone,

it's fucking gone. Cause like, I'll get to the point where like, dude, my first fucking thing is like, Hey, it's awesome. You know? And the last one, I'm like, fuck, get the fuck out of here. You know? Like I go from all the way to here to here, but that's cause I wear myself out so bad. And so what people have to understand and like, dude, that's not something I'm proud of. I'm just saying it's the way it is. We only have so much energy so people have to understand that when you want to win real bad

you still ain't gonna be perfect that shouldn't make you feel like a fraud you know yeah speaking of that did you have you guys been keeping up with what's going on in the mlb recently with the uh buzzer scandal you think they're feeling like frauds right now who uh well i mean you don't know anything about this the buzzer scandal so they were they were really they were stealing signs right and underneath their jerseys they would wear these wired buzzer things right and they would be able to astros did yes holy shit so two coaches got fired beltron stepped down as the mets manager so it's big thing right now. So they have a fucking system. Yeah, and they're calling for the Houston Astros to give back their title

and give it to the Dodgers. What are your thoughts? Are you serious? I don't know that they should give back their titles, but they actually did a poll, and the pretty solid majority of the Astros fans actually think that they should be punished pretty severely. I don't know if they think they should give well yeah it's embarrassing like dude think of the

people of Houston they're fucking embarrassed well that's embarrassing like if that were the Cardinals I'd be like dude fucking that's fucking bullshit yeah well first things first I struggle with the imposter syndrome really bad so I I'm sitting back I'm like I have nothing value here to add and I'm like oh then I start yeah but it's very obvious to me why it's what I just said. No, no, I understand. But to your fucking point in this big league scandal, listen, it is such bullshit. They've been trying to steal fucking signs for the last fucking 150 years in baseball. And guess what?

They've successfully done so. Secondarily, Mariano Rivera threw one fucking pitch. It's called a cutter. You can't fucking hit it. He's the greatest fucking closer of all fucking time. And guess what? You knew it was coming. So thirdly, the Astros didn't just develop it in one year.

And in that year, they put people on the roster. They lose people off the roster, which means that those players went to other clubhouses, which also means that those players knew that that shit was going on, which likely means that they were fucking implementing a similar system into all of fucking baseball. Right, everybody's guilty. Everybody's fucking doing it. They knew it was fucking happening.

It's like the steroid thing. It's round two of the steroid thing. It's fucking bull. It's just like Spygate, too, with Patriots. Everybody's fucking taping it. They're all fucking doing it. They're just scapegoating on the Astros, and everybody else is shutting the fuck up.

The truth is. That's right. Nobody's coming out to fucking speak up, condemn them. Like CeCe Sabathia is like, oh, that's bullshit. They should give it back, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, the truth is- Yeah, well, the fact is, dude, how many motherfuckers do you think, if they were really the only ones doing it, they'd all be out condemning them hard.

Fuck yeah. They're not throwing any shade because they don't want that shit to turn on them. That's right. They're smart. They shut the fuck up. Same thing with steroids. That's why steroids got over fucking looked for fucking 30 years in the mlb you don't think it was cool that fucking mcguire was hitting 70 fucking home runs that's fucking awesome

year that's fucking awesome but i mean so so turn this in right like okay so here these here these fucking guys and they're all everybody's all pissed off because it ruins the fucking nature of the game well the nature of the game is the reason that you have signs, multiple signs, the catcher gives down multiple signs, because when somebody's on second base, they can't steal the sign. Yeah. I mean, they did that back in fucking, so it's the same thing. Now we've got a camera. Well, you'd have to be a dumb motherfucker to think that people aren't looking at the fucking signs trying to crack the code on a fucking camera.

If you had an opportunity to make $200 million. That's what I'm saying. But, dude, it's the same thing with the fucking steroid thing. Like, dude, they say, oh, well, fuck, dude. Well, you know, I can't believe these guys would. Okay, well, if you got fucking half the fucking league doing it and they're all getting paid and you have the opportunity to do it too

and get paid twice as much as what you're making, what the fuck are you going to do? And anybody who says they aren't is full of fucking shit. Well, not only that, what happens when all your friends are doing it? That's right. And they're looking at you and saying, what are you going to tell them? That's how it goes.

That's the code that's going down in baseball right now. That's right. And the other side of that, this is why I can't watch baseball in public settings. Well, it's not that. It's that you just can't listen to the game. Yeah, dude. Fucking A.

But, you know, if you were a hitter, okay, now you've got to understand, if they buzzed in fastball or they buzzed in curveball and they don't throw fastball or curveball, it only takes one or two times for that uncertainty to arise where you don't want to fucking – you trained yourself the entire career to just react to a fucking hit. You'd be second guessing every fucking every motherfucking time so i like i could see if they fucked it up once

i'm gonna take that fucking thing off me i just want to go back to fucking play like so there's there's a the media is drawing this motherfucker out to raise attention and the truth of the matter is is like where there's smoke there's fire but there's fire in all them fucking clubhouses dude that's the world now like dude, dude, that is the fucking world. Point your finger. Half the shit that all you motherfuckers get riled up about, you're fucking guilty of. And the reason you're getting riled up about it

is because you want the people close to you to think you're against it so they fucking don't find out that you did it, motherfucker. You think that we're not on to you? Come on. Dude, that's the truth. We tie in on, dude. That's the truth. We tied every mob movement. That's the truth. It's the truth. I want to know, like, I want to know me and fucking Tony Friedrich call it witness protection. So dude, it's witness protection. Like you fucking see something that someone did and you think that, and they're guilty and you

