REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 844. #75HARD Vs Natasha & David Pehrson

Episode Date: February 23, 2025

On today's #75HARD Vs, Andy is joined in the studio by Natasha and David Pehrson. They discuss the spark that made them want to start the 75 Hard program, how their relationship with food has changed since starting the program, the confidence they've gained from the program, and the example they're looking to set through their actions for their family and friends.

What is up guys? It's Andy Frisella and this is the show for the realest say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome the motherfucking reality guys today We have a special 75 hard versus I have my good friends here Natasha and David Pearson. What's going on guys? Thanks for having us. Yeah It's awesome I found these guys on the internet

I watched their transformation and I'm gonna have them come in and tell their story and see What they got going on. So where you guys want to start what brought you to 75 hard and what got this going? So we had a couple friends that were doing this our friends Tom and Jess and We met they had come down to Arizona visit us and They were in the middle of it and all of a sudden I'm out doing workouts with them outdoors. We're doing walks and runs and I was like I feel pretty good about this but I was kind of in a position like I was in a in my mind I had just I had been two years off the job. I was I was in law enforcement and now I'm just

a full time dad and so that had I was kind of just in no I'm just a full-time dad. And so that, I was kind of just in no man's land where I wasn't really, I felt like I just wasn't doing anything with my life, except being a dad, which I mean, it's a big job. It's a big, big job. Three kids, four now. And I just felt overwhelmed,

just like trying to figure out what I was gonna do because I think I was lost in this identity, like oh, I'm still Dave the gonna do because I think I was lost in this identity like oh I'm still Dave the cop mm-hmm, and I like wanted that I missed that brotherhood and I was just like trying to figure out what I wanted to do and this just seemed like something I was I'd gone up. I'd gained like 40 or 50 pounds since I had lost it. I heard I had left my job and I was just feeling miserable and I Saw how fit my friends had gotten and I was like, all right, this seems like something I need to do.

He came home, he's like, I'm gonna do 75 hard. And I had been seeing a lot of my friends doing it and I was a little cynical about it because I kind of had the childhood where it required me to be mentally tough from a young age and I was like, I don't need to prove to anyone that I can do this. And I didn't really want to do it. But when he said he wanted to do it, I mean, I think one of the great things about our marriage is his weaknesses are my strengths,

and my weaknesses are his strengths. And so the second he said we're going to do it, I'm like, crap, I'm going to have to do this with him because I want him to be successful. And I love him. And I want him to finish it. And I know that his best chance is if I stand there by his side and do it with him. And I remember that first workout on day one, I was walking and I was just like, I'm so pissed right now. I don't want to be doing this. I have other things I can be doing, but I'm so grateful I did. I mean, we both had incredible mental transformations, physical as well.

They were both very different, but it was very transformational, not just for us, but our entire family because we have four kids. We had three at the time, the first time we did it. Second time we did it, we had four kids and they got to see our example, which was so cool. And they got to be a part of it with us. And we told them what we were doing. And every day our daughter, she was seven at the time, she would open up both of our apps. All right, did you take your picture? Did you do this? And it was really cool to see that

you can teach that trait to your kids. Like set a goal, follow through, this is how you do it. I think that's the most important thing going on in the world right now. You know, you guys, other families that have children, you know, setting that example of, you know, not just being an average person sitting on the couch consuming all kinds of bullshit food.

It took me a long time personally to break out of that because that's what I really kind of grew up around. I grew up around eating Doritos and pizzas and all that stuff and it just took me a long time to really understand that not only is that not good for me but I'm setting a poor example for everybody around me. So you were cynical about it so and that's cool a lot of people are. I gotta be honest. Yeah no like that's great so did it change as you went through the

program? Yeah I mean it definitely changed you know it reminded me yes, I already have this skill where I'm mentally tough. It's like a muscle. You have to exercise it. You're not going to keep it all the time. And it just reminded me of like, oh yeah, if I ever feel like I'm at a place in my life where I feel stuck, usually what I need to do is the thing that I don't want to do. And so that's what I did. I was doing 75 hard, pissed off about it in the beginning, but by the end I'm like, oh

yeah, I still got it. I oh yeah, like I still got it. I have three kids and I still got it. Yeah, a lot of people don't understand that. They think that like you can become disciplined one time in your life, and then you're just gonna stay in that zone. And you have to understand guys, it's a perishable skill. If we don't exercise it, just like you were saying,

like a muscle, it's gonna get weak. And I think a lot of people really struggle with that because they, you know, I grew up struggling with my weight. I don't know how you guys, if that was something that you guys both struggle with, but for me, you know, I found myself at certain points in my life where I was doing everything right and I got the results, but then I would find myself on the roller coaster,

you know, sliding back down the other side pretty quick. I was doing everything right and I got the results. But then I would find myself on the roller coaster, sliding back down the other side pretty quick. And that, I never understood why. I never understood why it was that certain people didn't struggle with that. It seemed like they had no struggles, no problems staying fit, no problems staying healthy. And I did.

And it made me bitter. It made me mad. And it wasn't until I started really, this is how we got 75 Heart into existence, because I wanted to know what they had that I didn't have. And I wanted that, I wanted what they had that I didn't have. The ability to go to a restaurant

and order something that was healthy for you or the ability to say no to alcohol, that was a big thing for me. I grew up in an alcohol culture, where Thursday, Friday, Saturday, we were out partying and that was a hard thing for me to kick. But dude, the biggest light bulb that really came on for me in my journey

was the idea of discipline being a perishable skill, meaning we have to consistently exercise it in order for it to stay. And that's been life changing for me. Absolutely. I would agree. And I can relate to you on the, for me, it's not, it wasn't alcohol, but it was the food. Yeah. And what kind of food do you like? Fast food. Yeah. Taco bell. Yeah. So not sweets, just regular food. And it still is, I mean, like you said, it's perishable. It still is, I still consider myself a food addict. Yeah, me too.

Like the way people refer to themselves an alcoholic. Yeah. Like I'm a food addict. Bro, me too. It's like I get a taste of it. It never goes away. It's like, and it's like I have four kids at home. It's really easy to pull in the drive-through

and order something, a happy meal for them or whatever, and then be like Oh, yep, and I'll take a McDouble and Big Mac and and by the way, I'll get it back together tomorrow I'll get back on it tomorrow tomorrow. Right. Yep. So so that's what I feel like I gained the most One of the things I gained the most from that was being able to develop that skill where I can Go back. Yeah, bro, you're taking the power away from this and giving it to yourself. Exactly.

And that was something that I think for everybody that has a successful program, you know, in terms of running 75 hard, I think that's what I hear the most, is you're taking the power back from these inanimate objects, the food, the alcohol, the things that shouldn't control us but do. I struggle with the food addict thing too, man.

I was just talking to my buddy Anthony, heavy to modified, who's been on the show before, he lost five, 600 pounds. And I'm still like that, dude. I still feel like that fat guy on the inside. Yep, that has no control But I do have the control because I do I have I have the ability to say no now Which I don't know how bad you were but I could not say no no every time it was Like I couldn't say you're exactly right. I could not say no. Yeah Well, I think it for me it also made me realize how good I felt without it.

And when I did pass it up, I mean, a lot of times when you're repeatedly eating that crap over and over and over again, you don't realize what it feels like to feel good. And eating good food and exercising and drinking water physically makes you feel good. And you realize, I don't actually want that because I don't like how it affects my body.

