REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 947. Q&AF: Navigating The Fear Of Uncertainty, Anxiety About Getting Older & Restoring Your Hunger

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

On today’s episode, Andy answers live call-in questions on how to face uncertainty when life moves fast, managing the fear of aging while chasing new goals, and how to reignite ambition when your drive starts fading.

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It's a really great episode I fucking love these guys Yeah Help us out man yeah if you that's how we grow man we're growers not showers that's right so what's happening dude what's going on man nothing man yeah you know it's a funny thing like they say when you like somebody you start modeling their mannerisms a little bit i just caught myself like him over here yeah i don't know why i do that bro what cross your arm yeah it's just

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I'm learning that lesson. But, no, man, it's Q&AF. We got some really, really good questions lined up. And let's make some people better today. Let's do it. Let's do it. We're going to kick things off. Let's kick them off.

With the phone call. Let's kick them off with a phone call. Let's kick it off. Let's give Riley a call. Riley. Hello Well is Riley Yes sir is this DJ

This is DJ how's you doing man I'm doing great man I'm doing you know I'm chilling man thanks for asking bro I appreciate that man no one cares bro Okay absolutely Riley what's happening bro How are you dude I'm doing great man it's the next It's excellent to speak

Thank you, sir. All right, bro. Just, I appreciate you. Where are you at, man? I'm in Austin, Texas. Oh, we fucking love Austin. Austin's a great place. Yeah.

What are you doing down there, brother? Right now, I'm in between classes at school. No, I meant, what are you doing? What are you doing? Oh, what am I doing down there? Yeah. I'm a musician. All right, cool.

Cool. What do you play? Drums. Oh, that's badass, man. That's badass. It's a fucking hard instrument to play. Yeah. How long have you been playing drums, brother?

A little over 13 years now. Oh, man, that's awesome. That's awesome. Well, bro, what are you got going on down there? What can we help you with? Yeah, so... All right. Here we go.

The question I asked was, I'm a musician in Austin. I play in a band that is developing strong momentum. things are coming together fast. There's a part of me that doesn't trust how fast things are moving. How do you handle situations where crash and burns seems inevitable? And so when I

sent in that question, that was a few months ago at the beginning of summer, if I'm not mistaken. So a lot has changed since then. And there was a lot of

uncertainty and lack of faith in the process with the situation I was in. And it just felt like it would fall apart or it would stay together. Yeah. And what happened? Well, we went through a lineup change and kind of took care of itself. and but now I'm I'm with the right people I have my brothers and we're building something that is that I know is going to change music and change American culture good and if I can I feel I can trust the process more but even so we're even in a position now where things are still moving

fast and there's that uncertainty especially when you're working as an independent musician and there's not we don't you know there's no record label there's our team is very small we're just getting started and the way things are picking up there's that that fear of the uncertainty where you don't know what's going to happen and I can only control the things I can and I surrender to the things I can't. So trying to trust the process and understand that

it'll work out however it works out is tough because I want I like to be able to you know, have that security but right no the line of work that I'm in that's that's not really what I got myself into right totally bro um look how old are you man I'm 24 okay so this is the first time in your life where you've truly caught positive momentum is that correct yes sir okay so dude

first of all congratulations on that most people never even get to that point, all right? What I want you to hear from me today is that that's normal, okay, when you've never experienced something, and I want you to think about it in different context, okay, let's take away the momentum you're creating with your business, and let's just apply it to a different area of life. Let's say you're going to go on a trip, okay, and you don't have everything planned, but you know that when you go there, you want to kind of do this or that and you have a loose idea of how it's going to go and you go on the trip and before you go you get really anxious I don't know about you but I get travel anxiety sometimes and you start to think

about like oh man I wonder if this is going to go the way I want and this and this and this because you've never done it before bro and then once you go on the trip and you've been around that place once or twice now instead of like wondering how it's going to go you're like oh I can't wait I'm going to go to this place. I'm going to go to that place. I'm going to see my friends here. I'm going to go eat here. And you have a much more comfortable understanding of what to expect. And so that's what's happening with you just in a different area of life. You've never experienced this. You've created something that you want to create. So there's an emotional attachment to it. And then we have this, we have this part of us, all of us have this, that sort of like puts

doubts in our head and makes us kind of, you know, hesitate and, you know, anxious and scared. And the good thing about you is that in the face of that, and this is really cool because you wrote this question, you saw what happened and now we're talking about it. But you felt that coming, bro, and you kept moving. And that is the key. You've learned a massive lesson here, brother. The lesson is, is that anything that you do, if you haven't been down the path before, is going to feel very uncertain. You're going to have doubts. You're going to have anxiety. And if you keep moving, like you said, the things will work themselves out. And if you control what you control and then surrender to the rest, things will move the way that you want to move. The

problem that most people run into is that they don't control any of the things they can control and then they expect to get where they're wanting to go and it's just pure chaos it never happens and that's why so many people have this idea that success you know pursuing success is this massive risk when in reality the risk is not pursuing it right um so it's you know i know you've already figured this out but i think it's very important for the listeners to hear this is that when you don't know what to do, just keep moving forward and figure it out one decision at a time. Okay. You handle today.

