REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 922. Andy, Tim Grover & DJ CTI: DC Residents Heckle Authorities At Checkpoint, Losing Brain Cells & Three WNBA Players Ejected After Sun-Sky Scrap

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

On today’s episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by Tim Grover. They discuss the true price of becoming a winner, what it takes mentally, physically, and emotionally to separate yourself from the pack and dominate at the highest level. They also cover DC residents heckling authorities at a federal checkpoint amid ramped-up government presence, and the WNBA clash that saw three players ejected after a heated Sun-Sky brawl.

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Just a no headshot case closed. Close. What is up guys? It's Andy Purcell and this is the show for the realists. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society. And welcome the motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have Andy and DJ Cruz is the motherfucking internet.

That's what we're going to do. And then we got a plus one to you. Mr. Tim Grover. Neo! What's up, man? Everything is excellent. I'm at one of my favorite places. We're one of my favorite human beings.

That's mutual. Yeah. That's mutual. You guys don't know, Tim is one of the greatest performance coaches ever, both mental and physical. He has coached a number of the legendary athletes that you guys know of, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan.

You've seen the last dance, you've seen Tim, he's in there. Duane Wade, I mean, all kinds of guys. I've done some stuff with our buddy Bryce up there in Philadelphia. Yeah, we've done, we've added a couple, you know. We've added Max Crosby from the Las Vegas Raiders. Stud. Yes. Dung.

Yes. Paul Skeins from the Pittsburgh Pirates. Also, stuck. Yes. The best of the best. No. That's who goes to Tim. The best of the best.

And I just so happen to be a very fortunate man to get to call to him and have a good friendship with him. And he helps me out as well. We help each other out. That's what's about. There's no what's awesome about our relationship and the relationship with First Form and all the clients, it's never a one-way street.

It's never one-way street. That might be a lie. He might be lying a little bit. No, no, not, not, not at all. You know, I can call you for anything. You know you can call me for anything. It's like I've always said, you know, if I needed a car and say, Andy, he'd send me anything like that.

Yeah, whatever, whatever I want. I just say pick, pick one and literally it would be at my door the next day. No questions asked. That's a fact. Yeah. But DJ wouldn't be driving it there. They wouldn't make it. I thought you said DJ was coming.

Yeah. So what's been going on, man? Everything is excellent, man. is excellent taking care of my health getting into some new ventures and you know i wanted to really expand this relationship that we have we um you can not really find too many everyone talks about being like minded and there's very few individuals that are actually like minded you know what i think about us is our minds are like beautifully haunted yeah like That's a nice way to say it.

There's a nice, yeah. You know, they're beautifully haunted, but we've gone through some stuff. Yeah. We've gone through some stuff, you know, and I tell everybody, everybody talks about their dreams, all the other stuff. It's just like how you get to this point is how you deal with your nightmares. both you and I have dealt with some, we dealt with some nightmares. Yeah, man.

And continue to deal with them. Yeah. You know, everybody, before you can daydream, before you can daydream, you got to deal with the nightmares that visit you at night. Yep. Yep. Dude, I was thinking about this.

You know, um, when I first met Tim, you guys don't know the backstory. We got a lot of new listeners. I don't think I know how you guys met. Yeah. So,

so, dude, I when my business well when our business um around 2012 13 14 we started doing very well and it became like overwhelming to go from how hard we were struggling to how well we were doing and that sounds like a great thing except when you don't know what the fuck you're doing it's super hard and And I was having a really hard time relating to people, man. Like my whole life, I've been so competitive and wanted to win so bad. And I just feel and I still feel this way. Yeah, not wanting to still does.

Yeah. It doesn't go away. No, it's in your fucking blood. It doesn't go. If you don't believe me, if you ever get a chance to come to headquarters, just ask for pops. Yeah. I mean, everything here is the. competition. And it's like when I was going through that time, I didn't have anybody

to fucking talk to, bro. Like, I didn't have anybody that really understood how hungry and how bad and how desperate I was to win. And when you talk to people and you're built like that, you feel fucking crazy, dude. And then what happens is, is over the course of time, when you've spent years and years and years and years like that, you start to feel like you're the one that's totally fucked and everybody else is normal because just like a lot of people I said on today's real talk, most people never really meet someone who is actually a top level performer or anything. They go their whole life and they never, ever, ever actually meet that person. And when you're when you're wired,

that way you feel the same way but the other way you go your whole life and you don't meet anybody that thinks like you that doesn't think you're crazy that doesn't think you're fucked up that doesn't think you're too intense and dude it's a super lonely thing super lonely and I picked up this book uh because you guys know I'm a big reader I picked up this book called Relentless. I had, I did not know Tim. I had never met him.

I didn't know much about him. I knew I knew you coached Michael Jordan. That's what I knew. And I picked up the book. I read the book. And it changed my fucking life, dude. I mean, the way the book categorizes achievement and achievers

and their mentalities into basically, you know, four different categories. I mean, there's three, but the fourth one is you're fucking irrelevant. Right. but you know I read all this and I was like oh this makes sense got it the guys

the guys who are doing shit are doing shit because they have this different quality about them and this different way of living and that kind of gave me permission to like be me and it was super fucking important in my life and I've I said this the first time I had Tim on I always say this dude i was going through such a dark time at that time because dude when you feel like you're all alone like that you start to think like what the fuck is the point of this like i'm i'm all alone i'm i'm fucking crazy nobody sees what i'm going through nobody gets it everybody tells me i'm too intense or insane or you all these things and none of them are good and when you start to like realize oh you're not the only one that makes you feel better but when you do feel like you're

the only one you're like what the fuck is the point of this like what what am i doing and um you know real talk that book that book i say it and i tell everybody this i mean that book saved my life i wouldn't sell that book for a hundred fucking million dollars that their original book that i might sell for a hundred but i wouldn't sell i'd get you another one trust me yeah and i will bend all the pages i'll sweat on them do whatever you need to do it we'll split it all right but like dude it's it's just such a it was such an important realization in my life and then fast forward a year or two later um we both were speaking at the original 10x yes standing next to each other literally so i'm looking if i'm like oh this is what happened so when i'm posting the book or when i read the book i

posted it and and he started getting all these tags and shit and the book started moving and uh And then, you know, a couple years later, we went to, we both got, uh, hired to speak at 10X. And he's standing like one row in front of me. And I'm like, holy fuck, there's fucking Tim Grover and he looks back of me. He's like, Andy, because he recognized me from social. Yeah. And then dude, you know. That's always a weird thing too, like when you meet those people in person.

It wasn't weird when we met. It was like we knew each other a whole life. Yes. Instantly. Yeah, it was fucking cool, man. And we've been friends since. That was probably 2014 or 15 at Grant's thing. And the thing that you say, the reason the like-minded individuals

attract like-minded individuals. You know, it's funny, people that never pay the price are the ones that scream the loudest. And the ones that pay the price are the ones that live in silence. Yeah. Yeah, man. Because when you scream, nobody hears you. literally nobody's around to hear you because they're not they don't they don't understand

I got this thing that I talk about and everything that you've gone through everything that you're going through at the highest level people don't understand when you go from everything you've worked towards and all of a sudden it just happens and there's a whole level that winning brings that people just don't understand because they've never been at that they've never been at that level all they see all the insulary things that come in your life yes all they just see the balloons the confetti the money the car they they have they have literally no idea and i literally call it the trauma of winning yeah well it's real shit i can tell you that your life changes yes i mean the way people see you changes the way people treat you changes and usually

in a meaningful way, it's not that great. You go from being a, you go from being a human being to being a solution of problems. Yeah. To being a resource. Lily, everybody's pulling at you. They're literally pulling at you. You become a resource for everything.

Need money. Need product. Need this. Need that. Can you help me with this? Can you help me with that? You literally become the resource. And then you're still trying to find some peace among yourself while everybody else.

is taking pieces and your piece from you. Yeah. Dude, I still would, I would still rather be this way than be broke and irrelevant. I mean, you're trading boring shit. No pressure. Yeah.

No relevance. Fuck. Dude, that's the truth. No pressure, no relevancy. That's it. Everybody, you go through all these, you go through all these pressure situations of building a, life, building a business, everything you want to become real. You don't want to, you don't want to

be relevant. And there's a lot of people that choose not to be, not to be relevant. There's no pressure in anybody's life critiquing and criticizing everybody, everybody else. You know what's interesting as you say that? I'm sitting here thinking about like that, whether you choose whichever path you choose, because it is a choice. whatever you end up getting like for me like for okay for someone who's never like acted on their ambitions or dreams right that first day that second day that third day fucking kills them dude it's totally out of like their their routine right they're used to like just cruising no pressure no big deal but then you take someone who's acclimated to the

pressure and you try to make them sit on the fucking couch for a day and it's equally as difficult People just don't believe that. And it's crazy to think about, like, I've been thinking, you know, I knew you were coming on. I just kind of been thinking about different aspects of winning that nobody really talks about. And one of the things that nobody ever fucking talks about is, you know that saying, like, it's one thing to get to the top,

it's another thing to stay there, right? Like, I started thinking about that. And I always thought, Yeah, but, you know, it's probably just, that's probably something people say when they won a lot. And I started like breaking it down. And what it really means, dude, and like what we really have to understand is that when you win, because we are all in a competition, whether it's business, whether it's personal, whether it's at your job, whether it's with yourself. But at the end of the day, the bar we set. by winning is always going to be pursued by other people.