Yeah. You know, one of the things that, man, I don't want to that because I don't like how it affects my body. Yeah. You know, one of the things that I, I, and man, I don't want to sound like I'm judging because I've been this guy before. I've been the 350 pound dude a couple of different times, but you're exactly right. You know, when you go to the grocery store and you see people what they're normally eating and they don't think anything of it and you look at it like that and you say, dude, if I ate that, I'd be sick.

I would be sick to my stomach. I'd be probably having diarrhea. And when you start to realize how damaging that food is, it does change your perspective. And I know for me, man, like I definitely will still eat like once in a while, I'll do fast food. I'll do like Culver's or something like that

It's like in between you know, um the cheese curd. Yeah Culver's pretty good man. You guys got Culver's out there. Yeah, our neighbor actually owns three really. Yeah, it's a good connection Yeah, so kind of yeah, dude. That's that's my go-to or chick-fil-a. I like that too. But uh, you know Dude, I had to quit Taco Bell cold turkey. Like I've not had it in like eight years because I cannot have it. Cause I'm afraid if I have it,

I will go back down the slide cause I can't control it. So. Oh, it was Chick-fil-A for me. I mean, like I said, this really impacted our entire family when I was pregnant with our third baby and he was still up in Washington as a cop. And I was in Arizona with our kids.

You were in the state of Washington? Yeah. Okay, so Arizona's pretty new for you guys. Yeah, we've been there for about. Almost five years. Almost five years. Okay. But I, I mean, I thought, yeah,

my kids are gonna be in school, this is gonna be easy, I'll have all day to myself. The day we moved into our house, everything shut down and I was just exhausted taking care of the kids, running my business, doing all the things, and I would take them to Chick-fil-A every single day. I mean, six days a week. Except Sunday, right?

Except Sunday. I was just so tired. I didn't want to cook, I didn't want to do dishes, and I gained so much weight during that pregnancy. And when I got pregnant. How much did you gain? Oh, gosh. I got to the heaviest I'd ever been.

So after I delivered, I was 235 pounds. Holy shit. I've lost over a hundred pounds, but I've lost I cannot imagine you with an extra hundred pounds Yeah, I mean it's not like you're a petite. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Yeah, but when I got pregnant with our fourth and this was a very devastating moment for me But I we were telling our kids and I told her daughter and the first thing she said, it was, does this mean we get to go to Chick-fil-A every day? No, my mommy's pregnant. I felt embarrassed. I mean, that was what I was teaching my daughter. And you know, kids aren't going to do what you tell them. They're going to follow your example. They're going to do what you do. And that was so transformational for us when we were doing 75

hard the first time, because this guy does not like vegetables at all I saw this I saw this video on tik-tok and I sent it to him right when we started Oh gosh I wish I knew who did who it was but he was pretty much like you're an adult and you don't like Vegetables suck it up and eat it cuz that's what's good for you And so I said that to him and you know He started eating the vegetables and our son who was the pickiest eater ever saw his dad I mean I ate pretty healthy, but he wasn't as good as me at the time

But as soon as he saw his dad a male role model Eating these healthy foods he started wanting to eat vegetables and he wanted to do these things too And he wanted to work out with David and like seeing that was incredible Dude, I think that's the biggest thing we're missing in the world. Like when we look around the world and we talk about all the things that are wrong, we have to look at our own example.

We have to look at our own lives and we have to look at the examples we're setting for the people around us. You know, I'm not fortunate enough to have children, but I've got a lot of people that kind of follow my lead, you know, and so it's a serious obligation for us if we want the world to be better. We can go out and we can complain,

and we can cry about the way things are, but the reality is, you know, we are society. We are the world. And if we don't live that on an individual level, what are we creating? What are we leaving behind? Oh, we're leaving behind just more of the shit we complain about. So, I mean, I think that's, I think that's amazing. And, you know, I think people are getting more aware of that, knowing that the

world's kind of messed up right now. You know what I mean? So let's talk about this. You guys did it together and And I'm curious. How it affected your guys is relationship. Oh, if anything, it brought us closer together. I think especially communication wise, like trying to juggle to workouts, you know, several hours apart for both of us while taking care of all the kids doing all the things. We really had to communicate. We were cheering each other on the whole time.

It was it was really cool to be working towards a big goal together and grow as people together. And I especially saw it through the personal development as well that we were reading every single day and watching my husband transform. I mean, I had been reading personal development for years, but watching him really get into it and seeing him turn into this confident man,

I mean, it made me love him even more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing more attractive than people that actually believe in themselves. Exactly. My confidence was through the roof.

Good. Absolutely just the biggest booster. And I think, like she said, it brought us closer together. I mean, she was 100 pounds lighter or heavier than she is. So how much weight did you lose? I lost 60 pounds. Okay, I had I was up to 270 Yeah, wow, and I got down to yeah, 209 208 and look great, too Yeah, yeah, and it's yeah, it's been it's the what you've set up has been incredible to

be able to just bounce back to and and I think when What you wish you sang about the you're so much more attracted to each other, yeah, and back to and I think when what she was saying about the, we were so much more attracted to each other and I didn't even realize what had separated us. What had, there wasn't like a, it's like we've always loved each other and always supported each other and then how much more attracted we were to each other. Well it's more physical too, right?

Yeah, exactly. Like when you do that work together, you build a mutual respect. Because like you're working, you're suffering together, you're doing things that you don't wanna do that you know you need to do, you're keeping those promises, and it builds that respect, you know, that is, it's not,

and you know, the physical is awesome, but that respect, I think, is, you know, where that real connection is born from. Exactly you know to add on top of that like we it's like I was the stay-at-home parent kind of thing. She's at home working her business but I was at home and there's things that were getting the you know I was always the guy there's not enough time I don't have time for this. Yeah. I'm too busy I've got three kids to take care of and I got to do you know they've got baseball piano gymnastics ballet you know everything and I got to do, you know, they've got baseball, piano, gymnastics, ballet,

you know, everything. And I was that guy, every excuse. And so then when I did this program, and she's like, oh wow, you're actually getting a lot more done. The laundry's done, like, and I was really making priorities, like things were getting done.

I think that it really, not that she's bossy like that. No, no, no, dude, I think that's something. I am a little bossy. So way more productive. My productivity was just, where before it was like you said, you know, I'm consuming the garbage food and then I was also, you know, consuming the scrolling. Yeah. And it's the tasks seem like a lot. But once you start doing

them, you realize, wow, I was wasting a lot of time before because I'm actually able to do all of this. That's something that I hear all the time is it makes people realize how much time they're wasting. And the other thing I hear a lot is that it makes people realize how much, how empty certain relationships are that consume your time for no reason. Your tolerance for bullshit just seems to go away.

Yes. Did you guys notice that? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yes, yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah man, it's, you know, David, I wanna hit back on what you were saying with being a little bit lost after this career change.

I mean, I think that's normal, especially for anybody who's been in a certain, it's been your identity for a long time. How long were you a cop? Almost five years. Yeah, so that's your identity for five years. And then you move and you're trying to figure out a new identity.

How did the program help you come to terms with that? I would say, so like the books I read, I was trying to learn a lot more about finances because I'm the CFO Mf. CEO yeah, yeah, CFO. I should say yeah, the MFC CFO of her business there we go So yeah so I really kind of took that role more seriously and started studying more about about finances and how to manage that and and gave myself like

More of a job then and took it more as a job rather than, hey, you're just a finance guy. And so, I hadn't picked up a book since high school. And so, 12, 13 years later, I'm reading these books and just my brain's just soaking it up. And I just felt like that really, that helped me a lot. Yeah, I think definitely. I saw it, you know, before 75 Heart, it was almost like life was happening to you and you were letting life happen to you.