You handle tomorrow. You handle the next day. And if you do that the best that you can, things tend to work out in the direction that we're trying to get. And I would chalk this up, brother, as a very valuable life lesson because I could tell you as someone who's 20 years older than you, you're going to run into this. this many times, okay, when you launch a new album, when you move from doing little clubs to medium clubs, to big clubs, to stadiums, like these are all new things and this process of uncertainty is going to repeat itself in your life over and over and over again. You know,

when you get married, you're going to feel this way. When you start to have kids, you're probably going to feel this way. It's just a very natural feeling that we as humans have about never being down the path before and the the problem is is that most people just stop when they start to feel that way and you've already shown that you have the innate understanding to keep moving and then just handle it as it goes so it's very important for everybody to listen to what riley just went through because this is a situation that is not exclusive to riley it's exclusive to any of us anytime that we do something new all right so i can give you examples of that in my life you know when for example you know we our big initiative right now is is uh the energy drink well i mean

fuck bro like i've never done this before like i have doubts and i'm nervous and and i've got anxiety about those things but how i respond to those after being in this game so long is to push hard to make sure to like do everything i can and i take all of those uncertainty feelings and all of this anxiety and all of these things that, you know, would normally derail people. And I use that and funnel that energy into doing every single thing that I can to make sure that the outcome is most likely the one that I'm after. And that's all we can do, brother. That's all we can do.

Yeah, we keep getting better. We handle what we handle. We push, we push, we push. And the outcome is going to be somewhere better than where we are now. And even if it takes longer for you to get where you want to go than what you think, that's okay. Because you go down, you know, and whatever outcome is produced,

you then set that the new base point. And this is another place that people quit. People will see a project through and it didn't turn out the way that they want. And even though they saw the project through, they don't realize that they're not through. This is just another place for us to regather collect where we are and then go again and so it's the constant process of pushing through the uncertainty

seeing where we end up evaluating that then deciding where we want to go from here and making a new plan and going again and every time you go again that same feeling that you have riley is going to occur so the best thing that we as humans can do is to use that feeling of uncertainty doubt anxiety about things not working out and then channel that energy into making sure that we do the most that we can to dictate the proper outcome. And I can tell you, dude, like when I started out on this journey of, you know, pursuing entrepreneurship and becoming successful and all these things, bro, I mean, I thought it was fucking magic too. Like I thought it was, I thought it was out of my control. I thought it was, um, you know, I thought there was luck involved. I thought there

was, you know, divine intervention, and there probably is some divine intervention, but. Oh, I believe that for sure. Yeah. But at the end of the day, dude, if we handle what we can handle, the chances of us not being in a better spot are almost zero. And then we just have to choose to keep going, brother. Well, it's interesting because in late December of 22, so I'm originally from Utah. I moved here November 1st of 21 and in a year goes by in December of 22, my back goes out. I have a torn disc in my L5S1. I have I spend the next six weeks like getting myself to be able to walk comfortably again. I can't reach past my knees. It, it, that was a huge test to really see just if if I had the fortitude and capabilities to keep moving forward because especially

you know as a musician and a drummer I'm dependent on my body and so being able to work through that and I can now I can reach past my toes I've put in a ton of work to it to really focus on my mobility and keep my body in check. I do 75 hard every single year. I'm on it right now. It taught me a lot, and I was really able to at least trust in myself and know that, well, I'm going to figure this shit out one way or another. And so when that happened over this, excuse me, this summer, and I was able to see also,

And I knew that I would be able to rely on my team and my brothers was because they also kept showing up. And we kept showing up for each other. And we never gave in. We thought we were done for. We thought we were going to have to start over from square one. But we, they're, you know, the show is really F. And I try, I call myself a realist, I try and, uh, operate in reality. But there is an element to this where, uh, that is a bit of that idealistic fantasy of where

like the, the future that I'm working towards doesn't exist yet. And so I have to force myself to believe that it does exist and that I don't have an option. And so I, I twist that and use that and put that into the daily actions. and I can only just look at the results and know, yeah, my back went out and I handled it. Yes. I now am in better shape than I've ever been. Yeah. And that's badass shit, dude.

Dude, people who haven't been through a major injury don't understand how much of a test that really is. Like, I'm following you, bro. You should be very proud of that. That's some badass shit. You should be trusting yourself at a high level at this point. Thank you. And I think that I think that's the biggest part that I fight myself over is because I am able to look back and say, oh, I've done this and this.

I've dropped my own E.P. I've dropped a live album. I've done these great things that me five years ago would have been stunned. He wouldn't have believed it would happen, but it has. I'm not even, like, this is just the beginning. That's right, dude. And so I, like, I think it's the level of the standard where I try and bring myself and ground myself to be like, you're not, like, you, I try and hold myself accountable so to make sure I am doing enough,

but not get too, like, I guess, drive myself crazy where it's, you know, like it's never enough. I have to be able to. actually trust that what I am doing is actually something because I'm very hard on myself and especially with my like my back still gives me problems and so on 75 hard I'll I'll be mad at myself if I can't do as an extreme a workout as I want to but I have to focus on keeping my body in check this isn't about breaking myself this is about keeping myself in the best physical condition for what I do. It's about training your body and your mind, brother, 100%.