Okay, let's take business for example. We win, we do good, our company wins, we become the best in the industry. Now we've set a new bar. And that bar becomes the mark that everybody else is trying to surpass, all right? But here's the thing. Most companies will look around and they will say,

oh, well, we're fucking this company. We deserve to win. No, you don't. And you don't deserve it. You don't deserve anything, okay? Because what happens is these companies come in and they win, you know, let's say 20% more than that bar that you already set, which means that you have to exceed their target when they're trying to beat you. So like if they're coming in at 20%, you got to come in at 22%. And that 22% is 22% above the best fucking effort you could have ever given in your entire life where you bled.

you sweat, you cried, you stressed, you fucking went crazy. And now you got to do more. Still got to do more. Bro. And that's a game nobody talks about. They don't understand that. Like, that's why so many people cannot, they only have so much. Now, there is people who perpetually win their whole lives.

But they're so fucking rare because, dude, it's exhausting. It is. It's fucking exhaust. Even if you're wired for it, even if you're built for it, it's fucking exhausting. like you imagine setting the bar and then every year having to figure out how to fucking do better than that when that was your best and then you're only a year down the road it's not like you're 10 years down the road there's a big difference between me now and me 10 years ago or me even four years ago but me last year that's a little difference and you're expected to produce a big result and it's fucking hard dude and that's something people don't understand because to be financially successful in life and to win you have to win for a long time one year is not going to cut it no so it has to become who the fuck you are and a problem that i see and i would like to hear your your take on this the problem i see in society is like society has become so mediocre and so soft and so

fucking weak that they take people who are built to win and create and and become and set the bar for society and they make them think there's something fucking wrong with them they tell them they're crazy. They tell them they work too hard. They tell them they're out of balance. Well, guess what? Motherfuckers, these are the people that create the world for you to live in.

You know what I'm saying? So why not just let them fucking do their thing instead of criticizing them and say, thank you for making the world a better place for me to live in? Like these things nobody ever thinks about, bro. You know what I'm saying? And dude, when we think about like, like the cost to do that. that and live that way it's it's fucking substantial it's a real thing and it's interesting how everybody around thinks that they're going to live this big life this crazy life you know we got

all these knuckle heads out here telling everybody they're going to be rich in a week and and people just aren't prepared for the fucking journey bro they're not built for it and I try to tell people that and they're like you're discouraging me if that discourages you bro you don't have what it takes you got it that's it because if you you really had what it takes, nothing would discourage you. Right. I'm just trying to prepare people who aren't built for it to not waste their lives in something that they're not, like, bro, I'm not playing in the NBA.

Like, I would appreciate it if Tim, if I went out and fucking tried to be in the NBA, if Tim pulled me aside and said, come here. The same for you. Andy, my boy. You know how many of my clients that had came through my facility when I was heavily involved in training, I would pull them aside and say, listen, you're not. good enough and and they were not they would not believe me I said to say listen I'm telling you the truth you are not good enough I said you can make some money

overseas you can make some money in the developmentally but I said you are not and then somebody else would pull that individual and say oh Grover doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and they would take them they go work out somewhere else they go train somewhere somewhere else ten years later I'd run into him and they'll be come up to me and says you're the only person that told me the truth You're the only person that told me the truth. You know, it's going back to what you said, making it to the top is not the same as making it at the top. Yeah, fuck, dude.

All right. You've seen how many businesses, how many, how many athletes, how many individuals, they get to the top. all right and now what you just said the improvement from there is so difficult you know look at your company everybody tell man you guys got that you got the best you got the best products you got the best products you said no we're going to make it we're going to make them even we're going to make them even better well how do you improve on the best how do you improve on the best everybody when you guys got into the energy space what are you doing man you guys are crazy No, you know, this is out of your wheelhouse.

You need to stay with us. And you know what your answer is? Watch me. Yeah. Well, we'll figure it the fuck out. Yeah. Because that's what people do. That's what winners do.

They figure things out. What society wants now, they want an easy job. They want lots of free time and they want to make lots of money. Yeah. That puzzle doesn't fit. No, it doesn't. It just, it's not. None of those pieces fit, none of those pieces fit together.

They just don't. Dude, I was sitting, I was sitting with my buddy, Zoltan. You might be familiar with them. He plays guitar for five finger death punch. Yes. He, we were sitting in my house one night and I was going through a, you know, a challenging time. We were just talking.

We were talking a little bit about this because, like, dude, even after you like realize that you're built for it, you start, sometimes you're around enough people. you're like fuck this is i am crazy you know you start believing there's something wrong with you again and i was going through one of those phases and he's like bro did you ever consider the fact that like we need people in the world of fucking that love the fucking war like we need people like you like there's nothing wrong with you dude and i'm like you were sitting there yeah i was there i was like i was there fuck that's that's accurate like what am i doing trying to fucking calm my shit you're trying to

to fight who you're supposed to be. Dude, that's what I'm saying. And that struggle, that struggle is very common with ambitious people. We have two kinds of people. We have at least people. And you hear this all the time. We got these people that haven't done shit. They're not wired to do shit.

They think there's somebody that they aren't. These are all the guys who read your book and say, well, I'm a fucking cleaner. Yeah. Right. And what do we say? A cleaner never calls himself a cleaner. Because, dude, that's the nature of success. Like we, you know, oh, how do you feel now that you've made it the fuck you're talking about, bro?

Made what? Yes. That's what I'm talking about. Like the brownies? I made the brown. They were good. You know, like I just, we just don't think that way. And, you know, I think there's a very big problem with the world.

I think a lot because we, you know, obviously have a lot of people who are high achievers on the, that listen to the show or want to be. And one of the biggest problems, man, is that like we're. constantly inundated with this weak fucking victim bullshit. You know, you, you, you got to, you got to balance your day out. Or you have to do this. So you got to do this. And, you know, you got to have peace and motherfucker. I got fucking darkness and war and destruction in my fucking heart.

Yeah. And if this were the 1400s, I'd be riding around on a horse. Cut motherfuckers heads off. Okay. But instead, lucky for society, I can do business. you know what I'm saying like so we have to understand there are people that are built for this and if you're one of these people that's built for this when you consume all this fucking bullshit on the internet it starts to fuck you up and you have to realize that that is written for everybody

else that is not written for the people that change the motherfucking world that is written for your average dude who is stressed because fucking he didn't cut the grass yet this week or whatever right like it's it's not for you and I think that's a big deal that like a lot of you guys who have ambitions and goals and dreams you have to realize that shit will fuck you up you need to stay the fuck away from it everybody that of every client that I've ever worked with from a business standpoint from an athletic standpoint when you talk about cutting the grass and see this is how why we relate so well winners have this thing they need to finish they need to finish everything that they started at the highest highest level there's a thing i i must finish i must finish i must

finish i must finish this no man you can do you can do you can do you can do we don't see tomorrow we don't we don't we don't see tomorrow all right we see the moment now we see the moment now and we know we have to finish and finish at the highest level because if we're fortunate enough to have tomorrow there's more things that need to be finished yeah there are more things that need to be finished and that's why when people tell you you need to unwind you need to relax we are the most uncomfortable when we are unwound. It's just like, it's not, it's not, it's not a good, it's not a good, it's not a good, it's not a good, it's not a good feeling. It is not a good feeling. We relax in ways that are special to us. We release for a moment in ways that are unique to us that the other society,

people just don't understand. They don't understand. And a lot of times, they don't approve either. Yeah. Well, we're not looking for their, we're not looking for their approval because here's the thing. If we're looking for their approval, we're them. Yeah, I know shit. We're, we're them. All right. And what it is is when you talk about all the information that everybody's inundated out there with, when I look at those things, that's entertainment for us.

Yeah. It's literally, it's literally, it's literally entertainment. And you're just like, well, we just laugh. Anytime there's a negative post and I've never reacted to one.

I just laugh. I just, I just, I just laugh because here's the thing. If you get emotional about something that's said about you or you say about something or something that you post on your podcast,

on your different platforms, and people say, you're fucking crazy, you're this, you're right, you just struck a nerve. Yeah. You just, you just, you just, you just, and what happens when you strike a nerve? The first thing is for them to put up their defense shield, because now what happens is they're so busy trying to expose you, they just got exposed. They just got, the mirror does not lie. The mirror, there's a reason from your, in your 75, in your 75 heart, you say every single day,

every single workout take a picture of yourself because that mirror does not lie you lie but that mirror is not lying nope never does and how many times going back on that you know and I know that's you've had millions of people do do that program how many fucking times have you started over quite a few I've had a hard time this year to be honest yeah and I've been doing it for well look It's called 75 fucking hard. It's not, you don't get used to it because you have to push yourself to do it. But you're doing it right. If you're doing it right, you are pushing yourself to do it.

And it's not just easy, no matter who you are. But yeah, bro, lots of times. And you don't get used to winning. No. Because there's always more. There's always more. There's always more. You like, yeah, you won that.

