REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 860. Q&AF: How To Stop Doubting Yourself, Paralysis Analysis & How To Hire Help
Episode Date: March 31, 2025On today's episode, Andy answers your questions on how to stop doubting yourself as a young entrepreneur, how to stop the habit of obsessively second guessing yourself, and how to hire help for your b...usiness when you do everything on your own.
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What is up guys, it's Andy Purcell and this is the show for the realest say goodbye to
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Andy question number one. Hey Andy. Hi
So I came to follow you a little over a year ago and dude seriously. Thank you
I am 25 years young,
but I'm not doing a finding myself in a van thing.
However, I am committed to just becoming the version
of myself I know that I can become.
But here's the thing,
I second guess every decision I make.
Even when my gut tells me something, I doubt myself and
overanalyze. I want to be able to trust myself and my instincts instead of always looking
to others for some sort of reassurance. I know you consistently speak on the importance
of building and having self-confidence, but I guess specifically, how do I build that
confidence in my own judgment?
Okay, well first of all, you're 25, bro. You don't have a ton of real adult decision-making
experience. Let's be real, you know, and when you don't have all that experience,
it's natural to second-guess yourself. So we all go through this. It's not just you we all go through a
transition period
Where you know all the way up until maybe we're done with college. We're kind of getting told what to do and how to do it
And then you know some people younger than others. There's always you know nuance
but typically
When we are in our young to mid twenties,
we are learning how to make decisions,
feeling the consequences of those decisions and either building up our trust in
ourselves or taking away.
And what I would say to you is that the fact that you're aware of this is a huge
advantage because most people aren't aware they just continue to make bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
Meaning they're making whatever decision they need to make that makes them feel good.
Now they don't understand delayed gratification.
thinking ahead of what the decision will actually produce down the road and the fact that you're aware of this at a young age is really really really really
good it's a good indicator that you are going to build a very good skill set of
making the right decisions when these decisions are to be made so you have to
understand that your confidence and your belief in yourself
is really only going to come after you've made good decision after good decision after good decision
and then a few bad ones too right and then we learn from those lessons and then we become either
very confident or we we stay unaware.
We don't get really beat down because the people
who continue to make wrong decision after wrong decision,
they see life as something that's like happening to them.
Like they are not thinking like,
I'm making this decision in November
and then in December, my life sucks.
They're not understanding that.
They're unaware.
So making bad
decisions doesn't necessarily destroy someone's confidence, it destroys their
life. So the fact that you are understanding that there is a decision
to be made, there are consequences down the road, that's a great thing. But the way
you're going to become confident in is by making the best decision that you can
make now and then understanding
you know what the result of that is with your own experience and as you get older and as
you go through this process you will become more and more and more confident in your decisions
and that goes for both your life and your career whatever else you're working on. You know, there's still times in my life
knowing what I know about business,
you know, where I'm like, fuck, I don't know.
Fuck, I don't know.
Like, what should we do?
You know, and then we work out the options
and we make the best decision.
And when we make the best decision,
that doesn't always mean it actually is the best decision.
Sometimes you just have to make
a decision, see what happens, and then make an adjustment, which I would say is really how things
actually work in life. You know, not many times have I made a decision when I was young that worked
out exactly the way I thought it was going to work out. What it did was it directed me in a right direction and then when I went down that path I had to make multiple pivots
as I went down the path to really get where I was trying to go. But the important thing,
the real important thing here is not even the question that you ask. It's that you have
to make a fucking decision. Okay? Most people will
analyze and analyze and analyze and analyze and they never choose and
because they never choose life passes them by and then they end up at you know
50 years old saying coulda woulda shoulda. No, you should just pick some shit and
whatever happens happens you learn you know and and then you you apply again, and so that's the process of of
Development you know we make the best decision that we can make right now
We listen to our gut we look at the facts we make it on logic
There's very few decisions in life that should be made around emotion
We make those decisions we go down the path
We make those decisions. We go down the path.
We figure out if it's working or not,
and then we make pivots.
And that's just how it goes, man.
And I know that like you guys consume
all of this information all day on Instagram
from all these people who legitimately
haven't done a motherfucking thing
telling you how to do things
and what their philosophy is,
or this or that or this
I would encourage you to listen to what people say who have actually accomplished what it is you want to do and
Live the kind of life that you want to live and ignore all these theory theoretical
Bozos on the internet who honestly don't know shit because if they did they would be
Not just writing memes on the internet. Okay?