type in and say, fuck a shame on him. I'm never buying their shit again. Motherfucker, that's just so you look better to everybody else because you're fucking guilty. So why do you feel like an imposter? I don't know. You know, like, it's interesting because I know it's funny because, like, I feel I have a great deal

of world experience, especially at a young age. I've lived a lot of really cool lives, you know, like played professional sports, you you know like i have a decent sales career and you take a took a huge step back in the sense of like took the risk so like i have the risk factor in place so like i have a lot of life experience but then when you talk about it you're kind of like well i'm not there yet yeah wherever there is which i'll never get to which is the irony of the thing right so like where do i get off being able to help other people?

You know, and so then you start thinking, well, maybe I shouldn't. Then maybe I should. Maybe I'm doing it right. Maybe I'm fucking right. Bro, I— Maybe I'm giving bad fucking advice. Do you think it's because you have high standards? And to me, that's what I think.

I think that people like you who are kind of down on yourself sometimes, not that you're not confident, because I know you're confident, but when you're self-critical, it's because you have such high standards. You know you don't rise to those standards, and so that gap kind of creates a problem in your heart. Dude, I know that's true for me. You know? Yeah.

Yeah. 100% true for me. I'll tell you what has been, like, I mean, you guys know, you guys know that I'm really, I'm sensitive about that. Like, the worst thing that anybody could ever call me, I think, would be a hypocrite because I don't want to be a hypocrite. I think you guys are like that, too. But what has kind of helped me a little bit, and this is what's helped me kind of become more just at peace with who I am, is realizing that there is a difference between outright hypocrisy and simply just being human and being contradictory and falling short

of the the standards that you have for yourself because you're going to do that sometimes yeah i mean i i told my sales guys the other day like two things i won't be known for i will never be known as a fucking liar and i will never be known as a fucking hypocrite right but i think to i think where a lot of the downside comes in is you set a standard you don't achieve it you know you it's failure you know but like there's there is this piece a standard, you don't achieve it. You know, you, it's failure, you know, but like there's, there is this piece of failure. Like you never really fail. You learn, right. You know, and that's like a true, that's a true thing, but it's also true to fucking know that you didn't succeed. And then there's like an emotional regress to that, you know? So like being able to reset a standard, cause I think part of my, you know, at least I expect so

much of myself that I constantly, even if I sniff the standard, I reset a standard my, you know, at least I expect so much of myself that I constantly, even if I sniff the standard, I reset a standard and I sniff it and I reset it, you know, so that it constantly puts me in that chase game. Right. And so like part of that is in and of itself is underwhelming. Right. But then, you know, I always battle with myself. Would you rather be underwhelmed or overwhelmed? Well, and that's a good question, but I mean, I come back to like, you know, think about somebody like Nick Saban, right? I mean, who's going to argue with his record? And yet the last couple years he's fallen short of the championship.

Only a moron, only a total idiot would say, oh, yeah, he's a joke. Well, no, he's not a joke. He's one of the greatest, if not the greatest, college football coach who ever lived. But the last couple years he's just fallen short. He's just been inconsistent with his greatness. That doesn't make him a hypocrite. It just means that he's human and that he's fallible. I don't know. I think a lot of people who have the imposter syndrome, I think it's a result of having really high standards and being sensitive to your own weaknesses, but to me, that's rooted in humility. Right? Yeah, going back to Andrew's point,

when he talks about being in that quote-unquote entrepreneurial space for those people who are out giving lessons, in my brain, this is where I get real, because I don't like to judge people in a sense, even though it's natural, right? Naturally, if you say, oh, I don't judge people, you're a fucking liar.

Everybody judges. That's part of why you like people. We're judging you for saying that. Yeah, right. But I look at the entrepreneurial space and i always think in my head like that motherfucker's out there fucking telling people fucking this this this this and this and i'm sitting here thinking like fuck i'm fucking no more than that that that that and i'm thinking well i don't do it why don't i do it then you start thinking well maybe i'm not

he's not credible to do it i'm not credible to do it you know if i'm picking on him like am i look at the end of the day, your life speaks for itself. That's what I came to the conclusion of. I started to fucking look at my life and I started to think, OK, if I was fucking 22 years old and didn't know shit about business and you motherfuckers out there to think, you know, shit, 22, you fucking don't. All right. But I started thinking I looked around and i'm like man if i was 22 would i want to fucking listen to me and the answer was always yes that was truth and and and if you i think if you ask yourself that way sal it's going to make a lot more sense the reason that you fucking the reason you feel the way you do is because you're thinking of trying to educate

other people in your position and and educate other people in your position. And all the people in your position, they know the same amount as you do. And so you feel unqualified. So you're like, okay, well, I'm not, but you're not talking to people like me. You're not talking to other business owners that are at your level. You're talking to people who aspire to be like that, which automatically makes you qualified. And that's what you have to understand.