That's great. That's great. but what's what's next what it what if this always has to be a next you know we talk about you know I use this analogy or not a lot okay hell is definitely a place it's a place okay but hell is a place where you either stay or you start we've all started in hell the winners decide not to stay most people love to stay and everybody thinks hell is this like this crazy place and hell is one of the most comfortable environments out there because that's where all your excuses live that's all the same people that you know you tell them oh everything's going to be

great oh you don't have to worry about you don't have to you don't have to work you don't have to worry about this they point fingers at everybody everybody else it's everybody says come on come on over here this is where it's comfortable this is where you know we are we under we understand we understand understand you, you shouldn't have to work so hard. You don't have to be successful. You don't have to want, you don't have to want it all. And about, yeah, you know what, that's great. And it's constantly trying to pull you back. It's constantly trying to pull you back. But what we do is, and every CEO, because every company that's running a business and, you know, that's public out there, they got investors. They got, they got people that have bought stock into it. They bought

the company, and they're like, okay, yeah, we finished off this physical year and the stock price is X. Great. We can't be here the same place next year. So what do those individuals do? They're like, oh, man, we made it. We made it. We made it. We made it. As soon as they hit, as soon as that year books close, what do they do? They take that trip back to hell. But they don't stay there. They don't stay there. But most people that run businesses into the ground or get to a certain level or athletes, whatever, whatever may be individuals or so forth, when they make that trip back to hell again and people say, hey, man, you don't have to do that again.

You don't have to be, you don't have to work that hard. Don't worry about those people. Just relax, unwind. Come on, enjoy yourself and so forth. And there's more people. It's that tug of war. more of those people tugging at you and then you look at yourself and you're like, no, I can't, I can't stay here.

I need to, this is a place where I'm going to start, but I'm not going to stay here, but then you look at your hands and, you know, you look at how bloody they are. They got the calluses. They got the, they got the blisters. You look at yourself, you look at yourself in the face. You look yourself in the face and you're like, man, people are like, I'm worn out. I'm tired, but everybody looks at those things as being ugly, and you look at those things as being fucking beautiful.

Yeah, I do. You're like, you look at them and being, there is nothing, there is nothing more powerful than an individual that can heal their own wounds. So when they see those wounds on themselves, they know they earned them. And they said, the only way I can heal these things again, is I got to win again.

I have to win again. And the winning is just not for me. When you win, all the people that listen to you on a regular basis that like say, hey, this is the person I want to listen to. This is the person I want to follow because he's giving me the information straight. Not only does he talk,

talk. But guess what? He's got how many square footage of results and how many products of proof. There's valid, there's validation in that. So it's not only for us. It's for those, it's for those, it's for those individuals. We want to touch as many individuals. We want to show them it's, we want to show them it's possible. It's, it's real. But there's a huge price that comes with it and that price continues to go up and at some point people just don't want to pay that price anymore man it's facts dude one question before we get into the show show from your experience of dealing with the best performers on the planet ever Is it hate to lose or is it love to win?

It's neither. What do you think it is? It's neither. You know what? They hate to lose and they love to win. But it's a combination of both. See, what happens is when you think of hate to lose, you know, whether they hate to lose or they love to win,

you're letting your emotions get in the way. You're letting your emotions get in the way. You're letting your emotion. Man, I hate to fight. I fucking lose. All right. Or when you win, you're like, yes. Yes, I win.

Most individuals being able to have control over that emotion, being able to have control of your thoughts, being able to have control of your actions, being able to have control of your emotions is what true winners are, what true winners are about. People want to celebrate too early. They want to celebrate, they want to celebrate too soon. When you win, when you win at the highest, when you win at the highest level, that's when you want to sell me i was watching um i think it was wimbledon i was watching i was watching i was watching wimbledon and there was a match there was a match there was a match going on and the person had won

the person had won the match and i just watched everybody's reaction after the match after the match and i just said i said the next match that person plays they're going to lose they're going to they're going to lose because literally winning that match was their celebration that was their conf that was that confetti that was that confetti that was that confetti that's where all their energy went that's where all their emotions went that's where all their thoughts went not realizing i'm not finished i'm not finished all right so when when people talk about man, whether it's, you know, hate to lose or, you know, I love to win. That means you're letting an emotional component get in.

And the only emotional component, the only thing that should ever affect your emotion is when you do win. Derek Jeter had this unbelievable thing. I saw a post that come in and they asked him, what was, they asked him, what was his toughest years? And he mentioned every single year, he didn't win the World Series. He goes, those were my toughest years. Not he didn't pick a moment, he didn't pick this, he didn't pick the, he goes, he goes, I play to win. He goes, I play to win. And when you play to win, you have control over your behavior, you have control over your thoughts, you have control over your

emotions. You have control over your actions. People celebrate too soon. Celebrate hard, but don't celebrate long, but you have to, that celebration doesn't, people want to celebrate if you win, let's take, let's go back to tennis. You have to win multiple matches in order to be considered the winner. You got individuals celebrating every single. Yeah, round one. Yeah. Yeah. There's a big difference between enjoying the moment and a celebration. Enjoy those wins, but save the celebration for the end. Save the celebration for the end.

There's also like there's almost like a, because I see like playing football, coaching football, you see people win. I remember one time there was a game. Like our kids won. And they're like doing front flips and stuff and cartwheels. It's like what, you know, the head coach. He was like, what do you guys, you guys are acting like you're surprised. Like, this was expected.

Like, there's an expectation. Like, what is, what is this? Like, y'all act like y'all surprised that y'all won. Like, no, like, there was a game plan here. There was practices that we showed up to. You know what I'm saying? Like, there was all these pieces that went into this. What are you acting like y'all surprised that we won?

I think that's a huge deal. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think, I know for me, I could win the world's biggest event today and not really even give a fuck. I mean, I'd be glad. won but you're not going to see me run around like a fucking weirdo like there'd be some fist bumps i expect to win i expect it that's my standard i expect to win you're not in this to lose no but like it's an expectation yeah yeah it's not fucking

having confidence in no no no no no it's an expectation it's not confidence it's not it's it's fucking that is the minimal acceptable standard to me period. That's it. And when it comes to losing, I feel like a hate to lose mentality is almost required because it sets the bar for what's acceptable. You almost have to hate losing so much that you are not willing to accept anything other than the win. I agree with you Randy, but only if you're wired, only if you're wired a certain way, if you're only a wired a certain way, because a lot of individuals cannot handle hate. They cannot handle emotionally. They just, they just, they just, they just can't. This goes back to what you said

about the sensitivity meter, all right? How can you hate to lose if your sensitivity, Metivity meter is extremely volatile. Everybody taught, you know, it's a great thing to say. It's a great thing to say, man, I hate to lose. But when you do lose, what do you do immediately next? Well, you've got to be disciplined in the method. Yeah. You know, I can hate to lose and still understand that me throwing some sort of fucking tantrum

doesn't help. Yeah, right, right, right. Like, I hate to lose. And that's the emotion. And it drives me back to work. That's the emotion. part I'm taught that's the emotion part I was talking about when people hate people say that they hate to lose and they go out and they release all these emotions instead of you know what hey

no you should pour that into the reps exactly exactly exactly what I love it no I love it that's a great man yeah dude losing and winning is like my favorite thing to talk about and yours too yeah because there's no in between yeah listen it's funny um there was a there was a there was a story on that read of a general manager of an NBA basketball team he's really big into analytics and I don't throw names out there you know I that's not that's not what I do all right he literally went up he was with another organization he literally went up to the the team had just lost a game literally just lost a game in the playoffs he went up to the owner of the team and he was a big analytics guy and he showed

the numbers, he said, well, if you look at the numbers, we actually won. True story. True, true story. The score is the score. It's funny. Everybody wants, the numbers in your bank account are the numbers in your bank account. The numbers in your business are the numbers in your business. The only place that people don't want to pay attention to the numbers is when it's the score or when you weigh yourself yeah dude it's such that's such a huge because like data is such a huge part of business and winning it just is but there's nothing fucking worse than someone who uses data to justify lack of results they say yeah but yeah motherfucker you see the fucking score that's the fucking score that's the fucking

number it doesn't matter all this shit dude dangerous word but dangerous word dude it's the worst it's like the moral victory you know like oh yeah you know all the data says we should we had some first downs fuck it's a season high first down let me ask you something

both of you guys DJ hey what the hell's a definition of a moral victory there isn't one it's bullshit it's the it's it's what losers tell themselves to feel better about losing. That's the truth. And it's become accepted in reality as some sort of like consolation prize.

There is no consolation prize. There is and then there isn't. You either won or you lost. You did it or you didn't. You either are or you aren't. And that's the reality of life. And this fucking attitude that we've conditioned society to be like refuses to acknowledge the truth

because they tell themselves these bridge stories right well we almost made it but we didn't but that doesn't fucking matter you didn't make it you lost like this misunderstanding I think cost people it costs more people

their dreams than anything else like no one gives a shit that you tried hard bro like I'm sorry that sounds mean I understand you're sweating you're working you're trying no one cares no one fucking cares they only care about that shit if you want if you want people to care about the struggle you went through win that's it oh man otherwise they don't give a fuck that's real man that's real consolation

prize that's the hammer right there yeah my moral victory yeah but you know we tried huh feel good about myself a trying hard if fucking my aunt had fucking dick she'd be my uncle you know what I'm saying like I don't know what to tell you it's the fucking anyway no that's real man you look at we got on how often do I get at DJ hey man where's your way that what are you doing I'm caught he's not he's not he's not he's not responding yeah all right Tim Tim hits me up personally by the way guys yeah personally personally I say man what that what the what the what that what the what hell what that what I was going on I know he's holding himself accountable but

here's a thing everybody who holds themselves accountable, has somebody else who's also holding themselves accountable. All right. I have a direct line to Andrew. Andrew has a direct line to me. And I know if I'm fucking up, I'm getting a text from him. I know. Am I just saying?