And then once you started it, you're like, no, I'm going to take control of my life and I'm going to go do the things that I want to do. Dude, having that power just changes your whole entire existence. You know, I spent so many years of my life feeling, like I almost had to like catch the momentum and get lucky to see if I could actually like do it this time because I told myself so many times, I'm starting Monday, I'm starting after the holiday,

I'm starting after this. And I would tell my, and I would never start. And every time, what I started realizing and becoming aware to is that every time I did that, my belief in myself was being diminished. My confidence was being diminished, my self esteem was being diminished. And I don't think we as humans, stop and think about how damaging that actually is to our lives. Because

dude, when you've lost all your belief in yourself and all your strength in yourself and all the power that you're supposed to live with, which is our individual will, I mean, dude, it's, it just makes everything not just hard, but you feel out of control. You have anxiety, you get bitter because you're like, why can't I do anything? Why can't I do, everybody else can do this, I can't do this. And getting that control back and understanding that like, dude, we are in control of a lot of things

that dictate the quality of our life, right? We are in control. And people, like you were saying, they will make excuses and they will say, I got this much going on or I can't do this because of that. And our ability to tell ourselves lies and believe it, nobody can lie to us like us, you know what I mean? And so we tell ourselves all these reasons

and all it does is keep driving us lower and lower and lower and lower. And eventually we've got to stop and be truthful And say hey, man, I'm making bad decisions. That's it. I'm making bad decisions The problem isn't that I don't know what to do The problem is is that I'm not doing it and I think what's really magical about 75 hard Is that it teaches people the things that you can control are massively impactful to your everyday existence. Okay, yeah, we can't control what's going on in the world.

We can't control the weather. We can't control a lot of things, but the idea that we can control what we drink, what we eat, how we move, the information we consume, that those things right there will dictate, I think like 80%, 90% of the quality of our existence. And so many people just discount like we have no control and we do. And I know that for me, just having the power over these inanimate objects, the food, the alcohol, whatever this thing needs to be. Being able to say no to social situations, you know, dude, it just, it changes everything, man.

It just changes everything. It changes the way I see myself. It changes the way I behave. It changes the way I look. Changes the way other people see you. Yeah, I'll say even like, you know how you're saying that belief goes down and down and know, how you're saying that belief goes down and down and down, but you can also build it back.

That's right. You know, I hear women all that I help women lose weight while living. And all the time they say, I just want to be confident like you. And I always say, you know, you don't just hit this number on the scale. And all of a sudden, you're confident. Confidence is something you need in order to lose the weight. And how you do that is show up for yourself. That's right. You got to earn it. Yeah, a for yourself every day. That's right, you gotta earn it.

Yeah, don't think it's- A little bit every day. Yes, don't think about losing 100 pounds. Think about losing one pound. Show up one day. Don't worry about this weekend. Dude, that's it. Show up today. Tomorrow, you'll be more confident that you can do it again and again and again.

And that's ultimately how you get there. That's right, it's winning the day. Yeah. That is it. And then when you wake up, the best part about that strategy, I mean, that's been my philosophy in business and life forever, and it's worked pretty well.

If I win the day, I can wake up the next day, and even if I'm not where I wanna be, I don't look at my yesterday and say, oh man, I really messed up, and look where I'm at. No, you can wake up with a little bit more confidence It might just be a smidgen of more confidence but you get you could go, you know, I can remember lots of times where I've gotten up and I know I didn't do what I was supposed to do the day before and I look in the mirror and I'm like fuck I look like shit blah blah

and then I'm like I was I did what I wasn't doing what I was supposed to and then you start like the the day starts to compound the other way and Dude, at least when you're not where you are if you follow that philosophy You will wake up and yes, you're gonna look in the mirror and you're gonna say Oh, i'm not where where I want to be yet or my bank account is not where it should be yet or whatever the goal is But at least you can look back yesterday and say I did everything I could have done yesterday and you could start that new day off with positive momentum.

And that's something that's really huge for me. If I am not where I wanna be in any area of life, which happens dude, it happens to all of us. There's times when I go a little, that the difference is now that I'm in control of it, I recognize it right away and I get back on track. I was talking to my buddy Anthony, like I mentioned earlier, and I said,

dude, if I go two or three days, I won't let myself go more than three days off anymore, ever. Because if I go that fourth day, I can start feeling the fat dude re-energizing inside of me. Yeah. He's getting his power back. But yeah, exactly, dude. And the amount of awareness that you gain about yourself

by going through that and accepting that as the reality, right? We are here to win the day. If we win the day and we go tomorrow and we win tomorrow and we go Wednesday and we win Wednesday and then we end up winning, you know, six days out of the week over the course. That's a winning life if you, if you amplify that out and multiply that over the course of life. And I wish more people thought like that. I wish more people would realize this is very, very simple. It's about what's right here in front of you. What is, what is, what is right here in front of

you and then doing that thing the right way, you know? And it's that simple, man. Yep, it's just taking control of what you have control of. Yeah. And realizing you're stronger than your excuses. I mean, when we did 75 Hard the first time, we went on a vacation. We went to New Mexico for the Hot Air Balloon Festival.

And we were both very nervous going in because vacations before used to be a free for all. Like, let's eat whatever we want, let's do all the things. And we had to go in and be very intentional and think ahead of time. All right, how are we gonna fit in our workouts? I mean, we were up at three o'clock in the morning working out.

Working out. And we did it. And I remember getting home and thinking like, not only were we able to accomplish that, but I actually think I enjoy going on vacation and being healthy like yeah I like waking up in the morning and feeling like I have energy instead of hungover from what I ate the dog I'll bloat and shit. Yeah, like this actually feels pretty good. I mean now we have a little bit more balance We we love you don't get to be a hundred pounds overweight because you don't like that's right. We like food

Yeah, we have better balance. We still prioritize exercising. We make sure we stay at places that have a gym or we can go outside somewhere. We eat healthy most of the time. We prioritize water and vegetables and we'll still enjoy some things. And it's a completely different lifestyle that we have. Yeah, yeah.

So let's talk about that for a second. You know, David, you especially, you know, you've kind of mentioned you were in a very low spot. Like, for both of you guys, I'd be curious to hear your take on this. But before, like when you were at your beginning, when you were 100 pounds overweight, you were 60 pounds overweight,

if you had to guess, and I was to say, hey, what capacity were you operating on in life as a percentage, what would you say it was? Probably in the twos yeah 2% 2 or 3 yeah really that low yeah, it was yeah Kind of what she said I was just letting yeah life just happen yeah, and I just you're a passive participant big time Yeah, and that's I mean, that's well I get that I've been there was like just my whole life. Yeah, I was kind of just really ago with the flow Easy going so you've made some huge transformations here you you understand

Now that you can go get and make whatever you want happen exactly. That's fucking awesome, dude That makes me super happy for you, bro. Like that is some badass shit. Yeah, it's huge How old are you I'm 34 bro most people never figure that out their whole life. That's super cool man Yeah, so 2% yep, and what do you would you say right now? I Mean now we all know we always got room to get better. I have a lot of room to improve but I would say I'm I'm in the High 80s low 90 now. That's incredible.

