REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 819. Q&AF: Handling Test Days, Business Relationships Gone Wrong & When To Start Enjoying Life
Episode Date: December 2, 2024On today's episode, Andy answers your questions on what mentality you need to develop when you feel all your days are “test days”, how to keep moving ahead when you feel stuck because of a busines...s relationship gone wrong, and when should you start “enjoying life” on the journey to accomplish your big dreams.
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All right, what's up, dude?
What's Gucci gang?
Nothing, man.
Yeah? You look nice. Oh, thanks, man
You know nice what me? Yeah this whole thing
What's going on that was your weekend fucking cold yeah, dude, yeah, I forgot that it was supposed to snow I didn't think it was
No idea about it at all, bro. I haven't been doing you know any outdoor cardio for probably I don't know a couple months I
Went outside and I was like fuck this is cold and then I was like oh man
I got to start going outside again. Gotta do it. I yeah cuz I'm starting to get soft bro. I can feel it
Yeah, it's different. It's fucking different. Yeah, I got it.
Dude, I was like, I caught myself running
from the garage to my house, and I'm like, fuck, dude.
Doing the oh shit skirt?
You're turning into a bitch.
Yeah, so I gotta get back on that outdoor.
Yeah, I'm gonna start a, you know,
I'm gonna start 75 hard on the first with everybody,
because I know there's always, you know,
thousands and thousands and thousands of people that start on the first, everybody because I know there's always thousands and thousands
and thousands of people that start on the first,
but I think I'm gonna get a good 30 day run going up
so that way I got some momentum.
I live that way anyway for the most part.
I just haven't done the outdoor cardio in a while.
It's been a minute, man.
Well, I mean, shit, the winter is definitely
a good time to get hard.
Yeah, no shit. Especially here, man.
But yeah, it's Monday, man. Winter's not a good time to get hard. Yeah, no, she's actually here man. Yeah, but yeah, it's Monday man
It's not a good time to get what huh, huh?
Nothing. I was trying to keep the show g-rated. Oh gotcha. Yeah gotcha
Yep
Guys, it's Monday. Let's uh, that's uh, let's get into these man. I got three good ones for you guys
Andy question number one. This is actually a great question going right off the convo. Hi Andy.
I was curious if you've ever gone through
a final test phase prior to reaching big milestones
in your life, such as a giant windfall of money,
or a nice car, et cetera.
I personally call this the final test
as you're not being only tested in a few areas of life like
only money or health or personal life car issues this test is all-encompassing
everything going wrong in your life at the same time money problems personal
problems health problems people problems car problems life testing your patients
to the absolute extreme while enduring the lack of money to pay bills and cars
and repairs and all of that good stuff.
I'm personally enduring this right now,
all at the same time,
and I'm aware that I can't give up in this phase.
I'm running with the zero options mentality.
You talk about all in or nothing.
I was genuinely curious if you've gone through this type
of all-encompassing test
and what you did to personally overcome it.
I love the show.
You and DJ Crush every day. Thanks for keeping it real as fuck out there.
So big, big milestones with a massive test right before it.
Well, first of all, how do you know a big milestones coming? You don't ever know. So
you don't know if the test is right before it. But there is sayings that have been around
for thousands of years, one of them being,
it is always darkest before the dawn.
Everybody knows that, everybody's heard that.
And I think most people have experienced it.
So the chances of a big breakthrough or a big milestone
are in the favor of when you are being tested most
that you're going to come through.
Now I don't know if that's because the universe lines it up that way or if it just feels that
way because you're going through so much hard stuff that when something goes right, it feels
really good.
You know what I'm saying?
So you know, to answer your question, dude, yes, everybody goes through this.
Okay.
It is not just you.
These hard times, these times where you're struggling, these times when you're angry,
these times when you're frustrated, these are not exclusive to you.
And people who think they're exclusive to them suffer from a massive arrogance problem.