Here's a thing. No. It won't be an explanation. You know what it's going to say? It's going to say, dude. That's all I was going to say. Yeah. And I already know.

I already know what that meant. There's no explanation needed. There's no long sentence. There isn't anything going to do. Got it. Same thing with his brother, Sal. Yeah. Same thing with him.

You know, he obviously, if you follow Sal and if you're not, you should. All right. He was, I'm watching him raise his three beautiful kids. And the one thing I text him, I see, you know, He was in wrestling and he's all doing all these different things. And I told, I said, listen, Sal, whatever you do, I said, make sure he has something physical for the rest of his life, for the, for the, for the, for the rest of his life. And the girls are doing gymnastics and all this, all this, all this stuff.

Because once you take care of the physical, you feel so much better. about yourself then to become then you as a mental individual you don't need long sentences to explain just a simple dude is going to be like i got it i got i got it it's simple it is it's simple people want to make things so freaking bro that's why i get so fucking annoyed talking about it sometimes tim it's like this ain't fucking hard bro and you said it to so many times it's not you got to fucking do it all these people listen to all this bullshit by all these average motherfuckers looking for this secret that doesn't fucking exist and then the people who tell them the secret for a fucking decade get you know it's like dude dude listen

i can promise you this none of these other motherfuckers that you listen to are going to tell you anything that actually fucking gets you where you want to go different than what I'm telling you that works that's it there's like three things that work you know what I'm saying like you have to do the shit you got to have an idea that fucking will work uh you're you got to be relentless about it for fucking ever and you know everybody listens to all this garbage like hoping it'll motivate him bro if your own life doesn't motivate you then you ain't fucking making it if you can't look around at your life and say damn dude I need to make change you ain't got it and ain't gonna work if you need to pumped up be pumped up all the time

and told how great you could be and this and that you ain't got it if you got to be fucking convinced to go and you got to have your handheld you ain't got it if you got to fucking have every question answered by somebody who's an expert and you wait to do anything until your quote unquote mentor gets back to you you don't have it you don't have it everybody wants to be told what to do when you already know what to do. Dude, it's so fruckus. It's fucking frustrating. Yeah.

Hey, listen to Tony, how many times do you say this over and over again you could always tell? Now, Andy's already got a lot of bass in his voice. So does D. And when he brings up this point, it agitates and irritates him even more. Because it's disrespectful to the people who have actually done things. Yes.

It's saying to this. It's like sitting across from me and I know all the things I've had to go through. I know all the fucking challenges, all the trials, all the tribulations, all the suicidal thoughts, all the bad,

all of it, the fucking struck, all of it being misunderstood, being called names, being made fun of, being laughed at, all of it. I know exactly what I've gone through

to get to this point. And when someone sits across from me, and starts asking me questions about how to get around that. And basically, you know, so-and-so said, this is the hack. Well, so-and-so's broke. They got a fucking podcast microphone and they make videos on the internet. They're a content creator, okay? We have to understand that when you sit across from someone who's paid that

motherfucking price and you ask them what the shortcut is they want to fucking choke you okay real talk like i want to reach across the table and rip your fucking adam's apple out because you're disrespecting the work that and the struggle and the pain that i've had to go through and then you're it's sort of insinuating you didn't really have to go through all that did you you didn't really that's that's kind of bullshit isn't it that's just you i'm different you see what I'm saying. Yeah. And then they think there's some sort of entitlement because they get to skip the fucking fight. Bro, you're not even any good at what you do. You haven't even started learning this yet. What makes you think that you're, that's like going to the fucking NBA

practice and standing on the sideline and like going out and shooting some fucking free throws and be a hey lebron give me the fucking secret bro like you didn't really do all that work it can be that hard it's just so yeah you didn't do all that fucking this bro come on you didn't get up at three o'clock in the morning and do chest passes what's the real secret you know what I'm saying and it's like dude

well like I will fucking choke you how many times have both of you and everybody sitting in this room man what's the one thing I would stop right there. What's the one thing? Yeah. What's your morning routine? Yeah. There is no one thing. And the minute you tell them that, they're like, whoa. What's what's the one? What's the one thing? Why did in my books, relentless and winning, I listed everything as one. Yeah. It's all these things.

I was thinking about that. When you were saying the hell analogy, if you really want to break that down further, you start out in hell every motherfucking morning, bro. And you've got to do everything you can to dig out by the end of the day. And guess what? When you wake up in the morning, you're going to be there again. Yeah. And that's the fucking, that's what success building is like. That's the one thing for you.

Yeah. Every fucking day. Here's the thing. Everybody. Here's the one thing. It's going to fucking suck. How about that? No.

If you get, listen. If you blessed every single morning or night, whenever you get up, to, Open your eyes. I do this every single day. This is my morning routine for people that was, oh, Grover, what you? I'm about to tell you right now. If I'm blessed enough to have another day

and I open my eyes and I can put my feet on the ground, the first thing I say is thank you. And now the rest is up to me. The rest is up. The rest is up. The rest is up. The rest is up to you. That's it.

Because one day, one day, I'm not going to have the opportunity to do either. Yeah. And the thing that you talk to the biggest achievers, and if you can get them to tell you the truth, not the stuff that everybody wants to hear, and that's the one thing about this, you will always hear,

You will get, you won't get what you want to hear. You get what you need to hear. All right. It's always on you. It's always going to be on you. Once you wake up in that morning, every decision you make, every action you make, all those things is going to determine where everything is going to go. There's been people that have woken up one morning and just said, I don't like that.

like the way I look anymore. Total transformation. People that wake up in the morning and says, I'm never drinking again. Well, I'm never going to do drugs. I'm never going to, I'm never going to do this. They wake up and they say, I make that decision. And what he says, and you think like Andrew just said,

you think that's easy when they get up in the morning, that's hell? I was a very heavy individual. Okay. DJ was a very heavy individual. You don't think so that heavy individual every single morning when we get up is standing right next to the bed and saying, hey, man, we want you back. Yeah.

We want you back. Why you got to go work out? Go back in a bed. I stayed in a very nice hotel while I'm out here. Man, that bed was comfortable. Them sheets were nice. All right. Hey, I could have easily rolled over.

Got to go work out. got to get my got to get my work got to get my work out in I have to do is I got to prepare I got some things I got I'm blessed I'm blessed to be asked to do this tremendous podcast I have to be prepared for because if I'm not prepared for it the person that's sitting in that chair across from me he's going to have no issues exposing me because I put myself in that position to be exposed. You're not exposable. You're unexposed.

I think you're unexposedable. All right, let's talk about these fucking idiots going on in the world. Let's get into it, guys. It is cruising internet. We're going to do some cruising with Tim, man. This is going to be exciting. Let's get into it, guys. Remember, as always...

Before we get cruising, Andy, what car are we cruising in right now? What do I drive to that? $350. $350. I drove my Mustang 350 R. Yeah, it's a, it's, it's not the, the flashiest thing, but it's one of the most fun cars to drive ever. Yeah. So I love it.

I drive a lot. No, you've been ripping it. You've been fucking ripping it. I like things. I'm starting to like really, like, you know, I've had the nice cars forever. So now I'm starting to like care way less about the, the, the, whatever, the prestige, you know, and starting to like really enjoy getting. better as a driver so i'm like getting more into like raw race type cars that are manual transmission you know that i can practice driving in nice yeah that's that's evolution that's

growth that's change i still like all the other shit but like i drive i try to drive manual transmission car as much as possible because it takes a lifetime to master yes it does yeah and it's interesting yeah yes yes it does people that drive a commute man they're like oh you know like I'm talking about driving it like a race car yeah I'm talking tail toe rub matches like these are things that are they take coordination if by that statement you didn't figure that out yeah yeah yeah we got a quick commute too yeah so yeah man well guys remember if you want to see any of these pictures articles links videos go to andyfercella.com you guys can find them all link there for you um if you guys

are listening on audio come check us out multiple locations find us on on the tube find us on the x and also find us on spotify if you can't find us you ain't looking you're like you're lily not you're not looking at you're not looking yeah let's get into it man um let's get into it i had a little intro here i thought this was interesting um there was a a typhoon that uh blew through uh Taiwan did you guys see that or hear about that at all no yeah a pretty bad typhoon going on uh that blew through it um and there's a uh there's a website I guess you can go just like a in-depth weather calculator thing it's like the shows all the wind stuff and it's called wendy.com and you can go there and check it out for yourselves this is I'm not trying to pull a leg here it's just real something else this is the typhoon that's hit in Taiwan apparently so type type Taiwan's getting fucked this is real too this is not it's not bullshit. Grock verified it, saying this windy.com map shows wind patterns from typhoon

Poto hitting southern Taiwan today, August 13, 2025. Purple areas indicate gust exceeding 11 meters per second with swirls near Kiyashong and Leneu. The formation amusingly resembles male genitalia with Taiwan as the shaft. Stay safe amid the storm. So is that looking out of the left side mirror or the right side where it says objects may seem closer than they appear. Yeah. It looks on par for the region. I mean, it looks, yes.