Yeah. Listen, dude, from what I'm hearing, dude, I would go to fucking war with you. I mean, look, you've been through some difficult shit. You're doing something that where you feel like right now, there's no guarantee. But I can promise you, dude, if you continue to show up the way that you're going and and you think about it the way that you're thinking about it and you're operating the way that you're operating, you will get where you're trying to go, all right? And there's been a lot of other people.

I don't have a choice. That's right. And by the way, bro, and I say this all the time, people laugh. But like, we need heroes, dude. We need stories. We need people that are going to fucking build an amazing rock band out of an idea. We need people who are going to build amazing companies. We need people to show the younger generation what those things look like.

And so, dude, not only, like, you're fucking doing it, dude. Like, it's not that it's going to happen. It's happening right now. And, yeah. And, and dude, it's hilarious. I have a, I have a class, a required class. Hold on, hold on. I want to tell you something.

Sorry. This is very important for you to hear. I spent a lot of my life wondering and working so fucking hard, wondering if I was ever going to fucking make it, dude. and I was so serious and so dedicated to it that it cost me a lot that it didn't have to cost me, okay? And you need to understand. There is no magic to this, bro.

You are executing. It is happening right now. I'm looking at pictures. DJ's throwing pictures of your Instagram up here. You're doing it. And I had a friend one time I drew up my plan on what I was going to do in business and I was dude it was almost it's crazy because like he was my age and I was your age and I drew up I said this is gonna this is what I'm

trying to do and this and that is his advice or his response was fucking the exact same I'm telling you he's like dude you're doing it but I didn't believe him at the time I was like no it still could not happen it might not happen to and I kept working but the point that I want you to hear is that you have to understand, bro, this will happen for you if you do the work. And I don't want you to spend the next 10 or 5 or 20 years so concerned about it not happening and not enjoying what you're doing. Because I'm going to tell you, dude, the building of the process is the fun part. It's not getting there. It's the building of it. it's it's you doing photo shoots and performances in this cool gas station that I'm looking at

it's you doing it's you playing in front of you know yeah a few hundred people and then you know five 10 years from now you're paying playing in front of a hundred thousand you know so I my point is brother is you're fucking doing it and I I want you to enjoy this as you do it That's my point. My mom always tells me, don't rob yourself the joy of living. Yeah. And you can work very hard and be dedicated and still have that. Bro, by the way, I'm looking at this photo that you posted on July 23rd of 23,

where you guys are like doing that set in the gas station. That's fucking, that goes hard as fuck. That's pretty fucking sick. That's fucking that's badass. I was pretty fucking sick Thank you man Yeah brother Listen man

I've really enjoyed this conversation man And I think it's going to be very valuable to people That are coming up and chasing a dream just like you And That dream that you're fucking building bro Do not give up on it Do not give up on it People don't take it like you're taking it

They don't systematically take it seriously They go they play they think they might make it They party their fucking balls off you will make it if you keep going dude you will fucking make it so just keep going brother yeah love it man thank you man yeah i uh i will say i the thing that keeps me going and knowing that like it is going to happen yeah is this is my purpose and fulfillment this is what i'm put on this earth to do and with the the fucking insanity of what is happening in the world that uh that little voice in my head will question and say

like man you're just being musician playing music when they're with everything happening but i'm like no what i do has purpose and value massive purpose it's massive purpose bro music is one of the most important impactful forms of human relation like fuck dude revolutions have started because of music that's the truth the language we all speak yeah absolutely brother and thank you so much i i can't tell you how much you've impacted my life my uh i'll give a shout out to my cousin derrick bowler for turning me on to you in 2018 i've been listening ever since and it is really shaped my mentality my approach to life it gave me permission to to go hard and get after it and really shape my life into

what it is because i i am doing it i i do feel that and it's it's only level i'm only leveling up yeah a hundred percent dude you're 24 dude you're going to be a fucking legend if you keep going real talk that's real bro so that's real man riley do Dude, we appreciate you, bro. Yeah, DJ, shoot me his stuff so I can follow them. I got you doing it right now. Right, we appreciate it, bro. We're going to stay followed on you, man.

I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you, DJ. Thank you to the team, everybody. And I will promise you this. I will play Summer Smash. Dude, I believe it, bro. And also, when we come to Austin, bro,

we'll have to get a bite to eat or something. Yes, absolutely, man. I would love that. We'll hit you up, brother. Dude, hey, Riley. Sounds good. Brother, just so you know, you're the fucking reason I do this shit.

Like, this is the reason I do this shit. So this is very cool for me too, brother. It means a lot. Thank you. Yeah. I wear that bison with pride. I know you do. I see it.

I'm watching it right now. All right, brother. We'll talk to you soon, Riley. Thanks, bro. Hey, y'all have a great day. Thank you so much. You too. Fuck, that's awesome.

That's fucking cool, man. Bro, I fucking love that. That's fucking cool. I love that. That's fucking sick. Dude, it's the best shit ever. You know, and I was, you know what's cool about it, dude? Is like, it's outside the realm of what most people think that we talk about here.