That's why I got over it. We're doing the MFCO project. You know, like, dude, I have friends that are fucking way more successful than fucking I am. I have not many, but that's just the truth. Now, I so what? So now he's the only one because he's the only one i know that's more successful he's more no in fact he might not even be more qualified because who knows where the fuck he started at here's what i know i started out like most people start from the fucking dollar zero the hardest

part is to go from zero to one million dollars in your business that's it the rest is just scaling the shit out if you can get to a million you probably got some good things going that's the truth then you got to amplify it it's real simple so i thought well okay i've got some shit to share i have some life experience i've fucking done a few things and i don't see anybody else out there more qualified like literally i don't like i look around social media i'm like yeah none of you motherfuckers like not any of you that's how i feel right that's how you should feel too because the guys that are out there with big followings most of them are fucking lying that's the truth they're lying they're half of their story is half of their story is made to fuck up our story not 100 yeah but i I think, so to speak to your confidence,

but for me personally, that's where my confidence does come in because, like, I know what looks back at me in the mirror. That's right. I'm super, like, that I'm very proud of, and I'm very, like, I'm very real with that, you know? So, but that balancing act of those two, like, I mean, you see it. Like, you know, I struggle with that piece. It's like.

No, bro, people want to hear what you had to say. Yeah. And it helps them. For sure. So, you know, it's interesting, bro, because want to hear what you have to say. Yeah. And it helps them. For sure. So, you know, it's interesting, bro, because I, you know, you wrote a blog about this. You've kind of talked. You and I had a conversation about this. But on the subject of authenticity, there's an accusation that you get a number of times.

I would love to talk about it for a few minutes on the podcast here. But it's the, oh, Andy, you always talk like you have something to prove. Let's talk about that a little bit because you and I

interacted about that. Yeah. You got this the other day, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because to me, that directly pertains

to this whole issue of authenticity. If you don't have anything to prove, your life probably fucking sucks yeah that's the truth you're probably making and dude you motherfuckers gonna get mad about hearing this you're listening to it right now and you think i've got nothing to prove i guarantee you make average money at best you live a regular life like everybody else you do everything else

everybody else does where you eat or your vacation you do, it's all the same. Guaranteed. And you might be happy with that. And that's okay too. But for people that want to achieve more and shit and become something else and they value who they become and the journey and the process of growth, you're fucking right, I got shit to prove. A whole lot.

And I ain't never going to stop. And so a lot of you motherfuckers say that shit and you're so stupid and unaware you don't understand that yeah um that's what you're supposed to be you're supposed to have things to prove you're supposed to have and not to everybody else to yourself right that's the point like when i say like and that's what people don't understand about the messages on Instagram. 98% of that shit, I substitute the words me with you. Get it? Right. Everybody does that.

I just admit to it. I'm talking to myself, motherfuckers. So, yeah, I got shit to prove. Don't be surprised by it. I got to have a whole lot more shit to prove, which is why I'm going to keep fucking winning. In every area of my life. I got shit to prove every day, every fucking day. I purposely set my life up to prove to myself every day. This is why shit, this is why my life sort of looks a little bit different than most people's lives. So fuck yeah, I got shit to prove.

I'm proud of it too, but I ain't proving nothing to you. Proving it to me. I just don't get it because I think it makes total sense to want to follow to somebody who has something to prove. Like if I'm going into battle, who do I want to follow into battle? The guy that says, I don't really care what people think. I feel no obligation

to do well. Or the guy says, yeah, we're going into battle and I got to prove myself a really amazing leader. Same thing with the coach. Same thing with the president of the United States. I want to follow somebody. We're going to fucking win, motherfucker. And I'm going to prove to you that I'm an amazing leader.

Like, why would you not want to? I just don't get it. It's like I said to you. Yeah, but why would you not want to live that way yourself? I don't know either. Like, bro, that's an exciting way to live. Yeah. Like, it brings you passion.

It brings you drive. It brings you energy, shit intensity that other people don't have. You motherfuckers see it as, like, something that's negative. Bro, you know how fucking alive I feel? You know how fucking good I feel every day because I have that in me? It's the times I don't have that in me that fucking hurt. It's the times that I don't have intensity and I don't have passion and I don't have will and I don't have drive. Those are the times that I don't have intensity and I don't have passion and I don't have will and I don't have drive.

Those are the times that fucking hurt. And all that shit comes from having to prove something to me. It doesn't come from needing claps or likes or comments or shares or fucking any of this shit or money. It comes from what I'm telling myself I am. Am I what I tell myself I am? And I prove it every fucking day to myself. Are you the real deal? That's right.

That's how you feel good about yourself? Yes. Yeah, for sure. So the problem, you motherfuckers who write this shit about having something to prove, your whole entire issue, you just told me about. You don't have anything to prove. You think that saying, I don't have anything to prove is somehow some noble comment or like some, you know, I'm super confident. No, you're not.

You're a fucking sheep. You're a fucking sheep. People who say that shit are fucking sheep. If you look at their lives and it looks like everybody else's lives and they say that shit, they're either highly unaware, they're okay with being like everybody else, which is fine, or they're a fucking sheep and they're saying it because they think that's what you're supposed to say to sound fucking cool. Well, speaking of something to prove, the Chiefs will have something to prove here in about two weeks, right? Because the Chiefs, the Kansas City Chiefs, are in the Super Bowl for the first time since,

do you know? 1970. 1970. Who did they since, do you know? 1970. 1970. Who did they beat, by the way? They didn't beat anybody. They lost the Packers. No, they lost the Packers in the first. I just looked this up.