So make the decision, make it the best you can, go down the path. When you recognize that the
decision is not working, which you have to be patient, you make a pivot or you make a
complete different directional change. You don't make a complete different directional change until you've tried multiple pivots and you realize this isn't going to work
Right, like a lot of people will ask me they say well when should I quit?
When should I quit my business? You know my i've got this product
Look, dude
If you if you go if you go down the path and you figure out for real
That that product is not going to get you where you want to go meaning you can't scale it there's no
demand for it it's not a good strong product eventually you got to find a new
product or you're just gonna be trying to stick a square peg in a round hole it
does not work so there are times that I don't talk about this very much, but there are times when you have
to make complete directional changes.
The reason I don't talk about it very much is because most people think that that happens
soon when in reality you have to go down the path and try all the different routes.
It's kind of like a mouse in a maze.
All right.
Like you're like, Oh, I know the cheese is over that way.
So I'm gonna fucking go this way.
That didn't get me there.
I'm gonna go this way.
That didn't get me there.
And then I'm gonna find the way to the fucking cheese.
And like, if you don't go through that process
with your product, to the point where you have
a really good understanding of why it's not going to work,
not just your emotional beliefs or your frustration or your
anger or your impatience, meaning you logically can say, I, there's not a market for this.
It's not going to be scalable. It's not going to work out the way I want. Then you have
to make a change and that goes for anything. You can plug product in with relationship.
You can plug product in with fitness. Okay. You got gotta figure the fuck out. And if here's what I'll say,
if one person's done it, you could probably do it too.
So the decision making process
and have any confidence in that is something,
it's one of those things that you have to do your best
and work out the nuances to get where you're trying to go.
And after you do that enough and you make enough good decisions where you're trying to go.
And after you do that enough and you make enough good decisions,
you'll start to trust yourself and you'll say,
I know how to make the right decisions.
I love it.
Yeah, I mean, you talk like, I mean,
it sounds like a lot of this is just being able to,
you know, go through the time to build that perspective.
I guess that's the important thing.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, dude, yes.
Like my decision-making ability now versus when I was 25
is the difference between starting at zero
and being an expert.
You're running circles around that guy.
Oh, dude, no doubt.
Because I've already made all the mistakes.
Like, dude, if you're trying to get somewhere
and if I'm trying to get from here in St. Louis to LA and,
and over the last 20 years I took every motherfucking road. Well, you know,
and then you ask me when I'm 20 years later, you say how to get there.
I'm gonna say right like there. That's, that's the road right there.
Don't go down this road.
Yeah. And by the way,
this ties into why it's important to learn from people who have had real
ties into why it's important to learn from people who have had real business experience, not just built real things, but built real things in different environments. You know,
like I was pre internet, then we were right when the internet came, then we were when
social media came, then we were through the 2008 financial crisis, then we went through
fucking COVID.
Now we're going through AI revolution.
Like bro, I've been through all that shit and we're still here.
We're still going.
There's a lot of valuable information, most of it, that I can provide that none of these
other motherfuckers can.
You see what I'm saying?
So it's really important that, you know, I'm not saying you just have to listen to me,
but I am saying that whoever you listen to needs to have been through all of those things
Because dude the real truth about being successful is the ability to adapt quickly
right the ability to pivot quickly when things happen and
You know, that's decision-making for sure last little piece on this own actually very like very simple question here
You know when it comes down to decision making,
I guess what's one thing,
if there's an equation to decision making, right?
The perfect equation.
What's one thing that is not in that equation?
Usually emotions.
Okay, let's talk about it.
Look, there are certain ways,
there's certain times in your life where making an emotional
decision is okay, all right, but most of the time you want to eliminate emotions
from the situation. For example, you know, I like cars, so people will say, well you
don't fucking need those cars. No shit, I don't need those cars. Motherfucker. I don't need those cars motherfucker. I don't need a car. I live four miles from work
I can ride a fucking bike okay, but
the experience that I get from the cars adds to the quality of my life
okay, so I
Am willing to invest money because my cars appreciate for the most part
I am willing to invest money, because my cars appreciate for the most part,
into that quality of life experience,
which is tied into my emotions, right?