You know what I'm saying? Pursuing a dream, like, we could, we could substitute entrepreneur for the dream, right? Like, it's the same shit. It doesn't matter if you're a fucking artist or an, or, you know, organizer or you know what I'm saying it's it's excellence in your life correct whatever that it is whatever that is bro i think it's fucking sick one of the things who i thought was really interesting i want to expand more on this combo you know but i know you have mentioned you know the road the path of success being like that that hockey stick oh yeah you know and he mentioned like hey

things are kind of moving quick right and i i don't think this is something we've dove into but when you get that hockey stick that in that people talk about shit starts moving really quick A lot of things start happening. How do you process that piece of it? When you go for so long and there's nothing, you fucking hang the fuck on, bro. Yeah. Is that what it is?

Yeah. You hang the fuck on and hope that you don't make a fatal mistake, which, dude, the truth is there's very few fatal mistakes unless you're actually dead. You know what I mean? The rest of it just becomes a fucking part of the story. Yeah. So, you know, I think people, people, you know,

when you're young, dude, and, you know, you haven't really done anything yet. you're trying to do something people get terrified of fucking it up and that costs them so much anxiety and so much you know stress but at the end of the day bro the truth of the matter is there's very few things that you can't fuck up that you can't make an amazing part of a story from you know what I mean so these lessons that you mess up along the way end up becoming the things that give you the skills to win at a higher level and um you just have to possess the resilience to take those hits and take those losses and appreciate

them. You know, and I did a post on this yesterday, I believe, about gratitude. You know, it's easy to have gratitude when things are going well, right? And it's easy to be grateful when everything's good. But the trick of gratitude is that it's most important when things aren't good. It's most important when things are falling apart, to be able to say, hey, I'm thankful to be in this position because not only am I going to learn a lot, but I have this tremendous opportunity to overcome this, which is only going to make me stronger, better, and more skilled at what I do. And I'm in a position and things may not be going well right now, but I'm still in a very, very good position compared to a lot of people in the world. You know, there's a lot of people who are sick. There's a lot of

people who are going to die today, you know, there's a lot of people who, you know, they're never going to have the opportunity even come back from what I have. You know, those, that's when gratitude really matters, bro. And so, you know, when we put it all together, man, at the end of the day, it's, we're all very fortunate to have the opportunity to build, create, become things. And it's very sad to me that people abandon that opportunity because it's hard, right? What the fuck do you want to do, bro? You want to be, you just want to sit on your couch all day?

Like, that's what you want your life to be? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's not a real life. It's supposed to be hard. Well, it's going to be hard regardless. Yeah, but it's, but it, like this whole, I was talking to a friend this morning, bro. This whole instant gratification, sales, internet guru, nonsense.

It, dude, it poisons people. mind and it fucks up their their understanding of what it really takes to succeed and it does way more harm than good because you have all these people who hear these people talk who appear to be credible and then they go on the real world and they experience something completely different that's much harder much more difficult and then they say well fuck I'm I guess it's just not for me no it's it's not that it's not for you it's that you relied to about what the process actually is and that really hurts young people especially today you know one of the biggest advantages that i had is that i didn't have that you know that's the

biggest advantage isn't that crazy yeah the biggest advantage that i had was that i didn't have seven thousand people a day telling me how i was going to get rich quick that that was fucking because there was none of that shit so you know it's hard it's really aggravating because what these gurus sell people and real talk dude you should not buy anything from anybody that hasn't that cannot actually show you their business their product their service and and that it's outside of info period if you if you fucking only sell info and that's all they sell you should not buy anything they they fucking sell period I don't care who the fuck it is so it's a it's a good rule of thumb and dude that's 99% of these people like you guys signing up to go sit in some

fucking retard's living room and fucking have him draw on a fucking piece of paper because he's got a Lamborghini, you're a fucking idiot. You deserve to lose your money. Real talk. Like, I don't know what to, I don't know what to... It's like the first lesson of business. Yeah. I don't know what to

fucking tell you. Like, yeah, man. I love it, dude. I love it. I got another question, man. Let's keep moving. We got a question for Andy. Andy. I recently turned 40. And for the first time, I feel anxious about getting older. I worry about missed opportunities, lost time,

and whether I've done enough with my life. I know aging is inevitable, but I want to embrace it instead of fearing it. Is there a way I can shift my perspective and see growing older as something to celebrate rather than something to fear and avoid? I mean, there's a lot of things that we could talk about here. Number one, 40's really not old like it used to be.