That's what I was going to say. And with that thing, only one person is missing. That's right. That's right. Oh, man. I don't know. Taiwan's actually not a bad looking place, though. But, yeah, there's like 33 people been injured so far.

So, I mean, we'll stay up to date. it's moving into China so I'm sure they get a little bit smaller but um no pun intended you know what what I'm saying uh but yeah let's get into the cruise man we got we got to check in on some stuff uh we got some stuff that's happening um want to do uh headline number one um going into our first first set of headlines here uh got to go back to dc there's been some updates going on uh the crime thing is a big conversation right now across the country um crime rates happening everywhere and Trump did something crazy in D.C. where he enacted the Federal Guard, National Guard.

We talked about this, the last CTI. There's been some updates. Now you got D.C. residents heckle authorities at checkpoint amid ramped up federal presence. So federal law enforcement officers in Washington were heckled Wednesday ascensions rise in the nation's capital over President Trump's move to take over the local police force. A group of protesters near the 14th Street, Northwest Corridor, where the agents of staff. the vehicle checkpoint, shouted out or held up signs with phrases such as go home, fascists, and get off our streets. There is a clip here. Let's check this out. So it's like 15 people, right?

And now one of them looks like they do shit, but complain. Well, it's the same people, man. It's the same, it's the same people. And it's like, you know, they're upset because the police, because crime is so bad there. The police are coming in to help put a stop to the crime. It's like they're protesting to allow. communities to continue to get devastated is what it sounds like. It's interesting too because I was watching on TV and it seems like both the left and the

right are in favor of this in Washington, D.C. Yeah, the actual residence. Yeah. Well, even the liberal media was covering it saying that like they thought it was a good idea because they live in Washington, D.C. They know how bad it is. Yeah. Or you can't go to CVS and get deodorant because it's behind Plexiglass.

It's like, it's bullshit. It's bad. It's not. DC. Now, Tim, you're, you're Chicago, right? Yes. How's Chicago right now? What would you say the temp is in Chicago? Well, the temperature, outside temperature, it's very warm. But the way the city, it's, yeah, it's people already know. Yeah. People are, people are, people are, people are, people are, people are, people are happy with the situation that, that's going on. I've been a life for a first Chicago and for the first time, I've actually,

thought about yeah I might have had it I might have had enough I just might have had enough here's a thing for some reason I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't understand this why people just cannot work together I just it's like count it's like point counterpoint point everybody's just all everybody's just arguing not nothing's nothing's getting, nothing's getting done. Everybody's pointing fingers at the other, other individuals instead of actually doing something that can make life better,

the streets, everything for better for everyone, not just in Chicago and D.C., where California, Florida, wherever, whatever it may be, whatever it may be. It's the first thing we've got to do is come together. put you this is like all right i'm watching this video i'm watching this video now all right so you got the people on the on the other side if something was going if something happened to them in their house who's the first people they're going to go bro if something happened right there if someone drove down the street right there like they do every every night in chicago and started

popping off gun rounds they would look directly to the same people they're heckling and say do something but don't do nothing too hard though yeah yeah exactly yeah it's crazy dude those people have never been affected by actual violent crime they've never had listen you cannot behave that way without being ignorant to the effect that crime actually has on a family or an individual go go tell that to somebody whose loved one was killed by gun violence correct and and on top of that dude For us to get together and be unified, we would have to fucking come to an understanding that crime is bad.

Violence is bad. And we've got literally got to a point where we have to come to an understanding to say that crime is bad. Yeah, that's insane. That's insane. Yeah, dude. Like it's a bad thing to commit crimes.

Yeah. Yeah. Look, dude, the reason these people act the way they do is because they have very, they have very sheltered up. most of them come from upper middle class upbringings they don't come from the streets they don't they've never dealt with crime they've never dealt with people that commit crime that don't give two fucks about you and say you know oh i have i i care about you they don't care by you though

that's the problem right like these people are so sheltered and that's what turns them into these idealists like you know i i understand that you want to see the good and everybody i understand that you know you want everybody to kind of be able to survive and I understand all that but you don't understand that like you the the problem we have in this country is that there is a whole group of people who have had it too good for too long that don't understand what real world is like like in the real world there are bad people and then there are good people and that just like there's winning and there's losing yeah and those bad people they're not exclusively black or white or Jewish or from you know third world cut there's just bad

they're exclusively bad that's correct and we get played against each other for the benefit of other people to believe that you know this group is bad or that group is bad or this it's not it's just not true it's not true and the propaganda has been so strong for so long that it's very hard for people to come together. You know, it's. Well, they intentionally make it too divisive. And they intentionally do things. Yeah, but dude, the thing is,

there's no doubt that they intentionally stir it. But you have to have a willingness to compromise and have a conversation. And there's people on both sides, but I would primarily say the far left side that will, they will, they fucking hate. you yeah well i mean that's what i was going to get to i mean to that point though it's like

you know they will intentionally do things to to to trick you into believing or knowing what's the actual truth like this came out so like you know with the dc thing it's like you know oh you know crime violent crime has been at an all time low it's going down it's like well and then they get their face busted because you know the dc police commander just got suspended accused of changing crime statistics who said that who said it that was what was those guys name? Yeah. What was that?

Randy. Randy. Randy. Why got to be BJ? I was talking about BJ. It's because he likes to get blow jobs. Oh, come on. But yeah, it's like, you know, so like this stuff like this comes out, you know?

And it's like, yeah, like this dude was literally changing the statistics of the violent crime that was coming in. So it was not just that they were not reporting it. They were literally changing things in the counting, you know? And it's like, but this guy. guys out here saying he protects in terms of community. No, you don't. That's him.

That's him. They did it? Yeah, this is him. This is, his name is Michael Pulliam. He's been placed on administrative leave, paid administrative leave, by the way. And this got called out by the union, the police union. They claimed that the supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it

appear that violent crime has fallen considerably. And so it has not fallen at all. It's increased. um is what uh what they came to discover so it's getting it's like it's like what good is that doing what would be the purpose of we reported that three years ago yeah yeah three fucking years ago we reported that and by the way it's not just in dc it's in new york it's in fucking chicago everywhere it's in houston it's in st louis it's in fucking l a and we reported it now it's five three years ago we talked about this bro

now it's people like oh you're just a conspiracy theorist racist you hate black people no motherfucker i know math yeah like this this percentage does this amount of crime this is this is where the violence is it's very simple it's very simple and if we don't acknowledge the reality of data then we cannot fix the problem which is ultimately what the racism comes from how the fuck do you fix a like how do you how can you say i care about the black communities but the crime rate is something that it isn't. Like that's not where you start to fix problems. Well, I mean, it's no different.

It's just like you said waking up in the mirror, bro. The mirror, no lie. We're stepping on the scale. That's what I'm about to say. Like, I mean, yeah, you can call yourself skinny all you want or you're healthy or you step on this. I think people are waking up to it though, dude. I mean, I think people are realizing like. Well, for sure.

Because I saw the polling for this Trump shit. Yeah. And when it first started happening and I was like, dude, they're going to go crazy because they're going to say he's enacting martial law and he's being tyrannical and this and that and then what we saw in the media was you know both sides of the media were like hey I think it's a good idea that we maybe clean the shit up well that's the thing because you can't tell us of violent crimes at all time low when I can't walk down my street and go to dinner yeah like these two things it can't be a square circle like like they don't make sense you know what I'm saying so it's

like I'm seeing this with my own eyes and you're telling me that it's this It doesn't work. It doesn't work, man. Let's see what the chat got on this. Math is racist, Brosef. That's real. Yeah, you got to keep the chaos

so structure isn't allowed to form. Correct. That's real. That's real. Yeah, man. Like I said, this DC situation. Yeah, Julianne Michaels did call them out on CNN

saying that they were blaming everything on white people. And then saying that fucking, you know, for years they've been demonizing white people for everything. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it is white people. I mean, it's the white devil.

I think we all know that. Yeah. It's a real thing, man. So we'll keep you guys up to date with what's happening in D.C. We'll stay on the, stay on the temp gauge there. But yeah, let us know down the comments, what you guys think. With that being said, let's go cruise some of these comments. We've got a couple of them here.

This first comment comes from funky moose chops. He says, ironically enough, DJ, Did shout out the best mayonnaise brand. Dukes being given my family heart problems since the 50s. You like mayonnaise, bro? Me, no. Yeah, me neither. See, that winners don't fucking eat mayonnaise.

Is that what it is? Manas is just fucking losers. Is that what I've never, I've never. Shit's nasty, isn't it? Yeah. Potato salad. You've had potato salad. It's like curdled milk in a fucking gelatin form.

It's disgusting. I don't understand it. man somebody said somebody said man days make your butt leak yeah well I wouldn't know because I'm not a loser I don't eat it all right that's cool next one is Ross Madden

he says doing the show live is pretty sick what if DJ shows up late DJ ain't going to show up late that's right that's it well Andy will probably show up

that's what I said I didn't say AF won't show off later I said DJ will show up late all right that the question we're asking his own time we're asking his schedule

yeah all right you're in DJ thank you that we have that listen we'll keep that we know that we know that we're all to be seated and when

Andrew walks in that's when it starts that's what it starts That's what it's right. No. Hey, listen. If you bet on the... I'm trying to, man.

This is a hobby. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got a job to do. Right outside those walls. Yeah. Yeah. That's all good. That's all good.