Tyler, you can check it. But the last time they actually won in 1970, they beat the Minnesota Vikings. Typically, when you look up facts, you might want to make sure that they're facts. Well, look it up, because I'm pretty sure they won in 1970. I thought they lost to the Packers. Didn't they get it? They did, yeah. Yeah, they lost to the Packers.

They've only won one Super Bowl. I didn't realize that they won a Super Bowl. Well, let's put it this way. The last time they were in a Super Bowl, and Tyler, you can... That was 1970 for sure. January 11, 1970. Did they win? When the Chiefs topped the Minnesota Vikings for the first time and only time.

Okay. I didn't know that. In 1917, excuse me, 1970. 1917, by the way, is an incredible movie. But 1970, gas was $0.34 a gallon. The average income was $9,600. Apollo 13 crisis was actually in 1913. God, I can't talk today.

1970, Houston, we have a problem. Interestingly enough, 1970 was also the last time that Australia had its worst fires to date. No shit. That's a weird parallel. Yeah, yeah. 75 died and 800 were injured in 1970. I'm sure the fires this year are far worse. Well, I would think so, but I don't know.

That shit is heartbreaking. How many have died in the current fire, Tyler? Well, we'll find that out. I haven't heard a lot about it lately. Is it because it fucking got better? Dude, and all the rains that they had, too. I'm asking, is it because the media fucking decided it wasn't a cool story anymore, or is it because it actually got better? I'm just not sure. Yeah, I don't know media fucking decided it wasn't a cool story anymore or is it because

it actually got better? I'm just not sure. Yeah, I don't know either. Well, it got a lot better. Did it? Yeah, they started going out but also with the rains that they had. They're getting rain? Oh, dude, they're getting fucking baseball-sized hail down there right now. Good. Like really weird weather. Good. I got a lot of peeps down there,

man. A lot of good people down there in Australia. Definitely. So here's my totally superfluous question. If you were sent back to time in 1970s with literally nothing, no wallet, no ID, nothing, and you were told you could never get back to the present day, what life would you try to build for yourself? What would you do? Would you completely reinvent yourself? Do you get to know what the fuck you know now?

Invest in Microsoft. Yeah, you know everything. But you just, I mean, you can't prove to everybody you know everything. Like, you don't have an almanac. No, I wouldn't want to prove it. I would want to keep it secret. Okay. Just fucking use it to my advantage.

So, like, what would you do? In theory. You know, go back, 1970. You don't have money. Wait, wait, wait. All right. So, do you know what, like, do I know what I know? Yes, you know everything now.

Or do I have access to, like, Google shit in 1970? You have everything now, but you don't have an ID, so you're going to have to figure out how to create an ID for yourself. Do I have a fucking phone that tells me shit? You don't have a phone, and you don't have money of any sort. Most people would be completely fucked. Yeah. All right, not me, though.

Okay, so what would you do? Well, I don't know exactly, but I'm going to tell you, I know how to build a business without the fucking internet. Most people don't. Well, that's true. So 1970, what business would you start? Well, considering I know the most about the business that I'm in, I would probably figure out how to fucking get way ahead of that. Do you think people would have been accepting of supplements in 1970?

Vaughn, I don't know. But I tell you this. I don't know. Joe Eater. I think I would figure out how to make them acceptable. That's what I would do. Would you stay in the same business because dude you got to understand um i would be then instead of somebody who knows a lot of shit that a lot of other people know as well i would be the only motherfucker that knew this shit okay so you

wouldn't be like looking up steve jobs and trying to like look man i don't yeah i would if i like when he when he started doing his thing i'd fucking figure out how to be by his garage. And I'd say, take some of this vitamin money, motherfucker, and go do your shit. I mean, I guess if you knew everything, I'd be moving to Cupertino or whatever that fucking automatic default fucking weather app is on Apple. And I'd be like, hey, anybody know Steve?

Yeah. So here's the question. Anybody know that motherfucker where Steve Jobs is? Where's that turtleneck? Here's the question for Sal. Dude, for real though, that's how I would do it. I would do, because he didn't come around

until like the mid-70s, like that whole thing. So like what I would do is, I would, because I would still do the business thing. I just like business. Yeah. So it would be,

it would be fun though because there's, you know, you don't have the advantage of, like dude, I kind of like the fact that I know how to do it without the internet.

Yeah. It gives me such an advantage over people that fucking only know the internet yeah they just don't fucking get it and so like it would be awesome for me if the internet just went away like the rest of you motherfuckers would be fucked like that's the truth but um i would just do that man i would do exactly what i'm doing dude i would have a. I would figure out how to get an afro. Because my hair's kind of like afro-y. Yeah, yeah. But if I could get a full afro, that'd be fucking sick. I'd rock that all the time.

So here's a question for Sal. Without an almanac. Is there an argument to that? No, I don't think so. The other thing, too, is I would try to get real skinny. Because everybody in the 70s was real skinny. Yeah, that's true. And I wanted to look cool in their clothes.

Would you wear bell-bottoms? Fuck yeah, dude. I'd have a fucking Afro. I'd have a van with fur and a fucking... Shag carpet. Yeah, shag carpet. It would have one of them teardrop fucking windows on the side. It would have a mural of the Lone Ranger with Tonto,

and they'd be there on the side of the van. Imagine having your Chevelle that you have now back then. Bro, they would go with me everywhere I went. Would you get a station wagon with the paneling on the side? No, I just told you I drive a fucking van, bro. Would you, Sal, without an almanac? Be a family truckster, you'd be in? I'd be grand wagoneering.