I mean, people are in shape, people are healthy. They're taking care of themselves. You know, we're moving into the first generation of 40 to 50 year olds that have been training since they were 18 with weights and eating a proper diet. And so, you know, most of the people that I know that are in their 40s are actually in better shape than people that are in their 20s because they're taking it more serious. So I actually don't see it as like that kind of aging. So that's a good thing. I think another good thing, is that if you haven't spent the last 20 years building something, the technology exists today where you can build something much faster than what it would take someone who started 20 years ago. That's a great thing. I don't think there's any amount of, quote unquote, bad things that happen when you get older

other than having regrets about time wasted. And as someone who really didn't waste that much time, you know I still have that same feeling like I'm like fuck I could have done more I could have done more I could have done more and I think that's a feeling that anybody who has ambition is going to always feel um you know I don't know I feel like I keep getting better looking like I think there's a lot of good things about getting in your 40s bro um might take a little longer out the bed but you know yeah yeah yeah that's a negative thing yeah but no one can see that. Yeah, right. No one can see how sore I am. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I think, I think

this is a great period of time for people who are entering their 40s or in their 40s who do have regret about how they lived their life previously to change those things and not waste 20 years having to change them. You know, it used to be if you fucked off during your 20s and 30s and you turned 40 there was no chance you know because all the relationships were made all the business was done you know my dad used to tell me he's like people people build their relationships and they make their money in their 30s and after that if you don't do that you're you can't because no one wants to fuck with a dude who's 50 years old just starting out it's just the way it is yeah um but there's always exceptions to that there's tremendous stories you know um

Fuck, you go up and down the chain. You know, Sam Walton didn't start until he was in 40s. KFC didn't start until he was in the 60s. And there's a million stories in between of iconic men and women who built amazing things that were over the age of 40 years old. So I think a lot of what we deal with is just, you know, I think it's just natural regret, you know, of things that we could have should or would have done. But at the end of the day, you can't change those. You've got to accept them for what they are. accept what you learn from them and then apply them moving forward and the good news is that you have

plenty of time to still do whatever it is you're trying to do and i think 40 has never been as young as it is right now and and that's that's the truth um now if you're fucking out of shape i don't know what this person looks like if you're fucking fat and you're out of shape and you're unhealthy you're going to feel like you're 60 um and it does let that don't shrink the time at 30 fucking six years old I was 350 fucking pounds, bro. And I looked older then than I do now, okay? 10 years older. I'm 10 years older now than I was then, and I look older then.

Having your physical and your mental tuned in at 40 in your 40s is an amazing thing. And if you don't do it, you're going to feel significantly older and look significantly little. I see people that I went to high school with, and no offense to anybody that might be listening, but some of you all look like shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not taking care of yourselves. You're still drinking beer every day. You're still not eating the right shit.

And anybody can tell. And if that's how they want to live, that's okay. But most of them don't. And so I think it's very important to understand that if you don't take care of those things, your quality of life is going to be terrible. And if you do take care of those things, it's going to be amazing. Like, bro, you know, people think, oh, 40, my youth is over. Well, dude, I know dudes that fucking Keanu Reeves is 63 years old.

I mean it's Kenna Reeves You know what I'm saying Pretty bad ass Yeah Like what the fuck are we talking about bro You can live a quality life And do things at any age bro

And um Just gotta go Yeah you just got to quit telling yourself That stupid story of Oh I'm too old You're not fucking too old Dude People tell themselves

These two stories that cost them everything You know what the stories are I'm too young And I'm too old Those are the two stories That cost everybody fucking everything okay because they when they're 19 and they're 20 they don't want to start because they're too young nobody will take them serious then you know when they're 30 they're like oh well you know i'm i don't

know like i probably should have started that already you know but i didn't then when they're 40 they're too old so at what time is the appropriate time there right the appropriate time was 20 years ago you know what the next best time is right fucking now okay so that's the reality. If you tell yourself you're too old, you're never going to be shit. If you tell yourself you're too young, you're never going to be shit. If you look at reality, there's plenty of people that are much younger than you that have been far more successful. And there's plenty of people who have started at an older age and become icons. So why do you continue to tell yourself the story that obviously there's plenty of evidence that shows that it's not true? That doesn't make

any sense. So we just got to start telling ourselves the truth. The truth is this. You can be a bad motherfucker in your 40s if you want to the rock made most of his fucking career in his 40s he made most of his money in his 40s i would say he probably looked his best in his 40s i think anybody would agree with that i mean dude there's there's a gazillion examples of this so it's just you got to quit lying to yourself bro you're not a fucking old you're you're you're old enough to know that it's time to get going and fucking go i love it bro yeah i love it Hello. Jason.

Yes, can hear me? Yeah, what's going on, man? This is DJ. What's going on, man? How are you doing, DJ? I'm good. How are you? Doing amazing and cannot complain.

What time is it up? We got an international caller, guys. We're calling Sweden. It's like 1 a.m. there? Is it 1 a.m. there? No, no, it's like almost going to be at 11 p.m. Oh, that's been late. All right. Yeah, all right. Well, what's going on, man? How can we help? We got Andy here. What's going on? What's up, Jason? How are you, bro? Doing good, man. How are doing? Doing really good. What's going on across the pond over there? Yeah, I'm just dropping up a long work day. But, yeah, I wanted to call because, like, right now, just kind of give some back story. At the moment, like I'm 19, and I went into business, like, when I was 16, and there's been, like, a lot of ups and downs this year.

