REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 877. Andy, Billy Gene & DJ CTI: Billy's 75HARD Journey, OpenAi & Kash Patel Annihilates Senator After Being Accused Of Weaponizing FBI

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

On today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined by Billy Gene in the studio. They discuss Billy's 75 HARD journey, OpenAi's CEO Sam Altman and other US tech leaders testifying to Congress on Ai competition with China, and Kash Patel completely annihilating Senator Patty Murray after she foolishly accuses him of weaponizing and politicizing the FBI.

What is up guys it's Andy Purcell and this is the show for the realest say goodbye to the lies the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys today We have a very special Andy and DJ cruise the internet cruise the dang internet darn internet What is up, bro? How's it going good? Yeah good now Before we get into it. I'd like to remind you guys that we do have a fee for the show send me all your money That's the fee If you don't want to send me all your money, the fee is very simple. You could just share the show. All right, so

If it makes you think it makes you laugh gives you new perspective which this shows for sure going to do do us a favor Don't be a hoe sure the show. All right, all right. You said it a special show is special cuz you're here. Oh, yes hearts yes It is very special so Those of you who have listened to the MSCEO project will recognize one of my very good friends Who has for the first time in six years blessed me with his presence here in st. Louis? Appreciate you having me mr.. Billy Jean. what's happening, bro? The AI motherfucker. That's right.

I'm fucking out. I'm fucking out number now. Shit. Everybody check for Waltz. Hey, listen, bro, here's how it's gonna work, though. It's gonna be me and you versus him. All right, let's go. That motherfucker's the racist over there.

Let's get it. Let's get it. So what's happening, bro? Man, it feels good to be here. Like, you know, it's good to be here. Yeah. Like, you know, it's been six years and I'm honestly, actually I wanna capture this moment on camera because it's happening right now in real time.

I wanna give proper flowers to you, you know, because six years when I came, we were having a beer at Billy Jean's, ironically. A few beers. Yeah, a few, a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and we were celebrating my birthday or something. And we were just vibing and just had a bunch in common. having a beer at Billy Jean's ironically. A few beers. A few, a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We celebrated my birthday or something.

It was just vibing and just had a bunch in common. Like, oh, all boys private school? Like, oh, me too, they're not football. Like all of this. And then we were talking about vision. And at the time, if you remember, it's like you had vision, but you were in a good place.

It was, you were were happy like things were good but coming out here and then seeing that you guys like it's I'm inspired like if you haven't seen the office, it's it's inspiring and what I like the most is Look, i'm gonna be really i'm kind of in a weird spot where like I've been in this digital marketing game for like 10 15 years met every entrepreneur I ever wanted to meet and that whole quote about never meet your heroes or your whatever is fucking true Yeah, man, most people are are full of shit. They're fake. They want something like I want to start off on a bad note

But no no, bro. That's why you and I have both moved out of that It's just so like so it's so cool to come here and then see the culture and say everything that you actually talk about and stand for is here and the first hour I was here I didn't even talk to you yet so it wasn't like it was set up to put no I came in everything pristine you go into this motherfucking gym like it is a real thing all the numbers are aligned etc like everybody's doing their thing it's cool because big things are happening, but it doesn't feel like stuffy and corporate. Like, it's just, it's all the things I saw.

I think it was like, shit, years ago at like, I don't know, some event you were speaking on stage and you talked about culture. And like, you were going on about, like, people want to know how I'm growing and scaling. You're like, it's all about culture. And then to experience it is there. And then other note, like, I come I come in like there's a slideshow

Of me on the thing. The staff is really nice. Everybody's very kind DJ is like what's up? We already felt like family like we were relating shells like this. This feels good. Like it was just taken back I have a motherfuckers. I got a locker a Locker and it was it was the attention to detail It was a picture of my girl my mother my daughter It was happy my birthday was just just happened. It was happy belated birthday And it was the birth it was like I was like to the point where I just started to get mad I got mad cuz I had to check myself. I was like

I'm gonna have to go work. I'm gonna have to step my shit up right and I don't know bad But I love that feeling I like the feeling like people people talk about emotions and there's certain emotions that they just classify as bad or shitty one of those Is jealousy I like to get jealous. Yeah, I like in here being like, oh, so you think you want some Mandy Okay, you think okay in a good in a healthy. Yeah for sure, bro. Yeah noted like now That's what drives people Yeah noted like now other that's what I think that's what drives people And that was with 75 heart like people like yo you doing a 75 heart again like do you want to get healthy? I'm just like I'm gonna be real. I just want to be better than you Yeah, like yeah, because people don't want to be honest dude like no I just miss like I've always worked out my whole life

I fell off. I just miss coming in and just being like what's up? You know what's funny? Yeah, bro I do. And people don't fucking understand that. Like, the people I'm friends with, I can simultaneously be really good friends with them and still want to be better than them. 100%. And that's the motherfuckers I want to be around.

Because dude, if you have a winning attitude, the attitude that you really believe in yourself and you know that you're a competitor. You want your friends to get better so that you get better. You know what I'm saying? So like, I don't want to hang around motherfuckers that aren't competitive. I want to be around people who, you know, I want to be around people doing better than me because I'm like, fuck, all right, I got one way or the other or this or that.

It's not always like, you know, size your business. It could be more fit. It could be better at relationships. Yeah, exactly. It's 360. Yeah, bro. So it's like, it's just a different way of thinking. And I think most people don't, they, you know, we hear this quote all the time on the internet, which I fucking hate. What's wrong? Comparison is the thief of joy. No, bro. Comparison is the source of all progress. That's the truth. That's a bar Yeah, bro, and people don't fucking get it because they're uncomfortable with I want to touch on we said about that 360 though It's because especially like when people will see yourself see myself They'll go yeah size of business money and that's that's this part of that's right

That's that's this part of it. And so like, you know, I got friends So I just I'm like man, I'm a fuck is a good ass dad But you know and I guess I don't have my daughter but I'm like man that motherfuckers a good ass dad but you know and I have pride of how I have with my daughter but I'm like oh you did what we're okay noted like you know or like to the park right now my boy my fucking boy Daniel if you follow Rob Deirdec online yeah you know so you know like shout out to Rob like but Rob's a fucking genius bro oh he's a he's a real genius sure so When he posed the way that he'll like spoil his wife or you know for like a balloon all that

I'm like damn. I gotta shut my girls this is where I'm down like you can't go to Instagram today because I can't You know I gotta do more so I love it. It's winning in 360 Oh, it's funny that you said that because I've always admired that about Rob too Like Rob goes over the top big to his family. Yep Easter birthdays everything It's just top-notch and it's suit. It's it's so on brand for him because his energy is so good. Yeah, like I've I've been around Rob for a while and like It's real shit. Like what you see on TV. He's really like that in person, but even better Yeah, and like that and I you know speaking I don't think people give him the credit for how fucking smart he is in business dudes a fucking genius

We said we sat together this day. This is years ago I don't know Maybe five years ago with my buddy Chris harder and we sat next to each other for like an hour and a half and I forgot We were talking about I just left there being like It you know you watch Robin Big or like whatever, and it was just like, it's kind of silly, right? It's immature in the same way that I am or you are. We're fucking idiots.

You catch us at the right time, these are the dumbest guys ever. But then you have a real conversation, and you're like, oh shit, that's the first thing I thought. I said, that's one of the smartest entrepreneurs I've talked to in a very long time. And then I came here, and what'd I tell you? I was like, look, I think I said,'am because I have to commend you because this is hard

Yeah to to build this size of organization and to have all the things going right like that's my whole life is going into businesses I've seen every company you think of fortune 500 small the difficulty level is insane. Yeah, yeah, they're y'all they're doing it It's impressive. Well, I appreciate all that, bro. And I echo all those sentiments to you, bro, because you've come a fucking long way since we first met. Appreciate you. We've been friends for probably close to a decade now. How did you guys meet? Dude, I think just through the entrepreneur space,

we were both speaking and doing stuff. And in the small world, like you know everybody, you go somewhere and you see the same people. I'm very thankful for that that time in my life But I'm also thankful to not really be in that anymore because of what you said And I noticed you you know you pulled away too and just kind of you know it's just dude There's just too much bullshit. You know what it's like even my assistant now like I say no to every podcast every speaking You know why because I don't want to one I like staying at home in San Diego, playing tennis.

Me too. With my group. Yeah. Right. Like, but two is so many scams. Yeah. Oh man. Like, I like, and not just in the speaker world, but just business period.

Like I remember like the BBB, the very first time I was exposed to them was I got a letter and it was like, somebody said a bad review about you. And I was like, what is this? And it was like somebody said a bad review about you and I was like What is this? It was like someone bought something like 30 bucks I was like told my teams just go over fund it like make it right and I'll never forget this they sent a letter back and we responded to their their claim or whatever and they're like oh in Order to respond to this you have to pay $60 a year. Yeah, so I said hold it hold it What you're telling me is people can go in

Your hesitation say anything and oh you're telling me is people can go in Say anything and oh you only let me reply if I pay you, you know my thing on canceling People ask me this all the time. They're like, how do you deal with all these fuckers coming after you? It's very simple If I I don't fucking care if it's not real if it's real and I fucked up. I'll say i'm sorry But if it's not fuck them fuck them. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah, but yeah, man It's just it's also fake life like it's like it's like social media. It's it's fake It's literally like bro. You turn it off your life will change none Yeah, like it ever talk you ever heard about the dead and internet theory no, so there's a theory I

Actually think there's a lot of truth to it that half the internet or more is just bots Yeah, actually well there are a lot of us. Yeah, there's a lot of truth to it. That half the internet or more is just bots. Yeah. Actually, well, there are a lot of bots. There's a lot of truth to that, yeah. Yeah, and so when they, like all the propaganda that they pushed on Twitter and shit when Dorsey owned, or what's his face? Jack Dorsey. Jack Dorsey owned it.

Yeah. Was pushed out by bots. So they're curbing public perception because of the bots. It's dude, it's just, we live in this fucking, it really is a matrix. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's creating something.

So dude, you lost how much fucking weight recently? It was like, I think the total on 75 hard, I think it was like 47 pounds. Yeah, you crushed it. It was fine, I gained seven back fucking around the last week and a half. But I texted Andy to let you guys know, I said, you do a lot of dope shit,

I said, I think this is the most important thing you've ever done in your life. And I say that because, and you guys are preaching to the choir, right, where everybody hears from the Over 75 Hard preaching to the choir, right? Where everybody hears from over 75 hard and understands the impacts. But to me, I don't believe you can get anything in life without obsession and unbalance.

Totally agree. And you're right. And I say, because there's so many people who preach this balance thing. And I just have come to the conclusion that balance is, right, if I'm balancing, I'm trying to stay where I'm at, that's what balance is used for. If I climb to a mountain, right, you know,

you're staying where you're at, there. That's not to progress. I think 75 Heart is the truth of the true cost of what it takes to get what you want. And so many people don't want wanna do it, even me. Like I was like, oh God. Like for me, like, cause I've done 75 hard and had killer results with it the first time too.

When I was thinking about doing it, I was doing it with my girl, I was like, man, I'll be real with you. I don't wanna do it. You know why? Cause I'd be at honest conversation with myself of, I don't feel like paying the price right now. Yeah.

I don't feel like playing the price. That's the conversation people aren't having. Like, listen, I don't wanna pay. No, I don't I don't feel like playing the price. Yeah, that's the conversation people aren't having like listen I don't want to pay. Yeah. No, I don't want to wake up. Yeah twice Yeah, I was mad as fuck and then I went to do it and my girl's like make sure you space out the workouts three hours It's been so long. I was like, dude, is that a real thing? So I texted Andy and I was like, yo, is that real I have to space out like three hours and he's yeah I then I got more men. Oh, you know, you said you said it helped me settle a bet and I'm like Then you're like fucker

Yeah, and so then it was like fuck now this thing got really inconvenient, you know because it's like especially like playing sports forever it was like I Just didn't want to go in the mood and it's because of momentum But also I believe in who gives a fuck what I feel like Like what we didn't get where you are by doing all the shit you feel like who cares like so, you know Then you know week goes by and now I'm in the groove Yeah, can I not you know, like you just realize you know, the the little bitch as you say like is active in all of us Yeah, that's the thing. There's not a single person here who's too strong or beyond that.

And I promise you, if it's not in the fitness space, there's some other aspect of your life where you're being a little bitch. You're in an argument with somebody, but you won't put your ego aside and be the first person to call. You're being a little bitch. Like, you know, there's something,

and that's what a lot of people see, that they have it all. The one part that I've learned, and this is like behind the scenes when you start being cool with everybody everybody and I'm guilty of this too Is this like all right money's right? Okay, cool. I'm feeling myself. I've been working out a little bit check But the one that's easy to hide relationships whether that be your parents your significant other your children That's the easiest one

Especially when you guys see someone who typically classifies an alpha male check on them because be like yo what's good with you what's good with you I still have another though like that's that's how it is and one one of the greatest lessons I ever learned in business and it's like look you can have it all for like a moment but I was at this mastermind thing years ago and they just sat around it's like six dudes and just start going to go so which one's off I said what which one's off you I said, what? Which one's off? You know, is it health, money, or relationship? Because one's always fucked.

I was like, that's ridiculous. And I was like, it's kind of real. It's kind of real. When you lean in, it's like spinning plates, bro. You're like, it's like 100%. It's just the juggle. And then you shift back over, and then the other thing goes away, and you realize, oh, that's the game.

That's just the game. Keep the plates spinning, dude. Yeah, keep the plate spinning. Over here. Over here. Over here. And that's all of us. So yeah, it was humbling to get back after it again. It was disappointing to myself to realize,

I'm like, I got really out of shape. I was like, I remember I walked up my hill with the hill and I was like, yo, I should not be that tired. Yeah. And I'm used to like, you know, cause in your brain, I go, I revert back to like the last version of me when I'm like, like, like football, like, or like years after I'm in my zone. So I'm trying to do that.

I'm like, yo, I'm kind of slow right now. Like, this is, this is crazy. And so it's part of your identity, bro. You see yourself as all these things. You don't realize that you know comfort has started to like Erode the truth of what you actually are versus what you think you are. You know what I'm saying? It's Comfort is is very seduces bro, and it's like very it's very good at it It's very gradual and you know, it starts with you know one to sit you know okay today I'll you know not work out today, and I'll do it twice tomorrow or shit like that right and then before you know it

Dude, you're looking around and you're like wait. This isn't what the fuck. I am I don't look anything like what I want to know who I am no and then it slaps you in the face And you realize worst part yeah, but my old my old me was like always rationalizing how easy it is to get it back Yeah, so I just keep putting it off. Yeah, and then I had to look at a point like Billy What are you doing your fat as fuck right now? And I like I yelled at my friends. I was like yo I'm why did you guys because you guys should have called me and said you're fat as fuck right now. Yeah, and And those words. Yeah, no, I know. Hey bud. Yeah

Yeah, and and those words. Yeah, no, I know. Hey bud. Yeah No, yeah, yeah, what fuck you doing your fat as fuck right now Fuck yeah doing yeah talking about your fat as fuck right now. Yeah, like give me that, you know, that's what I need That's real friendship. Like that's real friendship Yeah, like and so even like even like between 75 hard and I was teaching class my students like yo every week I saw you you were dropping. He's like this week. You did it, and I was like. Thank you. Yeah, appreciate you Yeah, I was like okay. Well you remember. I appreciate you. Yeah, remember when I was fat as fuck Yeah, like dude. I was pissed at everybody too. What the fuck guys I will certainly call you fat

I will certainly call you fat Fuck man, but yeah, dude, you know It's cool to have you here man, and it's really cool to see you Kick an ass and do it. What do you so you're you're getting heavy into the AI shit now I mean, that's that's pretty much all you're doing right? Obsessed yeah, so like I'm like very Right? Obsessed. Yeah. So like, I'm like very I'm a gamer. Right. So like and I always have been like my whole life.

And so and I'm also a video guy. Right. I make videos around it. You guys probably seen my ads before, et cetera. Like I'm obsessed. I get like psycho about things. So when December 20, 2022, when Chad GBT will call it democratized, meaning A.I. has been around for decades, but when all of us got, you know, access to it I'll never forget. I was sitting with my boy. Shout out to Mike. RC. You know Mike RC. Yeah, and he's like we went to basketball game

He's like, hey man, like what do you think about the chat GBT thing? and I'm so used to marketing things coming and Going because I'm always pitched with them, right and I'm like another thing So I have my first reaction was and then he's like was, and then he's like, just trust me. And he's like, watch me write a rap song for you. And this is like, now everyone's used to chat, you'd be doing that, but this was like right in the beginning. And I was like, okay, do it.

And it didn't like two seconds. That day, I probably didn't sleep for three months. I think I spent 50 to 75 grand hiring AI consultants, everything you can think of. I put on an event. The first thing I did I was put event I told my people I said this is going to be the biggest thing since The internet Facebook social media everything AI is there people were like you're just fear-mongering You're you're just right away, and I was like yeah, this is it. I said I'm paying these experts

I'm gonna go live with them on zoom you can join in I said I'm coming in learning just like y'all you can come in And I did like the biggest online AI event at the time Which was I think we had like three or four thousand people but nobody was you know do yeah And so to the point where we were riding that momentum. I'm learning a bunch. I'm putting out content Here's what I'm learning etc. And then I knew I was on to something because then Procter & Gamble reached out Hey, can you come teach our offices in this country? That is it is it and I like now I'm doing these calls and I'm so I'm seeing how it works at the big companies Okay, how do we implement this and I'm just going down this rabbit hole and yo

I'll sum it up like this Doing actually I'll bring this even deeper then we can kind of talk about it. People like you, people like me, people like you, I think we're in for a rude awakening. And here's what I mean. Your brand, your show is all about doing the hard work. Me too. I'm like, fuck it, like do it, I get it.

I think we're coming to the first time where hard work isn't going to be celebrated, so people don't need a hard man anymore. Here's what I mean, my daughter's nine. Think about how she's growing up. She presses a button, food shows up. She presses a button, clothes show up. She's in school, everything is done on the computer,

like book reports, their spark notes. You know, remember when we first got the TI-83 calculator? Did all the fancy stuff. You can smell it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Boobies. Before that, y'all had like the beans on the bowl.

The sliding act. For me? Yeah. Yeah. So like, now my daughter's growing up with all of that, and I just said to myself the other day because she's running the mile this week. So I was running with her and she was just like,

I was like, sweetheart, she was just being a baby. And I was like, I love you, we're gonna practice this together. And then it just hit me, I just said, you know what's the truth? She may never need to work hard. And I believe AI is so powerful that in the next decade, it's so much smarter and it does things

so much better than us, it would be weird that a human does it. She's never gonna have to work hard. Which is fucking crazy and it hurts my soul. It hurts my soul. But I mean that. Think about you guys, everybody watching, since you've been using Chad GPT, be real.

Shit got easier, right? You're like, you need to write an email, you're like, let me put this in Chad GPT. And that's just- I think it depends on how you look at it. I think I think I think so where I came first of all like I was a hundred percent against it because I think there's an ethical responsibility to provide income for people yes, and So I was like fuck I didn't even look at the thing.

I was like, I'm not fucking looking at this shit. Fuck that. I've seen iRobot, fuck it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well. I know who this is. Right, and bro, for years I was trying to warn people. I was like, listen dude, you guys should reject this shit.