And I think the great thing about this, though, and like you said, it's almost like something that you can always come back to. Yes, it's a tool. I don't think he'll ever get to 2% again. He won't let himself, because if he ever goes to 50, you know, like, oh, I need to get it back together. And I know exactly what I need to do.

I think for me, when we started, I was probably at an 80%, but it was 80% to everyone else and I wasn't taking care of me. I was a mom, I was doing all the things, I was trying to take care of everyone else. My energy was nowhere internal. It was everywhere else. And I realized like, I need to get back to me

because if I take care of myself, then I can be a better mom, I can be a better wife, I can be a better business woman. Like I need to make sure I'm taking care of myself. Yeah, you gotta be selfish to be selfless. Yes. If you're not operating at a high standard for yourself, you're giving a lower standard to others.

That's just the reality. And that goes for our kids, it goes for employees, it goes for peers, it goes for friends. We can only give what we're capable of giving. And if we're not capable of giving to ourselves, what are we capable of giving anybody else? Yeah, and now I know if I'm struggling in any area of my life,

while it might seem counterintuitive to someone else, I know I need to focus on myself for a bit. I need to do something for me. And I mean, this summer, whenever I feel that way, I'm like, what do I not want to do? Because that's what I need to focus on myself for a bit. I need to do something for me. And I mean, this summer, you know, whenever I feel that way, I'm like, what do I not want to do? Because that's what I need to go do. And so this summer I'm like,

I'm gonna sign up for a half marathon. I don't wanna train for it. I know it's gonna take a lot of work. I hate running, but I'm gonna do it because I need to prove to myself I can. Like I'm gonna go do the hard things because that's what I need right now. Dude, did you do it?

It's in a couple weeks. End of the month. Okay, let's go. But I have a nine mile run this weekend where I'm like, I don did you do it? It's in a couple weeks. Okay, let's go. But I have a nine mile run this weekend where I'm like, I don't wanna do it, but I'm gonna do it. So you mentioned in the beginning of the show that you said you didn't have anything to prove.

And it sounds like on your basic statement you just made, you figured out that it's not about proving it to others, it's about proving it to us. It's about proving it to yourself, yes. And I think that's why, you know, seeing it blow up online and seeing everyone do it and post it, it's like, great,

like I don't have anything to prove to anyone else, like I don't wanna do this just to go post about it. And then I realized, you know, when I was doing it with him, no, I need this for me. These are things that I need for me. Yeah, well, I mean, obviously let's be real, you know, there's a lot of people that post about it because it's cool and there's a lot of people that do it the right

Way, there's a difference and you can tell you know There's a lot of ways you could tell and I'm not really here to bag on anybody that doesn't do it But I mean I can fucking tell you know you guys could tell too. Yes. It's a real transformation mentally Dude, I'm super hyped for where you're at. That is super cool, bro. It's unreal and it's crazy not just on the children, but people around you. Because you feel like you wanna share it

and we want your friends who are in the most spot. They feel that way too. Go ahead. When I met you, we just met an hour ago. I would have never guessed, ever in my life, ever.. Mm-hmm I would have never guessed ever in my life ever first of all I've never guessed that you were that overweight and I would have never guessed that you were In that place confidence wise. Yeah, so I mean just so you know You're doing fucking good because I would have never ever ever thought that it was really cool, dude

Yeah, you know the phase three task of talking to strangers? He did that during 75 parts. He talks to everyone. That is that is one of his strengths. He is very personable. That's good for sure. And and it's just, yeah, the effect that's had on other people. And and like I've had other friends have done it now and just changed their lives. So guy who's a firefighter and he was really overweight and and he was having

heart issues and now his life's completely changed. And so just what's his name having hard issues and now you know his life's completely changed And so just what's his name means from you his name's Steven. Hey Steven. Good job. Let's go Yeah, I love that. Yeah, so What you guys mentioned the books you guys still keeping up with the reading or is it something that's here and there? Well, she's kind of gotten into the this whole new trend with these romance books Well, she's kind of gotten into the this whole new trend with these romance books There's some personal development with that too, yeah No, yeah, we still when when we

It's not a hundred percent, but what were your favorite books? What were your favorite books you you guys went through So oh, this is actually a good learning experience for me too because I started this book and at the time I thought I wanted a book like I want someone just to kind of like yell at me and be tough with me and it Was not like that at all. But you know, once you start a book you got to finish it Yeah, it was exactly the book I needed take back your time by Christie, right? Okay, and the what I mean, I read a personal development book and I can't retain all of it. I usually pick out like one thing and that's what I work on implementing.

Dude, that's how I look at it too. And then I can read it again and get something else. I think anybody who, I think most people that, I think a lot of people misunderstand the value of reading. They think that they read a book, you have to retain the whole thing. Dude, I might read a book five times over the course of five years

because every single time I read it, I pull one little thing out of it. One sentence, one paragraph, and then I'll work on that just like you're saying. Yeah, and the thing that stuck out to me the most is she talks about balance in the book. And for the longest time, I just felt like I was never enough

because I couldn't balance everything. And she said something that I still remember to this day where it's balance isn't spending equal amounts of time on all of the things balance is spending appropriate amount of time on whatever is a priority for you in the moment. And so while we were doing 75 hard, I mean, we were a priority, we were spending most of our time doing that. That's how we were having balance.

And I mean, you have different phases of life where now my kids are my priority or my works, my priority, but it helped me just have a different perspective on life and it made such a huge impact. Now, how long have you been doing your business? Well, I just actually launched my own program, not even a year ago, where it is a mindset program where I help women lose 50 to 100 pounds by changing their mindset. It's not with the diet. It's because, you know, a lot of women come to me and ask, well, I get meal plans. And I literally say just a little tough love. If it were that easy, you would have done

it because there's millions of free meal plans out there. That's right. Your problem is you're not able to follow through. That's right. You are not keeping these promises to yourself. And so I teach them how to build habits, how to build their confidence so they can show up every day and keep getting Results and build their confidence like that. So how did you start that? Um, I launched that in January this you've been doing you've been working with women before that though. Yeah, so it's been about Ten years. I mean I have had a lot of weight loss transformations I mean you have four babies. Yeah, and that I, that alone is really hard because right after we finished 75 hard,

I got pregnant again. And then you have the mental game of, I'm gonna gain weight back. It's those romance novels. Yeah, those romance novels. Yeah, that's why we have the four kids. No. But it's hard as a woman, like working so hard.

I mean, you lose a hundred pounds, you find out you're pregnant and you think I'm gonna gain weight now. And that's really difficult. It's hard as a woman, like working so hard. I mean, you lose 100 pounds, you find out you're pregnant, and you think, I'm gonna gain weight now. And that's really difficult, but 75 Hard, gave me the skills to say, I'm gonna do what I can. Some of my pregnancies have been rough, where I'm sick, I can't exercise as much as I would like to,

but I kept up what I could, and I had a different mindset throughout it, and it was the easiest pregnancy I had had out of all four. How has your business grown since developing or working on these skills? I mean I think I think what is most important to me is seeing the transformations within women lose weight and I see my business growing because people are starting to realize I don't just need another diet. Yeah. I need to actually change my life.

That's right. I need to change my habits and when I... It's not just lose 30 pounds for vacation. Yeah, and I hate when people say that 75 heart is about weight loss. That is not what it is about because when you can change your habits and your mindset, weight loss is a byproduct of that. That's right. You have to be able to adhere before you can gain the benefits of any nutritional program or training program. We all know what to do, okay? If we're fat, we got to eat less and we got to move.