If I was unemotional about that decision,
I would ride a bike,
because I could legitimately ride a bike.
Or if I, maybe I could ride a motorcycle,
or a fuck, whatever, right?
A scooter.
Like, I could, if you're talking practicality,
you're correct.
I don't need any of those cars,
but it's fucking cool to have them, okay?
And it makes my life more enjoyable to me.
I like driving, I like performance driving,
I like knowing about cars, I like feeling good
when I pull up somewhere that I'm getting out
of some cool shit.
That shit makes me feel good.
And you can say whatever the fuck you want.
I'm honest with myself enough to understand that.
So that's an emotional decision that makes my life better.
Where you live, people will say,
well, you know, you need to, when you're young,
it's very important to make the correct logical decision
about where you decide to
live because you are working on accumulating assets and wealth for later in your life.
When I got to 40 years, 38 years old, I bought my dream house, which is the house I live
in now. And it's fucking amazing. It's probably like real talk. It's probably one of the nicest
properties in the whole fucking world. Okay. It's a like real talk. It's probably one of the nicest properties in the whole fucking world
Okay, it's a fucking real compound. Do I need that? No
But I love it because you know what I spend a lot of time there
I spend most of my time either here or there and by the way
Did I need to build out this headquarters to look the way it looks?
No, but I have to spend a lot of time here and I want it to be fucking cool.
Okay? So those are emotional decisions that don't necessarily make financial sense.
All right? For the amount of money that I put in my house, I'm gonna get my balls kicked in when I
sell it. You ever try to sell that thing? It's not gonna happen. But I don't care. I don't care.
Because I've made enough money in my life to not have that make a difference on what I actually want. So
Earlier in life, it's important especially to make logical decisions. I would say under 40 years old
Logic logic logic logic unless you're earning so much money and and I was in my earlier 30s
That it didn't fucking matter, okay?
But you shouldn't be stretching, you understand?
So,
when you get a little older
and you get some financial power
and maybe a little extra,
it's okay to make decisions that are emotional
if they make you happier. as long as you're aware
That's it. You have to be aware, you know, like
Most people just aren't bro. They they cannot separate a logical decision from an emotional decision in which time which is appropriate
You know, so
It's okay to make emotional decisions when they're not gonna to hurt you and then they're going to add to your life, right?
um
but until you're at that point where it's
Not a financial strain
To live the lifestyle that you want you should live very logical
And be working to maximize, you know, what sort
of income that you actually have. Live below your means, make smart decisions. Don't go
out to eat all the time. Drive a car that isn't the one that you actually really like
to drive. Those are all intelligent decisions as a younger person. As you get older, you
start to realize, well, fuck, I'm going to be dead. The quality of my life matters as well. So I want to spend a little more money on the
things that I like and enjoy. You know, so I'm not just, you know, it's, it's weird to
me. This is, I see like 70, 80 year old people, 60 year old people, 50 year old people still
living completely in that logic mindset and I you know
and we see him online too, right like
You know Dave Ramsey, okay, and I like Dave Ramsey, but he will give
You know save save save save save this is this is well dude. Eventually these motherfuckers gonna be dead
Like what when do they get a taste of what they actually want?
All the hard work they've put in.
You see what I'm saying?
100%.
And let's be real, bro, he has like a fucking
500, $600 million fucking office park.
Right.
You know, like Dave lives in a nice house.
So he gets it, you know, but I think he's saying
the same thing I'm saying just in a different way.
For sure.
You know, we make smart decisions until we are in a place
where we can afford to make emotional decisions.
I love that.
I love it, man.
Guys, Andy, question number two.
Andy, I have a strong business mindset
and customers and people in general everywhere
tend to like me and trust me.
I know I'd be excellent at owning a biz.
You and everybody else, brother.
That being said, there are a trillion different business ideas that can make money nowadays.
Literally a trillion.
I don't have a tremendous passion for anything in particular So how does someone that is experiencing?
analysis paralysis
Settle for one opportunity and stay determined to make money at all
How do you know you didn't choose the wrong opportunity when the biz gets turbulent and bail on it?
I try not to be a hoe but hey old habits die hard
bell on it. I try not to be a ho, but hey, old habits die hard.
Okay. Well, let's just break this down.
You don't know if you're going to be a great business operator. You have no fucking idea. How old is that person? Didn't say, okay.