And then I figured out after, you know, it's coming no matter what, there's no stopping it. And so at first I was like fuck we're not gonna nobody's gonna have jobs that's what I thought at first and then I thought then I started like kind of looking into it and learning and I started realizing I'm like I see it as like a weapon okay like it's a tool like if you're yeah if you're like equipping yourself with the proper weapons You're gonna be able to move much better hundred percent

and so I think people who start to understand how to utilize it properly as an employee, yep and and Exponentially increase their output are gonna be extremely valuable Yes, and then there's gonna to be people who, you know, make videos of their cats and shit, right? And those people are going to get fired. Yep. And then I think from a company standpoint, you know, instead of looking at it like, oh,

we could fire everybody and run the company, the good companies are going to say, well, we could scale 10 times bigger with the same amount of people. Yes. Right? But in terms of like performance as a human The good companies are gonna say well we could scale ten times bigger with the same amount of people yes, right but in terms of like performance as a human and working hard I Think to even you know the nature of using it you have to be intelligent which requires studying Right you can't if you don't have like like somebody like you or me

We're at a tremendous advantage with it because of the real world experience that we have for sure like if you take someone who's straight off the street they don't even they can't understand the concepts of an ecosystem or how a project should flow or they get like and dude you could watch every video from every fucking online nerd and they can talk about it but unless you've actually done it or built it you really don't get it. It sounds confused No, but that's I think that is so I'm hundred percent the same thing What I think though do I think there's another element to this like I think Okay, so what's going to happen is?

We're going to have a situation where a lot of people don't have the same Obligations in terms of work that they have to do which means they're gonna have free time Yeah, and I think it also When we think about it the more Technology driven society is the more lonely people are yes, so more time more loneliness equals a desire for some sort of other mission plus community. So

what I think where the companies and the people are gonna go, I really think it's going to if because dude it's gonna take people businesses figuring this out but when when you provide a community that improves, you know fitness or work ethic Because you have to be smart to fucking do this shit. I think you're still gonna have to work hard But I think it's in a different way than what we're doing I think what you said is is huge is the work smarter not harder is the realest thing? Yeah, right like in like bro, you're still gonna want to be a fat fuck that takes hard work You know, you're still gonna want to be a well-rounded human being that takes work

You're still gonna need to consume like I think also like companies that produce where it's really gonna fuck people is straight-up info people like like if you could if you make a CPG product or anything that people consume food any of that shit You're gonna always have business alcohol weed You're gonna be able to make money, but and probably more money because we're gonna have more time. But um You know, it's just gonna be it's just gonna be different day happens question to you what happens when It takes one person to do the job that's currently being done by ten people Well, that means nine people can have a fucking job and that is what problem with that is ideally

It sounds good until you you know go macro Ecom and you realize oh shit. That's most people in the country. That's most of your customers Yeah, the most your right so most people in the country the economic system They're gonna have to and that's going to have to. And that's where I go, well, and that's, bro, that's where we get into like, we have to be very careful about avoiding communism because that's a, that's a very open gateway. Can we? Yeah, I think we can. You know, like is, is capitalism going to die? I don't know. It's a good discussion like fuck. I don't think I think it will change I don't think it'll be that's fair, you know, like there's still very wealthy individuals in China

Yeah, right some of the wealthiest people are in China I think what it's going to do more so and this is not a good thing and this is But if you're willing to work hard, yeah, it's gonna be good for you But it's going to read For okay for people who are ambitious and have goals and have drives and have dreams and they want to fucking do things It's going to be easier than ever for them to win facts because they're going to have the weapons to win They're going to have more opportunity because more people are not going to try Yeah

so there's less competition because dude if you you take, because when we look at like the way our economic system is set up, it's set up on leverage of debt onto the individual. Go to school, get a degree, get in debt, now you have to fucking work, okay? So, yeah, and people don't really think of it like that. They just think of it as the way it is. But if you remove that leverage off of people,

what will they do? We don't know yet. Unfortunately, that's where I think we do know because historically, humans choose lazy. Yeah, but bro, like those people eventually, like look man, it's what they want. It's what the fuck they want. That's why they let it out in the open.

I have a question. What do you think about this? So from a management standpoint, what I have learned from seeing different companies and even experiencing it in mine, it's like I don't think most people actually desire what you or I may desire. I think most people desire to just chill.

Why is that? It's a good question. I don't know. That's it. Well, I think, I think it's because they've, they've given up on the idea that it's even possible. They don't even know it's possible. I think most people are bred culturally into believing that success is for other people, not for them. I agree. And that it's some sort of mystical thing

that happens to some people and doesn't happen to other people, which I thought that too, dude, until I figured out that it was just math. It's just doing shit. One plus one equals fucking two. On top of that though, when you demean success and you make it be this bad, scary thing, so not only are you not seeing it but now it's a moral high

ground and I have it yeah if you got money you're greedy yeah you know I'm says you add that on top of it is terrible I think the AI thing I don't think if we leave it up to the people to try to regulate the shit and it would never happen because the consumer has changed completely well they are gonna make here's what I think. Government has to regulate this shit. Yeah, and I think they're going to, and here's why I think that.

They started. Because it's going to put lawyers out of business, all right, and lawyers are the government, and they fucking look out for their own. And so once these motherfuckers up in Washington figure out what's going to happen to their trade, it's going to be, I think they're gonna try to lock it the fuck down, but dude, I don't think they can.

It's like Napster, right? When they shut down Napster for a little bit, and then it was like Spotify. Yeah, right, all this shit. It's so far gone, I don't even know. But dude, I think it's just going to expose who has ambition and who doesn't. And I think for the message that you and I, you know, cause we're both, we've both been

very big in the personal development space for a long time. I think people will always have ambition. I think there's certain people who will always desire to win. I think most people do. Most of the people that I'm around want to win, but don't know how to win or don't believe they can I think you have that but I think there's also this majority of people I don't know majority a lot of people who don't view it like that one they don't know yeah they don't view like that they go yo I've been struggling for so much

of my life and this is their story who cares about the reality of this is what they're thinking. You know, my parents weren't together. I've been paycheck to paycheck. Everybody I knew was paycheck to paycheck. And now the government has offered me a check where I don't have to worry about rent. I don't have to do any of that. And I can just live and get a stipend. It's hard to imagine.

We already have that. Denying it, right? Yeah, it's welfare. Yeah. You take it. Yeah. You know, but now it's gonna be The first time where right or left it's like a joint conversation because it's coming for everybody's job Yeah, right. And so I really do worry about like Is it a we can't beat him join them kind of attitude for the masses, right? Like and I don't like that idea. It's it's it's anti

attitude for the masses, right? Like, and I don't like that idea. It's, it's, it's anti, um, normal to me and what I've seen and what I've seen lead to success, but it's just like, fuck, I don't know. Well, I also think, dude, like, you know, you don't have to work. No, I don't have to work. Okay. And what would your life be? If you didn't, you would lack purpose. You would lack fulfillment fulfillment you would be depressed

See we get that yeah being here, but bro anybody listen gonna be like no yeah, right? Yeah, but you know the fucker they get it too They just don't understand that they have it like dude go to Walmart go to fucking shopping centers and watch people They're fucking miserable bro. They have no purpose. They are very cynical about their existence true. They are Generally very negative. Hey, how's it going? Oh fucking living the dream, you know like all the sarcasm Yeah, bro It's just it's and it comes from no purpose like there's no purpose in a lot of these jobs anyway, like they show up they and

Type some shit out and then they go home. I'm gonna tell you something I'm gonna hate. Because this is a dark side of where I think the world, this is what I'm betting on and I don't like it. Hopefully we can change it but I wanna discuss it. So let's go to this position which I am pretty sure cause I don't know how it cannot happen where either the costs for things are subsidized by the government cause I don't know how anyone can afford anything,

or you're getting checks, okay? Now that happens. Now what you said is a real thing. People do need to feel purpose, et cetera. Now we're also in the era where gaming is bigger than everything. Grand Theft Auto trailer for the new one just came out. It's the biggest thing in media.

Oh, it's the biggest thing in media ever, in history, entertainment ever. We're gonna start our own server, bro. Fuck yeah. Yeah. It's the thing. So people really get a kick out of living through their avatars So what I fear is people go, you know what? It's just a feeling that I'm chasing anyway So if I have rent covered etc, and now I can feel purpose inside of my fake world

There it is because watch how easy it is to clone and live a fake person so so I worry If this is going to be blinded like well, that's where we get into where this is a stop and start Like cuz like right now dude, well dude, and that's why like right now we have this situate like where's the legality? What what I mean? Do you not well? Do you not own your own IP, right? That's what goes to what you said where the attorney that goes all in on AI and says I'm gonna be this practice They're gonna be rich as fuck. Yeah, they're gonna kill it. They're gonna be the hard worker Yeah, and then the other ones are gonna be like I went to six years I'm three hundred thousand dollars in debt like I've been doing all of this. Just give me the stipend. Yeah

Well, dude, that's that's assuming that the stipend is livable, right? Yeah, so You know like if it's welfare level you're not gonna remove the ambition. No, no, no, cuz like that's to share Yeah, dude, I think I think I think it's gonna come down to the basic human. I Always like break it down in natural order. Mm-hmm winners gonna win loser fucking lose and that and that's what it's gonna come down to. And I think it's going to be very, I think a lot of people are really fucked. I think a lot of people selling low value information are fucked. Like you're not gonna be able to go on the internet anymore as some like average dude and be like, oh, I have this coaching program, and it's this those views are done for sure I Think it's I think that's a good thing though because I think

The like we said there's so much bullshit. You said the most powerful thing earlier, which is the c-word community Yeah, like that the community and loneliness. I really do think you're going to be the biggest challenge Well, yeah, you're gonna have two kinds of people You're gonna have people that want to live in their avatar who want to sit on their couch and be a fat fuck and jerk Their own dick and then you're gonna have motherfuckers that want to go out and fucking be the real deal and get laid Yeah, that's right. Someone's gonna do it for you. Yeah, and it's gonna be too distinct Don't we already have that though? Don't we already have that? Don't the fucking, those people do that anyway? Yeah, that's true. And don't the other people do?

It's not gonna change, yeah, that's a good point. I mean, dude, the reality is, if you're a human right now and you're not learning how to use AI and what you do. Yep, and what you do. I had this discussion with a friend of mine a week ago and When he first when I first brought it up to him He was like that's not true and I said no it is fucking true And he ended up texting me like at like 1130 that same night. Oh, he was up on that

He went down. Yeah, and he's like bro. You're right, and I'm like yes. I know I'm right, dude And this is I would say just anyone listening. It's like if you're like, I don't think so. It's only because you haven't used it Yeah, like it with a second you use it and you dive in even for a day like Changes the value proposition for an employee as well and how people bill Okay, like for so long this idea of billing for hours has existed. That's not going to exist any no Thank God. It's no shit. Thank all these mothers's that's all these motherfuckers that have been hiding behind You know Design and coding and all these things to say oh it takes this much time, so I gotta yeah total that's done

Yep, what's well how these people are gonna be valued now is how fast and what quality they can produce the product? So it's going to flip the value proposition from time to outcome Which I enjoy within it frees up time. Yes, cuz now now we can fucking move like I would much rather I would much rather pay somebody more for outcome. Yes fast. Yes, then get drug along in this painful Fucking time thing. We we restructured my whole marketing department. Like the way that we do it. So this is, for me, it's VA's and AI. And so I told our team, I said,

hey guys, no one here can do anymore, you must manage. Meaning everyone's kind of a super employee. So you take someone who's been like an account manager, running advertisements, all these kinds of things. It's like, no, you have a team of VA's on your team and They use AI tools. Yes, and now all of a sudden you one person are doing the work of 20 You have a whole like that. Yeah, and and you're doing it with your voice Do even do this do that do this

It's a nice and not only that then after you do that three or four times The fucking thing knows what you're gonna say and it just does it so then it shows Up and your shit's done and you can create an agent to automate all those tasks It's like you don't do so much even right now. We think about this go ahead the fucking like here's what something I've been thinking about is like So you got grok you got chat you got fucking all these other ones, right? Yeah And then you have what was the one in China? It was DeepSeek. So DeepSeek comes out and fucking builds their own AI engine

for fucking six million bucks, right? And they put what, they cost the market a trillion dollars in fucking two days. Instantly. Yeah, but so here's the, but the reason why is because no one fucking understood how cheap you could actually do it Which six million bucks sounds expensive to most people but it ain't right half a billion So here here's the fucking thing right now. I think there's a race right now to build those engines

Yeah, because I think the regular because right now how they're building it is Zuckerberg saying hey, and Elon's saying hey fucking scrape the entire internet. All of it. Like, and dude, what's going to happen is that is not going to be allowed forever to scrape the entire internet. They're going to start putting guide rails and things in it. So when that starts to happen, the ability to generate those engines is going to go away. So whoever could fucking be, whoever's able to right now should.

Well that's why I think the big dogs are just gonna get bigger at this point. I think we're there because it's like, becoming a new is really tough. It depends on how they think about it. So when you look at like, how old are you now? 37. Okay.

So when you think about like, cause I was like 18 to 25 when the internet really started time about dial-up instant messenger. Yes, 56k. Yeah, bro What was your screen name? I touched it 37. Oh That was my that was that was my fucking that was my ghost account Tell people that each sex location. Oh, it was free-R-I-Z-4-4 at AOL. Yeah. And fucking, Sal's was Y Eater 5. Ha ha ha!

My dad was like, what the fuck is Y Eater? And like, worked me and Sal like. So like, dude, so fucking, but like, dude, I think of like what I've seen, right? And I think people with experience are going, like a lot of people think, oh, that guy's fucking old. No, motherfucker, like if you take someone who's had the experience of building something pre-internet,

which I did, in the internet, which I did, like I'm gonna be a fucking weapon, bro, because I know what the fucking ass the motherfucker. Yeah, and It's I mean I get it already But think about this over the big the big dogs. Okay, so Who's the big dogs? Elon Bezos? Yeah, right? Zuckerberg Zuck Zucks a little bit different because of how that came about for him but if you take if you take Be, all Bezos did was take a concept

that he was familiar with, commerce, of books, and evolve it to the internet, and then evolve it from there, all right? And he was the first guy. So he was the first, he was first at market at that time. He stuck with it. And he did it early enough before it was regulated Which is what I'm talking about them regulating the wild west. Yes, so that's what we're in with AI. Wow. Wow West

I agree. So so for the first 10 12 years of Bezos running Amazon, they didn't have to collect sales tax So what it did was it created a fucking tent. Is it huh? I didn't think I realized that yeah Well, dude, I was I was in business then. So I was like, what the fuck? Like these guys can sell shit 10% cheaper than I can and I'm employing fucking people, right? So like I was the victim of that loophole. So I remember very clearly. Getting mad at it.

Because their first strategy was to sell cheap. It wasn't convenience, it was cheap, okay? And then once the tax got put on them, then they went to convenience So now it's it's quick. So So there was a fucking time there where he was able to jump way ahead because there was a 10% to 12% Margin advantage over not having to pay sales tax 12 years So going going with that at the biggest advantage that everybody has right now is he had real tax is the fucking classic Ignorance tax right now the biggest advantage or the denial tax and the denial tax right now is the guys

If you just simply use AI you'll beat your competitors because they're not using it Dude, it's like having a website before it's a website how you use it and how you use it Yeah, like like if you're an employee right now, and I'm just, dude, I am saying this, I'm saying this to protect you. I'm not saying this as a threat. If you are an employee of any company right now, because like we could talk about the morality, like I believe in employing human beings,

and how I'm choosing to look at it is, okay, I can make my humans that much more productive. Okay. And then we, you could scale the company without as many humans. Okay. But you take the same amount, like a lot, companies look at it a bunch of different ways. A lot of guys are looking at it and saying, fuck, I can get rid of everybody. But the winners are saying, no, I can fucking take the same amount of people. While going on a hiring freeze. Yes. And I think that saying, no, I can fucking take the same amount of people and exit. Take my 500, yeah, right. While going on a hiring freeze.

Yes. And I think that seems like what the winners will do is, but that is also my fear is what does that hiring freeze do? Cause I'm on it. We'll talk, I'll be with you guys. I think a couple roles in sales, even though these AI sales are pretty fucking good.

Okay, take a sales guy. Take a sales guy, right? A sales guy, if you, take a sales guy. Take a sales guy. A sales guy. If you could take a sales guy who is good and he can scale out his ability for output at fucking 30x with the tool, he's worth paying

a lot more. And if there's less people and more output, he can make a lot more. You want to hear something crazy? So I won't say tools. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, you know I'm gonna give you example of that because it goes both ways, right? So, you know, this is where I think was the biggest thing that sold me on AI And so we were using this tool and again, it's this this is this windows actually still here right now and it's the rules of AI calling, right?

Because there's telemarketing rules, there's robocallers, there's all these things. But there is this tool that lets you do outbound calls, and it was here very early, and I'll never forget, I was like, okay, this is awesome, this is good. We have permission to call all our people, and we have a big ass list of a million entrepreneurs. This is gonna be great.

So I was like, let me just start small. That's the benefit of being in an entrepreneur space. 100%. Yeah, I was like, so let me. Fuck our list. This is massive, right? I was like, this is great. So I was like, let me just take really qualified people

that we fuck with that opted in for stuff. And I was like, let's just call them with AI. And I just want to see if I can set some appointments. And so I was like, all right, let me just upload, you know, this list of, I think it was like 3000 people. So I uploaded it and it calls and I look at the stats and I refresh in Six minutes later. I called a thousand people at the same time and My brain broke because I went whole and I got all these appointments, right? Let's think about scale

Yeah, so imagine how long it would take one salesperson to call a thousand people yeah, but Imagine how much more effective the sale that sales force would be with someone running those out of fucking sell a hundred percent so Exactly so like this is what we have to think about it like yeah Because if you take some fucking part off the street that doesn't know how to sell shit you can't do that Yeah, if it's a bad script. Yeah, that's good. You can call it ten thousand people. Yeah, close I think and yes the a it was just bad script, it's a bad script. You can call 10,000 people, if you can't close, you can't close. And yes, the AI. It was just crazy how fast it did it. Because it was like, I literally saw a month of work

take three minutes. Bro, I think if you're a person right now and you're working inside of a company, here's how you need to look at it. You need to look at it like, I need to learn this shit so that I can multiply my own output Not how much time I put into it how much output I could create facts because that person Will be more valuable 100 percent

And and I really think it's the only way for most people That work in an office to maintain. Yeah the ability of value My marketing team right this is happening in real time right now. It used to of value. My marketing team, right? This is happening in real time right now. It used to take us and we're fast, right? Yeah. You just take like, we can build like an advertisement a day, like a good one, right? Yeah.

Right now, I think yesterday we did six without me, really good performing, et cetera. And that is the team multiplying their output, doing what they do. And so right now, I agree 100%. If you're in a company and you can latch on to this shit, you can do 100 times more than you ever had. And so I would just go to your employer and make sure that you have a commission based on, like if you don't, that's fine,

but see if you can add it in. And I think that's what a lot of people don't do, is like, you can just like a CEO can come to you and talk to you about pay, you can do the same. So if you find this output thing, I bet you if you can show your worth and what you can do They'd be willing to pay you more based off your performance a zillion percent So it's just like bring it to the because dude that that dynamic never changes Yeah

People that produce more are worth more hundred percent people that produce better are worth more and so there's an opportunity right now for employees to become that much more productive against the other ones and not only secure their position but earn more and and I think there's there's just a way of looking at it and I think dude you know like even as a company like let's take a macro scale right and there's a government aspect to this too because what what the government should do I don't think they will do this because they're too fucking stupid But what they should do is they should offer a complete tax Immunity to companies that employ a certain percentage of people versus how much AI they for sure they're gonna have yes

So the way that they're gonna secure or should can secure jobs is to give a tax break to the company employ actual humans but and Then tax the companies that don't yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's good So but but that's a macro thing that we're not in control of okay. That's what I think should happen What I would have really should have happened is people should have never let it out in the public because now a lot of people It's actually a fair reason. Yeah, I agree But it is what the fuck it is and so we got to look at it for what it is

This is called real AF not what the fuck it should be so what it is is It's natural order natural order is always going to win and so there's gonna be companies that say, okay I'm gonna utilize this To optimize and fit and we're gonna grow with it. There's gonna be companies that reject it say, okay, I'm gonna utilize this to optimize and we're gonna grow with it. There's gonna be companies that reject it. There's gonna be guys who say, no, this is stupid,

just like they did with the internet, or just like when the fucking car came out and the dudes were saying, no, what the fuck, I got horses, right? So this happened when the internet came out. I remember all kinds of business people that were like, oh, the internet's not for me Guess where they are. They're not existing. So

Yo, that's fun. That's what they said. Yeah for me. You remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah internet doesn't apply to my shit Well, the fuck it doesn't now you're gone. Yep. Okay, and It of course there's things that are immune right like there's Right now there's trades, right? There's HVAC, there's run and elect, but dude, there's- And it's a window, because we know the power of robotics. Three, four years, it's gonna be robotics. But if you could be the guy that figures out how to do it

and how to do it faster, you're gonna make a lot of fucking money. So we have the natural order on a macro scale and a micro scale. So we have it on the macro scale with businesses. We got it on the 10,000 foot scale with the government. And then we have micro scales individuals. And for businesses, what's going to happen

is the same thing that always happens. You're going to have people who adopt it and work with it and figure out how to produce the best possible outcome for their customers and their employees. You're going to have people who decide that it's not for them. And then you're going to have a little guy who's just getting started, who doesn't know shit about business, and his opportunity is going to come from the companies that say this isn't going to work.