Without an almanac, would you know, if you lived back in the 1970s, would you know every year would you be able to remember who won the World Series and be able to bet on that? Right now? Right now. Like if you went back and like starting with 1970, I wouldn't know until about 90s. You know what I would do, though?

You would know enough about who would, because I would too. I would know enough about who was good in the 70s and who the good players were, because I know that sport. You make an educated guess. That if they got to a point where it was just two final teams, I would win more than I lost. Yeah, I think I would too. Because all the legends and all the things I've heard, I'd be able to put them together. Yeah.

Yeah, that'd be cool, dude. If anybody could figure out how to make that happen, I'd be down. I could for sure do that with the Final Four. Yeah, for sure I could do that. That'd be pretty cool. Okay, so. I would prefer to live pre-internet completely. If I could do anything, I think I'd when I say anything, no internet, I would definitely be in a construction trade.

Really? Oh, fuck, dude. That's yeah. I like it. I understand it. We grew up in it. I enjoy it. I appreciate it.

And there's tons of opportunity especially back then compared to now yeah I just think knowing and understanding like dude think of all think of all the shit that is built

like dude if we could go back and be like right here in St. Louis we'd know where everything went like we'd be like oh well this is where this is gonna be

well let's fucking build it yeah be smart dude I know I'd be buying fucking 25 acres next to me I know I know shit dude I can tell you the other thing i would do is i'd go up there and fucking uh vancouver

dude vancouver fucking beautiful place by the way for you vancouver people really liked it a lot vancouverans yeah vancouverans i like you guys yeah so but i learned because I had this uh driver in Canada this motherfucker knew everything like every fact about Vancouver every he knew every motherfucking tree bro we're like driving up the the fucking the what's it called the sea to the sky highway we're driving up and he's like and that's the tree I got laid in her first time like dude this motherfucker knew fucking ever finally because it was just me and emily and the two security guys in the truck i just started asking him random shit dude i was like i started asking him you know like hey man you say you're into cars like what do you know about this and because i because i

knew about cars so i fucking wanted to see if he really knew shit or if he was totally full this motherfucker knew like he fucking knew like when i started talking cars the guy oh dude this guy was the guy anyway he was telling us about how in uh once you go over the bridge of vancouver as you're going up the mountains that a big part of the development up there was bought by the family that owned Guinness. And that the family that owned Guinness actually made some crate. They bought the whole side of this city for $1 million,

and then they're still developing it today. Wow. It's been some crazy amount of time. So I would know about those plays. You know what I mean? Real estate. Prime real estate, you know, I would know about those plays. You know what I mean? Real estate, prime real estate. I mean, when you think about, yeah, I mean, real estate's the game, right? They don't make more of it.

You're right, dude. I would only sell vitamins long enough to bring the cash to the point to do that. Yeah. I had a couple apartments downtown in Manhattan. Yeah, for sure. So, guys. Seemed to work well for Trump. We have a. Hold up. By the way, the That doesn't seem to work well for Trump. We have a-

Hold up, by the way, the death toll right now is 27 down in Australia. 27? 27. So more people died in 1970. Three times as much. Yeah, but they also didn't have the technology to fucking save people like they do now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it killed 75.

Yeah. Probably a lot less populated too, obviously. Well, maybe not. Well, yeah. So we have a confused AF question, and that's actually a pretty good question. I thought we'd – this is one of our listeners. It says, hey, guys, love the new podcast so far. Makes me feel like I'm back in the locker room with the boys during my pro hockey days just shooting the poop.

The team here at Conquest Hockey would love to hear your thoughts on participation medals in sports and how we address those who don't understand why they're bad. This is James at Conquest Hockey. Is this due to coach? Let me look here. Conquest Hockey looks like it's an apparel premium hockey athletic wear for those who work for what they want. Man, that's like a $10,000 shout out right there. No shit, bro.

You just fucking gave me 10 grand worth of free shit. You can pay me later, James. You know what? He can have it. That's what you get when you fucking interact with the show. You get a free shout. That's right. So here's how I would fucking address this issue.

There's a first place medal. There's a second place medal. And then there's a first place medal, there's a second place medal, and then there's a third place medal. And if you aren't in those first three places, you don't get shit. And that's the way life works. It's real simple. That's the way it works. And in fact, in real life, if you don't get the fucking first or second place,

you're probably not doing that good at all. So, you know, sometimes you're going to lose, but you should be right up there in that conversation of one and two. I don't know. You know, I would argue that I think three is a player. Okay. Do you know why? Well, yeah, I do know why.

Well, here's why I would say three is a player, is because three could fly under the radar a little bit over one and two and kind of like work, let them take the heat, and then innovate off of that. That's what we did at our companies. Well, I mean, if you're – Like, I always watch the players, and then I see what they're doing, and then I say, okay, how can we take this and make it better, and we go fucking do it. Because if you get third, that means you go out on a win.

You had to win to get the third place trophy. Yeah. Two is a loser. One's a winner. So one and win to get the third place trophy. Two's a loser. One's a winner. So one and three are technically the winners. Sort of. I mean, I see the argument. Like, that's a relative argument.

I don't disagree. But I definitely don't think anything past that is relative recognizing. No. Like, in those recognition times, just for you parents out there, those are the times when you have a talk with your kid and you say, hey, you're not going to win every fucking time, bro. Like, if you want to not feel like shit, like I know you feel right now, guess what?