It doesn't matter. You have no idea until you know. All right.
There's been people who have all the fucking check marks and all the
attributes and all the special
shit and they suck okay and then you have people who are borderline special
needs who create amazing crush it dude I know a guy yeah I know a guy who could
not fucking read or write that because he was a he was an executor. He would just go out and do shit
He did not think about it. He didn't have the brain capacity to think about it. Okay
You just did shit and he built a company that was worth 200 300 million dollars. Okay
Now he made some other bad decisions and that guy is now in prison
Yeah, but it didn't have to do with fraudulent business. He was running a good business
And that guy is now in prison. Yeah, but it didn't have to do with fraudulent business. He was running a good business
But my point is There's guys like that everywhere all right
So just because you fucking think you can do it and just because you know a lot of like people who went to nice prestigious
universities like Harvard or Brown or Cornell they think they can do it, but you know what the truth is the truth is there is a
Lot of motherfuckers with some fancy initials behind their name that never did shit
All right
So I don't really give a fuck what you think you can do until you've shown me that you can do it proofs in the put
So let's let's be humble here, bro
You're talking about the most competitive fucking game that you could possibly play.
All right.
People are trying to take the food off of your fucking table.
Can you even handle that?
Can you even handle knowing that?
Can you handle the relentless pursuit that other people have of you trying to take your
fucking livelihood?
Then can you handle it for fucking thousands of people?
Okay. you can't
Most of the time that's why the statistics are what they are
8% of people are entrepreneurs less than fucking 1% of that 8% is actually a millionaire or successful
Alright, so
Let's clear that out. Now. I'm not saying you can't learn it. I'm not saying you can't do it
I'm not saying you can learn to be great at it
But I'm saying if you think you're naturally great at it, you've never done shit. You're fucking fooling yourself
So let's address that right up front. I love it
secondly
When you're young I
Believe that in the entrepreneurship
Stage that we are in, it's important for
you to try a few different things, examine what it is that you're into, okay?
You might say, oh I'm not passionate about this. What do you do every day?
Let's start there. What is your daily routine like? What do you do every single day? I get up. I brush my teeth. I take a shower. I go to the gym. I do this. I do that. What's the one thing
that you can't live without that you find extremely beneficial to you and your day? What is it?
And when you identify those three or four things, how could they be made better?
Okay, and start thinking like that and everything that you see like when I go to a restaurant
I'm not in the restaurant business, but you've been to enough restaurants with me to know exactly what the fuck I do
Yep, I sit at the table
I order the food and I say they should have done this should done that should done this if these guys were doing this
They'd have five times much business.
I fucking do that.
I analyze how everyone does everything
and that is a trained way of thinking
that I've had for many, many years
because who knows what kind of idea will come from that.
So to say you're not passionate about anything,
I don't even think that's true.
I think there's things that you are passionate about.
You've just not thought about how you can make them better or how you could sell them
as a product.
And I would encourage you to do that.
Third of all, you don't have to be passionate about fucking anything.
You can be passionate about making motherfucking money.
Okay. by making motherfucking money, okay? But I will say this, that while that is cool,
when you don't have any money to start making money
and you say, fuck, I love making money,
you will eventually get to a point
where if you are doing it just for that,
you will be burnt out, you will hate your life,
you will be miserable, and you will be searching for meaning and purpose and something that you do.
And so the reason that we recommend people be passionate
about things when they start is because there is a lag time
where you start the business and where it becomes successful,
that is very hard for people to get through.
And most of the time,
the only reason people can get through
that part of the business
is because they actually care about
what the fuck they're doing.
So if you are passionate about something
that you are actually building a business around,
your chances of sticking it out
during this lag time go up.
All right?
So, and I will say this,
even the thing you're most passionate about,
over the course of time,
you're gonna go in and out of being passionate about that.
There's been many times in my life
where I haven't been passionate about what I do every day,
and then got out of that funk and got more passionate again,
and then back and forth and back and forth
That's normal and a lot of people the first time that happens the first time they lose a little they get in that one of those
Funks they're like fuck
I don't have this passion for it anymore
And then they fucking quit and they got to go start over if you just stick with it dude
It'll come back so we see a lot of people fail in that regard
During those those those
times when we don't feel great about what we're doing and it's just normal. Don't
do that. But yeah man, if I were you instead of saying you know I'm not
passionate about anything I would say well I can't I need to really examine
what it is I would like to do if I only had to do this every single
day of my life for free.