100%. So you're going to have a trade. These companies are going to come from the companies that say, this isn't gonna work. So you're gonna have a trade. These companies are gonna fall, these young bucks who learn how to do it are gonna move in, and we're gonna have sort of an involvement, right? And adaptation over the long haul is the key to lifetime success.

Which actually scares me about what you said, specifically the government, and I want everybody to think about this. One, like, so this shit, like I teach a 16-week course right in every single 16 weeks I have to change the whole fucking curriculum because it's moving so fast Yeah, and I worry about the government because everybody knows how long the government takes to do anything I also worry about even your traditional colleges because how long does it take for them like how many you went to school and you? Bought a used book because the three years later. They were still you buy you do the same fucking education is done. Oh my god. It's so bad, but do they're teaching fucking AI engineer courses

They're teaching teaching at college Six all right look six. This is how fucking stupid this is They are teaching people for a six month course for thousands of dollars like going to debt shit on how to be an AI prompt engineer when all you got to do is ask the motherfucker what prompt it is. So, but they, and that was a fast response that is now outdated. Yes. These are the same people y'all, by the way, this was something you can relate to that

when you go to the DMV, they take six months to send you your registration. Bro. Something that should be done. It's so fucked. College, the next real estate opportunity is gonna be the college campuses, because they're gonna be fucking empty. That's actually good.

Turn them into lofts. Yep, that's right. Historic lofts. Yep, for real, bro. Yeah, but like dude. Oh, you say Harvard, bro, that's cool. It's exciting. That's Greenpool over there and Boston. It's exciting. That's the main pool over there in Boston.

It's exciting if you're willing to adapt. If you're not willing to adapt, you're going to lose and it's going to be a very hard fall. That's the truth. And you can't be our parents and our parents are this, you know, and shout out to all our parents, especially mine, but you guys have probably all gotten that call from your parents where they ask you to change the input on their TV

Yeah, and they just need to press a button, but they don't want to learn it They're just like just just do it for me I was that motherfucker fucking six months ago. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. What's it? No, I do know I just Listen, it wasn't that I got the foot put in my ass, it's that I met some very, I met some very interesting people, okay? I met my friend Devin, who is a very smart man. He's young, he's very smart, he's very calm,

he's been on the podcast, really good fucking dude, and just listening to him calmly sort of like. Walk you through it. Yeah, and and then and then Like I was like fuck and and he's he's doing I mean he's crushing yeah, yeah, and so I'm like alright well Then I then I downloaded the fucking app and you know I did what everybody does I'm like take this picture of my dog and make it a Lego

And I was like I was like holy fuck dude, and then I'm like take this picture of my dog and make it a Lego. You know And I was like I was like holy fuck dude, and then I started like having it teach because dude I am like I am a gluttonous learner like I Love input. Yeah, I love it pause and and it's so hard for me to Find the time to read. Okay, because, you know, and I still do, because I enjoy it, but it's hard. I have to force myself.

That's part of the program. So I test it out. I say, all right, books I've read multiple times. Like there's a book called The Purple Cow by Seth Godin. I've read it a thousand fucking times. So I know the book. I'm like, hey, summarize this book for me, okay? How good was it?

It's fucking right on, bro. And I'm like, so then I'm like, if you come to my house, I have thousands of books, okay? And there's, I buy books that I wanna read, but then I can't find the time to read them. So I start, dude, I started reading fucking three, four fucking books a night Okay, so I'm summarizing and getting the gist of these three or four books

Well every night which dude would take me a fucking and that now I'm like Fuck and I start then I start thinking of like, okay, so the meta shades This is where it's cool. They show this in their newest demo So the meta shades everybody's like you guys see I'm wearing glasses Just imagine I can press a button and it can record and then a I can see everything that I see right So, you know, then the one of the newer demos there's two really cool tools that we should play with and the newer the demos is Somebody looks by a bookshelf and then says hey remind me what book was over there in the purple and it like capture right there

Yeah going to what you said It's can you summarize that for me in a couple of bullets while you're walking and listening because it's eyes That is going to be the most when like the mass adoption happens gonna be because of these glasses Yeah, but also dude, I think I think people I don't like I don't think we're taught look man there's gonna be a balance that occurs between the human experience of technology always and for example, like when retail started getting hit with the internet, there was a bunch of retail people. This I'm talking 15 years ago. People would be like, Oh, fuck. Internet's killing me, bro. My retail company has continued to dominate because we create community and good experiences and

human behavior craves that. So you have to think about like, okay, well, how is it going to work in that environment? And in that environment, it would be a situation, you know, let's say any technical environment, like an auto parts store or a vitamin store, right? You're going to be able to answer questions about shit that you don't really know Because our biggest rub in what we do is the knowledge, right? You have to learn the technical knowledge Your employees are gonna have meta shades And not only that, they're gonna have fucking earpiece in their ear that hears what the fuck you're saying

Tells them what to tell So that's why I tell people this is gonna sound crazy, but like it Star-track, oh, it's yeah, so they have that and then also it's these glasses So especially like speaking languages No one's ever gonna need to learn another language again because when you have your glasses on it'll translate in real time Translate but it's in the matter shades like it's just like Piece it's gonna tell you what to say 100% sells like everything It's again. It's the goal is going to be to like it's gonna be weird So right now people value therapy right and going to see a therapist done

It's going to be weird when someone tells you they talk to a human They're gonna say why would you ask a human they get emotional they get tired if they're in a bad They have they have alternative motives like like only read 20 books versus not only that dude leveraging every book ever bro, bro, bro. Check this shit out. So So I asked it I said Cuz I want to know how it learns and I'm like, so how do you learn and they're like it's telling me it's like well Just like you learn except think of everything you've ever known and all of a sudden, you know it. Right. And, and so I'm like, okay, so, and this is what I'm getting at with the regulation, right?

There's only going to be a window to build these engines that exist temporarily. Yep. And the people that build them are going to, and there's a barrier because it's, it's millions of dollars. to build them are going to and there's a barrier because it's millions of dollars. But right now, like what they've done it meta and fucking like, bro, they just stole everybody's shit like straight up. That's not going to be allowed to happen forever. So we're going to have this situation. Like you said, we're big dogs and some little smart guys are

going to get real fucking big. Yeah. Yeah, and And when we look at like I asked this fucking thing I said, dude, I Said cuz like do how many speeches have you given on success fucking can count thousands. Yeah, right me, too Well, and it's something I'm very interested in like a human and dude I don't think that's ever gonna it's not gonna go away man Because it's it's just natural like there's gonna be people that want to rise the top and there's gonna be people that don't think that's ever gonna it's not gonna go away man because it's it's just natural like there's gonna be people that want to Rise to the top and there's gonna be people that don't give a fuck and the people that don't give a fuck are gonna go

All the way down and the people that want to go they're gonna go higher And the people with experience and knowledge and IQ or they're gonna go higher than that. Yes so I think it's just a reorganization of of the natural order In a different way. That's how I see it. And I think there's morality questions to ask. Such as like, what do we do with people that want jobs? Well, it's the same answer. Like people that want jobs are gonna have to learn

certain skills and they're gonna have to be good with them. Yeah. Right? And, but dude, how it learned was so fucking interesting They want jobs are gonna have to learn certain skills. They're gonna be good with them. Yeah, right and But when but dude how it learned was so fucking interesting to me because it was like it was like I Said the what it said to me was how many biographies have you read and I said, I don't know, you know Yeah, probably 30. Yeah, you know in my life. I don't read I write I read more technical how to not like And it's a, well, I've read them all. And I'm like, I'm like, what do you mean you've read them all? And then I read them all and I'm like,

all of them. And he's like, yes, all of them. And I said, so if I asked you, what was the five most common traits amongst successful people versus the five most common traits amongst people who lose You would be telling me based on that knowledge not guessing. Yeah, and and then it listed them out Hmm, and then it was right on and then yeah And then I said we'll rank them in order of importance and then it did that so like dude now you're dealing with You're not dealing with speculation. You're dealing with you're not dealing with speculation you're dealing with actual data of what? Qualities you have to have to be successful which by the way just so we're clear. It's all the shit. We teach

But it was cool because it's not it's not just your opinion if it's literal there's a there's a cool tool that will be helpful for everybody especially if you're super not techie and Jim and I just lost it so Jim and I is Google's AI. It's called, what the fuck is it called, Paul? Genius, or Jim and I Live Studio Stream. And what it does is essentially, imagine you're on a website and you have no idea how to use it, like Adobe Photoshop or some of these hard tools,

right, you never use. It will talk you through it in real time. So you can literally go to any website under the sun, and if you don't know how to use it, it can literally just talk through it, and it will walk you through and guide you. It's like having an assistant in your ear that can see what you see,

and anytime you're on a site, it will walk you through it. So anybody who's super afraid of tech and you wanna try some of these tools, literally just pull that up, go through it, and it will, it's like like I could tell you this dude I'm the most tech averse person Probably for the last 20 years and I've outsourced all of my I've depended on a lot of people bro Yeah, and I I just give you a like just as a real example

One of my I have a guy who's working on a project for me And one of my, I have a guy who's working on a project for me. And before I say this, it's not my guys working on the app that I have. It's another guy working on a different project. Because these guys are going to hear this and be like, what the fuck? But it's not you guys that are on my internal team. But I was outsourcing some coding and I had a guy who was slow. And I was on the phone with him and I was telling him like hey man I need this done now now and he's like oh, it's gonna take blah blah blah blah worse working with fucking okay developers

Yeah, because they leverage you yep, they leverage you on what you don't know yep, and you can't do anything about it well now You can now you can't have been able so So I fucking went into my app Now you can't. Now you can't. But you haven't been able to in four years, yeah. So I fucking went into my app and I said, all right, this is what I'm doing, this is what I need, and in fucking like 10 minutes,

I had the fucking code. So I took the code and I fucking sent it to the guy. And what'd he say? Fucking picks up the phone right away, calls me. And he's like, what the fuck, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you know what he said? I'll have it done by Friday. Yeah, of course, all of a sudden? You see? Oh, you can have it done now. Oh, yes, the thing that was impossible

Yeah, do now so it really it's I think there's a lot of good and a lot of gray area and a lot of bad just like there is with everything and I think people are smart enough to I think there's a large amount of people that are going to still want human they're gonna want a human interface and so you know you could run your AI on the back end but your human is gonna do the interfacing because we have natural human connection I think there's gonna be a lot of people like you said who want to live in that world yeah but those people are already living

in that world facts so I don't people are already living in that world facts So I don't know that it's gonna be as disruptive as we think it is I think there's a lot of uncertainty which creates a lot of fear But the more I learn about it and the more I think of it I think it's just gonna amplify what's already happening The ambitious are gonna become more ambitious the winners are gonna win bigger People that are small are gonna be able to win because the people who don't adopt the tech Are going to fall off. So it's just a reorganization of and and like always but even now exclamation point is

Community and your business model is bigger than ever. Oh, dude. Yeah, you have to it's bigger than ever Yes, I mean like it's that's the only way you can protect your tool too If you're gonna invest into a lot of money tool, etc What's going to see brand, everything community. Well, dude, and also like, like who it's really going to hurt, dude, is people that don't deal with some sort of actual product. Like I'm talking about a physical product. Like if you're manufacturing a product that people buy and you're doing well with it and you're halfway intelligent, it's all the demand gonna be there for sure if you are someone who? who is leveraging your quote-unquote expertise and

Education like like you know like lawyers like to say well I went to school for fucking next years to learn this shit doesn't matter yeah, it doesn't fucking matter No, Chad G's GP teachers wrote this motion for me doesn't and not only check it now So that idea like the thing these lawyers do where they fucking you know They they I got a client and then you got a client We know each other and we go play golf figure how to milk them for all their money. It's over yeah, like that shit is over and So is like holding code hostage. That's over. So is holding designs hostage. That's over. So it's

it's It's just gonna change it's it's it's just going to change. It's going to be based off of fucking output. And if you're someone right now who has a career or a job and you want to be secure in that, you need to you need to learn the tools to leverage your your skill set to be more productive. And that's it. And this is to give a tangible example of that. Right. So I made a joke earlier.

I was like, well, therapists, what are you going to need need them for but obviously you can create your own custom GPT? Teach it everything that you know and then you can just sell your people an app that they can continuously talk with you 24-7 When they're not available to actually meet with you in person Yeah And so now you've multiplied yourself and have a sexier offer because you offer 24-7 support when the other person is once a week and you can bundle that and it'll take you no time at all and the Other players aren't going to do it So there's so many little micro wins like this that people can implement to get a massive edge and you said it's just like

If you want it, it's there. It's never been easier ever. It's never been easier to start a business It's never been more affordable. All this shit is free like almost everything we're talking about. It costs nothing There's no excuse and it's fast It takes no time But you got to be willing to learn the learners are going to come up big as long as you implement what you learn. But like let's take a space that you and I are familiar with. Like the entrepreneur coaching, right? If you don't have a track record, it's over for you. It's fucking over. Like if you don't have results to show people for real. And I'm not talking about a nice car. I'm not talking about fucking, you know,

like I'm not talking about frontin' on the internet so that you could fucking. The bullshit. That's over. It's fucking over. That's good. I know, that's a great thing. So that shit's over.

And maybe not today, but within the next fucking year. Okay, and if we're being ultra conservative, two years. It's over. And if we're being ultra conservative, two years, it's over. But for people with real companies, tremendous opportunity, you know what I'm saying? Like tremendous. For people with ambition, tremendous opportunity. But the low hanging fruit, that shit's over.

You're going to have to be good. You're going to have to be good at what you do. So I think if you're good at what you do and there's no fucking scam shit You're gonna be fine. In fact, you're gonna make way more money But I agree with yeah, but if you're a fucking gray area Try to hustle and cheat that you're done. It's over like you just don't even fucking know it yet I just really hope that as this happens, because it is one of those things that the winners will win,

the losers will lose. But I think for America to keep going as is and growing, we need the losers to win too. Well, dude, dude. There used to be the foot. No, bro, listen, that's why, listen, that's why the depopulation agenda exists, because they are trying to fucking remove the world of the youth, what they deem the useless people. That's what they're trying to do. That's why they that's why they're run. I mean, fucking gates has said it, dude. Like these people talk openly about there's books about it like this they're trying to eliminate In any way I think they I think they've

They're gonna try to eliminate People that don't produce value and I mean by eliminate I mean kill I mean remove them from the world and that's a heavy statement They're doing it yeah, they say it opens the world and that's a heavy statement yeah yeah they say it opens the world economic forum I mean there were books about this shit so like it's it's gonna be I think a very weird time and then and then and then like whoever controls the fucking AI like it's gonna be Elon he controls the fucking AI, like it's gonna be Elon, he controls the fucking, and he's building the robots already, he already has the Optimus robots. Whoever controls that's gonna control the fucking world.

That's just real shit. And dude, if these things do, it's kinda hard to think that they won't become self-aware after using them. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it fucking pouts, bro. like if you yell at it it fucking pouts it's it's the problem is it's it's whatever you train it to be and someone's going to train it to be just I yell at the motherfucker bro like we have fucks up I fucking bring I bring up the microphone and I'm like what the fuck are you fucking then like and then

it'll say it'll like it'll say oh I'm. I was lazy. I said I said I won't hear that shit man. You're fucking robot I fucking told you what to do you're supposed to do it and It'll pout like a fucking like dude it has like I know it's programmed, but it has Emotions well, it's like it's it's bad people will do bad things and there will be people who train robot I mean the scariest part not to go on hold these and we're talking like future weapons like the scariest part is the way I think somebody decides to use AI literally right now and make a drone attack because they can go to Best Buy clear out all The drones etc right now and then program like this is a thing right now Yeah, and then how do you find out who did it? It's that's what I'm saying. It's really hard

It's happening too fast So from a from a defense and also to even the idea of like, you know when we grow up, you know You have be with somebody you maybe fight them right like that's it like even even like war nah, bro These motherfuckers are gonna make robots that they fuck Pocket pussy's a benefit. I know I'm being serious. Do that're gonna talk back to you. These dudes, like we're sitting here saying, oh, we live in the fake world,

they're not gonna live in the fuck computer, they're gonna bring the computer out here. For sure. And they're gonna create a fucking robot. You mark my fucking words, bro. It will be one of the most fucking biggest products ever in the history of products. It will be female and male robots

that you design that you fuck. Yep says all the right things Yes, you all the comp. Yeah, it's no talking back like it's like so the loneliness may be solved by a robot Which is another scary thing. Yeah, it's dude Anyway, it isn't you're on this topic those I got something for you guys On the spirit of AI, you know, we have an intro song for the show. Okay, I Got three possible redesigns for you And so let's just play them and see what we vote on This first one this is Andy Mon is Andemon, Andemon. Okay, all right, here we go.

You are stopped in the face, but never know sight from broken, broken to building empires like first form. And that's too no fluff, no filters, just this supreme grit. And the truth, they don't want you to eat her. He's got scars, dogs, and rose rice, and a mission to make you great. Andemon. Andemon.

Hey. Andemon. Andemon like to party. There's one. That's not bad. OK. Yeah, yeah. Not bad. All right.

Now, we do have a lot of Hispanic listeners. Yeah. Yeah. With a little salsa. Yeah. El andio. El andio. Ha ha ha. Andio. It's not bad. I don't know which one that is. Wow, we never did. Somebody's got a Bollywood joint in here. We need some Bollywood.

Oh, hefe. You need to use that outro no matter what part of YouTube. That has to be in the video. I'm not sure if you're watching this. I'm not sure if you're watching this. I'm not sure if you're watching this. I'm not sure if you're watching this. I'm not sure if you're watching this.

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Country Andy stabbed on the back road. He was stabbed in the face, but never lost sight from broken, broken to building empires like first form in S2. No fluff, no filters, just disciplined grit and the truth. They don't want you to hear. He's got scars, dogs, or Rolls-Royce in a mission to make you break. This is really

Priscilla I like on demand Look I gotta go country and because if I went to stagecoach something fish from now. Oh, yeah, you did Oh, you fucking killed it with your outfits to my white boy. Oh, yeah Yeah, you did. I was out there. I was out there, I did, I did. Bro, those outfits were awesome, dude. It was fun embodying the country spirit. I had a good time. Bro, it's hot right now, man.

It was cool. Listen, there ain't nothing better than country music concerts. You get a right kind of mix, bro. It was good, it was cool. Country music's for everybody. Especially country music when Nelly came. Yeah.

Country grammar, bro. Country grammar. Wait, okay, so did you make those songs with AI? Mm-hmm. I mean, that's all AI. How you guys go? Beats and everything. So did you make those songs with AI? Mm-hmm Yeah, it's all AI. Yeah, you guys go beats and everything you guys Copyright protection on me and Joe and no to John When you guys can make songs with me and Joe are gonna make rap rap album He's already has three fucking platinum records. Oh, no shit. Yeah producer rap rap songs. Let's go. Yeah, you want to be in it? Yeah

Why not? Well, we got a handsome black in there, bro. Otherwise, it's not right here today. Yeah, we doubled up Yeah, we're gonna call it the fucking Oreo Guys that's the a icon we call it the ice cream sandwich. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that'd be good. Everybody likes ice cream sandwiches. Oh, wait, I have a question for you. So this is a real question. Going back 75 Hard for a second.