If we need to gain muscle, we got to eat a little more. We got to lift weights. We all know what to do. I mean, at my fattest in my entire life and every single person I've talked to who has been extremely overweight like I have and like you guys have, we know what to do. Okay? But it's just we have not figured out how to take that power away from these things and give it back to ourselves. And we're not paying attention to our internal dialogue, right? Like when I started to really become aware

of my internal dialogue, justifying the decisions I was making, like when I was supposed to be quote unquote dieting, and I'd go and I'd be like, the story I would tell myself, right? I'd be like, fuck. All right, I'd go in a restaurant and be like, I'm gonna order a steak, a potato,

or a chicken and potato or something. And then I'd look at the menu and it would be all the stuff right you know the pizza the beers You know the nacho all the stuff. I love Yeah, bro all of it cuz listen. I love food too, man. I am a food kind of sewer and I Look at it, and I could and I started noticing like this my voice my bitch voice which are what I call in the in the program and in the book is It knows exactly what to tell me to get me to eat this shit and It makes you powerless and when I started paying attention to it. I actually started getting mad. I started getting mad like

This sounds so crazy, but I would look at that pizza on the menu and then I would hear my voice come in and be like, oh, it's okay, we'll get right back on track tomorrow. And then immediately I'd be like, you know what, fuck you, dude. And fuck that pizza too, and those nachos. That's for weak-ass people. I'm not weak anymore, I'm strong now.

And like, dude, when I started really like becoming aware of that dialogue, that's when it really started clicking for me, where I could now become someone who, instead of being a victim of my outside elements and circumstances, I started realizing that those things, I was in control that those things, I was in control of those things, not they were in control of me.

And that's where you start to get into an unstoppable phase because dude, if people could really stop, if you would really stop, all of you right now, stop and think about where your life would be if you followed through, if you had the ability to follow through on every single thing you ever told yourself you were going to do,

if you had done that, where would you be? And when you really are honest with that, your life would be completely different. And so what skillset are we missing to create that? Natasha, we are talking about the ability to adhere, the ability to follow through, the ability to keep promises. And when we talk about confidence and not having any, the reason we don't have any confidence

is because we're lying to ourselves more than anybody. We are, if someone came in here every day and told you, hey, I'm going to do this thing, and they didn't do it, after like three days, we'd be like, dude, this guy's full of shit. You'd have no respect for that person. But we don't realize that we do that to ourselves over the course of our lives. We do that in many different ways, you know, with training or reading or our food or the alcohol. We do it with a lot of things. And I think once we start to understand that the skillset that we're missing in our lives is a discipline-based skillset,

is not, and it's a skill, it's not a trait. You know, people think, oh man, I wasn't born, because I used to think that too. I look at all my friends who were in good shape because I grew up around athletes. And they, you know, I felt like, man, they don't even try. It wasn't that they weren't trying, it's that they had discipline and wasn't that they weren't trying. It's that they had discipline

and it appeared like they weren't trying. They weren't having the same struggles that I had, excuse me, from the outside, but it seemed like easy, but they were having the same decision-making process. They had just built up that boss voice that said, hey, that's not an option for me. Yeah. I think people think they need the willpower and it's like, you don't need willpower. Like you need to learn how to have discipline.

That's right. And understand what we're really talking about when we talk about discipline, dude, this is not just saying, Hey, make better choices, be disciplined. We have to understand that like any acquired skill, if you're going to go out and try to ice skate today and you never ice skated, you're going to suck. You're going to fall in your ass. Okay. So when we tell people, Hey, go be disciplined, that's like that. It's their first day of ice skating. Right. So we have to build that skill set up and we, and by building that up, other skills start to follow along.

The self-confidence, the self-belief, the grit, the fortitude. The amount of times when you have to go out and do cardio in Arizona, it's 120 degrees. Or here we've got tornadoes and thunderstorms and snow. Those things teach you things. And they make deposits into our belief system that we are making the right choices.

You know, for me, dude, one of the biggest things on 75 hard is when I have to do the workout in very bad weather. I was just going to say that. I was like, I want the bad situations because I go in telling myself this is going to suck, but I'm going to feel so good after. Those are the best ones. Dude, it is the, I can tell you the hardest workout I had to do. And it was also the workout at the end. I was like, fuck, yeah, dude, nobody's doing that. Nobody's doing it. And DJ actually did it with me.

We give DJ a lot of shit, but DJ did it with me. It snowed 18 inches here and we had to do our 45 minute workout. And we were out doing the normal route that we do. And we got halfway through and it was 45. It was, we were, we could have turned around and been 45 minutes. And we were both like, fuck, we gotta go do the whole route.

Like that's what we gotta do. It took two hours, but we got done and we were like, fuck yeah, dude. You can do anything. Nobody did that, nobody. And there's a lot of things that come with that, whether it's true or not, right? Like maybe there is a couple of people that did that. Nobody. And there's a lot of things that come with that, whether it's true or not, right? Like maybe there is a couple of people that did it. I don't know. But my point is, is that when you can look at yourself in the mirror and you could

say, nobody's doing this shit. How can you not feel good about yourself? Exactly. You know? And, uh, I just, I just really, really, really want people to understand that like, no matter where you are, if you feel like you're not in control and you feel like, man, I relate to what these guys are saying, but I don't know how to fix it. Listen, dude, do the program and do it the right way. And it will give you an amazing level of awareness and foundation for you to become who it is you're trying to become. Because man, if you can develop the skill of discipline

and the ability to adhere to a plan, and all you have to do is decide what plan you're going to do for your life, right? Whether it be business, whether it be family, whether it be your fitness or whatever, I could just make a plan. I can decide where I want to go. I can make a plan to get there and I can follow the plan. I'll get there. And dude, it really removes most of the limitations that we have as humans. And you know, that's

been the most powerful thing for me, man. It's like just understanding that I am in control and not these other things. You know exactly it gets it once you do that it Stops that like I was the guy with the call was the excuses, right? Yeah, and it's like, oh well They don't have kids or they don't have you know They've got all this money they've got you know, they've got all these advantages. I don't have right don't have right and Those excuses just yeah, they don't even come in my mind anymore. It's like I'm gonna go do the hard work and... That's badass, dude.

Do what I gotta do. That's awesome. Look how proud you are. I'm so proud of him. That is so cool, dude. That is so cool. That's respect is what that is. That is respect. Alright guys, we're taking a break.