They believe that they are the only person that suffers, the only
person that has hardship, the only person that has to push through when in reality every
single achiever that's ever existed, every single thing that's ever been built has been
built by somebody who's gone through this process of everything going wrong at some
point and we can look through history at all the
amazing people who have done the most amazing things and right before they did
this amazing thing that you know them for they went through some really hard
shit okay so the first thing we got to understand is that you are not the
center of the universe you will go through these tests these tests will not just come at one point in your life.
They will come over and over and over and over again.
And after you've matured and been through them enough, you don't panic anymore.
Okay. And what you can do is to train yourself to become someone
who relishes being in the hard shit because you understand
that everybody else quits when things get hard.
When things get hard, it is simply this one foot in front of another, in front of another,
in front of another.
Okay.
That is the only way to keep moving forward.
It's the only way to continue to progress when things
are hard. And it's very simple, but people don't like simple people like extreme and
fun and exciting and these instant gratification, you know, situations and dude, life is just
not like that. Okay. Life is hard. Success is hard.
Business is hard.
Being married is hard.
Having a family is hard.
Doing anything that anybody would admire is hard.
When things get the hardest, that is the most important time where you have to continue
to move forward, putting one foot down in front of another.
This is why it's so important to make investments in your mental toughness and your grit and your fortitude and your ability to
Persevere and your ability to stay disciplined because conditions will never be perfect
Okay, when we talk about it being freezing cold outside
And I'm talking about how I know that I need to go get acclimated to that because I can feel myself getting soft.
That is me recognizing that my mental fortitude is getting rounded off when it
needs to be very sharp. Okay?
So we have to become aware of where we are mentally and we have to make
investments to harden ourselves mentally so that we can prepare for these hard
times that come over and over and over and over again. One phase that you are experiencing right
now would normally crush a human being. Okay you're going through this process
things get hard everything in your life seems fucked. Most people quit the first
time that happens. Most people look themselves in the mirror and say, Oh, well, I guess it's not for me.
I'm going to go just do what everybody else does.
And then they quit.
Okay.
And what you have to realize is that if you could build yourself into someone who can
work through these things as they come, there's really nothing that can stop you.
And the longer you go through them and the more you go through them, the less and less competition there is to the thing that you do. So work on your mental,
focus on keeping your mentality and your mental toughness sharp, recognize when it gets soft
and recognize the importance and the reality of the path that you are on. If you were on
a mediocre path and you just wanted
to be a regular human, these tests are going to come anyway. They're just going to come
disguised as other things. Okay. They're going to look different. They're going to feel different.
You're not going to be able to pay your electric bill. You're not going to be able to eat at
the places you want. Your ability to attract a mate is going to be incredibly diminished.
Okay. You're going to end up with someone
you don't really want to be with.
You're going to drive something
you don't really want to drive.
You're going to be embarrassed of what you did in your life.
Those are fucking hard things to deal with.
Okay, but if you're going to be an achiever,
you're going to deal with different shit.
You're going to deal with people laughing at you.
You're going to deal with people not believing in you.
You're going to deal with people trying to tear you down.
You're going to deal with people who, you know know are situations that are just uncomfortable in different ways all right so we all go through
this it looks different for everybody but the bottom line is if we prepare ourselves to go
through these things and we expect these things to happen and we know what to do as they come
you end up winning because everybody else can't make it through, okay?
That's what this comes down to.
It's very simple.
I love it, man.
Let me ask you this,
because I feel like this is something I've done personally
where, and I just want to get your opinion on it.
Like, is this a healthy way, I guess, to manage that stuff?
Is that I've always just told myself,
you know what, it could be worse.
It could be worse.
And maybe, like, I don't know,
like, does that diminish the,
like all of the benefits that you can get
from going through the hard shit
if you try to diminish how hard it is?
No.
When things are very hard,
there is a very real truth to the fact
that they could be way fucking harder.
Okay, and most of the people in our country,
the United States,
you know, there's people listening all over the world, but most of the people in our country, the United States, you know, those people listen all over the world. Most of the people here have never really been through
anything hard. Okay. They've been through the normal life shit of hard, right? Someone
dies, someone gets sick, these kinds of things lose a job, but their day to day hard is fucking
luxurious compared to someone who comes from, you know, some third world place. So lacking the perspective of understanding what is truly hard actually
makes your life feel much harder. All right.