Yeah, we got another one. Fault line. What do you guys say? I know you guys have some fucking shit you say. Who? Like when I say it's going to be three, what do you say? Is that what it is? 330.

So it's 30 minutes, grace? All right. That's fair. That's fair. Listen, if he says three, as long as long as long as, as the first number is three. If it's $3.59. That's $3.59.

It's 3. That is 3. It is. That's accurate. That's black people. That's three. No. It's what that is. It says fucking three. That's it. He didn't say three on the dot. Three that. He said three. Three. Three. And it says something. It's something. That's right. We got another one, a fault line king. This was a Spotify comment two days ago. He says solid eight months of bugging the hell out of the local gas. station, I'm pleased to say we now have every flavor of form energy drinks. That orange is the

tits. The orange is definitely good. Orange is pretty good. What's your favorite? We already know what's your second favorite. That's not fair. What's your favorite dad? What's the favorite, DJ? Great. Yeah, see? Hey, man, you're wrong for that. I mean, you know, I do what it was. what's second favorite though for real second favorite uh scream of freedom bro i don't know how people can't say scream is number one like it's to me it's a lot better than the rest yeah i mean it's good what do they call what is this flavor anyway it's cream of freedom i know it's cherry i can't read it oh shit you have to get some peepers bro toss them is that i can't toss them because i take them off i can't see it

going to catch it apparently so cherry lemon blueberry hey man with eagle blood extended out farther yeah dude that just started for me my my cousin who who's my optometrist dan he's like once you turn 40 it's you're going to have to get them and it's been like i'm holding off but now it's like getting to the point where you're like i can really tell yeah man you'll get there fine wine baby yep that's what it is uh last one I decided to bring an OG comment in. By the way, thank you for that, dude. Appreciate you guys that are demanding for these places to carry it.

They're going to be carrying it soon anyway because we're selling way more than we thought we would. Thanks to you guys. Great, great problems to have, man. And then with Tim on the show, I have a comment from the last time you were on the show. This was two years ago. From W.B. Willie. Thank you, Tim Grover.

I read the entire book after learning about it on this podcast. And it truly, it is truly amazing work. After reading it all the way through, I'm going to read it again because this work is so far above my understanding of greatness that I feel like I couldn't completely comprehend everything. I know in order to do this right, I need to know everything or else I've got holes in my boat. Very grateful for all this valuable stuff. That's one thing about your book Relentless, bro, is you have to read it multiple times. And depending, dude, I think it's one of the most brilliant books ever written. talk. And the reason I believe that is because, dude, I read it by once a year. You know that.

Yes, I do. And every time I'm in a different place, bro, it means something different. It's a fucking work of art. Yes. It means something different depending on where you are in your journey, where you are in your life. What's going on? And you know what I always say? Relentless is about the mindset. Winning is about the journey that very few will take and how to use that mindset. in it. No, because it's, people can get, I have the, I have the mindset. Okay, you have, if you say you have the mindset, now let's see you put it to work and let's see, let's see you win.

And it's exactly what you said. Those words and those books mean different things to you in different stages of your life, different places in your journey, where you are at, where you are as an individual. I know you do a lot, you do a lot of reading. You do a lot of reading. But what you do is you always go back. Like you said, you read that book once a year. You go back to your foundation.

It's not about how much you read. It's about how much you retain and what you do with that information. You know, I used to tell Kobe and I always had this guy. Everyone says knowledge is power. You know, knowledge is power. But only if you act. on it if you put it to use that's where the power that's where the power is that's what this podcast does all right it gives you the knowledge to get on the domestic terrorist list that's right

yeah that's right have fun with your flight back home to him yeah what are you doing in st louis oh andy we need you to bend over sir yeah oh man That's real, man. Guys, we do appreciate you for being real-ass fans, as always. Keep liking, keep commenting, keep subscribing. Make sure you guys hit that bell notification and stay up to date with the latest drops from Real AF. And also, check down in the description below if you guys want to be a part of this live chat, that secret society. There's a handshake.

There's a handshake. We've got to do. We'll send our people. And, yeah, we'll check into it. That's cool, man. See that young dude. Yes, it is. Doing it.

Yeah. It's always good, man. And you know what? Listen, again, thank you to everybody here. It's always appreciated. And, you know, Andrew and I've had discussions on doing more of this. So don't be surprised if we get invited. We get invited back and continue to expand everybody's idea of what it really takes

to define your definition of success. That's real. That's real. Let's keep cruising, shall we? I thought for headline number two, you know, I thought we'd do a little something different with you guys.

I have a brand new segment for you guys. Let's lose some brain sales. Tim Grover. Lose some brain cells. That's by that right? I don't think all that should belong on the screen at the same time, man. I mean, like we're going to lose

Listen, there's no doubt, we are we, everybody in this room. I'm saying, Tim might kill you, bro. We're about to lose some brain cells. All right. I'm just, just, just putting it out there, right? We got, I got some clips. This is from the official DJs. You're going to lose your job.

Yeah. No, this is from DJs. Well, you know, I'm a big, I'm a big person talking about you. Before you can add, you got to delete. That's right. Yeah. Well, this, this is, I got some videos here. that are straight from DJ's algorithm, okay?

So buckle up, all right? And let's just see how this goes. This should be called the next 20 minutes of racism. No, if it comes from your algorithm. Listen, I can't tell you, I don't know what's, I think I got to get a new phone because my algorithm, bro, is wild. So, yeah, let's just lose some brain cells together. Check this out.

All right. Did it work? You lose some? I did. I feel like I was about to get pissed. You know what? I got to admit. I know them.

Oh, man. All right. What the? Yep. Come on. Everybody good? We good? Listen.

I think it worked. Oh, we're not done yet. I got more. I got more. The only thing I can relate to that picture is I might have had that jacket at some point. Yeah. I think it looks like your old jacket. That's about your size.

That guy in a little coat. All right. Well, it gets way worse. Yeah. Yeah, what is, what is going on? I don't know. You know, sometimes I choose not to ask questions, you know, and just let things be what they are.

It is what it is. That guy moved into his first apartment ever and decided he's like, you know what I'm going to do now that I'm here? I'm going to upload the baddest video ever made. I'm going to let people see the real me. That's right. All right, let's keep moving. We got another one.

Here we go. Oh, we're almost there. We're almost there. Oh, oh. Oh. Is that one of your clients? Right. The agility.

Actually, I think the gymnasium in first form. I think you can host such an event. You can host an event. You know what? People actually pay for that. Oh, yeah. I would pay to see that. it they think i listen i you got nothing i think the person next uh that gentleman might be a lady

people have you listen people people people are into things man if you have nothing to say nice people people people people are people are people listen if they're happy and they're not hurting anybody that's their listen i don't understand it it's not for me to it's not for me to understand but that looks like a lady well i got more listen we got we got some good ones here all right let's check this next one out and DJ wants to know why his algorithm's all fucked up all right here we go Parkour. Parkour.

Parkour. She's in great shape. To be able to do all that, be able to balance on a branch, barefoot, go from... I feel like that's the final boss of, like, white liberal women. That's like... Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

She's the captain. That's like it. She's about to let out of scream. That's the ultimate form. Bro, that's it. Zishat, what do you think? Leave hard. Oh, man.

that's not what I was asking I got two more okay we're almost done here with the segment I promise see I'm over here trying to explain to people winning how to win and you know

but some people just on a different a different thing man but you know what and here's it with the crazy part to these people that's their win that is their win

I know how the fuck do you come up with something like this I don't but is that the best meal from the dark oh yeah So, you know what, it's those people don't understand us.

Well, it's like Kobe said. I don't want to understand that. We don't want, yeah, we don't, you know, I just, but that's, that's their, that's their, that's their win. Like you said, the guy of the first one we saw, that might be his first apartment. That's a huge, that's a huge, that's a huge. He's celebrated with a costume party. Yeah. There you go.

Right. Yeah. And he had his friends. Yeah. Oh. Oh. It's, well, it's, oh. Yeah.

And the crate, okay, but you know what the huge wins are? You know what the huge wins are? All right. They made it onto one of the world's top-rated podcasts. They don't know it yet. No, they don't know it yet. They'll find out tomorrow. They don't know yet, man.

What was going to combat banks? Yeah. DJ, yes. Thank you. I've been at this for five years. Hey, man. Hey, you know, I got, here's some winning. I got, I got another one.

Yeah. Okay, this is, okay, P-O-V. You're at your son's basketball game. He makes a free throw, and he does this. I mean, you would do that. Yeah. You're the one that comes in here And talks about how you can do the splits and shit

I can do a split but yeah You can? Yeah, right there, let's go No, I'm all right My pants Take them off I'm sorry Let's go

I don't think ever in my life I would have ever imagined Tim Gover would tell me take my pants off Yeah You said he can do this I can't I can't It's verified

But verified by who No Joe No Did he really do it Huh? No Sort of it was half ass it was acceptable

It sounds like you've been caught sounds like you've been caught Those diabetes gang initiation doing a half split with an ice cream cone That's good what would we do if I thought that was pretty respectable celebration it's a free throw i would say i would say i would say don't do that in public ever again no it's it's a free throw and like literally the coach and the this is where i okay i have a hard hard time with why are you cheering for that bullshit right i told you all the other three pointers that's fucking seven who's a coach who's a coach the parents what what do you what do you what do you think it's a team sport it's a team it's a team it's a team sport

All right. Winning requires a team effort. Why is people so, and this is why are people so, you know, I didn't can think about the word, but just like about making it their moment instead of making it about everybody else's moment. And you're included, you're included in that moment.