You're going to put me on spot. I'll put everybody on the spot. Yeah, I know. Look, here's the thing. I Love 75 harder than gets life-changing everybody But make no mistake about it. I Love to fucking eat drink party bullshit. Yeah fucking eat like I I love it like I have fun I love going to party. I love you know going with all the homies and shutting down the bar and all that shit for everybody. I love it.

So. Differences. Okay, go ahead. Now you could turn it off when you want to. That's the difference. Okay, I was gonna say. There's nothing wrong. Okay, all right.

Listen. I'll take that. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with fucking drinking or whatever the fuck you wanna do. Like don't take this as like, I went to the fucking sober side. Like fuck, bro. Like I love to fucking drink and I love to smoke weed

and I love to have a good time. But like it doesn't control me, you know what I'm saying? And by the way, we were both fat fucks. And you too, you were a lot fatter too. And so dude, but the difference is, is when you can control your environment versus your environment controlling you. Because like, dude, that's how you get fat as fuck

Yeah, cuz it's just like out of control. All right, one more day one more day one more day. I'll start Monday. I'll start Monday I'll start now when you say I start Monday you fucking start. Yeah, you know I'm saying it's a different thing I mean, that's that's that's I mean There's nothing wrong with you got to live. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know I'm saying it's Western culture, man Yeah part of it that you know, that's all there with, you gotta live. You know what I'm saying? It's Western culture, man. It's part of it. That's all there is to do, fucking here is drink. I've learned that. St. Louis, been there for 24 hours, facts.

Yeah. It's not bad though. Yeah, it's fun. It's cool, like I said, everybody here is hella cool. They're just like, stay away from downtown, you'll be good. That's a fucking fact. It just says.

Is it worse than San Diego's downtown? Is it like? Oh, bro, you're in the murder capital of the world right now. It's like that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, bro, it's like that. St. Louis. They were saying 15-year-olds with AKs and stuff.

Per capita, it's murder capital of the United States. No shit. No, bro, you in the shit right now, bro. Wow. I mean, we're safe right here, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah. Okay.

Yeah, St. Louis is hot, bro. Yeah. That's what I was saying. It's the biggest crazy thing because like. Dude, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah. Okay. Yeah, St. Louis is hot, bro. Yeah. But that's what I was saying. It's the biggest crazy thing because like, Dude, you know what though, dude? Our community is great. Honestly, if you don't, dude, it's, you know what? It's like we're talking about we're fucking AI.

There's fucking, it's polar polarity. Dude, there's great people here, man. And by the way, like dude, really in St. Louis, man, like for the truth of the matter is, is if you don't fuck around You won't find out that's right Like if you mind your business and you're cool even the fucking criminals are cool if you're cool Yeah, but the minute you fucking step on a tell somebody is that's a problem I will say this is interesting about you know st. Louis, too

So obviously you know I live in San Diego here It did feel very, obviously not in this room, but it felt very segregated. I was like, it was weird to do, because I'm in San Diego, SoCal, California, everybody. It was like, it was wild how like I looked over and was like, there's white people, there's black people. Like even when we went to the restaurant last night, it was like, I was the only was like there's white people there's black people Yeah, like even we went to the restaurant last night

It was like it was like I was the only black person there and I don't know if it was just where black I was like, I was like, this is fucking crazy, but it did feel like it was always going that sense We don't say segregated we say safe I Don't know like dude I wait so is it a thing is that like a thing you know the Mike Brown shit here started here Okay, so like when Obama was in office and that Mike Brown shit happened He really stoked the racial shit, and it's just it's become a racial hotbed. I think if we're being honest like Interpersonal communications and like in real life are not like yeah It's just on the internet on the internet it starts to get amplified just like bro. It's like propaganda

Yeah, and we end up with these hot Dude, it's just you know what the truth is it's fucking low IQ shit Okay, like if you're fucking that concerned about race, you're a dumb motherfucker. Okay, like we're all the fucking same. We all come from the same fucking place. Like- We're all getting fucked.

Yeah, yeah. Like that's the point. They want the fucking racial division so they can fuck us with the government. And like, bro, you know, I don't think St. Louis really is that way. Yeah, like everybody's been hella cool. Like all the other stages, etc. I was just like, oh like yeah visually I was like, okay. Yeah, I think I think the nature so I

Don't think that's a black or white thing. I think it's the nature of people here. They're very friendly, but they're also very Skeptical at first, you know, Missouri's called show me state. Yeah, and so What seven I'll show you eight. Yeah, that's right. Once you fucking break that, like if you were to, like as a white dude, like if I, let's say there's a table full

of black people there, and if I were to walk over there and say, they're fucking nicest people in the world, vice versa. But everybody's sorta like, there's a little bit of like, you know what I mean? I don't know you show me You're cool. Show me you're cool. Yeah, show me you're cool

I mean look propaganda whether you believe it or not it impacts it fucking works. Yeah, that's why it works That's why it's a real thing. Yeah, that's real. Wow. Yeah, man. Let's get to some more headlines That was the first cop. I mean we could sit at the same table and shit. That's what you're asking We do go through the back. Not because of the nose, it's the security, all right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck, dude. But yeah, let's get into some more topics, man.

The AI convo was great. Let's get to some more headlines with This Is CTI. Before we get to some more headlines, let's go cruise some comments, because we've got some of those. Cruise some comments sounds like a blast. Cruise the comments. Yeah, we got a couple of them

This was from the last episode ZB lewd less 87 made it a whole four minutes before the first curse and who lost It was me. Yeah, I tried. Wait, was that a bet? Well, who's gonna curse first? It was sort of an unspoken bet. So DJ said All right. So look my dot is trying to tell us not to curse as much because it fucks our YouTube shit up. Oh, okay So don't say fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck yeah, don't do that So my dots been on DJ well my dot and Joe have sort of been on us to be a little cleaner All right, and so in ZB love love saying you guys you guys suck. We made it four minutes That wasn't that the lowest amount of cursing that we've had Joe because we track it right was it pretty low Was oh really where were we at like one 100 110 what's a high?

300 like beats per minute 450 That's one of them shows where I get pissed off yeah, yeah Yeah, that's cool. Yeah Four minutes. So we got new PR now who would have bet that you would be the one to lose that. Yeah Yeah, I know that was that was left. That was out of left field for me. It's wild Any made another post last night you see any's back on the gram. No, I know what you would you put like actual put I've made two now this year. Okay Yeah, so I mean it was a carousel. Carousel, yeah.

It was nice. Oh, multiple photos. We got some comments from that. Peter Howarder, bro's actually a poet. That's correct. That actually is, yeah. You are poetic in a way. Well, you know, I like to write.

Yeah. You ever done spoken word? No, but I think I would do good at it. Yeah, you too. Yeah, I think it'd be cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see it. Have you done it? Nah. Yeah, you'd be good at it too, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it'd be cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see it. Have you done it?

Nah. Yeah, you'd be good at it too though. Yeah, yeah, let me do some shit together. Yeah, yeah, that was nice. Eric, how about you tonight? You did have a, you had an interesting comment on there though. Oh yeah?

From the Brandon Longo. Hey Andy, you probably don't recognize me, but you're my father. I've spent the last 23 years searching for you. Yeah, I said if you were my son It wouldn't have taken you 23 years to find me Your IQ would be a little higher now, bro Now yeah, that's more you were not the father the results you're not the father I'm not the father Can't give you that one

Nah People are wild man. Her apply is great. Yeah. Yeah, man is you know, that is my favorite thing to do is just troll comments And say wow shit when you're free. Oh my god. That's his whole life This dude starts more shit Than anybody like he will just straight up go in and disagree for no reason, just to get people riled up. You know what's funny is people don't understand, like I didn't become an entrepreneur to make money.

I became an entrepreneur to tell somebody to fuck off when they do some dumb shit and not have like worry. You know, that's one of my favorite things about you as a person, just real talk. Thank you. Like I really appreciate authentic people who aren't fake authentic. And what I mean by fake authentic contrarian people who are just like, Oh, fuck you. I disagree just for that.

Just because you will always say I disagree or I agree. And like it's real. And like, dude, it's one of my favorite things about you. Appreciate that. Yeah. That was cool though, man. Guys, we do appreciate you for being real ass fans. Make sure you guys like, comment, and subscribe

and hit that bell notification on the YouTube to stay up to date. He just does it for fun. Like to get people riled up, bro. It is fun. I get a lot of people off. And then he hits me with the screenshots. He'll be like, look at this.

Look what I told this motherfucker. I still go classic with your mom. If someone says something like, I just go, I just hit him with your mom. I had this dude Still go classic with your mom if someone says something like I just go I just had this I had this I had this do the other day. He let me see cuz I Put on my story to what I say the skier guy. Yeah, the ski guy. Yeah, cuz he called me uncle Tom Oh, right. And so I looked at his profile quickly. I'm like, so I commented back to him I said gotta be a white dude saying that I can tell from the profile pic cuz he had A picture. What was it? He was skiing

Niggas don't ski feel But but then I posted a video I do ski ask you once But like by and large niggas don't ski I troll a little bit. It got to somebody one of the listeners found me in a random ass real talking shit. It's like, dude, I found you in the wild. This is amazing. Yeah, I like it, man. It is what it is.

Yeah, you know, people realize, you know, they're used to like, you know, CEOs not saying shit back. So they realize that when you punch back, a lot of them shut up. Like I've had people comment back and they're like, I was just kidding, I love you, dah, dah, dah, dah, you dad. I'm like the best is when you go in your DMS and Someone talks mad shit and then you go on their DM you go in your DMS to them to you

And it's 50,000 I love you, bro. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Fuck you Yeah, yeah, dude and then and then like they're like, oh I just see if I get your attention Fuck you. Yeah. It's Stan. It's classic Stan. Yeah, dude. And then, and then like, they're like, oh, I just see if I get your attention. You're like, you got it, bitch. Block. Yeah.

All right, all right. For sure. Oh, no. I also find great joy in deleting their comments because they're like, I love to delete your comments because they're like, what? You can't, what do you mean? You're on my post.

Yeah. Especially when it's long and they took a long time to think That's so annoying bro, it's so good and I don't blog them so they I want to see it. Oh, dude. That's a good. That's a good. I'm gonna start doing that shit. Yeah Favorite they write a long fucking paragraph. I'd be like I read I had a long fucking paragraph. I'd just be like, I ain't reading all of that. I talk mad shit the fuck I read. I ain't reading all that.

Bro, the internet dynamic is a lot of fun if you don't take it too serious. For sure. Yeah, you gotta laugh at it. Yeah, well, I think that's a big problem. I think a lot of people don't utilize the internet because they're scared. They do, just don't give a fuck.

Yeah, and the way you don't give a fuck is because they don't know you. So it's like, it's hard for me to get offended at anyone, anything that says, because you don't actually know me. Only people are gonna offend me as like friends, right? Like a friend yeah, so it's like it's hard for me to get offended at anyone anything So like because you don't actually know me only people gonna fit me as like friends right like a friend doing someone Oh, it's just fun. Yeah I always think you're talking if you were in front of me right now. You would not say idiot, bro Not only that too. It's like for me. It's like I

And this is gonna sound arrogant. I don't care because it's the truth, but it's like look at your life And look at my life. We wouldn't trade places Yeah, and who what the fuck do you have? How are you giving me an opinion of what I should do when your life looks like? that Need a fucking dick. Yeah, I feel multiple. Yeah You coming for Phil yeah, yeah, he's skinny can't You're coming for Phil. Yeah. Yeah.

He's skinny. He can't hear you. All right, man. Well, let's keep the cruise moving. We got headline number two. Let's get into this one real quick. Oh, headline number one was the AI? All right.

We just skipped over the real one because we just went for too long. That's fine. Yeah. That's fine. It was a good conversation. Yeah. No, it was actually the intro. Oh, was it?

Yeah. You're lying now? No, no. Are you sure? It's here. It's here. Madd it yeah, you're lying now. No, are you sure? It's here. My dad said you're lying Snitching in the workplace Zee Shaz. He lying. Is he lying? Yeah, see we don't tell on each other No, let's just go DJs make this with AI that's a z-sh no, it's all my diet. Yeah, I'm a dog. Yes Did you make it with AI? Oh No, he's these guys are fucking gotcha that for sure that that's z-shon's 7-eleven. He opened the first one on the moon Tell him about it

He's got the first farm ads everything bro pumpkin spice Tell them what do we say when we leave Headline number two, let's get into it FBI. I just noticed that the slurpee was great Yeah, I'm reaching for it, bro. I'm trying to get it. All right, let's get into headline number two. FBI. All right, so there's some interesting things happening.

And this leads to more of what's happening, I guess, in the world. I think it'd be a good convo. So Cash Patel will start with this. Cash Patel completely annihilates low IQ Senator Patty Murray after she foolishly accuses him of weaponizing and politicizing the FBI. So they brought they brought the FBI in for a Senate hearing. All right. There's a bunch of different things a lot of things got brought up. But this was kind of like you know it started off with

this Senator Patty Murray here Here's a clip. Check it out. Gang cases, 3000 cases against violent criminals. That's not my question. We know that you asked if I was weaponizing the FBI and I am not. I'm giving you the hard concrete examples of the men and women putting handcuffs on bad people doing harm to our children and innocent Americans. I do not see weaponization.

But you have placed on leave FBI employees responsible for the investigation of January 6th. That sounds political to me. I have not placed anyone on leave who has not violated their ethical obligation or their oath to the Constitution. So if they were investigating January 6th, you believe they were violating an ethical obligation? Nope. I think the common theme here is you putting words in my mouth and I'm not going to tolerate it, nor will the men and women of the FBI.

Well you did place on leave an analyst responsible for investigating Russia's meddling in the 2016 election. Is that politicization? Is that retribution? No. Not if she broke the law or the ethical guidelines. I don't know which case you're talking about, but that's the standard. And we will hold ourselves inwardly accountable. And we will not be strayed from our mission because people think we are politicizing the Bureau. If you want to talk about someone who was attacked by a weaponized Bureau, you're looking at him.

And now he's the director of the FBI and he's cleaning it up. Well, I would just say to everyone who's listening that the FBI needs to be focused on its mission to keep the entire country safe. It should not be weaponized for partisan political gain. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are. Senator Kennedy. You might have nine inches under there. Yeah.

He's swinging. Yeah. Well, look, man, I mean, you know, these motherfuckers, I mean, it is a known fact that they literally made up the Russia influence with crossfire hurricane and fucking the Steal steal dossier Hillary Clinton fucking had to make it. It's a proven fucking fact and Now she's sitting here acting like it was like it's still fact my thing who who I've never even heard of this lady Well, that's what I don't know like who all these like there's a lot of new faces and people get in these seats

I don't shit. That's another thing we didn't talk about. I was like a I run the fucking government Now I believe in that that I knew I don't know much about Politics so you guys got to educate me. So I Basically what she said basically what So Kash Patel has been legit targeted from the FBI under the Biden administration for the last four years, attacked, harassed, said he was a traitor, put on domestic terror

list. And now motherfuckers, the head of the FBI. Oh, that's what he was referring to. That's what he's like. Hey, bitch. Like, yeah. So the thing you're accusing me. Yeah, these people. And then so like. Yeah, that's what he was referring to. When he was like, hey bitch. Yeah, so. The thing you're accusing me of, I was actually, yeah. And then, so like dude, there's been all kinds of data that's come out, like factual data

that doesn't make it into the media, that has shown that this, you know, Russia interfering in the election in 2016 was a total lie. Hillary Clinton paid her. Campaign team. Her campaign team, this is all fact. Yeah. Her campaign team to contact this dude, Christopher who made up the steel dossier, which was completely Fabricated shit. Okay, and this is like open knowledge. This isn't like yeah

Let me let me ask that again in my ignorance getting up to speed all this So I always go and would like to know because you you'll have both sides say, well, this is a fact. And then the other side says, well, this is a fact. How do you know your fact is more facting than their? Well, that's a good question at this point in time. I mean, because now we're dealing with now we're dealing with a complete propaganda machine, which has no truth.

But there has been trace back. The money was traced back that they can't explain payments from this place to that place. She was also fine. Hillary Clinton's campaign got fined for it. She got fined. Yeah, she was found, yeah, she was found, they fined her $200.

$200, wasn't it? Yeah, it was cheap. $200 fine. And so for eight years, they ran, regardless of what you think of Trump, because I know you're not a fan But the I like some things about Trump. Well, yeah, well you must have grown because I know you used to fucking hate him Let's go there. All right real as fuck. Yeah. Um, so here's how I feel about Trump

It's okay if you hate them Yours both is number one That what we just saw in the video of straight talk I'm always a fan of yeah meaning stop the fucking like passive aggressive or the leading questions like I Love when you see on any kind of media where someone just actually says how they feel. I think that's the healthiest thing ever That is what I love about Trump. Yeah,, love him, grab him by the pussy. At least he said it. He's like, this is who I am.

I think the lesson to learn is that, hey, you can say, grab him by the pussy, but this is how I talk and still be a fucking president. So I actually am. So I have hope. But really though, everyone, it's like, you can be yourself, it's okay to be yourself. I actually have hope It's okay to be yourself yeah, so I actually love that about Trump I love how regardless of what's happening with the government. I love how the fact something's happening Yeah, it feels good. Someone's in office and people are mad at like it's actually happening

I love how there's an efficiency department because like I said about the DMV earlier What the fuck it takes months to get a right like this needs to happen And anybody who's ran a business managed a team etc. I'm sure the government is so Disgustingly and you guys know this by every time you've ever interacted with them ever taxes etc They're length of time to respond it is so fucked up No company no company not a single company would survive the way that the government's ran I love that trump of that into place is he probably getting some revenge on some people to popped off Yeah, yeah, yeah, he probably is now what I don't like and where I was really mad him the first election is I felt like

with his skills He could have put a stop to the divisiveness. I think that's a very fair. That is that is my number That's fair. I think that's a very fair. That is my number one with him. It wasn't even so much what he said as like dog, like especially in COVID when we were all there, it was like, I was like, dog, you can go right now live and bring everyone together, just jack off these people a little bit,

like just like there and bring them together. I think, bro, you're a hundred percent spot on and I agree with you a gazillion percent The one thing I do not like about what he does is he gets super fucking and and this is a problem with the people On the right and in the center and right yeah And it's hard to like judge him because the fucking whack jobs way on the left are so fucking insane That they're eat. It's funny to watch him get fucking pissed off. Yeah, right. Yeah, I agree but But like bro, you're the president. Okay, and here's the reality. What I do not, I, first of all, I don't think,

I don't think whatever he says, no matter what, the media is not gonna help him. No matter what, they fucking hate him. And there's gonna be people way over there with their rainbow fucking haircuts that all hate him no matter what. But I do not hear enough, or at all, And there's gonna be people way over there with the rainbow fucking haircuts that all hate him no matter what. Also agree. But I do not hear enough or at all,

we didn't hear this at all in the first time. Like, hey man, we're all here. This is our place. We should all be getting along. Which is why I liked his speech this year. Yes. When he came in. He's changing.

And that's why I think he won. Obviously he should have never lost. He shot himself in the foot by not just being nice. Dude, I think he could do it. He did. He count. And that's why I think he won. Obviously he should have never lost. He shot himself in the foot by not just being nice. Dude, I think he could do it easily. I think he could do a massive, cause dude, all the country is, is a big culture. Yeah. That's all it is. Okay.