We're going to have to do a little extra work. You're going to have to run a little bit more. You're going to have to throw a little bit more baseballs. You're going to have to hit a little bit more batting practice. Okay? That's what our dad taught us. We never got fucking shit when we lost. And you know what we...

But here was the difference. He was also willing to go out in the fucking yard and catch a fucking thousand pitches or throw a thousand pitches or fucking... You know what I'm saying? A million. Dude, Sal and I spent more time

in baseball batting cage and playing fucking..., practicing in our yard, then I promise you 99% of the world practices fucking anything. Okay, and guess what? Neither one of us made it to the big leagues. But we learned a lot. And the problem with this whole scenario right now is that we have a bunch of fucking lazy parents who don't want to do the work with their kids.

So instead of actually having those talks and then going out and working with their kids, what they're doing is, I don't want to play at this organization if they're not going to recognize little Tommy for at least doing blah, blah, blah. No, motherfucker. Tell me how in life you get rewarded by participating. I can't think of a scenario. Well, and i actually would say that it's even it's even counterproductive in a sense like i mean i would say like there's

personal quests that participation matters for example if you run a marathon i think participating in a marathon and completing it is a very noble fucking thing an iron man or any of these feats that we see like guys like goggin do goggins doing, by the way, David Goggins is a fucking stud in real life. You know, I can't think of a scenario in real life when it comes to making money where participation matters. I just can't. Yeah, I mean, it's counterproductive.

The only thing that participation would matter in is being a part of a team. Understanding that you have to know your role. I agree with that 100%. But I think losses to me are way more important than wins. And I think recognizing and teaching your kids about losing

and getting back in the game and what it takes to learn from your mistakes is much more powerful than even the feeling of a win, the strategy of a win. Bro, it's everything. It's fucking everything. But I think... Everything that every successful,

like what I would consider successful person, every fucking thing that makes them them, they learn from getting punched in the fucking mouth by life. Yeah. But I mean, I think that you can you can inhibit that as at a young age by having a conversation. OK, you lost. Why'd you lose? OK, it teaches you a valuable lesson in life as you, because you're going to lose a lot more than you win. When you lose, instead of fucking taking your ball and running home and crying, like, all right, let's analyze this. Take a look at it. All right, what did we come with? How can we make it better?

And then go reattack the fucking game, right? And I think by offering a participation trophy, you're rewarding them, saying, oh, you did a good job. But the truth is you didn't. No, parents want the fucking participation so they don't have to do the fucking work they don't want to do the work they want to sit their kid in front of a fucking playstation and set them there i purposely don't have tablets for my kids for that reason but that's yeah that's that's you that's not most people no no i understand but i'm saying like that that's why your kids will fucking run shit

well but i i think you know a lot of parents are and this is a this is a society problem in general, you know, and I see why. Because, you know, you have to have a tough conversation with someone you love, you know, but if you can teach your your children, you know, and have a good conversation with them. Hey, you lost. And I'm going to show you why you why you failed. Why? Why did you fucking fail? And they're afraid to have the tough conversation because the tough conversation is not popular in our world.

No, dude. And they don't want to see their kid cry and shit. Dude, if your kid gets mad when they lose, that's the greatest fucking thing ever. Like, you got a fucking winner there. Dude, we used to break our second place trophies. Well, no, but then you got to retool. Okay, why'd you lose? You still got to have it.

You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, the competitive drive. So here's what happens. The kids fucking throw a fit when they lose. The parent says, I don't want to deal with this kid's fit, so you should give him a fucking trophy, when in reality, the fucking parent should recognize that kid hates to fucking lose.

Holy shit, dude, we got a fucking winner here. You see what I'm saying? Dude, what did Peyton Manning say whenever I fucking interviewed him in Canada a week ago? Does he love to win or does he hate to fucking lose? Hates to lose. Hates to lose. It's the

truth. All you motherfuckers out there that say, oh, I love to win, that's what you're fucking lying. Hating to lose is the greatest fucking motivation and the greatest skill you could ever fucking have in your life. And parents take it from kids by teaching them to be fucking supplicating little fucking bitches and say, can I please have a participation trophy? No, you didn't fucking earn it. That's a, that's the fault of the parent. The parents are recognizing your kid probably has

what it takes to fucking blow your life out of the water you're just too fucking lazy to fucking work with it that's sad it's sad as fuck dude well i think for me you know it always comes down to you know like the business equivalent is people don't value what they don't pay for and i'm coming from at it from a little different from you guys in that i didn't have a speck of athletic talent growing up and so if anybody was going to be you know positive about a participation trophy it would have been me and yet so in in grade school we didn't have to quote-unquote make the team and so I had fun but I wasn't super invested once we got in junior high it was kind of a shock to my system because you had to actually make the team. And I went out for soccer and lo and behold, I made it. Well, guess what? I worked

harder because I valued the fact that I made it. So it's not the same as like participation, but I think it comes down to everything. When you have to work for something, you're going to value it way more. And so I think giving everybody a participation trophy just basically says you're getting rewarded just for showing up. And to me, that's not a good principle. Where in life does that happen? Right. Where in life does that happen?