So when we can have the proper perspective about what's actually hard and we can
remind ourselves that things could be way worse.
And the fact is most people have them way worse. That can get us in a place of gratitude.
And when we get into a place of gratitude,
it makes it easier and we can think more clearly about what we need to move
forward because most people,
when they get in that situation of being frustrated, they're there,
they panic and they get frazzled and they can't focus and they don't know what
to do. So they do nothing nothing and that just makes the situation worse
So I definitely think there's a lot of value to reminding yourself that no matter how dark shit is it could be a lot fucking
darker
100% man
Loving it guys any question number two
Andy I just got bent over with no lube in business.
Okay.
It happens.
I like that he put the collar, there's a comma there.
You gotta have, that's a very, very important punctuation.
It happens.
He says, I had a business relationship
that I've been working on for the last year and a half.
I depend on this company as part of my supply chain
for my business.
Well, they just cut themselves out
without warning, without consideration,
and I feel completely lost and out of control.
How have you handled being bent over
with no lube in the past versus how you handle that stuff now?
I feel like I might go to jail if I go with my first mind.
Yeah, you might.
I know what that feels like, bro.
When someone really fucks with your livelihood that serious shit and
You know, I think people forget that I think people forget because of the internet when they fuck with people's livelihood what they're really doing
To people and where they're really putting them. Okay, so I can understand that feeling because I've had a lot of people fuck with me
along the way
So I get that. Don't do that though.
The best way to win is to keep moving forward and smiling everybody's face and
be like, fuck you. You know, you ain't stopping me. So, uh,
back to the question,
how do we handle these situations when things happen that are out of our
control? Well,
you have to understand that when you are a little fish in a big pond,
you're not going to get the respect from the bigger companies that other people
get. Okay.
If that company that you're doing business with had seven other customers and
they're all as big as you and they're all growing.
And then that company doesn't have the capacity to do more business for those
people.
They're going to cut ties with the little ones so
that they can expand their ability to service the ones that are bigger. And that sounds
like that's where you're at. I can't imagine someone pulling their business from you or
a vendor pulling their business from you unless they either a went out of business or B had
to expand their ability to service someone bigger than you. And that's normal when you're
small. You ask, what is that, what happens whenever you get bigger?
That doesn't happen when you get bigger
because you become such a big part of these vendors' business
that they bend over backwards, okay?
So they don't have the ability to really fuck you.
You hold all the cards, the bigger you get.
And your job is to go from where you are
to where that place is, right?
You wanna go from the guy who's not getting the respect to the person that's getting all the respect in your business is secured how
do you do that well you got to get creative you're not facing anything that
any that anybody else who's ever built anything hasn't had to face okay so how
can you succeed without these people what are the alternatives who can I work
with besides that is there an opportunity for me to bring that in house so this can never happen again?
How can I ensure that my business is never compromised by someone else's decisions ever
again?
And this is why in the companies that I'm involved in, we're constantly working towards
vertical integration.
We are constantly working towards bringing everything within our control.
Simply for that reason that you mentioned, I don't want to have anybody else be in charge
of the destiny or the outcome of our business.
Okay.
But when you're a little guy and you don't have the capital, that's just a reality.
So what you have to do is you've got to go out, build relationships, find companies that
may be in the same position that you're in.
Maybe they're a little smaller,
maybe they're a little hungrier,
maybe they'll do more for you because they are hungrier.
In fact, I know they will, because that's how it works.
And start working there, okay?
But this is normal, this is reality.
When you're little, you get no respect.
When you're big, you hold all the cards.
And that really never ends.
Yeah.
I wanna say this because I wanna preface this question
with this, you know, I've been grateful enough
to be around you for the last five years.
And I think what I, probably my most admirable piece
of you, Andy, is that you're very,
you're an ethical businessman, right?
And I've been able to see that like very, very clearly,
right, and all your companies is very ethical.