Just like we talk about business culture. It's just big. If he were to come out and say, Hey guys, listen, I know there's some motherfuckers over here on the right that are insane I know there's some people over there that are insane But the 80% 90% of you we all want the same man that that yes I'm waiting for any if he would come out and say I am trying to do the best job I can to create the best opportunity and environment for the 90% that we reach. Yes. The country would transform and like if he came out said

that three or four times. Almost instantly. Yeah it would be totally different. Like you guys we can't be judging each other on based on race. I hate the two-party system. I do like I and they derive all their power from division especially identity politics Gay straight black white Socioeconomically how gay are you? Yeah, are you fucking are you super gay? Right like like it's it's it's insane I think the thing for me with politics where it goes is like for me

I have a hard time trusting anybody who identifies as far right or far Yeah, because now you're being assigned how to think dude. I'm a free thinker. Yes, freedom guy So look if somebody wants to suck dick wear a dick like eat a dick have purple hair I'm gonna fuck care, but also you can't make somebody who doesn't want to do that. No, I know top of that bro There's there's boundaries everywhere like everybody can do you bro, and there's boundaries You don't fucking force it on people's kids for sure Okay Like shit like 100% you don't force people to go to your fucking parade So they're a bigot like people can have their own beliefs and if they have shitty beliefs, it just makes them an asshole

Yes, okay. It's just like fuck dude. You're just a fucking asshole like assholes You should just be assholes like and it was understood. Well now it's if you guys suck We're back there now like no one gives a fuck we say whatever the fuck we want here and everybody gets it Yeah, and like bro everybody gets it. I think that 80 90 percent. Yeah, the realest thing ever Yeah, don't actually think there's that many people who disagree on how You talk to most people, what do they say? They go, you know, conserve, I'm a little more right when it comes to economics and money and I'm a little bit more left on the liberal.

It's just the same fucking conversations. Like I don't like is when people villainize each other. And then also to its well, it's what gets clicks now is what gets click. Yes. And it's just like, also, you got to realize, like, no you think There's not a hundred and fifty million people that are just idiots like it's just like It's like Kamala Harris calling the whole country It's just so arrogant to think that you're so right in a hundred and fifty million other people are wrong Like it's just I just don't like when someone loses their ability to see both sides because now I can't trust you well, dude

Like I guess that's the other piece to Billy. I think is important too. And then again Center Center right has this issue. It's like, you know, the left's always had this issue, but it's like I think it's important Like I like Trump. I don't like everything about Trump. Yeah, I have criticisms I have personal qualms and issues with the Trump administration. I still vote for him, I think he's the best option, but I can still articulate what I don't like about him. Let's put that, let's- Most people can't do that.

Let's break this down on a fucking micro level. How many friends do you have that you're like, I love this dude for this, but this other, I don't like that part. All of them. Yes! All of them. So like, why can we do that in a micro level and still have great relationship and be like, I wish that dude wouldn't drink so much

or I wish that guy, like, hey man, like. I'm still a barrier fucking body. That's right, exactly. Yeah, what I didn't like is how when Trump won this time, it was like the far left was like, oh my God, but just if you voted for that, I don't know how you could be a good person. I don't know. That's why they lost. And, that's why they lost and it's like a hundred percent. It was it's just so among other things. So ridiculous. It's so

lacking self-awareness, right and then the right did it too and I'm just like Guys, don't you realize like this is just all a dance like it's it's all dude I think I think the responsible role of a leader is to bring people together to accomplish a mission. Yes, amen. Okay? And we, I just, I think Trump could do a better job of that. And I think if he did, things would get better a lot faster.

100%. And I think he's doing a lot of good things. Here's what I'll remind people is is especially entrepreneurs, right? Listen to this When he was on the apprentice and for decades for that there was a time when Trump was the guy people Oh, he's in fucking half the rap songs ever made Donald Trump like he was the guy another apprentice. I loved him. Yeah, you know what he was on the apprentice fair Yeah, really fair right like and it was like crazy to see. And it's like, okay, look,

were there some things behind the scene? I'm sure there were, but he also has these sites. So also even you saw the same thing happen with Elon. It was like, I don't know. And you see, I'll give you a right-hand left example so everybody doesn't get their panties in a bunch, but take Elon, the same thing that happened to him right now is since he went right, it's like he's getting all this hate

and obviously there's a lot of shit that's made up, exaggerated, et cetera. I think the same thing happened happened to him right now is since he went right it's like he's getting all this hate and obviously there's a lot Of shit that's made up exaggerated etc I think the same thing happened to Bill Gates like Bill Gates is literally like on record a bunch of times to saying hey I'm donating all my money. He's done a bunch of good. He's helped a bunch of credit. He's done all these things So is Elon bitch. I gave you PayPal you send a Venmo motherfucker I started all that game like I put you on like there's a difference though I mean, I really do think Bill Gates is the evil villain Watch maybe maybe he is yeah, maybe he's not right. I don't see a video him getting pie in the face

No, oh, yeah, he got in public and that's when he was like fuck. I'm killing everybody Evil bill yeah, but my point is though is like I just think it's to me right outside looking it goes I see the same patterns over and over again, right? and then I think the only thing that I would like to interject in the conversation for for the world is that There needs to be more acceptance of what we don't know because as humans We love to make sure that we have an answer and opinion on everything Yeah, it's like that's why we love religion because it's like no no I know that when I die I go there and it gives us peace etc. I know that person's a villain

So now I can feel good about this. I know that that person's scam their way to success So now I can feel good about my mediocrity like we make up these ideas that's real Yeah, we make up these truths instead of just owning the simple fact of I don't know and it's okay to not know something Yeah We don't know and that's like I think people would treat it differently because we act differently when we don't know somebody versus certainty I hate certainty Certainty especially when business every time you meet another badass motherfucker. Aren't you always amazed at how many questions are always asking? It's never about what we know. Oh, you know it is. Oh, well, what are you doing for that? Yeah, it's never a brag fest

It's always a humility learning But then you take someone like you said a mediocre thinker and that person is gonna say all them guys are fool themselves Oh my fucking think they know everything Motherfucker you don't even understand that the way that people like that got there is because they have a very good understanding that they don't Know everything and they are willing to learn. Yes get there. You can't mill it is a requirement of success And these people say oh cuz you drive a fucking Rolls Royce You're not humble. No, I drive a Rolls Royce because I'm very humble and I'm able to take information and it's fucking sick Well, yeah

There's nothing better there's nothing better there's nothing better there's nothing better no There's nothing better. There's nothing better. There's nothing better. No. Nothing. And I'm not apologizing for it. No. And I'm not going to apologize that I can drive

a different car every fucking day of the month. Because you know what? I did shit that you're not willing to do for a long fucking time. Church. And it has nothing to do with being humble or not. It has to do with actually I'm very humble because I'm willing to take in information,

process it, and adapt and realize, oh, I don't know everything. Billy knows some shit more than me. I'm gonna humble because I'm willing to take in information process it and adapt and realize Oh, I don't know everything Billy knows some shit more than me. I'm gonna do what he told me and vice versa Yeah, listen, you know, and so I think that's a it's fucking but dude I agree with that a gazillion percent the the the conversation of unity It needs to happen more and we have to identify that we are intentionally being divided for the benefit of People that do not have our interest as regular humans and we'll call them us peasants. Yeah, okay, and You know people say well, you're rich. You're not a no. I'm a fucking peasant. I'm not in the club You're a peasant. We're that's why we got the pesante water here. Hey, I'm peasants, bro. Got him at Tarjay

That's right. And so like dude, we you know, well fuck I pesante water here. Okay, peasants bro. Got him at Tarjay. That's right And so like dude, we you know, well fuck I got mine over here too, brother We we we are the peasants. Okay, I do have a question for you. Yeah both you So well, my point is if we have to fucking get past the idea that we actually don't like each other Yeah, it's not true. It's not it's fucking not true man The the the other thing that I want question about Trump, which I thought was dangerous, which is why I didn't like it. So again, I'm his biggest fan for if a reporter asks a stupid question, being like, that was a dumb question. I love when NBA players do it too. Like they're like,

wow, how did you feel when you lost? It fucking sucked. I think it's appropriate to say how the fuck do you think I felt? Yeah, I think that's an appropriate Yeah, bro, you know who's the best at fucking Dana White? Yeah I do love him for that. Yeah, so yeah, actually, you know what? He's a good example to me of what Trump should have done more and so Trump will do that But then he'll take it far. So like for example, he'll be like Rosie O'Donnell's fattening idiot The truth or mind you if his comedic timing yeah, right you're the president you can't do that right right you can say

She's acting like an idiot whatever like this, but when you're saying that because now you're green lighting Everybody was looking up to you that doesn't that isn't smart To go up to someone and be like you're fucking fatty to piece of shit and if our kids did that to somebody especially because they're winners or People that we look like we'd be like you don't talk to people. I think I think there's I think there is a level of Conduct that a leader at any level should try to Abide by if they want to be respected and actually bring people together. I do not behave The way I behave ten years ago. Yeah, or twenty years ago

I realized that there's weight to my words and I realized there's weight to my actions And while I still am a dumb immature motherfucker, I try to keep that where it belongs And like at your house after this. Yes, that's right Like you and I we're gonna say about the shit the most but when I'm like out in front of everybody I'm gonna try to remember like hey man I'm here to to set an example and I want to make sure that we we accomplish what we're here to do Yeah, and it's not it, you know, I keep it real but I also understand there's things that you should say and not say and You know, I yes to work on that. Yeah, he does

What's this I think he did which is why he won what is way I think I actually working on it I think it's an active thing, but I also like to just Bring this into the into perception here that when you have a billion dollar industry, okay, that is nonstop attacking you. Billion, trillion. Trillion dollar industry, okay. Because here's the truth, like nobody batted an eye

when Kathy Griffin is holding up a fucking head of them. I mean they definitely batted an eye, I remember that shit. She got canceled for that. She got actually canceled and like went to jail. But my point being is like, you know, like that's cool. We can do that or we can, you know, make the rap songs, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, keep, fuck Donald Trump. Like that's cool, right? Like we, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, I think Trump's issue that, well rubs people the wrong way, but it's an ego thing. But it's like, when nobody else is willing to like toot your horn, but you have to your own. That's a fact.

I actually agree with that. That's a fact. I didn't know it. But yeah, he'll be the first one to tell you like, Hey, when I brought back Tic Tac. Yeah. Yeah. But bro, that's kind of funny. That's real. That's real shit. Like if people do not acknowledge the shit that you do you have to tell them yeah, and okay I'll give you an example for me, okay, I Give a lot of money away period yeah a lot, okay If I don't tell people that I gave a lot of money away

I'm a greedy fuck because of the way. Yes, you're greedy You're this or that but if you do then I'm a douchebag Okay, so yeah, so how do you win? Yeah, right and at the end of the day the way I so I have a boys and girls club in Southeast San Diego called boys and girls club genius Yeah, and yeah, yeah, and then and of course I get the DM's yeah of like man. This is just a marketing move, right? Yeah, but then first of all, I'm like, you know, I the way I quoted is is this is Give loud to inspire the crowd. That's right. I said you rather me do this Silently where only I give money or do it loud and inspire all the homies in my network to give more money

loud and inspire all the homies in my network to give more money. So the fuck I agree with you. No, like what are you talking about? That's what you do. Listen, idiot. That's what produces the Rosie O'Donnell is fat. And you know what I'm saying? That's what produces. I have another political belief that people don't really fuck with. But I'm going to bring it up and carry your guys thoughts. I do believe.

That you should have to take a test to vote on a lot of issues. No, motherfucker, I say that every show. Here it is. Here it is, bro. Here it is. It's a real thing. You not even take a test. If you do not pay taxes that year, or you are behind on your taxes, you do not get a vote. That's fair. If you pay into the system, you can decide how the system operates. 100%. If you do not, you can't. In any clubhouse, this would be acceptable. Right.

Like think about this. So it doesn't matter if you're 14 years old, if you got a job and you're paying taxes, you can vote. If, if, but dude, people that are collecting and not contributing should not have a say. I agree. Because they've created this state now where there's so many people dependent and they have such a voice that all they're going to do is vote in their own interest, which by the way, that's not fair to people like you and me who sacrifice and invest a lot in our outcomes. So, I give the example of- That's real shit.

We should have to, there should be some limitations. 100%. It's like, you know, if you ask your employees, hey, should you have 365 days off a year in some companies? They'll be like, yeah, not considering. Well, how the fuck are we going to make money? Like, okay, yeah, let's, let's go do it. And then not, you know, so I don't know. I also think a lot of people who, who have been,

who've been championing this shit, like, oh, four day work week, two day work week, this, that, the other, they just fuck themselves because now the shitits gonna happen and they're not gonna Have jobs like there's no leverage. Here's the thing and this is the bad part. Okay. I don't like far-left employees They don't work doesn't matter that's the thing they yell and scream and talk about how they're gonna fucking cancel you but they can't Cuz they don't have any money to buy anything. That's the facts, bro. That's what I. They yell and scream and talk about how they're gonna fucking cancel you, but they can't because they don't have any money to buy anything. That's the facts.

Bro, that's what I've learned on this show. I've learned that on this show. I can piss them off and say whatever the fuck I want and they can't do anything because they don't spend money and certainly don't spend money on health and fitness. They don't give a fuck, okay? So it's... This is a hair dye company

and my people are different. Hey, there's some Buff Far-Lefties. Yeah. Is there? Yeah, there's some there's some buff far lefties. Yeah Yeah, the whole gay community Yeah, but I don't think I think most of the gay community are not far left anymore because they Yeah, that's the thing because the left is got like that's the that's not what I'm talking about these I'm talking about the I'm not talking like bro There's a difference between Democrats and leftists. I'm talking about the leftist Democrats I like the general Democrats are reasonable people. They are people who have And they do run businesses and they are like productive. Yes, they do shit

But they also will listen and they will they will say okay that makes sense You know, I'm talking about the crazy motherfuckers I did a drill my company to give you a so we do a morning huddle up and every morning huddle up I've gone zoom everybody goes around or in person Whatever fuck we're in the office and I said after the election What had happened because of a lot of people who are left in my office and I people right too And I said, hey, we're gonna do one drill today Everyone's gonna say what the positive is about Trump getting elected. I don't give a fuck how you feel because the second you lose your ability

to be able to see the other side, you are the fucking problem. That's right. Don't you get it twisted? You are. Same thing. It would have been the same the other way. You know what I mean? Like you have to be able to see. So what would you say positive about Biden? What would you say what I mean? Like you have to be able to see so what would you say? What would you say? I know what I would say. Well, you say first up. Fuck. I like ice cream. I mean I like that He likes ice cream. No, see that's what they tried to do

I would say well, he's so old he might die That's a good thing it's a hard drill That's the thing like the window has shifted because like when you tie your identity to this I just did you did not do it Notice he did not do it. He continued on it. He did not do I'll be real with you both. I think like I have a different perspective on that I think the amount of destruction that that man has done to this country, I mean, you talk about-

It's treasonous. Bro, you talk about like not uniting, like Trump needs to do better on uniting. I'm with that 100%. Biden has intentionally divided this. Yes, not only that, bro. Intentionally weaken the country, intentionally. Intentionally.

And it's traceable through the funds that he's received over the number of years. That's why they pardoned everybody at the end. Like they were taking money. I don't know how much you know about this, but they were taking foreign influence money and pay for play, meaning things like this. And before I say this, allegedly. Okay. But, you know, Hunter Biden selling fucking paintings for $50,000 that he fucking squirted some paint. Where's that coming from?

Oh, it's coming from- Okay, I did hear a lot about the Hunter Biden thing. I never knew much about it. Yeah, it's coming from foreign buyers and what are they getting in return? And then you have, bro- Bro, Hunter Biden was on a board- For Burisma.

For Burisma, which is a Ukrainian gas company, oil and gas company. This was in 2014. Who was in office in 2014? Barack and Joe Biden, right? Hunter Biden magically got on this fucking billion dollar company board with zero experience, zero back-ending, simply because he was the son of the Vice President of the United States.

Biden goes over there, makes him fire a fucking prosecutor who was looking into that company, right? Ukraine fires that prosecutor. He gives him a billion dollars. And then he releases a billion dollars of United States aid to that country. Years later, now fast forward, right? Fast forward.

What war has the United States been supporting by proxy for the last few years? Okay, let me ask you guys this. Because let's say what you're saying is true. Yeah, it is true. No, yeah. Okay. So let's say that it happened. Where do you guys go? What, what amount of thought do you put to everything that we don't see and we'll

never see it? Cause we're not in there, right? Like in the meetings, right? There's probably all kinds of stuff for public safety that's never shared. Right. How's that right? I would imagine. Well, no, I'm saying, is that morally right? Let me ask you this. You think it is? Let me think of a way to run our companies. I'm a transparent leader and so are you, but there's still some shit that's like a me and CFO. That's that might be true, but also we're paying the employees. They're not paying us. Hmm. That's that's too shy. All right. That's fair.

But also, so if the employees were paying us. That's a big difference. That's too shy. That's a big difference. All right. That's fair. But also- So if the employees were paying us to operate the company, would they not deserve the right to know what the fuck was going on? Honestly, we just established how many stupid people there are. If I'm president, I'm definitely gonna lie to you all about some shit. Make no mistake. Like, 100%.

Like, there's some situations that you think, I'm definitely gonna lie to you guys about some shit. But Billy, that's not why they're lying. They're lying now for their own benefit, and that's the problem, okay? It's not lying to protect you and me. That's the excuse they use. National security.

So like the Patriot Act, like let's take the, do you know the Patriot Act? Teach me, teach me. Okay, so when 9-11 happened, they came out with the Patriot Act, which allowed us to spy on foreign enemies. And all of us were like, fuck Yeah, let's fucking get them because back then dude None of us really understood that there was an agenda at play that was not in our interest

We all believed America loves us our government loves us. They protect us. They gave us an enemy. We went after them That's right. So so naturally, you know, we're all on the same team Yeah, this guy's throw a rock and it hits you in the fucking face. And we're like fucking kill him. Right. Yeah. But what if that motherfucker threw the rock was paid by him to start the shit because he had interest that we're going to make him money. It happens a lot. That's so, so, so now we're dealing with a situation where we've all figured out

that these people are not operating with our interests in mind. So it's, and it's very apparent and trackable So the Patriot Act basically started this the Patriot Act was this act that said we can spy on people That are over in the Middle East basically enemies of America, but then they created domestic terrorism So now by on now if you speak out or say something, and they can spy on you. So they, and this is what Snowden did. Snowden came out and Edward Snowden came out and told this. And then they labeled him as a trader when all he was said, Hey,

you're so right. We're going to do it to you. Yes. Listen, the government is recording everything that you say. Every picture, every phone call call every text message I don't think any of that's new right like that's not new. Well, that's new for the that's from the Patriot It's new of like 2002 2003. Do we think so? You don't think the government was looking at our shit before you? Well, they didn't have the technology. Yeah, it didn't really exist. I mean wiretapping was a thing Sure, but yeah, I mean but even that required court process. The differences with the Patriot,

it doesn't require any of that. It bypasses. To me, it sounds like, again, just hearing, it feels like now we have the NIL deals with college, but it's like, they've been getting paid. You know what I mean? They've been getting paid. College players have been getting paid to go somewhere.