You know where that starts. I know. Yeah, it starts with dudes running off the field, taking their shirts off. their shoulder pads and fucking acting like assholes and kids see it and they're like oh i'm going to do that i had um go off track a little bit i literally had somebody tell me about a um a professional football player and said that been in the been in the league for a while and he said the only time that he's ever been confronted by the coach where the coach

was his first year in the league. After that, he was everything just, and he wants to learn. Yeah. And he wants to be learned. He wants to be coached. He wants to be disciplined. He wants to do that things.

He wants to get better. He goes, once. Well, I mean, there's another side of that. The other side is you're expected to be fucking great on your own. No. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I'm here to coach you.

make you better but the onus is on you that's always i've always wondered about that like because obviously like literally going middle school high school right like there's coaching like you're really being coach the best of the back you at you talk to tom brady talk to michael obviously you can't talk to cobi anymore but you look at these individuals and you look at their past coaches and they always ask you what you What's the common denominator among the greats? And they all would say they were very coachable. They take the information.

And you're putting out information here. Okay, you are literally these, for millions of people, you are their, you are their coach. You're literally giving them direction. Now, what they do with that direction. Now, that's not the only direction they get, but they're coming in here to be, to be coached, to become educated, to become better. They've opened up their minds. They've opened up their hearts.

They've opened up their souls to be like, hey, listen, I generally want to get better. I'm going to hold myself, I'm going to hold myself accountable, you know, and it's just like, well, how do you prove people wrong? How do you prove yourself right by improving? By improving. And that's what these, that's what these individuals want to do. the one thing, the best of the best, you're coachable. Yeah, because I realize that I'm a fucking idiot.

Yeah. You're your brother. You can't build what you guys have built. You know, I feel like an idiot. Like most of the time, I feel stupid. And I think, I think that's a common trait amongst high achievers when they're in the mode of building. when now when they when I walk out and got to do my thing you do you think yeah I'm not thinking I'm an idiot no I'm thinking like dude I'm gonna fucking crush you yeah you know but the rest of the time

I'm like all right how do I get better what's the problem where am I weak what do I got to do what do I need to learn how do I need to get better at this skill you know what I mean and you get that information it's a it's a it's a dichotomy right that most people can't really understand or see because all they see is the performance yeah like they see somebody like let's take Connor McGregor for example people would say Connor McGregor is not humble and I would argue that you are wrong and I'll tell you why because for him to get to the level that he is he had to learn a whole bunch of shit and to learn a bunch of shit and become great you have to be coachable which means you have to be humble, all right?

So what you see as the product doesn't mean that that person is not humble. And I believe that this is a big disconnect between the average person and how they look at high achievement. They see someone who is passionate, excited and understands, by the way, how to be a character and a product, which is part of his job. Yes, it is. And they see it and they say. And nobody does it better. No, he's great at it. And by the way, that's why he's been paid so well, because he understands, I am a character.

This is part of my job. And he couldn't have got, he couldn't have even got that good at talking shit without learning from someone how to do it. Yeah. So I would argue that most of the people that people say, that person is not humble because they're successful and they forgot where they can. It's actually some of the most humble people because they're coachable behind closed doors. Now, I've met him. I know him personally. We've done some work together.

One of the most giving individuals you'll ever meet. But he doesn't publicize it all the time. You know, you know other individuals that every time they give, it's for them. Yeah. It's for their moment. It's not for those. I'm telling you. Listen, is he perfect?

No, none of us are. none of us are perfect but one of the things he did tell me he goes i won but nobody told me what was coming along with winning we what we started this podcast with well you know that's real man he's got to figure it out bro oh yeah he's the only dude in the world that could put his fucking dick on the internet for the whole world to see and no one gives a fuck and still be okay i actually had one of those videos yeah i'm like i really won't go with it but yeah um yeah we lost the brain cells again that's why you have a rhythm on your phone is where it is i sent up to see the trick is i send them to other people too so i mess up their

algorithms oh my algorithm is certainly messed oh don't give me that no you send me the motherfucker that's because you sent him to me. Then I see them in the algorithm and then I'm like, oh, you get him. I like this came from him. I said to any stuff. He's like, I already seen this. That's true. I did get the weirdest suggestion in the world yesterday. And it was this post of this whale jumping out of the water with like a boner.

And I'm, and it said, suggested for you. And I'm like, is this where the fuck we're out now? I'm getting suggested whale boner pits. That's right. that's right like okay good day would be a lot i definitely did laugh when i saw it and we all have to laugh yeah got to i definitely laughed but i was curious we all we all we all we all have to we all have to we all have to laugh i'm gonna ask zuckerberg when i mean who suggested this why do you think that i want to see an orca's penis what's wrong with you well boner fetishes

said me more yeah but yeah all right appreciate it i hope you guys like that let's uh let's keep a cruise moving We've got one last headline here. We got a headline number three. Let's go to the sports arena. This is a topic we've covered a few times on the show because it's a new topic. By the way, if you've never seen Andrew in a suit, that's a good looking dude.

I'm telling you. I say we all look pretty good in suits. Yes. Yeah. Nobody does it like you, though, bro. Tim G's got the suit game. I have an Asian and a person. personal stylist.

That person. They're the same. Take care of this guy. All right. Yeah. Let's get through our third and final headline, guys. Headline number three, hell on them three reads.

Three WNBA players ejected after firing sun sky scrap. Yeah, let's talk about it. I just want to talk about the fever. That's it. We only talk about the fever. That's the only team. The sun's all right. Sun's all right.

sky's okay they're all right it's katelyn clark and sophy cuttingham that's it's the fucking league that's the league yeah sure well let's talk about it because they've been getting uh this been getting heat and it ain't got katelyn clark or sunny uh sophy involved um but apparently ejections now come in threes i think that was a pun they tried to do there a very dirty one in my opinion um a trio of wmba players earned the boot wednesday night following the altercation during the Sun's 71-62 home win over the sky. Connecticut's Brea Harley and Chicago's Rebecca Allen each received ejections for starting the scuffle

while the skies Ariel Atkins night ended early for being an escalator after shoving Hartley and touching a referee, according to the crew chief, Angelia Suffering, as reported by ESPN. The situation unfolded early in the second quarter when the sun's Sinaya Rivers and Hartley battled Allen for a rebound, which the former corralled. Here's the clip.

Let's check it out. But this action right here? There's a lot happening. A lot happening. Grab my shirt. I'm few on the ground. She didn't hit the court, though. She out of bounds.

Ariel Atkins says some words to. Bria and she says she grabbed me first man number ten's a big and pretty big pretty big that's like Shaq grab his dick twisted fucking Shaq Jr. out there yeah so we got some got some got that was it that was it that was it that was it they got ejected for that and there was ejections there come on all right let the girls fight now I'm just saying this will go up I've seen a lot worse happen with no ejections yeah like that other thing like the assaults on on Caitlin Clark like Caitlin Clark.

But let's talk about, let's talk about the, because, I mean, again, you, you've, you've been around and got to see some of the greatest in basketball ever play, right? Like, how much does emotions on the court, I guess, because, I mean, tempers get hot, right? Like, I get it, push and shoving, but, like, all-out brawls have been happening. That wasn't a brawl. I said they have been happening, right? Maybe not that game, for sure, but, I mean, what's your take on that, Tim? Listen, you know, the individuals and the teams, like I said, that can control their emotions.

I always say that, you know, coaches always say, man, play with emotion. Well, which emotion you want me to play with. You know, your emotion that gets you going may be different than my emotion, maybe different than Andrews, everybody's got the different. So when you say, you know, play with emotion, all right, play with understanding, control your emotion. Because here's the thing. As an opponent, my job not only is to win the game, but also make you lose your emotion, take you out of your game.

That's why a lot of athletes talk trash to each other to see who can, you know, if they can take, if they can set up shop, if they can set up shop in their head. All right. Things are going to happen on, on the court. M.J. used to always say, MJ used to always say this. He says, he goes, I know the

opponent is going to do anything that they can to get me thrown out of the game. There's videos of him, Lily, pulling his fist back, and there's at the last one, putting it down. Because he knows if he throws that punch, they won.

yeah and then it's six games without them right they they they how long the the the injections are yeah well back and back and back back back in that day no but now right now yeah you throw you throw you throw you throw a punch listen part of part of winning part of team it is understanding what your emotion what your emotion what your emotions are and figuring out how to control them you know listen and control your thoughts you control your emotions you control your you can control your emotions you're literally going to control the outcome of the game i think you say it on something too that's like a big a big thing that i think people i probably shouldn't even say this because

most people aren't equipped to do this effectively but the best The best guys, the best entrepreneurs, the best business leaders, the best fucking athletes, they understand the game of distraction very well. Very well. They understand that when they say certain things or when they post certain things or when they do certain things, they understand what it does to the opponent, and they're doing it intentionally. And that's something, you know, like only. like the top top top people understand that as part of their game yeah you know what I mean

you know attack them physically attack them mentally oh yeah oh yeah that's what it listen you find out like dude when I find out that something annoys somebody that I want to beat I will annoy the fuck that's what you're supposed to do yeah that that that that's what that's what that's what you're supposed to do the only time someone can get into your head is when you're not there dude one of the best ways in today's world to beat your competition is legitimately to make them fucking hate you so bad that they can't concentrate on what the fuck they're doing yeah yeah yeah yeah should that have been in an ejection should that have been in the objection no bro listen if the w nba wants to up viewership fucking fight oh i'm i'm being dead serious dude like

you all can't fucking make all the buckets so you know you can't dunk you know like some of you can but you know and you want to get paid more money well pay more money means more eyeballs watching the sport let them rip yeah throw some blows the biggest thing that happened in the NBA at WMBA this year was Sophie Cunningham fucking sticking up for Caitlin Clark and dude what was that that was physicality you know what I'm saying yeah physicality works for eyeballs i'd be watching more games if there was more fights would you know i'd watch a game how much one more game that's more than zero

yeah man i don't i think i think i what madat you know it's fucking true listen i will give the wm bays some from a skill standpoint yeah they're amazing yeah like dribbling passing footwork the footwork passing it's absolutely if you are a young

basketball player and you want to learn footwork moving without the ball being able to dribble coming off of screens shooting all this all this other stuff watch

the W NBA watch bro with a fair statement they're technically better players And there are some NBA players that will admit that say, listen, I watch them religiously to watch how they, you know, therefore, because, you know, obviously they're not as, they're not as athletic as all NBA players. Some NBA players are more athletic than some of the NBA players. So their skill set has to be better. It just has to be better.