I just want to remind you before we get right back that you can get the 75 heart app in the app store on your phone. It has many tools that will help you stay on track. Very very popular. It's been the number one fitness app for a number of years and you can get it anywhere you get the app. So go get it and we'll get better together. All right. So did you guys follow through and do any of the other phases or did you just do 75 heart? I got pregnant so I didn't but after we had after we had our fourth baby We did 75 heart again. So we did it with four kids. We did three and then four Yeah, I jumped into phase one like two weeks after yeah, and and I felt really good after that, too

I decided phase one, but I never finished the full. That's cool Live hard. Yeah, some people, you know, they just continuously use 75 hard as the tool. It's a good tool It's a it'll get you recalibrated man, you know I do the same thing I do the same thing that you do, you know when I start to notice myself Because a lot of people think because I made the program that I must be like bull like look bro The reason I made the program is I must be like bull, like look bro, the reason I made the program is because I fucking need it. You know what I'm saying? And I am the exact same as all of you. Like I, I tune it up and then it starts to drift and then I tune it up and it starts

to drift, you know, and there's certain habits in my life that really like I maintain pretty much the same physical shape almost all the time. So you don't really see it but I can tell in other areas you know what I mean I could tell when I'm getting sloppy or less detail oriented or less disciplined and it scares the shit out of me because I don't want to go back right you know I'm like fuck dude I'm not going back to that but you have the tools so you don't have yeah yeah yeah so after you guys finished the program the first time, what'd you do after that? Oh, like the next day? No, just yeah. Well, I mean, look, did you, did you, did

you maintain the habits moving forward? I would say most of them. Yes. Um, I mean, still the water, I think that the hardest part for me is the two workouts. We're juggling a lot. And when both of us are doing two 45-minute workouts, it's a lot. But we still exercise every single day and we make that a priority. But I'll say right afterwards,

one thing that helped us going through it, we have a shared album on Instagram that is called After 75 Hard and it's all these food reels in there of places in Arizona. I don't think we've even gone to any of them because I mean, when you're having that craving, if you just know it's there for later, and then when it passes, you don't want it again, dude. Also, like,

I feel like, you know, when you get done, you've got all that momentum. You know, the last thing I want to do is fuck it up. Oh yeah. You know, like I want to create, you know, the one thing I've learned about momentum man is that number one, it's not up to circumstance for it to happen. We create it, right? You guys experienced this through 75 hard. The first 10 days, you're pretty sore, it sucks.

The first 20 days, you're like, fuck, I got to do this. And then by day 30, you're cruising and you've got all this momentum and you feel really good. And creating that momentum, I think understanding that we as human beings are in charge of the momentum that we create. The reason that people create or have felt momentum in the past is if they backtrack it and are honest with themselves, it's because they created it and they didn't catch it. They created it. They went one day, two day, three day, all of a sudden they caught some momentum, right? But that was created and people aren't aware of that. Once you start becoming aware that we could create momentum at any time through force, that's

real powerful. But the one thing that like for me is that once I got it, man, I will do anything to make sure I keep it You know what I mean? Because starting it back up is just it's hard. Yeah, we were definitely more consistent afterwards Yeah, I mean going from him making up excuses Why he wouldn't work out all the time to him actually making a making it a priority every single day and realizing how that One thing impacts every other area of your life. Yeah, that's cool. Exactly. Just starting the day with that, it changed everything. So what was your routine for the program?

Well, like a like a basic day, how would that look? And include your family and everything. Yeah. Yeah. He would wake up before the kid. I can't wake up early. He would wake up at like four o'clock in the morning and go do his first workout. I'd get up Then get the kids ready get them off to school and that's when I would be doing my first and then yeah Well, I'm doing that she's doing her workout

And then we'd try and Usually get something done Before the kids came back from school. Sometimes we'd do stuff together. We'd go for a big family walk with other kids, pushing them in the stroller. We used to walk laps around the park while they would play. Yep.

And then I would always get my reading done first as well before I got the kids ready. So I mean, I'm all over the place. So you would do that right in the morning? I would get all that. So first thing, wake up your reading. I gotta knock everything out. So I mean I'm all over so you were do that right in the morning Yeah, I would get all that. I just so first thing wake up. You're reading. I got to knock everything out Yeah, I'm just trying to knock it out. I was really trying to knock it out sooner Yeah, because if I don't get things done early like it just it sent me in this funk

Yeah, it's like oh And you feel the weight of it you feel the anxiousness of it the anxiety and all of it's getting on you and you're like All right. I gotta get organized And that's where I mean, I've always struggled with the organization in general. But but that that really helped me a lot. Just having that plan and sticking to it because there was a couple of days even later on that I can think of where it was like, yeah, I got out of I got out of bed later. I slept in. So then I was up till 11 12 finishing up these things and

The second time we did 75 hard he failed on day two because he forgot to read and I'm like, I'm sorry I'm not gonna go back and start over with you this time. You can do two extra days. Yep. That's true But yeah, I just did that's really what the day looked like It was just trying to knock things out earlier in the day because then once the kids are home from school Like I said, there's gymnastics. There's All of it yeah, so it's just a matter of it was just trying to stay organized and stick in how old are your kids? we have a Almost two four eight and ten. 10. So are the older ones like wanting to exercise with mom and dad or?

Oh yeah. Really? Yes. Ralph is always like out in the garage wanting to learn how to do pull-ups and stuff and lift weights and my daughter Gretchen and I, we signed up to do a mud girl race together in a couple of weeks. So we're going to do an obstacle course and just really learning how to prioritize health.

I mean, that's another huge thing for me because like you, I grew up loving food. I became overweight and I didn't really have a lot of healthy habits and I know it's my responsibility to teach that to my kids and I ask myself every single day, am I being the woman that I would be proud of my daughters to grow into? And so that is what that is what drives me every single day. That is why I follow through is for my girl. Well, I love my sons too, but mainly for my girls cause I know what they're gonna struggle with in life. And I want them to feel confident

and I want them to know what health is. And I know I need to be that example. And so I'm really excited. You know, our youngest daughter's not quite old enough yet but it's so cool now that I'm able to do that with our older daughter and bond together. And he does that with our son, Ralph too. You pick out your workout outfits together. That's cool. She wants to exercise if she has a cute outfit. It makes a difference. Hey, look good, feel good,

play good. That's right. That's what Jerry Rice used to say that. You look good, you play good. Yep. And that's how she, yeah, she's going through that now, our oldest. I think it's true. It's so fun. I think it's true. Yeah, if you look good, you feel good, you're gonna you're gonna perform good. Exactly. I'm big believer in that So let me ask you this You you are magically right now you could go back and we'll start with you on this David You could go back and and talk To that guy who was, because you weren't just miserable for a little bit,

it took you a long time to make the change, right? Okay. A couple years. So if you now could go back and talk to that guy, what would you say? I would tell him, you gotta get it together and you don't, you know what, you don't understand what you're capable of and

Stop making excuses and Go, I mean like it says here. Yeah, do the work. Yeah do the work. Yeah, so what about you Natasha? well kind of just to say something about that is one thing that was really hard for me is because you know I've been really into my weight loss journey for a long time with having babies and, you know, watching him and his habits and I'm doing other things. It was hard for me because I'm like, why isn't he wanting to do the things that I'm doing? And I realized he's not going to do that until he decides he's going to do it for himself. There's nothing I can do. There's nothing that I can say that's going to turn things around for him.

And so seeing him have that realization that I need I'm the one that needs to do this That's why I did it with him I'm like I need to support you as as much as I can and I'm gonna make sure You know, yes, I got a lot out of it for me But a lot of it why I did it the first time was I want my husband to have success I want him to I want him to know what it feels like to feel good and and to have that mental strength and I Know what he's capable of and I'm so proud of him. That's so cool.