But I get what you guys are saying as far as weaponizing this to their benefit. At some,'s here's the the book we could sum it up by saying this We pay them to look out for us and when they stop looking out for us You start sending the money overseas to get it funneled back to their own fucking pockets Which is how they go in making a hundred seventy five K a year and walk out worth the hundred million dollars. I agree Okay, that's a fucking problem And then when they I do like how well they escalate that bro So now what they do is now for example the the like, okay

You saw what happened in Afghanistan where they left all the equipment over there. All right Why do they do that? Well, they all own stock and fucking Raytheon and and Lockheed and all these things and then by getting involved in Ukraine We don't have the equipment So now they're gonna make more and their stock goes up So it's all a big fucking fuck job for all of us while they tax you you're in fucking, California, bro You're getting raped. Okay, that's Yeah, you're paying you you are paying over 50% of your income to the government

I cried right now if you pay over 50% of the year income to the government. What does that make you a ho? No, what's it make you bro? What it makes you a fucking slave? You work more for the government than you do for you I get it that's not okay, and that's not free I definitely agree. We're all the same right we are slave class, bro. We are fucking slave class. We are just told we were free. And we are not free. And once you see it, you can't unsee it. So I believe, and again, I'm hearing this right,

this is new, but I believe what you guys are saying. It makes sense. And like, okay, I just say to you two, do you have the same energy on the other side because to me I do I think I can Yell that by both Right now I'm getting yelled at is no right like that that is that's the government Democrats doing it bro. Like no, they're all in the same. So we listen. There's's three. There's three categories of officials right now. Yeah, there is Democrats there is Republicans and these what we would call established Democrats established Republicans, and then there is non-affiliated

Members of each party very few there's a few Democrats that are not Establishment Democrats meaning they are in office to actually make change. On the Republican side, there's a few more, all right? The reason they hate Trump so much, and the reason both sides fucking hate him, is because he is the least like that out of all the politicians. He's independently wealthy.

I like Trump for that, same page. So he is a third third he represents a third unaffiliated class of political figure that isn't on the The take the way these other two are yeah, okay And now what's happened is we've had these fucking establishment guys on the right and establishment people on the red left Try to weasel their way into their fucking our game up we've Had this thing running for hundreds of years. He's coming. He's fucking our game up, but now they've tried now they've in they've

infiltrated his shit so now like these people are fucking scavengers dude and Basically what we have is a totally corrupt system that needs to be the real the real fucking talk is it needs to be fucking wiped clean and started over I agree, but I do think that a lot of this happens Less from well, I don't want to say less than agenda, but I do think it's just Humans doing what they've done throughout history, which is put themselves first. That's right. So like, you know when Biden is doing his thing Well, what's the fucking saying? He's doing what's the same uncorrupted or unchecked?

Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's Billy it's happened. It's happened for so long that it's just so Infested with shit that like I don't think it can be fucking fixed. I think it has to be burnt the fuck down with shit, like I don't think it can be fucking fixed. I think it has to be burnt the fuck down. And now we're dealing with people who are born into it, it's just the way it is. You know what I'm saying? Like kids born into technology world now,

like they don't know what the fuck a letter is, how to write it, like no, it's Instagram DMs, right? Like that's just how it is. You know, I think the political landscape, left or right, again, like I don't look at it as a difference there. It's changed over the course of this country's history, right, like it used to be, you know, we were farmers, bro.

And like, you know, there was a problem going on and we saw something that was gonna affect our farms and our local communities. I'm gonna go in office, I'm gonna serve for this, you know, quick term. I'm gonna vote on the shit that I said I was gonna vote on, fix the shit I said I was gonna fix. And I'm going back to my fucking farm

These people are in office for 40 fucking years, bro. Yeah, I don't think that's healthy Yeah, accomplish what and then they come out they overtax us They spend 40 years in fucking office come out worth hundreds of millions of dollars I mean that's gonna fix what and fix what all they do is cause more to know they they it's it's and create No, you said it earlier. It's a fucking, it's a dance. It's a fake, it's fake. We're gonna fix, they have no intention of fixing it. No, bro.

And then they come out on camera, act like they argue with each other, and then go play golf and have dinner together. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What do you think about that picture that went viral with Obama and Trump laughing together? Yeah.

Yeah. You think it, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like. No, trust me, dude. I get yelled that now because now I'm like now I'm criticizing Trump and people are mad because I'm not just like

mindlessly like wrote. OK, to quit. Your friends and people. It's OK. It's OK. You're supposed to. Yeah, it's all right. Well, you have to look at shit objectively, man. It's like, is it is it working

or is it not? I think you mentioned purpose earlier? I do think people find Purpose and being on a team right? That's why you kind of join. Yeah, I'm here culture. Yeah, and so it makes them happy You know part of their identity. Yeah, that's right guys arms around fuck the libtards Oh, you know fuck those far-right fascists like you know, it gives them and you can't fix anything like that Yeah, you can't fix anything, but it makes them feel better. Yeah, I agree with these feelings instead of result. Well. It's the same thing It's it's it's it's group think it's no different It's it's a it's an it's a very unhealthy way of being a fan. That's what it is Like I'm a Cardinals fan, I fucking don't like the Cubs fans right like I'm a guy. Yeah, I'm a forgot right

Yeah, that's true. It's the same shit and we're all we're all Conditioned to doing that in different areas of our life, but when it comes to politics, it's very unhealthy Because we can't solve anything and the other thing is to I'll say this like I don't believe that like all politicians go into office With that nefarious, like, no they get sucked in. They get in, they see how the game is played, and then they're left no options. Or they get blackmailed to go along.

If people really know how politics, these fucking committee seats work, bro, like, imagine- It's like we talked about business in the beginning. It's payola and relationships. And like fuck, everybody's playing the game, you have no choice, right? Like if people really knew how the,

like for example, let's look at the city, the Senate committee real quick, right? Let's say you're a new Senator, you just got elected. You raised two, three million dollars from your constituents, they voted you in, you won your election, you're in now, right? And you wanna go sit on the Senate Appropriations Committee, right?

Well, those seats, each one of those seats, they cost. They cost you, like you have to pay to be on that panel. So your PAC pays. Right? And so, okay, well, depending on the committee, those seats can go anywhere from 500 grand to a million bucks. Well, fuck, you just raised two million

and you spent it on your campaign. You don't have money. Here's this lobby that comes in. Oh, okay. Billy, you want to get on that seat? We'll pay for your seat there. No problem. Just make sure when this vote comes up, you vote for this. Yeah. Classic. And so like there's a, like, dude, there's a bunch of problems in government that needs to be addressed. Term limits, lobby.

This is literally why though, like just with anything is I'm so big on just investing in my personal brand for the last decade And like what I did I need you know if I want to be free my own money You want to have your own voice you want to have your own direct line with people like it's Dude, it's what I say. It's what we say here all the time to your personal excellence ultimate rebellion If you if you if you create your individual self into an uncontrollable human you're gonna win and you'll be free The free is you can be right? You know, right if you they want your fat you got to be fit. They want you broke

You got to make money they want you to hate the the thing that you aren't you got to get along with those people Yeah, right. They you got to do everything opposite of what they tell you because everything they tell you is for the last part You said that's good because we all need to be better at that. Yeah, that's good. Dude. It's real shit And that's why they don't come out and say the shit that we're like, why aren't they saying this? Yeah, why don't they come out and say hey black people and white people? You're all a bunch of fucking idiots get along Yeah, like what if what that's not hard like that's it's really Yeah, and the thing is though like but again going back to reality, bro Like I remember even in the high like you have the the George Floyd shit, like even in the height of it, bro,

me and Andy were going across the country, doing these talks, speaking to people, meeting people. Real world, bro, the shit didn't exist like that. Like we didn't walk down the street and like, it was like in the real world, it does not exist. I wouldn't say it doesn't exist. I would say- That's a little deep, but I get what you're saying.

I get your point of like- If you watch CNN and you watch fucking Fox, you think it's fucking everywhere. Now that doesn't exist. You think it's everywhere. What deep, but I get what you're saying. I get your point of like. If you watch CNN and you watch fucking Fox, you think it's fucking everywhere. Now that doesn't exist. What CNN and Fox do is a small window that they blow up. I agree. That is bullshit. That is bullshit.

Well, I think there's racism on both sides. Yeah, yeah. There's fucking. For sure. I mean, there's no doubt, bro. It's openly acceptable to hate white people. Openly acceptable. I will agree with you on that.

And that's, you know, like that's where I get pissed off on the race conversation. Cause it's like, bro, you gonna call me a racist for breathing the fucking air cause I exist when it's okay to legitimately fucking hate white people out in the open? I agree with you. Yeah.

And like, it's all, it's wrong no matter what. Yeah. You know, and I'm just tired, I'm tired of that shit. Like, bro, fuck off. Like I got stabbed in the face for that fucking cause. Like I'm not gonna hear it, you know? Yeah. I would say, yeah, I'm with you a thousand percent is,

it is this weird time where, you know, like, I fuck with the jokes of like, yo, like, it's hard out here as a white man right now with, you know, how much this, but also too, I do think there is this weird conversation right now on the white side that racism like it doesn't exist that that one pisses me off And so I think what I think what they're saying, bro. I think I I could tell you what I think That means like people have an a tendency to speak in absolutes, right? What what when when people say, I don't believe,

because I've said that before, it doesn't exist. But I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm saying it doesn't exist the way that we're saying it exists. Yeah, yeah. Right? Like, I don't fucking get invited to the Klan fucking barbecues. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, bro, I've been a white guy my whole life, bro. And I'm a very outspoken. I've never fucking met one of these motherfuckers. Like, I've never seen a dude walking around in a pointy fucking hat.oken. I've never fucking met one of these motherfuckers Like I've never seen a dude walking around a pointy fucking hat like yeah I've never think the easiest way of where it's at now How I try and explain to people is I don't think it's the old school clanship for the most part, right? You have idiots out there very rare. I think it's mostly just we have our biases

So for example take race out of it for a second. You know, me and you vibe, we both played sports. We run businesses. We believe in hard work. We share a lot of commonalities and values, sense of humor, laugh at the same stupid shit. If somebody comes along and they're different than us, we're probably gonna have a slight favoritism towards us.

And I think that is what modern day racism-day racism is I actually we have bias But but that's what we're comfortable. Yeah, but brother. That's not actually racism. That's just biases towards Where it becomes racism or could feel like that to people as if Me and you look the same and there was was 100 more people that looked the same like that and now we still shared that. It's going to feel like racism. What do you mean? You know what I mean?

So what I'm saying is essentially, so going back to we share those common values, if we're 100 white guys all sharing those common values and then everybody else who's not like us is all black, you're not gonna be like, I don't like you because you're not black, but it doesn't change the fact It's still a hundred white people saying it against a hundred black people. Does that make sense? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like tribalism. I mean, it's

Brother that's that's that's not that that exists amongst every culture And that's what I think the racism is Okay, so I don't disagree with that but where I get fucking pissed off is because for 20 motherfuck for my whole life Okay, I've been told And it's progressively gotten worse. Yeah that now it's to the point where and it's getting better now now people are like dude This is fucking stupid. So But there was a point a few years ago where if you were fucking white you were racist by default You just don't know it. Yeah, yeah, and it's like You know and and like dude, you know this thing of like I'm

Responsible for what happened 400 fucking years ago motherfucker. My family wasn't even here. And by the way, I'm responsible for what happened 400 fucking years ago. Motherfucker, my family wasn't even here. And by the way, I'm Sicilian, which means our people were conquered by black people and raped my, my blood is part fucking African because of it. So like when we really break this down, it's just a stupid fucking argument. And the reality of it is, is that we can't control what happened we can control what happens now and What should with that with that because I because I i'm with you on the same page. So

What is your guys's feelings on the conversation around privilege? I don't think I don't think I think there's american privilege bro, and I think we're think we're all greedy. I have a hard time buying into that, that there's this privilege. Andy's not where he's at because he's privileged. Andy's where he's at because for the last 26 years, he's worked his ass off. If I do the exact same thing that dude did for the next 26 years,

there's a good chance I'm gonna be exactly where he's at. Or successful. Or even very least. Right? I mean, there's, listen. So you DJ, this is interesting. So you don't think privilege exists? I don't, no, absolutely not. I think there's, I think we have American privilege.

I think we're the most. Okay, so what's American privilege? I think we're the most privileged people because shit's too good. We don't, like, we can make up problems. We make up problems, yeah. We try to, what if you believe, I mean, so if you believe in American privilege,

then you kind of by default believe in white privilege. Because if you realize, well, hold on, there's different perspectives here. Because there's also, there's black privilege. Yeah, I agree. So let me go. So like, you know, if there's American privilege, then when people talk about white privilege, you have to understand that's real because you're saying in America, we have it too good. We all agree with that with that right we've seen some other countries and how we're living like clean water We get that also too if you were white and you were allowed your grandparents were allowed to owned Land and own property and pass it down. That's fucking privilege

Yeah, but like I mean by the way, it's not a bad thing which I want to get to a second But it exists like my wife's my wife. I have a black wife black wife. Okay, you ain't gotta feel sorry for me or nothing. But her family, her family has like 500 fucking acres down in Arkansas that like was been passed down. You're not gonna talk about a unicorn and talk about the mass, right? But that's most, there's a lot of black owners that own property down south, like you know what I'm saying?

So like my- You know what, hold on, hold on, hold Oh, like just the fact of that cuz we like facts and real it's like the person you're talking about like a What like black people were not allowed to own property for so long. Like this is Hold on. There's no everywhere. We weren't even a lily like Billy guys That's not untrue, but there's also been a lot more white people here than black people the entire time It's existed. Yeah. Yeah, but like also but so okay Let's just start like cuz just so we're all on the same page cuz we were all pretty much agreeing except for this topic I'm acknowledging

Let me let me rephrase it take my daughter. Mm-hmm. We can all agree My baby is privileged as a motherfucker. She got Rolodex, she'll grow up and have property, she'll have down payment, she'll have education, she'll have all of that because of her dad's hard work. So why didn't white privilege stop you? And so, see now you're putting words in my mouth, I'm just asking. I didn't say white privilege stopped you. And so I didn't say see now you're putting words in my mouth. I'm just I didn't say white privilege stopped me. I didn't say anything else besides the fact we're going to acknowledge that it exists. If you because I think privilege exists, but I don't think it's exclusively to white people. Correct. Correct. But just white privilege just happens to have a lot more advantages than some of the other ones. That's all. But I agree with you. There's privilege in all different types. But for example, if our grandparents, great whatever,

were allowed to own land, own property, go to good schools, had other grandparents who were attorneys, doctors, et cetera, would they not have a massive advantage? No, because here's the thing. Okay, that's just, okay, that was lying. What are you talking about? Literally, that's just like, man, what do you mean? Let me say this.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, let me just finish the last thing. So my daughter has all the things that we just talked about, and we acknowledge she has privilege. So how can you not acknowledge that there's white privilege? I don't. Let me say this, Bill, because the thing is I have to get black you can give somebody

You can give somebody all the shit in the world. They should have to do it. I guarantee. Yes I agree so even though like I have two daughters right yeah, I'm setting them up for fucking success I agree. It's not a guarantee. They're gonna make it I agree right There is still a lot of white people who have those same advantages. They're still white try. I agree They're still there's more poor white people. It just doesn't change the fact that it exists I agree with you still have to do more. It doesn't take away That's what my daughter's still gonna have to work her ass. I guess what I get it most people Why or black that are successful came from shit like hard work is hard work. You can't out beat that

My question is everything you just my question is Acknowledging black delivers to bro. There's black privilege too, bro. Well, what's black privilege? What does it change? Black privilege is... What does it change? Acknowledging that white privilege exists, what does it change? Empathy.

So what? Let me explain it to you. What does it change? Let me explain it to you. If a kid was here, I'm just gonna, I hate to, random country, and they're here and they grew up without running water, without electricity, without education, et cetera. All three of us, and they came here in this room today,

and they're around us, all three of us would be a little bit more empathetic. We would be more open, we would see how we could help, we would pour into them. If somebody just down the street came through and was like, yo guys, Billy Jean, Andy F we're still let me is we're a little less Empathetic like it's just it's built in us. It's empathy empathy is the difference and that's why acknowledging things is important What is it? What about the same time?

It's not a hall pass now don't no one get this much as confused that this is a fucking green light to be a victim Well, it's been presented that way. I okay and it's been I agree with you on that one out in front of my fucking face. I agree with you on that. Like motherfuckers discounting the price I have paid to get where I'm at Do you know when people tell me that I'm where I'm at because I fucking got some sort of privilege I want to fucking choke them for sure because I can promise you every single one of those Motherfuckers that said that could not walk a fucking day in my shoes none of them I okay, so I but do you agree that cuz I'm also on top of that I

Have been having to deal with that my entire life being told that I have it easier when motherfucker I've almost blown my brains out a thousand fucking times to get where I'm at on top of that I can't point simple things out. Otherwise, I'm racist such as That six percent of the fucking men in this country create fifty plus percent of the violent crime That is a fucking statistical fact that does not make you a racist for pointing it out Okay, because if we do not acknowledge that how can we solve the problem? the actual racism exists in ignoring that and pretending that it Doesn't exist because the reality is is if you actually gave a fuck about black people in this country. You would be able to say

This is a problem. We need to fix this problem. We wouldn't say oh, that's not actually true. You're a racist Okay, so I actually have a needs to be there needs to be true. Yes, and also to you like I mean since we met like you grew Up like I let me just say I think it's wrong for people to do that to you. Well, no try There's more to this there's more to this too. Yeah, okay We can open this country. It is acceptable and it has been acceptable my entire life to It is acceptable and it has been acceptable my entire life to Fucking hate white people in the open there has always existed black entertainment television There has always existed the black Grammys

There has always existed all these things that segregate society, but we didn't get invited to those which is why they were there Maybe I don't know it didn't happen in my fucking lifetime I'm not concerned with what happened before I was here with all I can why people are mad all I can control All I can control is how I behave and how I behave I have friend I have Syed who is Indian I have my dot who is Bosnian. I have DJ who is black I've got Billy who is black to me you motherfuckers are just my friends Yeah, and I don't give a fuck how black you are Indian you in fact I'm gonna make funny about it because you're gonna make fun of me about it. Okay, that's what friends do

So like there is multiple sides to this equation and at the end of the day I don't think that you're making an inaccurate point But what I do think is that it's been hung out in front of society, and I think it's enabled and created a culture amongst certain groups of people, both white and black and Asian, of victim class. And we're telling them that the reason that you can't succeed is because of something that happened 200 years ago and you and you are examples of that not being true that is not fucking true you drive a fucking Rolls Royce just like I fucking drive one okay but hey but you have more cars than me but that's cuz that's cuz of privilege so

but my point is my point is is that we can argue these things Yeah, but at the end of the fucking day, bro We as grown men have an obligation to put an end to the division and the device of shit So I agree with you and what you just I don't think you I don't think I don't think that you're wrong and what you're saying But we can't generalize all white people in that because like for example My family came to the United States in the 20s, and they were extremely poor. They were bricklayers okay, and they my dad grew up in a family of fucking 12 motherfuckers and When they starved when they were kids they were fucking starving. Yeah, they collected fucking rainwater to fucking drink it. Okay?

Our generation and my family went from very poor to not as poor to a little bit better to where now I've been presented with an opportunity. And while I wasn't given any money, I was blessed with a father that cared about me, that taught me a lot of valuable lessons. And so that could be considered privilege, which is why I give so much back. That's why I teach what I know, because I know that not everybody out there had a dad like I had or a mom like I had

that was willing to teach me things. So there's gonna be privileges in different areas no matter who you are. And I just don't feel like I Think I feel like we were at a point in time in culture where we really need to understand That no matter what's happened. There is good people and there's bad people and no matter what's happened all we can control is what we do now and Do the best that we fucking can and and and that And that's how I've always felt. Like dude, when I think of like American heroes, bro,

and I know a lot of people say that Martin Luther King was a communist and all this shit, I don't give a fuck. His message was fucking right. Content of character, okay? And discrimination or special standards, we live in a meritocracy. And until that changes, it is what it is Everybody should be treated with respect everybody should be having and here's what I will say. Yeah

There is a problem with the black communities, but the but the problem is not white people doing it But here's the problem the problem is the fucking Democrats that they voted for for 60 fucking years come in every fucking four years and say fucking Democrats that they voted for for 60 fucking years come in every fucking four years and say, Billy, we're going to fix your people. We're going to fix your neighborhood. We're going to get you money for fucking schools and infrastructure and this and that and this. And then they don't do any of it. They go and they take the money. And these are not just white people. This isn't people on the right. This is the people they're voting for. And this is black people doing it to their own fucking people So they vote for black people the black people go to Washington

They figure out how to steal the money and fuck over their own people. So how is that my fucking fault, right? How is it my fault? So how's it my fault that I can fucking say? Hey, here's the I'm a business guy You're a data guy, right? Yeah, like we look at data all here. We do. Okay here Here's what I got to solve We have six percent of the population Committing 52 percent of the crime and most of that crime is done amongst their own people in their own neighborhood How do we fix that? Yeah, but we also look at history and the why the first the first Yeah, but we also look at history and the why. The first way that we fix that, if we actually care about those people, which we should,

because they're all Americans and that's the principle of America. Now it's what America's been founded on. But it was founded on slavery. Well, it's founded on a set of principles. For certain people. Well, you know what I mean? That's the, because we're on the same page. Cause I want to just first say.