And it's something that I've always,
like it's always been kind of puzzling to me because,
you know, you have an entrepreneurship in business.
There's a saying, well, that's just business, right?
And so it's like, how do you kind of like,
I guess, differentiate something that's just business
versus somebody truly being unethical
or fucked up in business? Listen, I think when we're younger and we're smaller,
it's easy for us to like, if you were like, if I was in that position,
which by the way, I've been in that position,
I've been in a position before where I was working with a company who decided
that they were going to work with someone else.
And then I was left holding the bag. Okay. That's happened many times.
A lot of times, in fact, every time that it's happened many times a Lot of times in fact every time that it's happened. I took it personally because it is personal to me
This is my livelihood. This is our people's livelihood, okay?
But it's actually not a personal thing. Okay, so you have to know and you have to be able to really truly
separate
What's personal and what's business. Okay. Business
is business. And that means it's not going to always go the way you want. You're not
going to always get what you want. Some people are going to have different goals, but to
all of this, I would say to your ethical question, the reason that it's important to always do
the right thing and have respect for people regardless of what happens is
Because this game is so fucking long
You never know who you're gonna have to work with in the future if you burn a bridge now
That same guy might come back in three years and fucking stomp on your throat
Okay, because that business is always evolving people People are always moving their chess pieces.
And sometimes that guy who you got pissed off at, maybe he's in a crunch and he cut
you out because he was in a crunch. And then maybe he gets his mood pieces moved in the
right way and he calls you back and he says, DJ, I got a great opportunity, bro. I know
it didn't work out here, but like, what about this? Okay. So we can't burn bridges because
the game is so long.
We don't know what bridge we're going to have to cross and doing things ethically also important
because when you do good things and you do them with the proper intent, the universe
and God rewards that back to you. So if you're doing things with the wrong intent, are you
doing things with bad intent or you're being manipulative or you're lying or you're cheating
or you're stealing or you're cheating or you're
stealing or you're doing whatever, you're going to get that back a hundred fold eventually
somewhere along the line. So it's very important that you understand that what you put out
is what you're going to get. This is why all you hater motherfuckers never fucking win.
Okay. You cannot control your own ego to understand that there's plenty,
plenty of room for everybody to win. And you see someone when you see them grow their business, you see them drive a car, bro, I see this every day.
I post my life. People are like, Oh, fuck you. I want to see that. Well,
you know what?
There's lots of young kids that are inspired by my lifestyle that I've created
for fucking 25 years that I have a duty to show them so that they can understand it
There is a prize on the other end of that fucking struggle, okay?
But you are so fucking stupid you can't understand that when you hate on that you're telling the universe
I don't like winning. I don't like winning because every time I see someone else win. I don't like it
Okay, what do you think the universe gives you it gives you exactly what you're asking for which is not winning
Alright, so all you hate her
Dumb asses out there. You need to understand this and because dude you're you're the one stomping on your own dick
You don't realize that so when you see someone win, you should be happy
If you're not happy, you should figure out how to be happy
You should stop yourself when you feel that little jealous
Tingle on the inside and be like, I don't know that ain't right dude good
If he did it I can do it and I can do it better, right? That's how the attitude
Yeah, I was just thinking about the ethical, you know
Is this just business part because like it just made me click like the the guy that left him
Maybe he's just looking out for his people right like his company has to grow like I feel like that's a perspective people lack
I think that's highly likely. You know I think that's highly likely
I don't think it's a personal thing bro if you if it was personal you know it
Hmm, you know you know when people don't like you personally right you know most of you guys you guys think you really got haters
You don't fucking have any haters, bro.
You don't, you never had the internet come after you.
You've never been on fucking MSM or, you know, news stations across the country.
I've been on that shit plenty of times.
Okay.
There's a big difference between hate and you imagining hate.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
You know, and what most people do is they set themselves up in this mind frame of,
if I do this, then so-and-so is going to think this,
and then somebody else is going to think this,
and then somebody else is going to think that.