Okay.
And I can say that like I love helping people.
I love people getting better.
I like making people better with their finances, with their fitness, their mindset.
Fuck I do this shit for free.
Yeah.
You know, I love this shit.
So even like for me, even if I,
if you were to ask me like, what would you do every day
if you didn't get paid for it,
I would still do the same shit.
I'd come in here, I'd help where I can,
I'd do the show and you know,
I would find fulfillment in that.
And so, you know, when you're in the beginning stages
and you can't figure out what your passion is
You need to get passionate about making some fucking money and you need to save that money
So that you can roll it into something that you are passionate about whenever you do become passionate about it
And then you can build a business out from there. I love it. Now you started when you were 19
Yeah, how many what were some of the other I guess pathways you tried before you?
With s2. I tried pathways you tried before you fuck with s2?
I tried to I tried to buy into this
internet yellow pages
Situation which because before listen
before Google
There was no way to
Search the internet so like everything back in the day
Was you had to pull out a fucking phone book and you had to like
Look for shit. Yeah, right. Okay
Kids now can't even comprehend that there was a book that had everybody's number everybody's right and in businesses it would it would be categorized
It would also be sorted by their name
Um, there was a yellow pages and there was a white pages
The yellow pages was sorted by category the white pages sorted by name
All right, and you got two for free. You got one of each for free at your house every single year. All right
That is crazy to think about that's what they did
Okay, now it's all here on your phone. Hold on bro, but but when they when the internet started to get popular
Google hadn't really
started to get popular, Google hadn't really matured into what it is today, and there certainly wasn't AI or anything like that. So this dude created this
thing called Internet Yellow Pages and he sold out franchises. I tried that,
didn't fucking work, okay? I had to go door-to-door to businesses and try to get
him to sign up for something that nobody really understood
was gonna be beneficial at all.
So that was a failed thing.
I tried an internet dating service.
That was a failed thing.
I tried fucking, you know.
What is it about tanning beds or some shit?
Yeah, tanning beds.
Couldn't get enough money to do it.
Painting the stripes on parking lots. Could never get enough money to do it. Painting the stripes on parking lots.
Couldn't ever get enough money to do that on our own.
I mean, bro, I could go on and on and on.
I had a different fucking thing every single year
trying to build something out.
From the time I was eight until the time I started
with Chris, S2, right?
And so none of those things was I really passionate about
except the baseball card thing that I did.
But I didn't know enough about,
I was only like fucking 10 when I did that.
Right?
But yeah, dude, I mean most of the shit,
and by the way, I still know a lot of the lessons
I learned through that process,
which allowed me to create the retail
stores which is what bore first form and you know it's no different than what I tell you
guys you're gonna have to go through shit I just started when I was real young you know
so yeah dude there's a I mean there's a lot of shit like I did a I did nightclub promotion
for
Concerts when I was in college to try and make some side money, you know, and that actually worked out
Okay, I made a little bit of money doing that
To kind of float me through, you know not getting paid at the stores
But I mean there's all kinds of things that honestly didn't work
But there's also things that could have worked had I stuck with had I stuck with it, right? Yeah for 100% man
I love it man. Well guys, let's get to my third and final question. Mr. Andy
Guys any question number three
Hey Andy
So full disclosure, I'm not an entrepreneur
I mainly listen to you for the other good stuff on Tuesdays and Fridays when yeah
But my best friend is and he listens to the show as well
He has been in business for like four years now
Making beautiful amazing woodwork. I mean like seriously amazing stuff dining tables that he sells for like
$15,000. Oh
Really dope shit and he is crushing it. Here's the thing
The dude does it all $15,000. Oh. Really dope shit, and he is crushing it. Here's the thing.
The dude does it all.
From the production, wood procurement, marketing, sales, inventory, concept, design, like a
thousand hats.
We have been talking more recently about him hiring employees.
I see how hard he works, runs around like a chicken with his head cut off, and I tell
him all the time, bro, you need help.
You're going to need help.
Many hands lighten the load, et cetera.
But he stands firm and says, I'm good, don't need him.
Because he is being a pussy, and I know he wouldn't ask,
can you talk some sense into him
for the love of our dear Lord and Savior?