Thank you so much. But yeah, if I had to go back and say anything to myself, I would say there is power in setting an example for other people and sometimes you can't make people show up for themselves, but if you keep showing up for you, maybe one day you will be that inspiration for them. Maybe one day you will be the reason why. You know, one thing I found that helps people get their shit together a little bit more

than, and you've hit on this a couple of times during this conversation, but it's not just about you, dude. It's just not, you know what I'm saying? Like if we tell ourselves, hey, I want to get in shape because I want to look good at the pool or I want my clothes to fit or I want Those are all surface level and they're valid motivations, right? We want to feel good, but those are that's not enough man We have to understand that how we live and the example that we set is going to legitimately affect Other humans life it's going gonna affect what decisions they make, what their outcomes are,

and how the quality of their life is going to turn out. For you guys, it's your kids, but it's also your peers, it's your friends, it's the women that you help in your business. We all have much more impact than we give ourselves credit for. A lot of people will say, hey man, I don't have a big following. Dude, you got people around you, bro. I had a good buddy of mine recently who

Had to close his business if things weren't going well for him He was you know telling I don't have anything left. I'm like, bro You're a great dad. You're a great friend. You're an athlete You have all these good things going for you. Like you have all of these things, dude. You're just discounting it. And I think when we start to realize like, hey man, it's not just about these things that are for us, but it's actually about what our example set means

and how it sets a standard for other people around us. I found that people are more willing to go for that than they are for themselves. You know, like if I'm gonna let down this guy over here to my left and this guy over here to my right by my inaction, I'm gonna do it, right? But if it's just for me, I can sell myself on the idea of, oh, it's not that big of a deal.

Exactly. And I think if we all have, you know, and we all should have, especially as Americans, we should have a sense of obligation to live life at a high standard or at the highest standard that we're capable of. I'm not saying we're gonna be perfect. Like we're gonna screw up, we're gonna make mistakes, we're gonna get off track.

But the reality is, is that we make a genuine, real, consistent effort to be a great example, the world wouldn't look like it does. It would be much better. And I think that responsibility is on all of us. Like I said earlier in the show, a lot of us, we like to look around and complain and bitch and moan and cry about the way things are.

But when we look at ourselves, we're living a shitty example of what it means to even be an American, you know what I mean? And I think it starts with the things that we can control. And I'm not trying to make this a big political statement, but the truth of it is, we can control our food, we can control what we drink, we can control what we eat, we can control what information we put in our minds,

we can control how we treat people, and these are the things that matter the most in our lives. And so if we set that example, that ripple effect moves out and out and out and out, and that's how things get fixed. So you know, if you're out there and you're listening to this and you're like, man, I really want to get my life together. Think about the example that you're setting for the people around you. Think about the example you're setting for your friends,

your family, your kids, your peers at work. Because dude, maybe you can't get enough courage or strength to start for yourself, but you should be able to start for the people around you. And because it matters guys, it really does. It matters the example you live. And this is not about losing weight. This is not about, you know,

going to the swimming pool or going to the beach. We're talking about living a high standard life that matters and impacts people in the best way possible. And I just wanna say that I really appreciate you guys taking that responsibility serious. It's a really refreshing, amazing feeling for me to hear that coming from you. And especially you, David.

Like, I could see it in your voice when we first started talking, bro. Like, I could tell you came from a lost, hurt place. And I could tell you're doing fucking great now. And it's just really, it's awesome, bro. Like, I could tell you came from a lost, hurt place, and I could tell you're doing fucking great now, and it's just really, it's awesome, bro. Like, I can feel it, I know it's real. You know? It is, it's very real.

Yeah. And it's unreal, like you said, the impact that you don't even realize that you have, and even years later, like, a lot of the videos that she's posted of the different transformations have circulated, and then all of a sudden, I'm getting messages from guys like, hey, help me out. Yeah. Like I'm in a tough place.

Yeah. What can I do? What did you do? Tell me what you did. And I'm like, yeah. You're capable of- You can do it, man. Yeah, dude.

If I can, anybody can. I'm a big believer in that. Kind of piggybacking off of that, what I always tell people is marry the action, not the result. You're so focused on, I want to get the car, I want to get the house, I want to get the body. It's like, what do you need to do in order to get there? Now put your focused on, focus on the action because that's also where the real joy comes from is following through, not actually getting to the destination.

Dude, and not only that, like you don't even want the shit you say you want if you're not focusing, if you're not executing that behavior, it's just a fleeting thought. It's like saying, it's like there's a difference in saying, it would be nice to have this versus I'm going to make sure I have this. That's two different things. And most people, they get upset because over the course of their life, they continuously say, it would be nice to do this. It would be nice to do that. But they never make the real decision to make that reality. And it's because of that, it never becomes reality. And then they get bitter and they get upset and they get low belief in themselves. And, you know, they end up

saying, well, I don't have any power to do that or it wasn't in the cards or I didn't get lucky And it's like dude, you're not actually setting a goal You're just saying it in a passive way when it feels nice to say like hey, I'd like to have some extra money I'd like to not be you know, a hundred pounds overweight I'd like to not be you know someone who you know can't say no to food or alcohol or be someone who can't say no to food or alcohol or partying or whatever, like that sounds nice, but I'm not really committed to it. But I am a big believer in what you just said.

If one man can do, another man can do. And if you are willing to make that decision to make, like you're saying, Natasha, your daily tasks, your daily wins in line with the path that you actually want to create. Dude, there's nothing stopping anybody. There really isn't. And it just comes down to can we make the proper decisions when the proper decisions present themselves to us? Or are we going to make the decision that is what our old selves would make? What would be easy?

What could be convenient in the moment. You know, it comes down to the instant gratification. Like, you know, so many people derail their entire lives, their entire dreams over what's comfortable now. And it's not a worthy trade. It's just not. But you can't know it unless you've gone down the path. Right?

I was talking to some of my friends over here at the smoothie bar the other day, Gavin and Anna, and we were talking about how, cause they're, they're newer here and I don't know that they, they didn't realize that I used to be 350 pounds and we were talking about it. And I was like, bro, you know, if I could, if I could go back and talk to that version of myself and explain to myself how much better things could really be if you just did these things that are minorly uncomfortable for a short amount of time, because the reality is,

after you do it for three or four weeks, it becomes habit anyway, and you're like, this is great, I feel good. If you could just get through that first block, dude, of being uncomfortable, having your body be a little sore, having to eat food that, you know, maybe you are not used to eating, dude, the trade off is just, it's not, it's not describable unless you've lived it. It's just not, you know, and it goes back to what you were saying about people who are unhealthy and they're so used to being in that place that they don't realize

how good they could feel. Their normal feeling is literally like the worst feeling that you would feel once you've taken care of that problem. Yes. And it's sad. It is sad. It's sad, bro. Yeah, but I mean,, even I'm sure you feel

this way too, but being a hundred pounds overweight, sometimes I look back and I'm, I'm mad at myself for letting me get there. Yes. Like, why did I do that? And why did I live so much life that way? Exactly. Yeah. Then at the same time, I'm so incredibly grateful that that happened to me because of how I was able to transform on the inside. And because I've been able to use that to inspire so many other women who are stuck in that spot and just not loving who they are and waking up every single day and just wondering is this it and why am I still overweight like you can do something about it you just got to do one one thing at a time one step at a time dude that is I am I the same way. Sal and I talk about this too, because my brother, who's the CEO here at First Form,

we've always struggled with our weight. We've always been athletes, but we've always had the fat kid gene. Like legitimately, we both have it. And, you know, I just wish I could like, sometimes, I mean, I'm super thankful, like you said. If I hadn't have gone through that, I mean I'm super thankful like you said. If I hadn't have gone through that,

I wouldn't be able to relate to people and understand what they've been through in any sort of meaningful way. Like this conversation would be very empty, right? Like I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about. What's it like to be overweight? I don't know, I've always been in shape. And there's a lot of that in the fitness industry, right?