And what we do is we imagine all these worst case scenarios,
but we can't put a name on who's going to think what. And what does that mean?
It actually means that we are our own biggest haters
So we're the ones hating on ourselves and keeping ourselves from taking action
Because of the things that we think may happen which likely never do happen. So
Get out of your own fucking way. I love it, man. I love it guys Andy our third and
final question
Andy how do you balance
delayed gratification and
Enjoying life more now. I
Am 26 years old. I am working a full-time job on the nights and weekends
I am collaborating with a longtime friend with his growing small business
I'm also working with my brother on his small business. The point is I'm doing well
I live in a small apartment and drive an 11 year old compact car
I could upgrade my lifestyle, but I am too driven and want to spend that extra money on some business ideas
How do you convince yourself to let go of the instant pleasures to achieve something far greater
in the future.
My advice to anybody is to live below your means for as long as you possibly can until
you can invest the proper amount of money to where the return that you're looking for
long term is going to be reflective of the lifestyle that you're looking to build. So
you have to not be influenced by the culture and you have to look at yourself and say, okay, what am I trying to achieve here? I'm trying to achieve this lifestyle.
I am here currently. I can afford a new BMW and I can afford a condo. Should I get the condo and the BMW
or should I take the money and put it into the business?
Well, the answer is,
what do you want on the other end of it?
Okay, because the longer that you can maintain living small
and invest your cash back into your business,
the bigger the backend reward's gonna be.
Now we talk in here about my story a lot.
We talk about how the first 10 years,
I made $58,380 for 10 years.
Not a year, that's cumulative for 10 years.
But what people don't realize is that by the year 2006,
we were making money and we were investing it
in our business.
And we were taking all the money,
even though we could have afforded to pay ourselves for the next four or five years and pouring it directly into the business
so that we could get the end result where we wanted it to be. And once that engine was
built by that investment and we had it running, now we were able to, you know, take a little
bit of here, take a little bit there. We were also along the way, along the way we were able to figure out ways
to make personal income that didn't affect the business.
Okay?
So it all depends on where do you wanna be in 20 years?
Do you wanna be the guy who is 26 years old,
driving a fucking,
an S-Class, thinking you're the shit,
or an old fucking Bentley, or a fucking old Lamborghini? Or do you wanna be the guy thinking you're the shit or an old fucking Bentley or a fucking old Lamborghini
or do you want to be the guy when you're 40 that is flying on a jet and going on a yacht
and buying whatever fucking Bugatti he decides he wants to buy? You know what I'm saying?
What do you want? Okay. Because I could tell you this, that 26 year old guy, by the time
you're 40, that guy's going to be broke and no one's going to remember. And what they
are going to remember is how douchebag he was trying to pretend like he was the shit when he wasn't the shit and look at him now
Exactly, and the last thing you want to do is embarrass yourself with with that kind of shit. So
Let's be real about it
Yes, you can reward yourself. You sure can but it is going to cost you what's that cost worth?
All right, and that's how I would that's how I would how I would evaluate that now yourself you sure can but it is going to cost you what's that cost worth all
right and that's how I would that's how I would how I would evaluate that now
what I also think is that it's important to taste success sometimes I think it's
important to reward yourself and show yourself that you're doing things along
the right way but most people do that way too much and It ends up costing them. You know what I mean? So like
You know
It's it's there's nuance there. Yeah. Yeah for sure. My dad told me one time I asked him I was gonna I was gonna get a
750 BMW this was back like when I thought we huh sweet. Oh fuck. Yeah, the big body beamers. I always liked them. Yeah, and
This is back, I don't know I didn't even know when this was I
Mean fucking 15 years ago at least
And I said, how do you I asked him a similar question
I said, how do you know when when you and he his answer was you'll know?