Planet Fitness. Yeah. And, again, back to your point, Andy, it's wanting to – it's this really misguided – dude, I've been cut by teams. Pretty much most of the teams I went out for, I was cut by. It sucks. It feels terrible. But my parents didn't shield me from that. They didn't go to the coach and be like, hey, you should have let him on the team. You just have to learn to deal with that disappointment. Now, in my life, it kind of was a clarifying thing because I think had it really been important to me, I would have worked harder and I would have pursued making the team.

But I think to your point, we just have to let kids experience disappointment. We just have to because that's life. And when you experience disappointment, it clarifies whether you really want it or not. And then you decide, okay, well, I really didn't want this. So this disappointed appointment, like steered me a different direction, or I really do want this and I'm going to work harder to get it. There is a, a letter that I think that to me is one of the most valuable lessons from a parent in sport that Mike Matheny, the former manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, current manager of the Kansas City Royals, somebody who I looked up to a great deal when

I played, not only as a man, but as a husband, as a father, as a leader. I was a bad motherfucker, man. He was cool. And he was very, very humble. But he wrote a letter. He coaches kids in Little League baseball. And he wrote a letter to the parents. And it was more about teaching them how to be men and win at life

than it was necessarily about just winning at the game of baseball and focus on building systems. And he wants them to be fans of their kids silently, but have the kids learn to play together, be as a team, suffer together. And you know what? They may not play. They may not play the position you want them to. We might not win, but we're going to follow a system. We are going to fucking learn discipline. We are going to learn how to fucking execute a system

because I want to teach your little boys how to be fucking men. And I promise you, if you're a parent and you have kids in sport, the letter that Mike Matheny wrote to his parents and his baseball team, I think, is one of the most valuable fucking lessons that you can read, and it will fucking help you understand truly what developmental fucking skills are learned through fucking playing a sport and being a parent.

Well, that actually transitions really nicely into my next point, which is this is kind of the time where I wanted you guys to give basic recommendations. I call them fortune cookies and stocking stuffers. So my question was going to be, how about giving a book recommendation of something you've read lately? Would it be Mike's book? You know what?

I actually have not read Mike's book. I bought it. I never got into it. I think the book recommendation that I led off with, David Bach wrote this book, The Automatic Millionaire. It's a great book. I read it in my 20s, and I think it's created a lot for me, my financial structure, which has led to a lot of independence in the sense of just understanding money and how to treat yourself. And so if I were giving somebody, especially somebody young, or really even somebody who struggles with how to

balance a budget, David Bach, he writes a book, it's called The Automatic Millionaire. I literally watched it on Good Morning America fucking when I was like 21 years old. And I'm telling you right now, I've sold more copies of that book than he probably fucking sold of himself. That's awesome. Probably because I bought them.

Andy, what about you? You got any, what are you reading lately? For sure. I got an awesome book I'm reading by a good friend of mine who I think is the premier leadership expert on the planet right now, Jocko Willink. Great, great, great man.

Super intelligent, especially when it comes to how to create leadership. He just came out with an awesome book, Leadership Strategy and Tactics. It's on Amazon. I'm looking at it right now. It's a little green book for you guys who can't read and you just want to see colors and shit. It's a little green book. I'm probably three-quarters

of the way through it. As seasoned of a leader as I am in business, I still picked up a shitload of valuable info out of it. I'm a halfway through it and it's fucking good. Yeah. He's a stud. And he's great about, he's so great about telling the experiences of how he learned his lessons.

It's what makes his fucking books so good. Yeah, because he'll tell you, you know, this like in chapter two and he's like, we raided the oil rig in practice. Yeah, yeah. Detached leadership. You know what I mean? I listen to his, but I love that book. So his first two books that are popular, um,

the dichotomy of leadership and then, uh, extreme ownership, extreme ownership, fucking amazing books. This book is more like, how the fuck do I implement this shit into my life? Right.

And that's, what's so cool about it because a lot of people understand the concepts, um, but they don't understand how to execute. And this is about that. And so if you're a leader of any sort, which you are by default, if you're a dad and you have a wife, if you're a if you're a husband and a wife, if you're in a fucking relationship, if you're this or that, there's times when people are going to look to you to lead. This is a great book for everybody to read, period. So that's that's my book.

Go buy Jocko's book. It's fucking amazing. All right. Well, I think Tyler's going to enter. Yeah. Now it's time for dumbest motherfucker in all the land. Oh, that means we're getting to the end of the show. Yes, sir.

We're going to close the show. Did you guys hear with Odell Beckham? What happened with him lately in the LSU locker room? No. All right. Well, video surfaced last week showing Beckham slapping the buttocks. This is in the article. Vaughn didn't write this.

The buttocks of a Superdome security guard in the LSU locker room after the Tigers' national championship victory over Clemson. Simple battery charge can include a fine of no more than $1,000 or imprisonment. Guy or girl? Oh, this was a guy cop. Oh wait what yes i mean if you watch the video he apparently also he was handing out money to obviously which is a big no-no to uh ncaa athletes but uh the video surfaced and he runs up to the officer and just he slaps him pretty fucking good too now this is like in the heat of the moment like they just won they just won

they're in the locker room they're having fun but i think the issue like you can't hear what is said but the issue arised after he slapped him the officer then looked back at odell and he was like kind of egging him on like in a cocky way like you can't do shit kind of thing and so the officer pressed charges he was actually i'm gonna watch the video here so where is this oh right here huh wait wait wait so he's gonna go to jail over this or get pressed charges over that no well there was an arrest warrant in the what was it it, Medot, like, a couple days ago where they-

I mean, it looked like he was being kind of an asshole. Yeah, he was definitely being an asshole. So this wasn't a case where he was just caught up in the moment and was slapping his butt, kind of like celebratory. No, it kind of looks like in the video, like he's being a dick. Yeah.