But I feel like every time that things, I stabilize and get better, like, I just tremble or, like, fall on once again, and I have to, like, work my way up and just, like, keeps going up and down. Right now, I'm at a point where, like, I work pretty hard and kind of stabilized. I feel like I'm less hungry for success than I was before. So I want to see, like, what is that, it's like a mindset shift I have to make, or what do you think? Okay, a couple questions. When you say that you're going up and down, is it, are you saying like, you're taking like three steps forward and then one step backwards? Yeah, correct. Okay.

It's kind of like that. Okay. So you are, you are leveling up. at a hot you were creating a new base every time this happens correct no no like previously what's happened is now I've been like stable um but it feels like I'm still like not growing but previously what happened was that I went up and I went completely to shit okay destroy it okay but now I've like kept it but I feel like now when I'm at this point I'm less hungry for success than I was before like

previously okay and you're 19 yeah correct all right cool uh first of all you need to erase this idea that you're successful out of your brain you're 19 years old it costs a immense amount of success to live a comfortable lifestyle it's whatever you think it is that you need to be earning you probably need to be earning 10 times that amount that's just the reality for a number of reasons. One, things cost more than, than you think. Two, the money is always becoming less valuable. Three, we're going to be alive for a long time. So the first thing that I've got to tell you is that your goal has to be expanded tremendously to restore that hunger that you are looking to restore. Hunger happens when we have a lot of distance to cover between where we are,

and where we're trying to go when we get to a place of comfortable or close to where we think we want to be it is a natural thing for us to feel comfortable and complacent and to not feel as hungry and the solution to that is going to be you expanding your goals and vision for yourself to a much bigger place now jason you may not be a guy who wants to have you know uh helicopters and fucking Bugatti's and shit. I don't know. Are you? Yeah, of course.

Okay, well, then bro. Good, because you're going to have to make a lot of more fucking money than you're making now, all right? So where is that place that you need to be in order for you to have those things? And then you have to account for all of your friends and all of your family and your future family and what you want their lifestyle to be and how you want to take care of them and this is a big mistake that a lot of young people make they set their goals for themselves not realizing that one it's going to take a lot more money than what you think number two you're going to have

other obligations come across your life that you don't currently have you're probably going to meet someone you're probably going to have a family your family that you have now your mom your dad your brother your sister some of somebody's going to get sick you know there's going to be things that happen and so when we're young and I'm very this is one of the things I did right this is something I always thought about and even though I never had kids I always thought that I was going to so I always based my goal around how I wanted to have my family be even when I was 20 years old. And because of that, you know, I've built a very big life, especially for my age. Most of the people that have something of this size are 75 years old at the end of their

life. But because I thought about it the right way where you still have this opportunity to think about it, I was able to create something that was able to accomplish all of that. And so if you want to be hungry, dude, you got to set bigger goals. You got to set a bigger plan. You got to say, all right, this is where I want to be 10 years from now, 20 years from now, not just one year from now or two years from now. And then we work backwards and create a system to make that reality. That is the, that's the big thing to restore hunger.

You got to be real. And dude, you know, sometimes, you know, at 19 years old, we don't have the capacity. or the understanding of how life's going to play out so but you have to take it for people that have been down the path bro you got to make so much more money than what you think dude and what society tells us we need is just not the truth um for ambitious people that want to be financially free and successful in a real way secondly after all of that um the up and down situation can be one of a couple things, okay? There is a natural progression that goes three steps or two steps forward, one step back

or three steps forward, one step back. That's pretty normal. You know, in business, typically what I try to, what I've experienced and what I've tried to coach people on is that it's usually about three years. Once you get, once you get the run up going, you'll have about three years. years and then you'll have a flat ear or two where you have to regroup and then you'll go on another run and so the pattern if you could visualize it it sort of you know goes up then it gets flat then it goes up then it gets flat and that's normal um so so don't put too much into uh obsessing

over you know that you know you go hard and then regress a little bit if that's what's going on now there's another thing that happens that you that may or may not be happening here only you will know but you you know uh jason you know what a bell curve is right yeah it's like the thing when it goes up and down there you go okay so i want you to visualize a bell curve all right and you're at the front of the bell curve on the left hand side and you don't know shit you're totally ignorant to what it takes to succeed and you start to want to go up that curve and because you don't know shit you you are very coachable you're looking around at other successful people you're watching what they do you're saying all right i'm a blank canvas and i'm going to form myself into someone

who can move up and they find these techniques we find these techniques we find these things that start to move us up the curve and we start to have some success and then we say okay this is working so then we do more of these things and then we start to have more success and as that success as you start to approach the top of the curve

something usually happens and it happens to everybody it's not just me or you or fucking you know it's everybody is that the first time this happens or the second time this happens, we look at ourselves and we start to tell ourselves a story that really isn't true. And what we tell ourselves is is that we're special and we're good at what we do and we're

gifted and look at this success. It's me, but it's not you and it's not me. It's the actions that we took along the way. And so what happens is people let their ego start to make them believe that they are that it's them and that whatever they touch will actually work and because they stop doing the things that got them there and and stop valuing the system that got them there they start to go back down the other side of the curve and then what happens is they fall all the way down they get to the bottom and then by the