You'll know, you know, which I don't know what the fuck that man
You know, I feel like my answer is better. You know, which I don't know what the fuck that man You know, I feel like my answer is better, you know now
Yeah, you know, I think I think I think it just comes down and then also, you know, like bro, you know
We only have limited time so we have to run that balance very carefully
You know, I mean like look like Kobe situation. Yeah for sure, you know, Kobe works his balls off for fucking 40 years
Kobe situation for sure, you know, Kobe works his balls off for fucking 40 years
Decides he's gonna start spending time with his family and dies and it doesn't always work out the way we want so like when you pour yourself into
An ambitious lifestyle into big dreams big goals. You have to understand that it's very possible. You could run out of time
Okay, it's very possible. It's a bet we make it's a gamble gamble we make. But it's the gamble required if you're going to do anything relevant. So there's no way
around that. That's a bet you're going to have to make. Fuck, dude, you could get run
over walking across the street today. Who knows? But if you want to be successful and
you want to build big shit and you want to do something that's going to take care of
you financially and take care of your family financially and give you
Ultimate freedom to do whatever you want at any time
You need to delay gratification for as long as possible
That's the truth the richest motherfucker in the world
Well, not the richest but one of the richest I do Elon Musk doesn't fucking own a whole bunch of shit
No, he flies around on a plane stays in hotels and shit. Okay, who else is
Known for that Oh Warren Buffett. He lives in the same house. He's lived in for fucking 60 years, dude
You see what I'm saying like worth billions. Yes, bro
These people just it becomes it doesn't become a game of accumulation of shit. It becomes winning
Who's the winner and And that's what's going
to come for you too. So like, you know, you may have a passion, dude, maybe your passion,
you know, is watches or cars or whatever. I like watches and I like cars. Those two
things I like, you know, I, I like winning better than that though. You know what I'm
saying? Like I've gone through those phases. Um, young Dolph has a lyric in one of his songs.
He goes,
I got tired of watches, I started buying cars.
I got tired of cars, I started buying property.
All right?
So what he's talking about there
is the natural progression of a entrepreneur.
And these little fucking trinkets and collection and toys,
eventually they lose their coolness.
Now I am deeply passionate about cars,
but I haven't bought a watch in fucking five, six years.
I don't give a fuck.
In fact, I really don't ever wear one anymore.
I don't even wear one unless I wear a suit.
So, and I got a nice watch collection, okay,
and worth millions of dollars, but like, I don't care.
You know what I'm saying? It's not cool to me anymore. And the cars, I mean, fuck like, I don't care. You know what I'm saying?
It's not cool to me anymore.
And the cars, I mean, fuck dude, I got some cars coming,
but I haven't bought a new car in a couple of years.
I drive the cool shit I got.
You know what fucking, you know what I like?
I like winning.
I like reinvesting my money.
I like knowing that I come in here every day
and I don't even take a paycheck
and I help these motherfuckers grow this shit
so we can win.
I fucking love that. It makes me happy. So
Uh, but i'm in a different position. I've been doing this 25 years. I've been doing it since I was a young kid
so
Every single person that I have ever heard of ever ever ever ever ever ever
That has built something amazing delayed gratification for as long as possible, and also was very fucking tired.
Okay, we have people talking about how tired they are.
I told them, I'm tired, I'm tired, I'm tired.
No shit, that's a prerequisite to success.
Every single thing that has ever been built,
every single accomplishment that's ever been accomplished,
every single thing that is worth mentioning
in the history of fucking Earth was built by people who were tired
Every single thing okay, so you getting on the internet and crying about how fucking tired you are or saying I'm tired good
You're supposed to be tired. Can you execute when you're tired?
That's the question that you need to be answering so you know
question that you need to be answering. So, you know,
delayed gratification, discipline over motivation, 100% of the time,
those two things will get you very far falling into the trap of instant gratification. Cause you watch all these dorks on the internet who don't have
shit talk about how much money they have when they're all clearly lying.
Um, that's going to get you right where, where everybody else is,
which is here today, gone tomorrow. You want to build something great?
Take all the money you make pour it back in do that over and over and over again until you got the engine built
When the engine starts building if you want to continue to pour money in you can
But you don't have to I love it man, I love it guys, it's a hell of a way to start a Monday man
Let's get to it
Alright guys. We'll see you for CTI tomorrow