Like, it wasn't like, hey, like, you run up behind someone, like, we fucking won, smack him, like, that wasn't like that. It was like he was, it looked like he fucking want smack it wasn't like that it looked like he was taunting the cop behind his back and then got his attention by smacking his ass and by the way that's fucking stupid

so just out of curiosity I regressed my earlier statement me too he's a fucking idiot he's an ass like dude he was taunting the cop behind his back. Look, was he drunk? It wasn't some plate.

No, it was just. I don't know. But those motherfuckers protect you. Those motherfuckers don't get paid well to do what they do for you, motherfucker. Especially for you to fucking treat him like. Yeah. No. Fuck that.

That dude. Like a pawn. That's bad. Like, I don't know what they should do, but he's a stupid motherfucker. Apparently the charges were dropped. on that's bad like i don't know what they should do but he's a stupid motherfucker apparently the charges were dropped i don't think charges should have been filed on it either no it's kind of ridiculous charge yeah but it's like hey he should you know you look like a fucking dickhead don't do that shit well and going back to the money aspect of it because obviously you're not supposed to do

that uh initial information from an lsu spokesperson suggested that the bills exchanged were fake novelty bills which that sounds suspicious as hell right there lsu football covering up there no shit novelty bills yeah that's probably what they paid him well i don't know i mean you had to be a stupid well i don't know he just i mean taunted lsu quarterback quarterback Joe Burrow said the cash was real. Well, it's probably real. So, look, man. If you're fucking with cops, you're generally a piece of shit. I don't give a fuck what you think.

Dude, we had a guy email. Especially taunting them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Dude, are there bad cops? Fucking right there's bad cops. But most of them aren't. 10,000'm saying. That's dumb shit. Dude, are there bad cops? Fucking right there's bad cops, but most of them aren't. 10,000 to one. That's right.

Most of them are great fucking people that care about your livelihood. And have you had an injustice from a police? Maybe. I have, and I still know they're good. And you know what the truth is? When I got fucked up by a cop, guess what? Part of me deserved it. And by part of him, he means all of them. Well, no.

No, actually, not true. I would say if I did. It wasn't. of me deserved it and by part of them it means all of them well no no actually not true i would say if i did it wasn't but the situation was so volatile i could understand why they would have handled it that way so like you have to be able to take responsibility for your own fucking actions and say okay um i probably should just let them do their job and i probably should have got the fuck away from them and let them do it instead Instead, I got too close and I got fucking handled. Okay. That's reality. You know, so I don't, I don't really give a fuck what people say. 99.9% of the police officers out there deserve your motherfucking respect. And the ones that don't, you'll learn who the fuck they are to say, Oh dude, police are bad.

Fuck the police. No, I like police are bad. Fuck the police. No, I like the rap song. Fuck the police. I don't fucking think it's a good I don't think it's a good motto, you know. So it is what it is, man. That guy's a dumb fuck. He's a fucking guy who got a lot of money because he fucking could run fast and catch a fucking football. And nobody ever taught him to have respect for people.

That's really what it looks like. He should have paid attention in the second grade. That's yeah, that's right. That's what that looks like to me. He should have paid attention in the second grade. Yeah, that's right. That's what that looks like to me. Do you agree? That's an asshole move. Okay, I agree. And speaking of the NFL players getting in trouble, did you guys hear about Julian Edelman?

No. He got drunk in Malibu and started jumping on a Mercedes Benz hood. That's stupid, too. He got arrested. Yeah, well, he should. But the funny thing is Tom Brady was seen cracking jokes on his IG story because he's got like some electrolytes, like TV12 electrolytes. And he said, quote, Edelman, it sounds like you may need some of this.

Hey, locker room humor, man. You earned it, man. Hey, I would fucking throw that jab. Hey, look, dude, that's a dick move. Have we done, have all of us got drunk and done stupid shit? Fucking right. That's what happens when you get fucked up. That's what happens when Andrew shits on the towel.

Oh, full circle. Oh, here it comes. Well, before Andy wraps it up, Sal, final word. I didn't wrap it up. That's why I had three kids. That's good advice. If you don't want three kids, fucking wrap it up. Look, man.

Dude, you talked about being authentic. Understand that authenticity is sharing what the fuck you are and who you are without the reason the reservation of trying to create a certain character it's a very fine line to walk because it feels good to get people's approval and it feels good to fucking have people like you and it feels good to get likes and comments and shares and all that shit smart right Like that's good business too. A lot of you are probably thinking, but the truth is you're going to be very unhappy

if you're trying to create a character that isn't you and people think it's you, all right? This is a big reason why I changed up gears from the MFCEO. I started to feel like a character that wasn't fucking who I am and that's evident by the way that you guys fucking come at me and you say, oh, I didn't realize you had a sense of humor. Well, yeah, it's a little bit different whenever I'm trying to teach you some shit. I'm not going to come up there and make jokes.

So my thing is, is understand that vulnerability and all these buzzwords you hear there, they are authentic, but that's not what makes you authentic. It's a piece of being authentic. So try to not be inauthentic. That'd be a fun one.