I can't control what they did I control what we do and you do a good job of that but what I'm saying is is we have to acknowledge what the problems are and Allow them to be addressed and solved and not called racist because we acknowledge them I agree with that. I'm saying like that's my piece on it too, bro. It's like, you know my upbringing bro, right? Like where I grew up The worst area you could possibly grow up. I'm talking about the worst area in St. Louis.

I saw my first dead body at nine years old taking out the trash, bro. Bad. My dad was out of my life. You seen Boys in the Hood? Yeah, of course. You know Doughboy? It was based on him.

Never shut up. I think that's moving up. Ricky! Bro, it's one of the best ever. Single parent household, right? It was based on him Single parent household right my mom's white Okay You don't if white print by my thing is on this like the white privilege part, bro If it did exist if it does exist like we say it does Where the fuck was I would have loved to have a guess what you missed out on my brother So if we're gonna say if we're gonna say that Where the fuck was I would have loved to have? Guess what? You missed out on my brother. I would love to have. Hold on, bro. Let me ask you this. So if we're gonna say that,

then couldn't I say because I'm Sicilian and American Indian, couldn't I say fuck, my people were fucking treated terrible. My people were conquered by the Moors. So listen, I mean. So where's it stop? I saw this, I'll tell you guys. I heard you. Hold on, hold on. Now we go, let's go to the Moors. So listen, I mean so where's it stop?

There's now we go let's go to the Irish people Irish people were literally held slavery Those those those things were bad too, right? They're all bad. Yeah. Yeah, that's my point for sure They're all bad, but we're talking about America specifically here, right? So let's just a couple things number one You're correct. I agree that it is bullshit that people discredit not just you, but any race and their hard work and dedication and almost like villainizing people for how they were born, you know, because that's fucking ridiculous. And I think that you do have a right to be mad about that. Like that's, well after fucking 40 years, it gets annoying.

Well especially, and then you probably have even more because you're like, what are you talking about? Like I've had black friends my whole life. I played sport like I don't like you like for you like it's like Like this is fucking stupid. What are you doing that? So that is validated as fuck to be angry Yeah, like you are like hey, well, I'm not really angry. It's just like Stupid fuck man, like I do you're like you're like I get money like that like literally what else can I do right? You're like I have free podcasts I help everybody like I do what I can like the world is better because of your impact you can't deny that

Well, it's the facts you too, but it is it is like that's a real talk. I'm not you too. I know that Yeah, and you're saying like yo, there's this whole story about white privilege But I had to live in the shittiest fucking place ever not a dog my mom's's white. Like, ironically, there's this big thing where the fuck was it for me? Family like also raised me as white. So where is none of them added? Also, well, who are we talking about here? Yeah. Like, are we talking about like, hold on. Are we talking about like Anderson Cooper, who grew up as a Vanderbilt

in the Van Roof mansion and his property was passed down. He's worth fucking hundreds of millions of dollars. That's why privilege. That's what I'm like. A like a hundred percent. Yeah, it's such a small person. I think it's I think it's just It's a it's a big deal But I think it's a because that's that's that's that fits in the framework of the example that you're providing. Yes, which is 200 years ago their family passed down and he's had privilege because of it and clearly he's had it because he's fucking I think what like the if is did you have it, did you have it, did you have it, but the absolute was we didn't have it.

But most people don't have it. No, no, no, but we weren't even allowed to have it. It's just like, I'm not, my only point here, first of all, even if you don't, what I'm saying I believe to be true, it doesn't change the fact that anybody has an excuse to not fucking be successful in present-day today now I'm also going to acknowledge that it is harder for some people but guess what still not a fucking excuse

It's your deck of cards play a fucking accordingly and it is what well, that's reality when that's reality And I think that well, that's what we talked about you and I talked about that for decades That's like here's the reality for some motherfuckers, it's going to be fucking harder. That's it. And now move forward. And now move forward. So all on the same page there and you're right. No, I mean, that's a fair, that's a, that's a, well, what you said is a fair point. Okay. And I would like to acknowledge that because you didn't have it. That's fair. Yeah. Okay. Some white people had it, but most white people also didn't have it.

Yeah. All right, so. I feel like that's my thing. It's like, we're talking about. But also, but I don't know that that's. Let me just like one other point too is like, the biggest advantage that someone can have generationally, as we know here, is here.

It's not the possessions, et cetera. And honestly, knowledge takes generations to pass sometimes. So when our generation starts here and we weren't allowed to read, then we weren't allowed to get property, and now we're not, and now you have this group of people who at times it feels like you're saying,

hey, why don't you guys just get your shit together? And it's like, we're trying to catch up, motherfucker. But everybody. Because it takes a generation to pass down. So if you look at the stats for black people, it is getting better. It's getting better for everybody But while that gap and that's why you have movements like affirmative action, etc. It's to help accelerate From the decelerator. Okay, let me ask you this right? Okay, that's how these things came about I'm not saying it should or not, but that's how it came about

Let me let me let me say this real quick because I think this is important right? I look at it like this again. I have to see I look at it like this How many fucking white people who were qualified for jobs were fired or not given jobs to an unqualified person of color? Is that not racism watch this now? They may have on is that not racism? I think maybe yeah, I think one could argue but also especially one Let's just say they're both qualified and that still would be racist if you're doing it however It was a it was an effort to try and accelerate But that's right and like not like good or bad

It's like there's pros and cons to all of this right and and so I think it's a hard issue Period because look if I'm born today today and I'm white I'm saying Suck my dick. I'm not giving you money for what happened a long time ago Because I don't give a fuck I got bills to pay in life is hard. That's that's I Understand that also too in the same breath You can't be mad or Let me let me rephrase it like this. If that is the attitude or energy that's going to be put out about it, how can you also expect people to be empathetic to your cause?

Well, and like, and whatever that may be, generally speaking. Right. Okay. So there's the opposite of that too. So if you're told that you're racist because of the color of your skin, and if you're told that you don't get opportunities because other people who may be equally as qualified or less qualified get them instead, how does that solve the racial problem? Because you know what that does?

That makes fucking the people who are getting fucked hate the other people. Yeah, for sure. I mean, look, you can understand everybody's like anger in the situation But I mean we're going back to winners can't solve racism with more racism Yeah, but I don't know I don't know if necessarily like like put it this way. Are we racist if? if there's a If there's a, I don't know, let's call it bias. Let's say that we're in a race and there's somebody with one leg and we gave them a wheel.

But now they can beat us in the race? No, we call that the Paralympics. That's the Paralympics. We don't race together, it's different than I'm producing. Yeah, that was called segregation, I get it. That's my point. Listen, it has its place sometimes Okay

Where's that? Where's the expiration on that? So going now? That's a fair question I want to get to that because that's that's a good-ass point But yeah, like if someone had a will we gave them a we're not gonna all so like oh We're racist now dot it out because they have a chance but they can't beat us cuz they got a fucking wheel now and so now things competitive We got to step up our games to get ours, but we also know there's enough for everybody to eat So there's that now the expurgation That's a hard part right because it's like how far back in time do we get now mind you this is not long Let me ask you something like my let me ask you something

Regation wasn't allowed to like go to the same school. Right. So this is not a far away thing. So did our family. Point of history. So we're Italian. So we're Irish. Okay.

I mean look, there's other races that get benefits. Bro, every, every, every, every, stop. Every culture that exists at some point in time was held in slavery bondage. Every one of them. Correct. But because, but because all Americans were dealing with American History hold on hold on so so if America was founded Founded on the ideals that all men were created equal and they weren't back then but hold on hold on Let me make a point all right We got to the point where a civil war okay?

In the Civil War Do you know who died who died the most to free the slaves probably white people fucking right bro my house I didn't even get a cookie for that No, it was fighting to keep them though. It was a lot of black people not only that hold on wait I'll make a point I Live when you come to my you haven't been in my house. Yeah, we're gonna go after where I live For you. Yeah, you listen s grant used to have a house there. Okay, you listen s grant was white He was 18th president United States

The reason that he became president United States was because during the Civil War he was literally one of the generals who went to the fucking plantations and killed the slave owners himself And freed the slaves all right, and he started the party called the radical Republicans Okay, the Republican Party has been anti slavery and anti fucking segregation Forever okay all right That was the whole premise of the fucking party when when this Okay, all right That was the whole premise of the fucking party when When this happened in the Civil War and

Hundreds of thousands of fucking how many people died in the Civil War no shit time look it up you got computer millions And they were mostly white okay. Where does that? Fight where do we forget about that that that happened? No, it just doesn't change the fact that it's still once the Civil War ended It wasn't like racism and it or that like racism will never in well It wasn't like things were equal 120,000. Okay, six hundred twenty thousand fucking mostly white people That is never talked about it's never acknowledged. It's never it's I think it's acknowledged Knowledge like yeah, I think that you might acknowledge it but it's not okay it's never it's I think it's acknowledged like I mean now it's not knowledge like yeah I think that you might acknowledge

it but it's not okay that's a good point but also my point so this leads into the question I ask of what the expiration date is and where where the okay so I asked you this question of well how long do you think since that Civil War ended things became equal when did become equal? I don't think things are equal. Okay I'm saying you didn't finish what I'm saying, but like super unequal. No, no, no Things aren't equal. They're never going to be equal. That's a foul fucking ever for anybody ever there I have a lot of white friends who were fucking, who came in way better situations. I have a lot of white friends that I was born into a better

situation. Same for you. Do you have black friends that were born better? Do you have black friends that were born worse? Okay. So the idea, the whole idea that there will ever be equal outcome is fucking not real. Yeah, I agree. But we're going to try to make things fair. Okay. We do as a leader. Okay.

Like I agree with that. Yeah, that's what we should. We should be fair. Yeah. And fair is hard to decide. Hold on, is it fair to say that 2025, okay, that we do not have a much better system than we had in 1776?

I completely disagree. You don't think? You would've owned me right now. I wouldn't even be allowed to talk about it. I'm saying the opposite. Oh, like, wait, wait, what? I'm saying in 2025, are we not better, more equal now? What?

No. Fuck, dude. No shit. You think I'm fucking retarded, bro? It's like, what? No. Expect that from DJ. Yeah.

No. I'm saying in 2020, OK, the bottom line of what I'm trying to get at is this. At the end of the day, personal responsibility drives outcome. I agree with that. Okay? And if we continue to tear open this wound

of how unfair it has been, we are victimizing the people today to believe that they cannot be successful. This is a big problem that happens in our schools right now. Little white kids are told, you're racist because you're fucking white. And little black kids are told, you can't do shit because you're fucking black.

What does that do to them over the course of their life? I think that probably happens more at home than there. Maybe, maybe. I get what you're saying. That's what either place is not doing. Yeah, I think we're on the same page. I disagree with that message. I wanna say this, that's my whole piece, right?

I look at the equation for success, right? To me, like- Do you think it's right? Go ahead. Let me say this, because I've been around Andy for five, going on six years. I understand the equation for success, right? And for me and what my family is trying to do

I'm trying to break generational curses you call it all of that for me White privilege black privilege in any of that stuff. It does not go into the equation Period at this point at this point. It's come successful at this six because here's the thing success Does not give a fuck what color you are, where you came from, how hard it was, it doesn't, that's not in that equation. It's not. And so for my daughter, right, I want my daughter to be successful.

I want her to be successful. Am I gonna go to my daughter and say, hey babe, listen, she's in private school. She goes to private school, mom stay at home wife. But guess what, babe? That white privilege that's out there, it's gonna hold you back no matter how hard you try. Like that's not the conversation.

But it comes in this, like, cause I think we all agree there. Like I can't tell my daughter that shit. Let me give you a very- Let me go one, and then I'll come back in there. No one believes in more than that than me. Like I hate a fucking victim story. Like I hate the bitch shit. Yeah, that doesn't work. Like I don't believe in I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even,

I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't privilege that I got into now. I had a choice Well, that's what I said. I said privilege exists. It's not just right, but I have a choice I can go I can donate my million bucks for my boys and girls club to wherever I want So I could have done it and like scripts ranch and Carlsbad, right? Like where it's the really nice predominantly white happens to be predominantly white areas or I could do in the southeast San Diego Where it is minority primarily etc. I chose to go there not because I'm racist because that group needs to be that's the need yeah that's the need that's the need correct and that and so

I just don't that's okay now doesn't make you racist I don't fucking listen 100% yeah this is where I want more conversation or I think you know sometimes this is a great this is great this is great conversation for sure but I just like I like what you said is because that's the need and I think sometimes groups feel like people don't think there's a need and there is a need oh you're saying like they pretend like it's not real yeah well all you got to do is like but see here's the thing so there is a fucking double standard there. All right, because Yes, you go down to fucking downtown st. Louis, bro. I mean there's a fucking knee But I will also take you

20 minutes out this way and we will go to the fucking trailer parks and you would tell me it does not look any different It's just it's just the color of the people and listen and that's and that's why it's like look we need we need help on all sides yeah right but it just I just don't think we can't should be needed at some point in time for us okay well that's going away because everybody's fucking each other there's not gonna be white kids anyway that's a whole different conversation anyway that's a whole different conversation because that is engineered intentionally to eliminate fuck.

Here's the reality, dude. Everybody is going to be mixed. That's real. That's real. But here's another thing. White people, okay, can you say you're proud to be black? Yeah, you can say you're proud to be white too. No, I can't.

No, I can. You can't say white power. Well, first of all, it's not first of all. Let me tell you something there's a difference because I've never been able to socially accepted be socially accepted saying that sure. Okay, Latino people can say Latino pride black people could say black pride white people say white pride. Oh boy. It's a big fucking problem Okay Black pride white people say white pride. Oh boy. It's a big fucking problem. It's the catch up. Okay No, hold on let me make a point

You're winning in life andy you and I are winning my can't say a lot of things because we're winning My people will say I say whatever fuck I want but my point here my point on this is that Because i've never been able to fucking think like that And i've been told that my identity is not in my race Yeah, okay. I don't have race. I don't look at fucking white people and be like, oh, yeah They're like me and I'm fucking proud to be at all Like I don't even think that way. Yeah, and so then culture tells white people they're fucking racist on top of it It's like the fuck you talking about dude, like yeah It's like the fuck you talking about dude like yeah

So there's multiple sides of this equation and here's the bottom line bro if we're going to be what America Says that it should be at some point Okay, if you fall down where we're walking out and you fucking skin your elbow Yeah, and it's bleeding what happens after a day or two? I'm pink. No, no, no. Well, what happens? A fucking scab forms. And if we continue, every time that scab starts

to get better, we peel it the fuck off. It never heals. This is good. Here's my point. My point is this. There has to be, and I don't think that what you said, I really honestly don't, I don't think that what you said, I really honestly don't. I don't think that anything you said is actually wrong.

I don't think anything he said is wrong. And I don't think I said it wrong. He's a perspective. But at some point, the men of this country have to stop tearing the wound open so that it can fucking heal. And that's the truth. The men of this country have to stop tearing the wound open so that it can fucking heal. And that's the truth. So question, hold on, let me ask you both this, because this is a question for both of you.

Now, with that insight and thinking about what you said earlier, which I agree with the government, it's like, yo, we need to get rid of all that shit. And Trump comes in and he's like, let's fucking delete it all because it's bullshit. Would you be opposed because of it is time to move forward? If Trump comes out and he goes, you know what? It is time to move forward.

There was some fucked up shit in the country. It was this idea to make America great, but it was just for white men. But we all know that it needs to be for every man, every woman, doesn't matter your fucking color. And he rips up the constitution and he burns the fucking flag and starts a brand new one. I don't think that's, yes, I would be opposed to that.

Yeah, I'd be opposed to that. I'm curious though. Here's why, here's why. Could you understand why I wouldn't be super excited about the flag though? No. Not at this point. But here's what I will say, Billy.

Here's what I will say. And bro, you know, I love you dude like and I actually really appreciate that you have your opinions and actually Back them up with a fucking argument and not just say stupid. I Believe That the idea of Like when I say hey, man, I'm a fucking patriot, I am not saying that I am a fucking fan of the way shit is now.

What I'm saying is, I'm a fan of the way that it was designed to be. And America has never lived up, this is what I think needs to be said. America has never lived up to what it was designed to be from the start. And if we actually to what it was designed to be from the start and if we Actually took what it was designed to be from the start and actually applied that Right now. Yeah, we're fine. We'd have the best fucking thing ever

I agree So I asked Rick of just saying how is designed to be for all people because it wasn't designed to be for all people If it was designed to be for all people that I'm with that no no no you know back then it said all Men are created equal they did not but your votes three-fifths. I understand this Yeah, I understand this what I'm saying is if you took the same document And you apply it today, and you actually fucking lived by that we'd have the perfect fucking country The problem is just like many, that there was a business plan that nobody fucking followed the right way. Okay? So I would not, I think

that the answer is not, okay if we have a problem in business, right, let's say you and our business partners and we make this plan and we say fuck the business isn't working. Well what's the first thing we should should do we should look and see if we're following the fucking plan we haven't followed the plan we don't just tear up the plan yeah we audit ourselves are we following the system okay and the audit of America over the course of the last 200 years is in my opinion that while it has gotten better we have never actually lived to the system that was designed to be and so I think That if we actually started applying what it was supposed to be in reality

The way all men are created equal and all of these other things I think we end up with the perfect product We just have a bunch of people as you said who have gotten into power and utilized it for their own benefit Yeah, and I do think that it would be I think it's very important to acknowledge that there has been massive amounts of progress That have happened over the course of this time and we are much closer to what it should be at this point Culturally yeah But I believe that we are much further away from a leadership standpoint where these guys have started to create a system that Pretends to be free that actually isn't free and I really think that we would all do ourselves a

Service at you as a black man me as a not white man, but a white man, okay? To lead people to unity so that we can understand that it's not us that's fucking it up for each other It's those motherfuckers up there that are constantly telling us You're this you're that and then while the same time we're fighting. They're stealing our fucking money, bro. They're stealing it all I think that's so so I don't think that the answer is to tear it up But I would tell you from a simple I think the answer is to take the fucking tyrants and put tell you from a simple as I think the answer, I think the answer is to take the fucking

tyrants and put their fucking heads on some fucking stakes and make sure that no one ever does that shit again. That's what I think. Yeah, I think that's well put. And I. I just think as a. You have sensitivities about it.

Yeah, well, no, but you got to understand, I do, too, because there's flip sides to it. Yeah, I think. I mean, yeah, slip sides to it. Yeah, I think I mean yeah for sure right like I mean I Think but none of that shit identify. I did some identity. No, it's not my look It's not yours either stop me. Yeah, what I want to do. I just think like for America to be Unified right if we are cuz you're bringing up a good point of like when does it in when does it stop? to be unified, right? And if we are, because you're bringing up a good point of like,

when does it end? When does it stop? To me, I think we end those docs, in those processes and create a new one. Like, I think that's how it would end. It's like, hey, this is kind of a symbol of that. Well, could you make a better system than that one? It was on... I mean, maybe we rewrite it in different words,

just a sign of symbolism of like, yo, we're acknowledging that this was... Shit is kind of fucked and moving forward. I bring this up because I come back full circle with you know, like I had a friend of mine and she was really Taking back it like now mind you I pledge allegiance and I stand up for the flag but also and the same stand I can respect somebody who doesn't if you look at the history and See what everything that would happen like it wouldn't make sense for them to stand. And so I just think it would be ideas or maybe those stand and there's just a new additional doc, like a new declaration. I think it,

the whole thing is fucked and we do need new, but I see a lot of backlash when people don't just bend the knee to the old documents, the old constitution, all these things that were written at it Why do you think that is? Because they're protecting their own Well, do you think it could be something else like for example like I don't know like my grandfather being killed After in World War two after fighting on fucking D-Day and never meeting my dad Yeah, I mean you do you think do you think that that's do you think that you know me growing up without a grandfather and my dad

growing up without a dad would in the name of Fucking what this country's supposed to be would make me feel a certain way when people don't stand for the flag 100% but you just like that that same passion you can also see how somebody else's dad and grandpa was killed because of it. And I think that's the hard part is it's both sides, you're not wrong. Neither is John Doe, who's, you know, or my ancestors who were killed because we're not wrong.