time they're at the bottom they're humble again all right because they're like fuck I just lost everything what the fuck so then they start listening again and then they go back to the system and then they go up the curve and then the same thing happens again and again and again and so most people's lives look like a giant up and down right like the you start to the left it goes up it comes back down goes up it comes back down like a wave and you have to break that pattern by recognizing that when you are successful and when you are doing well at the top of that curve you have to stop and be aware of you have to stop and be aware of and say, okay, I've been here before, this is happening, it's good, what happened last time

that it fell apart, and how do I avoid that? And the answer usually is very simple. It's you have to continue to do the things that got you there, improve upon them, and be extra diligent about keeping your foot on the throttle to make sure that you continue to move up as opposed to falling back down the other side of the curb. In fact, guys, we need to work at some sort of whiteboard situation in here so I can like do that um so for next show let's have that but does that make sense to you brother yeah that makes like a lot of sense and there's something like I want to add it's like very true like what you said uh when it comes to the point like where you start to get momentum and just keep going but I feel like right now like also I'm becoming

like fearful of like going back down again um there's like also something and that's like specifically related to money and then having like a fear of losing what I worked for if I make sense yeah for sure bro um why do you think that's a bad thing although it makes me it feels like I I can't take like the risk that I want to take and feel like I'm very protective of everything it makes me like a bit anxious it feels like I'm going to lose it whenever okay so it makes you it makes you hesitate is what you're saying yeah yeah correct yeah that's the word okay so so you have to reframe this all right in your mind that it's

instead of letting it make you hesitate it should be a signal to go harder okay when you start to feel the hesitation and you start to feel like oh man maybe i'm going to lose what what happens that's awareness bro and and that you're you're you're being a realist okay and a lot of people will say oh don't think about that because you're fucking attractive it. And yeah, if you obsess about losing, you're going to lose. But if it pops into your head and you get a little scared and you get a little anxious, that's your awareness telling you that I need to push forward. I need to continue to go. And that is not a bad thing. That's a really great thing, bro, because most people don't have that fear of losing. And then all of a sudden

they've just lost and they're like, how'd this happen? What happened here? Right. So the fear is actually a good signal to receive because it pushes you down the path further. Jason, I am terrified of fucking losing, bro. I think about it all the time, bro. I don't want to lose. But you know what happens when I start to feel like I'm losing? These guys in here, no, exactly what the fuck happened?

What happens? You get about 7,000 text messages in an hour. Shit gets going again. Right, exactly. So, yeah, dude. Is that true? not true it's fucking real can you guys tell when i'm starting to get fucking nervous absolutely all right because bro that's and other motherfuckers won't tell you this because they want to be like oh i'm never

scared i'm always oh well let me tell you something bro i'm scared all the fucking time that's why i run so fast you know i don't want to go back to where i came from i don't want to fucking lose and so the minute i start to feel that i start to do things that are productive towards where i want to go and uh you will never eliminate that fear brother it will never go away even when you got to where you want to go and you're you've accomplished everything that you've ever want to accomplish you're going to still have that fear because that's an that's the trait of an ambitious person someone who is a builder a creator and you were gifted with that not everybody's gifted with that bro so it's actually a really good thing that you have that as long as you don't hesitate

and instead of hesitating it should trigger you forward does that make sense a lot of sense. I actually haven't thought like before like I usually have like listen to people in like your mindset and stuff and they always say like you need to be abundant and stuff like that. There's truth to that too. You don't want to obsess over the fear. Okay. You want to feel it. You want to accept it. You want to recognize what it is. And then you want to get focused on the abundance and the wealth and the success that you're going to create. By taking action. By taking action. Yeah. You got to do some. Yeah. You got to take action. dude yeah so um listen for 19 years old man this is this is totally normal and unfortunately i

wish i could tell you hey man uh it goes away after this but it's never gone away for me um i i don't think i don't think it will ever go away for me because i think i've been implanted with some sort of drive that is just part of who i am and part of my DNA and one of my good friends friends who's been on the show before, uh, Zoltan from five finger death punch. We were sitting in my, we were sitting in my, uh, in my cigar lounge and we were having a conversation. You were there. And, uh, I was telling them how I was struggling, sort of like with what you're talking about. Um, only for me, it was, I have a hard time fitting in with regular people and caring about what regular people care about because it's just not interesting to me. And every time I try to care

about it, I get miserable. And he said something to me that was just like, it kind of reset. It fixed my mentality immediately. He's like, bro, did you ever think that maybe you're just a fucking warrior and this is what you're meant to do because the world needs people like you? And it fixed my whole mentality. And now that anxiety and that frustration is just something that I've accepted about myself.