And I will say this, too. We talk a lot of shit because it's fun and games and jokes, okay? But here's the truth. This is the truth. All right. It may not be as exciting to watch. And the reason it's not as exciting to watch is because we don't recognize the names. All right.

They're not. But the main reason is because the game of men's basketball has evolved to, like, people don't appreciate the fundamentals anymore. They want to see the amazing shit. They want to see a dude jump from the free. Well, Michael started it from the free throw line to the fucking, you know, hoop. They want to see all that shit. And they want to see like dudes just dunking right on top of each other.

And you can't get that in the WMBA. And so people will say, well, it's not as exciting to watch. But if you, and it isn't because of that. That's the reality. But the framework of what's considered good basketball has changed over the last 30 years. So women aren't capable of doing that part of the game. which it's then considered to be inferior basketball. But I can tell you this, dude,

I went to Southwest Missouri State before it was Missouri State. And there was a girl there, and you're going to know who it is, Jackie Stiles, who was the greatest athlete that I've ever seen personally in my life. And I've never seen anybody work harder either. I've never seen somebody work harder or be better than her at her thing. And, you know, Caitlin Clark just passed her up on the sport.

but like dude she would practice with the men and we had a sweet 16 men's team then she would practice with the men the men could not fucking touch her dude so there's a lot of truth to that but at the end of the day eyeballs equal paychecks

and they're not getting them and they got to figure out a way to get them that's real man guys jumping on this guy it's a fight it's a fight it's go back to the thing that DJ had pulled up about the kid doing the splits yeah

We don't know if they won the game, if they lost the game. Yeah. But that's, you know, people watch it. People watch it because of the, because of the, because of the, because of the, because of the, because of the eyeballs. And that's what social media, social media does. You know, it's just like everybody posts that one, one play that everybody goes, ooh, they want that, they want that, they want that aha moment, all right, instead of the end result. You can have the aha moment and have the end result, but most people, will they stop at the aha moment. moment that's real man guys jumping on this conversation let us know down to the comments

what you guys think uh with that being said let's get to our last final segment of the show guys as always we have thumbs up we're dumb as fuck we bring a headline in we talk about it we vote on it it gets one of those two options and so since we got tim grover um who loves winning we have Andy who also loves winning but you love animals thought we have a little bit of both here winning and animals winning and animals okay so our thumbs up

at dumbest fuck headline reads Texas boys heartwarming moment with prize winning goat at animal show goes viral

this thing come from like India or anything did it Texas Texas Texas not not not indie

Zishon give you some messed up licks man yeah let's dive into this man A bleat-taking duo, a five-year-old boy in Texas has captured hearts after he was filmed joyfully showering his prize-winning goat with hugs and kisses after placing fourth in a local animal show. The heartwarming video, which has gone at more than six million views on Instagram shows Milo Garza beaming at his yellow ribbon before hugging his white and brown pet goat teddy bear and smothering him with love at the Capadres, Cabrito's, goat and lamb show in Kingsville on June 22nd. Let's check this clip out. As we zoom in on this goat showing in Kingsville, Texas, meet five-year-old Milo Garza,

staring at his yellow ribbon. Just look at that face, over the moon about winning fourth place, even kissing his little goat, teddy bear, and hugging him tightly. We had to know the story behind this video. Hello, goats. Milo and his mom Elizabeth telling the how it all went down. It turns out the whole Garza family loves goats. We see them and we worked them and we walked them. We give them water. But Milo was actually filling in for his big brother. So this was Milo's moment and he knew teddy bear was one special goat. Milo, if you can just tell me what's one great thing about teddy bear?

His legs. What about his legs? They're fat. One of the secrets of goat showing from the new kid on the block. His mom's saying Milo's been working hard and that moment captured on video, the joy of competition for a... Yeah. What we got for a little Milo here?

You're going to celebrate fourth like that? You fucking loser. Who are your parents? I thought I'd get it before 10 minutes. find a new hobby you ain't got it kid fuck your goat oh come on man that's cute it's cute it is

listen you look the hard work that was put in the hard work the love the joy the whole families everybody's everybody's involved in this thing and listen he's happy he's happy one fourth and then hopefully this drives him you know

to get the goat or whatever it takes to move the goat up into third place, second place for first plate. What's it takes, Ishaun? What's it take, bro? What are the secrets? Lifting 3.A.A. You know, hey, it's a same situation that we all have, when you go lift, we all got to work on our legs.

Yeah. Well, I love his legs. Why do you love them? Because they're fat. He's going to grow up. You know what kind of girls? He's going to lie. He's going to grow up going for those fucking the ones that pay your taxes.

Oh. Bro, that's cute, man. You got to love. Look, Zisha and I talk about this all the time, dude. Goats? Yeah, we do. We talk about this. God favors people that take care of it.

and treat animals good. I believe that. I've seen that over and over and over again in my life. I believe that if you treat innocent creatures well, good things happen to you. I just believe it. And it's cool to see. It's cool.

I don't know. I like it. It's cool. He's happy. He loves his little goat. The goat loves him. It's all good. And he's working.

He carries him, walks him. Like you said, it's a genuine thing. He does. he does get the whole family cares like this is this is our thing you know goats goats are our thing listen you started raising ducks yeah you know and everybody's like oh dude how how weird is that's weird i'm like bro if you were around them you don't understand they're like little people they're pretty cool yeah they got little personalities like dogs dude your wife was telling us you're just like yeah they all have their own little personalities male female they do the things

and yeah it's just like you don't Don't vilify something you don't understand, man. If you say, there's a reason behind it. You know, we all in here have lost, now I can't speak for these guys here, but I know you, me, Sherry, DJ, I'm sure. They have lost an animal that's been like, man, that pain does not. No, it never goes away.

It doesn't go away. I lost what my dog, and I say this. my best friend not my not my dog best friend my best friend yeah that shit hurts yeah man yeah and there's nothing you could say to someone who's going through it to make it any better it sucks it's like i want to say like i was just reading online today one of a guy i knew who lost his dog and i wanted to like you can't there's nothing you can say there's something you can say yeah like it's just like fuck dude that sucks i'm sorry yeah like we all kind of know what that's like so yeah i like this this thumbs up thumbs up from my this is a good little dude right here

two thumbs no go get fucking better milo yeah next time it's first place we're eating your goat we're going to eat your fucking goat yeah it's real we're gonna have goat kebabs well guys andy tim that's all i got yeah tim great to see you bro thank you so much for coming in my pleasure man thank you for inviting me into your home as always man i like i said i did a couple videos in the lock the locker room it's just this is not a this is not a place this is an experience man and every time you guys I come here the experience continues to get better and better and I cannot say how proud I am of the whole for sale of family and everybody that works here and I know the next time I come

It's going to be even better. The next time I come, it's going to be, that's even going to be better. It's, you've, you guys have developed a standard here. And I go around and check, you know, I, listen, you don't know about this place. It is freaking, one, it's beautiful and it's freaking spotless. It is spotless.

I mean, it is. Tim comes through with his white glove, man. Oh, I do. Listen, I walk through the bathrooms. I don't tell people Tim's coming in. dude i look in i look at see how engaged employees are everything in here because you know sometimes when you come in and you're gone for a while and everybody wants to see has a standard been raised has the bar has the bar been has a bar been elevated and every time i come in here i'm

never i'm not i'm not i'm never disappointed i'm never disappointed thank you guys treating me as family better than family and then like I said I this is this is a whole this is a place a very special place for me because I've seen it from where it was to where it's gone and I've seen the way you guys have evolved to I've seen DJ you've grown into this individual Andy I continue to watch you continue to watch you progress you know through everything

through the trial tribulations everything goes on and watch Sal and the family and just it's it's a joyous occasion to watch winners continue to win well wouldn't be here without you bro that's real shit that is real shit

so all right guys well that is the show don't be a ho share the show we're sleeping on the flow now my jury box froze fuck a bull fuck a stole

counting millions in a cold bad bitch booted swow got her on bank row can't fold does a no head shot case closed