All jokes aside, I don't wanna lose my best friend
from a heart attack because he thinks he doesn't need the help much love from detroit well look it depends on what his operational
goals are you know some people just want to be artists like what he's doing is an art to him
so when we think of you know business we have to understand that not everybody's trying to be a
fucking billionaire not everybody's trying to be worth a hundred million dollars. Not everybody's even trying to make a million dollars
They're just trying to not have to work a regular job that they don't get fulfillment out of so it depends on what kind of person
He is and what his goals are because if he's just a one-man operation making super high quality shit
You know, there's a lot of fulfillment
in that. In fact, when we went down to see Jesse James, Jesse James is an artist. He's
in his shop doing the work himself. Now, does he have people that do other things? Yes,
absolutely. But he is an artist. And I think that, and I could be wrong. I think that and I could be wrong I think that he would do
the shit for free and I think he would do it on his own and do all of it on his
own and I bet he did for a long time and then you know he realized hey man I want
to make some fucking money doing this so they span it into an actual company and
dude honestly I think he's one of the best entrepreneurs out there that
doesn't get the credit for being such a great entrepreneur.
I mean, dude, he sold fucking like a,
like some sort of bolt,
like billion dollars worth of fucking apparel
off of his brand.
Like crazy.
Yeah, like dude, he's crushed it.
But at heart, he's an artist, right?
And he loves the work
and he gets fulfillment from the work.
And so if your friend is one of these guys, he might be doing exactly what he wants.
If you think that he's killing himself and he's saying, fuck, I'm so big, maybe he needs
to hire some executive assistant or somebody, a COO or a CEO that will run all the business
affairs for him so he can focus on what he does best, you know
There's lots of solutions to this problem depending on where he wants to take it
But I just got to be real with you
I mean some of my friends who are tremendous at what they do
They're just artists that make shit to sell and they fucking love that so
If he if that's what he loves, leave him the fuck alone.
You know what I'm saying?
But if he wants to turn that into a business
that does 30, 50, 100 million dollars,
it probably could easily be done.
You could build out a few people
that would handle all the logistical shit
and the minutia of running a business.
He could concentrate on what he does.
He could bring in apprentices to help him and maybe as it goes, you know, help them
learn how to do similar to what he does.
But I also bet that people are buying these tables because he fucking does them.
So there's a lot of ways to scale those out.
But ultimately comes down to what does the artist actually want? You know, you know how many great photographers
I know that could be fucking worth a hundred million dollars that just don't they just do what they're one thing or
You know
Sculptors or fucking people that work with their hands like bro
these these people are built different than then you know most people and and the truth of the matter is
Entrepreneurship is also a creative art.
That's what people don't understand.
It's not corporate this, this, this, this, this
until you get to that fucking way up level, right?
Where you're managing so many people,
there has to be rules set in stone.
But small business, I think,
is the most fun kind of business
because you get to be close with all your people,
there's a common goal, you get to build a strong team,
it's fun, it's not, like how the fuck do I go to dinner
with fucking hundreds of people?
You know what I'm saying?
Like I can't do that.
But back in the early days when there was 20 of us,
or 10 of us, yeah, we fucking hung out all the time,
it was awesome.
My favorite memories of building the company were those days
um
And you know
It's just all the phase of life where you're at. Did he say how old he is? Uh, no, he didn't he didn't say
Yeah, I mean look bro
If you really care about him and you really uh, you know, you really think you can help him
Why don't you draw a little plan for him? You know on how you could help him. Why don't you say here? Here's what you could do to lighten your load and
And even make more money you see what I'm saying for sure so
You know not everybody who creates is an actual effective entrepreneur. You know
Having the business sense and the marketing ability and and the brand ability and all these things those things
the business sense and the marketing ability and the brand ability and all these things, those things, you know, they are a different skill set than making a $15,000 table that's
amazing.
Yeah.
So, you know, maybe taking some of that profit and reinvesting into a team, you know, will
help them scale, have less actual workload and make more money.
I mean, that's the truth.
That's what you're talking about.
And I'm very confident that that would be the result of streamlining what he has going on. So it depends on what he wants to do, bro. And if he wants to make more money than that, I mean,
fuck dude, you could take that all the way. It just depends on where you want to go.