I just think we're here. And I'm just a fan of everybody kind of understanding everybody's perspective. Like I would hope that the comment here is I Think this is a healthy conversation both sides had really good perspectives. Let's grow together But you're not you're gonna have comments and someone's gonna be like they're super fucking far right and they're racist No, and he's a little hard are people no no no right? I don't think no no no our people are very centered I hope people can see that we're all on the same course

That's my biggest point, but I think I think what it comes down to we talk about exploration of it The problems that we have in this country. They're not black problems. They're not white problems They're American problems and I think the moment that Americans start realizing Hey, we're all on the same fucking team here, and start looking at all of our separate needs and stop looking at them as separate needs. No, like the poverty that's in fucking downtown St. Louis, that's all our problems.

The poverty that's out in fucking South County. That's the most unified you've sounded. Well, I mean, but listen,, but like that is my belief. You know what I'm saying? I think the problem is like when we constantly try to, oh, well this is a black issue. Oh, well they got their white privilege, this is a white issue.

No, bro, like the moment we can all address it together and like, hey, these are all of our problems. We have to solve all of these problems. That's when we move past the exploration. Dude, I agree with that. That's when we actually make progress. But you can't call people racist for pointing out the fucking problem. That's what I'm saying. But again, we, if we all own,

well then with Andy, with that, just, they need to state the whole problem, right? Like I think state the problem. Cause you're right. The data is the data at this point, but to anyone's going to be sensitive. Well, I don't think people like hearing the truth about the whole problem, but anyone's going to be sensitive about the problem. If you don't say the how and why. So for example, if you walked into me and let's just say I punched my boy Paul,

and you're like, well, you guys just punched et cetera, and I didn't tell you, yo, he just literally killed three people in the other room, you'd be like, I'd be so fucking mad because I'd be like, you didn't understand why. Like, there needs to be acknowledgement of why. Listen, dude, I don't buy, I don't buy, listen here, I don't buy into the black community being statistically

ultraviolent compared to the white community for what happened fucking 300 years ago. I don't buy into that. Yeah, it's economics. It's economics, right? Well, I know. I don't think it is. I think it's fucking, I think it's, I think it's.

It's low income places. Is it? Hold on, is it? It is. No think it's it's low low-income places Hold on is it no, it's not because the murder rate is not the same in white-povered places It's not the same. Yeah, and the thing is I think that's the other thing and then we'll say well Where it's the culture this and rap music well, no, it's not because lots of white people listen to fucking what do you think? It is I fucking don't know but I think we need to figure it the fuck out and that's the thing It's like I think you know specifically like black community, but like we have an accountability issue. I think it is I fucking don't know but I think we need to figure it the fuck out and that's the thing It's like I think you know specifically like black community, but like we have an accountability issue I think so too. I think that's the biggest thing. It's like, you know when little Tyrone kills little JJ It's okay. We'll put up make make the t-shirt. Also who says that what do you mean?

Who says it's okay and like I think they don't say it's okay They act like it doesn't exist. But we don't call it out We don't know bill. Here's an example like it doesn't exist. But I think most people agree with that. But we don't call it out. We don't call it out. Billy, here's an example, bro. I was a police officer, right? Like I've seen death, I've seen murders, right? You know, like when little JJ gets killed in the block, right, and you go knocking on doors,

anybody see anything? No, he see shit. Yeah. Right, like that's a problem. I agree. That's a problem. And I think we have a massive accountability issue within the black culture, bro.

And it's like, it's a tough thing because nobody wants to talk. Well, I can tell you What's the big difference? I think that's fair. That's a real point to say Because dude in my and in white culture if some fucking like in my family Do Johnny does some dumb? That guy's a fucking idiot Johnny do some guy He's right down deserves me in prison Everything you guys just said there is okay. It's just when you do that and then also not acknowledge white privilege, it just, it's harder to hear.

But what does white privilege have to do? It doesn't, but my point is, I just said I'm not putting those two things together. What's the hardest thing to hear? But what I'm saying is though, just from listeners being leaders with voices, et cetera, when one side is just saying one thing, that's where the labels come.

That's where people go, oh, DJ is racist or he's being an Uncle Tom, is because you just gotta say both sides. Because then if you can say both sides, then you go, he's right, there is accountability. Just like if you're sitting two people down and if you only say the one thing old boy does, this person is gonna feel the type of way.

So I think it's just continue the conversation like we're having here. It's all sides. I think everybody has to be held the same standard. That's it. No, like we can't have special state When we started making special standards for some people and other people then we create resentment which creates more bias So if we're gonna fix it, everybody has to be held the same standard. Everybody has to be just held to the standard of Their own personal actions and we have to say what happened fucking back then it That's not what caused you like right now. Okay, let's take it away from race. Yeah. Okay, let's take it to another

There's another thing that's happening now. That's very similar This person killed four people because he had depression or he had met I don't give a fuck I don't give a fuck if you were depressed I don't care that you were having gender dysmorphia You kill four motherfuckers you go to jail like that's it And so like dude now we just covered this on the show last week some dude What was the example with the mental health? the oh shit

This guy killed somebody or did something and he was like, Oh, he was suffering. They released this guy. So yeah, the fucking he bombed the fucking Tesla place. Yeah. So there's a guy white dude, right? Yeah. Why did white kid bombing? I knew. Yeah, that's right. That's fair. That's fair. This is the way it should be handled, man. That's fair. That's fair. See, this is the way it should be handled, bro. That's fucking fair. So, anyway, this fucking white dude fucking bombs a Tesla, and then he gets let out because he claims that he's having mental health problems. That's bullshit. Yeah, that's bullshit. I don't think you should be able to use any kind of excuse or anything.

Yes. Look, I'm on the other side.'t think you should be able to use any kind of excuse anything like I'm like I'm on the other side. I think there should be harsh punishments for stupid bro I think we should go to fucking I think we should be cutting people's hands off putting them in the fucking woodchipper Is I actually believe that yeah, cuz it was stop it it would stop it it literally like Really it would stop it. It's like it's like Singapore you hear like oh if you put how many times I talk about Singapore Yeah, I'm like let me tell you when I think about going to Singapore the only thing I know I'm not touching fucking gum Yeah, I'm not even gonna do it. Yeah, cuz they're fucking poor You're dumb don't pull your pants down in public and beat your ass

In front of everybody. Yeah, I'm actually yeah, so so let's start doing that and we'll fix all the problems facts Yeah, cut heads off hands off. I don't disagree came And we'll fix all the problems facts. Yeah, head's off hands off. I don't disagree Kane Embarrassed shame fixes a lot of things. So the bottom line the bottom line is here's the reality I Don't think you're wrong. I don't think I'm wrong either I think we fucking but I don't think that these things are within our control other than what the example is that we set now Fall I think his leaders is a good conversation to have yeah I think it's like if someone a good conversation to have. Yeah. I think it's like if someone took away

just one additional perspective on all sides, cool. I think that helps, right? Oh, dude, look, man. I'm still going to make fun of you. Yeah, same. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah, I will get my tap dancing shoes.

Yeah. I mean, he gets it the worst, bro, because like, you know, the Uncle Tom shit. Yeah, yeah. But like, it's- Yeah, honestly, how does that make you feel? Because that's pretty, I mean, do it, you know, the Uncle Tom shit. But like, it's- Honestly, how does that make you feel? Cause that's pretty, I mean, I've been on that wagon for like five years now, because again, like, you know, most people, they try to, they don't know my past, bro.

They don't know that I taught in inner city schools. They don't know that I've coached youth. I've sat on the board of directors for- You know this hell, but done a lot of shit, DJ. I've done a lot, but like, they don't see that. They don't see that. And I think like the truth of the matter is, bro- And it's all good shit. Like the truth of directors. You know this hell, but done a lot of shit, DJ. I've done a lot. I've done a lot, but they don't see that. They don't see that. And I think the truth of the matter is, bro. And it's all good shit.

It's all good shit, yeah, for sure. I don't think you could find somebody that cares more about the black community. I care, but I care a fucking shit-toe, right? And I think when it comes down to it, again, that's the end goal. And we may get there differently, but the end goal is there's some things

we gotta fucking fix. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know what I'm sayin'? And not addressin' them ain't gonna fix them. Or just blamin' the other side ain't gonna fix it. Like there's problems that we have to fuckin' address. And I want the best for everybody. You know what I'm sayin'? And I don't look at shit uniquely,

I don't think it's uniquely these problems or these people problem. No, bro, we all gotta fix it, man. Yeah, I think the best thing that anybody can do if you are experiencing Any kind of racism prejudice? Whatever is just move on and get rich That's really successful. No shit, bro. Make the change that you want to see Yeah, it's like you know what I don't like is there's this whole saying that you guys see every single election year

And it's this it's vote everybody says get out and vote the truth is fucking run you really want change run The only the only you know, it's like like the or our stations vote and then they give the more orange juice or apple juice Or like that's not a choice or do what the Constitution says that we should do Over there and have a duty to do is to overthrow tyrannical government. Okay that too. That's a fact No, listen, we have failed our That too. That's a fact. No, listen, we have failed. Our American people have failed their responsibility to keep the government in check.

Period. That's it. Yeah. And whether that is, however that needs to be solved, it needs to be solved. And you know, that's why I'm on the fucking list, because I will openly say that. It says in our fucking preamble, it says that we as American citizens have a responsibility to keep our government in fucking check we also have a responsibility to overthrow them if they get to we haven't our fathers and the people before them have allowed

these people to rape and pillage us financially enslave us financially and make it hard for all of us and now what they're doing is they're telling the public school policy, they have started to start the division at fucking two years old. When I was in preschool and grade school, at least they told us like, Hey, uh, you guys are all the same. They don't tell them that anymore. You know what I'm saying? And like dude, I'm just so sick Like dude, how hard do you work?

You work hard as fuck. How is it? Okay for them to take more than half of your money and then fuck and then Okay, that's not okay, man Taking you know, that's supposed to be going to need how much motherfucking money give more how much that's what I'm saying Well, how much more money would you like it? So and then they use it against the they make everybody hate people like me and you because they say well All they're gonna do is keep the money That's actually that's actually makes no sense because if you were to say that the reason that That I'm successful is because I'm greedy and you were to say we tax him because if he's greedy

He's just gonna make more money. Well to make more fucking money. I had to create more jobs dumb fuck Okay, so I actually have to do more good the greed and capitalism if you actually fucking believe that Actually is what creates the fucking economy. So like It's either one or the other. What's sad about what you're saying is you're correct, but because people won't be in our shoes. They don't get it. They're never gonna get it.

Yeah, I know. It's almost like, okay, that's why we'll live our lives in the US. But my point is, is that they intentionally stoke that fire so they don't fucking figure it out. The bottom line is this, bro. We are at a place in time where. I don't know.

I mean, I, I feel like, I don't know. I personally feel responsible to at least try to fix what the fuck's going on. Now, the only way I know how to do that is by changing the culture. And I'm a pretty good culture guy. Would you ever run for office? No, I don't think so because the truth of the matter is, is that I believe that my strength is in developing culture. And I think that if we can get people to understand that if they become excellent and they Become wealthy and they become healthy and they become good people and intelligent people that by default creates a cultural

Revolution and if the cultural revolution demands that You have to rise the government will fucking fall in line. So politics is downstream from culture. So my answer to that is I feel like I can do more good here than I can there. I mean if you look at Trump, Trump is getting blocked and this or that, you know, and like same thing when whoever's in office, they deal with, there's no way to get anything done. And the only way we as American citizens can fix anything is by taking responsibility for our own lives our own wealth our own thoughts You know and do everything the opposite of what they want us to do because everything that they want us to do is for the

benefit of them and not for the benefit of us I have a Tag man that I like to always say and this is to the benefit of them and not for the benefit of us. I have a tagline that I like to always say, and this is to the world, I don't care what color you are, and that is get off your fucking knees. And what I mean by that is one thing I'll never do is beg for anybody's approval, beg for anything. And what I see, like, just take a big example, like, you know, the fucking Oscars or shit like this,

you see people up in arms, they didn't give us a Grammy, they didn't give us an Oscar. They didn't give us an Oscar Go make your own motherfucking Oscar. I don't like that Fucking fucking better like yeah like get better But like also like you don't need the approval for fucking anyone anything go make it if you want something go make it like literally Go fucking make it you live by that. I live by that too bro like I like you know me times I've been told no you know what times times I've been told no you know how many times I've been told I'm fucking stupid you know how many times

I told I was never gonna be able to do any of the shit that I've done I don't fuck like that's normal for me like I don't Watch me huh watch me yeah Like what the fuck like that's because they see you do it and they know you and they grew up with you And if they know that Andy could do it that they can do it too. They have to deal with the harsh truth Yeah, well, I mean look man. It's real man at the end of the day You know, we're always gonna have problems and and I think that The men of our generation have an obligation

This is my view, to stop tearing open the fucking wounds that they want us to talk about and fight about and start getting everything fucking aligned so that we can't be taken advantage of as a whole. And I think the more that we argue about race while in discussing and discussing and arguing are two different things. When there can be reasonable conversation, and it'd be no different than talking about fucking the sports game.

This could've happened, or that could've happened. All we can deal with is what the fuck is. And what is, is that for us to ever have our country back, people that look like you and people that look like me are gonna have to figure out how to get along. Because the number one way that we are taking advantage of is Along that line. I agree that through that line. Everything else is accomplished. Yeah, that's right But the minute that white culture and black culture start to get I know you all say we don't have a culture, but we do

All right, but the minute So so the minute though that we all get along and figure out that it's them causing this shit, they are fucking done. And dude, that's why I care so much about the conversation. I hate race baiters. I hate antagonistic people along those lines that Consistently tear that wound open so that it can never we they do that so that we never fucking figure out How bad they are taking advantage of us give them a greater enemy, right? That's right So anyway, this has been great convo. Yeah, we're gonna have to wrap it up here

310 yeah, no shit. Yeah, that's the longest show we've had had Oh, yeah, it was good though. I feel like yeah fucking right bro is awesome Horton. Yeah, bro. Listen, we are gonna What well, we're just finish it up lady work learn AI. Yeah, get rich change the world. Yeah, don't be racist Yeah, it's healthy racist. Yeah, but make racist jokes. That's that's correct I think that is the racist jokes heal best. Yes. Yeah for sure. That's correct. I think that is the form of- Racist jokes heal. They're the best. They're the best. Yes. Yeah, for sure. That's it, man. But yeah, so let's wrap it up with a final segment of the show, guys.

As always, thumbs up to Dumb as Fuck. We bring a headline in, we talk about it, it'll get one of those two options. So with that being said, a thumbs up or Dumb as Fuck headline reads, going viral, woman arrested after police find pet raccoon in driver's seat with crack pipe in its mouth during traffic stop

All right, let's have a racist guess here. So why the black hold on Why do black that's a better game rack raccoon with a crack pipe. I mean that sound the raccoon says white crack says black mixed White, crack says black, mixed. That's your people, DJ. No, this was white girl dating a black guy. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

All right, all right. Well, that's actually pretty good. Pretty good guess. That's solid. All right, but is she a big in or a little in? Is she what? She big. She definitely big.

Yeah, a lot of ass. All right, well, let's dive into it. A lot of ass. An right, well let's dive into it. A lot of ass. An Ohio woman was arrested after police in Springfield Township found a raccoon with a crack pipe in its mouth during a traffic stop. 55-year-old Victoria Vidal of Akron, Ohio was arrested on Monday and charged

with F3 possession of drugs, three counts of possession of drug paraphernalia, ABC News reported. The police officer was in absolute disbelief as he discovered a pet raccoon named Chewie holding the meth pipe. With Tyrone in the passenger seat. Let's check this clip out.

Hello. The raccoon has her meth pipe. As what? Oh my God. Her meth pipe. No. He's playing with the meth pipe right now. No, don't reach for it. That's evidence now. I don't want him to have it. Well, that's why I'm gonna do it. Hey buddy. Huh? It's okay. Is that the lady there? Okay, you're on a beer in two minutes. She's only 55? That's meth, bro. Yeah! This isn't what she's smoking meth in. Okay. The raccoons play with her meth pipe.

She's mad about it. Oh, there's no one. He's trying to smoke it! Alright. Thanks. There's no one! Alright, alright, enough fun and in games you're going to jail Holy shit, she was white, but she didn't have ass We all missed Like that raccoon shot take a trip

Bro that lady's only 55. That lady looks 155. More. Drugs bad, don't do drugs. Fuck. Drugs are bad. If you do do drugs, don't do meth. She's talking about the raccoon. What we got on this thumbs up, dumb as fuck, what we got?

I got, you know. Dumb as fuck. Yeah, yeah. I think it's thumbs up on the cop, he was having a good time. That's true, yeah. I mean bro, I couldn't imagine saying up on the cop he was having a good time I mean well, I couldn't imagine saying that like seeing that in person like there's a raccoon I mean, how did the raccoon get the car? That means this is our pet raccoon. She let the raccoon into the car like oh hi

It is something they regularly do the way the raccoons are going back for it. It is Ohio. All right thumbs up, bro We have you ever seen like this. Have have you guys got raccoons out there? Yeah, we have raccoons here. Bro, we got big ones here, bro. Like, they can let themselves- They fight. They're like violet. Yeah, they can let themselves into a door.

Like, they can open doors and shit. Oh, see, ours aren't trained like that. We ain't there yet. All right. Thumbs up. All right. Well, guys, Andy, Billy, that's all I got. Hey, bro.

Thanks for coming out, man. Fucking great show. Yeah. I mean, this is good. I mean, it's important. Yeah. I like, you know, for me, it's important. I. Hey, bro. Thanks for coming out man I mean, this is good. I mean, it's a it's important. Yeah, I like you know fun fact This is probably Paul the only second podcast I've done this year I've been just on a no tear but uh, the reason why I did it is because one I think 75 art is so fucking important

It was so You know Impactful for me just get my shit back in the game and just what it's doing for people You know, you know what I did is I went in the Facebook group and it was actually the most powerful thing for me so I went in the Facebook group and My motivation to do it is to see everybody starting and you know day one everyone's complaining and like the first week Oh, what can I do and I'm like, oh oh my god I don't want to be that yeah, no shit literally was my biggest motivation Yeah, and then you see the transformation day 25. They're like I was such a bitch. Yeah. Yeah that I was like, yeah

Why it's you know, do I have to do this? Why can't I just do it this way? Motherfucker you can't even understand. That's the whole reason you are where the fuck you are. Yes Fucking make it easier. No shit. That's what you reason you are where the fuck you are. Yes. Oh, you fucking make it easier. No shit That's what you did your whole life bitch Yeah, so it felt that it felt like man This is important and then and then secondly just like knowing your message for years like this It's a it's a positive one, you know, well, I think it's important bro. I appreciate you man No, it's fucking awesome dude. Like you if you live closer, I'd have you on the show every fucking day

I have you if you live closer, I'd have you on the show every fucking day We're coming back for that party, now my jewelry box froze Fuck a boat, fuck a stove, counted millions in a coat Bad bitch, booted, swole, got her on bankroll Can't fold, dust her, no, head shot, case closed