And I think you would do yourself a massive favor, brother, by just accepting. that you were given the gift of ambition and drive and it's very important for you to fulfill that and you're going to feel differently than what most people feel most people are going to get satisfaction from earning X amount of dollars and living a normal life and doing this the regular things that everybody else does and unfortunately bro that's probably going to feel weird for you and um because you're built differently and there is a true thing of people being built differently and given different gifts. And when you're given the gift of being a builder and a creator

and someone who contributes and also, you know, as a result of the things you build, create and contribute, you become wealthy, it's just a different life, dude. And there's going to be anxiety and there's going to be fear and there's going to be frustration. And as long as you know how to deal with those things properly, brother, it's you're going to be one of the people that everybody looks at and says, that's why I know I can do what I'm.

going to try to do and i think that's the most noble thing that we can do as human beings is to inspire others through our own stories yeah man it sounds really good like when you read it like that it's actually like kind of a positive honestly yeah so it makes me like like you've been you've been given a gift jason yeah appreciate it man yeah you're not like everybody else you wouldn't be calling into this show if you were yeah yeah like had a different like before I dropped out of school when I was like 16 to go into like entrepreneurship and stuff like that yeah and also have been an inspiration for it we to do that as well to go all in on this well brother you're the really appreciate that hey bro you're the reason I do this shit bro I just

you I love that we're doing call-ins now because it reminds me that like people are actually going out and executing so I appreciate that very much dude but what I appreciate more is that you have the courage to go out and do this because it's required, man. People need to see these stories and they need to see, you know, young Jason who dropped out of school at 15 years old to build something that he cared about. That's going to inspire other people, man. You know, I was never someone who did well in school either. I couldn't do it.

I wasn't focused on it. It wasn't something I cared about. And hearing the stories of other people gave me hope. It said, okay, well, maybe you're not meant for that path. maybe you're meant for this path and I spent a lot of time thinking I was fucked up but until I found other stories of people that felt like me bro

it was a bad situation for me mentally so like remember this 10 years from now people are going to be looking at you in your community and in your country and they're going to be saying fuck dude Jason did it I can fucking do it I'm not built like everybody I'm not getting straight A's that doesn't mean that

I can't go out and build shit. And it's going to be a very important thing, dude. And I really have a tremendous amount of respect for anybody who decides to go do that because it's against the grain and it takes a lot of courage to do. And I really, really fucking appreciate you doing it, dude. Yeah, thank you, man. Appreciate it. By the way, I think everybody is listening to the show should do 75 hard as well.

I jumped onto that as well. Yeah. It's freaking amazing so far. I'm going to finish. I have like 20 days left. Fuck yeah, man. It's freaking great, man. And I'm listening to the show every day as well.

So I love what you guys are doing there. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it, man. We all appreciate it. We're all sitting here. We appreciate you, bro. All right, Jason.

We'll catch in with you next time, ma'am. Yeah, thank you guys. Have a great day. You too. I love that, dude. Bro, I fucking love hearing from these young people. Doing it. Dude.

It's so inspiring to me. Yeah. It makes me feel, like, dude, because you know, you know me as well as anybody. buddy one of the biggest things i struggle with is like does this what we do here even matter you know what i mean like i don't see the people out here doing these things my fuckers in sweden i know and that i just love that yeah like it makes me feel like okay well maybe because dude even if one or two people do this if i spend 10 years and fucking one or two or five people

it's worth it you know 100% bro i love it dude um yeah i think the biggest piece on that man is Making, you got to dream bigger. Yeah. You got to make that vision so fucking big, bro. It's hard for people who have never witnessed that in person to do. That's why we talk about, I think we talked about this last week too, but like people have to do intentional proximity success. You have to be intentional about it. You have to go where they go.

You have to be around who they are. You have to make friends with them. If you have to pay to be in a network, that's okay. Make sure it's not one of these fucking stories. stupid ones. I sure it's a real one. Yeah. But the point is, is that if you've never experienced it, you have to intentionally

be around it. And that doesn't mean anything more than proximity. And I think the most valuable thing that people can learn from being around successful people, and this is what I've learned. This is the biggest lesson I've ever learned about people, is that they're all normal like you and me and everybody else. They're not special. I used to think they were special, bro.

I used to think it was a club. I used to think there was like a special handshake or a fucking secret knock and that's not what it is dude it's it's regular people who have huge massive goals who almost always have a massive chip on their shoulder to prove something and they just go and um you know this is why we talk about the myth of this lesson this this myth that goes around like oh man that guy did all that but he must have had it fucking handed to him and it was so easy no you stupid fuck the reason that these people built shit is because it was hard for them at some point in their life and they learned grit resilience and they had enough pain

from where they came from that they want to get the fuck away from it no matter what it takes the people that are the most successful that are self-made are generally the ones that come from the hardest situations that's the fucking truth is the complete opposite of what most people say. So, you know, if you're doing, if you're trying to do shit and you see, you know, you look around, you're like, fuck my life is so fucked. I don't know. Like, no, that's great. Because you get to unfuck it. You know what I'm saying? And that provides enough internal drive and energy and like fucking anger and rage and like energy to like make it happen, dude. And eventually, you know, you get past that point. Eventually you get mostly past.

you know someone step on your toes that's different but you'll get to a point where it's very purpose driven and there are purpose driven people that start out at the beginning purpose driven but it's few and far between yeah i love it dude i love it guys yeah andy bro that that was that was three yep all right guys let's go kick ass we'll see you when we see you Went from sleeping on the floor Now my jury box froze Fuck a bull Fuck a stole

Counted millions in the cold Bad bitch, booted swow Got her on bankroll Can't fold Duss a no Headshot case closed Close