So I'd start with, you know, him listening to what I'm saying, you evaluating whether
or not that's what he wants, him evaluating if that's what he wants, decide where he wants
to take the business and then make a plan from there.
You know, because dude, in the early days of entrepreneurship, and I see a lot of guys
do this, you know, they're in that creative mode where they're creating the product and they get so busy that they can't think
Of how to scale the business out because they're just running the business
I think you've described it before is like you're working in the business and you got a switch to work on the on the business
But but when you're the one creating the shit, you know
Like like when you're the one baking the fucking cakes and people are buying the cakes because you're baking them. Yeah
That's a little bit different of a situation. Yeah for sure, you know, but people do it bro. Like look Katie's pizza
Who I use as an example people used to go to Katie's because fucking Katie made the motherfucking pizzas, right?
Now she sells pizzas in Walmart and they're fucking amazing
Many restaurants throughout st. Louis that have a very good reputation because guess what they're good
and she was able to
Take her culinary skill set and scale that and you could do that with your woodworking as well
And it could still be you know your brand whatever that's called. There's all kinds of different ways to do this, bro
And the least effective way is to do it all yourself and run yourself into the dirt
You know, you could probably do way less work by getting a little help. You'll make way more money
and build a much more successful company without sacrificing the fulfillment in the enjoyment or
The brand quality that he gets from doing it himself. So it's just about
What do you want? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like everybody thinks that when I'm taught and I am for the most part
Because most people want to make as much money as they can for sure
But not everybody does some people just want to make enough
Some people just want to improve their life and give them some more freedom
And then they want to live their life, you know
And it sounds like he's not able to do that because of how busy is would work
So, you know, I know I'm throwing a lot of different scenarios at you
But you know one of those scenarios is the right one and if you if you really think you have good ideas for your buddy
Why don't you map it out and kind of show it and say hey, why don't we do it this way?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
This is honestly I
Get excited hearing these questions for MFCO, come back.
Bro, we've been recording the episodes.
I fucking love it.
Like I, look, that's my fucking wheelhouse, bro.
Yeah.
You know, I've been doing something that people wanna do
for as long as most of them have been alive, okay?
I'm the dude that all these other motherfuckers out here, you know, are
trying to pretend they are.
They don't have the experience.
They don't have the actual business.
The most of most of them.
OK.
The answer I just gave like that's
not an answer that you would know
unless you've been through it.
Can't pull that out. Yeah.
So like, look,
man.
Yeah, I'm excited about it too, I'm excited to really
Switch from bringing aware. We all understand. I think at this point in time that
the country has issues that we need to take responsibility for to fix and
The next phase of making you know this country what it should be is getting the young people to understand how things actually work, helping them collapse that timeframe from trial and error being 10 years now because of technology instead of 20 or whatever, right? Down to a few years. You know what I mean? And just help these people become independent financially,
become fit physically, become intelligent.
Because the thing is, is we have to become everything
that they tell us that we shouldn't.
Which is, they wanna make it okay for us being fat
and sitting in front of TV and then getting sick.
And the reason they wanna do this and being poor
Is for control they want us to mega consume all of their things. They want us to be dependent
They want us to sit in front of the tv and eat a bunch of shit. So then you know
We're not only subscribing to the data and using up all the data, but then we require their medications as well
um
The the big food companies are propagating this, you know,
it all ties together, dude.
And personal excellence is the ultimate rebellion
to all of this shit.
And part of that personal excellence
is making a lot of fucking money,
which is what I love to talk about.
I love it.
So I'm excited to get it going too.
And by the way, if you are wanting to listen to it
It's not going to be on iTunes or YouTube
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For signups and that day is coming very soon
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so just go subscribe we'll send you an email when it's when it's available and
We'll go from there, but I'm excited about it too, bro because
Real talk is so the fact that we've started making the CTI's like more fun
And like more, you know, I guess you would say like comedy based as opposed to just all serious all the time
I'm having a lot more fun doing that. But real talk, dude, like, I love the education aspect
of personal development and entrepreneurship.
I fucking love it.
It's a part of my life.
I'm always trying to get better.
And I think I have a duty.
I feel called to help these young people,
especially young men
Make better decisions and put themselves in a position to be successful. So I'm excited about as well 100% man It's gonna be fucking great. Well guys
Andy that was three. All right guys
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