There's a lot of people who look real good, who have always- You don't know, I've always been in shape. And there's a lot of that in the fitness industry, right? There's a lot of people who look real good, who have always- You don't know what it's like. Yeah, who have always looked pretty good, right? And one of the things that Sal and I always talk about is how thankful we are that we've struggled with that because it's allowed us to understand what the struggle is. And then that's allowed us to help so many other people

realize and unlock their potential and take control of their lives. And honestly dude, like that's the coolest part about it. You know that. You know, the coolest part is not what we've done for ourselves, but it's like, you know, like your firefighter friend, you know what I mean? Steven, right? Yeah.

So, or your clients who come in and they're lost and they're powerless and then they figure out that they have to fix this to fix everything else. You know, I was pointing at my head for those of you guys on audio. But it truly is a mental game. And that was a big turning point in my life, dude. Like when I realized that this is mental,

it's a mental game, It's a mental test. I'm good at that. But I never really understood that's what it was. I always looked at it from the outside in. I always looked at it like, probably like how most of everybody looks at it. You feel like you're being controlled by everything around you. And you're like, no, I have the power.

I'm the one that gets to make the decisions here. But dude, like my ego, right? Like we all have an ego. Let's be real. Everybody has one. My ego, let's be real, everybody has one. My ego has always been based in, I wanted to be mentally tough, but inside of my heart, I knew that I wasn't.

And so like I craved being that in a genuine way. And once I figured out that like, dude, the reason that you're fat and the reason that you're unhappy and the reason that you don't feel good about yourself Is because you're not Training your mind the right way and once I saw it like that, dude It changed the game it changed the game from you know, oh, I'm on a diet too. You know what fuck that food

Those nachos they don't have power over me that alcohol. It doesn't have power over me You know what has power over me that alcohol. It doesn't have power over me. You know what has power over me me Yeah, it's taking accountability like you are that you are where you are because of you You are not where you are because of anyone else and that goes for everybody Yes And once you realize that you're like man I have the power if I'm the one that gets to decide where I want to go like I can I can do anything Yeah for sure

So guys I want to we're gonna close out here, and I would like for both of you guys to, you know, sort of talk to the people out there, man. You know, because there's a lot of people that listen that are in that position that we've been in. You know what I'm saying? Where they feel powerless, they feel like they need to get their lives together,

but they just don't know that they can or they don't believe, you know? So talk to them for a minute while we close out. I would say all you need to do is make a decision. It is truly a decision to decide that I'm gonna show up for myself, I'm gonna do these things, and once you decide that failure is not an option,

you're gonna be able to get better But it truly does just start with starts with deciding like I'm gonna I'm gonna follow through I'm I'm tired of lying to myself I'm finally gonna keep those promises and I'm I've deciding that I'm in control and I'm doing this Yep, it's I would say I would kind of echo what she said and then just say make the decision it's 100% mental and Don't quit know it's gonna be hard to like it's not called welcome It's hard or 75 easy. Yeah, I went into it knowing like this is gonna be hard. This is gonna suck There's gonna be days. I don't want to show up

There's probably gonna be books that I don't like, but I'm deciding I'm gonna do it even though it's gonna be hard and I'm gonna be a better person for it. That's what's up, that's what it is. Guys, I wanna close by saying this. First of all, I appreciate you guys coming all the way here from Arizona to do the show. A lot of people are gonna be helped because of this.

But more so, I appreciate you guys living the example. We need more of that. You guys are doing it, you're helping other people doing it. And I think that's one of the most needed things that we have going on in the world right now. And I think it's very, very, very underrated and extremely important.

And so I wanna commend you guys and thank you guys for doing that. It matters a lot. And that goes for all of you guys that are doing that out there as well I just want to say this last thing, you know If you're out there and you feel powerless and you feel like you can't control what's going on in your life I would highly encourage you to do 75 hard and do it the right way. It is a free

Program it is free. You can get it at episode 208 on the audio feed. It will give you the entire program. Now there is a book that you can buy. It is not free. It is on my website, andyfrucell.com. It's called the book on mental toughness. It will give you the entire live hard program plus a whole bunch of chapters on mental toughness. It will make you a student of the game, so to speak. And you don't need it. I'm not telling you to buy it. You can do it for free.

But the book, we have a trouble keeping it in stock. People like it. So, but if you're one of these people and you're struggling, please take a minute and just evaluate where you would be if you were able to adhere to all the goals, all the dreams, all the plans that you have made for yourself in the past

and have failed on. Where would your life be? And then the second thought needs to be that you can become that person. And all of these things that you want for yourself, your fitness, your relationship, your career, these are all a product of your ability to follow a plan. And the reason you're struggling right now is because you haven't developed the skill

set of discipline, which would then help you develop the skill sets of grit, fortitude, which then help you build self-belief, self-esteem, and confidence, which gives you all the intangible, magical tools that we always think other people are born with that we are actually responsible for creating. So please understand this. You are in control and you are where you are because of the decisions that you've made so far. But just because you made those decisions in the past, doesn't mean that's who you are now. You are a product of those decisions, it doesn't mean who you are.

You can become a different person today by committing to these new behaviors. And while your life may not change today, it will eventually. And you'll become that person of those behaviors. So I just really, really want you to believe that because I spent a lot of time, and I know you guys have too,

feeling like you weren't in control and feeling like it was this massive struggle. And once that click over in your mind happens, that this is about discipline and developing a perishable skill, it changes your life life and that's what I want for people man I want them to live their life I want them to be happy I want you guys to be impactful and set a good example and it starts with us if we want to fix the world if we want to fix society we have to realize that we are the world and we

are society and how we're living is a reflection of What our world is going to become so? Again, I really really really appreciate you guys coming in amazing stories I'm proud of both of you guys. I'm especially proud of you, bro. Like I can fucking hear your voice It's super cool, and that's nothing to take away I'm proud of you. Yeah, I can I see it on him, and I can hear it, and it makes me feel good, bro. Yeah, it's amazing.

It's really amazing what, just to echo what you said, it's 75 days, guys, and your whole life will change. Yeah. 75 days is such a small blip of your whole life. You can do anything for that long. Wild. Where can people follow you guys? So, well, I don't think Dave's on any socials right now.

You can follow me at at Natasha Pearson and that's spelled P-E-H-R-S-O-N, the H comes first. On Instagram, TikTok, my website, natashapierson.com. I have my program linked on there, the Body Confidence Academy. That's where I help women change their mindset, start to lose weight, start building your beliefs. So you do believe you can do a program like this.

Yeah, and I'm just at Davy P. Or no, at davidpearson.com. All right. All right, guys. Well, I appreciate you guys. And you guys out there in the internet, make sure that you understand you have this ability to, and you have this power to. You've just been taught to believe that is a trait

when in reality it is a skill. So get to work building those skills, do what you got to do. And maybe one day you'll be sitting over here and we'll be talking about you. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. All right guys, that's the show. Don't forget to share the show show but also don't forget that the 75 hard app is a massively beneficial tool that will help you stay on programs

so if you're gonna go start the 75 hard program like many people are I'd highly recommend downloading the app it'll help you stay on track it'll give you reminders as a bunch of tools that are available to help you guarantee success. All right? You can get that anywhere. Apps are sold. All right? So guys, let's go out and let's kick some ass. Millions in the cold, bad bitch, booty swole Got her on bankroll, can't fold, just a note Headshot, case closed